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leofriends

May 31st, 2012, 04:02 PM

tara! magplastikan na lang tayo!!:nuts::nuts::nuts:

Beijing welcomes PH ambassador to China

Published : Tuesday, May 29, 2012 00:00
Article Views : 179
Written by : XINHUA

BEIJING: China on Monday welcomed the appointment of career diplomat Sonia Brady as Manila’s new envoy to Beijing, saying that she should assume her post quickly.

“We [ask] the Philippine government to send the ambassador [Brady] to Beijing as soon as possible, and we believe that it will help strengthen communications between both sides through diplomatic channels,” Chinese Foreign Ministery spokesman Liu Weimin told a regular press briefing.

President Benigno Aquino 3rd picked Brady as the country’s ambassador to China over the weekend after the powerful Commission on Appointments refused to approve his first choice, Chinese-Filipino businessman Domingo Lee, citing his inexperience.

The 70-year-old veteran diplomat first served in the Philippine embassy as third secretary and vice consul, and later as second secretary and consul, from 1976 to 1978.

Before serving as Philippine ambassador to China from April 2006 to January 2010, she was envoy to Thailand from 2002 to 2003 and to Myanmar from 1995 to 1999.

Brady had also been Deputy Chief of Mission to Indonesia from 1994 to 1995 and to Thailand from 1992 to 1994.

Tense relations
Brady’s reappointment came as relations between Manila and Beijing worsened after Chinese ships blocked the warship BRP Gregorio del Pilar and other Philippine vessels from arresting Chinese fishermen at the Panatag (Scarborough) Shoal in the West Philippine Sea (South China Sea) in early April.

Both countries have deployed vessels near the disputed shoal for more than a month to press their conflicting claims to the area.

China claims the shoal, along with most of the West Philippine Sea and even up to the coasts of its Asian neighbors, while the Philippines claims the shoal as well within its 200-nautical-mile exclusive economic zone.

Since then, China has impounded Philippine fruit shipments and warned tourists against visiting the Philippines, while Manila has charged that Beijing is sending even more ships to the shoal.

With reports from Camille Lopez and AFP

http://www.manilatimes.net/index.php/news/top-stories/23827-beijing-welcomes-ph-ambassador-to-china

kenken94

May 31st, 2012, 04:08 PM

^^ Di nila alam, mas magiling sa plastikan tayong mga Filipino. Tingnan niyo, panahon ni pandak sobrang BFF ang turing sa China pero ngayon nag-iba ata ihip ng hangin. :lol:

Yey! Nasa Defense Thread na ako! Di kasi tumatambay dito sina Wolfram at mga kasapi ng Philippine 'Nega' ANBU Ops kaya di na-didisruot ang flow of discussion dito. Maliban nalang sa mga komunistang alagad ng chekwa na bumibisita dito paminsan-minsan. Intelligence gathering ata ginagawa.:D :lol: :nuts:

M46Fr3D

May 31st, 2012, 04:11 PM

Well, if China wants the US to respect its interest, CHina must respect ours too

But then, i think china only knows one way respect:lol:

The word "MUTUAL" has long been deleted in their vocabulary.

TheAvenger

May 31st, 2012, 04:15 PM

Tingnan mo yung kasunod mong komunista. kunwari pa.:lol:

I hope the Chicoms are not doing this to our officials-:uh:

Who am I kidding. Mga AFP pa.

I wish you will not involve socialist or communist in the chinese hegemonism in Asia as they will do it even if they were capitalist and friends of U.S.A.

Pls note that China's 9 dash line claiming almost 80 percent of South China Sea was first issued by China in 1947 when China is not even controlled by your communist enemy.

Pls note also that the first Christian community in Israel followed Socialism/communist form of society and Jesus Christ is the first socialist / communist in the world.

kenken94

May 31st, 2012, 04:28 PM

^^ You cannot take out the obvious differences in ideologies that fuel the dispute. China is still trapped in a Cold War way view of the world in the midst of a democratic world. They 'will' push for their ideologies on whatever circumstances they find right to do so. Their interest intertwines with their ideology, we may not like it but we are compelled to accept the reality that China is driven by its communist ideals despite its economy being liberal as opposed to the 'Centrally Planned Economies' for socialist/communist regimes.

TheAvenger

May 31st, 2012, 04:49 PM

^^ You cannot take out the obvious differences in ideologies that fuel the dispute. China is still trapped in a Cold War way view of the world in the midst of a democratic world. They 'will' push for their ideologies on whatever circumstances they find right to do so. Their interest intertwines with their ideology, we mryay not like it but we are compelled to accept the reality that China is driven by its communist ideals despite its economy being liberal as opposed to the 'Centrally Planned Economies' for socialist/communist regimes.

to engage in claiming or fighting other nations to annex some of their islands or territory is not communist ideology, that is imperialism. so China is a neo-Imperialist country.

Lilyr

May 31st, 2012, 04:51 PM

I wish you will not involve socialist or communist in the chinese hegemonism in Asia as they will do it even if they were capitalist and friends of U.S.A.

Pls note that China's 9 dash line claiming almost 80 percent of South China Sea was first issued by China in 1947 when China is not even controlled by your communist enemy.

Pls note also that the first Christian community in Israel followed Socialism/communist form of society and Jesus Christ is the first socialist / communist in the world.

Hay naku excuses para sa mga Komunism. Depensado pagdating sa Komunista. Hmm... I'v been here before? Now moving on...

kenken94

May 31st, 2012, 04:56 PM

Beam Magnum

May 31st, 2012, 05:01 PM

Chinese "Idol girls"

http://i446.photobucket.com/albums/qq190/iheartsmileykid/20091212_snsdcopy_2.jpg

http://s15.postimage.org/gvu7fp7nv/Must_Not_Fap.jpg (http://postimage.org/)

Those chinese girls are Traps. Hnng must resist.

TheAvenger

May 31st, 2012, 05:07 PM

^^ That has been what the Soviet Union has been doing since their joint invasion of Poland with Germany in 1939. And now China is also doing the same with its String of Pearls strategy. I agree that China is imperialist in most sense with its expansionist attitude in dealing with other nations.

Still again, ideological differences are also underlying factors on why the Philippines and China cannot find common ground. We also blame them for supporting the CCP which has done so much disturbance to this country and so in this circumstance, it adds fuel to the fire that is insinuated by the dispute.

In my view the CCP/NDF led by Sison (and BAYAN, KMU, Gabriela, etc) were already irrelevant after many people even their own members and sympathizers found them unpatriotic and not nationalistic as they were either silent of China's aggressions or they support China. I prefer and shall move to Akbayan.

Beam Magnum

May 31st, 2012, 05:10 PM

More Chinese ships seen in Scarborough

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/global-filipino/world/05/31/12/more-chinese-ships-seen-scarborough

Eto naman sila sana bumagyo ng yelo ulit sa China.

Arvor

May 31st, 2012, 05:15 PM

The difference that I see is that the US did not sabotage Britain to replace her, while the Middle Kingdom is sabotaging the US in subtle ways, as well as US allies

Actually the US did sabotage Britain and some of it's other European allies, just before ww2 thanks to the depression colonial empires begun to shut down their markets and created closed economic systems, the US did not like this and up until ww2 the US and the British empire were seen as likely to be heading for war indeed the US had drawn up the colour coded warplans including an invasion of Canada .

One of the US demands in return for "loaning" Britain ressources for the war was that Britain should start considering to dismantle it's empire after the war, and after ww2 of course the US did alot to preassure European empires to decolonise, one grave instance of betrayal was the 1956 Suez Crisis when the French along with Israel devised a plan and invited Britain to join and take the Suez canal from Nasser who had just privatised it .

From a military point of view it was a success the Israeli's captured territory which was the pretext for the British and French forces to invade and it was a success as Britsh and French aircraft carriers and bases in the region sent jets and paratroops the Egyptian military was crushed, but the US got scared when the USSR made threats and blackmailed the UK which was still recovering from the damage it suffered from ww2 by witholding loans and funds to Britain forcing it to withdraw .

The French of course were furious at both the US betrayal and Britains caving in to US preassure, this is where the saying "Suez moment" was coined meaning the moment when the British empire was finally humbled by the US by taking leadership and in the following years Britain would acquiese to US policies and slowly dismantle it's empire .

As ive said the French were furious and this incident was the basis for the modern uneasy relationship between the US/UK alliance and France which unlike Britain held on to more colonies and territories, and altho they too gave African colonies independence they kept a close shadow government behind the scenes called "Françafrique" maintaining bases and forces in western Africa and to this day the French intervenes in those countries deposing non pliant regimes in coups etc .

The Suez crisis was also one of the catalysts for the creation of the EU France was deterfmined not only to defy the US by maintaining colonies it decided to keep an independent global foreign policy, first it embraced the Germans into a close alliance which is the basis for the whole European Union basically the French supported European integration in part as a means to balance US power .

This was also the time when the French decided to end the Algerian war and shift their foreign policy away from being Israel's 2nd patron to being more arab friendly, it is after this period in time that the US replaced France as Israels main ally, this is also why France decided to create it's own nuclear weapons and deterrence system in the process helping Israel to create it's nuclear capability explaining how Israel got the bomb and why the Israeli forces had lots of Mirages in their air force inventory .

Ive just pointed out what two instances here of how the US sabotaged it's allies but i can go on with examples like say the way the US supported Indonesia vs the Netherlands, the US put great preassure on the Netherlands to stop it's reconquest of Indonesia and especially during the incidents that led to the Indonesian occupation of "West Papua" which was supposed to become a seperate and independent country but this a whole new other story so ill stop here .

Suez was also a defining crisis because like the US under Bush Britains prime minister at the time created the war based on a lie and subsequently leading to economic woes and decline for Britain this led the saying to be used to describe the US and it's war in Iraq as being America's "Suez moment" .

Anyway what's past is past and im just explaining history and how some things came to be today of course they are all still allies and relations have advanced and improved since then .

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They lack 'maturity' as compared to Mother America. Mas mabuti pa'ng EU nalang ang pumalit sa US kaysa sa China. Total, a united Europe will become a new superpower entity with equal military and economic strength as the United States itself.

Europeans mentality has changed alot since the colonial empire era today their societies are quite prosperous and comfortable, democratic and places a high premium on social justice the rule of law and human right's, internationalism and a support for global institutions for global governance .

Europe is also at peace with no hostile powers capable of threatening it and it's low peacetime defence spending is greater than any other powers with the exception of it's close US allies and most of the rest of the world are either it's allies aswell or close trading partners, so given these circumstances both of a benign regional security environment and a benign business oriented mindset it would be hard for the EU to justify higher defence spendings and an agressive hegemonic foreign policy at least not primarily based on military might and the use of force .

The world has also been globalised based primarily on European and western culture and norms, the world now uses western calendars and not Arab or Chinese or Mayan and the world uses GMT to determine time while imperial or metric systems have become the worlds standards weight and measurement system, most of the world also speaks European languages from English to Spanish or French vast swathes of the Earth speak at least one of them and of course the worlds economic financial and banking systems are also based on their systems and controlled by the west and it goes on etc .

Europe is basically quite comfortable where it is having no serious enemies it is prosperous it recieves all the ressources it wants and needs the status quo is thus just fine, the EU is also really more focused on it's own backyard at the moment EU expansion into yet unincorporated parts of Europe Africa the middle east and central Asia aswell as overseas territories, it currently has little military interests in the Asia Pacific region with the exception of French territories in the south Pacific and has signed a "non use of force treaty" against asean countries .

But it's not a bad thing as this partition of areas of responsibility allows the US to move their focus away from Europe and elsewhere and refocus it's relatively declined power in maintaining peace and stability in the Asia Pacific region where it's focused or concentrated weight and power can remain formidable, in any case the EU can always provide decisive forces in case of a conflict in East Asia should the US and it's allies in the region need it but at present even Japans military alone is a match for China, furthermore if the Recto bank ressources are developed the Phillippines itself can be a formidable power against China in the region complimenting Japan, South Korea, Taiwan and of course the US and others in their ability to limit Chinese mischief .

Maxxclip

May 31st, 2012, 05:28 PM

leofriends

May 31st, 2012, 05:32 PM

US rejects China’s supremacy over South China Sea issue
by Michelle Chun and Zakiah Koya

The United States (US) government does not support China's call for one-on-one discussions to resolve the growing South China Sea conflicts, Senators John McCain and Joseph Lieberman said.

"It's been a bedrock principle of American foreign policy to protect the freedom of the seas and maritime security.

We respectfully disagree with the assertion that China has made of sovereignty over most of the South China Sea," he told the press today."

theSundaily (http://www.thesundaily.my/news/394891)

:banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:

PH ECONOMY GROWS UNEXPECTEDLY BY 6.4% AND THIS NEWS...

SSC MADE MY DAY...:nuts:

TheAvenger

May 31st, 2012, 06:04 PM

31-May-12, 5:59 PM | Jaime Sinapit, InterAksyon.com

MANILA, Philippines - Philippine authorities are not discounting the possibility that the continued Chinese presence on Panatag Shoal could be a prelude to putting up markers or structures to boost China’s claim over the area, sources in the military said Thursday.

The sources spoke on condition of anonymity because a gag order has been in effect on defense and military officials, who are barred from providing media with updates on the standoff that began April 10 in the shoal standoff.

“We will wake up one day and see markers or small structures already planted inside or outside the lagoon to boost their claim of the maritime area. That’s why we’re closely monitoring their activities. We’ve two ships there but they might not detect all the time the activities of the Chinese especially during night,” a ranking military official said.

Pls read more at :

http://www.interaksyon.com/article/33470/military-monitors-chinese-activities-on-panatag-shoal

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What actions we can do when we learned later that the Chinese already constructed a military fort on that shoal ?

Of course we must do another Peoples Power and overthrow these d----- ----------
so that we can established a more patriotic and nationalistic government that will fight China's neo-imperialism and hegemonism in Southeast Asia.

Arvor

May 31st, 2012, 06:10 PM

US rejects China’s supremacy over South China Sea issue
by Michelle Chun and Zakiah Koya

The United States (US) government does not support China's call for one-on-one discussions to resolve the growing South China Sea conflicts, Senators John McCain and Joseph Lieberman said.

"It's been a bedrock principle of American foreign policy to protect the freedom of the seas and maritime security.

We respectfully disagree with the assertion that China has made of sovereignty over most of the South China Sea," he told the press today."

Lol the Chinese sometimes uses these small spats for PR reasons to show it's people that it is strong and to create a sense of loyalty through nationalism and because sometimes these claims aren't challenged they start to believe their own PR that China is a superpower, so they really hate it when their claims are dismissed especially when it comes from powerfull countries like the US bursting their bubble, pahiya sila lol this is so funny .

Christian_123

May 31st, 2012, 06:31 PM

Beam Magnum

May 31st, 2012, 06:50 PM

Any news about the Italian Lupo class?

kenken94

May 31st, 2012, 06:51 PM

^^ Tingnan nga natin anong reaction ng mga chekwa dito. hmm. :lol: :D

Nabartek

May 31st, 2012, 06:55 PM

^^ Tingnan nga natin anong reaction ng mga chekwa dito. hmm. :lol: :D

Respect their interest daw. :lol:

On the other hand.... 11 days to go before June 12...kelan ba sila magfifile sa ITLOS?

