Dirty new yorker
August 19th, 2011, 03:45 AM
good to see 23rd floor going up :) Love this one!
Ummm... :( :(
Ummm... :( :(
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View Full Version : DUBAI | The Pentominium | 516m | 1693ft | 122 fl | On Hold Dirty new yorker August 19th, 2011, 03:45 AM good to see 23rd floor going up :) Love this one! Ummm... :( :( Daireon August 19th, 2011, 04:09 AM what? =/ Daireon August 19th, 2011, 04:10 AM i meant i love the tower, not 23rd floor.... IngMarco August 19th, 2011, 07:47 AM i meant i love the tower, not 23rd floor.... We know, but dirty new yorker is expressing his sadness because there's no floor going up, the construction has actually stopped. Imre August 19th, 2011, 11:31 AM 19/August/2011 Pentominium http://i56.tinypic.com/339nd6f.jpg http://i52.tinypic.com/2hfkmde.jpg http://i55.tinypic.com/xbcrix.jpg Dirty new yorker August 19th, 2011, 01:40 PM i meant i love the tower, not 23rd floor.... Yes, if you read the comments right before you, theres some ugly news. It kinda made me sad to see that you were still excited and someone else would have to break it to you. Daireon August 21st, 2011, 02:59 AM damn...i did not read that :( So now what? we just wait? :( parsonsnose August 21st, 2011, 03:02 AM Well, it's either that or we go over there and build the forkin thing ourselves. ........ I'm for waiting. Daireon August 21st, 2011, 03:09 AM This is one of my favourites :( I can't believe it's on hold :( Dirty new yorker August 21st, 2011, 04:24 AM This is one of my favourites :( I can't believe it's on hold :( I think I'll just try to put it to the back of my mind and follow other projects. Oh well maybe well see a return in a few years. ironalbo August 21st, 2011, 05:04 AM when will be finished this wonderful tower?? Imre August 21st, 2011, 08:26 AM when will be finished this wonderful tower?? The question is now, when they will restart:) Sani Ramic August 21st, 2011, 08:44 AM The question is now, when they will restart:) And the other one, if they restart soon, can they support the same construction speed as before? Hopefully we get some informations about the duration cased by the contractor problems. ausie-dubai August 21st, 2011, 08:44 AM ^^ i believe it was schedueled to finish by 2014 however we will not have a very accurate guess as to when until it continues construction. Imre August 24th, 2011, 04:25 PM The project is now officially ON HOLD until further notice due to funding problems with the developer and that the Project Management team have all been laid off. germantower August 24th, 2011, 07:13 PM IMO we should rename the thread totle to ON HOLD and temporary close this thread until the pento restarts to prevent off topic bullshit. SirAdrian August 24th, 2011, 07:31 PM Damn that's bad news. KillerZavatar August 25th, 2011, 12:14 AM man again on hold, i wonder when it will be finished if it always delays construction Munwon August 25th, 2011, 12:16 AM Damn, Dubai builds that clock tower peice of crap and this work of art gets put on hold. Heart breaking... I give up on Dubai for awhile now. KillerZavatar August 25th, 2011, 12:28 AM Damn, Dubai builds that clock tower peice of crap and this work of art gets put on hold. Heart breaking... I give up on Dubai for awhile now. thats not dubais fault. its the fault of the people financing each project. Sid Vicious August 25th, 2011, 12:59 AM Damn, Dubai builds that clock tower peice of crap and this work of art gets put on hold. Heart breaking... I give up on Dubai for awhile now. ? it is in Mekkah, Saudi Arabia; I have the feeling that ALL projects in Dubai that arent topped out now will NEVER be finished. the property bubble has burst. everyone knows that far too many buildings have been built without the equivalent demand. maybe it would be better if they would tear down a few of them. Munwon August 25th, 2011, 01:47 AM No, I wasn't talking about the one in Mecca. I was talking about the London Bridge wanabe on SZR. I have a feeling Dubai is going to be like Dallas Texas in the future, big aviation hub but no more tall towers after the boom in the 80's. Very super sad about this. Sid Vicious August 25th, 2011, 01:49 AM double Sid Vicious August 25th, 2011, 01:51 AM ah, ok. yeah, that building is indeed horrible. krkseg1ops August 25th, 2011, 03:03 PM So should this not be put on hold then? Imre said this was being postponed indefinately so maybe let's move this thread to 'Proposed' section. No biggie, after all. no_gods August 26th, 2011, 02:30 PM This make me sade to see the Pentominium in this section (once again) zimna8080 August 26th, 2011, 02:52 PM No, I wasn't talking about the one in Mecca. I was talking about the London Bridge wanabe on SZR. I have a feeling Dubai is going to be like Dallas Texas in the future, big aviation hub but no more tall towers after the boom in the 80's. Very super sad about this. At first I was insulted, but now I realize you are correct about Dallas. Probably correct about Dubai, too, although their projects are far more spectacular than anything we ever did here. skyscraperhighrise August 27th, 2011, 01:34 AM No, I wasn't talking about the one in Mecca. I was talking about the London Bridge wanabe on SZR. I have a feeling Dubai is going to be like Dallas Texas in the future, big aviation hub but no more tall towers after the boom in the 80's. Very super sad about this. I Doubt it, dubai will never be dallas. Munwon August 27th, 2011, 08:27 AM At first I was insulted, but now I realize you are correct about Dallas. Probably correct about Dubai, too, although their projects are far more spectacular than anything we ever did here. Sorry, I