Looking at diagrams of the Rialto and Q1 the OBSERVATION DECK levels look very close, I imagine Q1 should be higher especially seeing the building rates as taller than the 92 level Eureka.

Surely it would be Eureka as the top floor level is way higher. I'm pretty sure the Vision Ob deck level will be only a couple of metres shorter than Q1's

He said asked Rialto or Q1, not Eureka or Q1.

Q1 230m 77-78th floors
Rialto 234m 55th floor
Eureka 285m 88th floor


Wikipedia and q1.com.au

^^ Not trying to be picky, but I recall the upper level of Q1 deck is higher than Rialto,so the answer is Q1 deck is higher than Rialto - just. But Eureka is higher again. Not sure where Vision in Brisbane or Centrepoint in Sydney fit into the pecking order.

interesting this is.

Not sure if it makes it higher than Rialtos (which is great, I especially love the outside bits), but Q1's ob deck is on 2 levels.

Has the Eureka ob deck opened yet? I thought it was meant to in December, but no one has posted any pictures from there yet.

Not sure if it makes it higher than Rialtos (which is great, I especially love the outside bits), but Q1's ob deck is on 2 levels.

Has the Eureka ob deck opened yet? I thought it was meant to in December, but no one has posted any pictures from there yet.

No it hasn't, still another month away apparently.

Um, doesn't that Grand Canyon think make everything else somewhat insignificant.

^^ Not trying to be picky, but I recall the upper level of Q1 deck is higher than Rialto,so the answer is Q1 deck is higher than Rialto - just.

The height for Q1 is for level 77. Neither wikipedia or q1.com.au has the height for 78th floor. If you have been there you might be able to estimate the height from the 77th floor.

^lev78 = 235m. ive quoted this many times.
im sure ive done many threads on this? please DONT go to wikpedia for stats. most of time there wrong.
anyway just ask moi. i have plans for most bldgs.RLs get websites confusing.
heights as follows- sea level heights in ( ).

the twin level observation levels on Q1 are -
lev77 = 230m and lev78 = 235m (RL241m)
Rialtos lev55 ob deck = 234m (RL236m)
fyi Eurekas lev88 ob deck is 282m.(RL 285m)
Sydney towers highest indoor deck is 252m and Skywalk outdoor= 260m.(RL280m)

im currently drawing up a tallest ob deck in southern hem diagram just to show how ob decks compare. il post it soon.
cheers

Culwulla, looking forward to your diagram...I know the Eureka will easily be the highest..it's just that our 'old' Rialto still rates as the highest....or at least so close to Q1. Even the Sydney Tower may not be much higher than the Rialto??? Maybe the second level to be added to Q1 is so it can claim a higher level than Rialto....but with the Eureka about to open..why bother?

Say what?

yes Eureka will have highest ob deck by far with lev88 being 282m and function room being 285m. Q1 highest public level is lev78/235m but a "climb ride" is before council for approval where you basically don overalls and walk up the fin and down again. its a new gimmicy climb.i think it will be up the 265m glassed section? its something about being out in the open air and walking up and down just like BridgeClimb, . Not only has Sydney tower done the same thing but Skytower in Auckland have done it with the mast climb and also the 200m bungee jump!
This is the reason wby the 54m mast was planned for top Eurek but maybe they have dumped that idea and just gone for a cheaper option with the "cube' rise which is part of lev88 observation?
but having said ALL that - observation platforms are about being relative to the city.
The 286m Caste Hill lookout at Townsville is a great lookout which is higher then Eureka but is man-made.



isnt god just great at giving free access to views?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/97/Townsville_from_castle_hill_lookout_near_sunset.jpg/800px-Townsville_from_castle_hill_lookout_near_sunset.jpg
Uluru in NT is 348m high,

http://web.aanet.com.au/welcomecreek/pictures/ulurucloud.jpg
even tassie has a natural high lookout
Tassies NUT in Stanley has a rock outcrop like Ayers Rock and its 143m high. You get access by cable chair ride!!!

http://www.tasmanianphotography.com.au/library/albums/userpics/10001/nut-02.jpg
how good would this ride be?? higher then harbour bridge in a chair!

http://www.killynaught.com.au/images/nutChairLiftatStanley.jpg


its all good.

Hopefully Daniel Grollo realised just how ridiculous Eureka looked with the mast and it wasn't worth compromising the design for a bit more height.

I agree... That would have been a horrible, terrible mistake.

Heee, looking at the pic of the chair lift..if Rialto and Eureka had a chair ride between the two....hmmm!

well heres a little diagram ive been working on. shows you most ob decks/restaurants in australia and southern hemisphere.
ive put cut off point at 135m.
am i missing any?

http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/7433/obdeckssouthhemgp0.jpg

the 234m Sentech tower in Jburg Suburbia-Brixton.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/123/354812577_20fb70519c_o.jpg

Well done Cull.

Damn I hope Vision in Brisbane moves it's Ob deck higher. It's ridiculous to have it 2/3 of the way up the building. There are stories that the upper penthouses planned haven't been selling, so maybe it could happen.

Great diagram Cul, untill you see them all togther it is hard to judge comparible height as surrounding skylines can make some look taller or shorter than they really are.

Great diagram, i have to say its really good to see them all lined up, it really shows the differences between height, marketing spin and actual levels of the decks represented.

Poor old Skytower might be the tallest but they didn't quite catch Eureka, I guess their sole objective was to ensure superiority to Sydney tower's Ob levels? Sydney tower should extend their spire just past Skytowers to reclaim our title for tallest telecom tower. It doesn't look to difficult considering how stumpy it is.

^the Vertigo climb lookout on Skytower is actually exactly 300m above sea level, which is higher then eureka (RL285m) and skywalk (RL280m).

Great Diagram Cul, surprised Visions Ob Deck is only 200m above sea level.

Theres talk of the Santos House roof, being transformed to a outdoor observation deck. While it isnt very high, the views would be still stunning looking towards the hills, city buildings and the ocean. I hope it gets of the ground or even better still a building taller than Santos with a ob deck - but I think im dreaming there ;).

Though there are some great lookouts in Adelaide such as Mt Lofty Summit, Windy Point and various lookouts throughout the Eastern & Southern Suburbs.

Austcorp were going with premium apartments in mind, and therefore premium penthouses. This is why they've put the penthouses above the observation deck. Standing at a floor height of 200m, only the very top of Aurora, Empire Square and 480 Queen will get in your view, which will still be fantastic and worth the trip up!

^yes the planned Visions ob deck will be 200m above street or 204m above sea level. not much difference.same height as Riparians roof or slightly lower then Auroras.Its a shame its not 250m high but obvioulsy theres a reason.-being future penthouses.
having a observation deck on Adelaides probable all time tallest would be ideal.I think its planned for highest floor which is apprx 120m high.would make a motza$$.

Well its time Australia did something to knock NZ out of the running then...

I would like to see a CN style tower at Southbank.

I would like to see a CN style tower at Southbank.


YES!!! :)

Remember the tower with the rotating light at world expo 88 ? ( in Brisbane) How high was that ? its beam used to stike city buildings as as it swept around, so guess it wasn't that high.

Are you talking about the thing that caught fire? Stefan's Skyneedle?

http://www.stefan.com.au/history/images/skyneedle_relocation_crane2.jpg

Yeah, that looks like it...I didn't know it caught on fire..it was part of the Expo 88 wasn't it.....It was up near the rides..the Art gallery end? Sorry I'm not from Brisbane so it's hard to remember. Last time I went up there it was a park ? with a beach...southbank ???

It still exists, it was moved many years ago to Stefans headquarters just out of the city. Can Brisbanites confirm?

There were plans in the early 90s, for a observation tower and hotel complex at the Mt Lofty Summit but it was dropped for the current 1 level building. because I think critics said the hotel was to large and another reason.

I think a Observation Tower (about 250m high) would be perfect for that summit to house a restaurant, cafe with a 2 level deck with 360 degree views and the Mt Lofty CFS unit. With a chairlift running towards the Greenhill Recreation Park (edge of Burnside) or to Waterfall Gully. Either way it would go through Cleland Conservation Park and have a stop at Cleland Wildlife Park so visitors from the ob deck can have easy access at visiting the wildlife park. Something like that could become a great state icon and attraction - just wish someone had the balls to build something like that here.

Though it could affect the airspace, as Mt Lofty is already above 700m high. Also on Mt Lofty those current TV towers nearly didn't get built not because of NIMBYs but because aboriginals were claiming that the area was sacred land.

Build a 400m didgeridoo then.

what are the words that have been changed to ****** in Crawf's post?

Stefan's sky needle is still at his headquaters in West End, only a couple of blocks from the Expo 88 site (now Southbank).

Either Crawf is being very cryptic and a little saucy, or a *** is playing an ***** ****s Day gag on us all.

I know zoom photos make backgrounds look closer but the ***** I mean at Expo 88 site wouldn't have that mountain...hill behind??? But I imagine the ***** was relocated after Expo as explained.

It's the zoom, it's probably no more than 300 metres from where it was during Expo

I sure wish Perth could get something! The views sure would be great if Something was near the top of BankWest or Central Park.

what are the words that have been changed to ****** in Crawf's post?

***** and ******** mate, dam SSC :bash:

EDIT = T-o-w-e-r and B-u-i-l-d-i-n-g

Empire Square will have an observation area higher than Vision won't it? I know it has a restuarant/bar at the top that takes up the entire top levels.

J

I am going to Melbourne in July and I have been in contact with a Marketing & Promotions Manager of Red Rock Leisure Pty Ltd who must be leasing the Eureka deck. She said that the observation deck should be completed by May.

Empire Square will have an observation area higher than Vision won't it? I know it has a restuarant/bar at the top that takes up the entire top levels.

J
yes, forgot about Empire squares lev70 Skylounge at 204m.

http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/8931/skylounge2gn.jpg

Empire Square will have an observation area higher than Vision won't it? I know it has a restuarant/bar at the top that takes up the entire top levels.

J

Not 100% sure, but I thought someone said they shelved that idea. Hope not, because if there is going to be a bar that high I will be going there all the time.

well heres a little diagram ive been working on. shows you most ob decks/restaurants in australia and southern hemisphere.
ive put cut off point at 135m.
am i missing any?

http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/7433/obdeckssouthhemgp0.jpg

YIP, carlton Centre in Joburg has a 50f obs deck, building is 222m so its just below that

thanks

Sky Tower Vertigo climb.

Just a video.:cheers2:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=L0oi0orq07M
^^^^^^^^^^^^

edit to diagram
1. added cube ride to Eureka
2.changed Vision to green
3. added Carlton centre

http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/126/obdeckssouthhemqf5.jpg

G'day Calvin.... We've got the Bell Tower!! :nuts:

Can't complain about the views from Kings Park (and atop the DNA tower) and the canteen's views on the 8th Floor of Sir Charles Gairdner Hospital!

official website is up>
http://www.eurekaskydeck.com.au/index.asp

http://www.eurekaskydeck.com.au/cool-tower-facts.asp

In Perth, the St Martins Tower has a revolving restuarant at level 33 or about at about 135 meters :) which still can be used for observation, as long as you buy some food :D
http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=stmartinstower-perth-australia

^lev33 spins around at 123m or 400ft above grd. so wasnt high enough to include.

http://www.skyscraperpicture.com/perth22.jpg

i just cant believe some developer hasnt waved $$ in front of Central Parks Tower management to convert its top floor to an observation deck???
It would be a great deck and be such an attraction for the city.
the lev52 would be 195m above grd (RL210m) which is a great height to view city

http://www.skyscraperpicture.com/perth47.JPG

which observation deck has greatest area? Does anyone know Eurekas lev88 sqm? i have a plan somwhere.
Q1s quite large.

you can see it at night
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/223/482112449_93d14af77b_b.jpg

Cul, I imagine most Ob. Decks wouldn't be that easy to see at night as they would want to keep lighting low so views would be better from the decks...especially through glass !

Cul, is this a new higher Observation Platform for Sydney Tower so it can claim highest in Australia?? or even Southern hemisphere...at around 309m. it is higher than Q1 or Eurekas decks !!!!! They could have caged stair to it for a few at a time at an extra charge. It's not big enough for an internal stair is it?..like the 109th level at The Empire State building? http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/8044/474175099e09b75308ablarjz6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

^not sure if its an observation deck? or lookout? but it is a circular platform with railing around the spire. Obviously its not 309m. The brass knob lightning conductor is 309m. the base of rod is 305m (last steel part of tower). the NEW platform (4m dia) is 302m above grd.(RL320m). There is an internal ladder up the spire and external ladder.its big enough at 1.2m/4ft dia)
ill have to find out if its like a new "climb" like Vertigo on Aucklands tower.

the 260m high Skywalk prodruding over the turret.. (you can see people on it)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/147/431391349_15f90e3f45_b.jpg

Yeah, at 302 m. it would still claim highest observation level ! Just curious as the article you mentioned in yesterdays FR did use it as Sydneys highest viewing point.

You know, I would actually go up the tower again if they did turn that into a public viewing platform. At least it'd show they're thinking along the lines of keeping Sydney competitive in the race to be tallest (no matter how tenuous the hold on the title).

dan went up Eurekas lev88 ob deck today
http://www.melbournephotos.net.au/images/2007-05-12%20Melbourne%20-%20Eureka%20Skydeck/IMG_1529.jpg

the cube ride
http://www.melbournephotos.net.au/images/2007-05-12%20Melbourne%20-%20Eureka%20Skydeck/IMG_1565.jpg

the view
http://www.melbournephotos.net.au/images/2007-05-12%20Melbourne%20-%20Eureka%20Skydeck/IMG_1583.jpg

Tuesday is going to be an exciting time in Melbourne eh? Is there a time for the grand opening, media coverage or firworks perhaps? not low key I hope, afterall, apart from ski resorts, it would have to boast having the highest cafe in the Southern hemisphere surely?

360deg bar on lev3 ob deck in Sydney tower. only $14 admin

http://static.flickr.com/51/119293715_69067af86d_o.jpg

Q1> so open and spacious

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The Q1 Tower on the Gold Coast is one of Australia's great buildings....OK!!! ....but when I look at that pic looking south along the beach and the wording around the edge at the tourist's feet says 322.5m...what do you think the average visitor will think...They will say "hey look ! we are standing at 322.5m".......I know it doesn't quite say that...but you see what they subliminally want you to think...makes me want to have a chuck !

^yeah, but you ave to understand the average joe blow doesnt care if he is up 200m or 300m. or if he is told he is up 322.5m or 235m. I think its better if a diagram on a wall shows comparisons, but even these are drawn by idiots and have them all out of scale.i should stick one of mine on the wall and show them a more accurate diagram.
I informed sydney tower way back in late 80;s they had there heights wrong on the display boards. they indicated the ob deck was 270m above grd, but it was sea level. took them a few years to change. Ive told Eureka management they have there heights wrong also, . they say the ob deck is 285m above grd, but its 282m. I know its only 3m but its wrong.the lev89 is 285m.
anyway,

Without this coming across like a Q1 bash...I really do like the building....I don't think they would ever put comparative diagrams up for obvious reasons! As a kid for years I used to think the ESB was 109 stories but hardly anyone ever went beyond the Ob. Deck at the base of the spire mast...I know all building owners will put their positive spin to any statistic when they can...as you said even the Eureka has done it.

^ but they did or do have B&W diagrams on the Q1 lobby or foyer with tall bldgs/structures from around the world. All done out of scale. Eureka was only as high as Q1s roof and eifel tower looked tiny, Empire state was taller then Sears ect
Its called artististic licence.lol

the SUMMIT in Australia sq is still a great spot to view from.
500ft up
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/101/274475685_48fb2a22d5_b.jpg

41m dia revolving floor plate

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/44/146206281_b575ef3098_b.jpg

Q1 deck wins the gold here - by a pretty handy margin. Spacious, great light, interesting architectural views upwards and of course, the killer Surfers Paradise, Pacific Ocean, canal and hinterland views - great colours and contrasts.

^yeah but does it revolve? lol

another from the summit
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/51/146127794_a961b22e63_b.jpg

^^ Does it revolve? Depends on how many drinks you have had!:cheers:

^sure does. one of the largest revolving restaurants in the world.

Q1 deck wins the gold here - by a pretty handy margin. Spacious, great light, interesting architectural views upwards and of course, the killer Surfers Paradise, Pacific Ocean, canal and hinterland views - great colours and contrasts.

Ignoring the actual view and just talking about the deck, I would agree. The entire top of Q1 was designed around the deck, and it really shows. The near double height windows, the glass on the roof, looking up at the spire. It's much better than the Eureka's which is just slapped into a normal floor.

For a photos though, Rialto is so much better than anything in Australia. 2 open air sections with bars big enough to put a proper lens though = win.
Q1 and Eureka sure fucked that up.

Dan's right - Rialto kicks arse (http://bighugelabs.com/flickr/onblack.php?id=501915538&size=Large).

I must admit when I went up Rialto I was delighted to find the outside areas. You really feel the wind at that level and it was a much better experience that being behind the glass walls. Plus it was great for photos, glad I had a digital camera as I had already taken a few glass reflection shots before I discovered the outside areas.

^ have you done the BridgeClimb yet? not only do you have to climb but your out in open with cars wizzing below and reach 135m above the harbour. Its the most amazing experience. A MUST DO WHILE IN SYDNEY!
anyway
heres a pic brissylad took in sept last year from roof of Riparian. Its 200m high which will give everyone an idea how high Visions ob deck will be in 3 years!

brissylad
http://users.tpg.com.au/cmr05e/September05016.jpg

City Hall looks really good from up there.

Can you take cameras on the SHB or Story Bridge climbs?

They are some fantastic views.

I took some views from my model at the point of visions observation deck.
I know some of the colours are not updated. And that some smaller proposals are missing. Nevertheless...
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t90/Brizbane2/3d%20Model/07-05-19thd.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t90/Brizbane2/3d%20Model/07-05-19the.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t90/Brizbane2/3d%20Model/07-05-19thf.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t90/Brizbane2/3d%20Model/07-05-19thg.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t90/Brizbane2/3d%20Model/07-05-19thh.jpg

And now just for fun two images from an imaginary 230mRL observation deck in the proposed Meriton tower.

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t90/Brizbane2/3d%20Model/07-05-19thi.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t90/Brizbane2/3d%20Model/07-05-19thj.jpg

cool.

Is the observation deck still open in the tower of Brisbane City Hall??? I went up it around 1962 .....it was about the tallest thing back then if I remember right ???

Is the observation deck still open in the tower of Brisbane City Hall??? I went up it around 1962 .....it was about the tallest thing back then if I remember right ???

Yep, it's still going strong. Great old lift inside the tower.

I think this is still the highest public accessible place in Brisbane.
Does anyone know anywhere else like a restaurant or bar?
Years ago you used to be able to go to the top floor of Lennons.
And I think the Sheraton also had a bar at the top, not sure now.

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Thanks Aussie Bhoy, hard to believe it's still the highest public viewing area in Brisbane???

the observation platform in City hall tower is approx 60m/200ft above grd. ive been up years ago. excellent, really slow lift.

Amazing thread ! Keep up the good work !

find the pics Sydney and gold coast (faraway )and beautiful Australia( on high )pics , enjoy......

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/35/105473441_ee00c317f1_o.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/240/462598247_f663e93731_b.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/221/474376265_9ea232b37b_b.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/192/475396200_b86cd29575_b.jpg

Wow those pics are prett damn stunning. Q1 looks so powerful and dominating.

Not from an observation deck, but had to post this arial view that is one of my favourites of the Gold Coast saved on my computer. Thanks to who originally posted this.

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/6371/goldcoast3br7.jpg

Is any resemblance of that sandbar to a certain country purely coincidental?

It's definitely not man made. There are wash marks on it, and there are permanent markers in the water to warn boats around it. It's dead nice though!!

The Illawarra Fly has just opened south of sydney
http://www.illawarrafly.com/
my mate went on weekend
the views are breathtaking from 45m tower
view north to lake illawarra
(700m above sea level)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3187/2465776087_5dc66519ea_o.jpg

45m/150ft Knights tower
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2206/2466602406_824b3e6167_b.jpg

i had no idea Eureka was taller then Sydney tower.

^it isnt, its 12m lower ;-)

I think he meant in terms of it's observation deck height.

It's often deceiving. Just like how Sky Tower markets it's observation deck as being "the tallest' over Sydney Tower or how Q1 markets itself over Eureka.

They select the stats that please them but convieniently exclude others...


The Illawarra Fly looks great! It looks alot like the Otway Fly (http://www.polyvore.com/cgi/profile?id=172219), which has similar canopies ranging between 25 and 40 meters above the forest floor, with a 45m high observation tower.

There is one similar in Far North Queensland and New Zealand- could very well be the same company.

yes i know he ment a higher ob deck but he didnt say that.lol
eurekas ob deck is 30m higher then syd tower.
skytower in NZ is only 200m. but as we know its all got to do with selling and advertising.

yes i know he ment a higher ob deck but he didnt say that.lol
eurekas ob deck is 30m higher then syd tower.
skytower in NZ is only 200m. but as we know its all got to do with selling and advertising.

I was in Auckland in January and they would have you believe it's higher than anything in Aust (which it is) but nobody was able to understand that there are many decks in Australia that are higher.

Sky Tower is amazing but even in real life-- it look slike the decks should be higher up the tower.

What Perth needs is an observation tower in the city.

What Perth needs is an observation tower in the city.

No it doesn't. Perth will be just fine without having to resort to one.

There are too many around the world.

No it doesn't.
lol can I detect some concern for little ol backwater hick town Perth from a proud Melbournian?

Hot diggedy dog! :banana:

No it doesn't. Perth will be just fine without having to resort to one.

There are too many around the world.

ofcourse Perth needs ones.

We don't need any parks either, too many around the world.

yes perth needs a world class facility asap.
Originally perth had a top floor ob deck on one of the citys tallest back in the 1930s. the Gledden bldg had an observation turret whichgave great views of the city.
Then in 1976, AMP square was completed with a top floor ob deck which was 122m/400ft above grd. not bad.
In 1977 the City centre was completed equipped with a 30m diametre revolving restaurant also approx 400ft high.
I thought in 1988 ABond may have put one in R&I bank (bankwest) but nothing.
Then the 250m CP was built in 1992 and still no deck. the top floor would have been perfect at 200m high.
Now we have BHP being built and im sure there still is no plans for an ob deck. that would be nice one also at about 200m high.

ofcourse Perth needs ones.

