^^ That's what "engineers" are for.

^^ That's what "engineers" are for.

yes i know that, but on your theory ........disasters never happen, i dont think so,the best design and engineers in the world make mistakes sometimes,i just hope and pray nothing goes tits up.......

yes i know that, but on your theory ........disasters never happen, i dont think so,the best design and engineers in the world make mistakes sometimes,i just hope and pray nothing goes tits up.......

look at what happened to this 58 floor building that was going up in Cartagena..had a little windstorm..

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=466621&page=2

^^ Well what you do is engineer something so that it exceeds the limits by a large margin. If you have a seismic fault that can produce 7.5 magnitude earthquakes, you engineer your structures for 8.5. If you have hurricanes that can bring 200kph winds, you build to withstand 300kph, etc. These guys are professionals. They know what they are doing.

Yes, the Pentominium is 'technically' taller.

Yes, the Pentominium is 'technically' taller.

You have it backwards. The Sears Tower is "technically" taller but it isn't actually taller because the antennas are removable.

Awesome.

Dubai is getting crazier by the day. The recent 2-3 years have been great for skyscrapers.

^^ I wish they stick to highest usable floor for comparing heights. IMO, thats the best measure.

John hancock was built in the 60's that 40 years ago. with primitive engineering and cnstruction techniques. these days concrete is very tough and concrete framed structures such as Burj Dubai or even Pentminium have minimum sway due to rigidness of concrete as apposed to twisty steel frame.
a 500m concrete skyscraper would be lucky to sway 1m, which would be unnoticable.

1m unnoticable, :lol: are you sure about that

Depends how fast it is. Distance in sway means absolutely nothing, it's the acceleration that matters. Generally a larger building will have a larger sway but since it's larger it'll also be much slower.

Think of it this way, what's worse, a building swaying 3m in the space of 30 seconds or 1 inch 10 times a second

We dont feel speed, we feel acceleration and deceleration in the form of g (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_gravity)

that's what I said

another mindblowing tower! amazing, go dubai!

^^ Well what you do is engineer something so that it exceeds the limits by a large margin. If you have a seismic fault that can produce 7.5 magnitude earthquakes, you engineer your structures for 8.5. If you have hurricanes that can bring 200kph winds, you build to withstand 300kph, etc. These guys are professionals. They know what they are doing.

I wonder about the engineers involved with that Cartagena project-what were they thinking? It is almost like the skyscraper equivalent of the Tacoma Narrows bridge..except this did not get finished and then completely collapse(fortunately). I actually like the Pentominium design myself.

^^ My friend this building is designed by World's FIFTH largest Architectural and Enginering firm (AEDAS), not by some cheap chaps.

^^ My friend this building is designed by World's FIFTH largest Architectural and Enginering firm (AEDAS), not by some cheap chaps.

Well I never implied that this tower was designed by anything less than the best..and I am sure this will turn out to be a wonderful tower. :)

what happened to C L A S P building, anyone know

I can't believe how tall this is going to be! it looks so skinny! Its friggin awesome looking... its kinda scary how tall it is... being so slender and all...

^^ if you think that's scary go look at the Burj Dubai

if your talking about skinny, look at rose rotana, dubai up close (in real life). it is actually sooooo skinny and on such a small footprint. kinda scary! this tower is soo amazing now, and the height is so great! the idea of the serrated edge does grow on you!

15/June/2007

The Pentominium

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^^ My friend this building is designed by World's FIFTH largest Architectural and Enginering firm (AEDAS), not by some cheap chaps.

you mean AEDAS is doing both archi and engineering design?

^^ No idea about the enginneering part, but they are the Architects. Maybe a quick look at their website might reveal something.

22/June/2007

SZR

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http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/3321/imresolt231kt4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

soooo nice..

but I cant help but wonder how much this tower is going to sway due to its slim and tall shape

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Bang & Olufsen in Dubai :nuts:

Thanks for the pixs by the way

^^ What is so strange about it ... I guess next will be: Carlsberg in Dubai :nuts:



:D

Spectacular design, lovely ...

:master:

^^ What is so strange about it ... I guess next will be: Carlsberg in Dubai :nuts:

Noting strange about it, just a bit funny to see B & O on a 516 meter tower poster, when you are from Denmark where there's nearly no real highrises. :lol:

Thanks Imre for your pics :)

haha
Yes, and the highest point in denmark only being like 170 metres
not joking !!!!

Why use Los Angeles as a background for their renders?

Anyways maybe the fact that its surrounded by supertalls, blocking out some direct exposure to winds which would its structural soundness? Sorry just an assumption, Im no engineer.

^^ Actually more towers means more, and much harder to predict during structural design, winds . :runaway:

ًٌDubai architects are proving to me every day they don't know what they are doing!

they just going higher and higher with out any engineering input.
those funny cantilever floors on the top will make many problems for 520m building like : sway , wind loads, differential settlement, seismic , progressive collapse...
and it will need a massive thickness of the shear walls ( may be 2m thick !) so see how much area u will lose !

So Mr.Architect did u consider those things? or u just made an new looking building to impress the client and the investors?

Architects are Arteaaasts :P ROFL ! what do they know ...

ًٌDubai architects are proving to me every day they don't know what they are doing!

they just going higher and higher with out any engineering input.
those funny cantilever floors on the top will make many problems for 520m building like : sway , wind loads, differential settlement, seismic , progressive collapse...
and it will need a massive thickness of the shear walls ( may be 2m thick !) so see how much area u will lose !

So Mr.Architect did u consider those things? or u just made an new looking building to impress the client and the investors?


So you, the Mr. NOT-AN-ARCHITECT considered all those factors and the REAL-ARCHITECTS didn't?

For god sake, I hope you didn't really meant what you just wrotte ... and the Architects are British. :D

So you, the Mr. NOT-AN-ARCHITECT considered all those factors and the REAL-ARCHITECTS didn't?

For god sake, I hope you didn't really meant what you just wrotte ... and the Architects are British. :D

I don't mean to disrespect the architects and no one can do. I am talking about architects how are not consider the engineering issues for this much height.

Expert high rise architects like SOM, Foster all there HR project has engineering input

for example burj dubai has different levels and triangle base to reducing the wind loads on the building.

See Taipei 101, Petronas .. or any super tall has the same thing.

peace architects :)

^^ Yeah but this building has been designed by AEDAS, World's 5th biggest Architectural and Design firm, not some small offices like ... I don't know ... Ziki Homsi ... :lol:

ًٌDubai architects are proving to me every day they don't know what they are doing!

they just going higher and higher with out any engineering input.
those funny cantilever floors on the top will make many problems for 520m building like : sway , wind loads, differential settlement, seismic , progressive collapse...
and it will need a massive thickness of the shear walls ( may be 2m thick !) so see how much area u will lose !

So Mr.Architect did u consider those things? or u just made an new looking building to impress the client and the investors?

2m thick shearwalls, are you nuts? :bash:
The times of C55 concrete are over. For this tower they'll use C100 or C150 concrete. Which is about 2 to 3 times stronger. To accomplish those cantilever floors they can use fibers instead of steel rebar. While rebar can take loads upto 500 N/mm2 those fibers can take loads upto 3,0 kN/mm2. This means that the tower can take much more stress. This tower is possible to build. If not I would like to get some detailed arguments instead of loose shouts.

I don't doubt that this is possible to build, as Altin said the architecture firm isn't just some small random one so they're sure to have engineering input. I do fear it won't be built though because although possible to build, it'll be very expensive. At over 500m and with such a design, and considering all the expensive interiors it'll surely cost over $1bn to build, even in Dubai. There are 160 apartments in this tower and they're selling from $2m upwards, of course the penthouse would go for way more so pretend the average price is $4m. 4*160 = 640, definitely not enough.
The developer behind this (trident) is reliable though and this probably has a much better chance of being built than say, ocean heights 2 by Damac. All of trident's projects except for this one are under construction and when they speak of quality they mean it. :yes:

It'd be amazing if this does get built as it'd really push the woah factor of the upper marina

2m thick shearwalls, are you nuts? :bash:
The times of C55 concrete are over. For this tower they'll use C100 or ASTM C150 concrete. Which is about 2 to 3 times stronger. To accomplish those cantilever floors they can use fibers instead of steel rebar. While rebar can take loads upto 500 N/mm2 those fibers can take loads upto 3,0 kN/mm2. This means that the tower can take much more stress. This tower is possible to build. If not I would like to get some detailed arguments instead of loose shouts.

Oh yah ur talking about gravity stuff buddy , what about Lateral stability ? supporting the cantilevers are not an issue but it will let building to move in Dead Load so see that +wind & seismic how to maintain that ? outrigger will not work cuz columns not going from top to base so probably only central core will be in trouble and it doesnt matter the concrete grade cuz inertia is needed and this residential building so see how many riser , busbar , ducts all will run inside the core

sure Building can be build, actually any funny thing can be build but that much of materials which will be used can build 2 with same height. and they can stay 100yrs instead of 30yrs.

^^ The core of the tower is situated directly to the point where the tower meets the cantilever floors. This way the torsion forces on the core are kept small. The core of the tower has a oval shape which is more torsionstiff than a rectangular core.
I agree with your point that they can build more towers with easier shapes, but aesthetically this one is nicer ;)

Wind and air flow can be manipulated to suit your needs. The Automotive design has done that for a century and so also the architecture.

many architects doing a very nice touch without all those issues.

but if everyone is happy with the price , I am out of here :D

This is NOT impossible to build, I have to believe that those designing the tower knew what they were doing, and I wouldn't question ANYONE making skyscrapers in Dubai, they seem to be very good at it, wouldn't you say? :lol:

03/Aug/2007

The Pentominium

still nothing

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Imre Imre Imre... You always put a smile on my face :)

Thanks for letting us seeing the Pentimonium site :D

cheers :cheers:

Thanks for letting us seeing the Pentimonium site :D


I'd rather see a Pentominium actually being on it.:)

seems they're cleaning the site

Only $2m for one of those penthouses?! That's amazingly cheap! What are the prices like for places in Dubai? Are all of them that inexpensive due to the massive supply?

This tower is so impressive. I think it is by far the best design in Dubai. :shocked:

Only $2m for one of those penthouses?! That's amazingly cheap! What are the prices like for places in Dubai? Are all of them that inexpensive due to the massive supply?

Actually, that's too expensive for Dubai...Dubai is not London, New York, Hong Kong or Sydney..... :ohno:

Actually, that's too expensive for Dubai...Dubai is not London, New York, Hong Kong or Sydney..... :ohno:

mate you have no idea, there are many many properties for sale in Dubai over $10mil

Please don't take this the wrong way but I have a question...is it Dubai's intention to hold every height record in every building category without contest ?

is it Dubai's intention to hold every height record in every building category without contest ?
Probably, but with this tower since this one's being built by a private developer who above all else would want to boost their own name rather than the city.

Dubai Dubai Dubai and Dubai ... Very Project.:okay:

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/5226/tridentuz0.jpg

Hahaha yeah, that's hilarious... why would they make a rendering of this building and put it in L.A.? So weird.

Hahaha yeah, that's hilarious... why would they make a rendering of this building and put it in L.A.? So weird.

I think its called marketing.

If this tower is shown in a magazine or portfolio in a city in the middle east, investors will simply dismiss it as high risk and not bother to look into it further. Whereas if its placed in an American City, even if this is not true, there is a much better chance that more information will be sought.

Its also convenient that developers like to use buildings from al over the world in renders. I suppose it has to do with the familiarity of the render to the viewers eye or their wanting to compare their design to the same lvl of prestige as the featured towers.

^^ Actually that's not quite right. It's typical to release renders of a building placed in a different skyline, or surrounded by buildings from a bunch of different cities. I think the reason for this is that they don't want to advertise for the competition's buildings. If they made a render of it surrounded by the buildings that will someday surround it, they would be including renders of buildings in direct competition to this one. On the other hand, if they show it where it will be going, but surrounded by no buildings, it would look stupid just standing out like a sore thumb. So an easy solution is to render it into a far away skyline.

^^ Exactly!

mate you have no idea, there are many many properties for sale in Dubai over $10mil

Luxury property in Dubai is far far cheaper than in the "big 3"

beautiful mega construction

With the new plans released I'm going to improve this model. First have to finish my exams though :)

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hey!!!! your renders are just fantastic!!!... don't you have one in a perspective in wich we could see the marina skyline with this tower included??? please

^^ You can see lots of great renders from various perspectives that Malec made here:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=413886&page=22

:cheers:

^^ WOAH.. thanks a lot man'''!!!! :okay:

dude! most of the luxury penthouses in dubai eg in la reve, are like $5,6,7 mil US. you can get a nice 4 bed for $2mil in dubai now :).

Great design!

dude! most of the luxury penthouses in dubai eg in la reve, are like $5,6,7 mil US. you can get a nice 4 bed for $2mil in dubai now :).

why is that ?

when is the construction starting?

maybe next year

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Its becuase everyone is so f'ing greedy

Actually. this recent picture shows some machinery on site which might be doing soil testing. Excavation will probably start in about 6 months in that case

http://i11.tinypic.com/4z26986.jpg

Pentominium is a unique concept created through combining a penthouse with a luxury condominium, which means that each residence spans an entire floor.:cheers:

Actually it's 2 per floor in this tower

imagine to have 2 floors in this tower :eek:....maybe on the top!

how long has it been approved?

24/Aug/2007

The Pentominium

still nothing here , Sulafa Tower workers use this plot now

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/6023/imresolt052sp2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

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http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/184/imresolt056gd8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

nice update,imre :D

24/Aug/2007

The Pentominium

still nothing here , Sulafa Tower workers use this plot


don't think much will hapen there in the next weeks

we just thought , there is soil testing , but still not

I think this is my favorite in Dubai! Really sleek and elegant!

According to Imre the site's being boarded so something might happen soon.

09/September/2007


The Pentominium

fence works ,empty board but not sure it belongs to the Pentominium.


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and something new , between the 23 Marina and Al Seef Tower

http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/8034/imresolt11lx2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/8614/imresolt16pn8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/7871/imresolt17qg6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

"and something new , between the 23 Marina and Al Seef Tower"

a new plot?

we dont know just try to find out
here is more info:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=15281547#post15281547

amazing how we see 500, 600m towers simply residential,
also
this design is so nice.

^^yh its prety nice but they could have made something better IMO

16/Oct/2007

The Pentominium

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/3721/imresolt175mu3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

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http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/6531/imresolt177xm1.th.jpg (http://img132.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt177xm1.jpg)

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/6643/imresolt179zw2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/8079/imresolt180dc3.th.jpg (http://img517.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt180dc3.jpg)

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/5193/imresolt181zg6.th.jpg (http://img132.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt181zg6.jpg)

Those pictures clarify without any doubt that the plot is adjacent to that of 23Marina, as the Architect suggested all along, and not a further away as some here (I don't know why) were saying.

musst be an awesome feeling to stand on one of these skygardens

Wow, its huge. But I dont like those balcony things :S

excellent. great model. now i understand its design. hard to believe a bldg like this will never be the worlds tallest apartments even @ 120st/516m>??? thanks to 600m spire in chicago.

IMO those wedges look like flower baskets on a kiddie's bike.they cud have better integtrated them in the tower.

Fantastic looking tower

another awesome tower in DXB. so far most the best designed towers are in dubai. :)

Awesome height!

31/October/2007

The Pentominium plot

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Imre, did you see anything going on at the site ?

Thanks for the updates! :yes:

Interesting update, thanks.

Imre, did you see anything going on at the site ?

just site cleaning and they put there flags:)

that sounds good, hopefully they'll start in the next time. wasn't the construction-start planned for end of 2007?

OMG! The Pentomimiun will be next to 23 Marina, isn't?
I didn't know that! :cheers:

yes it is

look how creepy tall it will be compared to other highrises there. i know the supertalls are missing.

http://www.worldarchitecturenews.com/news_images/1080_2_1000%20Aedas%20Pentominium%203.jpg

and a diagramm hope its new for you.

http://www.worldarchitecturenews.com/news_images/1080_3_1000%20Aedas%20Pentominium%204.jpg

Looks very interesting. I like the architecture :cheers:

03/November/2007

The Pentominium

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Damn dubai is incredible this tower is taller than taipei 101 !

impresive indeed let's hope that next year we'll have some new 600m buildings..that will make us forget this one :)

dubai needs a 600m +, 700m+ and a 900m + tower :), then it has all heights from 100m + to 1000m + :D

so there Prepping now ?

New render:

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/5517/30350376cv7.th.jpg (http://img89.imageshack.us/my.php?image=30350376cv7.jpg)

great job malec

Omg.. Great render, malec! Those towers looks extremely classy next to eachother.

This is amazing!! I hope that they planned enough parking. You know that those who can afford these types don't just have 1 or 2 cars. But have 8-10 cars! This would be my idea of luxury a whole floor to yourself. WOW......

Hi res. pics
http://www.archiportale.com/progetti/SchedaProgetto.asp?origine=&IdProg=3452

:cheers:
http://www.archiportale.com/immagini/FileProgetto/3452_1.jpg?755,4132

B.E.A.U tiful :cheers:

Nice pics. Thanks for posting this link. :)

23/November/2007

The Pentominium plot

soil testing finished

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Oh shit. You're telling me that this crude and uninspiring design is actually being built?

yes ^^. but i find the design great :)!

Yeah, i also like it
http://www.archiportale.com/immagini/FileProgetto/3452_1.jpg?824,8712
http://www.archiportale.com/immagini/FileProgetto/3452_5.jpg?187,3896
http://www.archiportale.com/immagini/FileProgetto/3452_3.jpg?738,6285


And very interesting floors
http://www.archiportale.com/immagini/FileProgetto/3452_7.jpg?430,2179

Oh shit. You're telling me that this crude and uninspiring design is actually being built?

For the right "... award given..." I may agree with you. :tongue2:

Nice sleek design, but not really worthy a 500m+ tower in my opinion. Maybe in Dubai, considering 500m is nothing there? :)

Oh shit. You're telling me that this crude and uninspiring design is actually being built?

are u kidding, it's an awesome design

Nice sleek design, but not really worthy a 500m+ tower in my opinion. Maybe in Dubai, considering 500m is nothing there? :)

:ancient:

28/November/2007

The Pentominium

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http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/8549/imresolt056pv0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

site prep.?

i would say yeah

from that angle it looks like excavation

I love this building and really tall especially for residential. In addition, Dubai would be among the best city in the world, no doubt about it. :banana::banana::banana::banana:

tallest block will be the coolest construction site in the world in late 2008

They are finally starting. :banana:

I wonder if this will still be the tallest residential building due to Chicago Spire? Or I guess it will only be the second tallest?

it will only be the 2nd tallest :)

Then why are Dubai building it then? :D

Brilliant! It's the first project in Dubai that I really like...

Then why are Dubai building it then? :D

516m is still an impressive height for a residental-tower

Did it start construction already? updates?

look 1 page before and on the title ;)

i live for these drawings.. thanks
ill add to bi-monthly diagrams. only 40m wide? wow.
cant wait for this baby to rise half a km into the skies!!
400M HIGH OBSERVATION DECK? impressive worlds highest pool?

http://www.worldarchitecturenews.com/news_images/1080_3_1000%20Aedas%20Pentominium%204.jpg

i think the Chicago spire will have the worlds highest pool. but i prefer the Pentominium over the spire

^^ i didn't know that. cool.

Another one?! Dubai is booming.

I believe they will start construction soon. I hope so. But for such a tall building, they will need some time to do the ground work to be sure the earth around it can handle the weight and pressure. BTW -If someone knows of anyone who is going to live in this building, email me. :D

i live for these drawings.. thanks
ill add to bi-monthly diagrams. only 40m wide? wow.
cant wait for this baby to rise half a km into the skies!!
400M HIGH OBSERVATION DECK? impressive worlds highest pool?

http://www.worldarchitecturenews.com/news_images/1080_3_1000%20Aedas%20Pentominium%204.jpg

Bigger one Culwulla
http://www.archiportale.com/immagini/FileProgetto/3452_6.jpg?174,1297

More
http://www.archiportale.com/progetti/schedaprogetto.asp?pag=1&idprog=3452&immagine=m%5F3452%5F6%2Ejpg

^^ Great photos and rendering as well. :)

06/December/2007

The Pentominium

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http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/6034/imresolt067fy4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Damn I hope the bubble holds for dubai the amount of empty real estate theyre right now is stagering

there really isnt empty real estate in Dubai

Damn I hope the bubble holds for dubai the amount of empty real estate theyre right now is stagering

Can you name the buildings your are referring to!?

what empty real estate?

Today from scoot68

http://i15.tinypic.com/6yf3kbd.jpg

:banana:

is that a pile driver? :D

that looks very good :)!!

which building firm is building this beauty?? :)

^^ Trident International Holdings.

The piling contractor seams to be Swissboring, the same one who did it also for the adjacent 23Marina Tower (rising in the background).

Looks Great. So the project will be finished in 2009?

While is there a pile driver there when they need to dig a hole for 5 basements

^^ Come on malec you've been long enough in here to know how it works.

They have to do the site diaphragm wall first, then escavate a little and dewater, then drive/bore the piles and then the big excavation to reach the pile caps.

Looks Great. So the project will be finished in 2009?

^^, not really. 2010 or later ;)

somewhere, 2011-2012

The only thing that smells about this project is this tower will only have one residential unit per floor. I don't know how ordinary people can afford apartments the size of a common richer's house.

^^ And who said this development is marketed to ordinary people?

then drive/bore the piles and then the big excavation to reach the pile caps.
I knew this


They have to do the site diaphragm wall first, then escavate a little and dewater,
This I didn't know, thanks for telling me.

I like what seems to be the frontal part. But not sure about its back.

Great to see that the construction of this beauty has started.
It should be UC in the thread title now :banana: :cheers:

2 or 3 drillers at the site:)

it is so difficult to imagine that it will be taller than the Taipe 101 :nuts::

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Really love the design, it's so elegant!

:gossip: Today all the newspapers talked about this company swissborin or something winning the contract of the Pentominium tower to start excavation process very soon. They confirmed again the hieght of 516 m and 120 floors. Starting should be very soon digging 65 m underground with ground and water testing. No body mentioned any commencing date or finishing date.

This tower officially on the GO :banana2::banana:

^^ CORRECTION: There will be around 250 piles, driven to a depth of as much as 65 meters.

So this is not considered starting the consrtuction?

^^ I ONLY corrected your wrong assumption that the hole will be dug 65 meters deep.

would have very nice views from the top eg (burj dubai and palm island)

i just love this building..its sleek and the design with the "balconies"is unusual,but realy cool!has to be my 2nd favorite building in dubai!

I'm just wondering how did they come up with the name?
sounds like it's a cross between penthouse and condominium...

sounds like it's a cross between penthouse and condominium...


You win the prize :)

:2cents::2cents::2cents::2cents:

20/December/2007

The Pentominium

first hole is done ( maybe just test , we can see the soil samples from different deep on the last pic) , the watchman said its 75 m deep:)

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I feel this one will take for ever!:pet:

how do you come to that?? they've just started ^^

When is it expected to be finished?

how do you come to that?? they've just started ^^

I mean come on, 500+ meter and not yet started! well, BD is the nearst hieght right now to that and until now since 4 years its less 75% done. This still counts in the taking for ever zone, don't you think!! :goodnight
But you are right, it takes alot of time anyway. I think I shouldnt get that fast forward Satellite receiver service, it start make me lose my time patience :dunno::lol:

the whole site is going to be so tight for space if you put your arm out the window you probably touch another tower.

Not that great of a design.
seems a bit boring and no originality, doesn't fit Dubai.
:ohno:
It only looks nice from certain angles.

any movement on the horizon do we know of ?

When is it expected to be finished?

piling, piling test ,excavation, dewatering .... etc.. apr 1 year , after we will see who will be the main contractor, maybe around 2013

quite a wait then?

Dubai is the best city in the world :)
She is very beautiful and wonderful city.

I love very much Dubai and UAE. :)

^^ same here man

wow, really nice lookin tower!

Surely Dubai should be reffered to as a 'she' ? :)

very nice project

HI GUYS
CAN ANYBODY PROVIDE ME THE CONTACTS IN THE PROJECT,

^ i found them in a five second search on google, it's now 5 hours since you posted the question, not convinced this was the most efficient way are you?

Dubai is the best city in the world :)
She is very beautiful and wonderful city.

I love very much Dubai and UAE. :)

I second that, if I may:):nuts:

Simply amazing :master: :okay:.

11/January/2008

The Pentominium

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thanks for True Blue

This is a revolutionary design in this tower. I don't expect they are required for load testing as this can be done more easily with a portable unit.

I am guessing that it is to help fine tine the damping system and to provide valuable data to ensure the load limits are not being exceeded by wind forces, lever arm (moment) being transferred to the piles.

In exteme circumstances when there is a big gust of wind trying to blow the tower down some of the piles may be acting in tension to resist this over turning load. So when in tension the remaining piles farthest from the windward elevation, will now be holding up the weight of the entire building on their own. It would be handy to know if this situation is developing or if the piles are/ or have reached their limit state.

This is a very tall and slender design which is pushing the boundaries of technology. Data from these cells will prove if the engineers have got their sums correct or not :)

Nice thick caissons and there are 200+ of them going up to 60 - 65 meters deep: more and deeper then even on Burj Dubai's foundations. :cheers:

BTW the status is not "preparation" anymore, piling is going on so please change to "Ground Work".

more and depper than on BD :eek:, wow! but i guess they're not so wide or?

^^ Burj Dubai has a much wider base and an aerodynamic shape to control and manipulate the wind flow and minimise the forces, while this tower is a slender structure that relies on foundations to counter all that.

Interesting, I've never seen those. It's called an Osterberg Cell, or O-Cell.

Picture from www.loadtest.co.uk (http://www.loadtest.co.uk/Loadtest%20Ltd/the%20osterberg%20cell_files/ocell.htm):

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:)

It's really spectacular.Worth to be patient!!!

bad quality but better than nothing:)

17/January/2008

23 Marina and the Pentominium

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thanks Imre, ur right its better then nothing

18/January/2008

The Pentominium

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are they testing soil or something?

no, i dont think they are

pilling is in work ^^

piling in full progress, and they will testing the piles soon

thanks for True Blue :

This is a revolutionary design in this tower. I don't expect they are required for load testing as this can be done more easily with a portable unit.

I am guessing that it is to help fine tine the damping system and to provide valuable data to ensure the load limits are not being exceeded by wind forces, lever arm (moment) being transferred to the piles.

In exteme circumstances when there is a big gust of wind trying to blow the tower down some of the piles may be acting in tension to resist this over turning load. So when in tension the remaining piles farthest from the windward elevation, will now be holding up the weight of the entire building on their own. It would be handy to know if this situation is developing or if the piles are/ or have reached their limit state.

This is a very tall and slender design which is pushing the boundaries of technology. Data from these cells will prove if the engineers have got their sums correct or not

they said that this will be the 'World's largest residential tower will provide 'height of luxury' but surely that will be the chicago spire

good updates

01/February/2008

The Pentominium

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22/February/2008

The Pentominium

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:banana: Imre is baaack!!! Thank You :banana:

great updates does anyone know how far down they are digging that hole for foundation?

^^ They haven't started yet. First they'll have to build the slurry wall. They should start with that soon.

^^ They don't do slurry wall there, because there is no body of water nearby plus that contractor has never used that technique in any of their projects in Dubai that we have seen.

Continuous piling technique (or something similarity named) is used instead.

Is the slurry wall finished yet?
Because I haven't heard from it a while.

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Thats one big Johnson!

:lol:

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Thats one big Johnson!

That's what she said last night. ;)

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today by scoot68:

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What's happening on the site? As far as i see nothing!?

Wow, don't know how I missed this thread! This building sounds like a nice place to live, although I get the impression it must be a very expensive place - each resident gets a whole floor!! I like the architecture too, it's simple yet still distinct.

So...has this been put on hold? Maybe for a redesign.

I'm not able to see a shape or a clear strucuture of this building :ohno:

I'm not able to see a shape or a clear strucuture of this building :ohno:

Seriously, if you would take a minute to actually read the thread or at least the most recent pages instead of rapidly posting in every single project thread you would have your answers.

:bash:

I'm not able to see a shape or a clear strucuture of this building :ohno:

:doh:, and why do you think it is so? because neither excavation nor pilling has started yet, only a test pile has been made yet

So...has this been put on hold? Maybe for a redesign.


errr....no.

To see Pentominium on hold would be one bad news, and a redesign another. But as long as the piling machines are on the site, I keep hoping that there's only a short delay and my fingers crossed that it will be built as planned. :fiddle:

Seriously, if you would take a minute to actually read the thread or at least the most recent pages instead of rapidly posting in every single project thread you would have your answers.

:bash:

CMack,

before I post in a Thread, the first I do is to read the first 2 or 3 Pages of a Project maybe more to get an overwiew. Afterwards I gonna decide to post there or not.

Who said this building is on hold?

From a distance I saw today a machinery working on the slurry wall of the site.

So...has this been put on hold? Maybe for a redesign.

where did you get that from :weird:??

Wou, thx Altin!!!

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i watcht the video on http://www.pentominium.com/
end i almost cried it is so to perfektion

Pentominium - The Defined Height of Luxury

^^ why doesnt the volume work ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7Zq_Wz5hpM

the videos are amazing

that part 1 is FANTASTIC. it will show all the americans "oh i cant come to dubai cus im not allowed, or is dubai in iraq? im scared ill get bombed". Shows the true Face!

I am loving the top of this tower, the way it moves out, so sleek, so graceful!

edit: not ALL americans, just the ones that are stubborn in views.

where did you get that from :weird:??

I read the last few pages and everyone was saying "nothing is happening!", or "maybe it got redesigned and downscaled!".

Stuff like that

Anyway, did you notice that in the video they have an observation deck at the very top level. Would this be public or just for the residents, because if it was public it would be the tallest in the world I think, but no one mentions it when they are talking about the highest public ob decks.

^^ Man that video..! I'm speechless. Just magnificent

Agree, that video is breathtaking. If I had the money I am convinced to buy one floor there...:nuts:

ony any floor ^^....Top floors for sure :D

I read the last few pages and everyone was saying "nothing is happening!", or "maybe it got redesigned and downscaled!".

Stuff like that

Anyway, did you notice that in the video they have an observation deck at the very top level. Would this be public or just for the residents, because if it was public it would be the tallest in the world I think, but no one mentions it when they are talking about the highest public ob decks.

The observation deck in the video did not look like a public space. It appears as thought the observation deck is just for the use of the residents of the Pentominium as a communal space.

it is wat i hate a bout dubai it`s no for communal use it`s onley for the ritchest pepole

Yes Vanhenrik, I agree. Dubai has a lot to do before it can be a true city. Any city that does not have an abundance public spaces or parks (that are free) is a city that is not doing enough for its residents or visitors.

^^ Worldwide parks are maintained by Municipalities and in fact financed by Municipality Taxes that are paid by the city's residents. In Dubai residents do not pay direct taxes, therefore the Municipality is forced to charge a small fee to people wanting to visit.

When I say "small" I mean from $1.4 - $2.8

BTW, the observatory on top of the tower is for tower's residents ONLY, it is mentioned on press releases.

I find these promotional videos somehow ridiculous... that music... that narrator's voice lol... like selling washing powder.