Mumbai Metro Updates [Archive] - Page 5

jubin

March 29th, 2009, 10:45 PM

Metro II: residents’ proposal for underground stretch under scrutiny (http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news/metro-ii-residents-proposal-for-underground-stretch-under-scrutiny/440405/)

The nodal agency for the implementation of the second metro rail corridor has sent the proposal for an underground stretch between Andheri and Bandra, presented by residents protesting against the project, for evaluation by an independent consultant.
The “conceptual plan” proposes an underground section of the Charkop-Bandra-Mankhurd corridor from ESIC Nagar in Andheri to Bandra.

According to these citizen activists, the over-ground metro corridor will affect hundreds of structures. The Mumbai Metropolitan Region Development Authority has asked an independent consultant to scrutinise the plan before forwarding it to the Delhi Metro Rail Corporation, its principal consultant.

“We’ve asked Louis Berger Group to scrutinise the plan. They will come up with a feasibility report,” said Ratnakar Gaikwad, Metropolitan Commissioner. The study will look into the technical feasibility, financial viability and the impact of the alternative design on the pace of implementation of the corridor.

The economic slump has affected the implementation of the 32-km corridor as none of the seven interested consortia had submitted financial bids for the Rs 6,192-crore project. However, the MMRDA is hopeful of getting a few responses by April 30, the fourth extended date to submit bids. The MMRDA is also contemplating to fund the project in case no bidders come forward.

On the other hand, the residents of areas like JVPD, Santacruz, Khar and Linking Road are conducting their own detailed study into the plan proposed by their core committee. “We’re conducting our own detailed micro plan for the eight-km underground stretch in association with IIT, Mumbai,” said Nitin Killawala, member of the residents’ committee.

According to them, an elevated metro corridor will affect hundreds of structures. “As per our calculation, from ESIC Nagar to Bandra, there are over 153 structures that will be affected. At some places, the staircases marked on maps of the planning agency fall in the frontage of the buildings or commercial structures,” said Killawala, who is also an architect.

The residents want the government to scrap the tendering process and come up with another funding model and incorporate the underground section. “The MMRDA has sent us a letter saying that its consultants are evaluating the proposed plan, but it hasn’t given us any time frame within which it will be done. The MMRDA should discontinue the bidding process for the time being,” Killawala said.

According to him, the MMRDA is avoiding the underground section mainly owing to its cost factor, but it is neglecting the social cost an elevated corridor will incur.

bhargavsura

March 31st, 2009, 03:46 PM

Metro Rail work stopped at Andheri

Underground utilities are delaying the Mumbai metro rail project between Andheri (W) and Versova along Jai Prakash Road. The underground cables, water mains and sewer lines are nearly 100 years old and are buried nearly 30 feet below the ground.

Work at Manish Nagar in Andheri (W) was temporary halted after Mumbai Metro One Pvt. Ltd. (MMOPL) "executing the Versova-Andheri-Ghatkopar corridor" struck a rusted sewer line damaging the flow.

An official from Reliance Infrastructure Ltd (RInfra) said, "Our utility mapping device didn't detect it as it is so deep. But we will restore the damaged network with the help of BMC within 4-5 days."

This, however, has severely affected the traffic movement in the area as vehicles are stuck for long durations.

Source: Mid-day

sgups

March 31st, 2009, 05:08 PM

err..don't they get maps from BMC or other utility companies?

qwertyasd

March 31st, 2009, 05:31 PM

err..don't they get maps from BMC or other utility companies?

welcome to a third world country! :ohno::ohno:

Bombay Boy

March 31st, 2009, 08:25 PM

the bmc hardly knows where its lines are. there was some major water pipeline they discovered a few years back while digging a road. it was lying unused for decades and it was a real 'oops' moment when they realised it would solve a lot of water problems in the area. they went ahead and then connected it to the mains. only a few decades late

jubin

April 1st, 2009, 09:56 PM

Mumbai’s Metro project: time for normative pricing rules? (http://www.livemint.com/2009/04/01220207/The-Capitalist--Mumbai8217.html)

The construction of Metro railway in Mumbai was initially expected to cost around Rs214 crore per km. Nobody bothered about the price till media reports gave out the project cost of a consortium headed by Maytas Infra Ltd—promoted by the family of fraud-hit Satyam Computer Services Ltd founder B. Ramalinga Raju—for the Hyderabad Metro rail project.

It was found that Maytas’ costs were Rs174 crore per km for the Hyderabad project, much lower than the project cost of Mumbai Metro but higher than the Delhi Metro Rail Corp. Ltd’s (DMRC) Rs162 crore per km. Since Delhi was the first city rail project of its kind in India, costs were expected to be high. Experience gained from the first project always allows lower costs in subsequent projects.

Mumbai’s proposed costs were shocking. The anger and protests following Maytas’ disclosures—and Mumbai’s rip-off proposed costs—appear to have borne fruit. The costs disclosed last month by the Mumbai Metropolitan Regional Development Authority (MMRDA) for its Metro project now appear to be more reasonable than those of Maytas and lower than those of Delhi. But with steel prices having halved since then and finance costs tumbling, Mumbai’s costs should have been at least 25% lower than DMRC’s.
According to MMRDA, while the first phase has been given under the public-private partnership (PPP) scheme, the other two phases may not adopt the same route because of growing disenchantment with PPP and also because of the way it was abused in the Maytas proposal. But rejecting the PPP route may not be the best solution.

Public utility pricing and PPP
Till now, a big champion of the PPP route has been Infrastructure Leasing and Financial Services Ltd (IL&FS), which has spearheaded private investment in infrastructure. It is backed by the Planning Commission which continues to support the PPP route for infrastructure development.
It now appears that most IL&FS-backed projects have tended to inflate costs. Disclosures about the Maytas’ Hyderabad Metro costs—coupled with news about how tenders for ambulances for the Emergency Access Foundation, also promoted by the Satyam group, were cleverly structured—have clouded perceptions about PPPs and IL&FS.
A letter written by DMRC chief E. Sreedharan to the Planning Commission, expressing grave reservations about PPP in the Hyderabad project, further aggravated the situation. True, the planning body ticked off Sreedharan for his letter, but his charges have stuck. There now appears to be a lot of soul-searching about the price state governments ought to pay for infrastructure projects.
The Hyderabad Metro project allowed for a cost of Rs174 crore per km even though it was higher than DMRC’s costs.
People close to IL&FS privately say that DMRC’s own quote for the project was around Rs240 crore per km. While this could not be independently verified, the fact is that nobody adopted a normative pricing policy. IL&FS could have done this easily, first, because it has experience in infrastructure costing, and second, because, according to submissions before the Company Law Board (CLB), IL&FS controls a 37% equity holding in Maytas, even though it directly controls just 14.4%. Not surprisingly, CLB refused to allow IL&FS a seat on Maytas’ reconstituted board on grounds that such a seat would pose a conflict of interest.
All this raises a fundamental question: Can any government award an infrastructure project to a private party merely on the basis of the bids it receives? Shouldn’t there be a ceiling price indicator based on some normative pricing parameters?
After all, infrastructure is an inescapable monopoly, and its cost is always paid by citizens through tolls, tickets and tariffs. Their interests need to be protected.
Ideally, the state should have stated that since DMRC had managed to build an excellent facility at Rs161 crore per km, the project would be offered to any party that could better this price. Now with Reliance Infrastructure Ltd quoting a lower price of Rs127 crore per km for Delhi Metro’s airport link, this should become the new normative price benchmark.
Without such a regulatory framework involving normative pricing rules and a cap on what should be charged to common folk, the entire exercise can become a collusive deal between the government and private business.
PPP is welcome. It allows for private funds to finance infrastructure building. The danger lies in (a) not adopting caps on costs, and (b) finding excuses for allowing further increases in costs after a project has been awarded. A way to counter this could be to set stiff penalties for the planners and revocation of bank guarantees for the investors if costs are upwardly revised after contracts have been awarded.
Hopefully, some PPP norms may be revised and fiscal prudence get the respect it deserves.

jubin

April 3rd, 2009, 07:35 PM

With IIT help, locals now study feasibility of proposed underground metro route (http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news/with-iit-help-locals-now-study-feasibility-of-proposed-underground-metro-route/442573/)

Mumbai The residents opposing the elevated Charkop-Bandra-Mankhurd Metro corridor are conducting their own feasibility study of the proposed underground stretch between Andheri and Bandra with the help of the Indian Institute of Technology, Bombay (IIT-B).

The Mumbai Metropolitan Region Development Authority (MMRDA), the nodal agency for the implementation of the Mumbai Metro Rail Project, is also examining the proposed underground stretch.

The ‘conceptual plan’ by the citizen’s group named Metro Rail Forum proposes an underground section of the Charkop-Bandra-Mankhurd corridor from ESIC Nagar in Andheri to Bandra. “We’re conducting our own detailed feasibility study for the proposed underground stretch with the help of IIT-Bombay,” said P K Das, urban planner and eminent architect, who prepared the alternate route.

The study looks into the entire 32-km corridor and is expected to be complete by mid-May. S L Dhingra, professor with IIT’s Civil Engineering Department, said that the study would be a comparative one looking at the cost and benefits of an underground corridor over the elevated one. “The government has ignored the social cost while planning the metro corridors. The study would try and quantify the various hassles the government or the concessionaire has to go through while utility shifting, procuring land, rehabilitation, etc., when an elevated corridor is constructed unlike in the case of an underground one,” Dhingra said.

The residents said they do not want another prolonged delay like in the case of the Bandra-Worli Sea Link, which is even after eight years still under construction.

The residents are demanding that the MMRDA should immediately stay the elevated metro rail route and suspend the bidding process. “How can we accept our suburbs to be turned into a depressed basement with concrete structures running over our heads? We are all struggling to expand our open spaces, fight visual clutter and physical congestion to lead a life without being choked with more and more construction and anarchic growth. The elevated metro will further our crisis,” said Sherley Singh, a Juhu resident and member of the forum.

Another member of the forum, Shyama Kulkarni, said: “The citizens of suburbs are being given step-motherly treatment by the government. Chief Minister Ashok Chavan calls up the authorities concerned to stop the work on Peddar Road, but will not intervene in the case of the metro rail, which has so many issues.”

The members of the forum also plan to take the protest to the next level if their demands are not met. “We will file a Public Interest Litigation (PIL), and intensify protest by involving political representatives to support the alternate plan,” Das said.

skganji

April 3rd, 2009, 10:45 PM

Does any body know why the Pillars for Mumbai Metro are slimmer than the pillars for Delhi Metro ?.

jubin

April 3rd, 2009, 11:19 PM

Does any body know why the Pillars for Mumbai Metro are slimmer than the pillars for Delhi Metro ?.

dude, bombay being the media/movie capital you gotta look svelte :wink2:

sammyk

April 4th, 2009, 01:25 AM

Does any body know why the Pillars for Mumbai Metro are slimmer than the pillars for Delhi Metro ?.

Could have to do with soil, depth of bedrock, etc.

bhargavsura

April 6th, 2009, 01:00 PM

http://epaper.hindustantimes.com/Web/HTMumbai/Article/2009/04/03/005/03_04_2009_005_002.jpg

Source: Hindustan Times

A couple of days old news. Didn't find it posted here. So posting.

EMP

April 6th, 2009, 01:19 PM

bhargavsura

April 6th, 2009, 01:20 PM

Overhead would lead to unimaginable traffic chaos as always.

Bombay Boy

April 6th, 2009, 02:01 PM

In the above post everything is mentioned including pics except the difference in cost and time of construction....The cost of building underground metro would make it unfeasible and it will significantly increase the time of construction as well....Its better to have it overground metro than not to have it at all....

overall costs of the two would not be too different if you factor in rehabilitation, demolition of existing structures, re-routing and resurfacing of roads, shifting of underground utilities, etc

not to mention long term costs like increased pollution at the street (noise, visual, ect), narrowing of roads, depression of real estate value, etc

overhead is fine in sparsely populated cities with low ridership and broad avenues. in a densely packed, high usage city with congested roads an elevated system is more expensive financially and socially

mipalermo

April 19th, 2009, 09:19 PM

underground in my opinion is better ,in other cities all infrastructures that have been built above had to be demolished and buried to recoup the lost city.

mipalermo

April 19th, 2009, 09:22 PM

did you think that this land could be good for an intermodal station?

http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/6586/copy2of1lq5.jpg

niknak

April 26th, 2009, 08:08 AM

So what's the status of Charkop - Bandra - Mankhurd & Bandra - Colaba.

Both of these were supposed to be completed by 2011, but work hasn't even started.

Any updates as to when it's gonna happen?

dreadathecontrols

April 30th, 2009, 05:47 PM

Nah bruv 2021

fuwad

May 3rd, 2009, 06:31 PM

Four Bunglow Depot, Andheri.

Piling Work In Progress at Andheri Depot.

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/7636/pictureinscrapj.jpg

Please visit my thread on Aurangabad airport in Avation & Airport Section.

jubin

May 5th, 2009, 06:47 PM

MIAL submits plans to MMRDA to connect airport to metro line (http://www.indopia.in/India-usa-uk-news/latest-news/565787/Business/4/20/4)

Mumbai , May 4 Mumbai International Airport Ltd today said it has submitted proposals to the MMRDA to connect the airport to the metro line proposed to come up in the city in the next few years.
"We have given several proposals to the Mumbai Metropolitan Regional Development Authority (MMRDA) to connect the airport with the metro network," MIAL Managing Director G V Sanjay Reddy told reporters here.

MIAL, which is currently undertaking the modernisation and development work of the Mumbai airport, has also provisioned for land for this purpose, Reddy said.

The original plan for the first metro rail line from the eastern suburb of Ghatkopar to the western suburb of Andheri had suggested a link to the airport, but was dropped since it was found unviable, he said adding,"we have limitations, but we are following it up."

The proposed extended metro link will be connected to both the terminals of the airport.

Bombay Boy

May 6th, 2009, 05:14 AM

the ideal airport line would connect the city to the airport and maybe the western suburbs. but thats not going to happen in my lifetime

niknak

May 6th, 2009, 06:08 AM

It'd be cool if Suburban Railways built a line to the airport and ran a special (good looking) train from the airport all the way down to Churchgate using Western Railway tracks!

zenith_suv

May 6th, 2009, 07:39 AM

It'd be cool if Suburban Railways built a line to the airport and ran a special (good looking) train from the airport all the way down to Churchgate using Western Railway tracks!

IR railways is not extending the suburban lines for common people , it's imaginative to think that they'll act on an express line.

Besides , nothing matches the class of a slick u/g metro station connected to the brand new Terminal with easy transit.

niknak

May 6th, 2009, 10:33 AM

IR railways is not extending the suburban lines for common people , it's imaginative to think that they'll act on an express line.

Besides , nothing matches the class of a slick u/g metro station connected to the brand new Terminal with easy transit.

Yeah the ideal thing would be to have a high speed rail link going straight from Nariman Point to BKC to Airport along with a couple more stops....

But this is Mumbai...very little gets done...it would take decades to build such a link...

The most realistic (and cheapest) solution would be to have a link thru the suburban railway which already exists and goes straight to downtown and is located almost adjacent to the airport. This could be temporary (meaning a couple decades) until a faster rail connection is made to the airport.

mumbairail

May 11th, 2009, 06:16 PM

Bombay Boy

May 11th, 2009, 06:28 PM

http://uk.babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_url?doit=done&tt=url&intl=1&fr=bf-home&trurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.molinari-rail.com%2Findex.php%3FL%3D4%26id%3D8&lp=fr_en&btnTrUrl=Translate

Fusionist

May 11th, 2009, 07:40 PM

mihir1310

May 11th, 2009, 07:40 PM

http://www.molinari-rail.com/en/consulting/tender-support/

the page has an english version .. no need to translate

jubin

May 11th, 2009, 09:02 PM

I am not sure if this was posted before.
Here is the link from where I got this photo.
http://www.molinari-rail.com/index.php?L=4&id=8
Is this is the final look of the Mumbai metro train. The information is not in English so no idea what it is saying. Anyone can translate?

http://www.geocities.com/mumbairail/mumbaitrain2.jpg

IF this is the design, it looks simply ugly :puke:

Mumbai deserves a better Metro

http://uk.babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_url?doit=done&tt=url&intl=1&fr=bf-home&trurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.molinari-rail.com%2Findex.php%3FL%3D4%26id%3D8&lp=fr_en&btnTrUrl=Translate

http://www.molinari-rail.com/en/consulting/tender-support/

the page has an english version .. no need to translate

bhailog, that is just an illustration. as per mumbaimetro1 (http://www.mumbaimetro1.com/HTML/project_update.html), CSR nanjing is the supplier of rolling stock. their website (http://www.csrgc.com.cn/ens/cpyfw/cgdtcl/index.shtml) has some rather fine looking coaches. it will be alright.

inus2663

May 12th, 2009, 04:45 AM

Source: TOI

MMRDA on defensive over Metro work too

MUMBAI: The BMC and Mumbai Metropolitan Region Development Authority (MMRDA) are now verbally sparring over the Metro Rail project

too.

Civic officials have said that work from Versova to Ghatkopar, carried out under MMRDA supervision for the 11-kilometre Metro line, may cause areas to go under water this monsoon. They said underground utilities have been badly damaged. Among the areas being cited are J P Road and D J Road in Andheri (West) and Hirachand Desai Marg in Ghatkopar.

Civic officials said that contractors appointed by the MMRDA work under little supervision and damaged sewer lines and stormwater drains while laying the foundation for the Metro. Such disruptions will make it hard for rainwater to recede, said officials.

A senior civic official, speaking on condition of anonymity, admitted that there was no coordination between the two bodies. "We have told top officials of the MMRDA and Mumbai Metro 1 (which works under the MMRDA) to consult our hydraulic and sewerage officials before starting piling work. We have maps that show where the utilities are,'' he said.

However, K P Maheshwari, director of Mumbai Metro 1, said, "We are surprised the BMC is saying this, because we made presentations and they seemed satisfied with our progress. Some drains were damaged and have been rectified; the remaining will be repaired by May 20.'' MMRDA PRO Dilip Kawathkar said, "If underground utilities have been badly damaged, there would have been a public outcry by now.''

The BMC claimed it is trying to minimise problems at chronic spots. "We will deploy additional staff. We will also coordinate with the traffic police,'' said a senior official. Damaged drains are being diverted or temporarily connected. "If it is not possible to finish work before the monsoon, we will undertake repairs in October,'' said the civic officer.

The MMRDA has been asked to bring work to a "safe stage'' by May 20. "The dug-up portions will have to be filled or barricaded,'' said a civic official.

niknak

May 12th, 2009, 08:42 AM

Hindustan Times already had an article which showed exactly what the Mumbai Metro Train would look like. Please review that past forum post.

May 12th, 2009, 11:57 AM

^ That was another generic render produced by PSing a DM trainset. Neither MM1 or CSR NP have released the design AFAIK.

zenith_suv

May 14th, 2009, 07:43 AM

http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/8623/metrot.jpg

HT

May 14th, 2009, 01:41 PM

some images from Getty taken on May 13-

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/8814/87140941.jpg
^notice the newly erected pier caps

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/7066/87140952.jpg

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/5184/87141009.jpg

qwertyasd

May 29th, 2009, 10:35 PM

http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1260178

Mumbai: After a two-year struggle, the Mumbai Metropolitan Region Development Authority (MMRDA) finally found a bidder for the 32km phase 2 of the metro rail project.
While Anil Ambani's Reliance Infrastructure (Rel Infra) emerged as the sole legitimate bidder, elder brother Mukesh's team dropped out.

The venue was the same sixth-floor MMRDA conference room where officials were left red faced four months ago when no bidder turned up. Mukesh Ambani's Reliance Industries Limited (RIL) had then submitted a letter expressing its inability to bid.

On Friday, too, there was speculation about what would happen on the new date for submission of bids. RIL officials were also present with their documents. But as the clock struck 3, MMRDA officials announced that Rel Infra was the only firm in the race.

Later, a top official of Mumbai Metro One, the firm that is building the metro's phase 1, told reporters they were confident of winning the contract for phase 2, too. "We have quoted a viability gap figure of Rs2,298 crore," the official said.

"This is lower than the permissible limit of 40% (or Rs3,064 crore) of the total cost of Metro 2, which is Rs7,660 crore. Also, Rel Infra has the experience of constructing the first phase."

May 30th, 2009, 06:34 AM

Line 2:

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/3434/30052009004008.jpg

If Anil bags this then it would remove any future financial, connectivity squabbles with MM1 that could have taken place had some other consortium won.

united

June 13th, 2009, 08:10 PM

so Rel Infra has got the Mumbai metro line 2 project ?

RameshPrakash

June 28th, 2009, 02:50 AM

Hi Folks,

This is the quietest Metro-rail link of all the cities.
Come Mumbaites some pixs would encourage to see how Mumbai is faring with its Metro rail construction.
I am sure all of you Mumbaites have camera phone s& take some good pixs.
Get active & go snappy .

Regards
Ramesh
:):banana:

inus2663

June 29th, 2009, 10:54 AM

Hopefully now with the bwsl we south mumbaikars can get to andheri etc. easily

Kewl Batty

June 30th, 2009, 06:55 AM

Work on Chennai, Mumbai metro rail networks to be launched soon

Source (http://www.hindu.com/2009/06/30/stories/2009063057862000.htm)

NEW DELHI: Stating that the Jawaharlal Nehru National Urban Renewal Mission (JNNURM) had received tremendous response since its launch, the UPA government on Monday announced the scheme would be expanded by an additional Rs. 50,000 crore; Rs. 25,000 crore of this will be contributed by the Central government.

Addressing a press conference here to unveil the 100-day Action Plan, Union Urban Development Minister S. Jaipal Reddy said the new criteria for allocation of funds under the JNNURM would qualify towns with a population of five lakh for funds, instead of the earlier 10 lakh population criteria. The move will add 28 new cities to the existing 65 cities.
Financial assistance

Mr. Reddy said the Ministry had decided to provide financial assistance to metro projects including those in Bangalore (42.3 km at Rs. 8,158 crore) and Kolkata (14.6 km at Rs. 4,874 crore). Work on the Chennai metro (45 km at a cost of Rs. 14,600 crore) and the Mumbai Metro Line 2 from Charkop to Mankhurd via Bandra (32 km at a cost of Rs. 7,660 crore) would be formally launched now.

The metro project for Kochi would also be taken up for sanction soon. The National Capital Region (NCR) of Delhi will get connected to the Delhi Metro with a Noida link getting commissioned in August 2009 and the metro in Gurgaon will become functional in January 2010 and get connected to Delhi by June 2010.

Mr. Reddy said the Ministry had sanctioned purchase of 15,220 modern buses for city transport for 61 mission cities. These buses will be delivered by December 2009.

The government will also take up the issue of organising procurement of such buses in 118 cities with a population of two lakh or more.

To provide the metro experience on bus, Mr. Reddy said, modern buses with low floor or semi-low floor and wide doors, vehicle tracking system, on-line passenger information system, LED sign boards, electronic ticketing, and smart cards are envisaged.

b3ta

July 1st, 2009, 11:52 PM

It ain't much but here are a couple of random pics I took of metro construction in Andheri in early June.
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/7941/dsc6233.jpg
note the completed pillars in the back
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/1641/dsc6232d.jpg
Reliance ADAG hoarding

Metro construction is well on its way, and Andhrei on the whole was pretty impressive with lots of new glass clad offices.

bhargavsura

July 2nd, 2009, 06:29 AM

:delete:

powai_mumbai

July 2nd, 2009, 04:03 PM

that looks like a lot of pillars being up...looks like Mr. junior ambani is serious about this Metro Business....hopefully he would own the Full Metro construction in Mumbai

RameshPrakash

July 3rd, 2009, 03:05 AM

Suncity

July 7th, 2009, 04:59 AM

photo copyright deepaktaunk

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/6945/metrorailconstdeepaktau.jpg (http://img407.imageshack.us/i/metrorailconstdeepaktau.jpg/)

Illusionist

July 7th, 2009, 06:34 AM

by looking at the pics one gets the impression that MM is not doing as great job as DMRC in the terms of safety.
i hope they keep the safety standards high.

July 8th, 2009, 02:40 AM

photo copyright deepaktaunk

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/6945/metrorailconstdeepaktau.jpg

That's a cool view. For those who are wondering the location, it's Versova. The pic was taken in early March so don't get your dhotis in a bunch about how slow the project is proceeding. Those piers should be done by now with a segment launcher looming over them.

Bombay Boy

July 8th, 2009, 09:21 AM

the first metro coach (made in shanghai) will be delivered after monsoons and trials will start sometime in sep-oct. metro to be officially opened to public in end 2010, 3 years before schedule. well done reliance

skdubai

July 8th, 2009, 12:49 PM

^^ wow!!! where is the news from?

Bombay Boy

July 8th, 2009, 01:58 PM

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/metro-first-rake-to-arrive-in-october/486386/

METRO: First rake to arrive in October

Posted: Wednesday, Jul 08, 2009 at 0149 hrs
Mumbai: Mumbaikars will get their first glimpse of the Metro rail this October when the first rake will be shipped from Shanghai, China, for a trial run on the Versova-Andheri-Ghatkopar link. The trial run of the four-coach rake will be held on a 100-metre stretch between D N Nagar and Versova.

The Versova-Andheri-Ghatkopar section is the first corridor of the 146-km long, rail-based Mass Rapid Transit System (MRTS) for Mumbai by the Mumbai Metropolitan Region Development Authority (MMRDA).

Comprising 12 stations, the project is being implemented by Mumbai Metro One Private Limited - a special purpose vehicle (SPV) formed by Reliance Energy Ltd, Veolia Transport (France) and MMRDA. CSR Nanjing Puzhen Rolling Stock Company had bagged the Rs 604-crore contract to supply 16 trains over two years. “The first rake will be in Mumbai by October. We will conduct a trial,” said T C Benjamin, principal secretary, Urban Development Department.

Moreover, the 11.4-km stretch got a boost on Tuesday when the Centre approved the Rs 500-crore viability gap funding (VGF) for the project in the budget. Officials said the approval meant that the project will be completed by the end of 2010, at least three years ahead of the project deadline.

Urban Development Department officials said the Centre had earlier rejected the demand for Rs 650-crore VGF as they had applied late. Moreover, the Central Government had contended that the contract was finalised even before the VGF principles were approved.

Charkop depot plan for CRZ approval
The state government has sent the proposal for a depot on a 22-hectare plot in Charkop for CRZ approval. The decision to reduce the size of the depot was taken after residents in the locality opposed the 40-hectare stretch. The government will have to train a canal passing through the stretch and reclaim land to construct the depot.

bhargavsura

July 8th, 2009, 02:38 PM

Weren't they already aiming for 2010 deadline?

KB335ci2

July 9th, 2009, 06:24 AM

The pic was taken in early March so don't get your dhotis in a bunch about how slow the project is proceeding.

hahahaha. That one cracked me up. Sorry for the tangential post guys :)

Illusionist

July 14th, 2009, 08:36 AM

source (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/NEWS-City-Mumbai-Steel-scaffolding-collapses-at-Mumbai-Metro-site/articleshow/4774791.cms)
Steel scaffolding collapses at Mumbai Metro site:ohno:
MUMBAI: A steel scaffolding used in the construction of the financial capital's first Metro line collapsed in the northwest suburb of Sakineka
late on Monday night following gusty winds.

No one was injured in the incident which took place when work was going on at the site.

The incident comes two days after an under- construction metro pillar collapsed in Delhi leaving six persons dead.

"It was a temporary scaffolding which we had put up during the construction and it fell due to the strong winds. We removed the debris in two to three hours. Work has resumed at the site," K P Maheshwari, Director of Mumbai Metro One, the consortium building the metro line between suburban Andheri and Ghatkopar, said on Tuesday.

"We are going to conduct and inquiry into why the structure collapsed and come out with a report," he said.

The city has been lashed by heavy rains accompanied by strong winds since last night disrupting road and rail traffic.

Waterlogging was reported in many areas across the city, disrupting traffic.

european

July 14th, 2009, 12:36 PM

this just keeps getting better.

bhargavsura

July 14th, 2009, 08:33 PM

"We are going to conduct and inquiry into why the structure collapsed and come out with a report," he said."

The report needs a lot of peer-reviewing.

Hopefully they maintain more precautionary measures as they were talking about.

maddyvoldy

July 15th, 2009, 06:26 PM

Mumbai Metro supervisor dies due to electric shock

Mumbai: Just a day after the collapse of a steel scaffolding at a Mumbai Metro construction site, a labour supervisor died due to an electric shock near a project office in Andheri today, police said.

"Navin Singh, a 38-year-old labour supervisor, was going to one of the project offices of the Metro line located on Andheri-Kurla Road, when he sustained an electric shock outside the office," a senior policeman from Andheri police station told PTI, adding that Singh was taken to a nearby hospital, where he was declared dead.

Police suspect that loose wires outside the portable cabin, currently used as the project
office, might have resulted in Singh sustaining an electric shock.

A case of negligence has been registered against the electrician responsible for the electrical works outside the shed under Section 304 (A) of the Indian Penal Code, he said.

Yesterday, a metallic scaffolding structure collapsed at Saki Naka on the Versova-Ghatkopar Metro line following gusty winds, but no one was injured in the incident. Mumbai Metro One, the consortium building the Metro line, said it had ordered an inquiry into the incident.

Source : http://www.dnaindia.com/mumbai/report_mumbai-metro-supervisor-dies-due-to-electric-shock_1274295

bhargavsura

July 15th, 2009, 06:30 PM

WOW. This is just becoming more and more shocking.

jubin

July 15th, 2009, 06:35 PM

WOW. This is just becoming more and more shocking.

pun intended?

ankushgupta

July 15th, 2009, 06:37 PM

Mumbai Metro supervisor dies due to electric shock

Mumbai: Just a day after the collapse of a steel scaffolding at a Mumbai Metro construction site, a labour supervisor died due to an electric shock near a project office in Andheri today, police said.

Source : http://www.dnaindia.com/mumbai/report_mumbai-metro-supervisor-dies-due-to-electric-shock_1274295

I am sorry, but I don't get the point here. Is it mean He was working on Mumbai Metro thats why he got electric shock and died.

bhargavsura

July 15th, 2009, 06:38 PM

pun intended?

Yeah perhaps. :)

shanware

July 17th, 2009, 05:11 PM

A person DIED .....grow up.

Babji

July 20th, 2009, 12:26 AM

http://www.indianexpress.com/story-print/486386/

METRO: First rake to arrive in October
Swatee Kher Posted online: Wednesday, Jul 08, 2009 at 0149 hrs
Mumbai : Mumbaikars will get their first glimpse of the Metro rail this October when the first rake will be shipped from Shanghai, China, for a trial run on the Versova-Andheri-Ghatkopar link. The trial run of the four-coach rake will be held on a 100-metre stretch between D N Nagar and Versova.

The Versova-Andheri-Ghatkopar section is the first corridor of the 146-km long, rail-based Mass Rapid Transit System (MRTS) for Mumbai by the Mumbai Metropolitan Region Development Authority (MMRDA).

Comprising 12 stations, the project is being implemented by Mumbai Metro One Private Limited - a special purpose vehicle (SPV) formed by Reliance Energy Ltd, Veolia Transport (France) and MMRDA. CSR Nanjing Puzhen Rolling Stock Company had bagged the Rs 604-crore contract to supply 16 trains over two years. “The first rake will be in Mumbai by October. We will conduct a trial,” said T C Benjamin, principal secretary, Urban Development Department.

Moreover, the 11.4-km stretch got a boost on Tuesday when the Centre approved the Rs 500-crore viability gap funding (VGF) for the project in the budget. Officials said the approval meant that the project will be completed by the end of 2010, at least three years ahead of the project deadline.

Urban Development Department officials said the Centre had earlier rejected the demand for Rs 650-crore VGF as they had applied late. Moreover, the Central Government had contended that the contract was finalised even before the VGF principles were approved.

Charkop depot plan for CRZ approval: The state government has sent the proposal for a depot on a 22-hectare plot in Charkop for CRZ approval. The decision to reduce the size of the depot was taken after residents in the locality opposed the 40-hectare stretch. The government will have to train a canal passing through the stretch and reclaim land to construct the depot.
thats cool. the festival season Oct-Nov-Dec will be very evenful for Mumbaikars this year! :cheers:

project overview details: http://www.railway-technology.com/projects/mumbai-metro/

does Mumbai Metro have any official web site yet ... (ok, just found it) http://www.mumbaimetro1.com/HTML/index.html

mmrdamumbai site seems to have more info ... http://www.mmrdamumbai.org/projects_metro_rail.htm

appointed independent safety auditor: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/NEWS-City-Mumbai-Mumbai-Metro-officials-to-learn-lessons-from-Delhi-crash/articleshow/4774361.cms
any reason why, it is still being managed by MMRDA ?

shanware

July 20th, 2009, 05:56 PM

Guys, is there someone we can call, e-mail, snail-mail to push into action on some of these projects like the worli-haji ali sea link, sewri-nhava sheva, mumbai metro (charkop-bandra) that are basically waiting for government approvals. I am going to send an e-mail a day to the chief-minister of Maharashtra (chiefminister@maharashtra.gov.in, ashokchavanmind@rediffmail.com) and MMRDA (mmrda@giasbm01.vsnl.net.in). There's also some phone numbers of folks including Ratnakar Gaikwad listed here (http://www.mmrdamumbai.org/information_officers.htm) that I'm going to try and call. Any other ideas for someone sitting outside India (in my case the US) to do our bit ? Any help would be appreciated.

sammyk

July 20th, 2009, 09:22 PM

^^ An email a day? No need to harass these guys (as much as they may deserve it) as they'll probably just wind up blocking you anyway and take you less seriously. Send an email and snail mail and make sure you properly proof-read it. Maybe even post it here before you mail it for more input.

shanware

July 21st, 2009, 05:54 AM

An e-mail a day from the same person IS probably a stupid idea...as you can see I'm still formulating my strategies :) ...will definitely post the letter here though.

Coolguyz

July 21st, 2009, 02:00 PM

Construction of pillars on Andheri East side. The tallest one is being constructed to cross over the andheri flyoverhttp://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/7680c50062.jpg (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/)

qwertyasd

July 21st, 2009, 04:15 PM

sammyk

July 21st, 2009, 05:10 PM

hmm, that didn't work...just quote his message and cut and paste the URL.

avikid

July 21st, 2009, 05:15 PM

This is the image he posted

CC coolguyz

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/416/7680c50062.jpg

URL: http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/416/7680c50062.jpg

Coolguyz

July 21st, 2009, 05:22 PM

Sorry for the image quality as it was raining and taken by my cell phone.But you can see the grey color pillars as well as the heavy duty cranes at its baseThis is the image he posted

CC coolguyz

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/416/7680c50062.jpg

URL: http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/416/7680c50062.jpg

qwertyasd

July 21st, 2009, 10:42 PM

no problem dude... nice update. looking forward for more pics from you to make it clear what the scale of operations are!

axw11

July 30th, 2009, 03:44 AM

http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/5598/30072009002009.jpg

bhargavsura

July 30th, 2009, 03:48 AM

:cheers:

Great news.

:banana:

qwertyasd

July 30th, 2009, 05:10 AM

good progress - lessee if we see some renders soon.

Bombay Boy

July 30th, 2009, 05:41 AM

isnt there a huge problem in juhu-bandra regarding underground/overground? they need to sort that out first

bhargavsura

July 30th, 2009, 06:29 AM

Yeah. Definitely. I hope they don't start building overhead and the residents will object half way through the construction. This needs to be sorted out first and and in agreement with the people.

shanware

July 30th, 2009, 06:59 AM

Could'nt they build it in 2-3 legs ? First build the Charkop-Azad nagar leg and provide connectivity to Metro1 and then work on the more controversial part between Azad nagar and Bandra and beyond. Hopefully by then, Metro1 would have also shown the city what a boon rapid-transit can be. Anyways, its awesome news. Projects can only be completed, if they're begun :)

Coolguyz

August 3rd, 2009, 07:27 PM

Metro Casting yardhttp://h.imagehost.org/0574/DSC00162.jpg (http://h.imagehost.org/view/0574/DSC00162)http://h.imagehost.org/0837/DSC00163.jpg (http://h.imagehost.org/view/0837/DSC00163)

Indian Forever

August 3rd, 2009, 11:58 PM

Hmmm i expected more cranes.

bhargavsura

August 4th, 2009, 01:06 AM

That's coz this is just a segment casting yard, not an actual construction site.

Coolguyz

August 4th, 2009, 04:43 AM

Actually its a huge construction site.There are barricades all around it. Only managed to get pics from this opening and plus i had took it from cellphone so excuse me for the quality

qwertyasd

August 4th, 2009, 05:26 AM

mumbai metro 1 is confident it will finish by July 2010! I really doubt it.

jubin

August 4th, 2009, 11:07 PM

RInfra Metro-II estimate differs with MMRDA's (http://www.dnaindia.com/mumbai/report_rinfra-metro-ii-estimate-differs-with-mmrda-s_1279800)

Mumbai: The 32-km Metro-II project between Charkop and Mankhurd has barely got off the ground, and there is already a cost escalation!

Reliance Infrastructure or RInfra -- the company which won the contract for constructing the second line of metro --has quoted a figure of Rs11,000 crore for the project. Interestingly, Mumbai Metropolitan Regional Development Authority (MMRDA) had announced it as a Rs8,250-crore project, making RInfra figure a cost escalation of Rs2,750 crore.

The state government cleared the decks for the construction of second line of metro after the executive committee and the MMRDA authority approved the project, with the only bidder which participated in the bidding process -- a consortium between RInfra, Reliance Communications and SNC Lavalin Inc, Canada -- bagging it.

As per the press release issued by MMRDA, the total cost of the second line was Rs8,250 crore -- of which Rs5,952 crore was to be borne by the consortium, Rs1,532 crore by the central government and Rs766 crore by MMRDA.

In a statement issued by RInfra on Tuesday, it pegged the project at Rs11,000 crore. A top company official attributed it to "the realistic cost of the metro project". "Though what has been quoted by MMRDA is not an incorrect figure, it is their cost estimate. There are certain implications which we assume while working out our costs. The viability gap is the only thing which the government has to take care of and it remains to be Rs2298 crore," the official said.

MMRDA spokesperson Dilip Kawathkar said, "Since the cost will be borne by the company, we need not bother about it."

Kewl Batty

August 5th, 2009, 02:44 PM

Mumbai Metro financial closure by July 2010 (http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/2009/08/05/stories/2009080551521700.htm)

Mumbai, Aug. 4 The Mumbai Metro-II Project, which has been awarded to Reliance Infrastructure (RInfra) on a build-own-transfer basis, will achieve financial closure by end-June 2010.

A company official said the process of signing the concession agreement and financial closure would take nearly 11 months to complete.

The project was awarded by the Mumbai Metropolitan Region Development Authority through an international competitive bidding process. The estimated project cost is about Rs 11,000 crore and it is scheduled to be operational by 2015, the company said in press statement.

The proposed second line will provide a link between Navi Mumbai and the western suburbs, connecting Charkop in the North to Bandra and then to Mankhurd in the East. The total length is 32 km with 27 stations en route.

The RInfra bid was part of a consortium including SNC Lavolin Inc of Canada and Reliance Communication. The company will get a concession period of 35 years to operate the line with an extension clause of another 10 years.

ankushgupta

August 6th, 2009, 02:01 AM

When they gonna start the construction? after financial closure??

August 6th, 2009, 03:14 AM

The start of construction doesn't depend on the financial closure. Work on line 1 began 8 months before MM1 achieved financial closure of their project.

There's some resistance to the elevated line passing through the rich burbs of Juhu and Bandra so there will definitely be a delay in the start. By how much? I don't know.

as a side note, since this project is also under Reliance, I'm sure they'll call the operating consortium Mumbai Metro 2.

@Coolguyz - Thanks for the updates man. Don't worry about the quality.

Bombay Boy

August 6th, 2009, 05:51 AM

reliance guys said they will start work after monsoons

Abhishek901

August 9th, 2009, 01:10 AM

Isn't 11000 cr figure for line 2 very high? Delhi metro's phase-1 had more than double length (65 km, of which 15 km was u/g) and was completed for 10,571 cr. Cost escalation coz of inflation will not be more than 50% for a difference of 7 years (the difference b/w completion of DMRC's phase-1 and this line).

Bombay Boy

August 9th, 2009, 04:33 PM

the bombay metro figures have always looked way too inflated to me. maybe they are counting land costs, etc

also there are lots more underground utilities in bombay that need to be taken care of. but even then it seems a shockingly high figure

axw11

August 11th, 2009, 03:47 AM

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/7366/11082009005008.jpg

Coolguyz

August 11th, 2009, 04:26 PM

http://h.imagehost.org/0830/DSC00160.jpg (http://h.imagehost.org/view/0830/DSC00160)
http://h.imagehost.org/0455/DSC00161.jpg (http://h.imagehost.org/view/0455/DSC00161)

bhargavsura

August 11th, 2009, 04:38 PM

I doubt if Reliance can get the first line done by December 2010.

bains1971

August 11th, 2009, 06:28 PM

Those pillars look very thin compared to delhi metro, is it just me.:nuts:

zenith_suv

August 11th, 2009, 07:28 PM

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Kewl Batty

August 12th, 2009, 11:48 AM

Those pillars look very thin compared to delhi metro, is it just me.:nuts:

simple.. Delhi metro tracks were of broad guage.. this is of standard guage. :)

Coolguyz

August 13th, 2009, 12:26 PM

Construction pics from versova towards andheri station
This is where the metro ends
http://h.imagehost.org/0099/DSC00160.jpg (http://h.imagehost.org/view/0099/DSC00160)
ON THE LEFT behind the barricades is the D N Nagar depot
http://h.imagehost.org/0425/DSC00161.jpg (http://h.imagehost.org/view/0425/DSC00161)
http://h.imagehost.org/0289/DSC00162.jpg (http://h.imagehost.org/view/0289/DSC00162)
here is the entrance to d depot
http://a.imagehost.org/0641/DSC00163.jpg (http://a.imagehost.org/view/0641/DSC00163)
http://h.imagehost.org/0078/DSC00164.jpg (http://h.imagehost.org/view/0078/DSC00164)
http://h.imagehost.org/0278/DSC00165.jpg (http://h.imagehost.org/view/0278/DSC00165)
this one is near andheri station
http://h.imagehost.org/0457/DSC00166.jpg (http://h.imagehost.org/view/0457/DSC00166)
http://h.imagehost.org/0113/DSC00167.jpg (http://h.imagehost.org/view/0113/DSC00167)

Kewl Batty

August 13th, 2009, 01:08 PM

^^ Wow, nice pics there..... good work Coolguyz!

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I guess you are adding the " and " code and again clicking on the image tool from the menu bar and pasting the link... You have to do only one.. either add the " and " code and paste the link alone in between them or simply click the image tool from the menu bar and paste the link and click ok.. Hope you understood. :)

european

August 13th, 2009, 02:24 PM

hey great pics mumbai so badly needs this metro.

bhargavsura

August 13th, 2009, 03:50 PM

thanks for updates

Illusionist

August 13th, 2009, 06:56 PM

nice updates. the column design om MM is different from other metros. so is the top portion, it looks so thin, just like DM's express line.

MM will definitely change the way mumbai travels.

skganji

August 13th, 2009, 07:13 PM

nice updates. the column design om MM is different from other metros. so is the top portion, it looks so thin, just like DM's express line.

MM will definitely change the way mumbai travels.

I have the same question and great updates. Finally, we are seeing a solution to the terrible traffic problems in the Mumbai city.

shanware

August 13th, 2009, 07:16 PM

Thanks for the updates. Do we know what percentage of the DN nagar strech is complete ? Is'nt that where they're planning on having the trial run in October on a 100-metre strech ?

mumbairail

August 14th, 2009, 05:07 PM

I am not sure if this was posted ealier. Here is a photo I found of Mumbai metro train. It was taken from the following website:
Can someone please zoom in and expand the photo

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.weblo.com/asset_images/full/Mumbai_Metro_Mumbai_Metro_48e9dcacaf8c2.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.weblo.com/property/Other/Gurudev_Siddha_Peeth/413952/&usg=__88MTySaYgWPohWKalyFuqgAVmzI=&h=77&w=86&sz=4&hl=en&start=217&um=1&tbnid=8YttrvJzNkdZEM:&tbnh=69&tbnw=77&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dmumbai%2Bmetro%26ndsp%3D21%26hl%3Den%26rls%3Dcom.microsoft:en-ca:IE-SearchBox%26sa%3DN%26start%3D210%26um%3D1

http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&rls=com.microsoft:en-ca:IE-SearchBox&um=1&q=mumbai+metro&sa=N&start=210&ndsp=21

http://www.geocities.com/mumbairail/mumbaitrain3.jpg

bhargavsura

August 14th, 2009, 09:57 PM

That's not a picture of Mumbai Metro. The trains' pictures haven't been released yet.

August 16th, 2009, 09:33 PM

Coolguyz, the piers are looking sleek and nice. Thanks for the pics mate. Encore.

Here are a couple of old pics-

taken in July, courtesy Outlook India (http://business.outlookindia.com/newolb/article.aspx?240793)
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/8092/p392.th.jpg (http://img220.imageshack.us/i/p392.jpg/)

concrete pour taking place 2-3 months ago at the same spot adj to the andheri flyover on the WEH, courtesy sew constructions (http://sewinfrastructure.com/PROJECTS/SIGNATURE/MUMBAIMETRORAIL/index.htm)
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/8674/sew018829.th.jpg (http://img220.imageshack.us/i/sew018829.jpg/)

Coolguyz

August 17th, 2009, 04:37 AM

The Piling work is goin onthroughout the route @ good pace, the only place where I think it would be a challenge would be from andheri west to east, the road is too narrow on the west side for pillars to come up plus they have to demolish a FOB which goes over the tracks to make way for the metro . I think they will take it up at the last.

vidya

August 18th, 2009, 07:21 AM

Work on second metro line to begin tomorrow ... read more (http://www.projectscommunity.com/story.php?title=work-on-second-metro-line-to-begin-tomorrow)

Bombay Boy

August 18th, 2009, 07:39 AM

not work. bhoomipujan today. work will start in a few months to a year

zenith_suv

August 18th, 2009, 08:00 AM

and here's the rather high detail article from today's HT about the Mumbai Metro.

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/8697/83517412.jpg

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/7092/mm2e.jpg

qwertyasd

August 18th, 2009, 07:50 PM

irutavias

August 18th, 2009, 09:05 PM

Finally, there's some clarity on Mumbai Metro. 9 Separate lines? The system needs greater inter-connectivity. Mumbai deserves so much more. And how is the monorail going to be integrated to this system? In addition, Metro Stations should be connected to the Suburban Rail Stations wherever possible. This master-plan needs to be improved significantly, but at least there is some clarity now.

Euromast

August 19th, 2009, 10:13 AM

At Metro-II puja, Centre offers 50% funding for stuck corridor III (http://www.indianexpress.com/news/at-metroii-puja-centre-offers-50-funding-for-stuck-corridor-iii/503576/0)

The Centre is ready to bear 50 per cent of the cost of the Colaba-Bandra Metro Corridor project under a joint venture model, according to Union Minister for Urban Development S Jaipal Reddy.

He was speaking on Tuesday at the foundation-stone laying ceremony of the 32-km Charkop-Bandra-Mankhurd Corridor.

President Pratibha Patil performed the bhoomi puja for the 27-station project, taken up by Reliance Infrastructure Ltd, which will provide a vital link between Navi Mumbai and the Western suburbs and connect Charkop in the north to Bandra and Mankhurd in the east.

She said, “Metro and Monorail are like capillaries and veins. The more they grow, more the body functions. With Metro and Monorail coming, the city will grow and progress.”

On taking forward the underground Colaba-Bandra corridor stuck in the slow lane because of its high estimated cost of Rs 12,000 crore, Reddy said the Public Private Partnership (PPP) model may not be suitable because of the huge cost.

Bombay Boy

August 19th, 2009, 10:29 AM

the only corridor i personally care about

the centre has still not released the money the promised for corridor 1, so this looks like a bit of politics

Coolguyz

August 20th, 2009, 11:48 AM

Ghatkopar Metro Station
http://h.imagehost.org/0230/DSC00171.jpg (http://h.imagehost.org/view/0230/DSC00171)
http://h.imagehost.org/0568/DSC00172.jpg (http://h.imagehost.org/view/0568/DSC00172)
Initially this was supposed to be flyover connecting Andheri to Ghatkopar over a hill which never happened due to litigations but now metro will run over it.
http://h.imagehost.org/0398/DSC00173.jpg (http://h.imagehost.org/view/0398/DSC00173)
Sakinaka jUnction
http://a.imagehost.org/0350/DSC00177.jpg (http://a.imagehost.org/view/0350/DSC00177)
Marol naka junction
http://a.imagehost.org/0829/DSC00179.jpg (http://a.imagehost.org/view/0829/DSC00179)
Airport Junction
http://a.imagehost.org/0750/DSC00180.jpg (http://a.imagehost.org/view/0750/DSC00180)
http://a.imagehost.org/0508/DSC00181.jpg (http://a.imagehost.org/view/0508/DSC00181)
J B nagar junction
http://a.imagehost.org/0269/DSC00182.jpg (http://a.imagehost.org/view/0269/DSC00182)
http://a.imagehost.org/0733/DSC00183.jpg (http://a.imagehost.org/view/0733/DSC00183)
NEar Seepz
http://a.imagehost.org/0586/DSC00184.jpg (http://a.imagehost.org/view/0586/DSC00184)
http://a.imagehost.org/0855/DSC00185.jpg (http://a.imagehost.org/view/0855/DSC00185)
They are not using the griders on the top to lift the segments unlike other metro projects. The segment is one huge piece connecting the two pillars. they are using giant machine, a crane which in this pic is covered by d car and rick
http://a.imagehost.org/0340/DSC00187.jpg (http://a.imagehost.org/view/0340/DSC00187)
Segments have been started to be placed on the pillars. Here is first of them
http://a.imagehost.org/0771/DSC00189.jpg (http://a.imagehost.org/view/0771/DSC00189)

skdubai

August 20th, 2009, 12:15 PM

The work is progressing very nicely it looks like!! am starting to believe their claims about opening before time!

bhargavsura

August 20th, 2009, 12:32 PM

Nice shots coolguyz.

Some pictures show cleanliness around the construction. I am happy about it. Can't wait to see the tracks put on now.

axw11

August 20th, 2009, 01:14 PM

Coolguyz gr8 work m8....

progress looks good...

european

August 20th, 2009, 02:49 PM

hey those pillars are looking lot nicer and a lot more sleeker then delhi metrosm a good start.

Coolguyz

August 20th, 2009, 03:55 PM

Thanks guyz for your appreciation.Yes, the work is going @ gr8 pace I mean once returning @ 1 in the night work was going on near andheri flyover. According to me work is going on in phases, from versova to andheri station almost all the pillars are up, then on andheri east work is movin at slow pace then from western express highway to saki naka junction the pace is good with even segments coming up but then from sakinaka junction till ghatkopar station its again slow.Meanwhile ghatkopar station as in the picture is almost ready. Looking at the construction site i guess they are integrating skywalks, metro and suburban railway at andheri and ghatkopar station

Euromast

August 20th, 2009, 03:55 PM

Coolguyz, you are really cool. Thank for your efforts. You are a welcome change.

shanware

August 20th, 2009, 04:59 PM

Coolguyz ... Thanks so much for the pics :)

qwertyasd

August 20th, 2009, 06:00 PM

great updates coolguyz! looking forward for more! you have set the thread on fire!

nirax

August 25th, 2009, 08:55 PM

hi guys,

it is about two years since i left mumbai and not one day passes without me longing to see mumbai again ... cant tell you how happy i feel to see this development in my favorite city in the world.

please keep updated with pics ... thank you all very much.

Advait

August 25th, 2009, 10:29 PM

simple.. Delhi metro tracks were of broad guage.. this is of standard guage. :)
and
hey those pillars are looking lot nicer and a lot more sleeker then delhi metrosm a good start.
Correct me if I am wrong. There was an HT article posted about Delhi Airport Express line which said that Government has now asked for use of high strength cement grade of the type used for Nuclear reactor domes for pillars which allows pillars to be slim for better aesthetics like Dubai metro. That explains why these new pillars are all slim compared to early Delhi metro pillars.

Coolguyz

August 26th, 2009, 03:35 PM

Construction near WEH, looks like its going to be a station
http://a.imagehost.org/0429/DSC00192.jpg (http://a.imagehost.org/view/0429/DSC00192)

bhargavsura

August 26th, 2009, 04:36 PM

AHAA!!! Now I see the construction is in full swing. Awesome updates, man. Yeah, it looks like a Metro Station.

:cheers:

shanware

August 26th, 2009, 05:03 PM

Thanks for the updates as always Coolguyz....so I'm assuming the metro goes over WEH. How are they planning on spanning the highway...any idea ?

bhargavsura

August 26th, 2009, 05:06 PM

Coolguyz

August 26th, 2009, 05:30 PM

Thanks for the updates as always Coolguyz....so I'm assuming the metro goes over WEH. How are they planning on spanning the highway...any idea ?
If you seen my earlier pictures they are not using griders for connecting pillars instead the spans are made long, enough to connect the pillars at one go and for that they are using heavy duty cranes. As far as crossing over the andheri flyover on WEH, they are goin to built a viaduct and i as far as I remember it will be a cable stayed,its a complex four-level station for passengers to reach the platform that will be over 20 metres above the ground—the metro route crosses the Jog flyover seven metres above it, 21 metres off the ground.

Coolguyz

August 26th, 2009, 05:33 PM

Of course it is. Otherwise how can they have a line to Ghatkopar from Versova?
As far as I spanning is concerned, most probably there will be few beams on each side of the highway on and girders and segments will be placed on the beam to create a track. Please correct me if I am wrong.

One can see two huge pillars rising on the either side while travelling on the flyover, one of the pillar is visible in the picture

shanware

August 26th, 2009, 05:46 PM

thanks man ....will surely be an impressive structure once its done. Again, I had posed this question before, but do you know if they're stcking to their plan of doing a trial run on a 100m stretch at DN nagar in October (as mentioned here http://www.indianexpress.com/story-print/486386/). Have you seen developments keeping with it at DN nagar ? Thanks again.

mihir1310

August 26th, 2009, 05:50 PM

Construction near WEH, looks like its going to be a station
http://a.imagehost.org/0429/DSC00192.jpg (http://a.imagehost.org/view/0429/DSC00192)

there is no way those buildings can stay so close to the structure !!!! .well there is a lot of demolition to be done here

european

August 26th, 2009, 06:34 PM

how long before the first train starts rolling.

die4chennai

August 26th, 2009, 07:10 PM

Keep them coming

DaGaucho

August 26th, 2009, 09:22 PM

Way to go Mumbai. Can't wait to visit India next year. :cheers:

Coolguyz

August 27th, 2009, 05:43 AM

there is no way those buildings can stay so close to the structure !!!! .well there is a lot of demolition to be done here

No demolitions required here.The road is temporary closed till d construction is completed, then the traffic will flow from below.As far as structure closed to buildings are concerned, have a look @ JJ flyover,people can almost touch the flyover from their windows so dont worry people in mumbai are used to it.

Suncity

August 27th, 2009, 05:47 AM

coolguyz - great photos!

:cheers:

inus2663

August 28th, 2009, 02:45 AM

how long before the first train starts rolling.

It's planned to open in 11 months.

Abhishek901

September 1st, 2009, 09:24 PM

PPP may be good for fast implementation but it looks like MMRDA will have major issues trying to extend the metro lines.

For example, charkop-dahisar extension - who should build it? Will the contract be given to RIL again? Or will the new bidder have to buy RIL's Charkop-Mankhurd line as well? Else, it will just be a hassle for commuters if they have to get off one train and get onto another every few km.

Also, i would suggest that they combine hutatma chowk - ghatkopar and ghatkopar-mulund in one contract. That way, people will have direct connectivity without changing trains. They have already screwed up the
charkop-colaba line by breaking the journey at bandra.

Even if the extension is built by some other company, people won't need to change trains to continue journey. There can be revenue share agreement b/w the two operators. Same would apply for hutatma chowk - ghatkopar and ghatkopar-mulund. Trains can continue onward journey from ghatkoper.

Abhishek901

September 1st, 2009, 09:35 PM

and here's the rather high detail article from today's HT about the Mumbai Metro.

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/8697/83517412.jpg

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/7092/mm2e.jpg

First articles mentions that the distance b/w Charkop and mankhurd would be covered in 25 minutes ! That means average speed is 77 km/hr. Normal average speed is around 35 km/hr for trains running at top speed of 80 km/hr and stopping at every one and a quarter km. For eg, the blue line of Delhi covers 34 km in 60.5 minutes. Reporters make huge errors...

In the masterplan map, most of the lines run parallel to existing suburban lines. Wasn't Mumbai metro supposed to complement the suburban rail (which will remain the backbone) instead of competing with it. Or is it that the metro is supposed to be used for smaller journeys within the city and suburban for longer journeys b/w city and outer suburbs (like that of Paris metro and RER).

qwertyasd

September 1st, 2009, 10:18 PM

Yes, the suburban trains are very packed. It makes sense to have metro lines parallel to the suburban trains and reduce some of the pressure on that system.

shanware

September 1st, 2009, 11:05 PM

I think it might help to have metro lines parallel to the suburban rails to help reduce the pressure on the existing systems as qwerty said. However many cars you add to our much-loved local trains and however much you increase their frequency, I dont see them being able to offer a 'great' travel experience unless we take some pressure of them. Also, long term it would be awesome if we could convert the suburban rail tracks into high-speed rail tracks that would have genuine hi-speed trains with 3-4 stops at hubs like CST, Prabhadevi(?), Bandra and Andheri plying on them. These lines could be extended to Dahanu (western) and Kasara/Igatpuri (central) making these areas much more viable as residential options while working in Mumbai.

inus2663

September 1st, 2009, 11:29 PM

Metro-3 financial model to be ready in two months

Ninad Siddhaye / DNASaturday, August 22, 2009 2:43 IST

Mumbai: After the union minister for urban development S Jaipal Reddy's announcement that the central government was ready to invest in the third line of Metro, officials of the Mumbai Metropolitan Regional Development Authority (MMRDA) have decided to send a proposal to the Centre on an urgent basis. If things go as per schedule, a detailed financial proposal will be ready within the next two months.

"We have already initiated the process of working out the financial model for the third line. The authority recently gave Louis Berger the contract to carry out a techno-economic feasibility study of the commercial utilisation of underground stations. Since the Centre is keen on the government taking the project ahead, we will now work out the financial model," Milind Mhaiskar, additional metropolitan commissioner said.
Reddy, during the bhoomipoojan of the second line of Metro, had announced that the central government was ready to invest up to 50% in the third line.

"The Japanese Bank for International Co-operation (JBIC) has already shown keen interest to invest in the project. Japanese companies such as Mitsubishi and Hitachi are considered to be of top quality in underground Metro work. We will also have to work out the model of running the Metro since it will definitely not be a Public Private Partnership (PPP) project," said Mhaiskar.

"The proposal would need the state cabinet's final nod. The decision will mostly be taken after the new government is formed in November," said another senior MMRDA official.

http://www.dnaindia.com/mumbai/report_metro-3-financial-model-to-be-ready-in-two-months_1284397

Abhishek901

September 5th, 2009, 01:19 PM

Yes, the suburban trains are very packed. It makes sense to have metro lines parallel to the suburban trains and reduce some of the pressure on that system.

Making 2 systems parallel and for the same purpose is a waste of resources. There are many other ways to decongest suburban railway like introduction of signalling system of metro standards. It may help trains run with a frequency of less than 2 min. which will more than double the capacity of the system. Spending billions on metro for just sharing load rather than upgrading existing system is stupidity and I believe that planners are not so stupid. Thats why I said that metro was meant to complement (feed) suburban railway instead of just sharing its load. As Shanware has said the existing lines may be converted to high speed lines with lesser stops. Long distance commuters will then use suburban network for reaching Mumbai and will spread out to their destinations using the metro. Metro will be limited to intra-city travel. If city planners are planning the same way, then building the 2 systems parallel is actually good thing as the interchange b/w the 2 systems will be easy and quick.

skdubai

September 6th, 2009, 09:10 AM

Well the suburban trains should be for that purpose i.e., suburban travelers. So if the metro has a parallel alignment, then it would server the inner city, leaving the suburban trains to server the outer areas... or at least thats what should happen...

DaGaucho

September 6th, 2009, 10:16 AM

Making 2 systems parallel and for the same purpose is a waste of resources. There are many other ways to decongest suburban railway like introduction of signalling system of metro standards. It may help trains run with a frequency of less than 2 min. which will more than double the capacity of the system. Spending billions on metro for just sharing load rather than upgrading existing system is stupidity and I believe that planners are not so stupid. Thats why I said that metro was meant to complement (feed) suburban railway instead of just sharing its load. As Shanware has said the existing lines may be converted to high speed lines with lesser stops. Long distance commuters will then use suburban network for reaching Mumbai and will spread out to their destinations using the metro. Metro will be limited to intra-city travel. If city planners are planning the same way, then building the 2 systems parallel is actually good thing as the interchange b/w the 2 systems will be easy and quick.

Yeah, I suspect that some 'local' trains may be re-christened as express/fast trains once the metra reaches colaba. At this point, the potential for improving the suburban system will greatly increase--overhauling the suburban trains/stations will be greatly facilitated by the presence of (relatively) parallel metro lines.

Advait

September 8th, 2009, 03:26 PM

Making 2 systems parallel and for the same purpose is a waste of resources.

There could be market segmentation with the suburban trains catering to one economic stratum and the metro catering to another by pricing them differently.

When the traffic is huge it does make sense. Besides, elevated metro routes may not be affected by heavy downpours that bring suburban trains to a standstill every monsoon. Think about the losses from bringing our commercial hub to a standstill by a rain induced bandh. Don't know how the underground stations would deal with it though.
Even from security standpoint it makes sense to not have one transport lifeline which if paralyzed by an unfortunate incident can lead to chaos.

pbuddy

September 9th, 2009, 07:35 AM

There could be market segmentation with the suburban trains catering to one economic stratum and the metro catering to another by pricing them differently.

When the traffic is huge it does make sense. Besides, elevated metro routes may not be affected by heavy downpours that bring suburban trains to a standstill every monsoon. Think about the losses from bringing our commercial hub to a standstill by a rain induced bandh. Don't know how the underground stations would deal with it though.
Even from security standpoint it makes sense to not have one transport lifeline which if paralyzed by an unfortunate incident can lead to chaos.

Presently, we need to focus on bringing public transportation to areas that don't already have it. Creating a system parallel to the suburban trains is highly unnecessary right now, especially when there is a lack of public transportation in most other areas of the city.

Though it makes a lot of sense to have a system parallel to the suburban trains, it should not be our top priority at the moment.

Abhishek901

September 9th, 2009, 09:43 AM

There could be market segmentation with the suburban trains catering to one economic stratum and the metro catering to another by pricing them differently.

When the traffic is huge it does make sense. Besides, elevated metro routes may not be affected by heavy downpours that bring suburban trains to a standstill every monsoon. Think about the losses from bringing our commercial hub to a standstill by a rain induced bandh. Don't know how the underground stations would deal with it though.
Even from security standpoint it makes sense to not have one transport lifeline which if paralyzed by an unfortunate incident can lead to chaos.

Don't worry, underground stations in modern metro systems are not affected by heavy rains.

shanware

September 9th, 2009, 09:48 AM

What areas do you have in mind ? I think Ghatkopar-Versova and Charkop-Bandra-Mankhurd should satisfy your criteria of covering previously untapped areas. I actually was of the opinion that the present monorail corridoor of Jacob Circle-Chembur would have been better served by a metro and the Colaba-Bandra corridoor instead by a monorail. We do need additional lines of North-South traffic though given that in the conceivable future that is the direction most Mumbai-wasis will travel. IMHO the Hutatma chowk-Ghatkopar-Mulund and a Wadala-Nhava Sheva-Navi Mumbai link would be absolutely essential for the long term survival of the metropolis.

Bombay Boy

September 9th, 2009, 10:35 AM

colaba-bandra cant be monorail. it has to be underground

the only metro route out of 9 that could be said to be parallel to the existing suburban railways is colaba-bandra. and its parallel, not right under it. the island city is extremely elongated so you would expect metro lines in the city to run north-south, much like manhattan. but the metro is a lot more to the west than the railway line and hence allows a different segment, and more importantly a rich car-driving segment, to take up public transport

shanware

September 11th, 2009, 08:48 AM

ExpressIndia.com (http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news/2km-stretch-gets-in-way-of-metroi-deadline-may-be-overshot/514798/)

2-km stretch gets in way of Metro-I, deadline may be overshot
Swapnil Rawal Posted: Sep 09, 2009 at 0501 hrs

Mumbai Mumbai’s first Metro project — a 11.2-km corridor from Versova to Ghatkopar via Andheri — scheduled to be completed by July 2010 may overshoot the deadline because of a 2-km stretch, according to officials.
The 2-km stretch on the route has still not been handed over by the nodal agency to the Mumbai Metro One Pvt Ltd (MMOPL), the Special Purpose Vehicle (SPV) formed by Reliance Infrastructure Ltd, Mumbai Metropolitan Region Development Authority (MMRDA) and Veolia Transport for the project.

According to MMOPL, the Right Of Way (ROW) is now “desperately” needed for construction on the 2-km stretch. “The ROW from Navrang Cinema to Andheri SV Road and Saki Naka to Asalpha to LBS Marg, which is a 2-km stretch, is still not given to us for construction,” said a senior MMOPL official.

The MMRDA is still to resettle project affected persons (PAPs) including shopkeepers and residents on J P Road, Andheri and hand over the stretch near Andheri station on both east and west sides. Also the stretch from Saki Naka to LBS Marg is undergoing road-widening work and would not be handed over until it’s finished.

The MMOPL began construction of the corridor in February 2008 but has been awaiting the handover of some portion of the alignment. “We desperately need the remaining ROW and we’ve conveyed this to MMRDA time and again. So far we’ve not received any time frame within which they would hand it over,” the official added. He added that with every passing day, without the entire ROW, the schedule is being thrown out of track and that could lead to a delay in finishing the corridor by July 2010. “It is certainly getting difficult by the day to keep up with the deadline. We’re trying our best to finish it on time, but we need the remaining ROW at the earliest,” the official said.

Meanwhile, the MMRDA maintains that the project will be completed on schedule and the remaining ROW handed over in two months. “Of the 11.2-km stretch, over 9 kilometres have been handed over to MMOPL. The remaining ROW, in pockets, will be handed over step by step in a month or two,” said Ashwini Bhide, Joint Metropolitan Commissioner, MMRDA.

According to Bhide, giving out entire ROW is not practical as barricading the entire alignment with narrow roads will not be allowed by traffic police. She added, “We’re not deliberately holding up the entire ROW; at some places MMRDA’s road widening work is going on. In some stretches PAPs have gone to appeal or traffic police have not given permission. These issues are being resolved and gradually the ROW will be handed over step by step.”

IchimaruGin1

September 11th, 2009, 10:20 AM

with all these new lines they need to massively upgrade ghatkopar station. If we include the metro lines all of a sudden the importance of Dadar as a junction is massivly reduced and placed upon Ghatkopar and Bandra. In its current state you will have over crowding of epic proportions at Ghatkopar.

I feel overall this metro is not that well planned as it has not recognised the regions of commerce within the city.

Clearly 10-20 years down the line Kurla will add more office space than any other location in the city and will upstage Nariman point at some stage down the line.

http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/mumbai%5Cs-eastern-suburbs-take-centrestage/369754/

with this in mind, what connectivity is there between south mumbai (especially churchgate) and Kurla? You end up having to change at Dadar.

The planners need to build the metro around places which in the future will be leaders in office space. Yet i find most of the metro is concentrated to connect to a per congested South mumbai.

secondly, why make ghatkopar a junction in the first place? Why not make kurla a junction? If i want to get from say andheri to Kurla I have to take the metro till Ghatkopar change there and take another train or metro line to Kurla.?

whats the point of the mulund to ghatkopar line? Fine you will save 5 mins as the train will be faster. Thats about it.

shanware

September 11th, 2009, 10:29 AM

IchimaruGin1

September 11th, 2009, 10:37 AM

^^Interesting you say that. I was just reading the following article

http://business.rediff.com/slide-show/2009/sep/11/slide-show-1-eastern-suburb-to-be-mumbais-next-commercial-hub.htm

I think there is a genuine effort to create a number of new commerical areas in Mumbai as alternatives to the Nariman point-BKC centers. How well reality mirrors these beautiful plans will be interesting to see.

in my book its about which place has the space and which place does not.

Clearly the planners need to decide, once and for all. Why people use the rail lines? to get to work.

See now if I work at the Bandra kurla complex which is about 1.5 km from kurla station , if i live in mulund and i use the metro, to get to kurla I get down at Ghatkopar and then have to take another train to kurla.

Whats the point of that? might as well take a normal train directly to kurla.

What they have done is indentified Andheri as a centre of commerce. Which imo is a big mistake as kurla will be closer to a much bigger development for office space.

Let office space potential dictate the junctions, not populace.

bhargavsura

September 11th, 2009, 02:22 PM

in my book its about which place has the space and which place does not.

Clearly the planners need to decide, once and for all. Why people use the rail lines? to get to work.

See now if I work at the Bandra kurla complex which is about 1.5 km from kurla station , if i live in mulund and i use the metro, to get to kurla I get down at Ghatkopar and then have to take another train to kurla.

Whats the point of that? might as well take a normal train directly to kurla.

For your case, you can do that.

But in order to make Metro reach many parts of the city, direct connections is not possible. At some place a traveler will have to change the trains because what if he's traveling from east to the west and then he wants to go north?

What they have done is indentified Andheri as a centre of commerce. Which imo is a big mistake as kurla will be closer to a much bigger development for office space.

Let office space potential dictate the junctions, not populace.

Andheri is still more of a commercial region. Kurla is developing slowly. Metro needs to pick up the office goers from stations like Andheri and drop it off at Kurla, not the other way around.

IchimaruGin1

September 11th, 2009, 09:19 PM

For your case, you can do that.

But in order to make Metro reach many parts of the city, direct connections is not possible. At some place a traveler will have to change the trains because what if he's traveling from east to the west and then he wants to go north?

Andheri is still more of a commercial region. Kurla is developing slowly. Metro needs to pick up the office goers from stations like Andheri and drop it off at Kurla, not the other way around.

I dont agree to this connect various part of the city approach. Mumbai area wise is a very small city. even the unconnected part are probably within 2-3 km of a station and can surely make use of a bus to get to them.

Also which parts might they be? The unconnected parts that is? I am looking at a map and cant find any real ones apart from navi mumbai?

Fair enough increasing east west burb connectivity makes perfect sense. Freaking build a line from Mulund or thane to Borivali. (depending on potential passenger use)

shanware

September 11th, 2009, 11:10 PM

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Itch,

What do you propose we should have done ? Can you suggest some solutions ?

IchimaruGin1

September 12th, 2009, 10:57 AM

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Itch,

What do you propose we should have done ? Can you suggest some solutions ?

Build the around Bandra and Kurla, instead of Ghatkopar make kurla along with Bandra a major junction.

I never understood why ghatkopar of all places was given so much importance.

They will build from mulund to ghatkopar a metro line. Whats the logic in ignoring a major station like thane? I would extend it from Thane (a city with much bigger population) to kurla.

Even with the metro mumbai airport has poor rail connectivity to the hotels and centres of commerce. You will have to hitch a ride at various connections to Bandra or Ghatkopar.

Maybe an independent line from the airport to churchgate (nearest station to nariman point.) With only 2-3 stops in between encompassing Worli Marine lines.

this is mainly to cater to the buiness travellers. the tourists etc can make their own way.

As a last stage to that project connect Thane to Dahisar along Mira road and Bhayandar and connect all the suburbs up in a circular line. Similar to the London underground circle line. Again the economic realities of such a route need to be accessed.

Plus I would reduce the number of stations on the Ghatkopar Versova line. There are 12 stations in a strech of 11.4km. Nearly 1km between stations. It takes 15min to walk one km for a normal person. Make the number of stations about 7-8 and that will be enough. A metro is meant to be fast. With so many stops you might as well have a normal slow train cause by the time you accelerate your braking for the stop. 21 minutes given on the metro website to travel 11.4 km is too slow.

Vkumar

September 12th, 2009, 01:42 PM

IchimaruGin1

September 12th, 2009, 03:35 PM

Isnt 11.4 kms too less for a city of Mumbais stature. The locals are as it is very crowded.. Is ther a reason why this was restricted to 11.4 kms in the first phase.. If this has been answered before, I would appreciate if someone can guide me to the page on which it has been answered... I found this a little strange when other smaller cities are covering more distance in their first phase of the metro

other cities dont have a relatively comprehension suberban system

No idea why they restricted to so less in phase one.

Kewl Batty

September 13th, 2009, 12:59 AM

Schindler to supply key infrastructure projects in India (http://home.nestor.minsk.by/build/news/2009/09/0104.html)

India is investing substantial sums in infrastructure to promote economic growth, and Swiss elevator and escalator maker Schindler has been chosen as mobility provider for three major projects, including the metros of Mumbai and Delhi as well as a new terminal for Chennai (formerly Madras) airport. The contracts were concluded in the first half of 2009 and installation of elevators and escalators is due to start later this year.

With the Mumbai metro rail project, the world's third-largest city is to get its own mass transit system. The first line to be installed – from west to east (Versova to Ghatkopar) – is expected to cut the journey time across the city from 90 minutes at present (by road) to just 21 minutes. With trains at 3.5-minute intervals, the line will be able to transport about 600,000 people per day.

Schindler is supplying 97 escalators for the new line's 12 stations, which will all be elevated above ground to facilitate connections to buses, cars and other forms of transport. The first Schindler installations will be installed in November 2009. The line, scheduled for completion in 2011, is the first of several planned for the new metro system, which will complement Mumbai's suburban rail system and network of buses. Currently, 11 million people use Mumbai's public transport services daily.

Schindler is also supplying 53 escalators for the Delhi Airport Metro Express Line (DAMEL), the latest extension to the capital's expanding metro system. The new 23km line, scheduled for completion in October 2010, will create a rail link to Indira Gandhi International airport. Three metro stations out of the six along the new line will have baggage check-in facilities for airline passengers. Schindler's installations are due to start being installed from December 2009.

A third infrastructure project secured by Schindler is a new terminal for Chennai airport, the country's third busiest after Mumbai and Delhi. The expansion project will boost passenger capacity from 10 million at present to 30 million annually by completion in January 2011. Schindler is to supply 41 elevators and 12 escalators for a new 140, 000 square-meter terminal building, with installation scheduled to start in June 2010.

Abhishek901

September 13th, 2009, 05:50 AM

Isnt 11.4 kms too less for a city of Mumbais stature. The locals are as it is very crowded.. Is ther a reason why this was restricted to 11.4 kms in the first phase.. If this has been answered before, I would appreciate if someone can guide me to the page on which it has been answered... I found this a little strange when other smaller cities are covering more distance in their first phase of the metro

The first phase has 2 more lines. 2nd line is Charkop-Mankhurd, the tender of which have already been awarded (to RIL). 3rd line of Phase-I is Bandra-Colaba. There are in all 3 phases which cover 9 lines totalling 146.5 km. For more info see the first page of this thread.

Advait

September 14th, 2009, 01:23 AM

Isnt 11.4 kms too less for a city of Mumbais stature. The locals are as it is very crowded.. Is ther a reason why this was restricted to 11.4 kms in the first phase.. If this has been answered before, I would appreciate if someone can guide me to the page on which it has been answered... I found this a little strange when other smaller cities are covering more distance in their first phase of the metro

Mumbai metro is oriented mostly width-wise to complement the suburban trains which are oriented length-wise to the Mumbai city. The width being small and also the economic feasibility studies may not allow longer width-wise routes because home to work traffic is largely along the length of mumbai.

shanware

September 14th, 2009, 05:56 AM

Build the around Bandra and Kurla, instead of Ghatkopar make kurla along with Bandra a major junction.

I never understood why ghatkopar of all places was given so much importance.

The Versova-Ghatkopar line, I think, is an excellent idea. Why Ghatkopar ? Cause I think it suits a overhead metro, with MV road providing a 'wide' road on which to construct the metro. Andheri(East), SEEPZ and MIDC are significant 'work areas' that will be serviced by the metro. At the moment, people working here take auto/bus/car. The metro will reduce congestion on this route

They will build from mulund to ghatkopar a metro line. Whats the logic in ignoring a major station like thane? I would extend it from Thane (a city with much bigger population) to kurla.

My guess is Thane was left out because of the wrangling between the MMRDA and the TMC. I'm almost certain that when time comes to award the contract for the line that Thane will get included after a few dharnas and rasta rokos. I agree with your point though, Thane should have been included.

Even with the metro mumbai airport has poor rail connectivity to the hotels and centres of commerce. You will have to hitch a ride at various connections to Bandra or Ghatkopar.

Phase III has a proposed line from BKC to Kanjur marg. However, I agree with you. This is nowhere as much as the connectivity that is desirable for the airport. Ideally, the metro from the airport should go to a metro junction with good connectivity. For example, someone traveling from airport to South mumbai after phase III completion might have to go to Kanjur marg/ BKC. Then go to Ghatkopar/Bandra and then to their respective destinations.
Maybe an independent line from the airport to churchgate (nearest station to nariman point.) With only 2-3 stops in between encompassing Worli Marine lines.

I'm not sure if the above is feasible.

this is mainly to cater to the buiness travellers. the tourists etc can make their own way.

A terminal-side monorail, running to the Andheri-Ghatkopar metro might not be a bad idea to start wth. what do you think ?

As a last stage to that project connect Thane to Dahisar along Mira road and Bhayandar and connect all the suburbs up in a circular line. Similar to the London underground circle line. Again the economic realities of such a route need to be accessed.

Again, I'm not sure if this is feasible in the current climate, given that we will have atleast 2 other east-west lines and neither Bhayander nor Thane are significant commercial areas at the moment.

Plus I would reduce the number of stations on the Ghatkopar Versova line. There are 12 stations in a strech of 11.4km. Nearly 1km between stations. It takes 15min to walk one km for a normal person. Make the number of stations about 7-8 and that will be enough. A metro is meant to be fast. With so many stops you might as well have a normal slow train cause by the time you accelerate your braking for the stop. 21 minutes given on the metro website to travel 11.4 km is too slow.

Here, I disagree with you. The value of a metro is only if the station is within walking distance for the traveller. 1 km between stations is plenty of distance IMHO. A metro is not mean to be fast, I think its supposed to be mass rapid transit. 21 minutes is not too bad for a comfortable journey fowllowed by a five minute walk. As against a 15 minute comfortable jouney followed by a 15 minute walk in the Mumbai sun :)

bhargavsura

September 14th, 2009, 07:12 AM

Build the around Bandra and Kurla, instead of Ghatkopar make kurla along with Bandra a major junction.

I never understood why ghatkopar of all places was given so much importance.

They will build from mulund to ghatkopar a metro line. Whats the logic in ignoring a major station like thane? I would extend it from Thane (a city with much bigger population) to kurla.

For something like Ghatkopar, their first basic idea is to get the east-west suburbs connected. This is, I guess the first step towards the Mumbai metro all around. What I am thinking is that they have laid Ghatkopar as a platform and they will be building lines in the Central suburbs when needed. And it absolutely makes sense. In the past while traveling to Ghatkopar, it used to take me an hour thirty minuted to reach home by bus. Now, it's going to take probably 40 minutes in the Metro (when the Charkop line comes up). The reason they haven't started with Thane is because it would be a long route to connect Thane to Versova or Andheri.

Even with the metro, mumbai airport has poor rail connectivity to the hotels and centres of commerce. You will have to hitch a ride at various connections to Bandra or Ghatkopar.

Like I said before, changing the trains are common and there's no other possible option.

Plus I would reduce the number of stations on the Ghatkopar Versova line. There are 12 stations in a strech of 11.4km. Nearly 1km between stations. It takes 15min to walk one km for a normal person. Make the number of stations about 7-8 and that will be enough. A metro is meant to be fast. With so many stops you might as well have a normal slow train cause by the time you accelerate your braking for the stop. 21 minutes given on the metro website to travel 11.4 km is too slow.

How much time would it normally take to travel 12 km by road. An hour and a half? 45 minutes? Metro's reducing the time by half.

Bombay Boy

September 14th, 2009, 11:13 AM

on that 11.4 km route by road anything less than 2 hours is good

IchimaruGin1

September 16th, 2009, 12:03 PM

All points noted and firstly thanks for the replies.

I agree with shanware sir and bhargav sir have provided about ghatkopar. I did not know that.

But the point about taking connects at from the airport is not at all optimum as I assume many travellers will have some form of light suitcases and bags with them. The only option for the moment is a taxi ride.

Disgree on the number of stations etc. The name says mass RAPID transit. 11.4 km in 21 minutes means

km/time in hours= speed

11.4/ (21/60)= about 32 km per hour speed or for our non metric friends 20miles an hour.

Thats really slow guys. Tell me whats a point of a top notch rolling stock if you want to make them ply so slowly? Might as well buy a dirst cheap rolling stock

To put things is perspective even the slow lines on the suberban railway run at 35 km an hour. You people are giving me and example of how long it take by road.

I will give you an example of how long it takes from the eastern suberbs to the western ones by train. Just change at dadar where the train frequency is high so your not left waiting around. Your just saving the time of hmm about 5-6 stations which is like 10 min.

Do we really need stations at subhash nagar? a place which is less and a km from ghatkopar station?

Advait

September 16th, 2009, 01:36 PM

Disgree on the number of stations etc. The name says mass RAPID transit. 11.4 km in 21 minutes means

km/time in hours= speed

11.4/ (21/60)= about 32 km per hour speed or for our non metric friends 20miles an hour.

Thats really slow guys. Tell me whats a point of a top notch rolling stock if you want to make them ply so slowly? Might as well buy a dirst cheap rolling stock

You are talking about average speed being lower than maximum speed. Isn't that true even for a bullet train?
If average speed is too low compared to maximum speed it is possible for a slower rolling stock to give same average speed, in this case 32km/hr.

Those guys in metro would be doing their mechanics problems right. BTW it is a chinese rolling stock. The cost would be the least anyways.

Success of a public transport depends on how many people it is able to cater to numerically and accross the geography. This is an optimization problem. But 1 km is normal separation for metro stations. Have seen it elsewhere.

Bombay Boy

September 16th, 2009, 01:56 PM

rather i get stations closer to where i need to get off than save 2-3 minutes on a 21 minute journey. number of stations on a 11 km stretch does not really make a huge difference to overall time savings, unless you have only 2-3 stations. considering its a city metro system and not an inter-city train service i would rather deal with less walking to and from the station than miniscule savings in time

shanware

September 16th, 2009, 02:08 PM

^^ditto that

Kewl Batty

September 17th, 2009, 01:25 AM

No Metro in Navi Mumbai, CR to continue with suburban rly plan (http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news/no-metro-in-navi-mumbai-cr-to-continue-with-suburban-rly-plan/516999/)

Mumbai The first Metro project of Navi Mumbai hit a roadblock, long before the work has begun. The City and Industrial Development Corporation (CIDCO), which is supposed to carry out the work, has decided to drop the plan for Nerul-Seawoods-Uran Metro corridor, according to sources. Instead, the Central Railway (CR) will resume the work on the suburban railway system on this section.

“As of now, we have decided to go ahead with the suburban railway system on this section,” said B B Mehta, additional chief engineer (railway projects), CIDCO. “In future, if the need arises, we would construct Metro also on this section,” he added.

Before CIDCO opted for the Metro, the original plan was a Rs 495-crore Belapur-Seawood-Uran double railway line, approved in 1996-97, for which CIDCO was supposed to pay Rs 331 crore and Central Railway Rs 163 crore.

The project took time to materialise and the cost spiralled to Rs 1,480 crore, leading to CIDCO looking for an alternative. The Metro was to have a station at the proposed Navi Mumbai airport.

However, the railways by then had already invested Rs 50 crore and CIDCO Rs 75 crore on the project. Three Road over Bridges (ROBs), 15 road underpasses, the bridge over the Ulve creek, four major bridges and 73 minor bridges had been constructed.

On July 18, Newsline had reported that CIDCO is reconsidering its decision on constructing a Metro rail on the Nerul- Seawoods- Uran corridor. The union cabinet committee on infrastructure in its meeting in August had also discussed the project. After a series of meetings with the state government and Indian Railway, “the CIDCO has agreed to withdraw the letter in which they had asked the railways to stop all the work on the project,” the cabinet committee stated.

Sources said the railways had to use arm-twisting tactics to bring the project back on track. “The state government had backed off from the existing project and it wanted to include the plan for 12-car rakes on harbour line in MUTP Phase II,” said a railway official. Though a letter from Chief Minister Ashok Chavan had urged the railways to include the plan in MUTP Phase II, the railways did not pay heed to him.

The CIDCO would now be spending Rs 977 crore on the project. “Even the railways have agreed to pay Rs 488 crore. So we have decided to go ahead with the suburban railway system on this route,” Mehta added.

bhargavsura

September 17th, 2009, 03:15 PM

All points noted and firstly thanks for the replies.

I agree with shanware sir and bhargav sir have provided about ghatkopar. I did not know that.

But the point about taking connects at from the airport is not at all optimum as I assume many travellers will have some form of light suitcases and bags with them. The only option for the moment is a taxi ride.

They are coming up with a Delhi Metro Express line which connects to the airport. I am pretty sure if they come up with something like in Mumbai, they will follow the same steps as of Delhi and moreover, it will be easier and convenient.

Disgree on the number of stations etc. The name says mass RAPID transit. 11.4 km in 21 minutes means

km/time in hours= speed

11.4/ (21/60)= about 32 km per hour speed or for our non metric friends 20miles an hour.

Thats really slow guys. Tell me whats a point of a top notch rolling stock if you want to make them ply so slowly? Might as well buy a dirst cheap rolling stock

Ichi Boss,

You also forgot the time to slow down when the train is approaching the station and when the train is picking up the speed from the station. In addition to this, the time when the train is halting at the station. So don't worry man, the train is going to travel at a good speed. Regarding the number of stations, it's just for the convenience of the people so that they don't have to travel 2 km in rickshaw and then take the metro and then get stuck in the traffic which is a common senario in the city.

IchimaruGin1

September 17th, 2009, 07:57 PM

all points are noted.

thanks for your replies.

vijayvmail

September 19th, 2009, 10:19 AM

We were discussing the Dabbawallahs of Mumbai.

Will the new metro trains have luggage car provisions? I understand that Dabbawallahs and other trades transport their goods using the current sub-urban networks. A lot of small traders transport vegetables, fruits and other goods through these trains. They are an integral part of our transport system. Will they be excluded from the new networks? What will happen if one day, the trains in the current suburban networks are also converted to metro style coaches?

I'm not sure if this has been discussed here before?

Bombay Boy

September 19th, 2009, 10:47 AM

interesting point. i doubt the metro will have them. and in the distant future if suburban coaches ever change over to metro style coaches they may consider an extra car only if there is sufficient demand at the time. who knows if the dabbawalla system will still be there at the time, or will it evolve into a different system

DaGaucho

September 20th, 2009, 06:24 PM

How do these luggage cars work? Do the Dabbawallahs jump off from a passenger car, sprint to their 'luggage' and have time to re-disembark from this area...all while the train makes a stop at a station?

We were discussing the Dabbawallahs of Mumbai.

Will the new metro trains have luggage car provisions? I understand that Dabbawallahs and other trades transport their goods using the current sub-urban networks. A lot of small traders transport vegetables, fruits and other goods through these trains. They are an integral part of our transport system. Will they be excluded from the new networks? What will happen if one day, the trains in the current suburban networks are also converted to metro style coaches?

I'm not sure if this has been discussed here before?

himmat113

September 21st, 2009, 06:36 AM

jpatokal

September 21st, 2009, 07:59 AM

What will happen if one day, the trains in the current suburban networks are also converted to metro style coaches?
The same as everywhere else in the world: small amounts of cargo will be carried by minivan/lorry, large amounts by dedicated freight trains. Mixing the two is stupid, since passengers can embark/alight very quickly, while loading and unloading cargo takes time and slows down the entire train.

inus2663

September 22nd, 2009, 12:04 AM

^^ I fully agree. Tradition is good to hold on to, but if it getting in the way of progress, then it must go. Put it in a museum along with all the other things that shouldn't still be regularly used.

Coolguyz

September 23rd, 2009, 01:52 PM

Construction pics on Andheri East side towards Marol naka
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/309507d528.jpg (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/)
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/60fbe63edf.jpg (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/)
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/1366f1e35a.jpg (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/)

Kewl Batty

September 23rd, 2009, 04:36 PM

Nice Pics and sleek design! :)

bhargavsura

September 23rd, 2009, 04:43 PM

Yeah.. Thanks Coolguys for giving periodic updates...

shanware

September 23rd, 2009, 05:18 PM

Thanks Coolguyz ! What would we do without you :)

qwertyasd

September 24th, 2009, 12:43 AM

thanks coolguyz!

looking awesome! i hope they give the complete right of way - i am sure they can finish by next october if that is true.

Abhishek901

September 24th, 2009, 09:05 AM

Just out of curiosity, Mumbai metro looks very similar to Delhi metro' Airport express. Also both have Reliance Energy as the main pvt. player. Though Airport express is being built by DMRC and Reliance Energy is only the operator there.

Mumbai metro
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/309507d528.jpg (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/)

Delhi metro Airport Express (cross-posted from Delhi metro thread)
http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/2077/dsc04506d.jpg

skdubai

September 24th, 2009, 09:19 AM

i thought reliance was building the delhi airport line, that would explain the design similarities... why change a good thing right?

dreadathecontrols

September 24th, 2009, 09:51 AM

great to see some pics.
At last

i've lost track of whats going on .
will I be able to get on a mumbai metro in febuary?

theres a plan here

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=608834&page=16

But too small for me to get it

And i couldnt make sense of this either.

.http://www.mumbaimetro1.com/HTML/index.html.

cheers d

Kewl Batty

September 24th, 2009, 12:03 PM

2-km stretch gets in way of Metro-I, deadline may be overshot (http://www.indianexpress.com/news/2km-stretch-gets-in-way-of-metroi-deadline-may-be-overshot/514798/2)

Mumbai’s first Metro project — a 11.2-km corridor from Versova to Ghatkopar via Andheri — scheduled to be completed by July 2010 may overshoot the deadline because of a 2-km stretch, according to officials.

The 2-km stretch on the route has still not been handed over by the nodal agency to the Mumbai Metro One Pvt Ltd (MMOPL), the Special Purpose Vehicle (SPV) formed by Reliance Infrastructure Ltd, Mumbai Metropolitan Region Development Authority (MMRDA) and Veolia Transport for the project.

According to MMOPL, the Right Of Way (ROW) is now “desperately” needed for construction on the 2-km stretch. “The ROW from Navrang Cinema to Andheri SV Road and Saki Naka to Asalpha to LBS Marg, which is a 2-km stretch, is still not given to us for construction,” said a senior MMOPL official.

The MMRDA is still to resettle project affected persons (PAPs) including shopkeepers and residents on J P Road, Andheri and hand over the stretch near Andheri station on both east and west sides. Also the stretch from Saki Naka to LBS Marg is undergoing road-widening work and would not be handed over until it’s finished.

The MMOPL began construction of the corridor in February 2008 but has been awaiting the handover of some portion of the alignment. “We desperately need the remaining ROW and we’ve conveyed this to MMRDA time and again. So far we’ve not received any time frame within which they would hand it over,” the official added. He added that with every passing day, without the entire ROW, the schedule is being thrown out of track and that could lead to a delay in finishing the corridor by July 2010. “It is certainly getting difficult by the day to keep up with the deadline. We’re trying our best to finish it on time, but we need the remaining ROW at the earliest,” the official said.

Meanwhile, the MMRDA maintains that the project will be completed on schedule and the remaining ROW handed over in two months. “Of the 11.2-km stretch, over 9 kilometres have been handed over to MMOPL. The remaining ROW, in pockets, will be handed over step by step in a month or two,” said Ashwini Bhide, Joint Metropolitan Commissioner, MMRDA.

According to Bhide, giving out entire ROW is not practical as barricading the entire alignment with narrow roads will not be allowed by traffic police. She added, “We’re not deliberately holding up the entire ROW; at some places MMRDA’s road widening work is going on. In some stretches PAPs have gone to appeal or traffic police have not given permission. These issues are being resolved and gradually the ROW will be handed over step by step.”

bains1971

September 24th, 2009, 12:05 PM

They are moving fast much faster than Delhi metro.

Cov Boy

September 24th, 2009, 01:48 PM

i've lost track of whats going on .
will I be able to get on a mumbai metro in febuary?

Thats way to ambitious, July 2010 is the estimated opening date, i reckon it will be delayed until end 2010.

bhargavsura

September 24th, 2009, 02:41 PM

Why am I not surprised? It was always expected that the deadline will not be achieved as scheduled.

dreadathecontrols

September 24th, 2009, 04:49 PM

Thats way to ambitious, July 2010 is the estimated opening date, i reckon it will be delayed until end 2010.

OK tah
d

qwertyasd

September 24th, 2009, 07:43 PM

OK tah
d

I think MMRDA's deadline is 2011 or something. July 2010 was Reliance's self-imposed deadline.

skdubai

September 24th, 2009, 09:58 PM

by the looks of things, reliance is going at a good pace.... it is mmrda which is causing the delays!! cant really blame reliance for the delays!!

vijkan

September 25th, 2009, 12:35 PM

Looking at the Pictures of Airport line and mumbai metro, isnt the method of construction used by Reliance better (in terms of time and money) to use than the one used by other metros like Delhi metro. It seems that it would be much faster and cheaper to construct this way and whole launching prosess would be quick. Looks are also better.

I am no expert. What are the expert opinions here.

antriksh_sfo

September 26th, 2009, 07:37 AM

I think MMRDA's deadline is 2011 or something. July 2010 was Reliance's self-imposed deadline.

Rest assured it is going to be Dec 2011.
Wat are we talking here, how many piles/piers/girders, station construction/depot construction/workshop-mainatenance stations %completion do we know? By seeing the update the overall progress just seems to be around 20% (Note: Ribbon cutting by Honarable MM Singh which he is good at, July 2006) for the last 3 yrs.

I was expecting Mumbai/B'lore will boast of Metro in addition Airports by the 2011 WC. But, Mumbai seems to be lagging in all teh infrastructure projects.

skdubai

September 26th, 2009, 02:32 PM

^^ the beauty of the ppp method is that the private operator will want the line up and running as soon as possible so that they can start generating their revenue. For this they will chase and do the work themselves if needed to finish on time and get started on time. I just hope the govt. works along with them!! Besides, they seem to be making good progress as it is, so no need to be so pessimistic..

Coolguyz

September 26th, 2009, 05:18 PM

Rest assured it is going to be Dec 2011.
Wat are we talking here, how many piles/piers/girders, station construction/depot construction/workshop-maintenance stations %completion do we know? By seeing the update the overall progress just seems to be around 20% (Note: Ribbon cutting by Honarable MM Singh which he is good at, July 2006) for the last 3 yrs.

I was expecting Mumbai/B'lore will boast of Metro in addition Airports by the 2011 WC. But, Mumbai seems to be lagging in all teh infrastructure projects.

Being a regular traveller on the stretch and seing the construction from the date it started that is around a year and a half back they are going great guns, leaving a few places in between all the pillars alongwith piers are up.The main thing that wont be of any hindrance to the project is that of PILs being filed by stupid orgainsations that would halt the project, they even changed the alignment on route which goes from west to east at andheri station to avoid PILs .Regarding updates on the percentage of work complete,D N nagar depot is coming up nicely, the construction site at Wadala is huge and there are stack of columns ready to be put on the pillars. The best thing about the construction site is that all the firms working on various infrastructure projects in the city have their plants set up over here. You have Simplex working for the metro, L & T working for monorail and J Kumar (the one who is building majority of skywalks and flyovers in the city) have its own site....too bad cant take any of the pictures of wats going inside as they have huge barricades built all over it.If you happened to travel by the site late night or early morning you will see huge Volvo, MAN trailers coming in and out of sites. So what I would like to conclude in the end is that Mumbai can expect to ride on its first metro by the end in 2010, cant confirm on the month though.

nirax

September 26th, 2009, 05:46 PM

@coolguys

plz post pics too if u can.

antriksh_sfo

September 26th, 2009, 06:14 PM

Being a regular traveller on the stretch and seing the construction..... cant confirm on the month though.
Buddy,
Post the pix if u can. That wud do the talking.
Just have a look at the Monorail thread, some guys posts a road Footover bridge/skywalk and says may be Monorailroad and discussion is continued the whole page and even the next page. There are no physical pic update from Mar till date except the underconstruction depot of Monorail.
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=608834&page=15
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=608834&page=14
I wud be happy about to see the progress as stated by you.

shanware

September 26th, 2009, 06:39 PM

Dude, he's the only guy posting pics. And they do talk. Its not his fault if he can't post pics of the monorail. He's only making a point about the metro and I think its well made.

Buddy,
Post the pix if u can. That wud do the talking.
Just have a look at the Monorail thread, some guys posts a road Footover bridge/skywalk and says may be Monorailroad and discussion is continued the whole page and even the next page. There are no physical pic update from Mar till date except the underconstruction depot of Monorail.
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=608834&page=15
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=608834&page=14
I wud be happy about to see the progress as stated by you.

Coolguyz

September 26th, 2009, 06:45 PM

Buddy,
Post the pix if u can. That wud do the talking.
Just have a look at the Monorail thread, some guys posts a road Footover bridge/skywalk and says may be Monorailroad and discussion is continued the whole page and even the next page. There are no physical pic update from Mar till date except the underconstruction depot of Monorail.
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=608834&page=15
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=608834&page=14
I wud be happy about to see the progress as stated by you.

Monorail construction has started only at wadala side, they haven't constructed any full size pillars, but they have dug up the foundations at equal distance. Considering the fact that the foundation stone was laid in Feb 09 they have made a lot of progess, plus they werent allowed to dug up in south mumbai in monsoon, so 4 months lost in that but as I said they used those months in building the depot and secuiring the land for constrution purposes. Now that the monsoons are over, the real deal with start, will keep updating once I see major construction happening.

antriksh_sfo

September 27th, 2009, 07:15 AM

Monorail construction has started only at wadala side, they haven't constructed any full size pillars, but they have dug up the foundations at equal distance. Considering the fact that the foundation stone was laid in Feb 09 they have made a lot of progess, plus they werent allowed to dug up in south mumbai in monsoon, so 4 months lost in that but as I said they used those months in building the depot and secuiring the land for constrution purposes. Now that the monsoons are over, the real deal with start, will keep updating once I see major construction happening.
See here comes some facts, weather effects and so on. Thanks for the clarification buddy.
Off the topic, U hav any idea wat happened to the BKC Reliance Exhibition Centre, the construction status, this again has been more than 2yrs since awarded and there ha sbeen no land aquaistion or environmental issues either. I posted the question in Mumbai projects, but guys don't seem to hav a update. Post them Mumbai Project thread if you have any practical activity details.