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waraywaray architect
April 21st, 2012, 05:17 PM
Occupy Chinese Embassy!

hugodiekonig
April 21st, 2012, 05:23 PM
I love this http://gh.rc.gov.cn/ especially the shout at the intro :rock::righton::rock::righton::rock::righton::rock::righton::rock::righton::rock::righton::rock::righton::rock::righton::rock::righton:

mAiNsTrEaMhunter
April 21st, 2012, 05:26 PM
Occupy Chinese Embassy!

kung occupy sa'yo, sa akin naman Burn Chinese Embassy! :lol:

leofriends
April 21st, 2012, 05:31 PM
^^ Burn? masyado nmn makatao yun.. Bombahin mo na lang kaya?

mAiNsTrEaMhunter
April 21st, 2012, 05:33 PM
^^ haha..oo nga pala Bomb Chinese Embassy! :okay::okay:

hugodiekonig
April 21st, 2012, 05:35 PM
dapat sugurin na ng mga aktibista ang Chinese embassy, huwag US embassy. Sa kaaway dapat makipag-away

Askal82
April 21st, 2012, 05:41 PM
and the war rhetoric begins...:popcorn::ohno:

China top military paper warns US of confrontation over South China Sea
CHRIS BUCKLEY, Reuters April 21, 2012 2:08pm

Oh please!! They don't even have the balls of steel to confront them. Instead of that, they should send in their toys and war planes to Okinawa just how the Japanese did it to the Pearl Harbor. :lol:

Wind Shear
April 21st, 2012, 05:41 PM
Just checked the website and until now, sites are defaced. Take that!

Knight2K
April 21st, 2012, 05:42 PM
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This was the embedded music. :)

Astig. Paboritokoto eh.

Also, gawinnating mahirapmabasa ngmga tsekwayung postsnatinpara disila makagamitng pangtranslate. Hanggatmaaari tagaloglang gamitingwikadito :)))

waraywaray architect
April 21st, 2012, 05:51 PM
Just checked the website and until now, sites are defaced. Take that!
They fired the first hacking shot... Now they go figure who hack wallop them.

El_Toro
April 21st, 2012, 05:57 PM
Cyber war

Mercato
April 21st, 2012, 06:07 PM
Those are plain conventional unguided rockets than can only be used within visual range.



The PAF is capable of manufacturing their own rockets -- 2.75 inch rockets for their helicopter gunships therefore we can just ask them to make it bigger.



Where's the link to your news source, please? I just hope it's not a blog.The websites Hacked:

Chinese University Media Union (UMU) - http://star.chinaumu.org/

China Youth Online - http://v.cyol.com/

P. Loft Youth Hostel - http://www.ploft.cn/

Chinese government website - http://gh.rc.gov.cn/ Ajajajaja, :pepper: :pepper: We have the capacity to build our own rockets. And we have the capacity for cool hacking & other computer tricks. Ergo, combine these and puede tayong gumawa ng guided missile for the killer drones. Things are looking up. Puedeng maglagay ng sistema o network of guided drones sa mga nakatagong puwesto sa Palawan at West Luzon. The main islands will be difficult to reach and in turn can provide a killer drone umbrella for Scarborough. No more need to risk Filipino sailors, just let the drones do it. :lol: :lol:

Nabartek
April 21st, 2012, 06:41 PM
Thence the problem is not diplomatic but rather monetary. ;) Like everything else about the current state of the AFP, that is...

I was wondering id we can give non-monetary exhanges with the us and potential allies in exhange for high tech weaponry?

Tipong barter ba ? :lol:

waraywaray architect
April 21st, 2012, 06:57 PM
I was wondering id we can give non-monetary exhanges with the us and potential allies in exhange for high tech weaponry?

Tipong barter ba ? :lol:

Base militar in exchange for high tech weaponry.
Or, US statehood referendum to make it free...

Nabartek
April 21st, 2012, 07:02 PM
The first might work, but the second I doubt.... I bet they do not want to inherit our corrupt politicians :lol:

Nabartek
April 21st, 2012, 07:13 PM
DFA: China inflaming sea dispute (http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/04/20/12/dfa-china-inflaming-sea-dispute)

China sends advanced patrol ship to Scarborough

Activists demand withdrawal of Chinese vessels

MANILA, Philippines (2nd UPDATE) - China's reported deployment of a high tech marine patrol ship at a disputed area in the South China Sea may hamper ongoing talks for a diplomatic settlement, a Philippine Department of Foreign Affairs (DFA) spokesperson said on Friday.

The most recent dispute is well into its second week, with a Philippine coast guard ship and two Chinese maritime surveillance vessels faced off near the Scarborough Shoal in waters believed to be rich in oil and gas.

Chinese state media reported on Thursday that Beijing had sent its most advanced fishery patrol ship to the South China Sea to safeguard Chinese fishing boats in the area as the standoff showed no sign of ending.

Philippine Foreign Affairs spokesperson Raul Hernandez said the government received information of a white Chinese civilian fishing vessel entering the shoal earlier on Friday, but did not confirm if it was the reported advanced marine vessel that sailed off from China.

Hernandez said China's reported deployment of its most advanced fishing vessel may be interpreted as a sign of aggression that could destabilize ongoing negotiations.

"The agreement was to defuse the tension. The agreement was not to escalate the situation in this Scarborough Shoal. But with the arrival of this new ship we see this action as an aggravation to the situation in the Scarborough Shoal," he said.

Hernandez said while both parties have conflicting claims on the disputed waters, both parties have agreed not to impose actions that could aggravate the situation.

Three Chinese vessels are currently in a standoff with one Philippine Coast guard civilian vessel with situations "relatively calm", he said.

Hernandez said the Philippines is still optimistic of a diplomatic settlement with China, saying they hope Beijing will agree to their invitation to settle the matter at an international court.

"The world knows that China has more ships and more airplanes than the Philippines has, and we cannot compete in this manner. We cannot solve this case in this manner, we are committed to a diplomatic solution," he said.

Activists demand that China withdraw vessels

Meantime, about 300 activists marched in front of the Chinese embassy in Manila's business district on Friday (April 20), demanding China's withdrawal of its vessels from the disputed area in the South China Sea.

Protesters carried placards and banners condemning China's presence, with some chanting "Fight for our sovereignty!".

Activists condemned China's decision to increase its naval presence and called for the case to be judged by an international court.

"We're calling on the Chinese government to immediately and unconditionally remove all of its naval vessels in the area, respect Philippine sovereignty and marine jurisdiction over the area. We are also calling on the Chinese government to cease and desist from its illegal fishing and marine poaching in the area, and we are calling on the Chinese government to go with the Philippine government to the international tribunal of the law of the sea to peacefully and amicably resolve this issue," said Emman Hizon, spokesperson of Akbayan Party.

China has always said it preferred to settle disputes bilaterally, rather than having international involvement.

The Philippines and China have traded diplomatic protests over the confrontation, with the Philippines complaining of intrusion and illegal fishing, and China saying its fishermen were harassed.

The small group of rocky islets, known in the Philippines as the Panatag Shoal but which the Chinese call Huangyan, is about 124 nautical miles off the main Philippine island of Luzon, near a former U.S. Navy base in Subic Bay.

The dispute is one of myriad of conflicting claims over islands, reefs and shoals in the South China Sea that pit China against the Philippines, Vietnam, Brunei, Malaysia and Taiwan.

Nabartek
April 21st, 2012, 07:19 PM
Totoo ba itong nababasa ko? :lol:

Wait, parang parroted yung Roman Empire allegory ah? :lol: If he is serious, he can tell the NPA to sabotage the Chinese ships :lol

Sison chides China for ‘absurd’ Panatag claim (http://globalnation.inquirer.net/34279/sison-chides-china-for-absurd-panatag-claim)

The founder of the Maoist party in the Philippines disapproves of what he calls China’s imperialist and capitalist designs in the West Philippine Sea including the Panatag Shoal, where Chinese poachers triggered a standoff between Philippine and Chinese authorities.

Jose Maria Sison, founder of the Communist Party of the Philippines, said China’s historical claims over what it calls the South China Sea amount to an absurdity, “as this would be like Italy claiming … all areas previously occupied by the Roman Empire.”

“Chinese historical claims since ancient times amount to an absurdity as this would be like Italy claiming as its sovereign possession all areas previously occupied by the Roman Empire,” said Sison, now also the chair of the International League of Peoples’ Struggle.

“The name China Sea was invented by European cartographers and should not lead anyone to think that the entire sea belongs to China. In the same vein, neither does the entire Indian Ocean belong to India,” Sison said.

Sison’s remarks came in response to questions posed by Bayan Secretary General Renato Reyes about the standoff between the Philippines and China at Panatag Shoal, internationally known as Scarborough Shoal.

Bayan, the nominated section of the National Democratic Front of the Philippines (NDFP), shared Sison’s answers with the Inquirer by e-mail.

Definition basis

“The [United Nations Convention on the Laws of the Sea] is the strongest legal basis for the definition of the territorial sea and [exclusive economic zone] of the Philippine archipelago,” Sison said in a rare agreement with the position of the government.

“Also, archaeological evidence shows that the islands, reefs and shoals at issue have been used by inhabitants of what is now the Philippines since prehistoric times,” he added.

President Benigno Aquino III, in his statements on disputed territories in the West Philippine Sea, has repeatedly referred to the Unclos and its provision for a 200-nautical-mile exclusive zone in explaining the legitimacy of the country’s claims in the disputed waters.

“As a matter of principle, the Filipino people must assert their national sovereignty and Philippine territorial integrity over the issue of the Spratlys [Kalayaan] and other islands, reefs and shoals [that] are well within the 200-nautical mile [exclusive economic zone] defined by the [Unclos],” Sison said.

“According to the Philippine reactionary government, it submitted on time to the UN the necessary scientific and technical grounds to define the Philippine 200-mile EEZ under Unclos,” Sison noted.

He said there was archaeological proof that “the islands, reefs and shoals at issue have been used by inhabitants of what is now the Philippines since prehistoric times.”

“But the Philippine reactionary government muddles the issue and undermines its own position by making historical claims that date back only to a few decades ago when pseudo-admiral [Tomas] Cloma made formal claims to the Kalayaan group of islands,” Sison said, reverting to his usual criticism of the government.

How to react

Asked by Reyes how the Filipino people should react to the incursions of China in territories claimed by the Philippines, Sison said the government “should desist from self-fulfilling its claim of China’s aggression by engaging in an anti-China scare campaign.”

“The Filipino people and progressive forces must oppose what may be deemed as incursions and what may appear as aggressive behavior of China with regard to the territories belonging to the Philippines,” Sison said.

Sison said the Filipino people and “progressive forces must consciously differentiate their position from that of the Aquino regime, its military subalterns and its Akbayan special agents who pretend to be superpatriots against China but are in fact servile to the interests of US imperialism.”

He said the Aquino administration and its allies are using the anti-China campaign “to justify the escalation of US military intervention in the Philippines and US hegemony in the Asia-Pacific region.”

“At any rate, China must not violate Philippine national sovereignty and territorial integrity, the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea and the Code of Conduct it agreed to with the Asean,” Sison said.

“The apparently aggressive or assertive acts and words of China are in consonance with its own premise of national sovereignty and territorial integrity as well as with the bourgeois character of the Chinese state that may indicate an imperialist tendency or ambitions,” he added.

Sison doubted that the United States and China would go to war against each other.

The United States is a treaty ally of the Philippines, with such military accords as the Mutual Defense Treaty and the Visiting Forces Agreement.

China’s strength

“There is unity and struggle between two capitalist powers in the relationship between the US and China,” Sison said.

“The US is not yet really worried about China having the military strength that can be projected outside its borders. It is more worried about China’s military strength being able to defend China, fend off US imperialist dictates and threats and combat separatist forces in Taiwan, Tibet and Xinjiang,” he added.

Nabartek
April 21st, 2012, 07:21 PM
Take a stand, Asean told
(http://globalnation.inquirer.net/34251/take-a-stand-asean-told)
The Philippines has asked the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (Asean) to take a stand on its dispute with China over territorial claims to Scarborough Shoal (Panatag Shoal) and on other Chinese incursions in the West Philippine Sea (South China Sea).

“All, not just the Philippines, will ultimately be negatively affected if we do not take a stand,” Foreign Secretary Albert del Rosario said on Saturday in a text message to the Inquirer.

“Since the freedom of navigation and unimpeded commerce in the West Philippine Sea are of great import to many nations, all should consider what China is endeavoring to do in the Scarborough Shoal in order to pursue its so-called full sovereign rights over the entire West Philippine Sea on the basis of [its] nine-dash line claim, using a historical record that’s clearly baseless,” Del Rosario said.

The nine-dash claim is China’s delineation of its territory in the South China Sea, with nine dashes on the map that enclose all of the Spratly archipelago, parts of which are claimed by the Philippines, Brunei, Malaysia, Vietnam and Taiwan.

The Philippines has filed a protest with the United Nations, challenging China’s nine-dash claim that encompasses the whole West Philippine Sea.

Scarborough Shoal lies north of the Spratlys, 120 kilometers off Zambales province on the western coast of Luzon.

A Philippine Coast Guard search and rescue vessel, the BRP Edsa, is facing off with two Chinese vessels at the shoal in a 12-day territorial impasse set off on April 10 by Chinese poaching in the area.

The poachers, on eight fishing vessels, slipped out of the area with their illegal catch under the protection of the two Chinese surveillance vessels, angering Philippine officials.

Both asserting their territorial claim to the shoal, the Philippines and China have refused to recall their vessels from the area.

There were three Chinese vessels in the area until Friday night, when one returned to China. It was replaced by a large fishery patrol vessel, the Yuzheng 310, which arrived Friday morning.

By Saturday morning, Lt. Gen. Anthony Alcantara, military commander for Northern Luzon, said there were only two Chinese vessels in the area, the Yuzheng 310 and a maritime surveillance ship. “Our search and rescue [vessel], the Coast Guard 002 [BRP Edsa], is still in the area,” Alcantara said.

There have been “no untoward incident in the area,” Alcantara said.

Fishermen scared

But Filipino fishermen have been avoiding the area since the dispute flared on April 10, according to the Department of Foreign Affairs (DFA).

“I heard that they were trying to avoid the area for now [in] fear for their safety,” DFA spokesperson Raul Hernandez told reporters on Saturday.

The Bureau of Fisheries and Aquatic Resources (BFAR) has advised fishermen to stay away from Panatag Shoal until the standoff is over.

Hernandez said, however, that there is no official order from the government for fishermen not to go the area. “We would have to check with BFAR,” he said. “I think the fishermen themselves prefer to avoid the area.”

That’s a good idea, according to Malacañang. The fishermen’s staying away from the Panatag Shoal means “one less concern for the Philippine Coast Guard watching … the area,” Abigail Valte, deputy presidential spokesperson, said on Saturday.

Also Saturday, Presidential political adviser Ronald Llamas said a long-term solution to the territorial dispute in the West Philippine Sea would be a settlement of boundaries among the claimants.

“The best solution will still have to be a negotiated settlement of boundaries and rights,” Llamas said in a text message.

He said the settlement could be brought up in the United Nations and in the Asean.

Involve the allies

Sen. Gregorio Honasan recommended the same tack. He warned on Saturday that China might resort to military action if the Philippines continued contesting ownership of Panatag Shoal.

But by putting allies like the United States and other members of the Asean in the equation would discourage China from using its military might, Honasan said.

“If other countries like the US and those from Asean would get involved, [China would] hesitate,” he said.

“[If it’s just us, China would overrun us],” Honasan said.

Honasan said he supported the government’s plan to bring the Scarborough Shoal dispute to the International Tribunal on the Law of the Sea (Itlos), but in the meantime the Philippines should call for an emergency meeting with other Asean members “so they will get involved.”

The DFA’s Hernandez said last week that the foreign office had been mobilizing support among its Asean allies to counter Chinese intrusions in the West Philippine Sea.

No Asean statement yet

On Saturday, asked if other Asean members have issued any statement, if not taken a stand on the Scarborough Shoal issue, Del Rosario said “there have been no statements that we know of thus far.”

At the recent Asean summit in Phnom Penh, Cambodia, Del Rosario reiterated the Philippines adherence to the primacy of international law in resolving territorial disputes in the West Philippine Sea.

Speaking at the Asean foreign ministers’ meeting, Del Rosario said abiding by the rules set by the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea is the legitimate way of dealing with conflicting territorial claims in the disputed waters. With reports from Norman Bordadora, Dona Pazzibugan, Tina Santos and Christian Esguerra

waraywaray architect
April 21st, 2012, 07:25 PM
Communist Chinese support of their poachers are indicative of their regime's lawless and tyrannical control of their own people. Soon they will go down in shame just like the USSR!

Mercato
April 21st, 2012, 07:25 PM
I was wondering id we can give non-monetary exhanges with the us and potential allies in exhange for high tech weaponry?

Tipong barter ba ? :lol:Aaaah, among the best answers to your question had been provided by Waraywaray.Base militar in exchange for high tech weaponry.
Or, US statehood referendum to make it free...Yesssssssss. We are one in mind. Imagine Pax Americana in the entire Pacific from California to Alaska to Hawaii to the Philippines. Since the US needs a foothold in Asia and also places where to build their industrial products, instead of outsourcing to China they can have everything, all US investments poured into the Philippines instead. :lol: The first might work, but the second I doubt.... I bet they do not want to inherit our corrupt politicians :lol:Aaaaah, but our corrupt politicians will have their powers taken away.

Speaking of corrupt politicos, ako'y nagtataka sa ibang maciadong sumasamba sa mga lider political - kagaya kay Noynoying at GMA. Kung mabasa mo ang mga commentario dun sa economy threads akala mo higit pa sa Poong Maykapal ang pagluhod ng iba kay GMA a, kulang na lang sindihan ng kandila at dasalan gabi gabi. :lol: :lol: What am I driving at? Ang mga pobre, imbes na lawakan ang kanilang pag-iisip ay sinusunod pati ang mga pro China policies ni GMA na muntikan nang itinda ang sovereignty natin sa Spratlys dun sa mga chicom. That's really something, it gives the term narrow minded a whole new dimension. If some of you guys must really lick the filthy arses of either Noynoying or GMA, by all means do so for it's none of my business - but please do it within reasonable bounds and dont do an overkill.

Nabartek
April 21st, 2012, 07:29 PM
What I actually had in mind is some business deals favoring those who will FULLY support the Philippines. We know our business laws are too restricting to foreign companies... maybe, have the FULLY supporting countries have privilege, while the "sheeple" countriles...no privelege :lol: "Regular" rules apply

Askal82
April 21st, 2012, 07:39 PM
What I actually had in mind is some business deals favoring those who will FULLY support the Philippines. We know our business laws are too restricting to foreign companies... maybe, have the FULLY supporting countries have privilege, while the "sheeple" countriles...no privelege :lol: "Regular" rules apply

Why not? As long as it is mutually beneficial to both countries.

Nabartek
April 21st, 2012, 09:00 PM
Taken from PDFF (http://pdff.sytes.net/index.php?showtopic=2396&st=240)

Balikatan photos

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0gV95s82GC6ob/610x.jpg

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/06L24gQaRqbrs/610x.jpg

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/00xndUO4Fd7pc/610x.jpg

OtAkAw
April 21st, 2012, 09:25 PM
Saw this on Facebook. In fairness, may point! :D

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/301862_339343729461563_141291475933457_911259_1013746960_n.jpg

Mercato
April 21st, 2012, 09:58 PM
@Nabartek,

Balikatan photos ba yan? Aba! Baka maglulupasay sa Kalye na naman ang mga Leftists sa pangagalaiti! Yan ang pinaka-ayaw nila di ba? The mere presence of US troops sends them ballistic. :lol: :lol:

Nabartek
April 21st, 2012, 10:02 PM
Yes, it is Balikatan.

Baka iniisip nila naseige na ng mga Kano ang Phil bases :lol:

ManilaBoy45
April 22nd, 2012, 11:40 AM
F-16's fighter jets plan acquisition updates ...

http://philippineairspace.blogspot.com/2012/04/paf-seeks-12-f-16-fighter-jets-from-us.html

jpdm
April 22nd, 2012, 12:11 PM
F-16's fighter jets plan acquisition updates ...

http://philippineairspace.blogspot.com/2012/04/paf-seeks-12-f-16-fighter-jets-from-us.html

Kung magandang deal bakit hindi..:cheers:

AFP and DND make up your mind, anu ba talaga bibilhin nyo na fighter jets?

hakz2007
April 22nd, 2012, 01:07 PM
US commander reaffirms Philippines defence treaty
US: A senior US commander in the Pacific reaffirmed the United States' mutual defence treaty with the Philippines Sunday amid increased tensions between the archipelago and China.

In the strongest comments yet from an American official on the South China Sea dispute, Commander of the US Marines in the Pacific Lieutenant General Duane Thiessen said the Philippines and US were bound by a military agreement.

"The United States and the Philippines have a mutual defence treaty which guarantees that we get involved in each other's defense and that is self explanatory," he told reporters in Puerto Princesa, the capital of Palawan. Read more (http://www.timesofoman.com/innercat.asp?cat=&detail=3659&sec=news)

hugodiekonig
April 22nd, 2012, 01:14 PM
^^ hopefully the assistance maybe in the form of donation or discounted price on the purchase of warships, high-powered firearms, etc :D

CarltonHill
April 22nd, 2012, 01:16 PM
US commander reaffirms Philippines defence treaty
Read more (http://www.timesofoman.com/innercat.asp?cat=&detail=3659&sec=news)

great news!!! ;)

Askal82
April 22nd, 2012, 01:25 PM
Kung magandang deal bakit hindi..:cheers:

AFP and DND make up your mind, anu ba talaga bibilhin nyo na fighter jets?


"We are upgrading the capacity of our armed forces and we are glad that the US government approved our request to acquire those fighter jets", says del Rosario who decline to reveal further details.

Philippines is most likely to get it. It would take 2 years to train the pilots and recondition them. Why would they even request them if they are not even getting it?

Sou-jiro
April 22nd, 2012, 01:40 PM
Pinoy hacktivist group retaliates, defaces Chinese websites

MANILA, Philippines — Responding to the defacement of the University of the Philippines (UP) website on Friday, a group of Philippine-based hackers has defaced a Chinese university website on Saturday as tension between China and the Philippines continue to escalate.

Breaking into one of the sub-websites of the Chinese University Media Union (UMU), the group Anonymous #OccupyPhilippines replaced the main page with a defaced website that declared “Scarborough Shoal is ours!” as loud, screaming music played in the background.

http://www.interaksyon.com/infotech/pinoy-hacktivist-group-retaliates-defaces-chinese-websites

hugodiekonig
April 22nd, 2012, 01:52 PM
Pinoy hacktivist group retaliates, defaces Chinese websites



mga UP hacktivists din kaya may gawa nito? hehehehe

kenken94
April 22nd, 2012, 02:25 PM
Hay salamat bumalik na ang thead..... :D

Now... moving on.... :cheers:

xxxriainxxx
April 22nd, 2012, 02:31 PM
mga UP hacktivists din kaya may gawa nito? hehehehe


Busabos is from UP daw.:cheers:

leofriends
April 22nd, 2012, 02:34 PM
^^ May bagong 4 na websites na naman daw ang na hack ng Philippines by Anonymous..

xxxriainxxx
April 22nd, 2012, 02:37 PM
^^ May bagong 4 na websites na naman daw ang na hack ng Philippines..

I don't understand your sentence. Tayo ang nanghack or tayo ang nahack?

Meanwhile, who got balls?


https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/551940_10150707021713978_503008977_9511932_758220105_n.jpg

leofriends
April 22nd, 2012, 02:39 PM
^^ tayo gumawa bro..

xxxriainxxx
April 22nd, 2012, 02:40 PM
^^ tayo gumawa bro..

which sites? :D

M46Fr3D
April 22nd, 2012, 02:47 PM
malamang mga taga-UP din ang tumira nyan. nagkamali ang China ng niyari. kung government site ang niyari nila for sure di gaganti yan pero school ang niyari nila e. para ka ng iniputan sa sarili mong pamamahay nyan.

China is really pushing their luck too far. Hacking UP's website has nothing to do with the standoff in Panatag. When it comes to hacking, i know Pinoy hackers can go head to head against Chinese hackers. Expect more to come lalo na kung magunite ang mga hackers ng mga school sa Pilipinas.

wolfram74
April 22nd, 2012, 02:49 PM
Pinoy hacktivist group retaliates, defaces Chinese websites

MANILA, Philippines — Responding to the defacement of the University of the Philippines (UP) website on Friday, a group of Philippine-based hackers has defaced a Chinese university website on Saturday as tension between China and the Philippines continue to escalate.

Breaking into one of the sub-websites of the Chinese University Media Union (UMU), the group Anonymous #OccupyPhilippines replaced the main page with a defaced website that declared “Scarborough Shoal is ours!” as loud, screaming music played in the background.

http://www.interaksyon.com/infotech/pinoy-hacktivist-group-retaliates-defaces-chinese-websites


so what exactly does this accomplish? pnoy pride na naman ba ito? does somebody have a list of these websites, including their description?

Google's cache can be quite enlightening...higvod.cn seems like a download site for pirated movies; cyr1.com looks like a photography service/forum.

that's it? ano ba ang impact talaga nito sa mga Chinese? kung meron major PHL websites na ma-hack ng mga Chinese, wag kayong umiyak ah.

leofriends
April 22nd, 2012, 02:50 PM
e2 yung mga bagong sites:

http://www.lzrk.gov.cn/index.asp - GOVERNMENT WEBSITE

http://www.tjhousing.com/OutWeb/WebIndex/Index.htm

http://www.cyr1.com/philippines.html

http://www.higvod.cn/

leofriends
April 22nd, 2012, 02:51 PM
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/1777/picture1gtj.png
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/1777/picture1gtj.png

http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/5296/picture2ibb.png
http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/5296/picture2ibb.png

wolfram74
April 22nd, 2012, 03:03 PM
:ohno: so many people rejoice at such small victories of our hackers. paano pag merong major websites sa PHL na ma-hack? walang iyakan ha, kung ano man ang mangyari. :ohno:

leofriends
April 22nd, 2012, 03:05 PM
^^ Well, its the governments responsibility kung gumagawa sila ng mga karampatang aksyon sa problema wala sang problema....

xxxriainxxx
April 22nd, 2012, 03:06 PM
Otakaw's photo was on one of the hacked sites!!! :D

wolfram74
April 22nd, 2012, 03:08 PM
wag masyadong mag-rejoice at baka mabigla nalang tayong lahat at magkaroon ng major disruption sa ating mga websites.

why are people cheering these hackers on? allowing this tense situation to escalate :bash::bash::bash:...sure ba kayo na hindi kaya ng Chinese hackers na gumawa ng mas malalang problema para sa atin? mag-isip-isip naman please........

ginawa nyo lang itong source of entertainment and pnoy Pride booster....hindi na nag-iisip kung ano ang possible consequences.

leofriends
April 22nd, 2012, 03:12 PM
^^ Well, government to the rescue...

Palace calls for end to cyber-attacks over Panatag Shoal row

GMA News OnlineGMA News Online – 5 hours ago

While it maintained the government will continue to pursue the diplomatic track on the matter, Malacañang called Sunday for an end to cyber-attacks on Philippine and Chinese websites stemming from the ongoing standoff in the Panatag (Scarborough) Shoal. Deputy presidential spokesperson Abigail Valte said cyber-attacks that seek to heighten tension will not help resolve the issue. “It will not (bode) well for anyone from both sides to increase tension on the issue,” she said on government-run dzRB radio. But she sought to downplay the effects of last weekend's exchange of cyber-attacks, saying they should not disrupt Philippine-China relations. Neither should the attacks have any effect on the diplomatic approach by both sides, she said. “We don’t see it will have any negative effects on the talks. We will continue to pursue the talks and we will continue to pursue the diplomatic track,” she said. On Friday, the website of the University of the Philippines System was defaced, supposedly by pro-China hackers who claimed the shoal was theirs. A day later, Chinese websites were also attacked, with the attackers appearing to be from the Philippines. The standoff at the shoal started last week when Philippine military forces spotted Chinese fishing boats in the area, and found them taking endangered species. But before the Philippine Navy boat BRP Gregorio del Pilar could make arrests, Chinese vessels blocked its path. The fishing boats had since left the area. Meanwhile, Valte reiterated the ongoing Philippine-US Balikatan exercises are not related to the ongoing territorial tiff. She said the Balikatan exercises had been scheduled long before the present standoff. Earlier, Foreign Affairs Department spokesman Raul Hernandez was quoted as saying they “denounce such cyber attacks regardless from which side they are coming from.” — LBG, GMA News

http://ph.news.yahoo.com/palace-calls-end-cyber-attacks-over-panatag-shoal-080606689.html

wolfram74
April 22nd, 2012, 03:15 PM
ah...so tuloy-tuloy lang sa cyber-attacks na parang naglalaro lang kayo ng computer games? ok lang dahil may government to the rescue naman? :ohno: these hackers are part of the problem, not part of the solution :bash::bash:

mentality ng mga nag-che-cheer ng hackers na ito, napaka-childish. parang naglalaro lang ng computer games. :ohno:

hacking? really, philippines? mananalo na tayo dahil dito? grow up, people.

M46Fr3D
April 22nd, 2012, 03:17 PM
so what exactly does this accomplish? pnoy pride na naman ba ito? does somebody have a list of these websites, including their description?

Google's cache can be quite enlightening...higvod.cn seems like a download site for pirated movies; cyr1.com looks like a photography service/forum.

that's it? ano ba ang impact talaga nito sa mga Chinese? kung meron major PHL websites na ma-hack ng mga Chinese, wag kayong umiyak ah.

And ano naman naging accomplishments ng Chinese hackers sa paghack sa UP website? Government website ba ang hinack ng mga Chinese? Yeah Filipino pride yan. Karangalan ng mga mag-aaral ng UP ang inapakan nila. Ang mga estudyante ba ng UP ang nasa standoff ngayon sa Panatag para gawin sa kanila ng mga Chinese hackers yun? Same thing din ang nasa isip ng mga Pinoy hackers. It is just one way of saying fuck off and leave us alone.

wolfram74
April 22nd, 2012, 03:20 PM
^^so when will the cyber-attacks end? pag na-hack na lahat ng websites sa PHL at China? what then? magpa-party kayo dahil na-"defend" nyo ang Pride nyo? :ohno:

leofriends
April 22nd, 2012, 03:21 PM
ah...so tuloy-tuloy lang sa cyber-attacks na parang naglalaro lang kayo ng computer games? ok lang dahil may government to the rescue naman? :ohno: these hackers are part of the problem, not part of the solution :bash::bash:

mentality ng mga nag-che-cheer ng hackers na ito, napaka-childish. parang naglalaro lang ng computer games. :ohno:

hacking? really, philippines? mananalo na tayo dahil dito? grow up, people.

so hindi ka lalaban? In what way do you want to fight? DOTA? Patalinuhan sa Math? Pagalingan mag discussion sa Philippine Economy Thread?

leofriends
April 22nd, 2012, 03:24 PM
^^so when will the cyber-attacks end? pag na-hack na lahat ng websites sa PHL at China? what then? magpa-party kayo dahil na-"defend" nyo ang Pride nyo? :ohno:

the pride you are talking is a FILIPINO Pride, not a what you are talking about "NOYNOYING" was very nothing sense.. for me its more good to talk about the true essence of the Philippine Economy not the Politics...

wolfram74
April 22nd, 2012, 03:26 PM
the proper forum: International Tribunal for the Law of the Sea

dito talagang malakas ang laban natin.

------

wag masyadong magpadala sa pnoy Pride...look at the big picture...paano na ang foreign investments ng China...mga financial aid at loans sa atin...mga pnoy drug mules (na walang disiplina :bash:) na nasa death row, etc. etc.

scamingue
April 22nd, 2012, 03:28 PM
so hindi ka lalaban? In what way do you want to fight? DOTA? Patalinuhan sa Math? Pagalingan mag discussion sa Philippine Economy Thread?

:lol::yes:

M46Fr3D
April 22nd, 2012, 03:29 PM
so what exactly does this accomplish? pnoy pride na naman ba ito? does somebody have a list of these websites, including their description?

Google's cache can be quite enlightening...higvod.cn seems like a download site for pirated movies; cyr1.com looks like a photography service/forum.

that's it? ano ba ang impact talaga nito sa mga Chinese? kung meron major PHL websites na ma-hack ng mga Chinese, wag kayong umiyak ah.

^^so when will the cyber-attacks end? pag na-hack na lahat ng websites sa PHL at China? what then? magpa-party kayo dahil na-"defend" nyo ang Pride nyo? :ohno:

it will stop when Filipinos like you cease from existence or leave Philippines.

Pag pinatay ang nanay mo at nakita mo ang pumatay na nakatambay sa kanto at nagiinom at tinatawanan ka lang, ano ang gagawin mo? Pag kaya mong sabihin ng walang halong pagsisinungaling na ipapaubaya mo sa batas ang kaso ng nanay mo, then i will say sorry at sinuportahan ko ang mga Pinoy hackers at nicheer pa sila.

leofriends
April 22nd, 2012, 03:31 PM
^^ WALA naman tayong laban dyan eh.. kailan nyo pang nakitang sumunood ang china sa UNCLOS aber? lahat ng bansang napapalibutan ng south china sea basag na basag.. di man lang nila inisip yung integridad at kredibilidad ng masasagasaan nya.. sana inisip man nila na mayaman na sila.. tayo eto lang sa baba.. lau pa kamong bumababa..

wolfram74
April 22nd, 2012, 03:34 PM
it will stop when Filipinos like you cease from existence or leave Philippines.

Pag pinatay ang nanay mo at nakita mo ang pumatay na nakatambay sa kanto at nagiinom at tinatawanan ka lang, ano ang gagawin mo? Pag kaya mong sabihin ng walang halong pagsisinungaling na ipapaubaya mo sa batas ang kaso ng nanay mo, then i will say sorry at sinuportahan ko ang mga Pinoy hackers at nicheer pa sila.

eh kung may dala siyang armalite? at ang dala mo ay kutsara at tinidor lang, susugod ka pa rin? :lol::lol::lol: again, emotions win over intellect in this case. you'll just be another casualty mentioned in cheap tabloids.

The Spratly Islands Massacre: Vietnames sailors massacred by the Chinese Navy

bP4IZwqdowA

rawr
April 22nd, 2012, 03:36 PM
inaantay ko na lang na ma-hack ang PEx....pag nangyari yun...giyera na talaga.

hugodiekonig
April 22nd, 2012, 03:38 PM
natatawa lang tayo sa panghahack ng ibang pinoy hackers sa mga chinese websites. let's not take it seriously. In my point, I know it's a senseless act

hugodiekonig
April 22nd, 2012, 03:39 PM
^^ Well, government to the rescue...

Palace calls for end to cyber-attacks over Panatag Shoal row

GMA News OnlineGMA News Online – 5 hours ago



http://ph.news.yahoo.com/palace-calls-end-cyber-attacks-over-panatag-shoal-080606689.html

tama yan, baka tuluyang maparanoid nanaman ang mga Chinese na tinotolerate ng gobyerno natin ang mga cyber attacks na ito

leofriends
April 22nd, 2012, 03:40 PM
eh kung may dala siyang armalite? at ang dala mo ay kutsara at tinidor lang, susugod ka pa rin? :lol::lol::lol: again, emotions win over intellect in this case. you'll just be another casualty mentioned in cheap tabloids.

The Spratly Islands Massacre: Vietnames sailors massacred by the Chinese Navy


...............
“Totoong pwedeng mamatay ako kung ako ay lalaban. Pero kahit hindi ako lumaban, mamamatay rin naman ako. Mas mabuti nang mamatay na lumalaban.”

--hacienda luisita farmer--

wolfram74
April 22nd, 2012, 03:45 PM
^^ ano yan, mas maraming mamatay, mas honorable? :ohno: mamamatay ka ba kung hindi tayo susugod sa China? once more, nakakalimutan na naman ang DIPLOMACY. war mentality na naman tayo. wag po magpadala sa emosyon.

M46Fr3D
April 22nd, 2012, 03:47 PM
eh kung may dala siyang armalite? at ang dala mo ay kutsara at tinidor lang, susugod ka pa rin? :lol::lol::lol: again, emotions win over intellect in this case. you'll just be another casualty mentioned in cheap tabloids.

The Spratly Islands Massacre: Vietnames sailors massacred by the Chinese Navy

bP4IZwqdowA

:) So ibig sabihin wala kang balak na mabigyan ng hustisya ang pagkamatay ng iyong ina? tsk tsk tsk. Kaawa-awang ina, nagsilang ng isang lunong anak.

and to answer your question, kailangan ba agad sumugod as soon as nakita mo yung pumatay sa nanay mo at nakita mong merong dalang armalite na di mo sigurado kung meron ngang bala? Di ba pwede paganahin ang utak mo at umuwi sa bahay nyo at kumuha ka ng armalite na sigurado kang meron bala at pumosisyon sa lugar at di ka kita ng pumatay sa nanay mo? :bash::ohno:

Sou-jiro
April 22nd, 2012, 03:47 PM
so what exactly does this accomplish? pnoy pride na naman ba ito? does somebody have a list of these websites, including their description?

Google's cache can be quite enlightening...higvod.cn seems like a download site for pirated movies; cyr1.com looks like a photography service/forum.

that's it? ano ba ang impact talaga nito sa mga Chinese? kung meron major PHL websites na ma-hack ng mga Chinese, wag kayong umiyak ah.

Itanong m rin yan sa kabila sila una nag hack.....ano ba connection ng Territorial Dispute at hi nack nila UP...how is that constructive? :ohno:

hugodiekonig
April 22nd, 2012, 03:48 PM
ooops tama na yan, kung nalinisan ang thread last week dahil sa Chinese invasion, tapos this weekend naman dahil sa British invasion, this time, we Pinoys should not destroy the thread. Peace!

wolfram74
April 22nd, 2012, 03:52 PM
:) So ibig sabihin wala kang balak na mabigyan ng hustisya ang pagkamatay ng iyong ina? tsk tsk tsk. Kaawa-awang ina, nagsilang ng isang lunong anak.

and to answer your question, kailangan ba agad sumugod as soon as nakita mo yung pumatay sa nanay mo at nakita mong merong dalang armalite na di mo sigurado kung meron ngang bala? Di ba pwede paganahin ang utak mo at umuwi sa bahay nyo at kumuha ka ng armalite na sigurado kang meron bala at pumosisyon sa lugar at di ka kita ng pumatay sa nanay mo? :bash::ohno:

syempre, tatawag ako ng pulis. and, once arrested, i will hire the best lawyers in the country. to make sure he'll get the maximum punishment under the law.

bakit ba, magka-level ba ang weaponry ng PHL at China? bakit yung analogy mo, pareho kaming merong armalite? :ohno:

wolfram74
April 22nd, 2012, 03:54 PM
Itanong m rin yan sa kabila sila una nag hack.....ano ba connection ng Territorial Dispute at hi nack nila UP...how is that constructive? :ohno:

fight evil with evil? sinimulan nila, so meron na rin tayong karapatang gumawa ng mali. ano ba naman yan??......

M46Fr3D
April 22nd, 2012, 03:54 PM
@hugodiekonig: ^^ yan na nga rin kapatid ang nasa isip ko eh, kaya after kong napost yung last post ko eh napagdesisyunan ko na di na magquote pa ulet dun. :) Any way OT ang topic kaya pasensya na po at sorry rin sa mga kaforum natin.

M46Fr3D
April 22nd, 2012, 03:55 PM
Is it true na approved na ng US ang acquisition natin ng F-16s? Any reliable link? Thanks.

Sou-jiro
April 22nd, 2012, 03:56 PM
fight evil with evil? sinimulan nila, so meron na rin tayong karapatang gumawa ng mali. ano ba naman yan??......

not endorsing it just saying there's two sides to it.

xxxriainxxx
April 22nd, 2012, 03:59 PM
Yung ibang tao dito, yung iniisip siguro nila, tutal ginagahasa ka na, enjoyin mo na lang.

:ohno:

Sou-jiro
April 22nd, 2012, 03:59 PM
Is it true na approved na ng US ang acquisition natin ng F-16s? Any reliable link? Thanks.

Philstar has an article but I would probably wait for a more official statement from Officials..

wolfram74
April 22nd, 2012, 03:59 PM
not endorsing it just saying there's two sides to it.

i see. no problem, dude.

wolfram74
April 22nd, 2012, 04:02 PM
Yung ibang tao dito, yung iniisip siguro nila, tutal ginagahasa ka na, enjoyin mo na lang.

:ohno:

mabuti pa, umalis ka na dyan sa Vietnam at pumunta sa Scarborough Shoal, para pagbabarilin ka dun ng China na walang kalaban-laban.

coldfire083
April 22nd, 2012, 04:09 PM
Kapag inaapi ka ng China sa Panatag, kapag hack nila website ng UP... Noynoying dapat gawin?

xxxriainxxx
April 22nd, 2012, 04:13 PM
Kapag inaapi ka ng China sa Panatag, kapag hack nila website ng UP... Noynoying dapat gawin?

Buti pa ang panot, at least noynoying. Yung iba pati kaluluwa binenta na sa Tsina.

Anyway.. at least sa admin ni panot nagkaroon ng bagong lumang barko, may paparating pa daw na isa.

Talata.Productions
April 22nd, 2012, 04:14 PM
U failed to realized that UP is one of the premier university of the country, hence any attacks in their websites from foreign people automatically provokes a response from its students. No further explanation is needed in this since its already given, it's a school after all.
Much more that these chingchong faggs posted a very sensitive topic, just looking at the hacked UP page then somewhat made me feel like my monitor is taking a piss at my face, seriously.


You know, I feel that this would escalate further into a massive cyber war, well that's just me so I could be wrong though. Better to just stay back, have some pop corn then shut your mouth and just watch how these people do their work.

wolfram74
April 22nd, 2012, 04:20 PM
Buti pa ang panot, at least noynoying. Yung iba pati kaluluwa binenta na sa Tsina.

Anyway.. at least sa admin ni panot nagkaroon ng bagong lumang barko, may paparating pa daw na isa.

ang tamang gawin: hagisan natin ng granada ang Tsina, para hagisan naman nila tayo ng missiles at nuclear bombs. :okay: LOL

nagsalita itong wala naman sa Pinas nagtatrabaho...binenta mo na kaluluwa mo sa Vietnam? :nuts::hammer::ohno: by the way, saan ka ba nagbabayad ng taxes? sa Pilipinas ba?

xxxriainxxx
April 22nd, 2012, 04:24 PM
From Anonymous Philippines:


Di po kami nangangarap at nagpepretend Sir Jun .... di din namin sinabi na Lyamado ang PH kapag nakipag cyberwar sa China. Di naman lingid sa kaalaman namin iyon.

