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CONTENTS


A1 Ljubljana - Maribor - Austria (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=12408369#post12408369)

A1 Ljubljana - Adriatic Sea (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=12806045#post12806045) & Nanos (H4) - Postojna - Ljubljana (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=76300505#post76300505)

A2, H1 Ljubljana - Villach (Austria): 2007 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=13248328#post13248328) & 2009 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=44662232#post44662232)

A2, H1 Zagreb (Croatia) - Ljubljana (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=451101&page=11) & Ljubljana - Zagreb (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=13729771#post13729771)

A3 Divača (A1) - Trieste (Italy) (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=451101&page=8)

A4 Maribor - Ptuj (video) (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=40038038#post40038038) & Ptuj - Maribor (photos) (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=41580850#post41580850)

A5 Maribor - Hungary (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=88170803#post88170803)

G1-3, A5 Maribor - Hungary (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=12472000#post12472000)

H2 Expressway through Maribor (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=12408369#post12408369)

H3 Northern Ljubljana bypass: direction east (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=451101) & direction west (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=16244655#post16244655)

H4 Nanos (A1) - Nova Gorica - Italy (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=12855314#post12855314) & Italy - Nova Gorica - Nanos (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=76299745#post76299745)

H5 Italy - Koper/Capodistria (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=12836267#post12836267)

H6, G2-111 Koper/Capodistria - Izola/Isola - Portorož/Portorose - Croatia (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=12836267#post12836267)

H7 Lendava/Lendva (A5) - Lenti (Hungary) (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=27634846#post27634846)

G2-104 Ljubljana-Tomačevo (H3) - Ljubljana-Črnuče (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=12204207#post12204207)

Coastal Highway (H5, H6, G2-111) (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=12836267#post12836267)

Ljubljana Ring (A1, A2, H3): clockwise (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=451101) & counterclockwise (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=16244655#post16244655)

G1-7 Rijeka (Croatia) - Kozina (A1) - Trieste (Italy) (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=37149944#post37149944)

G1-9 Zagreb (Croatia) - Ptuj (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=36798998#post36798998)

G1-11 Koper/Capodistria - Pula/Pola (Croatia) (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=40631152#post40631152)



Let's take a ride on Slovenian highways! :)

The Slovenian road network consists of 537 km (334 mi) of motorways/freeways and 60 km (37 mi) of 4-lane expressways:
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/system2010.jpg
You can find more information on http://www.dars.si/Default.aspx?lang=2.
For a more "local" thread about Slovenian motorways click http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=435126.


I'll start with the Ljubljana Ring, a 4-lane ringroad, surrounding the Slovenian capital Ljubljana, a city of 260,000 inhabitants and my hometown. :) Its length is almost 30 km (18 mi), of which 20 km (12 mi) is motorway/freeway (general speed limit 130 km/h (80 mph)), and the remaining 10 km (6 mi) is expressway (general speed limit 100 km/h (62 mph)). The first part of it was put in traffic in 1979, and it was finished in 1999. The photos of it were all taken today by me. :)

Thanks for this map to our forumer Chire! :) A1 and A2 are motorways/freeways ("A" stands for "avtocesta" = motorway/freeway in Slovenian), H3 is the 4-lane expressway ("H" stands for "hitra cesta" = expressway in Slovenian). The A2 motorway/freeway between the Ring and Šentvid (5.5 km) will be put in traffic next year. With its completion the expressway network of Ljubljana will be finished. :)
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/ljfg5.jpg


Let's go... Sorry for the bad picture, they will improve, I just wanted to show you where I started. I started in the northeastern corner of the Ljubljana Ring, at the interchange Zadobrova, between H3 and A1, heading to the A1 (also E57 and the V. (5th) Pan-European Transport Corridor), and starting on the eastern bypass. :)
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/acobro001lx8.jpg

Joining A1 from Maribor and Graz.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/acobro055bk7.jpg

...
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/acobro056dd2.jpg

Sorry for the unclear picture, just wanna show you sign, pointing to my neighborhood - Ljubljana-Moste. :)
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/acobro002zx5.jpg

A nice, short bridge over the Ljubljanica River. :)
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/acobro003fx6.jpg

2 km to interchange Malence ("razcep" = interchange). Watch out for the radar, no more than 100 km/h. :)
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/acobro004sm2.jpg

We're turning right, to the southern bypass (A1, A2, E70, Corridors V and X (10)). :)
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/acobro007qw4.jpg

We joined A2 from Novo mesto and Zagreb and are heading towards west. Note a mistake: we're not on E61 yet. :)
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/acobro011ae2.jpg

90 km (56 mi) to the Karavanke Tunnel, linking Slovenia with Austria and Germany. :)
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/acobro012sy0.jpg
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/2/acobro015ti6.jpg
2200 m to interchange Kozarje, 1500 m to Ljubljana-zahod ("zahod" = west in Slovenian, and toilet in Croatian :D).
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/acobro019rd2.jpg

Rest area Barje.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/acobro020vu3.jpg

No, we're not going to toilet. :D
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/acobro021fx5.jpg

We're going right (obviously :)).
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/acobro023qf9.jpg

We joined highway from Koper and Trieste, and are now on the western bypass (A2, E61, Corridor X).
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/acobro024ie4.jpg

Sorry... :D
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/acobro026vr8.jpg

The Alps... :)
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/acobro028bt1.jpg

A construction site because of building the remaining part of A2 between the Ring and the motorway for Austria and Germany.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/acobro029vd9.jpg

If the motorway was already finished, we would turn left for Austria.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/acobro031kc0.jpg

We left the A2 motorway and are continuing on the H3 expressway. As there was no sign for its beginning :crazy: (only "H3"), I'm showing you sign for its end. :)
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/acobro032hs2.jpg

The color of signs turned from green to blue.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/acobro033kz6.jpg

This part of the Ring is from 1981, and there are some eyesores. :)
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/acobro034lt2.jpg

Exit for Kranj and Villach, 3 km of 4-lane road with intersections through the city, until you reach motorway. We're continuing straight forward on the northern bypass (still H3), and therefore leaving the E61 and Corridor X. These were the last 2 km of the H3 expressway, still transit (until the new motorway is completed).
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/acobro035wa9.jpg

...
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/acobro037nu4.jpg

Camp Ježica.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/acobro038nn9.jpg

Say hello to Slovenia's tallest building, World Trade Center, built in 1993 (72 m :)).
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/acobro040uq8.jpg

WTC...
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/acobro041dz8.jpg

...
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/acobro042ui1.jpg

Exit for a 2-km 4-lane expressway for Trzin.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/acobro043qg1.jpg

Under the Tomačevo Roundabout.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/acobro044dl4.jpg

...
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/acobro045aa9.jpg

These three loonies in front of me were pissing me off with their 80 km/h, but I didn't wanna overtake them, too occupied with taking photos...
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/acobro046nb5.jpg

A Hungarian trucker pissed off. :D
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/acobro048mg0.jpg

1500 m to interchange Zadobrova.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/acobro049uc0.jpg

We're turning right...
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/acobro052km5.jpg

...and ending our journey where we started (not particularly better picture though :D).
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/acobro054ui1.jpg

This is it. :)


http://s03.flagcounter.com/count/APw/bg_FFFFFF/txt_000000/border_CCCCCC/columns_8/maxflags_248/viewers_0/labels_0/pageviews_0/flags_0/ (http://s03.flagcounter.com/more/APw)

Nice roads and the pavement seems fresh on most of them, are they new or just recently maintained?

http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/20/acobro007qw4.jpg
The sign says 80, is this because of the tunnel or thats the speed limit generally?

Nice roads and the pavement seems fresh on most of them, are they new or just recently maintained?


The sign says 80, is this because of the tunnel or thats the speed limit generally?

All those on the pictures are relatively old, but well maintained! 80 km/h is because of the tunnel and the interchange, normally it is 130 km/h outside of tunnels.

Some tips for road photography:

* Use the most optical zoom as available, so you not get the car interior. This made it possible so shoot even pics from the back seat without getting the interior on it.
* DO NOT use digital zoom!
* Leave the camera on automatic
* Try to shoot pics on days with as much daylight as possible, this way you don't get so many blurred pics.
* The winter/spring/fall period is not so good, because the low sun, and the less light. The more light you got the better the pics will be.
* Do not use the flasher! Other people will be distracted, think it will be a speed camera, or even become angry.
* It is safer to take pics as a passenger, and try to avoid taking pics while driving at busy roads. Traffic safety must come first.
* Driving south makes the most pics overlighted. Driving North on a clear day is the best. Drive west in the morning, east in the afternoon, because of the sunlight.

i doubt wheather those pics are old - i didn't see exit and knot numbers on SLO roads yet!

Nice roads and the pavement seems fresh on most of them, are they new or just recently maintained?


The sign says 80, is this because of the tunnel or thats the speed limit generally?

Because the tunnel, and the intersection immediatly after it.

i doubt wheather those pics are old - i didn't see exit and knot numbers on SLO roads yet!

I took the pix yesterday, and yes, these signs with knot numbers are new, but the ringroad, as I wrote, was completed in 1999 (the first part was opened in 1979).

Hm well so they arent old, 99 isnt old, the highway that passes near my place was completed in 96 and is in great condition(seems new), but anyway still those roads are excellent.

Pilotos: Only the eastern section with the tunnel was completed in 1999. The rest was completed by 1988.

Verso: Yeah, the new regulation prescribing exit numbering came into force a couple of months ago. It also eliminated some inconsistencies in the signage system and further unified it with the European standard. But the exit numbers have been put on the signs rather unaesthetically, unfortunately..

By the way, nice pics!

:applause:

Great reportage!

very nice verso:), some pics are a bit shaky but next time will be better i'm sure.. :cheers:

^^He would have done much better pictures if he didn't take then at the end of the day. ;)
Just a little more light needed for the pics to be perfect.

Nice highways! I loved the 2nd map! It's great! :applause:

^^He would have done much better pictures if he didn't take then at the end of the day. ;)
Just a little more light needed for the pics to be perfect.

Exactly. I regret for being too lazy to get my butt on the road earlier in the day. Yesterday I went to take photos of a local expressway at even LATER time than on monday, and they ALL turned out shaky. All those kilometers and money for the gas for nothing! :wallbash:

^^ do you have the camera set on auto?

^^ How could I do that?:nuts: Besides, you don't always take photos in the same direction.:)

Umm.. automatic.. means it automatically adjusts the settings for an optimum picture when you shoot a photo..

And c'mon, we need mo' pics! :D

Oh, I thought he meant set on the car (auto:D:D). Yes, I have on auto(matic:)). And yeah, a few more photos are on their way, the Imageshack wasn't working before. And 'nough of the chit-chat.:gunz::p

As a supplement to the expressway network of Ljubljana serves a short, almost 2-km 4-lane expressway, passing by a Ljubljana district Črnuče. It's designated as G104 ("G" stands for "glavna cesta" = highway / main road (looking internationally, it isn't important though); "G" doesn't appear on signs, only "104"). It isn't designated as H*, because only a very short part of the G104 road is expressway. It was put in traffic in 1981. I took the pictures yesterday.

Let's begin... Don't be surprised, if cars in front of me suddenly disappear from the next picture, I namely drove more than once on the road to get better photos. :) I started at the interchange between the H3 expressway and G104, reconstructed as roundabout in 1996.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/g104001sp0.jpg

Approaching the Tomačevo Roundabout.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/g104003ox8.jpg

In the roundabout... :)
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/g104004yh0.jpg

The "end" of Ljubljana (but just because we're on expressway ;)).
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/g104005cm5.jpg

Crossing the almost 1,000-km-long Sava River.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/g104006vz6.jpg

But in Ljubljana it isn't wide yet (no, I don't lock myself in car, the button is fu*ked up :lol:).
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/g104007hh3.jpg

Really doesn't feel like in a city here...
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/g104008yd6.jpg

The end. :)
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/g104027kr1.jpg

In Ljubljana "again". ;) From here on the road continues with 4 lanes for another 5 km, but with intersections, through urban area, and with a speed limit of 70 km/h (43 mph).
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/g104028ha0.jpg


A few more, random photos. Going in the other direction (approaching the expressway).
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/g104013om3.jpg

Back in the Tomačevo Roundabout.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/g104021xy7.jpg

This is not the G104, but H3. We're obviously getting new type of arrows.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/g104036tb3.jpg

Let's hope not many road tankers will crash here. :)
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/g104052sp1.jpg

All Slovenian motorways/freeways and expressways are video monitored. However, they won't fine you in case you speed, it may only be used in investigating car accidents.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/g104049tz0.jpg

:cheers:

Nice pictures, man!

I noticed that in some European countries they put extra signage on motorways. For instance, "give way" and "only straight" on the on-ramp and "no right turn" to prohibit entering the on-ramps from the motorway (i.e. wrong way). To me it really seems unnecessary.

I also noticed that some signs have yellow background ("give way") and some signs have white (speed limit). Unlike in Slovenia, in Baltic and some Scandinavian countries, if they use yellow background, then they use it for all signs.

^^ It's like that in Slovenia as well, but yellow signs are old, and white signs are new (adjustment to EU standards). The thing is that this changing from yellow to white (once it already was white:scouserd:) isn't such an important issue, so it's altogether gonna take about 10 years (the first white signs were installed already a few years ago).

