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erbse
July 28th, 2009, 03:24 PM
500 posts :cheers1:


Danke Jungs!

ZZ-II
July 28th, 2009, 03:32 PM
looks so massive, can't wait to see it in real life :cheers:

erbse
August 23rd, 2009, 10:57 PM
There's a new proposal for the Goetheplatz in the center of Frankfurt:

A midrise designed by Zaha Hadid.
There are other contenders and we don't have a final decision about this so far, but it's probably going up:

http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/1088/goetheplatzhadid.jpg
(by Zaha Hadid Architects)

Atmosphere
August 24th, 2009, 12:27 AM
Zaha Hadid = Win! Looks very futuristic and beautiful as always.

Justme
August 24th, 2009, 06:46 AM
That certainly looks nice.

erbse
August 24th, 2009, 03:31 PM
Indeed. I just think this is the wrong place to build such a massive building.
We need smaller parcels around the Goetheplatz. I could rather imagine this Hadid thing on the Zeil, the main shopping street.

Averypavery
September 7th, 2009, 12:36 AM
:speech::speech::speech:Hey i'm new hear:):):)http://adobroonline.com/blog/2008/03/17/seattle-trip/ frankfurt is looking great

Averypavery
September 7th, 2009, 01:03 AM
Indeed. I just think this is the wrong place to build such a massive building.
We need smaller parcels around the Goetheplatz. I could rather imagine this Hadid thing on the Zeil, the main shopping street.

I disagree goethe platz has not gotten as nearly as much business as the zeil. I don't understand why people can't even it out! right mow the economy every where is awful. goetheplatz needs this. :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:

Averypavery
September 7th, 2009, 01:08 AM
Has any one heard about the marienensel the 250m. tower


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Skyline_FFM
September 7th, 2009, 12:16 PM
Has any one heard about the marienensel the 250m. tower


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Actually it seems it was reduced to about 220m, the current design for this would be this one:
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/1760/unbenannt2kopie.jpg
http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/7200/t11wettbewerbschneiders.jpg

This was the old preliminary design:
http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/707/82686501.jpg

As far as I know there is not anything final yet...

tonyboy
September 7th, 2009, 05:49 PM
While we're at it, I could virtually add a superior aerial pic with most of Frankfurt's proposals, made by a fellow German forumer (derUlukai). Enjoy:

http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/5238/ffmce3.jpg

:)

my wife and i love this nostalgic ^^picture....:tyty:

it reminded us of our honeymoon in frankfurter hotel...



http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i279/tonyboy32/zzzzzzzzxy0000123108frankfurt16b999.jpg

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i279/tonyboy32/zzzzzzzzxy0000123108frankfurt16b-1.jpg

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i279/tonyboy32/zzzzzzzzxy0000123108sing996.jpg

...we leisurely strolled from the hotel..thru shopping malls .....

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i279/tonyboy32/zzzzzzzzxy0000123108sing9.jpg

to this beautiful ^^ plaza with the truly impressive skyscrapers in the background...:cheers:

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i279/tonyboy32/0000SIA/ffmce3-1.jpg

many thanks for sharing... :banana:

Skyline_FFM
September 7th, 2009, 07:57 PM
I hope you both enjoyed your honeymoon in Frankfurt! She looks very sympathetic btw.! ;)

Averypavery
September 13th, 2009, 02:11 AM
Hopefully it is the final rendering I love the new look! it should not be changed!!
Yay frankfurt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::):):):):):):):):):)

Averypavery
September 13th, 2009, 10:26 PM
Thanks for the news has anyone heard of the millenium tower and the skyline plaza?

Jim856796
September 14th, 2009, 12:22 AM
New design for Marieninsel is ill-suited for Frankfurt. And they cut it down below 800 ft. This is terrible. I hope this is not the final design and it does get changed.

Skyline_FFM
September 14th, 2009, 08:38 PM
Thanks for the news has anyone heard of the millenium tower and the skyline plaza?

Skyline Plaza will start construction soon. It includes the Grand Hyatt hotel:
http://*************************/frankfurt/jpgs/grand_hyatt_hotel_frankfurt_uns250509_1.jpg
http://*************************/frankfurt/jpgs/grand_hyatt_hotel_frankfurt_uns250509_2.jpg
http://*************************/frankfurt/jpgs/grand_hyatt_hotel_frankfurt_uns250509_3.jpg

"Millennium Tower" will not get built until Skyline Plaza is finished. It was re-named recently and is called T365 now... :cheers:

Skyline_FFM
September 14th, 2009, 08:53 PM
Here is the Skyline Plaza with T365. But as you see, the Grand Hyatt (right side) was re-designed...
http://www.hostpix.de/071228/leq3ZWsw.jpg

T185 and the Skyline Plaza:
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/4355/skylineplaza.jpg

Tower One (about 210m) still missing:
http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/364/uec1or9.jpg
http://i30.tinypic.com/30kq650.jpg :cheers:

ZZ-II
September 14th, 2009, 09:42 PM
New design for Marieninsel is ill-suited for Frankfurt. And they cut it down below 800 ft. This is terrible. I hope this is not the final design and it does get changed.

220m are still great, and the latest design looks great. would be a fresh wind in the skyline :)

wonwiin
September 14th, 2009, 11:07 PM
The skyline plaza itself seems to be a massive building. Needs a good architectural concept for sure to make it look good.

goschio
September 15th, 2009, 02:56 PM
Skyline Plaza will start construction soon. It includes the Grand Hyatt hotel:

:

These are more or less two separate projects. There is no certainty that Grand Hyatt and Skyline plaza will be realiszed at the same time. But lets hope the best.

derUlukai
September 16th, 2009, 10:55 AM
2 new renderings of the planned campanile/bahntower can be found at the website of jsk-architects (http://www.jsk.de/#/de/projects/257)

Skyline_FFM
September 16th, 2009, 11:28 AM
^^
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/3125/jskcampanilefrankfurtko.jpg

http://a.imagehost.org/0759/JSK_Campanile_Frankfurt_Kopie.jpg

Jim856796
September 16th, 2009, 11:52 AM
^^I guess they must have brought back the old proposal instead of planning to build a tower less than 100 metres in height.

Skyline_FFM
September 16th, 2009, 04:02 PM
^^I guess they must have brought back the old proposal instead of planning to build a tower less than 100 metres in height.

There was an agreement about the height increase of the tower earlier this year. City hall agreed to increase the height again after it was shortened to about 80m or so some time ago. But Deutsche Bahn had to agree on several demands of the city council in order to get the newerly height increase.

Justme
September 16th, 2009, 05:24 PM
^^ Any idea what the demands were?

Skyline_FFM
September 16th, 2009, 06:22 PM
^^ Any idea what the demands were?

I remember they had to upgrade a municipal park, to create 160 units for social housing and help to restore a street. I'll search for it. It was a FAZ article!

kony
September 16th, 2009, 09:25 PM
Great

HD
September 16th, 2009, 10:33 PM
the most important requirement was one to include a bus station on this site.

Bekir
September 16th, 2009, 11:08 PM
Tomorrow i am in the "Internationale Auto Ausstellung" in Frankfurt.Freue mich schon auf die Autos und Weiber :cheers:

kony
September 16th, 2009, 11:24 PM
Frankfurt really rules !

Skyline_FFM
September 17th, 2009, 08:16 AM
Tomorrow i am in the "Internationale Auto Ausstellung" in Frankfurt.Freue mich schon auf die Autos und Weiber :cheers:

I'll go there on Tuesday. The autos are okay, but I am really not interested in the Weiber! :lol::lol::lol:

derUlukai
October 1st, 2009, 04:57 PM
There's a new proposal for the Goetheplatz in the center of Frankfurt:

A midrise designed by Zaha Hadid.
There are other contenders and we don't have a final decision about this so far, but it's probably going up:

http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/1088/goetheplatzhadid.jpg
(by Zaha Hadid Architects)

according to local newspaper faz, the zaha hadid proposal dropped out of the selection process. probably some politicians and bourgeois considered it to be too futuristic for this place.. now 2 contenders are left, both will revise their proposals.

ksp:
http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/5358/1171goethequaksp.jpg

maeckler:
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/3489/1172goethequamaeck.jpg
scans by daf-schmittchen!

Justme
October 1st, 2009, 05:23 PM
^^ Hmmm.

Skyline_FFM
October 1st, 2009, 05:25 PM
A revised version of KSP may turn out to be at least a non-eyesore building. Maeckler is ugly from a to z! A horrible proposal!!!

ZZ-II
October 1st, 2009, 05:58 PM
zaha is the best IMO :)

Fizmo1337
October 2nd, 2009, 02:52 AM
That futuristic one looks perfect!!

goschio
October 2nd, 2009, 02:59 AM
The futuristic one looks very good in the rendering (angle, illumination) but its questionable whether it will look like that in reality. The builing might appear very monotonous and the facade is nothing special (aluminum?).

A revised version of the KSP or Maeckler proposal might turn out to be the better option. The facade will be sandstone and the separation into smaller units might look more interesting. I also like the idea of a small corner tower. Hopefully it won't be as cheesy as in the Maeckler proposal.

erbse
October 18th, 2009, 10:51 AM
Loft condos at the Frankfurt Osthafen about to rise (Main Eastsidelofts):


Osthafenplatz 6-8

http://www.main-eastsidelofts.de/uploads/pics/start.jpg

http://www.main-eastsidelofts.de/uploads/pics/neubau-innen.jpg

http://www.main-eastsidelofts.de/uploads/pics/alt-und-neubau_02.jpg

http://www.main-eastsidelofts.de/index.php?id=44

Skyline_FFM
October 19th, 2009, 12:40 PM
I like it. It is modern but even though it goes well with the old style facades of it's neighbour!

erbse
October 19th, 2009, 04:41 PM
But it could turn out hideous as well, if that's Sichtbeton glooming there.



Some reminder for the Europaviertel in the other (West) side of Frankfurt:
that's the future site of the skyline plaza development (shopping center and an office tower) and the new congress center and grand hyatt tower - all part of the new european quarter development (europaviertel).

http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/20/ev2.jpg
http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/4994/ev1b.jpg
http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/7506/ev3o.jpg

Skyline_FFM
October 19th, 2009, 05:21 PM
I hope they won't be so stupid to use fairfaced concrete!!!

Jim856796
December 31st, 2009, 06:56 PM
I looked at the German Wikipedia and notice that the Silver Tower is getting renovation in the early 2010s. Reduction of carbon emissions and energy consumpsion will be essential. The facade will be replaced and the interior will be modernised.

HT
December 31st, 2009, 07:50 PM
You are right, the Deutsche Bahn is moving into the Silver Tower.
The new Logo has already been installed.

Averypavery
January 4th, 2010, 12:58 AM
when will the millenium tower be completed? and when will the opernturm open?

BTW...


:dj::grouphug::lol::banana:20 !!!HAPPY NEW YEAR!!! 10:banana::lol::grouphug::dj:

::dance:

LONG_FFM
January 4th, 2010, 03:31 AM
hi,

webcam, silvertower:

http://www.panterra.tv/a3/wp/comba/comba01.jpg


Opernturm will open these days. MT isn´t yet under construction. Don´t when it´s gonna start.

Jim856796
January 8th, 2010, 02:47 PM
I looked at the German version of the Frankfurt developments thread and apparently the Frankfurter Buro Center and Theodor-Heuss-Allee 110 are going to get new exteriorfacades in the future. Are there any other Frankfurt Skyscrapers that are going to be reclad?

HD
January 13th, 2010, 12:44 AM
the next candidate is the old degussa tower (see maintor development below) - not exactly a skyscraper but nevertheless a reclad in a prominent location. others are probably the old commerzbank tower and the eurotower once the ecb moves out (see news below)





speaking of ecb: construction of the new european central bank hq skyscraper is starting in spring 2010.

some new pics:

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/9988/ecb199.th.jpg (http://img130.imageshack.us/i/ecb199.jpg/)
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/5665/ecb202.th.jpg (http://img246.imageshack.us/i/ecb202.jpg/)
http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/7233/ecb198.th.jpg (http://img710.imageshack.us/i/ecb198.jpg/)
http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/4489/ecb194.th.jpg (http://img191.imageshack.us/i/ecb194.jpg/)
http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/8133/ecb192.th.jpg (http://img697.imageshack.us/i/ecb192.jpg/)
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/4410/ecb191.th.jpg (http://img246.imageshack.us/i/ecb191.jpg/)
http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/9484/ecb190.th.jpg (http://img710.imageshack.us/i/ecb190.jpg/)


some info:

the northern tower will be 185m tall (45 floors)
the southern tower will be 165m tall (43 floors)
the total height (including antenna) is 220m






another project starting spring 2010 is the maintor development (3 new towers + one reclad):

some pics:

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/7154/mat028.th.jpg (http://img130.imageshack.us/i/mat028.jpg/)
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/83/mat027.th.jpg (http://img508.imageshack.us/i/mat027.jpg/)
http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/6520/mat022v.th.jpg (http://img685.imageshack.us/i/mat022v.jpg/)
http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/2814/mat020.th.jpg (http://img710.imageshack.us/i/mat020.jpg/)
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/7537/mat019.th.jpg (http://img508.imageshack.us/i/mat019.jpg/)
http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/2590/mat017.th.jpg (http://img191.imageshack.us/i/mat017.jpg/)
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/7396/mat009.th.jpg (http://img246.imageshack.us/i/mat009.jpg/)



not sure, if this has been posted here before:

renderings of the marieninsel tower:

http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/1941/mar013.th.jpg (http://img691.imageshack.us/i/mar013.jpg/)
http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/245/mar011.th.jpg (http://img682.imageshack.us/i/mar011.jpg/)
http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/8594/mar008.th.jpg (http://img682.imageshack.us/i/mar008.jpg/)

HD
January 13th, 2010, 10:56 AM
although not a highrise this should be mentioned here: the revitalisation of the zeilgalerie shopping center (42m, 10 levels) is starting now.

pic:
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/1836/frazeil.jpg (http://img69.imageshack.us/i/frazeil.jpg/)

for pics from the inside and outside click here (http://www.zeilgalerie.com/).

Skyline_FFM
January 13th, 2010, 01:48 PM
That looks really good! Zeilgalerie has become pretty decadent in recent years. I hope it will get upgraded.

Tom_Green
January 14th, 2010, 06:39 PM
although not a highrise this should be mentioned here: the revitalisation of the zeilgalerie shopping center (42m, 10 levels) is starting now.


for pics from the inside and outside click here (http://www.zeilgalerie.com/).

Will they close the entire Zeilgallerie during the work or will it remain open?

Averypavery
January 18th, 2010, 01:07 AM
when will the maintor start? thanks much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HD
January 18th, 2010, 01:39 PM
the zeilgalerie remains open during reconstruction, tom.

maintor starts this year, but there have to be several buildings to be demolished first.

goschio
February 11th, 2010, 06:13 PM
Hafenpark (harbour park)
New park will be created next to the European-Central-Bank site. The park will have sport facilities and restaurant.

Construction should start in 2011 and first sections will be finished in 2012.

size: 40,000 qm

overview:
http://www.hafenpark-ffm.de/bilder/headl.jpg

Design competition winner:
sinai
Faust.Schroll.Schwarz. winner

renderings:
http://www.hafenpark-ffm.de/bilder/1_1.jpg

http://www.hafenpark-ffm.de/bilder/1_2.jpg

source:http://www.hafenpark-ffm.de/bilder/

Not the winner design but it provides nice overview:
http://www.hafenpark-ffm.de/bilder/3_2.jpg

HD
February 11th, 2010, 07:42 PM
too bad this site is being "wasted" for a park.


btw. the construction schedule of the neighbouring ecb tower project has been released.

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/6728/ecb.jpg

Kampflamm
February 11th, 2010, 08:30 PM
So will Marieninsel be built anytime soon?

Skyline_FFM
February 11th, 2010, 08:31 PM
too bad this site is being "wasted" for a park.


btw. the construction schedule of the neighbouring ecb tower project has been released.

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/6728/ecb.jpg

I do not see it as a waste, every new free space for leisure is is a win! So I support it and jugding by the plan it might become a nice park! What would you prefer? Another highrise so far outside the inner city?

Skyline_FFM
February 11th, 2010, 08:33 PM
So will Marieninsel be built anytime soon?

Don't think so. It seems to me as if it is becoming a permanent design object without realistic plans for the near future.

HD
February 11th, 2010, 09:09 PM
I do not see it as a waste, every new free space for leisure is is a win! So I support it and jugding by the plan it might become a nice park! What would you prefer? Another highrise so far outside the inner city?


apartments (not necessarily highrise, but why not. just around the corner there is a hotel tower planned. why not creating a small cluster ...). there is a huge demand for apartments. there is enough "space for leisure" right next to this site. there are not many empty prime sites at the river left.

Skyline_FFM
February 11th, 2010, 09:14 PM
I know. But I am no fan of building the whole river long. I prefer such spaces as public spaces. But this is a matter of taste.

Justme
February 12th, 2010, 06:54 AM
Parks are wonderful people places. Frankfurt certainly needs more of them.

Justme
February 12th, 2010, 01:09 PM
apartments (not necessarily highrise, but why not. just around the corner there is a hotel tower planned. why not creating a small cluster ...). there is a huge demand for apartments. there is enough "space for leisure" right next to this site. there are not many empty prime sites at the river left.

I know what you mean. Apartments are nice along the riverside. Wouldn't mind one myself :O) Though I have to say, almost all new apartments along the river in Frankfurt look almost identical, bar some cosmetic changes.

But I really think this area would be nice for a park. On further refelction though, this park does seem rather lame. Just a bit of grass, some trees and places for emo's and skateborders to hang out ;O)

Maxime67
February 13th, 2010, 11:59 PM
Hallo besteht die Möglichkeit, alle Türme und Bauvorhaben in Frankfurt am Main? Zusammenfassen Es gibt so viele Dinge, die ich verstehe nichts. (Ich spreche nicht fließend Deutsch):)

skyscraperian
February 14th, 2010, 10:11 PM
http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/9701/europeancentralbank.png

Great tower. :)
I saw this project in Best Projects 2010 Contest http://www.constructionfamily.com/gallery/image_page.php?album_id=13&image_id=112

goschio
February 22nd, 2010, 04:05 AM
A quite bizarre project might start soon:

Diving center planned in Weiterstadt (20km south of Frankfurt):

+ underwater museum
+ diving pool (100*100m, max depth = 40m)
+ artificial reef/ sunken submarines
+ 5 star hotel/ budget hotel/
+ restaurant and rooms will have underwater view
+ park and lake

construction start: 2010 ?
finished: 2012

http://www.echo-online.de/storage/scl/ngen/suedhessen/darmstadt/97557_m1w460q75v35609.jpg
http://www.echo-online.de/suedhessen/darmstadt/art1231,668092

http://www.faz.net/m/%7BE9184F79-6F95-4283-9D63-497918BF3D37%7DPicture.jpg
http://www.faz.net/m/%7BE9184F79-6F95-4283-9D63-497918BF3D37%7DPicture.jpg

http://www.fr-online.de/_em_daten/_hermes/2008/10/21/081021_1628_tauchhotela.jpg

http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/4031/0810211644tauchhotel186.jpg

http://www.fr-online.de/_em_daten/_hermes/2008/10/21/081021_1628_tauchhotela.jpg

HD
February 22nd, 2010, 11:42 AM
uh ... lol. like something out of dubai. or shanghai.

Patrick
February 22nd, 2010, 12:38 PM
Shanghai. Dubai. Darmstadt.

Where dreams come true! :D

derUlukai
February 22nd, 2010, 06:27 PM
wow, this could get awesome.. would have been great as mainattraction for skylineplaza..

lukaszek89
February 22nd, 2010, 08:28 PM
impressing! :cheers:

HD
February 24th, 2010, 10:47 PM
wow, this could get awesome.. would have been great as mainattraction for skylineplaza..

yeah!


speaking of the skyline plaza (for our international readers): it has been officially confirmed that construction will start end of 2010. the development includes a shopping center, a congress center and the grand hyatt hotel tower (there is also a 212m office tower planned at a later stage)

pics (as a reminder)
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/8341/gh4a.jpg
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/7527/gh2z.jpg
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/5297/gh1yf.jpg
http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/3973/vicco.jpg

Justme
February 25th, 2010, 04:52 PM
Looking forward to the first renderings of the shopping center. If nothing is out yet, I suspect this is because it is rather mundane then. If the design was something special I would expect they would want the world to see.

On the other hand, this could be because they are still working on the final design... I must have hope.

Skyline_FFM
February 25th, 2010, 05:18 PM
Vivico is always late with the publication of their final designs.

HD
February 25th, 2010, 05:47 PM
Looking forward to the first renderings of the shopping center. If nothing is out yet, I suspect this is because it is rather mundane then. If the design was something special I would expect they would want the world to see.

On the other hand, this could be because they are still working on the final design... I must have hope.

it looks like the shopping center will look like in the aerial view I posted earlier.

here's a new pic of the entrance to the mall ... looks very similar to what we see in the aerial view.

from vivico:
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/7866/sk1jpgy.jpg

Skyline_FFM
February 25th, 2010, 07:28 PM
Yes, that is about what I have seen also. But as you know some re-design is often done by Vivico...

HD
February 25th, 2010, 07:41 PM
hopefully it will be the case here aswell.

it looks rather poor compared to the futuristic design of the neighbouring grand hyatt & congress center.

Justme
February 25th, 2010, 10:06 PM
Actually, I like that exterior. Thanks for posting the render.

I hope the interior is something special though. What about that roof garden? I wonder if it will be open to the public.

I also wonder if they will have a direct connection to the u-bahn, an underground walkway. Would be so useful on those cold and wet days, and the hot ones as well of course.

