^^so u mean people from kalyan to bhiwandi for work? I think bhiwandi has almost all warehouses only nothing much....may be there but I dont know...

^
handlooms......they into small scale textile buisness

i don't understand why there HAS to be a race course in the heart of the city. it should be moved to navi mumbai and the land should be used to make something that more people can enjoy like a mini theme park or a museum, mall, or theater.

More malls and theaters - I just cannot see why you need more of that...an amusement park is good, but there isn't enough space for tht. Although I agree that thd club and the races are not enjoyment for most citizens, there is a lot going on there in terms of activities when races are not held. If you walk in there during the mornings then you'd see Tai-chi sessions. And I'd think this city could definitely do with far more greenspaces/sports venues.

^^so u mean people from kalyan to bhiwandi for work? I think bhiwandi has almost all warehouses only nothing much....may be there but I dont know...

^^ People working in the textile mills live in areas like Murbad , Shahad , Ulhasnagar , Kolsewadi , areas . Also people traveling from these places to Vajreshwari make Bhiwandi a very busy transit place. Also people living in Bhiwandi work NRC in Ambivali and Century Rayaon in Shahad and other industries in MIDC in this area.

Is it somewhere in ghatkopar on golibar road just before it hits LBS marg ?

Yeah I think so

Found this render for one of the stations but the site doesn't say which.
http://blog.propertynice.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/mumbai_metro.gif

^^ Think thats WEH station. In any case, I don't think Mumbai metro website has comprehensive info on renders of differnet stations...actually the website does not have anything new at all...annoying

Its a cool station.

TOI (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/mumbai/Metro-may-merge-with-suburban-rail-network/articleshow/6284368.cms)

Metro may merge with suburban rail network

Mumbai: The Metro and suburban railway network (elevated corridor) may be merged between Mahalaxmi and Churchgate stations. If that happens, Mumbai will become the first city in the country to boast of such a merger.

Senior officials of the Western Railway (WR) told TOI that they were looking at four options as there is no space for the proposed Churchgate-Virar elevated rail corridor after Mahalaxmi. One of the options being looked into is the termination of the corridor at Mahalaxmi station itself. Another way to fix the problem would be to connect the elevated corridor to the Metro line between Mahalaxmi and Churchgate stations. Officials are also looking at constructing the elevated corridor via Lamington Road and terminating it at Aaykar Bhavan (income tax building). Acquisition of land to allow the corridor to pass is also being considered.

Chief administrative officer (construction) Subodh Jain told TOI that two of the four options-acquisition of land and construction of the elevated corridor via Lamington Road up to Aaykar Bhavan-have slim chances of materialising. "Acquiring land in south Mumbai is a problem as most of the buildings are occupied by tenants. Both these options are not feasible," Jain said.

"We would need just 8-10 m on the east side between Grant Road and Charni Road stations, but that would be next to impossible," he said.

Jain said that a more feasible option would be to terminate the elevated corridor at Mahalaxmi. "But transport experts aren't very keen on this option as they want seamless travel. Also, if people come out on to the road, there will be congestion at Mahalaxmi," Jain said.

So that leaves only the merger option. If the elevated corridor is connected to the Metro planned between Regal Cinema and Bandra, then commuters would have to switch over.

"The Mumbai Metropolitan Region Development Authority (MMRDA), which is implementing the Metro project, and the state government have consented to our plan to connect the suburban railway network with Metro," said Jain. "However, this option would be very expensive and commuters would have to change trains. This may push them to cab the distance," he added.

Jain said that they need to finalise the plan by December, following which it would be sent to the railway board (RB) for approval. and send it to the Railway Board.

Meanwhile, the section between Santa Cruz and Andheri will be on surface. "A month ago, the stake holders, in principle, agreed to rehabilitate people in some sections as WR has land on the east side," said Jain.

SOURCE (http://www.dnaindia.com/mumbai/report_metro-iii-may-have-car-depot-under-race-course_1421699)
Metro-III may have car depot under race course

The city’s third metro line by the Mumbai Metropolitan Region Development Authority (MMRDA), which is to come up between Colaba and Bandra, will in all likelihood have an underground car depot in the middle of its alignment. The plan is to construct a car depot under the stables of Mahalaxmi Race Course.

As per the detailed project report of the alignment, which has been prepared by the Delhi Metro Rail Corporation (DMRC), the initial plan was to construct a car depot at Colaba. “We had identified certain spots in Colaba where we could construct a car depot.

They included slum areas of Ganesh Murti Nagar and Ambedkar Nagar. But, our consultants Louis Berger suggested that land acquisition in the densely populated Colaba area would be a difficult proposition. The slums have about 5,000 occupants and most of them would have asked for rehabilitation,” said MMRDA metropolitan commissioner Ratnakar Gaikwad. “Since there is no provision for extra FSI in the area, such rehabilitation would have been very expensive for the authority. Hence, the plan has now been dropped.”

According to Gaikwad, as Colaba falls under the CRZ regulations, developing a car depot there would have been a tedious process. “The spots which were finalised by DMRC also needed some portion of the sea to be reclaimed. Since the CRZ norms are very stringent, the idea was dropped by the authority,” added Gaikwad.

About Mahalaxmi Race Course being used for setting up an underground car depot, Gaikwad said the authority was contemplating on a plan to construct the underground option causing minimum obstruction to the race course.

“Our consultants have suggested that technically, the method of cut and curve tunnels will be the best possible way to construct the underground car depot at the Mahalaxmi Race Course. The cut and curve technique does not require surface portion of the soil to be excavated. It will definitely ensure smooth functioning of the race course even during construction. Moreover, there will not be any dislocation of stables, which occupy the portion towards the Mahalaxmi station-end of the race course,” said Gaikwad.

+1
I hope BMC does not throw up too much of a fuss to allow the car sheds to be built...

TOI (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/mumbai/Metro-may-merge-with-suburban-rail-network/articleshow/6284368.cms)

Metro may merge with suburban rail network

Mumbai: The Metro and suburban railway network (elevated corridor) may be merged between Mahalaxmi and Churchgate stations. If that happens, Mumbai will become the first city in the country to boast of such a merger.

Meanwhile, the section between Santa Cruz and Andheri will be on surface. "A month ago, the stake holders, in principle, agreed to rehabilitate people in some sections as WR has land on the east side," said Jain.


I didn't quite understand what Railways are trying to do. What will the elevated track be used for again. Running AC trains ? The Elevated Virar-Churchgate corridor was announced on the spur of the moment by Lalu. Railyways really need to sit down with MMRDa to co-ordinate their routes with the Colaba - Bandra and Bandra - Charkop metro lines...and should not delay MMRDA further in the process....

SOURCE (http://www.dnaindia.com/mumbai/report_metro-iii-may-have-car-depot-under-race-course_1421699)
Metro-III may have car depot under race course

The city’s third metro line by the Mumbai Metropolitan Region Development Authority (MMRDA), which is to come up between Colaba and Bandra, will in all likelihood have an underground car depot in the middle of its alignment. The plan is to construct a car depot under the stables of Mahalaxmi Race Course.

As per the detailed project report of the alignment, which has been prepared by the Delhi Metro Rail Corporation (DMRC), the initial plan was to construct a car depot at Colaba. “We had identified certain spots in Colaba where we could construct a car depot.

They included slum areas of Ganesh Murti Nagar and Ambedkar Nagar. But, our consultants Louis Berger suggested that land acquisition in the densely populated Colaba area would be a difficult proposition. The slums have about 5,000 occupants and most of them would have asked for rehabilitation,” said MMRDA metropolitan commissioner Ratnakar Gaikwad. “Since there is no provision for extra FSI in the area, such rehabilitation would have been very expensive for the authority. Hence, the plan has now been dropped.”

According to Gaikwad, as Colaba falls under the CRZ regulations, developing a car depot there would have been a tedious process. “The spots which were finalised by DMRC also needed some portion of the sea to be reclaimed. Since the CRZ norms are very stringent, the idea was dropped by the authority,” added Gaikwad.

About Mahalaxmi Race Course being used for setting up an underground car depot, Gaikwad said the authority was contemplating on a plan to construct the underground option causing minimum obstruction to the race course.

“Our consultants have suggested that technically, the method of cut and curve tunnels will be the best possible way to construct the underground car depot at the Mahalaxmi Race Course. The cut and curve technique does not require surface portion of the soil to be excavated. It will definitely ensure smooth functioning of the race course even during construction. Moreover, there will not be any dislocation of stables, which occupy the portion towards the Mahalaxmi station-end of the race course,” said Gaikwad.

What the hell is cut and curve :bash: These idiots really need to stop embarrassing themselves.

delete

TOI (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/mumbai/Metro-may-merge-with-suburban-rail-network/articleshow/6284368.cms)

Metro may merge with suburban rail network

Definitely a good idea. But its only when it "will happen". Till then it will be on papers... uh.. the Internet.

why doesnt IR simply die?

just make it privatize, just remove from IR umbrella. well its not gonna happens... major chunk of revenue come from Mumbai, btw does anybody has statics about how much mumbai suburban contributes to IR?

TOI (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/mumbai/Metro-may-merge-with-suburban-rail-network/articleshow/6284368.cms)

Metro may merge with suburban rail network



This WR official needs to be sacked. :mad2:

When this person s**t this idea from mouth or whereever, did he think about the guage issue? IR is not even budging an inch from the broad guage (worst ever idea for rapid transport system).

Mumbai metro uses standard guage. So do they mean that IR will switch to standard guage for the elevated corridor?

Or do they want to screw the metro more by pushing metro to use broad guage for that route? (already IR has royally screwed it over the issue of bridge over Andheri station)

Delhi metro has already committed this mistake. They started off with broad guage for Line 1 and now rest of the lines are standard guage. So do they want to repeat same mistake here?

Or is it that this 'intellegent' person is proposing dual guage system for that stretch?

What about scheduling? I guess everyone has heard about the fight over 'landing' and 'take off' slots at airports. So I guess, rather am sure, we would be seeing the same on the merged corridor.

What about the accountability if one service delays the other due to issues such as rake breakdown, derailment, signal failures, strikes - which are 1. typical of IR and 2. would be inevitable because each service provider would have its own infrastructure on the common stretch.

I think its high time that people of Mumbai put the s**t back into the place from where it originated.

No one can save Mumbai, India and Indians from these crappy politicians.

The IR / CR / WR could not do anything till now for Mumbai city. And now all of a sudden they are having these ideas, mostly because they see revenue diversion. Secondly these ideas are primarily of the purpose of blocking right of way. These are bunch of ROW hoarders nothing more.

Sell off IR break it down into different companies as it happened in Japan. Set up the competition.

aren't the locals a loss making operation? IR should be happy to give mumbai railways freedom.

i think with government disinvesting in major PSU`s it should now start disinvesting in IR(certain parts), i think the suburban railways in major metropolitan should be disinvested.

the major reason i think that Indian Govt. does not privatise IR because they think of the 10lac employees, if they privatise then which company would be ready to pay pensions to thousand of its retired employees

^^ Think thats WEH station. In any case, I don't think Mumbai metro website has comprehensive info on renders of differnet stations...actually the website does not have anything new at all...annoying

That website has not been updated in ages. Still has the same old pictures from 3-5 years back..:bash:

Found this render for one of the stations but the site doesn't say which.
http://blog.propertynice.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/mumbai_metro.gif

^^ Think thats WEH station. In any case, I don't think Mumbai metro website has comprehensive info on renders of differnet stations...actually the website does not have anything new at all...annoying

Nope. That's just a generic render of a station on MMRDA's website. This is the WEH station:

http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/1111/wehmetrostation.jpg

Metro may merge with suburban rail network



Im confused as to what they want to do... are they planning a standard gauge elevated track that goes from Bandra to Mahalaxmi, and then splitting into elevated till Churchgate and underground till Colaba? And would this mean four tracks between Mahalaxmi and Bandra? From there how will the elevated IR corridor reach Santacruz?

Nope. That's just a generic render of a station on MMRDA's website. This is the WEH station:


Thanks IU...BTW I was going through the earlier parts of this thread (more than 2 years ago). IU was in full flow, digging up so many useful bits of info, calling Reliance/MMRDA etc...Thanks for all the hard work!

On that front - Are MMRDA officials responsive ? I thought about calling them to ask them when they plan to start tendering for Line 3 (the last update was that they have asked the centre for in-principle approval to begin the tendering process). I have at different points of time mailed the reporters in HT (who like covering infrastructure projects) - especially Zeeshan Shaikh but they don't bother replying...

Im confused as to what they want to do... are they planning a standard gauge elevated track that goes from Bandra to Mahalaxmi, and then splitting into elevated till Churchgate and underground till Colaba? And would this mean four tracks between Mahalaxmi and Bandra? From there how will the elevated IR corridor reach Santacruz?

Okay I would not read too much into this but from whatever they have mentioned - this is what I have understood

1. Metro Line 3 runs Colaba - Bandra. It will interconnect with a few suburban lines (CST, Churchgate, Mumbai Central and maybe Mahalakshmi). After that its alignment runs west of WR and again interconnects at Bandra. After that it runs west of WR again all the way north upto Dahisar (It may connect with Dahisar station in Line 4 - but thats another story).

2. The grand (and a little stupid) elevated rail plan proposed by Lalu in the budget envisaged an elevated Virar - Churchgate corridor with the exact same alignment as the current WR line.

They have of course run into problems south of Mahalakshmi station where there is no space to run an elevated line as well.

So they are proposing (from what I understand) that south of Mahalakshmi station onwards this elevated line will merge with the underground metro line (remember its underground south of mahalakshmi)

Of course like it was mentioned earlier, for this to be possible the suburban track has to be standard gauge. There is no chance of the metro being broad gauge for multiple reasons.

That way, would Metro be operating both line 3 and this section of WR creating 4 tracks? If so, it would be wise to use all ac coaches and have slow and fast tracks. In fact, there is no issue of gauge as long as you keep dedicated tracks for WR and Metro.

Thanks IU...BTW I was going through the earlier parts of this thread (more than 2 years ago). IU was in full flow, digging up so many useful bits of info, calling Reliance/MMRDA etc...Thanks for all the hard work!

Cheers mate. There weren't many members from Mumbai back then and next to none actually living in the city. That's why I tried my best to cover the project. Now that we've got more local knowledge flowing through the forum and foot soldiers who can relay the word on the street, I've taken a back seat. :)


On that front - Are MMRDA officials responsive ? I thought about calling them to ask them when they plan to start tendering for Line 3 (the last update was that they have asked the centre for in-principle approval to begin the tendering process). I have at different points of time mailed the reporters in HT (who like covering infrastructure projects) - especially Zeeshan Shaikh but they don't bother replying...

I think I called MMRDA once or twice and it wasn't helpful. If you're trying to call them then I'd suggest you don't try the main office. However you introduce yourself, they will doubt your credentials and not route you to the correct place. The most common excuse is that the fat cat is not in the office. So Instead you should try finding a bid document or any MMRDA document online. Most probably it'll have a fat cat's phone number (some times cell #) who'll have first hand knowledge of the project.

Getting in touch with newspaper reporters is usless unless he/she covers real estate projects. If they have any news on infra projects then they'd be the first to report it. Just like us over here, they have absolutely no reason to hide anything.


@Everyone - I've updated the first post with renderings of some stations and images of the metro rake.

^^
Thanks! Will try that...

That way, would Metro be operating both line 3 and this section of WR creating 4 tracks? If so, it would be wise to use all ac coaches and have slow and fast tracks. In fact, there is no issue of gauge as long as you keep dedicated tracks for WR and Metro.

True that...Perhaps thats why they mentioned that the cost would go up significantly..2 lines undeground is bad enough but 4 will be tough to pull off....

The WR elevated corridor is supposed to be exclusively for AC trains...

Let's wait and watch....I will be happy once MMRDA floats tenders for Line 3...

This may sound stupid but still cant help asking -
Elevated rail corridor merges with Metro 3 can be interprested in multiple ways
1) The Elevated rail will end up at mahalakshmi. But the same ticket can be used in the Metro 3 to travel upto colaba (provided the ticket is brought till colaba). Howhow the ticketing system should be merged.
2) Elevated rail will be elevated till mahalakshmi and then will go underground and use the tracks of the Metro. This option will reduce the freq of metro and lot of fighting. But this should not be technically possible considering no of rakes will be lot more in suburban rail than the metro so signals will not work and the Metro should also use Broad Guage.
3) Why dont they increase the width of the underground tunnel and add a suburban line parallel to the existing Metro line from Mahalakshmi? That way we will have more lines and more capacity. Note sure if the stations can be common though which may be possible if they work out some kind of common ticketing etc.

Cooperation is key

Metro-III may have car depot under race course

That's going to be "extremely" expensive. A depot is many times bigger than an underground station. It will cost 100s of crores more than a surface depot. Relocating people would be still cheaper but tricky option.

why doesnt IR simply die?

:lol:

major chunk of revenue come from Mumbai, btw does anybody has statics about how much mumbai suburban contributes to IR?

Half of the pax using IR are contributed by Mumbai but the revenues won't be high as these are suburban travellers buy tickets in the range of Rs. 5 to 100. Inter-city travellers on the other hand spend upto Rs. 3000 per ticket.

Inter-city travellers on the other hand spend upto Rs. 3000 per ticket.

3000 is very expensive, consider http://www.indianrail.gov.in/cgi_bin/inet_frenq_cgi1.cgi

delhi to chennai max 1 ac is Rs3322 most people travel in general which is Rs528 even delhi to guwahati rajdhani 2 ac is Rs 2400, so fares are very low

http://www.indianrail.gov.in/cgi_bin/inet_srcdest_cgi_time.cgi
example according to me mostly travellers are from bihar(high frequency of trains 16 trains in a day from delhi to patna) maximum fare on this route out of all 16 trains is of rajdhani 1 ac is Rs 2720, minimum is Rs 578 of garib rath :)

^^ Bhau, I wrote upto 3000. Average fair should range from 500-1000 for long distance train and I think Rs. 30-40 for local trains. Correct me if I am wrong.

30-40 in mumbai suburbans is for very long distance roundtrip. average is probably more like 15-20 roundtrip. also consider the amount of people that travel ticketless.

Unlike the free loaders of Railways in the some parts of the country most of the Mumbai Suburban passengers are Ticket/pass buying passengers.Wasnt there a survey published which proved the fact? Also Mumbai Suburban Railway service was untill recently the Only profit making suburban service in the country and its profits were more then the combined losses of the other suburban services.

After ages MMRDA has updated their website (metro and monorail sections)...maybe they were tuning in to SSCi ? :)

http://mmrdamumbai.org/projects_metro_rail.htm


Nothing great though but some information nonetheless...

Line 1 updates

Present Status of the project:

2058 out of 2520 piles are completed
495 out of 754 pile caps are completed
533 out of 868 piers are completed
176 out of 423 pier caps are completed
220 out of 747 U-Girder casting are completed

Line 2 updates

Bhoomipoojan ceremony was held on 18.08.2009 at the hands of Hon’ble President of India.
Special Purpose Vehicle “Mumbai Metro Transport Pvt. Ltd.” incorporated on 29.10.2009.
Concession Agreement between GoM and Mumbai Metro Transport Private Limited was signed on 21.01.2010. Financial Closure expected by October 2010.
Process of getting CRZ clearance for depot/alignment from MoEF is under progress.
Appointment of Independent Engineer is in progress.
SPV MMTPL has taken up the preliminary survey like topographic survey, Soil Investigation survey, condition survey, etc. They have also initiated the appointment of various contractors and the consultants for the project.
The Corridor is expected to be commissioned by 2014


Line 3 updates

Mumbai Metro Rail Corporation was incorporated on 30.04.2008.
GoM approved the project with section Colaba to Mahalaxmi as underground and rest elevated. GR issued on June 15, 2010 declaring project as “vital Infrastructure project” and designated MMRC as the project implementing agency.
GoM has forwarded the proposal to DEA, for in-principle approval and to consider the project under the “Viability Gap funding Scheme for Infrastructure project under BOT/PP scheme of GoI.


Mumbai Metro Phase-II & III corridors

Charkop-Dahisar -8.00km:- M/s Span Consultants Pvt Ltd. Survey works in progress.Draft DPR has been submitted by the consultants and final DPR is expected shortly.
Andheri (E) to Dahisar (E) 16.00 km:- M/s Span Consultants Pvt Ltd. Survey works in progress. Draft DPR is expected by end of July 2010.
BKC- Kanjur Marg Via Airport 22.0km (Extended up to Mahim approximately- 4.00 Kms): M/s Rites Ltd and LASA Pvt Ltd (JV). Survey works in progress. Draft DPR is expected shortly.
Ghatkopar- Mulund 12.50 Km:- M/s CES(I) Pvt Ltd. Survey works in progress. Draft DPR is expected shortly.
Hutatma Chowk to Ghatkopar (21.80 Km):- M/s CES(I) Pvt Ltd. Survey works in progress. Draft DPR is expected shortly.

I think Rs. 30-40 for local trains. Correct me if I am wrong.

i think you mean at least 50-100 km by local, so take an example delhi to rohtak(70 km) fare is Rs165, Rs 30 or 40 is very low, i bet you can`t get any IR train even for local

Occupiedinthought, check out this document on line 2 uploaded by someone on docstoc. It was made in Dec 2009 and has various forms related to choosing an independent consultant for the project. Lots of technical info related to the project can be gleaned from it.

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/43798856/SECTION-6-STANDARD-FORM-OF-CONTRACT-SECTION-7-CONCSSION

Page 5 has contact info of some fat cats:

Shri. P.R.K. Murthy
Chief, Transport and Communications Division, Mumbai Metropolitan Region Development Authority, Bandra Kurla Complex, Bandra (E), Mumbai 400051 Telephone No. 91(22)26591240 (Ext. 263) Fax: 91(22) 2659 1264, E-Mail: prkmurthy1960@yahoo.com

Shri. G. R. Madan
Director, MRTS Mumbai Metropolitan Region Development Authority, Bandra Kurla Complex, Bandra (E), Mumbai 400051 Telephone No. 91(22)26590310 Fax: 91(22) 2659 4163, E-Mail: mumbaimetro@rediffmail.com

Page 5 has contact info of some fat cats:


:lol::lol::lol:

i think you mean at least 50-100 km by local, so take an example delhi to rohtak(70 km) fare is Rs165, Rs 30 or 40 is very low, i bet you can`t get any IR train even for local

I think abhi is right regarding fare.... even for upto 100km is just 30-40 rupees,

for 50 km just rs. 11/- one side

see

http://www.trainweb.org/binaiks/Harbour/Harbour_Panvel.htm

^^ i am not talking about mumbai locals :bash:

read again u said " i bet you can`t get any IR train even for local" :lol:

read again what abhi said.... he said

I think Rs. 30-40 for local trains

^^ i was confused about which locals. i said that because when you go to IR website you will not find any mumbai locals train so the word of local is very confusing :nuts:

30-40 in mumbai suburbans is for very long distance roundtrip. average is probably more like 15-20 roundtrip. also consider the amount of people that travel ticketless.

I included 1st class also in my figures, so the average should be more than 2nd class fares and less than 1st class fares (but closer to the 2nd class fares as 2nd class coaches are more than 1st class)

Occupiedinthought, check out this document on line 2 uploaded by someone on docstoc. It was made in Dec 2009 and has various forms related to choosing an independent consultant for the project. Lots of technical info related to the project can be gleaned from it.

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/43798856/SECTION-6-STANDARD-FORM-OF-CONTRACT-SECTION-7-CONCSSION

Page 5 has contact info of some fat cats:




They are the fat cats but IU you are a Cool Cat...thanks mate...I'll see if I can find out anything about financial closure in Line 2.

More on IR's idea - still can't really understand what's going on...

http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/7324/81270290.jpg

I think we should have a compilation of the change of the plans of railways in the 2 years or so. I am sure we would fill at least 2-3 pages of their plans and most of the "plans" haven't took off.

I wonder how much WR claims to be the cost of building underground from Mahalaxmi. Here they're saying it will "triple the cost."

A 60 km project slated at 100 cr/km will be 6000 cr so it will now be 18000 cr meaning those 6 km cost 12000 cr or 2000 cr/km, which is highly unlikely.

Or they mean that the cost of that section will be triple that of the rest, or 300 cr/km, which is on par with the rest of the country, and 1/3 the estimated cost for underground Metro in Mumbai.

Something fishy? Or just lousy reporting.

http://a.imageshack.us/img213/7213/8152010111914am.jpg

The blue plastic covers were taken off on Saturday for a first look at Mumbai Metro, at Andheri. Two types of trains are being built — four-coach (capacity: 1,500) and six-coach (capacity: 2,250), running between Versova and Ghatkopar. Once operational, the now 2-hour long journey will be completed under 20 minutes
source — DNA

Metro Depot at DN Nagar (under construction)

http://a.imageshack.us/img716/7960/getimage10.jpg

http://a.imageshack.us/img189/8127/getimage12.jpg

The first rake of the Mumbai Metro, brought to the city in April from Shanghai but kept covered by a giant plastic sheet, was seen unveiled for the first time on Saturday morning, a day before Independence Day.

The cynosure of all eyes at the line’s underconstruction Versova car shed, this No 1001 train is expected to start running in May next year, a few months later than the Mumbai Metropolitan Region Development Authority’s (MMRDA) initial December 2010 deadline.

“We have removed the plastic cover on the rake for some basic cleaning now that the rain seems to have stopped for a while,” a source told Mumbai Mirror. “After a few days, the rake will be covered again.”

While there is only one rake in Mumbai as of now, the MMRDA plans to ship 16 such rakes over the next few months in different phases. Each rake will have four coaches, expandable to six in some case for a carrying capacity of 2250 per train.

The first phase of the Metro, covering 11.4 kilometres between Versova-Andheri-Ghatkhopar, is approximately 60 per cent complete with some of the 12 stations on the route already under construction.

When asked about a proposed trial run between DN Nagar and Navrang Cinema on August 15, Dilip Kawathkar, Joint Project Director, MMRDA, denied that was ever on the agenda. “We never spoke about it. It was just speculation,” he said. Sources said, however, that a longer run is being planned around Diwali.

Source : Mumbai Mirror 15-8-2010.

Wow man, i love that design. Looks likes a leaping cat. :D .... But that sexy coach doesnt deserve to sit in that shit hole. !!

hey great update bro..........:cheers:

Very nice. Thanks, fuwad :cheers:

Not bad, at all!

those doors... won't they be too small? or is it just the angle of the pic?

there would be many doors in a compartment.....like 3 doors each side.That would help people to enter smoothly..
Btw nice pics.
When the interior pics would be released??

