You mean the US is not taking us seriously because we are not serious about or defense either? It makes sense, anyway. But too bad for the Philippines. Now, I do really wonder how the US thinks of the Philippines as an ally. One might say we are the most important ally in the region, but that is debatable given their aid to Indonesia(greater than the Phils AFAIK).

I guess, unless our government will take our defense seriously, tiyaga muna sa ukay-ukay at "reverse engineering" ang AFP:lol::ohno::nuts:

^^ you have a point,... actually habol lang nila sa Pilipinas ay yung strategic location natin,... being the gateway to Asia,... kaya mas prioritized parin nila yung mga bansa na mas nagpapayaman sa kanila like buying more of their weapons kesa sa isang tambakan ng mga lumang kagamitan o nanghihingi lamang,...

kaya, we should start on our own,... we are capable of producing our own weapons here from guns, vehicles to armored vehicles,... and in the future may be stronger weapons...

You mean the US is not taking us seriously because we are not serious about or defense either?

Yes but like ive said it now seems that the 2011 budget is starting to look more credible than those in the past if truelly implemented .

^^ who said that the Philippines couldn't afford to buy better weapons?? i think if our officials will do some efforts just to improve our defensive capabilities, we can actually afford to buy those,... it may not be practical for us to buy many expensive weapons, but at least lets purchase the better once,... like the Hamilton, what capabilities are we expecting of it if it doesn't have the CIWS, radar and the Phalanx?? capabilities to watch over the sea's with their very eyes only? good if they install better armaments here but i really dont think so,... that's why i hope those 3 was already included in the package,...

I didn't say that. If our officials will take our defense seriously, then we could. But our government mentality, it hardly takes the AFP seriously. I mean AFP as an institution, not the generals and pabaons. With our governments policy toward the AFP, they hardly have the choice but to bear with ukay ukays, hands-it-downs and cold war era stuff we buy not only from the US but also from other countries as well (now, modernization... the irony)

^^ you have a point,... actually habol lang nila sa Pilipinas ay yung strategic location natin,... being the gateway to Asia,... kaya mas prioritized parin nila yung mga bansa na mas nagpapayaman sa kanila like buying more of their weapons kesa sa isang tambakan ng mga lumang kagamitan o nanghihingi lamang,...

kaya, we should start on our own,... we are capable of producing our own weapons here from guns, vehicles to armored vehicles,... and in the future may be stronger weapons...

Strategic location for China and the US. Bad locations for Filipinos. One of the reasons why we were dragged to the WW2 (other than being a US territory that time). The Philippines is like the "access point". Maybe, we should evacuate or islands to South of Australia. I was supposed to suggest Indian Ocean but then, I remember, there are lots of Somali pirates there :lol:

I didn't say that. If our officials will take our defense seriously, then we could. But our government mentality, it hardly takes the AFP seriously. I mean AFP as an institution, not the generals and pabaons. With our governments policy toward the AFP, they hardly have the choice but to bear with ukay ukays, hands-it-downs and cold war era stuff we buy not only from the US but also from other countries as well (now, modernization... the irony)

^^ yeah,... but it also goes back to corruption,... yung 16B na funds for modernization,... i think maraming na rin tayong mabibili dun,... though kulang pa,... just good for COIN operations,...

Yes but like ive said it now seems that the 2011 budget is starting to look more credible than those in the past if truelly implemented .


I tried to read about 2011 aid. Intersting. It extends to the police force. I wonder if it is partly because of the tourist bus mishandling

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/nation/view/20100829-289400/US-increases-2011-aid-to-RP-police

US increases 2011 aid to RP police

By Jerry E. Esplanada
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 15:10:00 08/29/2010

Filed Under: Police, Foreign affairs & international relations

MANILA, Philippines -- Good news. From nearly P495 million in 2010, the United States government has increased its law enforcement aid to the Philippines to close to P630 million in 2011, according to the US Embassy in Manila.

Washington's support for the government's law enforcement programs will be in the form of "technical assistance, training, facilities, and supply of equipment."

"The US government is a proud partner to Philippine law enforcement agencies as we work together to protect our citizens against cross-border criminal threats, including drug smuggling, trafficking in persons, financial crimes, and other violations," said the American diplomatic mission in its website on the Internet.

Contacted by the Philippine Daily Inquirer, Rebecca Thompson, US embassy spokesperson, called the increased US law enforcement aid "proof of the strong ties between Washington and Manila."

Early this month, US Ambassador to the Philippines Harry K. Thomas Jr. formally turned over four "sophisticated patrol boats" to the Philippine National Police's Maritime Group.

During simple turnover rites in Puerto Princesa City, Thomas said they recognized the "importance of investing in the PNP and establishing a viable and professional and maritime law enforcement presence."

"A strong and sustained maritime policing capability will safeguard the security of all," the ambassador emphasized.

During the past two years, the US government backed the PNP with infrastructure projects worth about P202 million.

This year, Washington will "build and equip a fully functional crime lab in and a secure barracks (with classroom) at the Philippine Public Safety College, both in Zamboanga City, and a general office building for the Philippine Drug Enforcement Agency in Butuan City."

In Palawan, the US government plans to put up a "consolidated training facility and a maritime police station on Balabac Island.

he US embassy said that the US Department of Justice's International Criminal Investigative Training Assistance Program "works in partnership with the PNP to strengthen police competencies throughout the country."

"Training projects, aligned with the PNP's Integrated Transformation Plan, address criminal investigations, maritime law enforcement, community policing, counter-terrorism, leadership, trafficking in persons, women's and children's issues, and police ethics," among others, said the embassy.

At least 68 Filipino law enforcement officers have taken up courses offered by the State Department-run International Law Enforcement Academy, whose Southeast Asia campus is in Bangkok.

US law enforcement agencies also "work closely with the PNP to share information and develop strategies to enforce anti-terrorism laws and prevent terrorist threats" here.

Last year, the US state department provided P157.2 million in anti-terrorism aid, or ATA to the PNP.

ATA also funded an anti-terrorism curriculum development project for the PNP Academy, as well as a three-month PNP Basic Explosive Ordinance Disposal Training Course.

The US Rewards for Justice Program, meanwhile, will continue to provide funds for "information leading to the capture, arrest, prosecution, and elimination of known terrorists," said the embassy.

"Since 2006, the program has paid P516 million to citizens of the Philippines for their cooperation in locating infamous terrorists," it disclosed.

According to the embassy, the state department's Regional Security Office and the US Department of Homeland Security's Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) teams "work closely with Philippine authorities to detect cases of visa and passport fraud and document counterfeiting."

The ICE office in Manila "investigates a broad range of violations, including money laundering, child sex tourism, gun smuggling, and customs fraud."

It also trains civil aviation and airline personnel in identifying fraudulent travel documents and investigating people behind immigration fraud.

Washington also "strongly supports the Philippines in its fight against human trafficking."

Since 2005, the US government has provided P297.2 million to anti-human trafficking activities of both government and non-government groups here.

Thomas had told a Cebu City anti-human trafficking event they "want this support to continue."

"Fighting human trafficking is not a static exercise...The global community has to do more every year and change its tactics as traffickers change theirs," he asserted.

Early this month, the US government-run Millennium Challenge Corporation, or MCC approved the release of $434 million to the Philippine government's anti-poverty program.

The MCC, which is chaired by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, has allocated $54.3 million for the "computerization and streamlining of business processes in the Bureau of Internal Revenue."

The MCC also set aside $214.4 million for the construction and repair of 220 kilometers of national roads in Samar.

The project aims to "improve access to public markets and services for farmers, fisherfolk and small businesses in one of the poorest provinces in the Philippines," said the MCC.

Another $120 million will go to the expansion of the Kalahi-CIDSS, a community-based, rural development program here.

In a statement, MCC executive officer Daniel Yohannes noted Filipinos "have articulated a clear vision to improve the quality of their lives through a technically, environmentally and socially-sound plan."

Yohannes expressed confidence that the Philippines' "ongoing commitment to positive reforms, accountability and transparency, and the timely implementation of the compact will deliver tangible results."

Yes but like ive said it now seems that the 2011 budget is starting to look more credible than those in the past if truelly implemented .

^^ hmmm yes,... at least may nakikita na rin tayo di lang imaginary projects,...

^^ yeah,... but it also goes back to corruption,... yung 16B na funds for modernization,... i think maraming na rin tayong mabibili dun,... though kulang pa,... just good for COIN operations,...

Yep. The money supposedly for the AFP is going...well no need to mention. And I agree that the allocate budget isn't enough either. But with the NPA in the congress, looks like it will be tough increasing the allocation.

^^ i really think bibili kaagad sila ng makabagong kagamitan kung sa oras na umatake na yung mga PLA at maisakamay na nila yung kalayaan islands,... worst,... if sakaling pumasok pa sila sa mainland ng Philippines,... kunin nila pwersahan yung Pinas para madepensahan din nila sarili laban sa mga Kano,...

^Likely. Pero ang pangit naman kung ganun. Pero puede ring hindi. MakaChina ata kasi yung mga partylist na nasa Congress. Binababaoy na tayo ng China, hindi man lang sila nagrarally sa Chinese embassy.

Bibili lang kapag inatake na. Baka nga di makabili kasi bago pa tayo makaorder, wipe out na ang AFP. Hindi naman sa minamaliit ko, but we severely lack in preparedness.

^^ no,... its the reality,... though strategy is what we can win of, kulang parin kagamitan natin i compare mo of what they have,... jungle fighting? baka bombahin nalang nila buong kagubatan o paulanan ng missiles bawat hostile areas,... im so sad but it is whats happening now, kung dati sa panahon ni Marcos we are being feared ngayon we are being bullied,... Karma ba tawag dun,? o katangahan lamang?

^^ no,... its the reality,... though strategy is what we can win of, kulang parin kagamitan natin i compare mo of what they have,... jungle fighting? baka bombahin nalang nila buong kagubatan o paulanan ng missiles bawat hostile areas,... im so sad but it is whats happening now, kung dati sa panahon ni Marcos we are being feared ngayon we are being bullied,... Karma ba tawag dun,? o katangahan lamang?

Katangahan. The only time we were a threat was when Marcos planned to invade Sabah. But then, it could be Karma din. IDK. Probably both? :ohno:

Jungle fighting, IMO would only be in effect once we lose the "conventional" warfare..coz reality, with what AFP have, baka isang araw lang tayo sa conventional warfare. Not unless we get allies like NATO. But I think there lies the problem, we're so dependent on our countries, the US in particular for defending us from external threat that we don't bother to upgrade

^^ hope makita ng AFP ito kung how hard Chinese Pigs train,...

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Katangahan. The only time we were a threat was when Marcos planned to invade Sabah. But then, it could be Karma din. IDK. Probably both? :ohno:

Jungle fighting, IMO would only be in effect once we lose the "conventional" warfare..coz reality, with what AFP have, baka isang araw lang tayo sa conventional warfare. Not unless we get allies like NATO. But I think there lies the problem, we're so dependent on our countries, the US in particular for defending us from external threat that we don't bother to upgrade

^^ iba na talaga panahon ngayon,... :cry: when are we going to get better again,...

^^ nakaktakot, parang may balak... reminds me of Germany before the start of ww2

^^ well,... goodluck to us,...

"History repeats itself, coz nobody cares to listen at 1st",...

Were you the type of child who believed every dream and promise of their parents to them ?, im sure every Filipino family has a member who is a dreamer filled with talk and promises and after a while you figure out that family member is simply all talk and there comes a time when you simply don't get excited at their promises anymore .

I think that you were being naive about "talk" or declarations made by certain people over the years, the amount of funds that have been allegedly lost through corruption still would not have been enough to buy and maintain the complete range of top of the line and brand new equipment you believe that we would otherwise have by now .

The initial cost of acquisition is not the same as the total cost of owning such equipment which requires significant increases in the regular budget to maintain and run them, ive talked about this many times before .

This is also one of the reasons why the US isn't simply handing us more advance equipment as it would be irresponsible and wasteful for their part to give such weapons to a country that does not have the budget to maintain them .

The 2011 budget for defence is the first ive seen if followed through that somewhat comes close to fulfilling the criteria of sustaining new acquisitions .

In any case this is all moot as modernisation would automatically include the purchase of some second hand equipment as part of the necessary interim steps that would lead over time to having more modern equipment across the board, the fact that they are purchasing these things amongst other things is actually the first real sign of modernisation .

Like i said anyone who says "brand new or nothing" can not be taken seriously !, people who say this like i have said are either blind to reality or are basically playing to the gallery and hold cinical partisan interests above the actual interest of defending the country .

What you were trying to emphasize here is a delusional day dreamer, and i'm not. 2nd mistake you made is that i am not a child anymore in case gusto mokong insultuhin sana.

Lastly, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figured out what really happened to the AFP's modernization fund specially now they admitted their stupid acts. Also, the philippines were the least affected by the asian financial flu. Asl former sen Mercado how much money he got from cancelling those procurements of naval vessels and MRF's. :cheers:

Nothing new nor surprising but I'm still posting it anyway. Funny comments though.

AFP lagging in developing fortifications in Spratlys
By Jaime Laude (The Philippine Star) Updated March 19, 2011 12:00 AM Comments (54) View comments

MANILA, Philippines - The Philippine military is lagging behind China, Vietnam and Malaysia in developing fortifications in the disputed Spratly Islands in the South China Sea.

In a report, the Armed Forces of the Philippines said claimant countries – except Taiwan and Brunei – have strengthened fortifications in the islets and shoals in the Spratlys.

From one islet it began occupying in 1984, Malaysia now has troops on five islets.

On the Malaysian-occupied Swallow Reef, there is now a 1,200-meter runway as well as a naval station in an island known as Layang-Layang, which had been a dive resort for tourists.

The runway can reportedly accommodate heavy civilian and military transport planes. The airfield is only an hour’s flight from Kota Kinabalu and is considered vital to defending Malaysia’s claim.

“Its air bases located at Kota Kinabalu and Labuan could serve as staging points to launch their sophisticated F-18 and Russian-MIG 29 Fulcrum. This is not to mention that Malaysian destroyers have mid- and long-range surface-to-surface missile,” the military report read.

The report also cited Malaysian’s plan to procure new Sukhoi SU-35 aircraft from Russia.

The reports also said surveillance photos taken during routine patrols over the Kalayaan Group showed Beijing’s steady military buildup in the area despite its being a signatory to the 2002 Declaration on the Conduct of Parties in the South China Sea.

Latest surveillance photographs taken in 2010 showed different machine gun emplacement as well as additional communications antennae. Naval vessels have also been anchored in Chigua Reef.

Military developments were also monitored in Cuarteron Reef, while Fiery Cross Reef is serving as communications and oceanographic research center.

“China has also intensified its military activities indicative of its improving military capabilities,” the report said.

Vietnam has also made impressive improvements in their occupied islands, with new communication equipment in Sin Cow (Rurok Island) installed last year. There are also single storey buildings in Allison Reef and in other sites such as Barque Canada Reef, Discovery Great Reef, Petley Reef, Pigeon Reef, and in East Reef.

New buildings have also sprouted in the Namyit Island.

Numerous structures – including bunkers – have also been detected in Central London Reef.

“Our structures still remain in a makeshift style with extremely depleted number of personnel,” the report stressed.

Defenders of Philippine-held territories stand no chance against the firepower of other claimants in the event of a shooting war, the report stated.

This is the reason why the Philippines relies very much on the diplomatic approach, according to the report.

The Western Command (Wescom), which has operational jurisdiction over the Spratlys, is urgently requesting immediate repairs of the runway on Pag-Asa island, the biggest of several islands with Filipino troops. The airfield, since its establishment in the 1970s, has never undergone major repair.

Wescom officials said repair and rehabilitation of Rancudo Air Field must be done as soon as possible so as not to allow soil erosion to inflict further damage on the runway.

“Repairs should be configured in such away that it can accommodate heavy transport aircraft as well as fighter planes comparable to that in Lagos Island of the Vietnamese and Swallow Reef of Malaysia,” a senior Wescom official who declined to be named said. – With Pia Lee-Brago


http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=667589&publicationSubCategoryId=63

^^Mukhang wala nang pagasa tlaga ang pilipinas, magugunaw na ang mundo wala parin silang political will at disiplina sa paghawak ng mga pera sa pang upgrade ngAFP arsenals. :lol:

parang gusto ko ng mag develop ng weapon....na galing sa hanging....tipong utot bomb ang tawag....tapos wipe out lahat ng ilong ng makakasinghot.....:lol::lol::lol: baka yun ang magpasikat sa pinas....:lol:

What ever happened sa iba pang jet trainer ng PAF that was supposed to handed over?
New here so just want some updates. Thanks

Is this true?

RP stages Spratlys war games with Malaysia, US
By Mario J. Mallari

03/10/2011

The Philippines and Malaysia will be holding joint exercises in the South China Sea next week amid the “tension” brought about by last week’s harassment of a Philippine exploration vessel by two Chinese patrol boats at the disputed Spratly group of islands in Palawan.

There is also an exercise slated between the RP and United States military 11 days after the MalPhi Laut, military officials said.

Navy spokesman Capt. Giovanni Carlo Bacordo, however, maintained that the March 16 to 26 MalPhi Laut, the annual bilateral naval exercise between the two navies, is not a response to the March 2 incident at the Reed Bank on the disputed Spratlys islands.

“It has nothing to do at all because this was planned six months before,” he said.

“It was way before the Reed Bank incident…it is not being done because of what happened. It’s not. The planning activity between the Royal Malaysian Navy and the Philippine Navy started second semester of 2010 then the final planning conference happened fourth quarter of 2010 and then now the implementation,” Bacordo added.

He said the 10-day joint naval exercises is the 14th of such activity which is hosted alternately by the Philippine Navy and the Royal Malaysian Navy.

“The purpose of such activity is to strengthen the relationship, enhance mutual cooperation

http://www.tribuneonline.org/headlines/20110310hed3.html

Is it even plausible to hold it in the Spratly's? :lol:

^^
That's if they have the balls to do it

pa-war games war games pa ang bulok na PN :lol:

^^ di na nahiya sa mga naka tuwangwang na lumang barko,... tsk2 wala pang air defense, wala pang eroplano,... cguro mga paltik din mga armas tapos yung US at Malaysia makabagong armas dinala, at mga high tech pa,... :ohno: haiz,...

^^
Oh well.... ganun talaga.

We are not moving forward, We're moving backwards. That is main reason why we remain in backwater compared with our Asean neighbors.

AFP : Antiquated Forces of the Philippines

^^ that's what our Officials wants to be,... an backward country, as long as their money is moving forward,... even my grandfather couldn't believe how Singapore became more advanced than us when in fact Singapore used to be like a poor island before,... with only few commerce and fishing is the main industry of SG,... as well as South Korea, used to be one of the poorest country at that times,... and now look what they've achieved,... Philippines should be even more progressive and powerful than them by now if only the system havn't gone crazy,...

^^
Oh well.... ganun talaga.

We are not moving forward, We're moving backwards. That is main reason why we remain in backwater compared with our Asean neighbors.

AFP : Antiquated Forces of the Philippines

Puedeng iconvert sa National museum ang AFP


Kaya nga I doubt the authenticity of the report. Siguro OK lang kung US ang ka-war games kasi sanay na sila makakakita ng mala museum na gamit ng AFP, pero Malaysia....ewan ko lang. :lol:

^^ di na nahiya sa mga naka tuwangwang na lumang barko,... tsk2 wala pang air defense, wala pang eroplano,... cguro mga paltik din mga armas tapos yung US at Malaysia makabagong armas dinala, at mga high tech pa,... :ohno: haiz,...

yun din binunganga ni pnoy....na mas matanda pa raw sa kanya ang mga barko ng PN..at babaguhin ito....tapos bibili sya ng 40+ years old na ukay ukay na cutter ng mga kano.....hay....hanggang bunganga lang talaga ang panggulo na ito....:lol:

Fire breathing prick.

China's military dominance over Spratlys affecting international trade - report



By Jaime Laude
(The Philippine Star)
Updated March 20, 2011


MANILA, Philippines - China’s military dominance over the hotly-contested Spratly Islands will affect the free flow of international trade in the area classified by local and foreign military planners as a strategic link between the world’s east and west economies, according to a report by local military strategists.

“The area (Spratlys) is a major passage of goods since it straddles between the Indian Ocean and the Pacific Ocean which link the greater economies, both in the east and west. By this, a huge portion of the world’s economy is highly dependent on the free flow of goods in this area,” the report said.

On top of this, the seabed in that part of the South China Sea is believed to contain and hold the world’s largest oil deposit, which China wants to have overall control of, the report said.

The Philippines, Vietnam, Malaysia, Taiwan and Brunei have overlapping territorial claims in the area with China laying claim to the entire South China Sea as its territory.

“Control of this archipelago means control of sea lanes from Persian Gulf to South China and the Pacific,” the local military strategists said.

Of the six claimant countries, China and Vietnam, despite being signatories to the Conduct of Parties in the South China Sea, have been monitored to be continuously beefing up their military presence in the area.

Aerial surveillance conducted by Philippine Air Force (PAF) planes have photographed new Chinese and Vietnamese buildings as well as military bunkers and heavy machine guns.

On the other hand, Malaysia is now laying claim to five islets from the previous single island it had occupied. Kuala Lumpur has also converted one of their occupied islets into a dive resort.

This island dive resort, locally known as Layang-Layang, has a 1,200-meter runway that can accommodate heavy civilian and Malaysian military transport planes.

On the other hand, the Philippines’ overall defense stance over its territory in the Kalayaan Island Group (KIG) had been steadily retrogressing, relying mainly on diplomacy to resolve any conflict that once in a while occurs in the area, the most recent of which was last March 7 when two Chinese gunboats, Zhongguo 71 and Zhongguo 75, harassed MV Vertias Voyager commissioned to conduct seismic research in the Reed Bank Basin.

The Philippines sent a diplomatic protest to the Chinese government, but it simply ignored the protests, maintaining their territorial claim over the Reed Bank Area.

^^ It doesn't take an Albert Einstein to figure out what China wants.

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On the other hand, I wonder how the Libyan strike will affect the opinions on Obama. If I remember right, Obama was against the war on Iraq

^^ It doesn't take an Albert Einstein to figure out what China wants.

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On the other hand, I wonder how the Libyan strike will affect the opinions on Obama. If I remember right, Obama was against the war on Iraq

Obama is warning Khaddafy. Tomahawk missiles on standby. British and French ready to strike. They are eager to eliminate some of the worlds worst international pricks.

^^ Honestly, I do have mixed feelings with the military intervention. While I believe Ghadaffi has to go, I think it's too hasty. Add to that, it's not only Ghaddaffi killing his own people. The same things (to a lesser extent) happening in Bahrain...and Syria

Me thinks that the world should let the Arabs kill themselves...esp when they're not a threat to any western nation. If only NATO could see China's muscle flexing....

I'm afraid this is another Iraqesque war. The US should concentrate on crushing Al Qaeda and keeping a keen eye on the butiki...este red dragon. :lol:

^^gunboats ha tsk ang gulo talaga ng mga media sa pilipinas di mo malaman kung ano ang totoo talaga.... :nuts:

^^ Honestly, I do have mixed feelings with the military intervention. While I believe Ghadaffi has to go, I think it's too hasty. Add to that, it's not only Ghaddaffi killing his own people. The same things (to a lesser extent) happening in Bahrain...and Syria

Me thinks that the world should let the Arabs kill themselves...esp when they're not a threat to any western nation. If only NATO could see China's muscle flexing....

I'm afraid this is another Iraqesque war. The US should concentrate on crushing Al Qaeda and keeping a keen eye on the butiki...este red dragon. :lol:

Syria and Bahrain's monarchs and leaders are no where near a-hole Khadaffy- a avid sponsor of international terrorism.

The vicious clown should go.

On the other hand, the red dragon is testing the waters if it can take the new role as an international bully like the US and pretentious regional bully like Australia (specially during the time of PM Howard).

^^ The butiki eh, dragon pala, is determined. It's forging alliances with Iran, Venezuela, NK, Cuba, and now Libya...

I'm afraid this Libyan strike would turn the blinds to China even more. Hence, solidifying its ambition to be the next international bully. Bully replacing another bully. Doesn't solve the problem. The more the west do stupid things, the more it is "legitimizing" China's aspiration to be a superpower

Fire breathing prick.

China's military dominance over Spratlys affecting international trade - report



By Jaime Laude
(The Philippine Star)
Updated March 20, 2011


MANILA, Philippines - China’s military dominance over the hotly-contested Spratly Islands will affect the free flow of international trade in the area classified by local and foreign military planners as a strategic link between the world’s east and west economies, according to a report by local military strategists.

“The area (Spratlys) is a major passage of goods since it straddles between the Indian Ocean and the Pacific Ocean which link the greater economies, both in the east and west. By this, a huge portion of the world’s economy is highly dependent on the free flow of goods in this area,” the report said.

On top of this, the seabed in that part of the South China Sea is believed to contain and hold the world’s largest oil deposit, which China wants to have overall control of, the report said.

The Philippines, Vietnam, Malaysia, Taiwan and Brunei have overlapping territorial claims in the area with China laying claim to the entire South China Sea as its territory.

“Control of this archipelago means control of sea lanes from Persian Gulf to South China and the Pacific,” the local military strategists said.

Of the six claimant countries, China and Vietnam, despite being signatories to the Conduct of Parties in the South China Sea, have been monitored to be continuously beefing up their military presence in the area.

Aerial surveillance conducted by Philippine Air Force (PAF) planes have photographed new Chinese and Vietnamese buildings as well as military bunkers and heavy machine guns.

On the other hand, Malaysia is now laying claim to five islets from the previous single island it had occupied. Kuala Lumpur has also converted one of their occupied islets into a dive resort.

This island dive resort, locally known as Layang-Layang, has a 1,200-meter runway that can accommodate heavy civilian and Malaysian military transport planes.

On the other hand, the Philippines’ overall defense stance over its territory in the Kalayaan Island Group (KIG) had been steadily retrogressing, relying mainly on diplomacy to resolve any conflict that once in a while occurs in the area, the most recent of which was last March 7 when two Chinese gunboats, Zhongguo 71 and Zhongguo 75, harassed MV Vertias Voyager commissioned to conduct seismic research in the Reed Bank Basin.

The Philippines sent a diplomatic protest to the Chinese government, but it simply ignored the protests, maintaining their territorial claim over the Reed Bank Area.
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law, truth and justice


putang ina ng mga heneral na yan sila ang may kasalanan kong bakit di makabili ng mga modern military assets.kinukurakot kasi ang pera na pang modernization.kaya ayan puro protesta na lang ang mga kupal at nanginginig sa takot sa mga missile boat ng china.:lol::lol::lol::lol:

^^ This has been posted earlier :lol:

hindi lang general ang may kasalanan pati mga politiko, tinitipid masyado ang budget. gusto kasi ata magdonate ibang bansa sa atin ng basura nila.

isa pa yang mga komunista. tutol sa military modernization

The more the west do stupid things, the more it is "legitimizing" China's aspiration to be a superpower

How many times did the West put the whole world in peril?

Many times.

Stupid West.

Hirap sa modernization ang military dahil sigurado yung mga party list group na mga yan at mga studyante sa UP ay magrereklamo nanaman dahil sasabihin nila na wala namang kwenta ang pag gagamitan tapos ang media naman syempre ay gagawa ng mga negative stories about military.

and pnoy's answer to china's muscle flexing? buy an ukay ukay cutter from dear uncle sam.....:ohno: what a brilliant move...

^^ This has been posted earlier :lol:

hindi lang general ang may kasalanan pati mga politiko, tinitipid masyado ang budget. gusto kasi ata magdonate ibang bansa sa atin ng basura nila.

isa pa yang mga komunista. tutol sa military modernization

^^ part na yan sa Modernization yung Donation hehe kasi kung i-reretire na nila yung 60 years old na mga kagamitan papalitan naman ito ng mga 50 years old na donated stuffs,... edi, mas modern yung 50 kesa 60,... :lol:

Hirap sa modernization ang military dahil sigurado yung mga party list group na mga yan at mga studyante sa UP ay magrereklamo nanaman dahil sasabihin nila na wala namang kwenta ang pag gagamitan tapos ang media naman syempre ay gagawa ng mga negative stories about military.

^^ eh ano pa?? syempre gusto nila manalo yung NPA's sa laban kaya natural,... tututol talaga sila sa mga modernization para hindi lumakas AFP natin,... di na sana pinapayagang tumakbo mga party list na to kasi Rebellion itself is illegal,...

and pnoy's answer to china's muscle flexing? buy an ukay ukay cutter from dear uncle sam.....:ohno: what a brilliant move...

^^ That's how smart he is,... :)

korekek.....sabihin na natin na hindi sya ang nagisip nun nirecommend lang sa kanya.....por dies por siento....isipin mo na lang na ang edad ng barko halos sing edad na nya....tinanggap pa ang recommendation...hindi ba nya naalala ng kinantyawan pa nya ang PN na mas matanda pa sa kanya ang mga barko nito...yun pala ganun di pala gagawin nya.....kung di ba naman isa't kalahating ewan ang mamang yan....:bash:

korekek.....sabihin na natin na hindi sya ang nagisip nun nirecommend lang sa kanya.....por dies por siento....isipin mo na lang na ang edad ng barko halos sing edad na nya....tinanggap pa ang recommendation...hindi ba nya naalala ng kinantyawan pa nya ang PN na mas matanda pa sa kanya ang mga barko nito...yun pala ganun di pala gagawin nya.....kung di ba naman isa't kalahating ewan ang mamang yan....:bash:

Talagang bopol itong presidente ng pilipinas, di nya binibigyan ng priority ang total security ng bansang pinas. anak talaga sya ng kupal tulad ng kanyang mga ninunong intsik, palibhasa siguro nakipag deal sya sa gobyerno ng china! noynoy is a fuckhead retarded! :bash:

^^ he just don't know how to handle a country yet,... yung mga nag sasabing "wala nga siyang nagawa sa pagka senador, ano pa kaya pagka presidente??" actually makes sense, look whats happeing now,... Military, Economy and stability,... i would grade it "Low"... kung pinagmamayabang niya yung improvement ng bansa in terms of economy obviously,... mga sinimulan ito ni little evil Gloria,... advantage ni Noy2, lesser chance of corruption,... disadvantage,... doesn't know how to manage and lead a state,...

korekek ka dyan natumbok mo.....nag oojt ang mama at tayo ang pinagpapraktisan nya....e nagkataon pang slow learner....patay tayo...para tayong na dilubyo....

di talaga bibili ang arm forces ng mga bago kasi nag aantay sila ng mga junks na donation at minsan ay may bayad at mahal pa,parang ang nangyayari ang pilipinas ay isang pulubi na nagaantay sa labas ng mcdonalds at inaantay ang mga tira-tirang kinain ng mga kano at gagawing pag-pag :lol::lol::lol: ano ba yan?mas di hamak naman na maganda nag central business district natin sa bangladesh pero mas maganda at moderno pa ang military assets nila kesa sa pilipinas.samantalang ang mga bangali sa saudi ay namamalimos lang sa kalye at mga basurero ang sahod ay napaka baba kumpara sa mga pinoy na may mga kotse at magaganda ang mga gamit sa katawan,puro mga signature pa.bakit ang military assets natin au bulok.haayyyy nakaka frustrate talaga ang military natin.:ohno::ohno::ohno::ohno:

^^ Göteborg class corvette

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ae/HMS_G%C3%A4vle.JPG/800px-HMS_G%C3%A4vle.JPG

according to Wikipedia that the Swedish Navy is actually selling 2 of these ships,...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_navy

hope that the Philippine navy will grab an opportunity to purchase these ships,... though its just expensive than the Hamilton class but performance wise,... i think this one is better,... only... it cant carry a helicopter but we have the Hamilton for that anyway,... :)

korekek ka dyan natumbok mo.....nag oojt ang mama at tayo ang pinagpapraktisan nya....e nagkataon pang slow learner....patay tayo...para tayong na dilubyo....

^^ yeah, your right,... hehe mama at papa yung nakapanalo sa kanya,... i would like to emphasize na iba talaga yung anak sa magulang,.. though depending on how the child will follow and be inspired by his parents,... unfortunately, Noy2 is far from his Parents,... may bisyo, walang ginagawa, and parang walang kaalam-alam,... talagang nag OOJT lang siya,...

di talaga bibili ang arm forces ng mga bago kasi nag aantay sila ng mga junks na donation at minsan ay may bayad at mahal pa,parang ang nangyayari ang pilipinas ay isang pulubi na nagaantay sa labas ng mcdonalds at inaantay ang mga tira-tirang kinain ng mga kano at gagawing pag-pag :lol::lol::lol: ano ba yan?mas di hamak naman na maganda nag central business district natin sa bangladesh pero mas maganda at moderno pa ang military assets nila kesa sa pilipinas.samantalang ang mga bangali sa saudi ay namamalimos lang sa kalye at mga basurero ang sahod ay napaka baba kumpara sa mga pinoy na may mga kotse at magaganda ang mga gamit sa katawan,puro mga signature pa.bakit ang military assets natin au bulok.haayyyy nakaka frustrate talaga ang military natin.:ohno::ohno::ohno::ohno:

^^ thats why we have to change our financial policy,.. unahin una natin yung peace and order sa ating Sovereign State,... kasi, if low and security ng isang bansa,... investors will not actually invest their money in that certain place,...

^^ airforce natin yung pinaka kulelat sa lahat,... haiz,... kelan ba tayong magkakaroon muli ng combat aircrafts,... 2011 na, pero yung promise,... nanatiling promise parin,... :ohno:

and pnoy's answer to china's muscle flexing? buy an ukay ukay cutter from dear uncle sam.....:ohno: what a brilliant move...

Bakit hindi natin tanungin yung mga generals na pinabusog ni Evil G at yung mga nagdaang administrasyon na nagsimula pa kay Marcos? Iyan ba ang nagawa ng sampung taong tuloy tuloy na pag-unlad? :lol:

Ngayon palang tayo nagsisimula pag huli na ang lahat diba?

Actually, wala na talagang magagawa kung hindi magdasal at umasa. :lol:

Bakit hindi natin tanungin yung mga generals na pinabusog ni Evil G at yung mga nagdaang administrasyon na nagsimula pa kay Marcos? Iyan ba ang nagawa ng sampung taong tuloy tuloy na pag-unlad? :lol:

Ngayon palang tayo nagsisimula pag huli na ang lahat diba?

Actually, wala na talagang magagawa kung hindi magdasal at umasa. :lol:

Isa sa mga malalakas na military ang Pilipinas nung panahon ni Marcos. Simula nung magkaroon ng Aquino(Cory) sa Malacanang ay bumagsak ang Pilipinas tapos lalo pa binatukan ang military dahil pinakawalan ni Cory Aquino si Joma.
Parang yung pagpapakawala ni pnoy kay Trillantes.

^^ Göteborg class corvette

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ae/HMS_G%C3%A4vle.JPG/800px-HMS_G%C3%A4vle.JPG

according to Wikipedia that the Swedish Navy is actually selling 2 of these ships,...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_navy

hope that the Philippine navy will grab an opportunity to purchase these ships,... though its just expensive than the Hamilton class but performance wise,... i think this one is better,... only... it cant carry a helicopter but we have the Hamilton for that anyway,... :)

Shhhet man sana yan nalang yungbinili ng PN!! anak talaga ng kakupalan yang mga bulok na utak ng mga AFP! Mga inutil talaga! :bash:

Isa sa mga malalakas na military ang Pilipinas nung panahon ni Marcos. Simula nung magkaroon ng Aquino(Cory) sa Malacanang ay bumagsak ang Pilipinas tapos lalo pa binatukan ang military dahil pinakawalan ni Cory Aquino si Joma.
Parang yung pagpapakawala ni pnoy kay Trillantes.

Linya ko ito uh hahaha! Korekek! Mga aquino talaga mga bulok ang utak at walang leadership! Tanga talaga magpaandar ng bansa, palibhasa napilitan lang si cory nun dahil wala nang gustong tumakbo sa pagka presidente..... actually sya ang may kasalanan ng lahat di si marcos! yes nasimulan ni marcos ang ibang mga kalokohan pero atleast sya merong ambition na ma retain ang kaunlaranng pinas kahit na kurap sya. itong mga aquino sinisise lahat sa mga marcoses, eh bakit di nila inayos ang problema nun? instead like what u said, pinakawalan pa nya sila joma kaya limalala ang gyera sa pinas laban sa mga komunista, tapos hindi pa nya pinagpatuloy ang parliamentary system na dapat makakaayos sa problema sa mindanao! tignan nyo ngayon, nagbabayad parin ang bawa pilipino sa mga kahirapan na nararansan nila dahil lang sa pagkakamali ng 1st aquino administration.... haaay buhay talaga.... :ohno:

Bakit hindi natin tanungin yung mga generals na pinabusog ni Evil G at yung mga nagdaang administrasyon na nagsimula pa kay Marcos? Iyan ba ang nagawa ng sampung taong tuloy tuloy na pag-unlad? :lol:

Ngayon palang tayo nagsisimula pag huli na ang lahat diba?

Actually, wala na talagang magagawa kung hindi magdasal at umasa. :lol:


itong panggok na evil gloria eh alam nating magaling sya sa economic strategy pero meron ding mga kalokohang ginagawa...... isa rin syang nagpasimuno sa mga kurapsyon.... sana kung maayos lang talaga ni noynoy ang lahat na ito, sa military, education, healthcare, population explotion, and employment problems. ito na ang pagkakataon nyang maredeem sana ang kanilang sirang pangalan sa mga pilipinong tulad ko. :lol:

Isa sa mga malalakas na military ang Pilipinas nung panahon ni Marcos. Simula nung magkaroon ng Aquino(Cory) sa Malacanang ay bumagsak ang Pilipinas tapos lalo pa binatukan ang military dahil pinakawalan ni Cory Aquino si Joma.
Parang yung pagpapakawala ni pnoy kay Trillantes.

Sino ba talaga ang may pera? Si Pilipinas ba o si Marcos noong naupo si Cory?

Simple lang - no money, no defense. Nasagot na kung bakit humina ang AFP. :lol:

Sino ba talaga ang may pera? Si Pilipinas ba o si Marcos noong naupo si Cory?

Simple lang - no money, no defense. Nasagot na kung bakit humina ang AFP. :lol:

Ano ka they were gonna buy new naval vessels and F16 during the aquino administration. They planned it right after the Dec. '89 kudeta to replace those lost and damaged PAF aircrafts, and part of the ongoing mini modernization plan that were started by the marcos administration. Like what i said earlier, the philippines had enough money to do it its just that they were stolen kaya wala tayong nakita, walang progress... But to think ha, they only decided to do it after 3 yrs and 7 rebellions since 1986. And i dont think they were gonna do it if Honasan did not push the aquino administration to prioritize the AFP as well. That's how they thought that Corazon was actually an idiot, that's why they tried to topple her so many times.

Ano ka they were gonna buy new naval vessels and F16 during the aquino administration. They planned it right after the Dec. '89 kudeta to replace those lost and damaged PAF aircrafts, and part of the ongoing mini modernization plan that were started by the marcos administration. Like what i said earlier, the philippines had enough money to do it its just that they were stolen kaya wala tayong nakita, walang progress...

Hanggang planning lang. Total, everybody is free to dream diba? :lol:

The reality is, the government got no moolah to fund these projects - Marcos had them in his Swiss accounts. Hindi priority ang defense projects.

Financial problems were also the reason why there were rolling blackouts throughout the country that forced the succeeding administration to compromise national interests by selling the power plant assets and their rights to IPP's (Independent Power Producers) of the country because of lack of funding. Kaya doon nga nagkakaroon ng advocates na i privatize yung mga government-owned assets diba?

Look what happened up to this day, puro nalang reklamo sa pagtaas ng kuryente ang naririnig natin.

^^tapos nang nakaupo na si FVR, kala ng mga junior officers including their ring leader Honasan eh aasenso na ang AFP and would finally modernize it by boosting the defense budget and established the 15 yr US $16B dollar modernization plan, and viola! These freaking aholes did it again! It was all combination of mismanagement of bases conversion revenues, and corrupting the taxpayer's money that were meant to continue the plan. Yung "pabaon" nayan di na naputol ever since, lahat nalunon sa bisyong yan kaya di na matuloy tuloy ito... Kaya hanggang sa nandyan yang mga kupal naya, walang mangyayari sa AFP na inikala natin na finally masusunod na yung mga Horizon 1 2 3 nayan, tignan nyo 2011 and almost half way na to 2012 at wala ng nangyayari, pati sa binunganga nilang matatapos na ang gyera laban sa mga rebelde by 2010-2011 well guess what happened!

Hanggang planning lang. Total, everybody is free to dream diba? :lol:

The reality is, the government got no moolah to fund these projects - Marcos had them in his Swiss accounts. Hindi priority ang defense projects.

Financial problems were also the reason why there were rolling blackouts throughout the country that forced the succeeding administration to compromise national interests by selling the power plant assets and their rights to IPP's (Independent Power Producers) of the country because of lack of funding. Kaya doon nga nagkakaroon ng advocates na i privatize yung mga government-owned assets diba?

Look what happened up to this day, puro nalang reklamo sa pagtaas ng kuryente ang naririnig natin.

Yes its true nga there are maybe almost atleast $50B dollar lost philippine money that are unaccounted for until now.

But there are 2 things that we all need to know and understand some logics why we dont see any major progress in the defense ministry of the philippines:

1. The philippine economy actually grew since 1987, and despite of these stolen money that are still missing, they were able to put aside some percentage (1.7%) from the total GDP that will be directed to the modernization of the AFP. The 1.7% were actually a very small amount BUT ENOUGH to buy half a squadron of F16 (during the 1st Aquino administration) with its maintenance cost package that was to be delivered by 1995. There were also plans to buy or lease some US or french frigates:


Military spending in 1988 totaled 14.14 billion pesos (for value of the peso--see Glossary), or US$680 million, about 1.7 percent of the country's gross national product (GNP--see Glossary). The 1988 budget represented a greater than 50 percent increase in real spending for defense (adjusted for inflation) over 1985, the last full year Marcos was in office. Defense spending as a proportion of national government expenditures also grew during Aquino's tenure, from a 1985 low of 7.7 percent, to 9.1 percent in 1989. Still, the military's share of the national budget, like total military spending, did not approach the peaks reached during the Moro wars of the 1970s. In 1979 the Philippines spent more than P17 billion (US$806 million) in comparable 1988 pesos for defense, a figure that represented almost 17 percent of the government's budget.
http://www.country-data.com/cgi-bin/query/r-10516.html



Now here is the obvious logic, these people will never plan this modernization if they didn't have enough money to use in the first place or projected revenues from the national budget to fund it.

2. And this is what happened, the next thing we know these money were mishandled, and stolen by the AFP freaking high ranking officers backed by stupid government officials from malacanyang palace. THAT IS WHY WE NEVER SEEN ANY PROGRESS IN THE AFP. And then what these asshols gonna say to the public? "WE DONT HAVE ENOUGH MONEY"!

I hope everyone here would finally understand it why we shouldn't use that BS statement. Anyone says that will fall to the "brain washed" category.

:nuts:

^^And these are the different variants of F16 with it's total cost of a squadron or even just half of it including the maintenance cost that the philippines could have purchased if the defense budget were never mishandled or stolen:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-16_Fighting_Falcon_variants

PH's laws is stupid, we should have death sentences, even if we prove it or even uncover the whole story behind it none of them would panic, it'll just be a trial of publicity and if they get jailed it's alright, they've probably plundered more than what they're allowed. :/

To a small earner like me, living behind bars with multi-millions of pesos in account would be like, I dunno? living in your own small kingdom, haha, and it's as if they'll gonna get jailed on "public" jails. Poor madlang people. :/

And then to continue that given article from my previous post, it's a good read actually:

Budget figures do not include United States security assistance, which represented a substantial portion of total spending on the Philippine military. United States military aid increased significantly after Aquino came to power, accounting for 80 percent of military spending on procurement, operations, and maintenance in 1989. United States military aid that year amounted to US$127.6 million. Most of the assistance--US$125 million--was provided as a grant under the Military Assistance Program whereas the US$2.6 million balance funded training for Filipinos under the United States International Military Education and Training Program. During the 1988 review of the Military Bases Agreement, the United States pledged its best efforts to increase grant aid to the Philippine military to US$200 million annually in 1990 and 1991.

The thrust of United States security assistance efforts in the late 1980s was to help the Philippine armed forces better combat the communist insurgency. Improved tactical mobility and communications and better equipped soldiers were top priorities. Between 1986 and 1989, the United States sent the Philippines almost 2,900 military vehicles, nearly 50 helicopters, more than 1,650 radios, approximately 225,000 military uniforms, and more than 150,000 pairs of combat boots. Other assistance items included assorted infantry weapons and ammunition and medical equipment.

The Self-Reliant Defense Posture (SRDP) program, initiated in 1974, took the development of a domestic defense industry as its objective. Defense officials contracted SRDP projects with the government arsenal and local manufacturers, encouraging the use of indigenous raw materials and production capacity. Projects included domestic production of small arms, radios, and assorted ammunition. One of the most significant SRDP operations was the manufacture of the M-16A1 rifle under license from Colt Industries, an American company. According to a 1988 statement by the Philippine armed forces chief of staff, the SRDP not only increased Philippine self-reliance, but also cut costs, provided jobs, and saved much-needed foreign-exchange funds.

Despite growing budgets and increased foreign military aid, the armed forces still was described in 1989 as one of the most poorly funded militaries in Asia. Philippine defense spending on a per capita and per soldier basis remained the lowest of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) countries, despite an active communist insurgency. One study of the military concluded that the armed forces suffered from major resource problems. The author cited serious shortages of vehicles, helicopters, radios, basic infantry equipment, and spare parts. Food, medicine, and clothing also were said to be in chronically short supply. Shortages were compounded by an inefficient logistics system hobbled by red tape and corruption. Soldiers' poor living and working conditions often were mentioned as underlying factors in the military's discipline problems. Top AFP leaders acknowledged many of these shortcomings and were attempting to correct the mismanagement of resources.

Plans in 1990 called for modernizing the military, particularly the air force and navy--services whose forces had received relatively little funding because of the army's extended counterinsurgency campaign. Many of the navy's major ships and craft were World War II-era, and the aging fleet was increasingly difficult to maintain. Modernization plans called for phasing out inefficient ships, refitting others, and acquiring more patrol craft. Using United States military aid, the navy contracted in 1989 for thirty-five fast patrol craft, thirty of which were to be assembled in the Philippines by 1997. The air force inventory, described as one of the most primitive in the region, likewise was to be enhanced by major purchases under a ten-year modernization scheme. The United States was scheduled to deliver twenty-nine MD-520 attack helicopters between 1990 and 1992. The air force also was hoping to add two squadrons of modern fighters such as the United States F-16 to its fleet of nine F-5s.

Data as of June 1991
http://www.country-data.com/cgi-bin/query/r-10516.html


And where's the money?

And that after the marcoses left proving that the corruption is still rampant and never learned their past mistakes.. We got enough money to DO IT! Just need a little bit of honesty, POLITICAL WILL, and smart moves to follow the plans. And yet the government today is still very dishonest, unreliable, AND freaking unrestrained fuckers.

So indeed. :no:

PH's laws is stupid, we should have death sentences, even if we prove it or even uncover the whole story behind it none of them would panic, it'll just be a trial of publicity and if they get jailed it's alright, they've probably plundered more than what they're allowed. :/

To a small earner like me, living behind bars with multi-millions of pesos in account would be like, I dunno? living in your own small kingdom, haha, and it's as if they'll gonna get jailed on "public" jails. Poor madlang people. :/


And this is agreeable. With the much anticipated population booming in the philippines because of these fucking bishops and RRC, the country actually need some population reduction system like DEATH PENALTY for the assholes.

How many times did the West put the whole world in peril?

Many times.

Stupid West.

Hence, the hasty intervention on Libya is stupid. Not only it foster terrorism against the West and its allies from the ME, it also "legitimizes" China's aspiration of superpower status, therefore giving it more reason to bully and eventually dictate on its neighbors.

The West should let the Arabs kill each other. They have been killing each other for centuries, anyway

^^We shouldn't be talking about libya here though its an interesting topic.

^^ Sensya na po :lol:

And this is agreeable. With the much anticipated population booming in the philippines because of these fucking bishops and RRC, the country actually need some population reduction system like DEATH PENALTY for the assholes.

Priests should not engage in sex except with little boys

Population growth = more little boys :lol:

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Just kidding ...

Anyway, we should immediately engage into true modernization. We are decades lagging compared to our Asean brothers.

Priests should not engage in sex except with little boys

Population growth = more little boys :lol:

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Just kidding ...

Anyway, we should immediately engage into true modernization. We are decades lagging compared to our Asean brothers.

Actually that would do it. :lol:

And in regards to your comment, just like what other people says, make the defense procurement transparent so the public could monitor it. That way will ultimately discourage these unrestrained fuckers from stealing the money.

Gaano kaya kalaki epekto yung pagsabog ng Mt. Pinatubo sa economy and military ng Pilipinas?

Gaano kaya kalaki epekto yung pagsabog ng Mt. Pinatubo sa economy and military ng Pilipinas?

Not much. Lalo na sa AFP? Wala. US base lang talaga ang naapektuhan ng husto dun, and the residents who usd to live by the surrounding area of mt. pinatubo.

Let us compare the modernization program of the AFP to Thailand:


Thailand Navy Prepare a Feasibility Study Project for the Purchase of Two Submarines


17 Maret 2011
Source:http://defense-studies.blogspot.com/2011/03/thailand-navy-prepare-feasibility-study.html



http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Reoh2n_h1H0/TYHkb4mhuXI/AAAAAAAAIvU/dk5eiatIuGg/s400/U209%2BKorea_MP.jpg

Thailand Navy expects to buy two used Type 209 submarines (photo : Militaryphotos)

TSAMTO, March 17. Thai Navy expects to buy two used ones submarines, which cost is estimated at 6-7 billion baht (199-232 million dollars), reports the Bangkok Post.

Command of the Navy has decided to submit a plan for the country's government for approval. For this purpose a special commission that would develop a feasibility study for the project.

Detailed specifications of the submarines were not disclosed, but it is expected that the supplier will be one of the European countries, most likely in Germany. The South Korean government, for its part, last year, Thailand has proposed two German U-boat project "Type-209.

It should be noted that the command of the Navy of Thailand seeks to introduce into the fleet of submarines for over 10 years, but the program has not yet been implemented due to lack of necessary funds.

Navy Command emphasizes the importance of the acquisition of diesel-electric submarines in the current phase. The structure of Thai Navy submarines have never entered. At the same time, armed with neighboring States Navy has a large number of submarines. Moreover, a number of countries in the region have already adopted programs to modernize the submarine fleet.

Thus, the Navy of Malaysia under the signed contract in 2002, received two submarine class "Scorpene". Singapore Navy implemented a program of modernization of the two ex-Swedish submarine class "Archer." Vietnam signed an agreement with Russia on the purchase of six diesel-electric submarines of Project 636 Kilo. Indonesia, which already has two submarines, the Type-209 ", continues to seek funding sources for project procurement in the next few years, two submarines in the Republic of Korea, or Russia.

According to the Thai Navy Commander Admiral Kamtorna Fumhirana (Kamthorn Phumhiran), after the feasibility study project, the government must decide on the allocation of funds for the purchase.

This project is part of a 10-year plan for reforming the Armed Forces. The admiral also said the need of acquiring new frigates to replace the operation for 15-30 years old ships, and existing fleet must undergo repairs and upgrades.

In addition to the Navy, the training of similar proposals for modernization of weapons are command the Army and Air Force.
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So far our corrupt and moronic AFP generals got us a rickety and obsolete Hamilton Cutter from our good "friend" the US.

This is modernization to a syndicate (PMA graduate AFP corrupt Generals like Gen. Garcia, Ligot and Angelo Reyes and their PMA and AFP supporters gang)run AFP.

I pity our brave and patriotic and upright generals, officers and ordinary soldiers.

babasahin lang natin yan, dyan tayo magaling magbasa ng good news ng iba, napag-iwanan na talaga ang ating AFP.:ohno::ohno:

submarines? Marcos time pa ata yan, tayo kahit MRV, wala..

Not much. Lalo na sa AFP? Wala. US base lang talaga ang naapektuhan ng husto dun, and the residents who usd to live by the surrounding area of mt. pinatubo.

eh di ba dahil dyan nasira ung mga F-8 natin??
tsaka ung PNR north line naapektuhan kaya eventually nagsara na..

Not much. Lalo na sa AFP? Wala. US base lang talaga ang naapektuhan ng husto dun, and the residents who usd to live by the surrounding area of mt. pinatubo.

Gaano kaya kalaki epekto yung pagsabog ng Mt. Pinatubo sa economy and military ng Pilipinas?

it hampered the development of the Central Luzon region, which accounted for 10% of the total GDP.. aside from the billions of $ in damage to farmlands, infrastructure, schools, hospitals, reforestation programs.. in fact, PHL GDP shrunk as an effect of the Pinatubo eruption, from 5% down to 3%

aside from destroying valuable PAF assets like the F-8 Crusader based in Basa Air Base

USCGC Hamilton is tentatively scheduled to decommission March 28th, 2011 in San Diego. The 44 year old Hamilton will become a yet to be named frigate in the Philippine Navy replacing the 1943-built BRP Rajah Humabon (ex-USS Atherton) in service.


^^
yeah finally we have our new frigate
but its pretty old, that's in cold war :lol::lol:
at least we have 1 addition to our inventory :cheers2:

^^ hahaha,... Hai,... Pilipinas nga naman,... minsan guys nawawalan na ako ng gana about sa Bansa natin kasi puro nalang tayong huli sa lahat,... kaya naman kaso lang wala talaga tayong Political Will,... politika natin gustong yumaman,... wala na silang pakialam kahit anong mangyari sa bansa basta sila mayaman ok na,... punta nalang sila ng abroad para di nila maranasan yung hirap dito,... diba yung Government dapat yung nag le-lead sa mga tao upang maging competitive bansa natin,... dito, hindi eh... sila pa nag tuturo ng mga bata para maging corrupt,... Ayus,... AFP natin outdated mga armas samantala yung pondo na para diyan binubulsa ng mga heneral,.. The Best talaga sila :okay:

Shhhet man sana yan nalang yungbinili ng PN!! anak talaga ng kakupalan yang mga bulok na utak ng mga AFP! Mga inutil talaga! :bash:

^^ sana i purchase nila yun,.. kasi sayang eh,... magaganda pa naman,...

tapos nang nakaupo na si FVR, kala ng mga junior officers including their ring leader Honasan eh aasenso na ang AFP and would finally modernize it by boosting the defense budget and established the 15 yr US $16B dollar modernization plan, and viola! These freaking aholes did it again! It was all combination of mismanagement of bases conversion revenues, and corrupting the taxpayer's money that were meant to continue the plan. Yung "pabaon" nayan di na naputol ever since, lahat nalunon sa bisyong yan kaya di na matuloy tuloy ito... Kaya hanggang sa nandyan yang mga kupal naya, walang mangyayari sa AFP na inikala natin na finally masusunod na yung mga Horizon 1 2 3 nayan, tignan nyo 2011 and almost half way na to 2012 at wala ng nangyayari, pati sa binunganga nilang matatapos na ang gyera laban sa mga rebelde by 2010-2011 well guess what happened!
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yan si fvr ang nag umpisa ng afp modernization noong early 90's benenta ang mga former us military bases.tapos ibinangko sa cayman island ang pinag bentahan at walang nangyari sa modernization nya.wespoint graduate pa naman ang kupal at matandang magnanakaw,ginamit lang ang talino kong papano makapag nakaw sa kaban ng bayang pilipino.kakahiya,mamamatay na lang nag nakaw pa?hehehehe :lol::lol::lol:

Let us compare the modernization program of the AFP to Thailand:



So far our corrupt and moronic AFP generals got us a rickety and obsolete Hamilton Cutter from our good "friend" the US.

This is modernization to a syndicate (PMA graduate AFP corrupt Generals like Gen. Garcia, Ligot and Angelo Reyes and their PMA and AFP supporters gang)run AFP.

I pity our brave and patriotic and upright generals, officers and ordinary soldiers.

babasahin lang natin yan, dyan tayo magaling magbasa ng good news ng iba, napag-iwanan na talaga ang ating AFP.:ohno::ohno:

submarines? Marcos time pa ata yan, tayo kahit MRV, wala..

Kung yung mga generals natin eh nagpapapasan sa kanilang mga lower echelon escorts para wag lang mabasa ng tubig ang kanilang mga shiny combat shoes, yan pa kaya na 6 month sila mag stay under the water? :lol:

Itong mga 1970-80's PMA graduates ay mga kupal nang inang duwag at takot sa tubig kaya ayaw nilang magkaroon tayo ng submarines! Malamang mga claustrophobias silang mga intuil! :bash:

eh di ba dahil dyan nasira ung mga F-8 natin??
tsaka ung PNR north line naapektuhan kaya eventually nagsara na..

it hampered the development of the Central Luzon region, which accounted for 10% of the total GDP.. aside from the billions of $ in damage to farmlands, infrastructure, schools, hospitals, reforestation programs.. in fact, PHL GDP shrunk as an effect of the Pinatubo eruption, from 5% down to 3%

aside from destroying valuable PAF assets like the F-8 Crusader based in Basa Air Base

Those crusaders were useless and their maintenance budget were being mismanaged anyways. Beside, if they were really that precious for them then they could have done something to fly them away from pampanga. But what did they do? Even if they say they didn't have any chances to operate them then they could have just atleast covered them with paracutes! Where were their braincells when it was needed most? :ohno:

Ito pa panoorin ninyo, isa pang kakupalan sa philippine military!

Saksi: Video ng umano'y pagpapahirap sa military trainees, kumakalat sa Internet
03/21/2011 | 11:41 PM


http://www.gmanews.tv/video/76238/saksi-video-ng-umanoy-pagpapahirap-sa-military-trainees-kumakalat-sa-internet



:no:

Ito pa panoorin ninyo, isa pang kakupalan sa philippine military!

Saksi: Video ng umano'y pagpapahirap sa military trainees, kumakalat sa Internet
03/21/2011 | 11:41 PM


http://www.gmanews.tv/video/76238/saksi-video-ng-umanoy-pagpapahirap-sa-military-trainees-kumakalat-sa-internet



:no:


This cowardly act by our moronic Generals should have been done to our enemies and not to our poor helpless soldiers who are in no position to reject the orders of their stupid superiors.

From what I remember, the time when Pinatubo damaged the Crusader fleet, the aircraft have already served its usefulness and was actually just extended. When it was acquired in 1978, it was supposed to operate for only 10 years as an interim measure, infact part of the package was additional airframes to act as spares sources

USCGC Hamilton is tentatively scheduled to decommission March 28th, 2011 in San Diego. The 44 year old Hamilton will become a yet to be named frigate in the Philippine Navy replacing the 1943-built BRP Rajah Humabon (ex-USS Atherton) in service.


^^
yeah finally we have our new frigate
but its pretty old, that's in cold war :lol::lol:
at least we have 1 addition to our inventory :cheers2:

another accomplishment by pnoy and friends......

ai concorde :lol:

Kahapon habang nanonood ako ng t.v naiinis ako habang ini imbestigahan ang sosyalitang asawa ni general magnanakaw ligot.ang kakapal ng mukha pilosopo pa ang babaeng magnanakaw,pinipilosopo ang senador na nagtatanong,ang kapal ng mga mukha huli na ayaw pang umamin.bakit hindi pa kunin ng gobyerno ang mga ari-arian ng mga heneral na ito?dapat itong mga tao na ito ang pinapatay ng mga maka kanan na sundalo at mga NPA kasi mga taksil sila sa bayan,pahirap sila sa sambayanang pilipino,mga salot sa ating lipunan na dapat mawala sa mundo.:cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers:

^^ In every man's back lies a woman

dapat makulong ang mga lintik na yun.....dapat kasuhan na wag ng imbestiga in aid of papogi....ni jinggoy para tumakbong vp sa 2016 :lol: para makulong na ang mga hinayupak na yun.....

dapat makulong ang mga lintik na yun.....dapat kasuhan na wag ng imbestiga in aid of papogi....ni jinggoy para tumakbong vp sa 2016 :lol: para makulong na ang mga hinayupak na yun.....

ito ang maganda sa atin yung mismong kinasuhan ng plunder kasama ng tatay nya ay syang umiibestiga. Lokohan na lang ba tayo?:ohno:

May hiya naman sana, at pauto naman tayo, ang dali nating nakalimot. Bilib pa tayo kay Sen Jinggoy.:ohno:.. eh yung dungis nya sa mukha hindi malinis.:ohno:

yung na convict na magnanakaw galit sa kapwa magnanakaw....:lol:

ito ang maganda sa atin yung mismong kinasuhan ng plunder kasama ng tatay nya ay syang umiibestiga. Lokohan na lang ba tayo?:ohno:

May hiya naman sana, at pauto naman tayo, ang dali nating nakalimot. Bilib pa tayo kay Sen Jinggoy.:ohno:.. eh yung dungis nya sa mukha hindi malinis.:ohno:

Tama! :okay:
kung titingnan mo xa ngayon sa senado, parang kung sinong napakalinis at ni kahit katiting na dungis sa mukha, Pwehh!!! eh kung tutuusin ang ama niya ang Ama ng Pagnanakaw!
I hate Marcos, Arroyo and Estrada!:bash:

puso mo.....ibaling mo ang hate sa lab....mag pa lab test ka kaya :lol: peace...

Kahapon habang nanonood ako ng t.v naiinis ako habang ini imbestigahan ang sosyalitang asawa ni general magnanakaw ligot.ang kakapal ng mukha pilosopo pa ang babaeng magnanakaw,pinipilosopo ang senador na nagtatanong,ang kapal ng mga mukha huli na ayaw pang umamin.bakit hindi pa kunin ng gobyerno ang mga ari-arian ng mga heneral na ito?dapat itong mga tao na ito ang pinapatay ng mga maka kanan na sundalo at mga NPA kasi mga taksil sila sa bayan,pahirap sila sa sambayanang pilipino,mga salot sa ating lipunan na dapat mawala sa mundo.:cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers:

I saw that too, not the whole scene though.

Mag asawang salot yan p***. Haha, asawa nya si Misis Libot, sosyal! Mahilig mag tour sa ibang bansa gamit ng sahod ng mga sundalo :banana:, Mister nya naman si Mr. Limot. Ano pa aasahan natin. :lol:

Dapat talaga ma sentensyahan ng kamatayan to e. Dapat firing squad. At least sa panahon ngayon pag na firing squad sya para na syang namatay ng sosyal. :nuts:

malabo ata sa malabo pa....na may mangyari dyan....eh....ang nagiimbistiga nakulong na....:lol: it says a lot di ba? hindi kaya kalabasan nito ay...oi pare hati na lang tayo...tigil ko na acting ko dito....:lol: hindi kumikita mga pelikula ko at wala na ako pelikula ngayon....:lol:

This cowardly act by our moronic Generals should have been done to our enemies and not to our poor helpless soldiers who are in no position to reject the orders of their stupid superiors.

Ironically, that type of training was supposed to be teaching the soldiers how to deal with the potential torture in the hands of the enemies. And i never like this kind of training, even those from the US where they beat up these soldiers by hands and cover their faces with all those stuff and tools for tortures.

I think because it has an opposite side effect to individuals, and it only cause cowardness, because these tough-trained soldiers for these circumtances will now only make them afraid and too scared to face their enemies knowing how they could be beaten to death or be paralized if captured by the enemies.

Specially from that video, using stingray's tail to hit their trainees? Do they even think? Since when the rebels ever used "latigos" to hit their captured government troops anyway?

Therefore i think, this cruelty is useless and it's not necessary,a nd will never help a soldier how to cope that scenario.

^^tama!

somewhere in Libya

http://www.20min.ch/diashow/35924/2174016-b7144c5987f39a9a2c0eace9e5662f33.jpg

adaptation...

^^Breakdancing? :lol:

Ironically, that type of training was supposed to be teaching the soldiers how to deal with the potential torture in the hands of the enemies. And i never like this kind of training, even those from the US where they beat up these soldiers by hands and cover their faces with all those stuff and tools for tortures.

I think because it has an opposite side effect to individuals, and it only cause cowardness, because these tough-trained soldiers for these circumtances will now only make them afraid and too scared to face their enemies knowing how they could be beaten to death or be paralized if captured by the enemies.

Specially from that video, using stingray's tail to hit their trainees? Do they even think? Since when the rebels ever used "latigos" to hit their captured government troops anyway?

Therefore i think, this cruelty is useless and it's not necessary,a nd will never help a soldier how to cope that scenario.

^^ i agree with you... they should be concentrating training soldiers to win the battle not to make their bodies tough for being tortured in the future,... instead of abusing their bodies, teach them martial arts more and combat tactics... coz that's just a waste of time or maybe those dumb ass soldiers are just abusing their power so they beat up trainees when they are bored,... :bash:

^^Breakdancing? :lol:

^^ aircraft o helicopter cguro target niya,... hehe anyway, he looks funny though :lol:

^^ I thought he looked cool. Like doing some kickass breakdancing :lol:

confirmed na hindi nga kasama sa Hamilton class high endurance cutter na ita-transfer ng US sa atin ang Phalanx CIWS at ilan pang high-tech na gamit (e.g. computers, data management systems, coast monitoring systems) dun. that Hamilton class cutter will essentially be nothing else but a bloated gunboat.

^^ tatanga naman. they literally bought garbage

pang photo ops lang yang Hamiltoink na yan :bash: :bash: :bash:

Soldiery and Family Life: Connecting the Two Different Worlds
by Major Harold M. Cabunoc (Inf) PA


Is it possible to be successful as a parent and as a military man? Quoting one of PMA’s plebe knowledge, “...this question is still languishing in my heart,” . I am aware that this is quite a challenge. As a married military man myself, I am finding ways to find some solutions.

Broken homes and failed marriages are becoming common among families separated by distance. This is applicable to both OFWs and soldiers who are separated from their loved ones.

In my research, I have not seen any document showing the statistics of troubled marriages among military couples. There are no also records about military dependents who became drug addicts or juvenile delinquents.

I can only assume that this ‘problem’ has not caught the attention of many military leaders. In my honest opinion, this maybe a reason why there is no institutionalized training or seminars for soldiers on how to perform their dual responsibilities as a soldier and as a family man.

Soldier’s Morale

Among military personnel, it is quite common to see spouses and children left behind in their homes as soldiers are deployed to distant posts.

While in far-flung duty assignments, many of these soldiers seem to have forgotten their responsibilities as husbands and fathers; they focus much of their time on their military duties.

The soldiers’ inability to maintain the lines of communication result to failed marriages and ill-supervised children, who may became drug addicts and juvenile delinquents in the future. I have known about successful military men who rose to become star-rank officers but failed miserably at the home front. I see this as a great failure on the part of the soldiers and probably of their leaders who have failed to see this reality.

In my own experience as a combat leader, I realized that a soldier’s morale is directly affected by the condition in his home. You cannot expect a soldier to focus on his job if he carries the burdens brought about by family-related woes.

As a leader, I am also affected by these problems. In one solid example, I sent home one of my soldiers when his Team Leader told me that the soldier was always staring at a ‘blank wall’. I traced his troubles back to his tumultuous family situation.

Aware of these, it became part of my personal commitment to look into the status of the families of my men. During Commander’s time, I never failed to remind them about their important role both as a father and as a husband, on top of their basic responsibilities as soldiers.

To ensure that I would not commit the same mistakes, I tried my best to address the same problem in my own family.

When my son, Harvey, was born eleven years ago, I realized that I could not perform all the ‘jobs’ of a father. He was born during the time that I was about to become a Commander of the 10th Scout Ranger Company, a rapid deployment force that could be sent anywhere in the Philippine archipelago.

I would not be there to teach him how to walk, or how to ride a bike, or how to fly a kite. I would not be there to help him in his school assignments or teach him how to cook.

Establishing the ‘connection’

Being new parents, my wife, Bia, and I relied heavily on folk wisdom or the ‘sabi-sabi’ as regards to the correct ways to maintain the bond between me and our son, Harvey.

“Maglagay kayo ng di nalabhang damit sa tabi ng bata,” was the advice from our baby-sitter.

“I read that a baby ‘connects’ through scent and not through vision,” my wife added, quoting some ideas she scanned from a book on responsible parenting. I readily agreed, hoping that it really works.

So there I was, bundling my unwashed shirt beside him when I departed for Sulu in September 2000, during the Sipadan hostage rescue operations. My son was about eight months old during that time. Pinagtitiisan nya ang aking amoy dahil nakasabit sa kanyang crib ang aking damit na di nilabhan. The unwashed shirt that I leave every time became his comfort blanket and his guardian.

While serving in the frontlines of the Army’s counter-terrorism campaign in southern Mindanao, I was quite thankful to the guys in Finland who invented the cellular phone.

I was also very happy that cellphone signal was very good in downtown Jolo where at least two thousand soldiers were deployed to simultaneously attack the terrorist lairs in Sulu province in September 2000.

As such, I always make it a point to make a phone call and make myself heard not only to my beloved wife, but also to our son during our resupply operations.

In one of our conversations, I can vividly recall when my wife said, “Tumatawa sya nang marinig ang boses mo, Dear.” I was happy that our techniques seemed to work perfectly.

That became my motivation to volunteer to climb some high grounds for ‘observation post’ (OP) operations because these hills offer good phone coverage as an incentive. Bud Tumatangis in Indanan town and the surrounding hills of Kagay and Tanum in Patikul are among the best places for making phone calls. Unfortunately, the bandits were aware of this too and some of our fierce clashes happened in these areas.

‘Tactical’ communications

I maintained the same system of communication with my family when my unit was transferred to Basilan during the Lamitan siege in June 2001. For this reason, I found out that there were strong phone signals on top of Hill 800 and Hill 898 (Punoh Mohadji).

When security situations permitted, I made it a personal routine to send my family text messages or phone calls when extremely necessary. Though I may be deep in the lush forests of Sampinit complex and within the lair of the terrorists, I maintained my communication lines to my family. I did not want them to be stressed, thinking about my situation.

It was also a stress-reliever for me to hear my son utter “Papa” as if greeting me or wishing me good luck.

As a policy, I did not tell her about the details of our military operations as this would make her worry some more. I just told her that we were ‘resting’ for a while and that my unit was doing fine. In one occasion, I told her we were all ‘okay’ despite the fact that I am still shaking and my unit just suffered numerous casualties (wounded) after a brutal encounter.

My wife had adjusted to the situation that I needed to talk in whispers every time I make a call in a ‘hot’ area. “Tactical considerations, let’s talk within 3-5 minutes,” I tell her.

Since clashes were always in the headlines during those times, I always made it a point to relay a message to my wife through military communication lines when cellphone signal cannot be accessed in my area of operations (AO).

“Tell her that I am alive and kicking the butts of the terrorists here,” I would joke to my radio operator in our camp in Cabunbata village in Isabela town. He would relay the same message to my wife through our unit’s cellphone.

It was my hope that my wife would not entertain thoughts that I might be one of the casualties in the bloody clashes. I was aware of the fact that the events in Basilan filled the primetime news and that the Scout Rangers were at the very forefront of the dangerous combat-rescue missions during those times.

During lull of the military operations, I also find time to fly to Manila to see my family even for only three days. To do this, I usually pay a round trip ticket (Zambo-Manila-Zambo) just to ensure that I can rejoin my company after its ‘rest period’ elapses. By doing so, I sustained the bonding moments with my wife and my son.

Consistency is the key

When I was transferred to Bulacan province for my staff duty assignment in May 2002, my son was already talkative and playful. He was barely three year old when I regularly hopped back and forth Manila and our headquarters in San Miguel town, located about 2.5 hours away from home.

When I am on duty, I saw to it that I talked to him everyday. Our phone conversations became part of my ‘duty’ that I religiously performed. “Papa, san ka? Bakit ka nandyan?” was his repeated dialogue. Parang sirang plaka sa mga tanong pero aking pinagtitiyagaang sagutin kahit paulit-ulit.

I had the opportunity to be with my family regularly when I was posted as a Liaison Officer in Fort Bonifacio in that same year. Unlike in the field, soldiers who are posted in garrisons usually have the chance to spend the weekends with their family. I therefore became one of the so-called ‘weekend warriors’.

As part of our bonding time, we regularly had swimming trips. He loved playing in the pool and I became his first
swimming instructor. Through our ‘habulan’ games, we created memories that would be imprinted forever in both our hearts.

Where is Papa?

When my son was five years old, saying goodbye became much more difficult. When I was detailed as an instructor in the Scout Ranger School, I always depart in the wee hours of the morning so that I can catch the start of the classes at 8:00am.

One morning, my wife called to tell me that Harvey was crying because I did not ask for his permission to leave the house. “I will wake you up next time son,” I promised him.

He took my word like a covenant. Since then, I always make it a point to get his nod every time I depart for duty. Most of the time, he was still too groggy to rise and send me off. However, I was glad that I did not hear more grumblings from him anymore.

Probably influenced by the negative impact of the primetime news about battles and tales of destruction in Mindanao, my son never liked soldiery as a profession. “Ayaw kong mamatay. Takot ako sa Abu Sayyaf,” were among his reasons. His mom could only nod in agreement.

I am glad that my duty as a company grade officer was over when he gradually became aware about the bloody battles in the countryside.

I believe Naomi Drew, author of Hope and Healing: Raising Peaceful Children in an Uncertain World when she said that children are usually terrified by the prospect of war and that this fear is magnified for those with family members in the armed forces.

I also agree when she declared that, “Children live by routines, such as eating dinner at a certain time or having a bedtime story read to them every night. These routines make them feel safe and in control. When a routine is broken—in this case, the absence of a parent for an unspecified period of time—a child may begin to feel helpless and adrift.”

I believe that it was the reason why he complained about my inability to ask for his permission before I depart for my military duty.

As my only child, he expected that that I am still beside him when he wakes up. He disliked the idea that I am not there to play with him the whole day.

Creating memories

Regardless of the constant phone calls from hundreds of miles away, I still felt that my son is becoming aloof to me as time went by. Definitely, there is no replacement for actual presence. As they say, ‘iba ang may pinagsamahan’. There are things that cannot be compensated by long distance conversations.

When I get the opportunity to go home, I always make it a point to spend quality time with my son. I identified some common interests that we have. When there are minor conflicts about what we like, we meet halfway and come up with compromises.

Since the three of us love Swedish massage, we find time to visit our favorite massage parlor. It has become a convenient way to share experiences and laughter especially when we compare the performance of our respective attendants.

We also implemented the family coffee time during which we just talk and share funny stories about our own lives. I share my ‘kwentong mess kit’, which is about the humor in uniform. Hearing the real life funny situations involving soldiers, I found out that he appreciates even simple jokes.

For his part, I require him to share his daily experiences as a child, about his crushes (which he reluctantly shares) and about his close friends.

We taught him the importance of honesty and the proper use of “All Right” challenge, which I learned in the PMA. Until now, he has adhered to his highest standard of integrity. He also takes note about the importance of word of honor. Lagi akong nasisingil kapag nakakalimutan ko ang sarili kong promises.

Lately, my son and I are into pistol shooting. Somehow, I influenced him after several shooting competitions during which I tagged him along as my cheerer. He is becoming a very good shooter now. Malapit na akong ma-demote bilang cheerer.

It started out when I told him that I ‘won’ many friends through shooting competitions. I asked him if he wants to do something for the country. “Gusto ko po,” came his reply.

I asked him if he wants to be an Olympic gold medalist in one of our ‘usapang mag-ama’ as we called our conversations. “You will become a national hero. Nobody has brought home a gold medal until today.”

Since then, I shared to him my shooting skills. Aware that shooting is quite expensive, he urged me at one point to concentrate on the coaching job. I soon realized it was a trick so that he can have all the ammunitions intended for both of us.

Naturally, shooting became our passion. Discussing his shooting ‘dry practices’ became part of our small talks every night. I told him to minimize playing computer games as this might adversely affect his vision. I also told him to undergo swimming and aerobic exercise, which he readily obliged. Dahil sa shooting, meron na kaming karagdagang pinag-uusapan.

I also noticed that our communication lines have become more open and less informal as it should be. He shares to me his feelings such as his ‘nerbiyos’ prior to an actual match; and I always ensured that I taught him the techniques to overcome them.

“Just concentrate on the shooting basics. Don’t think about the people watching you but think on how to shoot straight consistently all the time,” I reminded him.

When he won his first official shooting match in February 2011, he was very proud. He called me and asked me to take a photo of his trophy for his Face book account.I got a simple reward for my coaching job when I heard him say, “I am proud of my Coach Papa.”

Technological advancements

During my younger years as a Platoon Leader in mid 90’s, our soldiers were contented with the use of the URC 187 HF radio to talk with their loved ones. I can vividly recall soldiers saying, “I love you too, over!” to their wives who chatted with them through the military communication lines of another military camp near their homes.

When I was a Company Commander, majority of my soldiers had their own cellphones. I also maintained a company-owned cellphone that was monitored by our support personnel 24/7.

Those who had no personal cellphones were allowed to use the unit’s cellphone for emergency outgoing calls. I also required them to maintain communication lines to their loved ones and I personally write letters to their wives or parents. By doing so, I have helped save some troubled marriages in my unit.

With the advent of 3G video calls, Skype and Yahoo Messenger, maintaining the lines of communication is becoming much easier.

It seems that there are no more valid alibis left for soldiers not to maintain a robust relationship with their loved ones.

I can confidently say that we can be the best soldier and a responsible family man if we want to do it. We must strive to achieve this usually unrecognized ‘accomplishment’.

I had received many combat medals and citations in the past. Indeed, I am very proud for them.

But during my Basilan tour in 1998, I received my first “Best Husband” certificate from my wife. It made me prouder.

I am still waiting for my “Best Father” award from my son. I am still working hard for it. It will make me the proudest soldier.


***(This article is dedicated to all soldiers who have offered their lives in the service of the motherland)

Feature: The Filipino Soldier: human, and with rights too
PIA Press Release
Friday, January 14, 2011


He could be a son, a father, a husband, a brother, a friend. He is also a human being – this Filipino soldier. Therefore he has human rights too. But when he dies in line of duty, or gets ambushed, only his family, his friends and his officials grieve.

When a Filipino soldier dies, nobody would march on the streets with clenched fists, shouting that the soldier was killed in cold blood, that his human rights were violated.

What a contrast, compared to a group who had been in the news for so long claiming to be health workers who were arrested by the soldiers – having been reportedly caught assembling bombing devices.

When they were detained, many of their sympathizers took to the streets, demanding for their release. Their sympathizers portrayed the soldiers as violators of their human rights. They were legitimate health workers, their sympathizers claimed.

But when 10 soldiers were killed in an ambush later owned by the New People’s Army (NPA)in Northern Samar on the eve of the observation of the Christmas ceasefire on December 14 2010, nobody marched to the streets crying that the human rights of these soldiers were violated.

Only the family, friends and officials of these soldiers grieved for the loss of their lives. Even a 9-year-old boy was killed together with the soldiers, hit by a stray bullet. But nobody among the usual noisy groups made a whimper, seeking to investigate and to prosecute the killers, not only of the soldiers, but of the small boy.

Which made a soldier-friendly newspaper reader write a letter to the editor of a national daily and ask: “Why do we have no sympathy to soldiers when killed, but so soft on people caught with their hands inside the cookie jar, and yet claim to be innocent? We know who the sympathizers of this group are. And when these people faced the media, they raised their clenched fists, showing us who they really are,” the reader wrote.

Apparently, this is also the question that often crops up from the mouths of soldiers when they meet people from the Commission on Human Rights (CHR), an independent national human rights institution mandated under the 1987 Constitution to “independently investigate all forms of human rights violations involving civil and political rights”.

According to Director Ana Elzy E. Ofreneo of the Human Rights Education and Research Office of CHR Central Office, when their office started coordinating with the Philippine Army about human rights advocacy courses, the soldiers were so hostile and told them to “go train the left”.

“When these people die in an encounter with us, they have human rights, but when it is us who die, it is just all right,” these soldiers lamented to the CHR.

The CHR is however is mandated to provide instructions in humanitarian law for the armed forces and to adopt measures for its implementation at the national level.

Since its creation in 1987, the CHR has conducted human rights advocacy courses, orientations and seminar-workshops for the military.

Director Ofreneo said the trainings are conducted regularly . For the military, the training is called Troop Information Education, and it has now bore fruit, as the courses had been found to be greatly appreciated by the soldiers themselves, based on the latest quarterly assessment by the CHR.

“The AFP even came out with a book on humanitarian law, and this amazed everybody,” Director Ofreneo said.

And it is not true that the CHR has no sympathy for soldiers.

“When the Paombong massacre happened years ago, the CHR came for an independent investigation. We found out that the bloodstains were already old and dried, meaning the victims had been long dead when the marines arrived . Because of our investigation, the marines were exonerated,” Dir. Ofreneo said.

Finally, based on CHR records, soldiers are not even number 1 in their list of human rights violators.

First on their list are the police, followed by local government officers, and the third is the military. Rebel forces are also in the list – the number 4 human rights violators. (vgv/PIA)
http://pia.gov.ph/?m=1&t=1&id=11782

confirmed na hindi nga kasama sa Hamilton class high endurance cutter na ita-transfer ng US sa atin ang Phalanx CIWS at ilan pang high-tech na gamit (e.g. computers, data management systems, coast monitoring systems) dun. that Hamilton class cutter will essentially be nothing else but a bloated gunboat.

Unfortunately, its a done deal.


To be constructive, what the AFP can do is for the AFP to retrofit the ship with other armaments. Perhaps some discarded armaments from unused Philippine Navy ships.

confirmed na hindi nga kasama sa Hamilton class high endurance cutter na ita-transfer ng US sa atin ang Phalanx CIWS at ilan pang high-tech na gamit (e.g. computers, data management systems, coast monitoring systems) dun. that Hamilton class cutter will essentially be nothing else but a bloated gunboat.


ang arm forces of the philippines namulot na naman ng pagkaing pagpag sa america,walang kwenta talaga ang mga heneral natin,puro gong-gong,bobo,walang kwenta,ang utak puro bulok.mas yadong bilib sa mga stateside,kahit bulok at pupugak-pugak ay bibilhin ng mga kupal.makakalawang lang ang mga navy personnel natin dyan.wala pang armaments....hehehe mga walang utak talaga,pero sa pagnanakaw sa bayan sa bayan ang bilis bilis.:ohno::ohno::ohno::ohno::ohno:

confirmed na hindi nga kasama sa Hamilton class high endurance cutter na ita-transfer ng US sa atin ang Phalanx CIWS at ilan pang high-tech na gamit (e.g. computers, data management systems, coast monitoring systems) dun. that Hamilton class cutter will essentially be nothing else but a bloated gunboat.


ang arm forces of the philippines namulot na naman ng pagkaing pagpag sa america,walang kwenta talaga ang mga heneral natin,puro gong-gong,bobo,walang kwenta,ang utak puro bulok.mas yadong bilib sa mga stateside,kahit bulok at pupugak-pugak ay bibilhin ng mga kupal.makakalawang lang ang mga navy personnel natin dyan.wala pang armaments....hehehe mga walang utak talaga,pero sa pagnanakaw sa bayan sa bayan ang bilis bilis.:ohno::ohno::ohno::ohno::ohno:


^^:bash::bash::ohno::ohno:... wow!!! nkakabilib naman itong mga opisyales nito, dati ang saya kahit bitter nah meron na tayong bagong Hamiltoink-class cutter, hahaiz epic fail naman!!!... useless lang pala, walang nka.instored nah mka.bagong kagamitan ... God save the philippines from china :bow:

^^ ASTIG talaga yung HAMILTON,...:okay: bilib ako sa mga heneral,... :lol: obviously walang kwanta yan,... i-compare mo yan sa Chinese ships,... parang bumililang tayo ng paper boat na malaki,... :D

confirmed na hindi nga kasama sa Hamilton class high endurance cutter na ita-transfer ng US sa atin ang Phalanx CIWS at ilan pang high-tech na gamit (e.g. computers, data management systems, coast monitoring systems) dun. that Hamilton class cutter will essentially be nothing else but a bloated gunboat.


ang arm forces of the philippines namulot na naman ng pagkaing pagpag sa america,walang kwenta talaga ang mga heneral natin,puro gong-gong,bobo,walang kwenta,ang utak puro bulok.mas yadong bilib sa mga stateside,kahit bulok at pupugak-pugak ay bibilhin ng mga kupal.makakalawang lang ang mga navy personnel natin dyan.wala pang armaments....hehehe mga walang utak talaga,pero sa pagnanakaw sa bayan sa bayan ang bilis bilis.:ohno::ohno::ohno::ohno::ohno:

which is more machineguns... might as well deploy a v-150 there with 105 howitzer and mortars at the stern! :lol:

^^ ASTIG talaga yung HAMILTON,...:okay: bilib ako sa mga heneral,... :lol: obviously walang kwanta yan,... i-compare mo yan sa Chinese ships,... parang bumililang tayo ng paper boat na malaki,... :D

makuntento na lang tayo, e wala talagang pera inubos na ng mga heneral. Mabuti na yan kaysa wala.:ohno:

^^ parang wala rin eh,... magiging target practice lang yan ng Chinese navy,... :lol:

^^ sana inipon nalang pambili ng bagong kagamitan kesa sinasayang sa scraps ng ibang bansa. Marami nga eh puro scrap metal naman :lol:

confirmed na hindi nga kasama sa Hamilton class high endurance cutter na ita-transfer ng US sa atin ang Phalanx CIWS at ilan pang high-tech na gamit (e.g. computers, data management systems, coast monitoring systems) dun. that Hamilton class cutter will essentially be nothing else but a bloated gunboat.

Link please.

Well, If it's true..

http://media.animevice.com/uploads/0/6566/181148-triple_facepalm_super.jpg

Link please.

Well, If it's true..

http://media.animevice.com/uploads/0/6566/181148-triple_facepalm_super.jpg

the issue had been discussed at timawa.net

And they said that Hamilton Class Cutter will be stripped down of essential armaments.

Just like they had said: it's a Giant defenseless ship, a much bigger version Jacinto class corvette, and a laughing stock.

How can this ship shun away foreign naval ships in Spratlys' if it's lack modern radars and armaments ?

Maybe the PN plan is actually operate the Hamilton until its 65 years old and sell it to museum in the US..The Hamilton is soo useless to our need for a credible Navy in the face of the growing threats in the Spratlys..I wonder what the other countries' generals are saying about the manner of procurement of the Philippines for weapons

you mean halos 20 years lang nating mapapakinabangan yan ^^ aba di extend nalang natin si Rajah Humabon until he reach his centennial in service. :ohno::ohno::ohno:

another huge accomplishment by pnoy and friends......baka ibang Hamilton ang gusto ni pnoy....kala ng mga alipores nya yung coast guard cutter ....baka naman yung lifeguard :lol: juk lang baka kalbuhin ako ng mga fans nya...:lol:

^^sa tingin ko nakipag secret deal itong si noynoy (o baka pa nga si lil evil gloria) sa china eh. baka nasabihan sya ng mga intsik na wag tayong bibili ng mga warships na merong missile capabilities, kapalit tatapusin nila yung northrail. :lol:

oi na man kaha armaments.....labtik oi....ug pana....naa pud.....retrofit daw sabi ni anintilijibol blabiring.....:lol: go fetch 8=8

A few years ago.. it was not only the Philippine Navy that was operating WW 2 warships, I think there were others from South America that also operated ex-USN warships, but the difference was that the S. American country, Chile or Peru I think had ex-USN Battle Cruiser of WW 2 vintage, though I think they already decommissioned them now. Ath least what the Chilean or Peruvian had has a use as an imposing force, albeit a limited one militarily, our warship is a WW 2 Destroyer Escort!!..for a flag ship!

Hindi ba nakakaramdam ng hiya ang mga heneral natin at dinadala pa nila sa ibang bansa for goodwill visit, ano yun travelling museum pieces for everyone to ridicule!

Hindi ba nakakaramdam ng hiya ang mga heneral natin at dinadala pa nila sa ibang bansa for goodwill visit, ano yun travelling museum pieces for everyone to ridicule!

Nope. They never felt any sense of shame.

I believe they are still proud of fielding the venerable Rajah Humabon in the open seas. Like they said, that's the proof that we are good at maintaining junks este vintage warships to be in operational status.

Holy f*ck! they have the guts to bragged this antiquated warships in the international community, and the insanely proud of it !!!

A few years ago.. it was not only the Philippine Navy that was operating WW 2 warships, I think there were others from South America that also operated ex-USN warships, but the difference was that the S. American country, Chile or Peru I think had ex-USN Battle Cruiser of WW 2 vintage, though I think they already decommissioned them now. Ath least what the Chilean or Peruvian had has a use as an imposing force, albeit a limited one militarily, our warship is a WW 2 Destroyer Escort!!..for a flag ship!

Hindi ba nakakaramdam ng hiya ang mga heneral natin at dinadala pa nila sa ibang bansa for goodwill visit, ano yun travelling museum pieces for everyone to ridicule!

Thailand operated a sister ship of the Humabon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTMS_Pin_Klao) until they decommissioned it in 2008.. Now, they have an aircraft carrier, 8 fairly-modern frigates, and are looking to buy submarines.. To think that Thailand is not really a maritime nation compared to us adds more insult to the injury

Military leaves security issue in Spratlys to DFA
By Jaime Laude (The Philippine Star) Updated March 26, 2011 12:00 AM Comments (1) View comments

MANILA, Philippines - The military is keeping quiet over the unfolding security developments in the Spratlys.

Brig. Gen. Jose Mabanta, Armed Forces spokesman, said the matter is now within the domain of the Department of Foreign Affairs (DFA).

“It has become the concern of the DFA,” Mabanta said when sought for comment on the P8 billion that Malacañang has earmarked for military infrastructure in the Kalayaan group of islands.

It was learned that President Aquino has ordered the initial release of P8 billion for the immediate repairs of military facilities to include the rehabilitation of the Rancudo Airfield at Pag-Asa island.

This amount is on top of the other funding sources which the national government has allotted for military projects in Kalayaan group.

In a military report, claimant countries, except for the Philippines, have been aggressively and continuously establishing their foothold in their occupied islets, shoals and reefs in that part of South China Sea.

“If we want to gain respect of others, first we must show them that we are respectable,” said a Camp Aguinaldo insider as he underscored an urgent need for the military to reassess its position in the Kalayaan island group.

He pointed out that the “do nothing” policy being enforced by the military in the Spratlys for the past several years has left the country in a very disadvantageous position.

The “do nothing” policy, due mainly to the country’s lack of a credible air and sea fighting force, has been largely viewed by past leaderships as an effective military strategy to defuse the possible breaking out of hostilities in the region among forces of claimant countries.

Except for Brunei, all the claimant countries – the Philippines, China, Taiwan, Vietnam and Malaysia – have deployed forward troops in the region.

A naval officer who formerly commanded one of the two gunboats assigned to patrol the Kalayaan islands had to apply this strategy to avoid confrontation with intruding Chinese gunboats.

“The strategy was very effective,” the naval officer said.

“We never moved against them and they never moved against us. My orders coming from higher headquarters then was to challenge the Chinese gunboats but judgment call dictated that it would be suicide for me and my men if I will do so.” He said his gunboat has the capability to engage the Chinese intruders.

“If push comes to shove, may laban,” he said.

Pero ano ang panama ng barko natin sa mga missile-firing capable na mga Chinese vessels.” (We can fight but we’re no match for the missile-firing capable Chinese vessels).

He had to order his escort vessel to withdraw to a more comfortable distance though ready to pick them up from the sea in the event their vessel is sunk by the Chinese vessels, the naval officer said.

China warns vs oil exploration

China warned yesterday against any oil exploration without its consent in waters it claims in the South China Sea after the Philippines announced plans for possible drilling.

The Department of Energy said Wednesday that UK-based Forum Energy had completed a seismic survey for the Reed Bank, near the disputed Spratly Islands.

The Spratlys are called the Nansha Islands in Chinese and claimed by China.

Chinese foreign ministry spokesman Jiang Yu told reporters China holds indisputable sovereignty over the Nansha Islands and adjacent waters.

“Any activities by countries or companies to explore for oil or gas in the sea waters in China’s jurisdiction without the permission of the Chinese government will constitute a violation of China’s sovereignty and... will be illegal and invalid,” she said.

Jiang did not make any direct reference to the Philippines or Forum Energy, nor did she say the survey area was actually in waters under Chinese jurisdiction.

Chinese embassy officials earlier requested a copy of the Forum Energy announcement.

On Wednesday, Forum Energy said it used the survey data to evaluate the commercial potential of the block and to “help identify the best location for possible appraisal wells to be drilled.”

The Reed Bank lies about 150 kilometers east of the Spratlys, which are claimed in whole or in part by Brunei, Malaysia, Taiwan, Vietnam, the Philippines and China.


http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=669874&publicationSubCategoryId=63

With the tendency of the DFA to kiss China's ass, this could be disastrous. :(

Thailand operated a sister ship of the Humabon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTMS_Pin_Klao) until they decommissioned it in 2008.. Now, they have an aircraft carrier, 8 fairly-modern frigates, and are looking to buy submarines.. To think that Thailand is not really a maritime nation compared to us adds more insult to the injury

Everyone in ASEAN is upgrading(presumably due to China's growing military-industrial complex) except for the Philippines

US ships disrupt pirate attack on Philippine vessel
Saturday, March 26, 2011

NORFOLK, Virginia — Two Virginia-based ships are being credited with thwarting a pirate attack on a Philippines-flagged merchant vessel in the Arabian Sea.


The Pentagon said the aircraft carrier USS Enterprise and the guided missile cruiser USS Leyte Gulf responded Thursday to the Falcon Trader II after the ship reported pirates in a skiff were attempting to board the vessel.


The ships dispatched two helicopters to the Philippines vessel, and they fired warning shots. Men were seen jumping from the ship and speeding away in their skiff.


The Pentagon said the pirates also returned fire when they reached their mother ship.


The 20 Filipino crew members emerged from the adventure without injury. (AP)

http://www.sunstar.com.ph/breaking-news/2011/03/26/us-ships-disrupt-pirate-attack-philippine-vessel-147004

Thailands carrier as others have mentioned here over the years rarely sets sail also Thailands defence budgets are far greater than ours they have one of the largest budgets in ASEAN either 2nd or 3rd after Singapore .

That we don't have advanced missile or other systems on our vessels has more to do with our overall technological level of capability, it takes time to train people to the state of the art and time aswell for the military to prepare for new and more advanced equipment, if we got F22 Raptor jets tommorow we wouldn't know how to use them and it would likewise be irresponsible for the Americans to let us acquire such equipment .

Even China and India still have large numbers of 50's vintage equipment despite their larger budgets and are proceeding step by step with modernisation and not some giant overnight leap .

Air Force to repair Rancudo field
By Jaime Laude (The Philippine Star) Updated March 24, 2011 12:00 AM Comments (8)

MANILA, Philippines - The Philippine Air Force (PAF) has been given the go-signal by Malacañang to spearhead the repair and rehabilitation of the damaged Rancudo Airfield in Pag-Asa, the biggest island being occupied by Filipino troops in the hotly contested Spratly Islands in the South China Sea.

Camp Aguinaldo insiders said President Aquino has directed various government agencies, including the Department of Energy (DOE), to pool their resources for the initial release of P8 billion in order to bankroll the repairs of dilapidated military infrastructure in the Kalayaan Island Group (KIG).

Among the Spratlys’ six claimant countries – the Philippines, China, Vietnam, Malaysia, Taiwan and Brunei – the Philippines is lagging behind in terms of military fortification in the area, with China and Vietnam conducting aggressive development in their respective occupied islands, reefs and shoals in that part of the South China Sea.

Military sources bared that part of the P8 billion as well as future fund releases for the KIG would go to concreting of the 1,553-meter Rancudo Air Field and the procurement of long range patrol aircraft and patrol vessels.

Philippine Coast Guard (PCG) vessels have been dispatched to the area to provide security to civilian vessels conducting research and seismic studies in the KIG in line with the government’s ongoing oil exploration within the Palawan Sea.

This was after the March 7 Reed Bank incident, where two Chinese gunboats harassed a research vessel commissioned by DOE.

“The security concerns out there in the Spratlys are already alarming,” a source from Camp Aguinaldo said.

He added that no less than President Aquino, in his recent meeting with top defense and military officials, aired his concern over the prevailing state of existing military infrastructure and facilities in the KIG.



Meantime, Lt. Col. Ernesto Okol, Air Force spokesman, confirmed that there are existing development plans for Rancudo Airfield but he could not say when these will be implemented.

Military leaves security issue in Spratlys to DFA
By Jaime Laude (The Philippine Star) Updated March 26, 2011 12:00 AM Comments (1) View comments

MANILA, Philippines - The military is keeping quiet over the unfolding security developments in the Spratlys.

Brig. Gen. Jose Mabanta, Armed Forces spokesman, said the matter is now within the domain of the Department of Foreign Affairs (DFA).

“It has become the concern of the DFA,” Mabanta said when sought for comment on the P8 billion that Malacañang has earmarked for military infrastructure in the Kalayaan group of islands.

It was learned that President Aquino has ordered the initial release of P8 billion for the immediate repairs of military facilities to include the rehabilitation of the Rancudo Airfield at Pag-Asa island.

This amount is on top of the other funding sources which the national government has allotted for military projects in Kalayaan group.

In a military report, claimant countries, except for the Philippines, have been aggressively and continuously establishing their foothold in their occupied islets, shoals and reefs in that part of South China Sea.

“If we want to gain respect of others, first we must show them that we are respectable,” said a Camp Aguinaldo insider as he underscored an urgent need for the military to reassess its position in the Kalayaan island group.

He pointed out that the “do nothing” policy being enforced by the military in the Spratlys for the past several years has left the country in a very disadvantageous position.

The “do nothing” policy, due mainly to the country’s lack of a credible air and sea fighting force, has been largely viewed by past leaderships as an effective military strategy to defuse the possible breaking out of hostilities in the region among forces of claimant countries.

Except for Brunei, all the claimant countries – the Philippines, China, Taiwan, Vietnam and Malaysia – have deployed forward troops in the region.

A naval officer who formerly commanded one of the two gunboats assigned to patrol the Kalayaan islands had to apply this strategy to avoid confrontation with intruding Chinese gunboats.

“The strategy was very effective,” the naval officer said.

“We never moved against them and they never moved against us. My orders coming from higher headquarters then was to challenge the Chinese gunboats but judgment call dictated that it would be suicide for me and my men if I will do so.” He said his gunboat has the capability to engage the Chinese intruders.

“If push comes to shove, may laban,” he said.

Pero ano ang panama ng barko natin sa mga missile-firing capable na mga Chinese vessels.” (We can fight but we’re no match for the missile-firing capable Chinese vessels).

He had to order his escort vessel to withdraw to a more comfortable distance though ready to pick them up from the sea in the event their vessel is sunk by the Chinese vessels, the naval officer said.

China warns vs oil exploration

China warned yesterday against any oil exploration without its consent in waters it claims in the South China Sea after the Philippines announced plans for possible drilling.

The Department of Energy said Wednesday that UK-based Forum Energy had completed a seismic survey for the Reed Bank, near the disputed Spratly Islands.

The Spratlys are called the Nansha Islands in Chinese and claimed by China.

Chinese foreign ministry spokesman Jiang Yu told reporters China holds indisputable sovereignty over the Nansha Islands and adjacent waters.

“Any activities by countries or companies to explore for oil or gas in the sea waters in China’s jurisdiction without the permission of the Chinese government will constitute a violation of China’s sovereignty and... will be illegal and invalid,” she said.

Jiang did not make any direct reference to the Philippines or Forum Energy, nor did she say the survey area was actually in waters under Chinese jurisdiction.

Chinese embassy officials earlier requested a copy of the Forum Energy announcement.

On Wednesday, Forum Energy said it used the survey data to evaluate the commercial potential of the block and to “help identify the best location for possible appraisal wells to be drilled.”

The Reed Bank lies about 150 kilometers east of the Spratlys, which are claimed in whole or in part by Brunei, Malaysia, Taiwan, Vietnam, the Philippines and China.
http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=669874&publicationSubCategoryId=63

With the tendency of the DFA to kiss China's ass, this could be disastrous. :(

Now that freaking BS "Do Nothing" policy of the past administration? Napaka istupido naman talaga nila! So indeed bukod sa ninanakaw nila ang mga perang pang military upgrades, meron na silang ginawang alibi na "Do Nothing" bullshhit!!! :bash::bash::bash:

One of the most stupid country talaga ang pilipinas!

^^ They just made the country an "open country" to China where the Chicoms could take our maritime territory, put up drug labs, and make our country a transit point for drugs bound to the mainland

^^very true!!!... Milking cow ang kalalabasan yan. A very desperate thing to remember bout these issue over China's sweep hungry territory. A very epic fail for these government:ohno:...

We can see China overrunning some Asian countries, desperate to succumb some asian countries for there own root goodness...

^^ The funny thing about the Chicoms, they damn complain to much about the Wests colonization and annexation yet it is doing the same thing. It has done the same thing for the past 50-60 years.

The Filipino adage could be true. Ang magnanakaw galit sa kapwa magnanakaw :lol:

IDK but I feel that China wants to be the new USSR (hopefully, ending like the USSR :lol:)

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The gov't must take the late Fr Conrado Balweg's advice

^^ http://www.nadescom.com/

guys check this site out,... official website din ng AFP,...

Now that freaking BS "Do Nothing" policy of the past administration? Napaka istupido naman talaga nila! So indeed bukod sa ninanakaw nila ang mga perang pang military upgrades, meron na silang ginawang alibi na "Do Nothing" bullshhit!!! :bash::bash::bash:

One of the most stupid country talaga ang pilipinas!

Do Nothing or esle wala silang pabaon. :lol:

Originally Posted by firebar10
Hindi ba nakakaramdam ng hiya ang mga heneral natin at dinadala pa nila sa ibang bansa for goodwill visit, ano yun travelling museum pieces for everyone to ridicule


wala talagang hiya ang militar ng pilipinas,hehehe ang katuwiran nila e gawang stateside naman ang mga bulok na barko.saka kaya ayaw nila e modernize yang arm forces natin nagaantay yang mga kupal na yan ng donation,sobrang kahiya hiya ang ugali,aasa na lang ba tayo the rest of our life sa mga bigay na bulok ng america.gumising naman kayo,maunlad na tayo,bumili kayo ng mga moderno at mga missile capability at mga submarino para hindi kayo laiitin at pagtawanan ng publiko sa mga binibili nyo.

http://www.nadescom.com/

ang afp puro pa pogi lang sa mga proyekto nila para matakpan ang kapalpakan nila at pagnanakaw nila sa kaban ng modernization fund,isipin nyo mas inuna pa magpatayo ng museum kesa sa e modernize ang afp,bibili ng bulok na gamit at sasabihin na part ng modernization ang bulok? e rerefurbish ang bulok at sasabihing part ng modernization.mas bibilib ako sa kanila na kahit na bulok anggamit e may missile capabilility,pero wala talaga tayong maaasahan dyan sa mga kupal na heneral ng pilipinas na puro magnanakaw.

^^ I a 100% agree to Fr. Conrado's advice... we should wipe them out as early as now,... before they cause another Big Problem to our society,...

wala talagang hiya ang militar ng pilipinas,hehehe ang katuwiran nila e gawang stateside naman ang mga bulok na barko.saka kaya ayaw nila e modernize yang arm forces natin nagaantay yang mga kupal na yan ng donation,sobrang kahiya hiya ang ugali,aasa na lang ba tayo the rest of our life sa mga bigay na bulok ng america.gumising naman kayo,maunlad na tayo,bumili kayo ng mga moderno at mga missile capability at mga submarino para hindi kayo laiitin at pagtawanan ng publiko sa mga binibili nyo.

^^ Tama, yan ang gusto nila eh,... pag may mag dodonate na, they will consider it as part of the modernization program,... palpak talaga mga kupal na yun,... :bash:

^^ I think the gov't should also disable the "legal" wing of the NPA. They're the one recruiting from college campuses, and are not hesitant to recruit and brainwash minors. I dunno but I feel like the legal wing is far more threatening than the armed wing coz not many listen to them :lol:, though they damn destroy infrastructure and terrorize the countryside therefore disable our agriculture sector

And these people talk about "human rights". devils don't even have due process of law. Baka gusto nila sila lang may human rights

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and 1 thing bat ayaw nilang tapusin yung digmaan kasi buhay2 din nila yun eh,.... minsan binebenta pa nga nila mga armas at bala nila sa mga rebelde para lang magka-pera,.... sabi ng neighbor namin na galing din sa AFP,... may pera naman yung pinas, kelangan lang nating pondohan yung military kasi para sakin mas uunlad bansa natin kung mataas level ng security natin, mas marami pang investors na pupunta dito pag walang mga bandido at rebelde sa mga probinsya natin,... sino ba naman mag lalagay ng establishment kung saan'g may bakbakan... so i-prioritize muna natin yung military modernization,...

^^ may nabasa ko(try kong hanapin ulit), ang gustong armas ng NPA (usually hinihingi sa mga politiko) eh M-16, di ba yan yung baril ng US Armed Forces? Kala ko ba anti-US sila :lol:

^^ haha sana ak-47 nalang :D anyway, yun kasi yung meron ang Pinas eh kaya M-16 hinihingi nila... wala kasi silang pera para bumili ng armas,...

^^ayaw nila ng bolo, truly Filipino yun. Nakakatawa lang kasi, ang dami nilang rhetorics sa US tapos kokondenahin nila ang US sa pagbebenta ng armas, eh naghahanap din pala sila nun.

^^ haha sana ak-47 nalang :D anyway, yun kasi yung meron ang Pinas eh kaya M-16 hinihingi nila... wala kasi silang pera para bumili ng armas,...

^^:lol::lol:pwede nalng pang.airsoft na mga baril galing japan ... :lol: hayun!!! or simple toy gun made in japan ... oooh diba ang ganda :D lolzness uber!!!

hay naku bakit walang akbayan at gabriela babies sisters and brothers ang ng.rarally contra sa mga inde ka.naisnais na mga gawain sa china???.... the question is where are these people???

^^:lol::lol:pwede nalng pang.airsoft na mga baril galing japan ... :lol: hayun!!! or simple toy gun made in japan ... oooh diba ang ganda :D lolzness uber!!!

hay naku bakit walang akbayan at gabriela babies sisters and brothers ang ng.rarally contra sa mga inde ka.naisnais na mga gawain sa china???.... the question is where are these people???

They are loyal to China, not the Philippines. :lol: Ba't kasi pinapahirapan pa nila sarili nila, magapply nalang sila ng Chinese citizenship, total Maoista naman mga yan. Gaya gaya puto maya sa China. Nandun pa ang malaking picture ng diyos nila na si Mao Tse Tung. :lol:

^^tumpak!!!... hayun naman pala eh ... mga hinayupak sa pork barrel ngayun sa china pah mkiki.sawsaw... hala pa.kainin sila sa mga panda bears.... :lol:

^^ MagkaSARS sila at malason sa Melamin :lol:

^^aie oo nga pala!!!:ohno:..... SARS???? anu yon special administrative region of Sawsawan ...:lol:

btw back to regular programming ng.katuwaan lng hehehe

^^http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Severe_acute_respiratory_syndrome

Lumala ang SARS at nagkalat sa mundo (umabot sa Pilipinas, US at Canada) dahil sa censorship din ng China. Kung inacknowledge nila agad yung epidemic sa lugar nila, malamang hindi lumabas ng bansa nila

I understand the save-face in the Asian culture pero sobrang save-face ginawa ng China dyan to the expense of the people pa talaga

^^lolz alam ku yung SARS nuh!!!....:lol: severe acute respiratory syndrome yan ...

katuwaan lng tsong!!!:D ...

^^ Akala ko hindi mo nabalitaan yun, kaya nagtataka ako. You got me there :lol:

May conspiracy theory nga dyan eh. Gawa daw ng America against China :lol:

^^:lol::lol:pwede nalng pang.airsoft na mga baril galing japan ... :lol: hayun!!! or simple toy gun made in japan ... oooh diba ang ganda :D lolzness uber!!!

hay naku bakit walang akbayan at gabriela babies sisters and brothers ang ng.rarally contra sa mga inde ka.naisnais na mga gawain sa china???.... the question is where are these people???

^^ gustong gusto nga nila yun eh kasi pag bumagsak gobyerno ng Pilipinas sa kamay ng mga intsik tyak na magiging Communist din tayo at yun ang gusto nila,... at sa katangahan din ng gobyerno natin, di malayo mangyari yun,... akala ba nila na gaganda buhay natin pag communist na tayo,... look at North Korea,... eh yung China nga mismo tinanggal iron curtain nila tsaka naging open country din,... it only shows na "Palpak" yung communism,... even the great USSR collapsed,... mayaman lang yung Russia kasi sila yung nakikinabang nun eh,... and i think thats what the China is also planning na tayo din luluhod sa kanila,... :bash:

They are loyal to China, not the Philippines. :lol: Ba't kasi pinapahirapan pa nila sarili nila, magapply nalang sila ng Chinese citizenship, total Maoista naman mga yan. Gaya gaya puto maya sa China. Nandun pa ang malaking picture ng diyos nila na si Mao Tse Tung. :lol:

^^ Agree!!! :okay: para mabawas bawasan din mga salot dito,... at dun naman silang gumawa ng problema,... pagkatapos iiyak iyak nanaman para makabalik lang ng Pinas sa tuwing sila'y bibitayin na,... :ohno:

^^ Communism/Socialism is only good in theory on the economic side. On the political side, it is probably the most prone to power abuse. People get drunk on the political wing of these ideologies. The Philippines has been under the reign of Marcos for 20 years, Arroyo for 10, NPA, "unofficially", 50 years.

Ideologically, Communism/Socialism ought to eliminate class. But in what we've seen in Socialist/Communist countries, they eliminate the middle class, and retain the "working class" and the "privilege class".

Now, classless? :lol:

Vietnam poachers nabbed in Palawan
By Redempto Anda
Inquirer Southern Luzon
First Posted 20:36:00 03/25/2011

Filed Under: Philippines - Regions, Fishing Industry
PUERTO PRINCESA CITY—A Philippine law enforcement team onboard two slow outrigger boats caught six Vietnam nationals poaching inside Palawan waters using a speedboat fitted with three 60 horsepower engines.

Superintendent Rodel Garcia Lota, police chief of Balabac, said the Vietnamese fishers, who were arrested at around 6:30 p.m on Thursday while in the act of poaching in the reef area near the coastline of Balabac, Palawan’s southernmost municipality, fell into the trap set up by the team who posed as local fishermen.

Lota said the Vietnamese were fishing in the area just about 300 meters from the shoreline of Sitio Timbayan, Barangay Ramos, when Philippine authorities approached and outflanked them.

Outmaneuvered

He added the Vietnamese tried to break through the blockade but was outmaneuvered by the law enforcers from the Philippine Navy, Marines, maritime police and environment department and Bureau of Fisheries and Aquatic Resources.

“They tried to escape but gave up when they realized we’ve outmaneuvered them,” Lota told the Inquirer.

Recovered from the unmarked Vietnamese speed boat believed to be operating in tandem with a mother ship were seven live sea turtles, two shells of dead marine turtles, nets and chemicals suspected to be used for stuffing dead marine animals.

Lota said authorities were unable to get the names of the Vietnamese and determine their exact origin because none of them spoke English.

Authorities are expected to bring the Vietnam nationals to Puerto Princesa City for filing of illegal entry and illegal fishing charges.

Untouchable Chinese

Conservation International Philippines (CIP) has identified the Balabac Strait Marine Biodiversity Conservation Corridor as a priority site for marine conservation because of its significance as a major passageway for tuna, sea turtles and marine mammals.

“This is a place where biodiversity faces destruction and exploitation on a daily basis.” said Romy Trono, country director of CIP.

Most poaching cases involving Chinese nationals caught in Palawan waters in the last 10 years have either been dismissed before reaching trial or downgraded to allow for lesser penalties of the convicted parties, said court records and monitoring reports by conservation groups.

Strong influence

CIP cited a most recent case involving Chinese nationals (Huang Pu et. al.) who were arrested in Balabac in November last year.

The case was left hanging when the suspects, who were allowed to post bail, disappeared and never showed up for their scheduled hearing.

A group of environmental NGO advocates, the Palawan NGO Network, claimed that former Justice secretary Alberto Agra sought the dismissal of the charges against the Chinese at the behest of the Chinese embassy.

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/inquirerheadlines/regions/view/20110325-327608/Vietnam-poachers-nabbed-in-Palawan

Isa pa itong communistang bansa na ito. Walang utang na loob sa Pilipinas. Hindi naman sa pinamumukha ko sa kanila, pero mini-China talaga ito. Kung tutuusin, ang mga communistang bansa na ito ang pinakagahaman sa Spratlys

^^ wala naman yung Vietnam against sa'tin,.. well matitigas din ulo ng mga taga dun,... and most of their military weapons are also out dated, mga bigay lang ng USSR like 95% of those,...

^^ Communism/Socialism is only good in theory on the economic side. On the political side, it is probably the most prone to power abuse. People get drunk on the political wing of these ideologies. The Philippines has been under the reign of Marcos for 20 years, Arroyo for 10, NPA, "unofficially", 50 years.

Ideologically, Communism/Socialism ought to eliminate class. But in what we've seen in Socialist/Communist countries, they eliminate the middle class, and retain the "working class" and the "privilege class".

Now, classless? :lol:

^^ yeah, but economic?? i dont think so,... even China opens their economy to increase the investments in their country,... coz as what is says, Trade is very important... look at North Korea again, no trade... so whats happening is their people are dying from hunger,... i think at least 2 million of those North. Koreans died already,... China and Vietnam are just hypocrites for being a communist coz the real image of Communism/Socialism is seen in North Korea,... discipline in China and Vietnam is still the art of communism but economically is capitalism,...

^^ I am not sure but I don't feel comfortable with them given their claims on Spratlys. In case, matalo ang China but the Spratlys remain unsettled, malamang clash with Vietnam... I dunno, just my gut feeling. Could be wrong. Hopefully, they dont grow militarily, else baka mag-asal China din yan

^^ yeah, but economic?? i dont think so,... even China opens their economy to increase the investments in their country,... coz as what is says, Trade is very important... look at North Korea again, no trade... so whats happening is their people are dying from hunger,... i think at least 2 million of those North. Koreans died already,... China and Vietnam are just hypocrites for being a communist coz the real image of Communism/Socialism is seen in North Korea,... discipline in China and Vietnam is still the art of communism but economically is capitalism,...

Kaya nga sabi ko ideologically it is good. Hanggang dun lang. Sorry for not expounding. The idea of classless society is really well, attracting, but people are different. Unfair sa mga masipag na parehas nakukuha ng mga tamad and it is "stale". Politically, Communism/Socialist aren't appealing even in theory. It encourages violence and deceptive propaganda to achieve its goal.

^^ wala naman yung Vietnam against sa'tin,.. well matitigas din ulo ng mga taga dun,... and most of their military weapons are also out dated, mga bigay lang ng USSR like 95% of those,...

pero bilib ako sa bansang yan noong vietnam war, matitigas din hehe, pati US binigyang sakit ng ulo. Ask ko lng noong vietnam war, sinoportahan ba ng chinese ang north vietnam against south vietnam which is supported by the US right?

^^Vietnam had Russia and China supplying them. And from what I've read, the battles are won by the US, but politically, it was a loss because of strong opposition at home and the idiocy of Nixon.

Not all wars all won by "battles".

The funny thing is that, after the Vietnam war, China and Vietnam had their skirmish. Also, Vietnam is looking to the US to help counter China's current muscle-flexing :lol: I wonder the Vietnamese relations with Russia. IDK, I feel like Russia is somewhat "isolationist"?

if ever there's a world war, i think russia and china will go side by side, and maybe alongside other communist countries too. obvious nman sa security council kung sino lagi magka-alyado hehehe

^^ I see Russia and China and Cuba and NK and Iran dictatorships in Latin America as allies. Definitely Russia and China (of course NK being a Chinese puppet). I read an article that they agreed not to use dollars (the intl medium of exchange) in their trade. Besides, both abstained from the UN on Libya.

I am not sure on Vietnam. It is a "socialist" state but it is leaning to its former enemy, the US, more than China.

What baffles me is that these countries can veto why, why just abstain and here they are all talk against NATO. Parang duh? Their supposed 'concern' for the Libyans is fake...especially when Ghadaffi said he will supply oil to China. :lol:

Kaya nga sabi ko ideologically it is good. Hanggang dun lang. Sorry for not expounding. The idea of classless society is really well, attracting, but people are different. Unfair sa mga masipag na parehas nakukuha ng mga tamad and it is "stale". Politically, Communism/Socialist aren't appealing even in theory. It encourages violence and deceptive propaganda to achieve its goal.

^^ exactly,... :okay:

pero bilib ako sa bansang yan noong vietnam war, matitigas din hehe, pati US binigyang sakit ng ulo. Ask ko lng noong vietnam war, sinoportahan ba ng chinese ang north vietnam against south vietnam which is supported by the US right?

^^ actually,... for me, talo yung US nun,... di kasi sanay yung US ng Guerilla warfare,... mga Tunnels at land mines yung Highlights ng VN kaya the combination of the 2 are Ambushes,... pwede rin natin gamitin yung style nila dito in case of invasion kaso lang kulang parin tayo dito ng armas,... the US didn't surrender but they just retreat for good,... also kasi marami nang nag pro-protesta dun dahil sa marami na ring namamatay,... Russia and China din nag bibigay ng supply sa kanila,...

^^halos majority na US-sponsored resolution sa Security Council laging oppose ng China-Russia, syempre ayaw nila ma-dominate ng US :lol: .. And their stance on most issues are "soft".. Parang careful na ayaw silang kalabanin ng Iraq,Nkorea,Libya, etc. or maybe secret/obvious allies lng tlaga sila ng mga regime na yon? hehehe

^^ Sa pagkakaalam ko sa mga nabasa ko, karamihan ng battles nakuha ng US, pati yung Tet Offensive ni Ho nacounter nila. Natalo sila politically dahil sa pressures sa US lalo na nung nalaman yung ginawa ni Nixon.

IMO, we need a very strong navy for a war given our countries geography. Too many islands. We need a strong navy for supplies not to be cut off. Hindi yung parang nangyari sa Phil-Am war. Lakas ng US navy nun, aside from may political arguments pa sa mga revolutionaries (pinapatay ni Aguinaldo si Luna)

^^ actually,... for me, talo yung US nun,... di kasi sanay yung US ng Guerilla warfare,... mga Tunnels at land mines yung Highlights ng VN kaya the combination of the 2 are Ambushes,... pwede rin natin gamitin yung style nila dito in case of invasion kaso lang kulang parin tayo dito ng armas,... the US didn't surrender but they just retreat for good,... also kasi marami nang nag pro-protesta dun dahil sa marami na ring namamatay,... Russia and China din nag bibigay ng supply sa kanila,...

yung din pagkakaalam ko, talo US noon sa guerilla warfare ng north. and if i remember it right, a multinational army supported south VN, like Filipinos, Korea, etc, tama ba?

^^halos majority na US-sponsored resolution sa Security Council laging oppose ng China-Russia, syempre ayaw nila ma-dominate ng US :lol: .. And their stance on most issues are "soft".. Parang careful na ayaw silang kalabanin ng Iraq,Nkorea,Libya, etc. or maybe secret/obvious allies lng tlaga sila ng mga regime na yon? hehehe

Yun nga yung nakakatawang rhetoric nila. They are so pretentious. At least NATO is blunt, etong dalawang ito mejo mapanlinlang, you really have to read them carefully. If they are for humanitarian reasons talaga, they could have vetoed it. Pero abstinence lang ginawa nila. Parang walang kuwenta yung seat nila sa UN. :nuts::nuts:

Tapos sila sigaw ng oil ang habol ng west sa Libya. China? Oil lang naman ang alok ni Ghadaffi

May kasabihan: Ang kapwa magnanakaw galit sa kapwa magnanakaw :lol:

yung din pagkakaalam ko, talo US noon sa guerilla warfare ng north. and if i remember it right, a multinational army supported south VN, like Filipinos, Korea, etc, tama ba?

Yup, ang alam ko multinational din yun, although US dominated troops. Same with Korea. Pagkakaiba eh, di nagreunite ang NK at stalemate ang kinalabasan ng Korean war at technically at war pa ang mga Koreano.

Speaking of, I wonder how many here know that former President Ramos was a Korean War Veteran?

More on PEFTOK

http://peftok.blogspot.com/2009/12/10th-battalion-combat-team-motorized.html

yung din pagkakaalam ko, talo US noon sa guerilla warfare ng north. and if i remember it right, a multinational army supported south VN, like Filipinos, Korea, etc, tama ba?

^^ yah,... talo talaga yung US nun,... these countries are there,.. i think mas maganda pa nga performance ng Philippines dun eh kesa sa mga Kano,... coz we have the same war theater with Vietnam,... anyway, sabi2 lang yun but i still agree,...

May kasabihan: Ang kapwa magnanakaw galit sa kapwa magnanakaw :lol:

^^ just like our politicians na parang correct,... :lol:

Yun nga yung nakakatawang rhetoric nila. They are so pretentious. At least NATO is blunt, etong dalawang ito mejo mapanlinlang, you really have to read them carefully. If they are for humanitarian reasons talaga, they could have vetoed it. Pero abstinence lang ginawa nila. Parang walang kuwenta yung seat nila sa UN. :nuts::nuts:

Tapos sila sigaw ng oil ang habol ng west sa Libya. China? Oil lang naman ang alok ni Ghadaffi

May kasabihan: Ang kapwa magnanakaw galit sa kapwa magnanakaw :lol:

syempre ayaw nila na maraming magagalit na countries sa kanila kaya lagi ganyan position nila. hehehe. With that, they love to let the world know that they are the "good ones" and picture the US as the "bad guys".

^^psychological warfare.

The sad part is that, people from other part of the world see China as the good guy. I can't speak much of Russia since it has no direct threat or whatsoever to us, but China's muscle-flexing when reported in the western media, it is usually tagged as US propaganda. It's not the anti-US sentiment that offends me, but the lack of criticisms on China(even praising that commie country) even when China is clearly on the wrong side(bullying its smaller neighbors).

But I think that is what China is somewhat good at. Deception. Not surprising. It's Maoist propaganda that even the NPA adopted

in case you guys missed this:

Army chief unveils more gear for troops
abs-cbnNEWS.com
Posted at 03/22/2011 5:33 PM | Updated as of 03/22/2011 7:21 PM

MANILA, Philippines - Army chief Lt. Gen. Arturo Ortiz on Tuesday announced the purchase of new equipment for soldiers to improve their capabilities.

Speaking during the Army's 114th foundation anniversary, Ortiz also said more equipment are due for delivery for front line units under the Armed Forces modernization program.

"We vigorously pursued the acquisition of new equipment and weapons under the [Army] Capability Upgrade Program, thereby enhancing our move, shoot, and communicate capabilities," Ortiz said.

Early this year, frontline Army troops were given 137 brand-new KM 250 trucks from South Korea in addition to 590 units earlier issued.

"We also expect 90 units of M35 units of M35 6x6 trucks for delivery from the US this coming June," Ortiz said.

He added that earlier this month, the Army delivered to soldiers around 740 40mm grenade launchers. "We expect an additional 2,200 pieces for delivery by the first quarter next year."

He said the Army is also set to receive 470 night fighting system units, 6 units of 155 howitzers with ammunition, 100 units of 81mm mortar with ammunition, and 335 units of rocket launchers with ammunition.

"Further, we have re-barreled 2,548 M16 rifles and additional 550 are programmed for re-barreling third quarter this year. We also expect next month the delivery of 30,000 pieces of M16 aluminum magazines assembly and another 30,000 additional pieces this year," Ortiz saud.

Around 1,300 sets of Harris man-pack, handheld, and base radios are also due for delivery.

"This will add to the current inventory of 9,147 Harris radios earlier issued to our operating units. Also programmed for acquisition are 1,476 sets (of) handheld and base radios and 210 sets armor vehicle radios," said Ortiz.

He also revealed that 9,786 Kevlar helmets are due to be distributed to the troops in addition to the previous 25,000 pieces earlier issued. He said 2,015 units of body armor were recently delivered to troops.

The Army also plans to upgrade the five-storey Fort Bonifacio General Hospital [FBGH] inside the Army headquarters. "Modesty aside, the FBGH is nearly comparable to the reputable private hospitals in Metro Manila," said Ortiz.

Ortiz, AFP chief Lt. Gen. Eduardo Oban, and Defense Secretary Voltaire Gazmin attended the Army event.

^^ That is good news.

I dont usually go to ABS because their site is just so confusing :lol:

About the Hamilton deal, IMHO it's an ideal replacement for our 67 year old Rajah Humabon.

The Hamilton can be 44-year old on paper but remember that it has been thoroughly modernized during the 1990's...many of its original components were surely replaced by much modern ones.

Plus we can't expect our Navy sailors to be able to suddenly operate supah-hitech missile warships without having the necessary manpower skills needed to run such ships, and for sure the Hamilton can bridge the skill-and-know-how gap needed by them.

Imagine transitioning from WW2 tech to 21st century tech without any experiencing any Cold War tech. That would be plain stupid and illogical from my point of view.

It's a baby step towards real modernization but the thing is that we'll be having a flagship younger than the president. HAHAHA. :)

^^ what exactly is there in the HamilTOINK to transition from when it's just like an oversized Jacinto-class?

is it the size? just 80ft longer than Humabon? is it the CODAG propulsion? i really can't find anything, granting the absence of the AN/SPY, CIWS, and SSM's on board

^^ what exactly is there in the HamilTOINK to transition from when it's just like an oversized Jacinto-class?

is it the size? just 80ft longer than Humabon? is it the CODAG propulsion? i really can't find anything, granting the absence of the AN/SPY, CIWS, and SSM's on board

gas turbine propulsion, an/sps-40 radar, about 2 months of no-refuel continuous patrol capability and most importantly a HELI-PAD and an additional launch platform for our seals.


and visit timawa.net/forum para mas maliwanagan ka....you can't hope to have a ferrari with a jeepney budget.

gas turbine propulsion, an/sps-40 radar, about 2 months of no-refuel continuous patrol capability and most importantly a HELI-PAD.

and visit timawa.net/forum para maliwanagan ka.

there's no surface-search radar daw as per details, tanggal pati CIWS..

and since we already know maritime sealift from our old Besson-class LST's which are equipped with helipads

yung longest range lang yata ang bago dito, and since the PN is not a blue-water navy, ships always have to go back to base after a mission, not really a quantum leap by any stretch, just pure rubbish from the US.. there's nothing practical to transition from, except from the prospect of photo ops and news articles for posterity's sake :bash: :bash: :bash:

About the Hamilton deal, IMHO it's an ideal replacement for our 67 year old Rajah Humabon.

The Hamilton can be 44-year old on paper but remember that it has been thoroughly modernized during the 1990's...many of its original components were surely replaced by much modern ones.

Plus we can't expect our Navy sailors to be able to suddenly operate supah-hitech missile warships without having the necessary manpower skills needed to run such ships, and for sure the Hamilton can bridge the skill-and-know-how gap needed by them.

Imagine transitioning from WW2 tech to 21st century tech without any experiencing any Cold War tech. That would be plain stupid and illogical from my point of view.

It's a baby step towards real modernization but the thing is that we'll be having a flagship younger than the president. HAHAHA. :)

^^ i agree with this,... but i think we just have to train those sailors how to use these modern armaments,... like a tutorial session,... :)

there's no surface-search radar daw as per details, tanggal pati CIWS..

and since we already know maritime airlift from our old Besson-class LST's which are equipped with helipads

yung longest range lang yata ang bago dito, not a quantum leap by any stretch, just pure rubbish from the US.. there's nothing practical to transition from, except from the prospect of photo ops and news articles for posterity's sake :bash: :bash: :bash:

ugh, you failed to mention gas turbines...it's more important than the radar and CIWS imho for now since lots of modern ships now run of gas turbines and not on diesels. Learn to run modern ships first before the weapons and sensors.

and take note: The Hamilton is large enough to accomodate cability upgrades unlike the Jacinto.
http://blog.usni.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/mellon_harpoon.jpg

Remember the MRV project? If that pushes through the Hamilton could serve as the transition ship because of its size and humanitarian capabilities are similar to the MRV. *ehem medical facities inside the ship* *ehem storage capacity*

gas turbine propulsion, an/sps-40 radar, about 2 months of no-refuel continuous patrol capability and most importantly a HELI-PAD and an additional launch platform for our seals.


and visit timawa.net/forum para mas maliwanagan ka....you can't hope to have a ferrari with a jeepney budget.

^^ i also agree with this,... thats why we should increase the budget, anyway, its very necessary since that we have a very bad relation with China in regards with the spratley islands dispute,...

in case you guys missed this:

Army chief unveils more gear for troops
abs-cbnNEWS.com
Posted at 03/22/2011 5:33 PM | Updated as of 03/22/2011 7:21 PM


^^ This is a very, very good news,... at least for a change, it made me feel good... :)

CODAG is a given, as it is old-tech.. bago lang satin kasi wala pa tayo nyan, LOL.. so maybe they want us to learn running a CODAG so that we could dart away on a sprint as fast as we can when PLAN ships turn aggressive? :lol: :lol: :lol:

and knowing the PN, an SSM upgrade is like wishing for the sun, moon, and the stars.. kahit pinakamurang Sea-Skua hindi nabilhan ang tatlong Jacinto :ohno: :bash:

asa pa kayo

Remember the MRV project? If that pushes through the Hamilton could serve as the transition ship because of its size and humanitarian capabilities are similar to the MRV. *ehem medical facities inside the ship* *ehem storage capacity*

^^ i hope and think that it will push through,... we at least need 2-4 units of it considering the transportation of supplies and troops in different parts of our archipelago,... and also for disaster and medical purposes,... :)

CODAG is a given, as it is old.. so maybe they want us to learn running a CODAG so that we could dart away on a sprint as fast as we can when PLAN ships turn aggressive? :lol: :lol: :lol:

and knowing the PN, an SSM upgrade is like wishing for the sun, moon, and the stars.. kahit pinakamurang Sea-Skua hindi nabilhan ang tatlong Jacinto :ohno: :bash:

asa pa kayo

here you are wishing a ferrari....:bash:

The Hamilton is not even meant to confront the PLAN. In retrospect you should be aware that this 44 year old ship would be most likely serving us through humanitarian, ISO and anti-piracy efforts similar to its role in the USCG.

The PN is doing it step by step and not on quantum leaps you're hoping for.

If you really want something like a leap, then ask our holy congress and senate to approve more funds for the PN. Goodluck arguing with the BAYANs. :banana:

^^ i hope and think that it will push through,... we at least need 2-4 units of it considering the transportation of supplies and troops in different parts of our archipelago,... and also for disaster and medical purposes,... :)

based on what i've read on Timawa.net, the project is still alive. :banana:

^^ yah,... talo talaga yung US nun,... these countries are there,.. i think mas maganda pa nga performance ng Philippines dun eh kesa sa mga Kano,... coz we have the same war theater with Vietnam,... anyway, sabi2 lang yun but i still agree,...

PHL never fought militarily in Vietnam! only military nurses, doctors, engineers, and civilian reconstruction personnel working on humanitarian missions.. security battalion at back-up artillery unit lang ang armado na pumunta pero hindi sila lumahok sa actual na opensiba!

The Hamilton is not even meant to confront the PLAN. In retrospect you should be aware that this 44 year old ship would be most likely serving us through humanitarian, ISO and anti-piracy efforts similar to its role in the USCG.

really? to confront or not, the timeliness and the synchronousness of the purchase with the skirmishes in the Spratly's and the statements of the AFP as to the purpose behind the acquisition tells me otherwise

really? to confront or not, the timeliness and the synchronousness of the purchase with the skirmishes in the Spratly's and the statements of the AFP as to the purpose behind the acquisition tells me otherwise

see the big picture, we're acquiring the Hamilton to prepare us for more modern warships that could tangle it up with the PLAN.

In short,
Hamilton = itself not meant to fight PLAN
but
Hamilton = meant to prepare us for ships that could fight the PLAN

The spratlys thing only serves as the catalyst for PN modernization and now i think it serves as a good news.

pag nag usap kayo dito mag tagalog na lang kayo para di maintindihan ng mga chicom. mamya may matutunan pa sila sa atin. problema kasi sa pinas ang daming mga traidor, yan ang kaaway ng bansa, pag wala tayong loyalty sa bansa natin kahit gaano ka modern yung weapons natin, useless rin yan...pero there's no way but to modernize our military talaga. eto lang paraan para di tayo matamathin ng ating kaaway.

^^ i appreciate the AFP's efforts to gear up, but it was a little bit lame for me, exacerbated by the medley of alternative choices that we could have made, but that's just me.. anyway, maybe they really got an irresistible deal in the FMS price who knows

pag nag usap kayo dito mag tagalog na lang kayo para di maintindihan ng mga chicom. mamya may matutunan pa sila sa atin. problema kasi sa pinas ang daming mga traidor, yan ang kaaway ng bansa, pag wala tayong loyalty sa bansa natin kahit gaano ka modern yung weapons natin, useless rin yan...pero there's no way but to modernize our military talaga. eto lang paraan para di tayo matamathin ng ating kaaway.

LOL, kung gusto talagang mag-spy ng mga chicoms eh kukuha sila ng experts tungkol sa Pilipinas....maybe our best hope is to write everything on j3j3m0nic text. :nuts:

LOL, kung gusto talagang mag-spy ng mga chicoms eh kukuha sila ng experts tungkol sa Pilipinas....maybe our best hope is to write everything on j3j3m0nic text. :nuts:

:lol: pede nga :lol:

di na nila kelangan talaga, marami na sa atin...kahit dito nga sa ssc meron:lol:

^^ i appreciate the AFP's efforts to gear up, but it was a little bit lame for me, exacerbated by the medley of alternative choices that we could have made, but that's just me.. anyway, maybe they really got an irresistible deal in the FMS price who knows

People from Timawa are suspecting that also.

Well, if the AFP does it on one time-BIG time acquisitions i'm pretty sure our great meeeejahhh would cry over these and would end up on endless senate hearings, ngayon pang mainit ang AFP sa mata ng mga nagpapagwapong pulitiko. In the end walang mangyayaring modernization.

The AFP is doing it all little by little step by step, patience is a virtue and now i'm just freakin happy that we are seeing actual improvements. :cheers:

People from Timawa are suspecting that also.

Well, if the AFP does it on one time-BIG time acquisitions i'm pretty sure our great meeeejahhh would cry over these and would end up on endless senate hearings, ngayon pang mainit ang AFP sa mata ng mga nagpapagwapong pulitiko. In the end walang mangyayaring modernization.

The AFP is doing it all little by little step by step, patience is a virtue and now i'm just freakin happy that we are seeing actual improvements. :cheers:

Any info re: suggestions to make the "bare" Hamilton a "potent" Navy ship?

Though I agree with most SSC members here that we got a bad deal, we are also not sure that if its a good deal in so far as the acquisition price is concern.

To reiterate my stand, the Hamilton cutter is already a done deal, so the the constructive thing to do is to suggest things that will improve the armament.

Any info re: suggestions to make the "bare" Hamilton a "potent" Navy ship?

Though I agree with most SSC members here that we got a bad deal, we are also not sure that if its a good deal in so far as the acquisition price is concern.

To reiterate my stand, the Hamilton cutter is already a done deal, so the the constructive thing to do is to suggest things that will improve the armament.

i suggest we add more of those 25mm babies...to compensate for the Phalanx.

PHL never fought militarily in Vietnam! only military nurses, doctors, engineers, and civilian reconstruction personnel working on humanitarian missions.. security battalion at back-up artillery unit lang ang armado na pumunta pero hindi sila lumahok sa actual na opensiba!

^^ kaya nga sabi2 lang eh,.... but i think it's true na Philippine troops has actually experienced a combat there,...

^^ kaya nga sabi2 lang eh,.... but i think it's true na Philippine troops has actually experienced a combat there,...

then why did you said those highlighted words in the first place if you really weren't sure? you know what, alleging is completely different from concluding, and from that statement, it was very clear that you were concluding

you are so full of baseless assumptions

About the Hamilton deal, IMHO it's an ideal replacement for our 67 year old Rajah Humabon.

The Hamilton can be 44-year old on paper but remember that it has been thoroughly modernized during the 1990's...many of its original components were surely replaced by much modern ones.

Plus we can't expect our Navy sailors to be able to suddenly operate supah-hitech missile warships without having the necessary manpower skills needed to run such ships, and for sure the Hamilton can bridge the skill-and-know-how gap needed by them.

Imagine transitioning from WW2 tech to 21st century tech without any experiencing any Cold War tech. That would be plain stupid and illogical from my point of view.

It's a baby step towards real modernization but the thing is that we'll be having a flagship younger than the president. HAHAHA. :)

Dude you missed the point there and the understanding why people are dismayed about this buy. The PN can always buy some warship with missile capabilities and why not?

That is why there is this thing we called "training". Everyone can always be immediately trained in a modern warship with missile capability. What's the extra 1 month or 2 months in training filipino sailors in operating missile launchers and it's radar system with all other advance electronic warfare? The philippines has been with the US-RP Balikatan exercise for so many years, and it was just too stupid for the AFP not to send any sailors to be trained, or atleast get familiarized with those advance weapon system.

Any info re: suggestions to make the "bare" Hamilton a "potent" Navy ship?

Though I agree with most SSC members here that we got a bad deal, we are also not sure that if its a good deal in so far as the acquisition price is concern.

To reiterate my stand, the Hamilton cutter is already a done deal, so the the constructive thing to do is to suggest things that will improve the armament.

If they don't wanna add any modern SAM and ASW system, then atleast bring in some CUH or gunship on it with ASW/Anti-ship missile capabilities, and some shoulder-fired anti-ship and "Sting" surface-to-aircraft missile - that is my very least expectation.

In my dream, i see some hardcore Harpoon missile launchers with ammunition (maybe 24-36 warheads), and some ASW system being installed on that new ship in less than a year after the scheduled arrival.

If they don't wanna add any modern SAM and ASW system, then atleast bring in some CUH or gunship on it with ASW/Anti-ship missile capabilities, and some shoulder-fired anti-ship and "Sting" surface-to-aircraft missile - that is my very least expectation.

In my dream, i see some hardcore Harpoon missile launchers with ammunition (maybe 24-36 warheads), and some ASW system being installed on that new ship in less than a year after the scheduled arrival.

Excellent practical and perhaps inexpensive solutions to rearm the Hamilton cutter.

Dude you missed the point there and the understanding why people are dismayed about this buy. The PN can always buy some warship with missile capabilities and why not?

That is why there is this thing we called "training". Everyone can always be immediately trained in a modern warship with missile capability. What's the extra 1 month or 2 months in training filipino sailors in operating missile launchers and it's radar system with all other advance electronic warfare? The philippines has been with the US-RP Balikatan exercise for so many years, and it was just too stupid for the AFP not to send any sailors to be trained, or atleast get familiarized with those advance weapon system.

The PN can buy newer warships, but my point is that our jeepney resources and political will is not yet enough.

Have you heard from the MRV project? It costs 5 Billion petots (relatively cheap IMHO) and we'll be paying it for three years:

2010: 2 Billion
2011: 1.5 Billion
2012: 1.5 Billion (not yet allocated)

We'll still have to wait for the 2012 allocation for this project to roll. So 2013 would be the deciding year for the PN.

Three years for a single ship with limited SSW/ASW capability, and now you're asking for a kickass warship?

Everyone can always be immediately trained in a modern warship with missile capability. What's the extra 1 month or 2 months in training filipino sailors in operating missile launchers and it's radar system with all other advance electronic warfare?

lol @ 2 month's sure lets imagine that they could become proficient in that short a time and not accidentally shoot up half of Manila bay by accident, the question then is which brand new ship could they then serve on in two month's ? given that it takes years to acquire a brand new frigate from determining the requirements to signing contracts and actual delivery ... .

The Chinese have been studying aircraft carriers for nearly 30 years and they are still largely clueless, it would take them at least another decade after the entry into service of their first one before they are able to use such a vessel with proficiency .

Malaysia is new to submarines and this is how they went about it :

Two Scorpène class submarines were ordered by the RMN on June 5, 2002 under a €1.04 billion (about RM4.78 billion) contract. The two Scorpène submarines were built jointly by the French shipbuilder, DCNS, and its Spanish partner, Navantia. They are armed with Blackshark wire-guided torpedoes and Exocet SM-39 sub-launched anti-ship missiles.

The submarine program also included the redeployment of an Agosta class submarine retired from the French Navy, for the training of submarine crews. The training of 150 Malaysian sailors, mainly in Brest, France, represented an important aspect of the program.

The first hull will be named KD Tunku Abdul Rahman and the second hull KD Tun Razak. These vessels are classified as Perdana Menteri Class in service with RMN. The first vessel, KD Tunku Abdul Rahman was launched on October 24, 2007 at the DCNS dockyard, Cherbourg, France[10]

On 3 September 2009,the first Scorpene submarine of Malaysia KD Tunku Abdul Rahman, arrived at a Port Klang naval base on peninsular Malaysia's west coast after a 54-day voyage from France. Another base is also being constructed on Pulau Langkawi, Kedah to provide the RMN with readier access into the Indian Ocean. Ready access into the Pacific Ocean is available via the existing base at Semporna, Sabah.

As a process it took almost a decade and a sum almost equivalent to our entire defence budget and they had to use a retired old second hand French submarine to train the crew ... .

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The PN can buy newer warships, but my point is that our jeepney resources and political will is not yet enough.

Well i havn't seen you here before but you're making sense on this issue, some simply can't grasp the complexity of what they are asking for and the realities of modernising a military .

which leads me to ask, are we seeing a machinegun-totting Huey serving the helo detachment on the Hammy? :lol:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_ta0Mh59HOzo/TSvKrwNJgqI/AAAAAAAAAC0/Lxob_8Wr9Lw/s1600/PAF+S-76+HELI.jpg

I recall the PAF having some Sikorsky S76's which are used by some navies and it seems that the navy still has 2 BO 105's ( below a mexican navy bo 105 onboard a frigate )

http://wapedia.mobi/thumb/9ac5499/en/fixed/470/307/MBB_BO-105_Mexican_Navy.JPEG?format=jpg

sa pagdating ng hamilton dapat lagyan ng missile at gawing anti submarine helo na sikorsky s76's para maging medyo moderno.gamit naman talaga ang sikorsky s76's sa navy ng ibang bansa,bukod sa medyo moderno ang design mabilis pa.lagyan din ng mga missile para katakutan,wala na tayong magagawa nabili na natin ang bulok gawin na lang na kapaki pakinabang.gagastusan lang talaga para maging kapaki pakinabang sa ating navy.para na rin magamit ang s76's pang hunting ng mga submarinong pumapasok sa philippine teretory,pag inarmahan yan maganda ng tinganan good combination ng hamilton at sikorsky S76's magiging navalize ang helo.:banana::okay::okay:

nabasa ko sa isang tread ang PNP planong bumili ng submarino ng dumaong sa subic,hehehe buti pa ang PNP moderno ang mga gamit,meron na silang modern helo na eye on the sky at ang gaganda pa ng mga baril tapos plano pang bumili ng submarine,hehehe talo apng ang philippine navy pag nagkataon,ang sa navy lahat bulok ang binibili.

sa pagdating ng hamilton dapat lagyan ng missile at gawing anti submarine helo na sikorsky s76's para maging medyo moderno.gamit naman talaga ang sikorsky s76's sa navy ng ibang bansa,bukod sa medyo moderno ang design mabilis pa.lagyan din ng mga missile para katakutan,wala na tayong magagawa nabili na natin ang bulok gawin na lang na kapaki pakinabang.gagastusan lang talaga para maging kapaki pakinabang sa ating navy.para na rin magamit ang s76's pang hunting ng mga submarinong pumapasok sa philippine teretory,pag inarmahan yan maganda ng tinganan good combination ng hamilton at sikorsky S76's magiging navalize ang helo.:banana::okay::okay:

walang navalized version ang Sikorsky S-76

top contenders for ASW helo would be the Sea King and the newer Sea-Hawk (derivative of the Black Hawk)

We badly need missile systems for defense purposes.

The Army, Navy, Airforce and even the Marines heed this defense system.

nabasa ko sa isang tread ang PNP planong bumili ng submarino ng dumaong sa subic,hehehe buti pa ang PNP moderno ang mga gamit,meron na silang modern helo na eye on the sky at ang gaganda pa ng mga baril tapos plano pang bumili ng submarine,hehehe talo apng ang philippine navy pag nagkataon,ang sa navy lahat bulok ang binibili.

^^OOzzz!!!:D ... totoo ba yan tsong?! ... eh baka submarinong salbabida eka nga... hehehe aray at naku po:bash:, malay moh bibili sila ng I15 class galing japan ... hehehe try moh baka mg.succeed sila :lol: ...

Indonesia and China agree on joint production of missiles
22 March 2011 439 views No Comment BY: BNO News


JAKARTA, INDONESIA (BNO NEWS) -- Indonesia and China on Tuesday agreed to strengthen their defense cooperation, including the joint production of missiles, the Antara news agency reported.

Indonesian Deputy Defense Minister Sjafrie Sjamsoeddin and Chen Qiufa, head of the Chinese Technological and Industrial Development Agency signed a Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) for the technical cooperation in the defense sector.

The agreement includes the supplying of military equipments, transfer of technology of certain military equipment, joint-marketing, and training programs, according to Brig.Gen. Wayan Midhio, spokesman for the Defense Minsitry.

Indonesia and China also agreed on establishing a joint-missile production in the future through strategic weaponry industry. The Indonesian army currently uses Chinese made missiles.

The Indonesian Defense Forces (TNI) equipped some of its warships with the Chinese C-802 rockets. China is recognized worldwide for it successful development of military equipment.

The Asian giant has been able to develop a medium-range ballistic missile (MRBM) called Dong Feng 21 (DF-21), which is two-stage, solid-propellant, single-warhead system.

On Thursday, Indonesia announced that it plans to produce 1,000 R122 rockets to support its defense system through the Technology Assessment and Application Agency.

The project would be carried out from 2012 to 2014, time in which the Indonesian government also plans to develop a "remote pilot vehicle" and an "area vehicle" as well.

http://channel6newsonline.com/2011/03/indonesia-and-china-agree-on-joint-production-of-missiles/

hehehe ang matatamis na pag.ibibigan ng china at indonesia:bow:

lol @ 2 month's sure lets imagine that they could become proficient in that short a time and not accidentally shoot up half of Manila bay by accident, the question then is which brand new ship could they then serve on in two month's ? given that it takes years to acquire a brand new frigate from determining the requirements to signing contracts and actual delivery ... .

The Chinese have been studying aircraft carriers for nearly 30 years and they are still largely clueless, it would take them at least another decade after the entry into service of their first one before they are able to use such a vessel with proficiency .

Malaysia is new to submarines and this is how they went about it :



As a process it took almost a decade and a sum almost equivalent to our entire defence budget and they had to use a retired old second hand French submarine to train the crew ... .

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Well i havn't seen you here before but you're making sense on this issue, some simply can't grasp the complexity of what they are asking for and the realities of modernising a military .

The PN can buy newer warships, but my point is that our jeepney resources and political will is not yet enough.

Have you heard from the MRV project? It costs 5 Billion petots (relatively cheap IMHO) and we'll be paying it for three years:

2010: 2 Billion
2011: 1.5 Billion
2012: 1.5 Billion (not yet allocated)

We'll still have to wait for the 2012 allocation for this project to roll. So 2013 would be the deciding year for the PN.

Three years for a single ship with limited SSW/ASW capability, and now you're asking for a kickass warship?

I dont know what you guys been thinking. And i been thinking about re-orientation of our sailors.

Im talking about in general, and to be exact, what the philippine military have wasted since 1987. I mean with all these years since we have been in joint training with the US forces and STILL our AFP personnels never got any idea how to operate any advance electronic weapon system just because they been stealing money and not buying what they must have done long time ago? That's BS. That's how stupid they are indeed.

So yes, 2 months are not enough to train these pinoy sailors from 0 knowledge if that was the case. Because all this time i thought the americans have atleast shown them something, or even trained them for this shit long time ago even if the PN didn't freaking buy any of those advance naval vessels that was offered to them.

I mean, some pinoy pilots got trained in operating some advance MRF like the F18 isn't? I thought i read that too years ago.

We badly need missile systems for defense purposes.

The Army, Navy, Airforce and even the Marines heed this defense system.

Definitely. In times like this they shouldn't f--k up again. Most of us here have read those articles specially about this issue of missile procurement. That is why it was surprisingly that the Hamilton is coming to the philippine waters with no other known hostile ships have fired upon it and yet it seemed like already handicapped. :lol:

kala ko pinalubong na yun sa battle: Los Angeles.....kaya hindi na matutuloy punta sa pinas....:lol:

Indonesia and China agree on joint production of missiles
22 March 2011 439 views No Comment BY: BNO News


JAKARTA, INDONESIA (BNO NEWS) -- Indonesia and China on Tuesday agreed to strengthen their defense cooperation, including the joint production of missiles, the Antara news agency reported.

Indonesian Deputy Defense Minister Sjafrie Sjamsoeddin and Chen Qiufa, head of the Chinese Technological and Industrial Development Agency signed a Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) for the technical cooperation in the defense sector.

The agreement includes the supplying of military equipments, transfer of technology of certain military equipment, joint-marketing, and training programs, according to Brig.Gen. Wayan Midhio, spokesman for the Defense Minsitry.

Indonesia and China also agreed on establishing a joint-missile production in the future through strategic weaponry industry. The Indonesian army currently uses Chinese made missiles.

The Indonesian Defense Forces (TNI) equipped some of its warships with the Chinese C-802 rockets. China is recognized worldwide for it successful development of military equipment.

The Asian giant has been able to develop a medium-range ballistic missile (MRBM) called Dong Feng 21 (DF-21), which is two-stage, solid-propellant, single-warhead system.

On Thursday, Indonesia announced that it plans to produce 1,000 R122 rockets to support its defense system through the Technology Assessment and Application Agency.

The project would be carried out from 2012 to 2014, time in which the Indonesian government also plans to develop a "remote pilot vehicle" and an "area vehicle" as well.

http://channel6newsonline.com/2011/03/indonesia-and-china-agree-on-joint-production-of-missiles/

hehehe ang matatamis na pag.ibibigan ng china at indonesia:bow:

Rather good news for the country, eventually.

Pulse Asia: Almost half of Pinoys think AFP is ‘most corrupt’ gov’t agency
ANDREO C. CALONZO, GMA News (http://www.gmanews.tv/story/216336/nation/pulse-asia-almost-half-of-pinoys-think-afp-is-most-corrupt-govt-agency)
03/28/2011 | 11:09 AM


Almost half of all Filipinos think that the Armed Forces of the Philippines (AFP) is the “most corrupt" government agency at present due to various anomalies that embroiled the military in the past months, a survey by pollster Pulse Asia revealed on Monday.

About one in every two Filipinos (48.9 percent) perceived the AFP as the government institution where corruption is most prevalent, followed by the Philippine National Police, which a fourth of the survey’s 1,200 respondents labeled as most corrupt.

The number of respondents who think the military is the most corrupt government agency rose from only 8.1 percent in February 2009 to 48.9 percent in March this year—an increase of more than 40 percentage points, according to Pulse Asia.

The Deparment of Public Works and Highways (DPWH), which was perceived as the most corrupt agency in early 2009, dropped to third place with 18.2 percent due to the “sizeable" increase in the corruption perception in the military.

The survey was conducted from February 24 to March 6 this year, when the congressional probe on the alleged corruption involving former high-ranking military officials based on testimonies by former AFP budget officer George Rabusa and former state auditor Heidi Mendoza made headlines.

The poll was conducted in Metro Manila, parts of Luzon, Visayas and Mindanao through face-to-face interviews. It has a margin of error of plus-or-minus three percent.

siguro ang next survey should be....sino pinaka incompetent na gov't official sa lahat......parang kita ko na ang sagot....di ba bishop cruz?

Pulse Asia: Almost half of Pinoys think AFP is ‘most corrupt’ gov’t agency
ANDREO C. CALONZO, GMA News
03/28/2011 | 11:09 AM


Almost half of all Filipinos think that the Armed Forces of the Philippines (AFP) is the “most corrupt" government agency at present due to various anomalies that embroiled the military in the past months, a survey by pollster Pulse Asia revealed on Monday.

About one in every two Filipinos (48.9 percent) perceived the AFP as the government institution where corruption is most prevalent, followed by the Philippine National Police, which a fourth of the survey’s 1,200 respondents labeled as most corrupt.

The number of respondents who think the military is the most corrupt government agency rose from only 8.1 percent in February 2009 to 48.9 percent in March this year—an increase of more than 40 percentage points, according to Pulse Asia.

The Deparment of Public Works and Highways (DPWH), which was perceived as the most corrupt agency in early 2009, dropped to third place with 18.2 percent due to the “sizeable" increase in the corruption perception in the military.

The survey was conducted from February 24 to March 6 this year, when the congressional probe on the alleged corruption involving former high-ranking military officials based on testimonies by former AFP budget officer George Rabusa and former state auditor Heidi Mendoza made headlines.

The poll was conducted in Metro Manila, parts of Luzon, Visayas and Mindanao through face-to-face interviews. It has a margin of error of plus-or-minus three percent.



matagal na tayong pinagnanakawan ng mga heneral ng pilipinas,dapat sa kanila ina ambush kasama ng pamilya nilang nakikinabang sa ninakaw ng magnanakaw na kanilang ama,wala bang takot sa diyos ang mga heneral na yan? o talagang diyos nila ay salapi na binabayad natin sa tax,nagpapaka kuba tayo sa pagbabayad ng tax tapos nanakawin ng mga kupal na heneral na yan.mga salot sila sa bayan na dapat mawala at para naman di tularan ng mga jr officers.hanggat nandyan ang corrupt general na yan hindi uunlad ang AFP natin at ang bayan.mga taksil sila sa bayan na dapat mawala sa mundo.:cheers::nuts::bash::lol:

Indonesia and China agree on joint production of missiles
22 March 2011 439 views No Comment BY: BNO News


JAKARTA, INDONESIA (BNO NEWS) -- Indonesia and China on Tuesday agreed to strengthen their defense cooperation, including the joint production of missiles, the Antara news agency reported.

Indonesian Deputy Defense Minister Sjafrie Sjamsoeddin and Chen Qiufa, head of the Chinese Technological and Industrial Development Agency signed a Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) for the technical cooperation in the defense sector.

The agreement includes the supplying of military equipments, transfer of technology of certain military equipment, joint-marketing, and training programs, according to Brig.Gen. Wayan Midhio, spokesman for the Defense Minsitry.

Indonesia and China also agreed on establishing a joint-missile production in the future through strategic weaponry industry. The Indonesian army currently uses Chinese made missiles.

The Indonesian Defense Forces (TNI) equipped some of its warships with the Chinese C-802 rockets. China is recognized worldwide for it successful development of military equipment.

The Asian giant has been able to develop a medium-range ballistic missile (MRBM) called Dong Feng 21 (DF-21), which is two-stage, solid-propellant, single-warhead system.

On Thursday, Indonesia announced that it plans to produce 1,000 R122 rockets to support its defense system through the Technology Assessment and Application Agency.

The project would be carried out from 2012 to 2014, time in which the Indonesian government also plans to develop a "remote pilot vehicle" and an "area vehicle" as well.

http://channel6newsonline.com/2011/03/indonesia-and-china-agree-on-joint-production-of-missiles/

hehehe ang matatamis na pag.ibibigan ng china at indonesia:bow:

patamis/panligaw para kumampi sa kanila tapos maiwan sa kangkungan ang pinas. pag tatanga tanga pa ang pinas ewan san na pupulutin ang interest nito sa spratly:ohno: dapat mag cooperate rin yung pinas sa chikomunistang eto para yon ang gamitin nya panghabol/pamatay sa kanila:lol:

Pulse Asia: Almost half of Pinoys think AFP is ‘most corrupt’ gov’t agency
ANDREO C. CALONZO, GMA News
03/28/2011 | 11:09 AM


Almost half of all Filipinos think that the Armed Forces of the Philippines (AFP) is the “most corrupt" government agency at present due to various anomalies that embroiled the military in the past months, a survey by pollster Pulse Asia revealed on Monday.

About one in every two Filipinos (48.9 percent) perceived the AFP as the government institution where corruption is most prevalent, followed by the Philippine National Police, which a fourth of the survey’s 1,200 respondents labeled as most corrupt.

The number of respondents who think the military is the most corrupt government agency rose from only 8.1 percent in February 2009 to 48.9 percent in March this year—an increase of more than 40 percentage points, according to Pulse Asia.

The Deparment of Public Works and Highways (DPWH), which was perceived as the most corrupt agency in early 2009, dropped to third place with 18.2 percent due to the “sizeable" increase in the corruption perception in the military.

The survey was conducted from February 24 to March 6 this year, when the congressional probe on the alleged corruption involving former high-ranking military officials based on testimonies by former AFP budget officer George Rabusa and former state auditor Heidi Mendoza made headlines.

The poll was conducted in Metro Manila, parts of Luzon, Visayas and Mindanao through face-to-face interviews. It has a margin of error of plus-or-minus three percent.



matagal na tayong pinagnanakawan ng mga heneral ng pilipinas,dapat sa kanila ina ambush kasama ng pamilya nilang nakikinabang sa ninakaw ng magnanakaw na kanilang ama,wala bang takot sa diyos ang mga heneral na yan? o talagang diyos nila ay salapi na binabayad natin sa tax,nagpapaka kuba tayo sa pagbabayad ng tax tapos nanakawin ng mga kupal na heneral na yan.mga salot sila sa bayan na dapat mawala at para naman di tularan ng mga jr officers.hanggat nandyan ang corrupt general na yan hindi uunlad ang AFP natin at ang bayan.mga taksil sila sa bayan na dapat mawala sa mundo.:cheers::nuts::bash::lol:

dapat ibalik na ang firing squad sa mga mokong na to. dapat palitan na ng mga kabataang military ang ating afp

siguro ang next survey should be....sino pinaka incompetent na gov't official sa lahat......parang kita ko na ang sagot....di ba bishop cruz?

Yes, its Ombudsman Merceditas Gutierrez. For letting go (thru a plea bargaining agreement) corrupt Carlos Garcia who milked the AFP and those Euro Generals of the PNP-most if not all PMA alumni.

I dont know what you guys been thinking. And i been thinking about re-orientation of our sailors.

Im talking about in general, and to be exact, what the philippine military have wasted since 1987. I mean with all these years since we have been in joint training with the US forces and STILL our AFP personnels never got any idea how to operate any advance electronic weapon system just because they been stealing money and not buying what they must have done long time ago? That's BS. That's how stupid they are indeed.

So yes, 2 months are not enough to train these pinoy sailors from 0 knowledge if that was the case. Because all this time i thought the americans have atleast shown them something, or even trained them for this shit long time ago even if the PN didn't freaking buy any of those advance naval vessels that was offered to them.

I mean, some pinoy pilots got trained in operating some advance MRF like the F18 isn't? I thought i read that too years ago.

The Joint exercises or Balikatan does not necessarily mean the Americans are obliged to train our troops to operate modern weapons.

Our troops/pilots/sailors have been allowed to "experience" operating those systems like the F-18 you mentioned BUT remember it's different from "training to acquire proficiency", so that means your assumption that "some pinoy pilots got trained in operating some advance MRF" is not true.

It takes years of continuous training to get pilot certification on the f-18, and a few days of Balikatan annually is not enough. Same goes for other hi tech weapons.

kala ko pinalubong na yun sa battle: Los Angeles.....kaya hindi na matutuloy punta sa pinas....:lol:


No kidding!!! :lol::lol::lol:

The Joint exercises or Balikatan does not necessarily mean the Americans are obliged to train our troops to operate modern weapons.

Our troops/pilots/sailors have been allowed to "experience" operating those systems like the F-18 you mentioned BUT remember it's different from "training to acquire proficiency", so that means your assumption that "some pinoy pilots got trained in operating some advance MRF" is not true.

It takes years of continuous training to get pilot certification on the f-18, and a few days of Balikatan annually is not enough. Same goes for other hi tech weapons.

Yeah i guess i must agree. :cheers:

BUT, they should though train our troops NOW how to operate these advance technology shit so that atleast it will prepare our AFP personnels for the future acquisitions - for saying this though, that's IF the AFP are really serious in buying those stuff they badly needed! Otherwise what's the use of having a Balikatan military exercise, just some american show off? It's BS right?

No kidding!!! :lol::lol::lol:

naawa siguro ang mga alien....at pinalutang ulit.... ng malaman sa pinas na ang barko na yun....:lol::lol:

Yeah i guess i must agree. :cheers:

BUT, they should though train our troops NOW how to operate these advance technology shit so that atleast it will prepare our AFP personnels for the future acquisitions - for saying this though, that's IF the AFP are really serious in buying those stuff they badly needed! Otherwise what's the use of having a Balikatan military exercise, just some american show off? It's BS right?

^^ Agree,... masaklap niyan is 2016 pa mag train yung AFP natin para 2025 na tayo magkaroon ng makabagong kagamitan :lol: ,... anyway, we really should start training them now so that in 2016 we have those Hi tech weapons already,... we also have to start as early as NOW acquiring those simple Modern stuffs,...

like the Archerside,...
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/21/Archerside_commons.jpg

though we still need more of 155mm Howitzers,... but at least 4-7 of these will do,...

and some of these for patrol,...
BvS10
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fc/H%C3%A4gglunds_BvS10.jpg/300px-H%C3%A4gglunds_BvS10.jpg

:)

^^ the acquisition of SIX (6) 155mm howitzers, additional ACV-300s and lastly hundreds of brand new RPG-7s launchers with corresponding ammo are reportedly underway. Cheers.

^^ how many ACV-300's like a 110 right? yeah, we already have 6 of those 155mm Howeez but i think we still need more like 20 of them and also more Bazookas,... anyway, its nice to know that at least these men already have this stuffs like the Night Fighting systems :) hmmm RPG-7s??

u mean like this??

http://www.lebaneseforces.com/images/weapons/RPG7.jpg

naawa siguro ang mga alien....at pinalutang ulit.... ng malaman sa pinas na ang barko na yun....:lol::lol:
hayop sana nandito at nagbbasa yung mga kurap na halimaw nayan! :rofl:

Gen. Oban should not succumb to the dictates of the syndicate of generals in the AFP that love to buy junk armaments from the US.


AFP gets P8B to hike



BY VICTOR REYES
Malaya Business Insights
March 29, 2011


ARMED Forces chief Gen. Eduardo Oban yesterday said President Aquino has earmarked P8 billion for the acquisition of naval and air assets needed to increase military presence in Palawan which is near the disputed Spratlys Islands.

He said the military is preparing a list of equipment, including vessels and long-range patrol aircraft, which will be acquired using the earmarked funds.

Oban said the funds are "for the initial development of our capability to have more presence in Palawan."

"That’s why we are pushing for capability development so we can really safeguard our interest, particularly (in the area)," he added.

Defense and military officials have admitted they lack sea and air assets to protect the country’s interest in the dispute over the Spratlys Island – a chain of potentially oil and minerals rich islands and islets.

The Spratlys Island, located west of Palawan, is being claimed in part or in whole by the Philippines, China, Taiwan, Malaysia, Brunei and Vietnam. Of the claimant-countries, China is the strongest in terms of military might.

"Perhaps the President saw our long-standing needs in terms of capability in the area," said Oban when asked what prodded the President to earmark the funds.

Asked if the fortification of facilities by some claimant-countries in the disputed area is among reasons, Oban just said, "Our mandate is we have to protect our interest in the area."

On March 2, two Chinese vessels harassed a Department of Energy vessel on oil exploration at the Reed Bank, which is 150 kilometers from the Spratlys.

The Chinese vessels reportedly told the DOE personnel to stop their activities in the area because it was Chinese territory. The military maintained the area is well within the Philippine territory or about 150 kilometers of Puerto Princesa City.

Oban, commenting on China’s warning for the Philippines to stop oil explorations in the Reed Bank, said: "That’s within the Philippine territory. That’s within 80 nautical miles off the coast of Palawan. It is our mandate to protect our resources in that particular area."

Oban also revealed that the military has earmarked P31 million to repair the airstrip at the Pagasa island, a large island that is part of the Spratlys, which is occupied by Filipino troops. The airstrip is so dilapidated that top defense and military officials, aboard a C-130 plane, failed to land on the island during a scheduled visit last February.

Oban said the repair would be undertaken "as soon as possible."

^^ Php 8-B? baka maubos na yan sa Hamiltoink

^^ Php 8-B? baka maubos na yan sa Hamiltoink

may sukli pa yan pare....








piso...:nuts:

i am new here i have come across this..

indeed USCGC Hamilton will be transferred to Phil Navy

http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l593/romzangelo/ham.png

Gen. Oban should not succumb to the dictates of the syndicate of generals in the AFP that love to buy junk armaments from the US.


AFP gets P8B to hike



great news!!:banana::banana:
anu-anong mga "assets" kaya ang plano nilang bilihin?? kasama na ba dito ung para sa hamilton??:dunno:

:cheers:

^^ Php 8-B? baka maubos na yan sa Hamiltoink

No....the Hamilton's cost would not probably exceed the P5billion mark of the brand new MRV (heavier, much more capable)

Somehow me thinks part of the cost of the Hamilton is covered by the US Military Assistance program so i'm expecting the Hamilton to be cheap.

^^ how many ACV-300's like a 110 right? yeah, we already have 6 of those 155mm Howeez but i think we still need more like 20 of them and also more Bazookas,... anyway, its nice to know that at least these men already have this stuffs like the Night Fighting systems :) hmmm RPG-7s??


On the pipeline now is 14 ACV-300s .

Yes, we'll be acquiring new RPG-7s. Most probably westernized versions of it.

great news!!:banana::banana:
anu-anong mga "assets" kaya ang plano nilang bilihin?? kasama na ba dito ung para sa hamilton??:dunno:

:cheers:

Probably no, since the Hamilton is a done deal.

The article says the PN will still have to list what it wants to buy for that P8 Billion. Mentioned are vessels (probably the MRV or more MPACs) and long range patrol aircraft.

That is a very nice piece of news, finally we are taking those important steps towards a more credible military.

We hope that this fund would be of good use for the AFP, for purchase of naval and air assets.:) we will see.

Philippines spending $184 million for planes, radar to maintain presence in Spratlys

MANILA, Philippines - President Benigno “Noynoy” Aquino III has ordered stronger military presence in Palawan, near the disputed Spratly Islands, by allocating P8 billion for the acquisition of naval and air assets.

Armed Forces Chief of Staff General Eduardo Oban told reporters they are now preparing a list of equipment needed, which would include Navy vessels, and Air Force assets like long-range patrol aircraft, and air defense radar, among others.

Oban said the P8 billion is "for the initial development of our capability to have more presence in Palawan…That's why we are pushing for capability development so we can really safeguard our interest, particularly [in the area]."

The oil- and marine-rich Spratly Islands, located west of Palawan, is being claimed in part or in whole by the Philippines, China, Taiwan, Malaysia, Brunei and Vietnam.

"Perhaps the President saw our long-standing needs in terms of capability in the area," said Oban.

Asked if it had something to do with previous incidents there, Oban said: "Our mandate is we have to protect our interest in the area.”

Last March 2, a Chinese patrol vessel supposedly harassed a Philippine oil exploration ship in an area near the Spratlys.

It prompted the government to file a protest with China. It said the exploration was done outside the jurisdiction of Palawan, not in a contested area.

Oban also revealed that the military has earmarked P31 million to repair the airstrip at the Pag-asa Island, a large island that is part of the Spratlys and is currently occupied by Filipino troops.

Last February, defense and military officials were not able to land because it was too dilapidated.

He said the repairs will have to be done soon.

“We need to address that immediately. As a matter of fact, there are funds for that," said Oban.

To put this in perspective

One week after an international military coalition intervened in Libya, the cost to U.S. taxpayers has reached at least $600 million, according figures provided by the Pentagon.

U.S. ships and submarines in the Mediterranean have launched at least 191Tomahawk cruise missiles from their arsenals, costing $268.8 million, the Pentagon said.

U.S. warplanes have dropped 455 precision guided bombs, costing tens of thousands of dollars each.

A downed Air Force F-15E fighter jet will cost more than $60 million to replace.

And operation of ships and aircraft, guzzling ever-more-expensive fuel to maintain their positions off the Libyan coast and in the skies above, could reach millions of dollars a week, experts say.

"Each sortie, even if it drops no munitions, is very pricey," said Winslow Wheeler of the Center for Defense Information. "These airplanes cost us tens of thousands of dollars to operate per hour, and the fancier you get in terms of planes, the costs get truly astounding."

The three B-2 stealth bombers that flew from Missouri to Libya and back on an early bombing mission each cost an estimated $10,000 per hour to fly, a defense official said.

That means the planes, each on a 25-hour round-trip flight, ran up a bill of $750,000, and the 45 Joint Direct Attack Munitions (JDAM) they dropped added at least $1.3 million more.

So far the Pentagon has financed the mission to take out Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi's air defenses and disrupt his attacks on opposition forces using money in its existing budget, which has room for unanticipated military actions. The White House has not been forced to ask Congress for additional funds for the campaign.

Service member salaries, fuel costs and equipment maintenance are all part of annual military operating budgets. And hundreds of munitions, including the $1.4 million cruise missiles, are acquired each year and routinely used in action and training, officials say.

But experts say the administration may have to submit an emergency supplemental budget request for Libya later this year, assuming U.S. involvement in the international military operation does not end swiftly.

The cost of operating the no-fly zone over Libya alone could cost the U.S. an estimated $30 million to $100 million a week, a study by the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments found.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/libya-us-intervention-fly-zone-gadhafi-cost-taxpayers/story?id=13242136

Just putting running costs in perspective for a better understanding of how much it does to maintain and run modern equipment and capabilities, and as you can read above the daily or even hourly cost of a single modern fightercraft is more than the average citizens yearly income .

But the extra spending for the Spratleys is definetely a good start .

Yes we should consider operating cost first, buying new ships will not entitle us well-equipped but do we have the money to maintain such modern and new ships? this I think will make us think twice on purchasing new ones.

Thus, for me the Hamilton is a good start with simple weapons suited for our budget and environment.:)

^^
B2, F15, and F18's are twin engine air-crafts, so it's expected already to be a gas guzzler.

Well, if we can purchase a squadron of f16's under EDA (excess defense articles) at a amicable price that's better. Our pilots are capable of flying those babies. We just need to build facilities and train more pilots.

For reconnaissance at spratlys, we can use propelled aircrafts like our sf-260/t-41 to patrol our shores. It's very frugal and not that pricey to operate unlike jets.

B2, F15, and F18's are twin engine air-crafts, so it's expected already to be a gas guzzler.

Well we don't really need jets to patrol all the time we need specialized aircraft to do the routine patrols that are better for monitoring both air and sea sending jets only when needed thus reducing cost, this is why i really liked Thailands Saab package which includes erieye surveillance plane and a dozen Gripen fighters, the net centric system allows for a very efficient and cost effective means of covering territory plus the aircraft themselves are modern yet amongst the most cost effective in the market today .

An ideal modern yet frugal solution in my opinion would be a mix of Erieye planes 2 or 3 followed by a dozen Gripens and perhaps a dozen MQ9 Reaper drones which can also be used against piracy and the insurgency effectively replacing the Bronco's and whatnot, this would be ideal as an interim solution until our gdp and economy can grow 10-20 years down the road to where we can realistically buy even more sophisticated weapons .

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MQ 9 Reaper drone powered by a simple turboprop engine and remotely controlled from Las Vegas ..., one of these can patrol the entire Spratleys and provide vital air support at a fraction of the cost .

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The erieye the gripen and the mq9 reapers can easily be integrated in a net centric system which is highly efficient and cost effective while still providing great capability .

i am new here i have come across this..

indeed USCGC Hamilton will be transferred to Phil Navy

http://i1125.photobucket.com/albums/l593/romzangelo/ham.png

WOW AT LAST... MAY BAGO NA TAYONG NAVAL SHIP... (sa atin bago yan..)
SA KANILA... (junk na yan... ) :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

quoted grail from Timawa.net

"Let's watch for other developments, it seems this administration is dead serious in developing and protecting our oil finds. DOE has allocated 2B pesos every year (over three years) for the acquisition of new assets for the Navy and Air Force focused on the protection of oil exploration efforts. And note that DOE funding is separate from the AFP modernization funds."

WOW AT LAST... MAY BAGO NA TAYONG NAVAL SHIP... (sa atin bago yan..)
SA KANILA... (junk na yan... ) :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

to put in a better perspective, it's better to have something than nothing at all.
Remember 2001-2010??? Ano ba nadagdag na barko sa PN noong panahong iyon?

It maybe junk for the USCG, but in relative to our current fleet right now the Hamilton is arguably formidable.

and remember the Hamilton underwent extensive modernization and refurbishment of its components during the 90's. So in essence it's not as old as it is on paper.

Also take note that Thai Navy operates 2 Knox class frigates also built during the 60's that DID NOT undergo extensive refurbishment like the Hamilton (though the Knox are much heavier armed).

WOW AT LAST... MAY BAGO NA TAYONG NAVAL SHIP... (sa atin bago yan..)
SA KANILA... (junk na yan... ) :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

another accomplishment by pnoy and friends.....:lol:

yung tanong Remember 2001-2010??? Ano ba nadagdag na barko sa PN noong panahong iyon?

MARAMI ...mag back read ka....o visit philippine navy site...at modernization....tingnan mo ang mga video ng manilawala ka at mainis ka sa ginawang kahunghangan ng bagong admin....na kumuha ng bulok na barko ng amerika...:bash: