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DrDan
June 17th, 2003, 09:39 AM
Everything on track for work to begin this year after years of squabbling.

I saw some pictures on channel 10 news tonite and bloody hell it looks good!

Should be ready by 2005.

jacobsian
June 17th, 2003, 09:41 AM
What the fuck was I smoking?

pikey
June 17th, 2003, 10:39 AM
Beat me to it Dan!!! It's all signed off for construction to start in December with completion as Dan said in 2005. It looks unreal, very very classy and modern. And yes Chrisaus, it's going to have Aerobridges!!!! Oooooooooohhh!!! :D

chrisaus
June 17th, 2003, 10:57 AM
sounds great about time! long long over due! very very very good news for adelaide!

-is it a new domestic and/or international?
-is it being built on the site of the domestic, international or another site?
-is the old terminal being fully demolished?
-what will be used during construction?
-who is funding the development?
-how many aerobridges?
-any renderings?
-how big?
etc etc...

pikey
June 17th, 2003, 11:04 AM
As far as I could tell from the news story, it is funded by the State Government, Qantas and Virgin. It is a total redevelopment so the domestic and International terminals will be rebuilt. It is over 2 levels, with long sweeping curved glass walls. According to the report much more aircraft will be able to dock at once, so I guess that means the size of the airport is increased. Also the new Harbor Town Complex is incorporated into the design too. About time for Adelaide!!! Fantastic news for us Adelaideians!! Rest assured when I can find renders, I'll post 'em. And trust me Chris, it looks fucking fantastic!!!!

pikey
June 17th, 2003, 11:23 AM
As far as I can tell the project is still the same proposed in 2002.

For more information refer to:

http://www.adelaideairport.ozflight.com.au/muit_main.htm

cheers

AG
June 17th, 2003, 11:38 AM
Great news guys!!! This is well needed for Adelaide Airport. The renders look very outstanding!

Will
June 17th, 2003, 11:52 AM
If they build the airport like the renders I saw on the news today, I think that we will have one of the best looking airports in Australia.

At last we can have the airport we deseve!

DrDan
June 17th, 2003, 12:03 PM
Yep, very nice design.
The roof kind of reminded me of Sydney's new Olympic train station.

This was from the abc website:

Airlines negotiate on new passenger terminal for Adelaide

South Australia's Premier Mike Rann says he is delighted the new passenger terminal at Adelaide Airport is closer to becoming a reality.

Qantas says an agreement is close to being finalised about the passenger terminal with an announcement expected to be made in the next few months.

Premier Rann says he is confident the differences between Qantas and Virgin Blue have been resolved and expects the new terminal to open in about two years time.

hk-star
July 8th, 2003, 12:24 AM
can't find anything except this http://s03.projectcentre.net/pc.asp?j=AMA01 and it looks old and crap.

Any good, ie hi-res pics?

hk

PS Please, please, please go ahead this time. Adelaide's shit aiport bothers me night and day.

pikey
July 8th, 2003, 07:47 AM
Are you saying that the renders you have seen are crap, or the design of the terminal is crap???

hk-star
July 8th, 2003, 01:15 PM
the pictures are too small for me to make up my mind. and when i said "crap" i was talking about those web pages

i'm sure adelaide won't build a crap airport.

hk-star
July 15th, 2003, 11:06 AM
c'mon guys. more pics please.

hk

pikey
July 16th, 2003, 12:08 AM
I haven't found any more pics as of yet. But I am expecting some in a reply to an email I sent to Planning SA

VH-MRH
July 29th, 2003, 01:38 PM
Hopefully this time the plans are final and constructions begins very soon.

So far there has been two days of activity at the new site of the new terminal. The first was a few months ago where about 80m x 20m section of of dirt was moved and compacted. I assume some sort of soil testing. The second was 3 weeks ago where the still bare part of earth from the previous movements was compacted more with a roller. This area is easily visible from the viewing mound at the airport.

I am a frequent visitor to the airport for travel and aircraft spotting. This announcement if it goes through is great news and a long overdue for our current temporary terminal.

south aus
September 9th, 2003, 01:46 PM
can anyone tell me how many aerobridges and if more arlines are going to fly here

chrisaus
September 9th, 2003, 02:24 PM
Originally posted by south aus
can anyone tell me how many aerobridges and if more arlines are going to fly here

I think pikey said about 15....

more airliners... well thats got nothing to do with the development, though if there's demand im sure more airlines will move into SA

kota16
September 12th, 2003, 12:14 PM
Has anybody heard anymore on start date of construction?.The only other airline that I think might reinstate a service is Air New Zealand.Adelaide is only 50 minutes from Melbourne,and with partnerships like British Airways and Qantas,BA stopped flying to Adelaide some years back,saying passengers could board their flights in MEL.They also said the only passengers they got from Adelaide were economy class,where as they could fill seating from MEL with First Class,Business class and Economy class.Its interesting to make a comparison.Like Singapore Airlines has 3 flights a day,between SIN and PER,and from SIN to ADL,3 a week.When you look at passenger figures,most of the 4 million that pass through ADL Airport are mainly domestic,and about 300,000 international.

AG
September 15th, 2003, 09:08 AM
Work on new airport 'within 10 weeks'

15sep03
REBUILDING of Adelaide Airport will start within 10 weeks after Qantas signed an agreement today committing to the redevelopment.
Full details in tomorrow's print edition of The Advertiser

The new $240 million integrated domestic and international terminal was expected to be opened by November 2005, Adelaide Airport Limited said.

AAL managing director Phil Baker said the new facility would feature state of the art technology in a two-storey building.

Qantas executive general manager for sales and marketing, John Borghetti, signed an agreement with AAL today committing Qantas to the redevelopment.

kota16
September 15th, 2003, 09:49 AM
The design shown on 5.00pm CH10 News shows a long 2 level building,with 14 airbridges.International in the centre,with Qantas and Virgin domestic on either side,as with the function of Melbourne Airport.It will create 880 jobs during 2 year construction.:)

Cornholio
September 15th, 2003, 12:52 PM
This is great.....

I know many O/S travellers that prefer Melbourne over Sydney airport because of the fact that the Domestic and the International terminals are within the same building. Looks like when we finally get this airport, Adelaide will be moving up the ladder from near the bottom to near the top!

pikey
September 16th, 2003, 12:21 AM
:D:D:D

At long last, work to start on $240m airport
By Political Reporter LEANNE CRAIG
16sep03

ADELAIDE will get a world-class, $240 million airport terminal capable of handling the next generation of aircraft following yesterday's long-awaited signing of an agreement to allow work to begin in eight weeks.
The new terminal – to be built beside the existing international terminal – will cover an area equivalent to the length of King William St from Victoria Square to Parliament House. It will have a floor space the size of three Adelaide Ovals when it is completed in late 2005.

Qantas's executive general manager of sales and marketing, John Borghetti, who signed the deal with Adelaide Airport Limited managing director Phil Baker, said it was a "huge infrastructure project".

"You wanted air bridges here, well you're going to have 14 of them," he said. "It will be one of the very few terminals in the world that will be able to accommodate an A380."

The 550-seat A380 will revolutionise international air travel when it begins operating in Australia in 2006. "When you look around the world at some of the infrastructure problems that airports such as Los Angeles, London and Japan have in accommodating such a plane, it's certainly very good to know that Phil's plans have taken that into account," Mr Borghetti said.

The two-storey terminal will feature state-of-the-art passenger facilities and security systems, a retail centre, 40 check-in desks, nine automated baggage carousels and undercover drop-offs.

Premier Mike Rann, who witnessed the signing, said it was an "historic day" which ended a decade-long wait.

"After years of negotiations, the new airport terminal was abandoned soon after the events of September 11, 2001, and the collapse of Ansett some days later," he said.

Mr Rann said negotiations since that time had involved the Government, Qantas, Virgin and AAL.

He said that on its completion, passengers would "no longer have to run the gauntlet of wind and rain".

Improving transport infrastructure was important if the state was to meet the Economic Development Board's target of tripling exports to $25 billion by 2013.

Mr Rann said he would like to see grapevines planted along the roads leading into the airport to show off one of the state's major industries.

A levy of $5 for a one-way interstate flight – higher for international flights – will help fund the upgrade.

Business SA chief executive Peter Vaughan said the agreement was a "critical step closer to providing a world-class entry point to Adelaide and South Australia".

"The importance of this project to the state's economic future cannot be underestimated," he said.

PinkFloyd
September 16th, 2003, 01:44 AM
AWESOME!!! At long last there might be something Adelaide has that much the country can be jealous at.

chrisaus
September 16th, 2003, 05:03 AM
perth fucken get its act together and start the expansion whats supposed to start this year, we wouldn't won't adelaide to have a bigger airport:D

how does the new facilities compare to the old ie. check in desks [amount] ?

kota16
September 16th, 2003, 05:04 AM
Nothing to get jealous about.Its just a case of catch up to everybody else.Sounds a bit like 'Jeffs Shed' in Melbourne.Anyway I saw the rendering for Perth Airport in 2008,when it becomes one giant terminal,it will be awesome by any standards.;)

pikey
September 16th, 2003, 05:54 AM
Originally posted by chrisaus
perth fucken get its act together and start the expansion whats supposed to start this year, we wouldn't won't adelaide to have a bigger airport:D

how does the new facilities compare to the old ie. check in desks [amount] ?

40 Check in desks, as stated above. Should be some good shit once finished!

chrisaus
September 16th, 2003, 06:00 AM
Originally posted by kota16
Nothing to get jealous about.Its just a case of catch up to everybody else.Sounds a bit like 'Jeffs Shed' in Melbourne.Anyway I saw the rendering for Perth Airport in 2008,when it becomes one giant terminal,it will be awesome by any standards.;)

thats probably 'visions 2018' your thinking of. the intergration of the domestic and international terminals depends on qantas commiting to moving to the international site. I think there lease runs out on the domestic terminal in 2018. its pretty embarasing atm. the airports are 1km apart but its a 10km drive between them.
so hopefully goodbuy
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid77/p85df2f5467a83f6fc09a3e133063fe88/fb2f7bff.jpg
hello
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid74/p9be0a7d61911cd30cbdbcb8a3a988d1a/fb660fa3.jpg
this part is supposed to start construction this year what will give the international terminal 13 skybridges then the next stage is supposed to start in 06 I think
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid74/p11ad01636b3d509e39dc66c6f8b1a984/fb6607a2.jpg

DrDan
September 16th, 2003, 07:19 AM
Good news for Adelaide airport! It will look fantastic when finished.

Good that they are making accommodations for the new A380 too.

chrisaus
September 16th, 2003, 07:58 AM
still no good renderings?
hope they can get a website now...

and pikey I was asking for a comparison to the old airport on facilities...

AG
September 16th, 2003, 08:55 AM
Business, tourism industries rejoice
By STUART MARTIN
16sep03
SOUTH Australian industry and tourism bodies are rejoicing over the airport deal.

Many firms which bring international visitors to Adelaide have heard less than complimentary comments about the airport, their first impression.

Glenn Cooper, chairman of Coopers Brewery and the Adelaide Convention and Tourism Authority, has been part of a big push for the airport revamp.

"I've been heavily involved in this for a long time," he said.

"The airport was one of the things that was high on my agenda as being wrong with South Australia: it's terrible."

Mr Cooper said it was "absolutely vital" for business and tourism in SA to rejuvenate the airport, a move he suggested was at least two years overdue.

"People haven't said outright that it is an embarrassment – people haven't commented openly – but I travel a lot and the comments overheard from interstate and overseas people ... it is embarrassing to hear it," he said.

Mitsubishi, which has hundreds of staff pass through the airport travelling to and from its headquarters in Japan, has also welcomed the decision.

"We're not aware of any overt comments from visitors that we've had, but obviously we are pleased the new airport is finally under way," a spokesman said.

"That will give us a much better gateway for visitors, giving the place a much better appearance for interstate and overseas visitors." SA Great chief executive Judy Cooper said it was "fabulous" for the state.

"I'm aware that it is something that businesses have very much wanted. They'll be very pleased and excited to hear that this has been signed," she said.

"It's happening – I think that is really good for the future."

The deal for the $240 million domestic and international terminal was finally signed between Qantas and Adelaide Airport Limited yesterday, with a target completion date of November, 2005.

"Let's hope the building of the new Adelaide Airport is as successful as the building of the Adelaide-Darwin rail link in terms of being ahead of schedule," said Mr Cooper.

chrisaus
September 16th, 2003, 09:29 AM
any idea how much the sydney airport expansion costed?

you guys MUST!!!!!!!!!! get pics of the demolishion and have a massive piss up to celebrate:cheers: :D

jacobsian
September 16th, 2003, 10:51 AM
I love Mike Rann's idea - Fill the grasslands around the airport with vineyards :D

kota16
September 16th, 2003, 11:19 AM
Yeah,once again,that has been mentioned so many times about having the vines on drive to the airport.Maybe Rann will modernise SA,in the same way that Joh did it for QLD.Got to give some of the Kiwis from Auckland a bit of credit,in many respects a lot of them are more progressive than some SA pollies.Auckland has a profile that seems to be a cross between Brisbane and Sydney,so Adelaide can benefit .:)

VH-MRH
September 16th, 2003, 11:39 AM
Here are scans from todays Advertiser. Click Here to View it [170Kb] (http://www.matthewhuppatz.com/ypad.jpg)

Now as it stands now, Virgin Blue have a max of 3 aircraft on the ground with pax boarding/deboarding. Which is first thing in the morning between 6:00-6:30 am. There are 1-2 more aircraft for Virgin Blue fleet before the rest go to Pacific Blue (new international arm of VB) so this number I don't expect to grow.

Qantas have 7 aircraft overnight but would use a max of 5 gates at a time over a 30 min period. So they could park the aircraft away from the terminal and tug them into pos when needed or away when not required.

International is different where there is a max of 2 aircraft ever boarding/deboarding at a time, but with a max of 4 international aircarft on the ground at once and this is on Sunday. So really only 2 gates are required for international purposes. So as they do now, they can move the Singapore and Malaysian 777s to a remote parking bay to make room for the other international aircraft

This is good as it means that there is overcapacity and room for growth in the future without the need terminal expansion. All I hope is that there is an open air viewing deck that is good for photos and no light poles in the way.

If the weather is ok, then I will go out there and take some good shots from all angles before they start. Along with my usual aircraft pictures.:)

PinkFloyd
September 16th, 2003, 11:51 AM
Oh, now that I've seen it, it isn't that big.... just alot of airbridges and modern.

chrisaus
September 16th, 2003, 11:59 AM
what part is international ?

AG
September 16th, 2003, 01:08 PM
Originally posted by PinkFloyd
Oh, now that I've seen it, it isn't that big.... just alot of airbridges and modern.

It doesn't look big on the rendering because it doesn't give the dimensions of the building. You have to take in the account of the wingspans of those planes (which are around 60m IIRC) along those 14 aerobridges. It would have to be one long building.

jacobsian
September 16th, 2003, 01:45 PM
Originally posted by AG
It doesn't look big on the rendering because it doesn't give the dimensions of the building. You have to take in the account of the wingspans of those planes (which are around 60m IIRC) along those 14 aerobridges. It would have to be one long building.

AG, I have read that the building is the same length of King William St between Victoria Square and North Terrace! So yes you're right, it's one big bloody building, almost as long as my Long John.

chrisaus
September 16th, 2003, 02:19 PM
he was probably refering the the retailing and check in part...

ill ask again what part is the international part, remember they need customs etc.. and the public can't have access to the depature area
http://www.matthewhuppatz.com/ypad.jpg

kota16
September 16th, 2003, 02:52 PM
The renderings seem to be the 2nd level,which is departure.Arrivals will be at the lower level,and there will be a third level.

chrisaus
September 16th, 2003, 05:17 PM
Virgin Blue Launches New Direct Canberra – Adelaide Today
Virgin Blue’s new daily direct service between Canberra and Adelaide will take off four weeks earlier than planned with the first flight to South Australia departing the ACT this afternoon^.

The flight is scheduled for a convenient early evening departure from Canberra to allow busy travellers to get the most out of their day before flying to Adelaide in time for dinner.

In true Virgin Blue style, Mid-Week Mini-Fares start from as little as $75* one-way on the net with a Fully Flexible fare of $269* one-way on the net, 43% cheaper than Qantas’s Fully Flexible fare of $471 one-way between the two cities.

The non-stop service is aimed at responding to market demand, further nurturing tourism and business opportunities for the two key destinations as well as expanding Virgin Blue’s route network out of Canberra.

Virgin Blue’s Head of Communications, David Huttner, said, “Virgin Blue’s decision to add even more direct services from Canberra is a direct result of the ongoing support from the local tourism industry and operators, as well as business and leisure travellers.”

He continued, “While the people of Canberra are enjoying Virgin Blue’s low fares and excellent service it’s a shame the Federal Government is reluctant to ensure that it gets better value for taxpayers' money through paying premium prices for air travel.”

Canberra travellers will also benefit with the launch of Virgin Blue’s second daily Canberra – Brisbane service and direct weekly flights to and from the Gold Coast, with both services set to take off from the ACT tomorrow, Saturday 6 September

hk-star
September 20th, 2003, 09:47 AM
That's a weird looking airport! Like a ruler. What happens if/when a third domestic carrier starts up?

VH-MRH
September 21st, 2003, 02:38 PM
Got a bit more info from someone who has seen the plans...

The plans were of the departures level which will be the top level. The International gates when not in use will revert back to domestic use. Will be interested to see how that will work.

There will be a dedicated international arrivals level and a dedicated domestic arrivals level. At this stage I am not sure which be be on the bottom/middle.

IF a 3rd airlines comes online, there should be enought gates for them to use in the new terminal. AAL would probably have set aside comon user gates that either QF or VB can use now, and any new entrant can use in the future. But also the current terminal is likely to be heritage listed due to its age and thus will not be allowed to be knocked down, which could be used by the new entrant ;)

Adder-Laid
September 21st, 2003, 06:46 PM
Originally posted by VH-MRH
But also the current terminal is likely to be heritage listed due to its age and thus will not be allowed to be knocked down

That's terrible news! :(

AG
September 22nd, 2003, 08:42 AM
The old terminal not being allowed to be demolished? :puke:

Don't see anything about worth keeping the building. You don't just heritage list buildings because they are old. Surely there are buildings out there in Adelaide that are older and are of a much higher standard of architectural merit that haven't yet been heritage listed.

chrisaus
September 22nd, 2003, 09:01 AM
Originally posted by AG
The old terminal not being allowed to be demolished? :puke:

Don't see anything about worth keeping the building. You don't just heritage list buildings because they are old. Surely there are buildings out there in Adelaide that are older and are of a much higher standard of architectural merit that haven't yet been heritage listed.

It was a joke....
well It better bloody have been...

VH-MRH
September 22nd, 2003, 03:20 PM
Yes it was a joke, just like the current terminal.

Still havent seen any work for the new terminal apart from the work they did months ago. But the new National Jet offices look like they are near completion. Harbour town now has a grand opening date on the sign. Forgot the date but Oct 11 rings a bell....

VH-MRH
September 24th, 2003, 11:16 AM
Here is a shot of the current International terminal. The shed part on the right side with all the air cons was the former Virgin Blue checkin area before they moved in to the former Ansett faciflites at the domestic terminal.

Will take some more if the weather is good over the weekend covering all the angles.

http://www.matthewhuppatz.com/ypadintl.jpg

AG
September 24th, 2003, 11:41 AM
Absolutely shocking at the moment. Very "pov"! From all the photos that I have ever seen of the terminal, I have never actually seen it in action...

chrisaus
September 25th, 2003, 04:15 AM
wow broome airport looks as big & nice as that lol no joke... any pics of the domestic?, I think i remember it being just as bad as that...

Will
September 26th, 2003, 10:23 AM
Originally posted by chrisaus
wow broome airport looks as big & nice as that lol no joke... any pics of the domestic?, I think i remember it being just as bad as that...

Fortunately the domestic airport is slightly better.

But slightly better than a shed is not saying much...

VH-MRH
September 26th, 2003, 11:21 AM
There is an update at the AAL website of pics, press releases and checkin area. Nothin new but better quality than the scan.
http://www.aal.com.au/future/ft_art.asp and http://www.aal.com.au/future/ft_news.asp

I will try and get some pics of the domestic if the weather is good over the weekend when I am not shooting aircraft. But for starters here is an overview of where everything is at the moment.
http://www.matthewhuppatz.com/ypadterm.jpg

chrisaus
October 6th, 2003, 05:51 PM
HARBOUR TOWN @ ADELAIDE AIRPORT
www.harbourtown.com.au/adelaide
http://www.harbourtown.com.au/adelaide/images/adelaide.gif
http://www.harbourtown.com.au/adelaide/images/locationveiw.gif
http://www.harbourtown.com.au/adelaide/images/gallery/7.jpg

chrisaus
October 6th, 2003, 06:00 PM
wow adelaide airport has a webpage... things are looking up:okay:

Adder-Laid
October 7th, 2003, 02:08 AM
Wow, a website! :)

I wonder how long that was up?? It never came up in search engines for me... must be new? :P

chrisaus
October 7th, 2003, 05:43 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/236335/L/

Adder-Laid
October 8th, 2003, 08:29 AM
Oh, and another note: Our nice little viewing spot right next to the main runway is right where the redevelopment is going to take place... so if you think you're going to miss it, i'd say your goodbyes to it in the next month :(

pikey
October 8th, 2003, 08:40 AM
Hey Adder, you do know that an observation platform is part of the Harbour Town development???

Adder-Laid
October 8th, 2003, 09:35 AM
yeah? Get outta town? :) Niiiice :)

pikey
October 8th, 2003, 11:45 PM
Yuh haa - Looky looky

Fantasy land for shoppers
By LAURA ANDERSON
08oct03

IT'S just two weeks until the new $9.8 million Harbour Town shopping complex will throw open its doors to pre-Christmas bargain-hunters.
Timed to coincide with Sunday trading in the suburbs, the development, adjacent to Adelaide Airport, will have more than 12,000 square metres of retail shopping.

The complex, the first of its kind in South Australia, will be home to more than 60 retail shops.

Retail brands like Calvin Klein, Morrissey, Dolce & Gabbana and Ralph Lauren will be on offer in the West Beach development, as well as homewares stores such as Mikasa, Sheridan Australia and Table Top & Kitchen.

The stores will be offering end-of-season and specifically produced brand direct goods which will be discounted by up to 60 per cent.

Centre manager Sue Trussell said yesterday the development would house "a range of fashion, footwear and homewares for men, women and children".

"It will be a destination with everything in one place. As well as having an atmosphere that will make people feel like they are on holiday," she said.

"When people come here they know they will be coming here to shop."

The complex will open its doors on Wednesday, October 23 and in time for Sunday trading which gets under way on October 26.

The project will also create an estimated 400 full-time and part-time retail jobs.

The design of the brand direct outlet shopping centre is based on the original Harbour Town at Queensland's Gold Coast which is Australia's largest brand direct retail facility.

Its opening in 1999 caused hour-long traffic jams as thousands of people flocked to the centre.

Another Harbour Town complex will open in Perth next month.

Ms Trussell said the development would be home to national and international brands as well as well-known names such as Esprit, Table Eight, JAG, Portmans, Jetty Surf and Youthworks.

The main features of the development will be:

A SINGLE-LEVEL, open-air pedestrian street of shops.

AN observation deck overlooking the airport.

ALFRESCO cafes and restaurants.

A TOURIST lounge.

ABOUT 600 car parking spaces.

Principal of architect company Hassell, Lu Balsamo, claimed the state-of-the-art development was "great for Adelaide".

"The observation deck offers a classic view of Adelaide. People can sit at the tables and chairs and plane-spot," he said.

The development, off Tapleys Hill Rd, is a joint project between ING Real Estate Development Australia and The Lewis Land Group.

ING development manager Greg Boyd said "it has been an exceptional effort to be finished within a 10-month time frame".

------------------------------

Not bad hey? ;)

kota16
October 9th, 2003, 04:57 AM
Great! Is this another mob from QLD?.What I saw on TV looks like a bit of the Pacific Fair Plaza on the Gold Coast.I hope our dreary city council people go out for a look,they might get a few ideas on how to brighten Rundle Mall.;)

kota16
October 9th, 2003, 04:58 AM
Great! Is this another mob from QLD?.What I saw on TV looks like a bit of the Pacific Fair Plaza on the Gold Coast.I hope our dreary city council people go out for a look,they might get a few ideas on how to brighten Rundle Mall.)

chrisaus
October 9th, 2003, 05:28 AM
whats with you and double posts?
there is a harbour town on the gold goast, ones UC in perth and adelaide and ones planned for sydney and melbourne. they have factory outlet stores.

kota16
October 9th, 2003, 06:22 AM
Yeah,double posts are gooney!Tried to delete,not sure how it happened,as before.Already the Marion Plaza shopowners are grizzling about it.They don't want competition.

chrisaus
October 9th, 2003, 06:55 AM
factory direct stores are different from your average shopping mall though... and skrew the marion guys its called competition

jacobsian
October 9th, 2003, 06:59 AM
Originally posted by kota16
Yeah,double posts are gooney!Tried to delete,not sure how it happened,as before.Already the Marion Plaza shopowners are grizzling about it.They don't want competition.

At the same time though, the Glenelg shop owners don't really have a problem with it (if the news report/interviews with store clerks is anything to go by).

VH-MRH
October 11th, 2003, 11:47 AM
Another shot of the international terminal. This time there are airplanes sitting at the terminal.

http://www.matthewhuppatz.com/ypadintl2.jpg

chrisaus
October 11th, 2003, 05:57 PM
2 planes:eek:

kota16
October 12th, 2003, 12:58 AM
With Adelaide and its geographical position,we have to be realistic.The House of Australia has 7 doorways,DRW,CNS,BNE,SYD,MEL,ADL and PER (International Gateway Airports) and Adelaide is like the back kitchen door,which is why only about 300,000 international passengers arrive and depart on direct flights.In a nutshell,Adelaide is the Gateway to Outback.We watch the SYD-PER and MEL-PER flights overhead in the sky nowdays.Drove past the Harbour Town complex on Tapleys Hill Rd yesterday,its certainly an impressive landmark,and bigger than I thought.Great to see some new development there,and a taste of things to come with new Terminal.:D

VH-MRH
October 12th, 2003, 12:45 PM
Today there were a total of 5 international aircraft with a max of 4 on the groud at the same time.

Here is a shot of Harbour Town from today
http://www.matthewhuppatz.com/htown.jpg

pikey
October 15th, 2003, 01:25 AM
This harbour town scares me. Purely and simply due to the look my wife gets when she sees the commercial!!!

:runaway:

Nah this should be bloody awesome, I'm sick of Marion. Plus with the observation deck there will be some choice shots of the skyline!!

Will
October 19th, 2003, 09:02 AM
Can't wait for Harbour Town to open (Thursday 23) I will definately be down there this weekend.

The observation deck is going to be great!

pikey
October 23rd, 2003, 05:48 AM
Harbour Town's all open causing big fuck off hasles on Tapley's Hill road!!! You couldn't half pick that happening!!

And Virgin has signed off on the Airport redevelopment meaning construction will officially start in 4 weeks!!! About fucking time!!!

DrDan
October 23rd, 2003, 09:42 AM
Yep, that's right. It will officially start on November 17 and be ready by Oct, 2005.

pikey
October 24th, 2003, 12:01 AM
Virgin signs on_-_now it's terminal velocity
By STUART INNES
24oct03

CONSTRUCTION of Adelaide Airport's long-awaited new terminal will begin on November 17, with Virgin Blue yesterday signing on as a major tenant for the $240 million building.
With Qantas also signing on last month, work can go ahead on the 750m-long, two-storey terminal complex.

Virgin Blue's head of ground services, Diederik Pen, flew from the head office in Brisbane for yesterday's signing at the airport.

Mr Pen said Virgin had not tried to deliberately delay the process – contract negotiations had been "tough, hard but fair".

"It's a very exciting day," he said. "You will see in two years' time, it is just a fantastic facility. There's a lot of development_._._. and a lot of money involved."

Premier Mike Rann said the project's go-ahead was a vote of economic confidence in the state.

Adelaide Airport Ltd managing director Phil Baker said completion was expected by October, 2005. A sod-turning ceremony would be held next month.

The terminal will be sited west of the existing international terminal and will cater to international and domestic flights.

Forty check-in desks will be shared by the airlines and there will be five luggage carousels.

It will also have 14 gate-to-plane bridges.

However, Virgin Blue still will embark and disembark passengers via the tarmac for a faster turn-around of aircraft.

DrDan
October 24th, 2003, 03:11 AM
However, Virgin Blue still will embark and disembark passengers via the tarmac for a faster turn-around of aircraft.

That's crap.

pikey
October 24th, 2003, 05:14 AM
I'm sure after enough outcry, they'll use the bridges.

Oh well, I'm with Qantas - no more walking on the tarmace for me!!

jacobsian
October 24th, 2003, 09:55 AM
Originally posted by DrDan
That's crap.

They are a budget airline. People like me who don't give a rats ass about aerobridges like them for their prices, not features. Hell, I had to walk on the tarmac at sydney airport when I took virgin blue last time, I didn't have a problem with it...

chrisaus
October 24th, 2003, 10:07 AM
it would be stupid not to use them as there are going to be 14... thats heaps to cater for all airlines... walking onto the tarmac is just funny

Adelarch
October 24th, 2003, 10:46 AM
On the contrary, walking onto the tarmac is rather nice – I’ve always enjoyed stepping off the plane in Adelaide and seeing the hills in the distance, breathing the fresh air etc. Gives the arrival some character. Unfortunately you then notice the crappy old buildings - but ofcourse that’ll all be changing soon…

chrisaus
October 24th, 2003, 03:44 PM
it would be alot of work for the security dudes, after sept 11...

VH-MRH
October 26th, 2003, 12:13 PM
Sod turn ceremony is on Nov 2nd.

Virgin do use the aerobriges if weather isn't that favorable, otherwise you walk on the tarmac. But I have also seen them use the aerobridge and rear stairs to deplane/board flights when the weather is fine. This has happen to me at Perth, Brisbane, Sydney and Melbourne.

Anyway, this weeks pic is from Saturday morning with a Malaysian 777 about to touch down and International terminal in the background.
http://www.matthewhuppatz.com/mhint.jpg

pikey
October 29th, 2003, 01:28 AM
It's been mooted by Harbison that an all new central Bus Terminal be built at the Airport along with a major taxi distribution centre. New bus routes would be made too and from the Airport, and also several free shuttle bus services to specific parts of town (CBD, Norwood, Harbour Town, Glenelg etc). I think that this is a fantastic idea, consolidating the major transport centres into one new complex.
And it leaves the other site open to more developments. :D

kota16
October 29th, 2003, 03:00 AM
You are wrong about having a bus interchange at airport Pikey,they would use old terminal.The right place is above Keswick station,which could be a gateway landmark for Adelaide,with a mix of budget accomodation and restaurents(around$40million).The main attraction for tourists out of Adelaide is 'The Ghan' to Darwin,and ADL is gateway to outback.Look what Sydney did with old rail yards at Darling Harbour!.Why is it that so many Adelaide people are like Ostriches,with their heads in the sand?.Have a read of this weeks Messenger paper,a story about 'Adelaide Mindset off the Rails':rant:

pikey
October 29th, 2003, 05:44 AM
Originally posted by kota16
You are wrong about having a bus interchange at airport Pikey,they would use old terminal.The right place is above Keswick station,which could be a gateway landmark for Adelaide,with a mix of budget accomodation and restaurents(around$40million).The main attraction for tourists out of Adelaide is 'The Ghan' to Darwin,and ADL is gateway to outback.Look what Sydney did with old rail yards at Darling Harbour!.Why is it that so many Adelaide people are like Ostriches,with their heads in the sand?.Have a read of this weeks Messenger paper,a story about 'Adelaide Mindset off the Rails':rant:

I'm just going by the news report on 10 on monday night with Harbison who wants to base the new terminal at the Airport. :?

AG
October 29th, 2003, 07:07 AM
Sorry, but I really think that the bus terminal on Franklin Street should stay in it's current location. It needs a new plan for a new facility and for other uses above it's site as well. My original idea was that the bus terminal be relocated to where the interstate station is, but who the hell is gonna walk into the city, or pay a heap of money just to go by taxi? The Keswick Railway Station also needs a major uplift both functionally and aesthically. A tram line should operate from the new terminal to Victoria Square in the city. If not that, then a commuter rail line from the terminal to the city.

jacobsian
October 29th, 2003, 10:09 AM
AG, have you ever used that bus terminal?

chrisaus
October 29th, 2003, 10:15 AM
I would love to see SA's debt if AG was leader of SA:laugh:

AG
October 29th, 2003, 10:30 AM
Originally posted by yob
AG, have you ever used that bus terminal?

Funny you should ask that, oddly enough, yes, I have twice. It is absolutely horrible. Just about everyone was forced to sit out by the side of the road when we were there. It was also frickken freezing at that time during the middle of last year while waiting to go to Melbourne.

kota16
October 29th, 2003, 02:00 PM
I think everybody should take a trip to Brisbane and look at their Transit Centre which is built over the Roma St railway station.Adelaide has a population of 1100000 people,and the Franklin St Depot is not connected to any transport.The powers that be here just dont get it,in understanding how public transport should function.There was another bus strike this aftermnoon by drivers of Serco.>(

kota16
October 29th, 2003, 02:02 PM
I think everybody should take a trip to Brisbane and look at their Transit Centre which is built over the Roma St railway station.Adelaide has a population of 1100000 people,and the Franklin St Depot is not connected to any transport.The powers that be here just dont get it,in understanding how public transport should function.There was another bus strike this aftermnoon by drivers of Serco.

pikey
November 5th, 2003, 06:40 AM
Originally posted by VH-MRH
Sod turn ceremony is on Nov 2nd.


Did anyone go to this???

pikey
November 6th, 2003, 10:07 PM
Runway success: the airport mini-city
By LAURA ANDERSON
07nov03

BUSINESS at Adelaide Airport is taking off, with commercial developments planned for the site promising to build a city within a city.
The latest $9.8 million Harbour Town shopping centre already has proved a commercial success and up to $70 million worth of other developments are planned for the complex in the next few years.

Adelaide Airport Ltd managing director Phil Baker said yesterday that about half of the airport's revenue was now generated by non-aeronautical facilities.

"If there was ever doubt about demand, (the level of demand) has been proven with Harbour Town," Mr Baker said.

Thousands of customers have flooded through the doors of Harbour Town since it opened on October 23.

"The response has been overwhelming. Many stores have had to bring in stock from interstate and the car parks are always overflowing," Harbour Town spokeswoman Dianne Jones said yesterday. Further developments planned include:

A $6 MILLION aged care facility.

A $9 MILLION 18-hole golf course on 60ha of land.

A 40HA Burbridge Business Park, comprising office, technology and warehouse facilities worth $50 million.

A $500,000 office warehouse for the eastern side of the airport site.

Additions this year have included a $1.2 million Bureau of Meteorology complex and an $8 million National Jet Systems base.

Construction of the $240 million upgrade of the airport's terminal building is scheduled to start on November 17, with completion expected by October, 2005.

There is also a jobs boom, with new developments and the advent of Virgin Blue adding up to 700 employees to a workforce surveyed to be about 8000 in 1998.

However, airport development has its critics, including West Torrens mayor John Trainer, who has planning concerns.

"We welcome local investment but, unfortunately, developments on (federally controlled) airport land are not subject to the same planning controls that would apply ._._. if it was anywhere else in West Torrens," he said.

Will
November 9th, 2003, 01:17 AM
Originally posted by pikey
Did anyone go to this???


According to the last article, construction will now start on November 17.

Hopefully there wont be many set-backs.

AG
November 9th, 2003, 02:49 AM
Originally posted by Will
According to the last article, construction will now start on November 17.

Hopefully there wont be many set-backs.

There's been too many already for this project! I don't just wanna hear dates and stuff, I wanna see some action! :guns1:

pikey
November 11th, 2003, 06:51 AM
Bring on this monday!!! Cannot wait to see this beeatch start!

A mate of mine who lives near the airport and goes for walks there says that there were plently of demolition specialists were there taking measurements today

pikey
November 11th, 2003, 09:48 PM
It was on the news this morning as I was coming into work that site preperation starts today with official construction starting monday. :cool:

DrDan
November 12th, 2003, 07:37 AM
Looks good. It's going to be able to simulatenously handle 27 planes and 3000 people/hr.

pikey
November 12th, 2003, 10:15 PM
Airport that will bring passengers in from cold
By Tourism Writer STUART INNES
13nov03

AIRBRIDGES will soon be a familiar sight for travellers at Adelaide Airport.
The new passenger terminal will be 750m long, taking up to 27 aircraft at once, 14 of them served by airbridges.

The terminal will be one of South Australia's biggest building projects – a $240 million undertaking that had its sod-turning ceremony yesterday.

Replacing the 21-year-old international building – once famously described as a tin shed by former premier John Olsen – is well overdue.

At the first scraping of the ground by a grader for the combined regional, interstate and international terminal, the smile would not leave Adelaide Airport Ltd managing director Phil Baker's face.

"I always knew it was coming," he said of the start. "I just didn't know when."

Mr Baker and AAL took over running the airport in mid-1998 and came in with an understanding that plans were well under way for a new terminal.

But plans were not as advanced as he believed.

He and his team have spent years negotiating with airlines, building firms and banks to achieve a new terminal.

"We were ready to go in September 2001, but you all know what happened then," he said, referring to the collapse of Ansett Airlines shortly after an agreement had been reached with them on the new terminal.

Peter Kennedy, chief executive of construction contractor Hansen Yuncken, said the new terminal would be the biggest project his firm had handled in the state.

"They don't come much bigger than this," he said. "It's probably the largest commercial building contract done in South Australia."

As well as stretching 750m, the terminal will be up to 110m wide and have two storeys plus a mezzanine level, totalling 75,000sq_m of floor space. It will have 40 check-in desks and five arrival baggage carousels.

Mr Baker said few people had any perception of how big the terminal would be – roughly Victoria Square to Parliament House in length. Mr Kennedy said people going to the airport would be able to see its progress unfold over the next 23 months.

Premier Mike Rann said the terminal would be a new front door "and SA deserves the best possible front door to the world".

"It's going to be a massive construction project, employing 820 people and will have a floor area three times bigger than Adelaide Oval. It's a giant project," Mr Rann said. "It is something we will be proud of."

chrisaus
November 13th, 2003, 06:13 AM
international airport only 21 years old:? god I hope this one doesen't age as fast:colgate:

AG
November 13th, 2003, 06:53 AM
Originally posted by chrisaus
international airport only 21 years old:? god I hope this one doesen't age as fast:colgate:

Well, who knows what people will be thinking in 20 years time about the architecture of the 90's and very early 21st century? I also hope the same thing as you chrisaus, but if it does age (if none of the other airports are upgraded after Adelaide Airport), it probably won't age as fast as other airports.

Will
November 14th, 2003, 09:09 AM
Originally posted by chrisaus
international airport only 21 years old:? god I hope this one doesen't age as fast:colgate:


I don't think the new terminal will age as fast as the current one.

The reason I say this is the current terminal was built only to accomodate 1982 demands, with no forsight of the future.

This new airport will accomodate the future.

pikey
November 17th, 2003, 10:02 PM
Well, I guess this one's all officially under construction now. Has anyone had a gander down at the site???

VH-MRH
November 18th, 2003, 11:08 AM
I was there 2 times today to photo some aircraft and see what they have done so far.

They have started some demolition work on the city side of the international terminal. This is the first bit of the terminal as you drive past it..

Also near the observation mound there is a huge pile of fence and also dirt.

That is it, but I guess it is only day 2....

pikey
November 20th, 2003, 10:11 PM
I guess at least the government is becoming quite pro-active -

SA joins fight for low-cost airline
By GREG KELTON
21nov03

THE State Government has launched a multi-million dollar bid for Qantas's new low-cost airline to be based in Adelaide.
Premier Mike Rann, Treasurer Kevin Foley and Economic Development Board chairman Robert de Crespigny have all spoken to Qantas.

Mr Rann confirmed the bid yesterday, saying it would mean the creation of hundreds of new jobs in SA.

But Adelaide is up against stiff competition from Brisbane, Coolangatta and Tullamarine airports for the plum new airline base.

Qantas has already ruled out Sydney. A final decision on the preferred location is not expected before next year.

Mr Rann said that while the Government knew it was fighting a tough battle, he believed the state had some important advantages, such as the low number of industrial disputes.

"Getting the airline here would be a major boost for the new Adelaide Airport," he said.

"While it is important to realise we are not the frontrunners in this, it would be fantastic to have an entirely new airline operating out of this state using SA-based flight crews."

Qantas announced last month it would launch a new low-cost domestic airline next May and make it a separate business with its own brand.

The Qantas board approved the establishment of the new entity, part of company plans to cut costs by $1 billion in the next two years, at a meeting in Adelaide on October 15.

Qantas managing director Geoff Dixon said the new airline would either use the operation of the former low-cost carrier Impulse, which was acquired by Qantas in 2001, or create a new one.

The company is negotiating with Boeing, Airbus and aircraft lessors to acquire a minimum of 23 aircraft – either Boeing 737-800s or Airbus A320s – for the new carrier.

It is understood the aircraft will cost Qantas between $52 million and $65 million.

The discount airline will be aimed at holiday makers flying to destinations such as the Gold Coast, Hamilton Island and Cairns.

jacobsian
November 20th, 2003, 11:26 PM
The first thing that went through my mind is that we may try to lure Qantas based on the income differential, and finally use it to our advantage. A recent report found that over 85% of all people who moved interstate did so for higher incomes in eastern states - but luring Qantas could be just as easy as telling them that their labour costs would be lower, and whammo!

KrYpNoTiC
December 20th, 2003, 04:19 AM
Does anyone have any progress info. I would really like to know whats happening now:?

AG
December 20th, 2003, 09:33 AM
I went through the airport this arvo,and not much has happened yet. The ground is still being ripped up at the moment.

KrYpNoTiC
December 21st, 2003, 12:27 AM
Originally posted by AG
I went through the airport this arvo,and not much has happened yet. The ground is still being ripped up at the moment.
Cheers AG. BTW would u know the current stats for airport traffic in Australia. I would like to see how Adelaide is doing.

VH-MRH
December 21st, 2003, 02:32 AM
Not much will happen till after Jan 5 when the whole area will be fenced off and the new taxi waiting area is completed. The taxis will soon que next to the Aus Air Express cargo area as in their current position they will be in the way of construction.

They removed the old Virgin Blue checkin and terminal straco huts this week. The old security hut and buildings near the Intl terminal are all gone now also.

Also have been told that there should be a model of the new terminal in the current terminal in there now or very soon...

KrYpNoTiC
December 21st, 2003, 06:22 AM
Originally posted by VH-MRH
Not much will happen till after Jan 5 when the whole area will be fenced off and the new taxi waiting area is completed. The taxis will soon que next to the Aus Air Express cargo area as in their current position they will be in the way of construction.

They removed the old Virgin Blue checkin and terminal straco huts this week. The old security hut and buildings near the Intl terminal are all gone now also.

Also have been told that there should be a model of the new terminal in the current terminal in there now or very soon... Thx for that man. Looking forward to seeing old Int terminal being demolished.
:D

Adder-Laid
December 21st, 2003, 08:34 PM
Originally posted by VH-MRH
Also have been told that there should be a model of the new terminal in the current terminal in there now or very soon... Yup, it's there...

Went to the airport the other day, but was in QANTAS arrivals... I could see it, but couldn't see it closely as it's in the Departure area near the window that blocks the arrivals from departures...

pikey
January 31st, 2004, 04:43 AM
Went down to the airport yeasterday to pick up my folks. I couldn't get over the amount of earthworks that had occured. There was this big fuck off drill looking thingy (technical term) so I guess it's for pilling or something or other. Lot of shit going on - worth a look

AG
January 31st, 2004, 05:26 AM
Originally posted by Adder-Laid
Yup, it's there...

Went to the airport the other day, but was in QANTAS arrivals... I could see it, but couldn't see it closely as it's in the Departure area near the window that blocks the arrivals from departures...

I saw it as I came through there before getting to Sydney. Compared to the current international terminal, that thing looks about 5 times it's size! It looks like a slightly larger version of Sydney's domestic terminal, only that the higher side in Adelaide will be completely glass and face out towards the hills.

There's some info written on the sides of the base of the model too.

kota16
February 1st, 2004, 08:31 PM
AirParadise the Balinese airline will start services to Adelaide on 2 March 04.It will have flights on Tuesday and Thursdays to Denpasar,the capital of the Indonesian Province. www.airparadise.com.au

perthguy78
February 11th, 2004, 10:04 AM
wow good news...
ADL does need more international air links...

chrisaus
February 11th, 2004, 10:16 AM
Originally posted by kota16
AirParadise the Balinese airline will start services to Adelaide on 2 March 04.It will have flights on Tuesday and Thursdays to Denpasar,the capital of the Indonesian Province. www.airparadise.com.au
its all good for adelaide, shorter and cheaper flights:okay:

KrYpNoTiC
February 14th, 2004, 06:32 AM
Im predicting major boom in International connections from ADL airport. Otherwise they wouldnt be building such a huge new terminal. ADL is obviously booming.

chrisaus
February 15th, 2004, 06:26 AM
arn't they only putting in 2 international skybridges? if so don't expect any more international flights, or it will be back to walking on the tarmac. when looking at the old terminals that tells you why the new one is going up:cool:

kota16
February 15th, 2004, 08:00 AM
Not sure about that.The way I figured the situation is that with the 14 airbridges any number of the central ones could be used for international aircraft.The plan is different to say Melbourne,where fingers project on to tarmac.Let s say that there were 3 each of Qantas and Virgin domestic at both ends,that would still leave 8 gates at the centre.

KIWIKAAS
February 23rd, 2004, 12:22 PM
As far as I know there will be 4 wide body multiuse (intl/domestic) airbridges in the central concourse.

chrisaus
February 24th, 2004, 08:56 AM
how can they be multi-use when international passengers go through customs etc.. and domestic passengers don't? they won't be able to just chop and change, the international part would have to be very seperate, because they are very different 'operations'

kota16
February 24th, 2004, 09:53 AM
Yes,thats what I thought.But looking at the plan it seems that some of the central gates will be used by either domestic or international flights.In other words,passengers will be herded around and gates closed similar to cattle yards.Sunday mornings is when most flights from overseas arrive together,and think at the most you would see about 5 aircraft at the same time.We will just have to wait and see.Adelaide is nowhere near as busy as Perth,which is a major gateway city.Especially from South East Asia.

KIWIKAAS
February 24th, 2004, 09:55 AM
Not at all Chris. Its a question of channeling from the airbridge onwards. Domestic pax just walk out to the bagage claim, intl pax are channeled down to customs. Gold Coast uses this method, Queenstown, Dunedin, Hamilton, and Palmerston Nth in NZ also do this. Its quite easy....shut one door and open another.

RedLadar
February 27th, 2004, 07:08 AM
If anyone is interested, Adelaide Airport now have a web cam in place which can be accessed by going to www.aal.com.au and clicking on 'future terminal' button. The camera in use is a fish-eye camera so encompasses the entire construction site and photographs on the web will be updated daily. It was only uploaded to web today so there may be a few teething problems - after that you should be able to watch progress as it occurs!!

chrisaus
February 27th, 2004, 07:38 AM
shite adelaide doesen't have many international flights!! and even the ones adelaide have alot arn't direct! perth would have more internation flights in a day than adelaide in a week, lets hope the new airport will bring some international attention to adelaide and bring more direct international flights, more international airlines and destinations on a more regular basis. I think the only flight qantas have from adelaide is singapore via darwin!!!!
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INTERNATIONAL FLIGHTS ARRIVING AT ADELAIDE
Current as of October 10, 2003

Day Flight Arrive From ACFT
Sun MH139 0615 Kuala Lumpur B777
SQ229 0750 Singapore B777
QF082 1010 Singapore / Darwin B763
CX105 1030 Hong Kong B330

Mon QF081 1125 Sydney B763

Tue GA724 0700 Denpasar A330
MH139 0715 Kuala Lumpur B777
SQ7292 2020 Melbourne B74F

Wed SQ229 0750 Singapore B777
QF082 1010 Singapore / Darwin B763
CX105 1030 Hong Kong B330

Thu MH139 0715 Kuala Lumpur B777
SQ229 0800 Singapore B777

Fri GA724 0700 Denpasar A330
QF082 1010 Singapore / Darwin B763

Sat MH139 0700 Kuala Lumpur B777
SQ229 0750 Singapore B777


INTERNATIONAL FLIGHTS DEPARTING FROM ADELAIDE
Current as of October 10, 2003

Day Flight Depart To ACFT

Sun MH138 1530 Kuala Lumpur B777
SQ230 1430 Singapore B777
QF082 1110 Sydney B763
CX104 1150 Melbourne / Hong Kong B330

Mon QF081 1225 Darwin / Singapore B763

Tue GA725 0805 Melbourne / Denpasar A330
MH138 1530 Kuala Lumpur B777
SQ7291 2150 Singapore B74F

Wed SQ230 1430 Singapore B777
QF081 1225 Darwin / Singapore B763
CX104 1150 Melbourne / Hong Kong B330

Thu MH138 1530 Kuala Lumpur B777
SQ230 1430 Singapore B777

Fri GA725 0805 Melbourne / Denpasar A330
QF081 1225 Darwin / Singapore B763

Sat MH138 1530 Kuala Lumpur B777
SQ230 1430 Singapore B777

Adelarch
February 27th, 2004, 09:37 AM
If anyone is interested, Adelaide Airport now have a web cam in place which can be accessed by going to www.aal.com.au and clicking on 'future terminal' button. The camera in use is a fish-eye camera so encompasses the entire construction site and photographs on the web will be updated daily. It was only uploaded to web today so there may be a few teething problems - after that you should be able to watch progress as it occurs!!

Good find ;)

At the moment the site looks a bit like the Gobi Desert, so there'll be a definite wow factor watching a huge state of the art facility pop up.

KIWIKAAS
February 27th, 2004, 10:21 AM
Originally posted by chrisaus
shite adelaide doesen't have many international flights!! and even the ones adelaide have alot arn't direct! perth would have more internation flights in a day than adelaide in a week, lets hope the new airport will bring some international attention to adelaide and bring more direct international flights, more international airlines and destinations on a more regular basis. I think the only flight qantas have from adelaide is singapore via darwin!!!!
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Considering its strategic possition between Perth and Melbourne I think its quite logical that ADL has fewer direct intl flights. As it is 4 direct flights to KL, and flights to SIN and HKG with stop isnt bad considering domestic connections to intl flights are easy from ADL. To use Calgary as an example. Calgary is a major airport in Canada but as it lies between the large eastern cities and Vancouver it recieves mainly interline international (domestic connections). This says nothing about the importance of the city, it is just the most practical solution offering maximum services and routes. Servicing all cities with direct intl flights is not financially viable.

KrYpNoTiC
March 17th, 2004, 11:01 AM
Any new news of ADL airport. How is construction going?

Adder-Laid
March 17th, 2004, 02:42 PM
As far as I could see, this week they're still leveling the ground, haven't really even started on any foundations or anything yet... as soon as it starts rising, I'll be sure to take some piccies :)

RedLadar
March 18th, 2004, 02:09 AM
Work is currently being undertaken on preparing the different load bearings in-ground - ie, deeper & different load bearing materials are utilised where aircraft move/park as opposed to the foundation area for the building, etc. Also trenching and pile driving is underway for the underground refuelling system and building works.

How do I add pictures here - I have a few from ground level taken within the site?

pikey
March 18th, 2004, 03:21 AM
PM me and I'll whack em up for you

Will
March 26th, 2004, 08:35 AM
This is from the Wednesday 24/3 Guardian Messenger:

PROGRESS ON AIRPORT TERMINAL

The new Adelaide Airport terminal will show visible progress in the next two weeks.
The terminal's base platform is 70% finished and the steel framework, being built offsite, will be put in place by the first week of April.
Adelaide Airport Limited's (AAL) corporate affairs manager John McArdle said the shape of the building would soon be apparent.
"We're downloading a photograph of the site, taken at noon every day, onto our website." he said. "People, will be able to say, that's what it was like yesterday, let's see what it's like today."

AG
March 26th, 2004, 09:01 AM
Here ya go, the terminal today, taken from Adelaide Airport Limited's website:
http://www.aal.com.au/future/cam/pic0058.jpg

AG
March 26th, 2004, 09:04 AM
Has anyone seen any of the concepts for the land surrounding Adelaide Airport? If not, find them at this link: http://www.aal.com.au/home.asp?p=mp,mp

Will
March 26th, 2004, 09:43 AM
http://www.aal.com.au/future/i/ft_cc2.jpg


http://www.aal.com.au/future/i/ft_ci1.jpg

http://www.aal.com.au/future/i/ft_ci2.jpg


http://www.aal.com.au/future/i/ft_ci3.jpg

http://www.aal.com.au/future/i/pic1.jpg

http://www.aal.com.au/future/i/pic3.jpg

pikey
April 7th, 2004, 06:37 AM
Latest construction Pic

http://www.aal.com.au/future/cam/pic0070.jpg

kota16
April 7th, 2004, 07:05 AM
It was great to see some movement when I arrived back from Darwin a few days back.My taxi driver was not too impressed with the Glenelg NIMBY people,saying how much he liked what had been built down there.Had a pleasant trip up on the Ghan,talked to people from all over the planet and Australia.One could always pick the South Aussies,by their constrained and narrow outlooks. :)

Adelarch
April 30th, 2004, 04:47 AM
Starting to look like crane city now
http://www.aal.com.au/future/cam/pic0110.jpg

nagelixin
April 30th, 2004, 07:38 AM
Looks good, but it would look better if they used LCD or Plasma display panels instead of traditional TVs to display landings/departures etc.

Adelarch
May 17th, 2004, 10:24 AM
The building frame is getting whacked up pretty quickly now - these guys aren't twiddling their thumbs. Looking forward to seeing it on my next trip to Adelaide

http://www.aal.com.au/future/cam/pic0138.jpg

AG
May 17th, 2004, 11:12 AM
Off topic, but why is this project still listed as proposed under it's title? It's well under construction people! :)

Adder-Laid
May 20th, 2004, 01:04 PM
They also seem to be building it in 2 sections, and then filling in between the two?

went past today for a gawk, might have to take the digi-cam next time...

Adder-Laid
May 31st, 2004, 08:02 AM
Some crapy shots -

http://users.bigpond.net.au/gpexa/aa1.jpg
http://users.bigpond.net.au/gpexa/aa2.jpg

AtD
May 31st, 2004, 09:39 AM
Thanks for that.

Not being able to go past the Airport that often it's nice to see how it's progressing.

KrYpNoTiC
May 31st, 2004, 10:01 AM
Wow its coming together preety fast.
When this new terminal is built Singapore, Malaysian, Garuda and Qantas are all going to increase flight to and from Adelaide. I was told that Emirates and Air New Zealand will fly to Adelaide once this terminal is built and theres also a possibility that Japan Air (JAL) and China Air will fly to Adelaide too. Hence theres possibility of British Airlines returing to Adelaide or maybe United Airlines. Anyway its all good for Adelaide.
The reason that Adelaide hasn't got many international airlines flying to Adelaide is coz of availability and size. Adel Int has only 2 gates for international airlines. The international terminal was built only to cater for the 1980's demand and they never thought of the future. Looking forward to seeing the new terminal.

kota16
May 31st, 2004, 01:23 PM
Yeah! Thanks Adder-Laid for the pics. It is a site for sore eyes to see some development at long last. :)

Adelarch
May 31st, 2004, 02:16 PM
Yeah nice pics thanks - much more detail than you can make out on the dodgy webcam. I'm presuming the crappy old buildings in the pictures are going, right?

TooFar
May 31st, 2004, 04:36 PM
Great, when is it due for completion? Ill be back in town for a visit next year, hopefully it will be finished. I also hope the rumour of United Airlines turns out to be true, that would be a good thing.

Adder-Laid
May 31st, 2004, 05:28 PM
The pics I took only show a cross section of the building, and don't show any of it's length... The bit shown is actually the centre entrance area...and won't be that wide the whole way.... I'll try to take some better pics sometime...

I think it's due for completion Oct/Nov '05... It's a big building, so it'd take a while to be fitted out I'd say...

It'll have 77,000sq. m of floorspace... does anyone have any figures for other Australian airports? How will it compare? They are touting it to be the most "efficient" airport in the country. You'd hope so too, being the newest :P

Adder-Laid
May 31st, 2004, 05:33 PM
NEWS release
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
May 26, 2004

WATCHING NEW AIRPORT TERMINAL TAKE SHAPE

AAL aims to minimise construction impact on passengers

From today (Wednesday, May 26), passengers and visitors to Adelaide Airport will be able to watch the new $260 million terminal take shape before their eyes. A plasma screen showing a live feed of construction activity captured from a ‘web camera’ has been installed in the public area of the international terminal building. “Building activity is well advanced and clearly shows that Adelaide’s long awaited new terminal is well and truly on the way,” says the Managing Director of Adelaide Airport Limited, Phil Baker. “Passengers and visitors to the airport can see building progress as they drive into the airport, but the live feed into the international terminal provides an aerial view of
exactly how the project is taking shape.”

The images shown on the plasma screen are taken every second by a webcam fitted to a water tower located near the existing international terminal. The images also can be viewed on Adelaide Airport’s website, www.aal.com.au.

Construction on the new terminal began six months ago, with workers currently erecting the steel framework for the two-storey terminal.
Mr Baker said efforts were being made to limit the impact of construction on passengers. “A passenger tunnel between the aircraft and the international terminal is almost complete and will provide some shelter to international travellers during the winter months,” he said. “The tunnel has been built to replace the international aerobridge, which was removed in April so that building works could proceed closer to the existing international terminal. “The airlines and the travelling public have been very understanding about these changes.

These inconveniences cannot be avoided and are part of creating a modern new airport terminal for South Australians.”

The $260 million new terminal is one of the most significant commercial construction projects under way in Adelaide. The new terminal will be owned and operated by the privately owned Adelaide Airport Limited (AAL), whose shareholders include a number of Australian superannuation funds.


FAST facts
Project Value: $260 million
Description: The new terminal meets the needs of domestic, international and
regional travellers across all airlines servicing Adelaide through
flexible passenger facilitation processes
Location: Immediately adjacent existing Adelaide International Terminal
Features: State-of-the-art passenger facilities and security systems, retail
centre and high amenity public and airline lounges. Flight
information and other technology specified for service well into the
future.
Capacity: In excess of 3000 passengers per busy hour capacity
Up to 27 simultaneous aircraft (A380 capable)
High amenity public and airline lounges
14 glass-sided aerobridges directly linking aircraft to the terminal
building
40 common use check-in desks
9 automated baggage carousels (4 for departure and 5 for arrival)
Under-cover drop-offs and expanded taxi/bus ranks
Contemporary design to provide an exciting and welcoming
gateway to South Australia.
Dimensions: Length: Approximately 750 m (roughly the length of King
William St from North Tce to Victoria Sq)
Width: Approximately 110 m (at widest point)
Height: Two storeys with a Mezzanine level
Floor area: Approximately 77,000 square metres
(equivalent of more than three Adelaide Ovals)
Economic
impact:
It is expected the new terminal will have far-reaching benefits for
the State’s commercial and tourism sectors as it will contribute to
making Adelaide and South Australia even more attractive places
to visit for pleasure and for business.
Employment: 820 new jobs during the construction phase of the project and a
10% increase in employment opportunities within the Airport on
completion.
Project
timing:
November, 2003 Construction commenced
2005 Interior fitout commences
Late 2005 Commercial operations commence
UPDATED: May, 2004

Fabian
June 1st, 2004, 05:17 AM
After saying in 2003 that Adelaide's Airport was "not all that impressive" and deserved a thumbs down, this new Airport will be getting a massive thumbs up by me when it's done. The renderings on the last page make the airport look very world class, and have to admit it look's just as good as Sydney's terminals.

Will
June 3rd, 2004, 11:23 AM
Adder-Laid thank you for the photos, I didn't realise the project had progressed so far so quickly. I want to go down there and check it out, because the webcam isn't very good.

Adder-Laid
June 3rd, 2004, 11:56 AM
tip: there's a backstreet in Brooklyn park which sits right underneath the flight path 200m from the runway... it's an excellent vantage point for seeing planes right over ya head, plus the new terminal looks huge from there... pity my camera was cheap and has no optical zoom :P

KrYpNoTiC
June 14th, 2004, 02:27 PM
Nice to see the new terminal take shape. Does anyone know whats going to happen to the old domestic terminal plus how will the new terminal be used. Like 4 gates for international, 6 for qantas and 4 for virgin?

Adder-Laid
June 14th, 2004, 02:32 PM
I believe that the gates will be divided into regional at the far end closest to the current terminal, then qantas, international in the middle, and virgin at the other end... not sure how many will be allocated to each...

As for the old terminal, I think they're still deciding what to do. Whether they use it for more freight operations, or regional operations or whatever remains to be seen...

pikey
June 23rd, 2004, 11:16 PM
Me thinks the old terminal is going. I was at the airport yesterday and a bulldozer and a piler were in action at the other end of the international terminal. By the way, the new terminal is friggin huuuuge! I hadn't seen it close up, bloody hell she's big!

kota16
June 24th, 2004, 05:10 AM
My thinking is that they would knock down the 'add on' which blocks the view from the coffee shop of current international terminal. It was put up for Virgin when they first started, and now they are relocated to where Ansett used to be. This building could have many uses.

Adder-Laid
June 24th, 2004, 10:58 AM
Me thinks the old terminal is going. I was at the airport yesterday and a bulldozer and a piler were in action at the other end of the international terminal. By the way, the new terminal is friggin huuuuge! I hadn't seen it close up, bloody hell she's big!
Sorry, I wasn't clear... the international terminal will be going on completion of the new terminal as far as I'm aware... the current domestic cardboard box will remain, I suspect...

As for the piler, that's actually for the new terminal, which still isn't at full length, as it will continue on over the apron in front of the current international terminal... in other words, if you think it's big, now - just wait until you see the full length! ;)

Adelarch
July 1st, 2004, 01:22 AM
Is that the white cladding I see appearing? Nice and sharp

http://www.aal.com.au/future/cam/pic01c8.jpg

Adder-Laid
July 1st, 2004, 01:04 PM
Cladding already? Nice... they haven't even finished putting up all the steel framework yet... They've still yet to erect the bit that'll be in front of the current int'l terminal :)

SA BOY
July 18th, 2004, 11:56 AM
will it ready for me in December when I got to go to Adeliade to see my in-laws?

SA BOY
July 18th, 2004, 11:59 AM
ahhh read the first few threads so obviously it wont, pity cos i hate the current terminal. How rude to expect you to walk from the plane to the terminal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Adder-Laid
July 19th, 2004, 10:35 AM
The New terminal's exterior should almost be complete by then... but yeah, fitout is going to take a loooong time, as it's a huge mother f....r!

Adder-Laid
July 20th, 2004, 06:09 PM
Here's a photo from about 2 weeks ago...

This should give you an extremely bad approximation of how big this is actually going to be! ;)

http://www.ashby.id.au/warren/gallery/albums/airport/DSC01038.jpg

If you've driven past it, as it stands at the moment, and thought to yourself "f$%^ that's a large f$%^#$ of a building", then just wait till it's at full length! It's only 2/3 long at the moment, as illustrated above by my extremely sophisticated diagram...

Adelarch
July 21st, 2004, 12:29 AM
Top shot mate. That really is big :)

AdelaideSkytraveller
July 22nd, 2004, 04:53 AM
Hi anyone tell me why their are no decent external renderings of the new Adelaide Airport Terminal on the internet. If one searches other airports you
can see what they are planning. Why is the exterior design of the new Adelaide Airport Terminal so secretive that the AAL will not divulge an artist impression of what it will look like once complete? If one goes to the Hassell architect website they dont even mention that it is one of their projects yet they are the known planner? Why cant people from Adelaide see how it will look once it is built. You can see other airports designs/proposals but you cant see your own airports design. Now that stinks!!!!

Adelarch
July 22nd, 2004, 09:51 AM
This is the only external render I've come across:

http://www.hansenyuncken.com.au/files/Adel-AirportNew-Terminal.jpg

SA BOY
July 22nd, 2004, 10:58 AM
that still shows the old domestic terminal. Will that still be used- small regional carriers?
And whats with the cargo area, its stuck out in no mans land now

Adder-Laid
July 22nd, 2004, 12:59 PM
I've been looking for renderings for a while too, and have found nothing... I might have to physically go in to the AAL offices and ask? :P

KIWIKAAS
July 24th, 2004, 01:24 AM
This is the only external render I've come across:

http://www.hansenyuncken.com.au/files/Adel-AirportNew-Terminal.jpg

Notice how the regional turbo-props squeeze onto an apron behind the main terminal concourse.

They have updated the rendering though with Virgin Blue aircraft now parked at the stands instead of Ansett.

AdelaideSkytraveller
July 26th, 2004, 02:39 AM
That is the only renderning i have seen too!!! however it is old and the design does not depict the current shape of the terminal (for example the qantas lounge etc). What i was hoping for was a render of the new design both from the front and from
the back(ie tarmac, aerobridges).

As i mentioned in my previous reply one can find many renderings of other airports both underconstruction and planned? but not of Adelaide why such secrecy???
Are the plans not fixed? or is it work in motion and hence they dont want to provide renderings which may provide a false impression?

Cornholio
July 27th, 2004, 01:56 AM
I just flew in and out of Adelaide on the weekend. WOW! This is going to be huge, and after using Tullamarine with its numerous concessions and other shops, Adelaide is in for something really special when this monster opens.

Adder-Laid
July 27th, 2004, 05:37 PM
Flew in tonight, and the second level of the southern wing is going up now :)

Adder-Laid
July 28th, 2004, 04:35 PM
Bravo to the last 3 paragraphs of this article - http://www.theadvertiser.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5936,10268973%255E2682,00.html

Adder-Laid
July 29th, 2004, 03:20 PM
Spot the page join - fear my PS7 cloning skills!

Scanned from a brochure with little extra info, and no new renders... it is however a bit bigger than the one on the hy website...
http://users.bigpond.net.au/gpexa/aap/airport.jpg

A closer view of the terminal itself...
http://users.bigpond.net.au/gpexa/aap/terminal.jpg

I'd say the only thing close to correct in this render is the actual building... what is happening with all the existing buildings and roadways is anyones guess :P

Adder-Laid
July 29th, 2004, 03:22 PM
actually, at closer inspection this is the third version of this building I've seen released as "the one being built" :P It varies slightly from the one a few posts prior from the hansenyunken site, and also differs from the one on the AAL site :P

AdelaideSkytraveller
July 30th, 2004, 01:04 AM
Thanks for the render!!!

It gives a better indication of what it will look like but i dont think the roof
will look that way. It currently looks like it will be rounder, (however i dont know where they are planning on putting that mezzanine level. I believe the
AAL has made a good attempt at developing a master plan that shows promise. However i do not like the idea of having an IKEA store on the
Sir Donald Bradman Drive, Airport Road Corner that location would be more
ideal for a future Hotel. The IKEA store could be build close by though still on Airport Land.

Just hope that once the terminal is finished that we will start getting more direct international flights from Adelaide as its a drag having to go to Melbourne or Sydney when you actually want to go to Europe which is the other way. Maybe they need to think about having less Melbourne to Adelaide Domestic Flights etc and replace these with International Flights
stopping at both cities.

Cheers

Aussie Steve
July 30th, 2004, 01:26 AM
Sorry if I sound blond, but what is that building (with planes) at the bottom left of this pic below? Is that the old airport and will it be retained?
http://users.bigpond.net.au/gpexa/aap/airport.jpg

AdelaideSkytraveller
July 30th, 2004, 06:21 AM
That building in the bottom left is the current and soon to be
old domestic terminal. The building will not be demolished
it is most likely to house other aviation activities. My
thoughts are that as Adelaide Airport gets busier in the
next couple of years the current (old) domestic terminal
will most likely be used for regional flights (i.e port lincoln,
whyalla, mt gambier, kingscote, pt augusta, ceduna, etc etc).

The new terminal is being built with a modular design with
scope for later expansion. I believe that in the future their
will be a multi-storey carpark in front of the new terminal
and that the terminal will be expanded. Hopefully when they
expand the new terminal they will have the foresight to
relocate the plane in the Vicker's Vimy memorial into the
new terminal.

As can be seen by the render. Adelaide's new terminal will
have the best views of any Australian Airport and possibly
the world. As you will be able to see the hills and the city
cbd from the departure lounge.

Cheers

Adder-Laid
July 30th, 2004, 09:33 AM
I think the old terminal will end up becoming freight or something similar... The regional flights will be located from the back of the new terminal - notice the apron with 3 fokkers (I love saying that) sitting on it?

I think their idea is that they're trying to get everything under the one roof to make flights transfers 10x easier....

AdelaideSkytraveller
August 2nd, 2004, 02:01 AM
Adder-Laid

I agree the regional will be in the new Terminal. However as i stated in my reply i believe that once the new Terminal gets busy in several years time we may see regional actually get shifter out of the new Terminal and into the current Domestic. By that time the old Domestic may have had some minor
upgrades. My thoughts are based on what i read from the AAL Masterplan which also talked about possibly expanding the new Terminal south with the need to move one or more of the current freight buildings in the botton right corner. They also talk about possibly having parallel runways and maybe a new control tower but that will all be a long way of possibly 20 years.

But within 5-10 years i believe Adelaide Airport will have a multi-storey carpark. Possibly expand south and regional flights will be moved back to the old Domestic. By then we should have more interstate connections and more direct overseas flights. Hopefully the Airport will also have a multi-storey hotel too.

Adder-Laid
August 2nd, 2004, 06:44 AM
I agree... :)

The parallel runway wouldn't be too hard to achieve, except a bridge may have to be built over Tapleys hill rd, and that Servo is sitting on the land needed for that 2nd long runway (which AAL owns)...

Shuzstar
August 2nd, 2004, 07:41 AM
airport render looks cool, havent seen it in a while so ill head own soon and tellya what i think

Adder-Laid
August 3rd, 2004, 04:06 PM
airport render looks cool, havent seen it in a while so ill head own soon and tellya what i think
It won't be tall enough for you...

Adelarch
August 4th, 2004, 09:34 AM
can't get enough of that cladding...

http://www.aal.com.au/future/cam/pic0280.jpg

jacobsian
August 4th, 2004, 09:43 AM
It won't be tall enough for you...

We need skyscrapers in airports!

Adelarch
August 5th, 2004, 11:53 AM
Ah, now there's a better picture

http://www.aal.com.au/future/cam/pic0288.jpg

Adder-Laid
August 5th, 2004, 04:34 PM
Drove past it today (thank f%$k for that new roundabout - making a quick gork easier).... looking good... I still can't get over the length of it... Steel pylons have been erected at the incomplete end, and fark that'd be one hell of a walk to the other end!

Think 2 and a half Eureka's fallen over placed lengthwise, and that's our new terminal!!!

Shuzstar
August 6th, 2004, 08:38 AM
Thats as long as a whole WTC1 falling over on its side during 9/11. Shit that is a long long walk. WTC1 is the building with the tower mast on top, that got destroyed, but I assume you know all the facts.

Adder-Laid
August 6th, 2004, 09:59 AM
Nope, even longer than WTC1... 750m... :) WTC1 was about 400m or just over...

Will
August 6th, 2004, 11:07 AM
There are plans for an 'international hotel' for the corner of Sir Donald Bradman Boulevard and the road that leads into the airport. Unfortunately there is not much more info at the moment.

OBman
August 9th, 2004, 04:46 PM
HEHEhh
very happy for the new terminal extention
I saw the 1:500 model.. looks great

LOL.... the existing one was so depressing when i first came to adelaide..

Adelarch
August 18th, 2004, 10:05 AM
Geez this thing's getting whacked up quickly - starting to get a sense of what it's going to look like now :)

http://www.aal.com.au/future/cam/pic02d8.jpg

AtD
August 18th, 2004, 10:19 AM
What is the camera actually fixed on to?

BradJC
August 18th, 2004, 11:05 AM
The water tower.
You can see its shadow cast on the ground.

Adder-Laid
August 18th, 2004, 04:06 PM
And what's even more pleasing is that not even half of the new Terminal fits into the webcam image ;)

KrYpNoTiC
August 30th, 2004, 02:02 PM
Adelaide-Auckland direct with Qantas starts November or December. Good start for Adelaide

KrYpNoTiC
August 30th, 2004, 03:30 PM
Good site about new terminal with a few pics: http://www.airport-technology.com/projects/adelaide/index.html

Adder-Laid
August 30th, 2004, 04:24 PM
I whipped up a little something.... 800kB (http://users.bigpond.net.au/gpexa/airport.avi)

Can't wait till it's finished, then this little snippet will look better... I also had trouble finding all of the webcam images on their server... they've had some weird sequencing in their naming of files... eh, it still looks ok i s'pose....

pikey
August 31st, 2004, 12:02 AM
Top effort Adder!!

Adelarch
August 31st, 2004, 09:36 AM
Hey great idea! :)

looks like the main entry area to the far left will be the next part of the building to get 'whitewashed'

AdelaideSkytraveller
September 10th, 2004, 01:56 AM
I would like to get an upclose image of the airport so we can see the
front entrance part. I drove past the airport this morning and it looks huge, cant wait for it to finish. Imagine how it will look from planes docked at
the airbridges, very very long and cool.

Any my post was about the question of where is the whitewash, because
as i drove past and had a very close inspection what previously seemed
to be whitewashed cladding now has very light blue plastic covering it.
It also looked as if this light blue plastic was covering not gladding but glass, but i may be wrong. Anyhow i have notice that when viewing the webcam progress on the aal site sometimes the new terminal appears white and
sometimes a very very pale light blue. It may be that the plastic covering
is playing tricks on us.

Anyway its gone look great once it is finished. Would be nice if someone could take some happy snaps of its current progress as the aal webcam ones are pretty ordinary and only show one angle.

Cheers

Blend
September 10th, 2004, 06:48 AM
This should do good for adelaides international image, as well as national. An airport is very important for tourists... if u hop off in a crappy little airport u dont get a good impression. So congrats!

looks cool and big

Adder-Laid
September 11th, 2004, 10:45 AM
I took some snaps about 2 weeks ago, but I'll see if I can get down there sometime this weekend...

Blend - it is BIIIG... as big a terminal as Tulla methinks...

RedLadar
September 13th, 2004, 08:16 AM
I have some great aerial shots of the site taken from a helicopter last week, but can't place any attachments here - can anyone assist? I'm happy to email them to someone for them to post if need be.

RedLadar
September 13th, 2004, 08:17 AM
There is a plastic film over the cladding to protect it from damage.

Pants
September 13th, 2004, 10:14 AM
There is a plastic film over the cladding to protect it from damage.

Thanks for mentioning that mate.

I've been meaning to for a while.

I thought they were going with a fairly stark white until I noticed it was plastic. Am now curious as to what's under the wraps.

Exciting development either way.

Adder-Laid
September 13th, 2004, 12:10 PM
RedLadar - mail them to me and I'll get them up

warren nospam @ nissanexa.com
(remove the spaces and "nospam") ;)

jacobsian
September 14th, 2004, 02:54 AM
Here's RedLadar's pics. They are sensational.

http://smicik.customer.netspace.net.au/aa1.jpg

http://smicik.customer.netspace.net.au/aa2.jpg

http://smicik.customer.netspace.net.au/aa3.jpg

http://smicik.customer.netspace.net.au/aa4.jpg

Cornholio
September 14th, 2004, 03:51 AM
Wow....just wow!

RedLadar, you are a dead set legend. I am so impressed by the new terminal, can't wait until she's up and running.

So whats the G-O with the old international terminal? Do they get 80% of the new terminal up and running, move everything (Domestic and International) into it, and then knock old betsy down and connect the two parts of the new terminal together.

Adder-Laid
September 14th, 2004, 11:26 AM
wow!

Cheers for those! It really gives a different perspective... Can't wait to see how long it looks once the North East End is fully built :)

Adelarch
September 14th, 2004, 01:32 PM
Wow, top shots RedLadar! Looking superb (how did you wrangle a helicopter ride anway?)
At the risk of being annoying, don't suppose you got any including the city and hills by any chance? :)

Adder-Laid
September 14th, 2004, 04:18 PM
It's almost taken it's full shape now...

http://users.bigpond.net.au/gpexa/compare.jpg

Adelarch
September 15th, 2004, 03:21 AM
Are they massive flagpoles alongside the air bridges? they look fantastic

AdelaideSkytraveller
September 16th, 2004, 01:58 AM
I agree the flagpoles would look fantastic, cant wait for the airport
to be completed. RedLadar your a legend, would it be possible for
you to get another set of photos once the external building is
complete and the airbridges have been attached?

Would like to see how it looks at dusk or night with the lights on
once complete!!! I also hope that have a good looking
Adelaide International Airport neon sign above the center of
the terminal from the airbridge side... Would look spectacular dont
you think?

tayser
September 16th, 2004, 12:38 PM
I think they're light towers next to the airbridges.

looking very schmick!

Will
September 17th, 2004, 04:48 AM
Looking at the terminal from the air definately gives you a better perspective at the scale of the building. Looking at it from ground level does not allow you to appreaciate the size of the new airport. This is definately an airport to be proud of, and a leap forward for Adelaide.

kota16
September 17th, 2004, 05:34 AM
If Simon Birmingham is elected as member for Hindmarsh Federal seat, funding will be made for two new entrances to airport, one an extension of Morphett Rd and another an extension from Richmond Rd which will them connect to other roads around to the new Terminal.

Adder-Laid
September 17th, 2004, 11:40 AM
If Simon Birmingham is elected as member for Hindmarsh Federal seat, funding will be made for two new entrances to airport, one an extension of Morphett Rd and another an extension from Richmond Rd which will them connect to other roads around to the new Terminal.
Tunnels? Runway Bridges?

I could see a need for a Morphett Rd entrance, as it would make the airport far more accesible to "Southies"... I don't think there'd be much of an advantage having a Richmond Rd entrance as coming from the city is already quite accessible via Sir Donald Bradman drv...

Also, there's the issue of Morphett Rd and the Terminals having a nice fat runway between them... Tunnel? Or bypass? Bypass would be stupid because there's no point as it'd almost be just as quick using Tapleys Hill Rd... :P

Either way... this is all silly...

Forget road extensions and entrances, we need a Tram or some form of Light rail from Victoria Square to the Beach straight down Sir Donald Bradman Drv, with a branching line into the airport... This is needed FAR MORE than any new roadway...

kota16
September 17th, 2004, 05:03 PM
I agree about a light rail system to the airport. But on the issue of the entrances/exits from the airport there requires to be more than one.This is part of the planning by AAL and I think the road would be close to the fence inside the airport. The entrance off Richmond Rd would save delivery trucks having to go further from Marion Rd. It does require more than one entrance.

Adder-Laid
September 18th, 2004, 06:01 AM
But if they put an entrance from Richmond Rd, it would need to still go around the Morth East end of the Runway, which would be no time saving from having gone along Marion Rd and SDB Drv anyways...

I'm just saying it would be pointless without a tunnel under the runways direct to the terminals... and even then, the money could be much better spent elsewhere... especially when most Truck deliveries in the airport precinct aren't actually to the terminals themselves, but to Export park.

AdelaideSkytraveller
September 20th, 2004, 01:40 AM
I agree with Adder-Laid in that the Airport would be better served
by light rail in fact i have written to the member for Morphett
Mr Duncan McFetridge, the Transport Department and a few others
about such a service.

Unlike Brisbane and Sydneys Heavy Rail Links from the Airport
to the City. Adelaide should adopt a light rail version that
travels from the Airport down Sir Donald Bradman Drive,
stopping close to the Keswick Train Terminal,
past the Market and the soon to be built Adelaide Intrastate
and Interstate Bus Terminal. Then down King William Street
and then down North Terrace past the Universities and
Hospital then up the Parade to Norwood.

This tram would be used by locals living along the route
and not just Airport patrons and hence would ensure
the viability of such a route and service.

The Glenelg Tram Line should be extended down King
William Street up O'Connell Street to the end of North
Adelaide if not up to Prospect via Prospect Road.

Trams should hence make a comeback to Adelaide's
Public Transport System and this new line and the
extension to the Glenelg line would be a good start.

kota16
September 20th, 2004, 02:30 AM
Even to get the tramline extended up King William Street (past Rundle Mall) and past the Railway Station, Casino, Convention Centre and University of SA which is about 2 lilometres, and could replace the B-Line Bus, has been mooted for the last 10 years. It has been widely discussed on talk back radio and in the media, yet still no promise from either a Liberal or Labor state government. And this is just one small first step. Is it any wonder that other Australians scoff at Adelaide bureaucrats who seem to be the reason that nothing gets done. Recently the SA Treasury recieved $232million from poker machines in SA pubs, so after paying for the new trams and Glenelg line upgrade, it would be in order to at least have it going to North Tce which would be in vicinity of around $10m cost.

Wezza
September 21st, 2004, 10:24 AM
No offence, but it's looking rather ugly? Sort of like a big tin shed! Maybe it's just cos it's still U/C. It may look better once finished. Just doesn't look like it has enough glass or something.

jacobsian
September 21st, 2004, 10:30 AM
No offence, but it's looking rather ugly? Sort of like a big tin shed! Maybe it's just cos it's still U/C. It may look better once finished. Just doesn't look like it has enough glass or something.

Q1. :)

Wezza
September 21st, 2004, 12:17 PM
Um......Q1 what? :?

Arunava
September 21st, 2004, 01:59 PM
No offence, but it's looking rather ugly? Sort of like a big tin shed! Maybe it's just cos it's still U/C. It may look better once finished. Just doesn't look like it has enough glass or something.
It's looking like a generic airport terminal, which is all it needs to be. Not many airports (esp. non-Asian) make architectural statements with their airport terminals.

Pants
September 22nd, 2004, 02:24 AM
Agree with Wezza, would like to have seen more glass on the western facade.

The eastern facade facing the tarmac, is of course mostly glass, but they could have gone a bit further with the entrace.

Wezza
September 22nd, 2004, 12:12 PM
Yeah it sort of looks like an overgrown Townsville Terminal, from the airside, plenty of glass and looks pretty good, but from the entrance looks pretty ordinary!! Oh well, it's gotta be better than the old terminal(s) currently in use, i have only been to Adelaide once, back in '94 and even back then i couldn't believe how crap the terminal was.

AdelaideSkytraveller
September 23rd, 2004, 01:42 AM
The terminal aint finished yet and you havent seen it in person
yet your making judgement. The entry will be all glassed as
will the airside of the terminal. The other areas of the terminal
facing west are supposed to have cladding however to myself
on closer inspection it seemed to be glass covered with
protective plastic so we will have to wait and see. However
most of this area is offices and stores etc so you wouldnt want
them facing into the hot sun especially in Adelaide's hot summers
so hence too much glass on the entrance side would not be
too clever from a design and energy efficiency point of view.

However Adelaide once complete will have the most upto date
glass sided airbridges and the best view from any terminal in
Australia. The view of the city and hills will be amazing...

jacobsian
September 23rd, 2004, 03:12 AM
Yeah it sort of looks like an overgrown Townsville Terminal, from the airside, plenty of glass and looks pretty good, but from the entrance looks pretty ordinary!! Oh well, it's gotta be better than the old terminal(s) currently in use, i have only been to Adelaide once, back in '94 and even back then i couldn't believe how crap the terminal was.

The thought of us building a new terminal must scare the crap out of you. There's only a year of construction left, quick, get in the bagging while you still can before the opprtunity is lost forever!

Oh wait, the new terminal is crap. Well, that's convenient.

Cornholio
September 23rd, 2004, 04:02 AM
The thought of us building a new terminal must scare the crap out of you. There's only a year of construction left, quick, get in the bagging while you still can before the opprtunity is lost forever!

Oh wait, the new terminal is crap. Well, that's convenient.

Agreed, some clowns never miss an opportunity to sink the boot into Adelaide. Try looking in your own redneck back yard before having a go.

AdelaideSkytraveller
September 23rd, 2004, 08:48 AM
Hahahaha their not putting the boot-in their just jealous
that once the new terminal is finished our Airport will
be much better than theirs...

Currently they are happy that our Airport is shittier than
theirs, however they know times are changing...

They also know it is a good and energy efficient design
thats why they are suggesting such stupid ideas as
having the western side all in glass.... that way it
would get ultra hot in summer afternoons.

Like i said in a previous post once finished the new terminal
may not be Australia's Largest but it certainly will be
the best in terms of efficiency and view from the terminal.

Wezza
September 23rd, 2004, 10:13 AM
Just verifying something here, i'm not saying that the new terminal is crap!! In fact i'm sure it will be great once finished, i just think they could've done a bit better job on the design of the outside. And cornholio, i suggest you wake up to yourself before you go calling people names and carrying on like a child. I didn't take a dig at anyone in here personally at all and if anyone thinks that, they're wrong. I was just voicing my opinion, as you do in this free world. Just on another note, while i didn't think much of the airport when i went to Adelaide, i actually loved the city and have told anyone whoever asks me about it that it's a lovely place to visit. I'm sorry if this is such a touchy subjuect for some people.

P.S. Adelaideskytraveller, If you have ever been to the Brisbane International terminal, you would have noticed how much glass is in that terminal, and let me tell you, it can get pretty damn hot in Brisbane, but it hasn't affected the terminal temperature on the inside.

Adder-Laid
September 23rd, 2004, 10:33 AM
The "western side" is actually facing West North West, which is where the sun shines on us the majority of the year... so yeah, as stated, Glass would be a big no-no...

And honestly, I reckon it'll be on par with other Australian airports in terms of looks...

It will be the most efficient terminal in Australia on completion, so I'm happy with that :)

TooFar
September 23rd, 2004, 11:03 PM
In all fairness to Wezza, the building looks are a little, mmm, how should I say, underwhelming.

When I saw the latest pics, I did not jump out of my seat with enthusiasm, but restrained from passing comment as I know (first hand) how sensitive Adelaidiens can be to criticism.

So I will not say anything more until I (hopefully) arrive at the new terminal next year and experience the place first hand.

kota16
September 24th, 2004, 01:59 AM
TooFar you had better not arrive back in Adelaide until November 2005, otherwise you will be too early to use the airport. I am astonished at the critics here, the terminal is merely a worksite at present. When completed it will like the latest digital tv, state of the art widescreen, with new attractive landscaping. Its location is just 5 km from the Adelaide GPO.

Cornholio
September 24th, 2004, 02:00 AM
Yeah, well fair enough, I might have gone over the top. But after a lifetime of having to listen to uneducated (in the ways of the world) di(kheads rake Adelaide over the coals, the only reason being that we have a terminal where people have to *shock horror* walk from their plane across the tarmac (well, have you been to half the airports in Europe?), surely you can understand my (and others) sensitivity to this issue. This airport terminal is a great thing, and will be only the second major airport in Australia to combine the Domestic and International terminals in the one building. Now if you've travelled as much as I have, you'll realise what a great thing this is.

So the outside doesn't have the pazazz of Charles de Galle (whoops, who paid the engineers there!) or Changi or Honkers, we are just glad to finally be getting a state of the art terminal. And yes, north facing glass for a building that is supposed to be comfortable, economically and energy efficient (ie no huge ac units) is a no-no.

DrDan
September 24th, 2004, 05:07 AM
Airport is coming along nicely.
A stylish and simple design.

Light rail to the airport isn't really necessary given that Adelaide City is so close (esp. compared to Melbourne)

BradJC
September 24th, 2004, 05:19 AM
The aerial shots of the terminal make it look less impressive.
Looking at it from ground level is something else. :)

Walking across tarmac is not such a big deal. Most aircraft load passengers from the front and rear. So even if an airport has airbridges, some require passengers walk down stairs, out slightly to the tarmac, and up the back stairs to the aircraft. This enables quicker passenger loading. I know they have this process at Brisbane Airport. If your seats are closer to the front of the craft, you use airbrige. If not, you load from the back.

Wezza
September 27th, 2004, 10:15 AM
I'd just like to say, i'm sorry if my comments upset anyone in here, there was no offence meant to Adelaide or it's people. I just thought from the shots that were posted made the entrance to the terminal made it look a bit bland. I will reserve my final judgement for when the terminal is complete. I'm sure it's going to be a great thing for Adelaide.

Adder-Laid
September 27th, 2004, 10:35 AM
I think the entrance will resemble that of most Australian domestic terminals - concrete, and lots of it! :P

AG
September 30th, 2004, 03:46 AM
Wanted: Retailers for new terminal
By Real Estate Editor LOUISE TRECASSI
30sep04
AN international search has begun to attract retailers to Adelaide Airport's new $260 million terminal.

Adelaide Airport Ltd is inviting expressions of interest for 23 retail tenancies to be created in the terminal.

The shops range from fashion to gifts, souvenirs, confectionery, cosmetic/skin care, newsagencies, currency exchange, ATMs and other specialty retail stores.

The 3400sq m retail precinct is double the size of the shopping area in the existing domestic terminal and will be located beyond the security checkpoint. Shop sizes range up to 222sq m, with some offering Hills views.

AAL corporate affairs manager John McArdle said he was hopeful South Australian retailers would seize the opportunity to be a part of the new airport.

"We want to attract retailers that are synonymous with the state so that the experience of arriving or leaving South Australia starts and ends at the airport," he said.

"But it is also an international search. We want the world's best for SA."

Mr McArdle said the new terminal would service regional, domestic and international travellers from the one building. He said this would offer a unique opportunity for retailers to reach all airport users. "More than 3000 passengers will be able to pass through the terminal every hour, so this is a great venue for South Australian retailers, and national and overseas brands," he said.

Expressions of interest close on October 29.

The terminal is expected to open in October next year and will accommodate up to 27 aircraft simultaneously.

The project will create 820 jobs during construction and a 10 per cent increase in employment opportunities within the airport once it opens.

Wezza
September 30th, 2004, 10:38 AM
So can they change the amount of gates for the international part of the terminal on demand? If so, how do they go about separating the domestic passengers from the international passengers? Or will the domestic departures & arrivals be on a different level to the international ones?

NZer
September 30th, 2004, 12:21 PM
Wow,I should come into the SA section more often,there's more going on than I thought!!

And what a fantastic new terminal!! thanks RedLadar/Yob for taking/posting them pics.
That terminal kinda reminds me of Auckland intl,even though it's a different design......

Shuzstar
October 1st, 2004, 02:16 PM
domestic bottom, international top. cos the skywalks are higher when entering a big plane like singapore airlines which are jumbos. however i think the internationl take one end of the top level and jumbo domestic take up the rest, i could be wrong, but its from what ive heard.

Adder-Laid
October 2nd, 2004, 01:21 PM
Yup, you're slightly off... Arrivals will be lower level, and the departures upper level. Doesn't matter whether int'l or domestic.

I think they'll have 3 for international at most, as we have very few international flights here. I don't think they'll change it on demand, as moving customs areas etc around would be a royal pain...

On top of this, the aerobridges will attach to the building half way up between the arrivals and departures levels so that each gate can be used for both easily, and I'm assuming the bridges will be able to be raised to a slightly higher level for 767's and 777's etc. We rarely see Jumbo 747's, and I'd doubt we'll ever see an A380 here for many years, so changing their height drastically probably won't be an issue...

Wezza
October 5th, 2004, 10:47 AM
Most aerobridges can be raised or lowered quite a large range. The bridges at Brisbane International terminal can accomodate anything from a Fokker F100 (maybe even smaller?) up to B747. (Or A380 when they are in service)

KrYpNoTiC
October 5th, 2004, 12:28 PM
Does anyone know what full pax capacity will be with the new terminal??