Filing in the ITLOS may not prevent China from forceful takeover but it at least gives us stronger credibility

Nabartek

May 31st, 2012, 07:02 PM

In my view the CCP/NDF led by Sison (and BAYAN, KMU, Gabriela, etc) were already irrelevant after many people even their own members and sympathizers found them unpatriotic and not nationalistic as they were either silent of China's aggressions or they support China. I prefer and shall move to Akbayan.

The CPP and its branches has been irrelevant since Cory came to power. That's when they started to disintegrate and "liquidated" factions that attempted to reconcile with the government. Prime example is Father Balweg. The sad thing here is that it is believe that it was his brother who killed him

Beam Magnum

May 31st, 2012, 07:03 PM

Nabartek

May 31st, 2012, 07:08 PM

Nabartek

May 31st, 2012, 07:09 PM

Papa Sugar is become bolder in the WPS sea ha. Dati pa peaceful peaceful resolve lang sya..ngayon nagpaparamdam na talaga.

Inaapi kasi yung baby damulag :lol:

kenken94

May 31st, 2012, 07:15 PM

^^ At saka pang media blitz din yan. Pampabango nga imahe ng America kasi nag-iimplement ng international law at di pinababayaan ang treaty ally na orphan din pala. :lol: :nuts:

Nabartek

May 31st, 2012, 07:18 PM

^^ At saka pang media blitz din yan. Pampabango nga imahe ng America kasi nag-iimplement ng international law at di pinababayaan ang treaty ally na orphan din pala. :lol: :nuts:

Kelan kaya gagamit ng pabango din mga instik? :lol:

kenken94

May 31st, 2012, 07:22 PM

Nabartek

May 31st, 2012, 07:25 PM

^^ kahit lie low gaga pa rin sila.

pero infairness, parang bumnait tono nila kay papa "please respect our interest na" hindi yung "wag kang makialam!" :lol:

kenken94

May 31st, 2012, 07:35 PM

^^ Kasi mini-mimic sila ng Russia noon kaya ang tapang magsalita. Nanahimik din kasi ang Bolsheviks ngayon kaya si Mama America naman ang magsasalita ng maanghang. Di ko inexpect na sasali sila sa PR offensive ng Pinas.

Kasi nung dumaong yung stealth sub sa Subic napagtanto ko na na bantay-salakay lang pala si Mama America ta's si anak naman ang bahala sa PR at diplomatic offensive sa China, sasali din pala siya. Pero mabuti na yun, at least straight from the tormentor's mouth.

Assurance din yan sa atin na hindi tayo maiiwan sa ere.

Lilyr

May 31st, 2012, 07:40 PM

Papa Sugar is become bolder in the WPS sea ha. Dati pa peaceful peaceful resolve lang sya..ngayon nagpaparamdam na talaga.

Inaapi kasi yung baby damulag :lol:

Bondying talaga yung damulag na yan:lol::lol::lol:
Parang yung pinsan ko. Galit kay Mama ngayon bukas mangiyak-ngiyak
sa paghingi ng baon.:lol::lol:

Nabartek

May 31st, 2012, 07:41 PM

Askal82

May 31st, 2012, 07:42 PM

^^ Yung mga article na nagsasabing Pilipinas ang nag-iinstigate ng gulo, China wants to resolve the dispute peacefully, respect their claim kuno. Alam no naman na kakatapos lang nung mga OA na anti-Philippines articles kaya nag-la-lie-low ngayon kasi napulot ata ng international media kagagahan nila. :D :lol:

Sila pa rin ang bully. Halata masyado. Huwag na silang magambisyon dahil hindi sila kasing pino ni Papa Sugar pagdating jan. Garapal masyado. :lol:

Lilyr

May 31st, 2012, 07:53 PM

I was thinking, baka takot si Papa na bibigay uli ang baby damulag. Kaya nya
sinabi na ayaw nya ng one-on-one discussions.
Remember GMA's regime? Parang nagtatampo si Papa nuon.

Nabartek

May 31st, 2012, 08:01 PM

I was thinking, baka takot si Papa na bibigay uli ang baby damulag. Kaya nya
sinabi na ayaw nya ng one-on-one discussions.
Remember GMA's regime? Parang nagtatampo si Papa nuon.

Puede din. Baka ayaw nya maagaw ng China yung damulag :lol:

Nabartek

May 31st, 2012, 08:28 PM

@Lilyr: I just emailed my reply to you. Message Max :(

kenken94

May 31st, 2012, 08:32 PM

Nakakatawa talaga yung sub na yun. although di new, usually di naman namemedia. pero biglang namedia. :lol:

Takot nila :lol:(Dumaan kaya sa shoal yun? :lol:)

Siguro. Di anamn siguro ganun ka 'coincidental' ang paglabas nung stealth sub at fishing ban ng China. :lol: :angel:

Hmm. I'm smelling something fishy. :nuts:
Sila pa rin ang bully. Halata masyado. Huwag na silang magambisyon dahil hindi sila kasing pino ni Papa Sugar pagdating jan. Garapal masyado. :lol:

They act with utter arrogance, it just shows how immature and inexperienced they are when it comes to international diplomacy compared to Mama America and her allies. :bash:

They may point the guns at us but we can kill them double-time with words. ;)

Puede din. Baka ayaw nya maagaw ng China yung damulag :lol:

Kaya nga confident ako na hindi nila tayo iiwanan sa ere ngayon. I trust the US more than any foreign country we have relations with. Simply because of shared values of democracy, people-to-people ties, historical relationship as colony and master and lastly the mutual trust built during the wars where the two nations fought along each other sharing the same peril. :) :cheers:

kenken94

May 31st, 2012, 08:37 PM

@Lilyr: I just emailed my reply to you. Message Max :(

Can't send via PM anymore, naabot ko na ang quota ko ngayon. LOL. :cry: :D :nuts: :lol: :cry:

Newbie pa naman ako. :lol:

@Lilyr: I can't reply to you via PM anymore, I've reached the quota for PMs today. :cry:

Nabartek

May 31st, 2012, 08:41 PM

^^lahat naman ata may quota.... :lol:

kenken94

May 31st, 2012, 08:43 PM

^^ Sayang kasi, ang ganda na sana nung discussion tas biglang lalabas na hindi na pwedeng mag-send ng PM dahil sa quota. :cry: :lol: :rofl:

Lilyr

May 31st, 2012, 08:47 PM

Can't send via PM anymore, naabot ko na ang quota ko ngayon. LOL. :cry: :D :nuts: :lol: :cry:

Newbie pa naman ako. :lol:

@Lilyr: I can't reply to you via PM anymore, I've reached the quota for PMs today. :cry:

Ask Nabs for the email addy if you want.Lol. Dapat may group emails tayo.:lol::lol:

kenken94

May 31st, 2012, 08:49 PM

Ask Nabs for the email addy if you want.Lol. Dapat may group emails tayo.:lol::lol:

What e-mail carrier do you use? Google?

Dapat nga or group discussion. :D :lol: :rofl:

s_w_stars

May 31st, 2012, 08:49 PM

I was thinking, baka takot si Papa na bibigay uli ang baby damulag. Kaya nya
sinabi na ayaw nya ng one-on-one discussions.
Remember GMA's regime? Parang nagtatampo si Papa nuon.

Right on. At first GMA was BFF to Bush, when she pulled out of Iraq to save the life of the OFW hostage, he dropped her like a hot potato. When China came calling, off she went. If I remember correctly, the US was definitely miffed.

Nabartek

May 31st, 2012, 08:49 PM

kaya nga email email nalang.pero paano ako magsesend ng PM? :lol:

Nabartek

May 31st, 2012, 08:52 PM

Right on. At first GMA was BFF to Bush, when she pulled out of Iraq to save the life of the OFW hostage, he dropped her like a hot potato. When China came calling, off she went. If I remember correctly, the US was definitely miffed.

ang pangit sa ginawa ni GMA when China came calling, nagnakaw sila ng hot potato sa atin at kasabwat si GMA sa pagsmuggle ng potato. Kaya ayan ang problema natin...ang China na mismo

Parang gulong lang, minsan nasa itaas, minsan nasa ibaba.

I think China seriously miscalculated though, esp when Noynoy came to the seat. Noynoy does not like the Chinese potato (kahit may lahing Chinese pa yan) :lol: Now it will be up to China to repair the friendship. Sila lang naman yung sigaw ng sigaw diplomatically with their war rhetoric :lol:

Kaya yan, labidabs ulit with Papa :lol:

Lilyr

May 31st, 2012, 08:59 PM

What e-mail carrier do you use? Google?

Dapat nga or group discussion. :D :lol: :rofl:

I only use hotmail. Private kasi yung isa.

Right on. At first GMA was BFF to Bush, when she pulled out of Iraq to save the life of the OFW hostage, he dropped her like a hot potato. When China came calling, off she went. If I remember correctly, the US was definitely miffed.

Natatawa ko dun sa circle na yan. If I remember nagsumbong pa si Papa Ajinomoto na galit si Papa Sugar sa atin dahil sweet sweet kay Papa Chang. Insult to Injury after Iraq:lol:

Parang adventures ng 3 men and a Baby :lol::lol::lol:(considering all 3 are technically Papas who are feeding dede aid to the Baby Damulag)

kaya nga email email nalang.pero paano ako magsesend ng PM? :lol:

Iwanan mo sya ng message na lang sa prof nya. Pwede ba yun? Lol.

kenken94

May 31st, 2012, 09:02 PM

kaya nga email email nalang.pero paano ako magsesend ng PM? :lol:

pwede daw as visitor message. :lol: delete ko nalang pagatapos. :D

Nabartek

May 31st, 2012, 09:02 PM

^^ Marami ata tayong papa.

baka si papa Kim ang susunod na makkiki-Papa :lol:

Nabartek

May 31st, 2012, 09:03 PM

^^just leave yours on mine. I use my private email eh. LOL

kenken94

May 31st, 2012, 09:05 PM

^^just leave yours on mine. I use my private email eh. LOL

Pwede ba ibang carrier gamitin ko? G-Mail at Yahoo Mail lang ata meron ako. Gawa nalang ako sa iba kung di pwede. :)

Nabartek

May 31st, 2012, 09:06 PM

^^gamit ka hotmail para masaya. :lol:

kenken94

May 31st, 2012, 09:10 PM

wait. Leave ko nalang sa profy mo pagkatapos kong gumawa ng account. :lol:

Nabartek

May 31st, 2012, 09:16 PM

roger that

Lilyr

May 31st, 2012, 09:16 PM

May mga Papa din ang Papa Chang natin:lol::lol:

World Wonders Why China Receives Foreign Aid

(http://www.newsmaxworld.com/asia/as_china_too_big_for_aid/2010/09/25/352882.html)
BEIJING — China spent tens of billions of dollars on a dazzling 2008 Olympics. It has sent astronauts into space. It recently became the world's second largest economy. Yet it gets more than $2.5 billion a year in foreign government aid - and taxpayers and lawmakers in donor countries are increasingly asking why...

kenken94

May 31st, 2012, 09:19 PM

May mga Papa din ang Papa Chang natin:lol::lol:

Nakakahiya talaga. Nasan na yung world's 2nd largest economy na pinag-hahambog nila? Eh orphan rin pala gaa natin? Anong kababalaghan ito? What sorcery is this? :lol: :bash: :nuts:

Nabartek

May 31st, 2012, 09:20 PM

^^ Si Papa Ajinomoto?

kenken94

May 31st, 2012, 09:23 PM

^^ @Nab, China na ang ikalawang pinakamalaking ekonomiya sa mundo in terms of GDP PPP terms. Nalampasan na nila si Papa Nippon (nakakatawa masyado ang Ajinomoto :lol:)

Lilyr

May 31st, 2012, 09:30 PM

^^ @Nab, China na ang ikalawang pinakamalaking ekonomiya sa mundo in terms of GDP PPP terms. Nalampasan na nila si Papa Nippon (nakakatawa masyado ang Ajinomoto :lol:)

Ok lang ang Papa Nippon. Mas natatawa ako sa Papa Ajiinomoto:lol::lol:

From the article

Today's aid adds up to $1.2 billion a year from Japan, followed by Germany at about half that amount, then France and Britain.

:lol::lol::lol:

Lilyr

May 31st, 2012, 09:42 PM

^^ don't know whether Papa Sugar is naive, stupid or too smart:lol::lol::lol:

U.S. gives billions of dollars in foreign aid to world's richest countries - then asks to borrow it back

By Daily Mail Reporter
UPDATED: 11:23 EST, 3 June 2011

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The U.S. is providing hundreds of millions of dollars of foreign aid to some of the world's richest countries - while at the same time borrowing billions back, according to report seen by Congress.

The Congressional Research Service released the repor

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1393960/US-gives-billions-foreign-aid-worlds-richest-countries-asks-borrow-back.html#ixzz1wThfeyMA

kenken94

May 31st, 2012, 09:46 PM

^^ Smart enough to build a working relationship with other rich countries. Not stupid, just plainly dumb enough to lend money for the purpose of borrowing it back. :D :lol:

Nabartek

May 31st, 2012, 09:46 PM

^^ Dapat magtraining sa mga bumbay sa Pinas si Papa Sugar para marunong magpautang :lol:

Nabartek

May 31st, 2012, 09:47 PM

Ok lang ang Papa Nippon. Mas natatawa ako sa Papa Ajiinomoto:lol::lol:

From the article

:lol::lol::lol:

hata masyado yung Papa Nippon. :lol:

Flipmarc

May 31st, 2012, 09:47 PM

I think China wants to prolong the crisis in Syria.. why? So that the world will not shift to the WPS dispute. If the international media will have nothing more to cover on Syria, they will find the WPS dispute interesting

PR PR lang yan :lol:

I think the biggest reason why china is supporting the Syrian government is bacause they're afraid their own people will also revolt agains't them. After what already happened in Libya and Egypt and due to China's fragile state, internally, it woud be unwise to support the Syrian people. If that was ever to happen, mind as well sign their own death wish.

Lilyr

May 31st, 2012, 10:01 PM

^^ Smart enough to build a working relationship with other rich countries. Not stupid, just plainly dumb enough to lend money for the purpose of borrowing it back. :D :lol:

Para mo namang sinabi hindi sya pangit, mukhang bruha lang:lol::lol:

Oi tingnan mo, sila ngayon kalmado:lol:

http://ph.news.yahoo.com/philippines-china-defense-officials-agree-dialogue-041002764.html

In a statement issued Friday, the Department of National Defense said Gazmin and his Chinese counterpart agreed to keep the communication lines open while the two countries were facing "difficulties."
"Secretary Gazmin was of the view that channels of communication should be kept (open) between the two defense ministers," read the statement.

to the DND statement, Liang said they should "stay calm (and) make prudent remarks...to avoid overstatements and misinterpretations by other parties."
He also said both sides should "observe restraint" in their actions.
...

Nabartek

May 31st, 2012, 10:02 PM

^^sinogn they China o tayo ba sinasabihan?

kenken94

May 31st, 2012, 10:17 PM

Para mo namang sinabi hindi sya pangit, mukhang bruha lang:lol::lol:

Oi tingnan mo, sila ngayon kalmado:lol:

Parang ganun kasi tingin ko eh. :D :lol:

^^sinogn they China o tayo ba sinasabihan?

