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z0rg March 25th, 2007, 07:46 PM Prop 1 (Foster)
http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/1553/1153052366dlduplfafkhrry8.jpg
http://img274.imageshack.us/img274/775/pfeukz9u0ukdn480zqb6cbyg1.jpg
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/2338/1153052405d47gabigbe83ba9.jpg
Prop 2
http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/3852/xujiahuitower01kd8.jpg
Prop 3 (SOM)
http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/6412/dsc05863qe6dm1t9wzfqqd6.jpg
http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/9818/1095721156812483tu3.jpg
z0rg March 25th, 2007, 07:48 PM The plot in october 2006, pics by staff
http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/3334/xcinnergarduz2.jpg
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/701/xcgulbilbi7.jpg
They are constructing a subway station too. Anyway we need updates, almost 6 months! :D
ZZ-II March 25th, 2007, 07:48 PM so it is UC?
Phobos March 25th, 2007, 09:58 PM I'm not a fan of any of these proposals but I'll go with Foster,even though I remeber seeing a similar proposal like that for another project.
Peloso March 25th, 2007, 10:05 PM Some people would go with Foster just anywhere... :)
Number 2! Number 2! :banana:
Phobos March 25th, 2007, 10:10 PM Some people would go with Foster just anywhere... :)
Number 2! Number 2! :banana:
Well,I'm not one of these.In fact,I hate most of his projects,but there are always exceptional cases.
Peloso March 25th, 2007, 10:21 PM Well,I'm not one of these.In fact,I hate most of his projects,but there are always exceptional cases.Sure! But I was not talking about you. It just came to my mind, nothing related to your post, just an exceptional coincidence. :lol:
Sbz2ifc March 25th, 2007, 10:22 PM Well... I'd choose Foster's as well, because the other ones just look too simple... or should i say boring?!
Peloso March 25th, 2007, 10:28 PM Strange... Foster looks the simplest to me, 4 boxes (basically) and one cylinder...
Phobos March 25th, 2007, 10:29 PM Sure! But I was not talking about you. It just came to my mind, nothing related to your post, just an exceptional coincidence. :lol:
I didn't say you were talking about me.I just wanted to state that well,and your comment was a good opportunity for that :lol:
Sbz2ifc March 25th, 2007, 10:48 PM Strange... Foster looks the simplest to me, 4 boxes (basically) and one cylinder...
Well... from what I see (and read) in the first post, project #3 (SOM's... not Foster's) is the one with four boxes and a cylinder...
Prop 3 (SOM)
http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/6412/dsc05863qe6dm1t9wzfqqd6.jpg
This one's Foster's (no boxes, no cylinders):
Prop 1 (Foster)
http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/1553/1153052366dlduplfafkhrry8.jpg
Peloso March 25th, 2007, 10:50 PM I didn't say you were talking about me. I just wanted to state that well,and your comment was a good opportunity for that :lol:You were not talking about me, but you were answering me, since your phrase "well I'm not one of these" (rheme) cannot stand alone and it's incomprehensible without a previous claim (theme). And since you answered me, I just had to wake you to the reality that you were not the one I was referring to. :lol:
E -zone ³ March 25th, 2007, 10:51 PM Strange... Foster looks the simplest to me, 4 boxes (basically) and one cylinder...
?? are you talking about proposal 1???
or are you just confused with som's proposal¿¿¿???
I loved foster proposal it's gotta win¡¡¡ :cheer:
Peloso March 25th, 2007, 10:55 PM This one's Foster's (no boxes, no cylinders):Oh, ok, I mistook one for another. But then I prefer cylinders and boxes over those zig-zagging buildings :D
ZZ-II March 25th, 2007, 11:27 PM my favourite is fosters. SOM is ugly!
Inspirit March 28th, 2007, 01:13 AM A little about plagiarism.
If you combine the top and the spire of the first project of Freedom Tower (by Daniel Libeskind)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v251/SJM87/wtc2.jpg
and the rest part of the last project of Freedom Tower (by Libeskind too)..
http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/images/MK-AG229A_FREED_20060501205827.jpg
..in one, what would you have??
http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/9169/12zg5.jpg
You're quite right! Foster's project!!!
http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/6240/1153052405d47gabigbe83blz8.jpg
(pic by z0rg)
What do you think about it?
Nightsky March 28th, 2007, 01:41 AM You are right! May be the architect was inspired by these two proposals. Or may be it is just a coincidence.:lol:
CULWULLA March 28th, 2007, 01:47 AM so is this uc? approved? proposed? please put status in title.
Sagaris March 28th, 2007, 06:08 AM The plagiarism argument is not valid as Foster's Xujiahui proposal is a million times better than any Freedom Tower proposal. Maybe Foster looked at the Freedom tower proposals, and was inspired to make something better out of the promising pieces, though it is probably just coincidence.
Stephan23 March 28th, 2007, 10:12 AM Like the Foster proposal!! And yes, it looks not only a little bit like the Freedom Tower in NY.
giovani kun March 28th, 2007, 10:37 AM impresive what can I say more..build it now
:dance:
z0rg March 28th, 2007, 10:46 AM Prop 1 and 3 are very ugly. Prop 2 might look cute in a good quality render.
vernon March 28th, 2007, 11:20 AM A little about plagiarism.
If you combine the top and the spire of the first project of Freedom Tower (by Daniel Libeskind)
That was the first thing I thought of when I saw the first proposal. The second is a bit boring, so my favorite is the third proposal by SOM.
staff March 28th, 2007, 01:12 PM I live a 5 minute walk from this plot, and walk by it every day, so I could definitely do some updates of it. Although, there's pretty much nothing there right now. Just a big plot of mud and some cranes.
I think they are building the metro station first, before starting the construction of the towers. I'm not sure though.
z0rg March 28th, 2007, 01:29 PM ^^ Maybe they've put some renders around?
staff March 28th, 2007, 01:44 PM Actually not, unfortunately. There's a poster at the plot site indicating the metro hub-station U/C, that's it (that I know of).
qatari 4 ever March 28th, 2007, 02:24 PM zig zag ??
Mosaic March 29th, 2007, 09:02 PM This project is really can't wait
z0rg November 16th, 2007, 06:39 PM Latest news say this project will have three towers, just 340m, 180m, 130m :(
徐家汇中心项目沉寂12年重新启动
近日,有“上海市面积最大、最后一块黄金地块、地王”之称的“徐家汇中心”终于再次传来项目启动的消息。该项目总占地面积约13.2公顷,位于徐家汇商圈的核心地带,是徐家汇二次开发的重点规划项目。按照计划,项目分为办公、五星级酒店、公寓式酒店、商业、文化娱乐五种功能形态,总投资预计将达150亿~200亿元。
分两期开发 商业项目先行
目前,徐家汇中心已经完成项目前期策划和项目规划设计,即将进入到项目设计方案报批阶段。据悉,随着地铁9号线施工的建设,交大新村九幢楼329户居民已动迁完毕,同时,北村及交大新村剩余地块也已纳入徐汇区的土地储备。“徐家汇中心”动迁问题已基本解决。
整个“徐家汇中心”规划以办公楼为主,三栋办公楼分别高130米、180米和340米,其中,高度340米的A楼将成为浦西第一高楼。在体量达到 49.5万平方米的主开发地段中,办公楼面积将占到62%,共30.5万平方米;其次为商业餐饮和娱乐设施,占21%,共10.5万平方米。规划中还设计有一家四星级酒店和一家五星级酒店,面积占到整个项目的17%,达8.5万平方米。
同港汇广场一样,“徐家汇中心”也将采取商业项目先期开发的模式,一期开发项目包括大型高档商场和一栋130米高的办公大楼。
差异化竞争 将成时尚商圈
商场
按照规划,“徐家汇中心”将成为一站式国际时尚商圈。商业定位与现有的徐家汇商业进行差异化竞争,其中零售商业的规模控制在6万平米左右,餐饮娱乐的规模控制在4万平米左右,将目的性消费作为商业的主要对象,并以体验式消费和时尚性消费作为商业的核心,同时考虑放置2万平米左右的高档商业街,提升徐家汇商圈的整体档次。
此外,项目还计划引入SONY、APPLE中心,迪斯尼体验及营销中心和SMG影视中心,打造地区性文化创意产业区。未来商业首层的租金可以达到30~45元/平米/天,休闲餐饮广场首层租金可达25元/平米/天,商业的整体平均租金有望达到10元/平米/天。
办公楼
办公楼将占到总开发量的50%以上,通过高标准的硬件和软件环境,以及大尺度的空间分隔和高使用率,吸引国际、国内大型企业总部的入驻。此外,还将面向全市高端客户,吸引包括金融保险、科技研发等现代服务业。项目主塔楼和各副塔楼都将定位在国际甲级写字楼,满足世界500强企业的入驻标准。通过项目的整体开发,租金有望进一步接近小陆家嘴(23.23,0.22,0.96%)乃至南京西路,可达10~15元/平米/天。
酒店
作为商务氛围营造的亮点,五星级酒店的房间数达400~500间,总面积5万~6万平方米,辅以完善的酒店配套服务。标准五星级酒店的建成,不但将弥补徐家汇区域缺乏高星级酒店的弱点,而且也与办公楼互动,提高区域的商务质量。酒店将主要面向国际商务市场,并以该市场为主要业务来源。根据浦西酒店目前的平均房价水平,并适当考虑竞争因素,平均房价在1400~1500元/天。
公寓式酒店
作为整体的一部分,公寓式酒店是办公、酒店的配套设施,同时也分享商业及便利设施,规模在2万~4万平方米。以A级公寓式酒店作为标准,由国际知名品牌管理集团管理,以中等房型为主,配套软服务,以中长期的高档商务客户为主要目标对象,满足单身外籍人士的居住需求。
地下
“徐家汇中心”的地下商场将与11号线站厅实现无缝敞开式连接,并连通9号线,创造全新的地下商业购物体验。此外,一条非付费区通道将与港汇广场地下商场连接,引入一号线的人流。
停车
项目核心块将为徐家汇中心区域提供不少于2000个车位的地下停车空间;总地块将提供不少于2500个车位的地下停车空间。
(Thanks, skycity007)
CarlosBlueDragon November 16th, 2007, 06:41 PM ermm... Can english ok?? :p
Gaeus November 16th, 2007, 07:13 PM ^^
Translation from
http://dictionary.reference.com/translate/index.html
NOTE: There's a bit of a problem with the wording with this translation.
The Xujiahui Center Project Puiet 12 Years To Start
Recently, had “the Shanghai area to be biggest, the last gold land parcel, the king” the name “the Xujiahui center” to transmit the news finally once more which the project starts. This project total area 13.2 hectares, located at the Xujiahui business circle's core region, are the Xujiahui re-development key planned projects approximately. According to the plan, the project divides into the work, the five-star hotel, the apartment type hotel, commercial, the cultural entertainment five kind of function shapes, the total investment estimated that will amount to 15,000,000,000 ~ 20,000,000,000 Yuan.
Divides Two Phase of Development Commercial Project Advance
At present, the Xujiahui center already completed the project earlier period plan and the project plan design, soon enters to the item design plan requests authorization the stage. It is reported that along with the subway 9 line construction's construction, the Jiaotong University new village nine building 329 households residents mobilized to finish, simultaneously, north the village and the Jiaotong University new village surplus land parcel has also integrated Xuhui District's land reserve. “the Xujiahui center” mobilizes the question already basic solution.
Entire “Xujiahui center” plan by office building primarily, three office building distinction height 130 meter, 180 meters and 340 meters, 340 meter A buildings will become highly the Puxi first tall building. In the amount of space occupied achieves in 495,000 square meter host development land sector, the office building area will account for 62%, altogether 305,000 square meters; Next for the commercial dining and the entertainment facility, accounts for 21%, altogether 105,000 square meters. In the plan also designs has a four star-level hotel and a five-star hotel, the area occupies the entire project 17%, amounts to 85,000 square meters.
Is the same with the Hong Kong Exchange square, “the Xujiahui center” will also adopt the pattern which the commercial project developed ahead of time, a phase of developmental item including large-scale upscale market and a 130 meter high office block.
The Various Competition will become the Fashionable Business Circle
Market
According to the plan, “the Xujiahui center” will become the "one-stop" work style international fashionable business circle. The commercial localization and the existing Xujiahui trade carry on the variation competition, retail business's scale control about 60,000 square meters, the dining entertainment's scale control about 40,000 square meters, takes the sense of purpose expense commercial the main object, and experiences the type expense and the fashionable expense takes commercial the core, simultaneously considered that lays aside 20,000 square meter about the upscale business streets, the promotion Xujiahui business circle overall scale.
In addition, the project also plans introduces SONY, the APPLE center, Disney experiences and the marketing center and the SMG film and television center, the making topicality culture creativity industry area. Future the commercial first rent may achieve for 30~45 Yuan/square meter/days, the leisure dining square first rent may reach for 25 Yuan/square meter/days, the commercial whole average rent achieves hopefully for 10 Yuan/square meter/days.
Office Building
The office building will occupy always develops the quantity above 50%, through high standard hardware and software environment, as well as great criterion spatial separation and high utilization ratio, attraction international, domestic major industry headquarters moving into. In addition, will also face the whole city high-end customer, attracts including modern service industries and so on financial insurance, technical research and development. The project main turret and each turret will locate in the international A-grade office, satisfies the world 500 strong enterprises to move into the standard. Through the project whole development, rent hopeful further close young Lu Jiazui (23.23,0.22,0.96%) and even Najingxilu, may reach for 10~15 Yuan/square meter/days.
Hotel
As the commercial atmosphere building luminescent spot, room number the five-star hotel's reaches 400~500 between, the total area 50,000 ~ 60,000 square meters, auxiliary by perfect hotel adequate and systematic service. Standard five-star hotel completion, not only will make up the Xujiahui region to lack the high star-level hotel weakness, moreover also with the office building interaction, enhances the region the commercial quality. The hotel will mainly face the international commerce market, and take this market as primary service origin. According to Puxi hotel present average house price level, and due consideration competition factor, average house price in 1400~1500 Yuan/days.
Apartment Type Hotel
As a whole part, the apartment type hotel is the work, the hotel matching facilities, simultaneously also shares the trade and facilitates the facility, the scale in 20,000 ~ 40,000 square meters. Takes the standard by a level apartment type hotel, manages by the world famous brand management group, take the medium room primarily, the necessary soft service, by the medium and long-term upscale commercial customer as the essential target object, meets the unmarried public figure of foreign nationality's housing need.