^^ How could I do that?:nuts: Besides, you don't always take photos in the same direction.:)

hehehe lol I see, It was to vague for a thread like this :lol:

nice pics, shame they get shaken sometimes, u sure u don't have some setting on your cmera for "moving" situations you know shorter exposure time?..

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hehehe lol I see, It was to vague for a thread like this :lol:

nice pics, shame they get shaken sometimes, u sure u don't have some setting on your cmera for "moving" situations you know shorter exposure time?..

Not that I'd know of (well, I certainly don't have set on "night scene":lol:). Not that I have some special camera (Olympus μ 410 digital), but it's not easy to take photos while driving.

3 more from me :) East of Ljubljana...

http://shrani.si/files/dsc03649vwse.jpg

http://shrani.si/files/dsc03647vwsd.jpg

http://shrani.si/files/dsc03660vwsk.jpg

Photos from DARS (MOTORWAY COMPANY IN THE REPUBLIC OF SLOVENIA):

http://www.dars.si/img/IMG_6635.jpg

http://www.dars.si/img/fotogalerije/fotogalerija_novinarsko_sredisce/CPKompolje.jpg

Tunnel Kastelec:
http://www.dars.si/img/fotogalerije/fotogalerija_novinarsko_sredisce/PredorKastelec.jpg

http://www.dars.si/img/fotogalerije/fotogalerija_novinarsko_sredisce/Senozece.jpg

Viaduct Crni kal:
http://www.dars.si/img/fotogalerije/fotogalerija_novinarsko_sredisce/ViaduktCrniKal1.jpg

http://www.dars.si/img/fotogalerije/fotogalerija_novinarsko_sredisce/RazcepMalence.jpg

http://www.dars.si/img/fotogalerije/fotogalerija_novinarsko_sredisce/mb.jpg

Ljubljana City, it's ok, if you post some random photos, but I was having in mind a more settled reportages, where I'd drive on all Slovenian highways and take photos of them. I think that would be more in order, having the same highway in one post, plus not seeing the same sections again and again. And when I'm finished with taking photos of all the highways, we'd start putting in random photos, after all, I don't wanna see this thread vegetating for months. I'm planning to go in a different corner of Slovenia every week, so the thread won't die out. I somehow like the idea better. :)

Just a few comments:

http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/1916/g104036tb3.jpg
Oh God no, please don't tell me they're actually changing the arrows here as well! :cry:

The current ones are much nicer IMO..

http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/8163/g104049tz0.jpg
Actually, those cameras are used for monitoring traffic (you can check them yourself, at http://www.promet.si/?id=25), I'm not sure they can be used by the Police in investigating car accidents, and they don't cover the whole motorway network in detail, just a couple of sections across the whole network. If they covered the whole network that sign would be useless, since it would have to be put everywhere. :tongue2:

^^ They are only installed on on-ramps, and maybe they just haven't installed them yet on all places; I'm seeing more and more of them...

Are we talking about cameras or the new arrows?

Hehe, if we're talking about the cameras, they won't be installed on all places, just dangerous sections and sections with a lot of traffic. The only places which are fully monitored by security cameras and automated traffic controlling systems (those LED-displays every 500 metres) are currently the sections over Trojane and from Kozina to Koper, which have to be due to the large amount of tunnels and the terrain. However, it's expected that the Ljubljana Ring will be the next section to be upgraded with this "smart motorway" system. :)

Ljubljana City, it's ok, if you post some random photos, but I was having in mind a more settled reportages, where I'd drive on all Slovenian highways and take photos of them. I think that would be more in order, having the same highway in one post, plus not seeing the same sections again and again. And when I'm finished with taking photos of all the highways, we'd start putting in random photos, after all, I don't wanna see this thread vegetating for months. I'm planning to go in a different corner of Slovenia every week, so the thread won't die out. I somehow like the idea better. :)

Sorry, won't do it again :)

About the arrows... Yeah, they changed them 13.1.2007 together with some other traffic signs... http://www.tecajcpp.com/cpp/izrecne.php

I don't like those now arrows either... They're the same like Italian...

Are there many traffic jams in Slovenia?

^^ Only in rush hours and summer, and in and around Ljubljana and other bigger towns (including Koper, but that's more because of tourism by the Adriatic). Here (http://www.dc.gov.si/fileadmin/dc.gov.si/pageuploads/Stetje_prometa/Promet05.pdf) you can see the ammount of traffic in Slovenia in 2005.

Are we talking about cameras or the new arrows?Neither.:) I was talking about SIGNS, depicting a camera and the text "video nadzor prometa".

Sorry, won't do it again :)

About the arrows... Yeah, they changed them 13.1.2007 together with some other traffic signs... http://www.tecajcpp.com/cpp/izrecne.php

I don't like those now arrows either... They're the same like Italian...
Actually I meant I like the Italian ones.. Now we're gonna have German arrows on half of the signs (the round blue ones) and Italian arrows on directional signs.. Just great..

Oh, who cares about some stupid arrows...

Nice photographs! A small but not overcrowded country with lots of nice scenery makes for a fantastic road experience. :happy:

Oh, who cares about some stupid arrows...

Oh, who cares about some stupid cameras...

Anyway, we needs more photoz! :D

I'm afraid this thread is becoming a skybar...

Lol, don't worry, this is not a photo forum, but a motorways forum, which means you not only post pics of motorways, but you discuss them as well. :)

http://www.dars.si/img/fotogalerije/fotogalerija_novinarsko_sredisce/ViaduktCrniKal1.jpg

That would never be approved here. :P

It was either that or the first big air in motorway history. :lol:

I'm just saying, a bit road defacing a hill like that would not be very popular here at all. :P

That looks a smaller version of the Millau bridge in France. Very impressive. :okay:

Was that really crucial to change from http://mikul.net/images/old_sign.jpg to http://mikul.net/images/new_sign.jpg ? :D

^^ EU standards... :lol:

Your motorways provide some really fantastic views and seem to be at the same time very high standard!
That last picture reminds me of our A24. I'll need to take some pictures next time I go there.

Let's go to Styria (Štajerska)! :banana: This is the most important highway in Slovenia, connecting the three largest Slovenian cities/towns (Ljubljana, Maribor and Celje). It runs from Ljubljana to Austria, its length being 134 km (83 mi), of which there's currently 121 km (75 mi) of motorway/freeway, 7 km (4 mi) of 4-lane expressway and 6 km (4 mi) of urban 4-lane road. The missing section (Maribor motorway bypass) is going to be finished in 2009. The motorway's mostly been constructed in the last decade. I took the photos yesterday.

Fasten your seat belts... we're flying to Styria! :lol: This is where I started, in the northeastern corner of the Ljubljana Ring, at the interchange Zadobrova, between the A1 (eastern Ljubljana bypass) and H3 (northern Ljubljana bypass), continuing straight forward on the A1 motorway/freeway, the Styrian Highway (also E57 and Corridor V).
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1a5001mc6.jpg

The H3 expressway joining us.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1a5002wl6.jpg

We're crossing the Sava and approaching the last exit for Ljubljana.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1a5003ot8.jpg

...
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1a5004xw5.jpg

By many minor exits trucks weighing more than 7.5 tons aren't allowed to exit, if they are in transit.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1a5005ye7.jpg

The first toll ("ABC" stands for "avtomatsko brezgotovinsko cestninjenje" = electronic toll collection (ETC)).
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By the toll booth Kompolje (1.55 € for cars). On my way back I didn't have to pay, because a police car on emergency drive rushed right behind me, so they had to open the ramp before I could even open my wallet. :lol:
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Soon after the toll booth, begins about 15 km (10 mi) long section around the Trojane Pass, with a speed, limited to 100 km/h (62 mph). It's the most beautiful part of the highway, too bad it's just beginning of spring, so the greenery is not green yet.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1a5009se9.jpg

Approaching the first tunnel...
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1a5011vu3.jpg

There are radars in all the tunnels.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1a5012ik6.jpg

...
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Entering Slovenia's longest double-tube tunnel - Trojane. Above you can see a sign, saying exit in 4 km to something. It's about famous doughnuts, baked at the top of the Trojane Pass (609 m). And they are really good! :eat:
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1a5014yd2.jpg

:cool:
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1a5015rw7.jpg

Somewhat different portals of the next tunnel(s).
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1a5018hy7.jpg

Tunnels just won't stop...
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1a5019de2.jpg

...but it's the last tunnel on the Trojane section.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1a5020hu9.jpg

Slovenian, English, Italian, German ("autobahngebühr" is being replaced by a more common word "maut", and as all German consonants begin with capital letter, I think they skipped the rule not to stand out; now all expressions begin with capital letters).
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1a5021yq1.jpg

Toll booth Vransko (1.3 €).
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Let's have some beer! :cheers:
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1a5024bq2.jpg

Exit for an important road, leading to Carinthia (Koroška). By all the curiosities, looks like only Dravograd is boring. :D
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1a5025xm6.jpg

Rest area Lopata (Shovel :D). I forgot to take a photo of rest area Lukovica, not far from Ljubljana, run by a Swiss company Marché Restaurant (http://www.moevenpick-gastronomy.com/marche/de/), and as I'm from Ljubljana, I don't stop at such near rest areas, but I had to go pee :D and I was surprised at how fancy it looked; not especially big, but fancy.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1a5026uj3.jpg

...
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1a5027rr6.jpg

Now look at this sign and remember the distances (at least for Graz).
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1a5028am2.jpg

On the Celje bypass. This is Slovenia's 3rd largest town (40,000 inhabitants :)).
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1a5029tq8.jpg

Celje-center.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1a5031yv9.jpg

Do you remember the distances? So now we've got 7 km MORE to Graz than before! :lol:
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1a5033dm9.jpg

How did I just manage to shoot such a clear photo...
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...
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Some tourism going on...
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Rest area Zima (Winter :)).
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1a5037mj7.jpg

An isolated couple of old double-tube tunnels.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1a5038nm3.jpg

One of my favorite views - two tunnels and a pretty long viaduct between them.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1a5039be4.jpg

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Tepanje - oh yes, this is a third pay toll (2.55 €) between the two Slovenian largest cities (Ljubljana and Maribor), on just 111 km (69 mi). :sleepy:
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1a5044cl6.jpg

By now you've probably figured out what "počivališče" means. ;)
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1a5045xd5.jpg

Exit for Ptuj. And if you try to go through Pragersko, they will shoot you. :lol: Joke, it's sports (within the brown square there's also the English word "PULL" written).
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1a5047ad0.jpg

I hate rest areas without water...
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1a5048cs7.jpg

We're by interchange Slivnica, close to Maribor. The A1 motorway/freeway continues straight forward, but until the entire Maribor motorway bypass is completed, it's more of a local motorway (photos of it will come later), so we're turning right, for Maribor and Austria.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1a5050fj1.jpg

A strange motorway interchange, where we could already say we're on another motorway, but as it's still a little too short (just for another mile or so), it's still A1. Anyway, we've come to its end (it will continue later again). Man, I always forget to clean my car's armature, this dust is so ugly. :ohno:
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1a5051yy4.jpg

We're continuing on the R430 ("R" stands for "regionalna cesta" = regional road; the "R" doesn't appear on signs, only "430"; I don't know how such an important road can be regional :hammer:).
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1a5052vj2.jpg

That motorway is just the local part of the A1.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1a5053uv8.jpg

You can't get lost here, just go straight forward. :) Hofer in the back...
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1a5054mb0.jpg

Perfect place for shopping centers...
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We're entering Slovenia's 2nd largest city - Maribor (100,000 inhabitants).
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1a5057ls4.jpg

Exit for the center of Maribor, we're continuing straight forward.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1a5058in9.jpg

Yuck, what an ugly windowpane.
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We've reached 4-lane expressway through Maribor (H2, E57, E59, Corridors V and Xa). Road from Ptuj and Zagreb is joining us.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1a5066ex5.jpg

Roadworks. Note: I'm on the left side of the expressway.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1a5068ro2.jpg

Maribor "skyline". :) We're crossing the more than 700-km-long Drava River ("Drau" in German) and driving on a 2-floor bridge (me being at the top of it).
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1a5069vg5.jpg

An old sign...
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1a5071fc3.jpg

I like signs with many colors. :cool: Vineyards in the back.
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Approaching the Pesnica Roundabout. The V. Pan-European Transport Corridor continues towards Murska Sobota and Hungary (the only Hungarian place, depicted on traffic signs in Slovenia, is a small border town Lenti :lol:). Anyway, we're choosing motorway for Graz.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1a5073yp7.jpg

On motorway/freeway again (A1, E57, E59, Corridor Xa).
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1a5075rx9.jpg

Only 10 km (6 mi) to the border. As there's only sign for Graz here (and the unnecessary "international border crossing Šentilj"), sign for Vienna (about 240 km (150 mi) from here) would be nice. :)
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And a fourth pay toll (0.75 €). :sleepy: Altogether Ljubljana - Austria = 6.15 € for 134 km (83 mi) of toll roads (0.046 € per kilometer (0.074 € per mile)).
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The last exit before the border between Slovenia and Austria. It's just 1 km to the border crossing Šentilj/Spielfeld-Autobahn, from where the Austrian A9 motorway/freeway continues. I'm taking the exit, trucks are obliged to do the same.
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This is how the border crossing looks like.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/entiljng3.jpg
http://www.kompas-mts.si/fotografija.asp?j=1&id=3&kraj=15&objekt=65&slika=sentilj.jpg

Going back...
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In Maribor again. In order to reach the local short part of the A1 motorway, I have to take the main road Maribor - Zagreb (the Podravje Highway), designated as G1 (also E59 and Corridor Xa). Two sexy boys on scooter. :D
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1a5059wm6.jpg

I think it's time for new pavement.
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We're leaving the G1, E59 and Corridor Xa, and are continuing on the A1 motorway for Ljubljana.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1a5062ko8.jpg

We're on part of the future Maribor motorway bypass (but I don't think it's already considered E57).
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"Letališče" = airport (usually written "aerodrom"). The Maribor Airport has few traffic though. A couple of kilometers later we join the main motorway/freeway Graz - Maribor - Ljubljana.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1a5064vd8.jpg

:cheers2:

Slovenia looks cool.