US. If you're referring to the utang thingy a while ago. :lol:

M46Fr3D

May 31st, 2012, 11:31 PM

to the DND statement, Liang said they should "stay calm (and) make prudent remarks...to avoid overstatements and misinterpretations by other parties."
He also said both sides should "observe restraint" in their actions.
...

Restraint sa actions? e wala pa ngang actions na ginagawa ah. Masyado naman yan. :) Feeling agad na pinapansin ang mga katangahan nila.

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^^ Smart enough to build a working relationship with other rich countries. Not stupid, just plainly dumb enough to lend money for the purpose of borrowing it back. :D :lol:

Nice move for me, to be honest. Lending money to create ties, borrowing so you will think twice before breaking the ties created. Calculated stupidity as it may look like. :) :) :)

Askal82

June 1st, 2012, 01:36 AM

^^ Si Papa Ajinomoto?

^^ @Nab, China na ang ikalawang pinakamalaking ekonomiya sa mundo in terms of GDP PPP terms. Nalampasan na nila si Papa Nippon (nakakatawa masyado ang Ajinomoto :lol:)

Ok lang ang Papa Nippon. Mas natatawa ako sa Papa Ajiinomoto:lol::lol:

From the article

:lol::lol::lol:

Kung si Papa Sugar, sweet dahil sugar,

Si Papa Ajinomoto, meaty :naughty: dahil kasi umami (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umami) eh. :lol: :lol:

Beam Magnum

June 1st, 2012, 01:53 AM

China shows the world its vicious economics

http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=812813&publicationSubCategoryId=64

But China economy is slowing down now.

Beam Magnum

June 1st, 2012, 02:05 AM

US 7th fleet is looking for a base at Bangladesh.

Watch the video.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/videos/news/Exclusive-US-7th-fleet-base-in-Bangladesh/videoshow/13691403.cms

leofriends

June 1st, 2012, 02:14 AM

US 7th fleet is looking for a base at Bangladesh.

Watch the video.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/videos/news/Exclusive-US-7th-fleet-base-in-Bangladesh/videoshow/13691403.cms

sobrang lapit sa china nyan ah... nakakapressure yan sa china.. :lol:

Askal82

June 1st, 2012, 02:31 AM

China has been building its naval base in Sri Lanka too.

It seems that it is frustrating China's goal of world domination. :lol:

jpdm

June 1st, 2012, 02:44 AM

China urges world to give Annan's Syria plan time

China on Thursday urged the world to give U.N.-Arab League envoy Kofi Annan's peace plan for Syria more time to work, saying there could not be instant solutions to such a complex crisis.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/05/31/us-china-syria-idUSBRE84U0EM20120531

PPPPFFFFTTTT WTf im a reading? How can the U.N. take action while this B.S. country trying to block it.

Gago talaga China. Lumalabas na talaga sungay.China is supporting a murderous regime in Syria.

I think China wants to prolong the crisis in Syria.. why? So that the world will not shift to the WPS dispute. If the international media will have nothing more to cover on Syria, they will find the WPS dispute interesting PR PR lang yan :lol:

Agree.

Nabartek

June 1st, 2012, 03:02 AM

Nabartek

June 1st, 2012, 03:03 AM

Kung si Papa Sugar, sweet dahil sugar,

Si Papa Ajinomoto, meaty :naughty: dahil kasi umami (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umami) eh. :lol: :lol:

Cancerous daw yan? :lol:

On the other hand, I really wonder anong pinakain ng DFA kay Papa Sugar at matigas ngaoyn ang statements ni Papa against Uncle? :lol:

Arvor

June 1st, 2012, 03:38 AM

I think China wants to prolong the crisis in Syria.. why? So that the world will not shift to the WPS dispute. If the international media will have nothing more to cover on Syria, they will find the WPS dispute interesting PR PR lang yan

Doubtful there is nothing preventing international media from covering Scarborough as it is, China has to support Russia and Iran because Syria is an Iranian ally and the Syrian port city of Tartus has Russia's last major foreign base and it is the Russian navies only home and support port in the Mediterranean, Syria is also Russias last major client state in the region and if the Assad regime falls so would Russia's standing in the region it's reputation and most importantly such an event could lead to the ouster of their strategic base in Tartus which is important for them geopolitically .

Finally Russia and China knows that the era of armed regime change project in the middle east by the west isn't over and Syria is next on that list with Iran the big potato saved for last ( Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Sudan etc have all been dealt with Syria has been in the works for a while now with the US/French ouster of Syrian troops from Lebanon a few years ago ), so once Syria is out of the way the path will be clear for a possible confrontation against Iran by the end of the decade when the 3 new large European super carriers and new US one aswell as new JSF planes and other new weapons and a whole new generation of soldiers would be ready for use .

Askal82

June 1st, 2012, 04:39 AM

Doubtful there is nothing preventing international media from covering Scarborough as it is, China has to support Russia and Iran because Syria is an Iranian ally and the Syrian port city of Tartus has Russia's last major foreign base and it is the Russian navies only home and support port in the Mediterranean, Syria is also Russias last major client state in the region and if the Assad regime falls so would Russia's standing in the region it's reputation and most importantly such an event could lead to the ouster of their strategic base in Tartus which is important for them geopolitically .

Finally Russia and China knows that the era of armed regime change project in the middle east by the west isn't over and Syria is next on that list with Iran the big potato saved for last ( Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Sudan etc have all been dealt with Syria has been in the works for a while now with the US/French ouster of Syrian troops from Lebanon a few years ago ), so once Syria is out of the way the path will be clear for a possible confrontation against Iran by the end of the decade when the 3 new large European super carriers and new US one aswell as new JSF planes and other new weapons and a whole new generation of soldiers would be ready for use .

Well, it also serves as a diversion on the US Pivot. It's hitting 3 birds with a stone.

Askal82

June 1st, 2012, 04:40 AM

Cancerous daw yan? :lol:

On the other hand, I really wonder anong pinakain ng DFA kay Papa Sugar at matigas ngaoyn ang statements ni Papa against Uncle? :lol:

Malakas lang umiyak ang baby damulag. :lol:

Askal82

June 1st, 2012, 04:46 AM

ang pangit sa ginawa ni GMA when China came calling, nagnakaw sila ng hot potato sa atin at kasabwat si GMA sa pagsmuggle ng potato. Kaya ayan ang problema natin...ang China na mismo

Parang gulong lang, minsan nasa itaas, minsan nasa ibaba.

I think China seriously miscalculated though, esp when Noynoy came to the seat. Noynoy does not like the Chinese potato (kahit may lahing Chinese pa yan) :lol: Now it will be up to China to repair the friendship. Sila lang naman yung sigaw ng sigaw diplomatically with their war rhetoric :lol:

Kaya yan, labidabs ulit with Papa :lol:

Parang napanood ko na yan ah. :lol::lol:

Lilyr

June 1st, 2012, 04:57 AM

Parang napanood ko na yan ah. :lol::lol:

Gulong ng Palad? Sala sa Init, Sala sa Lamig? Isusumbong kita sa Tatay Ko?
:lol::lol::lol:

Lilyr

June 1st, 2012, 05:00 AM

Mr Grey

June 1st, 2012, 06:04 AM

PH Navy needs bigger warships
by Rodney Jaleco, ABS-CBN North America News Bureau
Posted at 06/01/2012 11:29 AM | Updated as of 06/01/2012 11:29 AM

WASHINGTON D.C. - A ranking Philippine Navy official said they will need more and bigger ships to protect the nation’s maritime borders miles away from one of the longest coastlines in the world.

Rear Admiral Jose Luis Alano, Philippine Fleet (PhilFleet) commander, said the country has no choice but to acquire ships like the US Coast Guard’s Hamilton-class cutters because of seasonal changes in the South China Sea that make it treacherous to smaller vessels about half of the time each year.

Alano and Armed Forces chief Gen. Jessie Dellosa formally accepted delivery of the USCGC Dallas, the 378-foot, 3,250-ton sister ship of the Hamilton that was turned over to the Philippine last year and rechristened the BRP Gregorio del Pilar, during formal rites in Charleston, South Carolina May 22.

Bigger ships, especially like the high-endurance, all-weather Hamilton-class cutters, can sail through huge waves and stay longer at sea, he explained.

He downplayed reports that like the Hamilton, the US had stripped the Dallas of its advanced weapons and electronic equipment despite a request from Philippine officials last January to keep them. They retained the 76mm Oto Melara but removed the 2 Mark 38 25mm cannons and the more sophisticated sensors.

Alano told the Manila Mail that since the Dallas underwent its last major retrofit in 1988, many of the machinery and equipment aboard needed replacement anyway.

He added that the Philippine Navy is buying its own Mark 38 “Bushmaster” chain guns that can spew 200 rounds per minute to distances of as far as 6 kilometers. One will be installed on the Dallas (to be rechristened BRP Ramon Alcaraz) and the 2nd will be installed on the BRP Gregorio del Pilar, after the Dallas arrives in Manila sometime in November.

Alano revealed they are also putting in new surveillance and command and control equipment. “This is part of arrangements when the vessel’s capabilities will be upgraded,” he explained. The equipment is being procured on “cash basis” under the US Foreign Military Sales (FMS) program.

But he admitted their bigger concern is how to sustain the naval modernization after decades of neglect. He said the development of a private-sector defense industry is crucial to the military’s long-term plans to build a credible defensive deterrent.

That is why they are excited about an ongoing acquisitions of Philippine-made 65-foot Multi-Purpose Attack Crafts (MPACs). A local company is constructing them, borrowing technology from Taiwan and Sweden. The MPACs have a top speed of 48 knots.

Although they are not exactly the “big ships” the Philippine needs to operate in the disputed parts of the South China Sea, Alano said the deal can kick-start a modest but home-bred naval defense industry. In the US, he noted, private companies – not the military – are the most active proponents of military modernization and are not timid about lobbying the Pentagon and Capitol Hill for funding.

A domestic defense industry would also help create demand for workers that have the skills needed for staffing a modern military. Alano explained that unlike ground forces, the Philippine Navy will need to recruit and train additional sailors who can operate the electronics and complex gadgets standard to most new warships.

He said they plan to buy up to 40 MPACs but most of them will go to replacing older patrol crafts that have become too expensive to maintain.

Philippine Defense Secretary Voltaire Gazmin said the government will award 138 contracts worth about P70 billion (about $1.2 billion) before July to boost military modernization.

:banana::banana::banana: It's not just a simple boat after all!

Mr Grey

June 1st, 2012, 06:14 AM

NYPD to open satellite office in PH
by Rodney Jaleco, ABS-CBN North America News Bureau
Posted at 06/01/2012 11:36 AM | Updated as of 06/01/2012 11:36 AM

WASHINGTON D.C. - A Sinatra ditty promised that if you can make it in New York “you can make it anywhere” – a standard the Philippine National Police (PNP) will be testing as it forges a first-ever alliance with the New York Police Department (NYPD).

PNP Director General Nicanor Bartolome is flying to the “Big Apple” on June 14 to sign a memorandum of understanding (MOU) with NYPD chief Joseph Esposito.

“When that was conceptualized, the PNP wanted close coordination with the US police agencies to stop terrorist activities,” explained retired police Director Renato Heredia, a former police attaché in Washington DC.

The agreement will allow the NYPD to open a satellite office in the Philippines, mostly likely to be located within the PNP headquarters at Camp Crame. The PNP can also open a similar office in New York although this has to be threshed out when Bartolome meets his American counterparts because of the PNP’s limited funds.

Chief Superintendent Armando Ramolete, police attaché, revealed that the MOU was years in the making. “There will be an exchange of information and training opportunities,” he said, adding that it could provide a mechanism for the PNP to modernize its crime-fighting tools.

The NYPD was established in 1845 and is considered the largest police force and 2nd largest law enforcement agency in the US.

They have broad capabilities ranging from an Emergency Services unit to a Harbor Patrol to public transportation. The New York City Transit Police and New York City Housing Authority Police Department were merged with the NYPD in 1995.

The NYPD also has one of the most sophisticated anti-crime computer network with an immense data warehouse

This one is wierd? Is this to say be are not putting bases in the Philippines but NYPD Police Stations. hahaha

Nabartek

June 1st, 2012, 06:16 AM

^^ hanahahaha. :lol:

Baka next california highway patrol naman :lol:

Mr Grey

June 1st, 2012, 06:21 AM

^^ hanahahaha. :lol:

Baka next california highway patrol naman :lol:

Nope Utah Mountain Rangers daw! In bold red walking on a sunny afternoon at edsa.. . wonder how will that feel. hahaha:lol::lol::lol:

chrismartin02

June 1st, 2012, 06:24 AM

LuckyLady

June 1st, 2012, 07:01 AM

Gago talaga China. Lumalabas na talaga sungay.China is supporting a murderous regime in Syria.

Agree.

birds of the same feather flocks together. rogue, murderous, bully states are friends most of the times:lol: northkor, syria, russia, china, who else in the league:lol:

AmbutLang

June 1st, 2012, 07:39 AM

Gerald R. Ford Build Sequence: Keel-laying to Launch in Under Two Minutes [VIDEO]
q4F_JcFZSU4

http://gcaptain.com/gerald-ford-build-sequence-keel-laying/?46993

ManilaBoy45

June 1st, 2012, 10:45 AM

Beijing Projects Power in Strategic SCS ...

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/01/world/asia/beijing-projects-power-in-strategic-south-china-sea.html?src=mv&ref=world

jpdm

June 1st, 2012, 10:50 AM

jpdm

June 1st, 2012, 10:57 AM

Philippine made MPACs:cheers::cheers::cheers:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_lfvope2AnlE/SxPGMvoNmeI/AAAAAAAAAQU/uoA-HR-_K9M/s1600/multi_purpose_attack_craft_philippine_navy.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_lfvope2AnlE/SxPGMvoNmeI/AAAAAAAAAQU/uoA-HR-_K9M/s1600/multi_purpose_attack_craft_philippine_navy.jpg

http://adroth.ph/AFP/pn/mpac/20090722012406_1.jpg
http://adroth.ph/AFP/pn/mpac/20090722012406_1.jpg

anak_mm

June 1st, 2012, 11:48 AM

kenken94

June 1st, 2012, 12:00 PM

^^ Sabi sa Constitution pwede naman so long as it is under a Treaty ratified upon by the two countries.

anak_mm

June 1st, 2012, 12:04 PM

^^ mas maliit kasi na isyu kapag "police station" lang :lol:

Nope Utah Mountain Rangers daw! In bold red walking on a sunny afternoon at edsa.. . wonder how will that feel. hahaha:lol::lol::lol:
^^ hanahahaha. :lol:

Baka next california highway patrol naman :lol:
:rofl:

kenken94

June 1st, 2012, 12:21 PM

^^ Yan kasi resulta ng mga leftist na di naman nagbabasa ng Constitution. Di ko naman sila masisi dahil over na over din naman talaga sa complexity at haba yung 1987 Constitution kaya minsan may ambiguity sa mga provisions sa 18 Articles nito.

Kumpara mo kaya sa US Constitution, 2 pages lang ata yun. Hindi kasi BRIEF, BROAD and DEFINITE ang Consti natin. Pilipino nga naman. :doh:

As far as I know, the Philippines' 1987 Constitution is the longest constitution in the world base don the number of words used. Preamble palang ang haba na, samahan mo pa ng masyadong kumplekadong provisions, wala talagang magkaka-interes na basahin yan. :lol: :nuts:

anak_mm

June 1st, 2012, 12:33 PM

sa Phil. const. naman kasi pati ang barangay namin ay binabanggit pa

at yung US constitution sobrang tagal na, di pa pinapanganak si rizal

Christian_123

June 1st, 2012, 02:57 PM

NYPD to open satellite office in PH

Subliminal US micro base...I love it :lol:

Beam Magnum

June 1st, 2012, 04:10 PM

Upgrade of AFP hardware long overdue:PAF official

THE Armed Forces of the Philippines (AFP) requires P75 billion in the next five years for its modernization program.

Upgrading the country’s military hardware is long overdue and has nothing to do with the recent run-in with China over the Scarborough Shoal, said Lt. Gen. Lauro Catalino G. dela Cruz, Philippine Air Force (PAF) commanding general.

He said they learned from Sen. Panfilo Lacson that the Senate just passed the revised law modernizing the military that was enacted during the time of then president Fidel Ramos and authored by then senator Rodolfo Biazon.

Dela Cruz was at the Benito Ebuen Air Base (formerly Mactan Air Base) yesterday for the 65th PAF pre-anniversary visit.

Recommended buys

He said the AFP has recommended to the Aquino administration to buy 21 UH1H helicopters, 10 attack helicopters, three medium-lift aircrafts to augment the three heavy-lift C130 and 18 trainer aircrafts.

Just recently, dela Cruz said, the PAF received four new helicopters. He said four more will be delivered in November. These will be used for search and rescue operations.

Dela Cruz admitted that the PAF is not capable of waging war with other countries. But he said they have asked for 12 surface attack aircrafts for territorial defense.

“This is the capability that we have lost in the past years and we want to revive it to upgrade our military strength,” dela Cruz said.

He said they will also acquire three radars that will be installed in strategic sites in Luzon, Visayas and Mindanao.

An uneven fight

With these radars, enemy aircraft that enter Philippine air space can be detected and intercepted, he said.

He said they’ve also recommended purchasing 8 new Nomads, light-lift aircrafts that are used to move troops.

Last May 7, newspapers in Hong Kong reported that a China-Philippines War will be a mismatch. China has 150 fighter planes to the Philippines’ zero. China has 65 submarines, including six nuclear-powered ones, while the Philippines has none.

But dela Cruz said the AFP believes the matter should be settled through diplomacy.

“Let’s give peace a chance,” he said.

This is hopeless. Those AFP did not understand the sufficiently interested in the technology of missiles and advanced weaponry.

Christian_123

June 1st, 2012, 05:21 PM

^^Kitang kita ang pagiging corrupt ng mga ogag nating generals. Syempre, kaya bibili ng lumang gamit para meron silang kick back dahil bibilhin nila 'to ng "brand new" price. Ala PNP chopper scandal...

Upgrade of AFP hardware long overdue:PAF official
http://www.city-data.com/forum/members/gallowscalibrator-129085-albums-funny-images-pic85357-you-dont-say.png

xxxriainxxx

June 1st, 2012, 06:43 PM

Bagyuhin sana ang mga Chicoms!

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/547913_10150809831567101_1258481995_n.jpg

El_Toro

June 1st, 2012, 07:39 PM

ang style kasi ng mga ubod ng talino natin mga general pagdating sa corruption eh ipropropose na second hand ang bilhin mga planes and ships para sa maintenance fund sila magnanakaw. proven na yan sa mga naging hearing sa senate na yun maintenance fund yung tinataga nila, sana nga lang yun talino nila sa pagnanakaw eh ndi kasama sa curriculum ng PMA...

nakakahinayang lang na lagi silang nakukuntento sa mga binibili nilang propellor powered planes na kahit brand new pa eh ndi naman pwedeng idefend ang air space natin...

kung yung mga mas mahirap na bansa kesa pilipinas nakakabili ng modernong gamit bakit ndi tayo???

KnightOfTheFlag

June 1st, 2012, 08:14 PM

birds of the same feather flocks together. rogue, murderous, bully states are friends most of the times:lol: northkor, syria, russia, china, who else in the league:lol:

Pakistan, Venezuela, Sudan, khmer rouge to add to that list...

Nabartek

June 1st, 2012, 09:22 PM

Somalia....:lol:

d7beast

June 2nd, 2012, 12:53 AM

Upgrade of AFP hardware long overdue:PAF official

This is hopeless. Those AFP did not understand the sufficiently interested in the technology of missiles and advanced weaponry.

Magsipag-resign na kayo mga 9gag na mga heneral at opisyales ng AFP, parang namimili lang kayo ng mga laruan!!!akala ko ba para sa minimum credible defense posture yang mga bibilhin ninyo, puro mga walang kakwentakwentang mga eroplano naman ang mga yan!!! paano matatakot mga pirata nyan???mga OGAG!!!:bash::bash::bash:

jpdm

June 2nd, 2012, 12:54 AM

Nakabili na nga ng bagong helicopter from Poland, mukhang bibili na naman ng second hand na Huey. Talaga naman mga bobo nating mga heneral.

Beam Magnum

June 2nd, 2012, 01:22 AM

Chinese newspaper hits Philippines

http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=813136&publicationSubCategoryId=63

Same shitty chinese propaganda lies.

Nabartek

June 2nd, 2012, 01:28 AM

^^ their rhetoric is getting old. Cant they think of anything new ? Ang pirated cd nung dating nila :lol:

Beam Magnum

June 2nd, 2012, 01:36 AM

Now this is good news.

The Pentagon’s Return to the Philippines

Remember a few months back when news emerged that the United States wants to have increased access to Philippine ports and airfrields to use as potetnial dispersal bases in any conflict in the Western Pacific? At the time, it seemed that Defense Department officials merely wanted occasional — if frequent — access to these installations, not permanent bases. Well, Defense Secretary Leon Panetta just dropped a hint that the Pentagon may well be planning on basing U.S. troops in the Philippines for the first time since America shuttered its massive bases in the ex-U.S. colony 20 years ago.

DoD also wants to strengthen its presence in the region, particularly though rotational deployments, which would be similar to the arrangement the Pentagon has with Australia to deploy Marines there.

The Pentagon “working on” an arrangement like this in the Philippines and “elsewhere,” Panetta said without naming additional countries.

That’s right, the U.S. is considering some sort of basing arrangement in the Philippenes, a country that wants Amercia’s help in fending off the threat of Chinese domination of the Philippines’ resource-rich corner of the South China Sea (Google the Spratly Islands). All the term “rotational” means is that different units will swap in and out of facilities in the Philippines and elsewhere; basically, there’s going to be a long term American military presence in these places. This could simply be a rotation of U.S. Navy P-3 Orion surveillance planes to the islands — something that Pentagon planners have already referred to — or it could be something bigger, adding to the 330,000 American troops that are already based in the Pacific. Time will tell.

Ps. American SOF troops have been quetly operating in the southern Philippenes for a decade, helping the local military combat an Islamic insurgency, but you already knew that.

http://defensetech.org/2012/06/01/the-pentagons-return-to-the-philippines/

Askal82

June 2nd, 2012, 01:36 AM

^^ their rhetoric is getting old. Cant they think of anything new ? Ang pirated cd nung dating nila :lol:

Ano pa ba ang bago dyan? :lol:

Lilyr

June 2nd, 2012, 01:53 AM

Beam Magnum

June 2nd, 2012, 01:57 AM

Eurosatory 2012 – a Compass for the Global AFV Market

Eurosatory provides an excellent insight into the global armored vehicle industry, indicating the trends, technologies and evolving requirements reflected by the vehicles on display, live demos as well as the technologies shown by tens, even hundreds of suppliers and innovators.
Lighter is Better?

The most obvious trend is the shift from the heavy armored fighting vehicles (AFV) to lighter, more maneuverable yet highly protected AFVs. This trend is indicated mainly in western programs, in countries that foresee their military to be involved in contingencies overseas, mainly in lower intensity conflicts – like U.S., Canada, U.K., France, Germany, Italy, Spain, Denmark, Netherlands, Norway, Sweden and, to some extent – Brazil.

These countries have ceased producing Main Battle Tanks (MBT), and have shifted their focus to tracked AIFVs such as FRES, PUMA, CV90 and Dardo. Overall, the balance between tracked and wheeled platforms is maintained, yet the share of MBTs in these countries’ Order of Battle (ORBAT) continues to decline.

Since most of these programs are in production, teaming for new ones is key for future success of specialized original equipment manufacturer (OEMs). The US Ground Combat Vehicle (GCV), Joint Light Tactical Vehicle (JLTV) and, Marine Personnel Carrier (MPC) programs, Israeli Namer AIFV, Canadian Close Combat Vehicle (CCV) and Tactical Armored Patrol Vehicle (TAPV), the French Scorpion and VBMR, the British FRES-SV and Australian Land 121/4 programs are some of the main opportunities currently underway. More could be on the horizon as coalition forces return from Afghanistan and begin to reset and rebuild their forces and capabilities for future challenges.

MBTs Still Going Strong in Asia

Countries facing potential cross-border opponents and likely to engage in high intensity land warfare still value the use of Main Battle Tanks and therefore continue to develop, build, and upgrade MBTs – these include Russia, South Korea, India, Pakistan, Iran, Saudi-Arabia, Egypt, Israel and Turkey, each maintaining running MBT production or upgrading programs, with all countries, except Saudi-Arabia and Egypt, opting to develop indigenous designs rather than buy off-the shelf foreign tanks. Most countries retain domestic manufacturing capabilities in terms of metalwork, manufacturing and assembly of automotive systems, yet some are still lacking the knowhow and capabilities in developing and producing composites and ceramic protection modules, advanced main armament and ammunition. Other opportunities for OEM (Other Equipment Manufacturers and subcontractors) are in the field of self-protection, electronics and optronics and CBRNE (life support). Camouflage and concealment, which requires multi-disciplinary expertise in signature measurement and reduction is also a field often requiring expert advise. Introduction of health management capabilities to improve logistics could also be an opportunity for foreign suppliers improving the sustainment of such complex systems.

Second Hand Tanks are Popular

As western armies have been phasing out their advanced tanks (primarily Leopard II), a growing market for second hand tanks has also evolved, primarily for the Leopard II. Tanks withdrawn from German, Dutch and Danish armies were sold in recent years as military surplus. More tanks are likely to be offered by the Austrian and Swiss armies, as these countries are implementing planned cuts. Among the countries buying those tanks were Canada, Chile, Brazil and Singapore.

These markets open new opportunities for suppliers, offsetting for the loss of some domestic markets. Yet, for some, expanding operations overseas means higher cost of operation, at a time they are most vulnerable. One’s weakness is always the someone else’s opportunity, and, for cash rich distributors in developing markets in South Korea, India, Singapore, Turkey or Brazil – leveraging knowhow and low-volume production lines of certain parts and subsystems could offer sensible business opportunities.

http://defense-update.com/20120514_eurosatory-2012-a-compass-for-the- global-afv-market.html

O Ano hinihintay mga general pumunta kayo dyan. This is opportunity to buy good stuff to boost the morale of our troops.

Askal82

June 2nd, 2012, 02:39 AM

Nabartek

June 2nd, 2012, 02:41 AM

I still call BS on permanent basing again. i don't think Papa wants to fall for the same dilemma. parang puro deduction lang yung article na yan on another article. What I know Rotational troops pa or temporary/mobile "bases" maniniwala ako. Besides, I think they're doing it already.

Anyway, cue the LFS, Bayad Muna, Akbayad, Amoy Pawis here they come!:lol:

Papa knows that they will be held up for ransom again if the US will set up a base.

Plus, initial set up and maintenance is not inexpensive. At this point in time, i dont think it is financially possible.

I think the us will just have more rotational troops so the us could respond faster should hostilities begin

Askal82

June 2nd, 2012, 02:48 AM

I still call BS on permanent basing again. i don't think Papa wants to fall for the same dilemma. parang puro deduction lang yung article na yan on another article. What I know Rotational troops pa or temporary/mobile "bases" maniniwala ako. Besides, I think they're doing it already.

Anyway, cue the LFS, Bayad Muna, Akbayad, Amoy Pawis here they come!:lol:

Well, we can't always discount the possibility. Magreklamo ang mga leftists at walang makikinig sa kanila. It seems that the Filipino people by majority is actually supporting it. :lol:

Yeah, go ahead, put your bases in the Philippines so we can buy time for the AFP to accelerate its development and modernization program and the US will have the Filipinos do the job of thwarting Chinese aggression. Malay mo, magiging libre yung mga F15's or F16's nila sa atin. :lol: ;)

Nabartek

June 2nd, 2012, 02:57 AM

NYPD have satellite offices in other countries as well and it makes sense that they should have one in the Philippines in order to monitor the movement of terrorist groups and criminal syndicates that could use the country as a transit point for their operations. It would be of great assistance to us especially when tracking down their movements that keeps preying on our vulnerable kababayans for smuggling narcotics across the countries.

Sana pati sa illegal drugs para masmaraming intsik mahuli :lol:

Askal82

June 2nd, 2012, 03:08 AM

Sana pati sa illegal drugs para masmaraming intsik mahuli :lol:

Of course, we can also rely on NYPD's databases to catch them as well. Parang FBI din ang function nyan.

If you remembered that a terrorist who made the first attempt to bomb the world trade center in the 90's was captured in the Philippines. Ginawa nyang test subject ang Tokyo bound PAL noon from Cebu. Buti nalang nagpalit ng eroplano or else baka sumabog nlang yun sa ere dahil iba ang position ng fuel tank.

Lilyr

June 2nd, 2012, 03:49 AM

Kit kat break! Though it is sort of related, old news:

WASHINGTON -- The Pentagon charged Monday that five Chinese ships shadowed and maneuvered dangerously close to a U.S. Navy vessel in an apparent attempt to harass the American crew. (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/03/09/pentagon-chinese-ships-harassed-unarmed-navy-craft-international-waters/)

Defense officials in the Obama administration said the incident Sunday followed several days of "increasingly aggressive" acts by Chinese ships in the region. The incident took place in international waters in the South China Sea, about 75 miles south of Hainan Island.

U.S. officials said a protest was lodged with the Chinese government over the weekend and it was to be repeated to a Beijing military attache at a Pentagon meeting Monday.

The USNS Impeccable sprayed one ship with water from fire hoses to force it away. Despite the force of the water, Chinese crew members stripped to their underwear and continued closing within 25 feet, the Defense Department said.

"On March 8, 2009, five Chinese vessels shadowed and aggressively maneuvered in dangerously close proximity to USNS Impeccable, in an apparent coordinated effort to harass the U.S. ocean surveillance ship while it was conducting routine operations in international waters," the Pentagon statement said.

Click here to see the full statement from the Department of Defense.

The Chinese ships included a Chinese Navy intelligence collection ship, a Bureau of Maritime Fisheries Patrol Vessel, a State Oceanog...

:lol::lol::lol:
Ok yan. We should moon the Chicoms too next time they get near our boats.:lol:

Mr Grey

June 2nd, 2012, 05:33 AM

Upgrade of AFP hardware long overdue:PAF official

This is hopeless. Those AFP did not understand the sufficiently interested in the technology of missiles and advanced weaponry.

Enough with the hueys the generals should get more of the new sokol. And no more trainers this jets are not for combat but for circus proposes. Stupid generals do not know how to think big. I hope aquino will shut there proposal down. Since aquino likes gaming alot hopefully he will see the difference of this jets from the real jets like f16, migs and sukoi's

3cr

June 2nd, 2012, 06:24 AM

Aquino to meet Obama, Cameron
Journal online
http://www.journal.com.ph/index.php/news/top-stories/31060-aquino-to-meet-obama-cameron

PRESIDENT Benigno Aquino is set to tackle with US President Barack Obama and United Kingdom Prime Minister David Cameron next week the Philippines’ territorial dispute with China over the Scarborough or Panatag Shoal during his bilateral meetings with the two leaders.

"We will discuss the West Philippine Sea (with both Obama and Cameron)," the President told Palace reporters yesterday.,

Aquino said that “this is a body of water where a substantial amount of trade passes through so it is a concern for everyone."

The President is set to fly to London for an official visit from June 4-6 before flying to Washington to meet with Obama on June 8.

Other highlights of the President’s June 4 to 6 London trip are meetings with Duke of York Prince Andrew, who is the Queen’s official representative, as well as top British investors.

He is also expected to take part in the Philippine Fun tourism campaign of the Department of Tourism and meet with the Filipino community in the UK, the largest in Europe.

Aquino is confident that his newly-appointed ambassador to China, Sonia Brady, will be able to hit the ground running and improve bilateral relations between Manila and Beijing.

"She's been there. She knows who to talk to. She knows what the concerns are," the President said.

Brady, who is returning to her old post, which she handled from 2008 to 2010, breezed through the confirmation process of the Commission of Appointments.

3cr

June 2nd, 2012, 06:42 AM

US to shift most of naval fleet to Pacific by 2020 as it keeps eye on PH-China territorial row
Interaksyon
http://www.interaksyon.com/article/33601/us-to-shift-most-of-naval-fleet-to-pacific-by-2020-as-it-keeps-eye-on-ph-china-territorial-row

The United States will shift the majority of its naval fleet to the Pacific by 2020 as part of a new strategic focus on Asia, Pentagon chief Leon Panetta told a summit in Singapore on Saturday.

The decision to deploy more ships to the Pacific Ocean, along with expanding a network of military partnerships, was part of a "steady, deliberate" effort to bolster the US role in an area deemed vital to America's future, he said.

Panetta said "by 2020, the Navy will re-posture its forces from today's roughly 50-50 percent split between the Pacific and the Atlantic to about a 60-40 split between those oceans -- including six aircraft carriers, a majority of our cruisers, destroyers, littoral combat ships, and submarines."

The US Navy currently has a fleet of 285 ships, with about half of those vessels deployed or assigned to the Pacific.

Although the total size of the overall fleet may decline in coming years depending on budget pressures, Pentagon officials said the number of naval ships in the Pacific would rise in absolute terms.

The United States also planned to increase the number of military exercises in the Pacific and to conduct more port visits over a wider area extending to the Indian Ocean.

Panetta was speaking to defence officials from across the region at the Shangri-La Dialogue, a summit organised by the London-based International Institute for Strategic Studies.

The speech appeared designed to reassure partners and allies worried about Beijing's rise and more assertive stance in the South China Sea that Washington's much-publicised "pivot" to Asia would be backed by concrete action.

Budget woes in Washington would not affect the plan to tilt towards Asia, Panetta said.

"The Department of Defence has in our five-year budget plan a detailed blueprint for implementing this strategy, realising our long-term goals in this region, and still meeting our fiscal responsibilities," Panetta said.

The Pentagon planned "to make new investments in the capabilities needed to project power and operate in the Asia-Pacific," including radar-evading fighter jets, a new long-distance bomber, electronic warfare and missile defences, he said.

But the project would take time to take root, in the form of new doctrine and weaponry.

"It will take years for these concepts, and many of the investments we are making, to be fully realised.

"But make no mistake -- in a steady, deliberate, and sustainable way -- the United States military is rebalancing and brings enhanced capabilities to this vital region," he said.

Military commanders are revising doctrine to take into account new weapons "that could deny US forces access to key sea routes and lines of communication," he said.

Amid a growing US-China rivalry, American officials privately acknowledge the push for a larger US military footprint is meant to reinforce American diplomacy when confronting Beijing's assertive stance in the South China Sea.

But Panetta insisted that Washington wanted dialogue with Beijing and not conflict.

"Some view the increased emphasis by the United States on Asia-Pacific as a challenge to China. I reject that view entirely," he said.

"Our effort to renew and intensify our involvement in Asia is fully compatible with the development and growth of China. Indeed, increased US involvement in this region will benefit China as it advances our shared security and prosperity," he said.

But in laying out core US principles in the region, Panetta made clear Washington opposed any attempt by Beijing to make unilateral moves in its push for territorial rights in the oil-rich South China Sea.

Disputes had to be resolved through agreed-upon rules among all countries and based on international law, he said.

The United States was committed to "open access by all to the shared domains of sea, air, space, and cyberspace" and that disputes be solved "without coercion or the use of force."

Panetta also said the United States is "paying close attention to the situation in Scarborough Shoal in the South China Sea," where the Philippines and China have been locked in an argument over territorial rights.

A number of other countries also have territorial claims in the potentially resource-rich South China Sea.

Lilyr

June 2nd, 2012, 07:03 AM

^^Ang galing naman ng gumawa ng headline na yan.
Nagmukhang iyakin ang baby damulag.:lol:

reminds of this song

waF6YIsNaks

Hey daddy there's a dragon in the driveway,
Mamma there's a grizzly on the lawn.
You better come quick ‘cause there's a hippo in the bathtub
And it's going down the drain, oh no its gone!

:lol::lol::lol:

kenken94

June 2nd, 2012, 07:10 AM

Aquino to meet Obama, Cameron

At least you get to meet all leaders of the three strategic area of entry of both the US' eastern and western flanks - the British Isles to the east and to the west is the Philippine Archipelago. :cheers:

3cr

June 2nd, 2012, 07:10 AM

Hopefully we can get contracts to service and maintain the US naval fleet. Pati na docking rights contract na rin. Subic is prime and ready to take them US Navy back. Atleast we hit 2 birds with one stone napagkitaan na may security pa against China/Communists and jihadists/terrorists. This is a better arrangement I would think than bringing back US bases here in Pinas. :okay::okay:

jm0109

June 2nd, 2012, 07:30 AM

johnmizer

June 2nd, 2012, 07:42 AM

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s720x720/536018_4013104815988_2134791241_n.jpg

nayki

June 2nd, 2012, 07:49 AM

Bagyuhin sana ang mga Chicoms!

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/547913_10150809831567101_1258481995_n.jpg

Noong last May ko pa pinagdarasal na bagyuhin yang Scaborough shoal para magsialisan mga barko ng china dyan. Pag umatras mga yan mapipilitan bumais mga yan sa mainland or seek shelter in palawan-spratly area...sana bago sila makabalik ng tuluyan occupied na uli ng PH coast guard iyong entry ng lagoon. Di ako magugulat kung one of this day meron ng nakatayong structure dyan ng china in anticipation of upcoming typhoon season, pero kaya ba nila gumawa ng structure dyan sa typhoon path na yan na makakasurvive? Unless singlaki ng Oil Rig platform lalagay nila...

davidheathe

June 2nd, 2012, 10:33 AM

A New Security Order in the Pacific

The United States today is not the United States of 1962, financially sound and brimming with potential. Despite its best efforts, Washington will find itself hard pressed to find a manageable solution to the plethora of problems that plague the South China Sea.

Faced with a debt crisis and stubborn unemployment levels at home, exhausted militarily and economically from campaigns in Afghanistan and Iraq, the US must temper its foreign policy objectives in this period of austerity. No longer can the US be expected to provide economic and military support to its traditional allies.

Despite an expected reduction in force—almost US$500 billion and perhaps more in planned defense spending cuts over the next decade—it is unlikely the US would withdraw completely from its commitments in Asia-Pacific or around the world, but its ability to execute foreign policy will be much diminished.

To reflect the changing geopolitics, there is a need for a new security order in the Pacific. It is clear that the US maintains an interest in Asia-Pacific but can no longer play the same role it was once capable of. Countries in the region must assume responsibility over their security. However, this new security order should not omit the United States by counting it out permanently, but take into account its new role.

By thrusting the bulk of responsibility onto the shoulders of Asian countries, with the hopes that such an order would provide relevant, regional-specific solutions to regional matters, the new security order would exist as an international forum and security alliance, providing the methods and means to resolve disputes before they could devolve into conflicts.

Common Interests, Shared Responsibility

The desire for an Asia-Pacific at peace is undoubtedly shared by all regional countries. Regardless of China’s assertiveness, not even they would seek conflict when it can be avoided. In this, all parties in this new security order could find common ground: to establish mechanisms that would preserve peace and security, and give way to prosperity.

While the United States’ pivot to the Asia-Pacific has included Marines in Australia and increased naval exercises with allies and strategic partners in the region, it cannot be expected that the US Navy will provide an umbrella of protection for all those in need. Ultimately, of the Southeast Asian nations, only the Philippines are assured protection under its Mutual Defense Treaty with the US. As such, other Southeast Asian nations must adapt to a reality in which American assistance is not always assured. Southeast Asian nations must not assume that the US will play an absolute role.

What would a new security order in Asia-Pacific look like? It would have, perhaps, Japan, India, and Australia as perimeter nations, and at its core comprise of the US and Southeast Asian. This alliance—the Pacific Security Organization, or PSO, as it will be referred from here on—would serve as the new security order in Asia-Pacific. The US would continue to play an important role, but leadership of the organization would (and should) be assigned to a member of ASEAN, whose presence and interests are relevant to other ASEAN and regional partners.

For obvious reasons, Japan, India, and Australia, none of whom are ASEAN states, are unlikely to be leaders of this new order. History has not endeared Japan to the hearts and minds of its neighbors. India is too far removed from Southeast Asia; and Australia, however economically sound, may be excluded for similar reasons as India.

Indonesia, possessing the largest economy and population in Southeast Asia, is a reasonable contender for a leadership role in the security order. It is sometimes perceived as a natural leader in ASEAN due to its size and strength, and so might be well-received as a leader among future member nations of the PSO.

If Indonesia should seek a leadership role, it is likely to receive the nod from the US. In his remarks to American Forces Press Service, General Martin E. Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, remarked that an Asian-Pacific organization similar to NATO would have value; however, it must be demanded by those nations. There is need for such an organization, but no country has yet taken the initiative to create one. Indonesia is well placed to spearhead the creation of the PSO.

From its inception, the Pacific Security Organization must not be an American creation. The organization must be, at every level, an organization by Southeast Asian nations for Southeast Asian nations, in order to appropriately address concerns in the region. This would therefore entail member states of the PSO to assume all responsibility for their security and commitment to other party states. Over time, the PSO can evolve to encompass all of Asia-Pacific, but only after it has succeeded in securing peace in Southeast Asia.

The United States, of course, would remain an integral part of the organization, but it should not be looked upon to provide all the answers. In this period of austerity, the US military is in the process reorganizing its priorities and restructuring its forces. If it is to play any role in Asia-Pacific, the US must require its allies and strategic partners to assume some responsibility in securing their respective interests. The establishment of the PSO would allow Southeast Asian nations, formally dependent on US protection, to look to themselves to strengthen and improve their security.

Challenges and Opportunities Ahead

Undoubtedly there will be many challenges facing the establishment of this new security order; however, all the same, there will equally be many benefits. Challenges are merely opportunities yet discovered; and although the challenges are immediate and benefits distant, if not nebulous, this should in no way discourage any attempt at formalizing a new security order. The greatest opportunity of all is the stabilization the Pacific. If this century should be the “Pacific Century,” it would be better that the Pacific be free of conflict.

A new security order is crucial to delivering and maintaining said peace and prosperity. The most pressing matter at hand is not only assembling the countries to be involved, but also organizing them among common grounds. As stated earlier, although these countries share a common interest, their differences are many; and it may be that these differences prevent the creation of a new security order.

Overlapping territorial claims in the South China Sea, for example, could scuttle the PSO before it can take off. Almost all claimant states in the Spratly Island disputes have overlapping claims. Past grievances between countries may also be too much to bear moving forward. Whatever the challenges, however, it must be made clear to potential parties that there is much to be gained by putting aside these differences.

Beyond peace and security in the Pacific, this new, international security forum could strengthen ties between East and West. Much like NATO can be used to address, discuss, and attempt to solve security concerns before they erupt, this Asian-Pacific security organization can do the same. The potential for the South China Sea territorial disputes to devolve into conflict looms in the distance. At present, it seems unlikely that any claimant country will start a war over the disputes; however, would it not be better to resolve this matter now rather than wait and find out later? ASEAN has thus far proved lacking in finding an acceptable solution to this problem. It may be that a new forum with the proper mandate is required to resolve the disputes.

Vietnam’s Dilemma

Of the ASEAN countries that might join the new security alliance, Vietnam proves to be the most interesting, equally important and unimportant. Possessing a mid-size economy among Southeast Asian nations, a fairly young and large population, and a modernizing military, its addition to the PSO would certainly be welcomed.

Vietnam, however, has the unfortunate circumstance of being an historic rival of China; yet, despite this, remains deeply tied to the latter. Vietnam’s economy is dependent on China, as is the legitimacy of its government. Both are Communist (in name more than philosophy), but where the rule of China’s Communist Party is absolute, Vietnam’s is on the precipice. Internal divisions have strained the Vietnamese Communist Party, with some party members perhaps advocating closer ties with the United States, with others demanding the party and country remain close to China.

Warming up to the US would allow greater access to Western markets, but at the cost of necessary political reforms (human rights remains a sore point between the US and Vietnam, especially with respect to sales of arms) and potential economic retaliation from China. On the other hand, falling in line with China would assure Vietnam that its immediate economic and security concerns would be taken care of; however, the Vietnamese people have yet to openly accept China, viewing their northern neighbor with distrust.

Moreover, Vietnam and China are presently involved in the Spratly and Paracel Islands disputes, which have been a point of contention greater than Vietnam’s reluctance to address its human rights problems. The Vietnamese government has so far been walking a fine line between satisfying China and the US while maintaining Communist rule, but it cannot do so forever.

The United States would like Vietnam to join an organization like the PSO, if only to secure another strategic partner so close to China. Should Vietnam not join the alliance, it would not amount to a catastrophic loss to the US. It would, however, be a grave loss to the PSO. While not possessing the same international clout as Singapore or Indonesia, its relatively young and large labor population would contribute greatly over time, not only to Vietnam, but to Southeast Asian economies. As a member of the PSO, Vietnam would have the ability to develop closer economic ties with its neighbors on a multilateral basis.

That said, Vietnam as is would not be an ideal partner in the PSO, as its treatment of its citizens leaves much to be desired. Not to restrict this concern to Vietnam only, it should be a requirement for all future member states of the PSO to improve conditions at home, so as not to undermine the integrity of the organization. In the case of Vietnam, it must democratize and address its human rights violations. The PSO should not only promote and secure peace and security in Asia-Pacific, but promote better standards of living.

(Khanh Vu Duc is a Vietnamese Canadian lawyer in Ottawa, focusing on various areas of law. He researches on International Relations and International Law)

http://www.asiasentinel.com/index.ph...558&Itemid=213

well said. well said.

Nabartek

June 2nd, 2012, 10:43 AM

d7beast

June 2nd, 2012, 11:52 AM

Gerald R. Ford Build Sequence: Keel-laying to Launch in Under Two Minutes [VIDEO]
q4F_JcFZSU4

http://gcaptain.com/gerald-ford-build-sequence-keel-laying/?46993

o mga pirata, gayahin niyo na ito, step by step pag gawa ng aircraft carrier diba mahilig kayo mangopya???o kailangan pa magnakaw ng blueprint???:ohno:

GreenArcher1985

June 2nd, 2012, 12:46 PM

birds of the same feather flocks together. rogue, murderous, bully states are friends most of the times:lol: northkor, syria, russia, china, who else in the league:lol:

China and Russia has nothing to lose by supporting the Assad Regime. Yes they will be criticized and countries will be upset at them but that's about it. China and Russia, before the uprising began, have had close ties with Syria and have arm's deals with Syria. If they choose to go against Syria they will lose these arm's deals. Even if Syria does end up getting a new government and the regime collapses, China and Russia still wouldn't have lost because a ally like Syria isn't that big of a lost.

GreenArcher1985

June 2nd, 2012, 12:57 PM

I think China wants to prolong the crisis in Syria.. why? So that the world will not shift to the WPS dispute. If the international media will have nothing more to cover on Syria, they will find the WPS dispute interesting

PR PR lang yan :lol:

The Chinese are scared of doing anything to dislodge people in power, perhaps afraid that the winds of change are eventually going to reach Beijing.

Arvor

June 2nd, 2012, 12:58 PM

Leon Panetta: US to deploy 60% of navy fleet to Pacific

The US is planning to move the majority of its warships to the Asia-Pacific region by 2020, Defence Secretary Leon Panetta has revealed.

He said that by 2020 about 60% of the US fleet would be deployed there, in the clearest indication yet of the new US strategy in Asia.

Mr Panetta told a regional security meeting in Singapore that the shift was not aiming to contain Chinese power.

Beijing has indicated it is unhappy with the US boosting its presence.

Last November, President Barack Obama announced that the Asia-Pacific region was a "top priority" of US security policy.

His comments were seen as a challenge to China, which is striving to be the main regional power.

"By 2020, the navy will reposture its forces from today's roughly 50-50% split between the Pacific and the Atlantic to about a 60-40 split between those oceans," Mr Panetta told the annual Shangri-La Dialogue conference.

"That will include six aircraft carriers in this region, a majority of our cruisers, destroyers, combat ships and submarines."

Mr Panetta said the US would aim to increase the number and size of the training exercises it conducts alongside its allies in the region.

He said US budget problems and cut-backs would not stop the changes, adding that the US defence department had money in a five-year budget plan to achieve its goals.

"It will take years for these concepts, and many of the investments we are making, to be fully realised," he said.

"But make no mistake, in a steady, deliberate and sustainable way, the United States military is rebalancing and brings enhanced capabilities to this vital region."

China has long-running territorial disputes with allies of the US, including the Philippines, over island groupings in the South China Sea. In recent years it has grown more assertive on the issue.

An increased US presence in the region is likely to embolden those countries and irritate Beijing.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-18305750
Further reading

Just as i wrote recently the Atlantic is a NATO ocean there are no hostile forces capable of threatening NATO's absolute superiority there so it is only logical to really start concentrating US power in the Asia Pacific region .

wBAfpjf5z2U
In the meantime let's enjoy some rimpac footage

GreenArcher1985

June 2nd, 2012, 01:08 PM

Just as i wrote recently the Atlantic is a NATO ocean there are no hostile forces capable of threatening NATO's absolute superiority there so it is only logical to really start concentrating US power in the Asia Pacific region .

Just how big is the threat at the moment ?

The Chinese don't even have a blue water navy yet.

Arvor

June 2nd, 2012, 01:13 PM

Well it is about maintaining "peace" and "stability" :)

Nabartek

June 2nd, 2012, 01:26 PM

This is interesting

Yo1kLxJRt_w

GreenArcher1985

June 2nd, 2012, 01:41 PM

Well it is about maintaining "peace" and "stability" :)

To defend itself against the overwhelm firepower from the USA and its lackeys, China has to build up matching strength, which itself is threatening. And USA leverages such defensive action as a just cause of “siding the weak” for its ever-increasing aggression against China, and wraps its aggression under the pretension of promoting democracy and human rights.

USA is thousands miles away on the other side of the Pacific Ocean, nobody is threatening USA’s homeland, why does USA have to mass 3 quarters of its armed forces to threaten a nation that supports its life style it cannot make it by itself?

And i dont agree with China's claim to shoal and i don't think China should claim all that's in the South China Sea.

jehyrson

June 2nd, 2012, 02:15 PM

This is interesting

Yo1kLxJRt_w

Well for the commie chinese, they will just say that this is just a western propaganda.

Nabartek

June 2nd, 2012, 02:24 PM

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-NA8n3wIET90/T64yT0NoodI/AAAAAAAADgo/5XoVhC9-O2E/s824/Image+2012-05-12+at+1.05.42+PM.png

It's just funny :lol:

kenken94

June 2nd, 2012, 02:27 PM

^^ Is there something with them pic? I think it's weird too. :D :rofl:

Nabartek

June 2nd, 2012, 02:31 PM

Chinese general and the Pentagon just don't jive well :lol: Sana sa ibang platform nalang sya pinagsalita :lol:

On the other hand: some intermission. Interesting trivia about the 500 peso bill

http://paulgeniusboy.blogspot.com/2012/02/untoldstories-original-500-peso-design.html

Nabartek

June 2nd, 2012, 02:36 PM

Eto yung pooting nagtatagalog dati sa ABS CBN

https://plus.google.com/104100448565632650555/posts

:lol:

Nabartek

June 2nd, 2012, 02:51 PM

eon Panetta: US to deploy 60% of navy fleet to Pacific

The US is planning to move the majority of its warships to the Asia-Pacific region by 2020, Defence Secretary Leon Panetta has revealed.

He said that by 2020 about 60% of the US fleet would be deployed there, in the clearest indication yet of the new US strategy in Asia.

Mr Panetta told a regional security meeting in Singapore that the shift was not aiming to contain Chinese power.

Beijing has indicated it is unhappy with the US boosting its presence.

Last November, President Barack Obama announced that the Asia-Pacific region was a "top priority" of US security policy.

His comments were seen as a challenge to China, which is striving to be the main regional power.

"By 2020, the navy will reposture its forces from today's roughly 50-50% split between the Pacific and the Atlantic to about a 60-40 split between those oceans," Mr Panetta told the annual Shangri-La Dialogue conference.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-18305750

From a business prospective, baka puedeng bentahan ng SanMig mga yan :lol:

Nabartek

June 2nd, 2012, 02:56 PM

“We welcome a constructive role played by the US in the Asia-Pacific, and we hope it will respect interests and concerns of various sides, including China,” he said.

http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=813138&publicationSubCategoryId=63

If there's something that bothers me about the Chinese is that they dont seem consistent with their "press release".

Before, they were slamming just every nation who says that the WPS dispute should be resolved peacefully -- even threatening a country incapable of external defense with "war rhetoric". Now Papa Sugar became bolder, they seem to have been a bit "mellower"

:lol: :lol: :lol:

If it takes a bolder Papa Sugar statement to mellow down the Chinese rhetorics, why not :lol: :lol:

Nabartek

June 2nd, 2012, 03:07 PM

http://www.philstar.com/SubCategory.aspx?publicationSubCategoryId=64&t=5-47-35

Manila, Philippines - A day after the Philippines and China came into an agreement to exercise restraint in addressing the Panatag Shoal (Scarborough) dispute, a Chinese newspaper criticized Manila for its supposed illegal and continued occupation of eight islands and islets belonging to China in the West Philippine Sea (South China Sea).

In its opinion page, China Daily, the mouthpiece of the People’s Liberation Army (PLA), also described the month-long standoff at Panatag Shoal (Huangyan Island) as a ploy by the Philippine government to trick China into recognizing its occupation of the islands and islets including Panatag.

Apart from Panatag Shoal, the Philippines is also laying territorial claim over several islets, shoals, reefs and sandbars in the Spratlys group of islands being claimed in whole by China as part its territorial domain. Vietnam, Malaysia, Brunei and Taiwan are also among the claimant countries.

All but Brunei have forward troops deployed in the region.

“Such efforts, of course, have failed,” declared China Daily opinion page writers and researchers in political studies at Guangdong Ocean University, Gong Jianhua and Zhou Jianyuan.

Defense Secretary Voltaire Gazmin and his Chinese counterpart Liang Guanglie, in a Phnom Penh meeting the other day, have agreed to exercise restraint in issuing damaging statements as well as conducting provocative actions so as not to complicate the prevailing situation in Panatag Shoal.

At the sidelines of the 6th ASEAN Defense Ministers Meeting in Cambodia, both defense chiefs also agreed to keep the line of communications open, which Defense spokesman Peter Paul Galvez said has been active even before the Panatag impasse.

“Of course we don’t want to see this (Panatag standoff) go the other way other than have its peaceful resolution,” Galvez said yesterday.

As of last Thursday, China has deployed seven vessels aside from the eight fishing vessels in Panatag, as against two Philippine civilian vessels that have been in the area on a rotation basis since the standoff started last April 10 when two Chinese vessels prevented the Navy’s flagship BRP Gregorio del Pilar from arresting Chinese fishermen who were caught illegally harvesting corals and giant clams inside the lagoon of the shoal.

“Some countries may try to make use of the three-day Shangri-La Dialogue to once again sensationalize the territorial disputes in the South China Sea between and some of its Southeast Asian neighbors,” China Daily said, in reference to yesterday’s annual security forum organized by the International Institute for Strategic Studies in Singapore.

Defense ministers and military chiefs from 28 Asia-Pacific states, including Gazmin and Liang, are attending the security forum.

China Daily also said western media outlets are predicting China will be “besieged” at the annual security forum due to the South China Sea dispute.

“But will dispute necessarily lead to worsening relations between China and neighboring countries, and the disputes really become a strategic trap on China’s road to a peaceful rise as some like to claim? The answer is no,” the Chinese paper said.

The paper added: “Take China and the Philippines’ month-long standoff at Huangyan Island for example. The Philippines has not only illegally occupied eight islands and isles belonging to China, it has also posed a further challenge by encouraging its fishermen to fish in the waters around Huangyan Island. It has initiated the dispute with China in an attempt to trick China into recognizing its occupation of the islands. Such efforts, of course, have failed.”

China Daily also pointed out Huangyan Island is a natural extension of China’s continental shelf and its rights over the island can be traced back to 1279 when Chinese astronomer Guo Shoujing first surveyed the island; and Chinese fishermen have been known to fish in this area since the Ming Dynasty (1368-1644).

“The Philippines has tried to win the sympathy of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations by proclaiming China a threat, but ASEAN members have seen for themselves how much restraint China has shown during the standoff and how it has continually held out an olive branch to the Philippines,” the Chinese paper said.

While China is very cautious on using military force to solve the dispute, it is ready to defend its territory without abandoning its peaceful rise or pursuing hegemony in the region and defense is not offensive.

“China sticks to a defensive national defense policy, but it will firmly defend its sovereignty and territory to the best of its ability, just as any other country would,” China Daily said.

It added that the South China Sea disputes are a complicated structural problem, as well as a strategic problem.

Some countries, it said, are trying to erode China’s sovereignty by occupying some of its territory in the South China Sea.

“If China does not act firmly, these occupations might become permanent,” it said, as China urged the countries concerned to honor their promises and abide by the Declaration on the Conduct of Parties in the South China Sea.

jehyrson

June 2nd, 2012, 03:07 PM

Also from bloomberge.com

Military Exchanges
The Philippines and the U.S. have stepped up military cooperation and exchanges of high-level visits. Panetta and Clinton met with their Filipino counterparts Voltaire Gazmin and Albert del Rosario in Washington last month.
The U.S. is helping the Philippines draft a long-term military modernization plan that calls for the Pentagon to supply coastal patrol vessels and maritime radar as well as assisting the country in obtaining equipment from U.S. allies in the region, according to U.S. officials who spoke with reporters May 3 on condition of anonymity to discuss diplomatic matters.
Army General Martin Dempsey, chairman of the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff, will visit the Philippines after attending the security conference in Singapore, Panetta said.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-06-02/u-s-navy-s-pacific-presence-to-expand-panetta-says.html

I'm smelling the T-50 Golden Eagle. I just hope maging fruitful ang pagbisita ni Dempsey dito satin

Arvor

June 2nd, 2012, 03:32 PM

USA is thousands miles away on the other side of the Pacific Ocean, nobody is threatening USA’s homeland, why does USA have to mass 3 quarters of its armed forces to threaten a nation that supports its life style it cannot make it by itself?

And i dont agree with China's claim to shoal and i don't think China should claim all that's in the South China Sea.

Well i don't see how these plans threaten China can you perhaps explain how it does ?, as long as China respects international law and principles i don't see any problems so i am a bit perplexed .

doctor joe

June 2nd, 2012, 04:14 PM

US must threatens every nation in this planet or solar system nd even 99 of the world

they know what they are doing, they want democratcy and freedom to all mankind

They don't allow any bully,intrusions,abuse to those tiny or even superpower nations against one another

America lives in history and by history,the only nation that could defeat USA must know 4,000 years of war and peace during pre-moses time to 3,000 years beyond the birth of Jesus

Nabartek

June 2nd, 2012, 04:19 PM

May bangag dito

baklita from PEX, is that you? :lol:

Askal82

June 2nd, 2012, 05:02 PM

http://www.philstar.com/SubCategory.aspx?publicationSubCategoryId=64&t=5-47-35

Mga hangal. :lol:

Askal82

June 2nd, 2012, 05:12 PM

To defend itself against the overwhelm firepower from the USA and its lackeys, China has to build up matching strength, which itself is threatening. And USA leverages such defensive action as a just cause of “siding the weak” for its ever-increasing aggression against China, and wraps its aggression under the pretension of promoting democracy and human rights.

USA is thousands miles away on the other side of the Pacific Ocean, nobody is threatening USA’s homeland, why does USA have to mass 3 quarters of its armed forces to threaten a nation that supports its life style it cannot make it by itself?

Because China could be worse than Iraq as an aggressor if they would be left alone. They don't respect the sovereign rights of the nations according to the international recognized body.

TheAvenger

June 2nd, 2012, 05:45 PM

Because China could be worse than Iraq as an aggressor if they would be left alone. They don't respect the sovereign rights of the nations according to the international recognized body.

Because China is a former Mongoloid colony.... he he he he

TheAvenger

June 2nd, 2012, 05:55 PM

Because China is a former Mongoloid colony.... he he he he

oh error, i mean former colony of Mongolia during the Yuan dynasty when apparently they do fishing in Huangyang - Bajo de Masinloc.

Fishing ???
who would believe that ?? when 2,000 years ago there were abundant fish in China coast. It is unbelievable that they will travel more than 500 miles just to fish in Philippine island.

Askal82

June 2nd, 2012, 06:10 PM

^^ They even claimed to have discovered America before Columbus according to their map na naman (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4609074.stm). :lol: :crazy: :lol:

J3rsqSzdDUM

GreenArcher1985

June 2nd, 2012, 06:13 PM

Well i don't see how these plans threaten China can you perhaps explain how it does ?, as long as China respects international law and principles i don't see any problems so i am a bit perplexed .

we have two nations–one of which is perhaps the oldest in the world and the other which is a relatively young nation–who both seem to have a very notable history of deeming themselves morally, culturally and racially superior to all others on the face of the earth. Both the United States and China have also survived via the forced absorption, exclusion or outright genocide of other people.

in simple terms, you have an unstoppable force (the United States in conventional conflicts) vs an immovable object(China throughout the ages). The two are bound to come to conflict at one point or another, something that i would not wish on anyone, as the ensuing war would result in the loss of millions, perhaps billions, of lives.

Narnian_King

June 2nd, 2012, 06:29 PM

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/526766_10151635266652588_1459794681_n.jpg
CAMP H. M. SMITH, Hawaii (May 24, 2012) - Commander, U.S. Pacific Command, Adm. Samuel Locklear presents Republic of the Philippines Secretary of Foreign Affairs, the Honorable Albert del Rosario a traditional Hawaiian gift at HQPACOM. This is the first official visit here between Adm. Locklear and the Republic of the Philippines Foreign Affairs Secretary. (U.S. Navy Photo by Mass Communication Specialist 1st Class Danny Hayes)

Narnian_King

June 2nd, 2012, 06:40 PM

Disaster Relief - Philippines/ U.S. Pacific Command during Ondoy.

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Crewmembers from Utility Landing Craft 1631 offload US Marine Corps equipment. The LCU is part of the Denver Amphibious Task Group which is supporting humanitarian assistance operations at the request of the government of the Philippines in the wake of Typhoon Ketsana.

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The amphibious dock landing ship USS Tortuga (LSD 46) conducts flight operations in Manila Bay. Tortuga, USS Harpers Ferry and the 31st Marine Expeditionary Unit are supporting humanitarian efforts in the wake of Tropical Storm Ketsana at the request of the Republic of the Philippines.
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kenken94

June 2nd, 2012, 06:49 PM

^^ Aw! Mama America really cares for her spoiled daughter. (not to mock the disaster though, just a point of reference.) :D

Askal82

June 2nd, 2012, 06:56 PM

^^ Aw! Mama America really cares for her spoiled daughter. (not to mock the disaster though, just a point of reference.) :D

You mean yung baby damulag. :lol::lol:

Nabartek

June 2nd, 2012, 06:59 PM

oh error, i mean former colony of Mongolia during the Yuan dynasty when apparently they do fishing in Huangyang - Bajo de Masinloc.

Fishing ???
who would believe that ?? when 2,000 years ago there were abundant fish in China coast. It is unbelievable that they will travel more than 500 miles just to fish in Philippine island.

That given, it is Mongolia who we should be dealing with, not the Sinic lcountry

kenken94

June 2nd, 2012, 07:03 PM

You mean yung baby damulag. :lol::lol:

Ang sakit naman niyang term mo. :D :D :rofl:

Nabartek

June 2nd, 2012, 07:05 PM

^^ Aw! Mama America really cares for her spoiled daughter. (not to mock the disaster though, just a point of reference.) :D

Que dulce, papi

Nabartek

June 2nd, 2012, 07:07 PM

Ang sakit naman niyang term mo. :D :D :rofl:

114 y/o na kasi pero iyakin pa rin :lol:

kenken94

June 2nd, 2012, 07:36 PM

114 y/o na kasi pero iyakin pa rin :lol:

Pano pa kaya kung nangyari talaga yan sa tao ano? Mas damulag pa sau ang lola mo. :rofl:

Askal82

June 2nd, 2012, 07:47 PM

Ang sakit naman niyang term mo. :D :D :rofl:

But to be fair, Philippines is a fairly young nation. Nagkaroon lang tayo ng nationhood noong 1898 lang. I don't count the independence from America in 1946 because Filipinos maintained self determination and self identity by viewing themselves to belong in a nation and not a state or province of others even during the American occupation and Commonwealth period.

China, on the other hand had 5000 years in existence but their current regime which does not really differ from the previous dynasties of in grown culture kept them from maturing in a political point of view. :lol::lol:

El_Toro

June 2nd, 2012, 08:24 PM

kenken94

June 2nd, 2012, 08:26 PM

^^ Bromance? Ayee! hahah! :rofl:

Arvor

June 2nd, 2012, 08:39 PM

The two are bound to come to conflict at one point or another, something that i would not wish on anyone, as the ensuing war would result in the loss of millions, perhaps billions, of lives.

I don't think so it is the lack or diminution of US power in the region in recent years due to the various wars in the middle east against muslim extremism which caused China to believe that it may act beyond international laws and principles, a return of US focus in the region along with other "responsible stakeholders" in the international system would fill the void and keep mischief to a minimum .

I am actually a sinophile when it comes to China's rich cultural heritage and i too am at times weary of US actions when it uses it's power beyond the confines of international law( Illegal Iraq war comes to mind ), but in this case the new administration and the different realities of the region and the state of the world economy would preclude such actions and instead lead to stability through an overwhelming presence .

Lilyr

June 2nd, 2012, 08:39 PM

May bangag dito

baklita from PEX, is that you? :lol:

Okay lang yan. Kaysa naman yung mga nagkukunwari dito na halata namang ampalaya sila pagdating kay Papa:nuts::lol:

Ang sakit naman niyang term mo. :D :D :rofl:

Eh yan lang ang iyakin naman talaga sa lahat ng alaga ni Papa:lol::lol::lol:.

Lilyr

June 2nd, 2012, 08:59 PM

Anong say nyo dito?

China warns US against 'making waves' in disputed sea

China's official news agency warned Saturday it was no time to "make waves" in the disputed South China Sea after the US said it would shift the bulk of its naval fleet to the Pacific Ocean by 2020. (http://my.news.yahoo.com/china-warns-us-against-making-093257293.html)
"It is advisable for some to refrain from muddying the waters and fishing therein," said Xinhua, referring to the sea, which is part of the Pacific and the subject of overlapping territorial claims.
China claims the sea in full, and it is also claimed in whole or part by Taiwan, Brunei, Vietnam, Malaysia and the Philippines.
"As regards the South China Sea tensions, it is some other claimants, whether emboldened by the United States' new posture or not, that sparked the fire and have been stoking the flames," said the agency.
It was Beijing's "genuine wish" to turn the South China Sea "into a sea of peace, friendship and cooperation," added Xinhua, in the commentary entitled "Not to make waves in South China Sea

Takot na ata ang Chicoms:lol::lol::lol:

Narnian_King

June 2nd, 2012, 09:10 PM

^^ They even claimed to have discovered America before Columbus according to their map na naman (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4609074.stm). :lol: :crazy: :lol:

J3rsqSzdDUM

That's a 2006 article regarding a map from 1763 that was supposedly a copy of a 1418 map. This 'map' has since been proven to be a forgery

http://www.e-perimetron.org/Vol_2_4/Wade.pdf

Askal82

June 2nd, 2012, 09:13 PM

Anong say nyo dito?

Takot na ata ang Chicoms:lol::lol::lol:

To hell with them. :lol:

Askal82

June 2nd, 2012, 09:14 PM

That's a 2006 article regarding a map from 1763 that was supposedly a copy of a 1418 map. This 'map' has since been proven to be a forgery

http://www.e-perimetron.org/Vol_2_4/Wade.pdf

Did I read forgery? Galing pakulo ng mga chicoms. :lol:

Nabartek

June 2nd, 2012, 09:25 PM

Anong say nyo dito?

Takot na ata ang Chicoms:lol::lol::lol:

Maya ganyan sila magsalita BUKING na kasi nila. What peace and stability are they saying when they were the ones keeping the war rhetoric alive. Hindi pa sila nagbabasa ng dyaryo nila ? :lol:

Nabartek

June 2nd, 2012, 09:28 PM

If the maps were indeed true, why is there no account in the Americas amongst the natives. If the Europeans can document human sacrific in that area, then Chinese interaction with the natives would have been interesting to the Europeans since Europe at that time were fond of Chinese products esp china and silk

Askal82

June 2nd, 2012, 09:37 PM

Nabartek

June 2nd, 2012, 09:51 PM

Nabili lang sa Divisoria yung mapang yan. Mga Recto university archaeologists ang nakakita nyan. :lol:

Made in the philippines ? :lol:

Askal82

June 2nd, 2012, 09:55 PM

Made in the philippines ? :lol:

Made in China, pero nasmuggle sa Recto. :lol:

Nabartek

June 2nd, 2012, 10:04 PM

Puede :lol:

Lilyr

June 2nd, 2012, 10:26 PM

:naughty: Lookie here!

Canada seeks Singapore hub to support U.S. military Asia 'pivot' towards China (http://news.yahoo.com/canada-seeks-singapore-hub-support-u-military-asia-193107305.html)

[OTTAWA - Canada is seeking a deal with Singapore to establish a military staging post there as part of its effort to support the United States' pivot towards Asia to counter a rising China...

bariQ

June 2nd, 2012, 10:29 PM

oh wow! parang may kumukulong digmaang pandaigdig yata ah! except its china against the world!

Nabartek

June 2nd, 2012, 10:38 PM

:naughty: Lookie here!

The cannadiennes. Hopefully they visit us too. Papa maple leaf? Another potential papa!

Lilyr

June 2nd, 2012, 10:45 PM

The cannadiennes. Hopefully they visit us too. Papa maple leaf? Another potential papa!

Manghihingi rin ng Dede aid ang damulag?:rofl:

Panetta Outlines New Weaponry for Pacific[ (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/02/world/asia/leon-panetta-outlines-new-weaponry-for-pacific.html)

SINGAPORE — Defense Secretary Leon E. Panetta, seeking to persuade a skeptical audience of Asian officials here on Saturday that the United States is committed to enhancing its military presence in the region despite coming budget constraints, unveiled the most detailed inventory to date of planned new weapons for the region..

Sorry, hindi exact disclosure eh:lol:

Askal82

June 2nd, 2012, 10:53 PM

The cannadiennes. Hopefully they visit us too. Papa maple leaf? Another potential papa!

Panibagong papa na naman.

Dyan si Papa Sugar, Papa Ajinomoto, Papa Awwsie, Papa 56 :lol::lol: at ngayon si Papa Maple Leaf. :lol:

Lagot si Uncle. :lol::lol:

3cr

June 2nd, 2012, 11:09 PM

Aba Tsina padami na ng padami na talaga ang kalaban sa mundo ngayon ah. Dami nang kabangga. Pinalitan na ng Tsina ang Russo bilang mukha ng labanang kumunista sa mundo ngayon. Kung dati eh anti-terrorist ngayon balik naman balik ulit sa anti-communist at China naman ang face of the enemy ngayon! hehehe... :lol: :lol: :lol:

3cr

June 2nd, 2012, 11:14 PM

Once quiet China-India power rivalry could get ugly
Manila Times
http://www.manilatimes.net/index.php/opinion/editorials/24159-quiet-china-india-power-rivalry-could-get-ugly

As the world moves into the second decade of the 21st century, a new power rivalry is taking shape between India and China, Asia’s two behemoths in terms of territory, population and richness of

civilization. India’s recent successful launch of a long-range missile able to hit Beijing and Shanghai with nuclear weapons is the latest sign of this development.

This is a rivalry borne completely of high-tech geopolitics, creating a core dichotomy between two powers whose own geographical expansion patterns throughout history have rarely overlapped or interacted with each other. Despite the limited war fought between the two countries on their Himalayan border 50 years ago, this competition has relatively little long-standing historical or ethnic animosity behind it.

The signal geographical fact about Indians and Chinese is that the impassable wall of the Himalayas separates them. Buddhism spread in varying forms from India, via Sri Lanka and Myanmar, to Yunnan in southern China in the third century BC, but this kind of profound cultural interaction was the exception more than the rule.

Moreover, the dispute over the demarcation of their common frontier in the Himalayan foothills, from Kashmir in the west to Arunachal Pradesh in the east, while a source of serious tension in its own right, is not especially the cause of the new rivalry. The cause of the new rivalry is the collapse of distance brought about by the advance of military technology.

Indeed, the theoretical arc of operations of Chinese fighter jets at Tibetan airfields includes India.

Indian space satellites are able to do surveillance on China. In addition, India is able to send warships into the South China Sea, even as China helps develop state-of-the-art ports in the Indian Ocean.

And so, India and China are eyeing each other warily. The whole map of Asia now spreads out in front of defense planners in New Delhi and Beijing, as it becomes apparent that the two nations with the largest populations in the world (even as both are undergoing rapid military buildups) are encroaching upon each other’s spheres of influence — spheres of influence that exist in concrete terms today in a way they did not in an earlier era of technology.

And this is to say nothing of China’s expanding economic reach, which projects Chinese influence throughout the Indian Ocean world, as evinced by Beijing’s port-enhancement projects in Kenya, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and Myanmar. This, too, makes India nervous.

Because this rivalry is geopolitical — based, that is, on the positions of India and China, with their huge populations, on the map of Eurasia — there is little emotion behind it. In that sense, it is comparable to the Cold War ideological contest between the United States and the Soviet Union, which were not especially geographically proximate and had little emotional baggage dividing them.

The rivalry is geopolitical, there is little emotion behind it

The best way to gauge the relatively restrained atmosphere of the India-China rivalry is to compare it to the rivalry between India and Pakistan. India and Pakistan abut one another. India’s highly populated Ganges River Valley is within 480 kilometers (300 miles) of Pakistan’s highly populated Indus River Valley. There is an intimacy to India-Pakistan tensions that simply does not apply to those between India and China. That intimacy is inflamed by a religious element: Pakistan is the modern incarnation of all of the Muslim invasions that have assaulted Hindu northern India throughout history. And then there is the tangled story of the partition of the Asian subcontinent itself to consider — India and Pakistan were both borne in blood together.

Partly because the India-China rivalry carries nothing like this degree of long-standing passion, it serves the interests of the elite policy community in New Delhi very well. A rivalry with China in and of itself raises the stature of India because China is a great power with which India can now be compared. Indian elites hate when India is hyphenated with Pakistan, a poor and semi-chaotic state; they much prefer to be hyphenated with China. Indian elites can be obsessed with China, even as Chinese elites think much less about India. This is normal. In an unequal rivalry, it is the lesser power that always demonstrates the greater degree of obsession. For instance, Greeks have always been more worried about Turks than Turks have been about Greeks.

China’s inherent strength in relation to India is more than just a matter of its greater economic capacity, or its more efficient governmental authority. It is also a matter of its geography. True, ethnic-Han Chinese are virtually surrounded by non-Han minorities — Inner Mongolians, Uighur Turks and Tibetans — in China’s drier uplands. Nevertheless, Beijing has incorporated these minorities into the Chinese state so that internal security is manageable, even as China has in recent years been resolving its frontier disputes with neighboring countries, few of which present a threat to China.

India, on the other hand, is bedeviled by long and insecure borders not only with troubled Pakistan, but also with Nepal and Bangladesh, both of which are weak states that create refugee problems for India. Then there is the Maoist Naxalite insurgency in eastern and central India. The result is that while the Indian navy can contemplate the projection of power in the Indian Ocean — and thus hedge against China — the Indian army is constrained with problems inside the subcontinent itself.

India and China do play a great game of sorts, competing for economic and military influence in Nepal, Bangladesh, Myanmar and Sri Lanka. But these places are generally within the Greater Indian subcontinent, so that China is taking the struggle to India’s backyard.

Just as a crucial test for India remains the future of Afghanistan, a crucial test for China remains the fate of North Korea. Both Afghanistan and North Korea have the capacity to drain energy and resources away from India and China, though here India may have the upper hand because India has no land border with Afghanistan, whereas China has a land border with North Korea. Thus, a chaotic, post-American Afghanistan is less troublesome for India than an unraveling regime in North Korea would be for China, which faces the possibility of millions of refugees streaming into Chinese Manchuria.

India has no legitimacy and aging population problems

Because India’s population will surpass that of China in 2030 or so, even as India’s population will get gray at a slower rate than that of China, India may in relative terms have a brighter future. As inefficient as India’s democratic system is, it does not face a fundamental problem of legitimacy like China’s authoritarian system very well might.

Then there is Tibet. Tibet abuts the Indian subcontinent where India and China are at odds over the Himalayan borderlands. The less control China has over Tibet, the more advantageous the geopolitical situation is for India. The Indians provide a refuge for the Tibetan Dalai Lama.

Anti-Chinese manifestations in Tibet inconvenience China and are therefore convenient to India. Were China ever to face a serious insurrection in Tibet, India’s shadow zone of influence would grow measurably. Thus, while China is clearly the greater power, there are favorable possibilities for India in this rivalry.

India and the United States are not formal allies. The Indian political establishment, with its nationalistic and leftist characteristics, would never allow for that. Yet, merely because of its location astride the Indian Ocean in the heart of maritime Eurasia, the growth of Indian military and economic power benefits the United States since it acts as a counter-balance to a rising Chinese power; the United States never wants to see a power as dominant in the Eastern Hemisphere as it itself is in the Western Hemisphere. That is the silver lining of the India-China rivalry: India balancing against China, and thus relieving the United States of some of the burden of being the world’s dominant power

3cr

June 2nd, 2012, 11:26 PM

Practice what you preach: China urged to be discreet in words, deeds
Journal Online
http://www.journal.com.ph/index.php/news/top-stories/31117-ph-china-urged-to-be-discreet-in-words-deeds

MALACAÑANG yesterday urged China to practice what it preaches on restraint over the continued standoff at the Panatag (Scarborough) Shoal.

Presidential spokesman Edwin Lacierda made the call after a Chinese newspaper criticized Manila for its supposed illegal occupation of islands belonging to China.

“We have exercised restraint and prudence in our statement. It would be good if our Chinese counterparts would also assist Chinese media ... and in the interest of not sowing unneeded tensions between the two countries,” Lacierda said.

Lacierda stressed Philippines has been “prudent from the very start” in order not to escalate the tension in the West Philippine Sea (South China Sea).

The standoff between the Philippines and China started last April after Philippine military forces spotted Chinese fishermen gathering marine species from the area.

The Chinese vessels blocked the path of the Philippine Navy team before making arrests.

Earlier reports quoted an opinion piece on China Daily, claiming that the month-long standoff in the Panatag Shoal was a ploy by the Philippine government to trick China into recognizing its occupation of the islands and islets including the Panatag Shoal.

A news item posted on the Chinese government’s web portal Wednesday quoted Chinese Defense Minister Liang Guanglie, asking the Philippines through her counterpart Voltaire Gazmin to be “discreet in both words and deeds” in resolving the standoff.

Nabartek

June 2nd, 2012, 11:40 PM

^^ basag ang china :lol:

Christian_123

June 2nd, 2012, 11:45 PM

d7beast

June 3rd, 2012, 01:36 AM

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-NA8n3wIET90/T64yT0NoodI/AAAAAAAADgo/5XoVhC9-O2E/s824/Image+2012-05-12+at+1.05.42+PM.png

It's just funny :lol:

aba, sumusobra na tong mga pirata na ito, pati PLA meron naring "PENTAGON"? kinopya narin at pineke na?:lol:

Nabartek

June 3rd, 2012, 01:41 AM

^^ yata ata yang visit ng Chinese general sa US

Ang pangit lang talaga tignan yung pentagon sa likod nya :lol:

d7beast

June 3rd, 2012, 01:46 AM

^^ yata ata yang visit ng Chinese general sa US

Ang pangit lang talaga tignan yung pentagon sa likod nya :lol:

kala ko meron naring sariling PENTAGON ang PLA,..:lol:

Nabartek

June 3rd, 2012, 01:53 AM

^^ Yung "US Army" badge, meron. Can't find the picture...hanapin mo nalang sa archives :lol:

Beam Magnum

June 3rd, 2012, 01:58 AM

US naval fleet to shift towards Pacific

http://www.afp.com/en/news/topstories/us-naval-fleet-shift-towards-pacific

Agreement Calls for 4 U.S. Littoral Combat Ships to Rotate Through Singapore

http://www.defensenews.com/article/20120602/DEFREG03/306020001/Agreement-Calls-4-U-S-Littoral-Combat-Ships-Rotate-Through-Singapore?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|FRONTPAGE

d7beast

June 3rd, 2012, 02:13 AM

^^ Yung "US Army" badge, meron. Can't find the picture...hanapin mo nalang sa archives :lol:

oo nakita ko yun, dnaman kaya photoshopped yun???sobra naman cla pati yung mga uniforms ginagaya na rin,..:lol:

jpdm

June 3rd, 2012, 02:14 AM

jpdm

June 3rd, 2012, 02:21 AM

waketrex

June 3rd, 2012, 02:43 AM

Commercial Break from our friends:
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Askal82

June 3rd, 2012, 03:13 AM

It seems it took only a puny resistance from a puny weak country like the Philippines to embolden other countries to show their despise to the largest Pirate in the world called China.

World power like the US and regional power like India are not stupid not to know the stupidity of China's expansionist move.

Chinese imperialism should be stopped. China is like Nazi Germany using vulgar and barbaric methods of subjugating small weaker countries.

China miscalculated the turn of events that further strengthened Philippines resolve to safeguard its interest. On the other hand, they also fell short on foreseeing how the allies would respond to the US Pivot.

It is not surprising why China had asked the Philippines not to invite the third parties in the Philippine-China territorial disputes. :lol:

Nabartek

June 3rd, 2012, 03:16 AM

^Sayawan sa Japan? :lol: PMA lang katapat nyan :lol:

Lilyr

June 3rd, 2012, 05:09 AM

kenken94

June 3rd, 2012, 06:20 AM

The cannadiennes. Hopefully they visit us too. Papa maple leaf? Another potential papa!

Papa Leaf nalang.

Ba't lahat maliban sa isang Papa natin ay puro mga kanluranin? Ano 'to? :lol: :rofl:

Nabartek

June 3rd, 2012, 06:31 AM

Papa Leaf nalang.

Ba't lahat maliban sa isang Papa natin ay puro mga kanluranin? Ano 'to? :lol: :rofl:

Meron naman si Papa Ajinamoto. Baka makisawsaw na rin si Papa Kim or si Papa 5-6 :lol:

kenken94

June 3rd, 2012, 06:51 AM

^^ Papa Nippon nga ang Japan (nakakatawa kasi masyado yung Ajinomoto pramis! :rofl:)

Ba't puro papa ata trip ng Pinas? Baka hindi ito baby damulag, iba ata ang drama natin. :D :lol: :nuts:

Askal82

June 3rd, 2012, 06:53 AM

^^ Papa Nippon nga ang Japan (nakakatawa kasi masyado yung Ajinomoto pramis! :rofl:)

Ba't puro papa ata trip ng Pinas? Baka hindi ito baby damulag, iba ata ang drama natin. :D :lol: :nuts:

Kasi orphaned nga ang baby damulag

GreenArcher1985

June 3rd, 2012, 09:05 AM

Anong say nyo dito?

Takot na ata ang Chicoms:lol::lol::lol:

Chinese are cowards, they will never engage in war with their equals in power. Their stance will only be for defense, not as an aggressor. They can only be aggressors to countries that are weaker than them to take advantage of like the Philippines.They will not risk to get into war and setback their economic gains to loose much money. Money and wealth is their God. It is more important to them than dignity.

GreenArcher1985

June 3rd, 2012, 09:27 AM

I don't think so it is the lack or diminution of US power in the region in recent years due to the various wars in the middle east against muslim extremism which caused China to believe that it may act beyond international laws and principles, a return of US focus in the region along with other "responsible stakeholders" in the international system would fill the void and keep mischief to a minimum .

I am actually a sinophile when it comes to China's rich cultural heritage and i too am at times weary of US actions when it uses it's power beyond the confines of international law( Illegal Iraq war comes to mind ), but in this case the new administration and the different realities of the region and the state of the world economy would preclude such actions and instead lead to stability through an overwhelming presence .

philippines is a cheap place to base some US forward assets. all it has to do is ride on the fears of the philippines. in return, the US will never support our territorial claims that will conflict with China, Taiwan or any other country useful to the US as well. to think that the US well just come in and solve all our problems is pathetic.

The US govt should know the consequences if China decides not to buy any of the US bonds and sell out all its holding on the US debts instead, the US $ will drop like a hot brick.

Talata.Productions

June 3rd, 2012, 09:30 AM

philippines is a cheap place to base some US forward assets. all it has to do is ride on the fears of the philippines. in return, the US will never support our territorial claims that will conflict with China, Taiwan or any other country useful to the US as well. to think that the US well just come in and solve all our problems is pathetic.

The US govt should know the consequences if China decides not to buy any of the US bonds and sell out all its holding on the US debts instead, the US $ will drop like a hot brick.

Actually the truth is the other way around.

GreenArcher1985

June 3rd, 2012, 09:31 AM

Actually the truth is the other way around.

US investors don't act as a unified force, they are individuals or public companies answerable to share holders, not the government interest. On the order hand, Chinese government holds 1.17 trillion dollars of treasury bond. If they dump the bond, the yield will go through the roof and USD will collapse.

ECONOMICS WILL BE THEIR FIRST STRIKE WEAPON

Talata.Productions

June 3rd, 2012, 09:38 AM

US investors don't act as a unified force, they are individuals or public companies answerable to share holders, not the government interest. On the order hand, Chinese government holds 1.17 trillion dollars of treasury bond. If they dump the bond, the yield will go through the roof and USD will collapse.

Not really, majority of those bonds are hold by US citizens themselves, 1.17 out of 15(? can't remember the exact numbers) trillion is just a small percent. On the other hand, US investors don't act as unified force, yes, because they just hunt which shit hole is more cheaper than the other they just manufacture there then shifts their products back home, once their government place ridiculous sanctions against a certain country you'll see those corporations flying like migrating birds either towards Africa or other shit holes that they could pillage.

GreenArcher1985

June 3rd, 2012, 09:44 AM

Not really, majority of those bonds are hold by US citizens themselves, 1.17 out of 15(? can't remember the exact numbers) trillion is just a small percent. On the other hand, US investors don't act as unified force, yes, because they just hunt which shit hole is more cheaper than the other they just manufacture there then shifts their products back home, once their government place ridiculous sanctions against a certain country you'll see those corporations flying like migrating birds either towards Africa or other shit holes that they could pillage.

Let's be realistic and be practical. The US only considers Israel as its only realiable ally because of the 0.01% filthy rich american jews, who spend millions to bribe the US congress and the senate to lobby the US govt's support. What will the US benefit from the Philippines by siding her to antagonise its largest creditor, who will not help when US needs future financial assistance?.:?:?

China is the biggest lender to US, more than Trillions of dollars.. If Chinese pulls out it`s money from America, US will collapse within a week and a few months later it`s economy, peoples and military will have to slowdown... till it grind to a halt.

GreenArcher1985

June 3rd, 2012, 09:52 AM

Yre

June 3rd, 2012, 09:56 AM

Talata.Productions

June 3rd, 2012, 09:59 AM

Let's be realistic and be practical. The US only considers Israel as its only realiable ally because of the 0.01% filthy rich american jews, who spend millions to bribe the US congress and the senate to lobby the US govt's support. What will the US benefit from the Philippines by siding her to antagonise its largest creditor, who will not help when US needs future financial assistance?.:?:?

That was exactly the point, the US doesn't want to pay debt. :lol:Isn't that funny? They won't gain much just a portion of their debt "written off" plus additional monies that they would gain by penalizing the aggressor, like germany after WW2. :lol:

Besides I just always felt that the US just want to make an opening against China because they know that China has "Potential" to be bigger than them, because they have a large population and IS a single country, you probably get the idea on what's going to happen aight? I think they think that it's better for them to distribute their Economic power on multiple small countries than to a single large one that could eventually turn to be an economic powerhouse.

Now, the problem with China is it barks at it's best Allies, LMAO, I actually admired that 10% of us flips are Chinese, shows how much diverse we are, but with what they are doing right now it's fucking painful to even just look at those numbers. Remember the cold war? How USSR and US achieve being the Dominant power in the world? The US and USSR didn't achieve that by being the largest economies nor by being the most powerful military, they reached those because they helped build reliable allies. China's "Super Power" status is still far fetch and is slipping a step away every time they harass an individual country.

Yre

June 3rd, 2012, 10:04 AM

Alinghi

June 3rd, 2012, 10:07 AM

I hope one day Philippines overall military modernisation would be the core interest of the government to protect both the people and the state.
We should stand Philippines is a country not a state or territory of one's country

it is now a core policy of this administration.. but certainly, it should never replace education and social welfare as the primary focus of our resources.. not unless if we are actually involved in a war

GreenArcher1985

June 3rd, 2012, 10:13 AM

That was exactly the point, the US doesn't want to pay debt. :lol:Isn't that funny? They won't gain much just a portion of their debt "written off" plus additional monies that they would gain by penalizing the aggressor, like germany after WW2. :lol:

Besides I just always felt that the US just want to make an opening against China because they know that China has "Potential" to be bigger than them, because they have a large population and IS a single country, you probably get the idea on what's going to happen aight? I think they think that it's better for them to distribute their Economic power on multiple small countries than to a single large one that could eventually turn to be an economic powerhouse.

Now, the problem with China is it barks at it's best Allies, LMAO, I actually admired that 10% of us flips are Chinese, shows how much diverse we are, but with what they are doing right now it's fucking painful to even just look at those numbers. Remember the cold war? How USSR and US achieve being the Dominant power in the world? The US and USSR didn't achieve that by being the largest economies nor by being the most powerful military, they reached those because they helped build reliable allies. China's "Super Power" status is still far fetch and is slipping a step away every time they harass an individual country.

That was exactly the point, the US doesn't want to pay debt. Isn't that funny? They won't gain much just a portion of their debt "written off" plus additional monies that they would gain by penalizing the aggressor, like germany after WW2.

Besides I just always felt that the US just want to make an opening against China because they know that China has "Potential" to be bigger than them, because they have a large population and IS a single country, you probably get the idea on what's going to happen aight? I think they think that it's better for them to distribute their Economic power on multiple small countries than to a single large one that could eventually turn to be an economic powerhouse.
Destroying china = Debt free USA

Now, the problem with China is it barks at it's best Allies, LMAO, I actually admired that 10% of us flips are Chinese, shows how much diverse we are, but with what they are doing right now it's fucking painful to even just look at those numbers. Remember the cold war? How USSR and US achieve being the Dominant power in the world? The US and USSR didn't achieve that by being the largest economies nor by being the most powerful military, they reached those because they helped build reliable allies. China's "Super Power" status is still far fetch and is slipping a step away every time they harass an individual country.
China can never be a superpower. If she engage in war with any nation, her own millions of oppressed people will see the opportunity to turn against her.