Underground
“Xujiahui center” the underground market will realize the seamless open type connection with 11 line station hall, and connects 9 lines, creates the brand-new underground commercial shopping experience. In addition, a non-payment area channel with the Hong Kong Exchange square underground market connection, will introduce a line the stream of people.
Parking
The project core block will provide for the Xujiahui center region many in 2000 berth's derground parking spaces; The total land parcel will provide many in 2500 berth's derground parking spaces.
ZZ-II November 16th, 2007, 07:18 PM good news but unfortunately only 340m :(
kix111 November 16th, 2007, 10:42 PM ^yeah, was hoping it to be 400+ :(
ZZ-II November 16th, 2007, 11:12 PM at least it is still a supertall :)
Eric Offereins November 17th, 2007, 12:03 AM Prop 1 and 3 are very ugly. Prop 2 might look cute in a good quality render.
I fully agree. :)
oliver999 November 17th, 2007, 10:45 AM the proposal still not selected? some report said that this building is beginning to be built early this month.
oliver999 November 17th, 2007, 10:48 AM I live a 5 minute walk from this plot, and walk by it every day, so I could definitely do some updates of it. Although, there's pretty much nothing there right now. Just a big plot of mud and some cranes.
I think they are building the metro station first, before starting the construction of the towers. I'm not sure though.
土地已完成平整/?
by the way, do you live in xujiahui district?
Kailyas February 4th, 2008, 09:55 AM as always, Shanghai produces great buildings. No exception with this building.
Zollern February 4th, 2008, 01:58 PM ^^
Do you actually look at the threads before posting? The final design hasn't been released yet.
nezzybaby February 4th, 2008, 03:02 PM As the thread has been bumped from months ago i may as well post my 2 cents. I'm a massive fan of Foster... MASSIVE, i have never seen a proposal of his i don't like.... until now. The proposal from Foster is a complete mess, the lines are horrible the shape is awkward, it confuses me and dissapoints me. Normally the proposals from foster and co are incredible, look like they've been worked on for years and have clear and beautiful objectives. This one is just lazy zigzagging for the sake of it, i'm not impressed. And as someone else mentioned it looks like a cross between the two worst designs for the freedom tower.
The second proposal is neither here nor there, but SOMs is very beautiful to me, i think it has great potential and hope it is chosen.
ZZ-II February 4th, 2008, 10:31 PM i like the foster design :)
davee08 February 5th, 2008, 09:16 AM i prefer the foster design its different, SOMs design seems a bit dull and my least favourite of the three proposals
buildmilehightower June 10th, 2008, 12:46 PM http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/2338/1153052405d47gabigbe83ba9.jpg
Is this designed by same designer that designed original design of the freedom tower? Really similar...
buildmilehightower June 10th, 2008, 12:55 PM According to Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xujiahui_Tower
Its 460 metres. And this tower is like right next to the jin mao. So if jin mao, SWFC, Shanghai centre and this one are built forming 4 brothers it will look really cool. I think they have new design though: http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=xujiahuitower-shanghai-china
(I will look like ground zero at much taller scale)
staff June 10th, 2008, 01:15 PM Xujiahui Tower next to Jin Mao? Xujiahui district is more than 10 km from Lujiazui. :lol:
Don't trust Wiki. Why was this thread waken up anyway?
kix111 June 10th, 2008, 01:45 PM because somehow we started discussing about the 4th tower in lujiazui and xujiahui center in the shanghai center thread XD
eyrie June 10th, 2008, 02:21 PM The Foster design,the SOM cylinder is nice but not the 4 boxes and no2 is pleasant but innocuous
z0rg June 10th, 2008, 02:34 PM Xujiahui Tower next to Jin Mao? Xujiahui district is more than 10 km from Lujiazui. :lol:
Don't trust Wiki. Why was this thread waken up anyway?
Poor wikipedians, they checked Emporis again.
ZZ-II June 10th, 2008, 07:42 PM 2 important sites you should never trust: Wikipedia and Emporis! :lol:
Sentient Seas June 10th, 2008, 07:48 PM Reminds me of the Freedom Tower. Looks like an interesting project nonetheless.
buildmilehightower June 10th, 2008, 11:43 PM 2 important sites you should never trust: Wikipedia and Emporis! :lol:
You did say to me not to trust emporis around this time as well on Guangzhou thread, but I always thought emporis was reliable. May be you say that based on incredibly slow update not the info themselves.
buildmilehightower June 10th, 2008, 11:43 PM 2 important sites you should never trust: Wikipedia and Emporis! :lol:
You did say to me not to trust emporis around this time as well on Guangzhou thread, but I always thought emporis was reliable. May be you say that based on incredibly slow update not the info themselves.
buildmilehightower June 10th, 2008, 11:45 PM I'm very sorry about double post above, I though my computer froze so I clicked it couple of times and happened, (my bad) :bash::bash::bash:
staff June 10th, 2008, 11:57 PM ^^
Just don't trust Emporis. It's not a good source, especially when it comes to projects outside North America and Western Europe.
buildmilehightower June 11th, 2008, 12:00 AM even the emporis skyscraper award? because their judgements on skyscrapers aren't bad.
staff June 11th, 2008, 12:23 AM I'm not sure what you mean. You could hardly question Emporis' choice of Skyscraper Award as it is their subjective opinion.
As a source of skyscraper information however, it is not trustable.
z0rg June 11th, 2008, 01:11 AM You did say to me not to trust emporis around this time as well on Guangzhou thread, but I always thought emporis was reliable. May be you say that based on incredibly slow update not the info themselves.
Some projects well above 200m which have been topped out aren't even added. There are also some supertalls which were cancelled like 8 years ago but remain 'approved'. Others above 200m finished 4 years ago are still 'under construction'. They have also several entries for the same project (including 250m+), making you think that they have nothing to do with each other. Etc, etc. Not trustable at all, really.
CMack June 11th, 2008, 04:29 AM Why was this thread waken up anyway?
Because "buildmilehightower" feels it necessary to bump a dead thread after 4 months, just to ask another question that could be easily answered if he would just READ the first page of the thread before posting!!!
Plus, is it really necessary for "buildmilehightower" to make 6-10 posts PER PAGE in ONE DAY on almost EVERY THREAD? :bash: come on man you do this day in and day out! It's hard for the rest of us to follow whats going on as we try to read! :ohno:
Cristobal_illo June 11th, 2008, 05:38 AM This is the site of the Xujiahui Tower.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3121/2568744093_c613562cd1_o.jpg
Xujiahui Tower <------- 8,2km.-------> Jin Mao Tower
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3146/2569570162_15ed9dbb0a_o.jpg
Bye! :)
Densetsu June 11th, 2008, 07:44 AM Wow, it is far way from Pudong. BTW, the construction site is pretty big.
buildmilehightower June 11th, 2008, 11:49 AM Because "buildmilehightower" feels it necessary to bump a dead thread after 4 months, just to ask another question that could be easily answered if he would just READ the first page of the thread before posting!!!
Plus, is it really necessary for "buildmilehightower" to make 6-10 posts PER PAGE in ONE DAY on almost EVERY THREAD? :bash: come on man you do this day in and day out! It's hard for the rest of us to follow whats going on as we try to read! :ohno:
School holiday :cheers: And I don't care if its been dead for months or decades or centuries, this tower ain't dead and you don't have to look at these threads anyway. Just get me a job then you'll definately see less of me (much less)
CMack June 11th, 2008, 06:50 PM School holiday :cheers: And I don't care if its been dead for months or decades or centuries, this tower ain't dead and you don't have to look at these threads anyway. Just get me a job then you'll definately see less of me (much less)
Ok. It's distracting at times, that's all. Enjoy the holiday.
xiahoudun June 15th, 2008, 09:19 AM Wow, according to the picture a few posts earlier, the site of the Xujiahui tower will be right behind the Grand Gateway complex. (Twin tower complex with huge Mall and dome. That will make that area even more impressive. I was shopping there in April. You can take nice pics of the two sites from the Starbucks on the 2nd floor opposite the road.
staff June 15th, 2008, 01:57 PM ^^
There has been works at the site behind the Grand Gateway complex for 1½ years or so, they're constructing a metro station there, among other things.
z0rg August 6th, 2008, 04:49 PM New height, 340m...
徐家汇中心的最新消息,还是340米啊!!
家汇中心年内开建 340米刷新“浦西第一高楼”http://office.sh.soufun.com 房地产门户-搜房网 2008-8-6 15:42:00 时代报 摘要:
搁置了13年之久的徐家汇中心项目有望今年开建。该项目位于徐家汇西侧,占地面积约13.2公顷,规划建设两幢高低相错的大厦,其中一幢340米,刷新浦西第一高楼的纪录,与环球金融中心“遥相呼应”。据透露,该项目初期建设成本高达200亿元人民币,成为徐汇区二次开发的重点规划项目。
记者昨天在该项目规划蓝图上看到,两座高楼外形呈透明状,一高一低各领风骚,其中“高个子”大厦好似勇士利剑直指蓝天,而另一幢大厦犹如细腰美女柔软婀娜。“该建筑群的构思凝聚了多方专家的智慧,整体建筑风格充满现代感又凸现了上海特有的城市景观。”上海城开集团总经理倪建达表示,考虑到周边居民楼的光照需求,两幢建筑的高度特意“错开”,让阳光通过两座高楼之间的间隙照射到周边小区。据悉,徐家汇中心项目最初设计方案为3幢摩天高楼,后经多次修改,最终敲定为2幢。
按照规划,该项目分为办公、五星级酒店、公寓式酒店、商业、文化娱乐五种功能形态。与港汇广场一样,“徐家汇中心”将采取商业项目先期开发的模式,一期开发项目包括大型高档商场和高级办公大楼。徐汇区政府有关人士介绍,根据规划,该项目的地下商场将与11号线站厅实现无缝敞开式连接,并连通9号线,创造全新的地下商业购物体验。
为缓解徐家汇区域停车难的局面,该项目将在核心地块筹建不少于2000个车位的地下停车空间,总地块将提供不少于2500个车位的地下停车空间。据透露,徐汇区政府已将该项目列入今年下半年重点推荐项目,目前相关的动迁工作正在进行,如果一切顺利,年内将进行基础施工,2010年世博会后将全部建成。
http://office.sh.soufun.com/2008-08-06/1983847.htm
Northern Lotus August 6th, 2008, 08:44 PM Seems Foster's design got picked based on the above article/news release. It will be 2 towers from the original 3 (Foster's design had 3) plus the way they described the taller tower is like a warrior with a sword while the shorter tower is like a woman with small waist; very much like Foster's design. Good, I like his the best.
