^Tenix ship of Australian descent perhaps.

Not sure, but it could be because of budget. Baseball caps might be cheaper.

If you noticed most security guards around The Philippines they wear the traditional police style hats. I think the manufacture of these hats cost the same as the baseball caps.

Besides the traditional police hats looks more respected than the baseball caps.

On the other hand, HK police are also adapting the baseball cap as well.
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its not an lst type of ship eh....i will post the pics:

eto:

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That's a Tenix Boat
SAR 3501 Ilocos Norte
With your permission I'll cross post it to Timawa

http://timawa.net/forum/index.php/topic,10923.15.html

They've been wanting pictures of the each boat and so far have only Nueva Vizcaya and Romblon!

Some Specs on the boat which I posted on PDff.sytes.net

BRP Nueva Vizcaya (AU-3502) sister ship of Ilocos Norte

Main Characteristics
Length (over all) 36.2meters
Speed 21 knots
Length (hull) 33.7 meters
Length (waterline) 30.9 meters
Beam 7.3 meters
Displacement 115 tons
Accommodation 20
Gross tonnage 208 tons
Range (at 21 knots) 200 NM
Range (at 12 knots) 800 NM

Propulsion:
2x3508 Caterpillar engines rated 1044kWat 1800 rpm
2x3304 Caterpillar engines rated 64ekWat 60Hz

Two Caterpillar Diesel Engines:
4621 Driving Two CPP Propellers

LIFE SAVING EQUIPMENT:
SOLAS Liferaft 2x 16 persons
Rescue boat 1x4.5 rigid inflatable boat

Satellite communication:
GMDSS carriage Furuno F8 system

Made in Australia by Tenix (Tenix is now sold to BAE). Good Boats. We have options on 10 more of these boats am not sure how these will work out now. They have big sisters too. 57 meter ships.

kainggit yung russina weapons na ginagamit sa georgia,,, wohoo

its not an lst type of ship eh....i will post the pics:

eto:



Indeed.

BTW:
NCotabato town fears renewed war
08/14/2008 | 08:48 AM
http://www.gmanews.tv/video/27168/NCotabato-town-fears-renewed-war

Philippines #01 - News : fighting and elections - 11.08.2008
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Philippines #02 - News : fighting in the South - 12.08.2008
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MI vs RP troops
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san ba yung thread sa milf.

mga hayop na mga yun, nung nde nangyari yung treaty, pinagpapatay nila yung mga mamamayan nung banda sa armm o kaya naman pinagsusunog yung mga bahay o kaya pinagbobomba. gusto ng milf pantay daw ang labanan, mata sa mata, sundalo to sundalo, dapat sa kanila rin pagpuputulin ang mga ulo, ayun ang pantay sa kanila at para matuto na walang sumanib na muslim sa milf

More footages & other video coverage ofmindanao crisis:

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Mindanao Crisis
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Philippine military in Simba tanks enter a village for clearing operations in Aleosan town of North Cotabato province, 930 kilometres south of Manila, Philippines 13 August 2008. Philippine troops began clearing villages occupied by separatist rebels of the Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF) after three days of fighting that displaced nearly 160,000 people, a regional military spokesman said

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Armed rebels from the Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF) patrol Camp Darapanan, their base in Maguindanao province, southern Philippines on 13 August 2008. Philippine government troops began clearing villages occupied by MILF rebels in neighbouring North Cotabato province, 930 kilometres south of Manila, after three days of fighting that displaced nearly 160,000 people, a regional military spokesman said.

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Heavily armed Philippine Army soldiers arrive in Lapayan village in Kauswagan town, Lanao del Norte province on August 18, 2008 after a raid by Muslim separatist rebels. At least 28 civilians and three soldiers were killed in a fresh wave of attacks by Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF) in southern Philippines, looting businesses, burning homes and randomly attacking the mostly Christian villagers, officials said.

The responding soldiers are usually from 1st Infantry Division of Philippine Army, based on the patches worn by the soldiers on the picture. (That's in Lanao)

Soldiers, cops in Metro on full alert vs MILF attacks

THE Armed Forces of the Philippines (AFP) and the Philippine National Police (PNP) have raised alert in Metro Manila in response to possible attacks that the Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF) may stage in the face of the ongoing conflict in Mindanao.

Policemen assigned at the National Capital Region (NCR) went on a full alert status starting Tuesday morning as a precaution to possible activities of the MILF in the metropolis, said National Capital Region Police Office (NCRPO) Chief Geary Barias.

"This is just our precautionary measure. We will also be conducting checkpoints," said Barias.

For its part, the military's National Capital Region Command (NCRcom) declared red alert effective Monday night.

"We are implementing this security measure in view of the ongoing offensives in Mindanao. We have ready forces in case it escalates in Metro Manila," said NCRcom spokesman Carlo Ferrer.

However, Ferrer said there was no need to augment troops under the NCRcom at the moment, adding that they have sufficient number of soldiers to respond to the potential threat.

"But we will implement stricter security measures at seaports and airports, and we will intensify our intelligence gathering. Historically, that is what they are doing (stage attacks) whenever there is fighting in Mindanao. They do this to prevent concentration of troops there (in Mindanao). Historically that is true," he said.

Full story (http://www.sunstar.com.ph/static/man/2008/08/20/news/soldiers.cops.in.metro.on.full.alert.vs.milf.attacks.html)

Teka mag-commercial muna tayo:

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More on Mindanao Crisis:

QTV: Security tightened in Iligan City
08/19/2008 | 12:31 PM
http://www.gmanews.tv/video/27400/QTV-Security-tightened-in-Iligan-City

Saksi: Number of deaths in MILF attacks in Lanao Norte rising
08/19/2008 | 11:31 PM
http://www.gmanews.tv/largevideo/related/27437/-Saksi--Number-of-deaths-in-MILF-attacks-in-Lanao-Norte-rising

Meanwhile i wonder who ambushed this rebel leader:

Saksi: Notorious MILF commander wounded in ambush - AFP
08/19/2008 | 11:23 PM
http://www.gmanews.tv/largevideo/related/27434/-Saksi--Notorious-MILF-commander-wounded-in-ambush---AFP

Saksi: Attack on Kolambugan leaves 8 dead, many homeless
08/19/2008 | 11:26 PM
http://www.gmanews.tv/largevideo/related/27436/-Saksi--Attack-on-Kolambugan-leaves-8-dead-many-homeless

Commercial ulit:

Newly found video tribute for our AFP:
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A video compilation by EVEN DE MATA:
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More news:
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It should be an all out war against those rebels. No need to make a deal with them anymore.

Where are the human rights activists & CHR this time?

Where are the human rights activists & CHR this time?

TAMA NGAYON CLA NGUMANG-NGAK...!! sabagay..parehas lang naman sila..Bat nga naman nila ka2mpihan ang gobyerno..tsk tsk tsk..

Sana di lang taung 2 ang gani2..!! pansinin nyo mas malala ang problema ng bansan NAMIN dahil sa mga taong 2lad nyo..!!

tama nga cnavi ni Evang. Wilde E. Almeda...!!

Communism is Satanism..!! we love the communist..but we hate their ideology..!!

Asan ang puso nyo..!!?

Check this news:

http://www.gmanews.tv/largevideo/latest/27487/-Saksi--Criticisms-over-AFP's-delayed-response-irk-B/Gen-Supnet

Si general, napaiyak dahil sa criticism.

I remember this..

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Kasalanan ito ng gobyerno natin kung bakit kasi isinauli pa nila yung mga MILF camps na na-captured ng government troops noong 2000 war, where they (AFP) also lost more than 200 souls for freedom...!

I remember this..

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pasalamat yung kumander ng mga marines nayan at walang rpg ang mga rebelde nun... palpak yang formation nayan, kalokohan....

TAMA NGAYON CLA NGUMANG-NGAK...!! sabagay..parehas lang naman sila..Bat nga naman nila ka2mpihan ang gobyerno..tsk tsk tsk..

Sana di lang taung 2 ang gani2..!! pansinin nyo mas malala ang problema ng bansan NAMIN dahil sa mga taong 2lad nyo..!!

tama nga cnavi ni Evang. Wilde E. Almeda...!!

Communism is Satanism..!! we love the communist..but we hate their ideology..!!

Asan ang puso nyo..!!?

I'm glad the CHR finally defended the troops and the people in Mindanao. I'm glad to hear Atty. De Lima say that the MILF committed violations against human rights. I hope the CHR fulfills what it said that it may file complaints against the MILF not only in the civil courts but also to the Orzanization of Islamic Countries. The MILF are hiding behind the so-called teachings of Allah. I hope they realize that their Christian brothers are humans too and that Allah does not permit killing.

http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm62/DaDiff51/motivational%20posters/teamwork2.jpgpasalamat yung kumander ng mga marines nayan at walang rpg ang mga rebelde nun... palpak yang formation nayan, kalokohan....

A Colt’s M203 Grenade Launcher, will scatter this kind of formation. :lol:

I'm glad the CHR finally defended the troops and the people in Mindanao. I'm glad to hear Atty. De Lima say that the MILF committed violations against human rights. I hope the CHR fulfills what it said that it may file complaints against the MILF not only in the civil courts but also to the Orzanization of Islamic Countries. The MILF are hiding behind the so-called teachings of Allah. I hope they realize that their Christian brothers are humans too and that Allah does not permit killing.

I was actually surprised that the CHR finally said something to the effect that the rebels are in violation of other people's human rights. At least, the CHR admitted in this instance that indeed, rebels could also commit, and in most times, committing human rights violation when they assert their rights.

The military is there to defend the people and the State, not the other way around. It has been a practice for CHR to recognize the role of rebels in asserting their rights. It does not deal with too many atrocities that the rebel groups have done. Maybe because it is too obvious not to see that the rebels are abusing their rights when they killed innocent children and women when they attacked towns in Lanao Del Norte, the CHR was prompted to say those things.

Cost of War (http://www.gmanews.tv/video/27523/The-high-cost-of-war-in-Mindanao):
1. MG .50cal. = 30.20/bullet
2. Mortar 81mm = 8,515/round
3. Howitzer 105mm rounds = 31,228/pc
4. Bomb 250pounds = 212,000/pc

Cost of War (http://www.gmanews.tv/video/27523/The-high-cost-of-war-in-Mindanao):
1. MG .50cal. = 30.20/bullet
2. Mortar 81mm = 8,515/round
3. Howitzer 105mm rounds = 31,228/pc
4. Bomb 250pounds = 212,000/pc


That's the sad state fact about our country, wasting our taxpayer's money against our fellow filipinos, when the situation can be resolved by an all-out diplomatic approach instead of military solution from both sides. But what can we do, it's part of our life and it's part of having an armed forces, as the cost of maintenance is always there. The truth is, there is no such a perfect world.

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Soldiers patrol the main street of Lanao del Norte, southern Philippines August 19, 2008. The Philippine military chief vowed on Tuesday to chase down Muslim rebels who attacked two towns in the south, saying the time to give peace a chance was now over.

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A motorized tricycle with passengers passes by an armored personnel carrier parking along the highway Wednesday, Aug. 20, 2008 in Kolambugan in southern Philippines as evacuees are returning to their homes now after being assured of security from the military. The military was walking in a tightrope, ordered to pursue Muslim rebels blamed for a spate of attacks without jeopardizing an increasingly fragile peace process.

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Philippines policemen take defensive positions beside a road in Linamon, Lanao del Norte province on August 19, 2008, as government troops stepped up a manhunt for the Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF) guerrillas after a murderous rampage in the southern Philippines that left 38 people dead and threw peace negotiations into chaos. The fresh wave of simultaneous attacks by MILF rebels in several towns, looting businesses, burning homes, randomly attacking the mostly Christian villagers and nearly 10,000 displaced by the fighting.

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Heavily armed combat troops patrol a village in Kauswagan town in Lanao del Norte province on August 19, 2008 as government troops stepped up a manhunt for Muslim rebels belonging to the Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF?) following an attack on the town and other Christian areas in this southern Philippines province

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A Philippine Army soldier arrests Miguelito Maglangit, (R) the alleged guide of Muslim rebels during the attack on the town, in Kauswagan town on August 19, 2008.

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31 Members of the Moro Islamic Liberation Front who surrendered to the militaryare now inside a camp under a close watch of armed police after they were presented to the media Thursday, Aug. 21, 2008 in Iligan City in southern Philippines. The group allegedly belonging to Commander Bravo who rampaged in two towns last Monday, surrendered after refusing orders to kill civilians. The government demanded the surrender of two Muslim guerilla commanders blamed for attacks that killed dozens of people

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‘A gallant officer whose death would not be in vain’ (http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/regions/view/20080823-156419/A-gallant-officer-whose-death-would-not-be-in-vain)

ILOILO CITY, Philippines—The way he lived is the way he will be remembered.

Visitors stream in continuously to view the remains of the fallen officer in the white casket flanked by an honor guard.

The modest home is filled with flowers of various colors, sizes and shapes strung with messages of sympathy from President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo, government officials, military officers and friends.

Lieutenant Colonel Angel Benitez’s death and heroism have brought grief, and pride, to the simple home in the village of Tabuc Suba, Jaro District, Iloilo City.

“We grieve for the loss of a very professional and competent officer,” said Armed Forces Chief of Staff General Alexander Yano at the wake on Thursday.

“His death is a great loss to the armed forces and the government but I know he did not die in vain. We are continuing what he fought for,” Yano said.

Benitez, 40, executive officer of the Army’s 102nd Brigade, was killed along with two soldiers when they were ambushed by Moro Islamic Liberation Front rebels in Lanao del Norte on Aug. 18.

He was posthumously awarded the Distinguished Conduct Star on Wednesday for bravery and gallantry in action for holding his ground after he and his men shot it out with hundreds of MILF rebels while continuously texting their location to their superiors.

It was a tragic but not surprising end for an officer who dedicated 18 years of his life to the military.

Benitez’s career took off after graduation from the Philippine Military Academy in 1990. He topped the Scout Ranger and military intelligence and psychological-operations courses he took.

Recently, he graduated at the top of his class from the General Staff College (GSC) after taking a course required for promotion to full colonel and to command a battalion.

Benitez, who was commander of various infantry and intelligence units, had also won several awards and medals including the Bronze Cross and Military Merit Medal.

Maj. Dennis Pacis, a classmate at the PMA, said officers and troops who were under Benitez were all praises for the officer.

“He got along well with his troops and led them in achieving their work and mission,” said Pacis, a member of the staff of the Army’s 301st Brigade based in Dingle, Iloilo.

“He was the perfect soldier,” said his widow Maria Elena or “Cookie.”

But despite his achievements and stature, Benitez remained unassuming and lived a simple life.

“He was so frugal and did not want any extravagance,” said Cookie.

She said she opted to hold her husband’s wake at their home instead of a more spacious funeral parlor because that was what he would have wanted.

“He always encouraged us and trained the children to only spend for the essentials and not for what they want,” said Cookie.

Benitez would only buy new school shoes for their children when the old ones could not be worn anymore.

“He told our kids that shoes did not make students excel or do good in school but hard work and intelligence did,” said Cookie.

He also stressed the importance of preparing for the future.

Their four children aged 9 to 15 have bank accounts into which they deposit savings from their allowance and birthday money.

The couple had also invested in a property from his savings after he was assigned to a peacekeeping force in Sudan in 2006.

Despite his frugality, Benitez made sure to fulfill promises he made to the children like a treat to a fast food restaurant or swimming at a resort.

“He did not want to break the trust of our children so he would make sure to fulfill whatever commitment he made,” said Cookie.

“I am happy and proud that he has not been involved in any irregularities in his long years in the service,” she added.

merun nawawalang c-130 somehwere sa luzon, saw it sa unang hirit... c-130... NAWAWALA?

^^ :ohno: VVV

PAF's C-130 plane reported missing
08/26/2008 | 07:16 AM

(Updated 8:10 a.m.) MANILA, Philippines - A C-130 plane of the Philippine Air Force (PAF) with nine people on board has been reported missing and feared to have crashed, officials said Tuesday.

Air Force chief Lt. Gen. Pedrito Cadungog said the C-130 aircraft left Davao International Airport about 8:50 p.m. Monday to pick up personnel from the Presidential Security Group (PSG) in Ilolilo City and bring them back to Manila.

The aircraft had two pilots and seven crewmen, Cadungog said, adding that the plane was expected to have arrived in Iloilo about 10 p.m. Monday.

"We lost contact with the plane 10 minutes after take off. The aircraft most probably crashed...we are concentrating our search within a 20-mile radius in Davao City. Several aircraft are also involved in the search," Cadungog said.

The Air Force chief said coordination has also been made with the Philippine Navy and the Philippine Coast Guard in connection with the search and rescue operations. - GMANews.TV (http://www.gmanews.tv/story/116062/PAFs-C-130-plane-reported-missing)

^^ Bad weather might be the cause. The PAF only have 2 of these C-130s. Talaga din namang malas, last year ata yung nawalang trainer plane near Pagasa Islands was never found.

Na-weirduhan nga din talaga ako sa pagkawala nung c-130 nating isa. I mean, anlaking eroplano naman kasi ng C-130 para bigla lang mawala sa ere diba? Maaari ngang nagcrash ito ngunit nakakapagtaka na ito ay hindi nakapagcommunicate sa ground.

Sana matagpuan ang eroplanong ito nang maensure din ang kaligatasan ng mga sakay. Imposible kasing bigla na lang mawala ito ng ganun-ganun lang.

Davao residents report seeing ‘something big’ crash into sea
08/26/2008 | 10:37 AM

MANILA , Philippines – In the heels of a military C-130 plane gone missing, two residents of a coastal village in Davao City on Tuesday reported seeing “a huge object" crash into the Davao Gulf but did not confirm it was an aircraft.

In an interview with dzBB, Robert Olan-Olan, village chairman of Brgy. Bucana, said that one resident and one fisherman claimed to have seen the crash incident on Monday night.

“So far, dalawang tao ang nag-confirm ngayon. Yung isa, ilang meters nandoon siya kung saan bumagsak, at saka yung isang mangingisda na taga rito sa amin. Sabi na may nakita doon sa laot (So far, two have already reported the information. One of them claimed being only meters away from the crash site, while a fisherman claimed seeing something in the deep sea)," Olan-Olan said.

"Di na-recognize ng tao dahil umuulan (Many could not recognize it because it was raining)," he added.

As of posting time, search-and-rescue choppers from the Philippine Air Force (PAF) are verifying the information from the witnesses by taking them to the reported crash site.

In the interview, Olan-Olan said based on the residents' reports, debris were found on the surface of the Davao Gulf. “Bumagsak sa hulihan ng isda, sa dinadaanan ng barko ... Malalim, di namin makita kung may lumulutang, wala kaming makita (The plane supposedly fell into the water, but it was too deep. We could not see if anything was floating)," he said.

Olan-Olan said local police rushed to the area to check the reported sighting. But he said many residents could not be sure if it was the plane that crashed because it was raining Monday night.

He added that more authorities arrived in the area to verify the claims that the plane crashed there.

“Andito ang Philippine National Police City director namin and yung station commander at saka yung mga Air Force, nandito lahat (The city police director is here, the station commander and those from the Air Force. They are all here)," Olan-Olan said.

He added that local officials and policemen are also helping out in the Air Force’s rescue operations. - Sophia Dedace, GMANews.TV (http://www.gmanews.tv/story/116095/Davao-residents-report-seeing-something-big-crash-into-sea)

^^ ilan nga pala ang C-130 ng Air Force natin??

^^ dalawa, per @bitoy sa post#495 :)

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Photo taken from this site (http://www.topnews.in/philippine-air-force-c-130-missing-feared-have-crashed-261809)

^^ :lol: my mistake...(:ohno:)

Davao residents report seeing ‘something big’ crash into sea
08/26/2008 | 10:37 AM

MANILA , Philippines – In the heels of a military C-130 plane gone missing, two residents of a coastal village in Davao City on Tuesday reported seeing “a huge object" crash into the Davao Gulf but did not confirm it was an aircraft.