Pero bilang isang dating Iskolar ng Bayan nakahanda akong gawin sa abot ng aking makakayanan ang makabawi man lang sa mensaheng iniwanan ng isang taga China sa website ng UP.

Di po ako takot sa dami nila dahil naka handa din po ang mga botnets ko na ang iba ay nakaload mismo sa mga servers na nakabase sa kanila. 3 lang ang dineface ko sa ilang box na hawak ko sa kanila.. ang iba ay nakiisa o nakiresbak lamang nung ako ay magpost dito.

Tama ka hintayin natin ang pasya ng UN pero kailan pa po kaya iyon....Mas nanaisin ko sigurong may ginagawang paraan para kontrahin ang ginagawa nila ngayon sa cyberspace kesa sa nakikita kong tambak tayo ng defacements at nananahimik lang ako sa isang tabi.

Salamat po

:okay:

kenken94
April 22nd, 2012, 04:29 PM
^^ That's the spirit! :cheers: Just sit back, relax and enjoy guys. :D

wolfram74
April 22nd, 2012, 04:35 PM
mas nakakatuwa habang dumadami ang websites natin ang naha-hack. the more, the merrier? :hammer::ohno:

sa bagay, mahilig naman talaga sa entertainment ang mga pnoy. it's more fun in the Philippines

now where's my popcorn?..hmmm...i wonder which website will be hacked next? i hope it's something really exciting, like my bank's website...now that's something we can really talk about during office breaks...............sick, twisted form of entertainment. :bash:

xxxriainxxx
April 22nd, 2012, 04:44 PM
Proud to be an Iskolar ng Bayan! :okay:

kenken94
April 22nd, 2012, 05:22 PM
I won't wonder if this thread gets locked up again. Sheesh. :doh:

hugodiekonig
April 22nd, 2012, 07:34 PM
MANILA, Philippines - A Chinese fishery and maritime law enforcement ship – considered the most advanced in its class – has arrived in Panatag (Scarborough) Shoal off Zambales and linked up with another Chinese vessel involved in a standoff with a Philippine Coast Guard search and rescue vessel.

The newly arrived ship is the biggest so far among the ships deployed by China to assert its claim to the shoal, which is 124 nautical miles from the Zambales town of Masinloc and is well within the Philippines’ 200-mile exclusive economic zone.

Lt. Gen. Anthony Alcantara, Northern Luzon Command (Nolcom) chief, said the ship arrived at around 6 a.m. yesterday and joined a Chinese maritime surveillance vessel with bow No. 71.

read more here: http://ph.news.yahoo.com/china-deploys-big-ship-192236824.html

Nabartek
April 22nd, 2012, 07:52 PM
Mas may pakinabang pa mga hackers kesa sa mga tongressmen at senatongs na katamihan walamg statement against china

Askal82
April 22nd, 2012, 08:27 PM
wag masyadong mag-rejoice at baka mabigla nalang tayong lahat at magkaroon ng major disruption sa ating mga websites.

why are people cheering these hackers on? allowing this tense situation to escalate :bash::bash::bash:...sure ba kayo na hindi kaya ng Chinese hackers na gumawa ng mas malalang problema para sa atin? mag-isip-isip naman please........

ginawa nyo lang itong source of entertainment and pnoy Pride booster....hindi na nag-iisip kung ano ang possible consequences.

The Vietnamese hackers did it in defense of their territory before so why can't the Filipino hackers do it too? They are not only the ones who has that capability to sabotage their network. :lol:

Nabartek
April 22nd, 2012, 08:29 PM
Why do i have a feeling that unclos and itlos are toothless against a bully nation? I think those only will work for open minded nations

Askal82
April 22nd, 2012, 08:32 PM
Why do i have a feeling that unclos and itlos are toothless against a bully nation? I think those only will work for open minded nations

According to wolfram, you run to the police to report the incident.

But who is the police in this dispute between neighbors in the vast body of water called the West Philippine Sea? :lol:

Baka eto:

OMOGaugKpzs&ob

:lol: :lol:

Nabartek
April 22nd, 2012, 08:39 PM
Dp

Nabartek
April 22nd, 2012, 08:40 PM
^^ from my understanding unclos and itlos sets territorial disputes but does not punish any nation who dont follow it. Hence, it is a "law" for sane countries. Not countries like china

Askal82
April 22nd, 2012, 08:51 PM
fight evil with evil? sinimulan nila, so meron na rin tayong karapatang gumawa ng mali. ano ba naman yan??......

Wrong analogy, you fight fire with fire.

Askal82
April 22nd, 2012, 08:56 PM
^^ from my understanding unclos and itlos sets territorial disputes but does not punish any nation who dont follow it. Hence, it is a "law" for sane countries. Not countries like china

Yeah, it may not punish those countries, but at least we put that decision behind a 3rd party whose indepedence and objectivity would determine who is the rightful owner of the territory. In our case, it would validate or invalidate our claims. If it's not valid, then China can have it.

Nabartek
April 22nd, 2012, 09:00 PM
Cant paste the whole article since im on mobile but here is a link

http://m.indianexpress.com/news/chinese-daily-calls-for-smallscale-war-against-philippines/940004/

Askal82
April 22nd, 2012, 09:00 PM
OT:

http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/xZKapUKJZgiF8SUUApdLlg--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9aW5zZXQ7aD0zNDU7cT04NTt3PTUxMg--/http://media.zenfs.com/en_sg/News/AFP/photo_1335025421428-1-0.jpg



read more here: http://ph.news.yahoo.com/purple-crab-species-found-philippines-091455160.html

They should go here to discover more species of crab in the Philippines. :lol:

Askal82
April 22nd, 2012, 09:03 PM
Cant paste the whole article since im on mobile but here is a link

http://m.indianexpress.com/news/chinese-daily-calls-for-smallscale-war-against-philippines/940004/

Well, let them fire the first shot. Sanction on us? :lol:

lochinvar
April 22nd, 2012, 09:45 PM
Militarily, we may not make a dent against China. It's a David against Goliath.

But alas, the Philippines discovered something new. And we are on equal footing with the Chinese. It is the web.

Sun Tzu may say, Bigger target, bigger casualty. China is target rich.

natnat0026
April 22nd, 2012, 10:04 PM
China accuses Philippines of aggravating tension in disputed shoal


MANILA, Philippines—It’s the Philippines, not China, that has been aggravating tensions in the Scarborough Shoal in the South China Sea, which Manila calls the West Philippine Sea, according to the Chinese Embassy in Manila.


Zhang Hua, the embassy spokesman, disputed on Sunday Malacañang’s accusation that Beijing escalated tensions in the area, saying, “We have been very restrained until now.”


In a text message, Zhang said, “We did not aggravate the situation as some said.”


“First, Huangyan Island (Scarborough Shoal) is part of China’s territory. Second, it is the Philippine Navy that first pointed their guns at our fishermen,” he told the Philippine Daily Inquirer.
Zhang, also deputy chief of the embassy’s political section, also pointed out, “We have not sent our Navy (to the shoal) yet, but only civilian ships.”

http://http://globalnation.inquirer.net/34351/china-accuses-philippines-of-aggravating-tension-in-disputed-shoal (http://http//globalnation.inquirer.net/34351/china-accuses-philippines-of-aggravating-tension-in-disputed-shoal) :ohno:

LuckyLady
April 22nd, 2012, 11:16 PM
mas nakakatuwa habang dumadami ang websites natin ang naha-hack. the more, the merrier? :hammer::ohno:

sa bagay, mahilig naman talaga sa entertainment ang mga pnoy. it's more fun in the Philippines

now where's my popcorn?..hmmm...i wonder which website will be hacked next? i hope it's something really exciting, like my bank's website...now that's something we can really talk about during office breaks...............sick, twisted form of entertainment. :bash:

tumahimik ka na kung wala ka man lang magawa sa bansa mo...tho di kita pinaghihilaan na pro china ka, pero wag mo naman masyadong ibenta sarili mo dito. there's no better time than this time for filipinos to unite. this issue with china is a good reason for pinoys to wake up and unite to strengthen it's economy and military.

Biarway
April 22nd, 2012, 11:22 PM
Hayaan mo yan. Hipster kasi yan eh. Feeling superior sa ibang pinoy for some reason na 'di mo alam. Sana lang talaga successful sya sa totoong buhay.

LuckyLady
April 22nd, 2012, 11:30 PM
tama yan, baka tuluyang maparanoid nanaman ang mga Chinese na tinotolerate ng gobyerno natin ang mga cyber attacks na ito

yes yan angdapatgawin ng gobyernonatinmagdeclare na diniscourageyungattack at manawagan sa mga pinoyperohindi ibig sabihin mgapinoymaghintosapaghahack:lol:

El_Toro
April 22nd, 2012, 11:41 PM
hiyang hiya naman ako sa china tayo pa daw ang nageescalte ng tension sa Panatag Shoal... 3 ships meron sila plus pasulpot sulpot na mga fishermans ships na nagpopoach sa area tapos tayo iisa lang yun BRP Edsa, tayo pa ba nageescalate sa lagay na yan... sana sa mga magaling maghack ihack nalang nila yun missile defense system ng china at idetonate nila lahat sa mainland...peace...

LuckyLady
April 22nd, 2012, 11:42 PM
syempre, tatawag ako ng pulis. and, once arrested, i will hire the best lawyers in the country. to make sure he'll get the maximum punishment under the law.

bakit ba, magka-level ba ang weaponry ng PHL at China? bakit yung analogy mo, pareho kaming merong armalite? :ohno:

hay naku sino ba namang pulis, best lawyers pinagsasabi mo ah???:lol: well of course, aabot rin tayo dyan, di ba nag e exert tayo ng effort to solve the issue diplomatically pero kaso lang parang malabo ata pakinggan tayo? pero anyway, pag bigyan mo muna nga pinoy, walang pundo mag trainang atingobyernoparasaatingonlinearmy so silasilanalang muna magpractice sa kanilangkakayahan. ako i'm just being honest here, i'm proud of them:banana:keep going guys pero syempre wag masyadong satsat lang!:lol:

LuckyLady
April 22nd, 2012, 11:43 PM
hiyang hiya naman ako sa china tayo pa daw ang nageescalte ng tension sa Panatag Shoal... 3 ships meron sila plus pasulpot sulpot na mga fishermans ships na nagpopoach sa area tapos tayo iisa lang yun BRP Edsa, tayo pa ba nageescalate sa lagay na yan... sana sa mga magaling maghack ihack nalang nila yun missile defense system ng china at idetonate nila lahat sa mainland...peace...

masanay ka na sa china, sanay yan sa kasinungalingan at pandadaya:lol::bash: that's a good ideaihackatdon napasabugin:lol:

LuckyLady
April 22nd, 2012, 11:49 PM
Militarily, we may not make a dent against China. It's a David against Goliath.

But alas, the Philippines discovered something new. And we are on equal footing with the Chinese. It is the web.

Sun Tzu may say, Bigger target, bigger casualty. China is target rich.

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amigo32
April 22nd, 2012, 11:53 PM
anong nangyari sayo lucky manzano?:lol:

LuckyLady
April 22nd, 2012, 11:56 PM
tuwang tuwa lang ako sa post ni Lonchivar ah:lol: walang isang emo pedeng mag express ng feeling :rofl:

wolfram74
April 23rd, 2012, 01:05 AM
pnoys are cheering for these criminals (hackers)

amigo32
April 23rd, 2012, 01:10 AM
pnoys are cheering for these criminals (hackers)

una namn silang nang hack, ilang beses na kaya na hack ang website ng Gov.ph, pero ngayon lang gumanti mga hackers natin.

Ayoko rin namn ng ganun, pero sa kaso ngayon, natutuwa ako at gumanti man lang ang mga pinoy hackers.

wala sa kalingkingan ang ginawa ng mga Pinoy kesa ginawa at gagawin pa lang ng Tsina.:nuts:

hugodiekonig
April 23rd, 2012, 01:18 AM
una namn silang nang hack, ilang beses na kaya na hack ang website ng Gov.ph, pero ngayon lang gumanti mga hackers natin.

Ayoko rin namn ng ganun, pero sa kaso ngayon, natutuwa ako at gumanti man lang ang mga pinoy hackers.

wala sa kalingkingan ang ginawa ng mga Pinoy kesa ginawa at gagawin pa lang ng Tsina.:nuts:

:bow::bow::bow::bow::bow: I agree

jpdm
April 23rd, 2012, 01:26 AM
Naku, Yung mga gagong Communistang leaders ng China magpapagawa sa mga magagaling mameke at mamirata ng mapa at dokumenta na mas luma pa sa 1700s lumabas na sila may ari.:bash::bash:


Scarborough belongs to PH, old maps show
Documents back claim, says lawmaker


By Michael Lim Ubac
Philippine Daily Inquirer
12:13 am | Monday, April 23rd, 2012
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BAJO SCARBURO European cartographers named Scarborough Shoal as “Bajo Scarburo” in this 1820 map from the book “Mapping the Philippines: The Spanish Period.”

Old maps dating back to Spanish colonial times may hold the key to the claim of the Philippines to Scarborough Shoal.

Known as “Bajo Scarburo,” the shoal now called Panatag by the Department of Foreign Affairs (DFA), has been part of the known world since 1734, when European cartographers began to map the world in an age of conquest.

In fact, Bajo Scarburo appeared on a map of the “Archipelago Filipino” as a constituent part of Sambalez (Zambales province) in a topographic map of the country “drawn under the direction of Ildefonso de Aragon on April 15, 1820.”
Senator Edgardo J. Angara, who has a collection of ancient maps of the country, told the Philippine Daily Inquirer on Sunday that the maps would easily disprove the territorial claim of China to the shoal and its surrounding waters, which, he said, had no historical or legal grounds under the United Nations Convention on the Laws of the Sea (Unclos).

“It’s clear that Scarborough Shoal is part of our cartography during the Spanish colonial times,” he said. “We have maps (reproduced) from the original, which was made in 1734. During that time, Scarborough is already part of the Philippines.”

http://globalnation.inquirer.net/34369/scarborough-belongs-to-ph-old-maps-show

jpdm
April 23rd, 2012, 01:32 AM
Dapat ganito ginagawa ng China hindi yung nag-aagaw ng hindi kanya.:lol:

South Dakota ghost town now owned by Iglesia ni Cristo



By Rudy M. Viernes
FilAm Star
3:40 pm | Saturday, April 21st, 2012
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The Iglesia ni Cristo church in the Philippines shelled out $700,000 to purchase an abandoned, tiny exclave in Scenic, South Dakota. For what? For possible expansion of its imposing edifices with trademark narrow-pointed spires which are landmarks in many towns and cities in the Philippines. But INC hasn’t divulged its plans for the property according to its offices in Daly City, California.

The town of Scenic, South Dakota — an unincorporated 12-acre (4.86 hectares) community in Pennington County, once a popular stop for people traveling to Rapid City from the Badlands — was bought by the INC including the surrounding acreage from owner and longtime resident and area rodeo legend Twila Merrill.

But its future is shrouded in new mystery. Wait for what the Iglesia ni Cristo in Manila, the new owner, will do with the property. And the few residents there, numbering nine in all, are excited about the possibilities the town pulsates with life again when the INC starts building its landmark super structures with spires pointing to the sky and its cavernous hall reverberating with shouts of worship.

http://globalnation.inquirer.net/?p=34205

hugodiekonig
April 23rd, 2012, 01:44 AM
Naku, Yung mga gagong Communistang leaders ng China magpapagawa sa mga magagaling mameke at mamirata ng mapa at dokumenta na mas luma pa sa 1700s lumabas na sila may ari.:bash::bash:

I am certain that this is true. Yup siguradong mamemeke nanaman ang China ng historical records nila, gaya ng pamemeke nila sa mga artifacts kuno na nahukay nila, eh may technology and skill sila wherein they could look anything ancient :ancient:

jpdm
April 23rd, 2012, 03:10 AM
^^^^China knows that we are not stupid to fight them through military force, and we are playing our cards right by using diplomatic channels and the media to defend our sovereignty.

Thats why we should continue this through mass media, net, diplomatic channels and in the streets. The Filipino people should unite and fight the aggression of China through peaceful means.

LuckyLady
April 23rd, 2012, 03:31 AM
una namn silang nang hack, ilang beses na kaya na hack ang website ng Gov.ph, pero ngayon lang gumanti mga hackers natin.

Ayoko rin namn ng ganun, pero sa kaso ngayon, natutuwa ako at gumanti man lang ang mga pinoy hackers.

wala sa kalingkingan ang ginawa ng mga Pinoy kesa ginawa at gagawin pa lang ng Tsina.:nuts:

:okay: alam moyung feeling na matagal kang inaapiapi atngayon nakaganti ka man lang kahit konti lang:lol:

LuckyLady
April 23rd, 2012, 03:35 AM
^^^^China knows that we are not stupid to fight them through military force, and we are playing our cards right by using diplomatic channels and the media to defend our sovereignty.

Thats why we should continue this through mass media, net, diplomatic channels and in the streets. The Filipino people should unite and fight the aggression of China through peaceful means.


:okay: yeah let's continue this kind of fight wala tayong magawa eh, di natin pwedeng magharap harapan gyerasamgatsikom. kung araw araw pa sana may rallytayo mas maganda o kahitsaby sabay nasunog man langng tsikomfllags sa bahay natin

xxxriainxxx
April 23rd, 2012, 03:39 AM
Better cheer for Pinoy hackers than for NBN ZTE traitors like Gloria Arroyo.

jpdm
April 23rd, 2012, 03:42 AM
Pnoy has a discretionary funds, as commander in chief he can tell the Pinoy nation to unite and then support the acquisition (above board) of additional weapons from suppliers here and abroad. Weapons to be use for defense only.

We need more naval boats, radars, aircrafts and missile system. The Philippines should start building and improving permanent structures in Kalayaan and other claimed islands to protect our interests.

Nabartek
April 23rd, 2012, 03:45 AM
In its original sense, a hacker is someone who modifies codes. Kaya nga yung sa wordpress platforms, yung mga pangdagdag na features na iniinstall ang tawag dun ay wordpress hacks or plug-ins

Mercato
April 23rd, 2012, 03:54 AM
Ei, where's my British countryman? Nalingat lang ako ng saglit parang ang laki ng pinagbago ng thread na to a? :lol: :lol:

inaantay ko na lang na ma-hack ang PEx ....pag nangyari yun...giyera na talaga.Of all the Philippine websites na ma-hack, hell now this is one I wouldn't mind throwing away. Chinese hackers would actually be doing a great service not only to Filipinos but to the rest of humanity if they can obliterate this pathetic watering hole of the maids and jejemons. :lol: :lol: :rofl:

Why, it would be a great upliftment to the Filipino spirit and taste if they did :lol: :lol: ... y me importa un culo.

Nabartek
April 23rd, 2012, 04:17 AM
masanay ka na sa china, sanay yan sa kasinungalingan at pandadaya:lol::bash: that's a good ideaihackatdon napasabugin:lol:



Sabi ng china tayo daw nagaagravate, pero after that, ang mababasa mo , preparing for small scale war ang china

Bipolar din sila maglabas ng report

wolfram74
April 23rd, 2012, 04:41 AM
Better cheer for Pinoy hackers than for NBN ZTE traitors like Gloria Arroyo.

mga iskolar ng bayan, naging kriminal (hackers). yun ba ang mga pinapaaral naming mga taxpayers? LOL. they should have taken the higher, more dignified ground.

amigo32
April 23rd, 2012, 04:41 AM
In its original sense, a hacker is someone who modifies codes. Kaya nga yung sa wordpress platforms, yung mga pangdagdag na features na iniinstall ang tawag dun ay wordpress hacks or plug-ins

yun na kasi ang nakagisnan ng mga ordinaryong netizen. hindi nga masamang word ang hack, kaso yun kasi pinapangalan sa mga gumagawa ng panira sa isang system/server/website, o kahit simpleng mga bata naglalaro ng online games, nakuha lang ng ibang bata ang password nila sa pagsilip habang nagtatype, ayun hacker na ang tawag nila sa ibang bata, kaya yun naging masama na ang word na hackers:lol::lol::lol:


sabi ni wiki
Hacking means finding out weaknesses in a computer or computer network and exploiting them, though the term can also refer to someone with an advanced understanding of computers and computer networks.[1] Hackers may be motivated by a multitude of reasons, such as profit, protest, or challenge.[2] The subculture that has evolved around hackers is often referred to as the computer underground but it is now an open community.[3] While other uses of the word hacker exist that are not related to computer security, they are rarely used in mainstream context. They are subject to the long standing hacker definition controversy about the true meaning of the term hacker. In this controversy, the term hacker is reclaimed by computer programmers who argue that someone breaking into computers is better called a cracker,[4] not making a difference between computer criminals (black hats) and computer security experts (white hats). Some white hat hackers claim that they also deserve the title hacker, and that only black hats should be called crackers.