SJM August 6th, 2008, 09:34 PM Foster's kind of looks like the ACC proposed for philly.
z0rg August 6th, 2008, 09:42 PM Seems Foster's design got picked based on the above article/news release. It will be 2 towers from the original 3 (Foster's design had 3) plus the way they described the taller tower is like a warrior with a sword while the shorter tower is like a woman with small waist; very much like Foster's design. Good, I like his the best.
Hope you are wrong. Foster design would be nice only after removing that awful swordish spire.
staff August 6th, 2008, 11:56 PM Foster's kind of looks like the ACC proposed for philly.
You mean, the ACC proposed for Philly looks kind of like Foster's design for Xujiahui Zhongxin...
ruochen August 7th, 2008, 07:57 AM Wow!
it will become the tallest building of the west of HuangPu river at Shanghai if its height is really 340M
Secondly,the baiyulan at the north of the bund,its height is 303m
Jim856796 August 10th, 2008, 03:41 PM Proposal 2 is a box and Proposal 3 has a circular groundprint.
z0rg October 31st, 2008, 09:06 PM Upwards revision to 380m confirmed. Still no images of the final version.
http://www.xuhui.gov.cn/website2007/V7/tabloid/2008-10-31/2008-n-sort-1031-71451.htm
kix111 October 31st, 2008, 10:43 PM lol z0rg too fast.... XD
i really want to see a render and 380 is a good height
SilentStrike November 1st, 2008, 02:11 AM i want foster proposal in 380m
oliver999 November 3rd, 2008, 05:11 PM thanks kix i find this thread again.
z0rg January 12th, 2009, 12:09 AM This is supposed to be the new design. Rather disappointing...
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg64/z0rgggg/others/20081227_62eac20c6f6c3aff2ee4IYXpKI.jpg
ZZ-II January 12th, 2009, 12:25 AM at least it looks quite tall
luci203 January 12th, 2009, 01:00 AM The render have a really bad quality. :(
Let's wait for a better one before judge. :)
staff January 12th, 2009, 01:12 AM If that render is proportionate the tower has to be really tall. The Grand Gateway twins (to the left) are 262m tall - that means that the new Xujiahui Center tower should be a bit over 500m including that spire thing.
I won't judge the design until I've seen a better render.
oliver999 January 13th, 2009, 09:34 AM 浦西第一地标!!!
ina555 January 13th, 2009, 09:48 AM ^^原来你也是中国人啊..
ZZ-II January 13th, 2009, 09:12 PM stay at english please ^^
skyperu34 May 20th, 2009, 09:15 PM Foster´s design is the best by far ! Very nice !
staff July 4th, 2009, 10:46 PM This should be confirmed at 380m (Puxi's tallest) with the design z0rg posted on the last page. Construction will commence at the end of this year. Plot should be cleared by now.
“徐家汇中心”计划明年底开工(图)
日期:2008-12-25 作者:朱楠 来源:东方早报
http://www.news365.com.cn/wxpd/sh/xh/200812/W020081225340762504036.jpg
建成后的徐家汇中心将是“浦西第一高楼”。
被称为“上海市中心面积最大、最后一块黄金地块、浦西第一高楼”的“徐家汇中心”项目首个地块拆迁工作近日正式开始,这个项目终于在沉寂13年后有了实质性启动。根据计划,明年年初所有地块的动迁工程将全面启动,并将在明年年内推向土地交易市场出让。
明年完成土地出让
“徐家汇中心”的项目公司—上海寰宇城市投资发展有限公司成立于2004年12月,由上海城开(集团)有限公司、徐汇土地发展有限公司和徐家汇商城(集团)有限公司共同投资组成。
记者从内部人士处了解到,目前3.5公顷的1号地块上已全部动迁完毕,地块权属已归寰宇公司所有。占地面积3.72公顷的2、3号地块今年年底前将启动拆迁,并预计在明年6月前后挂牌出让;最先启动拆迁的6号地块以及4号、5号地块预计都将于明年下半年在土地交易市场挂牌出让。
如果进展顺利,明年年中所有地块即可完成拆迁,争取年底前进入建造施工阶段。
业态配比再做修改
根据最新的项目规划,徐家汇中心项目建筑布局以地块综合体的形式为主, 1号、2号、3号地块是项目的核心,将会建造三栋超高层建筑,高度分别是380米、180米和130米。
各种业态的配比已经做了修改,其中商务办公为33万平方米;公寓式酒店约3万平方米;酒店为 8.3万平方米;商业餐饮为12.4万平方米;文化设施为2.4万平方米。建筑底部以商业和SOHO酒店式公寓为主,中部以办公为主,建筑上部主要以五星级酒店为主;地下主要以商业和停车为主,设置停车位2900个,并结合轨交9号线和11号线,打造交通枢纽中心。
z0rg July 4th, 2009, 11:14 PM ^^ old news though.
staff July 5th, 2009, 07:50 AM Yup, just confirming it.
A lot of shit going on with this tower.. feels nice to finally know when and what it's going to be. :D
oliver999 July 5th, 2009, 02:01 PM love this render, superb quality.
z0rg August 29th, 2009, 01:09 PM Render posted by moyan808. No info. It has around 80 floors, plus the roof structure. It could reach 400m imo. The spire must reach 400m for sure.
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg64/z0rgggg/others2/109572_1251521544.jpg
Rise To The Top September 25th, 2009, 08:04 AM Any updates on this one? And where the hell is the plot?
Cristobal_illo September 26th, 2009, 02:02 AM ^^
This is the site of the Xujiahui Tower.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3121/2568744093_c613562cd1_o.jpg
Xujiahui Tower <------- 8,2km.-------> Jin Mao Tower
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3146/2569570162_15ed9dbb0a_o.jpg
Bye! :)
jacks October 9th, 2010, 06:22 AM Almost a year now. No Shanghai forummers hang out in Xujiahui?
boschb October 19th, 2010, 01:58 AM I can't believe i've never heard of this project? anyone got photos or any thing to say?
big-dog October 28th, 2010, 11:42 AM pics taken today by me
The digging has not started yet...
http://i757.photobucket.com/albums/xx216/davidwei01/201010281137_resize.jpg
http://i757.photobucket.com/albums/xx216/davidwei01/201010281135_resize.jpg
http://i757.photobucket.com/albums/xx216/davidwei01/201010281136_resize.jpg
Nordschleife October 28th, 2010, 12:10 PM They hasn't even clear the site...
jacks November 2nd, 2010, 04:03 PM Thanks for the update. There's been a Xujiahui supertall in the planning museum for at least 6 years now. Hope they get a move on soon!
hdsghvoizp November 22nd, 2010, 11:16 AM this project seems to be canceled
dc88 February 11th, 2011, 02:06 PM so..is this diff. from Xujiahui Tower?
RobertWalpole February 11th, 2011, 02:17 PM AWESOME!!!
Jonipoon March 21st, 2011, 03:37 PM Thanks for the update. There's been a Xujiahui supertall in the planning museum for at least 6 years now. Hope they get a move on soon!
This is the prop. Picture taken quite recently this year by me (sorry for crappy quality). The tower in this prop doesnt look anything like the designs posted previously though...
http://oi54.tinypic.com/wjvwi8.jpg
I wouldn't say the project is cancelled until further information is revealed. I'd say its about time for that now.
djm160190 March 21st, 2011, 04:08 PM This is the prop. Picture taken quite recently this year by me (sorry for crappy quality). The tower in this prop doesnt look anything like the designs posted previously though...
http://oi54.tinypic.com/wjvwi8.jpg
I wouldn't say the project is cancelled until further information is revealed. I'd say its about time for that now.
疯了老外!嘻嘻
Is there any way you can get to Xujiahui and take a picture of the plot? I used to live in Xujiahui (before I discovered this forum!) and I used to walk past it quite often - they always seemed to be doing something at the site...
A possible reason for slow progress is the fact that they are extending a metro line underneath Xujiahui creating a 3 line hub (Line 1, Line 9 and 11?). Also during the Expo lots of construction was stopped.
Jonipoon March 21st, 2011, 04:25 PM 疯了老外!嘻嘻
Is there any way you can get to Xujiahui and take a picture of the plot? I used to live in Xujiahui (before I discovered this forum!) and I used to walk past it quite often - they always seemed to be doing something at the site...
A possible reason for slow progress is the fact that they are extending a metro line underneath Xujiahui creating a 3 line hub (Line 1, Line 9 and 11?).
Also during the Expo lots of construction was stopped.
The site beyond the subway construction still hasn't been cleared - which means it looks almost the same as in big-dog's pics from oct-10.
oliver999 April 3rd, 2011, 05:07 PM NO NEWS COME?>
travelworld123 August 15th, 2011, 11:41 AM so what's happening with this tower? I sort of like the design!
lianli August 15th, 2011, 01:02 PM When I walked past the plot yesterday, I could see those cranes moving.
What are those cranes? They look like those you can see at ports (for moving containers).
Divineator August 15th, 2011, 04:06 PM ^^I suspect that those cranes are for the new metro interchange. Line 11 will come to Xujiahui in 2 years.
This project is dead for me.
travelworld123 August 15th, 2011, 05:13 PM This project is dead for me.
nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!! :(
On another note, where was this going to be built anyway? Lujiazui?
lianli August 15th, 2011, 05:48 PM nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!! :(
On another note, where was this going to be built anyway? Lujiazui?
What do you mean? It was going to be built in Xujiahui.
travelworld123 August 15th, 2011, 06:06 PM ^^ oh, i thought that was just the name of the tower. :lol:
I first read about the tower on emporis.com http://www.emporis.com/building/xujiahuitower-shanghai-china and one of the pictures on it makes it look like it's in Lujiazui lol.
lianli August 15th, 2011, 06:36 PM ^^
The big picture on emporis shows this tower right on the Shanghai Tower plot. :lol:
travelworld123 August 15th, 2011, 07:09 PM ^^
The big picture on emporis shows this tower right on the Shanghai Tower plot. :lol:
oh yeah, lol just noticed that
Dirty new yorker August 16th, 2011, 12:18 AM More proof that this is dead :lol:
z0rg November 6th, 2011, 01:01 AM This one may be coming finally.
http://www.shgtj.gov.cn/xxbs/xh/201111/t20111103_458641.htm
http://www.shanghai.gov.cn/shanghai/node2314/node2315/node15343/u21ai553550.html
Around 370m according to the latest news.
z0rg November 6th, 2011, 01:04 AM Possible design. They failed to provide a source.
http://pic.gaoloumi.com/attachments/day_111103/11110313226b13da15034bf6fa.jpg
lianli November 6th, 2011, 01:31 AM Wow, I didn't expect this ever getting built, at least not as a supertall.
Honestly, I would prefer a supertall more eastward (Jing'An or around People's Square). On a smoggy/foggy day you won't be able to see this tower from Lujiazui (It's just the other side of the city).
maxin November 6th, 2011, 02:37 AM Still prefer Foster's design
djm160190 November 6th, 2011, 04:25 PM So hopefully 3 supertalls u/c construction in Shanghai soon?! I agree with lianli though, Jingan CBD needs a couple 300-400m towers!
ZZ-II November 6th, 2011, 06:48 PM Shanghai needs alot more supertalls IMO
Myster E November 6th, 2011, 10:09 PM hmm, not my cuppa, looks a little bland.
travelworld123 January 20th, 2012, 09:11 AM any updates on this tower?
Joel que January 20th, 2012, 09:18 AM a waste of space.
big-dog February 8th, 2012, 07:31 AM any updates on this tower?
Nope. I passed it last week. There's only subway constructions on that plot (subway line 11). The new subway station will open this year though, I'm not sure if the building is waiting for that or not (on the same plot).
ganghui February 8th, 2012, 12:23 PM Possible design. They failed to provide a source.
http://pic.gaoloumi.com/attachments/day_111103/11110313226b13da15034bf6fa.jpg
Seems unlikely at the moment. The area is full of apartment houses and includes a short but nice restaurant street. One of my favourite hot pot restaurants is there, would hate to see it gone.
But hey, at least it looks awesome. Xujiahui rules.
drunkenmunkey888 February 9th, 2012, 04:25 AM ^^
I really hope they don't go with that design. I mean really? A park surrounding the building? Such poor judgement, it's really inexcusable in the 2010's. If this was a project from the 1990's, you can argue that developers don't know any better and think that more green space = better. Buildings in this location should only come out to the street to enhance walkability and access.
Severiano February 9th, 2012, 04:50 AM ^^ Couldn't agree more. I can't stand the blind alligence to "green space". You want green? Build stuff close together so there is less need for cars and other forms of transport. What China needs to do is stop Beijingifying every damn place, and look at Beijing's plan and do the opposite of that. Beijing is already a lost cause, but we can preserve other cities in China by promoting more pedestrian and cycling friendly development, rather than insular spaced out facades surrounded by 16-lane highways.
ganghui February 9th, 2012, 12:09 PM ^^
I really hope they don't go with that design. I mean really? A park surrounding the building? Such poor judgement, it's really inexcusable in the 2010's. If this was a project from the 1990's, you can argue that developers don't know any better and think that more green space = better. Buildings in this location should only come out to the street to enhance walkability and access.
I agree, but according to this render those three buildings will be facing directly to Hongqiao Road, which isnt a poor judgement in my opinion. It would be worse if they were located inside the green space, but they're not. The park is a great idea, it will allow people visiting the Grand Gateway Mall to take a break from their shopping and stroll around in a quiet atmosphere without taking the boring underpass all the way to Xuhui Park.
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