In an interview with dzBB, Robert Olan-Olan, village chairman of Brgy. Bucana, said that one resident and one fisherman claimed to have seen the crash incident on Monday night.

“So far, dalawang tao ang nag-confirm ngayon. Yung isa, ilang meters nandoon siya kung saan bumagsak, at saka yung isang mangingisda na taga rito sa amin. Sabi na may nakita doon sa laot (So far, two have already reported the information. One of them claimed being only meters away from the crash site, while a fisherman claimed seeing something in the deep sea)," Olan-Olan said.

"Di na-recognize ng tao dahil umuulan (Many could not recognize it because it was raining)," he added.

As of posting time, search-and-rescue choppers from the Philippine Air Force (PAF) are verifying the information from the witnesses by taking them to the reported crash site.

In the interview, Olan-Olan said based on the residents' reports, debris were found on the surface of the Davao Gulf. “Bumagsak sa hulihan ng isda, sa dinadaanan ng barko ... Malalim, di namin makita kung may lumulutang, wala kaming makita (The plane supposedly fell into the water, but it was too deep. We could not see if anything was floating)," he said.

Olan-Olan said local police rushed to the area to check the reported sighting. But he said many residents could not be sure if it was the plane that crashed because it was raining Monday night.

He added that more authorities arrived in the area to verify the claims that the plane crashed there.

“Andito ang Philippine National Police City director namin and yung station commander at saka yung mga Air Force, nandito lahat (The city police director is here, the station commander and those from the Air Force. They are all here)," Olan-Olan said.

He added that local officials and policemen are also helping out in the Air Force’s rescue operations. - Sophia Dedace, GMANews.TV (http://www.gmanews.tv/story/116095/Davao-residents-report-seeing-something-big-crash-into-sea)


confirmed na po ito. just now lang talaga. all dead..2 pilots, 2 officials and 7 soldiers. may their souls rest in peace.

^^ eto 12:08pm (PST) inilabas...

US helping out in search for missing C-130 aircraft (http://www.gmanews.tv/story/116117/US-helping-out-in-search-for-missing-C-130-aircraft)
08/26/2008 | 12:08 PM

MANILA, Philippines – The United States has extended its assistance in search and rescue operations to locate the missing Philippine Air Force (PAF) plane which is feared to have crashed in the Davao Gulf.

In a press conference, PAF chief Lt. Gen. Pedrito Cadungog said a US long-range patrol aircraft has joined other air and sea assets deployed by the local military and Coast Guard to search for the missing C-130 aircraft.

“They (the US ) are now helping us in the search operations. By this time, one of their long range patrol aircraft is already helping us," Cadungog said.

The C-130 aircraft left Davao International Airport about 8:50 p.m. Monday to pick up Presidential Security Group (PSG) personnel in Ilolilo City and bring them back to Manila.

Authorities, however, lost contact with the place 10 minutes after take off and later declared the aircraft missing. Officials earlier said that the plane likely crashed, adding that search and rescue efforts are currently focused within a 20-mile radius of Davao City.

In the press conference, Cadungog said that authorities are still baffled by the aircraft's disappearance because the C-130 is manned by seasoned pilots and because the plane was recently installed with a new engine and an auxiliary power unit last August 15.

“Yan ang pinagtatakahan namin kasi we could not think on some lapses on the part of the pilot that they were not able to control the aircraft," Cadungog said.

“We could not think of the possibility that the pilot could not correct at that particular time, especially that it was only a lost of radio contact or probably electrical failure, so these are very normal occurrences that we can even fly to the next destination even without contact on the ground," Cadungog said.

He added that this is the first time the incident happened to the PAF.

“It is very unusual why we cannot find any trace up to now. We have not actually experienced this kind of an incident or accident," he said.

Cadungog also said that the PAF is “really praying hard" that those onboard the plane are still alive and safe.

“It (will be) so hard for us to accept the fact that our comrades are gone although we are always ready to sacrifice our lives for country, for God and people," Cadungog said.

Authorities identified the aircraft’s pilot as Major Manuel Sambrano, and his co-pilot as Captain Adrian de Dios, a graduate of the Philippine Military Academy Class 1999.

The crew members include:

• Flight technical sergeant Constantino Lobregat ,
• Staff Sergeant John Arriola,
• Staff Sergeant Gerry Delioso,
• Staff Sergeant Felix Pedro Patriarga,
• Staff Sergeant Petronilo Fernandez,
• Staff Sergeant Patricio Claur Jr, and
• Staff Sergeant Aldrin Ilustrisimo.

- Sophia Dedace, GMANews.TV

If all the officials and personnel aboard the plane indeed died, I pray that their souls rest in peace. This is really a saddening event. The pilot, Maj. Zambrano, has just been awarded Field Grade Officer of the Year just last month during the anniversary of the Philippine Air Force. It's also a material loss on the part of the PAF for one of our only two C-130's went down. How will our troops be transported now when a large number is needed as augmentation for battle? Haay. Let's pray for our soldiers.

^^ The PAF is still at a loss on how the C130 plane was lost without any trace whatsoever. It was only today when they found some debris and confirmed the report that the C-130 plane crashed somewhere in the Southern Sea as per the news.

The military is still hoping some, if not all, survived from the incident. I do hope it as well. After all, we could not afford to lose soldiers just like that. They still have to defend the people and the State from the advances of the rebels and terrorist groups.

^^ eto 12:08pm (PST) inilabas...

US helping out in search for missing C-130 aircraft (http://www.gmanews.tv/story/116117/US-helping-out-in-search-for-missing-C-130-aircraft)
08/26/2008 | 12:08 PM

MANILA, Philippines – The United States has extended its assistance in search and rescue operations to locate the missing Philippine Air Force (PAF) plane which is feared to have crashed in the Davao Gulf.

In a press conference, PAF chief Lt. Gen. Pedrito Cadungog said a US long-range patrol aircraft has joined other air and sea assets deployed by the local military and Coast Guard to search for the missing C-130 aircraft.

“They (the US ) are now helping us in the search operations. By this time, one of their long range patrol aircraft is already helping us," Cadungog said.

The C-130 aircraft left Davao International Airport about 8:50 p.m. Monday to pick up Presidential Security Group (PSG) personnel in Ilolilo City and bring them back to Manila.

Authorities, however, lost contact with the place 10 minutes after take off and later declared the aircraft missing. Officials earlier said that the plane likely crashed, adding that search and rescue efforts are currently focused within a 20-mile radius of Davao City.

In the press conference, Cadungog said that authorities are still baffled by the aircraft's disappearance because the C-130 is manned by seasoned pilots and because the plane was recently installed with a new engine and an auxiliary power unit last August 15.

“Yan ang pinagtatakahan namin kasi we could not think on some lapses on the part of the pilot that they were not able to control the aircraft," Cadungog said.

“We could not think of the possibility that the pilot could not correct at that particular time, especially that it was only a lost of radio contact or probably electrical failure, so these are very normal occurrences that we can even fly to the next destination even without contact on the ground," Cadungog said.

He added that this is the first time the incident happened to the PAF.

“It is very unusual why we cannot find any trace up to now. We have not actually experienced this kind of an incident or accident," he said.

Cadungog also said that the PAF is “really praying hard" that those onboard the plane are still alive and safe.

“It (will be) so hard for us to accept the fact that our comrades are gone although we are always ready to sacrifice our lives for country, for God and people," Cadungog said.

Authorities identified the aircraft’s pilot as Major Manuel Sambrano, and his co-pilot as Captain Adrian de Dios, a graduate of the Philippine Military Academy Class 1999.

The crew members include:

• Flight technical sergeant Constantino Lobregat ,
• Staff Sergeant John Arriola,
• Staff Sergeant Gerry Delioso,
• Staff Sergeant Felix Pedro Patriarga,
• Staff Sergeant Petronilo Fernandez,
• Staff Sergeant Patricio Claur Jr, and
• Staff Sergeant Aldrin Ilustrisimo.

- Sophia Dedace, GMANews.TV


Wrong timing. Taghirap na nga ang AFP, ganito pa ang sinapit nila. I wonder what was the cause of the crash... My great sympathy for the loss...

^^ dalawa, per @bitoy sa post#495 :)

http://www.topnews.in/files/Philippine-Air-Force-c130.jpg
Photo taken from this site (http://www.topnews.in/philippine-air-force-c-130-missing-feared-have-crashed-261809)

Ang tanong, pusible bang sumabog ang isang C130 kapag tinamaan ito ng kidlat sa ere?

Ang tanong, pusible bang sumabog ang isang C130 kapag tinamaan ito ng kidlat sa ere?

The best person to answer that would be jgacis he was a ground crew of C-130s, baka naka-deployed na naman siya sa Iraq.

Here's some interesting discussion about that incident -

Lightning doesn’t crash planes (http://smoketalk.wordpress.com/2008/08/26/lightning-doesnt-crash-planes/)

The best person to answer that would be jgacis he was a ground crew of C-130s, baka naka-deployed na naman siya sa Iraq.

Here's some interesting discussion about that incident -

Lightning doesn’t crash planes (http://smoketalk.wordpress.com/2008/08/26/lightning-doesnt-crash-planes/)

Hey man thanks for the very interesting link!

Paano nga naman kung naiwanan nilang bukas ang isa sa kanilang bintana, baka natamaan ng kidlat ang isa sa mga piloto o lahat sila sa loob..? That's why they failed to communicate back to the tower... What's the latest news na nga ba?

Lightning may have caused C-130 crash - PAF chief
08/27/2008 | 04:53 PM

Email this | Email the Editor | Print | Digg this | Add to del.icio.us MANILA, Philippines - The Philippine Air Force (PAF) is not dismissing the possibility that lightning could have caused the crash of a C-130 transport plane off Davao last Monday despite the fact that it was equipped with a lightning arrester.

“Although it has an arrester, we will investigate the degree of the lighting... because that is a possibility,” said PAF chief Lt. Gen. Pedrito Cadungog, who flew to Mactan airbase in Lapu-Lapu City Wednesday aboard a commercial plane to personally attend to the grieving family of the pilots and crewmembers of the aircraft.

Cadungog said they will pursue the angle based on an eyewitness account that said lightning struck the area shortly before the burning aircraft was seen plummeting into the water.

“He (witness) said that a lightning struck and he saw the plane into flames before it crashed. All of that will be subjected to scientific expert evaluation by our investigation team,” Cadungog said.

He said other angles that investigators are considering are pilot factor and materiel failure.

The plane, acquired in 1983 through the United States financing program, had taken off from the Davao City airport and was on its way to Iloilo City to fetch personnel from the Presidential Security Group when it met the tragedy.

It was being piloted by Maj. Manuel Zambrano and Capt. Adrian de Dios and had seven crewmembers.

Asked if there was an indication that there was an explosion prior to the crash, the Air Force chief said, “None, none.”....

“Even the eyewitness did not describe it (aircraft) as exploding. What he said is that there was lightning,” he said. - GMANews.TV (http://www.gmanews.tv/story/116438/Lightning-may-have-caused-C-130-crash---PAF-chief)


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Philippine C-130 wreck found 600 feet under water (http://www.onelocalnews.com/prescottherald/stories1/index.php?action=fullnews&id=28026)
Staff and agencies
27 August, 2008

By PAT ROQUE, Associated Press Writer Wed Aug 27, 12:11 AM ET

DAVAO, Philippines - A military transport plane that crashed after takeoff in the southern Philippines with nine people aboard sank 600 feet under water, too deep for divers to reach, a navy spokesman said Wednesday.

Fishermen found body parts, a torn uniform, combat boots and other debris Tuesday.

A Radio DZBB report said an underwater camera found no trace of the nine crew, which included two pilots.

Cadungog said the rebels were not believed to have weapons capable of bringing down a plane flying above a couple of thousand feet (meters), but that sabotage was "always a possibility."

The C-130 is one of only two operated by the Philippine air force. The other aircraft was grounded for inspection and military officials acknowledged the loss would have an impact on combat operations.


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Investigators sort out debriss collected from the sea Tuesday, Aug. 26, 2008 in Davao City in southern
Philippines. Fishermen found body parts, combat boots and other debris tht were believed to be from
a C-130 millitary transport plane which crashed after taking off with nine crew members on board.
(AP Photo/Pat Roque (http://www.boston.com/news/world/asia/articles/2008/08/27/philippine_c_130_wreck_found_600_feet_under_water/))

No survivors found in crashed C-130; sabotage ruled out

Search suspended for the night

By Joel Guinto
INQUIRER.net (http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/regions/view/20080827-157090/No-survivors-found-in-crashed-C-130-sabotage-ruled-out)
First Posted 13:25:00 08/27/2008

MANILA, Philippines -- (UPDATE 2) No survivors from the C-130 that crashed into the Davao Gulf were found, a Navy official said Wednesday, as search operations were stopped by nightfall.

At the same time, the commander of the Philippine Air Force (PAF) said he was “ruling out” sabotage as the cause of the incident.

But despite saying sabotage was a "remote" possibility, Air Force chief Lieutenant General Pedrito Cadungog said he would still wait for the results of the official investigation of the incident by a PAF fact-finding team.

Search teams from the Philippine Navy and the Philippine Coast Guard also have not seen the fuselage of the ill-fated aircraft, which, according to sonar, lies on the seabed 600 to 800 feet below the surface, 2.5 nautical miles southwest of Samal Island, Captain Rosauro Gonzales said.

Asked if there were signs of life in the area, Gonzales said: "Sa ngayon, wala kaming nakikita. [As of now, we have not seen any]. Firstly, we have not confirmed the crash site."

Gonzales said there have been no reports of survivors washed ashore in Davao City or Samal Island, between which the C-130 Hercules crashed shortly after taking off from Davao International Airport on Monday evening. The plane was carrying two pilots and seven crewmen.

Local search teams could only dive from 200 or 300 feet, Gonzales said, adding a submarine or a mini-submarine will be needed to inspect or salvage the wreckage.

The human body parts recovered on Wednesday were placed in three black plastic bags, he said.

Strong currents washed the body parts and the debris near the shore, a distance from where the sonar had located the fuselage, he said.

With sabotage ruled out, the possible causes of the crash are pilot failure, material failure, and bad weather, Cadungog said.

"I am ruling it [sabotage] our already," the PAF commander said in a phone interview from Mactan Airbase in Cebu, where he met with the families of the C-130’s crew.

"As far as I am concerned, I can categorically say that it [sabotage] is remote," he added.

Given the tight security at the Davao International Airport, Cadungog said it was unlikely anyone could have sneaked an explosive onto the aircraft.

An eyewitness interviewed on television, who claimed to have seen the crash, did not say that the plane exploded before it plunged into the sea.

The scattered human body parts and debris could be the result of the strong impact as the plane smashed into the sea, and not necessarily due to an explosion, Cadungog said.

The crash leaves only one C-130 in the Air Force's fleet operational, although this was grounded soon after the crash was confirmed.

Three other C-130s are undergoing maintenance.


^^ kala ko dalawa lang C-130 planes natin :?

^ 2 lang ang functional.

question..: may black box ba ang mga c130??

The crew members include:

• Flight technical sergeant Constantino Lobregat ,
• Staff Sergeant John Arriola,
• Staff Sergeant Gerry Delioso,
• Staff Sergeant Felix Pedro Patriarga,
• Staff Sergeant Petronilo Fernandez,
• Staff Sergeant Patricio Claur Jr, and
• Staff Sergeant Aldrin Ilustrisimo.

- Sophia Dedace, GMANews.TV

my father wept for them... 4 of the crew members were his friends during their UN mission in Haiti. condolence nlang to all of them.

my father wept for them... 4 of the crew members were his friends during their UN mission in Haiti. condolence nlang to all of them.

Im sorry to hear that...

A C-130 crashing due to a lightning strike? Parang hinde posible yan ha... Sigurado may kinalaman ang Malaysia na naman dito. :nuts:

Anyway, Condolence dun sa mga sundalo at mga flight crew ng C-130...

^^^ Don't under estimate the power of nature, particularly lightning, that was not the first time an aircraft was struck by a lightning. I am not sure if this is the first time an aircraft crashed due to lightning but I know of several aircraft was paralized while landing or on the ground. A UPS aircraft here in our city was struck by a lighthing while landing, once it made it on the ground, the pilot was not able to operate the aircraft and was grounded for a couple of days for repair.

I know kaso they said, The aicraft BLEW UP dahil daw sa lightning..

^^ sino me sabi? :nuts:

i think what they (PAF) said was that the plane disintegrated upon hitting the water.. i remember they compared it to a tomato being thrown to a wall... (boom!)
:)

Wow, usapang kidlat. Hehe. The PAF chief said the C-130 is equipped with lightning arresters that's why on first impression the possibility that lightning caused the plane to crash is unlikely. But words from the locals that they saw that the plane was struck by lightning has caused the PAF investigators to pursue that angle. Anyways, the PAF needs more support now since there's only one functional C-130 left. Congress should look into this and increase funding for our Armed Forces.

i think what they (PAF) said was that the plane disintegrated upon hitting the water.. i remember they compared it to a tomato being thrown to a wall... (boom!)
:)

C-130 is a very tough airplane. It is designed to land on unprepared airstrips. I don't think it will disintegrate totally despite of the old age (built in 1971, according to news source).

C-130 is a very tough airplane. It is designed to land on unprepared airstrips. I don't think it will disintegrate totally despite of the old age (built in 1971, according to news source).

Disintegration can happen to a plane if it is out of control during an emergency landing or water ditching.

Disintegration can happen to a plane if it is out of control during an emergency landing or water ditching.

I should had said easily, instead of totally. My bad....

Anyway, do you have an idea what model of the C-130 crashed? Is it the B model, C model, or the H model?

I should had said easily, instead of totally. My bad....

Anyway, do you have an idea what model of the C-130 crashed? Is it the B model, C model, or the H model?

The PAF have the B and H models.
It must be a B model since they said it was built in 1971, the H model was introduced in 1974.

I should had said easily, instead of totally. My bad....

Anyway, do you have an idea what model of the C-130 crashed? Is it the B model, C model, or the H model?

the c130 that crashed was a civilian version that is known as the L100. they PAF just repainted it to look like the military version.

Technical Details

The PAF has four models of the C-130 in it's books - three military models (A, B and H) and one civilian model, the L.100-20 which is basically the "H" model C-130 (with little or no military equipment) but with a 20 foot fuselage extension.

The "A" model differs from the later models primarily in having less powerful engines (Allison T-56A-9 or T56A-11 with 3,0750 eshp). "B" models had the more powerful T-56A-7 with 4,050 eshp that was mounted slightly more forward of the wing compared to the C-130A. It also had a higher gross weight compared to the earlier model as well as could carry more fuel. The H model had even more powerful engines - T56A-15 with 4,508 eshp. It also has a different braking system as well as a redesigned and strengthened center wing section. It also carries a different radar from the first two models. The L.100-20 has the same engines as the "H" model. One visual difference between the "H" model and the "B" models of the Hercules is the wing tanks - "B" models were the last type not fitted with wing tanks. Every model after the "B" had them fitted as standard.

Service History

The PAF has operated C-130s since 1973 with the delivery of the first L.100-20s. The type was assigned to the 220th Heavy Airlift Wing of the PAF and was based out of Mactan Benito Ebuen Air Base. The three H models came in 1976 and were delivered new from the factory. With the lack of funds to pay for newer models or more H models, the PAF has had to rely on acquiring B model Hercules from US stocks at AMARC. It is interesting to note that the very first L.100-20 produced by Lockheed as a company demonstrator ended up with the PAF.
The PAF used to maintain a regular shuttle service between three major airbases in the Philippines - Villamor, Mactan and Zamboanga. Troops, supplies and equipment (including armored vehicles and howitzers) were regular passengers. These days, with the decline in flyable aircraft, those flyable C-130s are largely held in reserve and are used to ferry troops and supplies to the latest hotspots only when required and only during emergencies. The day-to-day shuttle is no longer maintained or flown by C-130s. The day-to-day transport needs of the AFP are now met by scheduled airlines, through leases or by the Navy, though the Navy has its own set of problems.