wasn't trying to be rude. I was trying to make an comparison to what I believe will happen to Dubai in the future. azn_man12345 August 27th, 2011, 07:28 PM Sorry, I wasn't trying to be rude. I was trying to make an comparison to what I believe will happen to Dubai in the future. I do agree with you. In other cities, all of the supertalls have a "soul" or "personality". In Dubai, since they were all built basically at the same time, and there are just so many of them, they're all "lifeless" in a way. So far, the only exceptions seem to be BD and BAA. Kanto August 27th, 2011, 07:42 PM Well, I think that Dubai is a very beautiful city skyscraper wise. I'm very glad that they built the Burj Khalifa, which is a wonder of the modern world. Dubai is now paying the price for being a "trophy regal", full of skyscrapers with minimal demand. Dubai was literaly begging for a reality bubble with it's approach to skyscrapers. However, in Saudi Arabia we have a mega reality bubble round two comming. Saudi Arabia is experiencing wondrous times since the war in Libya started. This only strengthened their determination to walk in the footsteps of Dubai. The Abraj al Bait might be filled with tourists since Mecca is one of the biggest tourist hubs, but I can't imagine them having any major tenants for the Kingdom Tower. That tower is being built for the same reason for which Burj Khalifa was built ........ simply because it's possible with oil money and the current technology. azn_man12345 August 27th, 2011, 07:44 PM ^Mecca is not a tourist hub by any means. No one that isn't Muslim can't even enter it. And the Muslims don't come there to take pictures and view the history. They come there to pray. Kanto August 27th, 2011, 07:46 PM ^^ Religious tourism is still tourism :cheers: azn_man12345 August 27th, 2011, 07:49 PM Like I said, they're aren't coming there to take pictures and view the history. They come to pray. The Abraj Al Bait wasn't built to add to the skyline or anything. It was build because there were so many Muslims coming to pray and didn't have a place to stay. Kanto August 27th, 2011, 07:54 PM Well, as I said in my original post, demand isn't a problem for Abraj al Bait :cheers: azn_man12345 August 27th, 2011, 08:06 PM What? o.O Kanto August 27th, 2011, 08:29 PM Um, what what? :dunno: kingsc August 27th, 2011, 10:07 PM Ok back to pentominium. I'm a little surprise to see this back on hold. droneriot August 27th, 2011, 10:09 PM Especially after how fast it was going up. kingsc August 27th, 2011, 10:16 PM It did a double take, when I seen it in this section. I'm hoping it doesn't stay here long. Densetsu September 4th, 2011, 03:06 PM One of Dubai's best looking project and gets on hold. That's just sad. azn_man12345 September 4th, 2011, 07:20 PM Looks like that race with Shanghai Tower has been lost... :( This is really sad. I really liked this one. Kanto September 4th, 2011, 09:35 PM Bye bye Dubai skyscraper boom, welcome Dubai reality bubble :dunno: dachacon September 5th, 2011, 08:00 AM what is the vacancy rate for dubai condos? so to judge how long this will be on hold. Nerdy September 5th, 2011, 12:58 PM what is the vacancy rate for dubai condos? so to judge how long this will be on hold. I believe it's currently about 25% but that's not relevant to how long this project will be on hold. AltinD September 5th, 2011, 03:19 PM ^^ Wait a second, doesn't vacancy rate refers to how much of the available space is occupied? What a bollocks, do you really believe that 75% of residential and commercial space in town is empty? :lol: AltinD September 5th, 2011, 03:20 PM BTW, the construction is on hold but there are 30 levels build already. It certainly isn't a proposal, so why here? :nuts: patrykus September 5th, 2011, 03:43 PM You right this is as logical as keeping Burj khalifa in U/C section droneriot September 5th, 2011, 03:46 PM That a part of it has already been built does not matter. Chicago's Waterview Tower is in the "proposed" section, too. Here's where all projects that are not currently under construction go. Kanto September 5th, 2011, 06:27 PM Yeah but I think that there should be a subforum for on hold, never built and canceled projects too. Only proposed, approved or prepared projects should be over here :dunno: And btw, Burj Khalifa shouldn't be in the construction subforum either :dunno: lianli September 5th, 2011, 07:46 PM ^^ Wait a second, doesn't vacancy rate refers to how much of the available space is occupied? What a bollocks, do you really believe that 75% of residential and commercial space in town is empty? :lol: The vacancy rate refers to how much of the space is vacant. So it means that 75% are occupied. :) Nerdy September 6th, 2011, 12:16 PM ^^ Wait a second, doesn't vacancy rate refers to how much of the available space is occupied? What a bollocks, do you really believe that 75% of residential and commercial space in town is empty? :lol: A guest on Dubai Eye last week claimed 25% of residential is currently vacant. That is a 25% vacancy rate but as that's bollox perhaps you can explain better smart arse??? Nerdy September 6th, 2011, 12:28 PM That a part of it has already been built does not matter. Chicago's Waterview Tower is in the "proposed" section, too. Here's where all projects that are not currently under construction go. Also that a part has been built matters even less when it is apparaent that it doesn't really stack up as per the original design. Only half the units have been sold and they have all been sold to one buyer. charles54 September 6th, 2011, 02:05 PM i was shocked to see the tower on the proposed list its completed 23 floors!! patrykus September 6th, 2011, 02:13 PM So it's more logical to keep it in section for under construction towers ? Kanto September 6th, 2011, 02:42 PM ^^ It's more logical to create a new section for on hold canceled and visionary projects :dunno: AltinD September 6th, 2011, 02:45 PM That a part of it has already been built does not matter. Chicago's Waterview Tower is in the "proposed" section, too. Here's where all projects that are not currently under construction go. Then the name of the sub-section should be changed. Imre September 9th, 2011, 10:29 AM 9/September/2011 Pentominium, still ON HOLD http://i55.tinypic.com/9pv1hi.jpg http://i56.tinypic.com/10z20zq.jpg Divineator September 9th, 2011, 11:57 AM IMO I see no valid point in creating a completely new sub-forum just for the sake of a few cancelled/on hold projects who are considered "extra special" by some members. Perhaps the mods could just add a description for the "Proposed section" to "Also includes projects on hold and cancelled projects". SirAdrian September 10th, 2011, 12:47 PM Yes, that would be a more sane approach. miau September 10th, 2011, 02:52 PM Still on hold? That one hell of a long ramadan! droneriot September 10th, 2011, 03:09 PM The cessation of construction had nothing to do with Ramadan, it was a coincidence that both happened around the same time. The project went on hold due to a lack of funds. Blue Flame September 13th, 2011, 02:42 AM The cessation of construction had nothing to do with Ramadan, it was a coincidence that both happened around the same time. The project went on hold due to a lack of funds. ^^ The only real reason projects ever go on-hold. adam_uk September 13th, 2011, 10:36 PM this one is going up but very slow indeed. Dirty new yorker September 14th, 2011, 12:39 AM this one is going up but very slow indeed. Sooo... There has been progress? CULWULLA September 14th, 2011, 01:15 AM for what its worth http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6197/6128933810_994ee939eb_b.jpg Vector85 September 14th, 2011, 01:35 AM great !! no_gods September 15th, 2011, 08:59 PM feels bad man Nerdy September 20th, 2011, 10:53 AM Let's be clear. The Pentominium is now on hold indefinitely and if it is ever resumed it will not be built to the original design or height. I hope that clears everything up for everyone still speculating it is going ahead slowly because of ramadan. Move on, there's nothing to see here. aquablue September 20th, 2011, 08:57 PM What happened to that other ugly unfinished tower in that cluster, marina 101 I think? It is a terrible eyesore. This tower would have been the nicest tower IMO, the facade seems to be of higher quality than the other mostly concrete ones. azn_man12345 September 20th, 2011, 10:23 PM Let's be clear. The Pentominium is now on hold indefinitely and if it is ever resumed it will not be built to the original design or height. I hope that clears everything up for everyone still speculating it is going ahead slowly because of ramadan. Move on, there's nothing to see here. Why wouldn't it be built to it's original design/height? If the developer can get financing for it, then they can build it as they originally wanted. Can you elaborate more please? Kanto September 20th, 2011, 11:34 PM ^^ But can it get more financing? Will there be people who would like to live in Dubai? Dubai tried to become a center of the rich with tons of uber expensive residential space. The first recession hit it hard. Harder than the developers were willing to accept. Now they tried to make a second skyscraper boom there but it comes crashing down on them with the absence of funds. Even if there would be interest for expensive arabian residential space again there is still the threat of Saudi Arabia which is trying so much to beat Dubai in being the no.1 arabian country for rich people with their Kingdom Tower. Yeah, maybe they'll get funds to complete this building, maybe not. Maybe they make it smaller like in the case of the MetLife North building in NYC. Who knows? The only thing I dare to state is that in my opinion Dubai will never reach again it's glory from the times before the 2009 recession. xXFallenXx September 21st, 2011, 12:18 AM feels bad man Agreed. This was my favorite scraper going up in Dubai. :( Nerdy September 21st, 2011, 11:47 AM Why wouldn't it be built to it's original design/height? If the developer can get financing for it, then they can build it as they originally wanted. Can you elaborate more please? But they cannot finance it for the original design because the business case for it can never work... unless someone is planning to make a huge loss. I know the project inside out... it's never ever going to happen. Eric Offereins September 21st, 2011, 09:37 PM Pretty sad. This is the best project of the city IMO. :( yankeesfan1000 September 21st, 2011, 11:50 PM ...The only thing I dare to state is that in my opinion Dubai will never reach again it's glory from the times before the 2009 recession. Never thought I'd say this, but I agree with Kanto. I seriously doubt this gets built to full height. I can see a shortened version of this being built for sure, but how much shorter is anyones guess. In regard to financing, if they could get financing this wouldn't be on hold. This was probably my favorite project in Dubai so it's sad to see it be put on hold, but I honestly am not surprised. Building a 122 story skyscrapers in the midst of a global recession in an area largely surrounded by wide open desert isn't going to attract many investors. djm160190 September 23rd, 2011, 06:49 PM This project is definitely still on hold - there was no activity on the site when I was there last week. It's a shame because other than Infinity Tower there is nothing really special at the supertall block! http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6159/6175028340_eb61969103_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/djm160190/6175028340/) DSC03656 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/djm160190/6175028340/) by DJM160190 (http://www.flickr.com/people/djm160190/), on Flickr http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6168/6175041826_3233621631_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/djm160190/6175041826/) DSC03631 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/djm160190/6175041826/) by DJM160190 (http://www.flickr.com/people/djm160190/), on Flickr http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6157/6175042934_06b3a82189_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/djm160190/6175042934/) DSC03632 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/djm160190/6175042934/) by DJM160190 (http://www.flickr.com/people/djm160190/), on Flickr germantower September 24th, 2011, 10:45 AM ^^ I agree with you, most of the towers are rather lame. But (imo) the Ocean Heights's tower's cureves, are as sexy as Infinity's twist. Jay September 24th, 2011, 11:19 AM The cessation of construction had nothing to do with Ramadan, it was a coincidence that both happened around the same time. The project went on hold due to a lack of funds. you mean to tell me there's no demand for 30 100 storey buildings in a city with less than 1million people that recently went bankrupt?? gee, who'da thunk it:nuts: Imre September 24th, 2011, 06:17 PM This project is definitely still on hold - there was no activity on the site when I was there last week. It's a shame because other than Infinity Tower there is nothing really special at the supertall block! As the gossip says , developer boss already left the country and he is in Las Vegas now, its going to be ON HOLD for a long ... Imre September 24th, 2011, 06:19 PM 24/September/2011 Pentominium and Marina Arcade plot http://i55.tinypic.com/a3chu8.jpg germantower September 24th, 2011, 06:26 PM What are the plans for the arcade and Marina 106 Plot's, if they fail do develop them?! Some greenery would be nice, with water feautures, benches and so on. Kanto September 24th, 2011, 07:28 PM I wonder, how much does a flat in one of those towers cost? :dunno: AltinD September 30th, 2011, 10:06 PM The last few weeks I've seen the lights on the cranes were on, and I think that wasn't the case before. aade October 13th, 2011, 02:58 PM The last few weeks I've seen the lights on the cranes were on, and I think that wasn't the case before. So whats the situation? BRAMBLE October 18th, 2011, 09:44 AM So whats the situation? its on a life support system! :cripes: skyscraperlover9595 October 18th, 2011, 02:55 PM Just wanted to show this: http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5092/5387930669_d3e97468f7_b.jpg roogenial October 18th, 2011, 10:55 PM ^^ Wow Imre October 28th, 2011, 05:44 PM 28/October/2011 Pentominium http://i40.tinypic.com/25ic9sg.jpg Jay October 29th, 2011, 10:03 AM still on hold? Dirty new yorker October 29th, 2011, 03:31 PM ^^ sadly, and dont count on it coming back :( I've reduced myself to checking this thread every two weeks or so just because I want to just get it off my mind. germantower October 29th, 2011, 03:37 PM ^^ I feel the same. This one was my fav left project in Dubai, and it's design was/is superb, and would give the tallest block something fresh and innovative. Jay October 29th, 2011, 04:31 PM It would have been a cool looking building but it's notlike Dubai actually NEEDS another supertall... I still liked the way it looked though, and insane height dunefreezer October 29th, 2011, 06:37 PM ^^ sadly, and dont count on it coming back :( I've reduced myself to checking this thread every two weeks or so just because I want to just get it off my mind. Why wouldn't it be coming back, any specific reasons... The design is amazing. Dirty new yorker October 29th, 2011, 11:15 PM If you look a few pages back theirs lots of crummy news about the project and how they rarely see anyone on the sight. But with the news about lights being on the cranes, maybe there is hope. Dirty new yorker October 29th, 2011, 11:16 PM And yes I love the design, one of my favorites as well. oli83 October 31st, 2011, 11:03 AM Well, one day there will be demand for more space, and why starting a new building from ground level and not continuing one like this, which is already that far? Don't be too pessimistic, you just need a lot of patience! ^^ penanipa November 10th, 2011, 01:09 PM Well, one day there will be demand for more space, and why starting a new building from ground level and not continuing one like this, which is already that far? Don't be too pessimistic, you just need a lot of patience! ^^ ******** Sorry mate, we're just being realistic! If you only knew a bit more of the developer's current stage .... Bad planning, bad management, bad financing ... pretty much bad everything! The 22 & half story scelaton should be taken down right away! Kanto November 10th, 2011, 01:16 PM ^^ I disagree with you about that the building should be teared down. In my opinion if they don't have money to finish it they should just top it out where they are now and then finish it to this reduced height like they did with the Metlife North building in NYC :cheers: http://www.replicabuildings.com/prodimages/met-life-north-art-deco.jpg http://www.replicabuildings.com/prodimages/met-life-north-art-deco.jpg germantower November 10th, 2011, 01:20 PM ^^ I don't think/i assume that they even don't have the money for this solution. If this piece of unfinished tower stays there, it will also reduce the surrounding towers units worth. Who wants to live next to this concrete shell, and see it out of the window? Kanto November 10th, 2011, 02:03 PM ^^ I guess selling it to somebody is the only remaining option though maybe they might call in for help from their president like they did with Burj Khalifa (LOL, that's why it's named Khalifa) but I doubt that he would be willing to do anything more with it than just toping it out Metlife North style so I guess a full height Pentominium is now impossible for some decades :dunno: oli83 November 10th, 2011, 02:28 PM ******** Sorry mate, we're just being realistic! If you only knew a bit more of the developer's current stage .... Bad planning, bad management, bad financing ... pretty much bad everything! The 22 & half story scelaton should be taken down right away! Well, it doesn't have to be the same developer.. But if somebody is planning something new (in a few years, when there is new demand hopefully), it should definately be cheaper to proceed with this one instead of starting something completely new. Of course they can change the design/height to make it cheaper though. luci203 November 11th, 2011, 11:21 PM maybe they might call in for help from their president like they did with Burj Khalifa Burj Dubai was very advanced at the time they ask for help, not to mention BK is the other symbol of Dubai, the centerpiece of new downtown, while The Pentominium, as modern and big as it is, is a rezidential tower. (not the same priority) Mike____ November 12th, 2011, 06:27 AM ^^The next new york ? lol Dubai will never have the density that NY has... _______________ Too bad the pentominium is on hold.. would be the only good looking skyscraper in that cluster :/ Eastern37 November 12th, 2011, 08:53 AM ^^ Did he say it was dense? No! He was talking about the amount of buildings and the variations of architecture. :cheers: Imre November 12th, 2011, 03:09 PM 12/November/2011 23 Marina and Pentominium http://i44.tinypic.com/35d69us.jpg sheikbabysheik November 26th, 2011, 01:16 PM Trident partner and family already left the country a while ago (more than 2 months). Currently in North America. Don't hold your breath for this tower. tim1807 November 27th, 2011, 09:10 PM So, here is nothing to expect anymore, a great pity.:( SirAdrian November 27th, 2011, 11:30 PM Man that would suck, i could care less about the rest of the block, but not Pentominium :( reecebowker November 29th, 2011, 01:13 AM this building is a great looking building, it sucks that it has to be put on hold :( Woonsocket54 December 3rd, 2011, 08:32 AM where is the Pentominium? I only see a photo of Waterview Tower in Chicago. tim1807 December 3rd, 2011, 06:53 PM ^^What do you mean, the concrete structure is the Pentominium, maybe you mean the Al Seef tower in the foreground. I am he December 6th, 2011, 12:43 AM Dubai has turned to be next newyork now with lots of huge building with unique architecture too I personally think Dubai's architecture is far superior and more interesting than NYC's sprawling boxy mess :lol: reecebowker December 6th, 2011, 09:10 AM I personally think Dubai's architecture is far superior and more interesting than NYC's sprawling boxy mess :lol: new york has some wonderful architecture, what are you talking about. Jay December 6th, 2011, 12:19 PM I personally think Dubai's architecture is far superior and more interesting than NYC's sprawling boxy mess :lol: New York is the least "sprawling" city on the planet, it's right up there with Hong Kong and Tokyo as the densest urban area there is. There are a lot of boxes but also good looking towers as well, and old ones. Dubai is more like Los Angeles, granted with more tall buildings but still less athsetically pleasing IMO. Very tacky. CITYofDREAMS December 7th, 2011, 01:10 AM New York is the least "sprawling" city on the planet, it's right up there with Hong Kong and Tokyo as the densest urban area there is. There are a lot of boxes but also good looking towers as well, and old ones. Dubai is more like Los Angeles, granted with more tall buildings but still less athsetically pleasing IMO. Very tacky. You mean NY City, right? otherwise your statement is incorrect... The NY Metropolitan area sprawls much more than LA. Lion007 December 7th, 2011, 07:51 PM One day, Dubai will have the most skyscrapers. Every skyscraper has special form. Jay December 8th, 2011, 10:15 AM I really don't think so, remember what happened when Dubai crashed a few years ago. It's absurd to build all of these buildings with out any demand, at least in China they have a billion or so people who could eventually occupy them. Eric Offereins December 8th, 2011, 09:11 PM I personally think Dubai's architecture is far superior and more interesting than NYC's sprawling boxy mess :lol: sure :nuts: ZZ-II December 9th, 2011, 09:05 AM I personally think Dubai's architecture is far superior and more interesting than NYC's sprawling boxy mess :lol: Lol, not really in my opinion.... q12093487q December 9th, 2011, 10:16 AM One day, Dubai will have the most skyscrapers. Every skyscraper has special form. Chinese cities can beat Dubai easily if they want to,trust me. RobertWalpole December 10th, 2011, 01:13 PM I personally think Dubai's architecture is far superior and more interesting than NYC's sprawling boxy mess :lol: That's the statement of someone with an inferiority complex vis-a-vis NY. Piotrek00 December 10th, 2011, 07:26 PM One day, Dubai will have the most skyscrapers. Every skyscraper has special form. Chinese cities can beat Dubai easily if they want to,trust me. Actually they already did, and it won't change quickly: http://buildingdb.ctbuh.org/?do=graphs&graph=1 http://buildingdb.ctbuh.org/?do=graphs&graph=5 Qtya December 11th, 2011, 02:00 PM A couple of days ago... http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/8972/dsc0086a.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/88/dsc0086a.jpg/) http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/7222/dsc0087fh.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/202/dsc0087fh.jpg/) http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/8683/dsc0088jf.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/845/dsc0088jf.jpg/) Ms.Jan December 16th, 2011, 04:34 AM dubai never failed to make people say WOW..i admire the architectural taste of dubai.. Parisian Girl December 20th, 2011, 07:50 AM By Elizabeth Broomhall | Tuesday, 20 December 2011 9:20 AM Liquidity woes may push Dubai’s second tallest skyscraper, the Pentominium, past its completion date as developer Trident struggles with financing, the project manager said. http://www.arabianbusiness.com/cash-flow-problems-delay-dubai-skyscraper-435955.html Jay December 20th, 2011, 11:50 AM Kinda serves them right, as much as I like the design of this building, Dubai has waay too many skyscrapers for a city of only 1 million. China at least has lots of people to make the buildings useful. Kanto December 20th, 2011, 12:23 PM ^^ Dubai's hobby of making skyscrapers just outta fun without demand had to backfire on them sooner or later :storm: yankeesfan1000 December 20th, 2011, 02:53 PM Hate to say it, but this is not in the least bit surprising. blacktrojan3921 December 20th, 2011, 08:08 PM Kinda serves them right, as much as I like the design of this building, Dubai has waay too many skyscrapers for a city of only 1 million. China at least has lots of people to make the buildings useful. Technically Dubai has over 2 million, give or take ;) . And I imagine with such a cultural liberization due to the influx of foreign workers I'm willing to bet that the UAE is going to try and boost immigration numbers quite a bit for the future. skyscraperhighrise December 20th, 2011, 08:28 PM I'll take the Gulf of Oman in dubai anyday over that nasty polluted hudson river. Parisian Girl December 30th, 2011, 12:46 AM Kevin Brass | Dec 30, 2011 The developer of the world's tallest residential building under construction in Dubai Marina is in default on a Dh75 million (US$20.4m) loan. Trident International Holdings, which is building the Pentominium tower, is more than 200 days overdue on profit payments on the overdraft facility, according to Noor Islamic Bank. http://www.thenational.ae/business/property/tower-developer-in-default-on-dh75m-loan philipx December 30th, 2011, 03:23 PM When will this important building of dubai marina put back to under construction?Eh,perhaps this building cant become true,just like chicago spire? Tate December 30th, 2011, 06:24 PM Redesign? Downsized? It's anyones guess now what will happen here. Real shame though. Lion007 December 30th, 2011, 06:26 PM They started great.:banana: Eric Offereins December 31st, 2011, 03:06 PM ^^ and came to a dramatic end? :ohno: If the developer is in default, this could end up like the Waterview tower in Chicago. dunefreezer January 1st, 2012, 02:38 AM That sucks....This is the second supertall that was put on hold this year. germantower January 1st, 2012, 03:36 PM IMO the problem with this one was the concept behind it. Every appartment was sold as a penthouse without being one. The first 70 floors would have more or less no special views. Just facing other buildings walls and a slight view towards the sea and palm, except the units windows facing towards Burj Al Arab. Also, the design is a costly one, since it has many funky features. (imo the Pento was one of the best proposed buildings ever for Dubai). Furthermore, Dubai has an immense oversupply in residential units, and i cant see Trident making enough money out of 128units (afaik) from this building to even cover construction costs let alone making money with it. (what was there goal) I would glady hear news where the people behind trident are now, and whats happened with investor money. The last what i heard was that they are somwehere in NA. Thanks for further info in advance. my 2 cents cheers Danny yankeesfan1000 January 1st, 2012, 08:14 PM I agree with everything you said GT, this could've been the best super tall in Dubai. What I don't understand is why the Marina buildings were packed so closely together, and why wouldn't they situate them parallel to the beach so every building had an unobstructed view of water? Whatever. Too bad though, this could've been a real beauty. CantFindMe January 2nd, 2012, 12:48 AM they were packed so closely together because the developers and rulers of dubai were trying to mimic real cities like new york or chicago. ZZ-II January 2nd, 2012, 08:09 AM they were packed so closely together because the developers and rulers of dubai were trying to mimic real cities like new york or chicago. Good try, but it's not anywhere near like chicago or new york...it looks just ugly now in my eyes. goschio January 2nd, 2012, 08:56 AM they were packed so closely together because the developers and rulers of dubai were trying to mimic real cities like new york or chicago. But there it's mostly office towers packed together. Expensive highrise apartments need great views. germantower January 4th, 2012, 02:06 PM From the UAE section: http://www.emirates247.com/business/corporate/pentominium-owner-i-ll-be-back-to-finish-skyscraper-2012-01-04-1.435830 I don't think we can hope for a restart so soon. AEMV January 5th, 2012, 02:04 PM http://www.pentominium.com/images/floor-planes1_10.jpg http://www.pentominium.com/images/floor-planes_b.jpg http://www.pentominium.com/images/floor-planes_c.jpg DarkShadows1966 January 6th, 2012, 08:30 PM Why is this on hold? :( CantFindMe January 6th, 2012, 09:09 PM But there it's mostly office towers packed together. Expensive highrise apartments need great views. i know, but that is still the reason why. i understand your point. why the hell build what are supposed to be luxury appartments right next to eachother when you have kilometers of undeveloped open land? spectre000 January 6th, 2012, 11:33 PM Why is this on hold? :( The developer ran out of money. pablo2008 January 7th, 2012, 02:02 AM ^^ Does someone know about any other developer interested to continue with this project? Or maybe investors planning to downsize or change use of the tower (i.e. hotel or mixed use)? It's very sad seeing the project on-hold. CantFindMe January 7th, 2012, 03:30 AM ^^ Does someone know about any other developer interested to continue with this project? Or maybe investors planning to downsize or change use of the tower (i.e. hotel or mixed use)? It's very sad seeing the project on-hold. whats sad about seeing rationality and wise bussiness choices? theres no way this project would be profitable and thus no real reason to build it. if the developers of dubai developed with rationality in mind, dubai wouldnt have half of the buildings it has now. pablo2008 January 7th, 2012, 03:58 AM You're right. Real estate and construction is 100% business and must be profitable to the stockholders. Because this any project should be based in serious research and evaluation...financial, technical, market, scenario planning, etc. The issue I can't understand about many Dubai's developers is the lack of rationality you mention, maybe they are thinking about very-long-term development (i.e. when they will be out of oil) to re-focus the economy into other business or tourism, or perhaps only megalomania to show what they can do. Anyway, despite the above said, I like this tower and I'd like to see it finished. :) CantFindMe January 7th, 2012, 07:12 AM i like the design of this building too, and its a shame that it wasnt built rather than the horrid towers that have already been built in dubai. however, bussiness is bussiness and i think real estate shouldbe built based on demand, not ego. tim1807 January 7th, 2012, 12:03 PM Did the design phase cost so much? pablo2008 January 7th, 2012, 05:18 PM ^^ I don't have idea about this project, but in my construction project experience, the design phase (research, outline, basic engineering, detail engineering, legal, bidding process and contractor adjudication) costs not less than 15% of the total investment. Because this reason, it's a key issue the previous research and evaluation (i.e. market, finance, etc) BEFORE the engineering design. Imre January 13th, 2012, 04:33 PM 13/January/2012 Pentominium http://i44.tinypic.com/1zfswwm.jpg http://i44.tinypic.com/11kkvwj.jpg http://i40.tinypic.com/do8mxe.jpg Keyone January 15th, 2012, 06:02 PM January 12th http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/4426/113527106.1/0_87831_4c040528_XXXL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/keyone94/view/555057/) http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/keyone94/view/555057/ http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/5414/113527106.1/0_87832_d454c12_XXXL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/keyone94/view/555058/) http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/keyone94/view/555058/ KillerZavatar January 15th, 2012, 06:31 PM 13/January/2012 http://i44.tinypic.com/11kkvwj.jpg very symbolic. too bad its on hold :ohno: Imre February 3rd, 2012, 02:32 PM 3/February/2012 Pentominium http://i41.tinypic.com/vxyg3s.jpg Jay February 3rd, 2012, 02:49 PM it doesn't look any different Assemblage23 February 3rd, 2012, 02:53 PM Sooner or later, it'll be back in action. Just a matter of time. Jay February 3rd, 2012, 03:38 PM Yea but it could be a repeat of the Chicago watertower, IE. lowered height. :ohno: Imre February 3rd, 2012, 04:43 PM it doesn't look any different Sooner or later, it'll be back in action. Just a matter of time. Still the same and no sign about any movements here, it can be a very long story.. kony February 7th, 2012, 06:16 PM Wow 516 m ! That's crazy Kanto February 7th, 2012, 07:15 PM ^^ Unfortunately the financing of this tower is crazy too :hahano: Sani Ramic February 7th, 2012, 07:19 PM the financing not such a problem as thought if there is a use for a skyscraper full of penthouses, oversupply maybe in 3-4 years there will be a restart on this (nice, in my opinion) project. Imre February 10th, 2012, 02:18 PM 10/February/2012 Pentominium http://i41.tinypic.com/4vimps.jpg Jay February 15th, 2012, 04:54 PM uuh the developer fled the country... that's not really a good sign Kanto February 15th, 2012, 05:50 PM ^^ ROFLMAO, run Forrest, run! :hilarious AltinD February 15th, 2012, 06:32 PM uuh the developer fled the country... that's not really a good sign The developer was a Hong Kong resident actually (I think of Indian descent) ... but yeah, he's not in UAE anymore, and he says is out to try to raise financing for the tower. Imre February 24th, 2012, 12:59 PM 24/February/2012 Pentominium http://i42.tinypic.com/pt27l.jpg http://i43.tinypic.com/2igmvjq.jpg http://i40.tinypic.com/15z5p4y.jpg http://i40.tinypic.com/fvvakx.jpg Imre March 4th, 2012, 02:46 PM Last couple days I seen few workers there but not sure whats going on, maybe just a maintenance team? Also one day the car park front of the ACC site office was busy :) Sani Ramic March 4th, 2012, 06:23 PM Last couple days I seen few workers there but not sure whats going on, maybe just a maintenance team? Also one day the car park front of the ACC site office was busy :) i think this one was a maintenance team for the cranes cause of the annual maintenance. i saw a potain service car. but this is only speculation... hater March 5th, 2012, 10:29 AM hope the works will continue Thanial March 5th, 2012, 10:06 PM I also hope the work continues, but I would rather they merely decrease the height than change the design (should that be needed). Imre March 8th, 2012, 05:03 PM 08/March/2012 Pentominium http://i40.tinypic.com/2u3y3ip.jpg http://i43.tinypic.com/2q18c4x.jpg The-Real-Link March 8th, 2012, 10:14 PM So how long can all of the equipment safely just sit there? I'm sure what exists of that shell has long cured by now but I always imagine there being some kind of clean up once these jobs get back underway. I'm worried about the structure being weakened but then again I suppose how long has Waterview sat as-is? More than a year I think and yet they're planning to build with the existing building in place. I suppose other than the moisture it is good that Dubai's weather doesn't have temperate extremes like the midwest US. No snow / freeze-thaw to wreck havoc on your roads ;) ThatOneGuy March 8th, 2012, 10:23 PM So how long can all of the equipment safely just sit there? I'm sure what exists of that shell has long cured by now but I always imagine there being some kind of clean up once these jobs get back underway. I'm worried about the structure being weakened but then again I suppose how long has Waterview sat as-is? More than a year I think and yet they're planning to build with the existing building in place. I suppose other than the moisture it is good that Dubai's weather doesn't have temperate extremes like the midwest US. No snow / freeze-thaw to wreck havoc on your roads ;) The Ryugyong Hotel stood for more than 20 years abandoned and it is being completed. Jay March 9th, 2012, 05:07 AM The Ryugyong Hotel stood for more than 20 years abandoned and it is being completed. The Chicago Water Tower is also still standing and is likely to be shortened, the developer doesn't have any more money for this building. The-Real-Link March 10th, 2012, 03:47 AM The Chicago Water Tower is also still standing and is likely to be shortened, the developer doesn't have any more money for this building. Good points by both of you guys, thanks. I suppose with a little cleanup, a structure would be just fine once construction restarted. Forgot about the Ryugyong Hotel..duh, whoops ;) Thanks. Imre March 30th, 2012, 12:20 PM 30/March/2012 Pentominium http://i41.tinypic.com/2r3a5io.jpg http://i39.tinypic.com/nd9av9.jpg http://i44.tinypic.com/35lssjk.jpg DennisS April 1st, 2012, 06:06 PM Any sign of this construction going ahead, Imre? AltinD April 2nd, 2012, 06:16 PM nothing new here Imre April 13th, 2012, 11:55 AM 13/April/2012 Pentominium http://i44.tinypic.com/33p8289.jpg DarkShadows1966 April 14th, 2012, 07:13 AM Fuck, this is pitiful :( erbse April 14th, 2012, 11:51 PM Another landmark of Dubai's downfall, eh. RandomNameTag April 15th, 2012, 12:27 AM I still don't get why they started construction on this KNOWING that they would eventually run out of money. So stupid! comet the cat April 15th, 2012, 10:29 AM I still don't get why they started construction on this KNOWING that they would eventually run out of money. So stupid! :clown::clown::clown::clown::clown: Some people just want to watch the world burn. That's what happens when people are overconfident. AltinD April 15th, 2012, 10:33 AM Another landmark of Dubai's downfall, eh. :pet: erbse April 15th, 2012, 01:23 PM Seems like you've got some sort of erbse-Dubai-detector-trigger there eh, quite obviously ;) AltinD April 15th, 2012, 03:58 PM I'm here, and there, I'm everywhere Zuburbia May 6th, 2012, 09:22 PM Looks like another super slim building in dubai marina area...:nuts: Eric Offereins May 8th, 2012, 08:54 PM ^^ It's not slim for a while I guess. ;) Imre May 11th, 2012, 11:33 AM 11/May/2012 Pentominium http://i48.tinypic.com/2cqxv7q.jpg Senju May 11th, 2012, 01:06 PM But they still have cranes on top.....<shug> soup or man May 11th, 2012, 06:10 PM ^ The Ryugyong Hotel had one stuck for 20 years. But anyway, I was never a fan of this building to begin with though it sucks that it's halted construction but it's not surprising. Kanto May 12th, 2012, 02:12 PM How is it ugly? It is a brutalist supertall and I thought you liked that... I'll bet you subconsciously hate it for being in North Korea. And there are FAR uglier buildings, like the Grand Lisboa and that one skyscraper in Benidorm... In my opinion it is very far from being a brutalist building. In my opinion brutalist buildings have simple and functional shapes. The Slaughterhotel on the other hand has very wild shapes that have nothing to do with functionality. As to the Pentominium, even though it isn't a boxy building, I kinda liked it. In my opinion it definitely didn't deserve the cruel fate of being on hold with no perspective of ever getting built. roogenial May 12th, 2012, 04:12 PM I love this one. Imre May 25th, 2012, 01:53 PM 25/May/2012 Pentominium http://i49.tinypic.com/24w80vk.jpg http://i49.tinypic.com/efnlme.jpg fayzoon May 25th, 2012, 11:13 PM ^^ any changes ?? AltinD May 25th, 2012, 11:23 PM ^^ No, still on hold ZZ-II May 26th, 2012, 08:13 AM ^^ any changes ?? Compare with older pics from april, do you see changes? ;) |