^^

As soon as they would open the doors. :)

By far the best looking standard gauge metro train in India :cheers:. Bangalore's trains and Delhi metro's standard gauge trains look shit when compared to this.

i dont know

looks ugly to me.

great updates fuwad

i dont know

looks ugly to me.

great updates fuwad

you must be going blind seriously. If this is ugly, I wonder what you'll call the very first delhi metro train. This is sleek as great as it gets. anyway, everyone is entitled to their opinion.

By far the best looking standard gauge metro train in India :cheers:. Bangalore's trains and Delhi metro's standard gauge trains look shit when compared to this.

Lol!!! I am from Delhi and till now we have just one line operational with the 'ugly' standard gauge rakes. Of course, they aren't beautiful like the Mumbai ones, so yay for Mumbaiiiiii...:banana:. But then we have the Germany made Bombardier rakes(now also in production at Bombardier's Savli plant in Gujarat) which are not just simple yet futuristic but also super-comfortable :D:nuts:

M happy happy happyyyyy for both Mumbai Metro(May 2011) and Bangalore Metro(Dec, 2010)... :cheers:

very sleak looking trains, I'm glad we are improving in terms of rolling stock with each metro. from Kolkata , Delhi , b'lore and now Mumbai.

Hope it is the same for operational efficiancy.

there would be many doors in a compartment.....like 3 doors each side.That would help people to enter smoothly..
Btw nice pics.
When the interior pics would be released??

Man this must be big for you as its obvious that you never travelled in a metro. Both sides cant be used for alighting and boarding a metro. One side is used for one way, while the other side is used for the other.

Man this must be big for you as its obvious that you never travelled in a metro. Both sides cant be used for alighting and boarding a metro. One side is used for one way, while the other side is used for the other.
Try again: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_solution

Not very common though, it's mostly used at very busy terminal stations.

Try again: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_solution

Not very common though, it's mostly used at very busy terminal stations.

just like cst, dadar CR(platform 1 and 2), kurla etc

Try again: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_solution

Not very common though, it's mostly used at very busy terminal stations.

My apologies!

i dont know

looks ugly to me.

great updates fuwad

So what in your opinion is beautiful. Compare Mumbai's trains with Delhi metro's standard gauge trains and Bangalore metro trains.

http://www.projectsmonitor.com/NewsImages/Photos%2029/BEML.jpg

http://bangaloremetromap.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/namma-metro1.jpg

I find both of these 2 ugly when compared to Mumbai's trains. Delhi metro's both broad gauge stocks are much more beautiful than the standard gauge toy trains.

http://a.imageshack.us/img213/7213/8152010111914am.jpg

The blue plastic covers were taken off on Saturday for a first look at Mumbai Metro, at Andheri. Two types of trains are being built — four-coach (capacity: 1,500) and six-coach (capacity: 2,250), running between Versova and Ghatkopar. Once operational, the now 2-hour long journey will be completed under 20 minutes
source — DNA

Looks Beautiful to me ... Esp the headlight and Front slope is awesome :cheers:

@abhi

they all look ugly.

@abhi

they all look ugly.

I agree.

I like the Mumbai rolling stock but I think they should have had some design theme on the side. It looks too bland compared to Delhis and Bangalore's.

very sleak looking trains, I'm glad we are improving in terms of rolling stock with each metro. from Kolkata , Delhi , b'lore and now Mumbai.

Hope it is the same for operational efficiancy.

there is an outside rumor that Hyderabad Metro is gonna be the best one yet & will have the same rolling stock as Dubai Metro

http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/3198/hydmetro.jpg

:banana::banana::cheers: unless, L & T will deside to go the cheap way which hasnt been the case yet. Still a rumor though. talk to few of my cousins from Hyd & this is what they said. nothing been confirmed yet. so still waiting.

Just like Hyd ended up getting the sleekest airport with sleekest ATC tower, Hyd metro rail might just end up being sleakest just cuz of 1.5 yrs delay :cheers::cheers::cheers:

there is an outside rumor that Hyderabad Metro is gonna be the best one yet & will have the same rolling stock as Dubai Metro

http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/3198/hydmetro.jpg

:banana::banana::cheers: unless, L & T will deside to go the cheap way which hasnt been the case yet. Still a rumor though. talk to few of my cousins from Hyd & this is what they said. nothing been confirmed yet. so still waiting.

Just like Hyd ended up getting the sleekest airport with sleekest ATC tower, Hyd metro rail might just end up being sleakest just cuz of 1.5 yrs delay :cheers::cheers::cheers:



come on guys. don't compare state wise . India is growing like anything. compare with world metro's... let see it.

I agree.

:rofl:

I din't really like the Mumbai metro train ,sorry to say but it looks like a toy train , cheap and as ugly as the standard gauge trains of delhi metro....I like delhi metro's Broad gauge trains( new one) not sleek but muscular and have a authoritative stance ...bold and beautiful...& well built.

Mumbai trains looked better during test runs in China.

Probably, the dull weather and dirty surroundings have toned it down.

finally some people to back me up.

Hyderabad looks sleek and nice.(if they copy dubai)

the rest are just ugly.Bangalore is just too damn ugly.

Not that i am bothered too much cause I just want to get from one point to another quickly via the metro.

Looks is a distant last priority. I dont mind cheap and functional ugly looking trains. cheaper the trains cheaper the price of ticket(or will have some impact on the ticket) So i hope they keep the cost down for the tickets.

:lol:

what are people expecting metro trains to look like? bullet trains?

metro trains need a flat front for the piston effect (even though in this case the train is not u/g). see metro trains all over the world. you will find some real ugly beasts

Well. my two bits.
if the train goes underground then we can forget about the slanted face, it should be fairly flat one.
Plus you dont want to spend too much on your rolling stock. it is not a national pride if your engine looks ugly. It should be practical and best we can afford.

If you have noticed most of the big name metros of the world have ugly rolling stock but beautiful stations.
the one from dubai was purely selected for the show as their metro is above ground. it may not be practical to buy for us.

Delhi's meter gauge trains look awesome I think.

BB we are well aware of it...we are not expecting anything like Dubai Rolling stock...Well flat nose pilot coaches can also look good...For example see Delhi metro Express Line and new Bombardier coaches.

All we wanted to say is..These new rakes don't look good....and yeah...Bangalore metro rakes...yuk...not at all good..

I am very sure no metro train in the world be more ugly than bangalore metro...followed by Delhi metro Standard Gauge train and then Mumbai....

BB we are well aware of it...we are not expecting anything like Dubai Rolling stock...Well flat nose pilot coaches can also look good...For example see Delhi metro Express Line and new Bombardier coaches.

All we wanted to say is..These new rakes don't look good....and yeah...Bangalore metro rakes...yuk...not at all good..

I am very sure no metro train in the world be more ugly than bangalore metro...followed by Delhi metro Standard Gauge train and then Mumbai....

personal taste i guess.. I personally think the rakes look ok. Not the best, but not bad either!!

OT - Dubai metro does have an underground section

I seriously cannot believe people complaining about mumbai metro. :ohno: come to think of it, mumbai should've had metro rail by 1995 when Pop. was still under control. It should've had 200+ km of metro rail zig zagging all 7 islands by now with even worse looking metro trains than Delhi metro.

We get this good solid design & we dont even have 25 km of mumbai covered by metro rail & its 2011 already. People start disliking metro design. come to think of it, maybe indian people dont deserve development at all for backward mentality. :ohno:

Personally i don't think the exterior looks matter a lot. What's more important is interior comfort and finishing these projects on time.

I seriously cannot believe people complaining about mumbai metro. :ohno: come to think of it, mumbai should've had metro rail by 1995 when Pop. was still under control. It should've had 200+ km of metro rail zig zagging all 7 islands by now with even worse looking metro trains than Delhi metro.

We get this good solid design & we dont even have 25 km of mumbai covered by metro rail & its 2011 already. People start disliking metro design. come to think of it, maybe indian people dont deserve development at all for backward mentality. :ohno:

Dude its not backward mentality , its just our opinion...I expected better trains for Mumbai Metro..It's like a toy train...doesn't look solid/well built to many...

Delhi metro broad gauge coaches look muscular and solid...!!!

:rofl:

LOL what was so funny?


and guys don't forget about Jaipur Metro... I wonder what they're going to be like... Although I have no hope of them being good looking but still. I do feel that when it will come to stations; Jaipur metro ones will be the best looking.

Dude its not backward mentality , its just our opinion...I expected better trains for Mumbai Metro..It's like a toy train...doesn't look solid/well built to many...

Delhi metro broad gauge coaches look muscular and solid...!!!

I'm surprised such frivilous comments are coming from you IR. Its a standard gauge train. It is as muscular as its dimensions specify. BTW how do you measure how muscular a train is BTW :) For that matter, all cities are getting what they are paying for. In any case, how much do looks matter in any case ? What more important is room inside the train, comfort levels, announcements, signage inside the train etc....

I'm surprised such frivilous comments are coming from you IR. Its a standard gauge train. It is as muscular as its dimensions specify. BTW how do you measure how muscular a train is BTW :) For that matter, all cities are getting what they are paying for. In any case, how much do looks matter in any case ? What more important is room inside the train, comfort levels, announcements, signage inside the train etc....

Yaar dont get me wrong...I was having high hopes with Mumbai metro...They could have showcased new India in a better way with Nice looking metro and monorails operating together...

And dude trust me...90% of people do decide about metro because of its looks

FOr me personally , Its always been the services..However, it's always nice to have aesthetics & functionality working together.....

there is an outside rumor that Hyderabad Metro is gonna be the best one yet & will have the same rolling stock as Dubai Metro

After the fiasco of Bangalore's renders of modern metro stations vs actual stations, I now believe only in the final product.

Delhi's meter gauge trains look awesome I think.

lol. It's standard gauge :D

After the fiasco of Bangalore's renders of modern metro stations vs actual stations, I now believe only in the final product.



lol. It's standard gauge :D

I meant broad gauge. I got 3 hours of sleep last night:bash:

^^

You really are having a bad day lol

After ages MMRDA has updated their website (metro and monorail sections)...maybe they were tuning in to SSCi ? :)
http://mmrdamumbai.org/projects_metro_rail.htm
Line 3 updates
Mumbai Metro Rail Corporation was incorporated on 30.04.2008.
GoM approved the project with section Colaba to Mahalaxmi as underground and rest elevated. GR issued on June 15, 2010 declaring project as “vital Infrastructure project” and designated MMRC as the project implementing agency.
GoM has forwarded the proposal to DEA, for in-principle approval and to consider the project under the “Viability Gap funding Scheme for Infrastructure project under BOT/PP scheme of GoI.

I've recreated the Line 3 alignment map which is there on their website. Here it is:

http://img808.imageshack.us/img808/7057/mumbaimetroline3j.jpg

It's also on the first page now:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=451426

:ohno:
look at all the water pollution

LOL what was so funny?


and guys don't forget about Jaipur Metro... I wonder what they're going to be like... Although I have no hope of them being good looking but still. I do feel that when it will come to stations; Jaipur metro ones will be the best looking.

to me it is funny that some one finds the Mumbai metro coaches ugly.... I couldn't stop my self laughing that the comments...

Yaar dont get me wrong...I was having high hopes with Mumbai metro...They could have showcased new India in a better way with Nice looking metro and monorails operating together...

And dude trust me...90% of people do decide about metro because of its looks

FOr me personally , Its always been the services..However, it's always nice to have aesthetics & functionality working together.....

^^ Have patience they haven't completed the work yet . we might be jumping our guns ..

to me it is funny that some one finds the Mumbai metro coaches ugly.... I couldn't stop my self laughing that the comments...

strange...

Dont compare anything with dubai as everything in here is just a showoff.. Well they paid the hefty price for their show offs recently...

There are pics of the MM1 coaches?

^^ if just go back one page.. u can see that :)

I've recreated the Line 3 alignment map which is there on their website. Here it is:

It's also on the first page now:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=451426

wait wait wait

wasnt this line meant to end in Colaba proper and not cuffe parade.

is this finalised?

wait wait wait

wasnt this line meant to end in Colaba proper and not cuffe parade.

is this finalised?

Ya that was the initial plan, but I don't think it's finalized yet, as is everything with this Metro plan.

So this question has been bothering me for sometime since I made a map of the alignments of the metro lines here: http://j.mp/mumbai-transit

Line 1 was done according to the information I got here and at the MMRDA website, which is accurate, but there was some confusion on the stations along line 2 in the BKC area. If you look at the MMRDA stations on this section, they envisage a station at the IT office and MMRDA

http://mmrdamumbai.org/images/charkop-bandra.jpg

However, the distance from MMRDA to the IT office is about 1/2 km...are they really going to have stations that close? Anyone travelled on that road recently?

From what I understand, the stations were to be as follows Kurla (at/near present Kurla station) --> BKC complex road (after crossing the river) --> Bharat Nagar (near the Asian heart hospital) --> MMRDA or IT office (whatever you want to call it) --> Bandra.

This seemed logical because each of these stations are about 1 to 1.2 km apart. Any thoughts?

maybe its to make it convenient for the folks at IT to come and check mmrda's accounts regularly

I believe, the stations are placed pretty close based on traffic projections. Even in Line 1, the stations are just 0.5 km apart in Andheri W.

The overall progress of Metro seems to be very slow now (may be due to monsoon).

Some activity is seen in Andheri and Azad nagar station. They are removing the scaffolding on the tall pillar near WEH. Hope the bridge across WEH comes soon.

Indiadreams, thanks for the update. Any progress at all on the bridge over WR ?

I believe, the stations are placed pretty close based on traffic projections. Even in Line 1, the stations are just 0.5 km apart in Andheri W.

Well actually more like 0.8-0.9 km...to have two stations so close seems weird, unless of course the names are just placeholders.

wait wait wait

wasnt this line meant to end in Colaba proper and not cuffe parade.

is this finalised?

Also, wasn't the other end supposed to end at the airport and not at Bandra? What about that? :?:

Also, wasn't the other end supposed to end at the airport and not at Bandra? What about that? :?:

That was just a proposal, nothing has happened after that. I think extending the line to airport will further increase the viability of this ill-fated line, though the cost will also multiply since that extension is u/g.

^^
Yeah they are preparing a separate DPR for that line (it will be Mahim - BKC - Airport - Kanjur Marg)....will be taken up in phase 2 if they ever get around to constructing Line 3 that is....

:lol:

what are people expecting metro trains to look like? bullet trains?

metro trains need a flat front for the piston effect (even though in this case the train is not u/g). see metro trains all over the world. you will find some real ugly beasts

yup there are many ugly beasts......IMO NYC Subway rakes are by far the ugliest I have ever seen:puke::puke::puke:...they are not even articulated nd look like tin ka dabba... nd especially their front is ugly (not very sleek nd appealing if we take into consideration the country i.e. U.S.)

^^ Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Besides, the subway is a very important/unique cultural symbol of NYC. Sometimes cutting edge designs are sacrificed for sake of maintaining appearance of these metropolitan symbols (i.e. just like old fashioned London cabbies, the Double-D Routemasters, Chicago El, etc etc)

yup there are many ugly beasts......IMO NYC Subway rakes are by far the ugliest I have ever seen:puke::puke::puke:...they are not even articulated nd look like tin ka dabba... nd especially their front is ugly (not very sleek nd appealing if we take into consideration the country i.e. U.S.)

Beasts they are...beasts of burden! There's a reason NYC is considered one of the best metro systems in the world (service-wise). Frankly, at this stage it doesn't matter what the rolling stock looks like...I'd rather have NY-style functional cars first and have them do u/g instead.

Also, for what it's worth I quite like the rolling stock that Mumbai has....reminds me of the new ones for Tehran metro. http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3396/3662327744_bf5852c10c.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/15506029@N04/1650906168/

Can't they hire Shreedharan to take over this project?

Can't they hire Shreedharan to take over this project?

+1

Can't they hire Shreedharan to take over this project?

He will not be handling even his baby (DMRC) after 2010 and you are hoping that he will work for Mumbai metro.

sreedharan himself cant do much if his hands are tied. what you need is overall co-operation from all local, state and national agencies, which is easier in delhi

Shreedharan for president....no seriously...

Shiela Dixit has been fully cooperative with E. Shreedharan...that has helped him alot in achieving his goals...

OT, but I just want to say this - the 'Sreedharan for President' idea is pointless. Why would you want to take someone from a position where he can do things hands on, and put his project management skills to work, and put him in the role of a figurehead with no powers or ability to utilize his skills the way he's done ?

Ideally, I'd rather see Sreedharan being tapped to mentor a generation of junior/intermediate level administrative personnel as an emeritus professor or consultant in a gurukul setting. These people will learn from his extraordinary and unprecedented experience - how he build DM on time and under budget, and go forth to apply his lessons themselves.

This is far more practical than attempting to foist the poor man into a position where politics will ensure he does nothing of any use to the country.

He will not be handling even his baby (DMRC) after 2010 and you are hoping that he will work for Mumbai metro.

Dude, I know he's going to retire. We need someone of his attitude and work ethics to work for MM.

Shreedharan for president....no seriously...

Shiela Dixit has been fully cooperative with E. Shreedharan...that has helped him alot in achieving his goals...

How will having him as a President help us? What good will that do?

How will having him as a President help us? What good will that do?

A Strong leader...who knows how to get the work done and that too without corruption...
And moreover he has earned great respect of all Indians..It will not only help Delhi and Mumbai but whole of India...he's a man with vision..and knows how to realize it..!!!

OT, but I just want to say this - the 'Sreedharan for President' idea is pointless. Why would you want to take someone from a position where he can do things hands on, and put his project management skills to work, and put him in the role of a figurehead with no powers or ability to utilize his skills the way he's done ?

Ideally, I'd rather see Sreedharan being tapped to mentor a generation of junior/intermediate level administrative personnel as an emeritus professor or consultant in a gurukul setting. These people will learn from his extraordinary and unprecedented experience - how he build DM on time and under budget, and go forth to apply his lessons themselves.

This is far more practical than attempting to foist the poor man into a position where politics will ensure he does nothing of any use to the country.

Humnnn...He has decided to retire this year and will not be taking up more projects ....that's why..!!!

A Strong leader...who knows how to get the work done and that too without corruption...
And moreover he has earned great respect of all Indians..It will not only help Delhi and Mumbai but whole of India...he's a man with vision..and knows how to realize it..!!!

Right. I understand that. But a President has very limited powers in India as we know that. So he will just be a source of inspiration for many Indians just like APJ Abdul Kalam was.

Indiadreams, thanks for the update. Any progress at all on the bridge over WR ?

Not really. I think they have to complete the tall pillar on the western side of WEH before that. While the scaffolding on the eastern pillar is removed, they are erecting the same on the western pillar.

Metro Bhavan can’t stand on racecourse

http://www.dnaindia.com/mumbai/report_metro-bhavan-can-t-stand-on-racecourse_1427815


The Brihanmumbai Municipal Corporation (BMC) has refused to hand over a portion of (six hectares) the Mahalaxmi racecourse to the Mumbai Metropolitan Region Development Authority (MMRDA) to set up the Metro Bhavan, headquarters for the nine corridors of the metro rail. However, some portions of the racecourse will be utilised for the underground metro line-III, which will run from Colaba to Bandra. -> This may be for the stations i Think
After a two-hour meeting between metropolitan commissioner Ratnakar Gaikwad and municipal commissioner Swadhin Kshatria, the civic body said it was not possible for it to allow construction of the Metro Bhavan on the racecourse land.

“This portion would have been ideal for a Metro Bhavan. Mahalaxmi would have been crucial because four different lines — the third metro, the monorail coming up to Jacob Circle, the suburban railway line and Western Railway’s proposed elevated corridor — come together at a single place. Since the BMC has not given us a go-ahead, we will now be looking at a different place for the Metro Bhavan,” said Gaikwad.

While accepting the fact that finding a suitable place for such a building will be an uphill task for the authority, Gaikwad said that this will not result in any delay in the ongoing metro project.

“The Metro Bhavan would be essential after the commissioning of the three lines of metro and phase two of the monorail project,” he added. “We do have sufficient time to look for a separate place and this will not have any negative impact on the ongoing metro works.”

Metro Bhavan can’t stand on racecourse

http://www.dnaindia.com/mumbai/report_metro-bhavan-can-t-stand-on-racecourse_1427815


The Brihanmumbai Municipal Corporation (BMC) has refused to hand over a portion of (six hectares) the Mahalaxmi racecourse to the Mumbai Metropolitan Region Development Authority (MMRDA) to set up the Metro Bhavan, headquarters for the nine corridors of the metro rail. However, some portions of the racecourse will be utilised for the underground metro line-III, which will run from Colaba to Bandra. -> This may be for the stations i Think
After a two-hour meeting between metropolitan commissioner Ratnakar Gaikwad and municipal commissioner Swadhin Kshatria, the civic body said it was not possible for it to allow construction of the Metro Bhavan on the racecourse land.


They act as though there is no other place to build a metro HQ. The HQ need not be at the most used terminal/station/junction!

However, some portions of the racecourse will be utilised for the underground metro line-III, which will run from Colaba to Bandra. -> This may be for the stations i Think

not for the station, but for the maintenance shed (which they propose to have u/g). might also be used for the mahalaxmi station, but i'm not sure where they plan to have the station

^^ Im assuming they will build a skywalk from Jacob Circle over Dhobighat to Mahalaxmi station then hopefully continue the same structure to the Metro station. Hopefully the station itself is underneath E Moses Rd and then comes above ground afterwards. Meaning that the skywalk will proceed into a subway. Lets hope they think this through. Its chaotic enough there lets not further fuck it up shall we?

^^ Im assuming they will build a skywalk from Jacob Circle over Dhobighat to Mahalaxmi station then hopefully continue the same structure to the Metro station. Hopefully the station itself is underneath E Moses Rd and then comes above ground afterwards. Meaning that the skywalk will proceed into a subway. Lets hope they think this through. Its chaotic enough there lets not further fuck it up shall we?

Infact they will be building a skywalk from Jacob circle to Mahalaxmi station when the monorail gets completed inorder for people to walk directly from monorail to mahalaxmi station.

guys here is mumbai metro interior pic from dna

sorry for bad quality, its taken from pdf

http://i35.tinypic.com/261f3ft.jpg

source
http://epaper.dnaindia.com/epaperpdf/25082010/24main%20edition-pg8-0.pdf

Exterior of Metro coach Mumbai.

http://a.imageshack.us/img687/2672/8252010124000pm.jpg

http://a.imageshack.us/img340/7552/8252010123204pm.jpg

source : http://epaper.dnaindia.com/epaperpdf/25082010/24main%20edition-pg8-0.pdf

Its nice, just they could have put more signage on the side

Improving commuter comfort

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PRK Murthy, Chief, Transport & Communications Division, MMRDA, shares how the concept of Skywalks, MumbaiMetro and Mumba Mono Rail originated and the strong emphasis on minimizing inconvenience during project implimentation with Vijay Pandya.

If there is any city in India that needs Metro rail, it is Mumbai. The first study was done in 1969 by Town Planning Department and MTP Railways in 1975. At that stage, it was costing about Rs. 275 crore for a 20 km Metro rail from Colaba to Kurla. It got stuck because of the high cost.The railways said urban transport system is not their responsibility.

Over the years, so many experts came and made presentations but there was always confusion due to lack of technical advice. When people were presenting different technologies, the question asked by MMRDA and the government was whether such systems have been implemented and tested before? In a public transport system the responsibility for commuters safety rests with the government. Therefore, Mumbai cannot experiment on a new system on busy corridors where millions of people are commuting every day. That is why MMRDA and the government have rightly decided to go in for proven and tested technology.

Mumbai is the only city in the world that has more than 80% people public transport dependent. Worldwide Metros are launched to attract car owners, whereas in Mumbai people switchove to private vehicles as public Transport is overloaded. Since 2003, we took up the feasibility study for the project and every step has been a struggle, from finalising the gauge to dealing with PILs. The Monorail concept idea came out of necessity of improving the public transport in Mumbai.

No solution can be universal; each area has its specific problems. The city needs, the culture and habits have to be kept in mind and the systems need to be articulated accordingly. After the Metro Master Plan work is completed, which is prepared with the objective of providing mass transit system within ½ to 1 km distance, there are still certain areas, which cannot be covered by the Metro or suburban rail system due to technical and space constraints. There are also certain narrow corridors in Mumbai where the demand for public transport is more but the systems like BRTS can't be augmented. So, the Monorail has been thought of, with a view to provide a system,which will act as a feeder to the Metro and suburban trains, but have more capacity than the conventional bus system.
(excerpts from the interview)

full Interview:
http://epaper.dnaindia.com/epaperpdf/25082010/24main%20edition-pg8-0.pdf

hmmm it looks nice from the side.....

On using part of Mahalakhmi race course. Does anybody else see PIL's on the horizon?

what does BB think on the matter

guys here is mumbai metro interior pic from dna

http://i35.tinypic.com/261f3ft.jpg



Look Ma, no spit blotches on the floors and walls, no illegal hand bills stuck on the walls, no dented furniture.

How Nice!!!! India Shining!!!

May be you spoke too soon.

hmmm it looks nice from the side.....

On using part of Mahalakhmi race course. Does anybody else see PIL's on the horizon?

what does BB think on the matter

they will be using a part of it temporarily to do the digging. in the end everything will be u/g and the ground will be restored to the racecourse

they may get PILs for environmental damage during the digging. but thats totally up to them, if they go by the law or violate it

May be you spoke too soon.
ROFLMAO ...

ROFLSHTMDH

Metro construction gallery (about 2 months old but really great pics):
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tusharking/sets/72157623760159238/with/4467235397/

No problem boss. They are still awesome.

If I remember correctly, Mumbai coaches are built in China by a chinese company given their technical expertise..

Any idea if there are any plans of setting up a local facility in India, where Indians will be employed and trained and local manufacturers / suppliers gets a boost?

I really doubt if Indians will ever be able to produce a Made In India Metro trains which are classy in looks and have robust design.

del

If I remember correctly, Mumbai coaches are built in China by a chinese company given their technical expertise..

Any idea if there are any plans of setting up a local facility in India, where Indians will be employed and trained and local manufacturers / suppliers gets a boost?

Eventually private companies in India will move into metro coach manufacturing, seeing the demand.

More coaches arriving...
CC TOI
http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/1326/metrowt.jpg (http://img714.imageshack.us/i/metrowt.jpg/)

If I remember correctly, Mumbai coaches are built in China by a chinese company given their technical expertise..

Any idea if there are any plans of setting up a local facility in India, where Indians will be employed and trained and local manufacturers / suppliers gets a boost?

Siemens already has a factory right here in Maharashtra which can produce Metro Coachs...check out the link below

http://www.siemens.co.in/en/news_press/index/news_archive/apr_28_2010.htm

More coaches arriving...
CC TOI
http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/1326/metrowt.jpg (http://img714.imageshack.us/i/metrowt.jpg/)

I was about to post the same....anyway thank for posting the pic...great news.

Siemens already has a factory right here in Maharashtra which can produce Metro Coachs...check out the link below

http://www.siemens.co.in/en/news_press/index/news_archive/apr_28_2010.htm

That's a bogie factory, not a coach factory.

I really doubt if Indians will ever be able to produce a Made In India Metro trains which are classy in looks and have robust design.

Wake up dude, wake up.

BEML has been manufacturing metro trains for Delhi metro since 2002. Bombardier trains for Delhi metro are also locally manufactured.

May be you spoke too soon.

How are the Interiors of Delhi Metro these days? Am asking as we Do have a lot of 90k per month ghar baithe Companies. :ohno:

That's a bogie factory, not a coach factory.

Read that link again don't just go by headline:)

The new facility has the required capacities and capabilities to produce high performance bogies for locomotives, passenger coaches, EMUs and metros. The range will include metro bogies with 18 tonnes axle load with speed upwards of 80 kmph, bogies for local trains with 21.5 tonne axle load with maximum speed of 130 kmph, bogies for high speed trains with a speed range of 350 kmph, high comfort bogies for passenger coaches with speed upwards of 160 kmph and high axle load locomotive bogies

That's a bogie factory, not a coach factory.

sorry... my mistake.

Beasts they are...beasts of burden! There's a reason NYC is considered one of the best metro systems in the world (service-wise). Frankly, at this stage it doesn't matter what the rolling stock looks like...I'd rather have NY-style functional cars first and have them do u/g instead.

Also, for what it's worth I quite like the rolling stock that Mumbai has....reminds me of the new ones for Tehran metro. http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3396/3662327744_bf5852c10c.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/15506029@N04/1650906168/

yup u r right NYC subway is by far the best metro sys. in da world if u consider its service....I was just talking in general about the rolling stock....but as u said the looks of rolling stock dunn matter after sometime...service does...:)

Read that link again don't just go by headline:)

The new facility has the required capacities and capabilities to produce high performance bogies for locomotives, passenger coaches, EMUs and metros. The range will include metro bogies with 18 tonnes axle load with speed upwards of 80 kmph, bogies for local trains with 21.5 tonne axle load with maximum speed of 130 kmph, bogies for high speed trains with a speed range of 350 kmph, high comfort bogies for passenger coaches with speed upwards of 160 kmph and high axle load locomotive bogies

Yah, I read it but clearly you haven't. Your larger and colorized fonts don't change the fact that it is a bogie factory and not a coach factory. Maybe you don't know what a bogie is?

Wake up dude, wake up.

BEML has been manufacturing metro trains for Delhi metro since 2002. Bombardier trains for Delhi metro are also locally manufactured.

+1

My thoughts exactly.

Wake up dude, wake up.

BEML has been manufacturing metro trains for Delhi metro since 2002. Bombardier trains for Delhi metro are also locally manufactured.

Bombardier is not an Indian company. I was talking about Indian companies. BEML is an exception.

well with only one city with metro i dont think any Indian company can start a business and invest in research , testing and production.
let there me metros in 10 cities and future plans of 20 more than you can see some Indian company. It takes a lot of money , time and know how to build metro trains.
we just started manufacturing our own cars, you will have to wait before you can see our own metros and commercial airplanes.

well with only one city with metro i dont think any Indian company can start a business and invest in research , testing and production.
let there me metros in 10 cities and future plans of 20 more than you can see some Indian company. It takes a lot of money , time and know how to build metro trains.
we just started manufacturing our own cars, you will have to wait before you can see our own metros and commercial airplanes.

Actually two cities have metro running - Kolkata was the first city in India to have a metro. It is still running, as far as I know, and the last time I checked, Kolkata was a city and still in India, so that makes it two Indian cities with metro.

yea.. but thats run by the railways... they will never ever buy from anyone else!!

yea.. but thats run by the railways... they will never ever buy from anyone else!!

So what ? A metro is a metro whether run by railways or not.

relax people..

I thought this discussion was about how there wasn't enough demand for metro coaches for indigenous producers to step in. IR will only buy from within is all I said. I did not say Kolkata metro isn't a metro because its under the railways!!

Sheesh everyone is touchy!!!

I did not say Kolkata metro isn't a metro because its under the railways!!

The way you wrote after dakshinapraja's post, you made it feel like that :)

Source (http://www.indianexpress.com/news/Devp-body-to-fast-track-work-on-Metro-corridors/672857/)
Mumbai: Ganapati Rakhi Sweets Combo China Wholesale Discount Shopping The Mumbai Metropolitan Region Development Authority (MMRDA) has set itself a deadline of 2013 to complete around two Metro Rail corridors, start work on seven more and build a network of 100 km of monorail network in the MMR.

Of the nine corridors, the Versova-Andheri-Ghatkopar (VAG) Metro Rail corridor and the first monorail link between Chembur-Wadala-Jacob Circle is to be commissioned by 2011 and the work on the Charkop-Bandra-Mankhurd link would commence by September-end this year. MMRDA officials said by 2013, the work on the extended Mumbai Urban Infrastructure Project (MUIP) that includes the Eastern Freeway Project and the Anik-Panjarpol Link Road (APLR) should be completed and commissioned.

“Work on projects like providing around 5 lakh rental housing, Innovation Park and Multi-modal corridor from Alibaug to Virar, Matheran Funicular Railway and regional landfill sites in the MMR would commence by next year,” said Dilip Kawathkar, joint project director (public relations). Projects like the multi-modal corridor from Virar to Alibaug would connect the two extreme ends of the MMR. “There would be better infrastructure and accommodation capacities for smoother business operations in the MMR by 2013,” said Metropolitan Commissioner Ratnakar Gaikwad.

Mumbai: Ganapati Rakhi Sweets Combo China Wholesale Discount Shopping The Mumbai Metropolitan Region Development Authority (MMRDA) .....
:lol:

There might be more progress if they stopped talking so much gibberish to reporters.

:lol:

There might be more progress if they stopped talking so much gibberish to reporters.

I guess that was said by the blogger because those words arent there in the original news source.

^^ No, if you click on the source link you will see those words shanware highlighted as ad links. Seems the original poster accidentally copy/pasted them.

Actually two cities have metro running - Kolkata was the first city in India to have a metro. It is still running, as far as I know, and the last time I checked, Kolkata was a city and still in India, so that makes it two Indian cities with metro.

when did kolkata join the united states of India??

on serious notes, kolkata metro is glorified Indian Railways. i intentionally left it out.

Metro to trim new skywalks

Yogesh Naik | TNN 30-08-2010

Parts Of Santa Cruz,Vile Parle Bridges To Go

Mumbai: Arms of two newly-constructed skywalks at Santa Cruz and Vile Parle will have to be dismantled within two years to make way for the Charkop Bandra-Mankhurd metro which will pass through S V Road.A clear case of poor planning by the Mumbai Metropolitan Region Development Authority (MMRDA) which will result in a huge waste of public money. The Santa Cruz skywalk links the Eastern Express Highway with S V Road,while the one at Vile Parle links S V Road to the station.Both these skywalks extend across S V Road.

An MMRDA official said,Since the metro will pass through S V Road,the arms of the skywalk that travel across the road will have to dismantled. Confirming this,MMRDA spokesperson Dilip Kawathkar said,The metro will take another two years to come up and we will dismantle the portions of the skywalks when the metro comes up. G R Madan of the MMRDA initially said a part of only one skywalk will have to be dismantled and blamed the Maharashtra State Road Development Corporation for it,saying the MSRDC was in charge of constructing the skywalk.

The 31.87-km long Charkop-Bandra metro will pass through Malad West,Kasturi Park,Bangur Nagar,Swami Samartha Nagar,Versova,ESIC,JVPD,Juhu,Vile Parle,Nanavati Hospital,Aryasamaj chowk,National College and then travel to BKC,Income Tax,S G Barve Marg in Kurla,Ramkrishna Chemburkar Marg,Shivaji Chowk,BSNL and then to Mankhurd.The route has 27 elevated stations and is expected to cost Rs 6,192 crore.

A top MMRDA official tried to downplay the waste of public money.He said,We are not dismantling the entire skywalk and only a portion will have to be removed.This can be fixed again or used elsewhere. The MMRDA,which has planned both the skywalks and metro routes in the city,however refused to comment on how much money was being spent on the skywalks and the extent of losses due to the dismantling.

http://lite.epaper.timesofindia.com/getpage.aspx?pageid=7&pagesize=&edid=&edlabel=TOIM&mydateHid=30-08-2010&pubname=&edname=&publabel=TOI

Plan for Colaba-Bandra link to pass below Mithi

Yogesh Naik | TNN 30-08-2010

Mumbai: After demanding 54 acres for a depot for the Colaba-Bandra metro underneath the stables at Mahalaxmi Race course,the Mumbai Metropolitan Region Development Authority (MMRDA) is thinking of constructing a tunnel under the Mithi river and stretching the metro to the airport to link it with the island city.

MMRDA commissioner Ratnakar Gaikwad told TOI,We have to extend the Colaba-Bandra metro to the airport for better connectivity and constructing a tunnel under the Mithi is one option we are exploring,which is also recommended by the Delhi Metro Rail Corporation (DMRC) study.But we will analyse its techno-economic feasibility before taking a decision. MMRDA officials said it will be a tough task constructing a tunnel under the Mithi Rivers bed.But at least,this line will not pass through the mangroves of Mithi like the Bandra-Mankhurd section.

Another option is to bring it via the Mahim causeway.Gaikwad said the MMRDA is studying three to four options. The Colaba-Bandra metro will pass through Prakash Pethe road in Colaba,Jagannath Bhosale Road near Mantralaya,Hutatma Chowk,D N Road,Jagannath Sunkersett Road in the crowded Girgaum area,Dr D B Marg at Grant Road,Nair Road,E Moses Road in Worli,Annie Besant Road in Worli,Shankar Ghanekar Road in Dadar,Lady Jamshetji Road in Mahim and traverse a distance of 38.24 km.

A senior planner in the railways said the six lines of the Western Railway corridor pass underneath and the MMRDA must take a great deal of care if they plan to dig a tunnel while taking the metro to Bandra East.
The costs of the tunnel and extension to the airport are yet to be worked out.

Environmentalists are not averse to the idea of the tunnel.Sanctuary Asias editor Bittu Sehgal said,Investments in the metro may sound expensive today,but in the longer run,provided the geological studies are properly done,the metro will prove cheaper and more climate friendly than the private car investments we are making.

Rishi Agarwal of the Mangrove Society of India said,The tunnel will have to be built deep inside the crust.Its a good idea,but the metro must also have stops on the highway so that it proves to be an alternative to reach the city faster.
http://lite.epaper.timesofindia.com/getpage.aspx?pageid=7&pagesize=&edid=&edlabel=TOIM&mydateHid=30-08-2010&pubname=&edname=&publabel=TOI

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This article confused the hell outta me...Firstly they fixed the route from Mahalaxmi to Bandra as elevated...Now they want to go underground again at mahim ?

Also if as according to mmrda they plan to start tendering any time now - how are they still fiddling with the alignment...

The extension to the airport was to be covered by the bkc - kanjurmarg line...How are they including it back again in this line ?

I guess...we need to just wait and see...

Actually two cities have metro running - Kolkata was the first city in India to have a metro. It is still running, as far as I know, and the last time I checked, Kolkata was a city and still in India, so that makes it two Indian cities with metro.

It's amazing the number of times this has to be pointed out in a forum like this. Newspapers/media make this mistake very often as well!

Plan for Colaba-Bandra link to pass below Mithi

MMRDA commissioner Ratnakar Gaikwad told TOI,We have to extend the Colaba-Bandra metro to the airport for better connectivity and constructing a tunnel under the Mithi is one option we are exploring,which is also recommended by the Delhi Metro Rail Corporation (DMRC) study.But we will analyse its techno-economic feasibility before taking a decision. MMRDA officials said it will be a tough task constructing a tunnel under the Mithi Rivers bed

I am hoping that means someone is sitting on the heads of the folks at MMRDA and making them see the sense for the u/g line. As far as technical feasibility is concerned, I think there are enough examples in the world of this being done. As an example, NYC's East River has depths of 36 feet to 71 feet at different points, and the river is spanned by no less than thirteen tunnels, some of them built in the 1920s. Mithi river has an average depth of 18ft at the center-line. Also, geologically, NYC is similar to Mumbai - there is bedrock immediately below the river-bed in both cities. I think there is not case for giving technical feasibility as an excuse. As far as the economics are concerned, it's not as if we don't have the money, it's whose pockets they fill in the end!


A senior planner in the railways said the six lines of the Western Railway corridor pass underneath and the MMRDA must take a great deal of care if they plan to dig a tunnel while taking the metro to Bandra East.

I think he means the metro line will pass underneath the 6 lines of the WR. :bash: Perhaps the IR's plans to build an elevated corridor on WR influenced the metro's decision to u/g ?


Environmentalists are not averse to the idea of the tunnel.Sanctuary Asias editor Bittu Sehgal said,Investments in the metro may sound expensive today,but in the longer run,provided the geological studies are properly done,the metro will prove cheaper and more climate friendly than the private car investments we are making. Rishi Agarwal of the Mangrove Society of India said,The tunnel will have to be built deep inside the crust.]

Somebody speaks some sense at last. Hope line 2 is made u/g as well.:cheers:

I am hoping that means someone is sitting on the heads of the folks at MMRDA and making them see the sense for the u/g line. As far as technical feasibility is concerned, I think there are enough examples in the world of this being done. As an example, NYC's East River has depths of 36 feet to 71 feet at different points, and the river is spanned by no less than thirteen tunnels, some of them built in the 1920s. Mithi river has an average depth of 18ft at the center-line. Also, geologically, NYC is similar to Mumbai - there is bedrock immediately below the river-bed in both cities. I think there is not case for giving technical feasibility as an excuse. As far as the economics are concerned, it's not as if we don't have the money, it's whose pockets they fill in the end!



I think he means the metro line will pass underneath the 6 lines of the WR. :bash: Perhaps the IR's plans to build an elevated corridor on WR influenced the metro's decision to u/g ?



Somebody speaks some sense at last. Hope line 2 is made u/g as well.:cheers:

I second those comments... they shud think long term... but i doubt if they will... it's simple... infra projects have huge money... it is very easy to bag sub contracting projects (even from first level bidders) in such humongous initiatives... or more likely the pple whose pockets they fill would refer their own into such deals... n then "their own" might not be technically adept or financially capable to handle an effort of this scale... is precisely when they give statements like not being technically or economically feasible... the day this breed (politicos) of Indians start thinking bout the country n the people, we know wat will happen... shud b close to the end of the world... :)

I am hoping that means someone is sitting on the heads of the folks at MMRDA and making them see the sense for the u/g line. As far as technical feasibility is concerned, I think there are enough examples in the world of this being done. As an example, NYC's East River has depths of 36 feet to 71 feet at different points, and the river is spanned by no less than thirteen tunnels, some of them built in the 1920s. Mithi river has an average depth of 18ft at the center-line. Also, geologically, NYC is similar to Mumbai - there is bedrock immediately below the river-bed in both cities. I think there is not case for giving technical feasibility as an excuse. As far as the economics are concerned, it's not as if we don't have the money, it's whose pockets they fill in the end!



I think he means the metro line will pass underneath the 6 lines of the WR. :bash: Perhaps the IR's plans to build an elevated corridor on WR influenced the metro's decision to u/g ?



Somebody speaks some sense at last. Hope line 2 is made u/g as well.:cheers:

yeah...exactly.......NYC is by far the global hub for very complex infrastructure......nd its totally sensible to go u/g in as many areas as possible in Mumbai as we know that Mumbai is not Delhi with wide lands nd broad roads - one can see the way the Metro One is coming up....when u see from above the metro viaduct has almost covered the whole airspace above the roads where it runs........u/g is complex nd costly but its the most judicious way of providing connectivity as well as saving space on the land above - as Mumbai is really short of space - imagine road widening in future on all stretches where metro is coming up would be near to impossible due to the elevated viaducts and station buildings every Kilometro or so :)

Very unrealistic plans these people are drawing up.

Metro will invade my privacy, says Amitabh Bachchan

Published: Tuesday, Aug 31, 2010,
Place: Mumbai DNA Mumbai

Bollywood megastar Amitabh Bachchan today lamented that the proposed metro rail segment passing by his home 'Prateeksha' in suburban Mumbai would invade his privacy, triggering sharp reactions from political parties.

"It is finally happening. The metro rail being laid over the metropolis called Mumbai, some under the ground, some above over large tracts of cement structures is taking shape. There is general happiness from the commuters, for, the misery of crowded locals and the uncertainties of the three-wheeler or the yellow-black cab shall hopefully be greatly reduced. But here is the killer! it's going to roll over Prateeksha! So bye bye privacy and hello fellow traveller," he wrote in his blog.

His remarks drew flak from political parties such as Shiv Sena, Congress and MNS.

more:
http://www.dnaindia.com/entertainment/report_metro-will-invade-my-privacy-says-amitabh-bachchan_1431714

Move somewhere in South Mumbai. Or get an apartment in a high end residential building.

screw u mr bachchan ji.... what about all the other people who will deal with the same thing, or whose business will be affected by this? you gotta stop fussing about nothing, just close the curtains i know you can afford them.

and build underground mmrda!!!!!!!!! why waste time with these issues?

Patil criticises Bachchan's Metro woes (http://ibnlive.in.com/news/patil-criticises-bachchans-metro-woes/130049-8-66.html?from=tn)

screw u mr bachchan ji.... what about all the other people who will deal with the same thing, or whose business will be affected by this? you gotta stop fussing about nothing, just close the curtains i know you can afford them.

and build underground mmrda!!!!!!!!! why waste time with these issues?

screw bachchan and then you say mmrda should build it u/g? :?

he hasnt said dont build it. he just said he will lose his privacy. which is true

it should go u/g in all congested areas and places where the road width is less than 6 proper lanes. this kind of short-sighted thinking will only lead to more problems while constructing it and also after its built. it also reduces the quality of living across large swathes of the city, thereby reducing its attractiveness for high end business and for high net worth individuals

Shahrukh khan has same issue of privacy,,,, he built big walls around his home. well u/g trains take lots of money, we cant just waste public money on such non-sense thing, if he has issue of his privacy, then should do it as khan did, or else he has option to go Navi Mumbai or some where, wherever less population is there, and enjoy being alone and enjoy his privacy. But wasting public money and time is certainly not good idea.

err, building u/g is not for just mr. bachchan's privacy. there are several good reasons why worldwide no city in the world builds anything but u/g in similarly congested localities

err, building u/g is not for just mr. bachchan's privacy. there are several good reasons why worldwide no city in the world builds anything but u/g in similarly congested localities

+1 , u/g metro should be promoted in congested areas , its not just for Mr. Amitabh Bachchan...If money is being spend..then spend it in a better way and with proper planning...Mumbai roads anyways need some breathing space...

it should go u/g in all congested areas and places where the road width is less than 6 proper lanes. this kind of short-sighted thinking will only lead to more problems while constructing it and also after its built. it also reduces the quality of living across large swathes of the city, thereby reducing its attractiveness for high end business and for high net worth individuals

err, building u/g is not for just mr. bachchan's privacy. there are several good reasons why worldwide no city in the world builds anything but u/g in similarly congested localities

+1 , u/g metro should be promoted in congested areas , its not just for Mr. Amitabh Bachchan...If money is being spend..then spend it in a better way and with proper planning...Mumbai roads anyways need some breathing space...

:yes::yes:

it should go u/g in all congested areas and places where the road width is less than 6 proper lanes

By that yardstick, all of the lines conceived so far should have been underground.

well u/g trains take lots of money, we cant just waste public money on such non-sense thing, if he has issue of his privacy

We are not proposing u/g for the sake of Mr. Bachchan u know.

By that yardstick, all of the lines conceived so far should have been underground.

the first one yes

parts of the second one yes

the third one yes

the others, most parts in the western suburbs and the island city yes. most parts in the eastern suburbs have wider roads

I would rather see them working first before talking so much shit.

On to other news...Looks like they will start civil works only in January.

http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news/to-save-time-on-rehab-bkckurla-metro-skips-slums-clusters/676045/


To save time on rehab, BKC-Kurla Metro skips slums clusters


Given the long delays faced by infrastructure projects
involving rehabilitation of slumdwellers in Mumbai, the Mumbai Metropolitan Region Development Authority (MMRDA) and the concessionaire for the city’s second metro rail corridor are realigning the route between Bandra Kurla Complex and Kurla railway station in a bid to avoid a large slum cluster in Kurla. With this diversion of around 1.4 km, one more station will have to be added to the route.

According to MMRDA, the challenge of rehabilitating the slum-dwellers was steeper than re-routing the corridor. The altered Charkop-Bandra-Mankhurd corridor will now take a detour via the Diamond Bourse at BKC, through the under-construction Santacruz-Chembur Link Road, and then to Kurla railway station where a metro station is proposed. “We have decided to take a diversion through the SCLR as it is a better option. It was an invisible link when the route was planned,” said Ratnakar Gaikwad, Metropolitan Commissioner. He added that SCLR will be completed by December 2011 and this will help provide east-west connectivity between from BKC to Kurla and then to Kurla Terminus and further on to Mankhurd via metro rail.

According to Mumbai Metro Transport Pvt. Ltd, the special purpose vehicle created for the second corridor stretching across 32 km, a substantial number of structures is affected by this metro corridor.

Several alterations in the alignment are now being taken up. G R Madan, Director of Mass Rapid Transit System (MRTS) with the MMRDA, said: “We are studying all options on how to avoid inconvenience to any structures along the corridor. We will try to alter alignment wherever possible.”

For K P Maheshwari, Director of MMTPL who is also working on the first metro corridor from Versova to Ghatkopar via Andheri, despite the challenges the second corridor is much easier to work on. “The main reason is that the roads are much wider along the CBM corridor. Also the experience that we carry from working on the first corridor is of much help,” Maheshwari said.

Meanwhile, with the detour planned by the MMRDA and the concessionaire, there will be an additional station on S G Barve Marg. “As the distance between the station at Diamond Bourse and the one near Kurla station will be around 2.2 km with the diversion, there is a station being planned on SG Barve Marg. The exact location is being discussed with the MMRDA,” Maheshwari added. This would be the 28th station along the corridor.

The construction of the corridor is expected to start by January, Maheshwari added.

On to other news...Looks like they will start civil works only in January.

http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news/to-save-time-on-rehab-bkckurla-metro-skips-slums-clusters/676045/


To save time on rehab, BKC-Kurla Metro skips slums clusters


Given the long delays faced by infrastructure projects
involving rehabilitation of slumdwellers in Mumbai, the Mumbai Metropolitan Region Development Authority (MMRDA) and the concessionaire for the city’s second metro rail corridor are realigning the route between Bandra Kurla Complex and Kurla railway station in a bid to avoid a large slum cluster in Kurla. With this diversion of around 1.4 km, one more station will have to be added to the route.

According to MMRDA, the challenge of rehabilitating the slum-dwellers was steeper than re-routing the corridor. The altered Charkop-Bandra-Mankhurd corridor will now take a detour via the Diamond Bourse at BKC, through the under-construction Santacruz-Chembur Link Road, and then to Kurla railway station where a metro station is proposed. “We have decided to take a diversion through the SCLR as it is a better option. It was an invisible link when the route was planned,” said Ratnakar Gaikwad, Metropolitan Commissioner. He added that SCLR will be completed by December 2011 and this will help provide east-west connectivity between from BKC to Kurla and then to Kurla Terminus and further on to Mankhurd via metro rail.

According to Mumbai Metro Transport Pvt. Ltd, the special purpose vehicle created for the second corridor stretching across 32 km, a substantial number of structures is affected by this metro corridor.

Several alterations in the alignment are now being taken up. G R Madan, Director of Mass Rapid Transit System (MRTS) with the MMRDA, said: “We are studying all options on how to avoid inconvenience to any structures along the corridor. We will try to alter alignment wherever possible.”

For K P Maheshwari, Director of MMTPL who is also working on the first metro corridor from Versova to Ghatkopar via Andheri, despite the challenges the second corridor is much easier to work on. “The main reason is that the roads are much wider along the CBM corridor. Also the experience that we carry from working on the first corridor is of much help,” Maheshwari said.

Meanwhile, with the detour planned by the MMRDA and the concessionaire, there will be an additional station on S G Barve Marg. “As the distance between the station at Diamond Bourse and the one near Kurla station will be around 2.2 km with the diversion, there is a station being planned on SG Barve Marg. The exact location is being discussed with the MMRDA,” Maheshwari added. This would be the 28th station along the corridor.

The construction of the corridor is expected to start by January, Maheshwari added.

I dont understand how you can change the alignemnt after a project has been awarded. Its 1.4 km, so its not like it is a small change. Should'nt that adversely affect the financial considerations ? Who foots the bill for costs emerging from the new alignment ? Most importantly, how the hell do they plan on beginning construction if the alignment is not yet completely finalized ?

I dont understand how you can change the alignemnt after a project has been awarded. Its 1.4 km, so its not like it is a small change. Should'nt that adversely affect the financial considerations ? Who foots the bill for costs emerging from the new alignment ? Most importantly, how the hell do they plan on beginning construction if the alignment is not yet completely finalized ?

Things can always be changed. They said it was an invisible link. Not sure what that means but one can theorize they studies this route and may have the engineering for it.

Rehabbing the slums may cost them more in time, effort and money than rerouting so it may not affect the financials that much.

Metro One to raise bar for Big B

Chittaranjan Tembhekar | TNN

Officials Offer To Put Barriers Along Train Tracks To Keep Out Peeping Toms And Sounds.

Mumbai: Amitabh Bachchans deep baritone has achieved what Lata Mangeshkars mellifluous voice could not.Stung by the opinion voiced by Big B about Mumbais Metro on his blog,officials have offered to put in features on train tracks to block out sights and sounds.

Senior MMRDA and Mumbai Metro One Pvt Ltd (MMOPL) officials told TOI on Wednesday that,if the government permits,they are willing to place view cutters along rail lines to prevent passengers from peering at passing buildings.View cutters are galvanized steel sheets that,when stuffed with a polystyrene-like material,also act as noise-barriers.Two months ago,the government had recommended their use on the Jacob Circle-Chembur Metro line to protect the security of Arthur Road jail.

On Saturday,Bachchan had created a minor political storm with a blog entry that many said was a broadside at the upcoming Metro.In his blog,Bachchan wrote: It is finally happening.The Metro rail being laid over the metropolis called Mumbai,some under the ground,some above over large tracts of cement structures is taking shape.There is general happiness from the commuters,for,the misery of crowded locals and the uncertainties of the three-wheeler or the yellow-black cab shall hopefully be greatly reduced.
But here is the killer! Its going to roll over Prateeksha! So bye bye privacy and hello fellow traveller.

The actor was cheered on by some residents of Juhu,Vile Parle and Bandra who,fearing for the privacy and quietude of their neighbourhoods,urged the administration to construct an underground Metro instead of an elevated one.
On Wednesday,MMOPL officials tried to allay Bachchan and other residents fears.They said the administration is already taking measures to ensure that the alternative to suburban railways and bus networks does not trouble the people living along the tracks.

On the Charkop-Bandra-Mankhurd and Versova-Ghatkopar lines,officials said they are putting elastomeric pads between the concrete structure and the tracks to reduce airborne noise and vibrations caused by the trains.They are also introducing flange lubrication into the trains wheels to preclude screeching noises made upon braking.Further,the rail tracks will have U-shaped concrete girders built alongside the tracks to contain the spread of noise.

MMOPL officials assured that these measures,along with the proposed view cutters,will leave all parties content.There were,however,sceptics.
An expert with the MMRDA said that barriers like view cutters will mar the citys streetscapes and the aesthetics of the Metro.

The Metro will finally reduce noise and air pollution since over 35% people travelling on the corridor will take the train instead of travelling in vehicles, the expert said.Besides,since a Metro passes a single point in just five seconds,it wont give enough view of the installations to passengers.Even a double-decker bus gives the view of a residential area.

ROLLING OUT NEW FEATURES

http://a.imageshack.us/img638/1595/pc0051800.jpg

1.FLANGE LUBRICATION

A lubricant injected into the wheels prevents the screeching noise they make when a train pulls to a stop

2.ELASTOMERIC PADS

Placed between the concrete structure and the tracks,these pads reduce the vibrations and airborne noise caused by trains

3.VIEW CUTTERS

Galvanized steel sheets block passengers from peering at passing structures and act as noise-barriers if a polystyrenelike material is sandwiched between two sheets

4.U-SHAPED GIRDERS

Built in the shape of a saucer and rising above the height of the trains wheels,the concrete girders along the viaduct disallow noise to spread.

more :
http://lite.epaper.timesofindia.com/getpage.aspx?pageid=5&pagesize=&edid=&edlabel=TOIM&mydateHid=02-09-2010&pubname=&edname=&publabel=TOI

^^
Is this because Amitabh Bachchan and Anil Ambani are friends :?

hmm thats nice solution..... keeping every body happy and keeping cost low.... :)

I dont understand how you can change the alignemnt after a project has been awarded. Its 1.4 km, so its not like it is a small change. Should'nt that adversely affect the financial considerations ? Who foots the bill for costs emerging from the new alignment ? Most importantly, how the hell do they plan on beginning construction if the alignment is not yet completely finalized ?

I am sure they discussed all of those questions and more. Of course it will affect financial considerations, but designs are not written in stone, and there are alterations made even during the construction phase.

Besides, constructions are done in phases, with various milestones involved. If one part of the project is altered, it shouldn't necessary mean they can't start work on the civil work and bringing together the resources.

I think its a wise move they are avoiding the slum clusters.....

The project will grind to a halt with those slums and their NGO friends. Very wise move.


As far as I am aware BKC road is very wide, enough for there not to be issues in that area....


Kurla is the biggest issue. Chemubur side not many slums.

I think its a wise move they are avoiding the slum clusters.....

The project will grind to a halt with those slums and their NGO friends. Very wise move.



+1

Guys this is my first post so dont be so harsh on me if I have made any mistakes in posting the pics in d right way...

These are the pics that I took last week on my way to the airport.

this one near WEH towards marol.

http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/98/26082010013b.jpg

these are the pics between WEH and Marol

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/623/26082010015.jpg

http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/3721/26082010016m.jpg

http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/3435/26082010017.jpg

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/1756/26082010019.jpg

http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/3735/26082010020q.jpg

Took this pic at the WEH signal. The big piller that you can see is on the Western side of the WEH on which the cable stayed bridge will be built. In the background one can also see the WEH station under construction.

http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/1/26082010029.jpg

http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/812/26082010030r.jpg

This is the under construction pillar on the Eastern side of the WEH.

http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/8640/26082010031.jpg

Wow Irfan , thats quite a start you made. Six off the first ball. These are excellent pictures and much needed update on WEH side development of MM.

Welcome to SSC !. Have fun

Wow Irfan , thats quite a start you made. Six off the first ball. These are excellent pictures and much needed update on WEH side development of MM.

Welcome to SSC !. Have fun

+1. keep posting :)

^^

+1. Great work, Irfan :cheers:

much needed pictorial updates. nice work. :)

Wow Irfan , thats quite a start you made. Six off the first ball. These are excellent pictures and much needed update on WEH side development of MM.

Welcome to SSC !. Have fun

+11111 great irfan,, :cheers:

Nice pics Irfan. :banana:
Keep posting more pics.

Fuwad and CoolGuyz: You now have Irfan as company in the picture posting department on the Mumbai threads.

That pillar is the one which will be the base on eastern side for the cable stay.

http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/812/26082010030r.jpg

The whole view looks quite awesome from on top of the flyover shown in the pic.

Good work irfan.

hmm thats nice solution..... keeping every body happy and keeping cost low.... :)

Nooooo.. it will look ugly. You won't be able to even see the trains passing while standing on road. The viaduct will look like a dead, discarded, motionless structure.

Nooooo.. it will look ugly. You won't be able to even see the trains passing while standing on road. The viaduct will look like a dead, discarded, motionless structure.


as opposed to all the other structures in the country which walk around wherever they want :P

as opposed to all the other structures in the country which walk around wherever they want :P
Hehe good one....

Nooooo.. it will look ugly. You won't be able to even see the trains passing while standing on road. The viaduct will look like a dead, discarded, motionless structure.

hehehe, people who fear to miss sound/motion/action n whatever, for them Mumbai local will fulfill there wishes, always hhheheh :lol:

hehehe, people who fear to miss sound/motion/action n whatever, for them Mumbai local will fulfill there wishes, always hhheheh :lol:
ROFL .. Good one buddy...

sorry to be dull but when it due to open 2011?
threads to big to find the info
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Patil criticises Bachchan's Metro woes (http://ibnlive.in.com/news/patil-criticises-bachchans-metro-woes/130049-8-66.html?from=tn)

Nowhere does Mr Bacchan say that he is opposed to the project. He says that commuters will be happy and that he will lose privacy. Those two things are "facts".

This is what he said:

"It is finally happening. The metro rail being laid over the metropolis called Mumbai, some under the ground, some above over large tracts of cement structures is taking shape. There is general happiness from the commuters, for, the misery of crowded locals and the uncertainties of the three wheeler or the yellow black cab shall hopefully be greatly reduced. But here is the killer .. its going to roll over Prateeksha !! Yesterday the authorities came over to check externally the structural condition of all houses that would get affected by the rail car moving in its proximity and they came into Prateeksha. So bye bye privacy and hello fellow traveller."

I think the media just spinned his statement with some controversial headlines to get some masala attention.

And then our politicians did what they do best - do bhashanbaji. They probably didn't even read the statement properly.

^^

+1.

^^It was still insenstitive:nuts:

Nowhere does Mr Bacchan say that he is opposed to the project. He says that commuters will be happy and that he will lose privacy. Those two things are "facts".

This is what he said:

"It is finally happening. The metro rail being laid over the metropolis called Mumbai, some under the ground, some above over large tracts of cement structures is taking shape. There is general happiness from the commuters, for, the misery of crowded locals and the uncertainties of the three wheeler or the yellow black cab shall hopefully be greatly reduced. But here is the killer .. its going to roll over Prateeksha !! Yesterday the authorities came over to check externally the structural condition of all houses that would get affected by the rail car moving in its proximity and they came into Prateeksha. So bye bye privacy and hello fellow traveller."

I think the media just spinned his statement with some controversial headlines to get some masala attention.

And then our politicians did what they do best - do bhashanbaji. They probably didn't even read the statement properly.

Near Andheri Sports Complex
http://a.imageshack.us/img337/277/dsc00253m.jpg

Nice pic. Good to see the viaduct fully complete here :cheers:

Hopefully the Versova-Andheri section will open by late 2010 or early 2011? How are the stations on this stretch coming along?

After Big B blog, MMRDA to connect with celebrities

Published: Monday, Sep 6, 2010
By Ninad Siddhaye | Place: Mumbai | Agency: DNA

Actor Amitabh Bachchan’s blog posting criticising the metro line running close to his home in Bandra has stirred officials of the Mumbai Metropolitan Region Development Authority (MMRDA) into action. They are contemplating to connect more with the famous residents along the metro rail’s alignment, passing through Linking Road and SV Road in the western suburbs, to allay fears about the project.

“We were shocked to see the reactions after the metro was written about in the blog. There will certainly not be any change in the alignment, but we are planning to take the residents into confidence while carrying out the work,” metropolitan commissioner Ratnakar Gaikwad said.

The authority will make residents aware of the metro alignment passing through their area. “As the first line is nearing completion and work for the second line gears up, more and more people are naturally bound to get worried,’’ Gaikwad added.

Officials are planning to conduct meetings with residents and they would answer all the queries about the metro, he said.

According to MMRDA spokesperson Dilip Kawathkar, there were many challenges in the metro rail project. “Mumbai has a population density of about 30,000 per sq km. The total length of Metro rail will be more than 145 km. There are many schools, colleges and hospitals in the vicinity of the project and in future, more such institutions may come up alongside the project. We had to emphasise on the technology which would provide excellent services to the commuters along with least possible disturbances. Hence it has been decided to install elastomeric pads, which control the noise level of the running train,” said Kawathkar.

Under this technology, elastomeric pads are installed between concrete structures and metro train tracks. “This helps in reducing vibrations and noise. This technology is used globally in many industries, including railway tracks, railway bridges and constructions,” he added.

http://www.dnaindia.com/mumbai/report_after-big-b-blog-mmrda-to-connect-with-celebrities_1434015

Foreign head for metro operations

Published: Monday, Sep 6, 2010
By Ninad Siddhaye | Place: Mumbai | Agency: DNA

The MMRDA will be soon get ready to welcome its first foreign employee. According to metropolitan commissioner Ratnakar Gaikwad, the expert, who will be appointed very soon, will be in charge of coordinating the entire metro rail network in the Mumbai Metropolitan Region.

“We have to hire a foreign national, since the expert has to have a huge amount of experience in dealing with all the aspects of running the metro in a metropolis. The person will not only deal with the day-to-day operations but will also be responsible for the setting up of the network,” said Gaikwad.

The authority has so far hired retired officials who previously held key positions in the Railways. There has been a special official hired for looking after the first alignment (SP Khade) and a senior Indian Railway Service (IRS) official (GR Madan) has been heading the planning for the Mass Rapid Transit System.

http://www.dnaindia.com/mumbai/report_foreign-head-for-metro-operations_1433973

Design Study for CSR Puzhen rolling stock for Mumbai Metro


http://a.imageshack.us/img267/8088/mumbaimetro.jpg

September 6, 2010
CSR Nanjing Puzhen Rolling Stock Co., Ltd, a Chinese rolling stock manufacturer within China Southern Rolling stock group contacted MBD DESIGN to conduct a design study on Mumbai metro Line 1.

It is the first metro train to be built in China for the Indian market and the first Chinese export of this kind of high capacity coaches.

The livery is illustrated with shimmering patterns as those that can be found in India. The graphics around the doors remind of modern architecture while being functional: their rhythms and their locations reinforce the access doors identification.

The front end is welcoming and cheerful. The headlights are enhanced as groomed and smiling eyes.

As of the interior, the agency opted for a choice of attractive and refreshing colors.

The coaches atmosphere finds its identity in the presence of original components such as the circular grabbing bars located on the ceiling in front of the doors as well as on the use of an innovative rubber flooring material with decorative patterns. Both allow a clear definition of the standing and seating passenger areas. The seats ends are colored in blue, color of the operator.

The overall feeling gives an impression of modernity, cleanliness and cheerfulness. The trains started to operate in Mumbai in spring 2010.

http://rail-news.com/2010/09/06/design-study-for-csr-puzhen-rolling-stock-for-mumbai-metro/

^^Spring 2010 !!:nuts::bash:

Its almost Autumn 2010 and still a long way 2 go.. Where r all the Lame claims that Mumbai project is going much faster than DMRC ...or is it just a hype!:ohno:

Also wouldn't call it 'stunning' to look at but compared with the DMRC standard gauge ...its more satisfying 4 sure!

nice pic,,, love it :)

Also wouldn't call it 'stunning' to look at but compared with the DMRC standard gauge ...its more satisfying 4 sure!

Don't take Delhi metro's SG trains as benchmark as they are one of the worst looking trains.

I like Mumbai's trains.

Don't take Delhi metro's SG trains as benchmark as they are one of the worst looking trains.

I like Mumbai's trains.

Why are Delhi Metro's SG trains the worst looking? They are not "that" different from the BG ones anyways! The SG faces could have been a bit more aerodynamic but the interiors are pretty good. And Quality wise, I think they are somehow much better than the recently delivered Bombardier trains. [Btw, Mitsubishi Rotem trains after all these years, are still as sturdy as they were 7 years ago, only they need to change the dead bulbs].

There is always a scope for improvement for the next time. Benchmarks should any which way followed for the quality of the work and not the looks for the most of it.

Why are Delhi Metro's SG trains the worst looking? They are not "that" different from the BG ones anyways! The SG faces could have been a bit more aerodynamic but the interiors are pretty good. And Quality wise, I think they are somehow much better than the recently delivered Bombardier trains. [Btw, Mitsubishi Rotem trains after all these years, are still as sturdy as they were 7 years ago, only they need to change the dead bulbs].

There is always a scope for improvement for the next time. Benchmarks should any which way followed for the quality of the work and not the looks for the most of it.

he is not comparing quality, he is comparing looks :)

he is not comparing quality, he is comparing looks :)

You are right. He was expressing his opinion. But they are definitely not the worst looking as said. In fact I find the new SG trains cute. Anyhow, to each his own. Cheers!

You are right. He was expressing his opinion. But they are definitely not the worst looking as said. In fact I find the new SG trains cute. Anyhow, to each his own. Cheers!

yes, they are not that worst looking if I compare them with newyorks tin dabbas

he is not comparing quality, he is comparing looks :)

+1. And that too external one.

@downunder1 : Those tubes are not dead. In elevated lines, half of the tubes are deliberately kept off because of outside lighting. The same trains have all tubes working when they run underground.

You will notice that when a train enters a viaduct from a tunnel, half of the lights go off and vice versa.

yes, they are not that worst looking if I compare them with newyorks tin dabbas

Oh, I forgot those dibbe. I take back the ugliest part but still I will call them ugly (reg. exterior looks).

Only if all the new SG Metro trains of India would look atleast like this one in the picture of..The Beijing Metro !!:)

Just a small design change of the Front 'Face' makes such a BIG difference !!:nuts:

http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/1088/bm1k.jpg

looks like some made in china crap, about to fall apart at any second.......

+1. And that too external one.

@downunder1 : Those tubes are not dead. In elevated lines, half of the tubes are deliberately kept off because of outside lighting. The same trains have all tubes working when they run underground.

You will notice that when a train enters a viaduct from a tunnel, half of the lights go off and vice versa

My first hand experience with the old Mitsubishi trains today. The coach I was traveling, intially just one out of five tube bulbs were lit. Before entering the tunnel, only a few came back on, most of them remained dead. Also, a few of them were only "half" in their intensity. They are the old style Tube bulbs, have outlived their capacity. On the contrary, in the Bombardier trains, alternate set of tubes were lit or dead and they were all lit up before entering the tunnel. So yeah, old vs the new!

Hiring & training of Metro drivers to begin by yr-end

Swapnil Rawal
Thu Sep 09 2010
The process of recruiting and training a fleet of 50 drivers to operate the city’s first Metro rail corridor would begin by the year-end by the Operations and Maintenance in-charge, Veolia Transport. The 11.4-km Metro rail corridor from Versova to Ghatkopar via Andheri is expected to be commissioned by June next year.


Mumbai Metro One Pvt Ltd, the special purpose vehicle created for the construction of the corridor, will procure 18 rakes eventually—four of which have already been delivered from the manufacturer in China. “Initially we would be recruiting the trainers who would train the candidates for the job of driver. The training for the drivers would start by the year end. MMOPL is expecting to gradually recruit a team of total 50 drivers well before the start of the system,” said K P Maheshwari, Director MMOPL. He added that the trainers shall undergo the training within India and abroad for imbibing the best practices of the industry.

Metro rail operators will be looking for candidates with a technical background—diploma from polytechnic or Bachelor of Science (BSc). “The driver’s recruitment would be made through well laid criteria. The candidates should have a technical academic background. Our endeavor is to make a mix team with people coming from similar background, defence background and even the fresh pass outs. The candidates need to understand the technicals,” Maheshwari said.


He added, “Drivers play a vital role for the operational safety of the system. The selection process would be stringent. It would include the evaluation of technical acumen, general aptitude, behavioral and psychological aspects. Once through with the above process, the candidate would go through a stringent medical examination for establishing the fitness for the job. The medical selection is based on the criteria; having a specific height, neither too short nor to tall so as to properly drive the train and access all the controls in the driver’s cabin, as the train is designed considering the height span between female and male as per Indian Anthropometric Data. Also perfect vision and free from colour blindness is another vital criteria for selection of the drivers.”


According to Maheshwari, the drivers would be trained on a simulator especially built for Mumbai Metro. The driver training sessions would include examinations and certifications. “The recruitment process would be meticulous sessions of classroom and on the field trainings. The training of the drivers shall last for three to four months. The simulator will have exact controls and features as available on the actual train. Only after having trained on the simulator, the drivers shall run the actual trains,” Maheshwari added.

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/hiring-&-training-of-metro-drivers-to-begin-by-yrend/679387/0

MMRDA identifies mass transport potentials of city Express Highways

India Infoline News Service, Sep 09, 2010

The Mumbai Metropolitan Region Development Authority (MMRDA) is considering possibilities of turning the city Express Highways into the core hub of Mass Rapid Transportation System for Mumbai, clubbing the spacious roads with future metro rail lines and special dedicated bus lanes.

The uni-directional commuters’ flow, a bane for the city traffic may turn into boom with the straight Western Express Highway from Mahim to Mira Road and Eastern Express Highway from Sion to Thane. As the report of special committee on Bus Rapid Transport System (BRTS), under which the BEST buses will run every thirty seconds in dedicated lanes on Western Express Highway, is expected to be submitted soon, the MMRDA is also considering the future metro rail routes alongside the WEH and EEH.

Joint Project Director (PR), MMRDA, Dilip Kawathkar said, “Our experts have envisioned the infrastructure needs of beyond 5 years and more in these projects. Cutting complex corners of land acquisition and facilities for installing projects, these highways pose tremendous opportunities for solving the city’s commutation problems. We will soon come out with further details on how these two different plans can be assimilated efficiently.

http://www.indiainfoline.com/Markets/News/MMRDA-identifies-mass-transport-potentials-of-city-Express-Highways/4928284900

I identify MMRDA as a potential screwed up organization.

:lol:

the stations can be built in the middle of the highway!

Mumbai Metro fares to be worlds cheapest

Ashley DMello I TNN 11-09-2010

Mumbai: The Mumbai Metro Rail will have one of the cheapest fares compared to 11 of the most prominent Metro rail services across the world.The fares for the first Metro corridor from Versova-Andheri-Ghatkopar (VAG),which will be ready next year,will range between Rs 6 and Rs 10.And fares for even the second Metro Rail corridor from Charkop to Mankhurd will range from Rs 8 to Rs 24.

Citing fares in other countries,Mumbai Metropolitan Region Development Authority (MMRDA) officials said that the Beijing Metro charges a minimum of RMB 2 (Rs 14) while the cheapest entry ticket for the Hong Kong Metro is 4 HK dollars (Rs 24) (See Box).MMRDA commissioner Ratnakar Gaikwad said that for the VAG corridor,the charges will be Rs 6 up to the first 3 km,Rs 8 for 3-8 km and Rs 10 for more than 8 km.

He said the fare for the Charkop-Bandra-Mankhurd corridor will be Rs 8 for the first 3 km,Rs 10 for 3 to 8 km,Rs 12 for 8 to 12 km,Rs 14 for 12 to 15 km,Rs 17 for 15 to 20 km,Rs 20 for 20 to 25 km,Rs 22 for 25 to 30 km and Rs 24 for more than 30 km.Director of Mumbai Metro One,K P Maheshwari,said the fares for the first line would remain the same for three years.After three years,we can increase it by only 11%, he added.

However,transport circles state that the fares will be higher than that of suburban trains.The statement that the fares are the cheapest in the world are also relative as it does not take into consideration the purchasing power of the rupee.

RATE CARD

Beijing Metro RMB 2 (Rs 14)

Hong Kong Metro $4 HK (Rs 24)

Moscow Metro 26 rubles (Rs 40)

Seoul Metro 1,000 won (Rs 40)

Madrid Metro 1 (Rs 60)

Tokyo Metro 160 Yen (Rs 90)

Paris Metro 1.60 (Rs 95)

New York Metro $2.25 (Rs 101)

Montreal Metro $2.75 (Rs 120)

London Metro 1.80 (Rs 130)

Mumbai Metro I 6

Mumbai Metro II 8

*Minimum fare

http://lite.epaper.timesofindia.com/getpage.aspx?pageid=12&pagesize=&edid=&edlabel=TOIM&mydateHid=11-09-2010&pubname=&edname=&publabel=TOI

^^ They have compared it with all the metros in the world , but they havennt compared with the metros in India . I know the minimum fare for delhi Metro is Rs 8 . What is the minimum rate for the Kolkata metro ?

pointless anyways. you need to compare fares as a percentage of average daily income. bombay might well be one of the most expensive then, thanks to our low per capita income

Mumbai Metro fares to be worlds cheapest


great to know, this will make metro successful, but crowdy and surely profitable, which will clear future expansion issues. :)

It's pretty affordable I would say....

pointless anyways. you need to compare fares as a percentage of average daily income. bombay might well be one of the most expensive then, thanks to our low per capita income

Mumbai has low per capita income compare to other metro's/big cities in India?

if yes then I think u have wrong impression, Mumbai has second highest per capita income. i.e INR 128,000 (US$2,780) (2008-2009)

http://businesstoday.intoday.in/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=11655&issueid=19&sectionid=22
http://trendsniff.com/2008/09/28/indias-prosperous-cities-with-high-per-capita-income/
http://www.livemint.com/2009/08/03224002/India-needs-cities-network-for.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mumbai

Mumbai has low per capita income compare to other metro's/big cities in India?

if yes then I think u have wrong impression, Mumbai has second highest per capita income. i.e INR 128,000 (US$2,780) (2008-2009)

http://businesstoday.intoday.in/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=11655&issueid=19&sectionid=22
http://trendsniff.com/2008/09/28/indias-prosperous-cities-with-high-per-capita-income/
http://www.livemint.com/2009/08/03224002/India-needs-cities-network-for.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mumbai

i am talking about bombay compared to other world cities, which is what the article did

Sakinaka to WEH

Towards Ghatkopar at Sakinaka
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/5156/dsc00283m.jpg

Towards WEH at Sakinaka
http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/4421/dsc00286bx.jpg

Lot of incomplete work
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/3126/dsc00284te.jpg
http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/3910/dsc00288h.jpg
Some completed work
http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/1806/dsc00287j.jpg

http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/6876/dsc00290jv.jpg

Some station pillars near JB Nagar
http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/6959/dsc00292jo.jpg

A pillar at a square
http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/8250/dsc00293p.jpg

http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/4650/dsc00294t.jpg

http://img541.imageshack.us/img541/9166/dsc00295y.jpg

Tree growing within the construction area!
http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/4290/dsc00297a.jpg

WEH station (i think). this pic is oriented towards Sakinaka
http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/2753/1000016l.jpg
http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/6181/1000017x.jpg

Some tall pillars
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/329/1000018z.jpg
and completed stretches
http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/883/1000020t.jpg


Crossover pillars across WEH
http://a.imageshack.us/img34/9720/dsc00305x.jpg
http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/9784/dsc00307mi.jpg

Some pics at Andheri West
http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/5717/dsc00312ie.jpg
http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/8372/dsc00314ts.jpg
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/8323/dsc00313n.jpg

^^ good pics kalpk

btw the construction quality looks cheap :ohno:

Those r very nice updates indeed..

It always seems a bit chaotic, bad n messy during construction phase..but once the operations start..its a different story..everything falls in place.case in point is DMRC..

KalpK M8, How many lines r UC right now in M.Metro Network n which line are these pics from ??

^^ good pics kalpk

btw the construction quality looks cheap :ohno:
That's common across all Metro systems in the country..

Thanks for the pics :cheers: Looks like a long way to go still for even the civil work to be complete :ohno:

How many lines r UC right now in M.Metro Network n which line are these pics from ??

Only one line is U/C at present (Line 1, Versova-Ghatkopar), so all these pics must be from there.

That's common across all Metro systems in the country..

+1, its common across all metro system in country.

Partly blame it on the incessant rains. 330 cms in 3 months!

Mumbai has to do a coating on its pillars given the amount of rainfall it receives. Else it will look like a huge black monster in few years as we know there will not be any maintenance (atleast for the pillars) once the construction is over.

Excellent pics KalpK. Thanks for the update.
Looking at the pics it does not look like commercial metro operations will begin before Q1-Q2 of 2012. A large amount of the work still looks pending. A major hindrance to commercial could be the bridge across the WE highway itself. They might have some test runs by end of 2011.