Lenti :rofl:

ok, questions:
1. how far from Ljubljana is first tunnel (in direction MB) and how far is cp Kompolje?
2. are there any plans about starting with closed system of paying toll?

^^

1. The first tunnel - about 20 km from the interchange Zadobrova in Ljubljana (A1-H3), pay toll Kompolje - around 15 km from the same interchange; the numbers can vary a bit, I'm not so sure.

2. No, they are keeping it the way it is (I know, 3 pay tolls between Ljubljana and Maribor, and another one until you reach the Austrian border:sleepy:), because soon we're getting electronic toll collection or sth like that, so there's no point in changing the system now.


Btw, you can soon expect nicer photos (of my car), in three days I'm changing from Peugeot 405 to Peugeot 406, yay. :banana2:


P.S.: @oogabooga, I just saw you viewing this thread; what the hell is the Slovenian flag doing in your avatar??? :D :D :)

because already in 2008 we're getting electronic toll collection or sth like that, so it's no point in changing the system now.


so you're leaving this way of paying toll with toll-booths??

^^ Of course, isn't that what the entire EU is doing in 2008? Btw, toll-booths will still be there by 2011, but the toll will be collected electronically from all vehicles; after 2011 it's gonna be collected via satellites, if it doesn't get delayed.

http://www.dars.si/img/fotogalerije/fotogalerija_novinarsko_sredisce/ViaduktCrniKal1.jpg

Great photo! With projects like this the Slovene people can finally bury the bitter folk memories of the 1969 Yugoslav Motorway Funding Crisis.

I like driving in Slovenia, the infrastructure is good and the traffic is usually light.

^^ Of course, isn't that what the entire EU is doing in 2008? Btw, toll-booths will still be there by 2011, but the toll will be collected electronically from all vehicles; after 2011 it's gonna be collected via satellites, if it doesn't get delayed.

i hear for that for first time!:cry: i like tool boots!!!

^^ Crazy! :laugh:

I like driving in Slovenia, the infrastructure is good and the traffic is usually light.

Hah!
Slovenians are THE most insane drivers in the world. ;)

^^ Beware of me, I drive and take photos at the same time! :lol:

[IMG] With projects like this the Slovene people can finally bury the bitter folk memories of the 1969 Yugoslav Motorway Funding Crisis.
what kind of crisis was that?

This toll system is so complicated, sweaty and i hope so it will be abandon. I saw that for the 1st time in my life in Macedonia and i thought it was their "product", too bad it is not.
anyway great photos, great work. Highways are beautiful. Today i will maybe be driving them or at least this Graz-MB part.

Hah!
Slovenians are THE most insane drivers in the world. ;)

I don't find them too bad, the Italians and Croatians are crazier imo.

Great pics, Verso!

I wonder why there are no signs towards austria in Maribor. Only Sentilj, no Graz or something.

Tolls are quite cheap, compared to France, and the future possible tolls in the Netherlands (€ 0,15 per km in congested roads).

But the A1 looks great! Slovenia is a nice small country :)

i like the slovenian highways, they're modern and not so full like in germany :)

Great pics, Verso!Thanks. But I still don't use zoom (if I wanted not to get the car's interior), b/c I'm afraid photos would be more blurry, and I don't wanna drive 500 km for nothing. ;) (I also went to the Hungarian border, pix will follow)

I wonder why there are no signs towards austria in Maribor. Only Sentilj, no Graz or something.You're probably having sth like this in mind:http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/8637/a1a5058in9.jpgWell, at least there's sign for Austria (A). :) But IMO Šentilj is a little unnecessary here, it's a village. And I don't know how Lendava (close to Hungary) can be on the sign, but not Murska Sobota, which is much bigger (could be just "M. Sobota"); it's like having a sign for Lisbon in Barcelona, but not for Madrid. :lol: (even if Spain and Portugal were in the same country) Btw, Pobrežje is part of Maribor, so it's necessary.

I wonder why there are no signs towards austria in Maribor. Only Sentilj, no Graz or something.


there are! they say Gradec for Graz, maybe this is confusing you. look at those direction-confirmation signs, each has Graz!

^^ Not in Maribor. :)

Oh, who cares about some stupid arrows...

Feel free to comment ANYTHING! Sorry for being rude, I was a little embarrassed to see this thread at the top of the page, as I only had photos of the Ljubljana ringroad back then. :)

Thanks. But I still don't use zoom (if I wanted not to get the car's interior), b/c I'm afraid photos would be more blurry, and I don't wanna drive 450 km for nothing. ;)

You might experience some with optical zoom. (not digital!)

I use it all the time, actually, i took 213 pics today with optical zoom out of my car, and i have to throw away some 3 of it (because of too much sunlight). I have very rarely blurred pics because of my optical zoom. But then again, it's your choice, i like your pics anyway ;)

you can find my pics here (http://forum.autosnelwegen.nl/viewtopic.php?t=7316), here (http://forum.autosnelwegen.nl/viewtopic.php?t=7317) and here (http://forum.autosnelwegen.nl/viewtopic.php?t=7318) on the Dutch motorway forum (no Dutch is required in order to download the pics)

By the way, are all signs on non-motorways yellow? (like Germany)

^^ Expressways are blue, "ordinary" roads are yellow, and "ordinary" roads in urban areas are white.

you can find my pics here (http://forum.autosnelwegen.nl/viewtopic.php?t=7316), here (http://forum.autosnelwegen.nl/viewtopic.php?t=7317) and here (http://forum.autosnelwegen.nl/viewtopic.php?t=7318) on the Dutch motorway forum (no Dutch is required in order to download the pics)Nice photos! :) Were you the driver?

Yes, i drive alone (because i'm living alone) and take the pics while driving. This isn't so hard unless you've got heavy traffic.

^^ You're only 19, and live alone? :) I'll probably stay by my parents until the age of 30. :lol:

:)

:)

Lol.. Wonderful pics! One thing though, as far as I understand, the *** toll system will be a closed electronic one - you pay as much as you use, but electronically.

^^ You're probably talking about the time between 2008 and 2011 (supposedly), b/c after that we won't need any toll booths any more, as toll's gonna be collected via satellites. But then, how can the system be closed, when now it's open (except on the Ljubljana-Koper motorway)? They won't install n_e_w toll booths on every interchange, or what??

I doubt it, they'll probably just install electronic sensors on all exits and keep the open systems for those not paying electronically. :)

^^ You're probably talking about the time between 2008 and 2011 (supposedly), b/c after that we won't need any toll booths any more, as toll's gonna be collected via satellites. But then, how can the system be closed, when now it's open (except on the Ljubljana-Koper motorway)? They won't install n_e_w toll booths on every interchange, or what??

How is that going to work? You'll have to have a GPS antenna in your car so they could see you or what? What about foreign cars?

^^ No idea. :)

Currently the project is still being planned. However there are many options for the type of electronic toll. One is by GPS/Galileo satellite receivers, another is by upgrading the ABC system and the third is by utilising mobile phones. I don't know if things have changed since, but when I read about it a year or so ago they were talking about that..

This highway runs from Pesnica by Maribor to Hungary. Its length is 90 km (56 mi), of which there's currently only 10 km (6 mi) of motorway/freeway (built in 2002/2003 to avoid Murska Sobota) and 80 km (50 mi) of 2-lane road. Its completion is scheduled for the next year. It has an interesting history of traffic intensity. It only became important in 1991, when Slovenia got independent, and it thus became illogical for trucks to drive between Slovenia and Hungary through another country (Croatia), although that's shorter and faster. Before that it was only a regional road. The second boom occured in 2004, when Slovenia, Hungary and some other countries joined the European Union, which increased freight traffic significantly. We encountered the last boom in January 2007, when also Romania and Bulgaria entered the EU. Freight traffic through Serbia and Croatia thus decreased by more than 20 %. That's why this highway is full of trucks, you'll see by yourselves. By the time Croatia joins the EU, there will have been a full motorway connection between the Slovenian and Hungarian capitals (Ljubljana and Budapest). The pictures were taken by me five days ago.

I started at the interchange between H2, A1 and G3, constructed as a roundabout (called Pesnica).http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1a5073yp7.jpg

We took the first exit, and are now on the G3 (also Corridor V (all the way to the border and beyond)).
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1a5082nr9.jpg

Near a village, called Pernica (not Pesnica). On my way back this is where my car reached 190,000 km. :cool: (half way to the Moon :D)
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1a5083uc9.jpg

Hrastovec castle. Since 1948 it's hosted a psychiatric clinic.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1a5085ch6.jpg

Hotel Črni les (Black Wood). It used to be a nursing home, but an affair a couple of years ago closed it down.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1a5086gq6.jpg

This (Belarusian) truck was in front of me all the time. It's not easy to overtake here, because of a winding road and heavy on-going traffic, and even if you do so, you'll encounter another truck. :) My average speed was 40 km/h (25 mph). :sleepy:
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1a5087aw3.jpg

This is Slovenia's poorest region? :sly:
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1a5088sx9.jpg

Church...
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1a5089vg3.jpg

There's a very interesting-looking pharmacy by this roundabout, but almost all we can see is my car. :wallbash:
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1a5090co6.jpg

Finally on the A5 motorway/freeway. The speed limit is, surprisingly, only 100 km/h (62 mph).
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1a5091ez6.jpg

You thought we were finally on a high-speed road? Think again - what on Earth is going on? I stepped out of the car and figured out that some truckers had occupied the overtaking lane. :bash: The traffic jam (caused mostly by trucks) was almost 10 km long. And now we're standing right on the longest Slovenian bridge, over river Mura ("Mur" in German) - 833 m. As you can see by the jogger on the left, the bridge has extra lanes for pedestrians.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1a5092er1.jpg

"Motorway"...
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1a5094hm8.jpg

After we cross the Mura, Prekmurje begins. We passed by a rest area and exit for Murska Sobota, and are now looking at the G3, that is - trucks.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1a5095xj3.jpg

End of motorway in 500 m.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1a5096xz1.jpg

The train Venice - Ljubljana - Budapest runs also through Croatia. But now you're looking at the railway between Ljubljana and Budapest, going directly from Slovenia to Hungary.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1a5097pg0.jpg

They better finish the motorway on time, this is unbearable.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1a5098hm6.jpg

In Odranci.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1a5101vf4.jpg

And the front view:http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/415f9d21.jpg

In Črenšovci.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1a5102yw8.jpg

By Hotiza. Believe it or not, but we're looking at Croatia.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1a5103nv3.jpg

We're entering the Slovenian-Hungarian-speaking part of Slovenia. :) Somewhere around here, as we were standing in a traffic jam, a police car came across, and as I was the first one by car after all those trucks, the policeman told me to overtake them right after he and two trucks behing him leave. Ok, he goes on, the two trucks go by, so I start overtaking... and almost crash with another truck! Damn cop! :bash:
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1a5105ki7.jpg

We've reached the biggest Slovenian-Hungarian-speaking town, Lendava (Lendva) - 3,500 inhabitants. :) As I can see, despite the fact that Hungary built the M70 expressway almost to the Slovenian border a few years ago, the border crossing there is too small to handle so much freight traffic (motorway will be opened next year), and therefore the main road still goes through Lenti. To avoid all these trucks, cars were at the time being forbidden to turn left (the police were regulating the traffic, but you can't see them, because they are right in front of this truck), so I had to turn right. If one still wants to go to Lenti, (s)he can go through Lendava, instead of via the bypass. But if you just want to go to Hungary (Budapest, for example), there are later signs for Hungary (H), leading to the Hungarian M70 expressway, so that's how it's regulated. :)
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1a5106oi5.jpg

I drove through Lendava and am now joining the Lendava bypass (the G3 again). I'm turning left, because just 1 km ahead there's a border crossing between Slovenia and Hungary, called Dolga vas (Hosszúfalu) / Rédics. From there continues a Hungarian 2-lane road, number 86.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1a5124yh4.jpg

This is how the border crossing looks like.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/dolgavascu7.jpg
http://www.kompas-mts.si/fotografija.asp?j=1&id=4&kraj=20&objekt=81&slika=dolga-vas.jpg

On the Lendava bypass. As I was prohibited to drive here before, and as there were no cops at the earlier intersection, I sneaked in. :naughty: As you can see, I'm the only one by car here, everything else is trucks...
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1a5125dh7.jpg

...trucks...
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1a5127cu0.jpg

...and again - trucks. Welcome to the free market of half a billion people.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1a5128sx2.jpg

But the motorway is under construction...
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1a5132sb1.jpg

Now let's go to the border crossing, from where we can reach the Hungarian M70 expressway. We firstly had to drive 100 m on the G109, and then took the R443. On the first picture, instead of the traffic sign, all we can see is my lion's butt. :lol:
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1a5107ma3.jpg

This short section to the border is inhabited all along.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1a5108ez0.jpg

We're entering the last village before the border - Pince (Pince :D). I know we're in a bilingual area, but what's the purpose of writing two identical names? :)
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1a5109op8.jpg

We've reached the border crossing between Slovenia and Hungary, called Pince/Tornyiszentmiklós. As you can see, it's definitely too small to handle transit freight traffic. ;) Besides, despite being an international border crossing, it's open only between 6 am and 10 pm. In Hungary you continue on a 2-lane road, number 75333, but in just a few kilometers you reach the 2-lane M70 expressway, which soon merges in the M7 motorway/freeway.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1a5110qy6.jpg

:cheers:

Nice! Can't wait for the A5 to be finished - interestingly enough, it won't have emergency lanes from Vučja vas all the way to Pince, don't know why. I guess the speed limit will be 100 km/h the whole way.. :(

I guess the speed limit will be 100 km/h the whole way.. :(

that's because it is not full profiled (no emergency lanes).
nice pics (instead of few, for instance your lion's but :D)

^^Yes, I realize that, it's weird though..

that's because it is not full profiled (no emergency lanes).

True, but Jesenice bypass is the same (without hard shoulders), and the speed limit is 130 km/h. The same thing is with the motorway by Nova Gorica, where 100 km/h is just the recommended speed, the speed limit is otherwise 130 km/h.

^^Indeed, and that motorway is actually the H4 expressway! Urgh, this is confusing..

^^ It's the H4 MOTORWAY there, don't forget. ;) The road number doesn't necessarily mean it's expressway.

H stands for hitra cesta so that isn't logical. Anyway I expect these irregularities to be taken care of soon..

^^ I wouldn't like that to be changed, as it would only make it more confusing. I like an entire section to be designated the same, and as there's more expressway there than motorway, it's better to be H4, instead of A4 or whatever (well, A4 is already reserved). Besides, that motorway isn't all that top-notch (without hard shoulders, recommended speed limit 100 km/h). Although, I wouldn't like (for example) the whole Ljubljana - Jesenice road to be A2 (meaning also the 2-lane sections:D). I think the H4 is just a special case. It's nevertheless clear where motorway and where expressway there are.

Besides, stop complaining, or else they will turn the motorway into expressway! :D Seriously, I can't imagine the motorway and expressway there being designated differently. :)

Why? They are technically exactly the same..

^^ Well, that's exactly why. :) (I don't think I understand your question though)

Oh, wait, I thought you were talking about the colour of the signs, hehe. No, the road number should definitely stay the same, the colours should be unified, and thus the speed limit! :)

^^ To which color would that be? :D If into blue (expressway), then you wouldn't be allowed to drive 130 km/h on the current motorway any more. :( If into green (motorway), well, then, 130 km/h is maybe too much for that bora wind over there. :P Hey, even smilies in this post are green and blue! :D :D

(Maybe green (motorway) with a speed limit 100 km/h, like on the A5?)

Nah, I thought of blue. Currently it's 130 on the green stretch, but the recommended speed is 100 km/h. And besides, people dirve over 100 km/h on the whole stretch, even over 130 km/h.. ;)

^^ I like green more, b/c you may drive 130 km/h. :D And if you exceed the allowed speed and caught on radar, you'll still be better off by speed limit 130 than 100 km/h. ;)

Hehe, true! Anyway, we need more pix! :D

Oh and by the way, the amount of trucks in Pomurje is unbelievable! I knew it was a lot but never in my wildest dreams could I imagine it was THAT much! I'm wondering why they haven't assassinated somebody because of it yet! Anyway, won't be long now.. Next year, it'll all be over. :)

Well, since Verso hasn't bothered to post any new pix, in the meantime until he posts his, I'm posting mine. Mind you they're a bit old (up to two years old) so some stuff may have been changed. And excuse the lighting and dirty windshield, I couldn't do anything about the lighting, since it was on a long-distance trip, and the bugs.. Well, they were some nasty buggers sticking to the glass like that.. :D

A1 Ljubljana - Koper:

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/15/dsc035415vn.jpg

http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/2240/dsc059275qg.jpg

http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/7174/dsc059252bg.jpg

http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/729/dsc059178rz.jpg

A1/A2 Ljubljana Ringroad:

http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/7461/dsc041637pc.jpg

http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/6887/dsc041625hz.jpg

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/2182/dsc041610hv.jpg

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/9566/dsc041602nz.jpg

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/7248/dsc041594ms.jpg

http://img275.imageshack.us/img275/954/dsc041574ff.jpg

http://img275.imageshack.us/img275/2862/dsc041567on.jpg

http://img275.imageshack.us/img275/858/dsc041557om.jpg

http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/4684/smalldsc041603fm.jpg

A1 Ljubljana - Maribor:

http://img275.imageshack.us/img275/2895/dsc041485jp.jpg

http://img275.imageshack.us/img275/7814/dsc041466op.jpg

http://img275.imageshack.us/img275/4062/dsc041458do.jpg

http://img275.imageshack.us/img275/2510/dsc041447iv.jpg

http://img275.imageshack.us/img275/3760/dsc041432dq.jpg

http://img275.imageshack.us/img275/7346/dsc057458ut.jpg

http://img275.imageshack.us/img275/6753/dsc057447bk.jpg

http://img275.imageshack.us/img275/4518/dsc057427ty.jpg

H4 Razdrto - Vrtojba (Nova Gorica)

http://img275.imageshack.us/img275/5751/dsc050256oz.jpg

http://img275.imageshack.us/img275/5004/dsc050159wz.jpg

http://img324.imageshack.us/img324/61/dsc050130yp.jpg

http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/3148/smalldsc050158zp.jpg

Those motorways of yours look excellent!

Those motorways of yours look excellent!

Indeed! :)

Nice pics. Beautiful country! it's about damn time i head southeast ;)

What's left for me to photograph? :cry: :D



http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/7248/dsc041594ms.jpgI think this is the only junction I didn't take a pic of in the first post. :)

Lol, Verso, you have the entire A2 to photograph, plus a lot of the A1 and the entire H5 (what's of it)..

So worry not ;)

Lol, Verso, you have the entire A2 to photograph, plus a lot of the A1 and the entire H5 (what's of it)..

I always take the last exit before the border (don't feel like going across:D), so you mean those 0.75 km? :hahaha:

No problem. ;)

Extend your journeys into Croatia or Austria!:cool:

^^ Hey hey hey, in Slovenia alone I'll have to drive about 1,300 km, that's quite some gas and pay tolls! :D Maybe on another occasions. ;)

Yeah i know, it goes fast. Today i took a photo journey on some countryside roads in The Netherlands, i drove 220km. (and 225 pics, a bit much, since i haven't made pics of half the drive).

Hmm.. I better not post the second part of my piccies or Verso will kill me.. :D

And wow, Chris, 225 pics.. 1 pic per km (or 2 per km considering you only took pictures half the way).. I can't imagine taking that much pics! :runaway:

Hmm.. I better not post the second part of my piccies or Verso will kill me.. :D

Exactly. :D Why don't you save them for when I won't have anything more to post? Save them for hard times. :)

Hehe, well, it depends on what you consider hard times.. :D

Yeah i know, it goes fast. Today i took a photo journey on some countryside roads in The Netherlands, i drove 220km. (and 225 pics, a bit much, since i haven't made pics of half the drive).
Do batch resizing and let us see them! :banana:

And wow, Chris, 225 pics.. 1 pic per km (or 2 per km considering you only took pictures half the way).. I can't imagine taking that much pics! :runaway:

Yeah, but it was off-motorway, so there is a lot more to see :lol:

Do batch resizing and let us see them!

You can download them here (http://forum.autosnelwegen.nl/viewtopic.php?t=7394), here (http://forum.autosnelwegen.nl/viewtopic.php?t=7400) and here (http://forum.autosnelwegen.nl/viewtopic.php?t=7399) on the Dutch motorway forum.

The reason why i don't take pics of Dutch Motorways (Autosnelwegen) is that the entire network has almost been on the pic by our fellow forumers Frits and others. The majority of those pics can be found on www.roadpics.net (http://www.roadpics.net/), now only compromising the Netherlands, but Belgium and Luxemburg will be covered soon.

Hehe, well, it depends on what you consider hard times.. :D

Thread being on the last page of forum! :D

Haha, wow, those really ARE hard times.. Anyway, if you don't want me to post any pics you do it.. ;)

We're going to the Littoral (Primorska)! :banana2: This highway connects Ljubljana with the Slovenian coast of the Adriatic Sea. In order to reach it, you have to go through the Inner Carniola (Notranjska), mostly karstic region, that's why it's so sparsely populated. Its length is 95 km (59 mi), and is motorway/freeway all the way. More than half of it was built in the 1970s, and the rest mostly in the last decade. I took the photos yesterday.

I started in the southwestern corner of the Ljubljana Ring, at interchange Kozarje, between the A2 (western Ljubljana bypass) and A1/A2 (southern Ljubljana bypass), turning right, onto the A1 motorway (also E61, E70 and Corridor V).
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1primorska001cb8.jpg

The last exit, free of charge.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1primorska004lc7.jpg

Ljubljana west. This toll booth will soon be renamed into "Log". The Littoral Highway is the only one in Slovenia with closed pay system, so you only take ticket here.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1primorska006rd7.jpg

Right after this exit starts the oldest Slovenian motorway (Vrhnika-Postojna; 30 km), put in traffic in 1972 (back then also the first motorway in Yugoslavia).
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1primorska007jy7.jpg

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1primorska008cm9.jpg

The first tunnel. :D
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1primorska010hq5.jpg

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1primorska011bm5.jpg

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1primorska012xd0.jpg

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1primorska013la5.jpg

Let's pee. :D
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1primorska015dl0.jpg

Thanks to Marché for their lovely rest areas.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1primorska016jc9.jpg

23 km to Postojna and the cave.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1primorska017iy6.jpg

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1primorska018lw7.jpg

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1primorska020km3.jpg

I'm driving more than 50 km/h. :D
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1primorska022iv8.jpg

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1primorska023gs0.jpg

It's a bad picture, but anyway, this rest area is called Ravbarkomanda. =)
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1primorska024or3.jpg

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6 km to the Postojna Cave.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1primorska026zs6.jpg

Under the Littoral railway.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1primorska028xl6.jpg

Important exit.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1primorska030vw5.jpg

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1primorska031fb5.jpg

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1primorska032ty7.jpg

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1primorska036hi6.jpg

Exit for Electronic Toll Collection users only.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1primorska038mn0.jpg

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1primorska039uy0.jpg

Interchange Nanos (previously called Razdrto).
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1primorska040pw6.jpg

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1primorska043ct8.jpg

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1primorska044ji8.jpg

Interchange Gabrk. The V. Corridor continues right, but also straight forward to Koper (both are main lines). We're continuing straight forward and leaving the E61 and E70.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1primorska046na8.jpg

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1primorska047yj7.jpg

Exit for stud farm with famous Lipizzaner horses in Lipica (pronounced Lipizza) and caves protected by UNESCO.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1primorska048tf1.jpg

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1primorska050hb1.jpg

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1primorska052se1.jpg

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1primorska054zl5.jpg

We're crossing the E61 (it has a little strange route).
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1primorska055km9.jpg

The highway costs 4.4 €.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1primorska057fy7.jpg

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1primorska059oq7.jpg

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1primorska061vw2.jpg

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1primorska062yz9.jpg

If your breaks stop working, don't worry.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1primorska064jt8.jpg

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1primorska065vv1.jpg

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1primorska066zu5.jpg

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1primorska067ev9.jpg

Viaduct Črni Kal (1,061 m).
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1primorska068yy9.jpg

The viaduct.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/viaduktcrnikal1dz0.jpg
Photo: DARS

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1primorska069gf8.jpg

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1primorska070ah6.jpg

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1primorska071fa7.jpg

Radar again.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1primorska072zt5.jpg

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1primorska073kx7.jpg

My tunnel pictures are getting better and better. :lol:
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1primorska074wc6.jpg

The entire Slovenian coast is Slovenian-Italian-speaking. :) Interchange Srmin.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1primorska075fs1.jpg

We're turning left.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1primorska076oq4.jpg

The recommended speed.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1primorska079qd8.jpg

Expressway to the port of Koper isn't built yet.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1primorska080xc6.jpg

In 500 m we join the 4-lane H5 Coastal Expressway.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1primorska083or0.jpg

:cheers:

Great pictures and motorways! I've only got two questions for you: Why is there no hardshoulder in some parts of that motorway and does that electronic board switch from english to slovenian every few seconds or is it permanently in english?

^^ If there are three lanes (additional for slow vehicles on slopes), there's never hard shoulder by. :)

About the language:http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/2952/a1primorska054zl5.jpgWhere do you see English here? :D Yeah, it switches every few seconds, that's why I couldn't get this in English, but I got it on some other highway. :P

Nice pictures! That last set looked like a drive across upstate New York on I-86/Southern Tier Expressway and a sidetrip on I-88.

:)

BTW, with the EU's 'Borderless Zone', when can we expect the various Slovenian border crossing checkpoints to disappear?

Oh yea, Congrats on your country's accession to the Euro! (I like your €0.20 coin's design, too.)
:cheers1:

Mike

^ Horses are great animals. :cheers1:

The borders are to fall at the end of this year. :)


EDIT: well, here you got it - Lipizzaner from Lipica (pronounced Lipizza). :)http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/803/a1primorska048tf1.jpg

A1 looks very well maintained on these pictures. Plus, those signs giving distances to the cities in Italy in Croatia really make it feel more international.

By the way, does anybody know if the US freeway signs provide distances to some of the Canadian cities? And vice versa?

Great pics. But there are too many destinations on the distance signs...

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/8343/a1primorska065vv1.jpg
What is this for?

I suppose that a emergency exit if your breaks fail.

^ At the top of the slope is probably sand (and perhaps some barrels at the end), so a truck can stop if breaks stop working.

EDIT: yeah, earthJoker's already answered. :) It's like on the Swiss A12 just before Lake Geneva. :)

Wow, wonderful pics! Only one thing, you posted a picture of the Nova Gorica area in some other thread, exactly where did you go? :)

You see those ramps a lot on the French A75 too.

Wow, wonderful pics! Only one thing, you posted a picture of the Nova Gorica area in some other thread, exactly where did you go? :)Stalking you. :tongue2: Naah, I went nowhere, I just wanna photograph all our highways as soon as possible, I can't wait to have a need to go to all four corners of Slovenia in just two months; I mean, what shall I do in Lendava for example? :D Although, I have an ex-girlfriend there. :laugh:

You? A girlfriend? :D

Hehe, you could go to Lendava just for the sake of it, though! Then again you already did, didn't you? Oh well, too bad there is a very limited amount of things to photograph here, I want to see it all ASAP.. But what will happen afterwards? :(

^ Depression. :D

Yeah, in the Netherlands, we have taken pics of every kilometer of motorway - in both directions! http://www.skyscrapercity.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

So now we take it to the next level; phototrips to Germany, Luxemburg, Belgium and France

^^ If there are three lanes (additional for slow vehicles on slopes), there's never hard shoulder by. :)

About the language:Where do you see English here? :D Yeah, it switches every few seconds, that's why I couldn't get this in English, but I got it on some other highway. :P
I see it here:
http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/3650/a1primorska043ct8.jpg
:D
Regarding the hardshoulder, I thought all motorways were supposed to have it irrespective of the number of lanes.

Well, that third lane is just a temporary third lane on steeper slopes, therefore it doesn't have to have a hard shoulder. It's not a Slovenian invention, though, it's found in other countries as well..

^^ Yeah well, on one such third lane my mum ran out of gas a few weeks ago. :lol: :lol: She didn't pay attention to the fuel level, and all she needed, were another 100 meters, then the motorway sweeps down to a gas station. :D

I.e. you blocked out an entire lane :D That's why I don't understand how that can be a safe system :)

^ I wasn't in the car. :P

Let's take a ride along the Adriatic Coast (Obala)! :dj: Slovenian coast is only 47 km (29 mi) long, it lies on the Istrian peninsula and is squeezed between Italy and Croatia. The highway's length is 29 km (18 mi), of which there's currently 1 km of motorway, 10 km (6 mi) of 4-lane expressway and 18 km (11 mi) of 2-lane road. Most of the expressway was built in the beginning of the 1990s or sooner, and the rest in the last decade. Its completion is expected in the upcoming years. I took the photos 2 days ago.

I started by the border crossing between Slovenia and Italy, called Škofije / Rabuiese (Rabujez). I took the last exit before the border and turned around towards Croatia.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1primorska086nq9.jpg

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1primorska088xd6.jpg

Trieste. :cool:
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1primorska090yu8.jpg

The border-crossing area.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1primorska091kw6.jpg

From the Trieste 4-lane-expressway bypass (SS202) you have to drive for a few kilometers on a 2-lane road SS15 to reach Slovenia (4-lane expressway will be opened next year). In Slovenia you immediately continue on the 4-lane H5 expressway (also E751).
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1primorska092kq9.jpg

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1primorska093pv1.jpg

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1primorska094fw3.jpg

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1primorska095vm1.jpg

Interchange Srmin. For a kilometer or so we're getting on motorway, I don't know what that's good for...
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1primorska097ou7.jpg

Back on expressway. :nuts: We joined highway from Ljubljana, and Corridor V.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1primorska084zg9.jpg

An old sign. But at least it's without that stupid Slovenian "Pulj". :lol:
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1primorska098kz9.jpg

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1primorska100lz2.jpg

Koper "skyline".
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1primorska101jn6.jpg

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1primorska104wl6.jpg

Approaching the only cloverleaf interchange in Slovenia (called Slavček (Nightingale)). As far as I know, the V. Corridor turns right (the first exit) and runs to the port of Koper. The main road for Pula (Pola) exits right after, but we continue straight forward on the G111 expressway (still E751).
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1primorska105bj0.jpg

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1primorska107ts6.jpg

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1primorska108ix0.jpg

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1primorska109mk4.jpg

The end of expressway.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1primorska110od8.jpg

The sea! :happy:
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1primorska111ej0.jpg

Although we've actually been driving through Koper for a few minutes, we're only now entering it, because expressways are officially outside urban areas. Koper (Capodistria) is the biggest town along Slovenian coast and the biggest Slovenian-Italian-speaking town, with 25,000 inhabitants. :)
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1primorska112he8.jpg

This year's April is unbelievably warm.
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Izola (Isola).
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1primorska116ho4.jpg

We're turning left.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a1primorska117im8.jpg

Entering the 2.3-km part of the 4-lane G111 expressway.
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:)
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We're continuing straight forward, passing by Portorož.
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Pizzeria San Carlo. :D
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Exit for Sečovlje saltpans.
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The saltpans...
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Portorož Airport.
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Border crossing Sečovlje (Sicciole) / Plovanija (Plovania) between Slovenia and Croatia. In Croatia you continue on a 2-lane road, number 200, but in just a few kilometers you reach the 2-lane B9 expressway.
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Now let's go back, to Portorož (Portorose). :) We're turning left.
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Welcome to the "Port of Roses".
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Here I turned right, for Ljubljana. As the center of Portorož, with most of its hotels, is in fact straight forward, I regret for already turning right. :(
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This sign perfectly characterizes Slovenian coast - between Italy and Croatia. :)
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Going back onto the G111.
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:cheers:

Thanks Verso!

You really doing a great job mapping Slovenia for those who aren't known there. It makes me think of Spain.

When will Slovenia become a schengen country?

^ At the end of this year. :cheers:

ik copied the pics to the Slovenian (http://forum.autosnelwegen.nl/viewtopic.php?t=1542) topic on the Dutch autosnelwegen forum.

Thanks for the wonderful pics, Verso! :cheers:

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Beautiful :). Nice pics, by the way.

Thanks, guys! :cheers1:

ik copied the pics to the Slovenian (http://forum.autosnelwegen.nl/viewtopic.php?t=1542) topic on the Dutch autosnelwegen forum.Yeah, I've already noticed the Ljubljana-Graz highway there. :D No problem, I'm flattered. ;) At least I don't spend my money for nothing. :)

The A3 highway connects the A1 with the Italian border on route between Ljubljana and Trieste. Its length is 12 km (8 mi) and all of it is motorway. It was completed 10 years ago. I took the pictures 3 days ago.

Interchange Gabrk. If coming from Ljubljana, you don't need to slow down.
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On the A3 (also E61, E70 and Corridor V).
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Ljubljana - Trieste = 3.7 €.
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Just 11 km to Trieste. But what the hell is wrong with my hand? Do I have Parkinson's disease or what??
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About 2 km from here there's border crossing Fernetiči/Fernetti, between Slovenia and Italy. Right after the border you either continue straight forward to Trieste on a 2-lane SS58 road, or turn right, for Venice, onto the RA14 motorway, which after 2 km merges in the RA13 motorway, and that one soon merges in the A4 motorway.
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:cheers:

I.e. you blocked out an entire lane :D That's why I don't understand how that can be a safe system :)


That's very comon... not to have a hard shoulder when you have an additional lane for slow vehicles.
It's that way in Portugal too.... when can see it for example on the steeper slopes of A1, a bit to the north of Torres Novas, or near Leiria.

I have 2 photo's of it, taken on A1, near Leiria:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/Nephasto/DSCN4197.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/Nephasto/DSCN4198.jpg


I hope our slovenian friends don't mind me putting this 2 photo's of the portuguese counterpart of your A1. ;)

I'd never noticed it. That's probably just a way of saving money! IMO motorways should have a hardshoulder all throughout their length in case a car breaks down.

Just 11 km to Trieste. But what the hell is wrong with my hand? Do I have Parkinson's disease, or what??

Your camera just focused on something else, sometimes, that happens, i have it too sometimes. But i still like your pics :)

Yeah, you did an awesome job, Verso! Slovenian highways look mint. I can't wait until I hit European straßen this summer :)

Just to add my $0.02 about the hardshoulder driving. In mountain areas of Oregon and California, trucks with heavy load often drive on the shoulder with hazards on. I don't know if they are required to do so or if it is simply a mere courtesy, but it really makes life easier for passenger cars especially on a 2-lane motorway.

Fantastic photo series...! :cheers:

The Vipava Highway connects the A1 with the Italian border by Nova Gorica / Gorizia. It's 43 km (27 mi) long, of which 14 km is motorway (built mostly in 1996), 18 km 4-lane expressway (built in the last decade) and 10 km is 2-lane road. Its completion is scheduled for the next year. The motorway and expressway technically don't differ (also both are designated as H4), the only difference is that there's often bora wind along the expressway, therefore the speed limit 100 km/h. The motorway has a recommended speed 100 km/h, but it's allowed to drive 130 km/h. I took the photos 3 days ago.

Interchange Nanos (previously called Razdrto). We're turning right, onto the G12.
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Ljubljana - Nanos = 2.7 €.
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The road is very winding and quite deteriorated (not seen on this picture). The future expressway's been under construction for quite some time now, because it's full of viaducts and tunnels.
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Stalking a Montenegrin. :D
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:cheers:
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I miss destination Venice. :)
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Motorway.
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I tried to drive the recommended 100 km/h for a minute - unbearable! :lol:
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Prepare 1.5 €. Altogether Ljubljana - Gorizia = 4.2 €.
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Exit for the border town Nova Gorica.
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1 km ahead there's a border crossing between Slovenia and Italy, called Vrtojba / Sant'Andrea. In Italy you continue on a rather crappy road :D officially designated as RA17 ("RA" stands for "raccordo autostradale" = motorway connection), although it's neither a motorway, nor an expressway; it's a 4-lane road with a speed limit 80 km/h, emergency stops and limited access. But it soon merges in the A4 motorway.
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:cheers:

Haha, total Ljubljana - Nova Gorica is actually €2.7, because nobody actually goes through Bazara, only transit traffic and trucks, everybody else gets off at Vogrsko.. :D

Nice pics!

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What are those thingies(:D) between the central crash barriers?

Those are made so you aren't bothered with headlights of other cars/trucks in the other direction. You see this sometimes in Europe, but i haven't seen it yet in my country.

Why is Údine signed first, and not later nearing the border? They could remove the "Italy" destination and replace it with a normal Italian city (even like Venezia).

The ones saying Italija are older, since that section was built much earlier than the section which has signs saying Udine. You can also see that the one saying Italija doesn't have a road number on it, which is always put on those signs nowadays.

When they'll get changed they'll say Udine and everything.. :)

Haha, total Ljubljana - Nova Gorica is actually €2.7, because nobody actually goes through Bazara, only transit traffic and trucks, everybody else gets off at Vogrsko.. :DHaha, you're right! :D Then I'll just write "Ljubljana - Gorizia". :D Yeah, I remember a sign pointing to Ljubljana in that roundabout in Nova Gorica near your house :P in some other direction than Italy, and I thought, why the hell are they in different directions already in Nova Gorica? :lol:

Btw, edolen, do you remember how the motorway (from 1996) was designated before we got the expressway? I don't think it was H4, I don't think we had these H* designations back then.

It didn't have a designation, it was just a very short section from the border crossing to Šempeter.. I'm not sure of the designation when it was extended to Selo, but when it was extended to Ajdovščina it definitely had H4.. I think with Selo it still didn't have a designation, cuz that was back in the time the A1 was still the A10..

I'd never noticed it. That's probably just a way of saving money! IMO motorways should have a hardshoulder all throughout their length in case a car breaks down.


Well... a standard 3 lane motorway in portugal will have the following measures in width:

inner shoulder + 3 x 3,75m lanes + 3m outer shoulder

If it's a 2 lanes motorway with additional lane for slow traffic its:

inner shoulder + 2 x 3,75m lanes + 3m(or 3,25m... not sure) outer lane for slow vehicles +1m outer shoulder

that are quite wide lanes.

We use 3,5m, but 3,2m is common in Urban areas.

We even have extra lanes which are only 2,5m wide. So that lane is hardly used.
emergency lane = 3m, but that varies from 0 - 5m in some places.

^^Yes... usually the motorway lanes are wide here in Portugal, being of 3,75m.
Only when the base speed of a stretch is under 100km/h or when there is a stretch with much traffic (like a stretch with 4 lanes in each direction) do we use 3,5m.

In Spain for example, they don't use 3,75m, like in the Netherlands... it's 3,5m all the way. And they use 2,5m emergency lanes, which are a bit narrow.


You have 2,5m extra lanes in there?! What for? A truck won't be able to safelly use a 2,5m width lane!

The lanes in Slovenia are 3.75m wide, with the hard shoulder 2.5m wide. Exit lanes are 3m wide, though, and lanes for slow traffic are 3m wide as well.

Sections with a 100 km/h speed limit are 3.5m wide, though.

nice pics!! finally somebody made a photo of Bazara toll plaza, but it dissapointed me totaly, it looks, khm, crapy.:nuts:

You have 2,5m extra lanes in there?! What for? A truck won't be able to safelly use a 2,5m width lane!

Trucks are also no allowed to use those lanes.

They are build as a temporary widening, since all those greenies stop roadimprovement. This 2,5m lane is in the city of Zwolle, i think it is the narrowest lane we have, other extra lanes are wider, and a speed of 100km/h is allowed, but here, only 80 is allowed when the lane is open.

Here are some pics:
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you can see this extra lane (we call it a "plusstrook") it ridiculously narrow, so it is barely used. And the barrier is immediatly adjacent to it.
I didn't solve the traffic jams either.

Well... a standard 3 lane motorway in portugal will have the following measures in width:

inner shoulder + 3 x 3,75m lanes + 3m outer shoulder

If it's a 2 lanes motorway with additional lane for slow traffic its:

inner shoulder + 2 x 3,75m lanes + 3m(or 3,25m... not sure) outer lane for slow vehicles +1m outer shoulder
Yeah you're right, I think I've seen that system in some parts of some motorways like the A24.
In the UK and Ireland the standard lane width is 3.65m and apparently they are reducing it to 3.5m in some motorways, I assume because they want to add more lanes but there's not enough space.

nice pics!! finally somebody made a photo of Bazara toll plaza, but it dissapointed me totaly, it looks, khm, crapy.:nuts:

It's old and only used by transit traffic, so it's a bit small as well..

Are there plans to add a second tube to the Karawankentunnel? (i heard this tunnel has only 1+1 lanes)

The Karawankentunnel has the same problem as Bazara, it only serves transit traffic, so it doesn't have enough traffic to warrant a second tube, so no, there are no plans currently to build a second tube, but in the long run we can expect it IMO, as the traffic to the Balkans will increase more and more in the future due to their economic growth and tourism.. :)

In the UK and Ireland the standard lane width is 3.65m and apparently they are reducing it to 3.5m in some motorways, I assume because they want to add more lanes but there's not enough space.

Well, they aren't going to gain alot of space with that reduction.... only 0.30m for a 2 lane motorway, which is about as good as nothing.
But maybe what that's all about is just metricization... going from 12 feet (3.65m) imperial measure to a metric 3.5m! That's good! :okay:

The Karawankentunnel has the same problem as Bazara, it only serves transit traffic, so it doesn't have enough traffic to warrant a second tube, so no, there are no plans currently to build a second tube, but in the long run we can expect it IMO, as the traffic to the Balkans will increase more and more in the future due to their economic growth and tourism.. :)

Traffic intensities are not the only reason to widen a road. Traffic safety or the economical development of a region are good reasons too.

Indeed, but right now we have "bigger fish to fry", so to say.. Maybe after we're done with the motorway programme it'll get built, but right now it's not a priority..

hey verso nice pictures!

i can help you between sezana - fernetici (- trieste)

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and after the border

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^ Thanks for the remaining part! :D

Here's the 2007 map of motorway construction in Slovenia:

http://www.avtoceste.si/doc/pdf/karta%20NPIA2007.pdf

Enjoy! :)

^^ Great, I'll update the first post.

Verso, could you now show me the motorway lubljana - jesenice as i´ve asked you yesterday.

i'm curious about this Autocesta (is that the right Slovenian word?). :)

^ Haha, you two are annoying (:D), but also flattering ;) hehe.

1. I said "tomorrow" today (a few minutes after midnight) :D
2. I'll only go on Friday, as we got bad weather :( so expect pix around midnight from Friday to Saturday

Oh, well... :)

Btw, Chris, it's "avtocesta", "autocesta" is in Croatian. :) But we pronounce that "v" as "w" in this case. :)

^ Haha, you two are annoying (:D), but also flattering ;) hehe.

1. I said "tomorrow" today (a few minutes after midnight) :D
2. I'll only go on Friday, as we got bad weather :( so expect pix around midnight from Friday to Saturday

Oh, well... :)

Btw, Chris, it's "avtocesta", "autocesta" is in Croatian. :) But we pronounce that "v" as "w" in this case. :)

Ofcourse man, why don´t you have inculded this way in your pics allready, in cirovnica, jesenice and so on there is the best landscape of slowenia, the best i´ve seen of sloevenia at least.

^ Hehe, I wanted to do the A1 first (Ljubljana-Maribor and Ljubljana-Koper, with its branches A3, A5, H4 and H5), and then the A2 (Ljubljana-Jesenice and Ljubljana-Zagreb). :)

^ Haha, you two are annoying (:D), but also flattering ;) hehe.

1. I said "tomorrow" today (a few minutes after midnight) :D
2. I'll only go on Friday, as we got bad weather :( so expect pix around midnight from Friday to Saturday

Oh, well... :)

Btw, Chris, it's "avtocesta", "autocesta" is in Croatian. :) But we pronounce that "v" as "w" in this case. :)

Yeah Chris, in balkanic countries they usually don´t say auto... but avto... avtobus, avtomagistrala ... in bulgaria.

Actually that's completely arbitrary and not connected with the Balkans at all.. Just depends on the language, really.

Actually that's completely arbitrary and not connected with the Balkans at all.. Just depends on the language, really.

that´s what i mean but i couldn´t express me well.

tonight i want see Ljubljana - Jesenice motorway !!! :p

Today we're taking a trip to the mountainous region of Upper Carniola (Gorenjska)! :cheer: This highway links Ljubljana with Austria, in the direction of Germany. Internationally looking it's numbered as E61, and it's also part of the X. Corridor. Its length is 68 km (42 mi), of which 49 km is motorway, 5 km 2-lane expressway, 3 km urban 4-lane road, and 12 km is 2-lane road. It's scheduled for completion in 2010 (excluding a second tube of the Karavanke Tunnel). The motorway between Ljubljana and Kranj was opened in 1985, the one passing by Jesenice in 1993, and the rest in the last decade. The most important object on the highway, the one-tube Karavanke Tunnel (officially designated as A2), connecting Slovenia and Austria, was put in traffic in 1991. I took the photos yesterday.

We're starting in the northwestern part of the Ljubljana Ring, by exit Ljubljana-sever (north), turning right, from the H3 onto G8. Motorway is under construction, it will open next year.Exit for Kranj and Villach, 3 km of 4-lane road with intersections through the city, until you reach motorway.
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Welcome to Ljubljana.
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Road G8.
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We're turning right, heading onto the A2 motorway.
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Tennis courts between the galleries. :)
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Motorway.
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Slovenia is small. :) Just 94 km to Villach, or in Slovenian - Beljak (Glair :lol:).
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The Sava River.
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The last Ljubljana exit.
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1.6 €, please.
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Ljubljana-Brnik Airport.
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Pee, pee! :D
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Recreational area in the woods, hehe.
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Roadworks. Exit for Kranj, and also Brdo, where Bush and Putin met, hehe.
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The first distance sign for Klagenfurt.
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Some barriers...
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Stupid Parkinson's... :no:
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Erm, that lovely creek on the left was trying to be photographed otherwise.
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Exit for Klagenfurt. As you can see, expressway leads there (blue sign), but only for the first 5 km, and it's just 2-laned.
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End of motorway. We're continuing on the 2-lane H1 expressway (if you can call it like that by all the roadworks).
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Radi6404, you can start guessing, what those trees are hiding.
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Motorway under construction.
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The trees were hiding Slovenia's and the Julian Alps' highest mountain, Triglav (2,864 m).
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http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a2gorenjska062za5.jpg

On the G8 again. On the left (you can't see) there's a farm with ostriches, hehe.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a2gorenjska063xt9.jpg

Not counting Ljubljana and tunnels, this is the only traffic light on this highway.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a2gorenjska064vh0.jpg

:cool:
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a2gorenjska066wb0.jpg

More Triglav.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a2gorenjska071su7.jpg

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a2gorenjska072cm2.jpg

Exclusively for radi6404, hehe. Stol/Hochstuhl ((High) Chair :)), the highest mountain in the Karawank Mountains (2,236 m). Its peak is shared by Slovenia and Austria. What a pain in the ass to climb, no greenery!
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a2gorenjska073dm0.jpg

Bled. :)
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a2gorenjska077bm9.jpg

On the A2 again.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a2gorenjska078xe4.jpg

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a2gorenjska080hi7.jpg

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Exit for Jesenice.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a2gorenjska083qf9.jpg

Jesus, this's gotta be the first time in the history of this 14-year-old motorway that the last exit before the border is closed! Now I have to exit, cause I really wouldn't like to pay the tunnel.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a2gorenjska084pr4.jpg

I had to drive through Jesenice and arrived at the Karavanke Plateau. As the Austrian border crossing lies in Slovenia (so there wouldn't come to queues in the tunnel) and as the tunnel is charged, the area around it is fenced.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a2gorenjska085tv9.jpg

My photo of the tunnel.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a2gorenjska088bw7.jpg

But here's a better one. ;) Karavanke Tunnel, the longest road tunnel in Slovenia, measuring 7.864 km (almost 5 mi), of which 3.45 km (44 %) lie in Slovenia and the rest in Austria. Before its opening in 1991, crossing the Karawank Mountains was pretty time-consuming and impossible for trucks (except by train). Also due to the fact that with 120 km (75 mi) they are the longest range in Europe. The tunnel's charged 6.5 €.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/predorkaravankenv5.jpg
Photo: DARS

What I'm doing now is illegal! This is the only physically possible way of driving on the remaining part of the motorway, because the last exit before the border was completely closed. However, this was totally illegal and very suspicious, as I was pottering around border-crossing area. What I do for you ppl, hehe. :) A look at the border crossing Karavanke/Karawankentunnel between Slovenia and Austria. After getting out of the tunnel on the Austrian side you continue on the A11 motorway.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a2gorenjska089mm1.jpg

Now I have to drive in the direction of Ljubljana.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a2gorenjska090ib1.jpg

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a2gorenjska091xc0.jpg

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http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a2gorenjska102sw1.jpg

Here (on the other side, of course) I left the motorway.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a2gorenjska104ko9.jpg

And the last picture.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/Verso1/a2gorenjska105de7.jpg

:cheers:

thanks a lot my friend, i wanted see this way since quite a long time as i am travelling there often but almost always at night.

^ As you probably know (if you've driven there at least once at day, hehe), driving along Jesenice is nicer in the direction of Austria, b/c the valley narrows towards Austria, so it's a kinda better feeling. But, heh, what can you do. :) (btw, I couldn't drive in the other direction even physically, cuz a similar interchange to the one I used, leads you to border crossing for trucks; I wouldn't come well off there, hehe)

^ As you probably know (if you've driven there at least once at day, hehe), driving along Jesenice is nicer in the direction of Austria, b/c the valley narrows towards Austria, so it's a kinda better feeling. But, heh, what can you do. :) (btw, I couldn't drive in the other direction even physically, cuz a similar interchange to the one I used, leads you to border crossing for trucks; I wouldn't come well off there, hehe)


Ofcourse, that´s quite true, it is really impressive to drive there to the direction to Austria seeing how the mountains getting closer and closer, it is really a feeling of fear to travel there. Pictures can´t show how you feel travelling there. In Jesenice the valley is very narrow and looks really amazing but you could not take a photo of it as the last gateway was closed.

it is really a feeling of fear to travel there.So true! That motorway hardly gets any sunshine, plus it's without hard shoulders, only emergency stops.

So true! That motorway hardly gets any sunshine, plus it's without hard shoulders, only emergency stops.

I wish we in bulgaria would have motorways leading through such beautiful mountains but that´s not possible since there is no need for this as bulgaria has not enough mountains like that to force the builders to build there, but it is better for the nature to not have motorways through the narrow valleys.

Beautiful Roads and landscapes. I allways heard that Slovenia was the most devoleped region of the former Yugoslavia. Is the Yugo car factory still working.

Beautiful Roads and landscapes. I allways heard that Slovenia was the most devoleped region of the former Yugoslavia. Is the Yugo car factory still working.Thanks for your kind words, Kikab. Slovenia was actually a republic already in Yugoslavia, so you could've considered it a country, but not independent. The Yugo (Crvena Zastava) is still operating, in Serbia. :) To answer the Alex's question, IMO Yugo is a nicer crap, hehe. :)

Is it the same crap as Lada in Russia? Or it is a better crap?

Great pics Verso! Slovenia is such a beautiful country :)

Great pics Verso! Slovenia is such a beautiful country :)

Indeet.

Wonderful pics!

And thank god those Yugos and Zastavas are quite rare on our streets nowadays! :happy:

Thanks, guys! :) Come on, people, comment or ask sth, I'm running out of highways! :D :(

Have you pictured the road from Ljubljana to Zagreb yet? (A2 or so?)

^ No, not yet; that's why I said I was running out of highways, I haven't exactly run out of them yet. :D (but that's also the only one left:()

you could go and take a friend with you to make good shots of the liubljana jesenice motorway as the pics are a bit blurry. I hope i will travel through Slovenia when it´s day so that i can make shots there myself, really great country. and you, have you ever visited bulgaria?

^ I've only seen it from air, hehe. :) I remember two motorways, getting together, ending up in Sofia. :) But I couldn't exactly see Sofia, it was on the edge of my sight. :)

^ I've only seen it from air, hehe. :) I remember two motorways, getting together, ending up in Sofia. :) But I couldn't exactly see Sofia, it was on the edge of my sight. :)

it´s a shame you were not in bulgaria, you know so much about bulgaria but were never there phisically.

^ Hehe, there's still time! :) I actually wouldn't have seen it even from air, if NATO wasn't bombing Serbia, but this way we had to do a detour via Bulgaria, Romania and Hungary (we went from Ljubljana to Samos (Greece), in 1999).

^ Hehe, there's still time! :) I actually wouldn't have seen it even from air, if NATO wasn't bombing Serbia, but this way we had to do a detour via Bulgaria, Romania and Hungary (we went from Ljubljana to Samos (Greece), in 1999).

I hope you will visit bugaria some day, i will visit slovenia and i travelled through it quite a lot of times.

Beautiful photos Verso:okay: :cheers:

Let's drive on A2 from Slovenian/Croatian border at Obrežje/Bregana to Ljubljana. For me, the most beautiful motorway in Slovenia. :cheers:
(about 8 MB of pictures altogether)

Let's say you come from far east and you drove hundreds of km on flat Panonian plain. Coming from Croatian motorway A3, you'll enter Slovenia at border crossing Obrežje/Bregana (I took photo from side)
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-01.jpg

Now lets continue to west (east goes to Zagreb).
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-02.jpg

First there is a petrol station and Obrežje junction. Mokrice castle on left side.
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-03.jpg

Then first hills begin.
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-04.jpg

Between hills and Sava river is very narrow.
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-05.jpg

Approaching Brežice junction.
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-06.jpg

Čatež ob Savi and gallery right after junction.
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-07.jpg

Not very nice, but ok (105 m long).
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-08.jpg

On the top of the (not very high) hill there is a petrol station and resting place.
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-09.jpg

Again down, over Krka river bridge to plains.
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-10.jpg

Boring driving, virtually no traffic.
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-11.jpg

Water on the road? No, just too much heat.
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-12.jpg

If we look back, we came from that hills, left side of them.
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-12a.jpg

From the motorway you can see Krško nuclear plant.
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-13.jpg

Krško junction.
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-14.jpg

Taking right lane ...
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-15.jpg

ABC means in free translation "Automatic cash less tolling".
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-16.jpg

"Freie fahrt" (for 1,80 €).
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-17.jpg

Entering Krakovski forest.
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-18.jpg

It has big population of oak trees and it is quite swampy. Motorway has here lots of small bridges and culverts.
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-19.jpg

Resting place Zaloke.
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-20.jpg

Raka junction, low traffic.
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-21.jpg

Back into the forest, but hills are approaching.
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-22.jpg

Dobruška vas junction.
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-23.jpg

Plains are closing, hills announce end to boring driving.
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-24.jpg

At Bela Cerkev village ("White church")
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-25.jpg

Hey, what the heck ...
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-26.jpg

It's the end ...
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-27.jpg

No worry, construction of new motorway is in progress (due to finish by the summer of 2008)
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-28.jpg

New viaduct.
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-29.jpg

Now we drive on H1, almost 50 years old.
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-30.jpg

Otočec junction, traffic is increasing.
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-31.jpg

Here petrol station, hotel, casino, castle and famous "Šoferska" restaurant. :cheers:
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-32.jpg

Approaching again to motorway construction site.
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-33.jpg

That pavement is really really bad :ohno:
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-34.jpg

Okey!
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-35.jpg

Mačkovec viaduct (353 m).
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-36.jpg

Going uphill, bypassing Novo mesto, largest town in Dolenjska region.
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-37.jpg

First covered cutting, road crosses motorway, also second Novo mesto junction (only two km from first one)
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-38.jpg

Yes, some roadworks. (this section of motorway was opened one year ago, but they left final layer of asphalt to be installed for this year because of difficult geology, which caused original asphalt to displace for 3 cm in one year)
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-39.jpg

Longest covered cutting in Slovenia (I'm not sure, if gallery is right term), old road went on the top of it (can be seen on right side) - 290 m long
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-40.jpg

Inside ...
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-41.jpg

Other side.
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-42.jpg

Going down, village in front is Karteljevo (Karteljevo ascent caused much trouble on old road before motorway was built)
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-43.jpg

Motorway here has grade separated lanes.
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-44.jpg

Looking back ...
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-45.jpg

Nice view.
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-46.jpg

Oh no, not again!
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-47.jpg

And even this, "Dangerous section". This highway has been dubbed "Road of death" already decades ago. Last big accident occurred two years ago, when eight people died in a crash.
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-48.jpg

OK, not far away ...
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-49.jpg

On left hill, where forest is cut, new motorway will go. Construction should start in autumn.
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-50.jpg

I think construction should start very soon.
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-51.jpg

Scenic road.
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-52.jpg

Top of Poljanski ascent. Where are all those flat plains already?
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-53.jpg

Ah, here are some. :lol:
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-54.jpg

Aproaching Trebnje ...
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-55.jpg

... junction
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-56.jpg

(next photos were taken the next day, so don't be surprised of weather change)
Also with petrol station and motel. New motorway will go on left hill, up to 70 m above valley.
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-57.jpg

Yes, very "useful" information :lol:
Left of this village on the hill a new 400 m long tunnel will be built.
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-58.jpg

Ah, yes, those 14 km of H1 are ending.
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-59.jpg

Motorway to the end of the journey.
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-60.jpg

Covered cutting for many animals to go over motorway.
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-61.jpg

Climbing Medvedjek ascent. It looked like this 30 years ago ...
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-62.jpg

Now it is more modern, first covered cutting (165 m) ...
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-63.jpg

... and second (98 m).
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-64.jpg

Bič junction.
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-65.jpg

In reality there is only 30 km to Ljubljana.
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-66.jpg

Time to pay 1,70 € ...
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-67.jpg

Hm, I think I need to put some money on my prepayment account :soon:
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-68.jpg

Continuing to Ljubljana (right is railway line).
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-69.jpg

Ivančna Gorica junction, usually with lots of traffic.
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-70.jpg

More and more hills.
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-71.jpg

This petrol station and resting place is only one sided.
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-72.jpg

Višnja Gora junction
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-73.jpg

On the other side of that wall there is a cemetery. When they were building this motorway 20 years ago, some coffins fell onto construction place :nuts:
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-74.jpg

Climbing on last and longest ascent.
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-75.jpg

Ljubljana is close ...
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-76.jpg

Hey wait, where ...
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-77.jpg

... is other lane?
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-78.jpg

Ah, there is (far away).
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-79.jpg

In 1989 old road was converted to motorway for one direction without any reconstruction. So did old road look before 1989:
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-79a.jpg

Ad so it looks today:
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-80.jpg
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-81.jpg
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-83.jpg
narrow, curvy, with 100 km/h speed restriction
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-82.jpg
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-84.jpg
old objects remained (they are 50 years old)
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-85.jpg
probably most dangerous curve there
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-86.jpg
and steep descent. Complete reconstruction is planned after 2010. New route will probably follow new half of motorway, shown previously.
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-87.jpg

Continuing now to Ljubljana, here's first Grosuplje junction.
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-88.jpg

Hm, those clouds are getting thicker.
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-89.jpg

Second Grosuplje junction.
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-90.jpg

And right after that, third junction (it leads traffic in one direction only - to and from Škofljica).
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-91.jpg

Ljubljana now only 6 km away.
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-92.jpg

First real tunnel on our journey (400 m long).
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-93.jpg
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-94.jpg

Right after the tunnel there is 610 m long viaduct Reber, here seen with weather station installed - on the end there is a radar box.
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-95.jpg

Deepest cutting on A2, up to 60 m deep (tunnel was planned here, but rocky material was very good and they decided to use it for construction).
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-96.jpg

Aproaching Malence intersection with A1. Wow, clouds are preparing for something :devil:
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-97.jpg

Right to Graz, Maribor and easteren Ljubljana, left to Trieste, Venezia, Koper, Villach and south and west Ljubljana, also another tunnel (355 m).
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-98.jpg

Intersection Malence is placed on very small space ...
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-99.jpg
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-100.jpg

... and includes also Ljubljana-south junction.
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-101.jpg

Here A1 connects from Maribor/Graz direction.
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-102.jpg

And so A1 and A2 continue together on south Ljubljana bypass ... (to see more A2 towards Austrian border, look at message #180)
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-103.jpg

And then storm began ... :cheer:

Super!

By the way, I love how some Slovenian town names are very odd, like Bič (pronounced Bitch, means Whip :lol:) or Ptuj (pronounced Ptooie, reminds anyone of spitting?)..

Heh, I also see that the A2 needs some serious renovating.. And the H1.. horrendous! Looks like it's in Moldova, not in the developed world, heh.. :ohno:

thanks for pics man, pics are clear and not blurry, motorways are not bad til very good except the section with awful aspalt. Good work man.

Thanks! I think this was the last section not pictured yet?

^^Aww damn.. :(

great pics!!

motorway looks great! i dodn't know that it won't folloe H1 all the way! i just cannot get used to often exits (here in Croatia they are more rare).
i'll be good and won't comment H1 :D i just can say that it's better to watch then to drive on it :D
and the south lane around that hill - it looks quite unsafe. i know it follows old road and curves are quite strong. i didn't know that there is no emergency lane yet! they should put concrete barriers to both sides all the way!
the best thing - a lot of service areas! well done!

Very excellent highways of Slovelia :banana:

I want to see the highways penetrating through central Ljubljana :)

Great journey with commentary, thanks :applause:

Cool scenary.

Offtopic: Hey Verso, when the new Struma motorway will pass through Dupnica, it will be similar to Jesenica as in Dupnica there are also high mountains very close and it allready looks similar to Jesenice.

I think you should change your nick to "Struma addict" :lol: ;)

Well, Chris, I think that's understandable :) . We South-Eastern EU citizens have so few motorways and it's easy to get over-excited when we build a new one! Our respective governments are also "contributing" to our excitement by moving at snail's pace and making a normal thing like building a motorway over here look similar to constructing the 7 Great Wonders.

Here in Romania we will also get a similar brand-new motorway through the mountains, with plenty of tunnels and bridges. It will cross the beautiful Prahova Valley, underneath the steep Bucegi Mountains, and is badly needed for touristic purposes, but judging from the incompetence at the higher levels, it won't be finished anytime soon unfortunately...:ohno:

Anyway, back on topic: are there any plans for a motorway or fast road from Postojna towards Rijeka? Because I was very surprised to travel on a normal 2-lane road in the rich Slovenia and then switch to a newly-built shiny motorway after the border at Rupa, in poorer Croatia.

slovenia isn´t that developed with motorways man, i remember times where the roads where realy awful, there were a few kilometers motoorway in the whole route Jesenice - croatian border. I was wondering but now almost everything is motorway.

Well, Chris, I think that's understandable :) . We South-Eastern EU citizens have so few motorways and it's easy to get over-excited when we build a new one! Our respective governments are also "contributing" to our excitement by moving at snail's pace and making a normal thing like building a motorway over here look similar to constructing the 7 Great Wonders.

Here in Romania we will also get a similar brand-new motorway through the mountains, with plenty of tunnels and bridges. It will cross the beautiful Prahova Valley, underneath the steep Bucegi Mountains, and is badly needed for touristic purposes, but judging from the incompetence at the higher levels, it won't be finished anytime soon unfortunately...:ohno:

Anyway, back on topic: are there any plans for a motorway or fast road from Postojna towards Rijeka? Because I was very surprised to travel on a normal 2-lane road in the rich Slovenia and then switch to a newly-built shiny motorway after the border at Rupa, in poorer Croatia.

It´s fucking sad that the corrupted whoresons do nothing, why does EU not control those whroesons that they finally really start building motorways and new railways not only on one or two places but in our whole countries so that finally there is work. I remember Hungary building very good motorways 1997 - 1998, they worked like hell there, building and building the motorway and in Bulgaria just now something happens, in 1998 there were probably 300 km motorway and that was all, fucking imbeciles and the railways still suck big time. For what do we have the streettaxes? I really can´t understand for what we have strettaxes for such roads, now they started to improve in bulgaria but it´s far from enough, fucking whoresons. they also work way too slow, i can´t think of something that really could make them finally speed up the construction. and i don´t know at all why some idiots who want protect environment protest because of building motorway, they should protest for other things but not a motorway, the cars on a motorway don´t need as much benzin as on landroads where they have to stop for trafficlights etc.

Anyway, back on topic: are there any plans for a motorway or fast road from Postojna towards Rijeka? Because I was very surprised to travel on a normal 2-lane road in the rich Slovenia and then switch to a newly-built shiny motorway after the border at Rupa, in poorer Croatia.

Croatia only had a couple of kilometres to Slovenia, the situation is a bit different here, we don't even know where to start the motorway yet, there are several variants being considered at the moment. Anyway, an urbanist study is in the works.

Besides, there's not that much traffic there outside of the summer months, there are much more critical roads around Slovenia.

Besides, there's not that much traffic there outside of the summer months

Traffic amounts are not the only reason to build a Avtocesta. (right word?) You can pick traffic safety, economic development and freight traffic too. Rijeka might be an important harbor Slovenia (i don't know for sure)?

Traffic amounts are not the only reason to build a Avtocesta. (right word?) You can pick traffic safety, economic development and freight traffic too. Rijeka might be an important harbor Slovenia (i don't know for sure)?

I guess Rijeka, located in Croatia, wouldn't be such an important port for Slovenia, and it's also outside EU borders at the moment. Koper is the main port as far as I know (probably also Trieste, just across the border in Italy). Still, an Avtocesta would be good for developing the southern parts and connecting with the (Croatian) Adriatic coast. Not to mention the fact that Croatia is way more developed then EU members Romania and Bulgaria, so it will probably join sooner than anyone thinks.

Right, but the problem is we have a lot of roads where there is a lot of traffic year-round and are only two-laned and those just have the priority at the moment. I do agree however that it should become a motorway soon.

Oh, and Slovenia has its own port, Koper.

Oh, and Slovenia has its own port, Koper. Okay, i know that, but i didn't know if that port has any importance. Rijeka might have been a transit port for Slovenia and further away. Like Rotterdam or Antwerp is for Germany.

Nah, Koper is the main port for Slovenia, because of infrastructure and political reasons. It's bigger than the one in Rijeka, AFAIK..

Anyway, that motorway should be built ASAP. But what are the priority roads in Slovenia that have to be built, apart from the one to Hungary? Everything else is already built (some small parts missing on the A2). It's more political, i would say...

Fantastic thread.Generally SLO roads and highways looks amazing.Only if u could speed up a pace ;)

Anyway, that motorway should be built ASAP. But what are the priority roads in Slovenia that have to be built, apart from the one to Hungary? Everything else is already built (some small parts missing on the A2). It's more political, i would say...

It is political display no question about that.:ohno:

Priorities:
1 - to complete whole "motorway cross" - should be next year
2 - additional motorway program, but main priorities will probably go to linking Maribor to Gruškovje and new/additional expressway on the coast to Istria. and expressway from Celje to Austria.
3 - some new highways on third-A and fourth development axis. Expressway from Austria (at Dravograd or Mežica) to Croatia at Metlika (third development axis) will be built in full length, but not soon. It will be probably one of the most costliest roads in Slovenia.

Current traffic data (http://www.dc.gov.si/fileadmin/dc.gov.si/pageuploads/Stetje_prometa/Stetje_2006.xls) (look line no. 126) does not justify building even a two-laned expressway from Rupa to Italy. Few bypasses and modernising some other sections should suffice for quite a long time. Sorry, but many other roads in Slovenia have higher priorities and more importantly much more traffic. Heck, many roads, which have a lot more traffic than let say Rupa - Kozina main road, won't see expressway nor motorway built anytime in the future. If ever.

Nice graphical view of traffic data for 2005
(http://www.dc.gov.si/fileadmin/dc.gov.si/pageuploads/Stetje_prometa/Promet05.pdf). Now you see, why some connections to Croatia will wait for some time.

Well according to that map you can see that MB-ZG should have higher priority than MB-Hungary, if we look at the traffic... So... :(

And I don't understand that nobody's thinking about the future, bc when Croatia joins the EU once, these figures will surely change, especially in freight traffic.

So just to be clear, I respect Slovenia's priorities and wills and it's Slo's right that nobody can change, but nobody can assure me (or 90% of HR) that ignoring road connections to Croatia isn't political...

Nice graphical view of traffic data for 2005
(http://www.dc.gov.si/fileadmin/dc.gov.si/pageuploads/Stetje_prometa/Promet05.pdf). Now you see, why some connections to Croatia will wait for some time.

Your motorways are so quiet! Nice driving on them, i think there are few traffic jams, even on the Ljubljana ringroad?

Your busiest urban motorway is like our rural motorways :lol:
However our bordercrossings are quiet too. Mostly freight traffic.

Well according to that map you can see that MB-ZG should have higher priority than MB-Hungary, if we look at the traffic... So... :(

Yes, but if you look numbers in xls spreadsheet, you'll find, that MB-Hungary has daily 3000 trucks or more. To Gruškovje only 1000. And this is for 2006. Some days MB-Hungary sees more than 5000 trucks daily and this number is increasing very rapidly (in second half of 2004 it rose up to 60%). That's why construction of motorway is speeding up, trucks are the only reason. Few years ago number of trucks was similar to that of Gruškovje / Macelj border crossing and motorway was planned to be completed in 2013. Now they want to complete it 5 years earlier, because situation on main road is becoming critical.

And I don't understand that nobody's thinking about the future, bc when Croatia joins the EU once, these figures will surely change, especially in freight traffic.Sure, that's because A2 is being completed next year, and construction of A4 to MB-Gruškovje will start in next weeks. It's not so black as it seems.

So just to be clear, I respect Slovenia's priorities and wills and it's Slo's right that nobody can change, but nobody can assure me (or 90% of HR) that ignoring road connections to Croatia isn't political...You may want to think so, but I very much doubt, that 5000 daily traffic, including 400 truck justifies building brand new motorway, while some parts of Slovenia have traffic of triple or even quadruple of those numbers and won't have motorway or at least expressway for a foreseeable future.

This April was the first month that saw 100,000 trucks on the main road through Prekmurje. That's an incredible growth, and even with the huge growth taken into account, it was only expected it would reach such a number by the end of 2007. And this is something the locals have to put up with daily, while the road to Gruškovje is only a real traffic jam two months per year. However the section between Ptuj and Maribor is a different story due to daily commuters, and that section will be completed in 2009.

I know it's nice to think it's all political, but I really see no reason why it would be. The Trieste-Rijeka motorway wouldn't serve the Port of Rijeka much, as the main markets for Koper and Rijeka are Central and Eastern Europe, while any envy because of tourism is just ridicolous, tourism does not represent such an important factor in our economy to justify such stupid behaviour.

I do agree however that in the future it will become an important corridor, especially with the economic development further south in the Balkans, but that will not happen for a few years to come. Oh, and on a side note, when will the motorway from Rijeka down to Senj be built?

Great pix, keber! I was gonna do the A2 motorway (LJ-ZG) as well, but then my hard disc was destroyed! :bash: :gunz: :wallbash: :mad: :mad2: :evil: :ohno: :rant:


Anyway, I'll still take photos of it, but in the other direction. :D

Nice route: Ljubljana - Zagreb - Maribor - Ljubljana. See some motorways in the other direction, and i'm not sure if i seen pics of the Croatian A2 Zagreb - Slovenia yet.

Make sure you go and see the new Puch Bridge, if you do!

Nah, Koper is the main port for Slovenia, because of infrastructure and political reasons. It's bigger than the one in Rijeka, AFAIK..hehehehe that isn't true!!!!:nuts: :lol:
port of Rijeka IS bigger, deeper, has more capacity ofcourse....i mean...don't I have to count it for you? Rijeka: ( Mlaka-Baroš-Delta-Brajdica ) -Bakar-Brščica-Raša-Dina-Omišalj-future expansions at Zagrebacka Obala, Brajdica amd LNG terminal probably in Omisalj. Koper will never be able to even physically reach that.

^ Koper has more traffic.

There is nothin wrong if they compete a little ;) now....
Cos traffic through Port Rijeka is rising every month, that is why port needs to be expanded, amd why new double track railway towards Budapest and Wienna will soon be under construction, money for that has been secured.

Could someone tell me why on the picture below Višnja Gora is put above Žužemberk and Krka even though it is closer than the latter two?

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-66.jpg

P.S. Out of curiosity, Višnja Gora translates as Cherry Mountain or Tall Mountain?

and i'm not sure if i seen pics of the Croatian A2 Zagreb - Slovenia yet.

I think x-type has some plans to change that ;)

P.S. Out of curiosity, Višnja Gora translates as Cherry Mountain or Tall Mountain?

Cherry :)

[off topic]
In Poland and Czechoslovakia (old habits die hard) I could understand ~80% of written text and only 20% of speech. Never been to former Yugoslavia though, but I am wondering how different Slovenian and Croatian dialects are?

^^ If you're having in mind the Slovenian and Croatian LANGUAGES, we understand each other. ;)

Could someone tell me why on the picture below Višnja Gora is put above Žužemberk and Krka even though it is closer than the latter two?

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-66.jpgIf you've noticed this on previous photos, such "messy" signs with distances are very common in Slovenia. The thing is that Žužemberk and Krka are in different directions (not here yet, of course) than Višnja Gora (and Ljubljana). I'm not sure if you know where Žužemberk and Krka are, but look at some bigger towns on previous photos, and if they aren't really situated close to the highway we're driving on, they will be listed kinda separately from others, but one by another, that's why also this "mess". You see this often in Germany and elsewhere, "just" that there would be a line drawn between them, so it doesn't look so messy. And possibly also different road numbers written.

Maybe the lower three destination exit earlier than Ljubljana. However, i think that there are too many small towns on the distance signs. The rest of signage is good though.

very interesting and some amazing photos from the photographers,i liked the Slovenian highways...it's so nice and cool to see other parts of Europe from a passenger's seat:cheers:

Could someone tell me why on the picture below Višnja Gora is put above Žužemberk and Krka even though it is closer than the latter two?

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-66.jpg

P.S. Out of curiosity, Višnja Gora translates as Cherry Mountain or Tall Mountain?

Distance signs are very messy in Slovenia. :ohno:
Example:
This section:
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-12a.jpg (http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-12a.jpg)
and this section (about 2 km west from previous picture)
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-18.jpg (http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z202/keber1/A2-18.jpg)
is actually the same and was opened same time, built by the same company. They lead to different direction, hovewer you can clearly see the difference on both signs. I don't know the cause for this, but there are no clear standards for signs in Slovenia. Designers do more or less themselves, what they think it should be. Even motorway interchanges are usually labeled only 1000 m before actual interchange, that is only 30 before deciding next destination.

There was somehow famous sign on interchange Gabrk (A1 and A3), where main destination was labeled to go to Koper, Portorož and Škocjan. Škocjan is a village of about 10 people. There were jokes in newspapers, that we have the smallest village on the world to be put on motorway interchange destination sign. :lol: Later they removed Škocjan.

Maybe this is connected to typical Slovenian smallness, so we have to do everything to look big and very important.

^^ Even fonts are different. :doh: And if you haven't noticed, E-road numbers on signs in Slovenia are a complete mess! On Ljubljana-Maribor motorway (E57) you also see E58 and E85. :nuts: Or E61 where it isn't at all (the southern Ljubljana bypass), or E571 instead of E751. :doh: Just check my photos, and you'll see. P.S.: I even noticed "A10" on one of new signs! :lol:

guys don't worry these are details,easily fixed,fact is you have nice,clean modern highways,you can change the signs overnight.oh and btw of course stuff like these are in Greece too

^^ Even fonts are different. :doh: And if you haven't noticed, E-road numbers on signs in Slovenia are a complete mess! On Ljubljana-Maribor motorway (E57) you also see E58 and E85. :nuts: Or E61 where it isn't at all (the southern Ljubljana bypass), or E571 instead of E751. :doh: Just check my photos, and you'll see. P.S.: I even noticed "A10" on one of new signs! :lol:

Not only the signs, try looking at maps by international cartographers.. I doubt I've ever seen them getting the road numbers right. Some even have the numbers as they were 15+ years ago..

I did some editing to show how I would design that sign ;)

http://mikul.net/images/motorways/slovenia.jpg

lovely highways, what's the speed limit like.

I did some editing to show how I would design that sign ;)

http://mikul.net/images/motorways/slovenia.jpg

That would look very nice (apart from road number, which should be in yellow/black combination). But already some clear design standards on all distance signs would suffice. Authorities will need to do something about that.

Yeah, I like that design very much (except for the color, yes; btw, in Slovenia red-colored road signs depict local roads (this one is regional), but you rarely see it). I'd only put Ivančna Gorica at the bottom, it's close to the A2, but it's also where you go off for Žužemberk and Krka, so I'd more like it to be at the bottom, as those 7 km is the smallest distance of all.

lovely highways, what's the speed limit like.Thanks; the speed limit on motorways is 130 km/h (80 mph), expressways 100 km/h (62 mph), 'ordinary' roads outside built-up areas 90 km/h (55 mph), and inside built-up areas the general speed limit is 50 km/h (31 mph).

Hi Verso, you aren´t much arround last time, isn´t it?

Yeah, plus I'd erase Krka from the distance sign, it's just too small of a village to have it. I'd rather add Litija or something. :)