We don't need any parks either, too many around the world.

An observation tower is completely different to a park.

Settle down guys (ie/ Rezz). I don't think Perth need's an observation tower. I am not saying it does not need an observation deck, I just don't like observation towers. They are something cities built in the 20th century, and the only cities building them these days are one desperate to make a point.

To clarify I am refereing to observation towers/TV towers (like Sky Tower, Macao Tower and Centrepoint)

I actually agree. Towers seem like a bit of a waste of money if you ask me.

I would rather see one of the big new towers in Perth get an ob deck. Of the current buildings the top floor of Bankwest is the only real possibility, currently it is a monument to Bonds ego and contains an unused office (I think).

Part of the conditions of the landmark tower on the foreshore is that it includes a public skygarden. Which, if the height of the building concept is any indication, should be around 250m high. Problem is that it won't be done for another ten years at least.

mix up of words. My bad.

Observation Towers = 20th century.

What Perth needs is an observation tower in the city.

do you want ours?

^no way. we have one the best in world. leave it alone.

urgh observation towers are hideous. Yes, we do need one in a building though :) WHen you say AMP square cul do you mean the AMP tower yeah? I wonder if the ob deck is still there?

Cul does love Centerpoint. He needs to cling tightly to Sydney's tallest, no matter how dated and useless it looks :hug:

^no way. we have one the best in world. leave it alone.

I agree. There is nothing as beautiful as seeing Sydney Tower as the dawn light touches its gold facade from Sydney's inner east.

J

Cul does love Centerpoint. He needs to cling tightly to Sydney's tallest, no matter how dated and useless it looks :hug:
dated? nah. useless? nah. its a communications tower and tourist location. a must to all who visit sydney.
its a sydney icon now, much like the bridge and opera house.
atleast its not a generic com tower.
no other tower like it.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2161/2349274318_6dc10f5efa_b.jpg
looks good in day and night

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Is that a crack in the floor?! D:

Kidding

Australias highest observatory way back in 62
roof of sydneys AMP bldg (106m)
http://image.sl.nsw.gov.au/apa/15/d7_15124.jpg

view from Australias tallest in 67
Aussie sq (160m high)-summit
http://image.sl.nsw.gov.au/apa/46/d7_46470.jpg

I remember going up to the top of Australia Square as a young boy in the late 60's. I was confused because the building looked more like a circle than a square to me :)

the word square has 36 meanings.
Australia SQuare being meaning -no27 not no3. lol

1(n.) One hundred superficial feet.
2(n.) A pane of glass.
3(n.) To form with four sides and four right angles.
4(n.) To compare with, or reduce to, any given measure or standard.
5(a.) Leaving nothing; hearty; vigorous.
6(n.) To form with right angles and straight lines, or flat surfaces; as, to square mason's work.
7(a.) Having four equal sides and four right angles; as, a square figure.
8(a.) At right angles with the mast or the keel, and parallel to the horizon; -- said of the yards of a square-rigged vessel when they are so braced.
9(n.) Exact proportion; justness of workmanship and conduct; regularity; rule.
10(a.) Exactly suitable or correspondent; true; just.
11(n.) A square piece or fragment.
12(a.) Rendering equal justice; exact; fair; honest, as square dealing.
13(n.) The corner, or angle, of a figure.
14(n.) To multiply by itself; as, to square a number or a quantity.
15(n.) To adjust; to regulate; to mold; to shape; to fit; as, to square our actions by the opinions of others.
16(n.) Hence, a pattern or rule.
17(v. i.) To take a boxing attitude; -- often with up, sometimes with off.
18(v. i.) To go to opposite sides; to take an attitude of offense or defense, or of defiance; to quarrel.
19(n.) Fig.: The relation of harmony, or exact agreement; equality; level.
20(n.) To make even, so as leave no remainder of difference; to balance; as, to square accounts.
21(n.) The act of squaring, or quarreling; a quarrel.
22(v. i.) To accord or agree exactly; to be consistent with; to conform or agree; to suit; to fit.
23(a.) Even; leaving no balance; as, to make or leave the accounts square.
24(n.) A certain number of lines, forming a portion of a column, nearly square; -- used chiefly in reckoning the prices of advertisements in newspapers.
25(n.) The position of planets distant ninety degrees from each other; a quadrate.
26(n.) To place at right angles with the keel; as, to square the yards.
27(n.) An area of four sides, generally with houses on each side; sometimes, a solid block of houses; also, an open place or area for public use, as at the meeting or intersection of two or more streets.
28(a.) Having a shape broad for the height, with rectilineal and angular rather than curving outlines; as, a man of a square frame.
29(n.) Hence, anything which is square, or nearly so
30(n.) A parallelogram having four equal sides and four right angles.
31(n.) An instrument having at least one right angle and two or more straight edges, used to lay out or test square work. It is of several forms, as the T square, the carpenter's square, the try-square., etc.
32(a.) Forming a right angle; as, a square corner.
33(n.) To hold a quartile position respecting.
34(n.) The front of a woman's dress over the bosom, usually worked or embroidered.
35(n.) A body of troops formed in a square, esp. one formed to resist a charge of cavalry; a squadron.
36(n.) The product of a number or quantity multiplied by itself; thus, 64 is the square of 8, for 8 / 8 = 64; the square of a + b is a2 + 2ab + b2.

Wow...slow day at work Cul?;)

loll. just a simple cut & paste.
some many people say that about australia square. next time i hear it i may kill someone.

do you want ours?

ok then deal :lol:

only 60m above ground but thats irrelevant compared to actual views.
Canberras Black mountain tower rises 600m above sea level .


photos from lzwilliams /flickr
aug9/08

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http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3155/2759241693_3117278634.jpg?v=0

surley one of best views in world

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2289/2760083118_ff50460fdb.jpg?v=0

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3259/2760083758_be4bcf65ca.jpg?v=0

rising 200m above black mountian
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3099/2757909411_69f6d3b0cb_b.jpg

view at night/ stunning
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3206/2731256905_1ae8f0eeb4_b.jpg

closeup turret
the smaller turret is observation and restaurant levels with outdoor area above
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3130/2728106600_10e2f53772_b.jpg

i reckon they should allow climbing up to work platform

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2287/2726307544_cbbfc3f3cf_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3253/2731921942_84a93fd055_b.jpg

I remember going on that! :)

Observation towers are so 20th Century. In the 21st Century we prefer Observation Wheels.

^^Like the London Eye! It;s nice but ive never been on it , to expensive for my liking.;)

I drove passed the Southern Star Obs wheel today and there's quite a few pods now connected. Can't wait till it's finished and check it out. I hope it's lit up at night as well as Singapore's wheel.

The southern star observation wheel has LED lights connected to the arcs. It'll be lit up pretttty well.

im actually all for observation wheels,ive always liked moving architecture, but melbournes wheels location is questionable.
views of industrial areas? carpark roofs, ect, hopefully the waterfront precinct will spruce it up abit.
i would of put the wheel right on the water (aka london eye) instead of away from everything.

http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/1267/105001267cl1214230212.jpg

It seems hard to believe that the site of Melbourne's wheel was decided upon by anyone who has been to Melbourne.

In Brisbane we have a great site, but sadly it's only 60m, not the 120m+ that I think the concept really needs.

You have to remember that the wheel has been built without any public money. The whole thing is being funded by ING Real Estate, so if it turns belly up, it's their own fault. realistically, I think it will be better to look at than look from, although the view of the city will be ok from there. Also, and more and more of that land around there is developed (which won't be too far away), again it will get better.

managed to draw up a quick height profile diagram of canberra.
the black mountain basically sits 240m above lake burley griffin/canberra
the towers obervation sits approx 309-317m above canberra, which is quite impressive.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3105/2764416708_46f945536f_o.jpg

i believe that the Southern Star Ob wheel is being built more for the future. at this point in time, there really isn't much to look at around there particularly to the west. i agree with dockman that its going to be much better to look at and the view from footscray at night will be fantastic when its all lit up. the position of it back from the water was based on the notion of "pulling" people from the water and through the retail area. if it was directly on the water, it would also obstruct views for the residents in the towers in newquay.

anyways thats what i think about that :)

With AMP's observation deck, I actually had the chance during an open day to the public during 2004 to go and view the city from there. The views are very good.

From what I know the AMP Board meets on the same floor which opens up to the balconies.

I want somebody to mix a Ferris Wheel with an observation tower. Imagine Sydney Tower with the London Eye rolling around it.

I want somebody to mix a Ferris Wheel with an observation tower. Imagine Sydney Tower with the London Eye rolling around it.

that has been done already in Las Vegas USA. The Stratosphere Tower! a 350m hotel and casino on the northern end of the strip with a roller coster and rides on its roof! i remember seeing it and was like omg i gotta check that out, but never got around to it as i was staying down in the main part of the strip (bout 10kms)
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/2269/428pxstratospherelasvegch6.jpg
http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/4551/strattowerxw8.jpg
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/6717/497067558ff1aa76e23tt9.jpg

^^ That is insane!

Vertigo, anyone?

Crazy.

^that would make sydney tower look silly. it would only look appropriate in a place like vegas.

^that would make sydney tower look silly. it would only look appropriate in a place like vegas.

...or Brisvegas :nuts:

Unbelievable... Who would ride one of those?

I don't think the immediate buildings underneath the southern star will make much difference. When on the London Eye the last thing you notice is the river underneath or the buildings really close by and most people don't bother turning to face South London everyone crams to one side of the pod to view St James, Parliament etc etc

not in southern hemisphere but Tehrans 435m Milad tower is impressive. love the lighting

http://www.jamejamonline.ir/Media/images/1387/05/27/L00946603345.jpg

http://www.jamejamonline.ir/Media/images/1387/05/26/X00946573404.jpg

Although not very tall nowadays, the Brisbane City Hall observation deck was probably the highest in Australia when it opened in 1930. I think the observation deck on Sydney's AWA Tower was slightly taller in 1939. In the clocktower lift it says the observation deck is 250 feet above ground and the total building height is 302 feet. What do you think Culwulla.

I went up that deck two years ago after being tipped off about it by someone at uni. Nice views of downtown.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v28/Fabian/Old%20Stuff/P7128602.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v28/Fabian/P7128598.jpg

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Although not very tall nowadays, the Brisbane City Hall observation deck was probably the highest in Australia when it opened in 1930. I think the observation deck on Sydney's AWA Tower was slightly taller in 1939. In the clocktower lift it says the observation deck is 250 feet above ground and the total building height is 302 feet. What do you think Culwulla.
yeah they stuffed up the heights with brisbane city hall. i told them this when i visited a few years ago.
the height of deck is 200ft/60m above grd NOT 250ft.
The 302ft/92m height came from a proposed statue of a horse that never was put up. so height to small ball is 85m.
Sydneys GPO tower had s small observatory above the clock tower whch was 60m/200ft above grd.it was opened from 2-4pm most days. this was opened to public soon after completion in 1891.
The AWA tower had an observation platform (5mx5m) up the radio mast. It was 97m high and was accessible by smal 4person lift. it closed in 1970s due to a malfunction with people trapped up there for hours.
The southeast pylon of harbour brdge has always had its obersvatory since 1932 and is 85m high.

Thanks. I always thought it was strange standing on the observation deck and looking across Adelaide Street to the top of King George Tower - which I know is about 200 ft. tall and thinking "Gee, this observation deck seems pretty much in line with the top of KGT". You'd think they'd fix it - it cant be too hard to replace a small brass plaque in one lift.

Sentech tower also on a hill..... Best viewing platform however must be by far table mountain in Cape Town!

close encounters
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3236/2954376182_42c96b109d_b.jpg

Portland RSL tower, VIC. former water tower conversion
what a fab idea
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3084/3173739904_91cd62215b_b.jpg

Watchtower atop Mt Bunnyong, South East of Ballarat. It's around 20 metres tall and you need good legs to scale the stairs

http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/363/dscf2034.jpg

The view

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/5039/dscf2026l.jpg

^should be more towers like these all over suburbia
once australias tallest building!
the 67m high marcus clarks store,Railway sq
the top was once open as a childrens playgrd while mum and dad shopped. ah those were the days
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e8/Railway_Square_Marcus_Clark_Building.JPG/450px-Railway_Square_Marcus_Clark_Building.JPG

DNA Tower, Kings Park, Perth, Western Australia.
Only 15meters tall.

http://i44.tinypic.com/20ffhnb.jpg

Those Towers Near Yeah Them :D
http://i39.tinypic.com/11m6hiw.jpg

Subiaco Oval Lights
http://i43.tinypic.com/28ssnlu.jpg

Sir Charles Gairdner Hospital
http://i41.tinypic.com/2qn8n0p.jpg

King Edward Memorial Hospital
http://i40.tinypic.com/34hudtc.jpg

QV1 and Woodside Plaza
http://i43.tinypic.com/2usd2iw.jpg

East Perth
http://i42.tinypic.com/95wtqc.jpg

Central Park,140 St Georges Terrace And Bank West
http://i42.tinypic.com/2r3wim0.jpg

South Perth
http://i39.tinypic.com/23r9zxh.jpg

^great tower and views. so much bush right near CBD? great

Its 4.06-square-kilometre (1,003-acre) of bush haha, so yeah a fair bit of bush:lol:

Portland RSL tower, VIC. former water tower conversion
what a fab idea
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3084/3173739904_91cd62215b_b.jpg

http://www.travelvictoria.com.au/images/portland/photos/087.jpg

only 60m above ground but thats irrelevant compared to actual views.
Canberras Black mountain tower rises 600m above sea level .


photos from lzwilliams /flickr
aug9/08

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3265/2759241463_34666e0d07.jpg?v=0

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3080/2760082656_1b29eca2db_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3155/2759241693_3117278634.jpg?v=0

surley one of best views in world

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2289/2760083118_ff50460fdb.jpg?v=0

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3259/2760083758_be4bcf65ca.jpg?v=0

rising 200m above black mountian
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3099/2757909411_69f6d3b0cb_b.jpg

view at night/ stunning
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3206/2731256905_1ae8f0eeb4_b.jpg

closeup turret
the smaller turret is observation and restaurant levels with outdoor area above
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3130/2728106600_10e2f53772_b.jpg

i reckon they should allow climbing up to work platform

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2287/2726307544_cbbfc3f3cf_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3253/2731921942_84a93fd055_b.jpg


Kinda reminds me of Seoul Tower...

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j286/ExpatJane/smileys/December%202007/seoultowerbykolinka.jpg

http://www.lifeinkorea.com/Tours/pics/Korea/331-1.jpg

I know this thread is about observation decks but isn't it amazing that many great views are often just above a normal suburban house roof height. If you just get above a roof and tree line you can often see for miles ( Kilometres ? ) Driving down a road or around curves you glimpse a skyline but trees and buildings keep growing in front of you blocking the view......Keep those Observation Decks coming !

similar to eurekas Edge?
but 130m higher.
The view from Chicago's 'Ledge' gets more dizzying

http://www.theskydeck.com/images/theledge1.jpg

http://www.theskydeck.com/images/theledge3.jpg

CHICAGO, July 1 (Reuters) - The view from the tallest skyscraper in the Western Hemisphere just got better.

Some may experience a floating sensation when stepping into one of four glass boxes that jut out from the indoor observation deck at the Sears Tower.

"At first I was kind of afraid but I got used to it," said Adam Kane, 10, a visitor from Alton, Illinois, as clouds drifted past. "Look at all those tiny things that are usually huge."

"The Ledge," unveiled on Wednesday, invites visitors to step onto a 1-1/2 inch-thick (4 cm) glass floor suspended 1,353 feet (412 metres) in the air.

"We did studies that showed a 4-foot-deep (1.2 metres) enclosure makes you feel like you're floating since there's only room for one row of people, not two," architect Ross Wimer said. The enclosures are 10 feet (3 metres) high and 10 feet wide.

The popular deck attracts 25,000 visitors on clear days. They each pay $15 to take an elevator ride up to the 103rd floor of the 110-story office building that opened in 1973.

Architects considered creating an open-air deck, like the one atop New York's Empire State Building, but the rush of air that would have been created could compromise the skyscraper's mechanical systems, Wimer said.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5c/Telstra_tower_and_balloon.jpg

^^ what a good way to see the city, from a balloon...

Apparently Darwin has an unofficial observation in a skyrise pub.. Now why didn't I know about this elsewhere?

A pub on the 32nd floor which will be the highest pub in Darwin, 2 penthouse units.

Evolution on Gardiner is the tallest building in Darwin. It is located on the eastern part of the Darwin CBD on Knuckey Street. The roof of the tower is 100 metres above ground reaching Darwin's maximum height limit of 120 meters above sea level.

The building will contain five commercial suites on the ground floor, 104 apartments, A pub on the 32nd floor which will be the highest pub in Darwin, 2 penthouse units. Construction began on Evolution in July 2006 and was completed in July 2008.

http://www.nova-tec.com.au/Projects/projects%20(2).htm (4th last project on the list)

So does anyone such as Cul have any pics of the outlook from this pub? :lol: I can't recall seeing any pics of it let alone from the observing outlook of the pub.

heres a view from 29th floor of evelouton. gives idea how high you are up/
would be awesome

view from deep balconies
http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/4545/105694545ml1240296851.jpg

http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/9265/105869265el1248153560.jpg

more of sears towers "ledge cubes"

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2631/3679993430_4691e7e31b_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2464/3680520437_13f816c624_o.jpg

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http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2566/3791744617_002d09220d_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3465/3747858455_25c8d525c7.jpg

^^ looks amazing... but since when is Chicago in the Southern Hemisphere. lol.

^title edit ;-)
hey this concept would be perfect for new BHP tower in perth. i would put 1 pod on each face, so you would get allround views. the pods would sit at 200m above grd.perfect

The view down from the observation level at the Eureka tower which is 285m I think??

http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/8813/n55418123224546162503.jpg

I also went out on the glass box which moves outside the building but no photos allowed.


MCG and Melbourne Park taken from the ob deck:

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/1218/n55418123224546075229.jpg

http://www.theage.com.au/national/en...1007-gn8m.html

End in view for Rialto's top deck
MARIKA DOBBIN, PROPERTY EDITOR
October 8, 2009

MELBOURNE will lose one of its best-known tourist attractions on New Year's Eve when the observation deck at the Rialto Towers closes, costing 30 people their jobs.

The deck will close as part of an ambitious project to transform the skyscraper on the corner of King and Collins streets into the centre of a new culinary and retail precinct.

The Age reported yesterday that glamour chef Shannon Bennett had been in preliminary talks to move his exclusive Vue de Monde restaurant to a new $4 million home at the top of the building.

Rialto Joint Venture, made up of St Martins Victoria and Grollo Australia, has informed observation deck staff about its plans to close the attraction

St Martins director John Apps said the deal with Vue de Monde was far from complete, but that the observation deck would close regardless.

He said the deck had hosted millions of sightseers since it opened in 1994, but had suffered from a tightening in the consumer dollar.

''I think all tourism attractions have been feeling the strain in the last couple of years and you have to reinvent yourself,'' he said.

The Rialto deck has also faced competition in recent years from the Skydeck at Eureka Tower, and faced the prospect of additional competition when the troubled Southern Star observation wheel at Docklands - now being repaired - is back in operation.

Developer Lorenz Grollo said the deck needed a significant upgrade, with Bennett and several other operators interested in taking it over. ''The observation deck is key in terms of the total rejuvenation of the precinct,'' he said.

Rialto Joint Venture has begun overhauling the area around the skyscraper, renovating some 19th century buildings for the new Intercontinental Hotel, buying properties and attracting new eateries.

The venture partners aim to help improve the image of the western end of the CBD and hope to reposition the Rialto as the centre of Melbourne.

Restaurant consultant Tony Eldred said the west end was known as the nightclub district, and struggled to attract diners after dark.

''A lot of problems in the hospitality industry have been created by property developers who want restaurants to provide synergy with their projects, whether there is a solid market for them or not.''

But Mr Eldred said the potential Vue de Monde move was a good one for Bennett.

''Vue de Monde is what we call a destination restaurant, in that people will travel to it wherever it is,'' he said.

That's a pity....IMO the Rialto's obs deck is superior to Eureka's except in height of course but layout and lack of that dreaded glass reflection in skydeck makes it 'tops' for me.

Shit.

Noooooo!

Wrong decision to close it. It was cheap but you got your moneys worth. Even better views than Eureka. Only observation deck in Melbourne with outdoor viewing decks - maybe they could have concentrated their marketing on that???.

i told everyone this would happen. dont eureka and rialto have same managers?

That's a bummer, because now every photo taken from an ob-deck in Melbourne won't have the Eureka in it.

If I remember right the Rialto deck had a cafe and a corporate function room with full catering for events. Maybe it just wasn't making money anymore, so they decided to go down the restaurant path. So you can still go there, but you'll have to pay for an expensive meal instead of a cheap one.

^^ interesting perspective. The Rialto's view across the Yarra to Casino, Docklands and especially Eureka will be missed.

Wrong decision to close it. It was cheap but you got your moneys worth. Even better views than Eureka. Only observation deck in Melbourne with outdoor viewing decks - maybe they could have concentrated their marketing on that???.

eureka does have outdoor viewing, but its got some god aweful chicken wire looking stuff that obscures views over the east cbd and mcg... rialtos outdoor decks worked better because they had teh jail bars that you could poke your camera through for great pics!... sad really... now we wont be able to see the rest of docklands grow as rialto blocks most of it from big E...

Having two Ob decks was never going to be financially viable in a city the size of melbourne. This is a good move all round. It makes sense for the remaining Ob Deck to be in the city's tallest building, it gives the wheel much more of a chance of success once it is back up and running (it's going to be there anyway now, so let's stop kvetching about it and give it a chance to at least bring some people into the area), it will give Melbourne a real destination restaurant to rival those in Sydney, and the area around Rialto needs smartening up much more than the area around Eureka. Wanting a view of the burgeoning Docklands precinct now gives the wheel a reason to exist, as well. Win-win, as they say!

^ still not happy! It will be hard to get real good night photos too as Eureka's glass is just way to reflective and darker than Rialto's. I'll be sad, I have been on it like 40+ times since it opened in 94, I was a child then.

Eureka needs to fix the glare on its windows, otherwise I will never trek up there again :bash:

You dont really get your moneys worth.

^^Same with Q1

Eureka needs to fix the glare on its windows, otherwise I will never trek up there again :bash:

You dont really get your moneys worth.

