^^
hehehe...i remembered the Cypriot flag. well i really don't know the real score about the ethnic issue among greek and turkish Cypriots but hey, their flag is neutral! a cyprus map on their flag! how about that! hehehe

http://www.cyprusflag.net/images/cyprus-flag.gif

^^
hehehe...i remembered the Cypriot flag. well i really don't know the real score about the ethnic issue among greek and turkish Cypriots but hey, their flag is neutral! a cyprus map on their flag! how about that! hehehe

http://www.cyprusflag.net/images/cyprus-flag.gif

^^mas maayo...:lol:...may kahawig na island dito sa pinas...hmmm

^^
hehehe...i remembered the Cypriot flag. well i really don't know the real score about the ethnic issue among greek and turkish Cypriots but hey, their flag is neutral! a cyprus map on their flag! how about that! hehehe

http://www.cyprusflag.net/images/cyprus-flag.gif
This was supposed to represent the unity of the entire island, but ended up, de facto, being only the flag of the southern half of the island which are mainly inhabited by Greeks. So in essence this flag, while striving to be a "neutral" symbol, failed in its intent to unite the country. The north is under the control of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus (with its own flag), which only has recognition by the government of Turkey but is de facto independent from the actual Cypriot Republic which claims the entire island but only exercises local jurisdiction over the southern half.

The only other national flag which uses an actual map, Kosovo, is not even recognized by all countries as independent, after unilaterally seceding from Serbia.

Again, there are BIG problems with having a map of the Philippines on a flag, and as such should NEVER even be an option:
1. It looks ugly. As a general rule, maps should never appear on a flag, as flags are supposed to already represent the country. Adding a map, which is another representation of the country, is completely redundant.
2. Accurate rendering of the map makes it totally impossible for flag manufacturers to follow specifications. If I were a flag maker it would be more economical for me to print off a copy then just paste it on the flag, rather than deal with all the little nooks and crannies of our 7,100+ islands.
3. Again, regionalism and local interests WILL play a role here. Not for long will one start to hear moaning about how much bigger Luzon is in proportion to Mactan Island (there will be at least some complaining about this, my spidey sense tells me). Or how Luzonians have conspired to delete Lake Mainit or Lake Buluan from the map. Also, if I were living in Cagayancillo, Palawan and my countrymen choose to ignore my small island on the flag, then I should not be called Filipino, right? And because the rest of the country will probably not even bother to depict Taganak island in the national flag, why should an inhabitant of the Turtle Islands municipality even bother paying taxes or pledging allegiance to this flag and the country it redundantly represents?

Seriously, these flag change ideas are ridiculous - rarely having substance yet always filled with superficial ideas about what Filipino citizenship should be.

^^
well, thanks my friend! your right actually! : okay:

OT: by the way, if cyprus is divided between the greeks and turkish, where is Nicosia, the capital located?

^^ It is actually located just where the line of demarcation is. It's not because Cyprus wants Nicosia, or locally Lefkosia, to be accessible both to the North and the South but is a result of Turkish invasion. The invasion happened in the 1970's. The invasion transpired when an attempt to unite the island with Greece, by of course Greeks on the island, started. The Turks made a counter attack and had seized the northern portion of the Cypriot Island since then. And until now, as isagani said, the island is still divided.

If you guys want a simpler flag, copy the Libyan flag. A green rectangular banner. That's it. :D We can choose white for purity. I take that back. Choose black for corruption instead. :lol::nocrook:

^^The simplest is a plain colored flag...How about a white flag?... :lol:

Three stars aligned horizontally and placed at the center would do just fine. All stars will be of the same level, both in time of peace and in time of war.

if we change that, then our flag would lose its unique property of being the only flag that can indicate if the nation is in a state of war...unless if we do away with the white field and make it a horizontal tri-color where the red and blue bands can be interchanged...but what for? our flag is good the way it is now, sans the 9th ray

of course, if the opportunity presents itself, i would not hesitate transferring my allegiance to a flag representing an independent Visayas (or Cebu) :lol:

if we change that, then our flag would lose its unique property of being the only flag that can indicate if the nation is in a state of war...unless if we do away with the white field and make it a horizontal tri-color where the red and blue bands can be interchanged...but what for? our flag is good the way it is now, sans the 9th ray

:okay: Sans the 9th ray. And no independent Visayas or Cebu at that. :D :nocrook: The Philippine flag is already good. And the Philippine geographic identity is good. :okay:

:okay: Sans the 9th ray. And no independent Visayas or Cebu at that. :D :nocrook: The Philippine flag is already good. And the Philippine geographic identity is good. :okay:

^^
why insert that issue? :ohno::ohno:

^^
why insert that issue? :ohno::ohno:

Ayan na. :D

Because the Philippines is supposed to be a single nation with no other nations/entities coming out of it. And you may wanna read entirely what flesh is weak has posted and you'll know where that came from.

http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss259/lemuel123/philflag.gif


Perhaps we should remove the present sun and rays and to be replace by this Katipunan flag. This mentioned Katipunan flag have about 15 rays, tamang tama sa mga region na gustong ma-represent or puwede pang dagdagan ang rays nitong Katipunan flag.

http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss259/lemuel123/magdalo.jpg




or itong hammer and sickle flag na nag symbolize ng industrial workers and farmers ang ipalit sa present sun and ray. :)

http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss259/lemuel123/flag_ussr.jpg

http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss259/lemuel123/philflag.gif


Perhaps we should remove the present sun and rays and to be replace by this Katipunan flag. This mentioned Katipunan flag have about 15 rays, tamang tama sa mga region na gustong ma-represent or puwede pang dagdagan ang rays nitong Katipunan flag.

http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss259/lemuel123/magdalo.jpg




or itong hammer and sickle flag na nag symbolize ng industrial workers and farmers ang ipalit sa present sun and ray. :)

http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss259/lemuel123/flag_ussr.jpg

^^ayoko...:ohno:...:):):)

or itong hammer and sickle flag na nag symbolize ng industrial workers and farmers ang ipalit sa present sun and ray. :)

http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss259/lemuel123/flag_ussr.jpg

Keep in mind that the hammer and sickle emblem is directly connected with the former Soviet Union, which was a communist state. The Philippines never embraced communism so if that will be one of the choices should the Philippine flag be entirely changed, I'm sure it will be set aside.

Ang laki ng problema natin dito. Basta ako, kung saan ang flag, it can state that a man can have 5 wives or so legally, i'm all for it, that would keep me busy 7 days aweek , although i'll take a break on holidays.. LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO :hahaha: :hahaha: :hahaha:

Perhaps we should remove the present sun and rays and to be replace by this Katipunan flag. This mentioned Katipunan flag have about 15 rays, tamang tama sa mga region na gustong ma-represent or puwede pang dagdagan ang rays nitong Katipunan flag.

http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss259/lemuel123/magdalo.jpg

why did they reduce the sun's rays to 8?

^^I think, they're on cost cutting that time....:lol:

And 8 is a lucky number for Chinese(Hongkong), where the flag was outsourced.

^^I think, they're on cost cutting that time....:lol:

And 8 is a lucky number for Chinese(Hongkong), where the flag was outsourced.

^^ah kaya pala....:lol::lol:

Wag nang baguhin ang flag, i-highlight na lang sa history books ang role played by our Muslim brothers.

Nanogram
http://photos-p.friendster.com/photos/36/74/19014763/2_459901756l.jpg

Kuha ko ito sa isa sa mga bags ng DOT

http://photos-p.friendster.com/photos/36/74/19014763/2_246893915l.jpg

Nanogram
http://photos-p.friendster.com/photos/36/74/19014763/2_459901756l.jpg

Kuha ko ito sa isa sa mga bags ng DOT

http://photos-p.friendster.com/photos/36/74/19014763/2_246893915l.jpg

^^9 rays?

Isn't that supposed to be a parola?

why did they reduce the sun's rays to 8?
The first one to deviate from Bonifacio's multi-rayed run was either Pio del Pilar's flag (http://fotw.net/images/p/ph-evol5.gif) (1895, perhaps dated incorrectly) or Aguinaldo's first Magdalo flag (http://fotw.net/images/p/ph-evol7.gif) (1896), which both had 8 rays, likely in recognition of the declaration of Katipuneros in eight provinces (Manila, Laguna, Cavite, Batangas, Pampanga, Nueva Ecija, Bulacan and Bataan instead of Tarlac) to start the rebellion, as indicated by Aguinaldo in the Declaration of Philippine Independence. Aguinaldo (or Pio del Pilar) probably saw the opportunity to assign meaning to the rays as soon as open revolution became imminent, to boost morale and also to simplify the design for easy replication and recognition. Meanwhile, Bonifacio did not really assign geographic areas to any one ray in his sun flag, he just intended all rays to represent all the inhabitants of Filipinas.

So it actually would be a dishonor to Bonifacio to actually assign regions to the 16 or so rays of his original sun. Leave the flag the way it is or stay true to time-honored symbology of the revolucionarios.

http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss259/lemuel123/philflag.gif


Perhaps we should remove the present sun and rays and to be replace by this Katipunan flag. This mentioned Katipunan flag have about 15 rays, tamang tama sa mga region na gustong ma-represent or puwede pang dagdagan ang rays nitong Katipunan flag.

or itong hammer and sickle flag na nag symbolize ng industrial workers and farmers ang ipalit sa present sun and ray. :)

http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss259/lemuel123/flag_ussr.jpg

nanay ko! ayoko nyan...

Nanogram
http://photos-p.friendster.com/photos/36/74/19014763/2_459901756l.jpg

This is a nonagram or an Enneagram star. A nanogram is a a billionth (10 raised to -9) of a gram.

no. no. no. capital N. O. NO

i just got the symbol of the flags sun on my arm with eight rays...if they change it my tattoo will become outdated =(

Thanks Kevinb.
Hindi na pala 9 rays ng araw.
Magkakaroon na pala ng 4 na stars.

Luzon, Bisayas, Mindanaw at ang Timog Silangang Asia.

^^ You're welcome. :okay:

Four stars?! WTH?! :runaway:

kaya gumugulo eh...gusto lagi palitan yung mga original... kaya nawawala ang diwa ng mga simbulo.

sya kaya ang palitan ng pangalan para mag tunog pinoy... pumayag kaya?

Ang problema sa mga pinoy eh gusto lagi umepal gusto lagi ding kasama sa mga photo ops kahit sa kasaysayan.

Yung hinde mga tagalog lagi ginugulo ang mga taga manila... gusto laging umepal na kesyo bakit kami hinde kasali... bakit yung mga taga luzon lang?

Hinde na nga nakakatulong nang gugulo pa!

kaya hangang sa ngayon wala pa ring sariling identity ang pinoy!

Nag sisimula ang mga tagalog ng mga bagay na pwedeng maging simbulo ng isang bansa... pipintasan ng ibang reheyon na wala namang ma ibigay na kapalit!

pag hinanapan mo wala namang maibigay. kung may ibigay man pansarili lang at hinde rin mauunawaan ng nakararami.

hinde ko sinasabing walang nagawa ang ibang reheyon. sa totoo lang eh marami... NAKASULAT YAN SA KASAYSAYAN pero mahigit ng 200 taon ang lumipas mula pa ke lapu-lapu ng MACTAN/CEBU PERO WALA SILANG NAGAWANG DAHILAN UPANG MAG KA BUKLOD BUKLOD!puro mga panaka nakang rebulusyon sa iilang lugar.

ANG MGA TAGALOG LANG ang nagsimulang mag kaisa na sinundan ng iba. UPANG MAGING ISANG TINIG NG NAGKAKAISANG BANSA!

Hagang ngayon marami pa rin ang hinde alam kung ano ang ating sariling wika...KUNG PA ANO ETO PAHALAGAHAN.

Ginulo na nga ng mga bisaya(HINDE LAHAT) yun lang mga bisayang ayaw tangapin na ang wikang pambansa eh base sa tagalog.

Ngayon naman eh gustong guluhin ni Gordon eh yung WATAWAT ng Pilipinas!

Bukas Palitan na din yung Pangalan ng Bansa natin Kase... PARANGAL YUN SA WALANGHIYANG HARI NG ESPANYA SI KING PHILIP II.

Tila masama yatang parangalan yung WALANG HIYA? kaya siguro tayo nag kakagulo kase pinarurusahan tayo ng may kapal dahil pina rarangalan natin yung walang hiya.

Palitan na lang natin ng PASaWAY o dili kaya eh MAHARLIKA. kase kahit hikahos na eh ang yayabang parin ng mga pinoy wala ng makain eh ang gaganda pa rin ng cellphone. akala mo eh MAHARLIKANG UMASTA EH MGA HAMPASLUPA NAMAN!

YUng ibang mga kababayan eh wala ng makain at walang matulugan. pero yung mayayabang na akalal mo eh me kaya... ang sya pang nang aalipusta sa mga hikahos nating mga kababayan.

I hate those kind of pinoys!Puro yabang at puro porma...hinde na nga nakakatulong nang gu-gulo pa!

To D!CK GORDON SHUT TH3 FUC1< UP! hayaan mo na lang yung kung ano ang nan dyan! better do something else to recognize the muslims but not that way!

gumawa ka na lang muslim day para sa kanila at gawin mo yung official holiday nila!
pwede silang hinde mag trabaho sa araw na yun kahit mula private o lokal pero me sweldo sila. and make sure that -

that date was made to recognize them for whatever reason you want to recognize them!

kaya tayo magulo eh...kulang kulang na nga ang kasaysayan natin bilang isang bansa...tapos kung ano man yung natitira... binababoy pa ng iba!

why not make a law to abolish PORK BARREL? ha dick? baka madaming pinoy pa ang matutuwa. pag nang yari eto.

madami kang batas na pdeweng gawin na makakatulong sa tao...o sa mindanao...

why not create law that exempt a hog farm from taxation(national) in 10 years if they will built it in mindanao? or any other factory or farm...sapalagay mo hinde kaya dumami ang mag kakainterest na mag invest dyan? na magiging dahilan ng pag kakaroon ng trabaho sa naka rarami?

there are so many ways to recognize them.

but not the way you want it.

kaya gumugulo eh...gusto lagi palitan yung mga original... kaya nawawala ang diwa ng mga simbulo.

sya kaya ang palitan ng pangalan para mag tunog pinoy... pumayag kaya?

Ang problema sa mga pinoy eh gusto lagi umepal gusto lagi ding kasama sa mga photo ops kahit sa kasaysayan.

Yung hinde mga tagalog lagi ginugulo ang mga taga manila... gusto laging umepal na kesyo bakit kami hinde kasali... bakit yung mga taga luzon lang?

Hinde na nga nakakatulong nang gugulo pa!

kaya hangang sa ngayon wala pa ring sariling identity ang pinoy!

Nag sisimula ang mga tagalog ng mga bagay na pwedeng maging simbulo ng isang bansa... pipintasan ng ibang reheyon na wala namang ma ibigay na kapalit!

pag hinanapan mo wala namang maibigay. kung may ibigay man pansarili lang at hinde rin mauunawaan ng nakararami.

hinde ko sinasabing walang nagawa ang ibang reheyon. sa totoo lang eh marami... NAKASULAT YAN SA KASAYSAYAN pero mahigit ng 200 taon ang lumipas mula pa ke lapu-lapu ng MACTAN/CEBU PERO WALA SILANG NAGAWANG DAHILAN UPANG MAG KA BUKLOD BUKLOD!puro mga panaka nakang rebulusyon sa iilang lugar.
ANG MGA TAGALOG LANG ang nagsimulang mag kaisa na sinundan ng iba. UPANG MAGING ISANG TINIG NG NAGKAKAISANG BANSA!

Hagang ngayon marami pa rin ang hinde alam kung ano ang ating sariling wika...KUNG PA ANO ETO PAHALAGAHAN.

Ginulo na nga ng mga bisaya(HINDE LAHAT) yun lang mga bisayang ayaw tangapin na ang wikang pambansa eh base sa tagalog.

Ngayon naman eh gustong guluhin ni Gordon eh yung WATAWAT ng Pilipinas!

Bukas Palitan na din yung Pangalan ng Bansa natin Kase... PARANGAL YUN SA WALANGHIYANG HARI NG ESPANYA SI KING PHILIP II.

Tila masama yatang parangalan yung WALANG HIYA? kaya siguro tayo nag kakagulo kase pinarurusahan tayo ng may kapal dahil pina rarangalan natin yung walang hiya.

Palitan na lang natin ng PASaWAY o dili kaya eh MAHARLIKA. kase kahit hikahos na eh ang yayabang parin ng mga pinoy wala ng makain eh ang gaganda pa rin ng cellphone. akala mo eh MAHARLIKANG UMASTA EH MGA HAMPASLUPA NAMAN!

YUng ibang mga kababayan eh wala ng makain at walang matulugan. pero yung mayayabang na akalal mo eh me kaya... ang sya pang nang aalipusta sa mga hikahos nating mga kababayan.

I hate those kind of pinoys!Puro yabang at puro porma...hinde na nga nakakatulong nang gu-gulo pa!

To D!CK GORDON SHUT TH3 FUC1< UP! hayaan mo na lang yung kung ano ang nan dyan! better do something else to recognize the muslims but not that way!

gumawa ka na lang muslim day para sa kanila at gawin mo yung official holiday nila!
pwede silang hinde mag trabaho sa araw na yun kahit mula private o lokal pero me sweldo sila. and make sure that -

that date was made to recognize them for whatever reason you want to recognize them!

kaya tayo magulo eh...kulang kulang na nga ang kasaysayan natin bilang isang bansa...tapos kung ano man yung natitira... binababoy pa ng iba!

why not make a law to abolish PORK BARREL? ha dick? baka madaming pinoy pa ang matutuwa. pag nang yari eto.

madami kang batas na pdeweng gawin na makakatulong sa tao...o sa mindanao...

why not create law that exempt a hog farm from taxation(national) in 10 years if they will built it in mindanao? or any other factory or farm...sapalagay mo hinde kaya dumami ang mag kakainterest na mag invest dyan? na magiging dahilan ng pag kakaroon ng trabaho sa naka rarami?

there are so many ways to recognize them.

but not the way you want it.

Wala pang pong Pilipinas noon sa panahon ni Lapu-lapu, kaya Mactan lang po ang na-isip na ipaglaban nya...Huwag nyo na lamang po sanang i-blame kay Lapu-lapu or kay Dagohoy kung bakit Mactan or Bohol lang yong ipinaglaban nila, kasi po, ang itinuro nang Geography nila noon ay tungkol lang sa Mactan or Bohol..At wala pa namang Facebook, SSC or mobile phone noon, kaya di masyadong nakagawa nang network si Lapu-lapu at Dagohoy ;)

Paalala lang po. Tanggap na po namin na magaling talaga ang mga Tagalog at kaming taga ibang rehiyon ay gusto lang pong pumapel kasi akala po namin bahagi po kami nang Pilipinas. Pagpasensyahan nyo na po kung minsan ay lumalabas na asungot kami para sa inyo. Pasensya na po... ;)

Kung hindi po dahil sa mga Tagalog, hindi pa tayo malaya ngayon...Salamat po sa mga Tagalog...Utang po namin sa inyo nang habang buhay ang kalayaang tinatamasa namin ngayon...Mabuhay po kayo!!!:cheer::cheer::cheer:

^^
:lol::lol::lol::hilarious:hilarious:hilarious

sana nagkaron na lang ng FS, Facebook. Twitter, etc nung panahon ni lapu-lapu ano para naipaglaban nya na para sa pilipinas ang laban na to. :lol::lol::guns1:

hay nako kawawang lapu-lapu, sana hindi na lang sya ipinanganak ng maaga!

swerte si pacquiao dahil alam na nya na ang pinaglalaban nya ay pilipinas at hindi lang gensan o mindanao! hay nako po! :lol::lol::nuts::nuts:

Wala lang. Gusto ko lang subukan ang talino ninyo.

Paki-laro ang quiz na ito: http://www.sporcle.com/games/yeontura/20philippines
Ganito yon: N cities/municipalities ang kailangan ninyong i-identify. Pagkatapos po noon, paki-discuss yung quiz natin dito sa thread na ito. Walang spoilers. Deal? Kung hindi, paki-lock na lang.

^^
hehehe...i only got 28 out of 40! ;)

kaya gumugulo eh...gusto lagi palitan yung mga original... kaya nawawala ang diwa ng mga simbulo.

sya kaya ang palitan ng pangalan para mag tunog pinoy... pumayag kaya?

Ang problema sa mga pinoy eh gusto lagi umepal gusto lagi ding kasama sa mga photo ops kahit sa kasaysayan.

Yung hinde mga tagalog lagi ginugulo ang mga taga manila... gusto laging umepal na kesyo bakit kami hinde kasali... bakit yung mga taga luzon lang?

Hinde na nga nakakatulong nang gugulo pa!

kaya hangang sa ngayon wala pa ring sariling identity ang pinoy!

Nag sisimula ang mga tagalog ng mga bagay na pwedeng maging simbulo ng isang bansa... pipintasan ng ibang reheyon na wala namang ma ibigay na kapalit!

pag hinanapan mo wala namang maibigay. kung may ibigay man pansarili lang at hinde rin mauunawaan ng nakararami.

hinde ko sinasabing walang nagawa ang ibang reheyon. sa totoo lang eh marami... NAKASULAT YAN SA KASAYSAYAN pero mahigit ng 200 taon ang lumipas mula pa ke lapu-lapu ng MACTAN/CEBU PERO WALA SILANG NAGAWANG DAHILAN UPANG MAG KA BUKLOD BUKLOD!puro mga panaka nakang rebulusyon sa iilang lugar.

ANG MGA TAGALOG LANG ang nagsimulang mag kaisa na sinundan ng iba. UPANG MAGING ISANG TINIG NG NAGKAKAISANG BANSA!

Hagang ngayon marami pa rin ang hinde alam kung ano ang ating sariling wika...KUNG PA ANO ETO PAHALAGAHAN.

Ginulo na nga ng mga bisaya(HINDE LAHAT) yun lang mga bisayang ayaw tangapin na ang wikang pambansa eh base sa tagalog.

Ngayon naman eh gustong guluhin ni Gordon eh yung WATAWAT ng Pilipinas!

Bukas Palitan na din yung Pangalan ng Bansa natin Kase... PARANGAL YUN SA WALANGHIYANG HARI NG ESPANYA SI KING PHILIP II.

Tila masama yatang parangalan yung WALANG HIYA? kaya siguro tayo nag kakagulo kase pinarurusahan tayo ng may kapal dahil pina rarangalan natin yung walang hiya.

Palitan na lang natin ng PASaWAY o dili kaya eh MAHARLIKA. kase kahit hikahos na eh ang yayabang parin ng mga pinoy wala ng makain eh ang gaganda pa rin ng cellphone. akala mo eh MAHARLIKANG UMASTA EH MGA HAMPASLUPA NAMAN!

YUng ibang mga kababayan eh wala ng makain at walang matulugan. pero yung mayayabang na akalal mo eh me kaya... ang sya pang nang aalipusta sa mga hikahos nating mga kababayan.

I hate those kind of pinoys!Puro yabang at puro porma...hinde na nga nakakatulong nang gu-gulo pa!

To D!CK GORDON SHUT TH3 FUC1< UP! hayaan mo na lang yung kung ano ang nan dyan! better do something else to recognize the muslims but not that way!

gumawa ka na lang muslim day para sa kanila at gawin mo yung official holiday nila!
pwede silang hinde mag trabaho sa araw na yun kahit mula private o lokal pero me sweldo sila. and make sure that -

that date was made to recognize them for whatever reason you want to recognize them!

kaya tayo magulo eh...kulang kulang na nga ang kasaysayan natin bilang isang bansa...tapos kung ano man yung natitira... binababoy pa ng iba!

why not make a law to abolish PORK BARREL? ha dick? baka madaming pinoy pa ang matutuwa. pag nang yari eto.

madami kang batas na pdeweng gawin na makakatulong sa tao...o sa mindanao...

why not create law that exempt a hog farm from taxation(national) in 10 years if they will built it in mindanao? or any other factory or farm...sapalagay mo hinde kaya dumami ang mag kakainterest na mag invest dyan? na magiging dahilan ng pag kakaroon ng trabaho sa naka rarami?

there are so many ways to recognize them.

but not the way you want it.

this whining and bitching that can only be described as an ear ache only shows how shallow your perception of history and current affairs is. pity

Gusto mo pa? Pahirap pa ito ng pahirap dahil hindi ko masasabing natapos ko na ito hangga't di pa ako naaabot ang 100th mark

Sa ngayaon, 50 na siya

^^ngayon ko lang nalaman na there still exist such kind of attitude...wag mo rin kalimutan yung Balangiga Massacre...lahat nag tulong-tulong para mapalaya ang bansa hindi lang mga Tagalog...:ohno:..at mind you lahat nang tao sa pinas alam na Pilipino ang pambansang wika...yun nga lang karamihan ng mga taga Visayas at Mindanao ay multi-lingual...

I got 20 out of 50!! LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, daya yata, ilan kong beses na enter ang Caloocan hindi nag appear.

^^ Not necessarily. A substantial number of Cebuanos for one are not Tagalophones (the term extends to Filipino speakers) since refusing to learn the language is tantamount to their refusal to recognize the legitimacy of the national language simply because it's "Tagalog-based" (or they got dragged into the politics of language).

Sorry Kalookan at Caloocan City lang ang pupwede nun ..... di bale naayos ko na

37/50.

i enjoyed it..i got 36 out of 50

^^i guess someone from Cebu can aswer that...pero dito sa Eastern Visayas..most Warays are multi-lingual....:)

You got 32 out of 50 philippine municipalities & cities.

cant believe i missed out on the more populous cities lol

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^^ Like my Waray blockmate. :lol:

^^ Not necessarily. A substantial number of Cebuanos for one are not Tagalophones (the term extends to Filipino speakers) since refusing to learn the language is tantamount to their refusal to recognize the legitimacy of the national language simply because it's "Tagalog-based" (or they got dragged into the politics of language).

Ipagpamaumanhin nyo po kung may iba man sa aming mga Cebuano na mga filibustero at ayaw mag-aral nang Tagalog...Talaga lang pong mahirap para sa amin ang magsalita nang Tagalog at sana maunawan nyo po.

Kaya nga, ako'y nagpupumilit magsalita dito nang Tagalog, kasi po mahal na mahal ko po ang pambansang wika natin na Tagalog, aw, este Filipino.

Mabuhay po ang Tagalog!!!!

^^i guess someone from Cebu can aswer that...pero dito sa Eastern Visayas..most Warays are multi-lingual....:)

if there is only a handful of speakers of your language (i mean not a dominant language) for sure you tend to accede to learn and speak the major languages. in the case of the cebuano/bisaya language speakers or here in the kabisay-an, we knew that our numbers are comparable to that of the tagalogs. for us to speak the tagalog-base pilipino language is tantamount to a language suicide by our own people. and we dont want to kill our own language in preference to what is dubbed as the national language.

i know its irritating to hear why are the cebuanos and cebuano speaking provinces not one in accepting a national language and would preferto speak english over pilipino.

I'm Bisaya and I can speak Tagalog (my Tagalog friends even say I don't have an accent), but if I refuse to speak Tagalog I am well within my own rights not to speak it. Our language is our heritage and it is our pride. You cannot force Tagalog into a people as different on an ethnolinguistic point of view from the Tagalogs much in the same way that the Basques are different from the rest of the Spanish people. Forcing people to learn Tagalog in schools was one step that had gone too far so I think we should put a sock into it and cherish the diversity that is our country.

I only got 24/50......... hahaha....... I didn't really yet know much about Philippine Cities.

Kaya nga, ako'y nagpupumilit magsalita dito nang Tagalog, kasi po mahal na mahal ko po ang pambansang wika natin na Tagalog, aw, este Filipino.


I'm not forcing anyone to speak Tagalog. I'm actually more comfortable using English than Tagalog! :lol:

An observation that I can make though is that though the no-Tagalog-fluency phenomenon is largely confined to Cebu, the I-don't-like-to-speak-Filipino phenomenon is one which perhaps spans throughout the entire Cebuano-speaking population. To continue using my blockmates as examples: my Taclobanon blockmate (who is Waray) is perfectly comfortable speaking in Filipino, but my Butuanon blockmate (who is Cebuano) isn't, and I'm beginning to shift out of Filipino into using more English out of respect for her.

In contrast, my Davaoeño blockmate is neither fully Tagalophone nor Cebuanophone, hence I speak to him in English! :lol:

if there is only a handful of speakers of your language (i mean not a dominant language) for sure you tend to accede to learn and speak the major languages. in the case of the cebuano/bisaya language speakers or here in the kabisay-an, we knew that our numbers are comparable to that of the tagalogs. for us to speak the tagalog-base pilipino language is tantamount to a language suicide by our own people. and we dont want to kill our own language in preference to what is dubbed as the national language.

i know its irritating to hear why are the cebuanos and cebuano speaking provinces not one in accepting a national language and would preferto speak english over pilipino.

Does that mean then that non-Anglophone Tagalogs have to learn Cebuano just to speak to one? The situation isn't particularly win-win: a Tagalog can easily use that same argument against a Cebuano-based national language, or even to learn Cebuano in general lest he/she lives in a largely Cebuanophone part of the Philippines. The situation in the Philippines linguistically, at least in terms of the testy relationship between Tagalog and Cebuano, is perhaps in my opinion worse than in Canada.

^^ I got 34 of 50. I know San Jose del Monte is included in the top 50 but I was typing San Jose Belmonte that's why I didn't get it. :lol:

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[QUOTE=Sky Harbor;44574212]I'm not forcing anyone to speak Tagalog. I'm actually more comfortable using English than Tagalog! :lol:

An observation that I can make though is that though the no-Tagalog-fluency phenomenon is largely confined to Cebu, the I-don't-like-to-speak-Filipino phenomenon is one which perhaps spans throughout the entire Cebuano-speaking population. To continue using my blockmates as examples: my Taclobanon blockmate (who is Waray) is perfectly comfortable speaking in Filipino, but my Butuanon blockmate (who is Cebuano) isn't, and I'm beginning to shift out of Filipino into using more English out of respect for her.

In contrast, my Davaoeño blockmate is neither fully Tagalophone nor Cebuanophone, hence I speak to him in English! :lol:



Does that mean then that non-Anglophone Tagalogs have to learn Cebuano just to speak to one? The situation isn't particularly win-win: a Tagalog can easily use that same argument against a Cebuano-based national language, or even to learn Cebuano in general lest he/she lives in a largely Cebuanophone part of the Philippines. The situation in the Philippines linguistically, at least in terms of the testy relationship between Tagalog and Cebuano, is perhaps in my opinion worse than in Canada.[/QUOTE

do you know that when cebuanos or bisaya are in the tagalog speaking region, they do try to have their "bakit bakit" ready and that's the truth cuz i use to hear my parents ask questions when they fly to manila. but from your experience or know of somebody going down south, do they really prepare to learn at least the basics of bisaya or cebuano language?

^^ I'm learning. :D

if there is only a handful of speakers of your language (i mean not a dominant language) for sure you tend to accede to learn and speak the major languages. in the case of the cebuano/bisaya language speakers or here in the kabisay-an, we knew that our numbers are comparable to that of the tagalogs. for us to speak the tagalog-base pilipino language is tantamount to a language suicide by our own people. and we dont want to kill our own language in preference to what is dubbed as the national language.

Speaking Filipino over Cebuano in an area where Filipino is only understandable, or widely used, is NOT tantamount to killing your own language. Or speaking Filipino to a Tagalog tourist in a Cebuano-speaking place even once daily isn't even equated to hating or trying to kill your own. As you said, you have a handful of speakers in your area. In the entire Cebu province alone and smaller islands immediately next to it plus the number of other Cebuano speakers in the entire country, the number is truly immense.

Other languages in the country is not on the way of dying because its people is speaking their own language.

i know its irritating to hear why the cebuanos and cebuano speaking provincesare not one in accepting a national language and would prefer to speak english over pilipino.

And yet people are seeking unity when the most ironic example of it is the mere speaking of the Filipino language by Cebuanos.

You cannot force Tagalog into a people as different on an ethnolinguistic point of view from the Tagalogs much in the same way that the Basques are different from the rest of the Spanish people.

The Basques is a different case when it comes to language. Even if they want their own republic, their official language is still Basque and Spanish.

Forcing people to learn Tagalog in schools was one step that had gone too far so I think we should put a sock into it and cherish the diversity that is our country.

Your provincial education standard is still under government's DepEd hence whatever is taught in all other provinces must be taught in your province as well. If you want to, you could've suggested a Cebuano subject so both languages are in the academe in Cebu.

I'm not forcing anyone to speak Tagalog. I'm actually more comfortable using English than Tagalog! :lol:

An observation that I can make though is that though the no-Tagalog-fluency phenomenon is largely confined to Cebu, the I-don't-like-to-speak-Filipino phenomenon is one which perhaps spans throughout the entire Cebuano-speaking population. To continue using my blockmates as examples: my Taclobanon blockmate (who is Waray) is perfectly comfortable speaking in Filipino, but my Butuanon blockmate (who is Cebuano) isn't, and I'm beginning to shift out of Filipino into using more English out of respect for her.

In contrast, my Davaoeño blockmate is neither fully Tagalophone nor Cebuanophone, hence I speak to him in English! :lol:



Does that mean then that non-Anglophone Tagalogs have to learn Cebuano just to speak to one? The situation isn't particularly win-win: a Tagalog can easily use that same argument against a Cebuano-based national language, or even to learn Cebuano in general lest he/she lives in a largely Cebuanophone part of the Philippines. The situation in the Philippines linguistically, at least in terms of the testy relationship between Tagalog and Cebuano, is perhaps in my opinion worse than in Canada.

Kasi nga related lang po kaming lahat na mga Cebuano...Yong mga Cebuano outside sa Cebu, ang mga ancestors nila ang galing pa rin sa Cebu...Kaya kahit wala kaming mga formal na meeting, nagkakaisa kami sa aming layunin sa pagpaunlad at pagpalago sa aming katutubong wika.

Nalibang po ba kayo?

Why do Visayans foremost want the national language be driven out?

This is the foremost question every Filipino would like to ask to a Visayan, if ever they are given the utmost opportunity to do so. Sometimes, they would shy away from doing this, because the national language issue is very sensitive and could turn into something very explosive and an acrimonious debate for most Visayans.

This is the solid explanation for those who espoused Tagalog nationalism and the nihilistic Tagalista ideology. Let us do role reversals so that you can begin to get the point here. Let us just say for a moment that Bisaya is the national language of the Philippines. Then, the Bisaya language and culture would now be imposed in Tagalog speaking lands especially in their own schools and in all important governmental institutions. Tagalogs will then be expected to learn Bisaya very fluently, and should sing the national anthem in Bisaya with the greatest zeal. In return for the Tagalog peoples' loyalty of the Bisaya national language, the Visayans will then ban the Tagalog language, culture and history from being taught in their very own Tagalog speaking schools. And then to add insult to injury, Visayans will now make funny and comical stereotypes (especially on national TV) about the Tagalog language and culture by equating it to the language of maids, bus boys, houseboys, construction workers, and "promdis". Not only that, the taxes extracted from Tagalogs will then be used to propagate, enrich, and preserve the Bisaya national language, but nothing in return will be done to enrich the Tagalog language and culture. Then Bisayista or Bisaya nationalist would now begin to pass laws criminalizing anyone who sings the national anthem not in Bisaya. What do you think would happen in Tagalog speaking lands? How would you feel about it, if you were on their shoes? Would you be very angry? Of course, there will be riots in Tagalog speaking regions. It even created a national controversy when Visayans just merely translated the national anthem from Tagalog to Visayan. The Visayan version of the national anthem was just being sung in Visayan speaking regions only and never in Tagalog speaking lands. How much more if the Visayan language and the Visayan national anthem are sung and imposed in Tagalog speaking schools and in their regions? What do you think would happen to their regions? This is what is what is happening in most non-Tagalog regions through out the Philippines especially in the Visayas and Mindanao area. The national government is imposing Tagalog in non-Tagalog regions.

The imposition of the Tagalog language and culture in non-Tagalog regions is a very unfair practice. Why? Because of these factors:

1.) There is no reciprocity among Tagalog speaking regions to learn non-Tagalog language, culture, and history, but Tagalogs are allowed to impose their language, history, and culture in non-Tagalog speaking regions.
2.) Tagalogs are allowed to teach their own language, their own culture, and their own history in Tagalog speaking regions, but non-Tagalog language, culture, and history are banned in their own non-tagalog speaking regions for no apparent reason at all.
3.) The propagation, preservation, and enrichment of the Tagalog national language was done at the taxes of Tagalog and non-Tagalog people alike. But nothing has been to propagate, preserve, and enrich the non-Tagalog languages and cultures through out the archipelago. It is the foreign NGOs and the foreign Christian missionaries who are doing so, but the government has never sponsored any non-Tagalog dictionary until now. Ironically, China being a communist nation has been recently been congratulated by UNESCO for the promotion, preservation, and protection of its ethnic languages. But the Philippines being a democratic country and one of the original signatories of the Universal Declaration of Human rights promotes nothing else but Tagalog. It believes in this mantra: "Ang Filipino/Pilipino ay hindi Tagalog kundi hango siya sa iba't ibang wika ng Pilipinas." This is just a ploy to project an image of fairness that the Filipino language does accept equal influences from other ethno linguistic group in the Philippines. But Filipino is just renamed and neutral term for the Tagalog language, so that the government can be very efficient in its Tagalization campaign of the entire Philippine archipelago.
4.) To propagate, preserve and enrich Tagalog is considered "nationalism" or "patriotism", but if non-Tagalogs do equally as what the Tagalogs do to their own
language, it is considered regionalism, secessionism, and parochial aspirations.
5.) The singing of the national anthem other than Tagalog criminalizes anyone through Republic Act No.8491 or the National Flag Law - even though this is sung in one's very own linguistic homeland. This is in complete violation of the freedom of speech clause in the Philippine constitution and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights which guarantees protection on the mother languages.
6.) Native Tagalog speakers don't require themselves to learn any language of non-Tagalogs, but Non-Tagalogs are required and expected to learn the Tagalog language. In other words, there is no reciprocity on the native Tagalog speakers.
7.) The imposition of the national language has led to the vulgarization of the mother languages, since the Philippine government promotes ONLY the Tagalog language hidden under the neutral name Filipino language. Non-Tagalog languages and the cultures they represent have been treated with contempt. The
nationalists have a very hostile attitude exhibited towards mother language advocates by equating them as having secessionist and regionalist agenda in mind.
8.) Filipino, which is the neutral name for Tagalog , is the only language recognized by the Philippine government. The rest of the Philippine languages are demoted as mere dialects. Some people confuse a language from a dialect. A language is distinct while a dialect is just a variation of a language. Just like Batangueno Tagalog, Metro manila Tagalog, Filipino or Pilipino, or Bulakeno Tagalog, Marinduque Tagalog are just dialects of one language which is Tagalog. But Tagalog, Cebuano, Ilokano, Hiligaynon, Waray-Waray, Kapampangan, Bikol, Pangasinan, Maranao, Maguindanao, Kinaray-a, and Tausug are not dialects of Filipino / Pilipino but languages in their own right.

The national language has been a very controversial issue for most Visayans. This has not been truly accepted. The majority of Visayans want the national language removed and disestablished from the system, because it creates unfairness for one is privileged at the expense of others. The Visayan language, which has been the native language and the lingua franca in the majority of the Visayas and Mindanao regions, has constantly been banned in the schools and the governmental institutions. What seems to be wrong with the Visayan language, history, and culture that it could never be taught or gain a foothold in their very own schools? Basically, it is being marginalized for no apparent or sensible reason at all.

English should be maintained as the neutral leveler tongue, since no one speaks it native in the country, so everyone starts from scratch. Then the 12 major regional languages in the Philippines should be made official, because it already represents the empowerment of 98 percent of the Filipino people. An institute shall be created to preserve all the languages of the archipelago which are not considered major languages. The Tagalog national language should be dislodged and disestablished for good, because it seeks to privileged an ethno linguistic group at the expense of others. As a result, non-Tagalogs are placed on a linguistic disadvantage. You can just see how on-Tagalogs especially Visayans are constantly being mocked in national television, because of their strong accents. Tagalistas believe this is fair game to mock a language and culture that has been the native language and lingua franca of the majority of the Filipino people especially in the Visayas and Mindanao regions. Not only that, it is also a language that is also spoken by 1/3 of the people of Masbate, parts of Romblon, and parts of Mindoro.

The establishment of the national language in the country has created animosity and resentment among the Filipino people, because one is privileged at the expense of others. The Philippine national government does not promote any culture and language other than Tagalog, but this is hidden under the neutral name Filipino.

You may sometimes wonder, "Why do Visayans speak in English to native Tagalog speakers when talking to them when in Visayan speaking lands?" Because, the English language seeks to remove the privilege accorded to native Tagalog speakers, and then non-Tagalogs and Tagalogs could now come together as equals. English from a non-Tagalog point of view is a neutral language. The privileging of the Tagalog language has led to an air of cultural superiority among its native speakers. As a result, non-Tagalog language and culture is constantly being mocked and viewed as inferior or with contempt.

Visayans for quite a long time now really want the national language be driven out of their lands. It is a constant reminder of their second class citizenship status even in their own linguistic backyard. The national language may not be removed today or tomorrow, but when they have finally driven out the national language for good in their own regions, then this is truly the time when Visayan speakers could now begin to flourish and be progressive as a nation. You may wonder, "Why?" You can never truly flourish and be empowered in life, if you are constantly being reminded directly or indirectly that you possess a language and culture that is inferior from the rest, because one is being privileged at your expense.

Hope this article has provided you with a bird's eye view and greater understanding as to why Visayans want to remove the national language from the archipelago for good. It is the utmost desire of every Filipino to be ONE with his compatriots, but it should never be done through subjugation and cultural disrespect. This so called "national unity" came at a very huge price paid by non-Tagalogs. How? It is through the constant and unrelenting marginalization of their unique cultures and languages through out the whole archipelago by the Philippine government who is supposed to protect and look after the best interest and genuine welfare of the majority of its own people. Always remember this: The end never justifies the means it was ever achieved. We can never be truly united, if ever we don't respect diversity in this country. Diversity should not be feared, but it should be acknowledged and be encouraged as a foremost tool towards national unity and development. When the national language is finally removed or dislodged from its present stature, this is truly the time when all Filipinos can now see eye to eye as equals, and then they can finally all say, "YES INDEED WE ARE EXTREMELY PROUD TO BE CALLED FILIPINOS!" This will then be the beginning of the renewal of the Filipino nation.

By Joemax Sencio Kiamco

And yet people are seeking unity when the most ironic example of it is the mere speaking of the Filipino language by Cebuanos.



If you are eating noodles every meal, don't you feel sick?

That's how we see our Tagalog-centered sociopolitical structure ;)

If you are eating noodles every meal, don't you feel sick?

Same with our Tagalog-centered sociopolitical structure ;)

Sorry, I don't eat noodles every meal. :D

It's sickening because there's always comparison. I, for one, don't ask the Cebuano-speakers to be subservient or inferior upon Tagalog-speakers because (1) I am not Tagalog though my mom is; (2) no language is superior nor inferior to another language in any continent, country or region; and (3) language is a such small thing to have a country divided.

Don't you think so?

Asking for independence from a country is OK as long as reasons are valid like maybe a certain place is unfairly getting a larger share of whatever than this other place or maybe a specific area is being discriminated just because the people there are dark-skinned as how the Spaniards looked down to all Filipinos then. But language? It's such a superficial reason. Only narrow-minded people think that way. And I know Cebuanos are intelligent and have a broad, sensible mind.

^^ Super OT na pala tayong lahat. :lol:

^^And you will call us narrow-minded if we insist to be free? :)

Well, most of us for now are just wishing for federalism to push through. But in any case that our desire to be free becomes so strong, well, I don't care what you want to label us (narrow-minded, illiterates, barbarians...)... ;)

^^ I don't like putting labels. It's generalizing all Cebuanos when not all Cebuanos want it. Basta I don't want any entity separated from the Philippines.

^^We dont deserve those kind of labels, in the first place.

As for the flag, just remove the sun, since our country's name will also be changed to "Federal Republic of the Philippines".

Let's give credit to ALL of those who shed blood, tears and sweat for this country.

^^ I don't like putting labels. It's generalizing all Cebuanos when not all Cebuanos want it. Basta I don't want any entity separated from the Philippines.

we'll divide the philippines into philip and pines. cebuanos get the philip (since we were the first one to receive that name from king philip of spain) and you up north get the pines. :lol::lol::lol::jk:

language issue is never ot for the cebuanos and the rest of the visayan speaking regions that needs to be addressed in congress.

^^Nalibang talaga ako sa ating pag-inusapay... :lol:

^^Nalibang talaga ako sa ating pag-inusapay... :lol:

usapin mo silang tanang dong kay maayo man ka magtagalog2x :lol::lol::lol:

we'll divide the philippines into philip and pines. cebuanos get the philip (since we were the first one to receive that name from king philip of spain) and you up north get the pines. :lol::lol::lol::jk:

language issue is never ot for the cebuanos and the rest of the visayan speaking regions that needs to be addressed in congress.


champion pa rin si Victorino Mapa! kahit paghati hatiin ang map ng The Republic of the Philippine.

Talagang victorious eka nga!

flashing victory laban sign :tyty: :rock: :cheer:

usapin mo silang tanang dong kay maayo man ka magtagalog2x :lol::lol::lol:

Nagbabalik-aral lang po ako sa aking Tagalog, aw, este Filipino, para po nationalistic po yong dating ko... :lol:

Lets just all speak Spanish and English.

hehe.

Why not teach both Tagalog and Cebuano in all schools in the Philippines? I for one would love to be able to speak in Cebuano.

Ipagpamaumanhin nyo po kung may iba man sa aming mga Cebuano na mga filibustero at ayaw mag-aral nang Tagalog...Talaga lang pong mahirap para sa amin ang magsalita nang Tagalog at sana maunawan nyo po.

Kaya nga, ako'y nagpupumilit magsalita dito nang Tagalog, kasi po mahal na mahal ko po ang pambansang wika natin na Tagalog, aw, este Filipino.

Mabuhay po ang Tagalog!!!!

pero kaso bai, hindi lahat ng tagalog nakakaintindi sa situasyon nating mga cebuano kasi iba na kasi ang tingin nila sa mga ganoong bagay. :lol:

we'll divide the philippines into philip and pines. cebuanos get the philip (since we were the first one to receive that name from king philip of spain) and you up north get the pines. :lol::lol::lol::jk:

language issue is never ot for the cebuanos and the rest of the visayan speaking regions that needs to be addressed in congress.

hahaha...i can't believe you just said that! :lol::lol:

what a great idea! :lol::lol::D:hilarious

wasn't leyte and samar given that title of filipinas? :D

Lets just all speak Spanish and English.

hehe.

Why not teach both Tagalog and Cebuano in all schools in the Philippines? I for one would love to be able to speak in Cebuano.

actually okay na sa akin na tagalog in all philippine schools pero wa'g lang sabihin na national language ang filipino dahil kahit may school subject pa yan, kahit foreigner alam yan na walang pinagkaiba ang filipino sa tagalog. para lang kasing adulterated tagalog ang filipino same with cebuano na yung cebuano sa metro cebu is the adulterated one while the cebuano in the province is the pure one.

ibahin dapat ang paliwanag ukol sa filipino subject na yan. back when i was still in my elementary/secondary years, dapat gumamit ng filipino/tagalog during linggo ng wika dahil yun ang pambansang wika ng pilipinas pero bawal naman gumamit ng cebuano dahil hindi ito pambansang wika. it just makes an impression na superior yung filipino/tagalog sa cebuano ko. pinagbabayad ka pa pag nagsalita ka ng cebuano in class! and that's also the reason why well-educated cebuanos are more comfortable speaking english than speaking tagalog. i mean kahit hindi pambansang wika ang cebuano, dahil linggo ng wika dapat pinahahalagahan din ang ibang mga wika dahil hindi naman tagalog ang wika sa pilipinas eh.

as for the schools to teach their own languages aside from tagalog, its up to them na siguro but dapat rin may legislation na dyan.

if there is only a handful of speakers of your language (i mean not a dominant language) for sure you tend to accede to learn and speak the major languages. in the case of the cebuano/bisaya language speakers or here in the kabisay-an, we knew that our numbers are comparable to that of the tagalogs. for us to speak the tagalog-base pilipino language is tantamount to a language suicide by our own people. and we dont want to kill our own language in preference to what is dubbed as the national language.

i know its irritating to hear why are the cebuanos and cebuano speaking provinces not one in accepting a national language and would preferto speak english over pilipino.

^^hmmm...we Warays tends to adapt to our environment out of respect to those who dont understand our language...its more of enriching rather than killing....:):):)

^^ :okay:

pero kaso bai, hindi lahat ng tagalog nakakaintindi sa situasyon nating mga cebuano kasi iba na kasi ang tingin nila sa mga ganoong bagay. :lol:



hahaha...i can't believe you just said that! :lol::lol:

what a great idea! :lol::lol::D:hilarious

wasn't leyte and samar given that title of filipinas? :D

^^historically, yes...from Pintados to Las(or Los) Islas Filipinas...:)

I am a Tagalog-speaking Visayan since I was born in Manila and grow up in Bulacan.

Perhaps our country should follow the Singapore example about national languages. They have 4 official languages, English, Malay, Chinese, and Indian "Hindi"

The Singaporeans whether Malay, Chinese, Indians, etc have to learn in the
primary school the 4 official languages.

The Chinese have to learn in the primary school : English, Malay, and Hindi

The Malay have to learn in the school : English, Chinese, and Hindi

The East Indians and Tamils have to learn in the school : English, Malay, and Chinese

The Eurasians, Filipinos who were Singapore-born, and other races who were Singaporeans have to learn Malay, Chinese, and Hindi.


Here in the Philippines perhaps we can adopt the Singapore example :
English, Spanish, Tagalog, Cebuano, and Ilocano can be our 5 official languages, More than 5 official languages is too difficult already

The problem is the Warays, Ilongos, Bicolanos, Pangasinans, Bicolanos, Tausogs, Maranaos, Antiqueno, and etc may complaint and cry foul and will say that is too unfair... :lol: :cheers:

I am a Tagalog-speaking Visayan since I was born in Manila and grow up in Bulacan.

Perhaps our country should follow the Singapore example about national languages. The have 4 official languages, English, Malay, Chinese, and Indian "Hindi"

The Singaporeans whether Malay, Chinese, Indians, etc have to learn in the
primary school the 4 official languages.

The Chinese have to learn in the primary school : English, Malay, and Hindi

The Malay have to learn in the school : English, Chinese, and Hindi

The East Indians and Tamils have to learn in the school : English, Malay, and Chinese

The Eurasians, Filipinos who were Singapore-born, and other races who were Singaporeans have to learn Malay, Chinese, and Hindi.


Here in the Philippines perhaps we can adopt the Singapore example :
English, Spanish, Tagalog, Cebuano, and Ilocano can be our 5 official languages, More than 5 official languages is too difficult already

The problem is the Warays, Ilongos, Bicolanos, Pangasinans, Bicolanos, Tausogs, Maranaos, Antiqueno, and etc may complaint and cry foul and will say that is too unfair... :lol: :cheers:

^^3 nalang...English, Tagalog and Cebuano.....:)

if there is only a handful of speakers of your language (i mean not a dominant language) for sure you tend to accede to learn and speak the major languages. in the case of the cebuano/bisaya language speakers or here in the kabisay-an, we knew that our numbers are comparable to that of the tagalogs. for us to speak the tagalog-base pilipino language is tantamount to a language suicide by our own people. and we dont want to kill our own language in preference to what is dubbed as the national language.

i know its irritating to hear why are the cebuanos and cebuano speaking provinces not one in accepting a national language and would preferto speak english over pilipino.

The bolded statement baffles me. Though language politics in the Philippines is a giant circus similar to that of our politics as a whole, it is highly unlikely that just because Cebuanos speak Filipino, it automatically means that they are killing their own language in the process. The Philippine government doesn't even have a systematic policy of linguistic repression (unlike France, for example), yet you paint Cebuano as if it's Breton and Tagalog as if it's French. The idea that only Tagalog can kill Cebuano is not only antithetical in itself, it's also plain absurd. Any language can kill off another language: if Waray was the basis of Filipino, for example, your idea could easily become one of Cebuanos committing linguicide simply because they have to learn Waray in addition to Cebuano.

I still see no empirical evidence that suggests that Cebuano fluency is diminished if one learns Tagalog, particularly given the way language education is set up in the Philippines: though you may learn Filipino in school, if you're in an exclusively Cebuanophone household, you'd be expected to use Cebuano at home and among other Cebuanos, and Filipino in school and among non-Cebuanos (alongside English), the end result being that one be fluent in English, Filipino and Cebuano in the same manner people coming from Chinese schools are expected to fluent in at least three languages upon graduation. If Warays, Ilonggos, Ilokanos, Bicolanos, Kapampangans and the like can speak Filipino without killing their own native languages, and in fact remain fluent in both tongues (and more!), why not Cebuanos?

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To simplify things a bit, I'll use the roulette of TV Patrol as an example. TV Patrol reporters and anchors will be shifted from station to station as needed be (mostly though from a regional station to DWWX-TV in Manila, and less so between two provincial stations), almost always as a means of promotion. TV Patrol regional anchors likewise serve as regional correspondents of TV Patrol World, Bandila and, where necessary, DZMM (though this isn't always the case). This happens across regions and in many cases languages. A few examples that I can think of:

* Reporterships to different-language TV Patrol newscasts happens often, and in fact quite a few have gone to TV Patrol World: Ina Reformina, Rod Macenas and Israel Malasa, who came from TV Patrol Central Visayas, Bicol and Iloilo respectively, are now reporters for TV Patrol World.
* Anchorships to different-language TV Patrol regional newscasts is extremely rare, since normally anchorship positions are filled by those who speak the same language: Dante Luzon became the anchor of TV Patrol Southern Mindanao when TV Patrol Dumaguete was merged into TV Patrol Central Visayas, and PJ dela Peña became the anchor of TV Patrol Northern Mindanao after serving as a reporter on TV Patrol Southern Mindanao. The only example I can think of is Sarita Kare, a reporter from TV Patrol Bicol who was promoted to the anchorship of TV Patrol Southern Tagalog.

In any instance, these people are multilingual in the sense that their jobs require linguistic flexibility, which may or may not always be present: Gerard Lorbes for one nearly broke into Bikol (and he visibly had a difficult time expressing his ideas in Tagalog) when reporting on Typhoon Pepeng for Bandila. However, when these people were asked to speak in Tagalog, I highly doubt they were putting their linguistic pride on the line: I'm inclined to believe that Ina Reformina is as proud of her job as a Tagalog-language reporter despite being having a sense of Cebuano pride.

Haay...if we can only be like our broadcast journalists.

Anyway, going back to the issue of the flag: do you know that Richard Gordon initially suggested that the ninth ray be used to represent Zambales? This was back in the 1990s, during the run-up to the Centennial, and though Zambales officials pushed for the change, the NHI rejected them.

I can't believe that I got 38!:lol:

^^ I know that he's been pushing for it before but I never knew it was for Zambales. I hope the NHI does the same this time - reject it.

^^ Well, he is from Zambales. :lol:

if Waray was the basis of Filipino, for example, your idea could easily become one of Cebuanos committing linguicide simply because they have to learn Waray in addition to Cebuano.


ilonggo, cebuano, and waray belong to visayan language group

tagalog obliterated caviteno, ternateno, and ermiteno dialects in luzon

^^ Yeah, and Cebuano (nearly) obliterated Butuanon and Kinamigin (Camiguingnon). The argument goes both ways.

(By the way, there are still Caviteño and Ternateño Chavacano speakers left.)

Naalala ko nung bata ako, madali lang magdrawing ng flag. Yung araw kasi magdodrawing lang ako ng cross gamit ang dilaw na crayon, tapo papatungan yun ng 2 diagonal. Then patungan ng bilog at she-shade-an. Presto, 8 ray Sun na.

Kung gagawin nilang siyam yun, mas mahirap. Kailangan bilhan ng protractor ang mga bata at kailangan pa nila mag sukat para ma-drawing ng maayos ang araw sa watawat.

^^ Yeah, and Cebuano (nearly) obliterated Butuanon and Kinamigin (Camiguingnon). The argument goes both ways.

(By the way, there are still Caviteño and Ternateño Chavacano speakers left.)

Well, at least people like to learn the Cebuano language not because there is a law that force them to learn Cebuano language... ;)

^^ No, they were still forced to learn Cebuano (albeit without official sanction, as you'd like to put it) because it's the dominant language of the region. People do not like to learn new languages for the heck of it; they do so because it's practical. Wherever there is a dominant language, speakers of the minor languages will always have a greater incentive to learn the dominant language because it helps them assimilate better into the cultural fabric. Do you really think the Butuanons liked nearly killing off their own native language in favor of the dominant Cebuano?

This is also why the Ratagnon language of Occidental Mindoro is moribund: the Ratagnon people, who live in a Tagalophone province, see the need to learn Tagalog, and in the process became Tagalophone over a long period of time. Then again, there are only around five people in the Ratagnon ethnic group left, if I'm not mistaken.

The examples prove that language dominance and language shifts take place in any scenario, and not only with "Filipino" as some people would like to put it. Language shifts are determined by socio-cultural and economic forces, with politics entering the foray later on. However, those scenarios withstanding, the only ways Tagalog can "kill" Cebuano (which for some reason is the doomsday scenario some people are painting) are the following:

* There is a massive influx of Tagalophone speakers to Cebuanophone regions. This scenario is similar to that of the Cagayan Valley, which at the time of Spanish colonization was largely still Ibanag-speaking. However, in the 300 years of colonization, the region slowly, but surely, became largely Ilokanophone, and Ibanag is now a minority language in an area where it used to be dominant (this is unlikely as MatudNilaBaby said that the number of Tagalogs and Cebuanos are equal).
* There's a systematic policy of linguicide, where currently there is none (the currently Tagalophone national language coupled with an Anglophone language policy is a formula I hardly call linguicide).
* There's a pressing need for the Cebuanos to become Tagalophone (where currently there isn't any).

I still see no empirical evidence that suggests that Cebuano-Tagalog bilingualism is tantamount to killing off your own native language.

^^OK...But still the law that dictates the people to learn Cebuano is out of necessity, not a constitutional law that force people to learn "bakit bakit" for at least 10 school years... ;)

Cebuano language penetration to other ethnolinguistic group is just part of natural evolution, IMHO. And there is nothing wrong with that, IMHO again.

There is a big difference between eating noodles because you need/like to eat noodles compared to eating noodles because you are forced to eat.

^^OK...But still the law that dictates the people to learn Cebuano is out of necessity, not a constitutional law that force people to learn "bakit bakit" for at least 10 school years... ;)

Cebuano language penetration to other ethnolinguistic group is just part of natural evolution, IMHO. And there is nothing wrong with that, IMHO again.

There is a big difference between eating noodles because you need/like to eat noodles compared to eating noodles because you are forced to eat.
So if it's "natural evolution", it's okay to let other languages die a "natural" death? Such hypocrisy coming from one who demands that his own language not be "crushed" when it's clearly alive and well, on its way to stamping out languages (in lands that have only been occupied for a couple of generations) that he deems too unworthy for saving anyway.

I have much respect for speakers of languages I do not know how to speak (and would personally like to learn), but not when it's garbage like that.

Filipino allows ones who know how to speak even just the basics to conduct simple business and communication throughout the country, wherever people can speak it. It doesn't have the air of pretentiousness that English carries (to most people at least) because it was intended as a tool of national mass communication, conducted in a substrate Austronesian language (which makes it easier to learn for other Filipinos to learn), usually in settings where there is inter-ethnic interaction. This is the purpose of Filipino: it is not supposed to REPLACE local vernaculars, but rather COMPLEMENT them, by empowering the regular folk to converse with others outside their own ethno-linguistic group in a language with a MORE FAMILIAR set of sounds, and vocabulary and grammatical rules than Indo-European English. If people in other localities would like to communicate amongst themselves, there is no law stopping them to do so in whatever language they choose. There is no law making Filipino the ONLY language that needs to be spoken in everyday life either.

What ails the national language policy today is the lack of definition of what constitutes Filipino, and this becomes the sore point of contention between passionate sides of the debate. Yes, it is based on Tagalog, but how much of it? From watching, reading and listening to urban Filipino speakers all over the country, it seems that its construction is in Tagalog but many things in its lexicon and phonetics have already deviated so much from 'pure Tagalog' that it's becoming more of an acceptable (and comfortable) lingua franca that's understood by more people than ever before, preferred over English in inter-ethnic settings for its simplicity and fluidity, because there are no strict spellings like in English, and there is no systematic attempt to correct a non-native Tagalog speaker for making glaring conjugation mistakes or small accent and emphasis errors in everyday spoken language. That's because it's an evolving language, spoken by many non-native speakers who also enrich its vocabulary and grammar, and maybe that's where the genius of this loose language called "Filipino" lies. There will come a time that Filipino would have diverged so much from Tagalog that it simply wouldn't be a mere dialect of it anymore, but rather an inter-ethnic lingua franca spoken not in lieu of local languages, but alongside it.

^^ I know that he's been pushing for it before but I never knew it was for Zambales. I hope the NHI does the same this time - reject it.
The NHI can't do anything once it gets passed into law.

^^Read carefully, boy!

The keyword is "force"... :)

I am a Tagalog-speaking Visayan since I was born in Manila and grow up in Bulacan.

Perhaps our country should follow the Singapore example about national languages. They have 4 official languages, English, Malay, Chinese, and Indian "Hindi"

The Singaporeans whether Malay, Chinese, Indians, etc have to learn in the
primary school the 4 official languages.

The Chinese have to learn in the primary school : English, Malay, and Hindi

The Malay have to learn in the school : English, Chinese, and Hindi

The East Indians and Tamils have to learn in the school : English, Malay, and Chinese

The Eurasians, Filipinos who were Singapore-born, and other races who were Singaporeans have to learn Malay, Chinese, and Hindi.


Here in the Philippines perhaps we can adopt the Singapore example :
English, Spanish, Tagalog, Cebuano, and Ilocano can be our 5 official languages, More than 5 official languages is too difficult already

The problem is the Warays, Ilongos, Bicolanos, Pangasinans, Bicolanos, Tausogs, Maranaos, Antiqueno, and etc may complaint and cry foul and will say that is too unfair... :lol: :cheers:
It's mainly Tamil that's taught in Singapore, not Hindi. And students there only need to learn not four, but two languages: English and their 'mother tongue' which can be one of the other three languages (Mandarin Chinese, Tamil or Malay). And Singapore's situation is a lot different to the Philippines'. They have only 4 linguistic groups to satisfy and they have a small population on which to lavish the massive revenue their government collects. Do the math and you'll see that an ambitious 5-language curriculum will not only drive the country in a much more massive deficit, but also not address fundamental problems that require more urgent attention.

^^Read carefully, boy!

The keyword is "force"... :)
I beg to differ, the keyword is hypocrisy.

So if it's "natural evolution", it's okay to let other languages die a "natural" death? Such hypocrisy coming from one who demands that his own language not be "crushed" when it's clearly alive and well, on its way to stamping out languages (in lands that have only been occupied for a couple of generations) that he deems too unworthy for saving anyway.

I have much respect for speakers of languages I do not know how to speak (and would personally like to learn), but not when it's garbage like that.

Filipino allows ones who know how to speak even just the basics to conduct simple business and communication throughout the country, wherever people can speak it. It doesn't have the air of pretentiousness that English carries (to most people at least) because it was intended as a tool of national mass communication, conducted in a substrate Austronesian language (which makes it easier to learn for other Filipinos to learn), usually in settings where there is inter-ethnic interaction. This is the purpose of Filipino: it is not supposed to REPLACE local vernaculars, but rather COMPLEMENT them, by empowering the regular folk to converse with others outside their own ethno-linguistic group in a language with a MORE FAMILIAR set of sounds, and vocabulary and grammatical rules than Indo-European English. If people in other localities would like to communicate amongst themselves, there is no law stopping them to do so in whatever language they choose. There is no law making Filipino the ONLY language that needs to be spoken in everyday life either.

but which comes to mind, so why do formal education in schools esp during linggo ng wika should only be Tagalog? why should schools not promote other languages aside from tagalog? i mean, yes there might be no constitutional law banning the use of other languages aside from Tagalog a.k.a Filipino, at least for now but hey, these things won't stop unless its changed.

What ails the national language policy today is the lack of definition of what constitutes Filipino, and this becomes the sore point of contention between passionate sides of the debate. Yes, it is based on Tagalog, but how much of it? From watching, reading and listening to urban Filipino speakers all over the country, it seems that its construction is in Tagalog but many things in its lexicon and phonetics have already deviated so much from 'pure Tagalog' that it's becoming more of an acceptable (and comfortable) lingua franca that's understood by more people than ever before, preferred over English in inter-ethnic settings for its simplicity and fluidity, because there are no strict spellings like in English, and there is no systematic attempt to correct a non-native Tagalog speaker for making glaring conjugation mistakes or small accent and emphasis errors in everyday spoken language. That's because it's an evolving language, spoken by many non-native speakers who also enrich its vocabulary and grammar, and maybe that's where the genius of this loose language called "Filipino" lies. There will come a time that Filipino would have diverged so much from Tagalog that it simply wouldn't be a mere dialect of it anymore, but rather an inter-ethnic lingua franca spoken not in lieu of local languages, but alongside it.

true. its really the definition that ain't clear. they should change that.

simplicity and fluidity? you can only say that if your a native speaker. try asking that, to a cebuano maybe.

e.g. nakikipagsapalaran, nakikipagbakbakan, etc? too many repetitions ain't not simple IMO. its like a tongue twister! :lol::lol:

how about this, nakigaway (cebuano) for nakikipagawayan (tagalog) which is more simplier now? :D:D

I beg to differ, the keyword is hypocrisy.

OK then...Have a peaceful mind... :okay:

^^ Yeah, and Cebuano (nearly) obliterated Butuanon and Kinamigin (Camiguingnon). The argument goes both ways.


butuanon and kinamigin are also belong to the visayan language group

parang wala pang anchor from central luzon na naging anchor ng vismin

butuanon and kinamigin are also belong to the visayan language group

So what if they're Visayan? Is Cebuano the only language in the Visayan language group? Not all Visayan languages are mutually intelligible with Cebuano.

^^ No, they were still forced to learn Cebuano (albeit without official sanction, as you'd like to put it) because it's the dominant language of the region. People do not like to learn new languages for the heck of it; they do so because it's practical. Wherever there is a dominant language, speakers of the minor languages will always have a greater incentive to learn the dominant language because it helps them assimilate better into the cultural fabric. Do you really think the Butuanons liked nearly killing off their own native language in favor of the dominant Cebuano?

This is also why the Ratagnon language of Occidental Mindoro is moribund: the Ratagnon people, who live in a Tagalophone province, see the need to learn Tagalog, and in the process became Tagalophone over a long period of time. Then again, there are only around five people in the Ratagnon ethnic group left, if I'm not mistaken.

The examples prove that language dominance and language shifts take place in any scenario, and not only with "Filipino" as some people would like to put it. Language shifts are determined by socio-cultural and economic forces, with politics entering the foray later on. However, those scenarios withstanding, the only ways Tagalog can "kill" Cebuano (which for some reason is the doomsday scenario some people are painting) are the following:

* There is a massive influx of Tagalophone speakers to Cebuanophone regions. This scenario is similar to that of the Cagayan Valley, which at the time of Spanish colonization was largely still Ibanag-speaking. However, in the 300 years of colonization, the region slowly, but surely, became largely Ilokanophone, and Ibanag is now a minority language in an area where it used to be dominant (this is unlikely as MatudNilaBaby said that the number of Tagalogs and Cebuanos are equal).
* There's a systematic policy of linguicide, where currently there is none (the currently Tagalophone national language coupled with an Anglophone language policy is a formula I hardly call linguicide).
* There's a pressing need for the Cebuanos to become Tagalophone (where currently there isn't any).

I still see no empirical evidence that suggests that Cebuano-Tagalog bilingualism is tantamount to killing off your own native language.

So if it's "natural evolution", it's okay to let other languages die a "natural" death? Such hypocrisy coming from one who demands that his own language not be "crushed" when it's clearly alive and well, on its way to stamping out languages (in lands that have only been occupied for a couple of generations) that he deems too unworthy for saving anyway.

I have much respect for speakers of languages I do not know how to speak (and would personally like to learn), but not when it's garbage like that.

Filipino allows ones who know how to speak even just the basics to conduct simple business and communication throughout the country, wherever people can speak it. It doesn't have the air of pretentiousness that English carries (to most people at least) because it was intended as a tool of national mass communication, conducted in a substrate Austronesian language (which makes it easier to learn for other Filipinos to learn), usually in settings where there is inter-ethnic interaction. This is the purpose of Filipino: it is not supposed to REPLACE local vernaculars, but rather COMPLEMENT them, by empowering the regular folk to converse with others outside their own ethno-linguistic group in a language with a MORE FAMILIAR set of sounds, and vocabulary and grammatical rules than Indo-European English. If people in other localities would like to communicate amongst themselves, there is no law stopping them to do so in whatever language they choose. There is no law making Filipino the ONLY language that needs to be spoken in everyday life either.

What ails the national language policy today is the lack of definition of what constitutes Filipino, and this becomes the sore point of contention between passionate sides of the debate. Yes, it is based on Tagalog, but how much of it? From watching, reading and listening to urban Filipino speakers all over the country, it seems that its construction is in Tagalog but many things in its lexicon and phonetics have already deviated so much from 'pure Tagalog' that it's becoming more of an acceptable (and comfortable) lingua franca that's understood by more people than ever before, preferred over English in inter-ethnic settings for its simplicity and fluidity, because there are no strict spellings like in English, and there is no systematic attempt to correct a non-native Tagalog speaker for making glaring conjugation mistakes or small accent and emphasis errors in everyday spoken language. That's because it's an evolving language, spoken by many non-native speakers who also enrich its vocabulary and grammar, and maybe that's where the genius of this loose language called "Filipino" lies. There will come a time that Filipino would have diverged so much from Tagalog that it simply wouldn't be a mere dialect of it anymore, but rather an inter-ethnic lingua franca spoken not in lieu of local languages, but alongside it.

^^nag nosebleed ako...:):):)...pero may point kayo....:)

parang wala pang anchor from central luzon na naging anchor ng vismin

That's because there's only one Tagalog-language newscast in the Visayas and Mindanao: TV Patrol Socsksargen. Except for TV Patrol Iloilo, Negros, Tacloban and Chavacano, all TV Patrol regional newscasts in the Visayas and Mindanao are in Cebuano.

butuanon and kinamigin are also belong to the visayan language group

^^what do you mean by that?

but which comes to mind, so why do formal education in schools esp during linggo ng wika should only be Tagalog? why should schools not promote other languages aside from tagalog? i mean, yes there might be no constitutional law banning the use of other languages aside from Tagalog a.k.a Filipino, at least for now but hey, these things won't stop unless its changed.
I don't know about how others celebrate Buwan ng Wika (it's been changed to this now, actually), but from what I understand the government policy on it has recently changed to become more inclusive. It's not Filipino that's only celebrated, it's all indigenous languages, which have been recognized as key to achieving social and economic development. Local vernaculars are also used for basic instruction in public and many private schools, and they have the status of auxilliary languages and are continually used in local government, from provincial newsletters and pamphlets to municipal and barangay events. Where does linguicide fit into this?

simplicity and fluidity? you can only say that if your a native speaker. try asking that, to a cebuano maybe.

e.g. nakikipagsapalaran, nakikipagbakbakan, etc? too many repetitions ain't not simple IMO. its like a tongue twister! :lol::lol:

how about this, nakigaway (cebuano) for nakikipagawayan (tagalog) which is more simplier now? :D:D
It's not about how short you can spell or say something, it's about how easily you can construct or deconstruct a word, so that it can be easily taught and replicated. By saying nakikipag-awayan you are basically modifying a rootword by adding several elements that can be broken down formulaically:
away = fight
(pag-)away = the act of fighting
(maki)pag-away = to pick a fight
(naki)pag-away = participated in/picked a fight
naki(ki)pag-away = participating in a fight
nakikipag-away(an) = participating in a fight with many people/against others who reciprocate
And as for fluidity, even if a person says something not really grammatically correct in 'pure Tagalog' (such as the use of past tense when the sentence calls for present), the context always enables people to still understand what is being said. Who knows, maybe these mistakes will become more and more standard and gradually replace the old forms. This is why there is wisdom in not fixing Filipino into one strictly defined language - it's up to its speakers to decide where it goes and how it evolves, making it an important component of nation-building and the development of inter-ethnic relations.

the eight rays of the sun only represents the 8provinces na nakipaglaban o nagrebolusyon.. aware naman ang gov't noon sa partisipasyon ng muslim filipino pero ang concentration kasi ng rebolusyon ay sa luzon..

isa pa... pag nangyari yan... maraming magrereklamo.. sasabihin o kaming mga ilocano... kaming mga bicolano... kaming mga bisaya..palaweno etc..etc.. nakipaglaban kaya dapat may isang sinag pa diyan para sa amin.. aba ang magmumukang sunflower ang araw natin..

meron namang representation ang mindanao sa flag.. para sa kanila yung isang star.. yung isa para sa kabuuan ng visayas region at yung isa ay nirerepresent niya yung kabuuan ng luzon island..

another thing...MAHAL ANG PAGBABAGO NG DESIENYO NG ISANG FLAG...

Wag nang baguhin. Si Gordon lang naman may gusto nun.

This is why there is wisdom in not fixing Filipino into one strictly defined language - it's up to its speakers to decide where it goes and how it evolves, making it an important component of nation-building and the development of inter-ethnic relations.

This is also why there is much confusion over whether or not Filipino is truly distinct from Tagalog.

^^ that's why there must be a clear definition of what is really Filipino bec. in this side of the philippines, if you haven't been going to school and being formally introduced to Filipino, you wouldn't know there is really a language/dialect called Filipino bec. you'd only knew it as tagalog in media, etc.

I don't know about how others celebrate Buwan ng Wika (it's been changed to this now, actually), but from what I understand the government policy on it has recently changed to become more inclusive. It's not Filipino that's only celebrated, it's all indigenous languages, which have been recognized as key to achieving social and economic development. Local vernaculars are also used for basic instruction in public and many private schools, and they have the status of auxilliary languages and are continually used in local government, from provincial newsletters and pamphlets to municipal and barangay events. Where does linguicide fit into this?


well i think you should observe how buwan/linggo ng wika is celebrated in cebu for instance bec. you might be confused if there really isn't a law banning students from speaking any language aside from filipino/tagalog in philippine schools and cebu in particular. and if your saying to me that there has been changes going on now with regards to using individual languages, what took the government so long to realize all of this things? ngayon lang ba sila naging "open" sa ibang languages ng pilipinas? if they could have realized all of this in the early stage, wala na sanang ganitong mga usapan IMO.

^^ i don't know how many provinces we have... but i do know that they are represented as stars around the Presidential Seal...

in the event that the number of provinces change, either by removing or adding some, the number os stars in teh seal will also be changed...

we have 80 provinces as of today....

perhaps something like this:

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i3/gigapix/0d032878.png

i like this flag...

Four Stars representing Luzon, Visayas, Mindanao and Sabah...:banana::banana::banana:

^^ that's why there must be a clear definition of what is really Filipino bec. in this side of the philippines, if you haven't been going to school and being formally introduced to Filipino, you wouldn't know there is really a language/dialect called Filipino bec. you'd only knew it as tagalog in media, etc.
There should be some further definition, but not too restrictive that Filipino becomes confined to being an urban form of Tagalog forever, or too ahead of its time that it won't let Filipino evolve naturally to reflect how speakers actually use it. A further definition should provide a bit of direction for Filipino to evolve in so that it does not become stagnant and unappealing (i.e. saturated with English terms that have perfectly fine counterparts in various Philippine languages). I personally would like to see some terms and grammatical constructions unique in other Philippine languages to become incorporated in Filipino.

well i think you should observe how buwan/linggo ng wika is celebrated in cebu for instance bec. you might be confused if there really isn't a law banning students from speaking any language aside from filipino/tagalog in philippine schools and cebu in particular. and if your saying to me that there has been changes going on now with regards to using individual languages, what took the government so long to realize all of this things? ngayon lang ba sila naging "open" sa ibang languages ng pilipinas? if they could have realized all of this in the early stage, wala na sanang ganitong mga usapan IMO.
How people choose to celebrate what's supposed to be an enriching exercise in both civic/local pride and nation-building is not important. People have their own ideas of what it is, and its supposedly barbaric undertones, but in reality Filipino is not here to REPLACE local languages, but rather BRIDGE the communication gap that exist in inter-ethnic relations. Of course, there will always be controversy regarding what's supposed to be a non-event, but that is part of a healthy, ongoing process of learning from each other and understanding what it means to live in a multi-ethnic society. And in this process, Filipino is the intended linguistic medium through which ideas are brought to the nation's attention.

How people choose to celebrate what's supposed to be an enriching exercise in both civic/local pride and nation-building is not important. People have their own ideas of what it is, and its supposedly barbaric undertones, but in reality Filipino is not here to REPLACE local languages, but rather BRIDGE the communication gap that exist in inter-ethnic relations. Of course, there will always be controversy regarding what's supposed to be a non-event, but that is part of a healthy, ongoing process of learning from each other and understanding what it means to live in a multi-ethnic society. And in this process, Filipino is the intended linguistic medium through which ideas are brought to the nation's attention.

Exactly the point! Very well said! Bravo! :applause:

That should how ALL of us should be thinking. One language has been established have a single medium of communication. Take India as an example, they have a whole bunch of languages just like us. But when these languages meet, they use one language to communicate. The difference is that they use English instead of a local national language. Sana kasi ganito na lang pag-iisip nating lahat, hindi ung feeling ng iba gusto maging superior ung isa over another. Weird.

^^
the idea there is good but just like anything else, one great thing could end up like a mess if its done wrongly. even though the purpose of it is to unite people here with multi-linguistic backgrounds, the bad news naman is you cannot force people to act as one. people have different behaviors and traits. arrogant people would use this for power, influence, greed, discrimination, etc. while some good ones would not use it that way. i mean, okay lang naman eh na tagalog, pero minsan ginagawa na itong dahilan ng iba nating mga kababayan tagalog na maging mapagmataas sa sarili at minamaliit yung mga ibang pilipinong hindi naman tagalog. that's the point din eh purket taga maynila at tagalog ka pa may karapatan ka ng mangasar ng kapwa o mangmaliit ng tao lalo na yung mga probinsyano na hindi naman talaga nakatira sa probinsya sa kanilang lugar. take for example cebu city, purket hindi kasapi ang cebu city sa probinsya ng cebu pero the mere fact na pareho sila ng pangalan at pareho silang nasa isang isla, namimisinterpret kaagad ng mga taga manila na yung cebu city is no different than the rest of provincial cities in the country. kahit nga mga mayayaman at bigating mga tao sa cebu city pag nagaaral sa manila nakakaexperience din ng discrimination dahil nga cebuano sya at feeling siguro nila probinsyanong probinsyano at yung tono nya bisayang bisaya na "napakabaduy" pakinggan. ano ba yan! BUTI NA LANG MAY SSC PARA MALAMAN NG BUONG PILIPINAS NA GANITO KAMI SA AMIN, ETO ANG LUGAR NAMIN AT HINDI KAMI NAKATIRA SA PUNO O WALANG KURYENTE SA AMIN, MAY SM AT AYALA KAMI, MAY STARBUCKS, ETC. :lol::lol::lol::lol:

yung behavior ng tao kasin ang hindi mo maiintindihan kaya pilit mo na lang iniintindi sa sarili mo.

^^ Whoa there! Not all Tagalogs are condescending.

^^ I agree. And if you don't act baduy, I guess nobody would tag you as such. Ako, I admit, that when I hear people with accent, natatawa ako pero sinasarili ko na lang.

Pero hindi lang kayo nakaka-experience nyan. Nung baguhan ako sa UPLB, natatawa din sila sa sakin kasi minsan may accent ako or minsan kinakausap ko sila in Bicol. I just really don't know why Cebuanos are sooooo affected by this language whatever.

^^ Whoa there! Not all Tagalogs are condescending.

never did i said that. read my post again. :)

never did i said that. read my post again. :)

It's not what you said but how you said it. ;)

^^ I agree. And if you don't act baduy, I guess nobody would tag you as such. Ako, I admit, that when I hear people with accent, natatawa ako pero sinasarili ko na lang.

Pero hindi lang kayo nakaka-experience nyan. Nung baguhan ako sa UPLB, natatawa din sila sa sakin kasi minsan may accent ako or minsan kinakausap ko sila in Bicol. I just really don't know why Cebuanos are sooooo affected by this language whatever.

actually sa amin na yun bai. you don't have to know the root cause of it. if youre very much intrigue, may archives tayo dito. the best thing that you can do is be quite and mmmmm..... :)

^^ Nah. I can't stay quiet when I'm a member of this forum and so long as i don't troll around, no one can EVER stop me from posting and answering whatever there is for me to reply to. And as long as it's not clear to me, I'd not stop asking.

@kevinb, better check archives na lang. Kasi para na kaming sirang plaka...Pasensya na.

Overall, history and past experiences with Tagalog people has somewhat embedded some resentment into most of the Cebuano people. I say MOST, not all.

And perhaps, we just interpreted our sense of pride different from the way you people from Bicol interprets it... ;)

Who knows, in the future, Cebuanos annoying and assholey way may become beneficial to this country... :okay::nocrook:

^^ Nah. I can't stay quiet when I'm a member of this forum and so long as i don't troll around, no one can EVER stop me from posting and answering whatever there is for me to reply to. And as long as it's not clear to me, I'd not stop asking.

no. what i mean when i said be quiet is not in the forums. what i mean is the best thing you can do in real life is just be civil and be quiet, try to understand and don't argue till the last breath. avoid issues that are considered sensitive in real public. i don't expect you to argue with a cebuano in public about these things we have right now in the forums, its kinda awful really. :lol::lol::nuts:

well, unless if you have a brave heart i suppose, then go ahead! :lol::lol:

and just like what bai @sleep here has said, search the archives. its all there. let's just spare this thread from another OT....;)

-dp-

^^tama na yan guys...pinoy tayong lahat....:):):)

^^tama na yan guys...pinoy tayong lahat....:):):)

Don't run into that safe corner bai! We know we are all Pinoys, and that's why we argue here because we want to earn our share in being a Pinoy (because we have to contribute to be called Pinoy and not just accept what identity is forced upon us). The whole grudge is the result of an act which had been already done several decades ago! Of course, I don't think it is fruitless to continue arguing if the said decision was unwise and unfair (considering, that, and this is the sirang plaka part, Cebuano was a major language and still is!) because what would have happened and would happen if we just sat still and watched things go pass us by?

Tagalog-speakers don't do well to argue against this because they/you are not the aggrieved party! Because, you don't really understand (unless you are Cebuano yourself, I think). And no, I don't think its your fault, because as I have said, the act was commited long before you were born (before we were born!) And also, no, I dont think the Cebuanos are the only aggrieved party here but the other languages as well (and I am quite appalled by the passivity which they pass for adaptability, and nod contentedly to themselves as possessing the golden virtue of a cooperative Filipino citizen). Someone asks,
"why is it only Cebuanos are making such a fuss out of this whole thing?". I ask the opposite, why shouldn't you?!! Why is it only Cebuanos who are crying out?! Bicolano is also suffering the same fate.

The issue is, if the same thing were to happen today, would you have done the same thing? Create a legislation for an artificial national language that HAS to be taught in all schools (while the local language isn't = the sore thumb here really) which is 90% or so (figure is not exact I know, but you get the drift) based on Tagalog?!

From your defensive arguments, it seems to me that you would. Because, I don't get the impression that you think that decision was unwise. There doesn't seem to be any admittance, but only defense. But well I really hope that you think otherwise and wouldn't do the same thing.

And no, I am not after Cebuano being taught in all schools around the country (because that is quite a grand example of hypocrisy there). But that I would assert that it is my right to be taught my own language in a formal setting. This is where Tagalophones have a hard time getting. That just because we speak Cebuano, we are functionally literate and that Cebuano is alive and well (and the other Philippine languages too). No, its sad to say that it is difficult to write in Cebuano properly because we are not taught this in school, and majority of Cebuanos would agree with me on this. In my case, I am even more confident of my grammar in Tagalog/Filipino than in my native Cebuano and when it comes to spelling and writing. Because we are not taught Cebuano in school. And that is not only that. More than 95% (I would even say close to 100%) of us young Cebuanos don't know these lovely and funny words as mundane as the days of the week and the name of months in Cebuano:

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh168/eskeryon/DSC08551.jpg

These words are lovely because the names are so much meaningful than the prosaic January or Enero, because they represent a way of life. They tell a story interwoven with the daily rhythms and seasons (for example October is BagyoBagyo which really IS the typhoon season, and SUnday is LiguidLiguid which means to roll and relax). That makes me really sad. This is our heritage. But we are losing this, because we are not taught this at the basic school. And you cannot say we are too stubborn just because I want to learn my language in school. Because I want to write in it too (and I only started truly writing in it at 23 years old!). Se, we don't really have a choice but to learn only Tagalog or Filipino (because they really mean the same thing to us, though I know the difference but maybe not enough to warrant statistical significance hehe) and English in school, and use Cebuano outside with the subconscious notion that ours is an insignificant and inferior language because it doesn't warrant being taught at all.

Because you want me to be a proud Filipino doesn't mean I will shed off my being Cebuano and Waray. I am proud to be Pinoy, but I cannot think of being a Pinoy without being a Cebuano (it is like being an Asian, but profoundly being Filipino first). And when I say I am a Pinoy but I am not a Tagalog, it doesn't mean I hate Tagalogs and I will be accused of being too regionalistic. It's just a fact that I happen to be a Cebuano and a Pinoy. I am Pinoy, and so are the Tagalogs, Ilocanos, Ilonggos, and so on (I apologize for those lumped under so on, I am just citing some other random examples).


Not OT part:
I actually think a plain circle for the sun would be more beautiful, decent and fair to all parties. It means that there are no provinces favored and that all are equal in being called Filipinos and being part of the Philippines. Visually, the simple circular sun just seems so much better too. And no, I am not really against the idea of changing some aspects of the flag, because flags do change and evolve and so did our own flag undergo changes that reflected our identity, ideas and sensibilities as a FIlipino. A circle sends this signal that we have matured from a luzon-centric (or should I say Greater Manila-Centric) concept of the Philippines and the Filipino, into a more inclusive one. That all Filipinos are equal in the claim of being called Filipinos, that we all earned to be Filipinos. And the fact that we put that in the flag says something.

This thread has become boring and stupid. Can we discuss something still relevant to the topic? Becuase if not, then I say we should kiss this thread goodbye.

This thread has become boring and stupid. Can we discuss something still relevant to the topic? Becuase if not, then I say we should kiss this thread goodbye.

Agree madam... the thread is going round and round and round and round...:lol::lol:

This thread has become boring and stupid. Can we discuss something still relevant to the topic? Becuase if not, then I say we should kiss this thread goodbye.

Then by all means madam mod, say something UNboring and UNstupid to take this back to the right road.:)

Or we can just shut this down.




:lock:

Then by all means madam mod, say something UNboring and UNstupid to take this back to the right road.:)Never mind. It seems the mods would agree with me to just close this and put it in the archives. I can see that all forumers have said their opinions. I guess we have given enough space and enough time to post the forumers' concern with regards to the revision of the National Flag. And since the proposal in Congress is not progressing anymore, I believe this thread should die now as well.

Byers! :lock:

OMG sabi ko bawal spoiler eh ba 'yan

enjoy sha... i only got 32.

I can't believe that I got 38!:lol:

Uy, Congrats @carl!:) Ayokong mag-try, hehehe.

Uy, Congrats @carl!:) Ayokong mag-try, hehehe.

I only got 25 :nuts:

^^ That's from SSC-Bacolod's "Walking Encyclopedia and Historian"! MAS ayoko ng mag-try, hehehe.

^^ That's from SSC-Bacolod's "Walking Encyclopedia and Historian"! MAS ayoko ng mag-try, hehehe.

Nyek!....I may not know things that you know!:lol:

Sorry for the Clerical Errors. This is the Accurate One.

OLDEST UNIVERSITY : University of Santo Tomas

OLDEST SCHOOL: University of San Carlos

LARGEST HIGH SCHOOL: Rizal High School

LARGEST COLLEGE: University of the Philippines

LARGEST SCHOOL CAMPUS : Visayas State University 1,100 hectares

University of the Philippines - Visayas (1,200)
However it is disputed since other land areas are already forested. The Visayas State University is 1,100 hectares of academic areas

October 18, 2009, 5:30pm (http://www.mb.com.ph/articles/225340/17th-meat-safety-consciousness-week-and-37th-national-meat-inspection-service-annive)

As early as the 19th century, a Spanish Royal Decree instituted a meat inspection system in the Philippines. The system called for a record of meat inspection activities and statistics, employing the services of government-appointment meat inspectors or supervisors whose only task was to witness the slaughtering process.

When the Americans came in the early 20th century, the simple Philippine meat inspection service came under the guidance and supervision of the US Federal Meat Inspection Service. A veterinary surgeon under the Public Commissioner of Health conducted the meat inspection. A new system, more advanced, organized, and detailed than the Spanish one, was put in place, adopting the procedures that the Americans used in their own country.

From the American colonial period, the meat inspection system in the country continually evolved until the the establishment of the National Meat Inspection Commission (NMIC) in 1972. When many national government services were devolved as a result of Republic Act 7160, the Local Government Code of the Philippines, the law recognized the construction, maintenance, and operation of slaughterhouses as one of the basic services and facilities that should be delivered by local government units.

The NMIC maintained its task to protect the meat-consuming public through effective meat inspection service by adopting and implementing new technologies to assure food safety. In 2004, Republic Act 9296, the Meat Inspection Code of the Philippines, was signed into law strengthening the country’s meat inspection system. By virtue of the Code, the National Meat Inspection Commission (NMIC), renamed the National Meat Inspection Service (NMIS), was mandated to serve as the sole national controlling authority tasked to implement policies, programs, guidelines, and rules and regulations pertaining to meat inspection and meat hygiene to ensure meat safety and quality from farm to table.

This week, the NMIS takes the lead in the national observance of National Meat Safety Consciousness Week with the theme “Para Sa Kaligtasan ng Karne, Kaisa Ako.’’ The activities slated for the week include the launching of collaboration between the parent department of the NMIS, the Department of Agriculture (DA), with the Department of Health (DoH), and the conferring of the “Kabalikat sa Paglilingkod’’ award on select national and local government units and industry partners. Another highlight of the celebration is the holding of the National Meat Inspector Congress.

We congratulate the National Meat Inspection Service for its continuing effort to secure the safety of this agricultural product and mobilize the participation of relevant groups and communities.

OLDEST UNIVERSITY : University of Santo Tomas

OLDEST SCHOOL: University of San Carlos

LARGEST HIGH SCHOOL: Rizal High School

LARGEST COLLEGE: Visayas State University

LARGEST SCHOOL: Visayas State University

largest college? May I ask on what aspect/s? because I think there are other larger schools around the country (or even in the Visayas)

College Campus? I think the largest would be UP Los Baños, UP Visayas, U.P. Diliman, Silliman University

Largest School? I think the four earlier mantioned are big schools too. If you mean population we could have U.P. Diliman could be a front runner.

If you want to be specific with Western Visayas, maraming schools with large
campus areas and/or population. Examples are:

Central Philippine University
University of San Agustin
University of St.La Salle
UP Visayas (Main)
Aklan State University (Main)
Negros Occidental Agricultural State College
Capiz State University (Main)
Northern Iloilo State University (Estancia)
University of Negros Occidental-Recoletos

^^^^ Waaaah I ONLY GOT 43/75!!! huhuhuhuhuhu here it is...

population mun/city
2,679,450 Quezon City
1,660,714 Manila
1,378,856 Caloocan City
1,363,337 Davao City
798,804 Cebu City
774,407 Zamboanga City
633,971 Antipolo City
617,301 Pasig City
613,343 Taguig City
568,928 Valenzuela City
556,330 Dasmarinas, Cavite
553,966 Cagayan de Oro City
552,660 Parañaque City
532,330 Las Piñas City
529,542 General Santos City
510,383 Makati City
499,497 Bacolod City
452,943 Muntinlupa City
441,197 Bacoor, Cavite
439,090 San Jose del Monte, Bulacan
424,610 Marikina City
418,710 Iloilo City
403,064 Pasay City
363,381 Malabon City
360,281 Calamba, Laguna

population mun/city
318,575 Mandaue City
314,493 Angeles City
314,155 Tarlac City
308,046 Iligan City
305,576 Mandaluyong City
301,926 Baguio City
298,378 Butuan City
295,231 Batangas City
292,530 Lapu-Lapu City
289,838 Cainta, Rizal
281,808 San Pedro, Laguna
269,365 San Fernando, Pampanga
266,943 Sta. Rosa, Laguna
262,735 Biñan, Laguna
262,495 Taytay, Rizal
260,568 Lipa City
259,267 Cabanatuan City
259,153 Cotabato City
253,158 Imus, Cavite
245,344 Navotas City
238,931 Binangonan, Rizal
237,259 San Pablo City
236,390 Lucena City
227,270 Olongapo City
223,594 Rodriguez, Rizal

population mun/city
223,069 Malolos, Bulacan
218,387 Gen. Trias, Cavite
217,199 Tacloban City
215,967 Tagum, Davao del Norte
210,508 Puerto Princesa City
205,376 Cabuyao, Laguna
205,258 Santa Maria, Bulacan
203,307 Mabalacat, Pampanga
199,825 Silang, Cavite
196,569 Meycauayan, Bulacan
184,860 San Mateo, Rizal
179,481 Legazpi City
179,359 Talisay, Cebu
177,524 Ormoc City
177,391 Marawi City
171,795 Tanza, Cavite
166,970 Kabankalan, Negros Occidental
163,657 Calbayog, Samar
162,745 Valencia, Bukidnon
161,884 San Carlos, Pangasinan
161,312 Pagadian City
160,516 Naga City
160,452 Marilao, Bulacan
159,933 Bago, Negros Occidental
154,329 Panabo, Davao del Norte

in fairness 3 of the MOST POPULOUS CITIES in the Philippines were found in Negros Occidental...

^^^^ I got 16/20 in this one... huhuhuhuh BAD!

Top COFFEE Producing Countries

Tonnes per year Country
2,178,246 Brazil
1,060,000 Vietnam
710,000 Colombia
665,500 Indonesia
325,800 Ethiopia
320,000 Mexico
275,000 India
230,000 Peru
216,600 Guatemala
200,000 Honduras

Tonnes per year Country
171,000 Côte d'Ivoire
168,000 Uganda
110,400 Costa Rica
106,000 Philippines
94,514 El Salvador
81,818 Nicaragua
75,400 Papua New Guinea
75,000 Venezuela
62,000 Madagascar
55,660 Thailand

:)

^^^^ I got 19/22 with this one...

Rank City Population
1 Moscow, Russia 8,297,000
2 London, United Kingdom 7,074,000
4 Berlin, Germany 3,387,000
5 Madrid, Spain 2,824,000
13 Warsaw, Poland 1,615,000
15 Vienna, Austria 1,540,000
22 Munich, Germany 1,195,000
23 Prague, Czech Republic 1,193,000
24 Samara, Russia 1,165,000
32 Naples, Italy 1,047,000
36 Odessa, Ukraine 1,002,000

Rank City Population
43 Zagreb, Croatia 868,000
49 Athens, Greece 772,000
52 Krakow, Poland 740,000
79 Poznan, Poland 578,000
82 Lisbon, Portugal 563,000
84 Malaga, Spain 543,000
85 Bremen, Germany 540,000
89 Ryazan, Russia 528,000
98 Tyumen, Russia 502,000
106 Dublin, Ireland 482,000
117 Gdansk, Poland

Sorry all for the OT... its fun trying these games out!!!

largest college? May I ask on what aspect/s? because I think there are other larger schools around the country (or even in the Visayas)

College Campus? I think the largest would be UP Los Baños, UP Visayas, U.P. Diliman, Silliman University

Largest School? I think the four earlier mantioned are big schools too. If you mean population we could have U.P. Diliman could be a front runner.

If you want to be specific with Western Visayas, maraming schools with large
campus areas and/or population. Examples are:

Central Philippine University
University of San Agustin
University of St.La Salle
UP Visayas (Main)
Aklan State University (Main)
Negros Occidental Agricultural State College
Capiz State University (Main)
Northern Iloilo State University (Estancia)
University of Negros Occidental-Recoletos

i don't think any of the schools you mentioned is any larger than a thousand hectares (10 km²)

Visayas State University was formerly known as Leyte State University (LSU) in Baybay, Leyte, Philippines. The five-campus VSU system has ten colleges, three institutes and one school. Located in the main campus are the College of Veterinary Medicine, College of Engineering and Agri-Industries, College of Education, College of Forestry and Natural Resources, Institute of Strategic Research and Development Studies, and the Graduate School and Special Programs.

It continues to specialize in agricultural research and education, including work in jatropha propagation for the production of biofuel and development of a dwarf macapuno coconut and rootcrops, particularly, sweetpotato, cassava and yam. The university also hosts a program on rainforestation, and features an annual rodeo competition.
To improve human resources in the Visayas and nearby regions, VSU provides relevant instructional programs that best serve the needs of its target clientele. The various degree programs of the University emphasize the development of technical, managerial, and entrepreneurial skills of the students. Hands-on practicum as well as field training using state- of-the-art facilities and equipment are provided to enrich curricular programs in Agro-Industry, Information Technology, Tropical Ecology, Veterinary Medicine, Forestry, Fishery, and Food Science and Technology.
The VSU Main Campus is situated in Barangay Pangasugan, Baybay, Leyte. It is about 8 km. north of the town of Baybay and 34 km south of Ormoc City, Leyte. It is easily accessible by land and by sea from the different parts of the province. An all-weather airport facilites are located in Tacloban City and Ormoc City. Several inter-island passenger vessels including fast craft services ply from the city ports of Maasin, Ormoc and Tacloban and the towns of Baybay, Bato and Hilongos to the major islands in the Visayas.
Standing on plains and hillsides of the more than 1,099-hectare campus are 193 buildings composed of academic departments, research and trainings centers, staff and student housing facilities and other vital structures. VSU is the country's largest school campus.
The University is home to high-caliber faculty and academic staff obtaining most of their local and international recognitions in research and development, 92 of whom are Ph. D. degree holders, 110 MS degree holders and 72 BS degree holders from reputable colleges and universities here and abroad.
As proof of VSU's excellence in instruction, the university produced several board topnotchers in national licensure examinations for agriculture, agricultural engineering, geodetic and geomatics engineering, forestry, chemistry and veterinary medicine. Other achievements of the university include the following:
• Zonal Agricultural University (ZAU) for the Visayas under the National Agriculture Education System (NAES) concept.
• CHED Center of Excellence (COE) in Agriculture Education, Agricultural Engineering and Forestry.
• Level III AACCUP accredited university.
• Authorized by the Bureau of Immigration to accept foreign students.

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=30522973&id=1172647272

I was able to tally 57/75 or 76%.hehe

Subukan niyo kung kaya niyo yung 100 sige

largest college? May I ask on what aspect/s? because I think there are other larger schools around the country (or even in the Visayas)

College Campus? I think the largest would be UP Los Baños, UP Visayas, U.P. Diliman, Silliman University

Largest School? I think the four earlier mantioned are big schools too. If you mean population we could have U.P. Diliman could be a front runner.

If you want to be specific with Western Visayas, maraming schools with large
campus areas and/or population. Examples are:

Central Philippine University
University of San Agustin
University of St.La Salle
UP Visayas (Main)
Aklan State University (Main)
Negros Occidental Agricultural State College
Capiz State University (Main)
Northern Iloilo State University (Estancia)
University of Negros Occidental-Recoletos

i don't think any of the schools you mentioned is any larger than a thousand hectares (10 km²)

Visayas State University was formerly known as Leyte State University (LSU) in Baybay, Leyte, Philippines. The five-campus VSU system has ten colleges, three institutes and one school. Located in the main campus are the College of Veterinary Medicine, College of Engineering and Agri-Industries, College of Education, College of Forestry and Natural Resources, Institute of Strategic Research and Development Studies, and the Graduate School and Special Programs.

It continues to specialize in agricultural research and education, including work in jatropha propagation for the production of biofuel and development of a dwarf macapuno coconut and rootcrops, particularly, sweetpotato, cassava and yam. The university also hosts a program on rainforestation, and features an annual rodeo competition.
To improve human resources in the Visayas and nearby regions, VSU provides relevant instructional programs that best serve the needs of its target clientele. The various degree programs of the University emphasize the development of technical, managerial, and entrepreneurial skills of the students. Hands-on practicum as well as field training using state- of-the-art facilities and equipment are provided to enrich curricular programs in Agro-Industry, Information Technology, Tropical Ecology, Veterinary Medicine, Forestry, Fishery, and Food Science and Technology.
The VSU Main Campus is situated in Barangay Pangasugan, Baybay, Leyte. It is about 8 km. north of the town of Baybay and 34 km south of Ormoc City, Leyte. It is easily accessible by land and by sea from the different parts of the province. An all-weather airport facilites are located in Tacloban City and Ormoc City. Several inter-island passenger vessels including fast craft services ply from the city ports of Maasin, Ormoc and Tacloban and the towns of Baybay, Bato and Hilongos to the major islands in the Visayas.
Standing on plains and hillsides of the more than 1,099-hectare campus are 193 buildings composed of academic departments, research and trainings centers, staff and student housing facilities and other vital structures. VSU is the country's largest school campus.
The University is home to high-caliber faculty and academic staff obtaining most of their local and international recognitions in research and development, 92 of whom are Ph. D. degree holders, 110 MS degree holders and 72 BS degree holders from reputable colleges and universities here and abroad.
As proof of VSU's excellence in instruction, the university produced several board topnotchers in national licensure examinations for agriculture, agricultural engineering, geodetic and geomatics engineering, forestry, chemistry and veterinary medicine. Other achievements of the university include the following:
• Zonal Agricultural University (ZAU) for the Visayas under the National Agriculture Education System (NAES) concept.
• CHED Center of Excellence (COE) in Agriculture Education, Agricultural Engineering and Forestry.
• Level III AACCUP accredited university.
• Authorized by the Bureau of Immigration to accept foreign students.

Please read again sir, I only stated WESTERN VISAYAS...he hehe hehe....kasi even our Oriental side, Silliman University may dwarf a majority of universities in WV. Please be guided accordingly...:):):)

University of the Philippines in the Visayas (main campus) has 1,200++ hectares of land in Miag-ao, Iloilo although only 1/6 of the total land area is being utilized. The rest is still farmlands and forests.

I like the quiz...got 77 out of a 100.

largest college? May I ask on what aspect/s? because I think there are other larger schools around the country (or even in the Visayas)

College Campus? I think the largest would be UP Los Baños, UP Visayas, U.P. Diliman, Silliman University

Largest School? I think the four earlier mantioned are big schools too. If you mean population we could have U.P. Diliman could be a front runner.

If you want to be specific with Western Visayas, maraming schools with large
campus areas and/or population. Examples are:

Central Philippine University
University of San Agustin
University of St.La Salle
UP Visayas (Main)
Aklan State University (Main)
Negros Occidental Agricultural State College
Capiz State University (Main)
Northern Iloilo State University (Estancia)
University of Negros Occidental-Recoletos

i don't think any of the schools you mentioned is any larger than a thousand hectares (10 km²)

Visayas State University was formerly known as Leyte State University (LSU) in Baybay, Leyte, Philippines. The five-campus VSU system has ten colleges, three institutes and one school. Located in the main campus are the College of Veterinary Medicine, College of Engineering and Agri-Industries, College of Education, College of Forestry and Natural Resources, Institute of Strategic Research and Development Studies, and the Graduate School and Special Programs.

It continues to specialize in agricultural research and education, including work in jatropha propagation for the production of biofuel and development of a dwarf macapuno coconut and rootcrops, particularly, sweetpotato, cassava and yam. The university also hosts a program on rainforestation, and features an annual rodeo competition.
To improve human resources in the Visayas and nearby regions, VSU provides relevant instructional programs that best serve the needs of its target clientele. The various degree programs of the University emphasize the development of technical, managerial, and entrepreneurial skills of the students. Hands-on practicum as well as field training using state- of-the-art facilities and equipment are provided to enrich curricular programs in Agro-Industry, Information Technology, Tropical Ecology, Veterinary Medicine, Forestry, Fishery, and Food Science and Technology.
The VSU Main Campus is situated in Barangay Pangasugan, Baybay, Leyte. It is about 8 km. north of the town of Baybay and 34 km south of Ormoc City, Leyte. It is easily accessible by land and by sea from the different parts of the province. An all-weather airport facilites are located in Tacloban City and Ormoc City. Several inter-island passenger vessels including fast craft services ply from the city ports of Maasin, Ormoc and Tacloban and the towns of Baybay, Bato and Hilongos to the major islands in the Visayas.
Standing on plains and hillsides of the more than 1,099-hectare campus are 193 buildings composed of academic departments, research and trainings centers, staff and student housing facilities and other vital structures. VSU is the country's largest school campus.
The University is home to high-caliber faculty and academic staff obtaining most of their local and international recognitions in research and development, 92 of whom are Ph. D. degree holders, 110 MS degree holders and 72 BS degree holders from reputable colleges and universities here and abroad.
As proof of VSU's excellence in instruction, the university produced several board topnotchers in national licensure examinations for agriculture, agricultural engineering, geodetic and geomatics engineering, forestry, chemistry and veterinary medicine. Other achievements of the university include the following:
• Zonal Agricultural University (ZAU) for the Visayas under the National Agriculture Education System (NAES) concept.
• CHED Center of Excellence (COE) in Agriculture Education, Agricultural Engineering and Forestry.
• Level III AACCUP accredited university.
• Authorized by the Bureau of Immigration to accept foreign students.

Please read again sir, I only stated WESTERN VISAYAS...he hehe hehe....kasi even our Oriental side, Silliman University may dwarf a majority of universities in WV. Please be guided accordingly...:):):)


^^i think it was urban's reply to your post (the one highlighted above)....since nag duda ka na VSU is the largest campus...read your post also and be guided accordingly....:)

^^thanks, mao

Please read again sir, I only stated WESTERN VISAYAS...he hehe hehe....kasi even our Oriental side, Silliman University may dwarf a majority of universities in WV. Please be guided accordingly...:):):)

^^

largest college? May I ask on what aspect/s? because I think there are other larger schools around the country (or even in the Visayas)

College Campus? I think the largest would be UP Los Baños, UP Visayas, U.P. Diliman, Silliman University

^^thanks, mao



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University of the Philippines - Los Banos, Laguna 22,000 hectares

University of the Philippines - Iloilo City, Iloilo 1,200 hectares

Visayas State University - Baybay City, Leyte 1,099 hectares

^^^^ ANG LALAKI NAMAN TALAGA!!!!!! lol

..........but nung pumunta akong UP-iloilo... parang hindi naman 1,200 hectars, ung UPLB, parang isang city na ah... ung VSU ive never been there pero ung sa pic? parang nasa korea... lol ... according to wikipedia... standing on the plains and hillsides facing the sea... ganda! may nautical ba ung VSU? kasi may dagat sila eh...

^^ Ask the World Bank about it...:lol: They haven't provided the budget.

The UPV Iloilo City Campus is just like the city campuses of UPV Cebu and Tacloban. It is just a small plot of land...UPV Miag-ao on the other hand has the 1,200++ hectares although only 1/6 of its total land area are utilized, the rest are still farmlands. The campus isn't fully developed yet. Just think about how to develop a national university's 1,200 hectares given the situation of SCUs in the country aren't even capable to raise enough money to fully develop their potential. ;)

And given the situation of the current charter of UP (changed after 100 years!), they have other plans with their land assets. I guess, in the situation of UP Visayas (Miag-ao), they are still waiting for the funds to be given and make a way to use the idle lands to probably a joint venture use like what they did to UP-Ayala Technohub in UP Diliman.

And another thing about UPV Miag-ao, they would like to also preserve the biodiversity of the area. Most of its 1,200 hectares won't be like a city like UP Diliman but would be similar to that of UPLB.

# The exotic jeepney is a post-war creation inspired by the GI jeeps that the American soldiers brought to the country in the 1940s. Enterprising Filipinos salvaged the surplus engines and came out unique vehicles of art.

# Short distance and feeder trips could not be more exciting than via Philippine quick transports – the tricycle, a motorcycle with a sidecar, and the pedicab, a bicycle with a sidecar.

# The world’s longest underground river system accessible to man can be found at the St. Paul National Park in the province of Palawan.

# The largest Philippine wild animal, the tamaraw, is a species of the buffalo that is similar to the carabao. It is found only in the island of Mindoro.

# The highest mountain in the Philippines is Mt. Apo, a dormant volcano found in Mindanao, at 2,954 meters (9,689 feet). Mt. Pulog in Luzon is the second highest at 2,928 meters (9604 feet).

# Filipino bowler Rafael "Paeng" Nepomuceno was the first bowler to be elevated to the International Bowling Hall of Fame based in St. Louis, Missouri, USA. The Philippine Congress has named him “Greatest Filipino Athlete of All Time.”

# Philippine National Hero and writer Jose Rizal could read and write at age 2. He grew up to speak more than 20 languages, including Latin, Greek, German, French, and Chinese. What were his last words? "Consummatum est!" ("It is done!")

# The largest city in the Philippines is Davao City. With an area of 2,211 sq. km., it is about three times the size of the national capital, Metro Manila.

# Cebu is the oldest Philippine city.

# Negros Occidental has the most cities among Philippine provinces.

# Filipinos celebrate the world’s longest religious holiday. The Christmas season begins on September 1st, as chillier winds and Christmas carols start filling the air, and ends on the first week of January, during the Feast of the Three Kings.

# Paskuhan Village in the province of Pampanga is Asia’s only Christmas theme park and the third of its kind in the world.


# The great Christmans lanterns of San Fernando, Pampanga can reach as big as 40 feet in diameter, using as many as 16,000 glowing bulbs.

# The exotic jeepney is the Filipino version of the jitney, the taxi/minibus that travels along a fixed route, found in many countries.

# The popular toy, the yoyo, was invented by 16th century hunters in the Philippines.

# The word "boondocks," which is now a part of the English language, dictionary, and vocabulary, comes from the Tagalog word "bundok," meaning "mountain."

# The Philippines became the first Asian country to win FIVE major international beauty pageant crowns — two for Miss Universe, in 1969 and 1973, and three for Miss International, in 1965, 1970, and 1979.

# Diving paradise Anilao, in the province of Batangas, is the theme of a picture book that bagged the International Prize for Underwater Images at the 27th World Festival of Underwater Images in France in November 2000. “Anilao" book creators and Filipino scuba divers Scott Tuason and Eduardo Cu Unjieng defeated big names in underwater photography such as Jacques Mayol, Pascal Kobeh, Monique Walker, and Alessandro Tommasi.

# The biggest game preserve and wildlife sanctuary in the Philippines is located on Calauit Island in Palawan, which has the largest land area among the Philippine provinces.

# The antibiotic erythromycin — used to treat a wide variety of bacterial infections, such as respiratory tract infections, middle ear infections, and skin infections — was created by Filipino scientist Abelardo Aguilar, and has earned American drug giant Eli Lilly billions of dollars. Neither Aguilar nor the Philippine government received royalties.

# Fernando Amorsolo was officially the first National Artist of the Philippines. He was given the distinction of National Artist for Painting in 1972.

# Philippines Herald war journalist Carlos P. Romulo was the first Asian to win a Pulitzer Prize in Journalism in 1942. He was also aide-de-camp to General Douglas MacArthur in World War II; Philippine resident commissioner in the U.S. Congress from 1944-46; and the first Asian to become UN President in 1949.

# The largest fish in the world, the Whale Shark, locally known as Butanding, regularly swims to the Philippine waters.

# The world’s shortest and lightest freshwater fish is the dwarf pygmy goby (Pandaka Pygmaea), a colorless and nearly transparent species found in the streams and lakes of Luzon. Males have an average length of 8.7 mm. and weigh 4-5 mg.

# On January 18, 1995, Pope John Paul II offered mass to an estimated 4 to 5 million people at Luneta Park, Manila, Philippines, making it to the Guiness Book of World Records for the Biggest Papal Crowd.

# The Philippine Madrigal Singers bagged the 1997 European Choral Grand Prix, the choral olympics of the world’s best choirs. The group, being the only Asian choir, bested five regional champions from all over Europe, earning them the title as the "world’s best choir."

# There are 12,000 or so species of seashells in the Philippines. The Conus Gloriamaris or "Glory of the Sea" is the rarest and most expensive in the world.

# Of the 500 known coral species in the world, 488 are found in the Philippines.

# Of the eight species of marine turtles worldwide, five are reported to be found in the Philippines: the Green Turtle, Hawkbill, Leatherback, Olive Ridley, and Loggerhead.

# Of the eight known species of giant clams in the world, seven are found in the Philippines.

# The Basilica of San Sebastian is the only steel church in Asia and was the second building to be made out of steel, next to the Eiffel Tower in Paris.

# The largest bell in Asia hangs at the belfry of the 221-year old Panay Church. It is 7 feet in diameter and 7 feet in height, and weighs 10.4 tons. Its tolling can be heard as far as 8 km. away. It was casted from 70 sacks of coins donated by the townspeople as a manifestation of faith and thanksgiving.


# The World Cup, which was instituted in 1965, is contested annually by the national champions of the Federation Internationale des Quilleurs (FIQ). The highest number of wins is 4, by Filipino bowler Rafael “Paeng” Nepomuceno: 1976, 1980, 1992, and 1996.

# The University of San Carlos in Cebu City is Asia's oldest existing school. Built by the Italian & Spanish Jesuits on August 1595, the USC facade is an example of a traditional Italian Architecture.

# Filipino Eriberto N. Gonzales Jr. consumed 350 chilis in 3 minutes at the annual Magayon Festival chili-eating contest held at Penaranda Park, Legazpi, Albay on May 27, 1999, making it to the Guiness Book of World Records for the most chilis eaten.

# The longest possible eclipse of the Sun is 7 min. 31 sec. The longest eclipse in recent times took place west of the Philippines on June 20, 1995, lasting for 7 min. 8 sec.

# Camiguin province holds the distinction of having the most number of volcanoes per square kilometer than any other island on earth. It is also the only place in the Philippines which has more volcanoes (7) than towns (5).

# The 900 sq m Relief Map of Mindanao in Dapitan City was personally done by Dr. Jose Rizal. It was used as a device for teaching history and geography to townsfolk.

# The Zamboanga Golf Course and Beach Park was founded in 1910 by Gov. John Pershing. It is one of the oldest golf courses in the Philippines.

# Isabela City is the youngest city in the region. It was only on March 5, 2001 that the Municipality of Isabela, Province of Basilan was converted into a component city Through RA 9023. On April 25, 2001, Isabeleños ratified the new status of Isabela.

# The Kinabayo is an exotic and colorful pageant re-enacting the Spanish-Moorish Wars, particularly the Battle of Covadonga where the Spanish forces under General Pelagio took their last stand against the Saracens. They were able to reverse the tide of war with the miraculous apparition of St. James, the Apostle. A Kinabayo Festival is celebrated every July in Dapitan City, attracting thousands of tourists to the city.

# The altar at the Holy Rosary Cathedral in Dipolog City was designed by Dr. Jose Rizal. The Cathedral was erected by the Spanish friars sometime in 1895, before Dipolog City became a municipality.

# The Rizal Shrine in Dapitan City is the original estate of Dr. Jose Rizal which he acquired by purchase during his exile in Dapitan from 1892 to 1896.

# RA 8973 signed by then President Joseph E. Estrada in February 2001 created the province of Zamboanga Sibugay. A total of sixteen municipalities compose this newest province in the Zamboanga Peninsula.

# Magat Dam is Asia’s biggest dam project at the time of its construction. It serves the primary function of power generation and irrigation.


# The Cagayan River or Rio Grande de Cagayan is the Philippines’ mightiest watercourse – the longest and widest river in the country. Small streams originating form Balete Pass, Cordillera, Caraballo and Sierra Madre Mountains meet other streams and rivers and flow to the Cagayan River.

# Magapit Suspension Bridge is the first of its kind in Asia. It spans the Cagayan River at Lallo and is 0.76 kilometers long. The hanging bridge links the first and second districts of Cagayan going towards the Ilocos Region via the scenic Patapat Road on the Ilocos Norte-Cagayan Inter-Provincial national highway.

# Angono Petroglyphs – This cultural heritage site dates back to circa 3000 B.C. and is the most ancient Filipino, or more aptly, prehistoric Filipino work of art. Besides being the country’s oldest “work of art” it also offers us an evocative glimpse into the life of our ancestors. The site has been included in the World Inventory of Rock Art under the auspices of UNESCO, ICCROM and ICOMOS and nominated as one of the “100 Most Endangered Sites of the World.

# PANCIT HABHAB (Lucban)-Made from rice flour, these local noodles acquired its name and developed its unique attraction by the way it is eaten. Otherwise known as Pancit Lucban, these noodles are hawked in the streets and served on a piece of banana leaf, sans fork or any other utensils. Thus, it is eaten straight from the leaf, licking permitted... "habhab"-style.

# Tagala - the Philippines first Filipino-Spanish dictionary which was printed in 1613, 25 years older than the first book printed in the United States.

# Mayon is the most beautiful mountain I have ever seen, the world-renowned Fujiyama (Mt. Fuji) of Japan sinking into perfect insignificance by comparison. British traveler-writer A. Henry Savage Landor

# Ilo-Ilo golf and country club is the oldest golf club in the Philippines. It was built at 1908 by Irish Engineers.

# Limasawa Island – where Ferdinand Magellan first landed in the Philippines which give way to the discovery of the Philippines and where the first mass was celebrated.

# San Juanico Strait - said to be the narrowest yet the most navigable strait in the world

# Calbiga Cave – The Philippines’ biggest karst formations and one of the largest in Asia, the 2,968-hectare cave system is composed of 12 caves with wide underground spaces, unique rock formations and sub-terranean watercourse.

# At the Immaculate Conception Cathedral can be found the only existing pipe organ in Mindanao. The 2nd largest pipe organ in the Phiippines. The huge instrument took 2 years to built and was brought over by sea from Germany in 23 crates.

# Cagayan de Oro City - “The City of Golden Friendship,” known for its warm people and old-fashioned hospitality

# Mt. Apo, the Philippines highest mountain at 10,311 feet above sea level, and considered as the “Grand-father of all Philippine Mountains”

# Lake Lanao is the second largest lake in the Philippines, probably the deepest in the country and is considered one of the major tropical lakes in Southeastern Asia. The lake is home of endemic cryprinids, the species found only in the lake and nowhere else in the world.

# Halo-Halo! Halo-halo literally means, "mix-mix". And its is just that: a mixture of sweetened fruits and beans, lavished with pinipig (crisp flattened rice flakes), sugar and milk, topped by crushed ice and ice cream. You know its summertime when halo-halo stand start sprouting by the roadside and by the beach, all whipping up their heavenly concoctions of such a refreshingly divine dessert. You can make your own by selecting and mixing your ingredients to make a perfect Halo-Halo. Halo-Halo is uniquely, unforgettably Filipino!

# KALESA - The kalesa or karitela is a horse-driven carriage that was introduced during the 18th century. It was used by Spanish officials and the nobles as a means of transportation. The Ilustrados, the rich Filipinos who had their own businesses, used the kalesa not only for traveling but as a means a means of transporting their goods as well.

# BAKYA-Made primarily of lightwood (laniti and santol trees), it is sculpted with a slope and shaved to a smooth finish, then painted with floral designs or varnished to a high sheen. The upper portions, which are made of rubber or transparent plastic, are fastened to the sides by thumb nails called "clavitos". The bakya industry prospered during the 1930s when the Filipinos began exporting these to the other countries.

# SORBETES-This sweet treat was concocted in the early 1920's, a time where a single centavo could buy you almost anything. The process of this ice cream making and selling it in carts with colorful designs is still the same. Back in the old days, these ice cream dealers bred their own cows and milked them with their own hands to ensure the freshness and sanitation of the milk needed to make the "dirty ice cream".

# Waling Waling Orchids - With some 800 to 1,000 species of orchids, the Philippines has one of the richest orchid floras in the world. Philippine orchids come in an amazing array of shapes, sizes and colors. Most grow only in old-growth forest, often on branches of huge trees dozens of meters above the forest floor.

# Maria Teresa Calderon – A Filipina World champion speed reader as listed in the Guinness Book of World Records

# In the Philippines, Filipinos were introduced to the English language in 1762 by British invaders, not Americans. Philippines is the world's 3rd largest English-speaking nation, next to the USA and the UK.

# The Philippine Basketball Association is Asia's premier and the world's second oldest professional league.

# Philippine Airlines took to the skies on March 15, 1941, using a Beech Model 18 aircraft amid the specter of a global war. It became Asia's first airline.

# The world's largest pearl was discovered by a Filipino diver in a giant Tridacna (mollusk) under the Palawan Sea in 1934. Known as the "Pearl of Lao-Tzu", the gem weighs 14 pounds and measures 9 1/2 inches long and 5 1/2 inches in diameter. As of May 1984, it was valued at US$42 million. It is believed to be 600 years old.

# Alto Broadcasting System (ABS) Channel 3, the first television station in the country, went on the air in 1953.

# The world's second deepest spot underwater is in the Philippines. This spot, about 34,440 feet (10,497 meters) below the sea level, is known as the Philippine Deep or the Mindanao Trench. The Philippine Deep is in the floor of the Philippine Sea. The German ship Emden first plumbed the trench in 1927.

# The symbolic name for the Philippines, Juan dela Cruz, is not a Filipino invention? It was coined by R. McCulloch-Dick, a Scottish-born journalist working for the Manila Times in the early 1900s, after discovering it was the most common name in blotters.

# Lipa City in Batangas is dubbed as the “Rome of the Philippines” because of the number of seminaries, convents, monasteries, retreat houses, and a famous cathedral located in it.

# Compostela Valley is known to be laden with gold, thus earning the monicker “Golden Valley of Mindanao”

# Basilica of St. Martin de Tours in Taal, Batangas built by Augustinian Missionaries in 1572, is reputed to be the biggest catholic church in East Asia. It is so huge that it can house another big church

# Kibungan is known as the “Switzerland of Bengued” because of the frost during the cold months

# The Delmonte Pineapple Plantation in Bukidnon is considered to be the biggest in the far east

# Both Tridacna gigas, one of the world's largest shells, and Pisidum, the world's tiniest shell, can be found under Philippine waters. Tridacna gigas grows as large as one meter in length and weighs 600 pounds while Pisidum is less than 1 millimeter long. A shell called glory of the sea (Connus gloriamaris) is also found in the Philippines and considered as one of the most expensive shells in the world.

# Seahorses are small saltwater fish belonging to the Syngnathidae family (order Gasterosteiformes), which also includes pipefish and sea dragons. Most seahorse species, probably the most peculiar creatures in the water, live in the Coral Triangle. There are at least 50 known seahorse species in the world. They inhabit temperate and tropical waters but most of them are concentrated in the warm coastal waters of the Philippines.

# Donsol, a fishing town in Sorsogon province, serves as a sanctuary to a group of 40 whale sharks (Rhincodon typus), which are considered as the largest fish in the world. Locally known as "butanding", whale sharks visit the waters of Donsol from November to May. They travel across the oceans but nowhere else have they been sighted in a larger group than in the waters of Sorsogon. They measure between 18 to 35 feet in length and weigh about 20 tons.

# The Philippines is home to some of the world's most exotic birds.
One of the most endangered species is the exotic Kalangay or the Philippine cockatoo (Cacatua haematuropygia), which belongs to Psittacidae or the family of parrots. Some cockatoos can live up to 50 years. They are known for mimicking human voices. Most of them measure 33 centimeters in length and weigh 0.29 kilogram.

# Palawan bearcat is neither a bear nor a cat. Known in Southeast Asia as binturong, the bearcat is a species of its own, with population in the forests of Palawan, Borneo, Burma and Vietnam. It belongs to the family of Viverridae (civets). The Palawan bearcat has a long body and a pointed face leading to the nose. Its head and body measure 61 to 96 centimeters in combined length while its tail is almost as long. It weighs 9 to 14 kilograms and lives up to 20 years.

# Calamian Deer - Calamian Islands, north of Palawan province, keep a species of deer that cannot be found elsewhere. Scientists referred to the hog deer in the islands as Calamian deer in order to distinguish them from other hog deer in the world. An ordinary Calamian deer measures 105 to 115 centimeters in length and 60 to 65 centimeters high at the shoulder and weighs about 36 to 50 kilograms. It is said to have longer and darker legs, compared with other hog deer.


# World's Smallest Hoofed Mammal - South of Palawan, lies the Balabac Island, home of the world's smallest hoofed mammal - the Philippine mouse deer. Locally known as Pilandok (Tragalus nigricans), this ruminant stands only about 40 centimeters at the shoulder level.

# Flying Lemur - One of the most distinct creatures on Earth lives in the Philippines. It doesn't have wings but it can glide across 100 meters of space in a single leap. Like the lemurs of Asia, it moves around at night. Its head resembles that of a dog while its body has similarities with the flying squirrel of Canada.
In Mindanao, people call it "kagwang". Around the world, it is known as colugo or the flying lemur.

# Did you know that the first four cities of Metropolitan Manila are: Manila, Quezon, Pasay and Caloocan

# The flagpole located in Rizal Park, is where the starts of 0 kilometer reading in measuring all distances from Manila.

# Quezon City is the second biggest city in the Philippines.

# The Bonifacio Monument in Monumento, Caloocan City was designed by a noted Filipino sculptor Guillermo Tolentino

# In 1916, in the Philippines, an offensive style of passing the ball in a high trajectory to be struck by another player (the set and spike) were introduced. The Filipinos developed the "bomba" or kill, and called the hitter a "bomberino". (source: http://volleyball.org/history.html)

# The longest possible eclipse of the Sun is 7 min. 31 sec. The longest eclipse in recent times took place west of the Philippines on June 20, 1995, lasting for 7 min. 8 sec.



Its 1955 and not 1995

# Filipino bowler Rafael "Paeng" Nepomuceno was the first bowler to be elevated to the International Bowling Hall of Fame based in St. Louis, Missouri, USA. The Philippine Congress has named him “Greatest Filipino Athlete of All Time.”

Since Manny Pacquiao is now making waves around the world, what should Congress award him?

# The world’s shortest and lightest freshwater fish is the dwarf pygmy goby (Pandaka Pygmaea), a colorless and nearly transparent species found in the streams and lakes of Luzon. Males have an average length of 8.7 mm. and weigh 4-5 mg.

It is only found in Lake Buhi in CamSur.

# The University of San Carlos in Cebu City is Asia's oldest existing school. Built by the Italian & Spanish Jesuits on August 1595, the USC facade is an example of a traditional Italian Architecture.

In connection to this, the Universidad de Sta Isabel in Naga City, named after Queen Isabel of Spain and sister school of Santa Isabel College on Taft, Manila, is Far East's first normal school for women. Its former name is Colegio de Santa Isabel.

# San Juanico Strait - said to be the narrowest yet the most navigable strait in the world

What a contrasting trivia. :nuts: :D

# Quezon City is the second biggest city in the Philippines.

In terms of what? If land area, Puerto Princesa is there. If population, it is the largest.

University of the Philippines - Los Banos, Laguna 22,000 hectares

University of the Philippines - Iloilo City, Iloilo 1,200 hectares

Visayas State University - Baybay City, Leyte 1,099 hectares

^^^^ ANG LALAKI NAMAN TALAGA!!!!!! lol

..........but nung pumunta akong UP-iloilo... parang hindi naman 1,200 hectars, ung UPLB, parang isang city na ah... ung VSU ive never been there pero ung sa pic? parang nasa korea... lol ... according to wikipedia... standing on the plains and hillsides facing the sea... ganda! may nautical ba ung VSU? kasi may dagat sila eh...

UPLB is so vast due to its jurisdiction over Mt Makiling. The Boy Scouts of the Philippines used to claim jurisdiction over these lands but UPLB won the rights.

Trivia:

UPLB's original campus is called the "Lower Campus" since it sits at the foot of Mt Makiling, while UPLB's lands on Mt Makiling is called the "Upper Campus." Most of the agricultural courses are taken at the Upper Campus.

^ source is the Department of Tourism website... i think its dot.gov.ph

American Roy C Farrell and Australian Sydney H de Kantzow founded Cathay Pacific Airways in Hong Kong on 24 September, 1946. Initially based in Shanghai, the two men eventually moved to Hong Kong and founded Cathay Pacific Airways. Legend has it that Farrell and a group of foreign correspondents thought up the airline's unique name in the bar at the Manila Hotel. :colgate:







SOURCE (http://www.cathaypacific.com/cpa/en_INTL/aboutus/cxbackground/history)

What a contrasting trivia. :nuts: :D


baka "narrowest navigable strait" at hinde most navigable :lol:

^^ Maybe. English nga naman, oo. :lol:

November 17, 2009 23:26:00
Michael Tan opinion@inquirer.com.ph
Philippine Daily Inquirer (http://politics.inquirer.net/view.php?db=1&article=20091117-236884)

LAST FRIDAY, I described the long road to suffrage, both globally and locally. In that column, I emphasized how the right to vote had to be fought for, in many different contexts.

In the Philippines, this right to vote had to evolve, from the time of the Katipunan and the First Filipino Republic, aborted by the American occupation when the right was “granted” provided you were male, at least 23, owned property, paid taxes, spoke and wrote English or Spanish and swore allegiance to the United States. I didn’t mention that during the Marcos era, voting was an obligation—you could be prosecuted for not voting. Today, as long as you’re at least 18 and more or less of sound mind, you can vote.

Reflecting on our own situation, I realize that it has become more important to talk about the rights, rather than the right, to vote. I’m referring to the many social, economic and political rights that need to be ensured if the right to vote is to be meaningful.

Last week I mentioned that there has always been ambivalence about suffrage. I mentioned Plato, who did not trust ordinary citizens to decide on who should lead. Winston Churchill, a firm believer in democracy, also observed, “The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.”

Certainly, if you look even at so-called developed democracies like the United States, you wonder about the wisdom of suffrage with their share of political dynasties (Bush the Father and Bush the Son being the most recent) and celebrity presidents and governors.

In the Philippines, the upper classes endlessly complain about our elections being marred by guns, goons, gold and glitter, and tend to blame this situation on the poor, who are characterized as timid, corrupt, gullible. But that kind of analysis is not only condescending, it also fails to recognize a social and historical context to our current situation.

The right to vote is shaped by society and culture, with all its baggage from the past. For many years after the United States was founded, slaves and women could not vote. When the Americans took over the Philippines and extended suffrage to its new colony, they were still carrying their elitist (and sexist) notions about voting, as I described at the beginning of this article. By setting all those conditions on voting, the Americans actually strengthened feudalism in the Philippines because it was mainly the cacique, the landlord class, that could vote.

The guns, goons and gold are part of that feudalism. There are still many parts of the country where people have no choice but to vote for the most powerful landlord-turned-warlord in town. To dare to defy that landlord is to court the wrath of that landlord family. Working in development, I have seen entire barangays neglected—no school supplies, no roads, no midwives or medicines for the health center—for three, six or nine years simply because they didn’t vote for the mayor (or the mayor’s relatives) during the last election.

Fortunately, that kind of perverse control is diminishing, albeit all too slowly. We should, however, be concerned about how the feudal imprint takes other forms of distortions in our elections. Foremost, we continue to look at elections not as an occasion to select leaders but to choose patrons. I am using the Spanish form of patron with a stronger emphasis on “patronizing” relationships, i.e., a person who may seem benevolent but actually controls you, and keeps you in a dependency relationship.

It’s a very feudal concept, exactly like the relationship between a tenant and the landlord except that in politics, it has many expanded functions. To be known as a “bata” of the governor, mayor or even barangay captain (notice how a person is reduced to the status of a child) means special access for your needs. Elections then become a way for a potential bata to prove his mettle as, and I apologize to dog-lovers, an obedient lapdog, from running the campaign trail to delivering the votes by hook or by crook.

Fiestas, transactions

It is also this feudal background that transforms our elections into grand fiestas. It is a time for entertainment, courtesy of the politicians. (We forget, of course, that the expenses are actually drawn from taxpayers’ money, or for candidates who haven’t won yet, money that they will eventually collect from us if they win.)

The politicians don’t just bring in celebrities to perform but will themselves go through the song-and-dance routines. The bombastic speeches, the mud-slinging, are all often more for show, generating more heat than light. It reduces elections to personalities, with awards for best performers (or at least with best performing celebrity guests).

Again , I must warn against attributing all this to gullibility or naivete on the part of our voters (read “the poor”). Precisely because we are so feudal, the poor and the usually powerless have had to learn to navigate around our structures. Elections actually open windows of opportunity for negotiations. A book published several years ago, “De Scribing Elections” (the title is intentional, to highlight the way it de-scribes elections) showed how voters learn to time their demands around elections, to ask for roads, social services (and I’ve found out, even basketball courts).

Unfortunately, much of this negotiation can reinforce the feudal aspect of elections, or what’s sometimes referred to as transactional politics. Worse, it might actually allow the more deceptive politicians to thrive, the ones who know how to time their benevolence around elections, throwing crumbs to the masses but making sure there’s adequate coverage by the press, and putting out announcements and posters with their photographs (get the picture?).

When I talked about Philippine elections last week with the Museum Foundation of the Philippines, I actually ended by saying I was still optimistic. I do worry though that our attempts to reform the system, with its emphasis on educating the poor, actually draws from our feudal mind-set, the idea that we the ilustrado (the enlightened) must convince the poor not to sell their votes or to guard their votes. If we are serious about the right to vote, then we all have to work harder at ensuring that other rights are in place so Filipinos can vote without fear, without having to think of trade-offs and pay-offs.

At the Museum Foundation talk, I went into the need to evolve a system that holds politicians accountable, not for rhetorical promises but for programs and principles, from the day they are sworn into office. As we move into election season, I will write more about how we might build this system.

ROSES & THORNS By Alejandro R. Roces (The Philippine Star) Updated November 17, 2009 12:00 AM (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=524050&publicationSubCategoryId=64)

For better or worse (health wise and economically-speaking somewhat), the Philippines has had a long affair with the tobacco plant. Today, the negative health effects of tobacco and cigarette smoking are well understood; so we hope that the affair is finally coming to an end. Beyond personal health, cigarettes pose a public health and garbage problem. Each day we lose count of how many people we see tossing their cigarettes on the streets and sidewalks: out of car windows, over their shoulder and right in front of other people. People would never indiscriminately litter in their own homes, but almost feel compelled to in public spaces. A health risk is also posed by second hand smoke.

According to the Mayo Clinic’s website (www.mayoclinic.com), “…second hand smoke contain harmful chemicals - and a lot of them. Tobacco smoke contains more than 4,000 chemical compounds, more than 250 of which are toxic. And more than 50 of the chemicals in cigarette smoke are known or suspected to cause cancer. Included in secondhand smoke are: Formaldehyde, Arsenic, Cadmium, Benzene, Polonium.” It is well known, and has been for decades, that secondhand smoke can cause a greater risk of heart disease, cancer and lung disease. According to the United States Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) secondhand smoke is a Class A carcinogen and causes cancer in humans.

Our historical relationship with tobacco began in the late 1500s; it was one of the first plants exported to our shores by the Spanish empire. The goal was to turn the Philippines into a tobacco producing nation. The tobacco plant had a special affinity for our soil and took root quickly. Among the native population smoking tobacco quickly became a status symbol; in emulation of the Spanish ‘elites’. According to Edilberto J. de Jesus: “the plant enjoyed the prestige of having been imported by the colonial ruling class — it became fashionable among the status-conscious natives ‘to drink, smoke’ according to the custom of the conquerors”. We wonder if this attitude may play into our continuing cigarette consumption?

In the 18th century, the Spanish government imposed a government monopoly on tobacco. This was proposed by Leandro de Viana in 1765 and accomplished in 1780 by Governor-General Jose Basco y Vargas (who was an economically forward thinking governor-general). The result was, instead of being a ‘financial drain’ on the crown, the colony was self-sustaining and even profit-making. S.V. Epistola would write: “The government collected all authorized imposts, taxes and fees. For the first time in a hundred years the government was solvent.” According to Dr. Benito Legarda in his book, After the Galleons there was an unexpected side-effect of the enforcement of tobacco (and other agricultural products) monopoly: “An indirect effect was the beginning of the agricultural specialization, since the tobacco-growing regions could no longer grow their own food but had to import it from elsewhere in the country.” As we just witnessed with the recent calamities, we do need to diversify our food and agricultural production around the country. Our penchant for regional agriculture specialization is a 300-year-old archaic hold-over.

Each year approximately 90,000 people die from smoking related illness: this is more than deaths from natural calamities and conflicts. Surveys in terms of tobacco use among youth in the Philippines indicate that smoking is on the rise. The government has passed the Tobacco Control Act in 2003, but more needs to be done.

What we recommend are developing targeted publicity and anti-smoking campaigns focusing on the youth. The goal should be to educate people on the dangers of smoking. In the Philippines, we have not seen such a high-profile campaign mounted. The rising number of youths smoking demonstrates that the health risks of smoking are not being effectively taught. Youth-oriented campaigns have proven effective in other countries and should be emulated here. The benefits of reducing smoking in the Philippines will be found in public health, garbage and even beautifying our cities and streets.

Kris Alingod - AHN Contributor (http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7017101949)

Manila, Philippines (AHN) - The Philippine House of Representatives has approved a bill declaring the martial art of arnis, a form of stick fighting, the national sport. The measure has moved to the Senate where it is expected to pass.

H. B. 6516 would add to the four official national symbols, none of which, contrary to popular belief, include a national sport or national hero. Sipa, a traditional sport similar to sepak takraw that involves kicking a rattan football, has been called the official sport of the nation despite no law declaring it so.

Apart from the national anthem, flag, official seal, coat-of-arms, and motto prescribed by the Flag and Heraldic Code of the Philippines, the nation only has four other official symbols: the sampaguita as the national flower, the nara as the national tree, the Philippine Eagle as the national bird and the Philippine Pearl as the national gem.

And while Jose Rizal is listed in a number of reference materials and even taught in some schools as the national hero, there is in fact no law or proclamation declaring anyone as such, according to the National Commission for Culture and the Arts.

The legislation declaring arnis the national sport would bring recognition to an increasingly popular pastime that was also used by Filipinos to fight invaders during the pre-Spanish period. If enacted, the measure would be promulgated by inscribing the symbol of arnis into the seal of the Philippine Sports Commission.

"There has long been a collective sentiment to put Arnis in its rightful historical place in the country," Rep. Pryde Henry Teves, a co-author of the bill, said in a statement.

^^i think its a good proposal..Arnis is the only internationally recognized sports which is in genuine to the Philippines. Sipa is akin to Sepak Takraw, and probably just a copycat of the sports played by Indonesians and Malays.

By CYRIL DE LEON
December 8, 2009, 4:47pm (http://www.mb.com.ph/articles/233085/christmas-isn-t-christmas-without-nativity-scene)

The Philippine parol may well be the most “iconic” symbol of Christmas for Filipinos but the “Belen” (crèche or Nativity Scene) probably runs a close second. This is understandable of course, considering the Roman Catholic Faith of most Filipinos. The Spanish equivalent of Bethlehem, the Belen remains a potent tool for teaching the Catholic faith.

It is often mentioned that the Nativity Scene was first re-created by St. Francis of Asisi way back in 1223 though it had one major difference. Instead of the static tableau of sculptures and figurines, the crèche of St. Francis was re-created with live humans standing-in for St. Joseph, the Blessed Virgin Mary and the Holy Infant. It was said that live animals were also used in the setting which no doubt added an element of fun to an austere scene.

For sure, there was an element of novelty to this first Belen. After all, any scene with docile farm animals will surely bring out the inquisitiveness of children and adults—we are all usiseros, after all. Nonetheless, it was clearly apparent that St. Francis’ intention was more than just re-creating the birth of Jesus in the manger, but rather his desire to focus the attention of the laity on the true meaning of Christmas. Then as now, the desire for gift-giving and merry-making has blurred somewhat the celebration of this Christian holiday and the Belen, as “simple” as it was, proved to be a an effective means of reminding holiday revelers of what Christmas is all about.

No doubt, the first re-created Nativity Scene proved to be quite a success and not surprisingly, captured the world’s fancy. Nativity Scenes, this time carved in wood or fashioned from painted terra cott, flourished in countries with a Christian background. However, secular themes eventually seeped into the simple set-up of the Belen with human characters providing humor and social commentary added from time to time. Examples of this would be the santons of France which showed everyday characters like fishmongers and vegetable vendors mingling about the Nativity Scene; or the stock Spanish characters that literally showed toilet humor.

Anyway, no one knows the exact date when the first Belen in the country was first put up. For sure though, the Spanish friars were already cognizant of the Belen’s potency as a means of instruction vis-à-vis the Catholic faith. It also helped that the country has a tradition of woodcarving and an unusual affinity and love for representations of the Holy Infant as exemplified by our devotion to the Sto. Niño.

Although intact representations of the Belens dating from the Spanish-era are very rare, enough examples showed that Filipinos spared no expense as Belen owners asked the best wood and ivory carvers to create images that are now considered works of art.

One can even assume that perhaps, given the distance of the Philippine colony then to the Western world, unusual leniency were given to the creators of these early Belens in terms of materials use.

Such a case can be made if we consider the religious artworks they made then which they covered with viriñas or semi-spherical glass covers. These artworks made use of a number of local raw materials ranging from the exotic to the conventional. They were also refreshingly tolerant when it came to the interpretations or poses assumed by the figurines.

However, it was probably during the American period when the Belen gained even more popularity and currency. Mass communication, mass production and an introduction to technological innovation made the Belen popular with paper cut-outs and pop-up Belens available for display in even the humblest homes. Incidentally, this type of Belen still survives to this day—proof of how prevalent the custom of displaying a Belen in every home has become.

The custom of commissioning expensive recreations of the Belen also survived with corporate buildings often vying with one another in displaying sometimes life-size images of the Nativity. Often exhibited along with extravagant lighting and even a profusion of parols, these corporate examples of the humble Belen have become attractions in their own right.

Nonetheless, among all these corporate-sponsored Belens, only one probably dominates Philippine pop culture the most—the COD Belen, or more appropriately the defunct-COD Department Store Christmas Display. Not because it was the most spectacular, but because during its heyday, it managed to combine the essence of tradition and innovation and infused it with secular themes that to this day resonates with the Filipino public.

Indeed, this Belen has left such an indelible mark on the Filipino psyche that even if it was dismantled and re-assembled in another mall, Filipinos still call it by its original name. It also proved to be very influential as towns and cities all over the country had clones of it made.

To be fair the newer animated displays are more technologically up-to-date with animatronic technology years ahead of the original COD Belen.

Nonetheless, the latter remains unique and heartwarmingly-Pinoy as evident in its surprisingly effective combination at one time, of a barrio fiesta theme with the Nativity as its centerpiece. Certainly, one only wonders what the Three Kings might have thought of the Pinoy kid, clumsily climbing the bamboo pole in a game of palo sebo.

At present, one can safely say that although not apparent, the Filipino version of the Belen is perhaps even healthier or more popular than our love for the parol. This is because we have been actually exporting it abroad for some time now, in forms other than the traditional life-like interpretations of it. Examples of this include the dreamy and romantic Belens made of hand-made paper and even modernistic Belens in wood or resin that are then covered with a resin veneer and/or acid-treated capiz shell covering.

Certainly, when the Filipino Belen finds itself halfway around the globe underneath a Christmas Tree in the United States, we have already concluded the cycle that brought this Christmas symbol to our tropical shores in the first place.

"The Philippine House of Representatives has approved a bill declaring the martial art of arnis, a form of stick fighting, the national sport. The measure has moved to the Senate where it is expected to pass."

This is useless endeavour if it's not taught in our school. Very few people knows arnis. I am glad chess is now being included in the school activities. And hope arnis too. These would be good combination, brain and physique.

"Cebu is the oldest Philippine city."

The term city should further be defined. If it's an organized township then somewhere out there in the southwest of the Philippines may have that attribute much, much earlier.

http://images.inquirer.net/media/globalnation/articles/images/pic-12160208030199.jpg

MANILA, Philippines (http://globalnation.inquirer.net/news/breakingnews/view/20091216-242334/New-Philippines-in-Cuba) — Cuba and the Philippines share more than a common colonial past: The third largest province in Cuba, Pinar Del Rio was formerly called Nueva Filipinas (New Philippines) in the mid-18th century.

The area evidently became known as Nueva Filipinas as a result of the influx of Asians—Chinese, Japanese, Filipinos and other Asians—who came to work in the region's extensive tobacco fields, according to the Philippine embassy in Havana.

Philippine Ambassador to Cuba MacArthur Corsino led the Philippine delegation that visited the province on December 11 to 12 to strengthen the historical and cultural ties between the two countries. The delegation, which included Mrs. Bernadette C. Corsino, Vice Consul Jason J. Anasarias, and Mrs. Asteria D. Aguilloso, was welcomed by acting president Jesus Rafael Fernandez Echevarri of the Provincial Asssembly of Popular Power of Pinar del Rio province. City historian Juan Carlos Rodriguez Alfonso and provincial firector for international relations Juan Palados Menendez also led lectures on the province.

From the lectures, it was learned that Filipino and other Asian workers reached Cuba sailing in the Manila-Acapulco galleons that crossed the Pacific Ocean regularly from the late 16th century until 1815.

Manila was the jump-off point for all Spanish trade coming from East Asia, while Havana was the take-off point for Spanish trading ships sailing from Latin America to Spain.

Most of the Asians who landed in Cuba went on to work in Nueva Filipinas. They were generally called “Chinos Manila," as Manila was very famous among the Cuban population at that time.

Later in the 19th century, Nueva Filipinas was gradually supplanted with its present name, after a new capital of the same name overshadowed the former Nueva Filipinas capital of Guane.

The delegation was also given a tour of the Pinar del Rio provincial museum, the city museum of natural history, the Trinidad cigar factory, and the city cathedral. The Filipinos also visited the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization (Unesco) bio-heritage site of Vinales, where the town historian Ricardo Alvarez Perez acted as their guide.

Kris Alingod - AHN Contributor (http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7017101949)

Manila, Philippines (AHN) - The Philippine House of Representatives has approved a bill declaring the martial art of arnis, a form of stick fighting, the national sport. The measure has moved to the Senate where it is expected to pass.

H. B. 6516 would add to the four official national symbols, none of which, contrary to popular belief, include a national sport or national hero. Sipa, a traditional sport similar to sepak takraw that involves kicking a rattan football, has been called the official sport of the nation despite no law declaring it so.

Apart from the national anthem, flag, official seal, coat-of-arms, and motto prescribed by the Flag and Heraldic Code of the Philippines, the nation only has four other official symbols: the sampaguita as the national flower, the nara as the national tree, the Philippine Eagle as the national bird and the Philippine Pearl as the national gem.

And while Jose Rizal is listed in a number of reference materials and even taught in some schools as the national hero, there is in fact no law or proclamation declaring anyone as such, according to the National Commission for Culture and the Arts.

The legislation declaring arnis the national sport would bring recognition to an increasingly popular pastime that was also used by Filipinos to fight invaders during the pre-Spanish period. If enacted, the measure would be promulgated by inscribing the symbol of arnis into the seal of the Philippine Sports Commission.

"There has long been a collective sentiment to put Arnis in its rightful historical place in the country," Rep. Pryde Henry Teves, a co-author of the bill, said in a statement.

ay naku dapat madaliin to at sana dati pa ito ginawa no..para naman ma include na ito as official sport sa SEA Games para naman meron tayong sport contribution para sa meet na yun.. kasi halos lahat ng member countries sa SEA Games ay may kanya kanyang sport dun so ang arnis e wala pa..

one morething.. na excite ako nung nakita ko ang arnis sa MI:3 ni tom cruise..

^^ Arnis was also used by Matt Damon in the movie "Bourne Ultimatum," the third installment to the Jason Bourne series.

really? never got the chance to watch the 3rd installment.. makabili nga ng dvd..

http://images.inquirer.net/media/globalnation/articles/images/pic-12160208030199.jpg

MANILA, Philippines (http://globalnation.inquirer.net/news/breakingnews/view/20091216-242334/New-Philippines-in-Cuba) — Cuba and the Philippines share more than a common colonial past: The third largest province in Cuba, Pinar Del Rio was formerly called Nueva Filipinas (New Philippines) in the mid-18th century.

The area evidently became known as Nueva Filipinas as a result of the influx of Asians—Chinese, Japanese, Filipinos and other Asians—who came to work in the region's extensive tobacco fields, according to the Philippine embassy in Havana.

Philippine Ambassador to Cuba MacArthur Corsino led the Philippine delegation that visited the province on December 11 to 12 to strengthen the historical and cultural ties between the two countries. The delegation, which included Mrs. Bernadette C. Corsino, Vice Consul Jason J. Anasarias, and Mrs. Asteria D. Aguilloso, was welcomed by acting president Jesus Rafael Fernandez Echevarri of the Provincial Asssembly of Popular Power of Pinar del Rio province. City historian Juan Carlos Rodriguez Alfonso and provincial firector for international relations Juan Palados Menendez also led lectures on the province.

From the lectures, it was learned that Filipino and other Asian workers reached Cuba sailing in the Manila-Acapulco galleons that crossed the Pacific Ocean regularly from the late 16th century until 1815.

Manila was the jump-off point for all Spanish trade coming from East Asia, while Havana was the take-off point for Spanish trading ships sailing from Latin America to Spain.

Most of the Asians who landed in Cuba went on to work in Nueva Filipinas. They were generally called “Chinos Manila," as Manila was very famous among the Cuban population at that time.

Later in the 19th century, Nueva Filipinas was gradually supplanted with its present name, after a new capital of the same name overshadowed the former Nueva Filipinas capital of Guane.

The delegation was also given a tour of the Pinar del Rio provincial museum, the city museum of natural history, the Trinidad cigar factory, and the city cathedral. The Filipinos also visited the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization (Unesco) bio-heritage site of Vinales, where the town historian Ricardo Alvarez Perez acted as their guide.

^^very informative...

I like the quiz...got 77 out of a 100.

i like the quiz too but i only got 40 out of 100. :)

^^what quiz ba yan?

^^ :)

Wala lang. Gusto ko lang subukan ang talino ninyo.

Paki-laro ang quiz na ito: http://www.sporcle.com/games/yeontura/20philippines
Ganito yon: N cities/municipalities ang kailangan ninyong i-identify. Pagkatapos po noon, paki-discuss yung quiz natin dito sa thread na ito. Walang spoilers. Deal? Kung hindi, paki-lock na lang.

^^ :)

its a no brainer quiz. walang ka relevance or significance ang game na ito except that its a guessing game. its not even worth a social studies question. ask your teachers, professors or the prc boards whats the rationale behind this idiotic game. the inventor of this coocoo game needs to take a class in tests and measurements sa college of education.

its a no brainer quiz. walang ka relevance or significance ang game na ito except that its a guessing game. its not even worth a social studies question. ask your teachers, professors or the prc boards whats the rationale behind this idiotic game. the inventor of this coocoo game needs to take a class in tests and measurements sa college of education.

:D kalingawan ra mana uy. lingaw lingaw ra mana. just take it as a guessing game. dont take the data too seriously. :)

^^ :)

^^i took the quiz....a stupid quiz...:lol::lol::lol:

i like the quiz too but i only got 40 out of 100. :)

maitry nga muna.....

i got 62 out of 100.....:lol::lol: nakakatense din....

:D enjoy din naman di ba? laro laro lang pero may natutunan naman kahit pano, at least ngayon may mga nakilala na akong mga lugar sa pinas na di ko pa kilala.

:D enjoy din naman di ba? laro laro lang pero may natutunan naman kahit pano, at least ngayon may mga nakilala na akong mga lugar sa pinas na di ko pa kilala.

yup and it's fun lalo na pag malapit ng maubos ang oras. natataranta na ang utak sa kaiisip kung ano pang mga towns/cities.:lol::lol:

http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs182.snc3/18939_1173698744346_1284380908_30400859_5603462_n.jpg

source:facebook

^^a street in Romania

The Commission just released the Annual Financial Report for Local Government Units for the 2008 Fiscal Year.

Top 30 Philippine Cities according to Income (in thousand pesos)

1. Quezon City (Metro Manila) – P9,042,876
2. Makati (Metro Manila) – P8,308,262
3. Manila (Metro Manila) – P6,309,862
4. Pasig (Metro Manila) – P4,377,611
5. Davao City – P3,279,863
6. Cebu City – P2,938,270
7. Caloocan (Metro Manila) – P2,682,815
8. Paranaque (Metro Manila) – P2,246,421
9. Pasay (Metro Manila) – P2,239,910
10. Taguig (Metro Manila) – P2,006,728
11. Zamboanga City – P2,004,040
12. Muntinlupa (Metro Manila) – P1,949,529
13. Mandaluyong (Metro Manila) – P1,888,315
14. Valenzuela( Metro Manila) – P1,571,950
15. Cagayan de Oro (Misamis Oriental) – P1,452,191
16. Marikina (Metro Manila) – P1,440,384
17. Las Piñas (Metro Manila) – P1,339,279
18. Calamba (Laguna) – P1,338,300
19. Batangas City (Batangas) – P1,335,253
20. Antipolo (Rizal) – P1,277,213
21. Iloilo City (Iloilo) – P1,162,912
22. Puerto Prinsesa (Palawan) – P1,158,317
23. Iligan (Lanao del Norte) – P1,081,773
24. General Santos (South Cotabato) – P1,075,419
25. Olongapo (Zambales) – P1,039,921
26. Bacolod (Negros Occidenal) – P961,734
27. San Juan (Metro Manila) – P913,502
28. Baguio (Benguet) – P907,130
29. Butuan (Agusan del Norte) – P879,633
30. Angeles (Pampanga) – P797,846


http://www.pueblophilippines.com/top-20-philippine-cities-by-income-in-2010

The current status of Chabacano in the Philippines

http://www.zamboanga.com/images/penn_state.gif

Zamboanga City and its environs that the Zamboangueño variety of Chabacano makes this the largest Spanish-derived creole speaking community in the world.

The mistaken notion among creolists (beginning with Whinnom 1956) that the largest Chabacano-speaking population, that of Zamboanga City, is small and moribund, when in fact it is a thriving first- and second-language speech community of perhaps half a million speakers. Frake (1971) was the first to provide more accurate information on Zamboangueño, but to this day many scholars in the Philippines and abroad are unaware of the true strength of the Zamboanga Chabacano community

:)

The Commission just released the Annual Financial Report for Local Government Units for the 2008 Fiscal Year.

Top 30 Philippine Cities according to Income (in thousand pesos)

1. Quezon City (Metro Manila) – P9,042,876
2. Makati (Metro Manila) – P8,308,262
3. Manila (Metro Manila) – P6,309,862
4. Pasig (Metro Manila) – P4,377,611
5. Davao City – P3,279,863
6. Cebu City – P2,938,270
7. Caloocan (Metro Manila) – P2,682,815
8. Paranaque (Metro Manila) – P2,246,421
9. Pasay (Metro Manila) – P2,239,910
10. Taguig (Metro Manila) – P2,006,728
11. Zamboanga City – P2,004,040
12. Muntinlupa (Metro Manila) – P1,949,529
13. Mandaluyong (Metro Manila) – P1,888,315
14. Valenzuela( Metro Manila) – P1,571,950
15. Cagayan de Oro (Misamis Oriental) – P1,452,191
16. Marikina (Metro Manila) – P1,440,384
17. Las Piñas (Metro Manila) – P1,339,279
18. Calamba (Laguna) – P1,338,300
19. Batangas City (Batangas) – P1,335,253
20. Antipolo (Rizal) – P1,277,213
21. Iloilo City (Iloilo) – P1,162,912
22. Puerto Prinsesa (Palawan) – P1,158,317
23. Iligan (Lanao del Norte) – P1,081,773
24. General Santos (South Cotabato) – P1,075,419
25. Olongapo (Zambales) – P1,039,921
26. Bacolod (Negros Occidenal) – P961,734
27. San Juan (Metro Manila) – P913,502
28. Baguio (Benguet) – P907,130
29. Butuan (Agusan del Norte) – P879,633
30. Angeles (Pampanga) – P797,846


http://www.pueblophilippines.com/top-20-philippine-cities-by-income-in-2010

^^ what happened to Valenzuela?

in 2007, Valenzuela's income was around P1.7B... bakit bumagsak sa P1.57B na lang?

edit: ok, i get i... mali yung data na nasa listahan... P1.5B lang ang income ng Valenzuela nuong 2007..

i referred to this thread:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=431926&page=14

^^ according to the 2007 CoA report ... Valenzuela's income was P1.503B

^^di pa kami kasali...:D

that list is not complete, some LGU's was not able to pass their datas

for cebu, here...

Cebu City reports income hike by P1.27B
January 28, 2010 12:02 am

CEBU CITY, Jan. 27 – Cebu City’s income rose from P2.23 billion in 2008 to P3.5 billion in 2009, an increase of P1.27 billion, City Treasurer Ofelia Oliva said.

HERE (http://balita.ph/2010/01/28/cebu-city-reports-income-hike-by-p1-27b/)

that list is not complete, some LGU's was not able to pass their datas

for cebu, here...

Cebu City reports income hike by P1.27B
January 28, 2010 12:02 am

CEBU CITY, Jan. 27 – Cebu City’s income rose from P2.23 billion in 2008 to P3.5 billion in 2009, an increase of P1.27 billion, City Treasurer Ofelia Oliva said.

HERE (http://balita.ph/2010/01/28/cebu-city-reports-income-hike-by-p1-27b/)

i think the report is for FY 2008...
but in the 2009.. Cebu can be well within the Top 5...

The Commission just released the Annual Financial Report for Local Government Units for the 2008 Fiscal Year.

Top 30 Philippine Cities according to Income (in thousand pesos)

1. Quezon City (Metro Manila) – P9,042,876
2. Makati (Metro Manila) – P8,308,262
3. Manila (Metro Manila) – P6,309,862
4. Pasig (Metro Manila) – P4,377,611
5. Davao City – P3,279,863
6. Cebu City – P2,938,270
7. Caloocan (Metro Manila) – P2,682,815
8. Paranaque (Metro Manila) – P2,246,421
9. Pasay (Metro Manila) – P2,239,910
10. Taguig (Metro Manila) – P2,006,728
11. Zamboanga City – P2,004,040
12. Muntinlupa (Metro Manila) – P1,949,529
13. Mandaluyong (Metro Manila) – P1,888,315
14. Valenzuela( Metro Manila) – P1,571,950
15. Cagayan de Oro (Misamis Oriental) – P1,452,191
16. Marikina (Metro Manila) – P1,440,384
17. Las Piñas (Metro Manila) – P1,339,279
18. Calamba (Laguna) – P1,338,300
19. Batangas City (Batangas) – P1,335,253
20. Antipolo (Rizal) – P1,277,213
21. Iloilo City (Iloilo) – P1,162,912
22. Puerto Prinsesa (Palawan) – P1,158,317
23. Iligan (Lanao del Norte) – P1,081,773
24. General Santos (South Cotabato) – P1,075,419
25. Olongapo (Zambales) – P1,039,921
26. Bacolod (Negros Occidenal) – P961,734
27. San Juan (Metro Manila) – P913,502
28. Baguio (Benguet) – P907,130
29. Butuan (Agusan del Norte) – P879,633
30. Angeles (Pampanga) – P797,846

http://www.pueblophilippines.com/top-20-philippine-cities-by-income-in-2010

Can we have the complete listing of cities? The link provided in the link above isn't working.

that list is not complete, some LGU's was not able to pass their datas

for cebu, here...

Cebu City reports income hike by P1.27B
January 28, 2010 12:02 am

CEBU CITY, Jan. 27 – Cebu City’s income rose from P2.23 billion in 2008 to P3.5 billion in 2009, an increase of P1.27 billion, City Treasurer Ofelia Oliva said.

HERE (http://balita.ph/2010/01/28/cebu-city-reports-income-hike-by-p1-27b/)

I guess, some other cities are also having some increase on their income. Which means, we are growing, economically... :cheers:

I guess, some other cities are also having some increase on their income. Which means, we are growing, economically... :cheers:
I was thinking...what was our GDP for 4thQ 2009?

I was thinking...what was our GDP for 4thQ 2009?

This will not answer your question, but just an FYI. Based on CIA website (https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/rp.html), GDP per capita for Philippines actually went down by a hundered bucks. In 2008, we were at USD3,400 and went down to USD3,300 in 2009.

This will not answer your question, but just an FYI. Based on CIA website (https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/rp.html), GDP per capita for Philippines actually went down by a hundered bucks. In 2008, we were at USD3,400 and went down to USD3,300 in 2009.
That's about almost P5k...

^^i wonder if the US led global recession has something to do with that...

That's about almost P5k...

That's because the Philippines produced more babies than the economy grew. If 2009 grew by .09 (2009 GDP growth) and the pop grew by 1.9 (birthrate), then whatever growth the country had is negated by the new babies. Per capita GDP is based on total living people at that time. Moral of the story is ?