:| A glass cube? That is really kinda boring!!!! :eek:

looks good IMO, and at least it is a new highrise :cheers:

Yes, but for Eschborn, that's what sucks! :D

ugly box.

ja, i hate this kind of facade. it looks like 10 stories.

New office building for the Deutsche Börse AG in Eschborn (Frankfurt metro). Construction should start this year.

Height just below 100m
20 floors
53,000 sqm
construction start: fall 2008
finished: summer 2010
architect: KSP Engel und Zimmermann


http://www.faz.net/m/%7BEEDCF5B0-6A57-4B9A-B1A7-A7129A89179D%7DPicture.jpg

http://www.faz.net/s/Rub8D05117E1AC946F5BB438374CCC294CC/Doc~EFA32066E482B49F8BAE1B940B8620784~ATpl~Ecommon~Scontent.html

Rotterdam is also building a glass cube, but much better!

http://www.archined.nl/archined/uploads/pics/OMAkubus3.jpg

Yes, the Rotterdam one is more spectacular. But then keep in mind that the Frankfurt cube will be built in a suburban business park and not in the city center.

Really nice!

that's going to be one fat bastard

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/6207/dbbj7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

source: KSP Engel & Zimmermann

FANTASTIC

Any news on the arena?

http://www.faz.net/m/%7B37AECC77-C5E4-4879-93F1-E374B3457F5A%7DPicture.jpg

some news:

- T185 | 185m | 50fl | App (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=505636): construction is about to start - the site is cleared, first construction machines arrived


- Skyline Plaza | 212m | 52 fl | 160m | 40 fl | App (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=480449): the project got the green light. construction can start now. the project has been extended by a new congress center, which will be built simultaneously.

that's going to be one fat bastard

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/6207/dbbj7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

source: KSP Engel & Zimmermannlooks very nice!! just wish it was a bit taller...

looks very nice!! just wish it was a bit taller...

No way! It will be built in a 60.000 inhabitants village outside of Frankfurt! If it was taller, then please INSIDE the boundaries of Frankfurt city! :lol: ;)

actually eschborn only has 20,000 people ;)

100m is ok, I think. it will be the tallest there. and it will be the fattest tower of all ...

some news:

- T185 | 185m | 50fl | App (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=505636): construction is about to start - the site is cleared, first construction machines arrived


- Skyline Plaza | 212m | 52 fl | 160m | 40 fl | App (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=480449): the project got the green light. construction can start now. the project has been extended by a new congress center, which will be built simultaneously.

Great news.
I hope the ECB headquarter will be build, too.

I am always pessimistic but if they really building all the towers that are seriously planed Frankfurt will boom again and the skyline will have a massive change.

and i hope they'll add tower one and MT in the near future to the skyline plaza :)

looks very nice!! just wish it was a bit taller...

i wish it had a girlfriend, it could call 'er

and i hope they'll add tower one and MT in the near future to the skyline plaza :)

Wasn't MT delayed to after 2010? Building this before the construction of the Skyline Plaza or even simultaneously would make the whole building site somewhat chaotic!

of course the MT won't be build before 2010, but at least some news would be great :), just to know they're still working on it!

Vivico still did not resist! :D But in the Skyline Plaza there will be tower One with 212m and the Grand Hyatt 5 star+ hotle with 165m... This is already a lot to be built. At first I feared Tower One would die also. But Vivico and ECE both included it once again into the project. But I am curious to see Grand Hyatt's future design next month!!!!

CHICAGO -- Affiliates of Global Hyatt Corporation today announced the signing of an agreement with Vivico Real Estate GmbH to operate a new 405-room Grand Hyatt in Frankfurt. Slated to open in 2011, the hotel will be part of a 541-foot (165 meter) tower featuring a modern and stylish design. It will be part of the "Europaviertel" in Frankfurt, currently being developed as Germany's largest urban development project.

The facilities at Grand Hyatt Frankfurt will include a wide selection of restaurants and bars and a 10,765 square foot (1,000 square meter) fitness center and spa. The hotel will also offer 26,910 square feet (2,500 square meters) of extensive meeting and banqueting space with advanced technological features.

The hotel will be conveniently situated only minutes from the city's banking district, the Frankfurt fairgrounds and the main train station. Frankfurt International Airport is just a 15-minute drive from the development.

Grand Hyatt Frankfurt will be the second Grand Hyatt hotel in Germany, following Grand Hyatt Berlin which opened in 1998, and Hyatt's sixth property in Germany.

"We are delighted that Hyatt has been appointed to manage this hotel at the important finance and trading center of Frankfurt," said Gebhard Rainer, managing director, Hyatt Hotels & Resorts, Europe, Africa, Middle East. "Hyatt will bring a creative and innovative approach to the room and restaurant design of Grand Hyatt Frankfurt, and the hotel will further enhance our position in the market. This project is a perfect match for the vibrant city of Frankfurt, complementing Hyatt's individually unique and successful German hotels: Hyatt Regency Cologne, Park Hyatt Hamburg, Grand Hyatt Berlin, Hyatt Regency Mainz and soon, Hyatt Regency Dusseldorf."

About Vivico

Vivico is a company specialising in the realisation of urban development projects on former rail sites. It covers the entire value chain in property investment. Vivico's property services include portfolio management, development and trading. The Vivico portfolio consists of valuable real estate and sites in Germany's major conurbations and covers an area of around 2,000 acres (8 million square meters), including landmark buildings such as the Roemische Hof([R]) and RheinTriadem([R]). Vivico has extensive know-how in the transformation of previously industrial inner-city real estate and specialises in the development of mixed-use districts in major urban centres. Examples include the Arnulfpark([R]) in Munich, the Europaviertel in Frankfurt and the Erlenmatt([R]) in Basle. The company therefore creates new space for living, working and leisure and is capitalising on the international trend towards urban renaissance.

Vivico invested over EUR 190 million in 2006 alone. Vivico employs around 140 people. The headquarters are located in Frankfurt, with offices in Berlin, Frankfurt, Cologne and Munich. Vivico is a CA Immo company.

Arnulfpark([R]), Romischer Hof([R]), Erlenmatt([R]) and RheinTriadem([R]) are registered trade marks of Vivico Real Estate GmbH. The legal notices of Vivico Real Estate GmbH apply to the online links in this press release.

About Global Hyatt Corporation

Tower One is going to be built?! :)

no, not yet ^^.

As far as I know it is part of the Skyline Plaza.

it`s part of skyline plaza, but they won`t build it (simultanously) unless they find an anchor tenant for it (maybe deutsche bahn, they had plans for a ~200m tower in ffm some years ago..)

But I am curious to see Grand Hyatt's future design next month!!!!

next month?

Yes in September or October since they want to start building it before 2009...

some news:

- T185 | 185m | 50fl | App (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=505636): construction is about to start - the site is cleared, first construction machines arrived




I quote myself: looks like construction of T185 started - pictures to follow soon

A small project near central station uc now. Its not a new building but just a complete renovation of an existing building. From the old building, only the concrete skeleton will remain. Everything else will be new. Nothing too special but still an improvement.

Architekt is Mäckler

http://www.pixellab.de/img/projekte/3d/architektur/ivg_1.jpg
http://www.pixellab.de/img/projekte/3d/architektur/ivg_2.jpg
http://www.pixellab.de/img/projekte/3d/architektur/ivg_3.jpg
http://www.pixellab.de/projekte/3de_38_arc_29/index1.php?list=3de

Wow, this will become nice!

Fraport wants to build a little highrise (60m) at the airport. Might be used as new Fraport HQ.

They still have to choose a design:

http://www.faz.net/m/%7BEEFC3C0F-8547-4D38-ACD6-2F73CE028F35%7DPicture.jpg
Architect: Schneider + Schumacher

or...

http://www.faz.net/m/%7B41AAC477-5CA1-453F-9562-34C380441AB1%7DPicture.jpg
Architect: AS&P

http://www.faz.net/s/RubFAE83B7DDEFD4F2882ED5B3C15AC43E2/Doc~E2DA808408EF4453094C988A3B3A2285B~ATpl~Ecommon~Scontent.html

I recently read an article by a Frankfurter journalist about that project. It is a not so beloved project among the urbanists.

would prefer the first one...

me too :)

I would rather say: Not another glass-cladded building! :ohno:

Im not a fan of all the midrises planned for the airport or gateway gardens

^
Why not? Will form a nice little cluster visible from the highway.

instead of all the midrise clusters Id rather see one or two really tall buildings in the center

Me too. Stop building 10 buildings with 15 storeys and build 2 with 75! :bash:

Sorry, but its impossible to build 75 story building at the airport or at gateway gardens ;). And no, these comapnies (offices, hotel, conference) do not want to built in CBD because their business is closely related to the airport.

And I perosnally prefer to have a little gateway gardens cluster, visible from the highway, than some lowrise office park somewhere outside of the city boundaries. Remeber, this is the first thing people will see when arriving by car. The entrance (A3, A5) is already impressive, but with this (+airrailcenter) it will be awesome and without resemblance in any german city.

Rengerings of Quartier Alpha (only one small part of Gateway gardens):
http://www.gateway-gardens.de/uploads/tx_ggmodel/gg_gallery_qa01.jpg

http://www.gateway-gardens.de/uploads/tx_ggmodel/gg_gallery_qa02.jpg

more news:

the developer vivico plans to erect a 200 meter tower at the former campanile-site, including office space for 3000 deutsche bahn employees and a bus terminal (source: fr)

The Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung also writes that the tower can be as 210m high.

Here u can see the location of the new tower, on a little Fantasyrendering i made a while ago...good height, good news, but again nothing higher than 300m which would be important for frankfurt to have a new landmark and to take the dominance of the commerzbakhochhaus away...

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/5756/dsc00562visuxo6.jpg

thats a really great render you made, too bad you removed it only hours after publishing it on daf :banana:
many thanks to the green party that the tower will finally get way taller then on your render, although you`re right that a 250m or more tower would be even better, but at this place 210m will do it aswell.
thats how 210m look at this place:
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/9429/unbenannt2kopieol8.jpg

Wow, fantastic news. This was the tower I was expecting the least. :banana:

^ Pity that tower near the Hauptbahnhof doesn't address the problems with buses. At the moment, that plot is a vacant lot (carpark) and many buses (usually long distance ones) use the streets around there to pick up passengers. Those passengers have no waiting area or shelter and it is a sham. I was hoping that what ever development is made there would have some decent bus station added with underground access to the main station. If this is built without it, I guess the transport solution will never be implemented as there is very little free space around the main station.

The tower project will have a bus terminal included.

But I don't see the smallest reason why on earth a tower is needed at this location, all the more with this height. I'd rather see the the Tower I of the UEC/Skyline Plaza (this 210m would be absolutely perfect there) built then this one. Too much away from the clusters and with this height it will ruin the skyline from many perspectives. That's not city planning, that's conceptlessness!

^ Indeed.

They definitely should build this thing at UEC, as Tower 1! Should be even cheaper than the location at central station.

210m at this place would look plain stupid. The clusters (Messe and Finanz-cluster) already are too spread out. This would increase the problem drastically.

NO to a BahnTower at the Hauptbahnhof!

^ Excellent news that it will include a bus terminal. Let's hope an underground pass to it as well from the Hauptbahnhof. In fact, while we are on that, hopefully they completely rebuild the underground shopping area under the Hauptbahnhof as it is so dated.

I think this building is in a good location. It is always optimal to have high density around a major station. It will also bring many office workers through the underground shopping area which will increase traffic there and hopefully keep the shops in business (look how successful, and large for that matter the underground shopping in Kyoto is, and I would imagine Frankfurt's station has a pretty good level of passenger movements compared to Kyoto). Like you, I do like clusters, but this is not too far from the Messe cluster that from many angles will look almost part of it (especially from the south). On the same note, it will fill in a bit of the gap between the Westhafen tower and Messe.

In fact, there should be more highrises around the Hauptbahnhof, if only there was more space. Then again, there are plenty of cheap post war structures that could be demolished without me having any issues.

The Westhafen tower is small enough (only 100m) and next to the Cutleut-Cluster so that there is no need to fill any gap between this building and the Messe. And the Messe Cluster is very far away - and needs several additional buildings like T185 and UEC Towers until it can be really called a cluster.
The Campanile will always be a solitaire (like the ecb) and that's stupid, especially when it comes to heights like these 210m!

do you also think the messeturm shouldn`t have been build because it was placed outside the existing highrisecore? :ohno:
i think the bahntower will be really great, think of the view from the runuparea to the mainstation with t185 on the left and bahntower right of it. :banana:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2320/2371742812_39984087d3_b.jpg

The Westhafen tower is small enough (only 100m) and next to the Cutleut-Cluster so that there is no need to fill any gap between this building and the Messe. And the Messe Cluster is very far away - and needs several additional buildings like T185 and UEC Towers until it can be really called a cluster.
The Campanile will always be a solitaire (like the ecb) and that's stupid, especially when it comes to heights like these 210m!

I do see the Messe area as a cluster, at least from where I live. These are views from my apartment.


A bit dated, but you can see the Hauptbahnhof and where the new building will go. It will add to this cluster.
http://www.pbase.com/jchambers/image/76058756/original.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/jchambers/image/76062208/original.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/jchambers/image/76058664/original.jpg

nice views :)

Frankfurt is going to be crazy once again...after a long time concerning Highrise construction.
These projects have started already or will start 2009 or are already under construction.

Under Construction:
Tower 185 (185m)
Opernturm (170m)
Palaisquartier Office Tower (136m)
Palaisquartier Hotel Tower (99m)
KFW Westarkade (59m)
Airrail Center (600m long and about 46 m tall)

On Hold:
EZB-Skytower (185m, with Antenna 220m)
Construction will go on soon presumebly soon, at least in 2009

Construction Start in 2009
Grand Hyatt Hotel Tower (165m)
Formerly Kaiserkarree (150+m)
Maintor first part (60m Tower first, than a second 60m and finally a 100m Tower)
Bahn Tower (210m, eventually....)

btw you forgot the 150+ m project next to the Japan-Center, former known as "Kaiserkarree" :)

yes u are right, thankyou!

Nice Pics, Justme!

The new towers - T185, Grand Hyatt and Bahntower - will all appear ouside the left margin of your pics, but with a very massive density. Can't see the objections of some members against this location. In many views it will be a real addition to Frankfurts skyline.

Another huge project hasn't been mentioned so far in the international part of this forum. There is still some fuzz around it, but I have no doubt that it will be built as there are reated about 4800 almost new jobs and other benefits for the city of Frankfurt, and, the investor - DG Bank - really wants to start asap.

When looking Justme's pics and newfvgffm list it popped up immediatly as it would fill perfectly the gap between the two DG Bank towers (City HH and Westendstr. 1). It would be the third tower tower for DG Bank at their ground, targeted height is 230 Meters. The bank wants to concentrate jobs from all over the country in addition to a lot of new jobs in order to increase their business activities. The Union Invest Tower - illuminated blue in the last pic - will then be converted to a residential only.

230m for DG Bank? I wonder if this one gets approved ..

230m for DG Bank? I wonder if this one gets approved ..

we can't do more than hope :(

yeh, i bet they'll build their tower with 230m

yeh, i bet they'll build their tower with 230m

what does you make so confident?

It is hard to say, what will come out.

When this location was requested for the masterplan, the above details where not told. Everybody was assuming a trick to save a potential place in the plan and to increase the grounds value, especially as DG Bank came with their request in the very last minute. Nobody expected the tower being build in near future and certainly not for own use. So it was rejected for the master plan. Also there were objections in terms of the towers shadow thrown on the city district behind.

After that DG Bank unveiled above plans, Mäckler made a first mass study and also it was examinated that the shadow would only affected something like 36-40 residential buildings for about 20 minutes a day. The huge number of new working places and also some other goodies as a lot of new appartments should be a very good argument and give a new view on this project. Not forgetting the additional taxes for the city, they will compensate twice those lost for Deutsche Börse moved out to Eschborn. And of course 230 Meters are not a lot compared to the space needed for 4800 employees.

So this is what makes me a bit confident... Let's keep fingers crossed!

DG Bank should offer something more than just jobs ...

the opposition of the green party against the 210m bahn tower at the central station fell after it was agreed to create a new park in the eastern harbour ...

they offered much more then "just" thousands of jobs(which would otherwise go to eschborn or somewhere else..) 10.000sqm appartements and a kindergarden in the basement of the highrise+ 15.000sqm in the union tower, plus extension of the bettinastreet to the mainzerlandstraße.
against this stands: 36 to 40 buildings that would be shadowed for about 20minutes at a time during 11am to 15pm in autumn and spring.
this should be a clear thing to go..

I am very positive that they will finally allow this tower. 4000 jobs are very important. Especially in the light of the Commerzbank/Dresdner Bank fusion which might involve massive job cuts. Furthermore, low tax Eschborn is just around the corner (thank you Eschborn for giving Frankfurt's politicians some pressure).

230m for DG Bank? I wonder if this one gets approved ..

It has already been rejected! :nuts:

they offered much more then "just" thousands of jobs(which would otherwise go to eschborn or somewhere else..) 10.000sqm appartements and a kindergarden in the basement of the highrise+ 15.000sqm in the union tower, plus extension of the bettinastreet to the mainzerlandstraße.
against this stands: 36 to 40 buildings that would be shadowed for about 20minutes at a time during 11am to 15pm in autumn and spring.
this should be a clear thing to go..

offering appartments isn't something special - every developer is offering appartments, because it's a requirement. the only real gift and opportunity is the extension of bettinastrasse, but is it really as attractive as a park or a bus terminal ...

offering appartments isn't something special - every developer is offering appartments, because it's a requirement. the only real gift and opportunity is the extension of bettinastrasse, but is it really as attractive as a park or a bus terminal ...

It is a big deal for Frankfurt. Inner city apartments is something this city still lacks. Most highrises in the city are office space only. For this reason the city becomes rather dead once the shops close. It has taken a while for Frankfurt to catch up with the rest of the world and start putting apartments in new highrise developments.

the thing is ... these appartments won't get built in the city center and certainly not as part of the tower itself. the developer is required to provide appartments somewhere in the area - in the case of DG Bank there are plans to provide them in the converted Union Investment Tower - but that's not certain yet. they're probably going to be built in the european quarter instead ...

^^ That's a pity and then quite pointless. Although the Union Investment tower would be considered inner city, it's too fat to be functional apartments. The inner sections or rooms would be too far from the windows for natural light.

every little attempt to establish highrise living in frankfurt has been extinguished quickly - mainly because the investors earn more with office space, but also due to regulations and recently due to issues with overshadowing and ... protection of views of rich people living in highrise appartments (!) - the two appartment towers at the site of the turm palast cinema have been cut to a single one - the height was cut too. official reason: they didn't want to obstruct the skyline views from the neighouring skylight residential tower (lol) ...

^^ That's amazing stuff. When you say the two apartment towers at the site of the turm palast, do you mean they will demolish the turm palast, or will it be next to it?

the lease for turm palast expires in 2010 - the entire block is set for redevelopment. the residential tower will be built opposite the skylight tower. I don't know what will replace the turm palast - probably something similar to the new MAB development across the street at the former Frankfurter Rundschau site.

HD and Justme,
here is a nice plan for the development of the turmpalast areal:

http://happarchitecture.de/projekte.htm

every little attempt to establish highrise living in frankfurt has been extinguished quickly - mainly because the investors earn more with office space, but also due to regulations and recently due to issues with overshadowing and ... protection of views of rich people living in highrise appartments (!) - the two appartment towers at the site of the turm palast cinema have been cut to a single one - the height was cut too. official reason: they didn't want to obstruct the skyline views from the neighouring skylight residential tower (lol) ...

Partly understandable from the perspective of the apartment owners. Uninterrupted skyline view is probably worth 50,000 - 100,000 EUR. Constructing a new apartment tower directly in front of another would mean a large decrease in property value.

i found also a render of the rejected 60m residential highrise next to the main-river. don`t think we will miss this one..

http://happarchitecture.de/images/Projekte/07-FWohnHochhausMain_Ext.jpg

^
hell no, looks quite ugly IMO.

They should have build some residential highrises at the Deutschehrnufer and next to ECB. The little solitaires were sold out in no time with the upper apartments sold first. A missed opportunity IMO.

^
hell no, looks quite ugly IMO.

They should have build some residential highrises at the Deutschehrnufer and next to ECB. The little solitaires were sold out in no time with the upper apartments sold first. A missed opportunity IMO.

That is true. But after the failure of Main Plaza, where only the penthouse was sold, investors became much more careful about highrise apartment investment. Main Plaza has become a hotel, thus was saved from becoming a ruin...
This is also one of the reasons why the 56-storey residential tower on Neue Mainzer Straße wasn't built yet.
And honstely: I would not buy a highrise apartment either. I prefer a house in the outskirts thus I am one of those guilty of innercity vacuum creation.:cheers:

Skyline_FFM: This is also one of the reasons why the 56-storey residential tower on Neue Mainzer Straße wasn't built yet.


It was just an idea to make it residential. It was always planned as an office and is not yet built for other reasons. Would be a waste of money to make it residential in the district with the highest rents for office space.

Skyline_FFM: It has already been rejected! :nuts:

Campanile/Bahntower was also rejected... :nuts:

HD: DG Bank should offer something more than just jobs ...

the opposition of the green party against the 210m bahn tower at the central station fell after it was agreed to create a new park in the eastern harbour ...

This is what is put forward for publicity. In this newspaper article (only in German) (http://www.fr-online.de/frankfurt_und_hessen/nachrichten/frankfurt/1592771_Schwarz-Gruen-baut-Bahn-Tower.html) it was said by spokesmen of conservative and green party responsible for this area that the main reason for approving the Bahntower was to keep the working places within the city. If necessary you will always find something like a park.
The lowest figures for the loss of excise taxes (which is in relation to the employees) through the move of 1900 working places of Deutsche Boerse outside of the city was 50 Mio Euros, which already were a real pain for Frankfurt. And here it is not just to keep the working places, even if there are only 3800 new working places created... the magistration would conduct grossly negligent not to take the chance. Eschborn isn't too far away.

And of course, I could be completly wrong.

Partly understandable from the perspective of the apartment owners. Uninterrupted skyline view is probably worth 50,000 - 100,000 EUR. Constructing a new apartment tower directly in front of another would mean a large decrease in property value.

No excuse really. Whether you live in a highrise downtown apartment in Sydney, Chicago, New York, Hong Kong or pretty much anywhere else in the world, other highrises go up and change the view. This is life. I have never heard of a city blocking future downtown highrise apartments because of some people who live in existing ones complained.

Thanks HD newfvgffm for the info on the turmpalast site. I checked the link and they did mention "entertainment" as well for the site, so I am wondering if that means a rebuilt of the cinema complex.

Although I will not be sad to see the turmpalast demolished, it is afterall a completely hideous kino complex. Actually, I've been to better ones in undeveloped countries, but it is the only place outside of the odd arthouse cinema will you can get original movies in Frankfurt. If it is being rebuilt, I wonder if the other cinema's will take up the slack and show original films or if there will simply be a glut in Frankfurt.

That is true. But after the failure of Main Plaza, where only the penthouse was sold, investors became much more careful about highrise apartment investment. Main Plaza has become a hotel, thus was saved from becoming a ruin...
This is also one of the reasons why the 56-storey residential tower on Neue Mainzer Straße wasn't built yet.
And honstely: I would not buy a highrise apartment either. I prefer a house in the outskirts thus I am one of those guilty of innercity vacuum creation.:cheers:

The single reason the Main Plaza failed was lack of balcony's. No one, and I mean absolutely no one would want to live in a highrise apartment without any balcony's, especially one with the pricetags that those apartments had. The Penthouse had balcony's and it sold. The majority of apartments didn't.

I looked at buying there myself but was turned off completely when I realized you had no outside space.

No excuse really. Whether you live in a highrise downtown apartment in Sydney, Chicago, New York, Hong Kong or pretty much anywhere else in the world, other highrises go up and change the view. This is life. I have never heard of a city blocking future downtown highrise apartments because of some people who live in existing ones complained.

I don't know the legal situation here. But the plans to construct more highrises in that area are relative recent. It is possible that the contract of the skylight apartments included aspects of uninterrupted skyline view based on the older highrise master plan.

I can imagine that the apartment owners of the skylight would have sued the city or any developer if they really planned to destroy their view. But that's just an assumption.

I don't know the legal situation here. But the plans to construct more highrises in that area are relative recent. It is possible that the contract of the skylight apartments included aspects of uninterrupted skyline view based on the older highrise master plan.

I can imagine that the apartment owners of the skylight would have sued the city or any developer if they really planned to destroy their view. But that's just an assumption.

How can a company of person created a contract that affects an entire downtown? That simply can't be done.

I also doubt such an arrangement is possible. even if the projects gets cut by one tower, the second tower will still cover the skyline view partially.

the start of the new Europaviertel West (European Quarter West) has been announced recently - the western extension of the europaviertel development will become home to 3000 people and will hold approx. 10000 working places. the development includes a couple of midrise/highrise buildings.

some views:

http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/3690/eq11tw1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/6906/eq10vp5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/957/eq6ly2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/8397/eq7rx5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/886/eq8fp2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/7462/eq9wv1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/3646/eq0yf1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)



more infos here:
http://www.aurelis-real-estate.de/de/
http://www.boulevard-west.de
http://www.boulevard-mitte.de
http://www.helenenhoefe.de
http://www.in-den-stadtgaerten.de

nice compilation, it is an huge area if u look at it with the whole Europa Boulevard Area.
Amazing:

Big:
http://www.bilder-space.de/show.php?file=6cI7FhsjcqNMmCI.jpg

^^ I love those kinds of plans, an urban canyon! The buildings around Europa Garden comes off as a bit suburban though, crank up the density.

What's in that location at the moment by the way?

Hmmm, more bland rectangular block apartments. Is this the only type of new apartment building allowed in Frankfurt these days? It seems they are all like this now.

Otherwise it's ok. I like the larger plan posted by newfvgffm. What's the park like area around the UEC?

Any further details on this first stage? When they will start etc?

the parklike area around uec is in fact the uec roofgarden as also noted on the map. i dont think there`s a complete timetable of the project yet, they just started marketing (aurelis doesn`t build it on its own) and maybe we can see some first buildings going up next year.. but imho there`s way too much office-space so we will have to wait some time until the gaps are filled. i also think the townhouses shouldn`t all get the same height as it looks way of suburban as already mentioned. architecture surely isn`t final yet, so we will hopefully see some better designs then on this renders.. :banana:

i like to much Frankfurt. very modern!! great city.

Hmmm, more bland rectangular block apartments. Is this the only type of new apartment building allowed in Frankfurt these days? It seems they are all like this now.

Otherwise it's ok. I like the larger plan posted by newfvgffm. What's the park like area around the UEC?

Any further details on this first stage? When they will start etc?

UEC is called Skyline Plaza now and will be built with the Grand Hyatt Frankfurt (the 160m tower), a 5+ stars hotel, one of four of this category in Germany. Tower One, the 200m one is still being marketed by Vivico and Aurelis. A bid for construction has already been made at the city hall. Millennium Tower can only be built after completion of the Skyline Plaza, means after 2011... :(

Don't think this is the final architecture. Just a concept. Hope it gets a little bit more sophisticated. The era of boxes is coming to an end.
Furthermore, for my taste there is too little residential and too much office space. Why only 3000 residents but 10,000 office jobs?

Hmmm, more bland rectangular block apartments. Is this the only type of new apartment building allowed in Frankfurt these days? It seems they are all like this now.


it's not a frankfurt thing. it's not even a german thing. that's how you build pretty much everywhere ... it's all about costs.

It is not about costs but rather about energy efficiency, Today you can hardly get a big project approved with energy-intensive buildings! At least here in Germany.

blocks are more energy efficient?

THESE blocks ARE!

thx to google sketchup, here the beginning of a mass study of the new boulevard, one of the biggest developements in europe!

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http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/6072/europaviertel5cf3.th.jpg (http://img523.imageshack.us/my.php?image=europaviertel5cf3.jpg)

http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/3930/europavierteljpgsh8.th.jpg (http://img264.imageshack.us/my.php?image=europavierteljpgsh8.jpg)

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/2446/europaviertel2ky9.th.jpg (http://img215.imageshack.us/my.php?image=europaviertel2ky9.jpg)

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good work. can you add the whole skyline plaza (the shopping center is supposed to be 35m tall), T185, Gueterplatzhochhaus, the MT and maybe a 130m mass study of the Matthaeuskirche tower??

A press release regarding todays' celebrated groundbreaking at Tower 185:

Today in the Europaviertel, Vivico together with Petra Roth, Mayor of the City of Frankfurt, Hans Wagener, spokesman for the Board of Directors of Pricewaterhouse Coopers AG (PwC) and Professor Christoph Mäckler, architect, cut the first sod for Tower 185.

"The Europaviertel is reaching new heights," emphasised Bernhard H. Hansen, Chairman of the Board of Directors of Vivico. "Tower 185 is the first high-rise in the Europaviertel. The start of Tower 185's construction is marked by a rapidly developing Europaviertel. It is already a location for living, offices and hotels. As the next step, the Skyline Plaza with extensive shopping and meeting options will sensibly complement the usage mix in the Europaviertel."

For Hansen the Vivico project developments are sustainable investments: "The conclusion of the lease agreement with PwC before construction begins confirms our strategy of commercially sound planning and implementation." The auditing company Pricewaterhouse Coopers AG has rented around 645,000 square feet in Tower 185 for its new Frankfurt company headquarters. The sustainable approach is to be complemented by the ecological optimisation of Tower 185. Vivico is striving to achieve certification from the international seal of approval of "LEED" [Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design). "LEED" defines standards for environmentally-friendly, resource-saving and sustainable construction and is considered the world's most recognized benchmark for ecological real estate.

The start of construction work was symbolically celebrated with the cutting of the first sod. The initial preparatory work has been running since the start of September. The foundations are expected to be completed in February 2009. After that, the six-storey base building is to be erected, with completion planned for autumn 2010. The construction of the 50-storey tower is to be concluded by the end of 2011.

Tower 185 marks the entrance to the Europaviertel and lies directly next to the Skyline Plaza, the shopping and conference centre recently approved by the Frankfurt city councillor assembly. The address for Tower 185 is Friedrich Ebert Anlage 35-37.

The building has a total of approx. 1,445,000 square feet of gross floor space above ground, mainly for office use. More than 12,900 square feet of retail trade and restaurants on the ground floor of the base building will liven up the entire environment of Tower 185. The upper floors of the 50-storey tower will house prestigious business offices, communications and conference rooms with a unique skyline view. The tower contains a two-storey underground car park with around 550 parking spaces. The trend-setting architecture of the high-rise stems from the Frankfurt architect Professor Christoph Mäckler. It integrates itself harmoniously into the existing city panoramic view.
Source: Vivico Real Estate (http://www.vivico.de/php/PresseMeldung.php?lang=d&id=309)


There also appeared a new design (and height) of the building. To have a look at it, you might visit the Tower 185 project thread (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=25765280#post25765280).

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/6752/pwct185img2684jm3.jpg

http://www.vivico.de/images/img2508.jpg

http://www.vivico.de/images/img2512.jpg

The entree
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/3816/page81003fulloq5.jpg
Source: Vivico

Very nice projects. :)

A small project perhaps worth mentioning:

Occidens
Bockenheimer Landstraße 43-47
4.900 m² office space

Looks unusual, but I like it. Better than the plain boxes we usually get.

http://www.gross-partner.eu/uploads/pics/Occidens_popup1_01.jpg
http://www.gross-partner.eu/uploads/pics/Occidens_popup2_01.jpg
http://www.gross-partner.eu/uploads/pics/Occidens_popup3_01.jpg
http://www.gross-partner.eu/index.php?id=557

Another rendering of the Deutsche Boerse Cube:
http://www.gross-partner.eu/uploads/pics/Deutsche_Boerse_popup2.jpg
http://www.gross-partner.eu/index.php?id=533

A small project perhaps worth mentioning:

Occidens
Bockenheimer Landstraße 43-47
4.900 m² office space

Looks unusual, but I like it. Better than the plain boxes we usually get.

at least it has 8 floors :)

http://www.gross-partner.eu/uploads/pics/Occidens_popup1_01.jpg


damn cool, i like it.especially the top, it sort of looks like a crown.

Was about to post the Occidens as well. Very expressionist, almost Art Decó. I'm lovin' it!

Why can't they come up with more lovely buildings like this?
Most new projects around the globe consist of bland boxes.

good work. can you add the whole skyline plaza (the shopping center is supposed to be 35m tall), T185, Gueterplatzhochhaus, the MT and maybe a 130m mass study of the Matthaeuskirche tower??

HD, i overlayed the aurelis plan with the new masterplan of vivico and started all over again.
Still having a problem with facades implementation, but nevertheless it is a beginning :)

2 Pics to show how its going on:

http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/2206/europaneu22vfbs9.jpg

http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/4972/europaneu2testwy8.jpg

wow, that's a great new cluster emerging there...

btw the millennium tower displayed at this years MIPIM will be in the 400m range ;)

i guess in my rendering the millennium tower is 370m :D

Interesting news, can u get into more detail?

I have no info on that. I just heard the latest version of the MT on display at MIPIM will reach approx. 400m.

looks like nowadays every project is growing.

now - thanks to your info - we know that kaiserkarree will be around 160m tall!

Woah a 400m tower in Fraknfurt would be the icing of a cake for Frankfurt´s skyline. I highly doubt that such a project will be realised there in the upcoming few years,but i hope i am wrong. :)

A small project perhaps worth mentioning:

Occidens
Bockenheimer Landstraße 43-47
4.900 m² office space

Looks unusual, but I like it. Better than the plain boxes we usually get.


The entrance and the crown look like they are inspired by cubistic houses like this one:

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk229/wonwiin/P1090275.jpg

I like it. It gives the building a personality, makes it interesting. And it is not flashy and over the top but has kind of a subdued elegance.

newfvgffm

how about posting the model of frankfurt from the MIPIM?

good idea, though the model is not absolutely correct, Kaiserkarree has its old design, still Max on it, i guess they put all models of the highrise development plan on it, even if a realisation is uncertain of some projects.
Anyway, the model shows good the development of FRankfurts future, though it could have been better. The heights of many existing buildings are not accurate, and the city counsil paid a lot for the creation of that model, i would want my money back :), even the heights of some new projects like bahntower are NOT accurate, the tower at the campanile spot is about 180m as in the HRDP, not as 210m like vivico wnats to buidl for the DB.
As i read, visitors at the expo have been a little bit angry because of a lack of information concerning many projects in frankfurt.

The single towers can be highlighted on a guidance table and on a little desktop there popping out some infos cercerning the projects: BUT: On most projects they only could read:
There is no further information about that project, so very dissapointing:

http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/6982/expozt3.jpg
Quelle: Expo Real


in Big:

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thanks. what is this tall (160m?) tower next to the old post tower? bit tall for what is actually planned there ...

I just realized the model has been cut a bit. you don't see the marriott tower, also the bockenheim campus development isn't on the model...also no westhafen tower, no ECB tower ..

In other forums we are also quite surprised about that one, looks quite good, could be a new entrance to the city :) perhaps a new development we don't know something about yet...

too bad that they shortened winx tower so much, 120-130m would have been much better, also the apartment highrises could have been taller at the zeil...just little stumps like this :(

Great! But isn't it some kind of weird to include the Max Tower which was burried officially by Deutsche Bank and leave out Marieninsel? I would like to know which ones are those between Bahntower and the Hotel in Skyline Plaza.

oh an no little tower next to FBC and no 230m DZ bank...:nuts:

Max is not burried officially. as is said earlier they put all projects af the old Highrise plan in there too.

Great! But isn't it some kind of weird to include the Max Tower which was burried officially by Deutsche Bank and leave out Marieninsel? I would like to know which ones are those between Bahntower and the Hotel in Skyline Plaza.

there has been no such announcement. officially deutsche bank has put this on ice. many towers that are u/c now, were put on ice for a while ...

I'm not quite sure, but it looks like marieninsel is there - trianon must be behind it. the tower is certainly taller than trianon ...

They offered Max to ECB. But they got their own plans to built in Eastern FFM and so Deutsche Bank tried unsuccessfully to offer it to to other potential firms that were not interested.

Bei der Deutschen Bank gibt es auf Konzernebene widersprüchliche Aussagen zum Bau eines 200 Meter hohen Bürogebäudes in der Frankfurter Innenstadt. Die Immobilien-Tochter DGI bestreitet den Stopp des Bauvorhabens.

Aus Immobilienkreisen erfuhr der Financial Times Deutschland, die Deutsche Bank habe das so genannte Max-Hochhaus bereits vor dem 11. September vom Markt genommen. Ein Sprecher der Deutschen Bank bestätigte auf Anfrage, das Projekt liege "auf Eis". Rentabilitätsuntersuchungen hätten ergeben, dass der Bau des Max-Hochhauses die ursprünglichen Renditeerwartungen nicht erfüllen werde, sagte der Sprecher.

Die mit den Planungen sowie der Ausführung beauftragte Immobilientochter der Deutschen Bank, die Deutsche Grundbesitz Invest (DGI) bestritt die Äußerungen des Deutsche-Bank-Sprechers gegenüber der FTD vehement. Ein entsprechender Bebauungsplan sei aufgelegt, sagte ein Sprecher. Die Gesellschaft halte an dem für das Jahr 2003 anberaumten Termin für den ersten Spatenstich fest.


Das Max-Hochhaus soll an der Stelle des jetzigen Händlerzentrums der Deutschen Bank errichtet werden. Die Händler sollen bis 2003 in ein neues Gebäude umziehen, das zurzeit an der Theodor-Heuss-Allee gegenüber der Messe errichtet wird.


Ursprünglich sollte das Max-Hochhaus der Europäischen Zentralbank (EZB) angeboten werden. Da die EZB jedoch im Frankfurter Osten auf dem Geländer der Großmarkthalle nun selbst baut, wird das Gebäude anderen potenziellen Mietern angeboten.

there has been no such announcement. officially deutsche bank has put this on ice. many towers that are u/c now, were put on ice for a while ...

I'm not quite sure, but it looks like marieninsel is there - trianon must be behind it. the tower is certainly taller than trianon ...

You are right. On the bigger version you see a small edge of Trianon appearing on the right side of Marieninsel. Kaiserkarre is not with it's new height yet. This may be because they haven't shown a new design for it. I want to see the designs for new Kaiserkarree, Bahntower and Grand Hyatt Skyline Plaza! When will they be published?

what the article basically says is that db is trying to market the tower for potential investors -> that doesn't mean, it's dead - db just doesn't want to build it itself ;)

what the article basically says is that db is trying to market the tower for potential investors -> that doesn't mean, it's dead - db just doesn't want to build it itself ;)

But this article is very old. And since then I have never heard about any efforts to bring Max forward.

db will make a lot of money (money that already appears on their balance sheets), if they sell this site with the permission for a 228m tall tower - sooner or later this will come, like pretty much every other project so far. this will probably come later, but who cares ... there are not many potential skyscraper sites in the banking district - this one is a prime site. what we see now is how systematically all sites from the masterplan of 98 are being developed. I guess one of the developers will buy the site and erect the tower. look what tishman speyer is doing in frankfurt: they're buying one site after another - messeturm, opernturm, kaiserkarree ... why not max after this ...

only because there is no news, it doesn't mean nothing is happening. opernturm came out of nowhere. same goes for T185, the bahntower, etc ... there was no news, despite months long negotiations ....

That is true. I hope this will be built. Max makes this cluster looking super dense and tall! Along with Marieninsel and 230m DZ-Bank, PwC-Tower, Kaiserkarree and Skyline Plaza it will densen a lot the the skyline.

Another skyscraper for Frankfurt! :righton:

DZ-Bank tower will come! Yesterday evening CDU and Green party agreed to the plans and will allow a height of 175 meters. :banana:

Here the newspapar article (http://www.fnp.de/fnp/region/lokales/rmn01.c.5248625.de.htm) (in German).

:banana:, not 230m but at least a tower...and still 175m :cheers:

The major point is that it has been approved for planning, the green party is putting the economical importance over their other objections - this is really amazing! The height will probably turn out a bit more at the end as usual in Frankfurt.

hm... good news, although 175m (or maybe 185 with technical floors etc) are far too low for this location... like marieninsel 230m+ would be necessary there to make a great impact on the skyline... but looks like frankfurts politicians only want to have a 150-200m skyline that looks like shit..:ohno:

I realy have to visited Frankfurt once. I like it because it has many tall towers! But it can also use some less tall ones to make it more dense!

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/9320/xxcss0.jpg

ok, 230m would have been great, but 175m that were not in the masterplan, is fantastic.

it will create a nice step from the 143m tall cityhaus to the 208m tall westendstrasse 1 ...

maybe they announced 230m first, to get the 175m they really wanted to begin as they thought the city's administration would cut it anyway at this place near the Westend residental area :D

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/9320/xxcss0.jpg
ok, 230m would have been great, but 175m that were not in the masterplan, is fantastic.

from day to day the skyline of Frankfurt gets more ridiculous and ugly. you need towers which stick out! soon there will be a line at 150meters from left to right. this will look so fuckin ugly.

I disagree. A Millenium Tower would stick out like a sore thumb. Towers between 150-250 m are the best possible option for Frankfurt.

skyline.fan talks like radi :D

i think, the differentiation of heights is ok in frankfurt. i don't see the "ridiculous fuckin ugly line" in that pic. or will the existing and planned towers shrink to 150m? :nuts: from left to right:

208m, Westendstraße 1
175m, Neue DZ-Bank
144m, Selmi-Hochhaus
160m, UEC Turm 2
130m, Hochhaus an der Matthäuskirche
204m, PWC-Hochhaus
130m, Pollux
210m, UEC Turm 1
095m, Kastor
256m, Messeturm
110m, IBC
170m, Neues Poseidonhaus
159m, Marriott Hotel
144m, Hochhaus am alten Campus Bockenheim

but I agree with the point that Frankfurt could use a new highest point.

i didn't point with the finger on the MT which will so or so NEVER be built.
if Frankfurt hasn't even the balls to build a 230meter tower i can imagine where we are in 10 years. 230 meter cmon ... this is ok, 300 ain't even something special today; for Frankfurt 300 is untouchable. Pussy Town ...

Putting too much trust in this city is a mistake i did twice but i won't do it a third time. Happy Birthday for builing a 204 meter tower ... amazing!

THX God for the invention of the Ignore List!

Patrick u are right concerning heights. I also agree with you on your last point.

i didn't point with the finger on the MT which will so or so NEVER be built.
if Frankfurt hasn't even the balls to build a 230meter tower i can imagine where we are in 10 years. 230 meter cmon ... this is ok, 300 ain't even something special today; for Frankfurt 300 is untouchable. Pussy Town ...

Putting too much trust in this city is a mistake i did twice but i won't do it a third time. Happy Birthday for builing a 204 meter tower ... amazing!

If you have such a negative opinion about Frankfurt, so why don't you change your avatar!? And who said 300m was untouchable. Even without MT Frankfurt has a very impressive skyline for a 660k city. There are much bigger cities with a higher growth rate like Buenos Aires which do not even come close to 200m... And it is an enormous megacity. We don't need to compare Frankfurt to Moscow or Shanghai, simply because they have different needs. Look how tall are the tallest buildings in Tokyo...
I think Frankfurt is doing very well. I prefer an occupied 200m tower over an empty 350m tower that wouldn't even be visible at night or which would tap the view on the illuminated smaller towers.
Frankfurt is what it is because of the sustainable development, just like Munich, Vienna and Zürich. They have a good reputation and don't need the tallest schlong to show their strong sides....

I don't understand all the negativity either. the skyscraper construction in the city is booming and all projects have tenants. fact is, the future of skyscrapers in frankfurt is in the 150-250m range. the MT will probably stay an exception. and that's perfectly fine. frankfurt doesn't need taller towers, the city needs more towers.

if the future of skyscrapers in frankfurt would be up to 250m i would be ok with that, but the current building range is more from 150-200m. every proposal with more then 200m gets ridicully cut (marieninsel, dz bank) and existing highrises are no real 250s at all (messeturm and commerzbank highest offices are at about 220m). sorry to say so but this kind of skylineplanning sucks (and has nothing to do with city population at all, its just a political bullshit philosophy)

if the future of skyscrapers in frankfurt would be up to 250m i would be ok with that, but the current building range is more from 150-200m. every proposal with more then 200m gets ridicully cut (marieninsel, dz bank) and existing highrises are no real 250s at all (messeturm and commerzbank highest offices are at about 220m). sorry to say so but this kind of skylineplanning sucks (and has nothing to do with city population at all, its just a political bullshit philosophy)

Since when is Messeturm 220m? It is even above 250m.... And Commerzbank also, if you include the antenna it reaches even 300m!

he means, the highest floor is at 220m. he excluded the technical pyramid from the messeturm and the top part of the commerzbank.

http://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?searchID=40183801

everybody of you would cross the fingers if there would be a chance for projects like F21 or a few 200 meter towers + 1 300meter tower.

you just accept the situation, i won't. 230meters too high? cmon ... Frankfurt is an Alpha City, doesn't matter if 660k or 1200k people live there. it's the financial headquarter of central europe and it should look like this. 200 meter towers need to become standard, unluckily they aren't.

Why should i change my avatar? it's the synonym for my addiction to skyscrapers. 259 is the height i want to become standard. i don't hate Frankfurt like some peeps may think, i hate its politicians.

Frankfurt may be an Alpha City, so is Milan. And where are the supertalls in Milan? No city becomes an Alpha City because of it's skyscrapers. :lol: If that was reason enough so why isn't Dubai even Gamma and Shanghai only a Gamma metropolis behind cities like Frankfurt or Zürich. And as a banking city importance Frankfurt ranks in 14th place - behind Mumbai! So look at the complete research, not only the final result.
And Zürich is one of the best examples that importance and skyscrapers have nothing to do with each other. I would be pleased with a 300+ tower - but only if it was filled up. An empty 300m tower would be the most ridiculous thing ever! Until now Vivico is executing all of it's projects. Today better than ever before. If Donald Trump hadn't resisted from the MT, it would have been built already. But it is difficult to fill such a big tower in a city that small. And yes, population size HAS to do with size of towers. The city must be big enough to offer enough employment for the number of people needed to fill them up.
And for a slowly growing economy like the German which has many domestic competitors like Munich, Düsseldorf, Hamburg, Cologne and Stuttgart, it is not that easy for Frankfurt. London or Paris are out of concurrence in their own countries - even though the number of 300m towers is still,.... modest! :lol:
To liberate only the space offered by the MT other towers would not be built. Do you prefer ONE 350m tower over two towers, e.g. 200m and 150m which would fill the skyline up and making it more compact and denser? Strange! Vivico will only build what is needed and will not build over demand. For building such towers we would have to create more employment and growth that would bring demand and taller buildings also.
Rotterdam has a great skyline even with no single building over 200m.
You should stop comparing Frankfurt to other cities with very different structures. Compare it to other cities in Germany of about same size or even to Berlin!
Frankfurt is doing very well!

Frankfurt may be an Alpha City, so is Milan. And where are the supertalls in Milan? No city becomes an Alpha City because of it's skyscrapers. :lol: If that was reason enough so why isn't Dubai even Gamma and Shanghai only a Gamma metropolis behind cities like Frankfurt or Zürich. And as a banking city importance Frankfurt ranks in 14th place - behind Mumbai! So look at the complete research, not only the final result.
And Zürich is one of the best examples that importance and skyscrapers have nothing to do with each other. I would be pleased with a 300+ tower - but only if it was filled up. An empty 300m tower would be the most ridiculous thing ever! Until now Vivico is executing all of it's projects. Today better than ever before. If Donald Trump hadn't resisted from the MT, it would have been built already. But it is difficult to fill such a big tower in a city that small. And yes, population size HAS to do with size of towers. The city must be big enough to offer enough employment for the number of people needed to fill them up. And for a slowly growing economy like the German which has many domestic competitors like Munich, Düsseldorf, Hamburg, Cologne and Stuttgart, it is not that easy for Frankfurt. London or Paris are out of concurrence in their own countries - even though the number of 300m towers is still,.... modest! :lol:
To liberate only the space offered by the MT other towers would not be built. Do you prefer ONE 350m tower over two towers, e.g. 200m and 150m which would fill the skyline up and making it more compact and denser? Strange! Vivico will only build what is needed and will not build over demand. For building such towers we would have to create more employment and growth that would bring demand and taller buildings also.
Rotterdam has a great skyline even with no single building over 200m.
You should stop comparing Frankfurt to other cities with very different structures. Compare it to other cities in Germany of about same size or even to Berlin!
Frankfurt is doing very well!

I presume of course you are talking about metro area population. City Proper populations have no influence here. Afterall, this is a city of only 11,000 people but what a skyline. Naturally, it’s metro area is much larger, just as Frankfurt’s is to it’s 650,000 pop.

http://members.iinet.net.au/~michaelbolger/mp3/Perth.jpg

At least there are some little minor changes on the Millennium Tower since it's presence at Cityscape Dubai... :D
Especially the top of the building has changed and somehow it looks taller...
http://www.buenck.fehse.com/projects/urban_design/files/page12-1001-full.jpg
:cheers:

I presume of course you are talking about metro area population. City Proper populations have no influence here. Afterall, this is a city of only 11,000 people but what a skyline. Naturally, it’s metro area is much larger, just as Frankfurt’s is to it’s 650,000 pop.

http://members.iinet.net.au/~michaelbolger/mp3/Perth.jpg

I am surely speaking about metro populations. And the skyline you posted is from a country which was experiencing rapid growth. Germany had slow growth over the last two decades...

At least there are some little minor changes on the Millennium Tower since it's presence at Cityscape Dubai... :D
Especially the top of the building has changed and somehow it looks taller...
http://www.buenck.fehse.com/projects/urban_design/files/page12-1001-full.jpg
:cheers:

uhhmmmm... where did u find that pic? and do u have more pics of cityscape?
looks pretty old since some of the europaviertelproposals are still placeholderboxes.. the actual version of the graphic looks like this http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/3087/0810europaviertelmontagjd9.jpg

btw: german headquarters of bnp paribas is now under construction - sadly, design was changed to this :
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/3683/bnpparibasneuqe7.jpg

Look at the hp of the company that made the renderings: www.buenck.fehse.com
The whole Europaviertel is turning out into cold, sterile architecture.
Has anyone found news on Kaiserkarree's new design or the design of Skyline Plaza Grand Hyatt hotel?

BTW: I like Skyline Plaza more without MT, it makes the other towers look tiny! Perhaps it's site will turn out to be a nice little Park behind the PwC Tower. Would be nice!

Nice projects for Frankfurt!

Frankfurt is playing catch up! ;)

That new bnp paribas design is not so nice IMO. The old one was much better.

I am very worried about the architecture along the Europallee. Could turn out very bland. A shame for such a prestige project.

decision about the general highrise-plan was recessed once again.. :lol:

BUT the new dz-bank highrise has been APPROVED (http://www.fnp.de/fnp/region/lokales/rmn01.c.5293883.de.htm)by the city-council one week ago. unfortunately maximum height was set on 175m, the bank had plans for up to 230m. :ohno:

- the marriott tower is getting a major renovation - the new project is called westendgate - the reconstruction has already started.

- a new speculative office tower (west tower) with 26,000 square meters (280,000 sq ft) for the city west has been announced - location is right between the amex tower and the radisson tower. more infos will be published soon.

estimated height is arround 70m

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/03/PBC_Frankfurt.jpg/301px-PBC_Frankfurt.jpg
=>
http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/8513/erhard2qy8.jpg

Looks better before. :ohno:

^I agree. I even thought that 2nd pic was a 'before' pic...:P

Looks better before. :ohno:

yep, they should let it as it is at the moment.

Cool projects, "Deutsche Chicago" :)

Looks better before. :ohno:

Agreed. The current version looks great!

Airrail Center is great!!!

Gateway Gardens

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these are the new towers for the highrise master plan, which has been approved like this few days ago by the city administration. many 60m lowrises...
the projects from the 1998 masterplan are not included in this map.

http://www.rhein-main.net/sixcms/media.php/rmn01.a.7225.de/sixcms_filename/fff_hochhausplan_gross.jpg

orange = office
red = residential

Looks like Frankfurt is going to work on density. They need it.

these are the new towers for the highrise master plan, which has been approved like this few days ago by the city administration. many 60m lowrises...
the projects from the 1998 masterplan are not included in this map.

http://www.rhein-main.net/sixcms/media.php/rmn01.a.7225.de/sixcms_filename/fff_hochhausplan_gross.jpg

orange = office
red = residential

Where is Grand Hyatt? It will be built from early 2009 and has 160-165m,... ???

like t185, tower one, fraspa-tower, opernturm and some more, grand hyatt aka tower 2 was part of the first highrise-development-plan and is not included on the map..

like t185, tower one, fraspa-tower, opernturm and some more, grand hyatt aka tower 2 was part of the first highrise-development-plan and is not included on the map..

Ah ok. I thought T185, Opernturm and Frankfurt Hoch Vier weren't included because they are already u/c and Tower 1 and FraSpa are to built in a more or less distant future but not in 2009,... :D

Some news about the Maintor Project:

The first part of the new developement in the Frankfurt Banking district will start this year.
First they will demolish parts of the existing buildings and build a 64m high highrise, shown in the picture by me:

http://www.ld-host.de/uploads/images/20160f7e5f454421b3f8ea2d1062adf4.jpg

Then the other parts will follow, a second smaller highrise (64m) and from 2011 on the Tower WinX with 100m (excluding technical floors), so the final height will be a little higher.
Also the whole area will be opened to the public, it was closed for many years.
Part of the project is also residential in smaller cubic houses on the site.

Unfortunately there are not many renders available at the time being.
Only a small one as seen form the river Main:

http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/9949/unbenannt2kopiezr6.jpg
Picture: DIC

So i decided to create a few "renderings" by my own with the help og google sketchup warehouse and google maps, some renders may vary in the facade design of the winx tower, that comes because i am still working on the renders.

At the beginning i was not happy with the city counsil shortening the tower by 50m, but now in context with the banking district i start to like it.

Beginnings:

http://www.ld-host.de/uploads/images/2ce8125d2f12a6c1a2417e403d598b95.jpg

http://www.ld-host.de/uploads/images/d0a17cb7fa836082627286f0486c245b.jpg

Evolution:

http://www.ld-host.de/uploads/images/2ce8125d2f12a6c1a2417e403d598b95.jpg

http://www.ld-host.de/uploads/images/be529ae86916149468e5766e7ce53a2e.jpg

http://www.ld-host.de/uploads/images/7f35c1e6998dbcc21e11f97cdee03988.jpg

http://www.ld-host.de/uploads/images/d452fc9239ffc33f7b6b41b7befb2bc6.jpg

http://www.ld-host.de/uploads/images/8912d1dbd42925f27da9e5af01b92a98.jpg

http://www.ld-host.de/uploads/images/c118b42b80cfe4f0a1c1b170bdd9a324.jpg

http://www.ld-host.de/uploads/images/db3a4e150db1103ef25dba27360f93e5.jpg

http://www.ld-host.de/uploads/images/482f27a8be5dfa306ebe8ca2a4f9fb4e.jpg

http://www.ld-host.de/uploads/images/edf284638ac14070c46c739cd211c579.jpg

Evolution II:

http://www.ld-host.de/uploads/images/8af113fe247063abe7960fe68528bb32.jpg

Evolution III:

http://www.ld-host.de/uploads/images/bef58d34be57206fb59960f370c1b88a.jpg

http://www.ld-host.de/uploads/images/e4e7b8359e735b81a387fd2ffc57f51f.jpg




I hope these little tryouts with sketchup gives u an impression of the project which is about to start very soon.

Very good tryout! :applause: Very well done and illustrative. Gives a good impression of the future.

Good fillers!!! In the future it will be a impressive skyline!


:cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=yjE-dnbItXg

uprooting works for the fourth runway at frankfurt airport seems to have begun.:)

Some pictures I took yesterday of Palais Quartier:
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/1092/dscf1054kopiezu2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/dscf1054kopiezu2.jpg/1/w825.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img218/dscf1054kopiezu2.jpg/1/)

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/7861/dscf1084kopieah7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/dscf1084kopieah7.jpg/1/w1100.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img218/dscf1084kopieah7.jpg/1/)

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/295/dscf1087kopievh0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/dscf1087kopievh0.jpg/1/w1100.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img218/dscf1087kopievh0.jpg/1/)

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/9772/dscf1088kopiexx2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/dscf1088kopiexx2.jpg/1/w1100.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img222/dscf1088kopiexx2.jpg/1/)

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/346/dscf1099ssctd1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/dscf1099ssctd1.jpg/1/w825.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img222/dscf1099ssctd1.jpg/1/)

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/345/dscf1106kopiexg0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/dscf1106kopiexg0.jpg/1/w1100.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img222/dscf1106kopiexg0.jpg/1/)

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/8136/dscf1117kopietl9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/dscf1117kopietl9.jpg/1/w1100.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img222/dscf1117kopietl9.jpg/1/)

One of the best best buildings in frankfurt and maybe even in the world. The glass looks zo good and futuristic!

nice. did you post them in the palaisquartier thread?


there's some more news:


construction of an 18 storey tower in the city west, between the amex tower and the radisson tower, has been announced yesterday. construction starts this summer, and ends in 2011.

also: the new bahn tower could possibly be the new tallest in the city. according to internal sources the developer is working on something in the 250m range. the current tallest is 259m...construction is apparently starting this year.

The best skyline of the world

^^ +1!

palais-quarter`s shopping mall opened about 2weeks ago, and seems to be a big success (although the roof isn`t fully water-resistant yet :lol: )

some youtubevids
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2sorgKuMloo


more news:

new taunusturm-(former kaiserkarree) design will be revealed next monday. rumors say that the tower will be slim and about 160m tall added with a 50(60?)m residential-midrise next to it.

deutsche bahn signed a contract for office-space at the silver-tower of former dresdner-bank, so i wouldn`t bet for the bahntower to come this year or next..

The KfW
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/4794/img4803.jpg

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/8254/img4806v.jpg

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/3622/img4809.jpg

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/1305/img4808d.jpg

http://deutsche-boerse.com/mr/binary/0E65FFA6DB461A47C12574A50027A65E/$File/Deutsche%20Boerse%20new%20building.jpg?OpenElement

My pics from Saturday:
http://i42.tinypic.com/35daq1u.jpg

http://i42.tinypic.com/25stms9.jpg

http://i44.tinypic.com/33fgea1.jpg

http://i43.tinypic.com/11j5bpw.jpg

http://i39.tinypic.com/24erlhc.jpg

The Boersen cube will look awesome from the Autobahn. Nice little highrise cluster away from the main skyline.

The KFW facade turned out really great. Something we did not have in Frankfurt yet.

after opening of the palaisquartier-shoppingmall neighbouring zeilgalerie-owner ifm has published plans for renovation. zeilgalerie gets a new animated facade where art will be shown, a bigger entrance, and a more luxurious style in general.

renders:
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/7927/zeilgalerie4.jpg
http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/9006/zeilgalerie5.jpg
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/3382/zeilgalerie6.jpg

actual look, flickr-image:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3455/3318354099_f0f1c32407_b.jpg

^ Much needed and welcome. Next I hope the underground shops in Hauptwache gets a big makeover. Looks straight out of the 80's right now.

Wow, looks awesome. This mega screen will bring some Tokyo atmosphere to Frankfurt.

There are also plans to renovate the facades and shops just opposite of the MyZeil. Seems the new mall triggered lots of new developments in the city centre.

Indeed, that new facade is gorgeous. I love those illumination-animated facades, it's going to make the Zeil even more urban and vibrant.

After Zeilgalerie, Kaufhof and Allianz should install some nice illuminated advertisements or whatever. The Hauptwache would be some sort of Piccadilly Circus/Times Square for Frankfurt, which would be awesome.

Finally Zeilgalerie upgraded. That's good news!!!

some news:

the maintor development gets the go ahead. the first phase starts this year. the entire project will be completetd by 2014.

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/313/maintor3.jpg


http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/5034/maintor2.jpg


http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/1407/maintor1.jpg

^^^^

One of the most beautifull projects in terms of proportion a juwel!!!

http://images.google.be/url?source=imgres&ct=tbn&q=http://www.thehighrisepages.de/hhkartei/ffm_mtor.jpg&usg=AFQjCNFTeHgszo1-s5IkgurEuvYvyACq7A
http://images.google.be/url?source=imgres&ct=tbn&q=http://www.maintor-frankfurt.de/media/maintor/DIC_MT_Hochhaus.jpg&usg=AFQjCNFvya3T_Js8br0QlQ4Dg1aPScjUNA

Location:
http://images.google.be/url?source=imgres&ct=tbn&q=http://www.dic-asset.de/images/immobilien/portfolio/Frankfurt_Degussa/degussa1_gr.jpg&usg=AFQjCNGgHpNUFBDwvZBaZ9CqT4lxOsPhwQ
http://www.medienversand-bergmann.de/images/zzz123456/degussa/degussa01.jpg
http://www.medienversand-bergmann.de/images/zzz123456/degussa/degussa02.jpg
http://www.dic-asset.de/images/immobilien/portfolio/Frankfurt_Degussa/degussa3_gr.jpg
http://www.faz.net/m/%7BAA3BD962-91DF-469F-BF1E-3C8F39BA42F5%7DPicture.jpg
http://images.google.be/url?source=imgres&ct=tbn&q=http://img9.myimg.de/Frankfurt011e49b.jpg&usg=AFQjCNFgwcqspbkmQy0hS6o-XLY8kD_ceQ


Impact on the skyline:
http://www.dic-asset.de/images/immobilien/portfolio/Frankfurt_Degussa/DIC_Maintor_1_gr.jpg
http://images.google.be/url?source=imgres&ct=tbn&q=http://img3.myimg.de/Maintor297bd1.jpg&usg=AFQjCNHDq5KEFQUS1iGa-zftb2dZR52UIQ


Frankfurt is stunning they will have a crazy skyline by a couple of years!!! And many other towers are rising i think the coming 5 years 15 new towers!

Is there a list of crapers with there status?

^^ Of course there is ;)


See this (by Gizmo23 @ DAF):

(Everything's in German, but the smileys will tell you something about the status. Otherwise use Google Translator or whatever.

Last updated: 23rd of February 2009)


Aktuelle Übersicht, Hochhäuser ab 60m, Stand: 23.02.2009

Hochhäuser in Bau

:applause: Tower 185 (185m):
Das Grundstück der ehemaligen Zentrale der Deutschen Bahn an der Friedrich-Ebert-Anlage wurde 1998 in den Hochhausrahmenplan aufgenommen, konkrete Planungen gab es in den Folgejahren allerdings nicht. Anfang 2007 wurden die Bahn-Gebäude abgerissen. Im Sommer 2007 berichteten u.a. die FAZ und das Property Magazine, dass PricewaterhouseCoopers Ankermieter im geplanten Tower 185 werde. Erst Ende Mai 2008 bestätigten PwC und Vivico den Mietvertrag über 60.000 qm offiziell bei der Vorstellung des Projekts. Der Turm wird die neue Firmenzentrale von PwC. Der 185 Meter hohe Doppelturm, entworfen von Christoph Mäckler, wird insgesamt ca. 90.000 qm Mietfläche auf 50 Stockwerken umfassen. An PwC sind damit ca. 65% der Gesamtfläche bereits vermietet. Ende August 2008 starteten die ersten Arbeiten auf dem Grundstück, im Herbst soll die Baugrube begonnen werden. Die Fertigstellung des Hochhauses ist für Ende 2011 geplant, die Sockelgebäude sollen bereits im Herbst 2010 fertig sein.

:applause: OpernTurm (170m):
Der Opernturm entsteht auf dem Grundstück des abgerissenen 68 Meter hohen Zürich-Hauses (1960-2002) am Opernplatz. 1998 plante der Grundstückseigentümer, die Zürich-Versicherung, den Abriss des denkmalgeschützten Gebäudes um einen 90 Meter hohen Neubau zu errichten. Nach langen Verhandlungen mit der Stadt, die den Entwurf ablehnte, einigte man sich auf einen wesentlich höheren, dafür aber schlankeren Turm mit 168 Metern und auf die Aufhebung des Denkmalschutzes. Nach dem Abriss des Zürich-Hauses lag das Gelände jahrelang brach, da die Zürich-Versicherung die Planung des neuen Hochhauses wegen wirtschaftlicher Probleme nicht mehr verfolgte. 2004 wurde es an den Projektentwickler Tishman Speyer verkauft. Seit Januar 2007 wird nun der Opernturm gebaut, die Fertigstellung ist für Ende 2009 geplant. 2008 soll der Rohbau abgeschlossen werden, bezugsfertig soll der Turm Ende 2009 sein. Das Hochhaus wird 42 Stockwerke und ca. 62.500 qm vermietbare Fläche haben. Rund 31.000 qm sind von der UBS Deutschland AG angemietet worden, weitere 3.000 qm von Morgan Lewis & Bockius LLP in der 26. und 27. Etage. Damit liegt der Vermietungsstand bei ca. 54%. Der angrenzende Rothschildpark wird durch den Neubau um 5.500 qm vergrößert.

:applause: Turm am Thurn-und-Taxis-Platz/PalaisQuartier (136m):
2002 erwarb der niederländische Investor MAB ein etwa 1,7 Hektar großes innerstädtisches Areal zwischen der Zeil und dem Eschenheimer Tor von der Deutschen Telekom. Das zunächst "Zeil-Projekt", dann "FrankfurtHochVier" und schließlich "PalaisQuartier" genannte Großbauprojekt umfasst den Bau eines neuen Einkaufszentrums, zwei Hochhäusern mit Büro- und Hotelnutzung sowie die Rekonstruktion des 1951 fast völlig abgerissenen Palais Thurn-und-Taxis. 2004 begann der Abriss der Bestandsgebäude, darunter die ehemalige Hauptpost an der Zeil und das 69 Meter hohe Fernmeldehochhaus von 1956. Zunächst wurde mit dem Einkaufszentrum und der Tiefgarage begonnen, der Hochbau des Büroturms begann im Sommer 2007. Das Hochhaus wird ca. 47.650 qm BGF auf 32 Stockwerken haben. Die Fertigstellung des Gesamtkomplexes war zunächst für Herbst 2008 geplant gewesen, mittlerweile ist Herbst 2009 in Aussicht gestellt worden. Nach Angaben des Projektentwicklers sind 35% der Flächen im Büroturm bereits vermietet. Ob es sich bei dem Mieter um ABN Amro handelt, wie die FAZ vermutet, wurde nicht kommentiert.

:applaus:e Hotel am Thurn-und-Taxis-Platz/Palais Quartier (99m):
Bestandteil des Großbauprojekts "Palais Quartier". Ende Januar 2008 wurde mit dem Hochbau des Hotelturms begonnen, die Fertigstellung soll im Herbst 2009 erfolgen. Ein Betreibervertrag wurde bisher noch nicht geschlossen, laut Projektentwickler Bouwfonds MAB gebe es die Tendenz zu einem 5-Sterne-Hotel und man könne aus fünf Interessierten wählen. Der Hotelturm wird ca. 22.000 qm BGF haben.

Baubeginn für 2009/2010 angekündigt

:okay: Neubau der Europäischen Zentralbank (185m):
1998 begann die EZB mit der Suche nach einem geeigneten Grundstück für einen Neubau um alle Mitarbeiter an einem Standort vereinen zu können. Aus 35 Arealen wählte man schließlich das Grundstück der ehemaligen Großmarkthalle im Ostend. 2002 wurde der Kaufvertrag mit der Stadt unterzeichnet. Im Februar 2004 ging der Entwurf eines etwa 150 Meter hohen Doppelturms des Architekturbüros Coop Himmelb(l)au als Sieger des Architekturwettbewerbs hervor. Anschließend wurde der Entwurf mehrfach überarbeitet, wobei auch die Höhe auf 185 Meter wuchs. 500 Millionen Euro soll der Neubau kosten und Platz für bis zu 2.300 Mitarbeiter bieten. Anfang 2006 wurde das Grundstück an die EZB übergeben, die Bauarbeiten sollten 2008 beginnen und 2011 abgeschlossen sein. Im April 2008 wurde mit vorbereitenden Maßnahmen, u.a. dem Abriss der Annexbauten der Großmarkthalle, begonnen. Im Juni 2008 erließ die EZB überraschend einen Baustopp, da kein Generalunternehmer für den Bau gefunden worden war. Die EZB hatte mit Baukosten in Höhe von 500-850 Mio. Euro gerechnet, aber nur ein einziges Angebot einer Arbeitsgemeinschaft von BAM und Züblin zu 1,4 Mrd. Euro erhalten. Im Dezember 2008 gab die EZB bekannt, dass sie den Bau erneut ausschreiben werde, diesmal allerdings nicht als Ganzes sondern aufgeteilt in 15 getrennte Gewerke. Am Kostenrahmen von 500 Mio. Euro will die EZB festhalten und Ende 2009 aufgrund der dann vorliegenden Angebote entscheiden, ob gebaut wird oder nicht. Falls die Entscheidung positiv ausfällt könnte der Neubau 2013 fertiggestellt und Anfang 2014 bezogen werden. Im Februar 2009 startet die EZB den ersten Teil ihrer neuen Ausschreibung, dabei zeigte sich Lorenzo Bini Smaghi, Mitglied des Direktoriums der EZB, in einem Interview zuversichtlich, dass Anfang 2010 der Bau starten könne.

:okay: TaunusTurm (160m):
Das Projekt im Bankenviertel, auch bekannt als "Kaiserkarree", wurde 1998 im Hochhausrahmenplan mit einer Höhe von 135 Metern genehmigt. Im März 2000 gewann das Architekturbüro Gruber + Kleine-Kraneburg einen Architekturwettbewerb der Commerzbank. 2005 wurde die Baugenehmigung erteilt. Ende 2007 wurden die Bestandsgebäude geräumt. Im Dezember 2007 gab die Commerzbank bekannt, dass das Grundstück mit dem Hochhausprojekt an Tishman Speyer und Commerz Real verkauft wurde. Das Hochhaus mit 80.000 qm BGF (davon 5.900 qm für Wohnungen) auf 37 Stockwerken sollte ursprünglich von Frühjahr 2008 bis Anfang 2011 gebaut werden, jedoch erfolgte der Baubeginn nicht wie geplant. Im Mai 2008 berichtete die FAZ, dass die Gestalt des Turms noch einmal grundlegend überarbeitet werden soll, u.a. soll der Turm höher und schlanker ausfallen. Die neue Planung sollte im Herbst 2008 offiziell vorgestellt werden, was aber nicht geschah. Im Februar 2009 wurde im Rahmen einer Pressekonferenz des städtischen Planungsdezernats und der Bauaufsicht bekannt, dass voraussichtlich noch diesem Jahr mit dem Bau begonnen werden soll, da ein Mieter gefunden wurde. Dabei wurde auch die neue Höhe von etwa 160 Metern bestätigt. Commerzbank Real wollte sich nicht äußern, da man sich noch in Gesprächen befinde. Am 16. März will Planungsdezernent Schwarz das Projekt offiziell vorstellen. Neben dem jetzt "TaunusTurm" genannten Projekt wird es einen etwa 60 Meter hohen Turm mit 50 Wohnungen geben. Ob Eigentums- oder Mietwohnungen gebaut werden sollen ist noch nicht klar.

:okay: Grand Hyatt Hotel/Skyline Plaza (150m):
Bestandteil des Großbauprojekts "Skyline Plaza", früher bekannt als "Urban Entertainment Center". Im Hochhausrahmenplan 1998 wurde ein 160 Meter hoher Hotelturm (Tower 2) genehmigt. Im Januar 2008 schlossen der Grundstückseigentümer Vivico und Hyatt International einen Betreibervertrag für den Hotelturm, der rund 150 Meter hoch werden soll. Der Turm wird über eine Bruttogeschossfläche von ca. 54.300 qm verfügen. Das "Grand Hyatt Frankfurt" wird ein 5-Sterne-Plus-Hotel mit etwa 405 Zimmern, Restaurants, Bars, einem Fitness- und Wellnessbereich sowie einem öffentlich zugänglichen Besucher-Center in 100 Metern Höhe. In den oberen Geschossen sind Luxuswohnungen vorgesehen. Nach Berlin wird es das zweite Haus der Premium-Gruppe in Deutschland. Viador, ein Joint Venture zwischen der Feuring Group und Vivico, wird das Projekt und den Betrieb weiter begleiten. Vivico realisiert das Hotel bis zur schlüsselfertigen Übergabe und wird etwa 200 Millionen Euro investieren. Es ist geplant den Hotelturm gleichzeitig mit dem Einkaufszentrum zu bauen. Im 1. Quartal 2009 soll ein Architekturwettbewerb für den Turm ausgeschrieben werden, die Ergebnisse sollen im Sommer vorliegen. Auf der Basis des Siegerentwurfs wird dann ein Bauantrag gestellt. Der Baubeginn könnte noch im Jahr 2009 erfolgen.

:okay: West Tower (70m)
Nach einem Entwurf des Architekten Ingenhoven von 2001 sollte der "City West Tower" in der Nähe des Opelrondells im Westen Frankfurts 75 Meter hoch werden, die Realisierung scheiterte allerdings. Im November 2008 kauften die Strabag Real Estate und der Frankfurter Projektentwickler Arthur Wiener das brachliegende Grundstück. Spekulativ soll nun ein von msm meyer schmitz-morkramer entworfener Büroturm mit 26.000 qm errichtet werden, der Name verkürzt sich dabei auf "West Tower". Er wird 18 Stockwerke hoch werden und durch ein siebenstöckiges Gebäude namens "West Wing" ergänzt werden. Baubeginn ist im Sommer 2009, die Fertigstellung soll Anfang 2011 erfolgen.

:okay: Hochhaus Weißfrauenstraße/MainTor (60m):
Teil des Projekts "MainTor". Das Hochhaus soll im ersten Bauabschnitt ab Mitte 2009 gebaut werden.

Genehmigte Projekte

:? Millennium Tower (350m):
1996 hatte die Deutsche Bahn beschlossen den Hauptgüterbahnhof in Frankfurt zu schließen und die frei werdenden Flächen zu vermarkten. 1998 erstellten Albert Speer & Partner ein Konzept für einen 369 Meter hohen Wolkenkratzer mit 204.000 qm Bruttogeschossfläche auf 97 Stockwerken. Es sollte das höchste Hochhaus in Europa werden. Der Plan wurde im gleichen Jahr von der Stadt genehmigt, 2001 wurde Baurecht erteilt. Ende 2000 plante der New Yorker Immobilien-Tycoon Donald Trump den Millennium Tower als höchsten Wohnturm der Welt zu bauen, doch Ende 2001 zog sich Trump aus dem Vorhaben zurück. Erst im Oktober 2007 gab es wieder ein Lebenszeichen vom Millennium Tower: Auf der Immoblienmesse Cityscape in Dubai präsentierte Grundstückseigentümer Vivico das Projekt für ausländische Investoren. Der Turm soll maximal 350 Meter hoch werden und als Europazentrale für global agierende Unternehmen vermarktet werden. Die etwa 200.000 qm Fläche sollen zu 70% als Büro- und zu 30% als Wohnfläche aufgeteilt werden. Die Architektur steht noch nicht fest. Vivico zeigte sich zufrieden mit dem Messeauftritt: es seien einige vielversprechende Gespräche geführt worden.

:mad: MAX (228m):
Die Deutsche Bank plante das MAX-Hochhaus im Bankenviertel Ende der 1990er Jahre. Es wurde 1998 im Hochhausrahmenplan genehmigt. Es war vorgesehen MAX von 2003 bis 2006 anstelle des Händlerzentrums der Bank zu bauen, die Händler sollten in den Naubau Investment Banking Center umziehen. Nach den Terroranschlägen vom 11. September 2001 wurde das Projekt allerdings komplett gestoppt. Die Händler blieben auch nach Fertigstellung des IBCs an ihrem alten Standort. 2007 erklärte ein Sprecher der Deutschen Bank auf Nachfrage, dass die Planungen zwar nicht aufgegeben, aber derzeit auch nicht aktiv verfolgt würden.

:? Marieninsel (210m):
2004 schlossen sich die drei Grückstückseigentümer Deka-Bank Deutsche Girozentrale, DB Real Estate und Degi zu einer Projektgemeinschaft zusammen, um den Bau eines bis zu 250 Meter hohen Hochhauses im Bankenviertel an der Marienstraße zu prüfen. Erste Vorentwürfe erarbeitete der Architekt Dieter Köhler. Er schlug dabei vor, dass 75 Meter hohe Hochhaus T11, das sich auf dem Grundstück befindet, zugunsten des Neubaus abzureißen. Für die Projektgemeinschaft ging es vor allem darum, sich eine Option für die Zukunft zu sichern, da man eher nicht vor 2010 mit dem Bau beginnen werde. In einem Interview mit dem TOP Magazin Frankfurt sagte Köhler im Frühjahr 2008, dass in dem Hochhaus Büros und ein Hotel untergebracht werden sollen. Das Projekt wurde, allerdings auf 210 Meter gekürzt, im Hochhausrahmenplan 2008 von der Stadt genehmigt.

:mad: Tower 1/Skyline Plaza (210m):
Das Großbauprojekt "Skyline Plaza" soll auf dem ehemaligen Gelände des Hauptgüterbahnhofs entstehen. Erste Planungen für ein "Urban Entertainment Center" nach amerikanischem Vorbild gab es bereits Ende der 1990er Jahre. Als Hauptattraktion war ein Musical vorgesehen. 1998 wurden im Hochhausrahmenplan zwei Hochhäuser für den Gebäudekomplex genehmigt: Ein 210 Meter hoher Büroturm (Tower 1) und ein 160 Meter hoher Hotelturm (Tower 2). 2002 wurde die Idee eines Musicals aufgegeben, in der Folgezeit wurden verschiedene Alternativen (u.a. ein Planetarium und ein Multiplexkino) aufgezeigt. Schließlich forderten die Investoren, Vivico und ECE, eine Ausweitung der 2001 durch die Stadt festgelegten Einzelhandelsfläche um 30%. Der Wunsch wurde allerdings abgelehnt. Im Januar 2008 wurde mit Hyatt International ein Betreibervertrag für den Hotelturm unterzeichnet, im März 2008 gab es eine Einigung mit der Stadt bezüglich des Einkaufszentrums. Die bislang geforderte "überregionale Attraktion" hat das "Skyline Plaza" nun nicht mehr zu bieten, dafür entsteht ein neues Kongresszentrum für die benachbarte Messe. Der Bau soll 2009 beginnen. Der Büroturm, der gemäß Baurecht ca. 95.000 qm Fläche haben darf, wird aber zunächst nicht gebaut, so Vivico-Geschäftsführer Hansen im Januar 2008.

:okay: Bahn-Tower Frankfurt (200m):
Stadtplaner Jochem Jourdan hatte 2007 an der Südseite des Hauptbahnhofs einen bis zu 180 Meter hohen Turm vorgeschlagen der als "Landmark" abseits der Hochhauspulks zur Geltung kommen sollte. Der politisch vorbelastete Standort - in den 1980er Jahren sollte hier ein bis zu 300 Meter hohes Gebäude mit dem Namen Campanile entstehen, was aber scheiterte - sorgte in der schwarz-grünen Koalition für heftige Diskussionen. 2008 einigte man sich schließlich auf eine maximale Höhe von lediglich 100 Metern mit der Vorgabe, dass auf dem Grundstück auch ein neuer Busbahnhof entstehen solle. Im April 2008 kündigte ein Sprecher des Grundstückeigentümers Vivico an man wolle "so schnell wie möglich" mit der Stadt über die Bebauung sprechen. Im September 2008 meldeten verschiedene Printmedien, dass es eine Einigung zwischen Vivico und der Stadt gebe: Der Turm darf demnach ca. 200 Meter hoch werden, Hauptmieter wird die Deutsche Bahn. 3.000 Arbeitsplätze der Bahn sollen im Bahn-Tower unterkommen, außerdem verpflichtet sich die Bahn langfristig den geplanten Busbahnhof zu betreiben. Bestrebungen der Bahn, ihre in der Rhein-Main-Region zerstreuten Aktivitäten des Konzerns an einem Ort zu bündeln, waren schon länger bekannt. Überlegungen, einen 200-Meter-Turm in der Nähe des Bahn-Sitzes im Europaviertel zu bauen, waren von Planungsdezernent Schwarz zuvor abgelehnt worden.

:? Hochhauskomplex Neue Mainzer Straße/Frankfurter Sparkasse/Württembergische Versicherung (197m):
Das Hochhausprojekt wurde im Rahmenplan 1998 beschlossen. Der Doppelturm soll auf Grundstücken der Frankfurter Sparkasse und der Württembergischen Versicherung entstehen. KSP Engel und Zimmergewann gewannen im März 2001 den ausgelobten Architekturwettbewerb. Das Hochhaus sollte spätestens 2005 bezugsfertig sein, da man noch vor dem MAX-Hochhaus der Deutschen Bank am Immobilienmarkt sein wollte. In der Folgezeit wurde das Projekt allerdings, wie so viele, gestoppt. Erst 2006 gab es Neuigkeiten vom Hochhauskomplex: Nach einem FAZ-Bericht vom Juni wird das Gebäude vermarktet. Es wurde der UBS angeboten, die dann allerdings dem Opernturm den Vorzug gaben.

:okay: Hochhaus Platz der Republik/DZ Bank (175m):
Im August 2007 wurde bekannt, dass die DZ Bank die Errichtung eines dritten Hochhauses am Platz der Republik mit etwa 180 Metern Höhe erwäge. Ein erster Vorentwurf wurde vom Architekten Christoph Mäckler erarbeitet. Der Standort wurde nachträglich in den Entwurf für den neuen Hochhausrahmenplan aufgenommen, eine Einigung konnte die schwarz-grüne Koalition aber nicht erzielen, da Bedenken über eine zusätzliche Verschattung des Westends geäußert wurden. Im April 2008 wurde der Turm abgelehnt. Im Juni 2008 berichtete die FAZ, dass die DZ Bank das Projekt nicht aufgegeben habe. Man plane weiterhin einen ca. 230 Meter hohen Turm für etwa 4.800 Mitarbeiter. Ein von der Bank in Auftrag gegebenes Verschattungsgutachten, welches die Auswirkungen eher gering einschätzt, liege vor. Zudem solle das Union-Investment-Hochhaus im Bahnhofsviertel zu einem Wohnturm umgewandelt werden, um die von der Stadt generell geforderten 30% Wohnanteil zu erfüllen. Im Zuge der weltweiten Finanzkrise änderte schließlich auch die schwarz-grüne Koalition ihre Meinung zu dem Projekt und einigte sich im Oktober 2008 auf ein Hochhaus mit 175 Metern Höhe. Der Vorschlag der DZ Bank, den Wohnanteil im Union-Investment-Hochhaus zu realisieren, wurde aufgenommen, außerdem muss sich die Bank verpflichten den neuen Turm nur zum Eigenbedarf zu nutzen und dort neue Arbeitsplätze anzusiedeln. Die DZ Bank plant derzeit für 2009 eine Fusion mit der WGZ Bank. Der Sitz des neuen Zentralinstituts der Volks- und Raiffeisenbanken soll Frankfurt werden.

:mad: Metzler Bank/LHB Internationale Handelsbank (175m):
Das Hochhausprojekt wurde im Rahmenplan 1998 beschlossen und soll auf Grundstücken der Metzler Bank und der LHB Internationale Handelsbank enstehen. Es war geplant, dass der Turm komplett vermietet wird. Es gab Überlegungen, dass die Metzler Bank in einen von ihr gebauten Neubau am Mainufer umziehen wolle, 2004 wurde der Neubau allerdings an Dritte vermietet. 2007 teilte die Bank auf Nachfrage mit, dass die Planung nicht aufgegeben sei, man verfolge sie derzeit aber auch nicht aktiv.

:? Hochhaus Güterplatz/Telenorma-Areal (160m):
Für das Grundstück der 1993 abgebrochenen Bauten von Telenorma an der Ecke Mainzer Landstraße/Güterplatz bemühte sich der Eigentümer Robert Bosch GmbH Ende der 1990er Jahre um die Genehmigung für einen Hochhausneubau. Bei den Verhandlungen über den Hochhausrahmenplan 1998 konnten sich die Stadt allerdings nicht darauf verständigen, die Entscheidung wurde zurückgestellt. 2003 entwarf der Architekt Dieter Köhler im Auftrag von Bosch einen 160 Meter hohen Turm für das Grundstück, von dem sich auch die politischen Parteien sehr angetan zeigten. Im Mai 2007 wurde das Projekt durch einen Bebauungsplan beschlossen und 2008 nachträglich in den neuen Hochhausrahmenplan aufgenommen. Kurz darauf (Mai 2008) meldete die Immobilien Zeitung, dass die IVG Immobilien plane das Hochhaus bis 2010 zu bauen. Bei rund 350 Mio. Euro Gesamtinvestitionsvolumen sollen neben Büroflächen ein Vivat-Gesundheitszentrum, Einzelhandelsflächen und ein großflächiges Gastronomiekonzept entstehen.

:mad: Hochhaus Ehemaliges Polizeipräsidium (145m):
Genehmigt im Hochhausrahmenplan 1998. Das Grundstück gehört dem Land Hessen, ein möglicher Verkauf an einen privaten Investor soll bisher an zu hohen Preisvorstellungen gescheitert sein.

:mad: Hochhaus Poseidon-Areal (140m):
Das Poseidon-Haus an der Messe gegenüber dem Plaza Büro Center stand jahrelang leer. 2007 wurde der Standort für einen bis zu 170 Meter hohen Wolkenkratzer ins Gespräch gebracht. Im März 2008 mietete der Sparkassen Giroverband Hessen-Thüringen 3.000 qm Bürofläche für drei Jahre, da deren Hauptsitz in dieser Zeit erneuert wird. Im Oktober des gleichen Jahres mietete die Commerzbank 8.000 qm für zunächst zwei Jahre. Damit sind die Hochhausplanungen erst einmal in die Zukunft verschoben. Im Hochhausrahmenplan wurde der Standort genehmigt, allerdings nur mit 140 Metern Höhe.

:? Campus Bockenheim Büroturm 1 (140m):
Bis 2014 soll die Goethe-Universität das Campusgelände in Bockenheim komplett geräumt haben. Beschlossen ist dabei auch der Abriss des AfE-Turms (116m) von 1972. An dessen Stelle sollen drei neue Hochhäuser entstehen, so wurde es 2008 im Hochhausrahmenplan beschlossen. Einen konkreten Zeitplan zur Neubebaung des Grundstücks gibt es noch nicht.

:mad: Hochhaus Frankfurter Sparkasse/Landeszentralbank (130m):
Genehmigt im Hochhausrahmenplan 1998. Für das Projekt gibt es noch keine konkrete Planung. Die Frankfurter Sparkasse hat ihrem zweiten Hochhausprojekt, dem Hochhauskomplex Neue Mainzer Straße, Priorität eingeräumt.

:) Hochhaus an der Matthäuskirche (130m):
2002 entschied der Evangelische Regionalverband die Matthäuskirche an der Friedrich-Ebert-Anlage abzureissen und das Grundstück zu verkaufen. Durch Proteste der Gemeinde und das nachlassende Investoreninteresse infolge der flauen Wirtschaftsentwicklung verzögerte sich allerdings der Plan. 2007 schlug Stadtplaner Jourdan einen Kompromiss vor: Die Kirche bleibt größtenteils erhalten, dafür wird direkt dahinter ein 130-Meter-Turm gebaut, der mit der Kirche verbunden sein wird. Ein Investor stehe dafür bereit. Im September 2007 bestätigte der Evangelische Regionalverband, dass Gespräche mit einem ungenannten Investor geführt werden. Fünf Architekten sollen Vorschläge für das Hochhaus machen. Im Dezember wurde der Verkauf des Grundstücks an den Investor zugestimmt. Ob es sich dabei um die Helaba handelt, wie die FAZ im Februar 2008 schrieb, wurde nicht bestätigt. Die Verhandlungen sind noch nicht abgeschlossen. Das Hochhausprojekt wurde im Hochhausrahmenplan 2008 genehmigt.

:? Messe Torhaus 2 (112m):
Gegenüber dem IBC an der Omegabrücke könnte ein Hochhaus in gleicher Höhe entstehen. Die Pläne der Messe für ein neues Hochhaus liegen schon lange in der Schublade, offenbar hat sie es mit der Realisierung aber nicht eilig. Für das Projekt besteht seit zehn Jahren Planungsrecht.

:? Hochhaus Postareal am Hafentunnel (110m)
Genehmigt im Hochhausrahmenplan 2008.

:okay: WinX/MainTor (100m):
Das seit den 1950er Jahren durch die Degussa gewerblich genutzte Areal zwischen Main, Bankenviertel und Altstadt wurde 2005 durch die DIC und Morgan Stanley Real Estate Fund erworben. 2007 wurden erste Planungen unter dem Namen "MainTor" zur Umnutzung und Umgestaltung des Grundstücks vorgestellt. Diese sahen vor fast alle Gebäude abzureißen und neu zu bauen, inklusive eines 150 Meter hohen Turms namens "WinX" in der Mitte des Areals und eines etwa 60 Meter hohen Hochhauses an der nordwestlichen Ecke. Das Stadtparlament zeigte sich mit der Hochhausplanung allerdings nicht einverstanden und schlug mehrere kleine Hochhäuser für das Aral vor. Schließlich wurde im November 2007 zwischen DIC und der Stadt eine Einigung erzielt: Der "WinX"-Turm darf nur 100 Meter hoch werden, dafür entsteht an der nordöstlichen Ecke ein drittes Hochhaus mit 60 Metern Höhe. Es entstehen etwa 105.000 qm Wohn- und Büroflächen, Einzelhandel und Gastronomie. DIC plant in der zweiten Jahreshälte 2009 nordöstlich an der Weißfrauenstraße mit dem Bau zu beginnen, der "WinX"-Turm wird erst im zweiten Bauabschnitt im Januar 2011 begonnen. Die Gesamtinvestition beträgt 500 Millionen Euro.

:? Campus Bockenheim Büroturm 2 (100m):
Geplant als eines von drei neuen Hochhäusern anstelle des AfE-Turms auf dem Campusgelände in Bockenheim. Bis 2014 soll die Goethe-Uni den Standort komplett räumen. Genehmigt im Hochhausrahmenplan 2008.

:? Hochhausportal Emser Brücke, Nordturm/Europaviertel (100m)
Genehmigt im Hochhausrahmenplan 2008.

:? Hochhausportal Emser Brücke, Südturm/Europaviertel (80m)
Genehmigt im Hochhausrahmenplan 2008.

:? Campus Bockenheim Wohnturm (70m):
Geplant als eines von drei neuen Hochhäusern anstelle des AfE-Turms auf dem Campusgelände in Bockenheim. Bis 2014 soll die Goethe-Uni den Standort komplett räumen. Genehmigt im Hochhausrahmenplan 2008.

:okay: Hochhaus Neue Mainzer Straße/MainTor (60m):
Teil des Projekts "MainTor". Die Bauarbeiten für das gesamte Areal sollen abschnittsweise 2009 beginnen und bis 2013 komplett abgeschlossen sein.

:? Wohnhochhaus Allianz/Taunusanlage (60m):
Bereits 1998 diskutierte die Stadt darüber, ob die Allianz auf ihrem Grundstück an der Taunusanlage ein 90 Meter hohes Hochhaus bauen dürfe. Eine Entscheidung wurde damals nicht getroffen. 2007 griff Stadtplaner Jourdan den Standort bei der Diskussion über den neuen Rahmenplan wieder auf - bei etwa gleicher Höhe. Zwischenzeitlich hatte die Allianz ihre Vorstellungen über das Projekt allerdings geändert. Man wollte, wie es die benachbarte Zürich-Versicherung beim Opernturm erfolgreich vorgemacht hatte, eine Höhe von etwa 170 Metern durchsetzen. Im Herbst 2007 soll die Allianz mit zwei Varianten bei Oberbürgermeisterin Roth vorstellig geworden sein: Zum einen wäre ein 90-Meter-Turm mit einem Fünf-Sterne-Hotel und 30.000 qm Bürofläche denkbar, zum anderen ein deutlich schlankerer 160-Meter-Turm mit Wohnungen in den oberen Geschossen. Die Allianz konnte sich allerdings mit beiden Varianten nicht durchsetzen. Im Rahmenplan 2008 ist nur eine maximale Höhe von 60 Metern zulässig, zudem müssen in dem Turm maßgeblich Wohnungen entstehen. Hauptargument gegen einen höheren Turm ist, dass dadurch der Opernplatz verschattet würde.

:? Hotel Osthafenmole (60m):
Der Standort für ein Hotel-Hochhaus in der Nähe des neuen Hauptsitzes der Europäischen Zentralbank im Ostend war von Planungsdezernent Schwarz vorgeschlagen worden obwohl mit Ausnahme der EZB eigentlich keine weiteren Hochhäuser im Ostend entstehen sollten. Stadtplaner Jourdan schlug eine Höhe von ca. 140 Metern vor. In Verhandlungen über den Hochhausrahmenplan 2008 wurde der Standort zwar genehmigt, allerdings wurde die Höhe drastisch auf maximal 60 Meter begrenzt.

:? Hochhaus Mainzer Landstraße 36 (60m):
Das Gebäude Mainzer Landstraße 36 steht seit dem Auszug der Société Générale im Jahr 2007 leer. Britische Investoren planen an dieser Stelle einen Büroturm mit 15.000 qm Fläche und ein Nachbargebäude mit 13 Wohnungen und 1.000 qm. Das Projekt ist im Römer vertraulich vorgestellt worden. Projektentwickler ist der frühere Frankfurter Planungsdezernen Martin Wentz. Genehmigt im Hochhausrahmenplan 2008.

:? Hochhausportal Europagarten-Ost, Nordturm/Europaviertel (60m)
Zunächst waren sogar 100m Höhe vorgeschlagen worden. Genehmigt im Hochhausrahmenplan 2008.

:? Hochhausportal Europagarten-Ost, Südturm/Europaviertel (60m)
Genehmigt im Hochhausrahmenplan 2008.

