THE MARINA PART DEVELOPMENT

I copied the followings from the official web site (www.marinapart.hu) of the project.

BTW I dedicate this thread to the Hungarian Forumers, but especially to Bikes, because if I'm right He is a fan of the developer, Autoker Holding. But I hope all the other forumers from the countries of Central Europe and the whole wide world will like it.

"NEW WORLD - NEW LIFE

Move into a new apartment and turn over a new leaf! One of Budapest's most significant investment projects, Marina Part, grants an opportunity for you to do just this. On the banks of the River Danube, you can jog among shadowy trees alongside yachts bobbing softly on the water and then have a breakfast on your balcony looking directly over the Danube. Such a start will give a boost to your whole day, after which it will be a pleasure to return home and have a good swim in the residential park's swimming pool or make use of one of the numerous services rendered by the sports centre.

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CLOSE TO THE DANUBE,
CLOSE TO THE IMPLEMENTATION

According to our plans the investment project will be completed in five or six years. In the first stage, directly on the banks of the Danube, the apartments of three buildings are completed, predictably till the beginning of 2006. We plan to hand over the second stage consisting of five buildings as a continuance of the first stage, which will also be constructed on the banks of the Danube, by the third quarter of 2006. Under the buildings, an underground parking will be accommodated, and on the first floor, a landscaped ornamental garden will provide comfort to the dwellers.

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The size of the apartments varies from 40 m2 to 85 m2 each with a spacious balcony so that our prospective dwellers can enjoy the view; open up their living space onto the Danube and onto nature. On the topmost storey exclusive penthouse apartments with floor areas ranging from 50 m2 to 140 m2 will be developed, each with a huge roof terrace and a unique panorama. The everyday life of the dwellers of the building complex will be made easy and pleasant by the available services.

The swimming pool, sauna, fitness and aerobics room in the sports centre to be constructed soon will grant opportunity for activity and relaxation. Marina Part, with its own port, riverside promenades, restaurants and shops will provide a kind of lifestyle you may as well follow!"

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The photos I shot today morning:

(Sorry if the photos are not so clear, my camera "took a shower" last night, and I forgot to clean the lens so the cam couldn't focus properly... >( )

The Marina-part project with tha FOKA bay in the foreground:

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As you can see the surroundings are in quite a mess, the reason is two other large companies are building here aparments as well.

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Autoker Holding (www.autoker.hu) sold a huge area to spanish side Fadesa Group...

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So the rubish around the development zone belongs to Fadesa...

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The third phase of the Marina-part project is under way...

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Some of the buildings have already been completed.

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"Eden, east of the Danube", as the sign says just beside the Main gate. Security personnel are petroling all around the construction site... I hope I can get in, and the new Danube promenade will be open for the public and not just for privileged individuals...

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I hope this will get a new look some day...

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Still outside of the gate... As you can see the Fadesa development is in a pretty early phase...

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The Presitge-group is working here as well. They own this area... Fancy neighbourhood... ;)

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Ok. I sneaked in... Now the buildings from a closer distance...

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Preparing for the next phase... New 9 story blocks will be built here... In the background you can see the Duna Plaza shopping mall which will be connected with the Marina Part by a nice promenade...

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Earlier aerial photo, so you guys could imagine the project more easier.
On the left the Danube river, on right you can see the FOKA bay where - hopefuly - boats are going to park in the future...

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Haha, thanks for the dedication. Well, i like this project, but a friend of mine said the quality of the materials used are quite cheap, and the walls are very thin. Still the properties are very pricey, you have to pay a lot to have such a view. Btw, the Tópart project (at the Egér út) ended up nicely, just been there a couple of weeks ago. I think i will go to swim there, because its not so crowded as the Kondorosi or the one next to the Campona (and theyve got two saunas and a jacuzzi as well).

Some photos I found on the website ot the project:

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Oh nice thanks for the photos! The aerial shows really well the outline of the project. Btw, we have seen your car, we know you political views, and now we gotto see you girlfriend as well! :) What were you doing with your camera yesterday? Naughty-naughty! :D

^^ :lol:

BTW! I would have only one question for the investor...
What will happen when the water-levels rise...?

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Are the sandbag prices calaculated into the montly common charges?
(Mi a megfeleő szó a közös kölségre?)

Common charges! :)

LOL, probably they are going to have a free extra-large swimming pool for a few days. Otherwise no clue, but i would guess they have sandbags in the basements? Or at least some kind of plan... Maybe just evacuation plan :D
Wish the Danube was clear, imagine swimming in the river next to your house.. Bit utopistic now.

Btw, the Tópart project (at the Egér út) ended up nicely, just been there a couple of weeks ago. I think i will go to swim there, because its not so crowded as the Kondorosi or the one next to the Campona (and theyve got two saunas and a jacuzzi as well).

Do You mean the Kőérberek Tóváros in the XIth district developed by Demján's Trigránit Group?
Never been there before...

Wish the Danube was clear, imagine swimming in the river next to your house.. Bit utopistic now.

^^ I hope this wont be an utopistic dream ten years from now... 95% of the sewers of Budapest will be cleaned biologicaly from 2010. Keep my fingers crossed for other envitonmental projects such as the one at North-Csepel will follow in Hungary and Slovakia too. So neither of the mentioned countries would pollute the Danube any more.

Pretty huge project, does someone know how many apartments are being built in Budapest per year?

One more question: were there some heavy floods in Budapest in recent decades?

One more question: were there some heavy floods in Budapest in recent decades?

2001, 2002, 2004, 2006...

But let the photos speak for themselves...

2nd of april, 2006

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And I couldn't find any photos of Budapest's 3rd district were the situation was the worst.

You don't need to understand Hungarian:

http://hampage.hu/kozlekedes/arviz/

Do You mean the Kőérberek Tóváros in the XIth district developed by Demján's Trigránit Group?
Never been there before...

Yep, ő az! Once you have time you should check it (no worries, you can get inside, no security gates :lol: )

^^ I hope this wont be an utopistic dream ten years from now... 95% of the sewers of Budapest will be cleaned biologicaly from 2010. Keep my fingers crossed for other envitonmental projects such as the one at North-Csepel will follow in Hungary and Slovakia too. So neither of the mentioned countries would pollute the Danube any more.

Fingers crossed here as well, naturally, but i dont find it too realistic. (now, but i might change my opinion in a few years time)

2001, 2002, 2004, 2006...
And I couldn't any photos of Budapest's 3rd district were the situation was the worst.


so any plan to build flood barrier around Danube near Budapest?

Yes, there is. Although I do not have a link, I know the barrier's height could be manipulated according to the height of the water once it's built.

-Ataman

Pretty huge project, does someone know how many apartments are being built in Budapest per year?

Last year 15152 new apartments were built.

I found this info on the www.magyarorszag.hu. Governmental web site...

so any plan to build flood barrier around Danube near Budapest?

Yes there are plans, mainly for the 3rd district. Rómaipart and Csillaghegy, parts of the 3rd district are the most endangered parts of Budapest.
The ideal solution would be a special mobile flood barrier, but today there are no funds to finance the pretty expensive budget.

Last year 15152 new apartments were built.

I found this info on the www.magyarorszag.hu. Governmental web site...

Cool, in Prague only 7901 (in 2006). Budapest is bigger than Prague, but still this difference surprise me.

Cool, in Prague only 7901 (in 2006). Budapest is bigger than Prague, but still this difference surprise me.

There was a 61% (!!!) increase from the year before!!!

2001, 2002, 2004, 2006...
But let the photos speak for themselves...


I know, in 2002 there were heavy floods in Prague (they say biggest in last 500 hundred years), but I think cities situated more down-river like Budapest are better protected, because river has more "opportunities" where to overflow (in lowlands). Worst situation is usually on the upper and middle reaches of a river.

I know, in 2002 there were heavy floods in Prague (they say biggest in last 500 hundred years), but I think cities situated more down-river like Budapest are better protected, because river has more "opportunities" where to overflow (in lowlands). Worst situation is usually on the upper and middle reaches of a river.

Yes it has more "oppoptunities", but the time a river like the Danube or the Tisza arrives to the lowlands, they have already gathered all the water, mud and other subsidence from the side-rivers that join into the main flow. In the upper regions usually rivers are very rapid and have less amount of water in them. So when the combined stream reaches the lowlands it suddenly slows, and at moment has the opportunity to settle down its subsidence. Thats why the rivers of the middle and lower reaches of a river are usually more shallow. It has to be cleaned very often to keep the river shipable. But naturally thats a horrible job at rivers that have a water output like the Danube. I think in the upper parts of a river floods are avoided much more easier because of its less rate of flow. Imagine how wide the Danube is in Hungary or Slovakia. Try to stop or control that mass of water.

The truth is, that the architects of 19th century Budapest were real geniuses. Basically they created the face the city still has today, including the street grid, the Danube river banks with several levels, which allows the river to flood the lower levels, without really affecting life in the city, and some if it's best known landmarks, like the chain bridge. And with "architects" I mean not only engineers, but also visionary politicians, like Szechenyi. Where are they today... :ohno:

You are absolutely right... And the absence of these individuals who were undeniably formers of their age and specialities could be felt strongly today...
I couldn't even name one... :ohno:

But to stick to the topics urbanity and architecture, parts/points of Budapest speaks for themselves...

My personal "favorite" the Kálvin Center at Kálvin square... This glass piece of shit in the middle of the historical (OK. Not the Hotel Corona(?)) surroundings...

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^ Guys, there are even worse examples in Czechia.

My no.1 candidate is this postmodern glass-concrete-squiggle hypershit in the centre of Brno (several ancient houses had to make way for this) :bash:

http://www.brno.cz/galerie/obrazky/1152709164-v.jpg


:puke:

You are absolutely right... And the absence of these individuals who were undeniably formers of their age and specialities could be felt strongly today...
I couldn't even name one... :ohno:

But to stick to the topics urbanity and architecture, parts/points of Budapest speaks for themselves...

My personal "favorite" the Kálvin Center at Kálvin square... This glass piece of shit in the middle of the historical (OK. Not the Hotel Corona(?)) surroundings...

Totally agree, my cousin used to live in Kecskemeti utca, I know this place very well. Relatively speaking, the Hotel Corona is a nice building...

Prestige City is connected pretty much to Autoker Holding's Marina Part...

Photos I've taken a couple of days ago...

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I hope this old warehouse is going to be saved...

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Buildings of Autoker's Marina part...

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Neighbour Fadesa started working too...

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^ pretty attractive apartments, I like these projects near water with personal yacht :cheers:

One more question: were there some heavy floods in Budapest in recent decades?

2001, 2002, 2004, 2006...

But let the photos speak for themselves...

2nd of april, 2006

Do you think that if were Gabčíkovo-Nagymaros completed there would be such floods in recent years?

Do you think that if were Gabčíkovo-Nagymaros completed there would be such floods in recent years?

Probably not, but the Danube's bend would be totaly ruined... Not worth it... :ohno:

Probably not, but the Danube's bend would be totaly ruined... Not worth it... :ohno:

Ruined? In which way?

Ruined? In which way?

It would have caused a lot of environmental problems :ohno: (decrease of water quantity which would have harmed the eco-system of the Danube and it's vicinity, also the planned facilities would have caused pollution of the water and the dam at Nagymaros would have affected the landscape's beauty in a very bad way).

It would have caused a lot of environmental problems :ohno: (decrease of water quantity which would have harmed the eco-system of the Danube and it's vicinity, also the planned facilities would have caused pollution of the water and the dam at Nagymaros would have affected the landscape's beauty in a very bad way).

Well, there was some research about how this structure effected Danube in Gabčíkovo part and scientists found out that biotopes around that area are even in better condition that they have been before. Also they´ve found some new species of wild birds or somethin like that. And I don´t think that hydroenegetic power plant could be the cause of a pollution in the river.

No it isn't the powerplant but some other planned facilities like a reservoir and things like that :nuts: (I'm not an expert on the issue obviously).

No it isn't the powerplant but some other planned facilities like a reservoir and things like that :nuts: (I'm not an expert on the issue obviously).

Ok, me neither, that´s why I wanted to ask what do you think.:)

No it isn't the powerplant but some other planned facilities like a reservoir and things like that :nuts: (I'm not an expert on the issue obviously).

Peti is right here! The colleteral damage would have been just too darn great, not to mention the today's beautiful scenery would have been also ruined.

Peti is right here! The colleteral damage would have been just too darn great, not to mention the today's beautiful scenery would have been also ruined.

I don´t think so, but as far as we aren´t experts about this further discussion about this topic would be just useless...

I don´t think so, but as far as we aren´t experts about this further discussion about this topic would be just useless...

We wouldn't agree, so as You wrote: "further discussion about this topic would be just useless"... Just one comment. On the Slovakian part the dam wouldn't really ruin the landscape... What would happen if You would be in our place...?

We wouldn't agree, so as You wrote: "further discussion about this topic would be just useless"... Just one comment. On the Slovakian part the dam wouldn't really ruin the landscape... What would happen if You would be in our place...?

I´ve never been there so it´s kinda hard to judge.

Nyuszi was right! The "valuable" landscape is on the Hungarian side!

Nyuszi was right! The "valuable" landscape is on the Hungarian side!

... Of course we are not saying that the landscape on the Slovakian side has no value... just not as turistically important as on our side :lol:

Thanks for the softening. That's what I wanted to write in my rude way. Noo offence agains our Slovakian neighbours!:cheers:

Ok guys, now I´m curious of how does it look like! Post some photos or at least links...

http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa238/Peti20/DanubeBend.jpg
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not very good quality pictures btw (but not my pics anyway:lol: )

The Dunakanyar (Danube's bend) with Visegrád and Nagymaros today:

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They already started to build the dam. You can see how ugly the widened Danube is. Not to mention what would it like if the concrete facilities would have been built...

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Thanks Peti! Great pics! :applause:

You did a great job too Qtya:applause:

Yeah, well I think that will be more sensible to built a dam or two and reservoir there rather than flooding Budapest nearly every year. I think it will be quite good protection but that´s just my humble opinion! :)

Yeah, well I think that will be more sensible to built a dam or two and reservoir there rather than flooding Budapest nearly every year. I think it will be quite good protection but that´s just my humble opinion! :)

On 1998 rates the hungarian part of the dam would have cost a minimum of 600 billion Ft-s. Now it could be around 800 billion Ft (apx. 3,2 billion euros) or lot more if the government choose the PPP solution (and probably would). Budapest's proper protection system will cost around 25-30 billion Ft (100-120 million Euros)...

From 3,2 billion Euros we could build a nuclear powerplant with 6 reactors that would produce 40-60% percent of Hungary's electricity...

And it also turned out that the dam would provide ONLY 5% of Hungary's electric production which is nonsense.

From 3,2 billion Euros we could build a nuclear powerplant with 6 reactors that would produce 40-60% percent of Hungary's electricity...

Qtya %=percent :lol:

6 more reactors?! No way! :ohno: Invest the money in the joint international fusion research and development project...

If You Guys are interested in the Bős-Nagymaros problem, click on the link: http://www.bosnagymaros.hu/ Non-Hungarians hit "English"

Qtya %=percent :lol:

6 more reactors?! No way! :ohno: Invest the money in the joint international fusion research and development project...

Hmm... Interesting...

Not the place for this discussion but why not:

As some people fusion is not "unsafe" but it is not a ready technology yet. There are several tokomaks in the world researching the possibilities of fusion power, yet none have generated useful energy (ie more than was put in to create the reaction). ITER the big international fusion project being constructed in France will aim to be the first fusion station to generate energy, yet this is not gonna be finished for at least 10 years. So fusion is a long way off and cant be seen as a sollution to the worlds energy crisis yet.

As for fission it is the safest, cleanest form of power in history by a very very long way. The problem is mainly due to how to get rid of the radioactive waste and the minute chance of a meltdown. However the death toll from meltdowns like chernobyl is greatly exagerated, with some estimates saying 10s of thousands and other (more accurate ones) saying around 50 people. But if you look at how many coal miners have died over the last hundred years, the fission safety starts to look pretty damn impressive. CE would definately benefit from fission power.

Its like being afraid of flying, but You could more easliy die while driving...
Go nuclear! :lol:

A new Petrzalka is being built here? :ohno:

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Next door neighbour...

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/5010/im000026ns6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

And Fadesa is building its "Danubia" too...(I was too lazy to take photos, but the development is in a pretty early stage...)

^^That is Danubia,what you've captured...

^^That is Danubia,what you've captured...

Fadesa owns this side of the bay, and they are working just beside the Marina Part entrance... Thats not on the photo...

To be honest,this place looks worse,than the old commie-parks...at least,there were a lot of free space between commies...

Photos I've took earlier...

Buildings of Autoker's Marina part in the background, and Fadesa's development just right of the entrance...

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/1282/im000080gh1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/4941/im000078le2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Neighbour Fadesa started working too...

http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/3482/im000079om0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Of course there is a possibility I'm wrong...

--

capiblocks (capitalists block house) :(

(Azt nem értem csak, hogy miért nem paneles technikával építették, ezt a minőséget úgy is produkálni lehet, ám a panel sokkal olcsóbb!)

And faster to build...

Some fresh photos from today via mobile phone...

http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/8627/20080121235qf0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/4223/20080121236it5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/97/20080121237th0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/7275/20080121238ib5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/466/20080121241ny4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Last stage of the Autoker Holding's development is under way... The 4 last(?) buildings are under construction...

http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/8584/20080121242vb9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/1071/20080121240io8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/2685/20080121239df8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Fadesa is working hard on its Danubio Park (www.danubiopark.hu) next door...

http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/4631/20080121233qt8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/535/20080121234xb7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

If You agree, we shouldn't start a new thread about this project... Its so close to the Marina Part development, we could just post the photos of the Danubio Park here in the future too... What do You think/say? :dunno:

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What happened to this blogen guy...? Why have he erased all of his post? He is a fugitive, or what? The NBH is looking for him?

What happened to this blogen guy...? Why have he erased all of his post? He is a fugitive, or what? The NBH is looking for him?

Nem minden postjat torolte, kettot maghagyott. Szerintem megsertodott, es elment.
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/search.php?searchid=1327375
:ohno:

Nem minden postjat torolte, kettot maghagyott. Szerintem megsertodott, es elment.
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/search.php?searchid=1327375
:ohno:

^^ "Sorry - no matches. Please try some different terms. "

Lehet, de miért?

BTW: The photos at the end of the previous page are much more interesting...

I like the buildings but the whole thing seems to be a bit dense... The houses are too close to each other IMO.
Btw I agree that we can continue with the Danubio project here on

Few days ago I took a walk here. Although some of the photos might be familiar from Qtya's posts, I hope you like it...
The sunset was gorgeous even more than on the pics.

http://imagination.hu/bb/ssc/marina_01.jpg

http://imagination.hu/bb/ssc/marina_02.jpg

http://imagination.hu/bb/ssc/marina_03.jpg

http://imagination.hu/bb/ssc/marina_04.jpg

http://imagination.hu/bb/ssc/marina_05.jpg

http://imagination.hu/bb/ssc/marina_06.jpg

http://imagination.hu/bb/ssc/marina_07.jpg

http://imagination.hu/bb/ssc/marina_08.jpg

http://imagination.hu/bb/ssc/marina_09.jpg

Really good-looking project. It reminds me Spain or Portugal.:cheers:

Photos I've made today about Marina Part and Danubio Park. Some of the shots are really bad in quality, because I was in a rush, so I took them while driving... :ohno:

The u/c Danubio Park in forground, Marina Part in the background...

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/8691/im000040xu3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/3707/im000041oe7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/4039/im000042sv1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/1972/im000044bc0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/7069/im000049kh2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/4645/im000050vr8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Last unfinished phase of Marina Part...

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/7038/im000045ni6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/4061/im000046lw4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/5731/im000047jx9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/1686/im000048be6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

What kind of transportation is planned to join Marina part with rest of the city?

What kind of transportation is planned to join Marina part with rest of the city?

Lets see...residents' feet and car. But the M3 metro is not far from it...

^^ Don't forget about the yacht-port. :) A fast yacht can take you by far sooner to the center than any other means of transport. Although not much chance to get off at Pestszentlorinc, for sure.
It looked quite empty in February though...
http://imagination.hu/bb/ssc/marina_11.jpg

http://imagination.hu/bb/ssc/marina_10.jpg

What kind of transportation is planned to join Marina part with rest of the city?

I have heared a plan about extending the trolleybus line 75, which now has the terminus at Dózsa György út metro station. It would continue on the Dráva utca, then turn right onto Népfürdő utca, go along with the Danube and continue on Cserhalom utca. :cheers:

I am glad that this area is revitalized, but IMO this project has no architectural value.

Yes, and the main problem is that it is completely separeted from the rest of the city...

^^ Just like the rest of the suburban lakoparks. People move there to get far from noise and smog. I doubt there are too many Marina residents who will miss BKV-lines, cause they will never get on a rusty Ikarus or packed metro. They have their own Audis.

It was quite a surprise for me seeing a lot of "cheep", not so expensive cars at Marina Part... Opel Astras, Peugeot 206, Renault Megane, Suzuki Swift &Ingis... etc...

Well.. Marina Part apts are about the same price as Színyei Ház apts in the 6th district, which is nothing exceptional (built quality might be better than average). So for 30mHUF you get 50-60 sqm. Why you see Astras and such stuff? Because it makes sense to have a 5m car and a 30m flat, but it doesn't (Hungarian mentality), to have a 30m car and a 15m commie apt.. IMHO. But i'm sure you'll be able to see plenty high-end cars from the owners of penthouse apts, huge apts with river view and so on.

Well.. Marina Part apts are about the same price as Színyei Ház apts in the 6th district, which is nothing exceptional (built quality might be better than average). So for 30mHUF you get 50-60 sqm. Why you see Astras and such stuff? Because it makes sense to have a 5m car and a 30m flat, but it doesn't (Hungarian mentality), to have a 30m car and a 15m commie apt.. IMHO. But i'm sure you'll be able to see plenty high-end cars from the owners of penthouse apts, huge apts with river view and so on.

Yes, I see the same too!

Few days ago I took a walk here. Although some of the photos might be familiar from Qtya's posts, I hope you like it...
The sunset was gorgeous even more than on the pics.

http://imagination.hu/bb/ssc/marina_01.jpg

http://imagination.hu/bb/ssc/marina_02.jpg

http://imagination.hu/bb/ssc/marina_03.jpg

http://imagination.hu/bb/ssc/marina_04.jpg

http://imagination.hu/bb/ssc/marina_05.jpg

http://imagination.hu/bb/ssc/marina_06.jpg

http://imagination.hu/bb/ssc/marina_07.jpg

http://imagination.hu/bb/ssc/marina_08.jpg

http://imagination.hu/bb/ssc/marina_09.jpg

I just love these shots! Super-cool work here tersyxus! :banana:

Anyone... how much is an apartment in this area??.... I surely would like to live there from time to time...:)

Anyone... how much is an apartment in this area??.... I surely would like to live there from time to time...:)

I checked it once... Apartment prices started from around 16 million HUF (64000 EUR)without a parking place...

1600 EUR/sqm

Last stage of the Autoker Holding's development is under way... The 4 last(?) buildings are under construction...
Fadesa is working hard on its Danubio Park (www.danubiopark.hu) next door...
If You agree, we shouldn't start a new thread about this project... Its so close to the Marina Part development, we could just post the photos of the Danubio Park here in the future too... What do You think/say? :dunno:


I have bought an apt. in Fadesa´s Danubio Park. 1725 EUR/m2 including taxes.
I have been several times and I think the place is quite good. I would like to know other buyers in Danubio Park or Marina Part to share info.
Thanks.

I have bought an apt. in Fadesa´s Danubio Park. 1725 EUR/m2 including taxes.
I have been several times and I think the place is quite good. I would like to know other buyers in Danubio Park or Marina Part to share info.
Thanks.

Welcome to the forum marchelo, but I strongly doubt You will find any other apartment owners of Danubio Park or Marina Part here... :ohno:

Marchelo, PM sent.

Okay, so i went there today. The place is really nice, the air is definitely better. The exteriror of the Marina buildings looks OK, i like the huge balconies... But.. The place is already cramped, i cannot even imagine all the rest being constructed and the park which currently stands being removed for another 9 storey tower.. It means that you have nearly zero privacy, just as if you lived in the centre of the city, you go out to your nice balcony and you see another 50 next to you, some right infront of you..
The infrastructure is crap, i'm not sure if there will be new connections to the Váci street, but the current state is very far from being usable.

Anyway, worth a walk there,
photo update:

http://ducq.com/marina/01.jpg
http://ducq.com/marina/02.jpg
http://ducq.com/marina/03.jpg
http://ducq.com/marina/04.jpg
http://ducq.com/marina/05.jpg
http://ducq.com/marina/06.jpg
http://ducq.com/marina/07.jpg
http://ducq.com/marina/08.jpg
http://ducq.com/marina/09.jpg
http://ducq.com/marina/10.jpg
http://ducq.com/marina/11.jpg

I love this view on the Nagykörút!
http://ducq.com/marina/12.jpg

^^Great phots Bikes! Thank you for sharing...

Last stage of the Autoker Holding's development is under way... The 4 last(?) buildings are under construction...
Fadesa is working hard on its Danubio Park (www.danubiopark.hu) next door...
If You agree, we shouldn't start a new thread about this project... Its so close to the Marina Part development, we could just post the photos of the Danubio Park here in the future too... What do You think/say? :dunno:


I have bought an apt. in Fadesa´s Danubio Park. 1725 EUR/m2 including taxes.
I have been several times and I think the place is quite good. I would like to know other buyers in Danubio Park or Marina Part to share info.
Thanks.

Hi Marchelo

I also bought an apt in Danubio park but I paid 1900 Eur/m2 EXCLUDING TAX!!!! . It is a one room apartment in the first floor with a large balcony 14m2 with view to the garden. Even it has a large balcony and is in the first flor I feel I paid over the adds

I was also looking for some one who also bought into this project to share info because I really thinking about pulling out of this investment

Marchelo is your apartment an studio?
Did you buy it because you are thinking into moving there or to rent it out?

talk to you soon

hi daniel

i have sent you a private message.

Hi Marchelo

I also bought an apt in Danubio park but I paid 1900 Eur/m2 EXCLUDING TAX!!!! . It is a one room apartment in the first floor with a large balcony 14m2 with view to the garden. Even it has a large balcony and is in the first flor I feel I paid over the adds

I was also looking for some one who also bought into this project to share info because I really thinking about pulling out of this investment

Marchelo is your apartment an studio?
Did you buy it because you are thinking into moving there or to rent it out?

talk to you soon
Hi Marchelo,

I've also bought an studio in Danubio Park with Martinsa-Fadesa. It's true that we've bought more expensive than other similar real estate promotions but Martinsa-Fadesa gives you an extra-security and anyway I'm completely sure that in 2010 the prices of these appartments will be over 150,000€

If you want to get in contact with me just leave here you mail address.

Hi openacoba,

i have sent you a private message.

I have openend a new forum for Danubio Park.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=19779603#post19779603

Danubio Park today...

Sorry for the bad quality...

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/2462/200806104541xq9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/7973/200806104561dj1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Passing by Danubio Park yesterday afternoon...

http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/1236/p11400701tk7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/2663/p11400731ne6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Sorry for writing in English ... I was looking at the Hungarian subforum because in the next months I will go to Budapest, a friend will study of Erasmus there, and looking at the projects, I have seen that this itconstructs FADESA, this company is Spanish and has been dragged by snap of the real-estate bubble in Spain, and a few days ago it has declared in go bankrupt. This project not this one affected?

Thank you.

http://img382.imageshack.us/img382/4397/p11407781lp2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/2645/p11407801qy9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img382.imageshack.us/img382/9233/p11407811ts4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

It looks promising. What is more, I like this height because no a capital can be built with 1 or 2 floor buildings...

Muy amables, gracias.

Ex Danubio park...

http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/1822/p11601571tj0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/9014/p11601581xq8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

New name

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/3807/p11601591wc6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/5003/p11601601lr5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

What the hell is that? Nothing has happened there in a long time...

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/5861/p11601611ys8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/5861/p11601611ys8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

^^Do You guys who live there could tell me something about this building? I just have no clue what could it be...

No info building...

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/896/p11605111rn8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Duna Terasz...

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/8100/p11605121xl9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/2213/p11605131qd0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/7899/p11706081.jpg (http://img132.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p11706081.jpg)

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/2347/p11706041.jpg (http://img132.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p11706041.jpg)

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/208/p11706051.jpg (http://img132.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p11706051.jpg)

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/9681/p11706061.jpg (http://img132.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p11706061.jpg)

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/7899/p11706071.jpg (http://img132.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p11706071.jpg)

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/951/p11706091.jpg (http://img132.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p11706091.jpg)

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/4792/p11706111.jpg (http://img132.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p11706111.jpg)

It seems, next phase is on it's way...

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/6586/p11706101.jpg (http://img132.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p11706101.jpg)

great pics thanks! do you have some boat or something like that or it is from the other side of the small bay around there?

Jó nagy lakótelep lesz! Vajon fog ide busz is járni?

a lakótelep tökéletes kifejezés...

ha busz nem is fog járni, yachtkikötő már van

a lakótelep tökéletes kifejezés...

Igazából nem,mert a lakótelepek általában nagyobb parkok köré épültek,a város talán zöldebb részei,itt meg mint Hong Kongban állnak a házak. Van a lakótelepnél negatívabb kifejezés,ami még nem a gettó?

Csak példának,hogy mire gondolok:
Egy lakótelep,a "rosszabbak" közül:
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=47.556155,19.094678&spn=0.00349,0.006909&t=h&z=17
A téma témája:
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=47.547074,19.066665&spn=0.003491,0.006909&t=h&z=17

great pics thanks! do you have some boat or something like that or it is from the other side of the small bay around there?

Yeah, I made these pics from the other side of the bay.

Igazából nem,mert a lakótelepek általában nagyobb parkok köré épültek,a város talán zöldebb részei,itt meg mint Hong Kongban állnak a házak. Van a lakótelepnél negatívabb kifejezés,ami még nem a gettó?

Csak példának,hogy mire gondolok:
Egy lakótelep,a "rosszabbak" közül:
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=47.556155,19.094678&spn=0.00349,0.006909&t=h&z=17
A téma témája:
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=47.547074,19.066665&spn=0.003491,0.006909&t=h&z=17

hát ja, ezt már én is nézegettem és az építészfórumon is volt téma...

Ha megnezitek ezek meg nem is annyira gazak. A hong-kong stilusra inkabb Pozsonyban mentek ra. Ott ketszer ilyen magasak az ujepitesu lakotombok. Remekul fog kinezni az a varos is 20 ev mulva. Semmi zoldfeluletet nem hagynak a lebontott iparteruletek helyen.

Jó nagy lakótelep lesz! Vajon fog ide busz is járni?

I think the Vaci road is really not far from there

^^ Én voltam már többször is a Marina-parton egy lakásban, és elég nyomasztó a házak közelsége szerintem

^^ az jar jol, akinek a Dunara néz az ablaka

^^ Exactly, and current rent prices are extremely cheap there.. Saw many nice flats in the 120-160k HUF / month range that have Danube view.

No sign of work on the next phases...

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/1897/p1190793.jpg (http://img502.imageshack.us/i/p1190793.jpg/)

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/223/p1190794.jpg (http://img101.imageshack.us/i/p1190794.jpg/)

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/8505/p1190796.jpg (http://img187.imageshack.us/i/p1190796.jpg/)

http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/9848/p1190795.jpg (http://img410.imageshack.us/i/p1190795.jpg/)

^^ Thanks for the nice pics!
Maybe they have some difficulty to sell the condos during the economical crises, probably this is the reason why they don't start the next phase.

No sign of work on the next phases...


The yellow-ish building doesn't belong to Marina Part, it is part of Duna Terasz project by a different investor. The building was u/c up till now and seems to be ready (maybe some interior works left).

Btw. construction is going on also in Marina Part. Phase IV. is just finished (was u/c this year), and the next buildings are also being built, around the FOKA-bay. I'll try to take pictures one day :cheers:

The yellow-ish building doesn't belong to Marina Part, it is part of Duna Terasz project by a different investor. The building was u/c up till now and seems to be ready (maybe some interior works left).

Btw. construction is going on also in Marina Part. Phase IV. is just finished (was u/c this year), and the next buildings are also being built, around the FOKA-bay. I'll try to take pictures one day :cheers:

I know... :D

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=16748434&postcount=55

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=16748504&postcount=57

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=17860196&postcount=60

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=19321138&postcount=67

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=21593953&postcount=91

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=23431846&postcount=92

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=25085794&postcount=94

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=28264592&postcount=97

Ex Danubio park...

New name

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/3807/p11601591wc6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=31233828&postcount=99

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=38013468&postcount=100

:lol:

gyönyörű hőhidak a födémből 1:1-ben kinövő erkélyek
a fűtés 20-30%-a..

és még hol a vége..:

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/9964/53041402.jpg

gyönyörű hőhidak a födémből 1:1-ben kinövő erkélyek


azt hol látod hogy nem építettek be pl hőhídmegszakító elemet?

So is anyone living at Marina Part right now? I'm interested in buying and have some questions. Can anyone help? Thanks

I have seen people walking around there and some cars, so probably some people do live there.

So is anyone living at Marina Part right now? I'm interested in buying and have some questions. Can anyone help? Thanks

Check posts 81-83.

So is anyone living at Marina Part right now? I'm interested in buying and have some questions. Can anyone help? Thanks

Can i ask you where are you from?
I just curious about it :)