I don't think they can do that without changing the outside appearence. Like Rialto the reflective surfaces will need to be removed. It would look terrible from outside.

^^Same with Q1

Q1 isn't that bad, not as bad as Eureka. Eureka also makes everything look yellowish, Rialto & Q1 do not have this effect.

sydney is lucky. we have 5.
sydney tower-250m & 260m Skywalk.
chifley tower lev42 restaurant-185m
australia squares SUMMIT restaurant-160m
SHB Bridgeclimb-134m
south/east pylon SHB- 90m.

sydney is lucky. we have 5.
sydney tower-250m & 260m Skywalk.
chifley tower lev42 restaurant-185m
australia squares SUMMIT restaurant-160m
SHB Bridgeclimb-134m
south/east pylon SHB- 90m.

We only really have Brisbane City Hall - which will be closed for the next few years for renovation :(

I really think its a shame that the tower proposed for Mount Coottha was never built. It would have provided a viewing platform more than 400m above the city, removed the lattice work of TV towers from the mountain and provide an interesting icon for the city.

Perth has the C Restraunt which is in St Martins Tower which is 140meters to the roof and C Restraunt is on the highest floor, it a revolving restaurant aswell :O

we have a few little ones
bell tower- around 50meters
perth wheel-50meters
and D&A Tower-50meters

lameee, C Restraunt is way cool though :D

Here's a few shots I took from the observation deck in the CNN tower in Toronto:

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_Trr2Q3Xbpxg/Rv9ov_8LmHI/AAAAAAAAAto/jniU6oItWXw/s912/14052007040.jpg

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_Trr2Q3Xbpxg/Rv9o5_8LmJI/AAAAAAAAAt4/ZDgwOEXvaGU/s912/14052007043.jpg

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_Trr2Q3Xbpxg/Rv9o0_8LmII/AAAAAAAAAtw/tA74kIEQPLk/s912/14052007042.jpg

From Vancouver's observation deck:

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_Trr2Q3Xbpxg/Rv9i-P8Ll0I/AAAAAAAAAsQ/INgEJ1yfzNI/s912/travels%20293.jpg

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_Trr2Q3Xbpxg/Rv9i4_8LlxI/AAAAAAAAAsE/bBoXL2WAVFk/s912/travels%20265.jpg

Those first couple of Toronto look like a wasteland. Yuk.


...and the last one aint much better.

Those first couple of Toronto look like a wasteland. Yuk.


...and the last one aint much better.

Yeah I'm not a fan of Toronto either. Probably one of the biggest let downs from the places I've traveled to. I much preferred Vancouver out of the two.

The CNN tower is pretty tall though :banana2:

^^ Can't believe they want to close the Rialto observation deck. Melbourne doesn't look as good from Eureka plus Eureka's glass is too reflective.
Hope they reconsider their decision...

Toronto looks terrible in those pictures, all those car parks, is that the main CBD area?

Re- Brisbane ob decks

JayT you are only counting the Clock Tower, but if you look at the other's lists they are counting restaurants and even the SHB.

So counting those you could add the Story Bridge climb to Brisbane, plus the top level restaurant at the Sofitel. Lennon's used to have a restaurant on level 30, not sure if it still does. Also there is/was a revolving restaurant at Spring Hill, the Metro, it must have a decent view, about 10 levels up. Any others I've forgotten?

I think the Metro one is long gone. Might be able to get it for a function. Urban Brisbane also has conference/function rooms up the top of its building. Another sorta 10-15 story building, but with its point up on the hill makes it a decent spot as well.

I think the Metro one is long gone. Might be able to get it for a function. Urban Brisbane also has conference/function rooms up the top of its building. Another sorta 10-15 story building, but with its point up on the hill makes it a decent spot as well.

These are the 2 I think we are talking about at Spring Hill. Waste of a good location if the Metro one is closed.

I wouldn't mind going up to the Sofital one either, the restaurant looks a bit pricey, which I'm prepared to pay, but would they get snooty if I'm obvious about being up there to get some high level Brisbane shots?

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/6431/p5070033.jpg (http://img10.imageshack.us/i/p5070033.jpg/)

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/3495/p5070046.jpg (http://img136.imageshack.us/i/p5070046.jpg/)

Re- Brisbane ob decks

JayT you are only counting the Clock Tower, but if you look at the other's lists they are counting restaurants and even the SHB.

So counting those you could add the Story Bridge climb to Brisbane, plus the top level restaurant at the Sofitel. Lennon's used to have a restaurant on level 30, not sure if it still does. Also there is/was a revolving restaurant at Spring Hill, the Metro, it must have a decent view, about 10 levels up. Any others I've forgotten?

Yeah I thought about that after posting. With regards to the last one posted - The "Urban Brisbane", I have seen many people up there. It looks like a bar or restaurant.

Toronto looks terrible in those pictures, all those car parks, is that the main CBD area?

No, it's the waterfront area which is in the process of redevelopment, much like Melbourne's Docklands.

I was pretty unimpressed by Toronto at first but it's a pretty wild place once you get to know people. I'd go back there to live in a heartbeat.

shame Perth Doesnt have one

Those first couple of Toronto look like a wasteland. Yuk.


...and the last one aint much better.

Vancouver a wasteland?? Then I hate to think of what the Gold Coast is...

Observation decks I've been up:

Rialto Towers, Melbourne
Eureka Tower, Melbourne
Telstra Tower, Canberra
Centrepoint Tower, Sydney
Sky Tower, Auckland
Eiffel Tower, Paris
The Fernsehturm, Berlin
Petrin Tower, Prague
KL Tower, Kuala Lumpur
Oriental Pearl Tower, Shanghai
World Financial Center, Shanghai
Empire State Building, New York

Yeah I'm not a fan of Toronto either. Probably one of the biggest let downs from the places I've traveled to. I much preferred Vancouver out of the two.

The CNN tower is pretty tall though :banana2:

What's wrong with Toronto (apart from the carparks being all over the place :lol:)? It looks alright on photos and google earth street view (lol).

shame Perth Doesnt have one

It does if you include the C Restaurant. jarkti mentioned it a few posts back...
http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/17121599.jpg
http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/9430/72512472.jpg
Pictures are old but you get the point ;)

What's wrong with Toronto (apart from the carparks being all over the place :lol:)? It looks alright on photos and google earth street view (lol).

to be fair i was only there for a few days, so i hardly had time to get a proper feel for the city

i guess i feel it lacks character and vibrancy compared to Vancouver...

I liked the underground shopping and the day trip to niagra falls was great fun :)

It does if you include the C Restaurant. jarkti mentioned it a few posts back...
http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/17121599.jpg
http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/9430/72512472.jpg
Pictures are old but you get the point ;)


so no im right... Perth DOESNT have one. Although AMP used to have one

im actually suprised no one (developer wise) has proposed a tower like centrepoint or sky tower in Perth.

im actually suprised no one (developer wise) has proposed a tower like centrepoint or sky tower in Perth.

Or in any other capital of Australia.

im actually suprised no one (developer wise) has proposed a tower like centrepoint or sky tower in Perth.

Im glad, i dont want one, there fricken ugly.

Vancouver a wasteland?? Then I hate to think of what the Gold Coast is...

Do you suffer from a reading disability? I didn't say Vancouver was a wasteland. I said the first few photos of TORONTO looked like a wasteland (not the whole of Toronto):ohno:

At least read the post before sledging and triggering another anti-Qld rant ( a quintessentially Victorian thing to do these days it seems).

Oh and given that Matt.Perth agreed with my post, are you going to rain abuse on Perth as well?

No, didn't think so...

....credability - zero.

I think its cause you said
...and the last one aint much better.

Its confusing brah.

Last Toronto picture I was referring to.

He has drawn a long bow - all the way to Vancouver apparently :lol:

Not sure when matt.perth took his pictures, but I'd presume it was before June of last year (2008).

These are some pics I took from the CN Tower (June '08), of it's not so appealing surroundings. (Note; the car parks are still everywhere).

http://i812.photobucket.com/albums/zz43/luketheseed/Toronto1.jpg
http://i812.photobucket.com/albums/zz43/luketheseed/Toronto.jpg

Plus, Alpha seems to love bashing on the Gold Coast. I would too if we had weather like Melbourne.

God, CALGARY had more going on at street level than Toronto, going by those pictures!

God, CALGARY had more going on at street level than Toronto, going by those pictures!

The Toronto pics are of its waterfront precinct, which is currently under development.

I'd hate for Melbourne to be judged solely on Docklands.

Do you suffer from a reading disability?

Maybe learn write in context next time.

Im glad, i dont want one, there fricken ugly.

you think centrepoint is ugly?

Maybe learn write in context next time.

Draw you a picture shall I?

Whilst you were bagging out the Gold Coast (again), you referred to my (apparently) critical comments about Vancouver - when my comments were about certain photographs of Toronto.

Do try and keep up when being all self-righteous - it makes you look stupid and we wouldn't want that.

Draw you a picture shall I?

Whilst you were bagging out the Gold Coast (again), you referred to my (apparently) critical comments about Vancouver - when my comments were about certain photographs of Toronto.

Do try and keep up when being all self-righteous - it makes you look stupid and we wouldn't want that.

This is just petty.

"You win".

What is wrong with Toronto's carparks? That just means there's potential for those sites.

Where as Australian cities are lacking in prime useable space.

Carparks are ugly.
Australia may lack usable space that's because we've already built on where Toronto would have made an ugly carpark. We've room to grow, just knock another building down.

Im glad, i dont want one, there fricken ugly.

hmm I think it depends on the skyline. I think one could work well with Perth, providing it didn't exceed 300m.

The view from high up in the Central Park/Bank West towers is fantastic. Particularly looking over the Swan River etc.

Skybar and Vertigo restaurant at State Tower, Bangkok:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3625/3415834933_49b8b4f76d_o.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tigerpalace/3415834933/

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2202/2073642890_d2d3d54149_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/21305018@N02/2073642890/

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2260/2258240706_5822aa1ca4_o.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/whyekong/2258240706/

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2183/2187514971_c3dbea7880_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/georg69de/2187514971/

Vertigo:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3555/3525259063_4d415a4ee9_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/asltravel/3525259063/

Carparks are ugly.
Australia may lack usable space that's because we've already built on where Toronto would have made an ugly carpark. We've room to grow, just knock another building down.

That is reflective of the spread of the motor car in North America. Also Australian CBD's lack the space of North American cities. Sydney's CBD almost has a 'house full' sign on it.

Some amazing pictures from Bangkok, looks very opulent.

Pity about all the slums and standard of living in the streets below.

LOL it is amazing but have a look at State Tower from the ground ... not so pretty!

Mmmm sexual ... not
http://www.skyscraperpicture.com/bangkok10.JPG

It's got more to do with view and atmosphere at night in Skybar and Vertigo than the actual building itself. I would recommend anyone who goes to Bangkok to stop by for at least a drink. There's usually a jazz band playing up in skybar, it's a good atmosphere.

Why is it Australian developers want restaurants on ground or first floors, and not on top levels. Few, apart from 41, now Bennett moving vue de monde to top of Rialto, or the poor performer on 35 fl of Sofitel. Eating up in the air should be the norm.

While the views are lovely, the building itself lacks flair.

Vancouver a wasteland?? Then I hate to think of what the Gold Coast is...

I personally love Vancouver and think it is a great place to visit (especially during ski season), but I too don't think the shots do it justice. You can have a great city and take photographs that don't show it in the best light. Just like my photos of Vancouver (not to mention my shots of Paris, Rome, Madrid, New York, Hong Kong......).

a few more pics of state tower

http://www.kiwicollection.com/upload/property2/lebua-at-state-tower_3525_04.jpg
http://www.kiwicollection.com

http://www.kiwicollection.com/upload/property2/lebua-at-state-tower_3525_06.jpg
http://www.kiwicollection.com

http://m.travelpn.com/images/bangkok/hotel/0/070888/Exterior_F_1.jpg
http://m.travelpn.com

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1384/1378379787_6f84446bc0.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/triplefivedrew/1378379787/

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3537/3317357119_0a5fecfeca.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/76883851@N00/3317357119/

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2506/3740088907_9b4d370617.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/37012880@N07/3740088907/

oct30
rare views from Skywalk-260m
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2554/4068091266_20ecc1bde7_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2702/4067338731_20e2d3b92b_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2668/4058799347_5c76c9e702_b.jpg

The suits and safety harnesses seem like a bit of over kill, is the wind that much they are likely to get blown off, or is there a dangerous climb to get there?

Great views though.

its an overkill. safety these days is silly

Maybe it's to convince people they are getting value for money for their $65 "Skywalk".

Edit - Just checked, it's $25 just to go up the tower, that seems like a lot, Rialto, Eureka and Q1 are all about $15. I notice they have grouped Sydney Tower with the "oztrek" experience (compulsory) to try and justify screwing people for so much to ride to the top of a lift. It is a great view, and I guess if you're a tourist you are kind of trapped, you've already paid money to come all this way, may as well pay the $25 and see the view.

Lunch at the restaurant is about $50, may as well do that instead.

actually the oztrek is cool. the skywalk was originally 150$, but way too much,no one was going up it. so it was dropped to 115$ then 95$, 75$ and now 65$.lol
its only 10m higher then highest ob deck. but i suppose you stand on glass bottom and look straight down.and your out in open air.
i reckon you should be able to cable over to roof of MLC! now that would be cool

I went up Rialto last week, as its closing at the end of the year.

Such a shame, its one of the best observation decks I've ever been up. Better than Eureka in some ways.

its an overkill. safety these days is silly

Our family was recently in WA and my kids climbed the 60+m Gloucester tree - no fee, no supervision (except for scared parents) and reo bar as steps with some wire mesh to keep them from falling straight over the side.

I did it back in 1986 but could only get about 15m this time shaking all the way on the cold slippery reo bars; I must be getting old.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gloucester_Tree

^yeah its an amAzing tree.go for your life i say. fall over. bad luck.
the ILLAWARRA FLY opened last year down on sydneys south coast.

http://www.illawarrafly.com/

the 25m high tree top boardwalks have great views at 700m above sea level.
the 45m Knights tower is a real treat
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2296/2413040209_e9717149f6_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2099/2413864288_8131b091f4_b.jpg

Ahhh Gloucester tree is awesome. Of the three Karri trees you can climb I have only done Gloucester and Diamond tree. Dave Evans Bicentennial tree is the tallest – 75 meters up! Differently need to climb that one day.

Rialto Closing

http://www.abc.net.au/news/video/2009/10/23/2722902.htm


:(

so the ob deck will be a restaurant? well thats ok. atleast there utilising the view and space up there.
sydney also has its restaurant in australia square still spinning since 1968.

What's remarkable is that Shannon bennett will still cook nice food 70 odd levels up.

Usually food quality is the counterweight to the lift that takes you to the ob deck - the higher the restaurant, the worse the food.

eureka tower ob deck from inside
must have JAVA
http://www.mediavr.com/eurekatower.htm