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ZZ-II
May 4th, 2008, 09:44 PM
may 3rd by scoot68:

http://i30.tinypic.com/3467s6r.jpg

CULWULLA
May 5th, 2008, 07:03 AM
love this render
http://davichu.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/pentominium.jpg

flymordecai
May 5th, 2008, 07:48 AM
Amazing design and height for a residential (or any building for that matter)

BlackLukes
May 5th, 2008, 10:06 PM
This is one of the Dubai projects I like most, it's simply amazing!

Tounsi
May 5th, 2008, 10:44 PM
love this render
http://davichu.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/pentominium.jpg

How the hell did they come up with this idea anyway think about for two seconds ... Why the hell did they decide to go up when they have some much land available ..

ZZ-II
May 5th, 2008, 10:53 PM
prestige is one example ^^

Dubai_Boy
May 6th, 2008, 09:17 AM
Because Dubai is simply the city where its all happening !! ;p

firoz bharmal
May 6th, 2008, 09:55 AM
in dubai the building like Pentominum,23 marina,torch the widht is very shallow as compare to height .....are they capable enough to carry the load ...what could be the widht to height ration for buliding to sustain for years.......are these buildings have pass such tests......?

Dubai_Boy
May 6th, 2008, 10:14 AM
Ofcourse this isnt Egypt ! :P but i do agree , i would like wider bottoms to buildings here but i guess if they plan to build 10 supertalls in a block , then they will have to go with tall and sleek

Stephan23
May 6th, 2008, 06:50 PM
The main thing is, something's going on on the site!!! It's not much but something

Tounsi
May 6th, 2008, 07:11 PM
prestige is one example ^^

Does prestige rime with tall buildings ???^^

ZZ-II
May 6th, 2008, 07:14 PM
of course ^^

malec
May 6th, 2008, 10:13 PM
How the hell did they come up with this idea anyway think about for two seconds ... Why the hell did they decide to go up when they have some much land available ..
They went up because the plot is near the sea and the owners of the plot are allowed to build to whatever height they want. The land where this tower is supposed to be built could cost 3 times more than across the road, simply because here you can build anything you want but across the road you might only have permission for 20 floors or so.

ZZ-II
May 23rd, 2008, 05:55 PM
Today by scoot68:

http://i25.tinypic.com/mmu8e9.jpg

Woozy
May 24th, 2008, 01:51 AM
Any progress?

Avian001
May 24th, 2008, 02:09 AM
How the hell did they come up with this idea anyway think about for two seconds ... Why the hell did they decide to go up when they have some much land available ..

Because big dicks sell.

CULWULLA
May 24th, 2008, 02:17 AM
great shot scoot

WonderlandPark
May 24th, 2008, 02:32 AM
^^^ All these supertalls, and the streets are just empty.

WA
May 24th, 2008, 03:55 AM
^^^ All these supertalls, and the streets are just empty.

I was thinking the same thing but when the supertalls are filled and people have to commute, the roads will have alot to deal with.

ElVoltageDR
May 24th, 2008, 04:22 AM
Yeah and I doubt there'd be any street life if the building still aren't complete:lol: Just wait till their complete, the people will come.

OMH
May 24th, 2008, 06:32 AM
The Pentominium is really a great building, together with Burj Dubai my favorite in Dubai. I really like the design , probably even more than that of Burj Dubai and definetily more than that of other towers in Dubai , its very nice and sleek, and the overhanging balconies is a very cool idea indeed...btw are there any other supertalls around it...but since its Dubai probably they're some just next to it ;)

Dino Domingo
May 24th, 2008, 06:36 AM
Holy s--t! Another beauty for Dubai. I wish!

ZZ-II
May 27th, 2008, 10:55 PM
Today by Scoot68:

http://i27.tinypic.com/2ut2noi.jpg

http://i32.tinypic.com/2mh5y4y.jpg

PwnedByASkyscraper
May 28th, 2008, 02:40 AM
The Pentominium is really a great building, together with Burj Dubai my favorite in Dubai. I really like the design , probably even more than that of Burj Dubai and definetily more than that of other towers in Dubai , its very nice and sleek, and the overhanging balconies is a very cool idea indeed...btw are there any other supertalls around it...but since its Dubai probably they're some just next to it ;)

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=13298063&postcount=211

It's adjacent to 23 Marina.

CULWULLA
May 28th, 2008, 01:04 PM
ive been told pentiminium should be added to diagram because it will beat Spire to worlds tallest because it has 120 floors which will be quicker to construct then 150fl?
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2188/2526887270_f6fdb049d1_o.jpg
sorry to sound dumb but where is pentominiums plot?
is it just infront of 23marina?
if so what stage are they at?

AltinD
May 28th, 2008, 01:16 PM
^^ Cul, it is on front of 23Marina on the boarded plot with 3 machineries and some site offices in them (center of the pic).

As for completition date compared to CS, I don't know considering the actual progress on both towers ... however for as far as I've seen, the North Americans aren't the fastest one when it comes to tower building, so who knows.

CULWULLA
May 28th, 2008, 01:23 PM
thanks. going on how fast Dubai build towers, ill add pentominium! cant hurt. if it never gets to be numero uno, at least it tried.lol

LeMoN-SK
May 28th, 2008, 02:37 PM
^^Hehe yeah.

Pentominium doesn't have even hole dug up, so I really doubt it will be completed before Chi Spire. Spire has the foundations almost done, at least that is what I think because they are working quite long on them already. Should start rising soon, but who knows when Pentominium will start growing up. :dunno:

CULWULLA
May 29th, 2008, 01:12 AM
its hole will only 5 basements /17m deep. or 56m wide.
Chicagos Spires basements will consist of 7 levels or 24m deep. and a massive 122m/400ft long.

CULWULLA
May 29th, 2008, 02:43 AM
ive added pent to diagram. i dont know if it will ever be crowned worlds tallest resi but it will be close
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2350/2532211497_6bc40d1b2b_o.jpg

ZZ-II
June 14th, 2008, 12:25 PM
Today by Scoot68 :):

http://i30.tinypic.com/2cpyn11.jpg

Buyckske Ruben
June 14th, 2008, 03:01 PM
Yep, more end more activity on the site, i see a big crane or pilingmachine working at there. This machine is moved or crossed the site by every (pic) update we seen.

Slowly but... promissing.

Densetsu
June 14th, 2008, 03:12 PM
I'm sure that construction will progress fast after the pilling is completed. :)

helghast
July 8th, 2008, 04:33 AM
its going to beat the chicago spire for worlds tallest residential tower
new height 618m
http://www.arplus.com/MIPIM/entries08/exhibitor_117.html

meh_cd
July 8th, 2008, 05:10 AM
Oh geez a worthless little spire is responsible for the height increase? Hah. They can call it whatever they want I guess. I hope I'm here for the day when all buildings look like One Prudential Plaza in Chicago.

JuanPaulo
July 8th, 2008, 05:25 AM
its going to beat the chicago spire for worlds tallest residential tower - new height 618m

:tiasd: :tiasd: :tiasd:

CULWULLA
July 8th, 2008, 07:36 AM
thats a shame. i wanted chicago to have tallest.oh well spire still tallest to roof.
the pent spire looks great

Hollie Maea
July 8th, 2008, 07:39 AM
Oh yeah, the Chicago Spire will definitely still have the moral victory for WTR. On the other hand, I doubt either of them will maintain the title for very long.

But talk of "cheating" aside, I think the spire aesthetically adds a lot to the building. And for that reason I like it, not because of the record in an increasingly unimportant category.

Densetsu
July 8th, 2008, 08:13 AM
Pictures from http://www.arplus.com/MIPIM/entries08/exhibitor_117.html

http://www.arplus.com/MIPIM/entries08/entries/117/117a.jpg http://www.arplus.com/MIPIM/entries08/entries/117/117b.jpg

CULWULLA
July 8th, 2008, 09:55 AM
this is only 200m lower then mightyBurjD
Does everyone think the developer realised it wasnt much lower then SPIRE, so what the hell.?
i think pentomiuim looks better with the spire.
Chicagos SPIRE people will be pissed. they cant even add a 9m spire to beat pentomium?
atleast SPIRe will be tallest building in America and tallest units outside of Dubai.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2329/2649302024_fe98f13e68_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3030/2649302026_bc14ee882f_o.jpg

ZZ-II
July 8th, 2008, 10:00 AM
Holy Cow :eek:, they really want to beat the CS :nuts:. but nevertheless....the CS will have the higher usable floors :)

emagdnim
July 8th, 2008, 10:01 AM
stunning design, can't wait to see it rise, it slender proportion looks like it defies gravity.

spellbound
July 8th, 2008, 10:44 AM
Today by Scoot68 :):

http://i30.tinypic.com/2cpyn11.jpg

Apparently traffic jams are not an issue in Dubai.

Stephan23
July 8th, 2008, 11:42 AM
:omg: 618 meters is :nuts:

CULWULLA
July 8th, 2008, 01:31 PM
just measured the spire . its approx 209m long with 100m popping above fin.
must be worlds longest? current worlds longest is on Q1 in GC Australia at 93m long.

scalziand
July 8th, 2008, 06:00 PM
just measured the spire . its approx 209m long with 100m popping above fin.
must be worlds longest? current worlds longest is on Q1 in GC Australia at 93m long.

How is that possible? Wouldn't the spire be 618m-516m=~100m?

Stephan23
July 8th, 2008, 06:32 PM
Thought the same !!^^

Dale
July 8th, 2008, 07:16 PM
If Kelleher pops a 700-foot flapole on top of Chicago Spire, will it be taller than Burj Dubai ?

buildmilehightower
July 8th, 2008, 07:19 PM
So just a spire stuck on top of the old design??

luci203
July 8th, 2008, 07:29 PM
If Kelleher pops a 700-foot flapole on top of Chicago Spire, will it be taller than Burj Dubai ?

If someone pops a 3000 ft. spire on my 5 floor building it wil be the new WTB :banana:

:jk:

rgarrison
July 8th, 2008, 07:38 PM
^^haha. you've got a chance then:lol:

ZZ-II
July 8th, 2008, 08:48 PM
So just a spire stuck on top of the old design??

yes :), do you see more differences?

SirAdrian
July 8th, 2008, 09:39 PM
I don't like the change. With all the 'spired' skyscrapers around, i really get a new appreciation for whole, massive bodies like the SWFC.

Still a stunningly beautiful building, but they could've had the balls to stick to their original plans. Ridiculous.

leogodoy
July 8th, 2008, 09:43 PM
How is that possible? Wouldn't the spire be 618m-516m=~100m?

From this design (here (http://www.arplus.com/MIPIM/entries08/exhibitor_117.html)), it seems the spire comes from the side of the building, not the top.

Rutger1991
July 8th, 2008, 10:51 PM
I like the new design, it's great it is going to be higher, bad news for the Chicago spire though.:cheers:

Dale
July 8th, 2008, 11:07 PM
I like the new design, it's great it is going to be higher, bad news for the Chicago spire though.:cheers:

If they put a 700 ft, flagpole on top of Chicago Spire, will it be taller than Burj Dubai ?

Buyckske Ruben
July 8th, 2008, 11:39 PM
This is goiing sick :nuts: :nuts: :nuts: Dubai is crazy like hell.





Yup another 600m tower joins the club!!!

CULWULLA
July 9th, 2008, 01:13 AM
if you see pdfs elevations. the spire is on side and starts way down at lev99. it measures 209m in length. quite impressive actually.
If someone asked me, if you want this building to be the tallest in the world ,just stick a spire on or at side and it has to be higher then 610m.
you would! anything to get the title. to be in history books forever.
the official stats is all that counts.
yes Chicago spire will be higher to roof and have 30 more floors but wont extend above ground as much as pentominium will.
by measly 8m.
the sad thing is, Chicago Spire cant put anything on top due to height limit in USA. not even a 9m prick.
i think Dubai know this, seeing that designed by american architect.
but since spire has beenincluded in design, it really does suit it!
the units will now sell like hotcakes in pentominium because it will be touted as worlds tallest units!

Dale
July 9th, 2008, 01:21 AM
Even though it's not really the tallest, I do think the spire is complimentary.

SpaceScraper
July 9th, 2008, 02:58 AM
What a joke!:ohno:

The building was capped with a sloped roof that perfectly accentuated the building's exquisite form. Now it looks like a narwhal sticking its head out of the water.

The architect must be very angry at this vain, pointless revision to his original design. The spire does not fit and draws your attention away from the beautiful design of the building.

How small do your genitals have to be to wreck a building like this?

Stephan23
July 9th, 2008, 07:22 PM
Great news from scoot !!

They have started digging.

/-/_E_C_T_O_R 8§8
July 9th, 2008, 07:59 PM
It is a trap:bash: An enormous antenna? Not:nuts:

Eric Offereins
July 9th, 2008, 08:11 PM
this is only 200m lower then mightyBurjD
Does everyone think the developer realised it wasnt much lower then SPIRE, so what the hell.?
i think pentomiuim looks better with the spire.
Chicagos SPIRE people will be pissed. they cant even add a 9m spire to beat pentomium?
atleast SPIRe will be tallest building in America and tallest units outside of Dubai.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2329/2649302024_fe98f13e68_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3030/2649302026_bc14ee882f_o.jpg

That is just an oversized antenna. I don't like this spire. It does not fit with the rest of the tower IMO.
Pentominium does not need it to look great.

luci203
July 9th, 2008, 09:21 PM
What a joke!:ohno:

How small do your genitals have to be to wreck a building like this?

Same size of those wanting to build Burj Dubai, Al Burj and so... :lol:

mcdonnell77
July 9th, 2008, 10:46 PM
Are they only adding a spire to beat chicago?

DinoVabec
July 9th, 2008, 11:50 PM
^^Yes...Really pathetic...:ohno:

helghast
July 9th, 2008, 11:51 PM
Same size of those wanting to build Burj Dubai, Al Burj and so... :lol:

u dont know what ur talking about, even if they burj dubai didnt put up a spire the tower will still be the tallest. and it's only a 51m spire, and how do u know there's going to be a spire on the Al Burj ? have u seen the design ? and evne if it did have a spire it would probably look good on it. the spire on this is a different story. Dubai puts spires on the tallest structures because its a islamic architecture thing.

philvia
July 9th, 2008, 11:55 PM
atleast SPIRe will be tallest building in America and tallest units outside of Dubai.


even in your diagrams you show that the tallest unit in the CS is 100m taller than in the pentominium.

Stephan23
July 10th, 2008, 01:13 PM
Think they should make it higher to 150 floors and than the tower will beat the CS also !!!

Antenna looks shitty, my opinion too !!

ZZ-II
July 10th, 2008, 01:16 PM
the spire looks ok i think....it's only a bit cheap just to put that spire on top only to beat the CS

nezzybaby
July 10th, 2008, 01:26 PM
u dont know what ur talking about, even if they burj dubai didnt put up a spire the tower will still be the tallest. and it's only a 51m spire, and how do u know there's going to be a spire on the Al Burj ? have u seen the design ? and evne if it did have a spire it would probably look good on it. the spire on this is a different story. Dubai puts spires on the tallest structures because its a islamic architecture thing.

The burj Dubai needs it's spire, it would look ridiculous without it, that spire is integral to the design, the earlier 705m versions without as big a spire looked messy and incomplete. The spire on BD is essential!

Every article we have had about the Al burj in recent years has said it would be topped with a 200m central spire. OF course it is subject to change and nobody has seen a render, but if we go off the only information we have then it definatly has a spire.

The spire on this building is crap, this building does not need a spire, it doesn't fit in with the design at all and is essentially an immature attempt to make it the worlds tallest residential building. Nobody other than those on this forum give a flying fuck about such records, and they get beaten quickly either way. All normal people see is whether a building is pretty or not. This isn't pretty any more because they've ruined it with a 100m toothpick. The chicago spire hasn't been changed and is still beautiful. Thank god they don't play silly games and stick a similarly ridiculous spire on top of that.

Alle
July 10th, 2008, 03:03 PM
I dont like needle-like spires to begin with, and i doubt they have any communication service purposes here and look unnatural in regards to the rest of the design (which already is questionable to me altough i see many like it).

Make a real spire as a prolonged part of the structure, or dont at all. Its an eyesore.

BlackSmith!
July 10th, 2008, 05:56 PM
618m > 610m Thats it. And CS can do nothing as it is already at limit. MUAHAHA:)

nezzybaby
July 10th, 2008, 06:07 PM
Black smith it appears that this spire is added for you and you only. Everyone else thinks it's a pointless waste of a good design, but you think it makes it "win" some apparent competition. You should feel honoured that the developers care so much about your opinion :banana:

philvia
July 10th, 2008, 06:39 PM
618m > 610m Thats it. And CS can do nothing as it is already at limit. MUAHAHA:)


your dick must be terribly small

nygirl
July 10th, 2008, 06:41 PM
:lol::lol:^^:lol:

Sentient Seas
July 10th, 2008, 06:42 PM
I agree with many of you guys... the spire just doesn't look right. In my opinion, spires should not be solely used to cheat to get the building taller than it's competitors.

emagdnim
July 10th, 2008, 09:31 PM
What a joke!:ohno:

The building was capped with a sloped roof that perfectly accentuated the building's exquisite form. Now it looks like a narwhal sticking its head out of the water.



exactly

Tounsi
July 10th, 2008, 09:50 PM
This is pathetic ...such a hit to the credibility of damac's reputation..

This Spire should be cancelled ^^

da_funkmaster
July 10th, 2008, 10:39 PM
Come on, guys, the important thing about this porject is, that an other impressive building (>600m) is about to get built!
... and I think the spire rounds off the roof perfectly.

What annoys me more is, that they show (like they always do) no adjacent buildings in their renders. I can't remember their names but I have in mind, that there will be some quit big ones next to it. And this will make the building look and appear totally different.

philvia
July 10th, 2008, 10:52 PM
actually, a 500m building is being built with a 200m stick on top.

helghast
July 10th, 2008, 10:55 PM
and where did u get that at ? or did u just pull it out of your ass

FlyFish
July 11th, 2008, 01:16 AM
To call that needle sticking out a "spire" is a joke. Here's another building that won't be nearly as tall as advertised.

Assemblage23
July 11th, 2008, 02:50 AM
I`m still loving this beatifull building, but seriously for me Chicago Spire and Russia Tower will be waaay taller than this. My humble opinion.

philvia
July 11th, 2008, 04:31 AM
and where did u get that at ? or did u just pull it out of your ass
:lol::lol::ohno:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3027/2650683801_56e9b0e93a_o.jpg

skyperu34
July 11th, 2008, 04:36 AM
I think the proposed design is very beautiful, and for instance, it doesnt need such a spire at the top just to surpass the 600-meter-tall mark. The design itself without the spire looks more impressive and beautiful. I`d rather prefer a 600-meter-tall scraper without that spire. Height to the top should had been increased up to over 600 meters high. That definitively seems to be even more impressive.

Anyway, both proposals look very nice, but you know which one i like the more... So, still the Pentominium is a great addition to Dubai skyline !

Infrasuper Planet
July 11th, 2008, 04:09 PM
i wonder how CTBUH will measure this buliding??

ZZ-II
July 11th, 2008, 08:20 PM
as 618m tall skyscraper....because they added a spire and not an antenna :)

oitavito
July 11th, 2008, 11:58 PM
618m O my god!

Infrasuper Planet
July 12th, 2008, 01:55 AM
as 618m tall skyscraper....because they added a spire and not an antenna :)

but does it add any architectural meaning to the building?

CULWULLA
July 12th, 2008, 05:11 AM
^i think it does. it really suits it. its an architectural feature just like ESBs spire or Chyslers.
just like current worlds tallest apartments-322m Q1 tower. Its spire terminates the crown perfectly.
yes i understands everyone furore about how spires "cheat" and grab titles but thats life in big city. americans architects designed Pentominium and would have known about USA s height limit, so they probably thought, why build 2nd tallest in world while we could add a spire and grab the tallest title. its not only for status purpuses but market selling. pentominium will know sell better having the worlds tallest title.
Eureka in melbourne opened 1 year after Q1 and they say they are the worlds tallest apartments. even though the 297m tower falls short of 322m spire of Q1. its all about thinking and design.
but yes i do feel sorry for SPIREs marketing team and devlopers. not sure if they even know about pentominiums acddition. but i think they realise once they have seen them next to each other, they will be still happy they have a taller bldg with higher units.
end of rant ;-)

philvia
July 12th, 2008, 06:48 AM
i'd really love to build a 3 story building and put a 1000m spire on top and laugh in all the faces of the silly buyers at pentominium...

LoverOfDubai
July 12th, 2008, 08:11 AM
^i think it does. it really suits it. its an architectural feature just like ESBs spire or Chyslers.
just like current worlds tallest apartments-322m Q1 tower. Its spire terminates the crown perfectly.

I am sorry, but I think you are not noticing something really important in all of this.

The Chysler Building, the Empire State Building and Q1 Tower all have spires because it suits them well. The buildings naturally come to a point where a spire fits due to the shape of the buildings. As your eyes move from the base of the building to the top, the size of the floor plates get smaller and smaller.

Just think of the Burj Dubai. The building's shape automatically makes a spire a natural part of the structure. Without it, the building would end abruptly and would look unfinished.

The Pentominium has a flat roof and is almost the exact opposite of the Burj Dubai. A spire on the Pentominium does not fit well with the rest of the building. If the Pentominium's floors got smaller and smaller as it rose, then a spire would fit and would be expected. But the reality is that the Pentominium rises straight up and does not taper at the top.

Dahlemius
July 12th, 2008, 08:26 AM
The pentominium looks better without the spire.

The Chicago spire will still be the highest apartment building, because that flagpole on the pento is not part of the structure. Maybe there should be a new criterion for that, a part of the structure needs to have at least 20% of the circumference of the ground level.

brizboy
July 12th, 2008, 08:48 AM
Q1

http://www.palmeracoustics.com/images/mix_q11.jpg

Tom_Green
July 12th, 2008, 09:05 AM
I don`t like it when thin spires are counted to the building height. But recently there are many of such buildings. Trump Tower, Bank of America Tower, New York Times Tower,......

What i like about the tower is that it will have public places, not like the CS.

Culwulla i thought the Eureka Tower has also an observation deck.

DinoVabec
July 12th, 2008, 01:11 PM
i'd really love to build a 3 story building and put a 1000m spire on top and laugh in all the faces of the silly buyers at pentominium...

Yeah...:lol: :lol: :lol:

Jack Daniel
July 12th, 2008, 01:37 PM
Culwulla i thought the Eureka Tower has also an observation deck.

It does. In fact it's the highest observation deck in the southern hemisphere. QI has one as well but it is much lower. You can't have an observation deck on a stick :lol:

:tiasd:

MelboyPete
July 12th, 2008, 04:36 PM
It does. In fact it's the highest observation deck in the southern hemisphere. QI has one as well but it is much lower. You can't have an observation deck on a stick :lol:

:tiasd:

Exactly..."You can't have an observation deck on a stick"

I wonder when the CTBUH will get it through their thick heads that the title of tallest building should be counted only up to the obvious category which is tallest to roof. IMO if this was the case you wouldn't get all these 'sticks' popping up unless it's truly an architectural feature and not just a grap at the title. ESB's spire in my opinion is one of the few (although it acts as an antennae) does fit in as architectural feature.

centralcali19
July 13th, 2008, 04:44 AM
wow! see how desperate Dubai is....it wants to claim the world's tallest residential tower, with a spire?!?!:nuts: seems like Dubai doesnt want other cities to claim the title...

xX60Xx
July 14th, 2008, 02:32 AM
well if it wasn't for the spire sears tower still wouldv'e been WTB.
but if this building had an spire in its original design(first) then it would have been a diffrent story.
again when it comes to Chicago they end up unlucky.
btw it actually does fit the tower

choyak
July 14th, 2008, 02:45 AM
Nah Taipei 101 would be WTB because the topmost floor is above Sears topmost floor. I agree if Pentominium had the guts to just increase height to like 152 floors to beat CS, the spire appearance to me is like NY times tower just a flagpole that will wobble in the wind. Real spires like Burj Dubai and ESB and Chrysler should count for height like you can climb to the top of spire on Burj Dubai and peer out over the edge while replacing the aircraft warning lights!!!!!

OMH
July 14th, 2008, 03:01 AM
The Pentominium is a beautiful building, definetily, and IMO the design without the spire looks much better, and i don't really see any reason to add a spire to this building, since the spire,like many people wrote here, unlike as with the Burj Dubai, isn't an integral part of the design, and is in this case more or less only an add-on.
So for me at least CS will be still the highest residential Building, b/c a Spire IMO should only be counted if its an integral part of he design, meaning that it forms the conclusion of a tapering building design as i is the case with Burj Dubai, or is a integral part of the design, like Burj Al Arab .
This doesn't seem to be the case with this building though, but nevertheless its still a beautiful and futuristic design, and The Pentominium will be one of the most remarkable residential highrises when finished.

Dale
July 14th, 2008, 03:07 AM
The irony in this is that, any day now, another Dubai developer could propose tower, tall enough to be the tallest residential _without the aid of a spire_at which time the developer of Pentominium is going to look a little silly, I should think.

CMack
July 14th, 2008, 06:00 AM
The irony in this is that, any day now, another Dubai developer could propose tower, tall enough to be the tallest residential _without the aid of a spire_at which time the developer of Pentominium is going to look a little silly, I should think.

No kidding, it's bound to happen before this tower is completed... kinda stupid on Pent. developers part... or not b/c they probably only care about $$ which explains this "marketing ploy" of adding the stick to make the misleading designation of worlds tallest residential just to sell units. Once they sell out, they could care less if the building is surpassed by another announcement during/after Pent's completion.

$.02 :nuts:

jarbury
July 14th, 2008, 06:34 AM
Is there an economic point to all these tall skyscrapers in Dubai, a justification for the land being so valuable that you should build up so high (like the situation in New York or Chicago)...... or is it just a whole pile of Sheikhs playing "who's got the biggest penis"?

Dubai_Steve
July 14th, 2008, 01:19 PM
yes, developers are maximising their profits from land by building taller. They are able to sell the units, mostly before construction with no problem, so the demand is there. Look at the marina for example the fist talls were only 50 or so stories, but for each later launch the heights are taller suggesting that the demand increased as time went on and the development and popularity of the marina matured.

Some of the supertalls are used as center pieces for specific areas such as Burj Dubai to attract investment.

Alle
July 14th, 2008, 01:25 PM
^i think it does. it really suits it. its an architectural feature just like ESBs spire or Chyslers.
just like current worlds tallest apartments-322m Q1 tower. Its spire terminates the crown perfectly.
yes i understands everyone furore about how spires "cheat" and grab titles but thats life in big city. americans architects designed Pentominium and would have known about USA s height limit, so they probably thought, why build 2nd tallest in world while we could add a spire and grab the tallest title. its not only for status purpuses but market selling. pentominium will know sell better having the worlds tallest title.
Eureka in melbourne opened 1 year after Q1 and they say they are the worlds tallest apartments. even though the 297m tower falls short of 322m spire of Q1. its all about thinking and design.
but yes i do feel sorry for SPIREs marketing team and devlopers. not sure if they even know about pentominiums acddition. but i think they realise once they have seen them next to each other, they will be still happy they have a taller bldg with higher units.
end of rant ;-)

I dont agree at all, both the Chrysler tower and ESB are desinged around their spires. The Pentominium was in fact originally designed without a spire and its clear that its something they have just architecthurally attached to it. I think its awful and dishonourable to the art of architechture and what its supposed to accomplish; raise the technological and esthetic standards in cities.

I feel that way not because it somehow hurts the Chicago Spire, but I think it will look bad in the Marina. But I suppose it is a matter of taste.

It should be noted though, that the Chrysler Tower and ESB were also racing for a title and had that reason for a spire, as well.

Twipsy
July 14th, 2008, 04:03 PM
What if we all send our complaints to the developer? If they receive 100+ messages from skyscraper freaks like us, that might convince them to think about the spire again. Maybe they will ignore us, but it is worth a try. Developers is Dubai are very open minded and if there is a small chance that they will increase the floor number instead of building a spire, we should not waste that chance.

Green Jello
July 14th, 2008, 04:48 PM
Yeah.....good luck with that. :ohno:

Alle
July 14th, 2008, 07:13 PM
What if we all send our complaints to the developer? If they receive 100+ messages from skyscraper freaks like us, that might convince them to think about the spire again. Maybe they will ignore us, but it is worth a try. Developers is Dubai are very open minded and if there is a small chance that they will increase the floor number instead of building a spire, we should not waste that chance.

Its already U/C. Increasing the floor number would probably come with its engineering complications. I suggest they simply leave the spire out.

JACK NAPIER
July 15th, 2008, 04:25 AM
Is there an economic point to all these tall skyscrapers in Dubai, a justification for the land being so valuable that you should build up so high (like the situation in New York or Chicago)...... or is it just a whole pile of Sheikhs playing "who's got the biggest penis"?


It's like having a teenage kid (Dubai) and the rich parents (US/West) giving them $ to buy a BMW, even though they don't need it.

The wealth in this desert city is because of the oil $ from us. It will all end in the next couple of decades. They know that all these buildings will be empty. It's kind of sad. Let's just enjoy while the spotlight is on them.

helghast
July 15th, 2008, 05:27 AM
^^ i would like to know where u got your info from, there not rich from the us, and all of these buildings will NOT BE EMPTY

leogodoy
July 15th, 2008, 05:57 AM
It's like having a teenage kid (Dubai) and the rich parents (US/West) giving them $ to buy a BMW, even though they don't need it.

The wealth in this desert city is because of the oil $ from us. It will all end in the next couple of decades. They know that all these buildings will be empty. It's kind of sad. Let's just enjoy while the spotlight is on them.

Apart the fact that this 'them and us' attitude is sort of outdated, I guess you are pretty much wrong on the 'rich because of the oil & from us'. Not only is Dubai not so much deppendant on oil nowadays, but I'd like to remind you that it's not 'sad' to earn money from selling commodities. There are places in you beloved country that, at least in the past, did just like that.

philvia
July 15th, 2008, 08:36 AM
^^ i would like to know where u got your info from, there not rich from the us, and all of these buildings will NOT BE EMPTY

so who is going to occupy them? Dubai is building the worlds biggest/tallest cityscape.... and its not even a top 100 populated city in the world!! LOL
even if the whole United Arab Emirates was counted, it still wouldn't be in the top 100 populated cities!

i know you love Dubai and think its amazing, but there's a point when you have to ignore your sticky wet stains in your shorts and think economically and realistically.

Tom_Green
July 15th, 2008, 12:33 PM
Dubais property market looks healthyer than the one in the USA.

At least it didn`t crash.


Skyscrapers are better than endless boring suburb building.

You have the freedom to visit this city, to look at some of the tallest skyscrapers and to enjoy it. Use your freedom and stop complaining.

DinoVabec
July 15th, 2008, 12:49 PM
What if we all send our complaints to the developer? If they receive 100+ messages from skyscraper freaks like us, that might convince them to think about the spire again. Maybe they will ignore us, but it is worth a try. Developers is Dubai are very open minded and if there is a small chance that they will increase the floor number instead of building a spire, we should not waste that chance.

Let's try this...We can't lose anything...:banana:

DodgyEye
July 15th, 2008, 12:55 PM
America virtually invented the "mine's bigger than yours" game, and Americans were more than happy when everything was going their way. But since Petronas took the offical WTB title, there's been nothing but sour grapes, and "spires don't count", and "they're cheating". Get over it! Both New York and Chicago are wonderful cities, and will remain so even if they never regain the title of "World's tallest.." anything.
Imagine you were English; where we haven't had a World's tallest for over 500 years!! And are unlikely to ever have one again. We're not bitter...;)

Infrasuper Planet
July 15th, 2008, 01:54 PM
What article/website tells of this building being underconstruction?

ZZ-II
July 15th, 2008, 03:22 PM
not an article but pics ;)

skyboi
July 15th, 2008, 03:38 PM
So now this Tower is officially the second tallest Tower soon to be for the present time according to pics

JACK NAPIER
July 15th, 2008, 04:31 PM
so who is going to occupy them? Dubai is building the worlds biggest/tallest cityscape.... and its not even a top 100 populated city in the world!! LOL
even if the whole United Arab Emirates was counted, it still wouldn't be in the top 100 populated cities!

i know you love Dubai and think its amazing, but there's a point when you have to ignore your sticky wet stains in your shorts and think economically and realistically.

The people in these threads/forums don't understand. I'm happy that the UAE is Americanized/Westernized and they are opening there arms to capitalism, however Dubai has a GMP of 37 billion, NYC has 1 trillion and Tokyo (our esatern ally) has over 1 trillion GMP. Yet you don't see us building 5-10 600 meter tall skyscrapers when the city population is 1-2 million... counting South Asian slave workers from India.
LO, as a New Yorker this place is a little bubble that will pop in the next couple of decades.

the sock
July 15th, 2008, 05:04 PM
skyboi i thought the manila , pagcor tower would be taller at 655 meters and be the 2nd tallest , tell us otherwise?

skyboi
July 15th, 2008, 07:53 PM
skyboi i thought the manila , pagcor tower would be taller at 655 meters and be the 2nd tallest , tell us otherwise?

Is it U/C and habitable ? and pic ? please !

www.sercan.de
July 15th, 2008, 08:14 PM
noooooo :(
it looked so great without the spire :(

skytrax
July 15th, 2008, 10:22 PM
beautiful

leogodoy
July 16th, 2008, 05:19 AM
America virtually invented the "mine's bigger than yours" game, and Americans were more than happy when everything was going their way. But since Petronas took the offical WTB title, there's been nothing but sour grapes, and "spires don't count", and "they're cheating". Get over it! Both New York and Chicago are wonderful cities, and will remain so even if they never regain the title of "World's tallest.." anything.
Imagine you were English; where we haven't had a World's tallest for over 500 years!! And are unlikely to ever have one again. We're not bitter...;)

Perfect, my friend pastafarian. And don't forget about some of us who never even HAD a World's tallest. :)

nezzybaby
July 16th, 2008, 12:49 PM
The people in these threads/forums don't understand. I'm happy that the UAE is Americanized/Westernized and they are opening there arms to capitalism, however Dubai has a GMP of 37 billion, NYC has 1 trillion and Tokyo (our esatern ally) has over 1 trillion GMP. Yet you don't see us building 5-10 600 meter tall skyscrapers when the city population is 1-2 million... counting South Asian slave workers from India.
LO, as a New Yorker this place is a little bubble that will pop in the next couple of decades.

I do have to say that if they started building new york today it would look more like Dubai than Chicago. The buildings in New York are as high as technology would allow, and their shapes are dictated by the technology (tall and cuboidal). If they had complete freedom and an extra 100 years of technology, it would be very much like Dubai. Let's be fair, the empire state and chrysler buildings etc. were showing off in their day, just like the pentominium, burj dubai etc. are showing off today.

the sock
July 16th, 2008, 09:24 PM
ok point taken.

Guusbok
July 19th, 2008, 01:37 AM
now the people on the palmisland will feel being watched.. by the people in the pentominium

choyak
July 19th, 2008, 05:54 AM
Come on guys, if you want to truly beat the CS then add about 50 more floors and fatten it up a bit. Without the spire this looked great, and the height could be raised and it still would look great. This weeble wobble needle pin thing makes it look like a discarded syringe!!!

Gattberserk
July 19th, 2008, 08:39 AM
They just extend the height of the building enough to beat the CS, using that spire...


Seriously, they are doing it on purpose, just to get the title of the world tallest resident lol


Duabi is going everything for the Guiness World Record, Biggest mall, Tallest tower etc...

buildmilehightower
July 19th, 2008, 11:45 PM
I'm getting real bad feeling that this tower will compete with russia tower for height in the future. Russia tower increase to 620 then pent increase to 622, and so on....

the sock
July 21st, 2008, 09:03 PM
why would it compete with russia , russias tower is not only residental i think?

buildmilehightower
July 21st, 2008, 09:13 PM
^^ russia tower has variety of uses.

I don't mean competition in a specific category but for tallest skyscraper in general.

helghast
July 22nd, 2008, 02:36 AM
I'm getting real bad feeling that this tower will compete with russia tower for height in the future. Russia tower increase to 620 then pent increase to 622, and so on....

its not going to happen

Dale
July 22nd, 2008, 03:19 AM
Russia Tower is taller anyway. compare the two side-by-side. Only the geeks at CTBUH think that Pentominium is taller.

buildmilehightower
July 22nd, 2008, 01:26 PM
I'm aware that new render of this tower is gonna come out, would it be just spire stuck on top of current design or lot of current design changes? any ideas?

malec
July 22nd, 2008, 05:43 PM
^^ There is already a new render. Actually, this spire hasn't been confirmed by the developers at all. Was just in that one place.

AltinD
July 22nd, 2008, 06:00 PM
^^ Since when have developers confirmed design changes by press releases?

buildmilehightower
July 22nd, 2008, 08:13 PM
I'm very sure there hasn't been any new renders released since news came out saying the spire will increase this tower's height to 612 metres.

malec
July 22nd, 2008, 08:18 PM
^^

http://www.arplus.com/MIPIM/entries0...bitor_117.html

drew.magoo
July 22nd, 2008, 10:54 PM
hmm, im afraid that link doesnt work

NashTrash
July 23rd, 2008, 12:39 AM
His link got smushed.
Try this:

http://www.arplus.com/MIPIM/entries08/exhibitor_117.html

NashTrash
July 23rd, 2008, 12:40 AM
Ha...mine too...

Here (http://www.arplus.com/MIPIM/entries08/exhibitor_117.html)

philvia
July 23rd, 2008, 01:46 AM
or go back 6 pages

this is only 200m lower then mightyBurjD
Does everyone think the developer realised it wasnt much lower then SPIRE, so what the hell.?
i think pentomiuim looks better with the spire.
Chicagos SPIRE people will be pissed. they cant even add a 9m spire to beat pentomium?
atleast SPIRe will be tallest building in America and tallest units outside of Dubai.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2329/2649302024_fe98f13e68_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3030/2649302026_bc14ee882f_o.jpg

drew.magoo
July 23rd, 2008, 05:26 AM
His link got smushed.
Try this:

http://www.arplus.com/MIPIM/entries08/exhibitor_117.html

thank you very much! :)

CULWULLA
July 23rd, 2008, 07:11 AM
ive added spire of pentomiunium to burjD diagram. at 618m it wll be 2nd tallest self supported structure in world or 5th tallest structure.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3265/2694305203_20914ddd28_o.jpg

SirAdrian
July 23rd, 2008, 02:23 PM
Does anyone know if there's a large render available with the spire, like the original renders (~3x6k) ?

AltinD
July 23rd, 2008, 05:29 PM
^^ Yes there is, AEDAS has it.

chicagoan
July 23rd, 2008, 07:17 PM
Its amazing to me that these units will take up an entire floor! I didn't see if anyone posted this before, but have there been any releases regarding the pricing of the units? I imagine the higher up you go the higher up the prices get

luci203
July 24th, 2008, 01:17 PM
Its amazing to me that these units will take up an entire floor! I didn't see if anyone posted this before, but have there been any releases regarding the pricing of the units? I imagine the higher up you go the higher up the prices get
Don't know the prices for The Pentominium, but here is one floor from Burj Dubai:

2 bedrooms, 15,000 square Ft.

~ 110,000,000 AED
~ 27,000,000 $

:nuts:

just to compare:
502 Park Avenue, New York

4 bedrooms, 6,200 Square Ft.

Price: $45,000,000

helghast
July 24th, 2008, 02:33 PM
^^ you have something wrong there, 2 bed for 15,000 sqft ? that doesnt sound right at all

algedonico1
July 24th, 2008, 02:36 PM
I' dont think this building is already really U.C. I don't see evidence about it

luci203
July 24th, 2008, 02:43 PM
^^
Not if the rooms are huge. Usually a 2 bedroom apartment like that have:

- big lobby
- large kitchen
- living room
- dining room
- 3 baths
- library
- and who knows what else more... (even 2 car garage in the underground floors might add to that)

SPLewis
July 24th, 2008, 04:11 PM
The price isnt as bad as what a Russian Oil Company paid for a 5500 sq. feet flat in Hong Kong recently.

US$28 million!

http://news.theage.com.au/business/hong-kong-penthouse-sells-for-305m-20080618-2so6.html

luci203
July 24th, 2008, 04:46 PM
The price isnt as bad as what a Russian Oil Company paid for a 5500 sq. feet flat in Hong Kong recently.

US$28 million!

http://news.theage.com.au/business/hong-kong-penthouse-sells-for-305m-20080618-2so6.html
We are geting a bit off topic, but since they don't build anything yet is OK :D

- here is a picture from The Arch Penthouse (the one in the article):

http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/4109/archhomehq1.jpg

The view is just amazing :drool:

AltinD
July 24th, 2008, 04:54 PM
They are doing the slurry perimeter wall, the first thing to do before the piling and excavation start.

Stephan23
July 24th, 2008, 07:20 PM
^^:master: cool !!! :okay:

SirAdrian
July 24th, 2008, 08:52 PM
^^ Yes there is, AEDAS has it.
I've checked out their website, nothing openly available from what i can see. Maybe i'll add the spire myself if i can't find anything, looks rather simple in current renders.

bizzybonita
July 26th, 2008, 09:14 AM
the view amazing but i bet he can't catch any one of these white rose !! this penthouse at top of 120F :D

Dahlemius
July 26th, 2008, 09:10 PM
We are geting a bit off topic, but since they don't build anything yet is OK :D

- here is a picture from The Arch Penthouse (the one in the article):

http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/4109/archhomehq1.jpg

The view is just amazing :drool:

Yes, but in real life they are not going to look at Hong Kong. :)

Skoulikimou
July 27th, 2008, 05:07 AM
i don't know if this render was posted earlier anyhow here you go

http://i33.tinypic.com/aw56km.jpg

Cristobal_illo
July 27th, 2008, 05:12 AM
In this render The Pentominium looks amazingly tall. I love him

alitodelon
July 27th, 2008, 07:58 AM
This is another interesting build. I wait see this some day

the sock
July 27th, 2008, 10:20 PM
that pic looks amazingly tall just cant wait?

malec
July 27th, 2008, 10:33 PM
You can really see how tall this tower is in this render.

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/4580/marinareadyforrendermv2.jpg


I remember being in Chicago and was looking up at a tower, then behind that was another tower that was big enough to be seen over the tower in front despite being further away, then behind that was Sears Tower. That sort of tiered effect looked really impressive and make the Sears really look massive!

ZZ-II
July 27th, 2008, 10:48 PM
impressive angel malec, thx for posting. pentominium looks so extreme tall behind 23Marina....and this tower is almost 400m tall!

choyak
July 27th, 2008, 11:19 PM
I really hate to say it but from the latest render the spire does look good, I called it a discarded syringe before but this one is good. I hope Chi Spire can go beyond610m, the FAA is not set in stone either there needs to be a real cause to go above 610m and the Chi Spire would not look that good with a spire either, perhaps add 7 spires on the perimeter to make a crown?

It would be bizarre to have the 3 tallest buildings all in Dubai with Al Burj, Burj Dubai and then Pentominium

Tounsi
July 27th, 2008, 11:28 PM
thanks Malec Dubai Marina looks so small compared to the pentominum.

618 is way too tall for that area I know that nothing is tall enough for ZZ II But really I love the building and the design don't get me wrong but the location is definatly bad

i would rather see it on the waterfront of the Marina on the side ...

Harkeb
July 28th, 2008, 09:12 AM
disproportionate for the location

luci203
July 28th, 2008, 03:30 PM
disproportionate for the location
Not really. The render show only Pentominium. In the same area another very tall buildings will be constructed:

Marina 101 - 412m

Princess Tower - 414m

Damac Heights - 460m

+ numerous supertalls...

AltinD
July 28th, 2008, 04:28 PM
^^ Also the 420+ meters Marina106

buildmilehightower
July 28th, 2008, 08:57 PM
the pentominium official website is not updated. Why is this with many other official websites such as Burj dubai and updates every 2 months.

Fury
July 29th, 2008, 01:18 AM
^^ - Because the people that are responsible for updating those sites don't come to SSC and get the up to date info. :)

We get the best and quickest updates anywhere. :banana:

Hats off to the people in Dubai. :applause:

:cheers:

Tom_Green
July 29th, 2008, 01:27 AM
I remember being in Chicago and was looking up at a tower, then behind that was another tower that was big enough to be seen over the tower in front despite being further away, then behind that was Sears Tower. That sort of tiered effect looked really impressive and make the Sears really look massive!

To bad something like that will not happen with the Burj Dubai. It stands just to isolated. You will have such effect only from the distance.

BTW nice render. I have a request could you take a pic from the same perspective but only from 250m above the ground? It must be great, looking down on 200m tall buildings and looking up to buildings with 400m and more.

malec
July 29th, 2008, 04:12 PM
^^ I can just imagine that view that I had of sears tower, then add the burj dubai behind it as well. :nuts:

Stephan23
August 2nd, 2008, 10:51 AM
01.08.2008


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3139/2724520640_6ed8c55171_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3261/2724520346_cc3a766a6f_o.jpg

Buyckske Ruben
August 2nd, 2008, 02:12 PM
OMG!

Work is begon :cheers: :cheers:.

After the Burj the tallest building i think.

algedonico1
August 2nd, 2008, 02:25 PM
I dont consider it UC untill when it is just a great hole!

luci203
August 2nd, 2008, 04:52 PM
To bad something like that will not happen with the Burj Dubai. It stands just to isolated. You will have such effect only from the distance.
No Investor will spend 700-900 mil. $ to build a +500m building to be dwarfed by another +800m one.

A 500-600m building must be used to dominate her own cluster.

bob rulz
August 3rd, 2008, 10:05 AM
I love the design of this building.

I don't see why people are complaining about the design. Does every new Dubai skyscraper have to be a revolutionary design?

It looks fine with the spire but I agree that it's a lame tack-on just to beat the Chicago Spire for the record of tallest residential building.

I absolutely love the gardens hanging from the side. Imagine how cool it would be to actually be in it.

ZZ-II
August 8th, 2008, 09:16 AM
Posted by Julito Dubai in the UAE Section:

http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/7456/pentour8.png

DocShergar
August 8th, 2008, 11:18 AM
That does look pretty darn good!

Deepfield
August 8th, 2008, 11:32 AM
Good night render ! I think the spire fits perfectly with the entire skyscraper.

Dequal
August 8th, 2008, 11:33 AM
I still don't like the spire... :( But maybe it will look better once it's build.

Stephan23
August 8th, 2008, 02:03 PM
Understand you, it's cheap !!

They should increase the floor height to 150 and it's the same result !!! :bash:

Assemblage23
August 8th, 2008, 03:38 PM
With or without the spire, the building itself is super-tall and will be amazing once built.

buildmilehightower
August 8th, 2008, 05:14 PM
Doesn't that photo show the tower looking thinner or is it just different angle from the usual angle? Is the only thing changed from the old render addition of the spire or are there more?

the sock
August 8th, 2008, 08:47 PM
great render , are the gardens a decent size ?

Deepfield
August 8th, 2008, 08:54 PM
Doesn't that photo show the tower looking thinner or is it just different angle from the usual angle? Is the only thing changed from the old render addition of the spire or are there more?

That render doesn't show the lower part of the tower. So, the tower look smaller than usually.

AltinD
August 8th, 2008, 09:11 PM
^^ He said "thinner" not "shorter". ;)

But yeah, it look thinner because this side is flat, while the other side mostly shown here is curved, so that creates the illusion of an wider tower then it really is.

SirAdrian
August 9th, 2008, 01:57 AM
Larger version:

http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/8779/02lq1.jpg

(original profile (http://threedeworks.cgsociety.org/gallery/))

/-/_E_C_T_O_R 8§8
August 9th, 2008, 02:04 AM
WOOW:eek2: INCRDIBLE THE NEW RENDER IS AMAZING:banana::banana:

Fury
August 9th, 2008, 03:22 AM
Hi all.

Fantastic building. Had my eye on this one since the beginning.

I think the spire fits nicely.

Can't wait for this to really get rolling and the pics to start rolling in.

That render above is :drool::drool:

:cheers:

LeMoN-SK
August 9th, 2008, 02:43 PM
I slowly begin to think that the spire really does fit the building. :cheers:

Tom_Green
August 9th, 2008, 03:29 PM
No Investor will spend 700-900 mil. $ to build a +500m building to be dwarfed by another +800m one.

A 500-600m building must be used to dominate her own cluster.

Why not. The 490m tall SWFC will be dwarfed by the 600m new skyscraper next door.

SirAdrian
August 10th, 2008, 12:52 AM
Why not. The 490m tall SWFC will be dwarfed by the 600m new skyscraper next door.
In all fairness, SWFC construction started way before anyone thought about the SC. I agree with you though that height isn't everything, even in Dubai.

drew.magoo
August 10th, 2008, 07:25 AM
I love the design of this building.

I don't see why people are complaining about the design. Does every new Dubai skyscraper have to be a revolutionary design?

It looks fine with the spire but I agree that it's a lame tack-on just to beat the Chicago Spire for the record of tallest residential building.

I absolutely love the gardens hanging from the side. Imagine how cool it would be to actually be in it.

i agree with every word you said

Eric Offereins
August 10th, 2008, 01:29 PM
Seems they redesiged the back side of the tower, but it still looks magnificent. :)

luci203
August 10th, 2008, 03:27 PM
Why not. The 490m tall SWFC will be dwarfed by the 600m new skyscraper next door.
The gap betwen SWFC and SC will be 88m, not 300m. (a very chinese gap :))

580m-492m=88m

TXSkyWatcher
August 10th, 2008, 04:51 PM
Love that new render!! I also like the spire. The 'balcony' areas look very cool in this render. I'll bet those are expensive!

choyak
August 12th, 2008, 03:29 AM
They boofed it on the SWFC and Jin Mao. Jin Mao is 421m, SWFC should have been 509m, and SC 597m, but the topic is PENTOMINIUM!!!

As I see it, I now am convinced that I really like the spire seeing it in different renders.

cleveraz
August 14th, 2008, 08:47 PM
We humans r going higher n better by the day. i salute the engineers who built the ST n the PENTOMINIUM....

storms991
August 14th, 2008, 09:12 PM
Spires look cool, IMO every building should have them; therefore, people would stop whining over them.

malec
August 16th, 2008, 03:10 AM
This should never have been changed I think. Until they dig down and start the piling this will remain as "prep"

AltinD
August 22nd, 2008, 01:04 PM
You can see on this pic fom Scoot68 that they have ug a few meters already.

http://i38.tinypic.com/35mno1e.jpg

luci203
August 23rd, 2008, 10:43 AM
Can you have a day with clear view of Burj Dubai from that point? or the air is always too dusty ?

LeMoN-SK
August 23rd, 2008, 10:57 AM
Can you have a day with clear view of Burj Dubai from that point? or the air is always too dusty ?

I think I've seen some photos where it was pretty clear...

luci203
August 23rd, 2008, 11:04 AM
^^
Never seen a picture from that distance.

Dequal
August 23rd, 2008, 11:33 AM
Once the desert is full with buildings, I think there won't be any dust again. :) Unless there's a sandstorm coming from the desert :p

luci203
August 23rd, 2008, 11:53 AM
Once the desert is full with buildings, I think there won't be any dust again. :) Unless there's a sandstorm coming from the desert :p
You mean the Business Bay... the rest of the area is filled with villas. :)

Not every one like to live in highriser ya know... :cheers:

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j286/h5forem/map.jpg

Dequal
August 23rd, 2008, 12:04 PM
Yes I meant Business Bay ;) Because how many skyscrapers are there now under construction in BB? Two, three? Not a lot I guess.

luci203
August 23rd, 2008, 01:09 PM
Yes I meant Business Bay ;) Because how many skyscrapers are there now under construction in BB? Two, three? Not a lot I guess.
The blue circle is also SZ road, and BD area. So the area is not that big.

germantower
August 23rd, 2008, 01:37 PM
mhhh some experts talking here i hope you know that the distance from Etisalat tower 2 and the safa park (the lenght this skyline of Dubai will have) is aproximately 6,5km....:bash:

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/3002/mapig8.jpg

red arrow=aproximat location of Etisalat tower 2
yellow arrow=beginnig of safa Park currently planned end of the "main szr skyline"

thatīs nearly the distance from the beginning of the central parc at itīs northest point the whole way down to battery park....i think this is prety big....

and check the business bay section in the UAE section to check HOW MANY towers are currently under construction in this particular area....(last reports said it are about 75).....

sorry for getting off topic.....

LeMoN-SK
August 23rd, 2008, 05:03 PM
^^
Never seen a picture from that distance.

Found one (quite old) in my archive, it is a little more clear than the previous.

http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/7797/dubaibg7.jpg

Rutger1991
August 23rd, 2008, 11:30 PM
Nice picture, the Burj Dubai looks very cool this way!!! ^^

:cheers:

emagdnim
August 24th, 2008, 12:18 AM
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/3002/mapig8.jpg


so basically the density of high rises will stretch all the way from the Marina section to the business section and will fill the gap that we see here?


http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/7797/dubaibg7.jpg

Julito-dubai
August 24th, 2008, 12:44 AM
so basically the density of high rises will stretch all the way from the Marina section to the business section and will fill the gap that we see here?

most likely, yes:cheers:

LeMoN-SK
August 24th, 2008, 01:01 AM
That gap is really huge, like 18 km, I don't think it will get filled in near future, that would need the Dubai population to multiply by 10 or so to fill all the towers...

LoverOfDubai
August 24th, 2008, 01:15 AM
so basically the density of high rises will stretch all the way from the Marina section to the business section and will fill the gap that we see here?

I highly doubt it. If it does happen, like LeMoN-SK mentioned, it will be a long time from now. And this will only happen if Dubai's growth is sustained, which might be very difficult.

Of course, Dubai is unpredictable.

crazymummyboy
August 24th, 2008, 07:25 AM
this building is hot!

luci203
August 24th, 2008, 11:06 AM
I highly doubt it. If it does happen, like LeMoN-SK mentioned, it will be a long time from now. And this will only happen if Dubai's growth is sustained, which might be very difficult.

Of course, Dubai is unpredictable.
I don't belive it will. One reason is that most "normal" people like to live in a house, not in a highrise. so they would have to demolish all those houses and "kick" out the residens. The highrises in Dubai are for now hotels, offices, and residencials ocupied by foreigners. I belive the large majority of emirati like to live in houses.

P.S.
Population (2008)
- Emirate 2,262,000
- Density 408.18/kmē (1,057.2/sq mi)
- Metro 2,262,000
- Nationality
42.3% Indian
17% Emirati
13.3% Pakistani
7.5% Bangladeshi
9.1% Arab
10.8% Others

an increase by 5.000.000 is very unlikely. Is one thing to have 1,400,000 constuction workers from south asia, another thing is to have another 5,000,000 highly educated carier peope, and an economy strong enough to provide for all work. You can't have 5,000,000 working in tourism.

:cheers:

luci203
August 24th, 2008, 11:14 AM
so basically the density of high rises will stretch all the way from the Marina section to the business section and will fill the gap that we see here?
Is not a gap, is filled with low rises and houses.

AltinD
August 24th, 2008, 11:51 AM
I don't belive it will. One reason is that most "normal" people like to live in a house, not in a highrise. so they would have to demolish all those houses and "kick" out the residens. The highrises in Dubai are for now hotels, offices, and residencials ocupied by foreigners. I belive the large majority of emirati like to live in houses.

P.S.
Population (2008)
- Emirate 2,262,000
- Density 408.18/kmē (1,057.2/sq mi)
- Metro 2,262,000
- Nationality
42.3% Indian
17% Emirati
13.3% Pakistani
7.5% Bangladeshi
9.1% Arab
10.8% Others

an increase by 5.000.000 is very unlikely. Is one thing to have 1,400,000 constuction workers from south asia, another thing is to have another 5,000,000 highly educated carier peope, and an economy strong enough to provide for all work. You can't have 5,000,000 working in tourism.

:cheers:


FIRST: Where in the hell came that 2.2M population figure from?

SECOND: Where in the hell came the 1.4M construction worker figure from?

THIRD: So highly educated carier people can be only "westerners"?


:ohno::ohno::ohno:

luci203
August 24th, 2008, 12:03 PM
FIRST: Where in the hell came that 2.2M population figure from?

SECOND: Where in the hell came the 1.4M construction worker figure from?

THIRD: So highly educated carier people can be only "westerners"?


:ohno::ohno::ohno:
first and second... wikipedia :)

third: they have to be foreigners. period. emirati are only 400.000.

AltinD
August 24th, 2008, 12:05 PM
^^

Oh, Wikipedia ... I see :nuts:

Oh, foreigners = westerners ... I see :nuts:

luci203
August 24th, 2008, 12:07 PM
^^

Oh, Wikipedia ... I see :nuts:

Oh, foreigners = westerners ... I see :nuts:

by all means, please post a better link with dubai demographics.

and what is with your "foreigners = westerners" thing?

foreigners = whatever, but not emirati.

AltinD
August 24th, 2008, 01:16 PM
^^ You mean something like the official 2007 cencus? Maybe you'll find that in the appropriate threads in the UAE forum.

... anyway what have all these to do with the Pentominium Tower?

luci203
August 24th, 2008, 01:24 PM
^^ You mean something like the official 2007 cencus? Maybe you'll find that in the appropriate threads in the UAE forum.

... anyway what have all these to do with the Pentominium Tower?
we went off topic I guess. all started with my coment "of the view of Burj Dubai from Pentominium" and somme enthusiast stated that the 15 km gap will be filled with highrises (and demolish the old houses). than I say that another 5,000,000 people to fill the towers is not likely to happen. You need 5,000,000 carrier people, with big wages who can afford an apartment in a highrise building, and locals are just not enough.

Capn Jef
August 25th, 2008, 01:32 AM
A decisive victory for AltinD!

Rapid
August 25th, 2008, 01:56 AM
That's amazing.

Great how they fused solid facade with more dynamic facade.

luci203
August 27th, 2008, 12:36 PM
A decisive victory for AltinD!

:wtf:

antovador
August 27th, 2008, 08:32 PM
I don't belive it will. One reason is that most "normal" people like to live in a house, not in a highrise. so they would have to demolish all those houses and "kick" out the residens. The highrises in Dubai are for now hotels, offices, and residencials ocupied by foreigners. I belive the large majority of emirati like to live in houses.

P.S.
Population (2008)
- Emirate 2,262,000
- Density 408.18/kmē (1,057.2/sq mi)
- Metro 2,262,000
- Nationality
42.3% Indian
17% Emirati
13.3% Pakistani
7.5% Bangladeshi
9.1% Arab
10.8% Others

an increase by 5.000.000 is very unlikely. Is one thing to have 1,400,000 constuction workers from south asia, another thing is to have another 5,000,000 highly educated carier peope, and an economy strong enough to provide for all work. You can't have 5,000,000 working in tourism.

:cheers:

Are you sure ? I heard today Dubai population is more around 1.5 millions people but growing fast, the emirati people are Arab in general I think the 9.1 % of Arab are come from others Arab countries I presume.
Wikipedia is not really a trust source.
Back to topic. I hope to see the Pentominium rising fast

emagdnim
August 28th, 2008, 05:47 AM
Either way I'm pretty sure that stretch will densify, maybe not like SZR but enough to show some sense of continuity in the skyline,

As for the Pentominium one of my favorite developments, beautiful tower, sleek proportions, if i was millionaire I'd buy a suite there:) :cheers:

Dubai_Steve
August 29th, 2008, 03:29 AM
Interesting skyline render by malec. Pentominium looks good.

http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/1656/33719378tj5.jpg

Woozy
August 29th, 2008, 05:02 AM
^^ For a minute I thought that was real! The rendered buildings really blend in wel with the picture. I wonder how many years we'll have to wait until the tallest block is done.

chicagoan
August 29th, 2008, 05:42 AM
^^
Wow amazing picture!! Imagine the same area in 10, 20, 30 years...

luci203
August 31st, 2008, 09:30 AM
Laterlal spre, just like pentominium:

Daewoo Tower

208m / 682ft
built: 1999
43 floors Office

http://www.sky.s64.pl/home/Wwa/wtt16.jpg

http://www.sky.s64.pl/home/Wwa/wtt09.jpg


:cheers:

SpaceScraper
August 31st, 2008, 09:52 PM
[QUOTE=Dubai_Steve;24617752]Interesting skyline render by malec. Pentominium looks good./QUOTE]

I do like like the redering. Thanks malec.

I disagree about the Pentominium. The spire looks disproportionately tall compared to the building. If I did not know the function of the spire was to make the building the world's tallest residential tower, I would wonder why it was there.

LoverOfDubai
September 27th, 2008, 08:23 AM
Ferragamo to design luxury penthouses in Pentominium
16 September 2008

http://www.dubaitourism.ae/Portals/0/NewsletterBlogImages/3-15-16/image114.jpg


Salvatore Ferragamo Italia, parent company of the Ferragamo Group, a world leading player in luxury goods industry, has signed an agreement with Trident International Holdings, a company operating in the high-end real estate sector.

According to this agreement the Italian luxury fashion house will design the interior of some exclusive Penthouses in the Pentominium building in Dubai. The Pentominium is the tallest residential building in the world, scheduled for completion in 2012. The over 500-meter and 120-story tower offers the ultimate in exclusive services to the future 120 Penthouse owners.

The project, ideated by Trident and designed by AEDAS Architects won five awards at the CNBC Best Property Award and will be showcased around the world.

“The Pentominium is an inimitable building that goes beyond imagination and features an unparalleled level of technology. Ferragamo and Trident share the commitment to exclusivity and excellence which guarantee utmost quality and the achievement of challenging objectives,” said Michele Norsa, CEO of Salvatore Ferragamo.

“The Pentominium will be the tallest residential property in the world and to demonstrate its exclusivity we have chosen as partners the top professionals in their respective fields. We are very pleased that Salvatore Ferragamo, which has always paid maximum attention to its brand image throughout the world, will make its debut in the top-end luxury properties through the prestigious and one of a kind Pentominium project,” commented Wazir Daredia, CEO of Trident International Holdings.

The official launch of the Pentominium project will take place in Dubai on October 6 with a spectacular fashion show and a charity event.


http://www.dubaitourism.ae/DubaiWeeklyNewsletterBlog/tabid/322/EntryID/45/language/en-US/Default.aspx

MKTJ
September 27th, 2008, 10:57 AM
^^ that is mean The official launch of the Pentominium will be at cityscape :)

hellrazor650
September 28th, 2008, 06:21 PM
this thing is amazing. it owns the CS. look how robust and sleek it is.

the sock
October 5th, 2008, 08:43 PM
is there any pics of the site to see if theres any progress please ?

zander0501
October 8th, 2008, 02:06 PM
go "pento" go, best Residential Skyscraper ever seen...

spectre000
October 9th, 2008, 03:56 AM
is there any pics of the site to see if theres any progress please ?

The last picture I recall seeing was of just flat empty dirt. Their really isn't anything to see. The plot is right next to 23 Marina. It would be nice if someone could stroll by and confirm it though. But I'm fairly certain no major work is being done at the moment.

Hollie Maea
October 9th, 2008, 04:02 AM
Latest picture shows that excavation has gotten quite far along.

http://i37.tinypic.com/2128p5c.jpg

Picture was taken by scoot68 on 26-09-08

the sock
October 9th, 2008, 09:38 PM
cheers for that

l'eau
October 9th, 2008, 09:42 PM
nice design.

Assemblage23
October 9th, 2008, 09:47 PM
Did I read well? 120 Penthouses?