:? Hochhaus Vorplatz Festhalle (60m)
Im Rahmen der Umgestaltung des Vorplatzes der Festhalle am Messegelände soll zwischen Festhalle und Messeturm ein Gebäude gebaut werden, welches die gleiche Höhe wie das benachbarte Congress Center hat. Es könnte Gastronomie, Ausstellungen oder ein Messemuseum beherbergen. Der umstrittene Standort wurde 2008 genehmigt, jedoch muss das Gebäude so angeordnet werden, dass es den Blick auf die Festhalle nicht versperrt.

:? Wohnhochhaus Stiftstraße/Katzenpforte (60m):
Soll auf dem östlichen Teil des "Turmpalast-Areals" in der Innenstadt auf einem Grundstück der SEB entstehen. Der Bau ist nur möglich wenn die Grundstücksnachbarn ihre Zustimmung geben. Genehmigt im Hochhausrahmenplan 2008.

:? Wohnhochhaus Stiftstraße/Sireo-Telekom-Areal (60m):
Genehmigt im Hochhausrahmenplan 2008.

:okay: Airport Office Center/Flughafen Terminal 2 (60m):
Das Hochhaus mit ca. 45.000 qm Bürofläche wird vom Flughafenbetreiber Fraport geplant und könnte deren neues Vorstandsgebäude werden. Nach einem Bericht der FAZ vom September 2008 darf das Gebäude errichtet werden, zuvor hatte es Unstimmigkeiten zwischen der Stadt und Fraport gegeben, da die Stadt nicht in die Planungen eingeweiht war. Über das Design des Gebäudes ist noch nicht entschieden, zur Auswahl stehen Entwürfe von Schneider + Schuhmacher und von AS&P.

This could also help - Frankfurt Project Overview
(by Adama @ DAF - it's not that up-to-date, last update was Dec 08. I only translated the most important stuff)

Highrises

Completed (2004-2008)


Skyper
Neubau, 153,4m, 503.2 ft
-->DAF Thread, Information und Baudokumentation (http://deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/showthread.php?t=1447)<--
Externe Webseite:
http://www.skyper-frankfurt.de

Garden Towers (alte Helaba)
Neubau, 127m, 416 ft
-->DAF Thread, Information und Baudokumentation (http://deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/showthread.php?t=1447)<--
Externe Webseite:
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Parktower (ehe. DZ Hochhaus, auch bekannt als Tectum Tower)
Sanierung, Partieller Neubau; 115m, 377 ft
-->DAF Thread, Information und Baudokumentation, Diskussion (http://deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/showthread.php?t=3057)<--
Externe Webseite:
http://www.tectumtower.de/


Radisson SAS
Neubau, 87m, 285 ft
-->DAF Thread, Information, Diskussion und Baudokumentation, Gebäudepräsentation (http://deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/showthread.php?t=1778)<--
Externe Webseite:
http://www.frankfurt.radissonsas.com/


Lighttower
Sanierung, partieller Neubau, 80m, 262 ft
-->DAF Thread, Information, Diskussion und Baudokumentation (http://deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/showthread.php?t=1468)<--
Externe Webseite:
http://www.lighttower-frankfurt.de


Hochhaus K 26
Sanierung, partieller Neubau, 75m, 246 ft
-->DAF Thread, Information und Baudokumentation (http://deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/showthread.php?t=1447)<--
Externe Webseite:
http://www.k-26.de/


Sparkasse Informatik
Neubau, 70m, 229.6 ft
-->DAF Thread, Information und Baudokumentation, Diskussion (http://deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/showthread.php?t=2920)<--
Externe Webseite:
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Hochhaus Romeo und Julia
Sanierung, Aufstockung, 67m
-->DAF Thread, Information und Diskussion (http://deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/showthread.php?t=5393)<--
Externe Webseite:
http://www.ifm.ag/de/flash.html
http://www.romeoundjulia.ag/


WestendFirst
Gebäudesanierung, 51m, 167.3ft
-->DAF Thread, Information und Baudokumentation, Diskussion (http://deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/showthread.php?t=3588)<--
Externe Webseite: http://www.westendfirst.de/web.html


Unfallkasse Hessen
Neubau
-->DAF Thread, Information, Diskussion und Baudokumentation (http://deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/showthread.php?t=3917)<--
Externe Webseite:
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WestendDuo (Tower 24)
Neubau, 96,4m, 316.28 ft
-->DAF Thread, Information und Baudokumentation, Diskussion (http://deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/showthread.php?t=451)<--
Externe Webseite:
http://www.westendduo.com/


Maintriangel (Main Triangel)
Neubau, 59,6m, 195.5 ft
-->DAF Thread, Information und Baudokumentation, Diskussion (http://deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/showthread.php?t=3006)<--
Externe Webseite:
http://www.maintriangel.com/


NM 1, (Schweizer National Hochhaus)
Gebäudesanierung, 57m, 187 ft
-->DAF Thread, Information und Baudokumentation, Diskussion (http://deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/showthread.php?t=3508)<--
Externe Webseite:
www.nm-1.de


Kia Motors Europa Headquarter
Neubau, 50m, 164 ft
-->DAF Thread, Information und Baudokumentation, Diskussion (http://deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/showthread.php?t=4088)<--
Externe Webseite:
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U/C (Under Construction)

Tower 185 (neue PWC Zentrale)
Neubau (2008), 185m (~204m)
-->DAF Thread, Information und Diskussion, Baudokumentation (http://www.deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/showthread.php?t=6393)<--
Externe Webseite:
http://www.tower185.de


Skytower (neue EZB Zentrale)
Neubau (2009), 185m
-->DAF Thread, Information und Diskussion (http://deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/showthread.php?t=3202)<--
Externe Webseite:
http://www.ecb.int/ecb/premises/html/index.en.html
www.coop-himmelblau.at/
Hinweis: Momentan ist der Bauprozess unterbrochen, wird aller Voraussicht nach 2009 wieder aufgenommen


Opernturm (ehe. Zürich Planung am Opernplatz)
Neubau, 170m, 551.1 ft, Baubeginn: November 2006
-->DAF Thread, Information, Diskussion und Dokumentation (http://deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/showthread.php?t=1461)<--
Externe Webseite:
http://www.opernturm.com


Deutsche Bank Twins, Sanierung und Modernisierung
Sanierung, 2x 155m
-->DAF Thread, Information, Diskussion und Dokumentation (http://www.deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/showthread.php?t=6811)<--
Externe Webseite:
http://www.greentowers.de/




Tower am Thurn und Taxis Palais (Palaisquartier)
Neubau, 136m, 410.1 ft
-->DAF Thread, Information und Diskussion (http://deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/showthread.php?t=3014)<--
-->DAF Thread, Baudokumentation (http://deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/showthread.php?t=3007)<--
Externe Webseite:
http://www.Palaisquartier.de


Hotelturm am Thurn und Taxis Palais (Palaisquartier)
Neubau, 99m, 324.8 ft
-->DAF Thread, Information und Diskussion (http://deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/showthread.php?t=3014)<--
-->DAF Thread, Baudokumentation (http://deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/showthread.php?t=3007)<--
Zusatz: Baubeginn Hochbau 1. Quartal 2008, Kellerkasten bereits vollendet.
Externe Webseite:
http://www.Palaisquartier.de


Deutsche Börse Cube, Eschborn
Neubau Bürohochhaus, 92m
-->DAF Thread, Information und Baudokumentation, Diskussion (http://www.deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/showthread.php?t=7381)<--
Externe Webseite:
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Turmcenter (E14) Revitalisierung
Sanierung, 74m
-->DAF Thread, Information und Baudokumentation, Diskussion (http://www.deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/showthread.php?t=7578)<--
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KfW Bankengruppe: Westarkade
Neubau, 59m, 164 ft
-->DAF Thread, Information und Baudokumentation, Diskussion (http://deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/showthread.php?t=317)<--
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Bienenkorb-Hochhaus Konstabler
Sanierung, 43m, 141 ft
-->DAF Thread, Information und Diskussion (http://deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/showthread.php?t=5021)<--
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Definitely planned


Grand Hyatt Frankfurt (Tower Two) (Skyline Plaza Bestandteil)
Neubau, ~160m, 524 ft
-->DAF Thread, Information und Diskussion (http://deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/showthread.php?t=5144)<--
Externe Webseite:
http://www.vivico.de


Hochhaus Kaiserkarree
-Neubau ab 2009, 158m
-Neubau 2, Wohnturm 50m
-->DAF Thread, Information und Diskussion (http://deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/showthread.php?t=1645)<--
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WinX Hochhaus, Degussa Gelände
Neubau, ca. 100m
-->DAF Thread, Information, Spekulation und Diskussion (http://deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/showthread.php?t=3180)<--
Externe Webseite:
www.maintor-frankfurt.de/


Hochhaus Degussa Gelände 2
Neubau, ca. 60m
-->DAF Thread, Information, Spekulation und Diskussion (http://deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/showthread.php?t=3180)<--
Externe Webseite:
www.maintor-frankfurt.de/


Hochhaus Degussa Gelände 3
Neubau, ca. 60m
-->DAF Thread, Information, Spekulation und Diskussion (http://deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/showthread.php?t=3180)<--
Externe Webseite:
www.maintor-frankfurt.de/


Sanierung ehemaliges Degussa Hochhaus
Sanierung ca. 43m
-->DAF Thread, Information, Spekulation und Diskussion (http://deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/showthread.php?t=3180)<--
Externe Webseite:
www.maintor-frankfurt.de/



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Proposed Projects

Millenium Tower
Neubau, 370m, 1214 ft
-->DAF Thread, Information, Spekulation und Diskussion (http://deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/showthread.php?t=5123)<--
Externe Webseite:
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DZ Bank Neubau
Neubau, 230m
-->DAF Thread, Information, Spekulation und Diskussion (http://www.deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/showthread.php?t=6475)<--
Externe Webseite:
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Bahn-Tower (Campanile) am Hauptbahnhof
Neubau, 210m
-->DAF Thread, Information, Spekulation und Diskussion (http://www.deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/showthread.php?t=7625)<--
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Marieninsel (anstelle von Taunusanlage 11)
Neubau, 220m, 688 ft
-->DAF Thread, Information, Spekulation und Diskussion (http://deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/showthread.php?t=3864)<--
Externe Webseite:
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Tower One (Skyline Plaza Bestandteil)
Neubau, 210m, 688 ft
-->DAF Thread, Information, Spekulation und Diskussion (http://deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/showthread.php?t=5144)<--
Externe Webseite:
http://www.vivico.de


Hochhaus Güterplatz (Telenorma Gelände Bestandteil)
Neubau, 160m, 524 ft
-->DAF Thread, Information, Spekulation und Diskussion (http://deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/showthread.php?t=5094)<--
Externe Webseite:
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Allianz Hochhaus (Bestandteil Projekt Mainbuilding
Neubau, ca. 60m
-->DAF Thread, Information, Spekulation und Diskussion (http://deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/showthread.php?t=1648)<--
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Never realised Projects


Campanile
Neubau, 264m, 866 ft
-->DAF Thread, Information und Diskussion (http://deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/showthread.php?t=2446)<--
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Hochhaus MAX (Deutsche Bank Hochhaus)
Neubau, 228m, 748 ft
-->DAF Thread, Information, Spekulation und Diskussion und Diskussion (http://deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/showthread.php?t=2322)<--
Externe Webseite:
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Metzler Bank Hochhaus
Neubau, 175m, 574 ft
-->DAF Thread, Information, Spekulation und Diskussion (http://deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/showthread.php?t=467)<--
Externe Webseite:
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Turmhaus Höchst
Neubau, 120m, 393 ft
-->DAF Thread, Information, Spekulation und Diskussion (http://deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/showthread.php?t=1694)<--
Externe Webseite:
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Henninger Areal Hochhaus 2
Neubau, 80m, 262 ft
-->DAF Thread, Information, Spekulation und Diskussion (http://deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/showthread.php?t=413)<--
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Reconstructions

Completed (2004-2008)

Stadtbibliothek
Komplett Rekonstruktion
-->DAF Thread, Information, Baudokumentation und Diskussion (http://deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/showthread.php?t=2387)<--
Bild: -->Klick mich<-- (http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/7857/biblio2xw.jpg)
Externe Webseiten:
http://www.chm.de/de/oldbib.html
http://www.altfrankfurt.com/NeueStadt/Stadtbibliothek/


Villa Kennedy Deluxe Hotel
Teil Rekonstruktion, historisierender Neubau
-->DAF Thread, Information, Baudokumentation und Diskussion (http://deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/showthread.php?t=2534)<--
Bild: -->Klick mich<-- (http://www.deutsches-architektur-forum.de/Galerie/data/504/kennluft.jpg)
Film: http://www.fay.de/~upload/fay/mipim/kennedy.high.a.wmv
Externe Webseiten:
http://www.villakennedy.com/
http://www.fay.de/path/380bildergalerie/71bildergalerie.aspx#


Festhalle an der Messe
Rekonstruktion der historischen Fassade, Rotundenkuppel, Ecktürme
-->DAF Thread, Information und Diskussion (http://deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/showthread.php?t=4725)<--
Bild: -->Klick mich<-- (http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/2315/ffm4qr.jpg)-->Klick mich<-- (http://www.as-p.de/upload/images/1129549820-Festhalle-Top%20Kopie.jpg)
Film, sehr lohnenswert!: http://realmedia.messefrankfurt.com/ramgen/Festhalle_Rekonstruktion_256.rm
Externe Webseiten:
http://www.altfrankfurt.com/NeueStadt/SenckenbergAnlage/Festhalle/
http://www.messefrankfurt.com/festhalle/de/festhalle_aktuell_rekonstruktion.html

U/C (Under Construction)

Thurn und Taxis Palais (PalaisQuartier)
Komplett Rekonstruktion (Fassade)
-->DAF Thread, Information und Diskussion (http://deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/showthread.php?t=3014)<--
-->DAF Thread, Baudokumentation (http://deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/showthread.php?t=3007)<--
Bild: -->Klick mich<-- (http://img11.echo.cx/img11/1937/bild117gk.jpg)
Externe Webseiten:
http://www.frankfurthochvier.de
http://www.altfrankfurt.com/NeueStadt/GrEschenheimerStr/ThurnundTaxis/

Planned or Proposed

Neugestaltung Areal technisches Rathaus
Rekonstruktion von Teilen der ehemaligen Frankfurter Altstadt, vornehmlich Fachwerkhäuser. Vorangetrieben auch durch Bürgerinitiativen
-->DAF Thread, Information, Ideen und Diskussion (http://deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/showthread.php?t=3545)<--
Bild: -->Klick mich<-- (http://hometown.aol.de/DAForum/entwurf2.jpg)
Externe Webseiten:
www.frankfurter-altstadt.de
http://www.altfrankfurt.com/Altstadt/

Rathaustürme "Langer Franz, kleiner Cohn"
Teil-Rekonstruktion (Aufstockung)
-->DAF Thread, Information und Diskussion (http://deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/showthread.php?t=1188)<--
Bild: -->Klick mich<-- (http://www.deutsches-architektur-forum.de/Galerie/data/522/1zw.jpg)
Externe Webseiten:
http://www.freunde-frankfurts.de/projekte/langer_franz.htm
http://www.altfrankfurt.com/Altstadt/west/bethmannstrasse/Bethmannstr-Rathaus.htm


Historischer Festsaal des Gesellschaftshauses, Palmengarten
Innen-Rekonstruktion
-->DAF Thread, Information und Diskussion (http://deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/showthread.php?t=4758)<--
Bild: -->Klick mich<-- (http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/1173/palm5fw.jpg)
Externe Webseite:
http://www.altfrankfurt.com/NeueStadt/Palmengarten/

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Development AIRPORT & Surroundings

Allgemeine Informationen
-->DAF Thread, Information und Diskussion, Spekulation (http://deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/showthread.php?t=1455)<--
Externe Webseite:
www.fraport.de

Completed (2004-2006)

MAC, Main Airport Center
Neubau, Büros
-->DAF Thread, Information, Baudokumentation und Diskussion (http://deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/showthread.php?t=1331)<--
Externe Webseite:
http://www.mainairportcenter.de/deutsch/info.html

Lufthansa Aviation Center
Neubau, Büros
-->DAF Thread, Information, Baudokumentation und Diskussion (http://deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/showthread.php?t=3031)<--
Externe Webseite:
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Airbus A 380 Wartungshalle (Lufthansa)
Neubau
-->DAF Thread, Information, Baudokumentation und Diskussion (http://deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/showthread.php?t=4933)<--
Externe Webseite:
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U/C

Airrail Center
Neubau, Hotel, Büros, Konferenz
-->DAF Thread, Information, Spekulation, Diskussion und Baudokumentation (http://deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/showthread.php?t=1249)<--
Externe Webseite:
http://www.airrail.de/sites/index.asp


Gateway Gardens
Neuentwicklung der ehe. US-Siedlung
-->DAF Thread, Information, Diskussion und Baudokumentation (http://www.deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/showthread.php?t=741)<--
Externe Webseite:
http://www.gateway-gardens.de

Terminal 1, A-West - Finger
Erweiterung Bereich A
-->DAF Thread, Information, Diskussion und Baudokumentation (http://www.deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/showthread.php?t=6364)<--
Externe Webseite:
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Definitely Planned

Airport Office Center, 60m
Neubau Bürohochhaus für die FAG
-->DAF Thread, Information, Spekulation, Diskussion (http://www.deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/showthread.php?t=7099)<--
Externe Webseite:
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Terminal 3
Neubau Terminal auf ehe. US Basis
-->DAF Thread, Information, Spekulation, Diskussion (http://deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/showthread.php?t=4934)<--
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;)

^^ Of course there is ;)


See this (by Gizmo23 @ DAF):

(Everything's in German, but the smileys will tell you something about the status. Otherwise use Google Translator or whatever.

Last updated: 23rd of February 2009)


OMG !!!!!!

:righton: :righton: :righton:

IMPRESSIVE BOOMLIST

:eek2: :eek2: :eek2:



:master: :master: :master: You made my day many thanks @ schum-ho :cheers:.

Haha, always at your service ;)

Frankfurt is indeed booming right now. They seem to redevelop every corner of the city.

It's especially great that they reconstruct parts of Frankfurts destroyed old town district (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altstadt_(Frankfurt_am_Main)) :):)


This is an example of a building they will rebuild (it's called "Goldene Waage" = "Golden Scale")
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f7/Frankfurt_Altstadt-Goldene_Waage.jpg/372px-Frankfurt_Altstadt-Goldene_Waage.jpg
(by wikimedia)


Some buildings they rebuilt in the 80s (at the Römerberg, where the city hall is):
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1c/Gerechtigkeitsbrunnen.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2e/Frankfurt_Am_Main-Samstagsberg-20070607.jpg/800px-Frankfurt_Am_Main-Samstagsberg-20070607.jpg

The city hall (Römer), also reconstructed
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b5/R%C3%B6mer%2C_Frankfurt.jpg/800px-R%C3%B6mer%2C_Frankfurt.jpg

(all photos by Wikimedia Commons)



Good to see there's a will to build beautiful buildings again! :)

A new hall at Frankfurt Messe
http://i43.tinypic.com/rwqnug.jpg

http://i42.tinypic.com/2u92tdh.jpg

http://i39.tinypic.com/sctawy.jpg

Speaking of the Messe area, I can see some red cranes from my apartment in that district, is this for this new Messe Hall, or for one of the new skyscrapers going up? Anyone know?

The Tower 185 site uses red cranes. They were erected in the last weeks.

^ Thanks wonwiin. Any idea if the Skyline Plaza next door with the shopping mall will start soon as well?

^ Thanks wonwiin. Any idea if the Skyline Plaza next door with the shopping mall will start soon as well?

As far as I know, they got the green light by the city administration but the construction itself was delayed. There are no news about the final design, neither any news about the Grand Hyatt and Tower 1 was at least temporarily kicked out of the project. ;)

I really like the new Messe entrance. Looks impressive.

looks like 142m high FBC (40floors, office) will get a reclad in the near future. the entrance of the tower has been reconstructed recently, and it seems that they will now pimp the rest of the tower.


http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/4038/02mittel1214570427p3ac.jpg

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/4315/01mittel121457041301xb.jpg


also there is a render showing 72m high office-scraper at theodor-heuss-allee 110 with a new fascade, so its pretty likely that this one gets also a reclad in the near future.
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/9255/01mittel1215164429i2jh.jpg


current situation:
fbc
http://www.film-commission-hessen.de/lhmedia/pics/4696-Fbc-ffm001.jpg

theodor-heuss-allee 110
http://www.thehighrisepages.de/hhkartei/ffmwayss.jpg

Well, I've mentioned this in another thread. But it rather belongs here.
Should I open a new thread for this one? Or could anyone else do it? The project kinda deserves it.

At first, let's keep in mind how Frankfurt's old town looked before the bombing raids of WW2 (around 1940):
http://www.aufbau-ffm.de/serie/Teil11/Bilder/30.jpg

The intended area for the reconstructions is the quarter left of the cathedral (in the middle, stretching into the direction of the market place)


Comparison - after heavy British bombing 1943/44:
http://www.aufbau-ffm.de/serie/Teil11/Bilder/56.jpg


And how it looks today - the big ugly brutalist crap to the left of the cathedral will be demolished (the "Technisches Rathaus" - 'technical city hall'). Then it'll be replaced by some reconstructions of historically worthful timbered houses.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/08/Main-vom-maintower-ffm001.jpg/800px-Main-vom-maintower-ffm001.jpg


More information & links (from a picture thread):

How is this plan going?

Wow! This FBC reclad paln looks great! :eek:

Grand Hyatt Tower 110m


New Renders:cheers:

UN Studio (Amsterdam)

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/6435/090518tower2grandhyattu.jpg
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/6435/090518tower2grandhyattu.jpg

Kohn, Pedersen, Fox (New York)

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/5120/090518grandhyattkohnped.jpg
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/5120/090518grandhyattkohnped.jpg
Alle Bilder: Vivico Real Estate
www.vivico.de

BIGGER renderings of the new grand hyatt

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/8755/ghyatt1.jpg

http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/5735/ghyatt2.jpg

wow impresive pictures of renders

Ah, love the Grand Hyatt. Great building!

^^ yet another great dutch contribution (this time from the UN studio, amsterdam) for the city

http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/5993/42036164.jpg (http://img190.imageshack.us/my.php?image=42036164.jpg)

I love Frankfurt

I always thought that the Technisches Rathaus was going to be torn down to make way for a five-star hotel, but we intend to rebuild several structures that used to stand on the site before they were destroyed in World War II.

^ Well, you thought wrong mate ;) Don't you live in Frankfurt? How could you possibly pass all the discussion around rebuilding the old town going on? :sly:

^^I don't live in Frankfurt. I'm just a modern-day nomad who travels to any city in the world. Before I joined SSC, I used to go to Frankfurt frequently because there were so many new skyscraper proposals. I usually find information about them on Emporis. Now most of the new skyscraper proposals have gone stale and the info on many buildings is probably outdated.

some news:

the taunusturm development was presented to the public yesterday

some info:
- the office tower has 40 floors (39 office floors and a ground floor)
- height 160m (25m more than previous design, and 45m more than initial design)
- public restaurant on the top floor
- gastronomy and retail on the ground floor
- the residential tower has 19 floors
- height 60m
- 54 apartments
- gastronomy and retail on the ground floor

first rendering:

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/22/67845065.jpg

^^^^

:banana: :banana: :banana:


Another thats goiing to be build. It will be a impressive skyline by a couple of years !!!

Thanks a lot for the info HD!

The design is simple, boxy, and uhm... glassy. A good filler for this spot probably, but I definitely liked the former design for this place better. It had more character and just suited Frankfurt better.

Render of the former Taunusturm proposal (Kaiserkarree):

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/3272/kaiserkarree.jpg
Source: FR


And btw, didn't they talk about something like a "glass mosaic facade"" for that new Taunusturm design?
I can't spot the mosaic aspect about it.

I like it! A wonderful gapfiller for Frankfurt!

Hell yeah, it`s getting denser and denser:P Few more and you`ll kick hongkong`s ass :D

Btw, we have an own thread for the Taunusturm / Kaiserkarree:

FRANKFURT | Taunusturm | 160m | 40 fl | App (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=521026)

Some nice alternate Taunusturm designs by user Ulukai:
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/9514/unbenannt1kopiew.jpg


And one by R@ptor:
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/3025/taunusturmmodified.jpg

:lol:

Paint, der beste Freund des deutschen Forumers ;)


I still like those designs, especially the curved slim design R@ptor visualized would be pretty great.
Simple and monolithic, yet I can't think of any tower in the world that looks like this.

Ben van Berkel's UNStudio has been chosen as the winner in a design competition for Grand Hyatt tower, a hotel tower set to soar in Frankfurt.

http://static.worldarchitecturenews.com/project/uploaded_files/11718_1.main.jpg

According to Ben van Berkel the design for the Grand Hyatt tower celebrates and highlights the cosmopolitan character and diversity of Frankfurt: "It has three different elevations that are linked to the different aspects of the city. The tower takes up the variation and diversity offered by the city of Frankfurt and reflects that multiplicity of experiences back to the city itself. The tower can be perceived differently from each perspective; it appears needle-thin from one spot, strong and straight from another, and complex with a slight twist from yet another.”

The new tower will house a 5-star-plus hotel with 405 rooms and suites, a ballroom, spa, various restaurants, a lobby bar and a public Sky Lounge on the top floor, and the possibility of an adjacent congress center. The hotel tower consists of 30 floors at a height of approximately 110 metres and an area of 54,562.70 m2 for the hotel tower + plinth.

The new hotel will be located opposite the currently emerging high-rise office Tower 185. At the entrance of the European quarter, at the Friedrich-Ebert-Anlage, Vivico has been building Tower 185 since September 2008; the first skyscraper at this location.

The competition jury chairman Prof. Eisele pointed out: "All the proposals were of an exceptionally high standard. The award-winning designs by UNStudio and Kohn, Pedersen Fox are particularly outstanding as they present a type of high-rise which does not yet exist in this form in Frankfurt. The contribution by UNStudio demonstrates how harmony can be created between extensive functional demands and the high requirements of exterior and interior design."

link: http://www.worldarchitecturenews.com/index.php?fuseaction=wanappln.projectview&upload_id=11718

This was already mentioned here, mate ;)


But thanks anyway. I like the design, thou I think the other competitor (Kohn Pederson Fox) had a classier one.

Any start dates on the hotel and finishing dates?

Good progress at Frankfurt Airrail center:

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/8093/196646airrailcenter0800.jpg
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/9996/196649airrailcenter0961.jpg

source: http://www.fraport.com/cms/presse_center/rubrik/18/18363.current_events.htm

Any start dates on the hotel and finishing dates?

not yet

http://213.23.220.58/record/current.jpg
http://213.23.220.58/record/current.jpg
Vivico Webcam of Tower 185 :cheers:

Any start dates on the hotel and finishing dates?

according to the official hyatt press release the hotel will open in 2011.

The Airrail Center
http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/5498/img8596u.jpg

http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/771/img8592sym.jpg

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/8881/img8581k.jpg

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/4470/img8593.jpg

awesome pics Tom :), i love this project. will look impressive in reality!

looks like a giant cruise ship.


some news:

construction of the skyline plaza development and the grand hyatt tower will start in spring 2010. apparently an anchor tenant for the skyline plaza was found, according to the developer

the base of the T185 tower (u/c) will be finished on september 15, 2010,
the tower itself is due to be finished on december 31, 2011.

construction of the 185/220m skytower (main structure) will resume in the beginning of 2010, currently there is a tendering procedure under way, which will be completed in autumn. preparation works will resume in autumn.

construction of the proposed bahn tower (210m) won´t start before end of 2010 (source: faz)

according to another source preparations for a new big tower (over 50 stories) have started. I don´t know which tower it is yet, but I guess we will find out soon.

according to another source preparations for a new big tower (over 50 stories) have started. I don´t know which tower it is yet, but I guess we will find out soon.
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Marieninsel?

Great news. The only towers with 50 stories I can think of right now are Taunusturm and Marieninsel, as Max is probably not being pushed forward.

taunusturm won`t have 50stories. and what do you mean with preparation hd?

^^The Marieninsel will have over 50 storeys. It will have about 68. The existing building (Taunusanlage 11) still needs demolition though.

taunusturm won`t have 50stories. and what do you mean with preparation hd?

probably not site-prep :), that would be a bit fast :lol:

^^The Marieninsel will have over 50 storeys. It will have about 68. The existing building (Taunusanlage 11) still needs demolition though.

that was the old plan. according to the new plan, the tower won´t be demolished. marieninsel will be built right next to it.



I´m not sure, that´s the tower that is meant here though. preparation means in that case the choice of design, start of marketing, or something like that. definitely not the beginning of construction.

Oh nice. I always liked that little tower. Glad they keep it.

I didn't want the old tower preserved in the new development. It's boring. Original plans were to replace the old tower with the new tower. Now they've screwed it up. What are they supposed to teat down now?

the site is relatively big (see pic) and contains several buildings, including the T11 and a smaller "tower" - according to new plans instead of T11 a ten storey building will be demolished now.

http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/1503/t11b.jpg

That definitely is the better solution. T11 shouldn't be demolished. Frankfurt needs some smaller highrises to keep up its variety and older ones like that to show it's "highrise history".
If they tear all the old highrises down or renovate/remodel them, it looks like Frankfurt got its first highrises just some years ago.

Besides, the other buildings on the site are far uglier.

^^No, that is not a good solution. Why can't they tear down both buildings? Just because a city skyline has its first highrise several years ago doesn't mean they have to be alive. And besides, any building on the site that is preserved would be a waste of space for the new skyscraper.

If you say so.

paris, rotterdam, london or warsaw all had many great simulations showing future skylines. thank to two ssc members, frankfurt has now some too:

simulation by Ji-Ja-Jot

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o122/realJot/bummsfallara-3.jpg


by Skyline_FFM
http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/8548/skylineffmzukunft.jpg


they don't show all projects, but it's still quite impressive, imo.

nice, looks really good. hope we'll see this pic in the next 10 years :)

I love Frankfurt.

That city is so Classy.

:D

airrailcenter gets a new multi-storey car park. there will be 9levels with public parking space for 2500cars. originally airrailplanners wanted to build it for up to 7000cars, but some treehugger-politicians were against this, despite overproportional compensation measure.. also the roof is going to get grassed and it will be directly connected to the airrailcenter via skylink.
nearly forgot - planned date of construction start: 4th quarter09, planned date of completion 3rd quarter 2011
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/4332/airrailparkhaus.jpg

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/2603/airrailparkhaus1.jpg

old render, showing the location and the old (and bigger) version of the airrailparking
http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/2140/airrailparking.jpg

Tower 185 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=505636) got another redesign! It looks really fashionable now.

They changed the color of the tower from cold-metallic to pleasing-sandstone-beige. And they improved the glass top, too.
I'm lovin' it. Here you go:

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/5558/tower185render03.jpg

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/7480/tower185render01.jpg

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/1088/tower185render02.jpg

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/4808/tower185render06.jpg


The base building is also redesigned
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/1005/tower185render04.jpg

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/8895/tower185render05.jpg

- All renderings by Vivico Real Estate -

^ this one looks very cool! better than the initial one!:)

Deutsche Börse Cube
http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/2323/mg9280.jpg

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/808/mg9287z.jpg

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/2635/mg9282.jpg

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/594/mg9292.jpg

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/192/mg9293.jpg

Thanks Tom :)


But don't forget to post your update photos in the Stock Exchange thread: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=38768920

Frankfurt is awesome xD