HD
February 25th, 2010, 11:34 PM
a public roofgarden was always one of the main features of the development. don't know if it's still the case after the redesign though. the masterplan of the area shows two u-bahn entrances right next to the southern entrance to the mall - literaly a metre or two away from the entrance. hopefully this doesn't mean there won't be any access from inside the mall to the underground station.

goschio
February 26th, 2010, 01:07 AM
That looks not bad.

Hope it will have some nice facade illumination. Perhaps animated.

Justme
February 26th, 2010, 05:57 PM
I quite like this. Might start looking at property on Europa Allee.

HD
March 3rd, 2010, 09:54 PM
new midrise:

plans for a new midrise in the banking quarter emerged today. investor is credit suisse, the site is located between the skyper tower and the T11 tower, several (already empty) buildings with up to 8 storeys need to be demolished for this. the building will be under the 60m mark - buildings under this mark are not part of the current skyscraper masterplan. this is the latest (and not last) midrise project of that kind for the city center - goal is densification and better utilization of available land.

location:

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/9476/procfz.jpg (http://img291.imageshack.us/i/procfz.jpg/)
location: 4th building to the right of skyper/3rd to the left of T11, right across the street from the 220m marieninsel project.

derUlukai
March 4th, 2010, 01:03 AM
well, t-11 is 75m high and barely visible on this pic, so the new midrise will be quite unnoticeable. still better then nothing i guess..
wasnt there also a plan for an about 60m midrise between fbc and trianon? what happened to that?

HD
March 4th, 2010, 06:41 AM
well, t-11 is 75m high and barely visible on this pic, so the new midrise will be quite unnoticeable. still better then nothing i guess..
wasnt there also a plan for an about 60m midrise between fbc and trianon? what happened to that?

yes, especially when there is a 220m tower planned right next to it.
the 60m midrise between the fbc and trianon towers is still a go, though I doubt it will be built speculatively.
also, plans for another midrise in the area will be presented soon (can't say more right now).
let's not forget the residential midrise that comes with the 160m taunusturm project.
all these little "towers" will be barely visible in the skyline, but they do add density to the main cluster, especially from the street level (a 12-15 storey building can still look massive from there).

party_animals
March 4th, 2010, 07:20 AM
i think FF is simply the best out of EU!!!!

derUlukai
March 4th, 2010, 05:51 PM
also, plans for another midrise in the area will be presented soon (can't say more right now).

all these little "towers" will be barely visible in the skyline, but they do add density to the main cluster, especially from the street level (a 12-15 storey building can still look massive from there).

good news! i wasn`t against those midrises, but in a way they are rival to some new really big developments in that area that i would prefer..

Joka
March 4th, 2010, 09:39 PM
http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/3973/vicco.jpg

Isn't that where The Millenium Tower was supposed to go? Does this mean it's dead?

Germanicus
March 4th, 2010, 09:55 PM
No, the Millenium Tower is not dead now. Even though is quite unlikely it will be build soon. They reserved the building area, which is located just next to the new shopping center. Its actually between the Tower 185, the hotel tower and the shopping mall.

HD
March 4th, 2010, 09:58 PM
mt is planned for the site behind the skyline plaza:

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/533/0811europaviertelmaster.jpg

Jim856796
March 5th, 2010, 11:18 PM
The Skyline Plaza hotel tower now looks shorter than 160 metres. An apparent height reduction, perhaps?

derUlukai
March 5th, 2010, 11:27 PM
indeed. height of the tower has been cut down to about 113m, and it will host only the hotel, no luxury-appartments.

erbse
March 6th, 2010, 01:16 PM
I like it better this way. Frankfurt has too many towers in the 160m range already, some smaller towers are healthy for its skyline appearance and the process of densifying it.

HD
March 6th, 2010, 09:48 PM
the height is ok. although it will look lost, if all the proposals in the vicinity get built (http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/6130/vca.jpg - source of original picture is vivico).

erbse
March 7th, 2010, 08:49 AM
I don't think so. Japan Center doesn't look lost in the middle of the financial district either, while being rather small.

Buyckske Ruben
March 7th, 2010, 01:18 PM
Will the MT 365m really be build??? Maybe after the completion of the PWC tower currently U/C.

derUlukai
March 21st, 2010, 07:09 AM
reclad of the silvertower makes quite some progress
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/6926/l1020974.jpg

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/916/l1020973.jpg



completed opernturm - why was its international thread already moved to archive? there isn`t posted even a single picture of the 100%completed building..
http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/4729/l1020975.jpg

Justme
March 21st, 2010, 08:54 PM
What will the new silvertower cladding be like in the end?

preppy
March 23rd, 2010, 05:56 PM
Nice. :)

elculo
March 23rd, 2010, 07:03 PM
What will the new silvertower cladding be like in the end?

It will look as it does now just a bit brighter, they are just cleaning the cladding (i think the four floors below the ones which are under construction have already been "refurbished")

HD
March 26th, 2010, 08:54 PM
DIC, the developer of the maintor development (construction starts 2010) announced today, that KSP architects and the maeckler architectural office are desiging two of their maintor towers.


DIC: KSP and Mäckler to construct the MainTor towers in Frankfurt

Frankfurt, 26.03.2010

In consultation with the City of Frankfurt, DIC (Deutsche Immobilien Chancen) has reached a final decision on the choice of architectural firms for the two “WinX” and “MainTor Panorama” high-rise buildings in the MainTor project in Frankfurt:

* “WinX”: KSP Jürgen Engel Architekten GmbH
* “MainTor Panorama”: Prof. Christoph Mäckler Architekten

With this decision DIC follows the recommendation of the panel that had already unanimously recommended the combination of these two designs in the previous advisory procedure in December 2009, since it represented the best urban solution. In the meantime, both designs have been revised according to the panel’s suggestions, do harmonize very well and together with the surrounding buildings they complement the attractive skyline of Frankfurt.

Ulrich Höller, Chairman of the Management Board of DIC: “The City has supported DIC’s planning work in a very constructive manner and, in the end, has appreciated our planning with the now adopted development plan. By this decision the next key milestone in the completion of the project is implemented according to plan.”

new renderings:

1. situation today
http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/245/dic1.jpg

2. view of the development (the left tower is designed by maeckler, the central tower by KSP. the third tower was also designed by KSP, there was no competition for that though.)
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/1875/dic2c.jpg

3. view from the west
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/3274/dic3.jpg

4. view from the river
http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/9884/dic4.jpg

source: DIC

derUlukai
March 26th, 2010, 10:01 PM
awesome! hope this will be built soon..

erbse
March 27th, 2010, 02:08 AM
^ We also have an own thread for this project, btw:


FRANKFURT | WinX Tower | 150m | 40 fl | Pro (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=456399)

lukaszek89
March 27th, 2010, 04:31 AM
I like those boxes in Frankfurt, much better than asia style skyscrapers:cheers:

erbse
March 27th, 2010, 04:39 AM
What are Asia style skyscrrapers though?

Joka
March 27th, 2010, 11:53 AM
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/1875/dic2c.jpg

What's the slender white render in the middle?

erbse
March 27th, 2010, 12:27 PM
That's not a render, that's the former headquarter of the European Central Bank (called Eurotower (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurotower_(Frankfurt))) built in 1977. ;)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3507/3908675315_c670c77989_b.jpg
Source (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30359654@N07/3908675315/sizes/l/)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2018/2222190311_2cef230482_b.jpg
Source (http://www.flickr.com/photos/92952068@N00/2222190311/sizes/l/)


They are building a new one though. Check this thread:
FRANKFURT | European Central Bank HQ | 185m | 45 fl | Prep (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=185988)

Renderings of new ECB:
http://i44.tinypic.com/k2076x.jpg

http://i42.tinypic.com/nwghon.jpg
Source: FAZ

goschio
March 27th, 2010, 12:28 PM
What's the slender white render in the middle?

Its not a render its an actual building. Currently its occupied by the European Central Bank until the new ECB headquarter is finished. Then it will most probably get a new facade and general renovation. It only appears that slender from this particular angle.

Will be interesting how the new facade will look like.


Edit: Erbse was faster by one minute!

Joka
March 27th, 2010, 09:05 PM
It's a funny angle, looked like a building proposal. :)

erbse
April 3rd, 2010, 09:39 AM
The renovation of the Deutsche Bank facade.


An earlier phase in 2009:
http://i43.tinypic.com/12340ef.jpg
Source: bauserve.net (http://www.bauserve.net/projektblue_deutsch_bank0.html?&no_cache=1#)


2010:
http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/59/img0255m.jpg

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/7702/img0257th.jpg

Yesterday:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2720/4484894021_dfced22f63_b.jpg

erbse
April 3rd, 2010, 09:41 AM
The Europaviertel / European quarter near Messeturm is proceeding as well.

meininger hotel
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4029/4485614260_b2b6c1ceb8_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2793/4484910569_5348d1afe9_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2711/4484799163_9b2dd2830b_b.jpg

erbse
April 3rd, 2010, 09:43 AM
The huge (over 600m long) Airrail Center at Frankfurt Airport.

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/9601/img2904.jpg
by TomGreen

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/6335/img2915x.jpg
by TomGreen


The top part's getting cladded now.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4036/4485003645_e9edc895c9_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4021/4485650380_6d3090c032_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4042/4484998653_58f3a83537_o.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4039/4484989347_37a9a17333_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2693/4485642700_744e8ac394_b.jpg

erbse
April 3rd, 2010, 09:45 AM
Frankfurt airport is heavily extending atm. Not just the terminals, but also the runways. Runway 4:

Hier der anfang der vierten landenbahn, so schaut es noch aus:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4022/4484998023_b65f36e462_b.jpg

und hier werden denke ich schon die pfeiler für die flugzeug brücke gebaut :

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4059/4484994005_be6e9f540f_b.jpg

erbse
April 3rd, 2010, 09:48 AM
The ugliest building of Frankfurt old town core finally gets demolished.
After that, we'll see a part of the Altstadt resurrecting there, they'll reconstruct the most important historical timbered houses there. See thread about old Frankfurt. (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1057411)


Demolition works at Technical City Hall of Frankfurt (Technisches Rathaus):
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4070/4485494802_d092137ae8_b.jpg
by migöl

erbse
April 3rd, 2010, 09:49 AM
Highrise renovation project at Eschenheim tower (part of the medieval fortifications of Frankfurt).

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2707/4484879395_8aa8a37245_b.jpg
by migöl

erbse
April 3rd, 2010, 09:52 AM
The Silver Tower (highrise with aluminium cladding of the Dresdner Bank from the 70s) also gets some fresh looking cladding. It's almost finished by now.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2695/4484836847_f81dd92297_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2746/4484822103_a8b604661e_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4029/4485476158_39085725e2_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4050/4484833381_938b57b49b_b.jpg

erbse
April 3rd, 2010, 09:53 AM
A lot of stuff going on in Frankfurt ;)

They're renovating the Alte Oper at the moment.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2737/4485554604_98e0de9552_b.jpg
by migöl

erbse
April 3rd, 2010, 09:57 AM
--dp--

erbse
April 3rd, 2010, 10:00 AM
Frankfurt also gets a new bridge crossing the river Main.
It will be built next to a similarily looking bridge near the site of the new European Central Bank. It's about to cost around 40 million Euro.

German article about the project called "Neue Mainbrücke Ost" for now:
40-Millionen-Projekt
Eine neue Brücke über den Main

Aus 17,5 Millionen Euro sind nun mehr als 40 Millionen geworden. Vorläufig. Wenn die neue Brücke im Frankfurter Osten sich einmal über den Main spannt und das geplante Hauptquartier der Europäischen Zentralbank (EZB) an den Autoverkehr anschließt, wird die Endabrechnung wohl um ein paar Millionen höher ausfallen – wie dies meistens bei Großprojekten so ist. Auf jeden Fall wird Frankfurt das Vorhaben 20 Millionen Euro kosten, womit die neue Mainbrücke zu den besonders teuren Investitionen der Stadt zählt.

http://i42.tinypic.com/24ot4k2.jpg
Quelle (http://www.ferdinand-heide.de/FHA/Honsellbruecke_1_files/DINA3_Mainbrucke.jpg?)

http://i42.tinypic.com/vmrupk.jpg

bilder von hier:http://www.ferdinand-heide.de/FHA/Honsellbruecke_2.html
Source (http://www.faz.net/s/RubFAE83B7DDEFD4F2882ED5B3C15AC43E2/Doc~ECF40DEC0B0A4435F9861E892CDBDD7B6~ATpl~Ecommon~Scontent.html)


Current situation there:
http://i39.tinypic.com/21bnhjm.jpg
@ich

Jim856796
April 3rd, 2010, 11:10 AM
About the Silver Tower post, I thought they were still removing the old facade and then building the new one. Either that, or the new facade is currently being built.

Justme
April 4th, 2010, 08:24 PM
Are they really re-building the old buildings near Römer? The last time I heard about this was in a Journal article and it seemed quite undecided then if to rebuild the old buildings or put something new there.

I personally wouldn't mind the old buildings back in that location, and whilst at it, finish off Römer itself.

Justme
April 4th, 2010, 08:33 PM
For those interested, here is more on the location of the new bridge. It will link to the far left of this map on the small bridge (the Honsellbrücke)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c4/Frankfurt_Osthafen_Uebersichtsplan_22082009.JPG/800px-Frankfurt_Osthafen_Uebersichtsplan_22082009.JPG

And here is the existing Honsellbrücke which it will link to.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e0/Honsellbr%C3%BCcke_Osthafen_Ffm.jpg

Originally, Osthafen was due for rebuilding a bit like what is happening in Hamburg right now, but the current mayor was against the idea and it is still an industrial part of the near central city. Hopefully with a mayor change this will happen.

HD
April 4th, 2010, 08:37 PM
Are they really re-building the old buildings near Römer? The last time I heard about this was in a Journal article and it seemed quite undecided then if to rebuild the old buildings or put something new there.

I personally wouldn't mind the old buildings back in that location, and whilst at it, finish off Römer itself.

some builings are going to reconstructed, some not (most of them actually).

don't think there are plans to finish off römer - unfortuntely.

edit re ecb bridge: there are new plans to redevelop a part of the osthafen though - not only offices are planned, but also apartments, hotel, etc.

Rohne
April 4th, 2010, 08:42 PM
@Justme: Yes they are. There will be ~40 lots. 8 of them will be reconstructions by the city. Others may be reconstructed if the investors of each building want to (and there indeed is interest for additional reconstructions). So we could easily see half of the area being reconstructed in the state before the allied bombings.

Justme
April 5th, 2010, 12:08 AM
Sounds fantastic. It's about time Frankfurt got part of it's old town back again. It was such a great loss. Nothing like having a good mix of old and new in a city, well, "new" and new I guess in this case ;O)

Justme
April 5th, 2010, 12:10 AM
edit re ecb bridge: there are new plans to redevelop a part of the osthafen though - not only offices are planned, but also apartments, hotel, etc.

Hmmm, I seem to have missed this development on these threads. Good news that something is happening. I hope they build decent retail in there though. Go to Westhafen, and nice enough it is to look at, it's a complete ghost town. These places need a good mix of as you write, offices, apartments, hotels but also (and very importantly) retail.

HD
April 5th, 2010, 12:47 AM
right next to the european central bank and the new river park, at the westernmost end of the osthafen, there are plans for the mainsquare development. it's a shopping center (about the size of the hessen-center), cinema, hotel and offices.

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/6687/55056041.jpg (http://img130.imageshack.us/i/55056041.jpg/)

I doubt there will be more shops in the osthafen area though, but then again, hanauer landstrasse is only 2 blocks away and it has plenty of different stores.

don't expect too many new residential buildings in the osthafen yet (apart from a few loft style buildings) - most new developments are offices and hotels. the (old) idea of converting (parts of the) osthafen into a residential area is still new and not everybody in the city of frankfurt wants that (many businesses located in the osthafen don't want that for example).

schum-ho
April 24th, 2010, 12:24 PM
^^ That's a good looking project! Seems like the ECB development really attracts wealth and great projects for the Ostend, doesn't it? :)

schum-ho
April 24th, 2010, 12:25 PM
Silver Tower (Dresdner Bank highrise, now Deutsche Bahn inside) recladding:
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/9970/img2562s.jpg

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/1534/mg3821.jpg

http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/7545/mg3810.jpg

DPRKwig
April 30th, 2010, 02:26 PM
Entirely nice project. :)

HD
May 19th, 2010, 10:30 PM
little bit of news:

1. construction of the ecb tower started today - more info here. (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=185988&page=15)

http://www.ecb.int/ecb/premises/intro/description/shared/img/4_1_5_img_001_big.jpg
http://www.ecb.int/ecb/premises/intro/description/shared/img/4_1_5_img_002_big.jpg

2. demolition of builings at the future site of the taunusturm skyscraper started a few days ago. more info here (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=521026&page=9)

3. while the skyline plaza development is slowly but surely moving forward, the new website of the development has been launched - more info here (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=57183913#post57183913)

4. looks like the turmpalast is closing in june. this and several other buildings in the vicinity will be demolished to make way for a new development including a residential highrise.

5. first parts of the new facade of the marriott tower are being put in place. meanwhile the new funky looking entrance structure has been finished. pics following soon.

derUlukai
June 10th, 2010, 01:16 AM
reclad at the silvertower..
http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/8661/l1030125.jpg

..and the PBC/marriott-tower
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/8934/l1030124.jpg

Jim856796
June 11th, 2010, 12:41 AM
^^I did not know that the Plaza Buro Center was getting a new facade.

HD
July 7th, 2010, 11:42 AM
^^ yes, the finished product will be called WestendGate (after westend, the area it is standing in). more info: www.westendgate.com

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/6096/59636597.jpg
source: arplus

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


some news:

a design competition for a small office tower proposed in march was held and there were two winners: novotny (offenbach) and schneider + schneider (frankfurt).

- novotny designed a massive stone clad H-shaped block sitting on top of a huge base
- schneider + schneider designed an also massive complex consisting of two glass clad slabs on top of a base
- the winners have three weeks to modify their work
- credit suisse initally wanted to erect a 150m tower, but didn't get the approval (too big for the location, even though it is surrounded by tall buildings, including a 220m project right next door)...
- the new tower is supposed to be 17 storeys tall (32,000 square meters of office space)
- investor is credit suisse, who owns the building complex at taunusanlage 8
- several up to 8 storey tall buldings need to be demolished


first pics:
novotny
http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/1456/fr1.jpg

schneider+schneider
http://img808.imageshack.us/img808/260/fr2.jpg

location:



location:

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/9476/procfz.jpg (http://img291.imageshack.us/i/procfz.jpg/)
location: 4th building to the right of skyper/3rd to the left of T11, right across the street from the 220m marieninsel project.



source: frankfurter rundschau. today

goschio
July 8th, 2010, 04:48 PM
^
That is the perfect location for a new highrise. Although 60m is a bit small IMO. But Frankfurt needs fillers.

erbse
July 8th, 2010, 05:05 PM
60m is quite appropriate for this location. Frankfurt needs some smaller towers and diversity.

I'd prefer a mix of both designs, maybe with some setbacks it could look pretty great.

HD
July 8th, 2010, 05:09 PM
I agree. a lot of midrises are needed to fill the gaps.

60m is the height of the last office floor btw. this means the building will be a bit taller than that. on pictures I saw at an exhibition (pics will follow) it looks almost as tall as T11, which is 75m tall. if the 220m marieninsel gets built, these two towers could act as steps on each side of the tower.

Jim856796
July 8th, 2010, 05:43 PM
^^Still do not want T11 kept, though.

Brum X
July 11th, 2010, 02:14 PM
Visited Frankfurt 2 weeks ago and really really enjoyed it, its a really good city. Modern, Clean and a good atmosphere in all the bars and clubs. Cheers :cheers:

Brum X
July 11th, 2010, 02:15 PM
Fantastic Skyline too :)

josem_ss
July 12th, 2010, 09:16 AM
but those two are different from each other

Skyline_FFM
July 13th, 2010, 06:50 PM
Visited Frankfurt 2 weeks ago and really really enjoyed it, its a really good city. Modern, Clean and a good atmosphere in all the bars and clubs. Cheers :cheers:

I am pleased you liked it. :D Come back whenever you want to! :cheers:

Brum X
July 13th, 2010, 09:12 PM
Would love to visit Berlin the next time i visit Germany as it looks a very interesting city with lots of history, would visit Frankfurt again though.

HD
July 31st, 2010, 12:39 AM
first online rendering of MA - a le corbusier sixties-like mixed use development of the former diamond exchange (stephan str. near zeil)
use: 3 floors of retail + 10 floors of upscale residential units (80 units between 80 and 300 square meters with ceilling heights of up to 6 meters)
architect: mäckler
date of completion: sometime in 2011

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/3083/maml.jpg
source: ma

lukaszek89
July 31st, 2010, 01:05 AM
I'm currently in Frankfurt and I must say it looks better every year:yes:

goschio
July 31st, 2010, 07:49 AM
@ old diamond exchange

Not bad but not excellent. Probably the most you could get out of the old diamond exchange building. And more residential in the inner city is always good. Pretty sure the apartments will sell quite rapidly.

Thats how it looks today:
http://www.kunstforum.de/nachrichten/img/2010_23/hi/4678.jpg

goschio
August 2nd, 2010, 12:47 PM
Renovation of Zeilgallerie makes progress. First sample of new animated LED facade installed.
http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/6272/zeil2.jpg
http://www.zeilgalerie.com/home.php

Justme
August 2nd, 2010, 12:50 PM
^^ Any chance of interior renovation as well? Maybe some internal link to MyZeil would be possible.

goschio
August 2nd, 2010, 01:03 PM
^
unfortunately no link to myzeil but the interior will be renovated. The new style will be very white.

http://www.zeilgalerie.com/gfx/z-room.jpg
(there is a showroom at zeilgallerie).
http://www.zeilgalerie.com/news.php

Justme
August 2nd, 2010, 01:49 PM
Thanks Goschio, I'm going to pop in next week and check the showroom out. I like the white look from that photo, as the current interior is quite dated.

Only a pity no links to MyZeil. It would benefit both malls as cross traffic can only be a good thing for either.

I do hope they plan a better set of lifts to the top of the Zeil Galerie. The current lifts are as good as useless, and the "designed" method of using the escalators clearly doesn't work as shown by the struggling shops at the top. Their best bet would be a single escalator to the top as with MyZeil and that would encourage more people to go up.

I'll check out next week what their plans really are.

vlaDyka
August 3rd, 2010, 11:31 AM
A little bit stupid question, but ...is anybody here who takes (any) photos of toilets's interior design in MyZeil ? I was so "busy" with galleries ;) ...and I forgot capture "design-work" in these rooms....
thx

Skyline_FFM
August 4th, 2010, 12:34 PM
^
unfortunately no link to myzeil but the interior will be renovated. The new style will be very white.

http://www.zeilgalerie.com/gfx/z-room.jpg
(there is a showroom at zeilgallerie).
http://www.zeilgalerie.com/news.php

White?! With the kind of people I always see in the Zeilgalerie, white is surely the most impropriate colour (or non-colour) since it is way to sensible. It will turn out to be shabby and dirty after just a few months.
Maybe after the renovation it will attract another kind of people, but I doubt that the quality of visitors and customers will improve. What a waste of money! :ohno:

Averypavery
August 5th, 2010, 12:17 AM
when will the renovation be completed?
Thanks much!!!

goschio
August 6th, 2010, 10:14 AM
White?! With the kind of people I always see in the Zeilgalerie, white is surely the most impropriate colour (or non-colour) since it is way to sensible. It will turn out to be shabby and dirty after just a few months.
Maybe after the renovation it will attract another kind of people, but I doubt that the quality of visitors and customers will improve. What a waste of money! :ohno:


What kind of people do you see in the zeilgallerie? Are these people more dirty than others? Would be interesting to know. Last time I have been there, the people where quite normal with clean clothes.

goschio
August 8th, 2010, 03:50 AM
Meritius Hotel Frankfurt is UC

5 star hotel located directly at the horse racing track and inner city golf course in Frankfurt. Its chinese style architecture and services should mainly attract chinese tourists and chinese business people.

construction period: 2010-2011 (probably 2012)
developer: Huarong–Group, Beijing
operator: Meritus Hotels und Resorts, Singapore
architect: Lindner Architekten Düsseldorf

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/8150/meritius.jpg
source: http://www.lindner-architekten.de/aktuelles.php?page=1

area:
http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/1214/webcam2z.jpg

construction webcam:
http://www.paragon-apartments.de/index.php?id=panorama

goschio
August 20th, 2010, 12:16 PM
Some projects that might start soon:

Ostend:

New office building Danziger Platz.
http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/4492/0003104796965.jpg

Dockland offices:
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/9194/0002915013539.jpg


Gateway Gardens: new office park near airport
Alpha Rotex
15 levels
22.331 m² office space
http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/818/0004095289457.jpg

Vertex office
http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/2633/0004195465736.jpg

source: http://www.google.de/imgres?imgurl=http://www.gross-partner.de/media/2/I1001032/000310.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.gross-partner.de/angebote/bueroimmobilien&usg=__1nglK8cUfDOnLGCc74Hu4dbPSxw=&h=540&w=900&sz=195&hl=de&start=37&zoom=1&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=pKqiYeH4pntASM:&tbnh=88&tbnw=146&prev=/images%3Fq%3DFrankfurt%2Bdanziger%2Bplatz%26start%3D21%26um%3D1%26hl%3Dde%26sa%3DN%26ndsp%3D21%26tbs%3Disch:1

HD
August 20th, 2010, 01:02 PM
thanks for the pics.


this one (http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/4492/0003104796965.jpg) has been replaced with two other buildings though - and it's already under construction.

http://a.imageshack.us/img42/3143/ggrc.jpg (http://img42.imageshack.us/i/ggrc.jpg/)

goschio
August 20th, 2010, 01:08 PM
^
Don't think that has been replaced. You still see the office building in the background of that Globetrotter render. For me it look like both buildings will be next to eachother.

HD
August 20th, 2010, 01:20 PM
if you look closely you see that the office building you posted stands between the ostbahnhof and hanauer landstrasse (on grusonstrasse). the corner of hanauer landstrasse is the location of the new globetrotter building, which is already under construction. the office building was cut in half and the design was changed slightly. the globetrotter building now replaces half of the proposed building. the office buildings are named after danziger platz, but are located on grusonstrasse.




bit more news:

the triton gets a revamp. dutch ivg wants to deliver in 2012.

http://www.ovg.nl/download.php?itemID=484753&field=photo_1
http://www.ovg.nl/download.php?itemID=484753&field=photo_2
http://www.ovg.nl/download.php?itemID=484753&field=photo_3

goschio
August 20th, 2010, 01:24 PM
if you look closely you see that the office building you posted stands between the ostbahnhof and hanauer landstrasse (on grusonstrasse). the corner of hanauer landstrasse is the location of the new globetrotter building, which is already under construction. the office building was cut in half and the design was changed slightly. the globetrotter building now replaces half of the proposed building. the office buildings are named after danziger platz, but are located on grusonstrasse.

Yes, you are right. Don't mind really. Less office space but more retail. Actually good for the area.

That Triton renovation looks good. Even a roof terrace and a restaurant. Very nice.

HD
August 20th, 2010, 01:41 PM
yeah, I don't mind either. together with the mainsquare development and the old firestation development this area could become a new shopping cluster.



changes have been made to other projects too.

the wonderful occidens (under construction) has been enlarged significantly, which resulted in a new, less striking design :(

old
http://a.imageshack.us/img18/4625/occ1.jpg (http://img18.imageshack.us/i/occ1.jpg/)



new
http://a.imageshack.us/img525/2769/occ4.jpg (http://img525.imageshack.us/i/occ4.jpg/)
http://a.imageshack.us/img819/8705/occ5.jpg (http://img819.imageshack.us/i/occ5.jpg/)

it is quite elegant, but somehow too massive (imo). well, atleast the parking/delivery door has disappeared in the new design.

derUlukai
August 20th, 2010, 03:57 PM
westendgate reclad, pic taken yesterday
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/1569/l1030530.jpg

goschio
August 21st, 2010, 01:59 AM
Eschborn Waves:

Offcie space: 21.570 qm
Architects: KSP ENGEL UND ZIMMERMANN GmbH

Current status: site preparation
Construction start: 2011
Project finished: 2013
http://www.eschborn-waves.info/

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/640/home5206787.jpg

http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/5896/eschbornwaves4.jpg

http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/7079/eschbornwaves3.jpg

http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/6212/eschbornwaves5.jpg

Justme
August 21st, 2010, 02:57 PM
My wife was telling me today that she heard from someone that there were new plans for the u-bahn expansion in Frankfurt. Has anyone heard of this? I tried searching for such plans, but nothing more than an old expansion out to Hanau which has been languishing for years.

HD
August 27th, 2010, 12:30 PM
the only u-bahn expansion, which is currently going on is the U8/U9 line in the north of the city (riedberg). the other u-bahn expansion, which is bound to happen in the foreseeable future is the U5 extension to the europaviertel area.





a friend of mine sent me pictures of a new project at taunusanlage 8, which was mentioned here a few pages ago. on tuesday there was a presentation of the final version. the height of the last office floor is around 60m. the roof height is a few meters above that mark though (around 67m). it has 18 floors, 35,000 sq m of office space. the developer (credit suisse) will also simultaneously convert a huge historic office building on weserstrasse 33 (two blocks away) into apartments (around 46, with 4,600 sq m of habitable space), as compensation for the new office space in the tower (by law developers must provide inner city living when building high rise offices).

the developer confirmed that demolition of the existing buildings will start in january 2011, which means that construction will start in spring 2011 (by law the developer must start construction after demolition right away). the date of completion is end of 2012/beginning of 2013.

a few pics (of the billboard presentation) - the initial design has been changed a bit.

http://a.imageshack.us/img4/7600/24082010276.jpg
http://a.imageshack.us/img36/7375/24082010279.jpg
http://a.imageshack.us/img36/609/24082010280.jpg

HD
August 27th, 2010, 02:13 PM
the inner city of frankfurt might undergo considerable changes in the next few years, according to a new masterplan for the inner city (that's the area inside the half-circle parkland around the old town. the inner city is the eastern half of the downtown area.)

the mains points are:
- the main east-west axis, the berliner strasse, will become a one way road (east-west)
- the other east-west axis, the northern embankment, will also become a one way road (west-east)
- the one way system will help to reduce the width of both roads, allowing more space for pedestrians, bikes and greenery
- both roads will become tree lined boulevards, with many pedestrians crossings to allow better north-south access and better access to the river.
- buildings along main roads will get more retail space, which often requires the movement of residential space away from the ground floors
- new residential units will be created by adding floors to existing buildings
- around 10 new residential "highrise" buildings of up to 35m height will provide the desired densification
- the overall goal is to remove the existing barriers (wide roads) between the main shopping area (neustadt/new town), the old town (altstadt), and the river and to create many new north-south ways and to create much needed residential space in the inner city through densification and higher buildings.


this and the currently undergoing refurbishment of the old town (demolition of a monstrous 3-tower brutalist complex from the 60s and reconstruction of parts of the former old town on that site), plus the countless redevelopment projects in adjacent areas, like the huge maintor development (incl.3 new towers), the turmpalast redevelopment or the frankfurter rundschau redevelopment, will change the inner city completely. there is no corner in the area that will remain unchanged. more than half of all buildings are going to be demolished , replaced, reconstructed, or expanded.

takashi48
August 27th, 2010, 04:15 PM
Great news concerning Weserstr. 33!
I always wondered what's up with this building, it seemed vacant because you never saw anyone entering or leaving. i think it's just used as parking of the nearby Ramada hotel.
Together with the other historic building being renovated right next to it on the corner of weser and kaiserstrasse that shows the positive trend of returning (upscale) residential space to the Bahnhofsviertel.
However the facade towards Elbestrasse is right next to a facility catering to drug addicts and imho they won't be a pleasant sight for future residents.

Justme
August 27th, 2010, 06:36 PM
the inner city of frankfurt might undergo considerable changes in the next few years, according to a new masterplan for the inner city (that's the area inside the half-circle parkland around the old town. the inner city is the eastern half of the downtown area.)

the mains points are:
- the main east-west axis, the berliner strasse, will become a one way road (east-west)
- the other east-west axis, the northern embankment, will also become a one way road (west-east)
- the one way system will help to reduce the width of both roads, allowing more space for pedestrians, bikes and greenery
- both roads will become tree lined boulevards, with many pedestrians crossings to allow better north-south access and better access to the river.
- buildings along main roads will get more retail space, which often requires the movement of residential space away from the ground floors
- new residential units will be created by adding floors to existing buildings
- around 10 new residential "highrise" buildings of up to 35m height will provide the desired densification
- the overall goal is to remove the existing barriers (wide roads) between the main shopping area (neustadt/new town), the old town (altstadt), and the river and to create many new north-south ways and to create much needed residential space in the inner city through densification and higher buildings.

Generally I quite like the ideas here. The only sad part for me is that if they refurbish some of the ugly apartments on these streets then they will last for longer. Most are horrible, cheap, post war apartments which should have been knocked down years ago. But increasing density is a very good thing. I would like to see a lot more modern, midrise or highrise apartments in the central city. Frankfurt, is quite unlike most European cities, and more like some of the infamous dead American cities which have dead downtowns. Frankfurt really needs more inner city residents.


this and the currently undergoing refurbishment of the old town (demolition of a monstrous 3-tower brutalist complex from the 60s and reconstruction of parts of the former old town on that site), plus the countless redevelopment projects in adjacent areas, like the huge maintor development (incl.3 new towers), the turmpalast redevelopment or the frankfurter rundschau redevelopment, will change the inner city completely. there is no corner in the area that will remain unchanged. more than half of all buildings are going to be demolished , replaced, reconstructed, or expanded.

I've been trying to find out what the plans are for the Turmpalast area but never have. Do you know what is actually planned?

Justme
August 27th, 2010, 06:41 PM
the only u-bahn expansion, which is currently going on is the U8/U9 line in the north of the city (riedberg). the other u-bahn expansion, which is bound to happen in the foreseeable future is the U5 extension to the europaviertel area.

Now that's cheeky. Two new stops and they give them whole new line status ;O)

goschio
October 16th, 2010, 04:14 AM
New visualisation of the Hansa Höfe residential project:

architect: Landes & Partner
construction start: september 2010

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/365/hansav.jpg
source: http://www.landes-partner.de/46-0-Hansa+Hoefe.html?referrerId=7

New renders of Diamantenboerse residential project:
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/9752/db12250525.jpg

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/7641/db22328516.jpg

http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/4718/db32375637.jpg

The Maison 43. Will replace and old residential building directly at the main river front.
architect: Prof. Christoph Mäckler Architekten
construction status: demolition of old building should start soon.
http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/7518/maison10336877.jpg
http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/4357/mason20532447.jpg
http://www.maison43.de/maison43.html
Existing building will be replaced.
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/28/overview0828488.jpg

urbane
October 16th, 2010, 05:42 PM
^^ I Understand the desire by the residents for privacy, but that wall is hideous.

Justme
October 16th, 2010, 09:40 PM
^^ This is germany, it's probably an anti Google Street View wall ;)

Jim856796
November 1st, 2010, 02:42 PM
There is a law which states that a developer must start construction of a new building immediately after demolition of an old building.

There is also a law which states that a developer must provide inner city residential sace when building high rise office buildings.

Are there any other cities which have the same laws or laws that are similar to those?

Also, what does the old Weserstrasse 33 building look like?

HD
November 2nd, 2010, 02:30 PM
new project at the airport:

the propeller

- 3 interconnected towers
- 17 floors
- 41,000 sq metres
- location: near terminal 2

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/7214/proh.jpg
http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/1062/pro2av.jpg
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/2853/pro3c.jpg

Justme
November 3rd, 2010, 03:41 PM
There is a law which states that a developer must start construction of a new building immediately after demolition of an old building.

There is also a law which states that a developer must provide inner city residential sace when building high rise office buildings.

Are there any other cities which have the same laws or laws that are similar to those?

Also, what does the old Weserstrasse 33 building look like?

Are you sure of that point above in bold? A friend of mine is the CEO/Owner of one of largest architectual firms in Frankfurt and has designed and built a number of the highrises here. He has told me on more than one occasion of the frustration in convincing his clients to include apartments and mix-use tenants in Frankfurt skyscrapers. His companies designs always tries to include apartments, but most of his clients in German cities, especially Frankfurt, reject this and demand only offices as they believe it generates greater revenue. They don't seem to have a law enforcing them.

Regarding the last question, I do remember when I lived in New Zealand that there was a policy in the city of Wellington that insisted if a construction site in the downtown area couldn't be started immediately, they had to first build it into a park, until construction began. There were a few nice pocket parks at the time because of this rule. I don't think it was New Zealand wide though, as Auckland was (and still is) full of car parks and holes in the ground. And I don't know if the law still exists in Wellington - that was 20years ago.

HD
November 3rd, 2010, 04:01 PM
the law doesn't say you have to include the residential units in the skyscraper itself. it allows you to build it somewhere in the vicinity, which is the case with all new developments (and was the case in the recent past).

the developer of the tanusturm is going for a separate small residential tower right next to the office tower, the developer of the credit suisse tower is converting an office building two blocks away into a residential, the developer of the maintor development is providing several residential buildings on site beside the 3 office towers - just to name a few of the future projects.

HD
November 3rd, 2010, 04:13 PM
it appears that the plans for the mainsquare (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=54570225&postcount=623) development have changed (mainsquare is located right next to the future ecb tower):
- the foreign language cinema is going to move to mainsquare
- also a new boarding house is planned now
- in addition to the shopping center and offices, residential units are planned again (after being dropped previously). the last masterplan allowed 3 residential buildings of up to 50m height. I wonder, if the developer is going to return to old plans.
- date of completion is 2013/2014

HD
November 3rd, 2010, 05:36 PM
the official website of the squaire (http://thesquaire.com/)development (u/c) has some new information:

the squaire (formerly known as the airrail center) is a mixed use development at the frankfurt airport:

- location is near terminal 1
- build above a train station (inter city express halt)
- 660m long, 65 m wide, 45 m tall
- 9 floors (11 floors including train station)
- 140,000 sq metres
- 2 x hilton hotels (1 x hilton airport, 1 x hilton garden inn)
- HQ of KPMG
- HQ of Nemak
- IVG offices
- medical center
- retail and gastronomy


pics:

1. overview
http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/2609/sq0e.jpg

2.
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/4749/sq1f.jpg

3.
http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/6671/sq2v.jpg

4.
http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/4589/sq4.jpg

5. almost completed
http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/5512/sq5f.jpg

6.
http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/2703/sq6t.jpg

7.
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/6020/sq95.jpg

8. interior
http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/6316/sq91.jpg

9.
http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/3813/sq92.jpg

10.
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/8610/sq94.jpg




you can also find new information about more tenants here:

11. level 03
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/8485/sqqqqq.jpg

12. level 05
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/8632/sqqqq.jpg

HD
November 3rd, 2010, 05:38 PM
preparation work for the squaire parking began a few days ago

the squaire parking:

- location: near the squaire and terminal 1
- connected with the squaire with the skylink (automatic people mover, or mini-metro)
- 9 levels
- 2,500 parking spaces

renderings:

1. location of the squaire parking - as seen from the squaire
http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/9929/sqpark.jpg

2.
http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/4950/sqpa1.jpg

3.
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/4628/sqpa2.jpg

4. skylink between the squaire and the squaire parking
http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/8352/sqpa3.jpg

5. skylink
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/4109/sqpa4.jpg

6. car entrance
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/8466/sqpa6.jpg

HD
January 5th, 2011, 11:58 PM
some news

1. ING Diba is renting 40,000 sq m (431,000 sq ft) of office space at the location of the poseidon complex.

- the existing 17 floors and 8 floors buildings get a reconstruction
- a third building, also with 17 floors, will be added to the existing complex
- date of completion is 2013

rendering:
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/5071/ing1.jpg (http://img407.imageshack.us/i/ing1.jpg/)



2. the new 35,000 sq m (377,000 sq ft) 18 floors development of Credit Suisse is moving forward as planned.
- construction starts spring 2011
- date of completion is end of 2013

rendering:
http://a.imageshack.us/img4/7600/24082010276.jpg



3. the developer of the maintor development (1 x 112m building, 2 x 64m buildings, 1 x 46m building, a couple of residential buildings) has confirmed that the development of the site will commence with the maintor panorama building.

rendering:
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/1875/dic2c.jpg



4. it seems my source was right: looks like tishman speyer will resume the preparation work for their taunusturn development soon (1 x 160m office building, 1 x 60m residential building). an official presentation of the project is set for mid january.

rendering (preliminary):
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/22/67845065.jpg


5. it has been confirmed that construction of the long awaited skyline plaza is due to start soon

rendering (vivico):
http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/3973/vicco.jpg
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/7866/sk1jpgy.jpg

erbse
January 6th, 2011, 01:14 AM
Some great news. Thanks HD! Talking about Skyline Plaza - what about the hotel? Are they going to build both at the same time?

o0ink
January 6th, 2011, 01:56 AM
really good news, thanks. But I hope so much that the Taunusturm gets more than 200 m high but this probably would be too beautiful anyway to be true, or perhaps not? We will hopefully see it in the middle of January!

Are there any more places at the main cluster, where 200m+ skyscrapers could be built at the moment?

zakkir
January 6th, 2011, 03:04 AM
thats all looked great.. thank you.

HD
January 6th, 2011, 07:04 AM
really good news, thanks. But I hope so much that the Taunusturm gets more than 200 m high but this probably would be too beautiful anyway to be true, or perhaps not? We will hopefully see it in the middle of January!

Are there any more places at the main cluster, where 200m+ skyscrapers could be built at the moment?

there is no reason to believe taunusturm will be higher than 160m. there are several potential 200m+ projects in the city, but I it is unlikely anyone would want to built a tower like that without securing an anchor tenant first.

newfvgffm
January 8th, 2011, 08:53 PM
hey HD, nice compilation, but u forgot one important project, the mainsqare shopping center close to the new ECB Headquarters...later when the center is finished also some apartement blocks or offices/hotel up to 50m height will be built.
Here a new render of the shopping center with a cinema complex inside aswell.
Construction will begin in spring 2011, in the background u can see the ECB Double tower

http://h-4.abload.de/img/mainsquareot8b.jpg
Pic by B&L

HD
January 13th, 2011, 01:44 AM
you're right. thanks for the pic.

I guess it's good they divided this project into two phases. I wonder how the second phase is going to look like. up to three tallish buildings are possible there.



I also forgot some news regarding a riverside development near the Westhafen. It looks like plans for several residential buildings near the Sommerhoff Park emerged. These plans include three residential midrises.

goschio
January 14th, 2011, 01:25 PM
2011 will be a fantastic year for project developments in Frankfurt. So much new stuff.

HD
January 14th, 2011, 01:32 PM
There is definitely a lot coming up. Too bad the tallest new project is only 160m tall though (ignoring the 185m ECB tower, which will rise in to the sky this year and the 200m T185 tower, which has almost topped out).

Another important project is the Goetheplaza development and the renovation of T11 tower. It is also going to be very interesting to see what happens with the Polizeipraesidium site - it seems the plans for a new tower are coming a step closer to realisation.

HD
January 21st, 2011, 09:59 PM
for those, who just read the summary thread:

its official now, the developer tishman speyer just held a conference: construction is about to start immediately after demolition (which began a few days ago).

some facts:

- height of the office tower has been increased again to 170 meters
(initially it was 115m tall, then it was increased to 135m, then increased again to 160m and a second tower was added - a 19 storey, 60m tall residential building)
- the office tower will have 40 floors and 60,000 sq m of office space
- the residential tower will remain as planned (50 apartments, 7,500 sq m)
- 350 parking spaces
- total usable space is 75,000 sq m
- architect is gruber + kleine-kraneburg
- demolition started a few days ago
- construction is due to start immediately after demolition.
- date of completion is december 2013

source: immobilienzeitung from today

first rendering:
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/588/tttnj.jpg (http://img208.imageshack.us/i/tttnj.jpg/)

http://www.abload.de/img/taunusturm6zvu.jpg

by tishman speyer


news in english:
http://www.commerzreal.com/en/press/recent-press-releases/artikel/article/tishman-speyer-und-commerz-real-kuendigen-baubeginn-des-taunusturm-in-frankfurt-an.html?LS=1&cHash=ec9b2cc28854d5d138deaef67c4f91bf

goschio
February 5th, 2011, 02:22 AM
Construction of new luxury hotel at the Opernplatz will start in 2011. It will replace some crap buildings from the 50s.

Most probably the hotel will be occupied by Mandarin Oriental.

Part of the complex will be residential. Probably that separate building at the left.

http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/8389/hotel14914629.jpg

http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/2787/hotel24954819.jpg

http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/6742/hotel35024846.jpg

source: http://www.cellsbau.com/projekt_01.htm

Skyline.Fan
February 5th, 2011, 04:02 AM
great news! thanks buddy

eu
February 25th, 2011, 06:30 PM
I was in Frankfurt last week, and I really enjoyed the city (even if it was incredibly cold :bash:). I'd just like to know if there are projects of reconstruction of old buildings or (even better) of old quarters of the city, as it existes in other German cities?

il fenomeno
February 25th, 2011, 08:43 PM
yes. look at the demolition area in the foreground, in front of the dome.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4092/5051078584_0520133f56_b.jpg??


parts of the old town will be reconstructed, including buildings like these.

http://www.faz.net/m/%7B08EC0A8A-4BC2-4DED-9A01-F19087B4D808%7DPicture.jpg
www.faz.net

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a9/Frankfurt_Altstadt-Huehnermarkt-1900.jpg/774px-Frankfurt_Altstadt-Huehnermarkt-1900.jpg??
http://upload.wikimedia.org

the area plan:

http://stadtplanungsamt-frankfurt.de/show.php?ID=7899_4?
http://stadtplanungsamt-frankfurt.de

the area will be a mix though of genuine reconstructions and "historicized" new buildings, which might look as these mediocre examples.

http://www.baunetz.de/img/34424007_977f5c9d1f.jpeg
http://www.baunetz.de

http://www.fr-online.de/image/view/2010/9/27/-/4783364/highRes/3056176/-/maxh/480/maxw/480/-/Drei+Giebel+neben+der+%25E2%2580%259EGoldenen+Waage%25E2%2580%259C%253A+Ostseite+des+Ensembles+%25E2%2580%259EStadthaus+am+Markt%25E2%2580%259C..jpg
http://www.fr-online.de


however, the area wont reach the historic class it once had before la guerre:

(look at some of the pictures here):
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1057411

Jim856796
February 26th, 2011, 05:16 AM
http://stadtplanungsamt-frankfurt.de/show.php?ID=7899_4?
http://stadtplanungsamt-frankfurt.de

Man, that long building is gonna ruin Frankfurt's historic core. Hope that doesn't get built or even approved.

FritzMitWitz
February 26th, 2011, 11:28 AM
Man, that long building is gonna ruin Frankfurt's historic core. Hope that doesn't get built or even approved.

When you take a look at one of the pictures above you can see that the long building is already standing.

il fenomeno
February 26th, 2011, 04:45 PM
yes, its the schirn art hall. you live in frankfurt, jim, dont you?

JLAG
February 26th, 2011, 04:54 PM
It is a pitty that they do not do a full reconstruction a'la Dreseden but has to have this "modern" touch.

Conrad
March 3rd, 2011, 10:57 AM
The situation in Dresden was quite more receptive to large-scale reconstruction than in Frankfurt.

erbse
March 3rd, 2011, 12:39 PM
^ Not true, rather on the contrary. Dresdeners had to fight really hard for single reconstructions and against modernist monsters destroying the ensemble of the Neumarkt. The atmosphere in Frankfurt is much more compromised, reconstruction-friendly and open to discussions at the moment. This might change once everything starts, but when looking at the plans, really a lot seems possible for Frankfurt.


Dresden ain't a full reconstruction either, on the contrary, there are loads of modern buildings sprinkled in between.

The pro-side of Frankfurt's reconstruction might be, that those investors who are willing to reconstruct a building that isn't planned as a reco are preferred to those who want to build modern. Besides, there is a huge competition of many architect's offices intending to find as many possible solutions for this area as possible.
We might get an almost full reconstruction of this Frankfurt old town part, if the Gods of fine taste want it like that.

HD
March 3rd, 2011, 01:44 PM
some minor news:

the headquarters of db schenker is moving from berlin to frankfurt. their new headquarters will be located in the alpha rotex building in the gateway gardens area near the airport.

construction of the 16 storey building (66m) is due to start end of 2011, date of completion is spring 2013.

developer is gross & partner and ofb. the architect is jo.franzke.

for more (press release and pic) visit: http://www.gateway-gardens.de/en/press/press_releases.html?tx_kpcnews_pi1%5BshowUid%5D=74&tx_kpcnews_pi1%5Btitle%5D=74&cHash=26c164708aef747415ad51c592b4f678

Dr.Seltsam
March 3rd, 2011, 01:52 PM
The Hotel project at Opernplatz is just wicked! I'm so looking forward to see it rise!

goschio
June 5th, 2011, 02:16 AM
update:

Additional rendering of the Honsell-Dreieck shopping centre (mainsqare):

http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/6341/honsell29133810.jpg

area: 82,000 m2
shops: ca 100
english speaking cinema: 600 seats
hotel: 160 rooms
car parks: 1100
construction start: late 2011
finished: 2013
architects: ATP

source: http://www.atp.ag/startseite/projekte/projektfilter/index.htm?no_cache=1#dyncont%28loadProject::475%29


Demolition and construction of new office and retail building in city centre:

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/2336/city12.jpg

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/9061/hausa2123.jpg

Demolition of existing building about to start.

source: msm Meyer Schmitz-Morkramer

HD
June 6th, 2011, 09:08 PM
also noteworthy:

construction of the long awaited skyline plaza started last week :banana:

http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/6576/110526europaviertelluft.jpg
http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/4506/091217skylineplazahi.jpg
http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/1862/110513skylineplazakongr.jpg

source: Vivico

Xorcist
June 16th, 2011, 07:16 PM
Some news from the Maintor development:
http://www.maintor-frankfurt.de/

Tower Winx: 110m, 29 floors
Portal: 27m, 7 floors
construction: 2012/2013

Maintor Panorama: 64m, 17 floors
construction: 2012

Maintor Primus: 46m, 12 floors
construction: 2011

Maintor Porta: 70m, 19 floors
construction: 2012
http://h5.abload.de/img/maintorgesamt68xa.jpg
http://www.maintor-frankfurt.de/bilder/objekte/03.jpg
http://www.maintor-frankfurt.de/bilder/objekte/04.jpg
http://www.maintor-frankfurt.de/bilder/objekte/05.jpg
http://www.deutsches-architektur-forum.de/pics/schmittchen/dicmaintorpanorama.jpg
http://www.deutsches-architektur-forum.de/pics/schmittchen/dicmaintorprimus.jpg
http://www.maintor-frankfurt.de/bilder/winx/04.jpg
http://www.maintor-frankfurt.de/bilder/panorama/03.jpg
http://www.maintor-frankfurt.de/bilder/porta/04.jpg
http://www.maintor-frankfurt.de/bilder/winx/05.jpg
source:www.maintor-frankfurt.de

erbse
June 16th, 2011, 08:14 PM
Wow, fantastic visualisations :applause:

Xorcist
June 16th, 2011, 08:53 PM
Wow, fantastic visualisations :applause:

yes and the new homepage is really worth a visit...btw: thx for posting it in the highrise section, wasn´t sure if i should do that or not... :okay:

erbse
June 16th, 2011, 09:08 PM
You're welcome.

HD
June 29th, 2011, 10:37 AM
for those, who don't read individual threads:

The Riverside Financial District (a.k.a Maintor Frankfurt) is officially starting on august 1.


it will take 6 months to demolish all buildings (all but a small historical villa and the skeleton of an old office midrise, which will be redeveloped)
shortly after demolition starts, the first phase of the development will start: the redevelopment of a 50s office midrise (46m, 12 floors) into a new office building called Primus, which after completion will be occupied by the developer itself (DIC)
the next phase (starting 2012) is the construction of two more office buildings, the Panorama (64m, 16 floors) and the Porta (70m, 19 floors)
the residential part (200 apartments) will follow with the Patio and Palazzi buildings
Winx, the tallest tower, will follow in 2013
the date of completion for the whole project is sometime in 2015
580 million euros will be invested
3,500 people will live and work here


for more visit: http://maintor-frankfurt.de/en/home.html


pic of the first phase
http://img862.imageshack.us/img862/4332/mt1.jpghttp://img823.imageshack.us/img823/7718/mt2yt.jpg

El_Greco
June 29th, 2011, 11:15 PM
yes. look at the demolition area in the foreground, in front of the dome.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4092/5051078584_0520133f56_b.jpg??


parts of the old town will be reconstructed, including buildings like these.

http://www.faz.net/m/%7B08EC0A8A-4BC2-4DED-9A01-F19087B4D808%7DPicture.jpg
www.faz.net

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a9/Frankfurt_Altstadt-Huehnermarkt-1900.jpg/774px-Frankfurt_Altstadt-Huehnermarkt-1900.jpg??
http://upload.wikimedia.org

the area plan:

http://stadtplanungsamt-frankfurt.de/show.php?ID=7899_4?
http://stadtplanungsamt-frankfurt.de

the area will be a mix though of genuine reconstructions and "historicized" new buildings, which might look as these mediocre examples.

http://www.baunetz.de/img/34424007_977f5c9d1f.jpeg
http://www.baunetz.de

http://www.fr-online.de/image/view/2010/9/27/-/4783364/highRes/3056176/-/maxh/480/maxw/480/-/Drei+Giebel+neben+der+%25E2%2580%259EGoldenen+Waage%25E2%2580%259C%253A+Ostseite+des+Ensembles+%25E2%2580%259EStadthaus+am+Markt%25E2%2580%259C..jpg
http://www.fr-online.de


however, the area wont reach the historic class it once had before la guerre:

(look at some of the pictures here):
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1057411

Is there a thread for this? I like the look of those historicist (if you can call them that) buildings.

erbse
June 29th, 2011, 11:45 PM
We have a German thread on Frankfurt's old town reconstruction: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1348259


I'll open an international one in the European Classic Architecture (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=192) forum soon, as things get more clear. :)

3tmk
June 30th, 2011, 06:09 AM
yes. look at the demolition area in the foreground, in front of the dome.

Would these reconstructions be used as commercial space?

I somehow don't see them as residential but I don't see how they can fill them all up.

erbse
June 30th, 2011, 11:16 AM
It will be a mixture of quite everything, you'll have apartments, offices, small hotels/guesthouses, shops, restaurants etc. there. So it's going to be a typical old town structure. It won't be hard to fill them, demand is huge in central Frankfurt.

japanese001
July 8th, 2011, 09:41 PM
Is like being in a fairy tale.

HD
July 24th, 2011, 06:52 PM
from immobilienzeitung:

first residential highrise at the europaviertel development
19 floors, 60m + mechanical fl
180 apartments
developer: wilma wohnen
architect: meixner schlüter wendt
construction start: 2012

http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/3023/mxwu.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/42/mxwu.jpg/)


a similar highrise building is being planned on the other side of the road.

HD
August 17th, 2011, 05:58 PM
some news:

plans for another new residential tower emerged, this time in sachsenhausen
17 floors
10 retail units at the bottom
location: stresemann allee 61
the site is currently occupied by a 15 floor office building, which will be demolished (or partly demolished, depending on the version)

erbse
August 17th, 2011, 07:29 PM
Great news. Any information on the developer or even some graphical support (renders/models/drawings) for this?
Where did you get it from?

HD
August 18th, 2011, 10:56 AM
the developer is the owner of the office tower. no renderings have been published yet. this project, among 70+ other points, will be discussed at a local council meeting tomorrow. hopefully more information will be available then.

goschio
August 19th, 2011, 11:05 AM
Fantastic news. In particular because its a transformation of office space to residential.

HD
August 31st, 2011, 01:34 PM
according to this article in the immobilienzeitung (http://www.immobilien-zeitung.de/1000005097/hochhaus-am-frankfurter-polizeipraesidium-kommt) the state of hessen has finally found an investor for the site of the former police headquarters. if all goes according to plan, construction of a 145m tall tower could follow. apparently the boom at the adjacent europaviertel area (tower 185 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=505636&page=54), skyline plaza (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=480449&page=10) and others) has synergistic effects on developments in the area. a design competion will be held. the preliminary design of jo.franzke architects can be seen in the article.

erbse
August 31st, 2011, 02:48 PM
The first proposed design of the tower at the Police HQ definitely is worth to be shown here :)

http://i56.tinypic.com/199p3c.jpg
Quelle: http://www.immobilien-zeitung.de/1000005097/hochhaus-am-frankfurter-polizeipraesidium-kommt / https://cdn.iz.de/media/images/image-0012020_s930xauto_c84x120_1920x2672.jpg

goschio
August 31st, 2011, 02:50 PM
^
Wow, its beautiful! Hope they don't change too much.

JLAG
August 31st, 2011, 04:27 PM
Fantastic news and the proposed design is perfect. Agree with goschio, I hope they do not change it too much.

erbse
August 31st, 2011, 04:41 PM
The proposed design would be perfect this way:

http://www.abload.de/img/untitled-1yez1.jpg


:cool:

thun
August 31st, 2011, 06:40 PM
And fits wonderfully into the area:
http://www.abload.de/img/u2ed4n.jpg
German project thread: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1437708

Skyline.Fan
August 31st, 2011, 07:03 PM
I'm in love with this tower. Just awesome!

Please, please, please build it like that!

Bavarian Angelshark
August 31st, 2011, 07:17 PM
Great news, should be a perfect addition to the skyline! + It's good that the old police headquarters will be refurbished. :)

JLAG
August 31st, 2011, 07:22 PM
Thanks Il fenomen for your version of the tower. Have you done that? I especially like the top. Really cool.

Eduardo L. Ramirez
August 31st, 2011, 07:55 PM
Very nice! It reminds me a bit of the "Atlas Tower" which was planned for Berlin

il fenomeno
August 31st, 2011, 08:07 PM
Thanks Il fenomen for your version of the tower. Have you done that? I especially like the top. Really cool.

well i just slightly modified the top. i guess something like this would could be done at one-tenth of a percent of the overall costs. unfortunately even good modern architects are so afraid of adding ornaments.

HD
August 31st, 2011, 08:08 PM
let's not forget, it's just a preliminary design for marketing purposes. the actual tower might look completely different.

http://www.faz.net/m/%7B61F02F4A-A17A-4C48-BEB5-482752390D93%7DPicture.jpg?

more info from the FAZ (german): http://www.faz.net/artikel/C30214/frankfurt-westend-kaeufer-fuer-altes-polizeipraesidium-gefunden-30494490.html



il fenomeno, if you have too much time on your hands...how about adding (http://h3.abload.de/img/u2ed4n.jpg) massing models of the matthäuskirche-tower, tower 1, güterplatz-tower and maybe even t350? :tongue2:

il fenomeno
August 31st, 2011, 09:44 PM
well then, here you go (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=83373115&postcount=126)

HD
August 31st, 2011, 11:55 PM
omg
:eek2:

:applause:

JLAG
September 1st, 2011, 07:11 PM
Fantastic il fenomeno. Really cool

Chadoh25
September 3rd, 2011, 01:08 AM
Nice!

HD
September 30th, 2011, 10:32 AM
according to various sources (fnp, immobilienzeitung, etc.) the developer nassauische heimstätte is planning a new residential tower right next to the central park at the europaviertel area.

the tower will have a similar size to other recently proposed residential towers in the area - around 18 floors.
this is the third such building announced within a few weeks - the second such project in the europaviertel area.

according to another source a fourth such project will be announced soon. the towers are all in the 18-20 floors range. hopefully all these projects will add to the acceptance of residential highrise living and lead to more and taller residential projects in the city.

newfvgffm
October 2nd, 2011, 12:45 PM
great news, too bad that all highrises are limited to 60m in height :(
I hope one or two are built a little bit higher to get more variety.

Xorcist
December 19th, 2011, 05:29 PM
One Goetheplazaconstruction will start in spring 2012
http://www.abload.de/img/3njufvinfnvnfv5bfqj.jpg
http://www.abload.de/img/zwischenablage01v6fra.jpg
http://www.abload.de/img/zwischenablage02uycee.jpg
demolishion of the old buildings just started:
http://www.abload.de/img/l1040310i2xkz.jpgpic by epizentrum DAF

T11 (75m) gets a recladding:
http://www.deutsches-architektur-forum.de/pics/schmittchen/1700taunusanlage8bestand.jpg
http://www.deutsches-architektur-forum.de/pics/schmittchen/t11neu_freo_1.jpg

Kampflamm
December 19th, 2011, 05:42 PM
Looks good. Some real improvements are going to be made in Frankfurt over the next couple of years. Drab postwar architecture is being replaced with classier modern architecture.

Sofitel

http://www.bsp-architekten.de/files/hotel_alte_oper_01_popup.jpg

http://www.bsp-architekten.de/files/hotel_alte_oper_02_popup.jpg

Apartments next to the Hotel (on the left)

http://www.bsp-architekten.de/files/wohnsolitaer_01_popup.jpg

Source: Braun & Schlockermann (http://www.bsp-architekten.de/index.php?article_id=63)

Jim856796
December 19th, 2011, 05:47 PM
Great, now the T11 tower is never gonna be torn down. It's getting a reclad instead.

cardiac86
December 19th, 2011, 05:54 PM
New rending for a proposed residential high rise in the Europaviertel! :banana:

http://www.stefan-forster-architekten.de/typo3temp/pics/30582a9615.jpg http://www.stefan-forster-architekten.de/typo3temp/pics/3f080bfab2.jpg
http://www.stefan-forster-architekten.de/typo3temp/pics/beb1ff9a44.jpghttp://www.stefan-forster-architekten.de/typo3temp/pics/651e540656.jpg

SSource Stefan Foster Architekten (http://www.stefan-forster-architekten.de/)

erbse
December 19th, 2011, 07:47 PM
Great to see the trend for exclusive highrise living finally rising on the horizon! Go Frankfurt! :applause:

JLAG
December 19th, 2011, 08:10 PM
The residential high rise in the Europaviertel looks really good. I really Like the trend towards more classy and residental buildings. Not that I do not like office buildings but I think that Frankfurt needs more residental buildings in the city centre.

goschio
December 19th, 2011, 11:21 PM
Wow, what a surprise. Really like this tower.

So compiling all the recent news, there will be 4 residential highrises going up in frankfurt in the next years.

Ulpia-Serdica
December 20th, 2011, 06:27 AM
So much elegance in Frankfurt :applause:

Xorcist
December 21st, 2011, 09:25 PM
http://www.stefan-forster-architekten.de/typo3temp/pics/30582a9615.jpg

^^ this was just one of three different designs. Unfortunately a jury decided today to build THIS one in 2013 :ohno:

https://cdn.iz.de/media/images/image-0015347_s930xauto_c650x0_1464x1130.jpg
http://www.dietz-joppien.de/typo3temp/pics/a7e52e8166.jpg

http://www.immobilien-zeitung.de/1000006746/wettbewerb-fuer-frankfurter-wohnhochhaus-nh-entschieden

Yetzirah231
December 21st, 2011, 09:34 PM
Indeed the rounded one has more style!
Is there a reason give from the Jury? Or are these square looking buildings just cheaper to build?

JLAG
December 21st, 2011, 09:44 PM
What a shame. I really liked the one with the rounded corners.

erbse
December 21st, 2011, 09:44 PM
OH NOES!!!!!!111 :mad:

jeromeee
December 21st, 2011, 09:52 PM
well, I'm a little bit disappointed but I think if we didn't know the first design, we would like the other one much more, it's not too bad.

Jim856796
December 21st, 2011, 10:02 PM
First design of that residential tower should have been Streamline Moderne revival.

Kiboko
January 4th, 2012, 11:22 AM
The first design was much better, so i hope they will reconsider this decision. However, i'm afraid the ol tower will only be elegant from the point of view of the rendering itself. From the side it will look like a massive flat.

Xorcist
January 15th, 2012, 11:15 AM
some new renderings of the T11 refurbishing-recladding project:
http://www.abload.de/img/architektur-381p48.jpg

http://www.abload.de/img/architektur-1stpj8.jpg

http://www.abload.de/img/architektur-2t3rz9.jpg

http://www.taunusanlage11.de/

Skyline.Fan
January 15th, 2012, 01:43 PM
i like it! :)