There had been news reports of the PAF acquiring four ex-RAF C-130Ks but nothing has come out of this with the aircraft eventually being acquired by Poland, Romania and Sri Lanka. These were to have been sold with two sets of roll-on/roll-off reconnaissance/sensor pallets containing a maritime surveillance radar package from Lockheed Martin as well as a maintenance package covering the whole of the PAF C-130 fleet. Negotiations had reached a pretty advanced stage with space at Clark being set aside by the PAF for Lockheed Martins overhaul facility. The deal was later cancelled by the Philippine congress on allegations that the deal was overpriced. Salvation however came in the form of a company called Asian Aerospace.

Current Status

Like much of the PAF, C-130 availability declined steadily since 1993. The slide however has been reversed thanks to increased funding from the US with operational numbers up from a low of 1 operational unit to about five on any given day. As of July 2006, two B models, one H model and two L100-20 stretched models are operational. Despite the commonalities it still must present a minor logistical nightmare since the fleet now represents three different subtypes.

In the past, PAF C130s were initially being sent to Airod of Malaysia in the late early 21st century for overhaul as funding became available. Since June 2004, overhauls have been done at Clark with Asian Aerospace and the assistance of Lockheed Martin. The latest aircraft to benefit from this is PAF4593, a Lockheed L100-20 (stretch). Another C130 is about to begin the overhaul process with a further two in line pending funding. In the meantime, non-flyable aircraft sit in Mactan Air Base in storage.. The eventual goal is to have at least 6, maybe 7, fully operational aircraft by the end of 2007 subject to funding.

http://www.hueybravo.net/Airforcepage/c130.htm

another emergency landing by a PAF huey helicopter..

PAF chopper makes emergency landing in Camotes Island (http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/storypage.aspx?StoryId=130161)

US Navy ship finds crashed Philippine plane
23 minutes ago

http://afp.google.com/media/ALeqM5gPKeD2e7XjH98ClaJpV5PETtqB-A?size=m

US Navy vessel USNS John McDonnell sails in Davao Gulf

DAVAO, Philippines (AFP (http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5gTRA29hv4-mVBzMk-7kSMViSiF3g)) — A US Navy ship has found the wreckage of a Philippine air force troop transport plane which crashed at sea last month with the loss of all nine crew, the Philippine armed forces said Friday.

Manila asked Washington for help in locating the wreckage of the C-130 to establish the cause of the crash in the Davao Gulf off the southern city of Davao on August 25.

"The wreckage is located under the sea at the depth of 130 metres (430 feet)," said regional military spokesman Major Armand Rico.

The oceanographic survey ship USNS John McDonnell found the wreckage late Thursday after a two-day search, Rico said.

"The survey ship is collating all its data as other major parts of the aircraft have also been detected in the seabed of Davao Gulf," the official added.

The 41-year-old US-made aircraft lost contact with air traffic controllers shortly after taking off from Davao airport on restive Mindanao island.

Kawawa na talaga ang airforce natin :ohno:

Wrong timing pa. Kung tuwing naghihirap ang bansa eh dito pa tayo malalagasan ng isang importanteng eroplano.

T'was discussed in another forum that RP has its own Oceanographic vessels. Why the need for American intervention? RP is too dependent on Uncle Sam! :ohno:

^^ diba nga meron daw tayong mga sonar ba yun kaso sira daw...:nuts:

^^ If we have it, I don't think we will be asking the help of the United States. The very reason why the U.S. Navy went here is because of the fact that we don't have the equipment to locate the C-130 plane. It has been located and we just have to wait until all the parts of found for the final determination on what caused the crash.

We might be lacking in modern equipments but the combat experience of the military could not be underestimated. After all, it's difficult to fight against all those rebels.

^^ If we have it, I don't think we will be asking the help of the United States. The very reason why the U.S. Navy went here is because of the fact that we don't have the equipment to locate the C-130 plane. It has been located and we just have to wait until all the parts of found for the final determination on what caused the crash.

We might be lacking in modern equipments but the combat experience of the military could not be underestimated. After all, it's difficult to fight against all those rebels.

^^ before the USNS McDonnell arrived, our coast guard have been using an echo sounder from a private company..:)

http://www.gmanews.tv/largevideo/related/27957/Wing-like-object-spotted-at-crash-site

isa nalang ba c-130 natin?? do they even have plans of acquiring new ones??

^ merong 2 o 3 pa yata pero hindi gumgana sa ngayon.

wala pa yang plano bumili ng bago or second hand na c-130. dipa kasi natatapos ung mansion ni general. o baka me skeduled vacation pa sa US c general. ;))

ito ung sasabihin ni general. "bat ko nman uunahin ung c-130, mas mabuti nga un 1 nlng c-130 para mas mahirapan ung AFP sa pag.sugpo sa mga rebelde. eh kung matatapos na ung giyera pano na un? wala na akong source of income. hehe!!!"

wala pa yang plano bumili ng bago or second hand na c-130. dipa kasi natatapos ung mansion ni general. o baka me skeduled vacation pa sa US c general. ;))

ito ung sasabihin ni general. "bat ko nman uunahin ung c-130, mas mabuti nga un 1 nlng c-130 para mas mahirapan ung AFP sa pag.sugpo sa mga rebelde. eh kung matatapos na ung giyera pano na un? wala na akong source of income. hehe!!!"

So true, Dapat dun sa corrupt na heneral ay patayin o kaya pa murder :D


Kakahiya ang army at airforce natin. Kung tutuusin, mas moderno pa ang equipment ng MILF compared sa army natin. :ohno:

Bakit hinde tayo mag import atleast ng Russian or Chinese military hardware? Maganda naman ang kagamitan ng PLA at ng Russia at bagay na bagay sa terrain natin at affordable naman.. *hopes of seing a T-72 getting used to shoot the MILF's*

^^ before the USNS McDonnell arrived, our coast guard have been using an echo sounder from a private company..:)

http://www.gmanews.tv/largevideo/related/27957/Wing-like-object-spotted-at-crash-site

They mentioned in the other forum that RP government has some oceanographic ship. Maybe they're drydocked somewhere awaiting funds and spare parts. :ohno:

So true, Dapat dun sa corrupt na heneral ay patayin o kaya pa murder :D


Kakahiya ang army at airforce natin. Kung tutuusin, mas moderno pa ang equipment ng MILF compared sa army natin. :ohno:

Bakit hinde tayo mag import atleast ng Russian or Chinese military hardware? Maganda naman ang kagamitan ng PLA at ng Russia at bagay na bagay sa terrain natin at affordable naman.. *hopes of seing a T-72 getting used to shoot the MILF's*

I wonder what happened to the Armed Forces Comptroller who was indicted.

They mentioned in the other forum that RP government has some oceanographic ship. Maybe they're drydocked somewhere awaiting funds and spare parts. :ohno:

According to the website, there are four research vessels in Philippines (the list might be outdated):


Atyimba (http://www.researchvessels.org/country/Philippines/atyimba.htm) - Coast & Geodetic Survey Dept., NAMRIA
Explorer (http://www.researchvessels.org/country/Philippines/explorer.htm) - Mines and Geosciences Bureau, DENR
Researcher (http://www.researchvessels.org/country/Philippines/researcher.htm) - Bureau of Fisheries and Aquatic Resources (BFAR), Department of Agriculture (Actually, that's M/V DA-BFAR)
Sardinella (http://www.researchvessels.org/country/Philippines/sardinella.htm) - University of the Philippines in the Visayas

i just got back fro the old DIA. this is where the PAF is stationed. i saw there two s211's, two OV-10's, 5 Huey's, and 5 mg-520's.

are these aircraft really stationed there or are they just there because of the AFP's offensive against the MILF?

Police eye installing 50 CCTVs around Quezon City

By Jeannette Andrade
Philippine Daily Inquirer (http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/metro/view/20080909-159617/Police-eye-installing-50-CCTVs-around-Quezon-City)
First Posted 18:45:00 09/09/2008

MANILA, Philippines—If you ever get the feeling of being watched while on the streets of Quezon City, there is a big chance that you are.

The Quezon City Police District (QCPD) is eyeing to install closed circuit television (CCTV) cameras in busy intersections around the city in a bid to curb crime.

QCPD Director Senior Superintendent Magtanggol Gatdula said that the initial plan is to set up 50 security cameras, estimated to cost the local government P49 million, around the locality.

“But it (P49 million) is too big. We understand that we are not only the priority of the city government,” Gatdula told the Philippine Daily Inquirer adding, “Just 10 or 15 cameras will do for the meantime.” A unit, he explained, is priced at around P300,000.

He pointed out that should the bidding for the purchase of the cameras under the government procurement laws proceed without hitches, the units could be installed before the end of the year.

“The various business clubs and establishments could also help us out,” the QCPD Director said, adding that the financial and commercial establishments would eventually benefit from the measure.

The CCTV cameras will be installed on busy streets, areas with high density of crime, as well as sites thick with people around Quezon City. But he declined to name the areas.

He explained that the QCPD Tactical Operations Center would be put in charge of processing and collating the video feeds from the cameras stationed in different areas.

But until then, Gatdula said, the QCPD has to rely on the CCTVs already installed in establishments and to continue dispatching policemen for patrol operations around the city.

T'was discussed in another forum that RP has its own Oceanographic vessels. Why the need for American intervention? RP is too dependent on Uncle Sam! :ohno:

mas hitech ata yung sa american ship, my sonar payun....

It's about time!

ano difference ng missile at rocket? size lang ba?
kc sabi ng army they used machine gun and rocket attacks sa MILF

rocket?

According to the website, there are four research vessels in Philippines (the list might be outdated):


Atyimba (http://www.researchvessels.org/country/Philippines/atyimba.htm) - Coast & Geodetic Survey Dept., NAMRIA
Explorer (http://www.researchvessels.org/country/Philippines/explorer.htm) - Mines and Geosciences Bureau, DENR
Researcher (http://www.researchvessels.org/country/Philippines/researcher.htm) - Bureau of Fisheries and Aquatic Resources (BFAR), Department of Agriculture (Actually, that's M/V DA-BFAR)
Sardinella (http://www.researchvessels.org/country/Philippines/sardinella.htm) - University of the Philippines in the Visayas


Do you know the status of these assets?

meron tayong isang frigate ship, complete with sonar and anti-submarine capabilities, mga 1990's. pero hindi ata namaintain, kaya binenta na lang yung equipments. we left with absolutely zero anti-submarine defense system.

There was a recent clash in Lanao Del Sur between the military and the MILF rebels, the news says. Fortunately, no one on the military side was reported as casualty while MILF rebels are splitting into groups, a sign that they are already weakening.

At the very least, we can at least be happy that some private groups in Mindanao are rendering help to our soldiers there. I've heard they were sending tuna, canned goods, toiletries, load, and medicine to our troops while they are finding these recalcitrant rebels. With that, it can be shown that they are being supported by the people of Mindanao.

There was a recent clash in Lanao Del Sur between the military and the MILF rebels, the news says. Fortunately, no one on the military side was reported as casualty while MILF rebels are splitting into groups, a sign that they are already weakening.

At the very least, we can at least be happy that some private groups in Mindanao are rendering help to our soldiers there. I've heard they were sending tuna, canned goods, toiletries, load, and medicine to our troops while they are finding these recalcitrant rebels. With that, it can be shown that they are being supported by the people of Mindanao.

check nyo mga generals ang gaganda ng bahay! ang lalaki ng mga mansyon! parang c joma sison ang ganda ng buhay sa The Nethearlands tapos ung mga kasama nya dito tinutugis ng mga sundalo! hehe!!! isnt it ironic!!!

So what happened to the planned Night Capable Helo's?

ano difference ng missile at rocket? size lang ba?
kc sabi ng army they used machine gun and rocket attacks sa MILF

rocket?

Capabilities and they all comes with different sizes. Basically, ang mga missiles merong computer chips na for advnce & precise targetting w/ Heat Seeking capability w/ the help of sattelite/radar guidance. While those being fired blindly (ground-to-ground rockets) or using manual targetting w/o the use of any radars, are called "rockets". But ofcourse both have rocket engines/boosters. :)

They must be talkin about those rockets from OV-10's and MG500 gunships.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocket
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Air-to-ground_rockets

Capability upgrade is the main aim of the Armed Forces of the Philippines. The commander-in-chief has promised our soldiers that the national government is putting much focus in the facilities and capability upgrade of our armed forces to augment and provide their needs as defenders of the state.

I heard Congress will pass legislation or is it the General Appropriations Act, wherein there will be addition to the recent appropriation in the budget of the AFP. This is just proper because our soldiers need modern equipment and increases in their basic pay to compensate for their risky jobs.

http://i32.tinypic.com/rbjqs9.jpg

:cheers: :lol:

GMA gets 2 new helicopters
By Jess Diaz (http://www.philstar.com/index.php?News%20Feature&p=49&type=2&sec=29)
Wednesday, September 17, 2008


While the Air Force finds it too expensive to add one more C-130 so that it would have at least two cargo planes in working condition, Malacañang has acquired two helicopters worth P1.4 billion, or P700 million each, for use by President Arroyo.

Members of the House appropriations committee learned of the acquisition yesterday when they compared the P4.3-billion budget of the Office of the President (OP) this year and its proposed P2.9-billion outlay for 2009.

They told reporters that the difference of P1.4 billion between this year’s and the 2009 OP budgets represents the purchase price of the two presidential helicopters.

The new acquisitions are in addition to several choppers and other aircraft comprising the presidential airlift wing available to Mrs. Arroyo.

In contrast, the Air Force could not buy a replacement for its C-130 transport plane that crashed in the Davao gulf more than a month ago.

Defense Secretary Gilbert Teodoro told an appropriations committee hearing last week that a brand new C-130 would be “expensive” at P800 million.

“We would rather make do with the remaining C-130 that is still operational and two more that are under repair and maintenance. Those would be sufficient for our requirements, if we can make them fly,” he said.

Though congressmen learned about Malacañang’s helicopter purchase, they did not question OP officials about it. In fact, they approved OP’s 2009 budget without scrutiny “in deference to the highest official of the land.”

It looks like this one. PAF already had one S-70-5 used as a training helicopter before the two new ones will be deployed for active service. The dash 5 model are for Philippine export. It has never been used by President Estrada and Gloria Arroyo. The blackhawk is currently used to transport close-in PSG. When it arrives it will be used by GMA while the 2 Bell 412 helicopters will go to Noli De Castro. It cost the Philippine taxpayers more than $18 million each to buy this baby.

http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/images/AIR_S-70_Blackhawk_Austria_Over_River_lg.jpg

.....while the 2 Bell 412 helicopters will go to Noli De Castro. It cost the Philippine taxpayers more than $18 million each to buy this baby.

In preparation for 2010? :dunno:

Interesting! Thanks for the information.

I did not know Military Aviation is being discussed here as well. Any more aircraft/helos the government is planning to acquire?

Is the Fokker plane still part of the Presidential Airlift? How old is this aircraft?

What happened to Villamor Airbase? Does it still exist?

Capability upgrade is the main aim of the Armed Forces of the Philippines. The commander-in-chief has promised our soldiers that the national government is putting much focus in the facilities and capability upgrade of our armed forces to augment and provide their needs as defenders of the state.

I heard Congress will pass legislation or is it the General Appropriations Act, wherein there will be addition to the recent appropriation in the budget of the AFP. This is just proper because our soldiers need modern equipment and increases in their basic pay to compensate for their risky jobs.

Dapat lang ano... It's well overdue na...

http://i32.tinypic.com/rbjqs9.jpg

:cheers: :lol:

Nice one dude!

It looks like this one. PAF already had one S-70-5 used as a training helicopter before the two new ones will be deployed for active service. The dash 5 model are for Philippine export. It has never been used by President Estrada and Gloria Arroyo. The blackhawk is currently used to transport close-in PSG. When it arrives it will be used by GMA while the 2 Bell 412 helicopters will go to Noli De Castro. It cost the Philippine taxpayers more than $18 million each to buy this baby.

http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/images/AIR_S-70_Blackhawk_Austria_Over_River_lg.jpg

Any links related to the reported acquisitions? Thanks!

Military uses ‘flip-flop’ tactic vs insurgency (http://www.philstar.com/index.php?Headlines&p=49&type=2&sec=24&aid=20080925144)

By Jaime Laude
Friday, September 26, 2008


Army troops are adopting a new tactic to counter the insurgency problem – distributing slippers to grade school pupils in far-flung areas.

Through their “Tsinelas Campaign” project, the Philippine Army, together with the PEACEnet volunteer group, recently “raided” a remote village in Negros island, carrying not guns but 600 pairs of flip-flops and food that were distributed to the pupils.

“We have to make them feel that the government, through the Philippine Army, cares for them so that they won’t fall victims to false promises of leftist groups who want to use them for their own selfish interests,” said Col. Nemesio Franco Gacal, commanding officer of the Army’s 11th Infantry Battalion based in Negros Oriental.

Among the recipients of the outreach program conducted at Linantuyan Elementary School in Guihulngan City, Negros Oriental was grade V pupil Marissa Santos.

Santos said having a pair of slippers is quite a luxury for her as she would no longer walk barefoot to school.

“My parents could hardly buy food for us because of poverty, much more slippers,” Santos told Gacal.

The schoolchildren of Linantuyan were chosen as the recipients because of the distance of the school from their houses.

“The children have to walk miles barefoot just to be able to attend their classes. The apparent isolated situation of the village was also a consideration,” Gacal said.

The place is known to be rebel-infested and the Army believes that winning the hearts of the children means winning the first round in the battle against the insurgents.

Thirty volunteers from PEACENet, a non-government organization, accompanied the troops in bringing the slippers, clothing, and food to the schoolchildren who were chosen as the first recipients of the Tsinelas Campaign.

PEACEnet volunteers, including nursing students from Riverside College, and Army troops had to traverse muddy and slippery roads for two hours before they could reach the site.

Anton Meenama, a Sri Lankan volunteer and a part-time teacher in Bacolod City, took his leather shoes off and walked barefoot while carrying a sack of slippers.

Meenama, who has spent years doing community volunteer work in the country, described the mission as very fulfilling.

“It has always been a fulfillment for me to help. It is worth doing,” he said.

Gacal, on the other hand, said they were able to gather enough slippers and goods by holding a concert that charged slippers and food instead of cash as entrance fee.

To show their gratitude, the pupils gave the soldiers and the volunteers flowers.
“It is the smiles and hearty greetings of the schoolchildren bearing flowers that wiped away the weariness and exhaustion of the volunteers upon arriving at the Linantuyan Elementary School, which is kilometers away from the barangay proper,” Gacal said.

Barangay Captain Elpidio Villar, who witnessed the event together with the teachers, could not contain his happiness that visitors from Bacolod and Negros Oriental traveled miles just to extend assistance to the children of Linantuyan.

And on a sad note ........


COA report says AFP modernization ‘far from being attained’ (http://www.philstar.com/index.php?Headlines&p=49&type=2&sec=24&aid=20080925153)By Reinir Padua
Friday, September 26, 2008


The plan to modernize the country’s military is “far from being attained,” according to a report of the Commission on Audit (COA), citing the absence of concrete plans, lack of funding and sluggish procurement process.

In a performance audit on the Armed Forces of the Philippines (AFP), state auditors said these factors contributed to the failure of the Armed Forces to attain its constitutional mandate even as more than P28 billion has been “accumulated” for the program to modernize the military as of the end of last year.

The COA report said the enactment of Republic Act 7898 to modernize the AFP by 2010 cannot be realized because of irregularities surrounding its implementation.

And on a sad note ........


COA report says AFP modernization ‘far from being attained’ (http://www.philstar.com/index.php?Headlines&p=49&type=2&sec=24&aid=20080925153)By Reinir Padua
Friday, September 26, 2008


The plan to modernize the country’s military is “far from being attained,” according to a report of the Commission on Audit (COA), citing the absence of concrete plans, lack of funding and sluggish procurement process.

In a performance audit on the Armed Forces of the Philippines (AFP), state auditors said these factors contributed to the failure of the Armed Forces to attain its constitutional mandate even as more than P28 billion has been “accumulated” for the program to modernize the military as of the end of last year.

The COA report said the enactment of Republic Act 7898 to modernize the AFP by 2010 cannot be realized because of irregularities surrounding its implementation.

Kawawa mga enlisted men and junior officers sila ibinabala sa giyera...yung mga heneral naman ayun puro...utos lang ng utos tapos puro milagro ba ginagawa sa budget ng AFP...

Hay naku...:ohno:

And on a sad note ........


COA report says AFP modernization ‘far from being attained’ (http://www.philstar.com/index.php?Headlines&p=49&type=2&sec=24&aid=20080925153)By Reinir Padua
Friday, September 26, 2008


The plan to modernize the country’s military is “far from being attained,” according to a report of the Commission on Audit (COA), citing the absence of concrete plans, lack of funding and sluggish procurement process.

In a performance audit on the Armed Forces of the Philippines (AFP), state auditors said these factors contributed to the failure of the Armed Forces to attain its constitutional mandate even as more than P28 billion has been “accumulated” for the program to modernize the military as of the end of last year.

The COA report said the enactment of Republic Act 7898 to modernize the AFP by 2010 cannot be realized because of irregularities surrounding its implementation.


Defense budget not enough to lick insurgency on time, says lawmaker

JOHANNA CAMILLE SISANTE, GMANews.TV
09/25/2008

MANILA, Philippines – The proposed P76-billion budget of the Armed Forces of the Philippines (AFP) for 2009 is not enough to eradicate the communist insurgency by 2010, a lawmaker said on Thursday.

Muntinlupa City Rep. Rufino Biazon, who heads the subcommittee hearing the Department of National Defense's proposed 2009 budget, said the deadline for the eradication of insurgents is likely unattainable unless major adjustments are made on the military’s budget.

"The thrust to defeat the insurgents is doomed to fail, not because the AFP is not competent to win battles, but because they lack the resources to carry on the fight to meet the objectives in the prescribed time," said Biazon in a statement.

Among the unfunded requirements for 2009 are funds for additional 600 Marines, said Biazon, who added that the Army, the Air Force, and Navy do not even have enough funds to supply the mandatory two basic loads of ammunition for soldiers.

Biazon said that with the unfunded requirements, it may be impossible to increase the operational tempo necessary to meet the 2010 deadline.

During the subcommittee hearing on Thursday morning, Defense Secretary Gilbert Teodoro said the AFP's unfunded requirements amount to as much as P43 billion, including P14 billion for capital outlay and P5.7 billion for operational tempo and ammunition.

"We're not asking for better equipment. What we are asking for is money to increase our operational tempo with the new equipment," Teodoro told the House panel.

He added that the AFP needs more manpower to achieve the insurgency eradication target, not to mention the threat posed by renegade Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MNLF) units, Abu Sayyaf extremists, and other armed groups in the southern Philippines.

"We need more warm bodies," said Teodoro. "We need a lot of soldiers for a very long time to prevent the recurrence of whatever security threat."

Teodoro further lamented the Philippines has one of the lowest defense spending in Asia and is sorely lagging behind its Asian neighbors.

He said the DND's share in the national budget is only 5 percent — a far cry from Brunei's 37 percent and Singapore's 32 percent, with the closest being Thailand at 8.6 percent.

The Department of Budget and Management has allotted P76 billion for the AFP for 2009, with P54.3 billion for regular funds and P21.7 billion for Special Purpose Funds.

Teodoro said P40.4 billion of the regular funds will go to personal services, while the remaining P13.9 billion will go to maintenance and other operating expenditures.

The Special Purpose Funds will be divided as follows: P15.7 billion requirement for regular pension and gratuity, P5 billion for the AFP Modernization Program, and P1 billion for the Kalayaan Barangay Program. - GMANews.TV

Int'l court on human rights could be used to discredit us--AFP
Written by Aries Rufo
Friday, 26 September 2008

http://newsbreak.com.ph/images/stories/zoom/subject/security/military/yanoalexander_080808.jpg

Besieged by allegations that it is behind the spate of extrajudicial killings and enforced disappearances in the country, the Armed Forces of the Philippines (AFP) has expressed reservation to a treaty that deals with crimes against humanity, fearing it could be used to discredit the military institution.

But Supreme Court (SC) Chief Justice Reynato Puno disagreed, saying the trend on international jurisprudence is to prosecute serious violations on human rights and an international criminal court “could provide an additional firewall” against violations.

In a paper presented Friday at the concluding day on the conference on the International Criminal Court (ICC), AFP Inspector Gen. Ferdinand Bocobo said that while the adoption of the Rome Statute of the ICC “is a positive step towards upholding the law,” such can be taken advantage of by State enemies to embarrass or shame the government before the international community.

Bocobo, who presented the paper in behalf of AFP Chief of Staff Gen. Alexander Yano, cited the local experience where atrocities and internal purging were committed by State enemies and lawless elements and for which the blame is being put on the military.

“The AFP positively welcomes formal charges made in the courts law…and to indemnify the victims if deemed necessary. However it must be said that in many cases, the lack of witnesses for the successful prosecution is deliberately caused by the insurgents themselves and their allies to prolong the issues to discredit the AFP. The longer the cases drag, the better the enemies can exploit the situation to negatively portray the AFP in a bad light,” he said.

This could explain the government’s continued refusal to adopt the Rome Statute on the ICC, which binds the country to submit itself to the international court to prosecute crimes against humanity, like genocide, war crimes and crime of aggression.

The government is yet to submit to the Senate the Rome Treaty, adopted already by 106 countries, for ratification. The Integrated Bar of the Philippines, in a statement Thursday, said the government’s refusal “is dictated more by politics and power alignments than by a true intent and desire to join the international community in the prosecution of crimes.”

In adopting a wary eye on the ICC, the AFP paper maintained that there exists a “realistic scenario” that the treaty “may serve as a convenient venue for filing partisan and politically-motivated cases of human rights violations against uniformed men to hog-tie our security efforts against terrorists and lawless elements.”


Read full article here (http://newsbreak.com.ph/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5383&Itemid=88889051)

RP to launch bids for combat helicopters (http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/09/28/08/rp-launch-bids-combat-helicopters-0)

MANNY MOGATO, Reuters | 09/28/2008 4:03 PM

The Philippines will seek bids for eight new combat helicopters next month, part of a nearly $100 million purchase of 24 helicopters this year to upgrade its Vietnam War-era air force, a defence official said on Friday.

The Philippines has set aside about 5 billion pesos ($107.8 million) each year from 2006 on top of the annual defence budget to fund a modernisation programme to catch up with neighbours in Southeast Asia.

"We're ready to open bids next month for eight brand-new combat utility helicopters worth about 3 billion pesos," Roberto Feliciano, an assistant defence secretary, told Reuters in an interview, adding three or four top manufacturers have submitted offers.

The bidding scheduled for October 9 is the second attempt to procure the helicopters. An earlier tender this month failed when only one bidder, Agusta Westland, applied and was declared ineligible due to a technicality, another defence official said.

Feliciano, who also heads the defence department's bid and awards committee, said he was working on approval and implementation of about 50 modernisation projects worth close to 20 billion pesos ($430 million).

His committee is to upgrade the military's ships, aircraft, armoured vehicles, trucks, rifles, ammunitions, radio sets and other equipment to improve soldiers' ability to move, shoot and communicate.

Feliciano said the defence department had identified a local company, Prime Tech Aerospace, and its Montana-based partner, Rotorcraft Service Center LLC, to supply 10 second-hand UH-1H Huey helicopters at a contract price of 373 million pesos.

"We have not awarded the contract for the Hueys," he said, adding the Philippine Air Force was sending pilots and engineers to conduct tests in Montana before the deal could be signed.

The military was also re-bidding six night-capable attack helicopters worth 1.2 billion pesos after the defence department scrapped an earlier deal with a local partner of a U.S.-based helicopter manufacturer due to alleged irregularities.

Feliciano said the three helicopter projects worth nearly $100 million were in the government's priority list because of the military's efforts to defeat Muslim and communist rebels.

Currently, the Philippines has 85 Vietnam War-era UH-1H choppers and 22 MD520 attack helicopters, but only about half of them are in flying conditions. Most of the choppers were donated by the United States as part of military aid to fight rebels.

"Our hands are full. We're rushing all these projects because our military has a deadline to beat in carrying out its mission to end internal security threats," Feliciano said.

as of 09/28/2008 4:42 PM

AFP buying night vision monoculars
– James Mananghaya
Monday, September 29, 2008
http://philstar.com/index.php?Headlines&p=49&type=2&sec=24&aid=20080928161

The capacity of government troops to conduct combat operations at night will be fully operational with the impending purchase of night vision monoculars, the military said yesterday.

The monoculars will be used with the infrared and laser-zeroing devices, which have already been purchased at a total cost of P55,376,700 and were delivered in September last year.

“To upgrade this capability, we are creating an integrated night fighting system which comprises several components; the only component lacking for the system to operationalize is the night vision monocular,” Lt. Col. Ernesto Torres, Armed Forces public affairs chief said.

Torres said the process for the purchase of night vision monoculars is ongoing as the military and defense establishments are strictly following legal procurement procedures.– James Mananghaya

“Once delivered, the AFP will have a better and more responsive night fighting system,” he said.

Torres, however, said night vision goggles have already been issued to troops on the frontlines.

The Commission on Audit said the military’s night vision gear of infrared and laser-zeroing device is useless without the monocular.

The infrared laser equipment without night vision monocular defeats the purpose of enabling soldiers to engage the enemy in combat at night, according state auditors.

The COA reported that the night vision monocular and the infrared aiming light devices “cannot be utilized without the other.”

Though both were approved under a budget worth P592, 974,705.88, only the infrared aiming light devices underwent a completed bidding process.

AFP buying night vision monoculars
– James Mananghaya
Monday, September 29, 2008
http://philstar.com/index.php?Headlines&p=49&type=2&sec=24&aid=20080928161

The capacity of government troops to conduct combat operations at night will be fully operational with the impending purchase of night vision monoculars, the military said yesterday.

The monoculars will be used with the infrared and laser-zeroing devices, which have already been purchased at a total cost of P55,376,700 and were delivered in September last year.

“To upgrade this capability, we are creating an integrated night fighting system which comprises several components; the only component lacking for the system to operationalize is the night vision monocular,” Lt. Col. Ernesto Torres, Armed Forces public affairs chief said.

Torres said the process for the purchase of night vision monoculars is ongoing as the military and defense establishments are strictly following legal procurement procedures.– James Mananghaya

“Once delivered, the AFP will have a better and more responsive night fighting system,” he said.

Torres, however, said night vision goggles have already been issued to troops on the frontlines.

The Commission on Audit said the military’s night vision gear of infrared and laser-zeroing device is useless without the monocular.

The infrared laser equipment without night vision monocular defeats the purpose of enabling soldiers to engage the enemy in combat at night, according state auditors.

The COA reported that the night vision monocular and the infrared aiming light devices “cannot be utilized without the other.”

Though both were approved under a budget worth P592, 974,705.88, only the infrared aiming light devices underwent a completed bidding process.

RP to launch bids for combat helicopters (http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/09/28/08/rp-launch-bids-combat-helicopters-0)

MANNY MOGATO, Reuters | 09/28/2008 4:03 PM

The Philippines will seek bids for eight new combat helicopters next month, part of a nearly $100 million purchase of 24 helicopters this year to upgrade its Vietnam War-era air force, a defence official said on Friday.

The Philippines has set aside about 5 billion pesos ($107.8 million) each year from 2006 on top of the annual defence budget to fund a modernisation programme to catch up with neighbours in Southeast Asia.

"We're ready to open bids next month for eight brand-new combat utility helicopters worth about 3 billion pesos," Roberto Feliciano, an assistant defence secretary, told Reuters in an interview, adding three or four top manufacturers have submitted offers.

The bidding scheduled for October 9 is the second attempt to procure the helicopters. An earlier tender this month failed when only one bidder, Agusta Westland, applied and was declared ineligible due to a technicality, another defence official said.

Feliciano, who also heads the defence department's bid and awards committee, said he was working on approval and implementation of about 50 modernisation projects worth close to 20 billion pesos ($430 million).

His committee is to upgrade the military's ships, aircraft, armoured vehicles, trucks, rifles, ammunitions, radio sets and other equipment to improve soldiers' ability to move, shoot and communicate.

Feliciano said the defence department had identified a local company, Prime Tech Aerospace, and its Montana-based partner, Rotorcraft Service Center LLC, to supply 10 second-hand UH-1H Huey helicopters at a contract price of 373 million pesos.

"We have not awarded the contract for the Hueys," he said, adding the Philippine Air Force was sending pilots and engineers to conduct tests in Montana before the deal could be signed.

The military was also re-bidding six night-capable attack helicopters worth 1.2 billion pesos after the defence department scrapped an earlier deal with a local partner of a U.S.-based helicopter manufacturer due to alleged irregularities.

Feliciano said the three helicopter projects worth nearly $100 million were in the government's priority list because of the military's efforts to defeat Muslim and communist rebels.

Currently, the Philippines has 85 Vietnam War-era UH-1H choppers and 22 MD520 attack helicopters, but only about half of them are in flying conditions. Most of the choppers were donated by the United States as part of military aid to fight rebels.

"Our hands are full. We're rushing all these projects because our military has a deadline to beat in carrying out its mission to end internal security threats," Feliciano said.

as of 09/28/2008 4:42 PM



Thanks for the updates comrades!

ang mga sundalo natin, handang mamatay sa bayan. sana nman yung mga kagamitan nila yung the "best" our country could have. i saw sa news that our soldiers are using .30 cal MG, while yung mga MILF are using .50 cal. tsk 3x

Int'l court on human rights could be used to discredit us--AFP
Written by Aries Rufo
Friday, 26 September 2008

http://newsbreak.com.ph/images/stories/zoom/subject/security/military/yanoalexander_080808.jpg

Besieged by allegations that it is behind the spate of extrajudicial killings and enforced disappearances in the country, the Armed Forces of the Philippines (AFP) has expressed reservation to a treaty that deals with crimes against humanity, fearing it could be used to discredit the military institution.

But Supreme Court (SC) Chief Justice Reynato Puno disagreed, saying the trend on international jurisprudence is to prosecute serious violations on human rights and an international criminal court “could provide an additional firewall” against violations.

In a paper presented Friday at the concluding day on the conference on the International Criminal Court (ICC), AFP Inspector Gen. Ferdinand Bocobo said that while the adoption of the Rome Statute of the ICC “is a positive step towards upholding the law,” such can be taken advantage of by State enemies to embarrass or shame the government before the international community.

Bocobo, who presented the paper in behalf of AFP Chief of Staff Gen. Alexander Yano, cited the local experience where atrocities and internal purging were committed by State enemies and lawless elements and for which the blame is being put on the military.

“The AFP positively welcomes formal charges made in the courts law…and to indemnify the victims if deemed necessary. However it must be said that in many cases, the lack of witnesses for the successful prosecution is deliberately caused by the insurgents themselves and their allies to prolong the issues to discredit the AFP. The longer the cases drag, the better the enemies can exploit the situation to negatively portray the AFP in a bad light,” he said.

This could explain the government’s continued refusal to adopt the Rome Statute on the ICC, which binds the country to submit itself to the international court to prosecute crimes against humanity, like genocide, war crimes and crime of aggression.

The government is yet to submit to the Senate the Rome Treaty, adopted already by 106 countries, for ratification. The Integrated Bar of the Philippines, in a statement Thursday, said the government’s refusal “is dictated more by politics and power alignments than by a true intent and desire to join the international community in the prosecution of crimes.”

In adopting a wary eye on the ICC, the AFP paper maintained that there exists a “realistic scenario” that the treaty “may serve as a convenient venue for filing partisan and politically-motivated cases of human rights violations against uniformed men to hog-tie our security efforts against terrorists and lawless elements.”


Read full article here (http://newsbreak.com.ph/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=5383&Itemid=88889051)

The Rome treaty should be signed immediately. Such fears of the AFP are groundless. If there is nothing to hide then there is nothing to fear. By being a signatory to the Rome treaty we would be able to put to an impartial court cases of abuse by the AFP or by the rebels. The sword of justice is double edged but will only strike when injustice has been done.

I don't know where to put this one so I think this is OK here.

I like this newly-appointed chief of police

2 cops in hot water over photo-ops (http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/inquirerheadlines/nation/view/20081002-164109/2-cops-in-hot-water-over-photo-ops)

By Alcuin Papa
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 04:28:00 10/02/2008

MANILA, Philippines—Here's a warning to cops who allow the beating of suspected pickpockets, snatchers and other offenders by their victims.

To prove that the Philippine National Police is serious in banning such incidents-a common fixture in TV crime reports-PNP Director General Jesus Verzosa Wednesday ordered the relief of two Muntinlupa City policemen.

"They have been pulled out to undergo lectures, seminars and retraining," Director Jefferson Soriano, the new chief of the National Capital Region Police Office (NCRPO), said in reference to SPO2 Efraim Reyes, desk officer of the Muntinlupa police station, and a police noncommissioned officer who had yet to be named.

According to Supt. Alfredo Valdez, the Muntinlupa police chief, complainant Belinda Balino went to the station on Sunday night after the arrest of one Norlie Sagun.

Recognizing Sagun as the person who snatched her bag at around 10:30 that night on the West Service Road, Balino hit Sagun on the nape.

Both Verzosa and Soriano saw the incident on TV.

First directives

Earlier, Verzosa issued as one of his first directives as new PNP chief the ban on the "firing squad" style presentation of suspects, which, he said, violated their human rights.

Another of his directives was the filing of administrative sanctions against any police officer who allows a crime victim to punch, kick and otherwise hurt the suspected offender during the investigation of the case.

Verzosa said he had ordered Director Geary Barias, the new chief of the PNP Directorial Staff, to release the formal guidelines of the ban by Monday.

"Anybody who violates these guidelines will be administratively charged," Verzosa said.

He said crime victims and their kin who hurt the suspects, and even members of the media encouraging the acts of violence, could also be charged.

He added that the police should "respect the dignity of every human person as enshrined in the Constitution."

No sanctions yet

Soriano said no administrative sanction would be filed against the two Muntinlupa officers who allowed the beating of Sagun because the PNP leadership had yet to issue formal guidelines on the ban.

He said the two officers could be reinstated after retraining.

Valdez said the incident in Muntinlupa occurred on Sunday, and that the ban was announced by Verzosa only on Monday, during the NCRPO turnover ceremonies.

But Verzosa announced the ban right after assuming the PNP top post on Saturday.

2 C-130s set to join Air Force fleet
By James Mananghaya
October 6, 2008

Air Force chief Lt. Gen. Pedrito Cadungog reported that the Armed
Forces will finally activate two newly refurbished C-130 Hercules
cargo planes this month after another military cargo aircraft
crashed at the Davao Gulf last August.

Cadungog said the two aircraft would be operational after the
engines have been refitted and a series of tests to check that all
systems are completed.

"These functional tests are to ensure that all systems have no
defects," he said.

The PAF is also planning to repair another C-130 next year if funds
would be available to buy spare parts and other equipment, so that
the Air Force will have four operating C-130 cargo planes.

The fourth cargo plane could join the fleet in two years because the
repair and evaluation could take more than a year.

Military officials said that after the crash of the cargo plane off
Davao City, combat units have relied on Navy ships to transport
troops and equipment, particularly in the ongoing offensive
operations against the Moro Islamic Liberation Front in Mindanao.

A source said that investigation conducted by the PAF revealed that
bad weather caused the ill-fated C-130 cargo plane's pilots to lose
control of the aircraft that crashed in the Davao Gulf, killing all
11 people on board.

The source said the investigating team focused their work on bad
weather as the major factor that caused the accident, dismissing the
theory that the aircraft crashed due to sabotage.

The report was based on facts, eyewitness accounts, and similar
accidents of the same type of aircraft that were caused by bad
weather.

Sources said the result of the investigation, though not clearly
conclusive after the wreckage of the aircraft was not recovered from
the deep waters of the Davao Gulf, would compel the PAF to adjust
its safety procedures regarding flying through rain clouds and
thunderstorms.

The US Navy oceanographic vessel USS McDonnel found the wreckage
last Sept. 5 in the area where the cargo plane reportedly crashed.

^^ Thing is.... they should have been designed to counter bad weather since it's a military plane.. it is supposed to go through in any condition.

^It is a workhorse. Fatigue catches up with anything that is overworked. Considering it was well maintained, 2 serviceable Hercs is not sufficient enough to cover the needs of 7100 islands!

Sometimes its really hard to believe that an all-weather designed aircraft crashed, due to some bad weather condition.

^ 3 Words: It's man made!

O baka naman inatake sa puso yung pilto nang biglang kumidlat kaya na lost-control sya.... Anyway, the investigation is done. Yes its true, it is just a man-made aircraft that was designed w/ an all-weather capabilities. Considered it as some human error that had contributed of this crash, as the investigation concluded the "lost-control" situation.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/29016195@N05/2849115144/sizes/m/in/photostream/

look at thesse photos...! may mga ganito pala tayo dati, nasan na kaya itong mga ito...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/29016195@N05/2849115144/sizes/m/in/photostream/

look at thesse photos...! may mga ganito pala tayo dati, nasan na kaya itong mga ito...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3081/2849115144_6feb4420cd_o.jpg

WOA Pi, where did u get that photo? Sure this photo will make some noise! Those were my long awaited photo evidence tat our former president did actually conducted various missile tests while pursuing the discovery of rocketry technology! Thank for sharing!

Meron pa nga tayng mga medium battle tanks noon eh, like this one:



PICTURE CREDITS:

pictures are courtesy of another forum : PHILIPPINE REENACTORS FORUM
http://pinoyhistory.proboards22.com/index.cgi?
and
ONESIXTHWORRIORS.COM c/o SIR LEGIONNAIRE


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June 12, 1961 The new Philippine Independence Day, Quirino Grandstand, Luneta Park, Manila, Philippines

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k139/dober_2006/manuevers_Fort_Magsaysay_re.jpg
"Daisy Mae" on Manuevers at Fort Magsaysay

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k139/dober_2006/daisymae.jpg
The Late Mrs. Daisy Mae Ortega with escort.


Anyway, some latest update again:


PNP adds armored fighting vehicles for internal security
10/07/2008 | 05:05 PM

MANILA, Philippines - The Philippine National Police has added nine armored fighting vehicles to boost its tactical capability in anti-criminality and anti-insurgency operations.

An article on the PNP website said PNP chief Dir. Gen. Jesus Verzosa turned over the nine refurbished V-150 vehicles to the Special Action Force (SAF) in Bicutan, Taguig City.

"These fighting vehicles, in a large measure, will give a big boost to our anti-criminality and internal security operations especially in situations where the SAF is called-in to provide tactical support," Verzosa said.

He cited the recent tactical offensive of SAF in Compostela Valley where it overran two main camps of the New People's Army (NPA).

But he said the mission would have been completed much earlier had there been light armor support to back the ground troops.

"With these new equipment and the awesome firepower, maneuverability and armor protection it provides to our fighting men in the field, the PNP is now in a better and more advantageous position to perform the role and responsibility in internal security operations as contained in Executive Order 546," Verzosa said.

Made in the US by Cadillac Gage,the V-150 fighting vehicles have been in service in the country's police and military forces since the 1980s.

Recently, the PNP refurbished some unserviceable units in its fleet under the V-150 Rehabilitation Program of the PNP Logistics Support Service (LSS).

LSS Director Chief Supt. Teodorico Lapuz IV said 13 V-150 units have been refurbished, restored and re-fitted to its original condition and technical specifications.

He said they are currently in service with the SAF, Regional Mobile Groups, and other PNP Operational Support Units.

The LSS has also refurbished other types of tactical and support vehicles in the PNP fleet such as the M35 6x6 trucks, Hummer multi-purpose vehicles, and troop carriers, Lapuz said. - GMANews.TV

^^ wow how'd you do that..?? :D

here's some more...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/29016195@N05/2849115216/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/29016195@N05/2848282727/

these photos are from mr. yman_diesel_ud of flickr....:)

Philippine AIr Force Seeking New Utility Chppers
Wednesday, October 08, 2008 12:27:55 PM

http://www.mindanaoexaminer.com/photo.php?filename=gallery/20081007232755_0.jpg

TAIPEI (NSI News Source Info / Oct. 8, 2008) - The Philippine Air Force (PAF) is still determined to procure new combat utility helicopters (CUH) despite serious tender issues, though other options are being explored.

Due to the ongoing insurgency in the south, President Gloria Arroyo in December 2006 required the military "to achieve a strategic defeat of the communist terrorist movement by 2010, to destroy all Abu Sayaff and other terrorist groups, and to contain the secessionist groups in order to establish a physically and psychologically secure environment conducive to national development."

The PAF needs to increase its helicopter fleet to meet this mandate. The Joint U.S. Military Assistance Group at the U.S. Embassy in Manila is providing 20 refurbished UH-1Hs to augment the PAF's 45 operational Huey helicopters as part of the increase. Ten were delivered in June 2007 and an additional 10 will be delivered by the end of this year.

The 20 helicopters were refurbished through the U.S. Foreign Military Financing program at a cost of $22 million. The United States has given about $30 million in Foreign Military Financing to the Philippines over the past two years.

The PAF conducted the first round of bidding for its eight new CUH requirement Sept. 5. AgustaWestland, the only company that submitted a tender, was disqualified since its bid did not meet the specifications of the bid document.

A pre-bid conference was held Sept. 19 for the rebidding for the CUH. Representatives of AgustaWestland, Bell Helicopter, McDonnell Douglas and PZL Swidnik attended the conference, and the rebid was rescheduled for Oct. 9.

A U.S. source said that the first CUH bidding failed primarily due to the inability of helicopter manufacturers to meet the PAF's 3,000-pound payload requirement with the given $68 million total program budget, which includes the actual fly-away unit cost of the CUH, spare parts, training, shipping costs, taxes and currency fluctuation.

However, specified requirements limit the type of aircraft being offered.
"The normal helicopters that offer approximately 3,000-pound payloads are the Bell 412EP, Eurocopter EC155, Sikorsky S-76 and AgustaWestland AW139," a U.S. source said. "I do not think any of these helicopters have 3,000 pounds payload with full fuel, as required, but all offer 3,000 pounds payload at the specified range and endurance missions (less than full fuel)."

Because the specifications and budget remain the same, the source said, the upcoming rebidding for the CUH requirement is also expected to fail.

"They added that none of those who participated in the pre-bid conference could meet both the payload requirement and program budget," the source said.

"The PAF would have to increase their budget by about 50 percent to enable manufacturers to tender bids that will meet payload requirements."

A PAF white paper on the CUH is calling for "prudence and cost-efficiency in the purchase of helicopters."

The white paper considers two viable options if the Oct. 9 bidding process fails again:

First, amend the specifications allowing more bidders to participate in the tender. Specifications will have to reduce the external payload or increase the unit price.

"This, however, poses more problems than finding a solution," according to the paper. "Decreasing the payload affects the overall effectiveness and capabilities by increasing logistical requirements to achieve mission goals. On the other hand, increasing the price per unit decreases the number of helicopters purchased."

Second, shift funds to upgrade at least 20 existing UH-1H Hueys to the Huey II.

"While not brand new, this option will essentially give the PAF operational capability in terms of payload and power to fulfill its missions," the white paper states.

The Philippines' long history with the UH-1 - maintenance and training facilities are already in place - make the second option attractive.

Maintenance of the Huey II could be undertaken by the 410th Maintenance Wing, which conducted the upgrade of the Huey IIs of the 505th Search and Rescue Wing. The two operational lines could upgrade and maintain the Huey IIs.

sana meron din tayong Military Festival..ung pinaparada nila yung mga Tanks, Missiles and etc sa May Luneta Park tulad sa South Korea and China...pra malaman ng mga na ang Philippine airforce ay matatag Parin and may kakayahang ipagtangol ang ating bayan...

sana meron din tayong Military Festival..ung pinaparada nila yung mga Tanks, Missiles and etc sa May Luneta Park tulad sa South Korea and China...pra malaman ng mga na ang Philippine airforce ay matatag Parin and may kakayahang ipagtangol ang ating bayan...

Ano ka ba, every june 12th independence day celebration meron tayong military parade....

About the bidding of CUH, i guess the only solution is to increase the budget para wala nang problema kasi!

^^ Nang buhay pa yung "Blue Diamonds"(F-86 Sabres and later), maganda ang military parade during Independence Day. But that was then and this is now!.. Kawawa talaga ang PAF.

Senate in executive session on Mindanao

Secretary Teodoro made request in budget hearing

By Maila Ager
INQUIRER.net (http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/nation/view/20081009-165473/Senate-in-executive-session-on-Mindanao)
First Posted 12:05:00 10/09/2008

MANILA, Philippines -- The Senate finance sub-committee is holding an executive session to hear the military's briefing on the Mindanao situation.

It was Defense Secretary Gilbert Teodoro, who requested the closed-door meeting, after he presented the P56.5 billion 2009 budget proposal of the Department of National Defense Thursday.

Only Senators’ Juan Ponce-Enrile and Rodolfo Biazon were present at the hearing.

I found these various photos took by some fellow pinoy, a former fulltime journalist, shots taken during the recent crisis in mindanao:
http://www.pbase.com/timonera/lanaowar08
http://www.pbase.com/timonera/image/102133237
http://k43.pbase.com/o6/43/49643/1/102133235.GduTBI15.22_6138.jpg
http://k53.pbase.com/o6/43/49643/1/102133240.89RvtaX8.24_6169.jpg
http://i.pbase.com/o6/43/49643/1/102132908.wTrdLSAH.IMG_5725.jpg
http://k43.pbase.com/o6/43/49643/1/102132912.SQNPEbv6.IMG_5738.jpg
http://k41.pbase.com/o6/43/49643/1/102132916.K3ev9ZzZ.IMG_5740.jpg
http://k43.pbase.com/o6/43/49643/1/102132962.NgtErtT0.IMG_5999.jpg

wow, pershings ba yun?

sana meron din tayong Military Festival..ung pinaparada nila yung mga Tanks, Missiles and etc sa May Luneta Park tulad sa South Korea and China...pra malaman ng mga na ang Philippine airforce ay matatag Parin and may kakayahang ipagtangol ang ating bayan...

Philippine Military is secretive. They don't want people and neighboring countries to fret when they see our F-16, blackhawks and Frigates. :lol:

Kidding aside, they should rather parade those high-end SUV's of generals during those kind of celebrations. :bash:

Witht the newly discovered oil deposits, and the initial pumping of oil at Galoc Oil Field Platform, this may benefit our military soon, indeed and very well good timing for our modernization.

Front Lines by Ed Lingao
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Basilan Encounter Part3
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Ang daming pera pala ng PNP --- :lol:

PNP clarifies Moscow incident (http://www.philstar.com/index.php?Headlines&p=49&type=2&sec=24&aid=2008101574)
By Jaime Laude
Thursday, October 16, 2008

The Philippine National Police (PNP) said yesterday that the 105,000 euros or P6.9 million intercepted by customs authorities in Russia from a member of the Philippine delegation to the International Police (Interpol) conference is clean and part of the group’s contingency fund.

Chief Superintendent Nicanor Bartolome, PNP spokesman, said the money found by customs authorities at the airport in Moscow in the bag of former PNP comptroller Director Eliseo de la Paz on Saturday is the contingency fund of the eight-man police delegation that attended the 77th Interpol general assembly in St. Petersburg (formerly Leningrad).

De la Paz was carrying 105,000 euros, contrary to reports that he was in possession of 10 million euros, when he was held at Moscow’s Sheremetyevo airport last Saturday while the police officials were about to board the plane bound for Manila.

“Let me make it clear that no member of the PNP delegation has been arrested or detained. De la Paz is now staying at a hotel in Moscow near the Philippine Embassy and is waiting for the official documents that will be translated into Russian and forwarded to the customs authorities,” Bartolome told reporters.

The documents were issued by the PNP leadership to prove that the money in question belonged to the PNP and only released to De la Paz as the designated disbursing officer of the delegates to the Interpol convention.

“Before the delegation left to attend the 77th Interpol General Assembly in Russia, De la Paz signed for a cash advance in the amount of P6.9 million as contingency fund which is intended to support other activities and incidental expenses of the group during their stay in Russia,” Bartolome said.

De la Paz, who retired on Oct. 9 while attending the convention from Oct. 7 to 10, is still accountable for the PNP contingency funds released to him.

Questioned why De la Paz was sent to Moscow despite his impending retirement, Bartolome explained his inclusion in the delegation had been approved during the term of then PNP chief now retired Director General Avelino Razon Jr.

Bartolome furnished an approved copy of the travel order dated Sept. 4, 2008 to attend the Interpol convention of De La Paz, Deputy Directors General Emmanuel Carta, Ismael Rafanan, Directors Romeo Ricardo, Silverio Alarcio, German Doria and Superintendent Elmer Pelobello, who is the aide of the delegation.

The travel order, which was furnished to the Department of Foreign Affairs (DFA) by the Department of the Interior and Local Government (DILG), also indicated that the PNP would shoulder the delegation’s travel expenses worth P2.3 million.

Bartolome was also included in the travel order approved by DILG Secretary Ronaldo Puno. But because of the ankle injury he sustained during a basketball game, Bartolome’s place was delegated to Director Jaime Caringal who was issued a separate travel order.

“It is already a practice of all Interpol-member countries to send their most senior police officers to the convention. That is why we sent our three- and two-star generals to the event,” he said.

As for the PNP delegates who were traveling with their wives, Bartolome said they were also invited to attend functions arranged by Interpol women.

But Bartolome stressed the women were traveling on their own as the PNP is authorized only to shoulder the travel costs of its officers.

De la Paz and his wife, who was not immediately identified, are now staying at a Moscow hotel pending the completion of the investigation by Russian authorities. Caringal and his wife have stayed behind in Moscow to accompany the De la Paz couple, while the other police officials have left Russia.

De la Paz told GMA Channel 7 that there is nothing illegal in the money they brought along, which is just a contingency fund for the delegation.

He said the only lapse he made was his failure to declare the money to Russian authorities.

Puno, on other hand, made it clear that as far as the DILG is concerned there was nothing wrong about De la Paz carrying the contingency funds.

He said the National Police Commission (Napolcom) would be conducting an investigation if only to clear misconceptions about the Moscow incident.

“We will look into this. We will not act based on presumptions. We are going after him (De la Paz) if there’s something illegal in his case,” Puno said.

He said that De la Paz was already on his way out of Moscow when checked by Customs authorities with the PNP contingency funds still with him.

He said that De la Paz should make a report about the expenses as the disbursing officer of the delegation when he returns to Manila.

Opposition Sen. Francis Escudero doubted yesterday the explanation of Puno and the PNP that there was nothing illegal about the big sum of money found in the possession of the police official who was prevented from leaving Moscow last weekend.

“PNP director for comptroller Eliseo de la Paz has a lot of explaining to do when he gets back, along with the PNP officials because I doubt if that’s how official business is transacted and carried out, if indeed he is a member of the official delegation as what Secretary Puno said,” Escudero said.

“It leaves too many questions – why bring cash and why that much cash,” the senator added. - With Edu Punay, Marvin Sy, Christina Mendez

^^ interesante eto VV:

Before the delegation left to attend the 77th Interpol General Assembly in Russia, De la Paz signed for a cash advance in the amount of P6.9 million as contingency fund which is intended to support other activities and incidental expenses of the group during their stay in Russia


In other news...
i suddenly had a vision of Africa's diamond mines and their armed guards http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/455000/images/_457224_ruf150.jpg (photo from bbc.com (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/455000/images/_457224_ruf150.jpg&imgrefurl=http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/457224.stm&h=180&w=150&sz=9&hl=en&start=313&um=1&usg=__ZSUPJ7GJB2KjPl5_SBwbj4uCyoU=&tbnid=IINGElEERr1wKM:&tbnh=101&tbnw=84&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dsirra%2Bleone%2Bdi%2Bcaprio%26start%3D300%26ndsp%3D20%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26rls%3Dcom.microsoft:en-us%26sa%3DN)) when i read this :lol: VV:

Mining companies allowed to create their own armed groups
10/16/2008 | 06:07 PM

MANILA, Philippines - Philippine mining companies will be allowed to create their own security groups, the country’s defense chief said on Thursday.

Also known as civilian auxiliary armed groups (CAGs), these groups will be subsumed under the Philippine military and will be allowed to carry only low-caliber guns, Defense Secretary Gilberto C. Teodoro told reporters while attending opening ceremonies of the ASEAN Ministerial Meeting at the Hotel Sofitel Philippine Plaza Manila.

Local miners will be allowed to have as much armed men “as necessary depending on the threat level and the terrain" as long as each company “enters into a memorandum of agreement with the Armed Forces of the Philippines (AFP)," Teodoro said.

An Investment Security Plan based on protocols of AFP’s agreement with the Philippine National Police can also be developed, he added, saying that damages from terrorist attacks on mine sites have reached P12.5 million.

Mineral extraction is expected to bring an estimated $4 billion to $6 billion in investments, $5 billion to $7 billion in foreign exchange, and generate at least 240,000 jobs for the next six years.

Australia’s El Dore, Switzerland’s Xstrata Plc and Canada’s TVI Resources Development Philippines Inc. have reported incidents of harassment from terrorist groups. These companies have operations in Camarines Norte, Tampakan near General Santos City, and Zamboanga del Sur, respectively. - GMANews.TV (http://www.gmanews.tv/story/127488/Mining-companies-allowed-to-create-their-own-armed-groups)

^^ interesante eto VV:




In other news...
i suddenly had a vision of Africa's diamond mines and their armed guards http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/455000/images/_457224_ruf150.jpg (photo from bbc.com (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/455000/images/_457224_ruf150.jpg&imgrefurl=http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/457224.stm&h=180&w=150&sz=9&hl=en&start=313&um=1&usg=__ZSUPJ7GJB2KjPl5_SBwbj4uCyoU=&tbnid=IINGElEERr1wKM:&tbnh=101&tbnw=84&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dsirra%2Bleone%2Bdi%2Bcaprio%26start%3D300%26ndsp%3D20%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26rls%3Dcom.microsoft:en-us%26sa%3DN)) when i read this :lol: VV:

Mining companies allowed to create their own armed groups
10/16/2008 | 06:07 PM

MANILA, Philippines - Philippine mining companies will be allowed to create their own security groups, the country’s defense chief said on Thursday.

Also known as civilian auxiliary armed groups (CAGs), these groups will be subsumed under the Philippine military and will be allowed to carry only low-caliber guns, Defense Secretary Gilberto C. Teodoro told reporters while attending opening ceremonies of the ASEAN Ministerial Meeting at the Hotel Sofitel Philippine Plaza Manila.

Local miners will be allowed to have as much armed men “as necessary depending on the threat level and the terrain" as long as each company “enters into a memorandum of agreement with the Armed Forces of the Philippines (AFP)," Teodoro said.

An Investment Security Plan based on protocols of AFP’s agreement with the Philippine National Police can also be developed, he added, saying that damages from terrorist attacks on mine sites have reached P12.5 million.

Mineral extraction is expected to bring an estimated $4 billion to $6 billion in investments, $5 billion to $7 billion in foreign exchange, and generate at least 240,000 jobs for the next six years.

Australia’s El Dore, Switzerland’s Xstrata Plc and Canada’s TVI Resources Development Philippines Inc. have reported incidents of harassment from terrorist groups. These companies have operations in Camarines Norte, Tampakan near General Santos City, and Zamboanga del Sur, respectively. - GMANews.TV (http://www.gmanews.tv/story/127488/Mining-companies-allowed-to-create-their-own-armed-groups)

wow! parang blackwater lang a... ano ba naman ang AFP, baka gusto nila i-hire mga taga-Lord's Revolutionary Army sa Africa. O kaya yung mga mercenary na Afrikaaner sa Blomfontein. :ohno:

[QUOTE=spearhead;26392028]I found these various photos took by some fellow pinoy, a former fulltime journalist, shots taken during the recent crisis in mindanao:

http://k43.pbase.com/o6/43/49643/1/102133235.GduTBI15.22_6138.jpg
http://k53.pbase.com/o6/43/49643/1/102133240.89RvtaX8.24_6169.jpg

i know these guys... hehehe from 8LAC to!

[QUOTE=spearhead;26392028]I found these various photos took by some fellow pinoy, a former fulltime journalist, shots taken during the recent crisis in mindanao:

http://k43.pbase.com/o6/43/49643/1/102133235.GduTBI15.22_6138.jpg
http://k53.pbase.com/o6/43/49643/1/102133240.89RvtaX8.24_6169.jpg

i know these guys... hehehe from 8LAC to!

Sundalo ka ba sir rage@cebu? :)

Ano ka ba, every june 12th independence day celebration meron tayong military parade....

About the bidding of CUH, i guess the only solution is to increase the budget para wala nang problema kasi!

we have a big budget for our afp. our afp is just not that well structure. they tend to go with quantity not with quality. mas marami pa ata general kesa sa airplanes natin! hehe! FUCK those Mothersucking Generals!!! kawawa mga sundalo natin!!!

AFP to give P1.7M to develop RP robot MAKATI, Philippines – The Armed Forces of the Philippines (AFP) is interested to fund further development of a locally made mechanical anti-terrorist concept or “MAC” robot that was initially funded by the Philippine National Police, a lead developer told INQUIRER.net.

MAC lead developer John Judilla of the Mapua Institute of Technology said the AFP will provide funding of about P1.7 million to improve the MAC.

Currently, the MAC team is working to produce a cheaper version of the anti-terrorist robot with a slew of enhancements, he added.

Judilla said the new MAC will use lighter Lithium polymer batteries and fiber glass for body frame to make it lighter.

The prototype uses lead-acid batteries and has a metal body frame. The tilt of the video camera on the gripper was also adjusted to allow the operator better control of the MAC.

Judilla said they will also make the new version capable of operating underwater and be able to go up and down staircases. Like the prototype, the new version will operate using 12 volts input/output of power.

At present, the team is looking up for a manufacturer willing to mass produce the enhanced MAC.

“If we are able to mass produce the MAC, we plan to sell each unit at P100,000,” said Judilla.

Mining countries Cambodia and Laos can benefit from low-cost alternative technologies like this, he said.

“Right now, the trend is affordable, advanced technology. So instead of focusing on the materials to use, we have shown that through the MAC you can invent a smart technology from cheaper materials via engineering process innovation,” said Judilla.

“Key to this process innovation is a good foundation in basic science and engineering,” said Judilla.

He cited as example of this process innovation a design modification they implemented on the prototype MAC so they can work within the P300,000 development budget from the Philippine National Police.

During the prototype’s development, the team considered buying more powerful torque motors than the one they bought so the robot will lift objects.

Focusing on low-cost development, the team instead used a simple compound pulley system to increase the torque effectively so the arm can lift 5kg-objects even with the use of a medium-sized high torque motor, said Judilla.

Last month, the prototype MAC robot won first place at the First World Cup on Computer Implemented Inventions in China, competing against 18 countries and over 40 inventions.

After the competition, the team has received interest for intensive collaboration with a foreign university, said Judilla.

A publisher of elementary and science high school science books also requested for the MAC to be featured in its future paperback edition.

During his presentation at the international competition, Judilla told judges that the MAC is a symbol of national pride, self reliance and technology capability.

With the MAC, they hope to reinvent robots in the Philippines, particularly those used in bomb disposal.

“We envision that U.S. and European institutions will eye MAC as an alternative robotics technology in terms of competitive pricing,” said Judilla.

The MAC team has started showcasing the robot in different locations.

Last week, it joined other school inventions at the Intellectual Property Office-Department of Trade and Industry in Makati. Starting November 4, it will be displayed at the SMX Mall of Asia in Pasig.

Meanwhile, the MAC developer team has filed for a utility model upgrade to invention patent at the Intellectual Property Office for the technology.
http://technology.inquirer.net/infotech/infotech/view/20081103-170022/AFP-to-give-P17M-to-develop-RP-robot

wow hindi man lang nabangit ang mapua sa article... the school who did the design and prototype.

ang mga sundalo natin, handang mamatay sa bayan. sana nman yung mga kagamitan nila yung the "best" our country could have. i saw sa news that our soldiers are using .30 cal MG, while yung mga MILF are using .50 cal. tsk 3x

not necessarily mas maganda ang 50s. depende sa tactics. mahirap bitbitin ang 50, usually nasa static location iyan or mounted.

mas useful sa bundok ang saw at ang mga antigong 30s. meron din tayong AGL na mas maganda kaysa 50s.

kung military nut ka punta ka sa www.timawa.net maganda discussions duon at bihira ang mga nagdudunong-dunongan. napapagalitan kasi ni adroth the moderator at nabibisto ng mga members. :lol:

we have a big budget for our afp. our afp is just not that well structure. they tend to go with quantity not with quality. mas marami pa ata general kesa sa airplanes natin! hehe! FUCK those Mothersucking Generals!!! kawawa mga sundalo natin!!!


very well said ..!! Tumpak ka jan tol ..!! dapat sa mga heneral nasa battle ground pirme ..!!

Magkaroon sana ng project ang RP Government para ma enhance natin un mga locally made ship, armored/Military vehicle ...pati un mga gawang pinas na mga baril ..!! tsk tsk ..!!

Puro kasi palpak na bidding dapat sa kanila itapon sa iwahig ..!! ^8^v

Kelan ba naman kasi nagkaroon ng proper bidding sa PINAS..!?

SAYS OFFICIAL
RP Navy eyes bomb disposal robot

By Anna Valmero
INQUIRER.net (http://technology.inquirer.net/infotech/infotech/view/20081106-170556/RP-Navy-eyes-bomb-disposal-robot)
First Posted 09:29:00 11/06/2008

PASIG City, Philippines -- The enhanced version of the Philippine-made mechanical anti-terrorist concept (MAC) bomb disposal robot will be designed for use in water, a Philippine Navy official told INQUIRER.net.

In an interview, Cdr. Rodrigo Jaca of the Philippine Navy of the Naval Sea Systems Command Cavite Unit, said that the Philippine Navy will benefit from the enhanced version of the bomb disposal robot developed by a team from the Mapua Institute of Technology.

MAC lead developer and engineer John Judilla said the enhanced MAC version will become a prototype for Philippine Navy’s “Project Smart.”

Development of the Navy’s Project Smart will get a funding of P1.7 million.

Jaca said the request for funding is undergoing deliberation at the Armed Forces of the Philippines (AFP), the mother arm of Philippine Navy as well as the Philippine Air Force and the Philippine Army.

The Navy official said that when the funding reaches final deliberation from the Department of Defense, the funding will be released via the AFP and the development of the improved MAC will commence immediately.

Project Smart will include enhancements of the MAC prototype, which was announced previously by Judilla. Jaca, however, said in an interview with INQUIRER.net that it was premature to announce other features as of yet, apart from the idea that it will operate on water.

The Project Smart bomb disposal unit is one of four other technologies the Philippine Navy has proposed for this year under its Self-Reliance Defense Posture (SRDP), an AFP modernization program aimed to develop technologies for low to medium level threats by tapping local capability.

Other projects include a submersible robot launched last week, an unmanned surface vessel or “Seadroid” and a wireless trident strike Philippine machine gun, an update of the wired 2005 version.

Currently in development, the submersible robot is designed to reduce the Navy frog mans sent during underwater rescue operations, especially during the rescue of survivors in sunken ships.

Meanwhile, the Seadroid is designed to help automate reconnaissance patrol and reduce sending personnel far from the Navy base. It can cover up to 2 nautical miles and is operated wirelessly from the base.

Jaca said the Navy’s SRDP 2009 program will focus on firepower preservation aboard ship and ashore. Another technology under development is the rust converter paint, which can help reduce and prevent metal disintegration caused by rust.

Issuance of funding is the man challenge for the development of the technologies, said Jaca.

In terms of collaboration with other state universities for technology development, the Navy official said it was open to partnerships.

The Philippine Navy official said that they find it easier to work with local universities like Mapua since they can easily tap local experts like Judilla who is also a Navy lieutenant.

^^nice progress I hope it won't be stopped.

PNP eyes 2-blotter system amid criticisms over new policy
11/07/2008 | 07:41 AM

MANILA, Philippines - After getting flak over its new policy to limit media access to police blotters, the Philippine National Police is now toying with the idea of a two-blotter setup in its stations.

PNP spokesman Chief Supt. Nicanor Bartolome said Friday the second blotter will contain information that the complainant wishes to keep confidential.

"Pinag-iisipan natin kailangan sa blotter ang regular blotter at confidential blotter na di muna dapat ipakita (We are thinking of a two-blotter system with a regular blotter and a confidential blotter)," Bartolome said in an interview on dzBB radio.

He said the "regular" blotter would contain details of cases that are considered "minor," including reports involving violence and crimes against women.

But the confidential blotter will involve cases involving misunderstandings where only one side of the story has been recorded.

Bartolome said that this time, the PNP plans to consult the proposal with media groups and other affected sectors.

"Dito natin kokonsultahin ang dapat konsultahan (We will consult who needs to be consulted)," he said.

However, Bartolome defended the new policy to limit media access to blotters, saying it was a "misunderstood" order and meant to promote decentralization of functions.

The system is also meant to protect the identities of the victims and suspects in cases, he said.

"Kailangan pagusapan sa head of office or ang kanyang representative or any pertinent authority (All that is needed is to talk to the head of office of a representative or pertinent authority)," he said.

"Marami kaming natatanggap na request kung pwede huwag muna ilabas ang ganitong entry sa blotter (We have been receiving many requests from concerned people not to make the details of their cases in blotters immediately known to media)," he added. - GMANews.TV (http://www.gmanews.tv/story/131997/PNP-eyes-2-blotter-system-amid-criticisms-over-new-policy)

Whatever happened to the RP law/claim for Kalayaan? Has it been resolved? When is the dealine for that?

Walang pagasa ang Military natin, Sana sakupin nalang uli tayo ng America.

^^'dre limitado siguro ang alam mo tungkol sa mga sundalo't pulis natin kaya mo nasabi iyan.

Walang pagasa ang Military natin, Sana sakupin nalang uli tayo ng America.

pag nasakop tayo uli ng america asahan mong magrerebelde ako.

napanood ko yung interview ni mr.shooli sa isang spokeperson ng afp, tanong ni mr.shooli, kung paano daw kung sakupin tayo ng korea, eh wala naman daw tayong malalaking bapor at eroplano, anu daw gagawin.

sagot ni spokeperson, magaling naman daw tayo sa guerilla warfare.

napanood ko yung interview ni mr.shooli sa isang spokeperson ng afp, tanong ni mr.shooli, kung paano daw kung sakupin tayo ng korea, eh wala naman daw tayong malalaking bapor at eroplano, anu daw gagawin.

sagot ni spokeperson, magaling naman daw tayo sa guerilla warfare.

WTF! magpapaka NPA, abu sayyaf at MILF tayo para manalo..:lol:

"He will win who knows when to fight and when not to fight. He will win who knows how to handle both superior and inferior forces."

Sun Tzu, The Art of War

pag nasakop tayo uli ng america asahan mong magrerebelde ako.

ako din.

WTF! magpapaka NPA, abu sayyaf at MILF tayo para manalo..:lol:

basahin mo history books mo, ginamit ng republican army ng Malolos Republic ni Aguinaldo yun laban sa kano. Ginamit rin yun ng mga Filipino laban sa hapon. ginamit rin yun ng mga vietnamese laban sa kano... at natalo ang kano pero ayaw nilang aminin.

basahin mo history books mo, ginamit ng republican army ng Malolos Republic ni Aguinaldo yun laban sa kano. Ginamit rin yun ng mga Filipino laban sa hapon. ginamit rin yun ng mga vietnamese laban sa kano... at natalo ang kano pero ayaw nilang aminin.

Oo nga tama ka pero nung binanggit mo si Emilio Aguinaldo hindi ko ata gusto yun kasi traitor s'ya.

Try to read Andres Bonifacio bibliography in wikipedia and you will see who really killed Andres Bonifacio.:ohno:

^ you see, from the start, hinde talaga nagkakaisa mga pilipino... si lapu2x sya lang lumaban, yung iba nag pa binyag na lang...

Oo nga kahit ang pinaka una nating pangulo is nandaya at pumatay pa.

kung nanalo tayo sa americans at japanese using guerilla tactics then paano kaya natin matatalo using our bullshit, corrupt, inutile military againts the npa's, milf's and abu sayyaf's?

Philippine Military is bullshit!!!

kawawa mga rank and file na sundalo!!!!

Oo nga tama ka pero nung binanggit mo si Emilio Aguinaldo hindi ko ata gusto yun kasi traitor s'ya.

Try to read Andres Bonifacio bibliography in wikipedia and you will see who really killed Andres Bonifacio.:ohno:

alam ko rin yun kasi history graduate ako. ang punto doon kapatid, ginamit na ang guerilla warfare ng pilipino. at hindi dapat ikahiya yun dahil kahit anong pinakamodernong kagamitan kayang talunin ng isang gerilya na may AK-47 o RPG.

kung nanalo tayo sa americans at japanese using guerilla tactics then paano kaya natin matatalo using our bullshit, corrupt, inutile military againts the npa's, milf's and abu sayyaf's?

Philippine Military is bullshit!!!

kawawa mga rank and file na sundalo!!!!

kung natalo tayo sa kano usapin na yun ng tactics. Pero wala pa ring conventional warfare ang nakakatalo sa guerilla type warfare. kaya nga ang strategy ng US sa iraq ay gumamit ng maliliit na units ng army na suportado ng aircraft units nya para matalo yung iraqi insurgents.

1 dead, 13 hurt in PNPA training blast (http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/regions/view/20081110-171400/1-dead-13-hurt-in-PNPA-training-blast)

By Abigail Kwok, Maricar Cinco
Southern Luzon Bureau
First Posted 22:55:00 11/10/2008

SAN PEDRO, Laguna – (UPDATE 2) An instructor at the Philippine National Police Academy (PNPA), Silang Cavite, was killed and 13 trainees hurt Monday when a rifle grenade "prematurely or accidentally" exploded during a training of the Special Action Force (SAF) around 4:30 p.m, an official said.

The victim, identified as Police Officer 2 Maño Rexel Carido, 32, a SAF instructor, was dead on arrival at the hospital, said Senior Inspector Michael Batoctoy, deputy police chief at the Silang Municipal
Police Office.

Initial police reports said 13 commando trainees were injured in the blast. They were brought to the Adventist University of the Philippines hospital.

Bactotoy said over the phone that the incident was still under investigation.

In a separate interview with INQUIRER.net in Manila, Chief Superintendent Ricardo Padilla, CALABARZON (Cavite, Laguna, Batangas, Rizal, and Quezon) regional police chief, identified the 12 of the 13 as Inspector Frederick Sa-Ao, 27; PO2 Joel Jose Cacal, 27; PO2 Andy Boy Moya, 29; PO1 Junjun Paray, 27; PO1 Dennis Labrador, 30;

PO1 Jacky Quirod, 29; PO1 Robert Tabuoria, 31; PO1 Dennis Aldueza, 28; PO1 Melchor Molzes, 29; PO1 Ronald Antonio Abbarlao, 27; PO1 Gerald Alusta, 27; and PO1 Paulino Doyola, 29.

Philippine military is still bullshit!!! i was so sad then when i didnt pass the pma exams in V. LUNA. buti nlng talaga d ako nakapasa!!!

sobrang kawawa mga sundalo!!! gusto ko pa naman sanang maging airforce pilot nuon.

Philippine military is still bullshit!!! i was so sad then when i didnt pass the pma exams in V. LUNA. buti nlng talaga d ako nakapasa!!!

sobrang kawawa mga sundalo!!! gusto ko pa naman sanang maging airforce pilot nuon.

kaya pala. bagsakero ka pala. :lol:

pa-ulit ulit ka na lang nagto-troll.

Any updates dun sa barako ng steel craft..?

bato-bato sa langit :

ayer ang tawag duon. hina mo talaga utoy :nuts:

pustahan tayo, ni hindi alam kung ano ang dialectical materialism :lol:

Walang pagasa ang Military natin, Sana sakupin nalang uli tayo ng America.

this time wala nang lalaban uh :lol:

philippine military still sucks!

Philippine military is still bullshit!!! i was so sad then when i didnt pass the pma exams in V. LUNA. buti nlng talaga d ako nakapasa!!!

sobrang kawawa mga sundalo!!! gusto ko pa naman sanang maging airforce pilot nuon.

sobrang dali lang ng entrance exam sa pma parang entrance exam lang sa mga b-list colleges and univs:bash:

He mentioned V. Luna Hospital.

If not for our Philippine Military, our life would not be like this. Thank to them.

^^ Sa wakas nakarinig din ng maganda para sa sundalo natin.:)

Philippine military is still bullshit!!! i was so sad then when i didnt pass the pma exams in V. LUNA. buti nlng talaga d ako nakapasa!!!

sobrang kawawa mga sundalo!!! gusto ko pa naman sanang maging airforce pilot nuon.
kaya pala. bagsakero ka pala. :lol:

pa-ulit ulit ka na lang nagto-troll.

He did not pass perhaps because they didn't see in him signs of becoming a corrupt general in the future, which could be part of the PMA curriculum.....:lol:

If not for our Philippine Military, our life would not be like this. Thank to them.

Yup, thanks to them. Especially the foot soldiers who do the hardest part of a soldier's job..

I hope that someday these corrupt generals in the military will be finally replaced by seasoned, honorable and principled soldiers...

I know there are still alot of them....

Yup, thanks to them. Especially the foot soldiers who do the hardest part of a soldier's job..

I hope that someday these corrupt generals in the military will be finally replaced by seasoned, honorable and principled soldiers...

I know there are still alot of them....

Malapit nang mapalitan ang mga heneral na yan.

I rather let mustangs to lead the AFP. They are the ones who had been to hell and back, countless times. Especially those who started at the rank of Private.

the euro generals who are qualified for early retirement are quietly being asked to do so.

i dont think the entrance exam of pma is like b-list university. i've been to respectable schools like (cebu city national science HS and University of San Carlos) and mind you PMA's exam is challenging. i flanked coz they evaluated me as having a messianic complex (just like the magdalo boys).

just to make it clear with you guys. im really not against the military. well im against those Fucking, bullshit, etc. generals who's running it. i have batchmates in the pma you know. and honestly i pity them. and you know what im saying.

try to read my post about here in the philippine defece thread. i have had sensible posts here. i guess ala na akong masabi coz ive said everything ive said. cguro frustrated nlng ako sa state ng military natin. i hope darating time na magiging proud ako sa military natin.

number one problem ng military natin ay ang failure of intelligence :lol:

i dont think the entrance exam of pma is like b-list university. i've been to respectable schools like (cebu city national science HS and University of San Carlos) and mind you PMA's exam is challenging. i flanked coz they evaluated me as having a messianic complex (just like the magdalo boys).

just to make it clear with you guys. im really not against the military. well im against those Fucking, bullshit, etc. generals who's running it. i have batchmates in the pma you know. and honestly i pity them. and you know what im saying.

try to read my post about here in the philippine defece thread. i have had sensible posts here. i guess ala na akong masabi coz ive said everything ive said. cguro frustrated nlng ako sa state ng military natin. i hope darating time na magiging proud ako sa military natin.

i myself had passed the entrance exam. i just tested kung kaya and i did. corruption has been integrated to the military system at kelangan talaga ng matinding reorganization if we want our defense people to be productive to the fullest. say, patayin lahat ng current generals and put young blood. :lol:

He did not pass perhaps because they didn't see in him signs of becoming a corrupt general in the future, which could be part of the PMA curriculum.....:lol:

You should see what this twerp has been sending me through PM. :ohno:

A gauge of IQ is on the quality of insults. This dingo can't go beyond writing the usual P_ina and threatening "may batchmate akong PMA, antay ka lang pag gradweyt niya at isusumbong kita". :lol:

must've failed both the academic and the psychological parts of the exam. magdalo material he ain't.

Just like I posted earlier, he mentioned V. Luna Hospital. There are the intellectual and physical exams and it was the second one he might not have succeeded.

meron pala tayo nito :D

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^The first pic looked like toys!....

Where PNP maritime's responsibility ends, the Coast Guard's begins....

You should see what this twerp has been sending me through PM. :ohno:

A gauge of IQ is on the quality of insults. This dingo can't go beyond writing the usual P_ina and threatening "may batchmate akong PMA, antay ka lang pag gradweyt niya at isusumbong kita". :lol:

must've failed both the academic and the psychological parts of the exam. magdalo material he ain't.

Man, that surely changes the complexion of the arguments!

Flat-footed twerps not allowed! :lol:

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Matagal na taung may ganito sa may PICC area... Don't be amazed there are more because we are composed of 7000+ islands to protect.:)

i dont think the entrance exam of pma is like b-list university. i've been to respectable schools like (cebu city national science HS and University of San Carlos) and mind you PMA's exam is challenging. i flanked coz they evaluated me as having a messianic complex (just like the magdalo boys).

just to make it clear with you guys. im really not against the military. well im against those Fucking, bullshit, etc. generals who's running it. i have batchmates in the pma you know. and honestly i pity them. and you know what im saying.

try to read my post about here in the philippine defece thread. i have had sensible posts here. i guess ala na akong masabi coz ive said everything ive said. cguro frustrated nlng ako sa state ng military natin. i hope darating time na magiging proud ako sa military natin.

Well the test are just test if you are fit to enter the PMA. The real test is, are you fit to overcome the mental, emotional and physical excercises that they will throw to you?

Don't throw comments which you are not so sure of what is the real deal inside mostly in the military, you must experience it first:) See it first don't base it from someone you know.

I've heard this so many times from people who quits. Let's say a quitter or a probability of becoming a quitter...:)

meron pala tayo nito :D

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I wonder what this craft's mission would be. It doesn't mount a deck gun so it's probably not for interdiction.

It's catamaran type which makes it not that stable in rough weather. Scratch out sea rescue.

It does have a marking of "Baywatch" so I guess this is for lifeguard duties.

:)

meron pala tayo nito :D

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I hope they use these crafts extensively:)

i myself had passed the entrance exam. i just tested kung kaya and i did. corruption has been integrated to the military system at kelangan talaga ng matinding reorganization if we want our defense people to be productive to the fullest. say, patayin lahat ng current generals and put young blood. :lol:

but mind you there is a batch in the pma which was considered as the most professional... sadly that's pma batch 1946. also there are some pma alumni known for their professionalism. rodolfo biazon is one, during his stint in the army as brigadier general in davao, despite the strong activity of the NPA there, not a single disappearance of an activist could be attributable to him. In fact, during his stint, the number of disappearances decreased. and that was during martial law. even his critics could never say he was like the "marcos generals" who enriched themselves at the expense of the people.

Biazon is not spotlessly clean.

Just ask his mistah who went over to the other side.

Hindi lang siya garapal. :)

Biazon is not spotlessly clean.

Just ask his mistah who went over to the other side.

Hindi lang siya garapal. :)

Si Viazon na lang ata ang natitira sa class of 61'.
Pino ba gumawa si Viazon, was that during Ramos' presidency? :D

Rodolfo Viazon ba o Rodolfo Quizon?

ehem..

anu - ano ang mga utos na ginagamit ng mga kawal sa wikang tagalog?

eto lang yung lista ko:

about face - harap sa likod
attention - pulutong handa/ balangay handa
Dismisse - tiwalag

ano po ba yung iba? pinapahanap ko kasi ng kakkilala ko at wala naman akong alam na websayt patungkol sa mga sinaad sa itaas. Salamat!

These are photographs I took at the Centcom anniversary (I think).

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Part of the activities during the day included a free ride for students on board the Huey. The V-150 and the Simba were also made available to those who would want to hitch a ride. I think the ride in the armored vehicles was resorted to after the helicopter ride was stopped and there were still a number of students lining up to fly in the Huey. I would have wanted to ride in both the Huey and any of the armored vehicles but the free Huey ride was offered exclusively to students while I was too ashamed to get on board the armored vehicle since I would find find myself in the company of children though I felt like I was little kid. This was the first time that I had the occasion to get close and personal with some of our armed forces' assets. There was also a demonstration by Air Force personnel, I think, in the Huey and Navy (Swag[?]) who brought with them a real rubber boat as props while they showed how an infiltration or insertion is done in enemy territory. The experience really made my day.


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SF during the CENTCOM

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RP's AIR FORCE GETS 15 PLANES FROM S. KOREA

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The Mescalero seen here demonstrating its rough take off/landing abilities

S. Korea gives 15 trainer jets to Philippines for free

SEOUL, Dec. 7

South Korea's defense ministry said Sunday it has given its 15 retired trainer jets, T-41s, to the Philippines for free as part of its military exchange program with allies.

The T-41 Mescalero, a short-range, high-wing trainer aircraft from U.S. maker Cessna, had been used to train Air Force pilots since the U.S. provided it as military aid for Korea in 1972.

The Cessna T41 trainer is the military version of the Cessna 172 and has a rough landing/take off ability.

The jets were replaced by a more advanced aircraft from Russia, the T-103, in 2007. (PNA/Yonhap)

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10th AGILA ID 2nd Year Anniversary Exhibit
Matina Town Square, Davao City
August 16, 2008

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OV-10 Bronchos at Edwin Andrews Airbase in Zamboanga City

Nice photos dude! Parang dumadami ata sila.... :)

^^ilang OV-10 Bronchos ang inactive service ngaun?

^^ilang OV-10 Bronchos ang inactive service ngaun?

Technically lahat ay active... we used to have 24 in all including 8 from thailand. However meron ng mga losses pero not sure exactly how many...

losses? from warfare ba or old age? =D peace...

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Matagal na taung may ganito sa may PICC area... Don't be amazed there are more because we are composed of 7000+ islands to protect.:)



Well the test are just test if you are fit to enter the PMA. The real test is, are you fit to overcome the mental, emotional and physical excercises that they will throw to you?

Don't throw comments which you are not so sure of what is the real deal inside mostly in the military, you must experience it first:) See it first don't base it from someone you know.

I've heard this so many times from people who quits. Let's say a quitter or a probability of becoming a quitter...:)


well the main reason im saying that its b***** coz of its b***** equipments and armaments, b**** and corrupt leadership. i really dont have to experience wats inside the military to make these comments. i can see it for my self. an insurgency that has been waged for decades? an airforce that has no fighter aircrafts? airforce which rely mostly on donations? an infantry that is vietnam era or much worse world war 2 era? ill equipped infantry? a navy that cant protect the sovereignty of our territorial waters? a country that can be bullied militarilty by other smaller countries like singapore and taiwan? very corrupt generals? generals with big mansions and etc? very little or non-existent research and development?

with all those reasons, b***** is a complement to describe our military.

^^ my advice to you is to join www.timawa.net

Skyscrapercity is not the place for you to rant incoherently about our defense establishment.

we have active duty senior officers in that forum. they are open to criticism and to suggestion.

the forumers and mods there are very professional. we have beautiful discussions on things ranging from current events to the wisdom of having full-auto 5.56 rifles discharged in an urban setting.

i warn you though, they do not take kindly to being cursed.

you want a testosterone filled exchange? do it there. PMs there are beyond the care of the mods. we'll enjoy the comedy of cutting you down to size.

:)

^^ my advice to you is to join www.timawa.net

Skyscrapercity is not the place for you to rant incoherently about our defense establishment.

we have active duty senior officers in that forum. they are open to criticism and to suggestion.

the forumers and mods there are very professional. we have beautiful discussions on things ranging from current events to the wisdom of having full-auto 5.56 rifles discharged in an urban setting.

i warn you though, they do not take kindly to being cursed.

you want a testosterone filled exchange? do it there. PMs there are beyond the care of the mods. we'll enjoy the comedy of cutting you down to size.

:)

you said it all man.... :)

losses? from warfare ba or old age? =D peace...


puro crashes lang naman, due to human errors and mechanical problems... im not aware of any losses due to enemy fire though...

^^ my advice to you is to join www.timawa.net

Skyscrapercity is not the place for you to rant incoherently about our defense establishment.

we have active duty senior officers in that forum. they are open to criticism and to suggestion.

the forumers and mods there are very professional. we have beautiful discussions on things ranging from current events to the wisdom of having full-auto 5.56 rifles discharged in an urban setting.

i warn you though, they do not take kindly to being cursed.

you want a testosterone filled exchange? do it there. PMs there are beyond the care of the mods. we'll enjoy the comedy of cutting you down to size.

:)

i dont think my opinions about our military establishment are incoherent. ive given my reasons why its a b***** military. you people just cant accept that we have a b***** military. if you cant accept it. then its up to you. i have basis why i said its b*****. its really b*****. mind you. if timawa is a place where there are active officers. i wouldnt go there. not that im afraid. but its a pity to tell them that they are working and dying for a b****** military. that should suck.

^^ You still have to be proud of the men and women of the Armed Forces of the Philippines risking their lives for peace in the southern part of our country.
Since you have plenty of reasons why our military is so pathetic in every ways, it still leads to the chain of command on the higher up. May pang regalo pa si GMA sa mga senior leaders of the military kaya ganyan kasama ang lagay ng ating military.
Subukan niyang pabayaan ang mga Heneral pag hindi nagpasimuno sila ng pag alsa ng armas laban sa pamahalaan.

I did not say that im not proud of the rank and file. its very noble and very mahirap ung ginagawa nila. though they represent the military, the military they are serving is very bullshit coz of the reason i gave. i bet everybody would agree its a b****** military we have.

^^ Those men and women are serving you and I and the rest of the country to uphold the constitution.

I don't know what you mean by a b**** military, but in a sense that we are not the best there is, then be glad that we still have one that we can still call our own.

puro crashes lang naman, due to human errors and mechanical problems... im not aware of any losses due to enemy fire though...

that is why..our aircraft are often branded as "flying coffins" and "widow-makers"

if you dontknow why i called it a bullshit military then browse up ka me mga reason ako kung bakit tinawag ko na bullshit yun.

Are you trying to say that Armed Forces of the Philippines DOES NOT EXIST? Or there is no such thing as Armed Forces of the Philippines?

Because if you keep on saying that military is a b****, you are like saying that the military is a lie.

As @gen1 advised you, better go to the www.timawa.net or to add one more forum, pdff.sytes.net. You may criticize all you want, besides there's a forum member who is in active service in AFP.

It's only narrow-minded S.O.Bs and parrots will keep on saying that.

well im not saying that the AFP is non existent! its just bullshit coz of the reasons i gave. wats with calling the AFP bullshit anyway basing on the reasons i gave?

as they have told you, there are some members of this forumwho are in active service in the AFP..maybe u know how it affects you, if the institution which incorporates you is being perceived to be b******

please post with tact man..so you can't offend somebody..

as they have told you, there are some members of this forumwho are in active service in the AFP..maybe u know how it affects you, if the institution which incorporates you is being perceived to be bullshit..

please post with tact man..so you can't offend somebody..

Because if you (@marxman) don't, someone will call you an "air strike" to kick you out to the kingdom come. :)

id rather not go there. you guys who are not members of the afp are even hurt when i call our military bullshit. how much more to those people who are serving it.

man i wasnt really directly offending somebody. i just commented and called our military bullshit coz of the reasons i gave. is it that hard to accept the fact?

thats exactly the point..if we forumers who are not members of the AFP are offended by your post how much more the forumers here who are in active service in the Armed Forces of the Philippines...

maybe its not your intent to offend somebody, but that is the outcome of what you did...

and by the way, wat you said is not a fact..its a lie..maybe i can consider it a fact if you should back it up with necessary sources which will strengten your claim..

you can constructively criticize intitutions here, but not to the extent that you are destroying their reputation and integrity..

well i just equated the word bullshit with the reasons that i gave. then that to me is the meaning of bullshit.

You must be on the wrong planet. :rofl:

I will give you what does bullshit (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bullshit) means (link (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bullshit)). If you still don't get it, then that's your problem.

Till then, your statements are bullshit unless proven otherwise.

(Pardon my expletives, can't help it though.)

And oh, I suggest you build your own militia.


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On the other side, military is not bravo sierra as @marxman stated. Some generals of the AFP are a joke, though.

If there's no military in Philippines, Mindanao will be a separate islamic republic and the rest will become the communist with a Maoist doctrine.

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/inquirerheadlines/nation/view/20081215-178024/Trust-in-military-returningsurvey

Trust in military returning—survey


By Jocelyn Uy
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 00:45:00 12/15/2008

Filed Under: Government


MANILA, Philippines—Slowly but surely, the Armed Forces of the Philippines (AFP) is regaining the confidence of businessmen in three key areas of the country, the latest corruption survey by the Social Weather Stations showed.

The SWS survey has the military garnering a plus 6 rating this year compared to a dismal minus 10 last year in the corruption perception of businessmen polled in Metro Manila, Metro Cebu and Metro Davao.

Though still very low, this year’s rating is a huge improvement over the bottom-scraping minus 17 the military garnered in 2006, when an international corruption scandal involving the AFP comptroller was at its height.

“The AFP is very pleased with the results of the SWS survey showing a significant improvement in the perception of businessmen and the public toward the AFP, especially in our efforts to combat corruption within the whole military organization,” said AFP spokesperson Lt. Col. Ernesto Torres Jr.

The corruption in the AFP had prompted a group of junior officers and men to mount the Oakwood mutiny on July 27, 2003.

The SWS survey, conducted from Sept. 9 to Oct.10, interviewed managers of some 400 business enterprises in the three metropolitan areas.

Torres attributed the 16-point jump this year to aggressive anticorruption measures adopted by the AFP, including the teaching of anti-corruption subjects in military school and the sustained implementation of appropriate programs by the AFP’s Office of Ethical Standards and Public Accountability.

He also credited the improvement to the AFP’s grievance and feedback mechanisms and the three general courts martial instituted to prosecute erring officers and personnel.

“The AFP shall continue to improve and strengthen its efforts to professionalize and shall continue to strive to be an effective and efficient security force for the protection of the sovereignty of our country and our people,” Torres said.

to be proven that the afp is bullshit? nah it doesnt need to be proven. its bullshit beyond reasonable doubt. basing on the reasons i gave.

As if you are judge. :rofl:

the guy obviously doesn't know what bullshit means

:lol: :lol: :lol: :rofl:

That's what I call it, uttering utterance. He can say a beautiful expletives eloquently but does not know what does it mean, not knowing that he had done the damage. :lol: I already gave him a source for the definition but oh well, its up to him if he will read it or not. As I replied on the post before, if he is still don't know, it's his problem now.

http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?ArticleId=425632&publicationSubCategoryId=65
Businessman foils heist at doctor's clinic
By Edu Punay Updated December 21, 2008 12:00 AM


A businessman foiled an attempt by three men to rob a doctor’s clinic, killing one suspect and wounding another, in Quezon City Friday night.

Investigators from Quezon City police district said the incident was a clear case of self-defense.

Police Officer 2 Joycelyn Marcelo said businessman Patrick Soriano of Mindanao Avenue, survived the attempted robbery unhurt along with his wife and their seven-year-old daughter.

Marcelo said one of the suspects, identified as Ariel Ricardo Banal, 21, of 4th Avenue, Grace Park in Caloocan City, was shot dead while the alleged accomplice, Melvin Pangilinan, 30, was wounded and taken to a hospital for treatment.

Probers said the suspects, along with a certain Wilson Topang, 31, barged into an ENT (ear-nose-throat) clinic on Roosevelt Avenue in Barangay Damayan at around 3:30 p.m. Friday.

The Sorianos were at the clinic for a routine check-up when the suspects declared a robbery. Marcelo said one of the suspects held Soriano’s wife hostage using a .9mm pistol. However, she resisted and was able to free herself.

Police said Soriano then drew his .9mm Glock pistol from a handbag and fired at the alleged robbers. Banal and Pangilinan were hit but Topang managed to escape.

Police rushed Banal to the Quezon City General Hospital, where he was pronounced dead at around 5:45 p.m. Pangilinan is recuperating at the Jose Reyes Memorial Hospital in Manila.

Investigators added that Banal suffered gunshot wounds in the neck, left knee, right thigh and the right side of his body.

Marcelo said they will continue to hunt down Topang.

if you dontknow why i called it a bullshit military then browse up ka me mga reason ako kung bakit tinawag ko na bullshit yun.

well im not saying that the AFP is non existent! its just bullshit coz of the reasons i gave. wats with calling the AFP bullshit anyway basing on the reasons i gave?

well i just equated the word bullshit with the reasons that i gave. then that to me is the meaning of bullshit.

if you guys are really hurt that i called our military bullshit then give reasons why i shouldnt call it one.

before you guys attack me, can you not give me reasons why i shouldnt call it a bullshit military? basing on the reasons i gave why i called it bullshit?

to be proven that the afp is bullshit? nah it doesnt need to be proven. its bullshit beyond reasonable doubt. basing on the reasons i gave.

Before you can call the term "Bullshit" on different things around you, you need to prove that you know and that you are better than those things that you had labeled as "Bullshit".

So far, your cussing and the reasons you posted here doesn't prove anything that you had done better than the military.

I think you better find out the real meaning of that term. :)

Oops! I'm very sorry guys for not acting promptly on this matter. The forumer was warned and brigged already. I'm really sorry.

Oops! I'm very sorry guys for not acting promptly on this matter. The forumer was warned and brigged already. I'm really sorry.

I don't know if he(marxman) deserves to be brigged or warned. It was still a nice discussion and worth replying into his opinions. For me it was just a bad choice of word that he applied on his statements.

I don't know if he (marxman) deserves to be brigged or warned. It was still a nice discussion and worth replying into his opinions. For me it was just a bad choice of word that he applied on his statements.

And yet he insisted on that b-word. :lol:

And as for the latest news posted by @gen1, I think the businessman is well versed on practical shooting. :)

Gun afficionados fire more rounds in a year than most policemen would in their entire stay at the police force. :)

The deragatory remarks on shooters being adept only at hitting paper targets is thus proven false. When training and muscle memory takes over, the BGs don't have a chance :lol:

I don't know if he(marxman) deserves to be brigged or warned. It was still a nice discussion and worth replying into his opinions. For me it was just a bad choice of word that he applied on his statements.If he did it once or twice, I would've considered. Apparently, he's too comfortable using profanity. It's a big no-no in the rules.

The attacks were done in front of Agrarian Reform Secretary Nasser Pangandaman. I post this here because Secretary Nasser Pangandaman is a member of the govt peace negotiating panel with the MILF. How can he be expected to broker peace when he can't even control his own children :ohno:

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/inquirerheadlines/nation/view/20081228-180271/DAR-chief-son-tagged-in-attack

DAR chief, son tagged in attack


By Beverly T. Natividad
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 00:29:00 12/28/2008

MANILA, Philippines—The son of Agrarian Reform Secretary Nasser Pangandaman and several persons beat up a 14-year-old boy and his father at a golf course in Antipolo on Friday, the victims complained Saturday.

The alleged attackers were identified as Nasser Pangandaman Jr., mayor of Masiu, Lanao del Sur, and his golfing companions and armed bodyguards. The victims, Delfin de la Paz and his family, said the Agrarian Reform secretary witnessed the incident at the Valley Golf Club but did not stop his son and their bodyguards from attacking the victims.

De la Paz filed the complaint immediately after the incident on Friday with the Antipolo police, who said the charges, including child abuse, would be filed on Monday.

Breach of etiquette

De la Paz said the incident started when the Pangandamans broke golf etiquette by playing out of turn and over-taking the De la Paz family at the South Course of the Valley Golf and Country Club.

In an interview, De la Paz, 56, said he and his two children—daughter Bambee, 18, and son Bino, 14—were playing golf and were on Hole No. 3 when two golf carts bearing the Pangandamans and their friends overtook them.

Aside from the Pangandamans, the group also included Paysal Abdulaa, Mohammed Hussein, Abdan Pacasuna, Rene Maglaque and Arnel Astacio.

Dela Paz said he complained to the marshal and when the two groups caught up with each other at the tee house on hole No. 5, an altercation ensued.

De la Paz said that at the height of the altercation, Nasser Jr. suddenly attacked him and his son, punching and kicking them and shouting: “Hindi mo ba ako nakikilala? (Don’t you know me?)”

Bambee de la Paz, who witnessed everything, said the younger Pangandaman continued to attack even when his brother was already on his knees pleading for him to stop.

Bambee, in an e-mail to friends, said they decided to stop playing and retreated to the clubhouse to seek medical attention, but their attackers followed them there. This time joined by their bodyguards, the Pangandaman group again attacked father and son. Bambee said two of the mayor’s bodyguards even pulled out their guns.

She said that while Secretary Pangandaman did not participate in the attacks, he did not lift a finger to stop his son and his companions from beating the victims. None of the golf club’s security guards and managers tried to stop the beating.

‘Golfers are decent’
Dela Paz’s 14 year-old boy suffered various facial, head and back injuries due to the blows he received.

“This is a golf course. I have been a golfer all my life and I have never seen anything like this,” Bambee said. “And I though golfers were decent people. You would think politicians were decent people. I guess not.”

Bambee and Bino de la Paz are both outstanding junior golfers. Bambee is on vacation from the University of Cincinnati where she is a golf scholar. Bino is one of the top golfers in his age group.
Efforts to reach Secretary Pangandaman for comment yesterday proved fruitless. His cell phone was off. The public information officer of the Department of Agrarian Reform promised to call the Inquirer as soon as he got in touch with the secretary but he had not done so at press time Saturday.

^^I have also read the news just this morning. Very very disappointing. :ohno::no:

^^ This is where our taxes go..

By Beverly T. Natividad
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 00:29:00 12/28/2008

MANILA, Philippines—The son of Agrarian Reform Secretary Nasser Pangandaman and several persons beat up a 14-year-old boy and his father at a golf course in Antipolo on Friday, the victims complained Saturday.

The alleged attackers were identified as Nasser Pangandaman Jr., mayor of Masiu, Lanao del Sur,

Dela Paz said he complained to the marshal and when the two groups caught up with each other at the tee house on hole No. 5, an altercation ensued.

De la Paz said that at the height of the altercation, Nasser Jr. suddenly attacked him and his son, punching and kicking them and shouting: “Hindi mo ba ako nakikilala? (Don’t you know me?)”

Bambee de la Paz, who witnessed everything, said the younger Pangandaman continued to attack even when his brother was already on his knees pleading for him to stop.


Yup, future leader of the country in training...:no:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7800033.stm
Philippines communists mark 40th
By Vaudine England
BBC News

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Peace talks have been suspended since 2004
The Communist Party of the Philippines (CPP) has marked its 40th anniversary with a call to arms.

It outlined a strategy of confronting government and military officials, and their relatives and friends.

Self-exiled leader Jose Maria Sison said more party members were needed, and expected, amid financial turmoil.

The communists gained public support during the martial law years of the 1970s but lost dominance when the country returned to democracy in 1986.

The party statement said it would identify those who were "perpetrating treason, plunder and human rights violations".

Such officials would be subject to arrest or battle by guerrilla fighters, it asserted.

The CPP's armed wing, the New Peoples' Army (NPA), has an estimated 5,000 members and has been fighting the government since 1969 in one of Asia's longest-running insurgencies.

'Gigantic task'

Mr Sison's statement, issued from his base in the Netherlands, appeared to admit a need for the party to work harder to achieve its goals.

He expressed the hope that current global financial turmoil would swell the ranks of his party, which he said was based on Marxism-Leninism-Maoism.

"Mr Sison said the rebel group already had "tens of thousands" of members but more were needed for "gigantic tasks ahead."

Tens of thousands of cadres and hundreds of thousands of members are needed for a new great leap in the advance of the Philippine revolution," he said in his message.

"The crisis conditions inflict terrible suffering on the people, but also incite them to wage revolutionary struggle," he said.

"They are therefore favourable for the rapid growth and advance of the CPP and other organised revolutionary forces of the Filipino people," he said.

He also blamed "the bankruptcy of the US-instigated policies of neoliberal globalisation and war on terror" for the "unprecedentedly rapid worsening of the crisis of the world capitalist system and the Philippine ruling system".

'Abuses'

Mr Sison is facing charges before Dutch courts for conspiring to assassinate his former comrades, Romulo Kintanar and Arturo Tabara.

Groups of former members of the CPP are pursuing compensation for what they say have been brutal purges within the movement.

The communists and the government regularly announce a Christmas ceasefire, although government troops were on alert on Friday's CPP anniversary.

Each accuse the other of rights abuses, and of extracting "taxes" from local landowners or business people around the country.

Peace talks between the two sides were suspended in 2004 after the rebels blamed the government for their inclusion on a US list of terrorist organisations - a step which hindered fundraising for Mr Sison and his colleagues in Europe.

In an informal meeting brokered by Norway in Oslo early this month, rebel negotiators rejected an indefinite ceasefire pushed by the government as a condition for resuming formal talks.

No new meetings have been scheduled.

"Mr Sison said the rebel group already had "tens of thousands" of members but more were needed for "gigantic tasks ahead."

Tens of thousands of cadres and hundreds of thousands of members are needed for a new great leap in the advance of the Philippine revolution," he said in his message.

-So there will be a new major war we will experience..:banana: We really need now those Apache's night vision capabilities!

Joma is no longer relevant.

Save for the fronts in bicol and maybe compostela, the NPA is in decline. the RPA has been co-opted.

The CPP never recovered from the schism in the 90s. They're now just good at blowing up Globe cell sites :lol:

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Eto yung pinaka: Wag niyo sanang hindi panoorin ito...Pinakita dito kung gaano kinikilala ang mga "scout rangers natin".
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^^I have also read the news just this morning. Very very disappointing. :ohno::no:

Nanggalaiti ako bigla! :wallbash: It is indeed very very disappointing. Reading such makes me want to mutilate the evil-doer.

^^ Only a few of those abuses were reported or were covered by the media.
What more of those unreported same incidents by other abusive public officials and their relatives?

I remembered Evang. Wilde Estrada ALmeda of The Jesus Miracle Crusade Int. Ministry ..!?

"Terrorism/Communism is Satanism ..!!! We love the communist but we hate their ideology"

Anu ba yan sa 40 years ba nilang pakikibaka sa kapuwa Pilipino anu ba ang higit na napala nila ..!? Naghirap ang family namin sa bicol, nasira ang aming kabuhayan dahil sa kanila ..!? ....sorry guyz isa aq sa mga biktima ng karahasang dulot ng ganyang mga grupo ..!?

Emagine magbarilan sila sa harapan mo bilang isang bata palang nun late 80's t'z a traumatic event ..Ang mga magnanakaw sila ang naglilitis ....may paglilitis ba ..wala ...!! kapag nagnakaw ka ang naisumbong sa kanila ..anu ang gagawin ... they will invite you & kill you ....Paano ang pamilya ng tao ang mga anak ng magnanakaw na un..!? Maganda ba un ..!?

It'z really Happened Isa yan sa karanasang di ko malilimutan sa buong buhay ko nun nasa Bicol pa kami ..!?

:ohno::ohno::ohno::ohno:

sowe guys nailabas ko ang emotion q d2 ...!!

Manila Standard
December 30, 2008

Fund lack clips military air power

By Jaime Pilapil

THE Air Force will have another military cargo plane operational by the end of the year, but the military will still have to fly with clipped wings because the Defense Department cannot complete the acquisition of air assets that are already in the pipeline.

Defense Undersecretary Antonio Romero, who is in charge of the military’s modernization program, said the military had set aside P5 billion each year to buy night attack helicopters and other equipment, but much of that fund would go to fill the need of troops fighting insurgents.

“The task of eliminating the communist insurgency has become a joint responsibility of the police and military,” Romero said.

Instead of concentrating on defense from external threats, the shift of priorities has obliged us to buy items for communications, fire power and mobility.”

Romero said the Defense Department had approved the purchase of eight utility choppers, two light transport planes and 18 Italian-made SF260 jets, but available funds were not enough to buy them.

Still, the Air Force expects another C130 transport plane by the end of the year to add to the lone cargo plane it now has.

“I’m pretty sure the second C130 will be operational before the year ends,” Air Force spokesman Gerardo Zamudio said, adding the plane had been undergoing repairs at Clark Airbase for the past few months.

Zamudio said the government had already spent about P200 million to recondition the second C130.

Another P800 million would be spent on a third plane that could only be commissioned by the middle of next year.

“We can’tafford to buy a brand-new C130 because it costs about $40 million, or around P2 billion, almost half of the P5 billion that is appropriated each year for modernization,” Zamudio said.

A C130 cargo plane is indispensable to an archipelagic country like the Philippines. It can carry two V150 tanks and 90 soldiers in full battle gear, or around 150 soldiers in type-B uniform.

When the Air Force lost a C130 in a crash in Mindanao earlier this year, Luzon-based troops and equipment had to be shipped to Mindanao and that took two days, Zamudio said. With a plane, that would have taken only two hours, he said.

Romero said the military had spent P28 billion for 29 projects, with the last acquisition—2,934 global positioning systems—being delivered last August.

He said former Defense Secretary Avelino Cruz was instrumental in laying down in 2004 a six-phase “upgrade process,” in which the P5 billion-a-year budget was spread over six years to acquire basic needs.

Although billions in cash were available, it was only in 2003 that the military purchased some 804 squad automatic weapons at P117.4 million.

Last year, the Navy spent P171 million to upgrade 12 V-150 tanks, while the Army secured a night fighting system for P55 million.

This year, the Navy upgraded two patrol vessels for P288 million and upgraded two Islander aircraft for P72 million.


The important thing here is that the AFP is doing something to maximize their available resources..

No need for the meantime to buy expensive armaments because their is no real need aside from the lack of course of external threats (unless we retake Sabah and punish Malaysia for meddling in our affairs aka Mindanao problem).

What the AFP need are equipment both for military and civilian purposes like multi-role helicopters, aircrafts, vehicles and ships (civilian and military (combat and rescue)

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AFP anniversary 2008

From Manila Standard
December 29, 2008

OT:

how to join in PAF..? should I enter first PMA or pwede na diretso sa PAF...? hehe.. wala lang baka kasi trip ko lang pumasok kung wala akong makitang trabaho few years from now...

hilig ko talaga mundo ng aviation.. both civilian and military...

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Filipino soldier Captain Rommel Lazaro kisses his baby Eliza Marie Lazaro while his wife Maria Lourdes watches during a send-off ceremony for members of a Philippine peacekeeping force at the military headquarters in Manila January 28, 2009. A battalion of Filipino soldiers will take part in United Nations peacekeeping missions in Haiti and Liberia.
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Members of the Philippine Peace Keeping Force salute during the send-off ceremony for the members of the Philippine Peace Keeping Force Wednesday, Jan. 28, 2009, at the headquarters of the Armed Forces of the Philippines in suburban Quezon City, north of Manila. A battalion of Filipino soldiers with 11 women will be part of the United Nations peace keeping force bound for Haiti and Liberia.
(AP Photo/Pat Roque)

A member of the Philippine peacekeeping force bound for Haiti and Liberia kisses his son during a send-off at Camp Aguinaldo. MANILA, Philippines - A total of 320 Filipino troops were given a sendoff Wednesday ahead of their deployment to Liberia and Haiti to join United Nations peacekeepers.

During the sendoff ceremony in Camp Aguinaldo, Gen. Alexander Yano, Armed Forces chief, told the soldiers to display their highest discipline and decorum while in the two countries, emulating their predecessors who are due to return after completing their six-month tour of duty.

"As bearers of our country's dedication to this cause, much is expected from you... You must always comply with the highest standards of discipline, decorum and professionalism," he said.

Yano also ordered the troops to work as a team.

"You are going to be sent as a Philippine contingent, team AFP, therefore, collective undertaking is also very important in the achievement of your objectives to make a big an impact in ensuring in ensuring that peace is maintained under your auspices in the countries of Haiti and Liberia," he said.

The 165-strong contingent headed by Lt. Col. Arnel de la Vega is tentatively set to leave on Feb. 1, while the 155-man contingent to Haiti, led by Lt. Col. Ramon Yogyog, is scheduled to leave on Feb. 18.

Interviewed after the ceremony, Yano said the country would continue sending peacekeepers to Liberia and Haiti even if the situation in the two areas had started to stabilize. He said the deployment would continue unless requested stopped by UN.

"It will continue because we are following the charter of the United Nations. If there is a requirement, we comply and send [troops for peacekeeping]. There is no order yet [to stop] or there is no stoppage of the request, so we will continue," he said.

"This manifests our country's continuing commitment to comply with peacekeeping activities in countries other than our own. As you know our country has been a member of the United Nations since 1945," the military chief added

Like their predecessors, the 320 soldiers will have a tour of duty of six months.

At present, the Philippines has a total of 670 peacekeepers deployed in UN missions in Afghanistan, Cote d' Ivoire, Darfur, Georgia, Haiti, Kosovo, Liberia, Nepal, Sudan, and Timor-Leste.

The Philippines used to be one of the biggest contributors to the UN peacekeeping contingents, but when the situation in Timor Leste (East Timor) and Kosovo stabilized, it slipped down to number 29 in the ranking of international contributors as of December 2008.

Last year, a total of 626 Filipino troops were sent to various conflict-ridden areas.

The top contributor to the UN peacekeeping missions is Pakistan with 11, 135 members, followed by Bangladesh (9,567), India (8,693), Nigeria (5,908), and Nepal (3,920).

In 2007, Hilario Davide Jr., Philippine permanent representative to the UN, cited that the country was the top contributor of individual police personnel to UN peacekeeping missions.

UN peacekeepers also encounter risks in their assignments. Earlier this month, two Filipino peacekeepers were injured in separate incidents in Sudan and Liberia.

Emmanuel Obeng, a Philippine National Police member in the UN Mission in Sudan, was slightly injured when one of the Sudanese People's Liberation Army members struck him with a rifle.

Another peacekeeper, Yeoman 1st Class Mario Verdidas of the Philippine Navy, suffered injuries on his right hand in an accident at the headquarters of the Philippine Peacekeeping Contingent in Liberia. - Mark Joseph Ubalde, GMANews.TV

Teodoro: Government must prioritize Navy modernization
By James Mananghaya Updated January 29, 2009 12:00 AM


SAN ANTONIO, Zambales – Defense Secretary Gilberto Teodoro Jr. called yesterday for a modern Philippine Navy that could promptly respond to security threats on the nation’s vast coast.

Speaking after swearing in 23 new Navy ensigns at the Naval Education and Training Command here, Teodoro said the government must prioritize the Navy’s modernization by acquiring modern ships equipped with state-of-the-art facilities.

“The Navy modernization could take some time due to the material requirement. I mean re-equipping alone would cost a substantial amount and because of the possible effects of the global financial downturn on the utilization of resources of the Armed Forces, there is a need to rethink the Navy modernization,” he said.

Teodoro said the original plan to replace old ships by 2017 would be a “little late,” especially when the Navy is faced with the challenge of maritime threats like poaching, smuggling and terrorism.

“If we continue at the current pace, we would run short of time,” he said.

“We need them now, but because of the global crisis, it might take some time because the cost might go up. That is why we call on the policymakers to see the importance of having a strong Navy,” he added.

On the other hand, Navy chief Vice Adm. Ferdinand Golez said the Navy’s material capability of 60 to 70 percent is sufficient “as of this time” to carry out maritime security.
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Last year, a total of 626 Filipino troops were sent to various conflict-ridden areas.

The top contributor to the UN peacekeeping missions is Pakistan with 11, 135 members, followed by Bangladesh (9,567), India (8,693), Nigeria (5,908), and Nepal (3,920).

In 2007, Hilario Davide Jr., Philippine permanent representative to the UN, cited that the country was the top contributor of individual police personnel to UN peacekeeping missions.


This is not surprising. PNP officers i've talked to said they earn in excess of 100K a month on their assignments there. they earn more than the miliatry because they have food allowances, whereas the army boys eat at the mess halls.

Our best policemen are the ones sent there, and competition to be selected is fierce.

The Philippines sends a contingent abroad in keeping with our commitment as member of the United Nations. Those sent to these UN peacekeeping missions should consider themselves lucky because their colleagues left in the jungles of the Philippines do not experience a better living situation while on duty in their respective assignments here. I just hope the government do not forget our soldiers here who do not enjoy so much perks compared to those sent to foreign missions. The only thing they have in common is being away from their families.

The Philippines sends a contingent abroad in keeping with our commitment as member of the United Nations. Those sent to these UN peacekeeping missions should consider themselves lucky because their colleagues left in the jungles of the Philippines do not experience a better living situation while on duty in their respective assignments here. I just hope the government do not forget our soldiers here who do not enjoy so much perks compared to those sent to foreign missions. The only thing they have in common is being away from their families.


I can say you can blame the commander in chief for depriving our good soldiers fighting in the south with the best equipments and amenities that a soldier needs. Both groups are being sent in harm's way, they will encounter the unknown in the battlefield and all of us can just hope that they all come home alive and well.

And as for being lucky that you say to the Philippine UN peacekeepers, I'd say they also earn it. All of them are the best there is to be a part of that contingent, ok, maybe a few knew someone in the selection commitee that they get inserted in that elite group. :)

they're really good cops bro. usually SAF or RSAU. they have padrinos, that's inevitable in the pnp culture, but it's not like the padrinos are solely responsible for their being assigned to UN duties. these cops are very qualified.

you know, just thinking out loud here, if we increase cops salaries to start at say 40,000 I betcha we'll have a very effective force :)

I know, they are all good. May kilala kami, yung isa sa pinauwi from Iraq during the Filipino hostage incident.

About cops here in the US, kahit saan naman may aswang, dito lang sa amin, yung mga younger batch, may mga kaso na kaagad. :lol:

MRT terrorrist attack drill by PNP-SAF:

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Is that an automatic grenade launcher on top of the V150 turret ?


Yup.

Hey u should have known that, you're a PDFF and Opus forumer. :)

I was shock kanina sa news about dun sa pag hostage ng mga Abu Sayyaf sa mga Red Cross volunteers doon sa jolo ... paano ba naman... hindi biro yung kalibre ng armas dinadala.. to think meron pa nga silang M249, M60, Galil, M4 Carbines w/ M203, at M16...

tsk tsk.. nasa sa isip ko nga.. baka Airsoft lang mga yun.. :lol: