IUS - biggest university on the Balkans - the pictures below show the smaller campus, the bigger one will be built on Marin Dvor District, where former Marsalka was.

Founded by the Foundation for the Development of Education, IUS was inaugurated in the academic year of 2004-2005. The university comprises the Faculty of Engineering and Natural Sciences, the Faculty of Business and Public Administration, and the Faculty of Arts and Social Sciences. IUS is open to students from all over the world, and the language of instruction and communication is English. Students without English proficiency will attend a one-year intensive English Language Program.

VISION

To become an internationally approved institution of higher education and research and a centre of excellence and quality through the shared efforts of the founders, academic and administrative staff, students and all stakeholders.

MISSION

To produce science, art, and technology and present it to the benefit of humanity; to educate free-thinking, participating, sharing, open-minded individuals who are open to change and improvement and who have the ability to transform knowledge into values for themselves and the community. IUS, with its identity as an international institution of education and research, will cooperate with universities in the region and in other countries to provide a peaceful and comfortable atmosphere of learning for students from a wide geography.
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The architecture is traditional bosnian (with oriental elements).

da znam za ovaj projekat, samo se izgleda prvi put spominje ovdje :D

ovaj gornji kampus se vec gradi tamo na putu prema hrasnici...

Ovaj kampus nema nikakve veze s onim sto ce se gradit na Marijin dvoru i ne mislim da mu treba odvojen thread cak nemamo nikakve slike o izgradnji.

Ovaj kampus nema nikakve veze s onim sto ce se gradit na Marijin dvoru i ne mislim da mu treba odvojen thread cak nemamo nikakve slike o izgradnji.

slazem se sa mimarom... prvo treba prikupiti dovoljno informacija ( TACNIH ), dovoljno slika sa gradilista i rendera pa onda otvarati novi thread... Za ovakve stvari je predvidjen Sarajevo construction update thread...

Mi smo jednom pricali o ovom kampusu u sarajevo construction update threadu, i nekima su smetale mala dzamija i crkva u kampusu

Pozdrav,

danas kad sam prolazio pored kampusa oko 12 sati, jedna saobracajna traka je bila zatvorena radi nekakvih radova cini mi se u kampusu odn. na dijelu izmedju kampusa i buduce Americke ambasade... E sad, sta se radi, zaista nemam pojma...

Pozdrav,

danas kad sam prolazio pored kampusa oko 12 sati, jedna saobracajna traka je bila zatvorena radi nekakvih radova cini mi se u kampusu odn. na dijelu izmedju kampusa i buduce Americke ambasade... E sad, sta se radi, zaista nemam pojma...

Ovaj kampus se gradi kraj sokolovic kolonije, ne na Marijin dvoru

hjhk

http://www.ius.edu.ba/Portals/0/381/campus3b.jpg
http://www.ius.edu.ba/Portals/0/381/fak%C3%BClte%20-c1.jpg

The architecture is traditional bosnian (with oriental elements).I must admit it is so ugly and also arhitecture is not traditional bosnian, but it is oriental. So what this thing doing in Sarajevo? I am Bosniak and don't like idea at all with some oriental project like this one in Sarajevo or with Arab styles mosques. All that must be destroyed and on that plaice it must be constructed something with Bosnian style.

Also if object on Marin Dvor be in this ugly style, than Marin Dvor will be destroyed for long time.

Who is creature who give license for this ugly thing?
:ohno: :ohno: :ohno:

Ovaj kampus nema veze s Marijin dvorom, ovo je privatni univerzitet IUS (International university of Sarajevo) i gradi se kod Sokolovic kolonije.

Evo bolje slike kampusa, rijeka kraj kampusa je zeljeznica

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Ovaj kampus nema veze s Marijin dvorom, ovo je privatni univerzitet IUS (International university of Sarajevo) i gradi se kod Sokolovic kolonije.svejedno nije mu mjesto u sarajevu. inace sam prilicno skeptican prema privatnim projektima tipa fahdova dzamija.

sarajevu i bosni treba nekakav tradicionalni bosanski stil gradnje, ako vec to zelimo, a ne nazovi bosanski koji cak nije ni turski nego arapski. s tom nakradom treba stati pod hitno i totalno je protjerati s tih prostora pod svaki cijenu. nece oni nas bosnjake pretvoriti u arape pa da naprave dubai u bosni. ovo promatram kao drugi nacin asimilacije.

svaki grad koji drzi do sebe ima limite i oko designa. u sarajevu svako gradi kako hoce i gdje hoce i hajde to jeste tragedija, ali opet puno manje nego se sarajevo pokusava pretvoriti u bliskoistocni grad sa ovakvim tipovima gradnje. dodju arapi sa lovom i mi bez ikakvih limita i granica im dajemo pravo da grade sta hoce i kakvo hoce, a znaju oni graditi u lokalnim tradicijama kad ih se prisili na to. najbolji primjer njihove gradnje je na zapadu. pozitivan primjer svakako jeste slucaj bbi i po odbijanju prvotnog designa i po designu danas.

druga stvar je sto mi cijela ova ideja internacionalnog univerziteta lici na univerzitet vehabija ili tako nesto. kad smo klani nigdje nije bilo internacionalnog muslimanstva i licno ne zelim ga ni sad.

Ok onda hajmo sutra da zaustavimo gradnju BBI`a jer su investitori (http://www.bbi-centar.ba/BBI/investitor.html) arapi :ohno:

upps napisao sam post prije nego sam procitao cijeli tekst, naljutio sam se jer sam mislio da ne zelis arape nikako, zivini :)

druga stvar je sto mi cijela ova ideja internacionalnog univerziteta lici na univerzitet vehabija ili tako nesto. kad smo klani nigdje nije bilo internacionalnog muslimanstva i licno ne zelim ga ni sad.

Ne brini znam da tamo studira dosta turaka koji nisu ni m od muslimana(gori od nasih domacih muslimana) :lol:

upps napisao sam post prije nego sam procitao cijeli tekst, naljutio sam se jer sam mislio da ne zelis arape nikako, zivini :)ma ne zanima me ko je investitor ali sarajevo pod hitno treba napraviti takvu poslovnu klimu da investitor sa parama nece naturati nesto sto odskace totalno od bosnaskog tradicionalnog stila i praviti nekakav arabijski stil. ako se vec gradi u tradicionalnom stilu onda treba da dolazi u obzir samo bosanski ili nikakav. neka prave u tom slucaju moderni kao bbi.

u opste mi se ne svidja ideja tog kampusa. prvo sto ce biti okupljaliste i svjetskog belaja sto nama naglasavam europljanima u opste ne treba. sta sarajevo dobiva sa ovim? dobiva da ce studenti iz islamskih zemalja se dolaziti skolovati ovdje i donositi svoje probleme sa sobom. finansijska dobit je maltene nikakva. mi smo mala i siromasna zemlja da ispravljamo svjetske krive drine i da se uhvatimo u kostac s njima dok istovremeno konsekvence mogu biti nesagledive.

upps napisao sam post prije nego sam procitao cijeli tekst, naljutio sam se jer sam mislio da ne zelis arape nikako, zivini :)zelim ih samo onako kako je bilo za vrijeme bivse jugoslavije, da su tihi, mirni i da se ne zna za njih, a u opste ne zelim nadmene, vehabije i one koji me pokusavaju asimilirati u nekakvog arapa. iskreno takve ne zelim vidjeti blizu sebe i ne zelim ih u svojoj zemlji.

Cini mi se da sad ne prihvataju sve projekte, primjer je GMC toranj(ranije izgledao ko toranj u Las vegas :D) koji je promjenjen i naravno BBI, nadajmo se da ce nastavit tako

btw meni je najgori projekt poslije rata hotel saraj

zelim ih samo onako kako je bilo za vrijeme bivse jugoslavije, da su tihi, mirni i da se ne zna za njih, a u opste ne zelim nadmene, vehabije i one koji me pokusavaju asimilirati u nekakvog arapa. iskreno takve ne zelim vidjeti blizu sebe i ne zelim ih u svojoj zemlji.

Takve ne zeli ni vecina arapa, a ne mi samo :)

Cini mi se da sad ne prihvataju sve projekte, primjer je GMC toranj(ranije izgledao ko toranj u Las vegas :D) koji je promjenjen i naravno BBI, nadajmo se da ce nastavit tako

btw meni je najgori projekt poslije rata hotel sarajvidis gmc toranj su promijenili, a ovo bliskoistocno ruglo nisu?

Uh.. vise mi ide na zivce sto uvijek to ja ispadam kao da podrzavam te novokomponovane dzamije, islamske investicije i slicne gluposti, ali fakat' ljudi pretjeruju. Da bi ovaj projekat bio iscrtan na osnovu kampusa Harvarda, Oxforda, Pariza ili nekog drugog zapadnog univerziteta, ljudi bi jedni druge gazili furajuci da hvale arhitektu do neba. Al' cim nekako lici na modernu varijantu bliskoistocne ili perzijske arhitekture, odmah je to "strano" i nepozeljno u nasem gradu koji je daleko poznat po svojoj arhitektonskoj homogenosti. Pa sto ljudi ne pljuju na Gazi Husrev-begovu biblioteku? Sto ljudi ne pljuju na fakultet Islamskih nauka? Da bi neko izgradio ovaj univerzitet u mom gradu u Americi, ne bi bilo nikakvih problema. Ali eto, Bosnjo k'o da osjeca neku duznost da se dokaze pravim evropljaninom/zapadnjakom putem nelogicne suprotnosti svemu iole "arapsko". Hajmo sad rusit' i vijecnicu - to bliskoistocno ruglo se nikako ne polkapa sa okruzenjem. :|

Edit: Najveca ironija u svemu ovome je da cemo mi koji nemamo nista narocito protiv umjerene arhitektonske raznolikosti ispasti ekstremisti dok razni ksenofobisti predstavljaju vrhunac 'civilizaije'

svejedno nije mu mjesto u sarajevu. inace sam prilicno skeptican prema privatnim projektima tipa fahdova dzamija.

sarajevu i bosni treba nekakav tradicionalni bosanski stil gradnje, ako vec to zelimo, a ne nazovi bosanski koji cak nije ni turski nego arapski. s tom nakradom treba stati pod hitno i totalno je protjerati s tih prostora pod svaki cijenu. nece oni nas bosnjake pretvoriti u arape pa da naprave dubai u bosni. ovo promatram kao drugi nacin asimilacije.

svaki grad koji drzi do sebe ima limite i oko designa. u sarajevu svako gradi kako hoce i gdje hoce i hajde to jeste tragedija, ali opet puno manje nego se sarajevo pokusava pretvoriti u bliskoistocni grad sa ovakvim tipovima gradnje. dodju arapi sa lovom i mi bez ikakvih limita i granica im dajemo pravo da grade sta hoce i kakvo hoce, a znaju oni graditi u lokalnim tradicijama kad ih se prisili na to. najbolji primjer njihove gradnje je na zapadu. pozitivan primjer svakako jeste slucaj bbi i po odbijanju prvotnog designa i po designu danas.

druga stvar je sto mi cijela ova ideja internacionalnog univerziteta lici na univerzitet vehabija ili tako nesto. kad smo klani nigdje nije bilo internacionalnog muslimanstva i licno ne zelim ga ni sad.


moram ti reci da se ne slazem sa tobom ni malo, i da uopste nisi u pravu, i to iz jednostavnih razloga... Kao prvo, svaki taj kako ti kazes arapski objekat je izgradjen mozda arapskim novcem, ali svaku ciglu tih objekata su isprojektovali domaci sarajevski arhitekti, arhitekti, profesori i asistenti mog ( ARHITEKTONKOG ) fakulteta, pa i sam dekan, koji su isti i zavrsili... Dakle kreatori tih objekata su 100% ljudi koji su sagradili pola grada, a koji puno vise znaju o tome kako i sta treba od svih nas zajedno... Naravno, stalno ce biti onih kojima nesto nece biti po volji i koji ce biti protiv svega, ali to su samo razliciti ukusi, ili neukusi, i to je sasvim prirodna stvar...

Da bi ovaj projekat bio iscrtan na osnovu kampusa Harvarda, Oxforda, Pariza ili nekog drugog zapadnog univerziteta, ljudi bi jedni druge gazili furajuci da hvale arhitektu do neba. Al' cim nekako lici na modernu varijantu bliskoistocne ili perzijske arhitekture, odmah je to "strano" i nepozeljno u nasem gradu koji je daleko poznat po svojoj arhitektonskoj homogenosti. Pa sto ljudi ne pljuju na Gazi Husrev-begovu biblioteku? Sto ljudi ne pljuju na fakultet Islamskih nauka? Da bi neko izgradio ovaj univerzitet u mom gradu u Americi, ne bi bilo nikakvih problema. Ali eto, Bosnjo k'o da osjeca neku duznost da se dokaze pravim evropljaninom/zapadnjakom putem nelogicne suprotnosti svemu iole "arapsko". Hajmo sad rusit' i vijecnicu - to bliskoistocno ruglo se nikako ne polkapa sa okruzenjem. :|

Edit: Najveca ironija u svemu ovome je da cemo mi koji nemamo nista narocito protiv umjerene arhitektonske raznolikosti ispasti ekstremisti dok razni ksenofobisti predstavljaju vrhunac 'civilizaije'Sasvim si u pravu barem sto se tice Pariza. Jer mi zivimo u Europi i Bosni koja u graditeljstvu ima
iste standarde kao i ostatku Europe. Evo recimo pogledajmo gradnju privatnih objekata. Koja je razlika izmedju bosanskih i recimo francuskih? Nikakva. Uzmi sad i odvedi bosansku firmu u Francusku da napravi kucu, a da nisu vidjeli francuski nacin gradnje? Velika vjerovatnoca je da ce napraviti identican stil gradnje, sa istim materijalima itd. Ista stvar sa Rijadom napraviti ce totalno razlicitu stvar koja nece biti pogodna za to podneblje. Isto ti je tako kad se pravi saudijski stil gradnje u komunistickom ghetu u Sarajevu. Pored toga sto dzamija totalno strsi samim svojil designom u odnosu na okolinu, dopustanjem da se gradi taj stil u Sarajevu potiskuje se i zaboravlja nas i mi se asimiliramo. A to ne zelimo, jeli tako?

U tradicionalni stil gradnje jednog podneblja je ugradjeno visestoljetno iskustvo koje je prilagodjeno tom podneblju i toj klimi. Druga stvar svaki iole ozbiljniji grad u Europi ne dozvoli razlicit stil gradnje tako da se kuce prave po zakonu identicne visine (sto vazi u svim njemackim gradovima) pa do slicnog i tradicionalnog stila kao sto se radi u svim gradovima Danske recimo. I sad mi ti dodjes ovdje i krenes pametovati o pravima Saudijske Arabije u Bosni? Zasto nisu uveli embargo na jedan dan za naftu kad su vrseni pokolji u Srebrenici? Sad nam ne trebaju u opste, pogotovo nam ne trebaju pametovati jer da su pametni pomogli bi sebi jos davno.

Sto se mene tice ne mozes me ubijediti da u ovom nasem slucaju idealno rjesenje nije deset bagera koji bi to za pola dana sravnili sa zemljom. Ako se vec hoce graditi u tradicionalnom stilu u Sarajevu, ali i cijeloj BiH se trebaju donjeti zakoni da se moze graditi samo u bosanskom tradicionalnom stilu. U suprotnom ostaje tu moderni stil koji je svugdje isti i koji ne strsi i ne asimilira nikog za razliku od kopiranog objekta iz Rijada.

moram ti reci da se ne slazem sa tobom ni malo, i da uopste nisi u pravu, i to iz jednostavnih razloga... Kao prvo, svaki taj kako ti kazes arapski objekat je izgradjen mozda arapskim novcem, ali svaku ciglu tih objekata su isprojektovali domaci sarajevski arhitekti, arhitekti, profesori i asistenti mog ( ARHITEKTONKOG ) fakulteta, pa i sam dekan, koji su isti i zavrsili... Dakle kreatori tih objekata su 100% ljudi koji su sagradili pola grada, a koji puno vise znaju o tome kako i sta treba od svih nas zajedno... Naravno, stalno ce biti onih kojima nesto nece biti po volji i koji ce biti protiv svega, ali to su samo razliciti ukusi, ili neukusi, i to je sasvim prirodna stvar...Nemaju Arapi sta nama graditi vjerske objekte. Ako su htjeli pomoci mogli su zatvoriti ventile u Julu 1995 i time pomoci. Mogli su to uraditi i 1992 godine pa nas skinuti embargo na oruzje. Nisu. Poslali su nam svjetsku olos da nas kompromitiju. Danas apsolutno nisu potrebni. Ako oni ne grade da zarade na tim objektima, milostinja nam nije potrebna. Cisto sumnjam da BBI gradi zbog milostinje, a ne svoje zarade. Zato se trebaju postovati zakoni domacina. Ako ti sad povedes zenu u Arabiju, ona ce morati zavezati maramu oko glave da ne bi zavrsio u zatvoru, bez obzira koliko potrosio love i bez obzira da li je rodjena u Arabiji ili ne. Znaci zakoni se u jednoj drzavi moraju postovati, pogotovo od stranaca.

Sto se tice diletanata sa tog fakulteta, ja u Sarajevu ne vidim objekat koji necemu estetski vrijedi sa design gledista. Mozda Strausove tornjeve i tu se zavrsava prica. Grad u svakom pravcu ne sredjen, sa arhitektonskim nakazama, zemljisne knjige nikakve, plan gradnje nikakav, svako pravi sta hoce i po nesreci nakaze itd.

Sve su srednja zalost, da ne govorim o sredjenosti arhitektonskoj itd. Sve su to diletanti kao sto ces i ti biti kad zavrsis to. Onog momenta kad izadjes napolje i sa tom diplomom u djepu u najboljem slucaju budes taksirao skontati ces koliko sam ja surovo u pravu.

Ne treba izmisljati toplu vodu, dzamije graditi u stilu koji je nas i kako smo mi to kroz istoriju gradili, ostale objekte graditi u tom stilu prvenstveno da pokazuju nas stil gradnje ili moderni stil gradnje, ne dalekoistocnih zemalja.

Da zakljucim arabijskom stilu nije mjesto u Sarajevu. Bosanski i to u detalje pokriven zakonom ili moderni. Treci ne smije da postoji jer cemo se asimilirati. Arapi su nam poceli govoriti kako da se molimo bogu, sad nas uce kako da gradimo i ako smo stotinu puta bolji graditelji jer jedino sto imaju oni je lova od nafte koju ce brzo spickati jer ce se ubrzo pronaci alternativa nafti i onda ce jesti pijesak koliko su "pametni".

Sasvim si u pravu barem sto se tice Pariza. Jer mi zivimo u Europi i Bosni koja u graditeljstvu ima
iste standarde kao i ostatku Europe. Evo recimo pogledajmo gradnju privatnih objekata. Koja je razlika izmedju bosanskih i recimo francuskih? Nikakva. Uzmi sad i odvedi bosansku firmu u Francusku da napravi kucu, a da nisu vidjeli francuski nacin gradnje? Velika vjerovatnoca je da ce napraviti identican stil gradnje, sa istim materijalima itd. Ista stvar sa Rijadom napraviti ce totalno razlicitu stvar koja nece biti pogodna za to podneblje. Isto ti je tako kad se pravi saudijski stil gradnje u komunistickom ghetu u Sarajevu. Pored toga sto dzamija totalno strsi samim svojil designom u odnosu na okolinu, dopustanjem da se gradi taj stil u Sarajevu potiskuje se i zaboravlja nas i mi se asimiliramo. A to ne zelimo, jeli tako?

U tradicionalni stil gradnje jednog podneblja je ugradjeno visestoljetno iskustvo koje je prilagodjeno tom podneblju i toj klimi. Druga stvar svaki iole ozbiljniji grad u Europi ne dozvoli razlicit stil gradnje tako da se kuce prave po zakonu identicne visine (sto vazi u svim njemackim gradovima) pa do slicnog i tradicionalnog stila kao sto se radi u svim gradovima Danske recimo. I sad mi ti dodjes ovdje i krenes pametovati o pravima Saudijske Arabije u Bosni? Zasto nisu uveli embargo na jedan dan za naftu kad su vrseni pokolji u Srebrenici? Sad nam ne trebaju u opste, pogotovo nam ne trebaju pametovati jer da su pametni pomogli bi sebi jos davno.

Sto se mene tice ne mozes me ubijediti da u ovom nasem slucaju idealno rjesenje nije deset bagera koji bi to za pola dana sravnili sa zemljom. Ako se vec hoce graditi u tradicionalnom stilu u Sarajevu, ali i cijeloj BiH se trebaju donjeti zakoni da se moze graditi samo u bosanskom tradicionalnom stilu. U suprotnom ostaje tu moderni stil koji je svugdje isti i koji ne strsi i ne asimilira nikog za razliku od kopiranog objekta iz Rijada.

Nemaju Arapi sta nama graditi vjerske objekte. Ako su htjeli pomoci mogli su zatvoriti ventile u Julu 1995 i time pomoci. Mogli su to uraditi i 1992 godine pa nas skinuti embargo na oruzje. Nisu. Poslali su nam svjetsku olos da nas kompromitiju. Danas apsolutno nisu potrebni. Ako oni ne grade da zarade na tim objektima, milostinja nam nije potrebna. Cisto sumnjam da BBI gradi zbog milostinje, a ne svoje zarade. Zato se trebaju postovati zakoni domacina. Ako ti sad povedes zenu u Arabiju, ona ce morati zavezati maramu oko glave da ne bi zavrsio u zatvoru, bez obzira koliko potrosio love i bez obzira da li je rodjena u Arabiji ili ne. Znaci zakoni se u jednoj drzavi moraju postovati, pogotovo od stranaca.

Sto se tice diletanata sa tog fakulteta, ja u Sarajevu ne vidim objekat koji necemu estetski vrijedi sa design gledista. Mozda Strausove tornjeve i tu se zavrsava prica. Grad u svakom pravcu ne sredjen, sa arhitektonskim nakazama, zemljisne knjige nikakve, plan gradnje nikakav, svako pravi sta hoce i po nesreci nakaze itd.

Sve su srednja zalost, da ne govorim o sredjenosti arhitektonskoj itd. Sve su to diletanti kao sto ces i ti biti kad zavrsis to. Onog momenta kad izadjes napolje i sa tom diplomom u djepu u najboljem slucaju budes taksirao skontati ces koliko sam ja surovo u pravu.

Ne treba izmisljati toplu vodu, dzamije graditi u stilu koji je nas i kako smo mi to kroz istoriju gradili, ostale objekte graditi u tom stilu prvenstveno da pokazuju nas stil gradnje ili moderni stil gradnje, ne dalekoistocnih zemalja.

Da zakljucim arabijskom stilu nije mjesto u Sarajevu. Bosanski i to u detalje pokriven zakonom ili moderni. Treci ne smije da postoji jer cemo se asimilirati. Arapi su nam poceli govoriti kako da se molimo bogu, sad nas uce kako da gradimo i ako smo stotinu puta bolji graditelji jer jedino sto imaju oni je lova od nafte koju ce brzo spickati jer ce se ubrzo pronaci alternativa nafti i onda ce jesti pijesak koliko su "pametni".

Shvati da su dosla nova vremena, ne mozes sada praviti dzamiju od kamena kao sto se to radilo prije 500 - 1000 godina... ta su vremena prosla, za tih 1000 godina se citavo drustvo razvilo, a da ne pricamo o arhitekturi... po tebi bi u atini ili rimu trebalo zabraniti i porusiti sve objekte koji su sagradjeni u zadnjih 2000 godina zato sto nisu isti kao sto su ih pravili stari Grci ili Rimljani... ne mozes tako lajicki pricati o arhitekturi i ljudima koji znaju svoj posao, a ti kao neko ko nema pojma o tome iznosis neke svoje stavove o ovome ili onome... Jednostavno shvati da nisi mjerodavan da dajes nikakve komentare o arhitekturi ovoga grada jer nemas adekvatno znanje o tome... Tebi se nesto samo moze svidjati ili ne, i imas pravo dati svoj komentar o tome, ali nemas pravo i nisi kompetentan da zalazis u tu problematiku... pozdrav ;)

Mi smo jednom pricali o ovom kampusu u sarajevo construction update threadu, i nekima su smetale mala dzamija i crkva u kampusu
a gdje je crkva ta?
Taj neko sam ja, jer smatram da religiji nije mjesto na univerzitetu. Ti smatras da jeste?

Uh.. vise mi ide na zivce sto uvijek to ja ispadam kao da podrzavam te novokomponovane dzamije, islamske investicije i slicne gluposti, ali fakat' ljudi pretjeruju. Da bi ovaj projekat bio iscrtan na osnovu kampusa Harvarda, Oxforda, Pariza ili nekog drugog zapadnog univerziteta, ljudi bi jedni druge gazili furajuci da hvale arhitektu do neba. Al' cim nekako lici na modernu varijantu bliskoistocne ili perzijske arhitekture, odmah je to "strano" i nepozeljno u nasem gradu koji je daleko poznat po svojoj arhitektonskoj homogenosti. Pa sto ljudi ne pljuju na Gazi Husrev-begovu biblioteku? Sto ljudi ne pljuju na fakultet Islamskih nauka? Da bi neko izgradio ovaj univerzitet u mom gradu u Americi, ne bi bilo nikakvih problema. Ali eto, Bosnjo k'o da osjeca neku duznost da se dokaze pravim evropljaninom/zapadnjakom putem nelogicne suprotnosti svemu iole "arapsko". Hajmo sad rusit' i vijecnicu - to bliskoistocno ruglo se nikako ne polkapa sa okruzenjem. :|

Edit: Najveca ironija u svemu ovome je da cemo mi koji nemamo nista narocito protiv umjerene arhitektonske raznolikosti ispasti ekstremisti dok razni ksenofobisti predstavljaju vrhunac 'civilizaije'

hej ko je sad pravio vijećnicu? turci ili austrijanci? :)

a gdje je crkva ta?
Taj neko sam ja, jer smatram da religiji nije mjesto na univerzitetu. Ti smatras da jeste?

Da je drzavni i ja bi bio protiv, al ovo je privatni univerzitet nek rade sta hoce s njihvim parama, a crkva se ne vidi na rendering al sam cuo da ce je gradit, valjda ce biti mala.

a gdje je crkva ta?
Taj neko sam ja, jer smatram da religiji nije mjesto na univerzitetu. Ti smatras da jeste?Nije mjesto ni u skolama pa postoji religija.nije mjesto ni na fudbalskim terenima,pa postoje kapele i sl. al ko smo mi ,mi se jos ne pitamo.

hej ko je sad pravio vijećnicu? turci ili austrijanci? :)Pa austrijanac.

a što izgleda onako... orijentalno? hehe

If the University is Internationals and open to anyone from the world then why are they building a mosque and church? Shouldn't there be a Synagogue and a Buddhist temple, catholic church..etc if they are going for that kind of thing?

This is very stupid and the building belong in the Arabian desert not BiH! Who is the investor? Another Arabian country out to turn BiH into something they can use?

If the University is Internationals and open to anyone from the world then why are they building a mosque and church? Shouldn't there be a Synagogue and a Buddhist temple, catholic church..etc if they are going for that kind of thing?

This is very stupid and the building belong in the Arabian desert not BiH! Who is the investor? Another Arabian country out to turn BiH into something they can use?

the mosque is there to be convenient for muslims to pray during the day. for serbs i don't see why this should be a problem when in your religion you traditionally go to church on sundays when the campus will be closed, but don't worry in sarajevo an orthodox church is always open just few streets away

^^ mene to ne pogadja ne trebaju mi crkve na fakultetu. A i ja imam osjecaj da je to jos jedan pokusaj radikalizacije bosanskih muslimana. Vidi se sta rade vehabije po FBH.

Da je drzavni i ja bi bio protiv, al ovo je privatni univerzitet nek rade sta hoce s njihvim parama, a crkva se ne vidi na rendering al sam cuo da ce je gradit, valjda ce biti mala.
pa drzava treba da zabrani takve stvari, skolovanje treba biti pod kontrolom i pravilima drzave.

the mosque is there to be convenient for muslims to pray during the day. for serbs i don't see why this should be a problem when in your religion you traditionally go to church on sundays when the campus will be closed, but don't worry in sarajevo an orthodox church is always open just few streets away

uuhm actually sajtion,how many students do pray in mosques five times a day?? ill tell u 0,1% lol :D maybe even less :dunno: so i dont think that what uve stated isnt a good enough reason ;)

uuhm actually sajtion,how many students do pray in mosques five times a day?? ill tell u 0,1% lol :D maybe even less :dunno: so i dont think that what uve stated isnt a good enough reason ;)

well that depends if one student prayed five times then thats quite enough of reason to be there, besides mosque would look nice in campus

uuhm actually sajtion,how many students do pray in mosques five times a day?? ill tell u 0,1% lol :D maybe even less :dunno: so i dont think that what uve stated isnt a good enough reason ;)

I think they are way more than u think, and besides who doesn't like it doesn't have to go

I think they are way more than u think, and besides who doesn't like it doesn't have to go

exactly all the bad comments are coming from obviously serbs and croats who wouldn't want to study in this university because of the mosque. i studied abroad in one college and there was a church right in the middle of the campus and i didn't have any objections to it or felt discriminated at all. this just shows how narrow minded people they are, to make a big deal out of nothing

Well the problem here is that this is not some other country but Bosnia and with war scars still showing its really hard for anyone ethnicity to accept others achievements. The way I see it that is that they should build something like a square in the middle of the campus with each religion having a door to one side and all the same size, that way no one is excluded and it would force all the religions to work with one another.

exactly all the bad comments are coming from obviously serbs and croats who wouldn't want to study in this university because of the mosque. i studied abroad in one college and there was a church right in the middle of the campus and i didn't have any objections to it or felt discriminated at all. this just shows how narrow minded people they are, to make a big deal out of nothingwell, not quite. i am bosniak and i like idea of the international campus for for example european students, and even from world but with highest standards of the control of the candidate for that campus.

how they think about this, everyone who have a money will come here and bring with him also worlds problems. so who is responsible for this and who from bosnia are able to take responsability if something goes wrong, what is more likelly?

especially don't like idea of the religion objects inside the university. international campus is noble idea, but it is not impossible to run him without huge problems, worlds problems, what will be much bigger than some local official are able to control that.

anywhere don't like project at all, it must be turn down. it is looking too religious, too arab and it is ugly.

sorry, but don't like even idea that something like this is near marin dvor.

Any religious objects in a university that is not purely teaching religion is wrong. How would they expect to be taken seriously in any other country? If I saw a predominant mosque/church/synagogue when looking for a university, I would not go there. Neither would most people...

When will the construction of this beautiful campus?

I really like this cause there is a mosque in the centre of the campus and this is good cause Bosnia is not a christian country and because of that it is necessary to built mosques.

Btw... please... tell me when the construction of this campus will start?

@ sajtion: to build a mosque cuz of one person?!
@ mostarac: i dunno wutz the case in MO,but in SM noone under 60 goes to pray 5 times a day :D i zar nije bolje onda za te pare napraviti nekim ljudima kuće kojima je to zaista potrebno i učiniti dobro djelo,nego napraviti džamiju koja će stajati ako ne i više nego poluprazna :dunno:

^^ od kuca nemaju ti "dobrotvori" koristi

^^ ooooooosim... ako ne daju te kuće vehabijama? :P

sorry, but don't like even idea that something like this is near marin dvor.

Ovaj kampus je u sokolovic koloniji znaci udaljen je od Marijin dvora 10 km, cak nije u gradu :)

Any religious objects in a university that is not purely teaching religion is wrong. How would they expect to be taken seriously in any other country? If I saw a predominant mosque/church/synagogue when looking for a university, I would not go there. Neither would most people...

So you wouldn't go to Harvard? Yale? Princeton? Oxford? Cambridge?

^^ bas su za poredjenje ti univerziteti.

^^ bas su za poredjenje ti univerziteti.

Ili da za primjer uzmemo neki drugi privatni univerzitet u našoj zemlji, na primjer, Slobomir P. Univerzitet u Doboju koji također planira izgradnju male pravoslavne crkve u sklopu svog kampusa. Meni to ne smeta. Neka svako na svojoj zemlji, za svoje pare, gradi šta hoće (ako ima validne dozvole, naravno) i daj da napokon okončamo ovu temu sad kad je svako iznio svoje mišljenje o tome.

^^izvor da grade crkvu???
a neka grade oni u svojoj zemlji (saudijskoj arabiji ili vec odakle su), a ne u mojoj.
da bosanski muslimani to grade ne bi mi bilo toliko strano, ali ovo mi smrdi.

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/5992/1mn1.jpg


nije ovo samo tvoja zemlja bl, u bosni i hercegovini zivi skoro dva miliona muslimana. bosnjaci ce graditi taj kampus, on se pravi gradu sarajevu i svi studenti ce biti dobro dosli u njemu. meni se cini bl da tebi smeta arhitektura kampusa zasto sto su okovi vrata uvijeni, sto ima ljepa fontana i dvoriste u njemu i naravno djamija. nema nikakve veze ko ce graditi kampus. arabi ce uvijek biti dobro dosli da studiraju i mole se alahu u njemu. ovo je najbolji projekat sto ce se raditi u sarajevu

Ama, ljudi, nemojte više o tome. Svi mi imamo pravo na svoje mišljenje i treba da se trudimo da prihvatamo različita mišljenja. BL je stari član foruma i često pohvali lijepe projekte u SA ali eto ideja da se gradi sakralni objekat u sklopu kampusa mu se nesviđa i to je njegovo lično mišljenje pa ga moramo prihvatiti. Molim vas da ubuduće svi izbjegavate slične rasprave.
Degustibus non discutandum! (O ukusima se ne raspravlja, na latinskom)

o ne latinski :ohno: profesor Kemo... 1. i 2. razred... ružna sjećanja :D

okej hajmo sad na univerzitet bez crappy postova :D

Ama, ljudi, nemojte više o tome. Svi mi imamo pravo na svoje mišljenje i treba da se trudimo da prihvatamo različita mišljenja. BL je stari član foruma i često pohvali lijepe projekte u SA ali eto ideja da se gradi sakralni objekat u sklopu kampusa mu se nesviđa i to je njegovo lično mišljenje pa ga moramo prihvatiti. Molim vas da ubuduće svi izbjegavate slične rasprave.
Degustibus non discutandum! (O ukusima se ne raspravlja, na latinskom)

znam da svi mrze kad ispravljam ljude, al sorry...moram:)
De gustibus et coloribus non est disPutandum.

ja sam ga isto mrzio...al bio sam ga prisiljen učiti...profa je bila stara cura u 35-toj godini pa je bila uvijek loše volje. Imao sam 5, al od tog svega su mi samo poslovice ostale.

nemoj kaj zamjeriti Hariskec:)

Hvala na ispravci. Čovjek uči dok je živ! :)
Pozdrav za ZG!

So you wouldn't go to Harvard? Yale? Princeton? Oxford? Cambridge?

Are you seriously comparing these to the mosque being built in the Uni in Sarajevo? Objects in these Unis are Historic and built during westward expansion or later years when religion played a major part in people lives. Building a mosque in the middle of a new campus and modeling the campus after Arabic building and calling them “Oriental” is just crap.

And knowing you will probably object to everything I have said I might as well make the point clearer. Yes some of those Historic churches in the campuses are used for religious studying, and some student might consider it a haven, but it to present day, the school churches are not used for mass prayers or anyone pretty much.

But then again this is a private university and under USA law religion is only banned in public schools and I’m guessing BiH is abiding by the same terms so people like us have no say in this. It’s a private investment and they can make it how they see fit. Anyway, if they want to appeal only to Arabs so be it, Turkey is a part of this project after all? No? And after seeing how Turkey banned Youtube for the so called lies about genocide..which they actually did, we see how great it can be for such a wonderful country to invest in BiH.:lol:

^^ bas su za poredjenje ti univerziteti.

Vidi filozofa. Znaci, da bi medunarodni univerzitet u Sarajevu bio na istom niovu kvaliteta kao ti gore spomenuti fakulteti onda bi odjednom imao pravo da gradi religijske objekte za studente? tj, moralnost zavisi od finansijske/politicke/drustvene moci.

Are you seriously comparing these to the mosque being built in the Uni in Sarajevo?

In the context of Zivan's response, yes.

Objects in these Unis are Historic and built during westward expansion or later years when religion played a major part in people lives.

And so (in the context of Zivan's response) you are saying what, exactly? That, regardless of the quality of education and opportunities provided, you would refuse to attend any university with a religious object on campus that does not meet your above-mentioned criteria?

Building a mosque in the middle of a new campus and modeling the campus after Arabic building and calling them “Oriental” is just crap.

And why is building a campus influenced by Islamic architecture so wrong?

And knowing you will probably object to everything I have said I might as well make the point clearer. Yes some of those Historic churches in the campuses are used for religious studying, and some student might consider it a haven, but it to present day, the school churches are not used for mass prayers or anyone pretty much.

So they should never have been built?

But then again this is a private university and under USA law religion is only banned in public schools and I’m guessing BiH is abiding by the same terms so people like us have no say in this. It’s a private investment and they can make it how they see fit.

Yes, except that "law" you're referring to is not uniquely American but based on a centuries old tenet of western civilization and political philosophy.

Anyway, if they want to appeal only to Arabs so be it...

And why do they appeal only to Arabs?

Turkey is a part of this project after all? No? And after seeing how Turkey banned Youtube for the so called lies about genocide..which they actually did, we see how great it can be for such a wonderful country to invest in BiH.:lol:

So BiH should refuse investment and help from countries with unsatisfactory records on free speech and human rights?

Vidi filozofa. Znaci, da bi medunarodni univerzitet u Sarajevu bio na istom niovu kvaliteta kao ti gore spomenuti fakulteti onda bi odjednom imao pravo da gradi religijske objekte za studente? tj, moralnost zavisi od finansijske/politicke/drustvene moci.
to su univerziteti i crkve napravljeni prije nekoliko vijekova, a kao sto je receno religija je tad imala drugaciju vaznost u svkodnevnom zivotu nego danas, bar u evropi!

to su univerziteti i crkve napravljeni prije nekoliko vijekova, a kao sto je receno religija je tad imala drugaciju vaznost u svkodnevnom zivotu nego danas, bar u evropi!

Dobro. Znaci, sasvim neovisno od kvaliteta ucenja, ti ne bi (iz principa) isao na neki univerzitet koji ima moderni vjerski objekat sagradjen na kampusu?

^^ako se radi o vehabijskog univerzitetu u SA ne bih. A ako je normalan univerzitet bih, pa nek ima dzamiju.

^^ako se radi o vehabijskog univerzitetu u SA ne bih. A ako je normalan univerzitet bih, pa nek ima dzamiju.

Da je vehabijski ne bi ga ni ja htio, al hvala bogu nije

ko ga finansira?

^^ usama bin ladin :lol:

In the context of Zivan's response, yes.



1. And so (in the context of Zivan's response) you are saying what, exactly? That, regardless of the quality of education and opportunities provided, you would refuse to attend any university with a religious object on campus that does not meet your above-mentioned criteria?



2. And why is building a campus influenced by Islamic architecture so wrong?



3. So they should never have been built?



4. Yes, except that "law" you're referring to is not uniquely American but based on a centuries old tenet of western civilization and political philosophy.



5. And why do they appeal only to Arabs?



6. So BiH should refuse investment and help from countries with unsatisfactory records on free speech and human rights?

1.Where did I say I would refuse to attend one, I clearly said the churches built in the more prestige schools in the USA were built during times of mass worship.

2. This has ties with my first statement, I’m fine with it being an Islamic influence of architecture, but building a mosque for worship and not educational purposes (which they are probably not) is not ok by any means on my side. And going back to the Islamic architecture, yes its is ok, but not middle eastern Islamic. You may want that but I personally do not and many might not either.

3.It was fine back then, just like it was fine in BiH, but BiH as a more modern country should put forward opportunities that do not have ties with religion.

4. May be, but it sure makes sense to use it.

5. They appeal to Arabs because the architecture is no others then theirs. If I built a Oriental (East Asia) type of college and said anyone could come over from the world, proclaimed it excellent and stuck a Buddhist temple in the middle of the campus I’m sure that the Asian student population would outnumber any other. Of course seeing as how BiH is not fond to Muslim Asians you only really have 2 choices there, Arabs, Albanians and Africans, but African Muslims living with Arabs.

6. BiH refuses many investments from Serbia or calls them attempts to take BiH over? But that not being the point, no, BiH should accept investments but not the ones that have religion tied to them. If it was a college free of any religion ties then the offer would be gold, with it being tied to religion however, it is tin. And backing this up, even if the US or Austria, whomever offered to build a Christian college in Sarajevo it would still be wrong, because that country is still deciding what religion should play a major part in Sarajevo as well as BiH.

You may agree, disagree or whatever you like that’s your choice there and not mine but I strongly emphasize my last paragraph.
:cheers:

...joj jeste dosadni vise sa ovim prepucavanjima...

ovo je najgluplja tema na ovom forumu od kad sam dosao na ovu stranicu! :S

So you wouldn't go to Harvard? Yale? Princeton? Oxford? Cambridge?

As arêteixion said, they were built ages ago. This is being built now. If the university was in the heart of Sarajevo besides a religious object built 300 years ago, it would matter. However, this is being built now, and is officially a part of the university. I definitely wouldn't trust any that have built new ones recently, as the whole issue of evolution/morality/bias/etc would influence the education provided greatly. I cringe at the though of any level of organized religion being able to influence a university.

i dont care about the religous look of the university, but it is just godamn ugly

^^ :lol: :lol: agreed

i dont care about the religous look of the university, but it is just godamn ugly

Building an Islamic styled school in Sarajevo is fine, but the crappy non Bosnian or European look for that matter threw me off. Besides that I agree completly.

omg, if only i knew this topic exists it would have been different :-)

m the student at the ius and ill tell you anything you wanted. the university has just started. the oldest generation are sophomores (2. year)

- this is not a muslim university. the campus is being built in hrasnica. current university is located in paromlinska in cengic vila and because there wasnt so much free space they are building campus in hrasnica. they had to make the campus on the existing stadium in ilidza. also in the campus there will be mosque, 2 chapells and also a sinagogue.

- the most of the students are turks, the foundation is founded in sarajevo and it is consisted of people from turkey and also from bosnia and herzegovina. you have on the site all founders names if you wanna know about them. there are representatives from 12 countries from whole world (usa,bosnia and herzegovina,serbia,montenegro,croatia,hungary,turkey,sudan,egypt,india,indonesia,china etc) i dont know whats the problem then, this is not a muslim university dough the of the students are muslim.

- you are talking about something about you dont know nothing. the official university language is english and there is also english language school which is very strict. there are students who are learning english for 2 years and they still didnt start to study at the ius. also, there are 3 faculties at the ius

1. Faculty of Arts and Social Science (FASS) :
- Visual Arts and Visual Communications Design (VACD)
- Cultural Studies (CULT)
- Social and Political Sciences(SPS)
- English Languages & Literature (ELIT) - with three tracks: English Language Teaching, English Literature and Translation
- Psychology

2. Faculty of Economics and Business Administration (FEBA) :
- Management/Leadership Studies (MLS)
- Economics (ECO)
- International Relations (IR)

3. Faculty of Engineering and Natural Sciences (FENS)
- Biological Sciences and Bioengineering (BIO)
- Computer Science and Engineering (CS)
- Electrical and Electronics Engineering (EE)
- Industrial Engineering (IE)
- Materials Science and Engineering (MAT)
- Mechanical Engineering (ME)

but that list is not over yet cause university is going to establish 5 more faculties in two years (when the campus builds) like architecture faculty, gradjevina (i dont know how to say it in english :-( ), then medical faculty, pharmacy and dental faculty. those faculties cannot be enstablished now because there arent enough space for the labratories so it will be all established at the campus

also, proffesors are from all over the world, the most of them got phd in the states. there are a lot of proffesors from western europe but for me the best proffs are from bosnia :-) really

this university is quite different from the other, the only faculty which has the same system is the faculy of ejub ganic but this university gives schollarships for all excellent students depending how you do the entering exam which is consisted of math, language and obligative two profficiency exams. one academic year costs around 5.000€ for foreign students and 3,850 € for students coming from bosnia. also the university has established good relationships with manmara university in istambul (one of the oldest in turkey) and also with the josh cabot university in rome. the both of them have the same system, also in english. they signed protocols so that the students can exchange for semester, or couple of semesters

so, ask me anything if you want. im now here to answer :-)

greetings from sarajevo

omg, if only i knew this topic exists it would have been different :-)

m the student at the ius and ill tell you anything you wanted. the university has just started. the oldest generation are sophomores (2. year)

- this is not a muslim university. the campus is being built in hrasnica. current university is located in paromlinska in cengic vila and because there wasnt so much free space they are building campus in hrasnica. they had to make the campus on the existing stadium in ilidza. also in the campus there will be mosque, 2 chapells and also a sinagogue.

- the most of the students are turks, the foundation is founded in sarajevo and it is consisted of people from turkey and also from bosnia and herzegovina. you have on the site all founders names if you wanna know about them. there are representatives from 12 countries from whole world (usa,bosnia and herzegovina,serbia,montenegro,croatia,hungary,turkey,sudan,egypt,india,indonesia,china etc) i dont know whats the problem then, this is not a muslim university dough the of the students are muslim.

- you are talking about something about you dont know nothing. the official university language is english and there is also english language school which is very strict. there are students who are learning english for 2 years and they still didnt start to study at the ius. also, there are 3 faculties at the ius

1. Faculty of Arts and Social Science (FASS) :
- Visual Arts and Visual Communications Design (VACD)
- Cultural Studies (CULT)
- Social and Political Sciences(SPS)
- English Languages & Literature (ELIT) - with three tracks: English Language Teaching, English Literature and Translation
- Psychology

2. Faculty of Economics and Business Administration (FEBA) :
- Management/Leadership Studies (MLS)
- Economics (ECO)
- International Relations (IR)

3. Faculty of Engineering and Natural Sciences (FENS)
- Biological Sciences and Bioengineering (BIO)
- Computer Science and Engineering (CS)
- Electrical and Electronics Engineering (EE)
- Industrial Engineering (IE)
- Materials Science and Engineering (MAT)
- Mechanical Engineering (ME)

but that list is not over yet cause university is going to establish 5 more faculties in two years (when the campus builds) like architecture faculty, gradjevina (i dont know how to say it in english :-( ), then medical faculty, pharmacy and dental faculty. those faculties cannot be enstablished now because there arent enough space for the labratories so it will be all established at the campus

also, proffesors are from all over the world, the most of them got phd in the states. there are a lot of proffesors from western europe but for me the best proffs are from bosnia :-) really

this university is quite different from the other, the only faculty which has the same system is the faculy of ejub ganic but this university gives schollarships for all excellent students depending how you do the entering exam which is consisted of math, language and obligative two profficiency exams. one academic year costs around 5.000€ for foreign students and 3,850 € for students coming from bosnia. also the university has established good relationships with manmara university in istambul (one of the oldest in turkey) and also with the josh cabot university in rome. the both of them have the same system, also in english. they signed protocols so that the students can exchange for semester, or couple of semesters

so, ask me anything if you want. im now here to answer :-)

greetings from sarajevo


I think what started this whole thing isn't the religion really, its just the crappy look of the university...its ugly.

Thanks a lot for the explanation though, and welcome to the forums..

hihihi :lol:

ma it wont look so bad, youll see :-)

the enthusiasm is what counts

Imali kakav update?

i mene zanima :) nikad nisam bio tamo, ne znam ni gdje se nalazi uopste :ohno:

http://www.sa-c.info/projects/28

Zadnji update je bio 12 juna!

stas, nikome se ne ide tamo :ohno:

Jel bosanska diploma ili turska?

na engleskom :) nigdje veze sa turskom :ohno:

Kako napreduje? Ne izgleda bas tako dobro ovaj design, ali mislim da ce bit bitno za obrazovanje, to je super.

EDIT: "DP"

Nadam se da ce se uozbiljiti i napraviti normalan univerzitet, a ne ono sranje sa rendera.

I like it, especially the great open area in the middle.

Nadam se da ce se uozbiljiti i napraviti normalan univerzitet, a ne ono sranje sa rendera.

hehe, e moji ljudi, da oni ista naprave :D ev trebao bi kao sljedece godine biti otvor a nisu nista zavrsili :) ipak mnogo love treba za to :nuts:

Evo jos par slika tog fakulteta:

http://www.ius.edu.ba/common/cam00.jpg

http://www.ius.edu.ba/common/cam0.jpg

http://www.ius.edu.ba/common/cam1.jpg

http://www.ius.edu.ba/common/cam2.jpg

http://www.ius.edu.ba/common/cam4.jpg

http://www.ius.edu.ba/common/cam9.jpg

http://www.ius.edu.ba/common/cam7.jpg

takodjer u sklopu kampusa zavrsen je i muski dom dok se zenski trenutno pravi...evo i slike

http://www.ius.edu.ba/common/campus(27).jpg

http://www.ius.edu.ba/common/campus(3).jpg

I really like it, even if the most of people don't, I consider it one of the best projects in Sarajevo as it promotes BiH as an international place of studies and knowledge, and that's the best ad we can get.

I really like it, even if the most of people don't, I consider it one of the best projects in Sarajevo as it promotes BiH as an international place of studies and knowledge, and that's the best ad we can get.

I like it to!

i kinda like it :) just needs a huge park :p then it will be nice, but everything has a start ;D

^^ it will - look here

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^^ it will - look here

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wow thanks Edin :D Gotta say this looks very good, just what Sarajevo needs :cheers: i like the center, looks nice

wow thanks Edin :D Gotta say this looks very good, just what Sarajevo needs :cheers: i like the center, looks nice

you're welcome - whatever you want to know: feel free to ask ...most of us speak english

:cheers:

Silajdžić i Erdogan će otvoriti Kampus IUS-a na Ilidži

Internacionalni univerzitet u Sarajevu (IUS) upriličit će 5. aprila ceremoniju službenog otvaranja novog kampusa na Ilidži. Kampus će otvoriti predsjedavajući Predsjedništva BiH Haris Silajdžić i premijer Republike Turske Recep Tayyip Erdogan.
Tom prilikom, predstavnici Internacionalnog univerziteta u Sarajevu i njegovog osnivača, Fondacije za razvoj obrazovanja Sarajevo, uglednim gostima će uručiti i prigodne poklone.

Kampus Internacionalnog Univerziteta u Sarajevu primjer je modernog i privlačnog arhitektonskog zdanja s izvrsnim sadržajima za studente te je po tome jedinstven u BiH, navedeno je u saopćenju pristiglom iz IUS-a.

Internacionalni univerzitet u Sarajevu osnovala je Fondacija za razvoj obrazovanja, a inauguriran je u akademskoj 2004/2005. godini.

Univerzitet čine Fakultet umjetnosti i društvenih nauka, Fakultet za ekonomiju i administrativne nauke i Fakultet za inženjering i prirodne nauke. Nastava se odvija na engleskom jeziku po principima bolonjskog studija.

IUS pohađa više od 1.200 studenata iz 22 zemlje svijeta, saopćeno je iz ove obrazovne institucije

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kada treba da ovo sve bude gotovo? i je li grad ovo financira?

kada treba da ovo sve bude gotovo? i je li grad ovo financira?

Koje vez ima ovo sa gradom? Ovo je privatna institucija koju financira fond iz turske.

Koje vez ima ovo sa gradom? Ovo je privatna institucija koju financira fond iz turske.

Nisam znao zato pitam, smiri hormone....

Večeras otvoren novi kampus UIS-a na Ilidži



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Novi kampus Internacionalnog univerziteta u Sarajevu (IUS) svečano je otvoren večeras na Ilidži.
Kampus su otvorili predsjedavajući Predsjedništva Bosne i Hercegovine Haris Silajdžić i premijer Republike Turske Recep Tayyip Erdogan.

Kampus Internacionalnog Univerziteta u Sarajevu primjer je modernog i privlačnog arhitektonskog zdanja s izvrsnim sadržajima za studente i po tome je jedinstven u Bosni i Hercegovini.

Osnivač IUS-a je Fondacija za razvoj obrazovanja. Inauguriran je u akademskoj 2004./2005. godini. Pohađa ga više od 1.200 studenata iz 22 zemlje svijeta.

Univerzitet čine Fakultet umjetnosti i društvenih nauka, Fakultet za ekonomiju i administrativne nauke i Fakultet za inženjering i prirodne nauke.

Nastava se odvija na engleskom jeziku po principima bolonjskog studija.
(FENA)

Bosnian Colleges Draw Turks Avoiding Headscarf Ban

Daria Sito-Sucic
SARAJEVO
Mon Apr 5, 2010 4:00pm EDT

(Reuters) - About 1,000 Turkish students have left home to attend university in Bosnia, attracted by the low cost of living, good food and -- for women -- the right to wear an Islamic headscarf.

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Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan speaks during an opening ceremony at the International University of Sarajevo (IUS) on the outskirts of the Bosnian capital Sarajevo April 5, 2010.
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WORLD

On Monday, Turkish Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan officially opened a new campus of the International University of Sarajevo (IUS) on the outskirts of the Bosnian capital.

"I hope that a cultural bridge will be created at this university that will connect the people and secure peace in the Balkans," he said at the ribbon-cutting ceremony.

Erdogan heads an Islamist-rooted government and his wife wears a headscarf. However, Turkey remains a secular state and women are forbidden to wear headscarves at university there.

In Bosnia no such ban exists, and this is among the reasons that young Turks give for making the relatively short journey to study at one of Sarajevo's three international universities, two of which are Turkish-funded.

Food and finances, close to the hearts of students everywhere, are important to Sarajevo's Turkish students.

"There are a lot of mosques and the food is delicious," said Enes Cici from Istanbul, an engineering student at the IUS. "It's very similar to our own culture."

Economics student Mehmed Guner from Bursa said: "It is more affordable to study here than going to the United States, Canada or any European country, so this was what made me pick it."

Other reasons are peculiar to Turkey, founded in 1923 from the ashes of the Ottoman Empire which once ruled Bosnia. Turkey's military and judiciary now guard its secularism.

"I came here because of a scarf problem," said architecture student Cahide Nur Cunuk, explaining that she could not enroll at any state or private university in Turkey after graduating from an Islamic theological high school.

"We are happy to be here," added her colleague Vildan Mengi. "Bosnians are Muslims and they are similar to us."

RELIGIOUS SUBJECTS

A relatively large proportion of the Turkish students in Sarajevo are women, and most wear headscarves.

They say they cannot enroll at universities in Turkey as they have graduated from theological high schools, the only schools where they could attend classes wearing headscarves.

Many young Turks from religious families attend Islamic secondary schools where 40 percent of the syllabus is devoted to religious subjects, but the rest is for secular topics.

Erdogan was product of this system. A revised system of university credits introduced in the late 1990s has made it hard for pupils of such schools to study non-religious subjects at Turkish universities.

"If the situation in Turkey changed, we would not come to study here," said one woman in a group of headscarved students sitting in a university tea shop. "Bosnian people are more tolerant than Turkish people," she said.

Vildan Mengi said she had three sisters who would also come to Sarajevo if the scarf problem were not resolved. "My mother came to see me here. She saw I am safe," she said.

The IUS is the largest of the three universities that are building what might become the largest complex of private colleges in the region. The other Turkish-funded college is the International Burch University (IBU).

While the IUS was set up by a group of Turkish businessmen and public figures and their Bosnian counterparts, the IBU's founder is the Istanbul-based Foundation of Journalists and Writers, established among others by Turkish preacher Fethullah Gulen.

Followers of Gulen, who has pursued a view that Muslims should not reject modernity but embrace business and the professions, have created a network of private schools and universities across Turkey, the central Asia and the Balkans.

Gulen now lives in self-imposed exile in the United States.

The third university, whose new building in emerging only a few hundred meters away, is the Sarajevo School of Science and Technology, accredited by the British-based Buckingham University.

UNIQUE SITUATION

"This is unique situation to have two Turkish-funded universities in the same area," said IBU Secretary-General Orhan Hadzagic. "This was a pure coincidence," he added, explaining that universities were not linked in any other way.

Bosnia, which like most other Balkan countries had been part of the Ottoman Empire for centuries, has close ties with Turkey. Bosnian Muslims are known as moderate Muslims of Slavic origin, who have turned to the religion in greater numbers only since the 1992-95 war, during which they were the main victims.

Erdogan said at a public debate earlier on Monday: "It does not matter whether we have a shared border or not, I feel this country as the closest neighbor and we will never abandon Bosnia because of our historic responsibility."

The sight of bulldozers and the noise of construction and drilling machines at the foot of nearby Mountain Igman is in stark contrast to many building sites in the capital, where work has stopped since last year because of the recession.

The total investment, estimated roughly at more than 100 million euros ($135 million) once it is completed, would turn Sarajevo into a regional university center and create new revenues for the city, officials say.

"The city of Sarajevo will earn about 35 million euros annually only from the university, which is a large profit," said Alija Rizvanbegovic, one of the founders of the IUS. "We expect that about 600 jobs will be created in the next five years."

Link: http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6343VJ20100405

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i hope they'll do green area just like in the video

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Ovo je prekoputa, moda neki drugi fax ili mozda studentski domovi

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Malo je djidjimidji ta glavna zgrada, ali sve u svemu nije lose..

TZ po stare dane post'o brucos ^^

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TZ po stare dane post'o brucos ^^

Nikad nije kasno poceti. :lol:

Super slike TZ. :okay:

TZ po stare dane post'o brucos ^^

nisam siguran da te razumijem :(

Rijeka Zeljeznica pored fakulteta.

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TZ po stare dane post'o brucos ^^

Aha, kontam. To je Bosanski humor. Malo sam zahrdjo. znaci Fax se zove Bruco ili tako nesto :)

Nikad nije kasno poceti. :lol:

Super slike TZ. :okay:

:) uvjek sam faxove biro po kvalitetu izlaska i piva.

Kolko sam skuzio ovi studenti su velikom vecinom stranci (mozda turci). Petak navecer izlazak im je izgleda setnja muskaraca i cura odvojeno po Ilidzi.

Svaka njima cast sto su oni ovdje. Dabogda i ostali u Bosni.

A da su moji ovdje mene poslali i da mi je takav izlazak bio davno bi ja zavrsio na tavanu.

Aha, kontam. To je Bosanski humor. Malo sam zahrdjo. znaci Fax se zove Bruco ili tako nesto :)

:lol:

Brucos - freshman. ;)

TZ, ovaj u sredini jel to SSST?????

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Sarajevo School of Science and Technology, neznam.

Sta je SSST?

Sarajevo School of Science & Technology (Ganicev) `:)

Sarajevo School of Science & Technology (Ganicev) `:)
zar to nije tvoj "Alma Mater"? ako jeste trebo bi znati gdje je :)

zar to nije tvoj "Alma Mater"? ako jeste trebo bi znati gdje je :)

Pa jeste, ali sam zadnji put vidio zgradu bez fasade kad sam bio, pa zato pitam :lol:

Ako su vec dosli do fasade i napravili ovo ovoliko, mogao sam ja slijedece godine traziti poso´ tamo. :lol:

Pa jeste, ali sam zadnji put vidio zgradu bez fasade kad sam bio, pa zato pitam :lol:

Ako su vec dosli do fasade i napravili ovo ovoliko, mogao sam ja slijedece godine traziti poso´ tamo. :lol:

Bas bi bilo super da jeste onda. super je zgrada. Igelda se isplati imat fax ovdje, a drzavni samo u problemima. zivjela privatizacija. :cheers:

zar to nije tvoj "Alma Mater"? ako jeste trebo bi znati gdje je :)

Otkud ti znas kako se njegova mater zove?!? :lol:

Malo je djidjimidji ta glavna zgrada, ali sve u svemu nije lose..

I ja sam baš to pomislio. Ne bunim se protiv stila, nega samo ove kič izvedbe.

Pogovoto ova plava slova nikakvog smisla nemaju. Hem su nečitka, hem su se sastala sa crvenim linijama, hem im nije ni razmak isti između riječi.

A, ni ovaj tamno sivi portal im neće donijeti nikakvu nagradu za dizajn. Očito su ga se naknadno sjetili, vidi se da su pokrili dva prozora...

:bash:

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super napreduje projekat :)

I ja sam baš to pomislio. Ne bunim se protiv stila, nega samo ove kič izvedbe.

Pogovoto ova plava slova nikakvog smisla nemaju. Hem su nečitka, hem su se sastala sa crvenim linijama, hem im nije ni razmak isti između riječi.

A, ni ovaj tamno sivi portal im neće donijeti nikakvu nagradu za dizajn. Očito su ga se naknadno sjetili, vidi se da su pokrili dva prozora...

:bash:

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Eto to je nas pokusaj neo islamske arhitekture. :( sacuvaj nas boze. Samo nije tolko strasno uzivo. A nije vala bas ni za nagradu.

Ovo je prekoputa, moda neki drugi fax ili mozda studentski domovi

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Ovo je sasvim druga obrazovna ustanova: Burch University

:) uvjek sam faxove biro po kvalitetu izlaska i piva.

Kolko sam skuzio ovi studenti su velikom vecinom stranci (mozda turci). Petak navecer izlazak im je izgleda setnja muskaraca i cura odvojeno po Ilidzi.

Svaka njima cast sto su oni ovdje. Dabogda i ostali u Bosni.

A da su moji ovdje mene poslali i da mi je takav izlazak bio davno bi ja zavrsio na tavanu.

^^^^^^

I ja mislim da je u tom slucaju samoubistvo puno mudriji izbor. :lol:

Salu na stranu, cinjenica je da na skolovanje u Sarajevo i dalje vecimo dolazi konzervativnija turska populacija. Nadam se da ce se to u narednih par godina promijeniti. I da ce vise dolaziti slobodoumne Turkinje:lol:

^^^^^^

I ja mislim da je u tom slucaju samoubistvo puno mudriji izbor. :lol:

Salu na stranu, cinjenica je da na skolovanje u Sarajevo i dalje vecimo dolazi konzervativnija turska populacija. Nadam se da ce se to u narednih par godina promijeniti. I da ce vise dolaziti slobodoumne Turkinje:lol:

bolje reci dolaze Turkinje koje se u Turskoj ne mogu školovati zbog marame

I te naravno, ali nisu jedine.

bolje reci dolaze Turkinje koje se u Turskoj ne mogu školovati zbog marame

promjenjen je taj zakon,tako da se pokrivene djevojke mogu skolovati na univerzitetima,nesmetano..
ovaj internacionalni univerzitet na Ilidzi ima setudente iz 23 zemlje,malo se bolje raspitajte..renutno tu studira oko 5 000 studenata,a imaju cilj dostici brojku od 20 000,zato i grade nove zgrade u sklopu kampusa! Inace grade prelijepe zgrade i imaju ubjedljivo najbolje uslove za studiranje u BIH!

promjenjen je taj zakon,tako da se pokrivene djevojke mogu skolovati na univerzitetima,nesmetano..
ovaj internacionalni univerzitet na Ilidzi ima setudente iz 23 zemlje,malo se bolje raspitajte..renutno tu studira oko 5 000 studenata,a imaju cilj dostici brojku od 20 000,zato i grade nove zgrade u sklopu kampusa! Inace grade prelijepe zgrade i imaju ubjedljivo najbolje uslove za studiranje u BIH!

Kolko ja znam pokusali su da promjene zakon ali nije prosao.

Kolko ja znam pokusali su da promjene zakon ali nije prosao.

Samo bolje za nas, bice jos vise studenata iz TR u BiH :)