Nabartek
April 23rd, 2012, 04:45 AM
yun na kasi ang nakagisnan ng mga ordinaryong netizen. hindi nga masamang word ang hack, kaso yun kasi pinapangalan sa mga gumagawa ng panira sa isang system/server/website, kaya yun naging masama na ang word na hackers:lol::lol::lol:

Mga pinoy kasi di majolig gumamit ng dictionary. Ilan kaya dito ang iniisip kapag sinabing "salvage" eh ang ibig sabihin sa ingles "to kill"? :lol:

wiljoe
April 23rd, 2012, 04:45 AM
Let's do what we can to support our government:

1. Support the government stand: Scarborough Shoal is ours.
2. Denounce the continous presence of the Chinese trespassers.
3. Buy Philippine made goods. Boycott Chinese made products.
4. We are not against the Chinese people, only their government and the trespassing fishermen (probably being inducred by their government to illegally poach in our waters).

amigo32
April 23rd, 2012, 04:50 AM
Mga pinoy kasi di majolig gumamit ng dictionary. Ilan kaya dito ang iniisip kapag sinabing "salvage" eh ang ibig sabihin sa ingles "to kill"? :lol:

ang salvage sa Philippine english iba sa American english. to kill tapos to save:lol:

Nabartek
April 23rd, 2012, 04:51 AM
I just bought a made in usa and brazil footwear. I avoid any nade in china at all cost. Maghahanap ako ng made in the philippines.

Wind Shear
April 23rd, 2012, 05:01 AM
mga iskolar ng bayan, naging kriminal (hackers). yun ba ang mga pinapaaral naming mga taxpayers? LOL. they should have taken the higher, more dignified ground.

Since when hackers are criminals? :lol:

xxxriainxxx
April 23rd, 2012, 05:18 AM
^^ Higher, dignified ground for some people meant selling out.


Let's do what we can to support our government:

1. Support the government stand: Scarborough Shoal is ours.
2. Denounce the continous presence of the Chinese trespassers.
3. Buy Philippine made goods. Boycott Chinese made products.
4. We are not against the Chinese people, only their government and the trespassing fishermen (probably being induced by their government to illegally poach in our waters).

Every time a vessel is apprehended, make sure that photos/videos taken, evidence taken, jail the suspects and sink the boat or repaint it and donate it to Filipino fishermen.

bariQ
April 23rd, 2012, 05:19 AM
ibang pinoy talaga walang bayag, takot na takot sa kalaban kahit na tinatapakan na, siya pa nagsosorry. ipagpatuloy ang laban! :bow: ako sa mga pinoy hackers! kung pwede lang sana ma infiltrate ang intelligence ng china!

sa side ng pinas naman, wala namang website ang gobyerno ng pilipinas. de papel pa tay :lol:

xxxriainxxx
April 23rd, 2012, 05:22 AM
ibang pinoy talaga walang bayag, takot na takot sa kalaban kahit na tinatapakan na, siya pa nagsosorry. ipagpatuloy ang laban! :bow: ako sa mga pinoy hackers! kung pwede lang sana ma infiltrate ang intelligence ng china!

sa side ng pinas naman, wala namang website ang gobyerno ng pilipinas. de papel pa tay :lol:

sabi ko nga wala naman silang mahihita kung infiltrate nila ang Pilipinas. eh gobyerno natin hindi intelligent. :D

LuckyLady
April 23rd, 2012, 05:30 AM
^^ Higher, dignified ground for some people meant selling out.




Every time a vessel is apprehended, make sure that photos/videos taken, evidence taken, jail the suspects and sink the boat or repaint it and donate it to Filipino fishermen.

maging pabigat pa yan sila natin, ang dami pa naman nila, buti siguro palanguyin na lang natin sila pabalik sa kanila:lol:

xxxriainxxx
April 23rd, 2012, 05:42 AM
maging pabigat pa yan sila natin, ang dami pa naman nila, buti siguro palanguyin na lang natin sila pabalik sa kanila:lol:

Sabagay... pwede rin na ilagay na lang sila sa isang bangka at bigyan ng konting tubig at pagkain tapos hayaan sila sa laot. :D

hakz2007
April 23rd, 2012, 05:51 AM
China needs 'consistent policy' on South China Sea
http://64.19.142.13/news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/59671000/jpg/_59671327_014498271-1.jpg

China needs a ''consistent policy'' on the South China Sea if it is to resolve disputes, a new report says.

The International Crisis Group said ''conflicting mandates'' and ''lack of co-ordination'' among Chinese agencies had stoked tension in the region.Read more (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-17809959)

Nabartek
April 23rd, 2012, 06:06 AM
Interesting. The problem with Chinese public statement is it seems bipolar at best... Just like the recent obe ehere the chinese ambassador said that china exercises restraint then followed by a report that they are gearing for small scale war :lol:

Mercato
April 23rd, 2012, 06:09 AM
^^ disinformation and subterfuge to keep the enemy off balance.

Nabartek
April 23rd, 2012, 06:20 AM
I really wonder if the CCP even tries to view things or think things out of the box... They seem to all be inward and never outward

wolfram74
April 23rd, 2012, 06:30 AM
^^ Higher, dignified ground for some people meant selling out.


sa sobrang dignified ng ginawa nilang hacking, ayaw nga nila ipakilala ang mga sarili nila. yung code name pa nung isa - "supra d*ck"

dignified indeed. LOL

Askal82
April 23rd, 2012, 06:44 AM
Interesting. The problem with Chinese public statement is it seems bipolar at best... Just like the recent obe ehere the chinese ambassador said that china exercises restraint then followed by a report that they are gearing for small scale war :lol:

^^ disinformation and subterfuge to keep the enemy off balance.

Of course, they want to confuse the situation. It doesn't matter - we are already anticipating their game plan - it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure them out.

They are frustrated because they can't simply make their first move especially with the ongoing Balikatan exercises and blamed US of meddling with 'our' affairs. Why would all of a sudden, they have concerns in our foreign policy with the US regarding this matter? :lol:

If Philippines leave the shoal and let them easily take it like a candy, it will only embolden them on their military quest.

Mercato
April 23rd, 2012, 07:00 AM
Of course, they want to confuse the situation. It doesn't matter - we are already anticipating their game plan - it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure them out.

They are frustrated because they can't simply make their first move especially with the ongoing Balikatan exercises and blamed US of meddling with 'our' affairs. Why would all of a sudden, they have concerns in our foreign policy with the US regarding this matter? :lol:

If Philippines leave the shoal and let them easily take it like a candy, it will only embolden them on their military quest.The AFP or ISAFP should provide more funding and education to these intrepid youngsters to graduate to the next level. Like sabotaging incoming missiles and rockets, scrambling defense and navy sites along their Southern bases, etc etc... or sending these kids to train with either the Indians (the Indians have a reputation at IT), with the Mossad or with the CIA. :cool:

Askal82
April 23rd, 2012, 07:08 AM
The AFP or ISAFP should provide more funding and education to these intrepid youngsters to graduate to the next level. Like sabotaging incoming missiles and rockets, scrambling defense and navy sites along their Southern bases, etc etc... or sending these kids to train with either the Indians (the Indians have a reputation at IT), with the Mossad or with the CIA. :cool:

Totally agree. Modernization and education is really the key. You can already see the potential of these people by hacking on their websites and unlike the government of China, they are not even funded by the Philippines government. ;)

So what more if they are given full support to fully exploit their potential to help us secure our national interests and provide a good level of cyber defense?

But according to someone over here, that hacking is a criminal activity. ;)

xxxriainxxx
April 23rd, 2012, 07:10 AM
Just learned that Chinese hackers hacked our company website here in Vietnam too. WTF?

Mercato
April 23rd, 2012, 07:18 AM
Totally agree. Modernization and education is really the key. You can already see the potential of these people by hacking on their websites and unlike the government of China, they are not even funded by the Philippines government. ;)

So what more if they are given full support to fully exploit their potential to help us secure our national interests and provide a good level of cyber defense?

But according to someone over here, that hacking is a criminal activity. ;)Yes. Indeed. To make it more palatable to the fifth columnists and Beijing saboteurs, we must endeavour to have these hackers publish their full identities on Facebook complete with contact numbers and addresses and pictures with their families in it. They should also go around in public wearing full size IDs declaring they are hackers. Anything just to please the Celestial Emperor. :lol: :lol:

Wonders never cease to amaze me. :rofl:

Just learned that Chinese hackers hacked our company website here in Vietnam too. WTF?I know of 2 Canadian economic ministry sites that had been hacked too. Also Citibank of NY.

hakz2007
April 23rd, 2012, 07:49 AM
China warned against deploying more ships
MANILA, Philippines — China is deploying more surveillance and paramilitary ships to the West Philippine Sea (South China Sea) without a clear legal framework to assert its ambiguous territorial claims, risking more confrontations, a report said Monday.

The bigger patrol ships sent by Chinese maritime surveillance and fisheries agencies have figured in major flare-ups, including an ongoing standoff with a Philippine coast guard vessel over a disputed shoal off the western Philippine coast.Read more (http://globalnation.inquirer.net/34409/china-warned-against-deploying-more-ships)

hakz2007
April 23rd, 2012, 07:51 AM
In times like this, Filipinos should all unite :applause::applause::applause:

Sison chides China for ‘absurd’ Panatag claim
http://1-ps.googleusercontent.com/h/globalnation.inquirer.net/files/2012/04/300x224xjose-maria-sison-300x224.jpg.pagespeed.ic.TT8gkBM0jV.jpg

The founder of the Maoist party in the Philippines disapproves of what he calls China’s imperialist and capitalist designs in the West Philippine Sea including the Panatag Shoal, where Chinese poachers triggered a standoff between Philippine and Chinese authorities.

Jose Maria Sison, founder of the Communist Party of the Philippines, said China’s historical claims over what it calls the South China Sea amount to an absurdity, “as this would be like Italy claiming … all areas previously occupied by the Roman Empire.”

“Chinese historical claims since ancient times amount to an absurdity as this would be like Italy claiming as its sovereign possession all areas previously occupied by the Roman Empire,” said Sison, now also the chair of the International League of Peoples’ Struggle.

“The name China Sea was invented by European cartographers and should not lead anyone to think that the entire sea belongs to China. In the same vein, neither does the entire Indian Ocean belong to India,” Sison said.

Sison’s remarks came in response to questions posed by Bayan Secretary General Renato Reyes about the standoff between the Philippines and China at Panatag Shoal, internationally known as Scarborough Shoal.

Bayan, the nominated section of the National Democratic Front of the Philippines (NDFP), shared Sison’s answers with the Inquirer by e-mail.Read more (http://globalnation.inquirer.net/34279/sison-chides-china-for-absurd-panatag-claim)

amigo32
April 23rd, 2012, 07:59 AM
And so?


Sasama ba kayong mga members ng CCP/NPA sa giyera laban sa TSINA?:D

ihanda na ang inyong hukbo, kayo mauuna magbantay doon:rofl: tingnan natin kung kakampi talaga kayo sa Pinas o kakampi ng Tsina:rofl:

wolfram74
April 23rd, 2012, 07:59 AM
Totally agree. Modernization and education is really the key. You can already see the potential of these people by hacking on their websites and unlike the government of China, they are not even funded by the Philippines government. ;)

So what more if they are given full support to fully exploit their potential to help us secure our national interests and provide a good level of cyber defense?

But according to someone over here, that hacking is a criminal activity. ;)


basahin mo ang Republic Act 8792, which specifically mentions hacking as a crime. reading that law should hopefully stimulate growth of neurons in your stagnant brain. LOL

Nabartek
April 23rd, 2012, 08:19 AM
In times like this, Filipinos should all unite :applause::applause::applause:

Sison chides China for ‘absurd’ Panatag claim
Read more (http://globalnation.inquirer.net/34279/sison-chides-china-for-absurd-panatag-claim)

Imbes military natin isabotage nila, mga "surveillance" vessrls ng China sabotage nila... :lol:

LuckyLady
April 23rd, 2012, 08:22 AM
Imbes military natin isabotage nila, mga "surveillance" vessrls ng China sabotage nila... :lol:

:okay: but don't be dupe by that tricky cpp who knows china is just helping them to gain the trust of our country to stop the activities of our military in the south and to elect more of their representatives in the congress. and last we know we are already governed by china:lol:

amigo32
April 23rd, 2012, 08:24 AM
Intsik na nga president natin este nyo ngayon eh:lol:

LuckyLady
April 23rd, 2012, 08:29 AM
Interesting. The problem with Chinese public statement is it seems bipolar at best... Just like the recent obe ehere the chinese ambassador said that china exercises restraint then followed by a report that they are gearing for small scale war :lol:

^^ disinformation and subterfuge to keep the enemy off balance.

sanay an sanay sila yan ang ginagawa nila talaga sa mga kaaway, tingnan mo lang ginagawa nila sa Taiwan na relatives nila daw:nuts:

peaceful reunification daw pero ilang ballistic missiles ang nakatutok dito:lol::ohno: they are even using/forcing the taiwanese businessman to influence the outcome of election in taiwan. and if accused they would deny eveything:ohno:

LuckyLady
April 23rd, 2012, 08:30 AM
Intsik na nga president natin este nyo ngayon eh:lol:

kelan ka ba nag change citizenship:lol: kala ko ba mag vo volunteer ka rin:lol:

Nabartek
April 23rd, 2012, 08:33 AM
sanay an sanay sila yan ang ginagawa nila talaga sa mga kaaway, tingnan mo lang ginagawa nila sa Taiwan na relatives nila daw:nuts:

peaceful reunification daw pero ilang ballistic missiles ang nakatutok dito:lol::ohno: they are even using/forcing the taiwanese businessman to influence the outcome of election in taiwan. and if accused they would deny eveything:ohno:


Chinglish kasi eh. Mga food menu nila madaling f***k, yung peaceful napagkamalan nila sa PIECEful :lol:

amigo32
April 23rd, 2012, 08:34 AM
kelan ka ba nag change citizenship:lol: kala ko ba mag vo volunteer ka rin:lol:

hindi ako Pinoy ngayon hanggang 2016:lol:

LuckyLady
April 23rd, 2012, 08:36 AM
hindi ako Pinoy ngayon hanggang 2016:lol:

ha ha may expiration talaga ha:lol:

Chinglish kasi eh. Mga food menu nila madaling f***k, yung peaceful napagkamalan nila sa PIECEful :lol:

:lol:

Lilyr
April 23rd, 2012, 08:50 AM
Time to stop squawking, eaglet.:hi:



http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/asia/290016/us-commander-reaffirms-philippines-defence-treaty

A senior US commander in the Pacific reaffirmed the United States' mutual defence treaty with the Philippines Sunday amid increased tensions between the archipelago and China.

US Marine Lieutenant General Duane Theissen (L), commanding general marine forces pacific speaks during a press conference at a military base in Puerto Princesa, Palawan island. The senior US commander in the Pacific reaffirmed the United States' mutual defence treaty with the Philippines Sunday amid increased tensions between the archipelago and China.

In the strongest comments yet from an American official on the South China Sea dispute, Commander of the US Marines in the Pacific Lieutenant General Duane Thiessen said the Philippines and US were bound by a military agreement.

"The United States and the Philippines have a mutual defence treaty which guarantees that we get involved in each other's defense and that is self explanatory," he told reporters in Puerto Princesa, the capital of Palawan.

Thiessen was responding to a question about whether the US would provide assistance if Chinese armed forces attacked Philippine units over conflicting claims to the Scarborough Shoal which have flared up in recent weeks...

Nabartek
April 23rd, 2012, 08:57 AM
^^ i cringe when someone asks questions like that... Papa sugar helP me mentality :lol:

wynngd
April 23rd, 2012, 09:01 AM
sa sobrang dignified ng ginawa nilang hacking, ayaw nga nila ipakilala ang mga sarili nila. yung code name pa nung isa - "supra d*ck"

dignified indeed. LOL

Funny that you are calling those hackers childish and yet you are here in a public forum trying to win an argument and trying to be self-righteous...

Alam naman namin point mo... Masyado kang bitter, eh lumalabas mas mapapel ka pa sa mga hackers. Ang masama ikaw puro daldal, ang mga binabatikos mo may nagawa. I know if ever "knock on wood" magkaroon ng war between us and China, isa ka sa magtatago sa ilalim ng kama mo instead na mag-volunteer sa AFP.

Bahay_Kubo
April 23rd, 2012, 09:04 AM
just to be clear: the MDT that we have with the US will only take effect if we are the ones attacked.

kung tayo ang unang aatake o magpapaputok, HINDI MAKIKIALAM ang US, the MDT won't take effect. yan ang pagkakataon na hinihintay ng China: ang tayo ang unang magpaputok para hindi makialam ang US at walang MDT na eepekto.

kenken94
April 23rd, 2012, 09:18 AM
^^ That is why 'bantay-salakay' mode tayo ngayon. But we still have more means to deal with China than just that. The alliance with the US is a deterrent that can buy us some time to make our move and involve everyone else in the world - international attention. Let China have the benefit of relief from its domestic issues with this one.

It is beneficial to us as it can be to them. With these incidents, we see Filipinos become united more than they have ever been. This standoff will only prove as a glue that will stick the nation as a truly united nation. Time to ease the internal issues, let's deal with the COMMON ENEMY first. :cheers:

I'm just wondering, 'what if' Uncle Hu can't hold it any longer and decides to wage war with the Philippines. What would be perhaps the reaction of the international community? Which and whose countries would come to aid us first? :)

Bahay_Kubo
April 23rd, 2012, 09:18 AM
China policy battles boost South China Sea strains (http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/23/china-southchinasea-idUSL3E8FN26T20120423)
By Michael Martina and Manuel Mogato
Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:43am EDT


* Philippine commander seeks more patrols of disputed area

* ICG report says China's image "gravely tarnished"

* U.S., Philippines conduct annual military exercises (Adds Philippines seeks more patrols, links to graphic, factbox)


BEIJING/MANILA, April 23 (Reuters) - Jockeying by Chinese agencies over policy fiefdoms and budgets threatens to intensify tensions in the disputed South China Sea, a respected think tank warned on Monday, with the Philippines seeking more patrols to guard against China's claims.

China has territorial disputes with the Philippines, Vietnam, Brunei, Malaysia and Taiwan across the South China Sea. They worry over what some see as growing Chinese assertiveness in staking claims over the sea's islands, reefs and shoals.

On Sunday, the commander of security forces on the western Philippines island of Palawan said he had asked for more ships and planes to be deployed to step up patrols in his area, fearing China may build on uninhabited features there.

"In the age of prefab materials, they can do it in just one day," Lieutenant General Juancho Sabban told reporters after annual U.S.-Philippines war games on the island.

Sabban's area of command includes the Spratly islands, one of the main disputed areas in the South China Sea.

"That's our concern in the West Philippine Sea, that's why we conduct regular patrols. We have more patrols now than before and we are asking for more air assets so we can patrol the area," he said.

Sabban said there is growing concern over China's increased presence in the South China Sea, including plans to place markers in contested waters that are seen as an attempt to bolster its territorial claims.

In a report released on Monday, the International Crisis Group (ICG) said weak coordination among the various Chinese government bodies responsible for South China Sea policy has also complicated China's attempt at a peaceful rise.

"The escalating tensions since 2009 have dealt a severe blow to Beijing's relationships with its Southeast Asian neighbours and gravely tarnished its image both regionally and internationally," the ICG report said.

"While some efforts have been made to patch up diplomatic ties since mid-2011, the longer-term situation in the South China Sea will remain volatile in light of China's internal coordination problems," it said.


MILITARY EXERCISES

The ICG report said at least 11 ministry-level government agencies, and five law enforcement agencies under them, play a part in China's South China Sea management. China's navy, it said, uses territorial disputes to validate modernisation.

"While some agencies act aggressively to compete with one another for greater portions of the budget pie, others attempt to expand their economic activities in disputed areas due to their single-minded focus on economic growth," the report said.

"The biggest problem in coordinating the actors - apart from their number - is that most of these agencies were originally established to implement domestic policies but now play a foreign policy role," it said.

Adding to the confusion, provincial governments in coastal regions that border the South China Sea have increased tensions with their profit-driven behaviour, such as promoting tourism in the disputed waters, the report said.

China has pushed forward on tourism plans in the South China Sea, completing a trial voyage by a cruise ship earlier this month to the Paracel Islands, called the Xisha islands in Chinese but also claimed by Vietnam.

China's military, in a commentary in the official Liberation Army Daily on Saturday, warned the United States that U.S.-Philippine military exercises have raised the risk of armed confrontation in the South China Sea.

U.S. and Philippine troops launched two weeks of annual naval drills in mid-April. Amphibious landing drills were set to take place on Wednesday in areas facing the South China Sea. On Saturday, joint marine units simulated an assault to retake an oil rig from militants in northern Palawan.

U.S. and Philippine military officials however said the drills were not directed at China or any other party.

Two areas in the South China Sea are among 15 oil and gas exploration blocks to be opened by the Philippines for bids later this week.

In recent weeks, Philippine and Chinese ships have faced off near the Scarborough Shoal in waters, claimed by Manila and Beijing, that are believed to be rich in oil and gas.

Nabartek
April 23rd, 2012, 09:22 AM
just to be clear: the MDT that we have with the US will only take effect if we are the ones attacked.

kung tayo ang unang aatake o magpapaputok, HINDI MAKIKIALAM ang US, the MDT won't take effect. yan ang pagkakataon na hinihintay ng China: ang tayo ang unang magpaputok para hindi makialam ang US at walang MDT na eepekto.



Ganito ata nangyari sa georgia kaya di din nakialam nato. Sila unang nagpaputok sa south ossetia

jpdm
April 23rd, 2012, 09:30 AM
Funny that you are calling those hackers childish and yet you are here in a public forum trying to win an argument and trying to be self-righteous...

Alam naman namin point mo... Masyado kang bitter, eh lumalabas mas mapapel ka pa sa mga hackers. Ang masama ikaw puro daldal, ang mga binabatikos mo may nagawa. I know if ever "knock on wood" magkaroon ng war between us and China, isa ka sa magtatago sa ilalim ng kama mo instead na mag-volunteer sa AFP.

Ouch...direct hit!:lol::lol::lol:

hakz2007
April 23rd, 2012, 09:30 AM
Balikatan 2012: FTX / Mil-to-Mil training
by Exercise Balikatan (http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.296269210450383.67269.116470855096887&type=3)

A CH-46E Sea Knight helicopter waits on the flight line of Antonio Bautista Air Base in Puerto Princesa, Palawan. Multiple CH-46Es with Marine Medium Helicopter Squadron 262 (HMM-262) arrived as a part of Exercise Balikatan 2012 (BK12). BK12, in its 28th iteration, is an annual bilateral training exercise between the U.S. and the Republic of the Philippines that builds both nations interoperability during joint planning, contingency, humanitarian and disaster relief operations. HMM-262 is with Marine Aircraft Group 36, 1st Marine Aircraft Wing, III Marine Expeditionary Force.
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A U.S. Marine CH-46E Sea Knight helicopter assigned to the Flying Tigers of Marine Medium Helicopter Squadron (HMM) 262 lifts off the flight deck of the forward-deployed amphibious dock landing ship USS Tortuga (LSD 46). Tortuga is a part of the Essex amphibious ready group and is participating in Balikatan 2012, an annual bilateral exercise designed to improve interoperability between the U.S. Navy, Marines and Armed Forces of the Philippines.
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hakz2007
April 23rd, 2012, 09:32 AM
Balikatan 2012: FTX / Mil-to-Mil training
by Exercise Balikatan (http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.296269210450383.67269.116470855096887&type=3)

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Landing Craft Air Cushion 21 and 81 maneuver into the well deck of the forward-deployed amphibious dock landing ship USS Tortuga (LSD 46).

hakz2007
April 23rd, 2012, 09:35 AM
Balikatan 2012: Humanitarian Civic Assistance (HCA)
by Exercise Balikatan (http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.281167428627228.64064.116470855096887&type=3)

U.S. and Philippine forces partner in Palawan to provide civic assistance to rural areas in Puerto Princesa during Exercise Balikatan 2012. The projects enable bilateral training for the engineers and medical personnel while providing services to less-fortunate areas.
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jpdm
April 23rd, 2012, 09:35 AM
I just bought a made in usa and brazil footwear. I avoid any nade in china at all cost. Maghahanap ako ng made in the philippines.

Amen.:cheers:

In times like this, Filipinos should all unite :applause::applause::applause:

Sison chides China for ‘absurd’ Panatag claim
Read more (http://globalnation.inquirer.net/34279/sison-chides-china-for-absurd-panatag-claim)

:cheers::cheers::cheers:

Nabartek
April 23rd, 2012, 09:35 AM
Nakakainggit yug chinook ng marines....

Bahay_Kubo
April 23rd, 2012, 09:45 AM
Nakakainggit yug chinook ng marines....

it's actually a CH-46 Sea Knight. the Chinook is only in service with the US Army.

Mercato
April 23rd, 2012, 09:46 AM
Dont look now, folks.

Sa'ng diario ko ba nabasa yun???? I'm pressed for time but here goes. North Korea had just announced that it will fire rocket after rocket sometime in the near future. Naman, naman.... Talaga nga naman yung stuck-up North Asian cultural trait called "Can't Afford to Lose Face"... :lol: :lol: :rofl:

jpdm
April 23rd, 2012, 09:55 AM
Dont look now, folks.

Sa'ng diario ko ba nabasa yun???? I'm pressed for time but here goes. North Korea had just announced that it will fire rocket after rocket sometime in the near future. Naman, naman.... Talaga nga naman yung stuck-up North Asian cultural trait called "Can't Afford to Lose Face"... :lol: :lol: :rofl:

Same with China, nang-bully na. Uurong pa ba sila e lumabas na sila na masama...:bash::bash:

coldfire083
April 23rd, 2012, 11:05 AM
Maganda din siguro kapag may VFA din tayo sa Japan, Australia and SoKor. Isama na din ang taiwan para ma highblood Politburo ng China.

TheAvenger
April 23rd, 2012, 11:35 AM
Time to stop squawking, eaglet.:hi:

Time to stop squawking, eaglet.


Quote:

http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/asia...defence-treaty

A senior US commander in the Pacific reaffirmed the United States' mutual defence treaty with the Philippines Sunday amid increased tensions between the archipelago and China.

US Marine Lieutenant General Duane Theissen (L), commanding general marine forces pacific speaks during a press conference at a military base in Puerto Princesa, Palawan island. The senior US commander in the Pacific reaffirmed the United States' mutual defence treaty with the Philippines Sunday amid increased tensions between the archipelago and China.

In the strongest comments yet from an American official on the South China Sea dispute, Commander of the US Marines in the Pacific Lieutenant General Duane Thiessen said the Philippines and US were bound by a military agreement.

"The United States and the Philippines have a mutual defence treaty which guarantees that we get involved in each other's defense and that is self explanatory," he told reporters in Puerto Princesa, the capital of Palawan.

Thiessen was responding to a question about whether the US would provide assistance if Chinese armed forces attacked Philippine units over conflicting claims to the Scarborough Shoal which have flared up in recent weeks...


BUT THE U.S.-PHILIPPINES MUTUAL DEFENSE TREATY HAS AMBIGUITY.

THEY CAN INTERRET THE WORD " PACIFIC AREA " IN DIFFERENT WAY IF THE AMERICANS IS AFRAID OF FIGHTING PRC CHINA - THE NEW IMPERIALIST, OR IF THEY THINK IT IS NOT IN AMERICAN INTEREST TO FIGHT CHINA.

*****************************************

Mutual Defense Treaty Between the United States and the Republic of the Philippines; August 30, 1951

Art 1 Art 2 Art 3 Art 4 Art 5 Art 6 Art 7 Art 8


ARTICLE IV
Each Party recognizes that an armed attack in the Pacific Area on either of the Parties would be dangerous to its own peace and safety and declares that it would act to meet the common dangers in accordance with its constitutional processes.

Any such armed attack and all measures taken as a result thereof shall be immediately reported to the Security Council of the United Nations. Such measures shall be terminated when the Security Council has taken the measures necessary to restore and maintain international peace and security.

ARTICLE V
For the purpose of Article IV, an armed attack on either of the Parties is deemed to include an armed attack on the metropolitan territory of either of the Parties, or on the island territories under its jurisdiction in the Pacific or on its armed forces, public vessels or aircraft in the Pacific.



http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/phil001.asp

Mercato
April 23rd, 2012, 12:33 PM
We hope it remains that way for the next hundred more years. :cheers2: Not really sure. Is that where we got the name for the native delicacy Kuchinta? I do know of the pirate's name - Limahong. He was also defeated by the Spanish.


pls see my blog, abouyt the pirate Limahong:

http://jibraelangel2blog.blogspot.com/2010/07/attempted-conquest-of-luzon-by-chinese_24.htmloooh, I seem to have missed this one. Thanks @Avenger.

As I was lookin at the invasion forces of the pirate Limahong and how their invasion route was,.... twas 62 warships, 2000 sailors, 2000 soldiers, 1500 women and various artisans... They first set foot on Ilocos Norte and attacked Villa Fernandina (later to be called Vigan) and then landed in Paranaque and Cavite and marched to Manila. After their initial setbacks, they fled up north to set up a redoubt in Pangasinan until they were totally defeated.

Using 15th century technology at the time and starting off from the southern Chinese coast, they were able to attack many points along Western Luzon. Predictably from Ilocos all the way down to Cavite and then Manila. Does anyone want a dejavu in the 21st century and this time using 21st century technology from a distance of less than 150nautical miles only?

What were we saying about a Chinese Naval platform on Scarborough? With Scarborough only 138NM from the nearest point in Luzon? And with 21st century technology to boot? If any Filo would like to see a repeat of the siege of Ilocos down to Cavite/ Paranaque and then a march to Malate/ Manilal, why all he has to do is hand over Scarborough on a silver platter to President Hu Jintao... Like what Gloria Arroyo almost did.

Mercato
April 23rd, 2012, 12:39 PM
Same with China, nang-bully na. Uurong pa ba sila e lumabas na sila na masama...:bash::bash:If the Philippines had maintained its No.2 spot to Japan and had the nuclear capabilities like Israel, I wouldnt really mind wiping North Korea off the face of the planet. It's another one of those useless pathetic sorry excuses for a State. It's brain dead people dont deserve to be in the same plane of existence as the rest of the civilised world.

Guess who's behind all this? And guess where the targets (plural) are gonna be at? The Philippines - from sea to shining sea.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/north-korea-vows-fresh-rocket-launches/story-e6frg6so-1226334339844


North Korea vows fresh rocket launches

AFP
April 20, 201212:51PM

NORTH Korea has vowed to launch satellites "one after another", vigorously rejecting international condemnation of an April 13 launch that was seen overseas as a disguised ballistic missile test.

The rocket, which Pyongyang said was intended to put a satellite into orbit, disintegrated some two minutes after blast-off. The UN Security Council strongly condemned the launch and said it would tighten existing sanctions.

In a statement today, the North said it has already completed an investigation into the cause of the failure. The data and experience gained would be "a reliable guarantee for greater success in the days ahead", it said.

"No matter how loudly the US and Japanese reactionaries and their followers may cry and no matter how frantically the Lee Myung-Bak group of rats may squeak, the DPRK's (North Korea's) satellites for peaceful purposes will be put into space one after another."

The North has criticised South Korea's conservative President Lee in extreme terms in recent months.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> read more

pmarl
April 23rd, 2012, 01:10 PM
The Problem with the Philippines goveremnet is they lack foresight they knew that a decade ago this kinda incidents with china will increase as soon as china's navies are capable to do so .and yet the goverment didnt do nothing ..now we are in deep sh*t

jpdm
April 23rd, 2012, 01:15 PM
Bully na China sinungaling pa! Alam na ng mundo ang pagiging masiba ng China!:bash::bash::bash:


China to Phl: We've acted with restraint



By Pia Lee-Brago
(The Philippine Star)
Updated April 23, 2012


MANILA, Philippines - Even as more Chinese ships were deployed to Panatag (Scarborough) Shoal, China yesterday denied aggravating the situation and said it has been exercising “restraint” as its naval assets have not been sent.

Chinese embassy spokesman Zhang Hua said the Chinese ships deployed in Scarborough are for fishery administration and law enforcement. He said one surveillance ship has left the area.

“We have been very restrained up until now. One of our surveillance ships has left,” Zhang said in a text message to The STAR.

A Chinese fishery and maritime law enforcement ship – considered the most advanced in its class – arrived in the shoal 124 nautical miles off Masinloc, Zambales and linked up with another Chinese vessel that was involved in a standoff with a Philippine Coast Guard search and rescue vessel.

The newly arrived ship is the biggest so far that was deployed by China in asserting its claim to the shoal, which is well within the Philippines’ 200-mile exclusive economic zone.

The Department of Foreign Affairs (DFA) earlier said China’s action to deploy more ships aggravated the situation even after Secretary Albert del Rosario and Chinese Ambassador Ma Keqing had agreed to “no surprises order” so as not to increase the tension between the two countries.

“We did not aggravate the situation at all. First, it is China’s territory. Second, it is the Philippine Navy that pointed their guns at our fishermen. We have not sent our Navy yet, but only civilian ships,” Zhang pointed out.

Confident that the world is watching China’s behavior in the shoal, the Philippines declared on Friday it will “unilaterally” bring up the issue before the International Tribunal on the Law of the Sea (ITLOS) to resolve the territorial dispute should Beijing refuse to join Manila in submitting the claims and defending their respective positions before the United Nations-backed tribunal.:cheers::cheers:

Foreign Affairs spokesman Raul Hernandez said China violated the agreement with the Philippines not to undertake any action that would aggravate and escalate the situation in the shoal by deploying more vessels in addition to the two Chinese maritime vessels involved in a standoff with a lone Philippine Coast Guard ship.

Hernandez said a legal team is now preparing to proceed to ITLOS if the Philippines will get a negative answer from China when both sides meet again.

China rejected the Philippines’ invitation to go to ITLOS saying the issue should be resolved through diplomatic solution.

The Philippine side will demand an answer and explanation from China for deploying additional vessels and an aircraft and violation of the agreement.

Three foreign vessels and two small boats were spotted on Wednesday in the shoal, on the same day the Philippine-commissioned MT Sarangani left the area after conducting an archeological survey.

China maintained the Scarborough Shoal dispute should be resolved through “friendly” consultations but its actions are contrary to its declaration.

Zhang urged the Philippines not to aggravate the incident but he stressed commitment to settle the dispute through friendly consultations.

On the other hand, China’s top military newspaper warned the US on Saturday that its joint military exercises with the Philippines have fanned risks of armed confrontation over the West Philippine Sea (South China Sea).

The commentary in China’s Liberation Army Daily marked the harshest high-level warning yet from Beijing about tensions with the Philippines over disputed seas where both countries have recently sent ships to assert their claims.

‘Symptomatic, bullying tactic’

Sen. Panfilo Lacson said China’s assertion of almost the entire West Philippine Sea could be a move to control trade and commerce in the region.

“There is more than meets the eye here. China is into economic colonization of the eastern world,” said Lacson, chairman of the Senate committee on national defense and security.

He said the situation in the Scarborough Shoal, where China has deployed several surveillance vessels in defiance of the Philippines claim over the territory, should be seen in a wider perspective other than a dispute over territorial waters.

Lacson said China’s action in the region is “symptomatic of China’s long standing bullying tactic of Taiwan by invoking province-state relations in order to have control of the Taiwan straits.”:bash::bash:

He stressed the Philippine government must convince not only its Asian neighbors but also its allies in the US and the West that the situation in Scarborough Shoal would also have an impact on their interests in the region as well.

“Their bigger objective could very well be to be able to control international trade and commerce by having complete control of the sea lanes where goods and other commercial products and materials pass,” Lacson added.

The Philippine government has called on the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) to take a collective stand on what China is doing in the region since it would affect the interests of the member-nations in the regional group.

More than the ASEAN, Lacson said it would be best for the superpowers to step in now and support the Philippines and the other concerned countries.

“If the USA and other European countries realize the far-reaching economic implications of China’s military posturing in the South China Sea, which is well within the territorial limits of the Philippines, sooner than later they may just act proactively in addressing this problem which is not just ours to solve,” Lacson said.

“In short, all these Chinese military maneuvers and deployments are not merely tactical but strategic and have to do with economic dominance of the world via the control of international trade and commerce in the whole China Sea,” he added. -Marvin Sy, Helen Flores

http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=799784&publicationSubCategoryId=63


Hindi lang magaling mamirata,kundi tunay at asal pirata talaga ang komunistang gobyerno ng Tsina!:bash::bash:

Makakarma din ang China!:lol::lol:

kenken94
April 23rd, 2012, 01:17 PM
Just saw it on ABiaS-CBN: PH will consult the Scarborough Shoal standoff with the US. I think it was Secretary Del Rosario that will be leaving for Washington to meet with Secretary Hillary Clinton. :cheers:

The Chinese also recalled back 2 ships from the shoal. It is now 2 PH Coast Guard ships and 1 Chinese surveillance ships.

They also reiterated by saying that they(PRC) are willing to settle the disputes diplomatically. No I was wondering, why did they reject the challenge to ITLOS? Hmmm. And then I thought, the Chinese Government doesn't have common sense and critical thinking anyway relative to PH Government's lack of foresight on the issue. Ok. I'm not expecting so much from them. :D

kenken94
April 23rd, 2012, 01:20 PM
Bully na China sinungaling pa! Alam na ng mundo ang pagiging masiba ng China!:bash::bash::bash:




Hindi lang magaling mamirata,kundi tunay at asal pirata talaga ang komunistang gobyerno ng Tsina!:bash::bash:

Makakarma din ang China!:lol::lol:

I was quite surprised that China is well aware that our allies does not only include the US, SK and Japan but the entire Western world as well. I did not expect them to have such a great view about our country. :lol:

jpdm
April 23rd, 2012, 01:26 PM
^^^^^^In my opinion, the diplomatic campaign and media offensive of the government are working and they should up the ante, by bringing the case to the UN and other international arbiters.

On the other hand, the Philippines should continue standing its ground in Panatag by deploying more civilian ships and as I said bancas.


I like the way, Pinoys from all sector, the government, local media, people's organizations, the Left and now our legislators are all in chorus in condemning China.

We Pinoys should sent the message to the people of China that their oppressive government is bullying a peace loving country like the Philippines.

wolfram74
April 23rd, 2012, 01:30 PM
an unsurprisingly wise statement from the UP administration :applause::applause:


UP statement on the defacement of its website (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=799966&publicationSubCategoryId=200)

MANILA, Philippines - The University of the Philippines (UP) administration called on concerned Filipinos to stop defacing websites of Chinese institutions in retaliation to the hacking of the UP website, saying "[we] are more sensible than this, and our expertise is better used in productive endeavors."

"We appeal to the public to avoid jumping to conclusions and taking actions that could further inflame people's sentiments, particularly on the territorial dispute between the Philippines and China. Giving the perceived 'enemies' a dose of their own medicine by hacking their alleged country's websites achieves nothing but unproductive counter-actions," UP President Alfredo Pascual said in a statement.


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shame on those hackers, if you really are students/alumni of UP :bash:
shame, as well, on those UP alumni who supported those hackers :bash:
"proud to be an iskolar ng bayan" daw, sabi ng isang UP alumnus dito na supporter ng hackers :ohno:

kenken94
April 23rd, 2012, 01:31 PM
^^ They'll have to be careful in dealing with the Philippines. We have always been wary of aggression by a foreign power and we've been through to those kinds of scenarios in the past. There's no way they'll beat us in Scarborough unless they use brute force but then again, it won't end well for them as it will for us.

They're good image have already been tarnished by their immature attitude and sheer arrogance in dealing with the Philippines.

kenken94
April 23rd, 2012, 01:34 PM
an unsurprisingly wise statement from the UP administration :applause::applause:


UP statement on the defacement of its website (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=799966&publicationSubCategoryId=200)

MANILA, Philippines - The University of the Philippines (UP) administration called on concerned Filipinos to stop defacing websites of Chinese institutions in retaliation to the hacking of the UP website, saying "[we] are more sensible than this, and our expertise is better used in productive endeavors."

"We appeal to the public to avoid jumping to conclusions and taking actions that could further inflame people's sentiments, particularly on the territorial dispute between the Philippines and China. Giving the perceived 'enemies' a dose of their own medicine by hacking their alleged country's websites achieves nothing but unproductive counter-actions," UP President Alfredo Pascual said in a statement.


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shame on those hackers, if you really are students/alumni of UP :bash:
shame, as well, on those UP alumni who supported those hackers :bash:
"proud to be an iskolar ng bayan" daw, sabi ng isang UP alumnus dito na supporter ng hackers :ohno:

Trying to win an argument. We know what your point is already. It's no use repeating the same thing over and over again. :lol:

And again, bashing another forista is now way of forcing your ideas on us.

wolfram74
April 23rd, 2012, 01:36 PM
Palace websites attacked by ‘Chinese networks' (http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/04/23/12/palace-websites-attacked-%E2%80%98chinese-networks)

MANILA, Philippines (UPDATED) - The dispute between China and the Philippines over Scarborough Shoal continued to spill over into cyberspace with Philippine government websites being attacked by “Chinese networks" on Monday.

In a statement, Presidential Spokesperson Edwin Lacierda said: “the Presidential Communications Development and Strategic Planning Office (PCDSPO) noticed a significant spike in traffic with malicious URL requests from forged user-agents being channeled to the Official Gazette website (www.gov.ph), to the PCDSPO website (www.pcdspo.gov.ph), and to the Presidential Museum and Library website (www.malacanang.gov.ph), causing our servers to momentarily lag.”

The denial-of-service attack started at around 4:00 p.m. today.

Lacierda said: “Information gathered through our data analysis indicated that the attack originated from IP addresses assigned to Chinese networks.”

“The PCDSPO is endeavoring to maintain its websites. However, please note that we can expect temporary disruption of service while the attack is ongoing,” he added.

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who's keeping score? ano na ba ang latest tally? China = 4, PHL = 9?

Fun

leofriends
April 23rd, 2012, 01:38 PM
r0II289X_-o

jpdm
April 23rd, 2012, 01:41 PM
^^ They'll have to be careful in dealing with the Philippines. We have always been wary of aggression by a foreign power and we've been through to those kinds of scenarios in the past. There's no way they'll beat us in Scarborough unless they use brute force but then again, it won't end well for them as it will for us.

They're good image have already been tarnished by their immature attitude and sheer arrogance in dealing with the Philippines.

The answer of China....


Paper says China should be ready for small-scale war with Phl


By Mike Frialde
(The Philippine Star)
Updated April 23, 2012


BEIJING – The mouthpiece of the Communist Party of China hinted that the ongoing naval standoff between the Philippines and China over Scarborough Shoal (Panatag Island) could drag on and that China should be ready for a small-scale war at sea with the Philippines.

China claimed that the shoal, known to them as Huanyan Island, is part of its national territory.

It added that the situation is further complicated by the forces led by the United States, which it said “seek to agitate hostility against China through the latest friction.”

“The dynamics surrounding the Huangyan Island crisis are complicated. The Philippines claims sovereignty over the shoal, whereas the US-led Western forces seek to agitate hostility… Countries like Vietnam and Japan, which have maritime territorial disputes with China, are also watching closely, trying to explore collective actions against this rising power,” it said.

The commentary also said that China does not see the dispute over the shoal as a simple contest of national strength between China and the Philippines.

“Otherwise, it would have been much easier to end the ongoing crisis. What China needs to do is much more than just safeguard Huangyan Island. It also needs to deal with external forces that may use the tension to disrupt China’s rise. At the moment, neither China nor the Philippines wants to appeal to arms,” it said.

“China knows that a swift fight with the Philippines will not help solve the dispute, whereas the Philippines could foresee a complete defeat if engaging in a war with China. Facing this complex dispute, China first needs cool-headedness. A hasty decision may cause more troubles. Addressing the South China Sea issue is set to be a long and arduous process. This is already a geopolitical reality that China faces,” it added.

“China should try to seize more initiative in this process, rather than being led by other regional players. China should be prepared to engage in a small-scale war at sea with the Philippines. Once the war erupts, China must take resolute action and deliver a clear message to the outside world that it does not want a war, but definitely has no fear of it,” it added.

“China needs to come up with all kinds of economic and political counter measures, so as to make sure that Manila suffers much more than it gains and the role it plays is not at all appealing to other Asian countries,” it said.

“China is already at the geo-economic center of Asia, but still appears passive geopolitically. It is impractical to make the two systems totally overlap at the moment, but China should prevent them from being poles apart. Cold treatment to Manila should last for a certain period. China needs to undertake losses from ensuing sanctions on Manila. Protecting islands in the South China Sea is not an empty slogan. It calls for our patience, costs and perseverance,” it added.

http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=799788&publicationSubCategoryId=63


The bully and its hawkish pirate mouthpieces are already plotting a sinister plan against a country they are bullying just to serve their greed and taste for more resources.:bash::bash:

CHINA YOU ARE BECOMING A WORLD CLASS STUPID LYING PIRATE!!!:bash::bash::bash:

kenken94
April 23rd, 2012, 01:44 PM
^^ stupidity and arrogance + great power = world catastrophe. :bash:

They only have 'great power' but they never have any sense of 'great responsibility'. :doh:

wolfram74
April 23rd, 2012, 01:48 PM
PH-China hacker wars may affect banks, telcos (http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/business/04/23/12/ph-china-hacker-wars-could-affect-banks-telcos)

MANILA, Philippines (UPDATE 1) – An IT expert on Monday said critical services relying on the Internet may suffer from the escalating tension between alleged computer hackers from China and the Philippines.

Ivan John Uy, former chairman of the defunct Commission on Information and Communication Technology (CICT), said critical services like banking and telecommunications may suffer in case the cyber war between alleged hackers from China and the Philippines continues.

“They (alleged Chinese hackers) can retaliate, and they can attack critical infrastructures, such as those of financial institutions, telecommunications facilities, ATM network,” Uy said.

:ohno::ohno:

jpdm
April 23rd, 2012, 01:54 PM
MASYADONG GARAPAL NA PIRATA ang Communist Party of China. Tarantadong maton. Yan ang magiging leader ng Asia-pacific century? Walang pinagkaiba sa masiba at sira ulong Imperial Japan under Emperor Hirohito.

Mukhang inilalabas ng China ang subconscious nya--yung angst nito dulot ng historical defeats nito against foreign aggressors sa kanya. Mukhang ibinabaling sa maliliit niyang kapitbahay sa Asia. Vietnam at Pinas ang puntirya.

Sigmund Freud, anu masasabi mo?toinks!:lol::lol:

jpdm
April 23rd, 2012, 01:55 PM
Buti na lang di natuloy yung ZTE-NBN deal. Umaalingasaw sa baho dahil sa tongpats at posibleng threat sa national security.

LuckyLady
April 23rd, 2012, 02:02 PM
di naman kasi kaya ng china maki pagdigmaan sa ka level nya na country. kaya pag practice an daw muna nya angp inas at vietnam :bash:

ang ulol sya pa tong magnanakaw, nahuliing nagnanakaw tapos may hiya pa na mag deklara ng gyera sa biniktima nya, kapal talaga!:bash:

LuckyLady
April 23rd, 2012, 02:03 PM
Buti na lang di natuloy yung ZTE-NBN deal. Umaalingasaw sa baho dahil sa tongpats at posibleng threat sa national security.

eh gagawa pa daw sila daan at kung anu anong infras sa palawan:lol: baka malaman na lang natin sa sunod kanila na pati palawan:lol:

wolfram74
April 23rd, 2012, 02:04 PM
the mood in this thread will turn from victorious, "ang galing ng pnoy hackers" chest-thumping to "we are being bullied" helpless victim mentality in 5, 4, 3, 2...

leofriends
April 23rd, 2012, 02:08 PM
Aquino: 3 PH vessels to stay in Scarborough as a 'show of flag'

23-Apr-12, 6:35 PM | Chichi Conde and Jaime Sinapit, InterAksyon.com

MANILA, Philippines - President Benigno Aquino III said Monday two Philippine vessels deployed to Panatag Shoal (Scarborough Shoal) will remain in the area as a ‘show of flag.’

"We say these are our waters so our vessels should be there," Aquino said.

Coast Guard vessel BRP Pampanga replaced BRP EDSA on Sunday at the site, just 124 nautical miles off Zambales province, where a standoff over fishing rights ensued April 10 and continues, with China sending more boats.

A vessel of the Bureau of Fisheries and Aquatic Resources (BFAR) was also deployed to Panatag Shoal Monday dawn.

China’s FLEC 310 just lurking?

Meanwhile, the maritime vessel marked FLEC 310 sent by China to boost its presence in Philippine territory has not been sighted so far at the Panatag Shoal. But the ship could just be keeping a distance somewhere near the disputed area to avoid detection, Northern Luzon Command (NOLCOM) chief Lt. Gen. Anthony Alcantara said Monday.

“We assume the ship (FLEC 310) was just hanging around somewhere near the shoal where it could not be sighted. Anyway, the situation there is stable, everything is normal,” Alcantara said.

The ship is the newest vessel China sent to the Philippine shoal since the April 10 standoff began between the Philippine Navy warship BRP Gregorio del Pilar and a Chinese maritime surveillance vessel---later, two, with bow numbers 71 and 84---that came to the rescue of eight Chinese fishing boats.

Alcantara said the Philippine Coast Guard’s (PCG) SARV 3 left the area Monday to refuel and resupply after the replenished SARV 2 arrived.

“We have another vessel that arrived in the area; the vessel is from the Bureau of Fisheries and Aquatic Resources (BFAR). I think it’s a marine control ship,” he said.

The China Marine Surveillance ship (71), together with two other unidentified fishing vessels believed to be from China, remained in the area.

Meanwhile, Defense Secretary Voltaire Gazmin said the government will not be scared by China’s bullying and insisted that the shoal is situated well within Philippine territory.

“The Philippines has an absolute and indisputable sovereignty over the Panatag Shoal; it has exercised effective occupation, jurisdiction and administration over the island and its maritime areas. We exercise Philippine sovereignty over the shoal and its surrounding maritime areas including the country’s exclusive economic zone (EEZ) with full accord and consistent with international law including the Unites Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS),” Gazmin said.

Gazmin confirmed the BRP Gregorio del Pilar, the biggest warship so far in the inventory of the Philippine Navy and acquired last year from the US Coast Guard, was ordered to stay put at Poro Point in La Union.

The ship together with a smaller British-made “Peacock” is under the command of Capt. Alberto Cruz.

The standoff at the shoal started when BRP del Pilar (former US Hamilton-class cutter) chased 8 vessels of Chinese poachers but was blocked by China’s two surveillance ships (71 and 84).

After the Philippine warship pulled out from the area to refuel, the 8 Chinese fishing vessels loaded with illegal catch such as giant clams, corals and different kinds of endangered marine species escaped from the area.

Diplomatic negotiations have barred the Philippine Navy, Coast Guard and BFAR from apprehending the Chinese poachers.

China has scored the current joint military exercises between the Armed Forces of the Philippine and the US, scheduled since last year, by issuing a warning that the exercises could heighten the risk of confrontation in the West Philippine Sea.

On the same weekend, however, China and Russia also launched their joint naval exercises at the Yellow Sea.

http://www.interaksyon.com/article/30134/aquino-3-ph-vessels-to-stay-in-scarborough-as-a-show-of-flag

LuckyLady
April 23rd, 2012, 02:10 PM
If the Philippines had maintained its No.2 spot to Japan and had the nuclear capabilities like Israel, I wouldnt really mind wiping North Korea off the face of the planet. It's another one of those useless pathetic sorry excuses for a State. It's brain dead people dont deserve to be in the same plane of existence as the rest of the civilised world.

Guess who's behind all this? And guess where the targets (plural) are gonna be at? The Philippines - from sea to shining sea.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/north-korea-vows-fresh-rocket-launches/story-e6frg6so-1226334339844


North Korea vows fresh rocket launches

AFP
April 20, 201212:51PM

NORTH Korea has vowed to launch satellites "one after another", vigorously rejecting international condemnation of an April 13 launch that was seen overseas as a disguised ballistic missile test.

The rocket, which Pyongyang said was intended to put a satellite into orbit, disintegrated some two minutes after blast-off. The UN Security Council strongly condemned the launch and said it would tighten existing sanctions.

In a statement today, the North said it has already completed an investigation into the cause of the failure. The data and experience gained would be "a reliable guarantee for greater success in the days ahead", it said.

"No matter how loudly the US and Japanese reactionaries and their followers may cry and no matter how frantically the Lee Myung-Bak group of rats may squeak, the DPRK's (North Korea's) satellites for peaceful purposes will be put into space one after another."

The North has criticised South Korea's conservative President Lee in extreme terms in recent months.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> read more

let Norkor keep on launching it's rocket missiles. by the way, how many does it have? baka araw arawin nila yan eh di madali ng maubos:lol:

LuckyLady
April 23rd, 2012, 02:12 PM
Aquino: 3 PH vessels to stay in Scarborough as a 'show of flag'

23-Apr-12, 6:35 PM | Chichi Conde and Jaime Sinapit, InterAksyon.com



http://www.interaksyon.com/article/30134/aquino-3-ph-vessels-to-stay-in-scarborough-as-a-show-of-flag

:okay: adn add more bancas please:lol:

leofriends
April 23rd, 2012, 02:13 PM
'World-class discovery' in Recto Bank, Philippine oil exploration company announces

23-Apr-12, 8:22 AM | Likha Cuevas-Miel, InterAksyon.com

ANILA, Philippines - Amid rising tensions between the Philippines and China over a section of the West Philippine Sea, a member of the private consortium exploring oil in the area said it may have made a "world-class discovery."

Officials of Atok-Big Wedge Co. told shareholders during its annual meeting that a report from experts commissioned to assess Service Contract (SC) 72 in Reed Bank has yielded a “world-class discovery.”

Walter Brown, Atok vice chairman, said the board met last week to assess the results of the seismic test at SC 72, also known as the Recto Bank, and they were “encouraged” by what they have seen from the report.

“The results were extremely favorable and we’re very optimistic about it,” Brown said, adding that based on their assessment, Atok has to defer other exploration projects, especially in Laos.

“We’re focusing now on oil and gas. It’s not difficult but you have to decide. But at this point we are much more interested in this prospect,” Brown said, referring to SC 72.

Atok is allotting P350 million for oil exploration and only a minuscule amount would go to mining, the official said.

The executive was not at liberty to disclose what the report contained only to say that it is a "world-class discovery.” Atok management has to wait until Forum Energy Plc discloses the information at the London Stock Exchange in the coming days.

“The results very much exceeded our expectations. We are very happy.” Roberto V. Ongpin, Atok chairman, told shareholders.

Brown said that there are several public companies involved in exploration activities in SC 72 and that Atok management does not want to preempt the others who have bigger stakes in the field that covers the Sampaguita prospect.

Atok has a 25.6-percent stake in Forum Energy, which owns 70 percent of the consortium that holds SC 72, with the rest owned by Monte Oro Resources & Energy Inc.

Forum Energy is majority owned by Philex Petroleum Corp, a unit of Philex Mining Corp. chaired by Manuel V. Pangilinan, who is also the chairman of TV5 and its online news portal InterAksyon.com.

Pangilinan had said the reserves in SC 72 could rival that of the Malampaya field.

Given signs that the prospect is economically viable, the consortium will start drilling by the end of the year. The question of whether to drill one well or a back-to-back well however remains on the table.

According to Atok officials and shareholders, the Swedes had drilled the area around Reed Bank in the late 1970s until the early 1980s, yielding some gas discoveries. This prospect was later abandoned for failing the test of economic viability.

However, the oil and gas exploration landscape has changed since, especially with the Malampaya field now producing the gas requirements of the Philippines, which is scrambling to build more power plants that use fuel other than coal and crude to stave off a power crisis, Brown said.

When asked if SC 72 contained oil, Brown said that as a geologist by profession, "there is probably a condensate. Geologically, there is a possibility of oil but not in the upper zone.”

According to a source at the Department of Energy, the “condensate” in a gas field is the liquid component, “or in layman’s terms, crude oil.”

To date, only the Galoc field within the vicinity of the Calamian Group of Islands in Northern Palawan produces oil in the Philippines.
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http://www.interaksyon.com/article/30083/world-class-discovery-in-recto-bank-philippine-oil-exploration-company-announces


Recto Bank natural gas reserves bigger than those in Malampaya -- DoE

23-Apr-12, 1:45 PM | Michelle Orosa, TV5

MANILA, Philippines - (UPDATE 7:02 PM) The Department of Energy on Monday confirmed that the natural gas reserves in Recto Bank are bigger than those in Malampaya.

The energy department's revelation came on the heels of remarks by a member of the private consortium exploring oil in the area that it may have made a "world-class discovery."

Officials of Atok-Big Wedge Co. had told shareholders during its annual meeting that a report from experts commissioned to assess Service Contract (SC) 72 in Reed Bank has yielded a “world-class discovery.”

According to Energy Undersecretary Jay Layug, it is very likely that the natural gas at Recto Bank exceeds the 2.7-trillion cubic feet in the Malampaya Natural Gas Field that has for years provided the country billions in revenue.

"We are hoping for equal, if not at least a bit higher natural gas from Sampaguita Field," Layug said Monday, referring to the area in Recto Bank where a consortium of three firms--- Forum Energy, Monte de Oro and Walter Brown---have been exploring.

The DoE said a new, substantial find in natural gas is important to the Philippines because the supply coming from Malampaya is estimated to run out by 2024.

Malampaya now supplies 40 percent of power to provide electricity to Luzon. Of the 2.7-trillion cubic feet of reserves in the field off Palawan, an estimated 1.2-trillion cubic feet of natgas has been used.

Recto Bank is ours, period

Meanwhile, Layug stressed that Philippine ownership of Recto Bank is beyond dispute, considering it is only 70 nautical miles west of Palawan, nearly twice as close to the mainland than Scarborough (Panatag) Shoal off Zambales province, and parts of the Spratly island chain. China insists on claiming both Recto Bank and Panatag Shoal, even though both are within the Philippines’s 200-mile exclusive economic zone. A stand-off over fishing rights that began April 10 is still ongoing at Panatag.

As for Recto Bank, Layug said Monday, "Hindi na dapat issue yan. As far as the Philippines is concerned, Recto Bank is ours," sabi ni Layug.

The government started exploring for natural gas at Recto Bank since the 1980's but since there was no market yet for natgas, it gave to the Forum Energy-led consortium the service contract for SC 72. The bidding for the rights to explore was part of a series of contracting rounds set by the Aquino administration in order to encourage energy investments, diversify the country’s energy supply base and maximize economic benefits from the natural resources.

http://www.interaksyon.com/article/30110/recto-bank-natural-gas-reserves-bigger-than-those-in-malampaya----doe

LuckyLady
April 23rd, 2012, 02:17 PM
^^eh di lalong amg lalaway ang tsikom nyan:lol:

Mercato
April 23rd, 2012, 02:19 PM
let Norkor keep on launching it's rocket missiles. by the way, how many does it have? baka araw arawin nila yan eh di madali ng maubos:lol:oo nga no? :lol: :lol: you gotta point there....

canta muna me ... Qi Lai! Bu yuan zuo nu li de ren men! :D :D

Mercato
April 23rd, 2012, 02:28 PM
'World-class discovery' in Recto Bank, Philippine oil exploration company announces

23-Apr-12, 8:22 AM | Likha Cuevas-Miel, InterAksyon.com


http://www.interaksyon.com/article/30083/world-class-discovery-in-recto-bank-philippine-oil-exploration-company-announces


Recto Bank natural gas reserves bigger than those in Malampaya -- DoE

23-Apr-12, 1:45 PM | Michelle Orosa, TV5



http://www.interaksyon.com/article/30110/recto-bank-natural-gas-reserves-bigger-than-those-in-malampaya----doeThey gotta point there, too. ;) :lol: :lol:

This is from the Harvard Int'l Review. Whoever possesses 17.7 billion tonnes of oil and natural gas reserves (world's 4th largest) is gonna be one helluva rich mothafcuka. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Although the total area of the islands does not exceed ten square kilometres, the Spratly Islands’ geostrategic and economic significance are invaluable. Linking the Pacific and Indian Oceans, the South China Sea sees passage of nearly 50 percent of global merchant traffic and 80 percent of crude oil transports en route to Japan, South Korea, and Taiwan. Securing sovereignty over the Spratly Islands equates to direct control over some of the world’s most important sea-lanes. Furthermore, the islands are set amid some of the world’s most productive fishing grounds and may prove to be rich in undersea oil and gas resources. The exact size of the deposits is not yet known, but according to a frequently cited estimate by China’s Geology and Mineral Resources Ministry, the region around the Spratly Islands holds oil and natural gas reserves of approximately 17.7 billion tons. If this figure is correct, the area would form the fourth largest reserve bed in the world. While most of the reserves are currently not exploitable due to their position beneath the oceanic crust in sedimentary beds, few doubt that the necessary technology will be available in the near future.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> read more

http://hir.harvard.edu/the-spratly-islands-dispute-order-building-on-china-s-terms

wolfram74
April 23rd, 2012, 02:34 PM
PHL: hack a few websites, replacing them with a poorly crafted webpage with ugly graphics and vulgar text (but good music)

China: divert 15% of the whole world's Internet traffic through its servers, thereby scaring many governments


Report: Chinese company 'hijacked' U.S. web traffic (http://articles.cnn.com/2010-11-17/us/websites.chinese.servers_1_web-traffic-china-telecom-security-review-commission?_s=PM:US)
CNN
November 17, 2010

Internet traffic from several U.S. government agency sites was briefly diverted through servers in China in April, congressional investigators reported Wednesday.

For 18 minutes, about 15 percent of all web traffic was redirected through China, :shocked: including traffic to and from the sites of the U.S. Army, Navy, Marine Corps, Air Force, the office of the Secretary of Defense, the Senate and NASA, according to a report delivered to Congress by the U.S.-China Economic and Security Review Commission.

Investigators say the web traffic was diverted by China Telecom, a state-owned enterprise.

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no comparison...baka bigla nalang mawalan ng Internet ang buong Pilipinas, kung hindi man buong Asean :naughty:

amigo32
April 23rd, 2012, 02:35 PM
kaya pala pursigido mga tsekwa:lol:

M46Fr3D
April 23rd, 2012, 02:47 PM
Palace websites attacked by ‘Chinese networks' (http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/04/23/12/palace-websites-attacked-%E2%80%98chinese-networks)

MANILA, Philippines (UPDATED) - The dispute between China and the Philippines over Scarborough Shoal continued to spill over into cyberspace with Philippine government websites being attacked by “Chinese networks" on Monday.

In a statement, Presidential Spokesperson Edwin Lacierda said: “the Presidential Communications Development and Strategic Planning Office (PCDSPO) noticed a significant spike in traffic with malicious URL requests from forged user-agents being channeled to the Official Gazette website (www.gov.ph (http://www.gov.ph)), to the PCDSPO website (www.pcdspo.gov.ph (http://www.pcdspo.gov.ph)), and to the Presidential Museum and Library website (www.malacanang.gov.ph (http://www.malacanang.gov.ph)), causing our servers to momentarily lag.”

The denial-of-service attack started at around 4:00 p.m. today.

Lacierda said: “Information gathered through our data analysis indicated that the attack originated from IP addresses assigned to Chinese networks.”

“The PCDSPO is endeavoring to maintain its websites. However, please note that we can expect temporary disruption of service while the attack is ongoing,” he added.

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who's keeping score? ano na ba ang latest tally? China = 4, PHL = 9?

Fun

Oh, congrats to the admin of that site. :) For me, when they are starting to attack you by DOS, that means they are having a hard time owning your webservers. China is good at that as they have a very large fleet of bots. I just hope that the admin already deployed counter measures.

leofriends
April 23rd, 2012, 03:04 PM
^^ hindi na nila basta basta mababasag ang malacanang.. natuto na yan sa mga panahong nagdaan.. sigurado mas natututo pa sila sa ginawa ng stinky chinese.. sige pa chinese mang hack lang kayo..

Nanflexal
April 23rd, 2012, 03:08 PM
. I just hope that the admin already deployed counter measures.

by deploying one (1) corrupt congressman or senator to counter the attack.

gmaer
April 23rd, 2012, 03:10 PM
Buti pa si marcos nun may mga top secret military R&D... Yun mga sumunod bng presidente sa tingin nyo may top secret ptoject din kya sa AFP ntin???

Meron! Housing projects for ordinary soldiers while mansions for generals and admirals.

bawal na rin ba kumain ng siopao, siomai, pancit, lumpia? :lol:

I think Siomai is Japanese? :)

Boycott Walmart :lol:

Kahit Costco, ang daming made in China :lol:

Why Walmart (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walmart) and Costco (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Costco)? They are not made in China...

Wal-Mart Stores, Inc., branded as Walmart since 2008 and Wal-Mart before then, is an American multinational retailer corporation that runs chains of large discount department stores and warehouse stores. The company is the world's 18th largest public corporation, according to the Forbes Global 2000 list, and the largest public corporation when ranked by revenue. It is also the biggest private employer in the world with over 2 million employees, and is the largest retailer in the world. Walmart remains a family-owned business, where the company is controlled by the Walton family which owns 48% stake in Wal-Mart.

Costco Wholesale Corporation (NASDAQ: COST) is the largest membership warehouse club chain in the United States. As of July 2011 it was the sixth largest retailer in the United States, and the seventh largest retailer in the world.

Yre
April 23rd, 2012, 03:12 PM
<snip>
....
China: divert 15% of the whole world's Internet traffic through its servers, thereby scaring many governments

Report: Chinese company 'hijacked' U.S. web traffic (http://articles.cnn.com/2010-11-17/us/websites.chinese.servers_1_web-traffic-china-telecom-security-review-commission?_s=PM:US)
....
<snip>


And as an addendum to you guys...


FBI warns hundreds of thousands may lose Internet access by July

The FBI has warned that hundreds of thousands of Internet users across the world may lose access to the Internet by July in the aftermath of a hacker's scam that infected their computers with malicious software.
....
July 9 is the deadline for Internet users with infected computers to visit the website (http://www.dcwg.org/)and learn how to clean their computers. After July 9, all infected computers will not be able to connect to Internet.

Read more: http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/323468#ixzz1srvVrpco


Sorry if this was already posted but just a heads up. Baka kasi mag akala kayo inatake na computers ninyo this coming July...

Nabartek
April 23rd, 2012, 03:14 PM
Ihack man natin o hindi ang sites sa china, it doesnt matter. They will still hack us. The way to go here is apply bureacracy. No transactions online, just info.

The difference between the us and the philippines

Yung isa dya , masyadong apologist sa china dahil di nya feel si noynoy.. Eh yung nakaraan kay noynoy halos ibenta na tayo...

Nabartek
April 23rd, 2012, 03:15 PM
Meron! Housing projects for ordinary soldiers while mansions for generals and admirals.



I think Siomai is Japanese? :)



Why Walmart (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walmart) and Costco (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Costco)? They are not made in China...

Sio mai is chinese. Chinese dumpling. Baka sushi nasa isip mo?

Walmart and Costco carry a lot of Made in China goods, esp the former. I live in an area where there is Walmart and Costco. At with Costco masdiverse product nila, may made in the Philippines, India, Jordan, Vietnam... Sa Walmart halos lahat made in China

wolfram74
April 23rd, 2012, 03:21 PM
Ihack man natin o hindi ang sites sa china, it doesnt matter. They will still hack us. The way to go here is apply bureacracy. No transactions online, just info.

The difference between the us and the philippines

Yung isa dya , masyadong apologist sa china dahil di nya feel si noynoy.. Eh yung nakaraan kay noynoy halos ibenta na tayo...

di mo ba nabalitaan yung plano ni noynoy na mag-joint exploration sa Spratlys ang PHL at China?

so ano na ngayon ang pinagkaiba ni noynoy kay GMA? :naughty::naughty::naughty::naughty::naughty:

d7beast
April 23rd, 2012, 03:22 PM
wala tayong laban militarily with the commies, but over the cyberspace, malaki chance natin na one day, a filipino hacker can plant a code into the PLA servers and detonate all their nukes!!!

Nabartek
April 23rd, 2012, 03:25 PM
di mo ba nabalitaan yung plano ni noynoy na mag-joint exploration sa Spratlys ang PHL at China?

so ano na ngayon ang pinagkaiba ni noynoy kay GMA? :naughty::naughty::naughty::naughty::naughty:

May inomit ka ata dun... Sabi ni noynoy AFTER THE SPRATLYS ISSUE IS RESOLVED.

gmaer
April 23rd, 2012, 03:25 PM
Here's the link (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20111221/as-philippines-us/). That news then was posted by Philippine aviation blog because the deal will be updated this coming April 30.

I knew it will just be another blog source just like the rumored T-50 soft loan from South Korea to the Philippines which is not true because it wasn't reported on any credible news sources! The link (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20111221/as-philippines-us/) that you provided did not even say that it will be the C/D model because if the PAF will be getting it from the US mothballed fleet then there will be no C/D models there only the older A/B models, the C/D model is just another FANTASY. And Did you notice the comments on the blog that reported that it will be the C/D model?

F-16's fighter jets plan acquisition updates ...

http://philippineairspace.blogspot.com/2012/04/paf-seeks-12-f-16-fighter-jets-from-us.html

What's the source of this blog post, unless it's something credible then this is just another gossip?

Taken from PDFF (http://pdff.sytes.net/index.php?showtopic=2396&st=240)

Balikatan photos

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0gV95s82GC6ob/610x.jpg



Using the standard M-16 rifle is too long for CQB tactics.

wolfram74
April 23rd, 2012, 03:30 PM
May inomit ka ata dun... Sabi ni noynoy AFTER THE SPRATLYS ISSUE IS RESOLVED.

that was just a few days ago, when the Scarborough Shoal issue escalated. pero, one year ago, go go go si penoy henyo sa joint exploration. :naughty:

Nabartek
April 23rd, 2012, 03:41 PM
^^ at least he had the guts to reverse that decision...

Si tongresswoman Gloria ... No say sa intensified intrusion...

Busy pala nangongolecta ng tong

If ate glow was in his position, tiyak na binenta na nya.

That death penalty of ofws was blessing in disguise

wolfram74
April 23rd, 2012, 03:53 PM
^^ at least he had the guts to reverse that decision...

Si tongresswoman Gloria ... No say sa intensified intrusion...

Busy pala nangongolecta ng tong

If ate glow was in his position, tiyak na binenta na nya.

That death penalty of ofws was blessing in disguise


ngayon lang naman sa admin ni penoy henyo nagkaroon ng intensified intrusion.

friends kaya natin ang China nung panahon ni Madam GMA. naging bitter lang ang China lately. masyado yatang affected sa ngiting aso ni penoy nung bus hostage crisis. :lol:

sa mga bitter anti-Chinese dito...pwede ba, bago kayo magpatuloy sa inyong racist rants against the Chinese, pakisauli nyo muna ang milyon milyong dolyar na aid na binigay nila sa atin? wag masyadong mayabang kung nanlilimos lang naman


http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/photo/2007-01/15/xin_30010415223763724088227.jpg

FRIENDS :):):cheers::cheers:


ngayon, atat na atat ang mga Tsino na tayo'y bombahin. i wonder why...

http://www.chinahush.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/20100826buskilling02.jpg

gmaer
April 23rd, 2012, 03:55 PM
it's actually a CH-46 Sea Knight. the Chinook is only in service with the US Army.

The CH-47 Chinook helicopter is also in service with 19 other countries' military.

:okay: adn add more bancas please:lol:

To provide sea food for the sailors so they don't have to return to port just to get food, BRILLIANT IDEA!

Sio mai is chinese. Chinese dumpling. Baka sushi nasa isip mo?

Walmart and Costco carry a lot of Made in China goods, esp the former. I live in an area where there is Walmart and Costco. At with Costco masdiverse product nila, may made in the Philippines, India, Jordan, Vietnam... Sa Walmart halos lahat made in China

Then don't ban the store, ban only the Chinese products! You don't want Uncle Sam to get mad at us and Juan Dela Cruz lose his job?

Nabartek
April 23rd, 2012, 03:59 PM
^^ i never said about banning. I indeed am definitely not buying made in china even if the subs in more expensivr

Please dont twist things, k?

M46Fr3D
April 23rd, 2012, 04:01 PM
ngayon lang naman sa admin ni penoy henyo nagkaroon ng intensified intrusion.

friends kaya natin ang China nung panahon ni Madam GMA. naging bitter lang ang China lately. masyado yatang affected sa ngiting aso ni penoy nung bus hostage crisis. :lol:

sa mga bitter anti-Chinese dito...pwede ba, bago kayo magpatuloy sa inyong racist rants against the Chinese, pakisauli nyo muna ang milyon milyong dolyar na aid na binigay nila sa atin? wag masyadong mayabang kung nanlilimos lang naman

:angel:

Tongresswoman Gloria Macapagal Arroyo, isauli mo na raw. Pakikolekta na rin yung naiabot sa mga kasama mo. Yung kay Angie, siguro kolektahin mo na lang pag nagkita kayo.

xxxriainxxx
April 23rd, 2012, 04:02 PM
What a way to earn pogi points for Panot, ang mga antiPanot, suporta na ngayon sa kanya. :lol:

Nabartek
April 23rd, 2012, 04:02 PM
ngayon lang naman sa admin ni penoy henyo nagkaroon ng intensified intrusion.

friends kaya natin ang China nung panahon ni Madam GMA. naging bitter lang ang China lately. masyado yatang affected sa ngiting aso ni penoy nung bus hostage crisis. :lol:

sa mga bitter anti-Chinese dito...pwede ba, bago kayo magpatuloy sa inyong racist rants against the Chinese, pakisauli nyo muna ang milyon milyong dolyar na aid na binigay nila sa atin? wag masyadong mayabang kung nanlilimos lang naman


http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/photo/2007-01/15/xin_30010415223763724088227.jpg

FRIENDS :):):cheers::cheers:


ngayon, atat na atat ang mga Tsino na tayo'y bombahin. :ohno:


Friends "kuno"

No it wasnt the hostage crisis that irked china. After the ofe death sentence, noynoy made a firm stand in the spratlys. That was close to one year from the hostage crisis

You might want to read what wikileaks has to say

Kaya nangigigil ang china kasi di na tayo pumapayag sa pressures nila. Same with Vietnam

leofriends
April 23rd, 2012, 04:03 PM
^^ FRIENDS ba kamo? oh com on!!?? what are you saying!!?? di mo ba alam nung pumunta yung chinese surveilance ship sa Scarborough inisnub ni GMA?? tama ba yun?? diba isang malinaw na paglabag yun sa UNCLOS!!! ang sabihin mo ipinagbili ng GMA admin ang Scarborough sa China!!! kaya malakas ang loob nilang magintrude dahil sa kasunduan na ginawa ng pesteng GMA na yan!!!

LuckyLady
April 23rd, 2012, 04:08 PM
ngayon lang naman sa admin ni penoy henyo nagkaroon ng intensified intrusion.

friends kaya natin ang China nung panahon ni Madam GMA. naging bitter lang ang China lately. masyado yatang affected sa ngiting aso ni penoy nung bus hostage crisis. :lol:

sa mga bitter anti-Chinese dito...pwede ba, bago kayo magpatuloy sa inyong racist rants against the Chinese, pakisauli nyo muna ang milyon milyong dolyar na aid na binigay nila sa atin? wag masyadong mayabang kung nanlilimos lang naman


http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/photo/2007-01/15/xin_30010415223763724088227.jpg

FRIENDS :):):cheers::cheers:


ngayon, atat na atat ang mga Tsino na tayo'y bombahin. i wonder why...

http://www.chinahush.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/20100826buskilling02.jpg

sabihin mo yan kay Arroyo at sa mga kurakot sa gobyerno? sino ba nakinabang nyan?

hayaan mo na mag bomba sila, ok lang mamatay basta palaban keysa mamatay ka na parang walang bayag:lol:

M46Fr3D
April 23rd, 2012, 04:12 PM
^^mukhang namalengke si manang GMA ng makapal na ginto ah. Mukha tuloy syang alahera. Made in China kaya yan o aid from China?

LuckyLady
April 23rd, 2012, 04:13 PM
What a way to earn pogi points for Panot, ang mga antiPanot, suporta na ngayon sa kanya. :lol:

hindi naman soguro sumusuporta lang sa kapakanan ng ating bansa sa spratlys at panatag. thanks to istupido tsina!

Nabartek
April 23rd, 2012, 04:14 PM
May stockholm syndrome sta si wolfram :lol:

LuckyLady
April 23rd, 2012, 04:16 PM
The CH-47 Chinook helicopter is also in service with 19 other countries' military.



To provide sea food for the sailors so they don't have to return to port just to get food, BRILLIANT IDEA!



Then don't ban the store, ban only the Chinese products! You don't want Uncle Sam to get mad at us and Juan Dela Cruz lose his job?


actually it's not my original idea here, it's JDPM, Nabartek, etc.. and you added more spice so it's now a brilliant idea. ganyan sana ang mga pinoy, nag iisa, nagtutulungan mag isip para sa bayan natin. :okay:

leofriends
April 23rd, 2012, 04:18 PM
ngayon lang naman sa admin ni penoy henyo nagkaroon ng intensified intrusion.

friends kaya natin ang China nung panahon ni Madam GMA. naging bitter lang ang China lately. masyado yatang affected sa ngiting aso ni penoy nung bus hostage crisis. :lol:

sa mga bitter anti-Chinese dito...pwede ba, bago kayo magpatuloy sa inyong racist rants against the Chinese, pakisauli nyo muna ang milyon milyong dolyar na aid na binigay nila sa atin? wag masyadong mayabang kung nanlilimos lang naman


Arroyo’s New Baseline is a Sellout to China :ohno:

22 February 2009 2 Comments

The Communist Party of the Philippines (CPP) today slammed the 2009 Baseline Bill, saying that it kowtows to the demands of the Chinese government for the Philippines to surrender its claim of sovereignty over the Kalayaan Islands (Spratly Islands, in international nomenclature) and nearby Scarborough Shoals. The bill was approved Wednesday by the Senate and House of Representatives and will soon be signed into law by Arroyo.

“This is nothing but a sellout to China in exchange for the largesse that Gloria and Mike Arroyo have been receiving from corrupt Chinese bureaucrats and big compradors,” said the CPP. “Since Gloria Arroyo began entering into numerous anomalous deals with Chinese officials and corporations, she has been pressing for the outright elimination of the Kalayaan Islands and Scarborough Shoals from the Philippine baseline in order to give way to the claim of the Chinese government of sovereignty over the islands.”

While formally maintaining “territorial jurisdiction” over the Kalayaan Islands and Scarborough Shoals, the new baseline bill decisively downgrades the Philippine claim of sovereignty over these through their recategorization as a “regime of islands.”

The recategorization, supposedly in recognition of claims by other countries, upsets the old baseline bill that was passed into law as Republic Act 3046 (in 1961) amended by Republic Act 5446 (in 1968) and which includes all areas covered by the archipelagic theory, the surrounding 200-nautical mile exclusive economic zone and all other areas covered by international treaties since 1898 and presently under the jurisdiction of the Philippines. The old national baseline includes the Spratly Islands, which are only 25 kilometers from the southern tip of Palawan and currently under the jurisdiction of the provincial government of Palawan and garrisoned and occupied by Philippine military forces.

Interest in the Spratlys was heightened after the first major Philippine natural gas discovery in 1976 occurred within the scope of the islands, which now accounts for 15% of all petroleum consumed in the country. The Spratlys, a cluster of islands, shoals, islets, cays and reefs at the edge of the South China Sea, and their surrounding waters harbor rich mineral and oil reserves and other natural resources.

With the recategorization of the areas as a “regime of islands,” albeit supposedly “under Philippine sovereignty”, the Philippine government has surrendered its exclusive claim over the group of islands and its waters, thus decisively weakening the Philippine claim. In response, China has reiterated its absolute and exclusive claim to the islands. Despite the watering down of the Philippine claim, the Chinese government has formally objected to the wording of the new Philippine baseline bill which still posits a token claim of national sovereignty over the islands.

Aside from the Philippines and China, Vietnam, Malaysia and Brunei are also claiming ownership over the Kalayaan Islands in part or in whole. “The new baseline bill is the pound of Philippine flesh that the Arroyos are paying back to big Chinese bureacrats and corporations in exchange for the millions of dollars in bribe monies Gloria and Mike Arroyo have accumulated from highly overpriced government contracts, including the anomalous NBN-ZTE deal, North Rail and South rail projects, Cyber-education projects, Mount Diwalwal mining deal and other bribery and corruption-ridden deals with Chinese corporations,” the CPP stated.

The CPP said further that “The Joint Marine Seismic Undertaking (JMSU) which Arroyo signed with Chinese officials in 2004 was a particularly heinous act of national treachery. The deal allowed China to undertake exclusive seismic exploration and data acquisition in and around the Spratlys, resulting in the Philippines’ loss of valuable pieces of information regarding the natural wealth in the disputed area.” After the study was completed by the end of 2005, China’s Geology and Mineral Resources Ministry had estimated that the Spratlys area holds oil and natural gas reserves of 17.7 billion tons, much bigger than the oil reserves of Kuwait, which has the fourth biggest oil reserves in the world. “None of this information has been shared with the Philippines,” said the CPP.

http://www.pinoypress.net/2009/02/22/arroyos-new-baseline-is-a-sellout-to-china-cpp/

wolfram74
April 23rd, 2012, 04:18 PM
Arroyo to sign Spratly Islands bill despite protest from China (http://www.intellasia.net/news/articles/china/111258607.shtml)

RP-China tension looms as baselines bill set for signing (http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/149541/news/nation/rp-china-tension-looms-as-baselines-bill-set-for-signing)

RP risks war with China on Spratlys baseline bill (http://www.timawa.net/forum/index.php?topic=12454.0;wap2)

Arroyo signs baselines bill into law (http://globalnation.inquirer.net/news/breakingnews/view/20090311-193508/Arroyo-signs-baselines-bill-into-law)

:applause::applause::applause:

i love GMA :cheers:

wolfram74
April 23rd, 2012, 04:20 PM
PLEASE LANG, PWEDE PONG GAMITIN ANG UTAK.. SALAMAT...

Arroyo’s New Baseline is a Sellout to China :ohno:

22 February 2009 2 Comments



http://www.pinoypress.net/2009/02/22/arroyos-new-baseline-is-a-sellout-to-china-cpp/


wow, CPP-NPA. what a reliable source! :lol::lol::lol::lol:

leofriends
April 23rd, 2012, 04:24 PM
Arroyo to sign Spratly Islands bill despite protest from China (http://www.intellasia.net/news/articles/china/111258607.shtml)

RP-China tension looms as baselines bill set for signing (http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/149541/news/nation/rp-china-tension-looms-as-baselines-bill-set-for-signing)

RP risks war with China on Spratlys baseline bill (http://www.timawa.net/forum/index.php?topic=12454.0;wap2)

Arroyo signs baselines bill into law (http://globalnation.inquirer.net/news/breakingnews/view/20090311-193508/Arroyo-signs-baselines-bill-into-law)

:applause::applause::applause:

i love GMA :cheers:

COMMODORE REEF AND ALL OTHER ATOLLS, REEFS, AND SHOALS IN OUR KALAYAAN ISLANDS GROUP AND SPRATLY GROUP IS OUTSIDE OF OUR NEW BASELINE LAW - R.A. 9522. WHICH IS SINGED BY F***G GMA!!!

Commodore Reef not in Philippines's Archipelagic Baseline Law

KLS: After initial inspection carried out by KLS, it is sure that the Philippine Archipelagic Baseline Law or RA 9522 doesn’t cover Commodore Reef which occupied by Malaysia now.

President of Philippines signed the Philippine Archipelagic Baseline Law on March 10th, but was protested by China, Taiwan, and Vietnam as these three governments viewed Philippines has infringed their sovereignty over Spratly Islands. Malaysia did not make protest probably because of they knew that the baseline law doesn’t include Commodore Reef.

Malaysia has occupied five island and reefs, namely Swallow Reef, Commodore Reef, Ardasier Reef, Marivales Reef, Investigator Reef and Erica Reef.

The exact coordinate for Commodore Reef is latitude 8° 22' and longitude 115° 13', while the farthest baseline to west is longitude 116° 53', it therefore doesn’t include Commodore Reef.


http://www.klsreview.com/HTML/2009Jan_Jun/20090320_02.html

http://i962.photobucket.com/albums/ae105/kerenskyalex/baseline4-long116-53-1.jpg
http://i962.photobucket.com/albums/ae105/kerenskyalex/baseline4-long116-53-1.jpg

Nabartek
April 23rd, 2012, 04:24 PM
^^ wala naman magagawa si gma since pasado na yan sa senado eh... She can veto it pero delaying tactic lag yun :lol:

hugodiekonig
April 23rd, 2012, 04:25 PM
Kaya pala narito uli sa Poro Point, La Union (my hometown) ang largest warship natin



http://www.interaksyon.com/assets/images/scarborough.jpg

Aquino: 3 PH vessels to stay in Scarborough as a 'show of flag'
23-Apr-12, 6:35 PM | Chichi Conde and Jaime Sinapit, InterAksyon.com
http://www.interaksyon.com/assets/images/articles/interphoto_1314092531.jpg
President Aquino is seen in file photo, along with Navy chief Alexander Pama, touring the BRP Gregorio del Pilar when it was acquired last year. The Del Pilar is on standby in Poro point, while Coast Guard and BFAR vessels remain at Panatag Shoal, as a "show of flag," in the President's words.

MANILA, Philippines - President Benigno Aquino III said Monday two Philippine vessels deployed to Panatag Shoal (Scarborough Shoal) will remain in the area as a ‘show of flag.’

"We say these are our waters so our vessels should be there," Aquino said.

Coast Guard vessel BRP Pampanga replaced BRP EDSA on Sunday at the site, just 124 nautical miles off Zambales province, where a standoff over fishing rights ensued April 10 and continues, with China sending more boats.

A vessel of the Bureau of Fisheries and Aquatic Resources (BFAR) was also deployed to Panatag Shoal Monday dawn.

China’s FLEC 310 just lurking?

Meanwhile, the maritime vessel marked FLEC 310 sent by China to boost its presence in Philippine territory has not been sighted so far at the Panatag Shoal. But the ship could just be keeping a distance somewhere near the disputed area to avoid detection, Northern Luzon Command (NOLCOM) chief Lt. Gen. Anthony Alcantara said Monday.

“We assume the ship (FLEC 310) was just hanging around somewhere near the shoal where it could not be sighted. Anyway, the situation there is stable, everything is normal,” Alcantara said.

read more at source (http://www.interaksyon.com/article/30134/aquino-3-ph-vessels-to-stay-in-scarborough-as-a-show-of-flag)

leofriends
April 23rd, 2012, 04:25 PM
Void new baselines law, urge constitutional law experts

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/154980/news/nation/void-new-baselines-law-urge-constitutional-law-experts

TESSA JAMANDRE, VERA Files March 31, 2009 6:01pm

International law and constitutional law experts are set to ask the Supreme Court on Wednesday to nullify the three-week-old Archipelagic Baselines Law, barely a month before the May 13 deadline for the Philippine government to submit to the United Nations its claim over its extended continental shelf under the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea.

Saying Repubic Act No. 9522 “dismembers a portion of the territory of the Philippines, in violation of the Constitution," University of the Philippines law professors Merlin Magallona and Harry Roque, their students in constitutional law and public international law, and Anakbayan party-list Rep. Risa Hontiveros will also ask the High Tribunal to stop the government from registering and depositing with the UN Secretary General a copy of the law signed by President Arroyo on March 10.

The petitioners said the government should be prevented from depositing the law with the UN because, once deposited, “it becomes immediately binding on the Philippines under international law, and its subsequent constitutional invalidation by (the Supreme Court) cannot anymore undo the irreparable harm."

R.A. 9522 redrew the country’s baselines to comply with the UNCLOS requirements for an “archipelagic state," in the process excluding the disputed Kalayaan Island Group (KIG) and Scarborough Shoal from the main archipelago and classifying them instead of “regimes of islands." The limits of Philippine territory defined in the law will determine the country’s extended continental shelf, which is believed to contain substantial amounts of oil, natural gas, minerals and polymetals.

The 70-page petition to be filed in the Supreme Court named Executive Secretary Eduardo Ermita, Foreign Affairs Secretary Alberto Romulo, Budget Secretary Rolando Andaya, National Mapping and Resource Information Authority Administrator Diony Ventura and Philippine Permanent Representative to the UN, Ambassador Hilario Davide Jr., as respondents. Davide is supposed to deposit R.A. 9522 and the country’s claim over its extended continental shelf with the UN.

The Department of Foreign Affairs’ Center for Maritime and Ocean Affairs (CMOA) has not responded to VERA Files’ request for a comment.

Magallona, Roque, Hontiveros and their co-petitioners said the new law deprives the country of what has been established in historical, legal and scientific terms as part and parcel of its national territory.

The petitioners cited, among others, the controversial 1898 Treaty of Paris, which, they said, delineated “a well-defined area of national territory" of the Philippines when it was ceded by Spain to the United States.

They added that the 1900 Treaty of Washington between Spain and the United States included Cagayan, Sulu and Sibutu in Philippine territory, while the 1930 convention between Great Britain and the United States defined the boundary between the Philippines and Northern Borneo.

A mere statutory act—R.A. 9522 in this case—cannot remake a constitutional definition of the national territory, provided in the 1935, 1973 and 1987 Constitutions, according to the petitioners.

Roque also said the scope and breadth of the country’s territory predated the UNCLOS. “How dare Mrs. Arroyo give away this territory to the detriment of the Filipino people," he said.

The petitioners argued that the UNCLOS does not compel the Philippines to categorize itself as an archipelagic state or to draw the baselines for such a state on or before May 13 this year. The May 13 deadline pertains only to the submission of the extended continental shelf, which, they said, can be drawn from the established baselines.

An archipelagic state under the UNCLOS makes use of the straight baselines method to delineate the national territory. This entails drawing straight lines connecting the outermost points of the outermost islands following the general contour of the archipelago.

The petitioners said, however, R.A. 9522 “radically revised" the definition of the Philippine archipelago under the Treaty of Paris. “The result is a roughly triangular delineation which excludes large areas of waters within the 600 miles by 1,200 miles rectangle enclosing the ‘Philippine archipelago’ as defined in the Treaty of Paris," they said.

“Hence, R.A. 9522 constitutes a drastic reduction of Philippine territory and a treasonous surrender of Philippine sovereignty, which is incomprehensible given that the Treaty of Paris has been consistently incorporated in all of our organic charters from the 1935 Constitution up to the present 1987 Constitution," the petitioners said.

Magallona, an expert on the UNCLOS who has argued before the International Court of Justice twice, was quoted in the petition as saying that by declaring the KIG and Scarborough Shoal as regimes of islands, the country has lost 15,000 square nautical miles of territorial waters. Under UNCLOS, a regime of islands consists of islands or naturally formed areas of land surrounded by water that remain above water during high tide.

“By surrendering the above-mentioned territorial waters through the passage of R.A. 9522 excluding the KIG and Scarborough Shoal from the baseline, the State has reneged on its constitutional duty to protect our exclusive marine wealth and the offshore fishing grounds of our subsistence fishermen," the petitioners said.

R.A. 9522 weakened the country’s claim not only over KIG but also over Sabah, they added.

The KIG is part of the disputed Spratlys chain of islands in the South China Sea being claimed in part by the Philippines, Malaysia, Taiwan and Brunei and in whole by Vietnam and China. The Philippines officially staked its claim over the KIG in 1978 through President Decree 1596, which declared it a distinct and separate town of Palawan.

The passage of R.A. 9522 has been the subject of diplomatic protests from China and also prompted the Chinese to send patrols to the disputed area last month.

The Philippines and Malaysia, meanwhile, have conflicting claims over Sabah in northern Borneo. The Sultan of Brunei ceded Sabah to the Sultanate of Sulu, which in turn leased it to the British North Borneo Company in 1878. The Malaysian claim is based on a perpetual lease. The Philippines formally asserted that Sabah was part of its territory in 1962 based on the claims of the heirs of the Sultanate of Sulu, who had ceded proprietary rights over Sabah to the Philippines. The Sabah issue has been shelved for the sake of peaceful co-existence between the two countries.

The petitioners said R.A. 9522 was also unconstitutional because it converted the country’s internal waters into archipelagic waters. This means that the waters inside the baselines between islands are no longer internal waters over which the Philippines has full and exclusive sovereignty.

In effect, the law gave foreign vessels the right to innocent passage over the Philippine internal waters and, worse, the right of the aircraft of other states to make overflights in Philippine airspace in violation of the Constitution, according to the petitioners.

“Since the Philippines will have to allow foreign ships of all kinds to navigate in Philippine waters—including nuclear-powered submarines, nuclear-powered warships and other ships carrying weapons-grade nuclear substances, this clearly violates our Constitution’s nuclear-weapons free policy," they said.

The petitioners also recalled that when the Philippines signed the UNCLOS on Dec. 10, 1982, it explicitly expressed that “the convention shall not be construed as amending in any manner any pertinent laws and presidential decrees or proclamations of the Republic of the Philippines." The government declared at the time that it was maintaining and reserving its “right and authority" to amend these according to the Philippine Constitution.

“R.A. 9522 forever closes the door to any Philippine efforts to obtain the acceptance by the international community of our constitutionally-defined national territory," the petition said. “R.A. 9522 abandons, or at the very least, severely weakens, any and all claims we have or may have over territories as defined by our Constitution."

Magallona, Roque, Hontiveros and their co-petitioners described their petition against the baselines law as among the most important cases to be decided by the Supreme Court.

“What is at stake is national territory and resources which is the only hope for the Filipinos to recover from the quagmire brought about by corruption and misfeasance of government. It goes into the very identity of the Filipino people insofar as territory is an element of statehood," Roque said.

(VERA Files is put out by veteran journalists taking a deeper look into current issues. Vera is Latin for “true.")

leofriends
April 23rd, 2012, 04:30 PM
Arroyo signs baselines bill into law

http://www.mb.com.ph/node/198552

President Arroyo has signed the baselines bill into law to reaffirm the Philippines' territory and establish a basis for its economic and jurisdictional claims over nearby areas like the Spratly Islands, as provided by the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS).

Executive Secretary Eduardo Ermita said Wednesday Mrs. Arroyo signed the baselines bill into Republic Act No. 9522, despite the opposition from China which claims "indisputable sovereignty" over the Spratly Islands.

Ermita said the new baselines law will become the basis from which the Philippines' exclusive economic zone (EEZ) and extended continental shelf (ECS), which UNCLOS established in 1982 for archipelagic countries, would be drawn.

EEZ extends 200 nautical miles from an archipelago's baselines, while ECS extends 350 nautical miles from the baselines. A nautical mile is equal to 1.852 of a kilometer, or a little longer than a mile.

The baselines bill establishes 101 basepoints around the Philippine archipelago which are connected by straight lines to form the Philippine baselines.

Center for Maritime and Ocean Affairs Secretary General Henry Bensulto explained that the basepoints consists of the outermost points of the outermost islands of the Philippines' main archipelago.

The Spratly Islands, however, are not included in the islands enclosed by the Philippine archipelagic baselines, and are instead treated as "regime of islands" under Philippine control. WTF? ARROYO?

Bensulto likened the status of the Spratly Islands as regime of islands to the relationship of Hawaii to the mainland United States, in which Hawaii is not part of the baselines of the US, but remains to be a territory of the US.

He said the baselines law defines the Philippine archipelagic territory according to UNCLOS' geological definition of an archipelago--that an archipelago is a compact grouping of islands.

Ermita said the Spratly Islands are not enclosed in the new Philippine baselines, but remain to be under Philippine territory by virtue of a presidential decree issued by former President Ferdinand Marcos, and the 1987 Constitution which speaks of the Philippine territory as the main archipelago and other islands that surround it over which it exercises jurisdiction.

Ermita said the exclusion of the Spratly Islands in the new baselines does not diminish the Philippines' claims over it, but instead establishes the Philippines' economic and jurisdictional claims as provided under UNCLOS.

Ermita said the Philippines could not claim the 200-nautical mile EEZ and the 350-nautical mile ECS without establishing a baseline that is compliant with UNCLOS.

Mrs. Arroyo signed the baselines bill into law last March 10, just a day before new Chinese ambassador Liu Jianchao was scheduled to present his credentials as new ambassador to the Philippines.

Ermita said the signing of the bill into law reaffirms Philippine sovereignty and national interest among its neighbors, and sends a signal that contestations to the Philippines' claim over territory should be settled according to the Declaration of the Code of Conduct in the South China Sea which was signed by the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) and China.

wolfram74
April 23rd, 2012, 04:34 PM
O ETO NAHIYA NAMAN AKO KAY WOLFRAM SA GMA NA KO KUMUHA.. :lol:

Void new baselines law, urge constitutional law experts

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/154980/news/nation/void-new-baselines-law-urge-constitutional-law-experts

TESSA JAMANDRE, VERA Files March 31, 2009 6:01pm



marunong ka bang umintindi ng post? tingnan mo yung isang link ko dun. Galing sa GMA. :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

leofriends
April 23rd, 2012, 04:36 PM
Commodore Reef not in Philippines's Archipelagic Baseline Law:ohno:

KLS: After initial inspection carried out by KLS, it is sure that the Philippine Archipelagic Baseline Law or RA 9522 doesn’t cover Commodore Reef which occupied by Malaysia now.

President of Philippines signed the Philippine Archipelagic Baseline Law on March 10th, but was protested by China, Taiwan, and Vietnam as these three governments viewed Philippines has infringed their sovereignty over Spratly Islands. Malaysia did not make protest probably because of they knew that the baseline law doesn’t include Commodore Reef.

Malaysia has occupied five island and reefs, namely Swallow Reef, Commodore Reef, Ardasier Reef, Marivales Reef, Investigator Reef and Erica Reef.

The exact coordinate for Commodore Reef is latitude 8° 22' and longitude 115° 13', while the farthest baseline to west is longitude 116° 53', it therefore doesn’t include Commodore Reef.

However, Philippines’ Presidential Decree 1596 is still extending their Exclusive Economic Zone claim on Commodore Reef. It is believed that Philippines will utilize the baseline law to make their EEZ and continental shelf claim.

http://www.klsreview.com/HTML/2009Jan_Jun/20090320_02.html

wolfram74
April 23rd, 2012, 04:38 PM
O ETO LEOFRIENDS, SA GMA RIN GALING ITO...:lol::lol:

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/255090/opinion/a-thick-or-thin-solution-to-panatag-shoal-dispute

Our new baselines law, Republic Act 9522, classifies Panatag (Scarborough) Shoal as a regime of islands under Art. 121 of the Law of the Sea Convention (LOSC). Under LOSC, a regime of islands has its own territorial sea, Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ) and Continental Shelf.

Obviously, RA 9522 assumes that the shoal is part of Philippine territory in the fullest sense of the term. From that perspective, the reckoning point therefore is the shoal as an island grafted into Philippine territory.


Thank you GMA :applause:

wolfram74
April 23rd, 2012, 04:40 PM
Commodore Reef not in Philippines's Archipelagic Baseline Law:ohno:



akala ko ba Scarborough Shoal ang issue natin dito....bakit Commodore Reef ang drama mo dyan? LOL

leofriends
April 23rd, 2012, 04:41 PM
dp

hugodiekonig
April 23rd, 2012, 04:41 PM
labas muna ako :lurker:

Nabartek
April 23rd, 2012, 04:42 PM
^^ the issue here is not limited to scarborough but our eez

Since nabanggit mo na rin ang scarborough, bat parang wala kang opinion na inaangkin ng chins yan DESPITE the phils trying to get it to unclos and itlos?

wolfram74
April 23rd, 2012, 04:43 PM
ARROYO LAW UPHOLDS CLAIM ON SPRATLYS - SC (http://www.newsflash.org/2004/02/hl/hl111047.htm)

MANILA, AUGUST 19, 2011 (STANDARD) by Rey Requejo - The Supreme Court on Tuesday affirmed the constitutionality of Republic Act 9522 or the Baselines Law signed by then President Gloria Macapagal–Arroyo in 2009, saying that the Philippine archipelago as defined in the Constitution remains the same under RA 9522.

In a unanimous en banc decision, the court dismissed for lack of merit the petition filed by international law experts Merlin Magallona and Harry Roque Jr. who sought to block RA 9522 on the ground that it would weaken the country’s claim over the Spratly group of islands including Kalayaan.

Chief Justice Renato Corona disclosed that the court was unanimous in saying that RA 9522 did not violate or revise the definition of the Philippine archipelago under the constitution.

The en banc ruling, penned by Senior Justice Antonio Carpio, rejected the contention of Magallona and Roque, who are both professors of UP College of Law, that the law had radically revised the definition of the Philippine archipelago, resulting in the loss of at least 15,000 square nautical miles of territorial waters.

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Thank you GMA :applause:

M46Fr3D
April 23rd, 2012, 04:49 PM
i dont want to be beaten with experience. watchmode na muna ako. :) hahhha.

wolfram74
April 23rd, 2012, 04:49 PM
di ka talaga marunong umintindi:lol: alam mo ba yung present na sitwasyon??:lol: kala mo ba sumusunod ang CHINA sa mga EXCLUSIVE ECONOMIC ZONE ng UNCLOS??? kung sumusunod lang sana sila!! kaso hindi eh!! thank you GMA!!!

naks, ang galing mag divert ng issue. akala ko ba mali yung baselines law ni Arroyo...ngayon naman, sinasabi mo - regardless, hindi pa rin sinusunod ng China yun.

next topic na ba tayo? LOL...nabigla ako dun ah

leofriends
April 23rd, 2012, 04:52 PM
naks, ang galing mag divert ng issue. akala ko ba mali yung baselines law ni Arroyo...ngayon naman, sinasabi mo - regardless, hindi pa rin sinusunod ng China yun.

next topic na ba tayo? LOL...nabigla ako dun ah

LOL, wala na kasi tayong masyadong judisriction sa Excllusive Economic Zone, sana naintindihan mo un... kaya hindi yan susundin ng Chikoms.. kaya lahat gagawin nila dyan..

hindi kasi yung EEZ lang lagi.. dapat ginawa nya official title.. hindi EEZ walang kwenta yon..

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/2488/402xzonmarensvg.png
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/2488/402xzonmarensvg.png

wolfram74
April 23rd, 2012, 05:00 PM
so ano ang "brilliant plan" ni penoy henyo? increase the tension in the area? provoke military action from China? involve the US and other Asean countries (the more, the merrier)? tutal nakabili na naman tayo ng "bagong" toy, este warship :lol:

ang daming war freaks sa SSC

mabuti pa't ipagpatuloy nyo nalang ang paglaro nyo dyan ng mga kina-aadikan nyo na computer games...wag dalhin sa tunay na buhay ang gore/violence ng inyong virtual death fests...

leofriends
April 23rd, 2012, 05:04 PM
^^ sakin ba yan? LOL.. stop praising the politicians.. because even GMA and Penoy wala naman silang mabuting nagawa.. wala kang aasahan sarili mo lang!

leofriends
April 23rd, 2012, 05:22 PM
kala ko ba di tayo takot...:nuts:

Aquino warns ASEAN on China's encroachment

23-Apr-12, 9:22 PM | Agence France-Presse

MANILA - Philippine President Benigno Aquino warned his country's neighbours Monday they should fear Beijing's growing aggressiveness over its claims in the South China Sea.:nuts:

Aquino stressed China's territorial claims spanned a huge area and were getting "closer and closer" to the Philippine archipelago.

"They claim this entire body of water practically. Look at what is excluded and what they are claiming," Aquino told reporters as he pointed to a map of the area. "So how can the others not be fearful of what is transpiring?"

Aquino's comments came shortly after his government said it would raise an increasingly tense dispute with China over the Scarborough Shoal at a high-level bilateral meeting with the US next week.

Manila and Beijing have been locked in a standoff over Scarborough, a group of islands in the South China Sea, since Chinese vessels blocked Philippine attempts to arrest eight Chinese fishing boats' crews earlier this month.

Aquino said Scarborough was within the Philippines' internationally recognised exclusive economic zone and questioned China's historical basis for its claims.

"It's like (their claims) are getting closer and closer" to shore, he said.

The shoal is about 230 kilometers from the Philippines' main island of Luzon, while the nearest Chinese land mass is Hainan province 1,200 kilometres to the northwest, according to Philippine naval maps.

With China ratcheting up the pressure, Manila said earlier Monday the Scarborough issue would be formally raised in talks between Foreign Secretary Alberto del Rosario and Defence Secretary Voltaire Gazmin and their US counterparts Hillary Clinton and Leon Panetta in Washington next week.

The two nations are bound by a mutual defence pact in which the United States has pledged to come to the aid of its weaker ally if it faces military aggression.

Manila's move could further anger China, which has insisted the United States should have no role in the dispute.

China claims almost the entire South China Sea and is also locked in disputes with Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) countries Brunei, Malaysia and Vietnam, as well as its rival Taiwan.

But China said late Monday that it had withdrawn two ships from the disputed area on Sunday, leaving only one vessel for maritime surveillance, China's official Xinhua news agency reported.

It quoted a spokesman for the Chinese Embassy in the Philippines, Zhang Hua, as saying Beijing was trying to reduce tensions.

"China is ready to settle this incident through friendly diplomatic consultations," Zhang said.

The Philippines had earlier called on ASEAN countries to take a common stand against Beijing over the South China Sea, a call that has caused differences within the bloc fearful of antagonising the region's most powerful nation.

The Global Times, a newspaper run by China's ruling Communist Party, warned in an editorial at the weekend of a potential "small-scale war" to end the Scarborough Shoal standoff.

"Once the war erupts, China must take resolute action to deliver a clear message to the outside world it does not want a war, but definitely has no fear of it," the editorial said.

http://www.interaksyon.com/article/30138/aquino-warns-asean-on-chinas-encroachment