Hi ,i cannot find the old thread , so that's another with full details

If its height of 318 m is confirmed (unofficial , officials says mini 300m) , that tower would become the highest of Western Europe or EU .

currently status is APPROVED
demolition of the current lowrise is to begin mid 2009


Renders :

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/232/443985630_41e84b734a_o.jpg

http://www.linternaute.com/savoir/la-tour-generali/image/10008.jpg
http://www.defense-92.fr/photos/generali3.jpg
http://www.defense-92.fr/photos/generali2.jpg
http://www.linternaute.com/savoir/la-tour-generali/image/10003.jpg
skyline
http://www.defense-92.fr/photos/ph2339.jpg
http://www.defense-92.fr/photos/ph2340.jpg
inside
http://www.defense-92.fr/photos/generali4.jpg
http://www.defense-92.fr/photos/ph1201.jpg

Video
Video link (http://www.immotele.net/Recherche/generali-1-23j.htm)
(in french , Generali official speaking , Generali tower begin at 1"19)

i feel it well , and you ?

wow, I must say, I REALLY don't care for the look of that building. Especially not for Paris, and especially not for what will be one of the tallest and most visible structures in the city for a long time to come.

great addition to the skyline of La Defense :)

i feel it well , and you ?

Sorry to get off topic but that cracked me up big time, man!

could you , please , give your impressions about the building design ?

i don't understand you brunob.

I'm still giggling nervously about what you said. But enough of that!

I'm one of those who really didn't like the tower as the sketchy design got revealed nor was I impressed with the broken spikes on top of it.
I somewhat changed my mind as it dawned on me that even though this may not have been the idea being the concept, this is The skyscraper per se - as in visually speaking of the tower, it really does scrapes the sky. I think one either gets it or not but I now do and appreciate the building more and more.

Thanks for giving us your feeling about it ;)

But i still don't understand why you are giggling nervously about what i said.

Damn, that looks pretty awful. :(

It's a pitty... La Défense is messing up its skyline with awful towers. Tour Phare is weird enough, and now they add this crazy thing...

it looks like an actual solid glass crystal that used to be taller but then got smashed, now in its current state.

Nice tower.

wow!! i love the top! i wish the tower is slimmer (or taller)though...the spikes look to big for the building

I like that its approved, i just dont like the design, its just.. idk, i dont like it

This building is really ugly (no offence lol) Is that the cirque du soleil circus tent on top of that mangled structure.

Definately one of the best skyscraper proposals not only for Paris but the whole Europe.
This tower is unique!!!

any new commer is interesting but ..it's only approved ..so if it's not in construction what is it doing here.???:bash:
We need much taller buikdings in europe...not just some 300m tall...:ohno:
how about a 1km tall that would be interesting....:cheers:

i do not like the design

Hmmm the intentions are good and it will be high for paris but the design man.
It looks like it was snapped in two :S

It would make more sense iff it was a twin tower off each being 315 Meters
to make it seem logical to normal people`s eyes. A normal average person on the streets is realy getting questioned by this snapped design.

And you must consider that this is the heighest off Paris so everybody will look at it and make jokes about it.

Typical example off non communication between architect and the avarege street person.

Don't think Paris should build such high towers. The Eiffel Tower should be the tallest monument in the city.

It's the same as in Munich. Tall towers don't go!!

this tower is not in "paris", it's in la défense, 5km far from the eiffel tower, so there's no problem to me!

It's a boring design for you .

I love it , and i'm not the only one !

fantastic building. western europe couldn't have a better tallest :cheers:

very tall, but i don't like the design

I like it!

^^ me too :)

two pics made by Faragord from PSS (http://www.paris-skyscrapers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=27170&p=40)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/187/425710455_393b6184e2_o.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/180/425710666_1dbf8cb882_o.jpg

nice height for paris, but the roof structure is awful !

You are so conservative , do you want a flat roof again like 90% of La Defense ?

I dont want it anymore and all of the new projects will have a inclined / special roof

Generali in the La Defense renewal Plan :

http://grrroux.free.fr/misc/bleu_vert.JPG

Thank you for this thread, Densaga!

For my part, I like this tower. :) His design, although simple, is magnificiently emphasized by the cladding and the top. The top makes this tower dynamic, slim towards the sky! This a "signal" to the 21th century.
For the height, we will see... IMO, it will be 318m, but... we will see, lol.

I can understand why you have enough of flat roofs, but this is really the opposite of that. I think its just too much, but who knows? maybe in real life it will look fantastic

This tower is so different ! I think that it will be well integrated in la Defense. I like the idea of broken crystal. :|

i love the huge crhistmas tree at the top. :jk:


I really like the design. :)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/180/425710666_1dbf8cb882_o.jpg


I always thought the spire would have a round shape instad of a square one.

paris la defense will certainly change dramatically over the next few years - love that new proposal (tour air-something)

It looks alright I guess, not entirely sold on the top of it though.

I love this tower. It's very bold and unique, but IMO, it's not trying to be too modern or tacky like many of the Scandinavian towers are. It motivated this long time lurker to register as I think it's taking some unnecessary flak. If this was built in place of the new version of the Chicago Spire I doubt there'd be any complaints. This is my second favorite tower behind the Burj Dubai.

Good job Paris.... from an American, a Texan in fact. :eek: :cheers:

Ok, I'll take that personnally. Thanks for the compliment :P.

Ok, ok i admit it. The building looks decent but they need to make a twin off it!!!!!!! It is then logical for the average street person: One tall building "snapped" into two buildings.

The building looks good from my point of view I dont understand why it would need a twin tower

Didn't like it at all at first, but now I think it's ok.
But I still like the other projects in La Defense much better.

Here are diagrams that I posted a few months ago in the old thread now superceded by this thread.

These diagrams show the height of the Generali Tower among the tallest skyscrapers in some well known world cities.

Generali Tower among the top 8 skyscrapers of New York City:
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/1130/gennycoq3.png

Generali Tower among the top 6 skyscrapers of Hong Kong:
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/4977/genhkwf9.png

Generali Tower among the top 6 skyscrapers of Tokyo:
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/4820/gentkywe0.png

Couple more views of the tower from the old thread.

http://perso.numericable.fr/ydelavau/ykld/signal_jour.jpg

http://perso.numericable.fr/ydelavau/ykld/signal_a.jpg

http://perso.numericable.fr/ydelavau/ykld/signal_b.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/122/292119831_4be6cc92ff_o.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/110/292119806_4766e4d6cc_o.jpg

I'm liking this tower more and more.

La Défense is amazing!

http://www.defense-92.fr/photos/generali5.jpg

I really love this tower for some reason. It definitely seems dwarfed in the diagram of Hong Kong, and even New York but I think it will fit in well in La Defance. Also I never understood why Tokyo never had more supertalls, especially with such high land values in the early 90's.

seeing this in la defense is going to be stunning.

however I think there is a lot going on at the top, personally enjoy a nice centered spire without the glass shards. but altogether a nice design, its obvious they are symbolizing the BREAKING of old traditions with this tall and modern building.

I like this tower, I hope the build it. It would look veru nice in Paris.

http://grrroux.free.fr/misc/gen_mur.JPG

After some second thoughts, this building is gonna fit the skyline just ass well ass other buildings do.
Bit weird but it is ok.

Nice modern tower

This tower is dam pretty! Well done Paris :okay: It'll redefine LD's skyline and it gonna make it more modern and attractive :)

Great design, I like it a lot. :)

Well Paris will sooner or later have to adapt to a modern skyline and modern architecture

http://pix.nofrag.com/18/42/47b5da6fa34b2b10d3ffad469224t2.jpg (http://pix.nofrag.com/18/42/47b5da6fa34b2b10d3ffad469224.html)

so it will be a pyramid and not a cone on top

its interesting, especially in the context of the rest of the defense
also of note, looks like something you could pick up and stab the tour phare with..haha

donc ce sera bel et bien une pyramide et non pas un cone
Yes, according to the render above, the central spire will be in the shape of a pyramid. According to the architects, the design of the central spire is meant to be reminiscent of the Eiffel Tower. 18 wind turbines will be located in the spire. These will be 5 meters (16 ft) high and 3 meters (10 ft) in diameter. They will produce a total of 270,000 kWh of electricity per year which will be used to light common areas, corridors, rest rooms, and basement levels. Here is a detailed view of the wind turbines which you can also see in the picture posted by Densaga above.

http://pix.nofrag.com/00/10/b2d4b22067c94f3c0e1ba61d1010.jpg

This skyscraper will set a world precedent in that it will not rest on a central core but rather on a lace of reinforced concrete located outside the exterior walls of the tower. This lace will be made up of 140,000 metric tonnes (154,000 US tons) of concrete. Here is a detailed view of the base of the tower showing the concrete lace.

http://pix.nofrag.com/62/f2/25680c009c8cbb787d50bfae4abd.jpg

Cool tower! La Defense is definately the best business district in all of Europe.

Just what Paris is missing....awesome tower!

I really like it, La Defense needs towers like that.

It is better like this :)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/232/443985630_41e84b734a_o.jpg

WOW! Very nice! Love the trees. We need more of this sort of thing.

so it will generate some of its own power thats pretty cool I wish all buildings would do that

Eco-towers are awesome.

I like the design, but leave it to the french to have trees coming out the sides of a skyscraper.
I loathe how that looks.

very nice project..........

Congrats Paris with that first supertall

Nice design

weird top.. but unique.. but fat :)

These are renderings of Christian de Portzamparc's project for the Generali Tower. His project wasn't selected, and it's Valode & Pistre's project, with the central spire, that was selected instead.

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/2213/m1mq7.jpg

http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/8149/m2de8.jpg

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/8504/m3sa8.jpg

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/7273/m4hr1.jpg

Portzamparc's project was good,but I prefer the chosen one.Maybe this proposal would fit well as a neighbor for Tour Granite,Tour Granite II :nuts:

These are renderings of Christian de Portzamparc's project for the Generali Tower. His project wasn't selected, and it's Valode & Pistre's project, with the central spire, that was selected instead.

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/2213/m1mq7.jpg

http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/8149/m2de8.jpg

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/8504/m3sa8.jpg

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/7273/m4hr1.jpg
you got them on portzamparc's website ?
i can't find them ...

However , i like this building , too bad it will never get constructed

I don't like it :(

Yeahh a great new tower for Paris, this will make La Defense a damn hot place. I hope to see some more projects in La Defense soon. 300+ please:D

Looks like something from Paris...whispy, frail and uncommitted. Other than that, I still don't like it.

What do you call someone who jumps into the river in Paris?
In Seine.:nuts:

Portzamparc's design would have been great for La Defense, though I like the current project as well, especially that the top is a pyramid instead of a cone.

I like the design, very unique. Great project.

i really dont care for this building....its all wrong for tha city...needs something classer...that dosent say fugly all over it...honestly didnt know Paris had a decent skyline...6.5/10

Strange, I Don´t know if I like it. But La Defense skyline is old-fashionated. Though, its better than nothing!

New picture of the entrance of the tower, and some pictures already seen but in a much larger format this time.

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/5430/artimg4822vn4.jpg

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/1849/artimg4823zoomef8.jpg

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/3993/artimg4824zoomvo4.jpg

I like this design, it breaks the monotony of La Defense, change from all those flat tops. The other design was nice too but it was a another monolithic building amongst many slabs.

I actually quite like La defense, the buildings are clean and the glassy facades make it more futuristic, a break with the rest of Parisian architecture.

This new project will give it another point of interest, especially being eco- orientated.

That proposal for this project is kinda cool, but i much prefer the V&P's one :cheers:

When it's scheduled to start the works?

When it's scheduled to start the works?
Next year I believe.

im british, and i like it!

I like both projects...very much.... i ts true that it kinda make la défense much less flat, which make sit nicer. I hope they could use the other project for ld though... perhaps for Tour Signal???

btw, i love that 'in seine' joke, i laugh my head off!!!! lol

Nice tower! But I thought that half of the buildings of La Defence were almost empty. Is it true or not?

No ground-breakings ??? yet the shoul have started them allready where they gonna start building if there is no hole ?? so I thinck they have allready begun with the initial ground-breakings !! No pictures from the site ???/

@Stroller : where did oyu hear that ? the vacancy rate in La Défense is around 5 or 6%.

@giovani kun:the project is very recent, the demolition of the current building should start before the end of the year, and the construction of the tower is supposed to start in fall 2008.

Skyline overview with Generali Tower and AXA tower , by JP

http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/7572/essai2pq7.jpg
http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/7421/essai3xo6.jpg

^^ That's with a camera zoom isn't it?

Yes without it you can't see the skyscrapers like this.
Actually la Defense is at 6 km of this place. :yes:

Yes without it you can't see the skyscrapers like this.
You can still see them, not as close as on that picture, but you can still see them. Today I was in the bus on rue de Rivoli near Chatelet, in the heart of the medieval center of Paris, a good 8 km. (5 miles) from La Défense, and yet the skyscrapers were clearly visible in the horizon of the street. I was trying to imagine how it would look when they build the Generali Tower and the new Axa Tower, which will be both just in the horizon of the rue de Rivoli. It will be quite an impressive view I reckon.

This is what I mean. Here these roller bladers are on rue de Rivoli very near Chatelet, and you can still see the skyscrapers of La Défense in the end of the street, 5 miles in the distance.

http://amphi-gouri.org/photos/20010902roller/640x480/IMG_2697-r.jpg

On that one too. The building on the left is the Louvre Museum. The Generali Tower will stand exactly in the end of the street, about two-third taller than the towers you can see in the distance.

http://www.francebalade.com/paris/ruerivolilouvre.jpg

http://irgendwo.free.fr/essai4.jpg

http://irgendwo.free.fr/essaic.jpg

http://irgendwo.free.fr/essai2c.jpg

^^ Great renders :) nice one.

Ok, It will be a landmark.. but the quality of the design, IMO, It's not good enough for Paris! :(

top part looks weird

That's not ugly. The top looks modern and nice. It's like shattered glass at the top of it. At last Paris seems to build some new towers. The old ones looks, well, old. Except the beautiful Tours Société Générale, which I believe they're gonna ruin with a new tower.

i said weird and not ugly ^^

http://irgendwo.free.fr/essai4.jpg

http://irgendwo.free.fr/essaic.jpg

http://irgendwo.free.fr/essai2c.jpg

OMFG :master:

Thanks for your great renderings JP. :)

http://irgendwo.free.fr/essai2c.jpgThis image particularly shows how our perception of La Défense will totally change. From an aging district, it will become a palpitating vision of the Paris of the 21st century.

Actually, more than simply the image of La Défense, I even wonder if it's not the whole image of Paris as a whole which will be changed.

hmmm, I really don't like the top.

the design is ok...

Im sorry, but i think this design is terrible for a city like paris....it might look ok in Dubai or China where it would be just one of many awful looking towers, but in Paris it will stick out like a sore thumb.

looks like an Arab sheik's vanity project.

Quite near to Phare Tower, isn't it? I think the element that saves the tower's identity is the strange top. Without it, the tower is common.

i like the tower. but im not sure it fits into its surroundings. nice top though, its like a split shard of crystal. :)

not bad

Quite near to Phare Tower, isn't it?
Generali Tower is to the right, and tour Phare is to the left. The tower to the left of tour Phare is the so-called tour Signal skyscraper whose design is still unknown.

http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/3686/defensemoidh3.jpg

:omg: Saw this the first time. This tower looks so great.

I like... 8/10

http://www.linternaute.com/savoir/la-tour-generali/image/10003.jpg

I love this view http://www.skyscrapercity.com/images/icons/icon14.gif

Nice render

Im sorry, but i think this design is terrible for a city like paris....it might look ok in Dubai or China where it would be just one of many awful looking towers, but in Paris it will stick out like a sore thumb.

I agree!

Is this one finished??

it has simmilarities with the dubai islamic bank towers in difc.

BTW crazymac what designs are good for you what type of bldg do you prefer????

I dont like it.
It looks threatening somehow and it doesnt fit into the skyline

Is this one finished??

it has simmilarities with the dubai islamic bank towers in difc.

BTW crazymac what designs are good for you what type of bldg do you prefer????

No it's not finished just approved it will take some time until it will be finished :)

No it's not finished just approved it will take some time until it will be finished :)
Work on this tower will start in Sept.-Oct. 2008 according to what I read in an article recently. The tower is due to be completed and opened in 2011.

i like much

I still insist that this building's top is a comic razzmatazz fit for a Parisian cirque de soleil. Send in the clowns!

Wow! Very eastern European looking, great job :okay:

générali tower in the skyline of La Défense by 2012~2013, it's the second highest tower on the left...

original photography by Cyril (french forumer)

http://m1.freeshare.us/151fs227614.jpg

Nice high, but I don't really like it. Desolé!

Looks not so high

I really like the design of this tower, especially the top. Tower gives me a feeling of elegance, wellfare and luxe.

Looks not so high

because 318m is not that tall and the tower is not thin.....more fat

one small new render

http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/5821/gnrali2vx1.jpg

nice rendering!!^^

I love la defense.. but I don't like this tower
beautiful pic

^^ agreed great photo, or hopefully soon to be

The tower will replace a lowrise building named Immeuble Iris, built 1983.

getting confused on the shape of the spire.. is it a CONE or PYRAMID?

It is a pyramid.

getting confused on the shape of the spire.. is it a CONE or PYRAMID?

I'd like it much more without the cone/pyramid, I think it throws the idea of the tower itself off, Better with nothing or maybe smaller antennas on the corners or something, but the "pyramid" looks to me like an obvious afterthought.

I don't think this building fit's well in Paris.
I don't like the point on top of it. And it's gonna be visible from the entire city. Really bad design.

even if the design isnt the best I like this one cos la defence really needs some tall towers ...

I don't like the top of this building.

I have a good feeling about it. Very sensitive.

http://grandparis.free.fr/generali_immotele_small.jpg

interesting project...will be nice too see how it looks in reality!

nice height addition to le defense, but don't like the top

Is it really going to be green at night? Or is that for dramatic effect?

This building is really ugly (no offence lol) Is that the cirque du soleil circus tent on top of that mangled structure.

I agree.. Very ugly structure.. :ohno:

A rendering of Generalli tower posted by JR Lyon

http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff161/Grandpalais/mat8018.jpg?t=1195310303

It wouldn’t look that bad if it didn’t have that cone thing in the middle

^^ that cone thing is for green energy:) that's what more towers should have

^^ And that cone thing is a pyramid.

i like it..will be a great addition to LD

Skyline

by dalco

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/4886/30281180yy6.jpg

very nice.

The last picture ^^ is super nice!

great shot, the tower fits perfect in the Skyline of La Defense :)

Building will be fine.thats the LD skyline when?

Building will fone.thats the LD skyline when?


around 2012

Awesome project !!!

tah for that

Getting a pretty futuristic skyline.

^^it will be the best skyline in Europe I think..

agree. if not one of the best skylines in the world.

Demolition of the current lowrise is on the way ^^
http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/2165/spa0766nk3.jpg
(pic by Mohamed6)

This pic of the Skyline is superb!

looks like a broken bottle of wine but still cool:okay:

Doesn't look too bad, but why did they have to hide it behind the other tower? They should give more consideration to the entire skyline of La Défense and the view people will have from the Arc de Triomphe side of the city.

Doesn't look too bad, but why did they have to hide it behind the other tower? They should give more consideration to the entire skyline of La Défense and the view people will have from the Arc de Triomphe side of the city.


It is only one project and others skyscrapers will be made till 2015. Maybe it is made here because of them.

Projects by Metropolitan- Forum francophone (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=377560&page=37#722)


They maybe give more consideration to the entire skyline of LD from the eiffel tower. who knows ?


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/oc/thumb/0/08/Generali3.jpg/950px-Generali3.jpg

Pics from Brisavoine -Forum francophone (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=397877&page=7#123)

You can see Generali as well :)

^^ The tallest tower on the pic, is it the mysterious Tour Signal?

Tour Generali is at the moment one of my favourite skyscrapers to be build in Europe. Together with other new "tours" it will transform the skyline of La Défense dramatically. :cheers:

^^ The tallest tower on the pic, is it the mysterious Tour Signal?

Yes it is. We have for the moment no idea about the design of this tower. Nethertheless the president of the EPAD (organisation who rules LD) said about one week ago that several projects of the contest for the signal tower will have got a futur. It looks good ! :)

Tour Generali is at the moment one of my favourite skyscrapers to be build in Europe.

I don't share your POV. I like this tower but I prefer the ones the russian are making in Moscow.


Together with other new "tours" it will transform the skyline of La Défense dramatically. :cheers:

Yes, and you can add other skyscrapers. There will be in 2015 3 skyscrapers of 300 meters at least, and it's a minimum. The oldest buillding in LD will be changed.... yes this skyline will dramatically change !


excuse me I have to :banana:



:lol:

^^ The tallest tower on the pic, is it the mysterious Tour Signal?


That's most likely, we've been showed rejected project for the tower so far and they seem to be much more than 300m. However, I wouldn't bet on a 400m tower...

That's most likely, we've been showed rejected project for the tower so far and they seem to be much more than 300m. However, I wouldn't bet on a 400m tower...

nor me, 400m is just a dream..... :ohno:

why dream? these towers will be real in the future :D

slight redesign

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/3211/newbeurkgnralipi9.jpg

reminds me of rectangular cheese holes. imo it was better without it

very odd building i don't like this tower but maybe once in construction it would probably grow on me but i don't think it fits in well with skyline

why dream? these towers will be real in the future :D


In a very far future so...

slight redesign

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/3211/newbeurkgnralipi9.jpg

for a tower that's already just too much to handle, these new additions just seem flagrantly unnecessary.

talk about making an already awful tower even worse

talk about making an already awful tower even worse

I Shouldnt worry about it, the chances of it actually being built, along with the other 300m tower, are pretty slim, at least in the short-medium term.

Without pre-lets, LD cant justify building 600m of new office space.

^^ Of course it can, a third 300m and maybe a fourth 300m towers are planned.
Every new m² are already pre-lets.

I really think that you underate Paris.
the third city in the world in term of office space and even being third Paris lacks of offices.

slight redesign

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/3211/newbeurkgnralipi9.jpg

Kitsch. Awful. Not worthy of Paris elegance.

double post

Which version of the Generali Tower do you like the best ?
The left one or the right one ?

http://grandparis.free.fr/petitplaisir3.jpg ... http://grandparis.free.fr/generali-not-modified_small.jpg

Which version of the Generali Tower do you like the best ?
The left one or the right one ?

http://grandparis.free.fr/petitplaisir3.jpg ... http://grandparis.free.fr/generali-not-modified_small.jpg

definetily the left one..i don't like the green glass very much,but the blue facade will look really good in the future LD skyline i think

definetily the left one..i don't like the green glass very much,but the blue facade will look really good in the future LD skyline i thinkYeah, well, I'm not a fan of the green too. Anyway, the colour of the cladding isn't the only difference between both versions. The right one has straight façades from the ground to the top, whereas the left one has multi-layered façades with shapes reminding leafs or petals of a flower.

No one else has an opinion on this ?

http://grandparis.free.fr/petitplaisir3.jpg ... http://grandparis.free.fr/generali-not-modified_small.jpg

i like the blue more, green doesn't fit on this tower IMO

No one else has an opinion on this ?

http://grandparis.free.fr/petitplaisir3.jpg ... http://grandparis.free.fr/generali-not-modified_small.jpg

Why....theres no demand for the building....construction is years away, if at all.

The building is alright but the top of it ... I don't know... I find it quite hard to digest , nevermind about the color, please redesign the TOP

Here we can compare better the differences in design between both versions as they share the same cladding colour. Sorry if the images are big.

http://grandparis.free.fr/generali_modified.jpg ... http://grandparis.free.fr/generali-not-modified.jpg

The blue version of the new design is fantastic.

the new version is more interesting. looks a bit like a flower

Metropolitan, tu les as trouvé où ces différents rendus ?
I prefer the blue version shape. It's like a flower. But green color is better for me.


http://grandparis.free.fr/generali_modified.jpg

Metropolitan, tu les as trouvé où ces différents rendus ?
I prefer the blue version shape. It's like a flower. But green color is better for me.


http://grandparis.free.fr/generali_modified.jpgActually, I didn't find it... I actually drawn the new shape by myself. The thing is I'm convinced the problem with Generali is about a too strong rupture between a very simplistic shape on the main body and a very extravagant shape at the summit. I thought that in continuing the lines drawn by the pikes all over the tower, it could integrate them better to the structure and make the tower more elegant.

I was just curious about others opinion and that's the reason why I posted it here. Unfortunatly, this is more a fantasy version than anything else.

Great job !!


The thing is I'm convinced the problem with Generali is about a too strong rupture between a very simplistic shape on the main body and a very extravagant shape at the summit.
You're right. The shape is coherent with yours renders. Otherwise, i think the roof is incoherent with the shape of tower.

I was just curious about others opinion and that's the reason why I posted it here. Unfortunatly, this is more a fantasy version than anything else
It's a chame. Have you shown yours renders to project's architect or to EPAD ?

The blue version is kinda better than that bland green facade.

The blue one seems much better!

The blue version is clearly better than the green one.

green

Why....theres no demand for the building....construction is years away, if at all.

Yeah very interesting opinion.

it's great but for paris?

Too many people here

Here is a video introducing the project :

link (http://l.vicidomini.free.fr/blogpro/?p=55)

(In french)

Sorry to say but this design looks not good =/

ive come to like this building, when i first saw the renders i thought it looked horrid, but i think its really nice.

I agree. We must wait his construction to sit in judgment on his disagn.
But I think it will be not so horrible.

Why....theres no demand for the building....construction is years away, if at all.

I am not a fan of this tower so I wouldn't regret.
It would look better if they put the 4 'points' at the corners into the middle with the slopes outward.
It would create a bank of America like roof, looking different from avery angle.

Why....theres no demand for the building....construction is years away, if at all.


why no demand?

There is demand, but Crazymac love to underrate Paris. :|

People seems to dislike this tower.

Metropolitan rendering show how easy it is to enhance such a poor design. He should have been hired instead of the architectcs! :D

I think the most important point about this building is the fact that it may probably be the tallest green skyscraper in the world. Many had complained about the top, but I believe it should be mentioned again that the sharp mast on the top houses the wind turbines which generate additional electricity, and that is the most efficient place to have the generators put.

This is a nice step towards environmental sustainability - a key issue as humans step into the "Age of Global Warming" lol

The design is very interesting.

But it's gonna be the jewel of La Defense....:D

Terrible design imo :ohno:

New HD renders

Description page (http://www.worldarchitecturenews.com/index.php?fuseaction=wanappln.projectview&upload_id=10378) (in english)

http://www.worldarchitecturenews.com/news_images/10378_3_generali4big.jpg
http://www.worldarchitecturenews.com/news_images/10378_2_generali3big.jpg
http://www.worldarchitecturenews.com/news_images/10378_4_generali2big.jpg
http://www.worldarchitecturenews.com/news_images/10378_5_Generali5big.jpg
http://www.worldarchitecturenews.com/news_images/10378_6_Generali6big.jpg

I love the design,but its 300 metres isn't it,or is just 318 to the spire?

Nice design, but the spire is ugly!!!! ^^

:cheers:

i personally like it
its different
and its green, too!

I love the design,but its 300 metres isn't it,or is just 318 to the spire?

It's 318 m to the highest spire, and ca. 220m to the main roof, look here:http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=56431

The spire is kind of the best part of this tower actually.

It's 318 m to the highest spire
Wrong.
300m (tip of the spire) above the boulevard. (337,5 NGF)

The design is good, i would say nice... but i dont like the top of the tower :ohno:

My opinion about the top of the tower...
http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo124/chris-the-007/Generalitower.jpg

Any news about this project? The newspaper "Métro" wrote about how most projects at La Défense will be postponed, maybe even cancelled.

This project got his money stored so there is no problem about it.

Demolition of the current lowrise is expected early 2009 .

This tower is indeed very green. Basing on the night renderings, its green brightness will allow the western half of the city to switch off the light.

It's a special structure:D

The structure is really beautiful for an european skyscraper it is not usual!

The Construction permit has been released : official height is 308 meters . current lowrise is empty and demolition would follow this year .

I like this tower, though I think that it would look better without the green lighting. It seems to be just a little too flamboyant, especially compared to the drabber buildings in La Defense.

:booze:look fun

WHAT THE HELL THIS TOWER IS FRIGEN AWESOME

The Construction permit has been released : official height is 308 meters . current lowrise is empty and demolition would follow this year .

I don't understand this? At first we were told 300m, then 318m, now 308m? Is the 308m measured from the concrete slab?

It's worse than the Heron Tower;)

What is the low rise that is being demolished?

I don't understand this? At first we were told 300m, then 318m, now 308m? Is the 308m measured from the concrete slab?

It's worse than the Heron Tower;)

Okay then , a little history & summary :

Official documents always referred about a ~300 meters tower without any precise height indicated.
Some fans and french forum users analysed plans of the tower and concluded about an height of 318m but it has never been official.
So , with the project moving forward we finally have an official building permit sticked to the lowrise , and we have the final height of 307.7m
http://grrroux.free.fr/misc/generali_pc.jpg
(Thanks to Krapulax for the picture)



Moreover , the project has much evolved during the last year.

What is the low rise that is being demolished?

this one :
http://www.defense-92.com/liste/Photos/IMGP5315.jpg
http://www.defense-92.com/liste/Photos/IMG_1861a2-(14).jpg
http://pix.nofrag.com/c6/b8/a39df5112586f33334bcf8c6a302.jpeg


Very Hi-Res render there (http://www.defense-92.com/photos/112-01-Tour-Generali-V6-vue-03-12.jpg)
Second one (http://www.defense-92.com/photos/112-01-Tour-Generali-V6-vue-ArcHaute-01.jpg)

Looks like a broken building

^^^

i agree

Okay then , a little history & summary :

Official documents always referred about a ~300 meters tower without any precise height indicated.
Some fans and french forum users analysed plans of the tower and concluded about an height of 318m but it has never been official.
So , with the project moving forward we finally have an official building permit sticked to the lowrise , and we have the final height of 307.7m


Cheers for that Densaga. Much clearer. Some projects get pretty hard to keep track of with the different numbers coming at you. Just look at the Heron Tower:lol:

http://grrroux.free.fr/misc/generali_pc.jpg

The building permit for the Generali Tower was posted on site and demolition of the building is to start in May.

Not such a "best skyscraper" but produces a great and impressive impact on the skyline which is cool !

this will by another reason to visit Paris!

i like the building that will be demolished, but the proyect is an icon

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d107/Vincentthomas/Album%202/112-01-Tour-Generali-V6-vue-base-04.jpg

Won't be iconic nor fantastic but still a good addition IMO

That annex at the base doesn't seem to fit very well with the rest of the building :|

I really like the design of this tower. I think it is very unique tower. Get this sexy tower built! :)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2035/3545826775_e3ea196627_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3644/3546633674_e81ef5840f_o.jpg
Pictures by bnmaddict

I love this tower!

i want to say.the top's ugly.i dont like it.

Stunning design. One of my favourites, alongside the Shanghai Tower

So any news about this tower? This project is dragging its feet for years.

No news... but the building which has to be demolished is still here :

http://www.defense-92.com/generalilesphotos.html

http://www.defense-92.com/photos/ph6760.jpg

I was browsing SSP and found this:

NEW RENDERINGS FOR THE TOWER GENERALI.THE BIG SPIRE ON TOP WITH EVERY WINDTURBINES IS CANCELLED.NOW A NEW PROJECT.NEW CLADDING TOO.

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/2215/1281604z.jpg

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/2739/1281603z.jpg

http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/3977/1281602z.jpg

http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/7094/1281601z.jpg

Is it still 318m?

Those new renders look minging! Probably cost cutting measures brought in but they haven't improved the aesthetics at all!

I was browsing SSP and found this:



Is it still 318m?

I reckon not, looks like it has a lot less soar...

I was never that impressed with this tower before, but now...

Even if it is a supertall still, with signal's situation, Parisians had better pray that phare and hermatige will deliver the goods, or else what was looking like a pretty decent skyline might end up looking a tad dumbed down...still cool tho :)

Those new renders look minging! Probably cost cutting measures brought in but they haven't improved the aesthetics at all!

Eurgh i kno! The cladding! :puke:

That was the best bit of the old design, and also the spikes at the top (which tbh i didnt like all that much) look like they've been lopped off so that they are around the same size, which means they are no longer a striking part of the desgin. The building now looks kinda stumpy and squat on the skyline. Things have gone from bad to worse with generali! :ohno: