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goschio
March 26th, 2007, 06:00 PM
A large new complex of office, retail, gastronomy and apartments will be build on the former site of the Degussa company.
It is situated right at the riverfront of the Main in Frankfurt, thus both the name "MainTor" (Gate to Main) and "Riverside Financial District" as a subline.


Facts for the highrises:

Winx-Tower: 110m, 29 floors
Portal: 27m, 7 floors
Construction: 2012/2013

Maintor Panorama: 64m, 17 floors
Construction: 2012

Maintor Primus: 46m, 12 floors
Construction: 2011

Maintor Porta: 70m, 19 floors
Construction: 2012


Renderings:

http://i43.tinypic.com/bvq88.jpg
Source: www.maintor-frankfurt.com / DIC (Deutsche Immobilien Chancen Frankfurt)

http://i53.tinypic.com/2mm8j9z.jpg
http://h5.abload.de/img/maintorgesamt68xa.jpg

http://i40.tinypic.com/1118mjr.jpg
http://www.dic-ag.de/galerie/galerie_pm.php?oID=647&z=2&dir=forward

http://i55.tinypic.com/2mwyqrq.jpg
DIC

http://i53.tinypic.com/2v2utz6.jpg
http://www.maintor-frankfurt.de/bilder/objekte/03.jpg

MainTor Panorama
http://i52.tinypic.com/8vui48.jpg
http://www.maintor-frankfurt.de/bilder/objekte/04.jpg

http://i55.tinypic.com/s13lo8.jpg
http://www.maintor-frankfurt.de/bilder/objekte/05.jpg

http://i55.tinypic.com/x7nuf.jpg
http://www.maintor-frankfurt.de

http://i54.tinypic.com/o04f85.jpg
http://www.maintor-frankfurt.de/bilder/panorama/03.jpg

MainTor Primus
http://i51.tinypic.com/kbsis8.jpg
http://www.maintor-frankfurt.de

http://i53.tinypic.com/1eul49.jpg
http://www.maintor-frankfurt.de

Winx
http://i54.tinypic.com/314w0lt.jpg
http://www.maintor-frankfurt.de/bilder/winx/04.jpg

http://i54.tinypic.com/291ey55.jpg
www.maintor-frankfurt.de

MainTor Porta
http://i54.tinypic.com/e7e9w5.jpg
http://www.maintor-frankfurt.de/bilder/porta/04.jpg


The current buildings occupying the site, the Degussa complex (demolition starting in July 2011):
http://i42.tinypic.com/24uypv5.jpg
http://www.dic-ag.de/galerie/galerie_pm.php?oID=647&z=1&dir=back


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Initial post from 2007:

The WinX tower will be part of the redevelopment of the Degussa area. The tower will be 150m high and be surrounded by reseidential and dining.

Construction should start in 2008. The total cost of the project is 500 mio EUR.


http://www.maintor-frankfurt.de/,

Maintor:

http://www.maintor-frankfurt.de/media/maintor/DIC_Maintor_Schnittpunkt.jpg
http://www.maintor-frankfurt.de/media/maintor/DIC_MT_Modell.jpg
http://www.maintor-frankfurt.de/media/maintor/DIC_MT_Oeffnung.jpg
http://www.maintor-frankfurt.de/media/maintor/DIC_MT_Durchwegung.jpg
http://www.maintor-frankfurt.de/media/maintor/DIC_MT_Hochhaus.jpg
http://www.maintor-frankfurt.de/media/maintor/DIC_MT_Urban.jpg
http://www.maintor-frankfurt.de/media/maintor/DIC_MT_Plaza.jpg
http://www.maintor-frankfurt.de/media/maintor/DIC_MAINTOR_Hochhaus.jpg

The new project will mainly replace the low rise buildings in the foreground:
http://www.maintor-frankfurt.de/media/maintor/DIC_Mainseite_1.jpg
All the red buildings are part of the project:
http://www.maintor-frankfurt.de/media/maintor/DIC_MAINTOR_Tor-zur-Stadt.jpg

ZZ-II
March 26th, 2007, 06:28 PM
great project, can't wait :)

BMXican
March 26th, 2007, 08:36 PM
it actually looks like 170m one the rendering comparing this to other towers. it's definately taller than the silver tower, which is 166m tall. the smaller tower seems to be around 60m. I like the shape. and I love how they open up the area. :cheers:

god, there's so much happening in frankfurt at the moment. new towers almost every day ...

Skyscrapercitizen
March 26th, 2007, 08:50 PM
Nice and clean design. Fits to the financial district, but fits less to the altstadt and riverfront I think.

BMXican
March 26th, 2007, 09:58 PM
I agree, although the white colour of the project would fit in with the new policy of the city of frankfurt -w hich only allows white buildings on the riverfront (it's a new policy, all old buildings get a white paint job, all new buildings must be white.) it will be a big contrast to the neighboring old town, that's for sure.


I wonder if they get the permission to increase the height to 200m ...

newfvgffm
March 26th, 2007, 10:01 PM
Its an amazing and surprising developement with a beautiful design.
Interesting, only 2 days after the HighrisePlan was published the first investor came also public with his developement, already having an anchor tenant.
So if we are lucky we might have many Towers under construction in Frankfurt in 2008.
I just love it!

Operatower, 2 Frankfurthochvier Towers, ECB Tower, Degussa Tower, KFW Tower...who knows, perhaps even more.

Its time that Frankfurt enters a new boom Phase!

here i have a quickly made simulation:

http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/3083/degussaczselbstvo0.jpg

CYstillFI
March 26th, 2007, 10:05 PM
Great news, Frankfurt finally seems to awake. With some delay the boom also reaches this city! :banana: :banana: :banana:

It seems to be a bit more than 175 Meters (it's a bit higher than the mid between Maintower and Eurotower). Absolutly perfect for this location. The best news is, that there is already a main tenant, actually occupying this area, which makes this project quite save.

Edit: Guys, we are back on the air! :D

Sbz2ifc
March 26th, 2007, 10:20 PM
Nice redevelopment, I like the project... but I think it's gonna spoil some views of the Commerzbank. :(

CYstillFI
March 26th, 2007, 10:29 PM
A matter of moving a few meters to the left or the right. At the end there is an addition to any foto from most of the hotspots. :D

HD
March 28th, 2007, 12:42 AM
newfvgffm: let's not forget the kaiserkarree and fraspa - both very likely to start soon. and marieninsel looks very good too - another 200m+ tower.

what I don't like about winx (wierd name) is the height, which is almost the same as the neighbouring eurotower - I'd rather have a taller or smaller tower ...

BMXican
March 28th, 2007, 11:30 AM
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/7820/winxfw4.jpg

40 floors (32 office floors and 8 residential floors)

the smaller tower has 16 floors (offices) and it looks like there is a thirs small tower, where the old degussa-hochhaus is.

TYW
March 28th, 2007, 02:35 PM
the orange top reminds me of Eureka Tower's gold top

well, it's a nice tower but i hope it doesn't turn out too fat like the last pic

Sbz2ifc
March 28th, 2007, 04:51 PM
It's not going to have an orange top :tongue2:
That's a picture that shows the use of different parts of the complex. So orange is probably residential, red - retail and that blue-gray - offices.

henner
March 28th, 2007, 08:29 PM
Nice redevelopment, I like the project... but I think it's gonna spoil some views of the Commerzbank. :(

Yeah but not this one. The building will cover the eurotower on the left side.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/140/327852675_a124933311_b.jpg?

ZZ-II
March 28th, 2007, 09:47 PM
lol, every new tower covers another more or less ^^

HD
March 28th, 2007, 11:59 PM
It's not going to have an orange top :tongue2:
That's a picture that shows the use of different parts of the complex. So orange is probably residential, red - retail and that blue-gray - offices.

that's right :)

null
March 29th, 2007, 09:19 AM
wow,nice addtion

Boven Alles
March 29th, 2007, 12:35 PM
Good news that there are residentials in this tower, Frankfurt needs much more of them!

TYW
March 29th, 2007, 02:57 PM
It's not going to have an orange top :tongue2:
That's a picture that shows the use of different parts of the complex. So orange is probably residential, red - retail and that blue-gray - offices.

oh, i see!! thanks for clarifying ;)

but if it were to have the orange top, it will be kinda cool too

GNU
March 29th, 2007, 03:39 PM
Operatower, 2 Frankfurthochvier Towers, ECB Tower, Degussa Tower, KFW Tower...who knows, perhaps even more.


Yeah its looking good for Frankfurt at the moment

Golden Age
March 30th, 2007, 08:39 PM
newfvgffm: let's not forget the kaiserkarree and fraspa - both very likely to start soon. and marieninsel looks very good too - another 200m+ tower.

I'd also like to see Fraspa and Kaiserkaree, which both may start this year, but I don't see Marieninsel going anywhere as a main tenant of such size will be extremely hard to find unless Deutsche Bahn decides to move downtown instead of building close to the Messe or a big auditing company like PriceWaterHouseCoopers decides to move away from the dull outskirts (also highly unlikely).

Concerning Degussa & WinX, that's a real crown jewel for Frankfurt. Up until know I was kind of cautious on the new economic upswing in Germany but this is definitely a major sign for a turnaround that will help new construction big time. The best news of course is that Degussa will be the main tenant, speeding up the entire process until construction considerably.

HD
April 2nd, 2007, 05:52 PM
rumors say this week we will get surprising info on the 200m fraspa tower ...

FFM2007
April 2nd, 2007, 08:44 PM
1st April-Joke rumors?

HD
April 2nd, 2007, 08:49 PM
aparently not. the rumors are from the 2nd of april ...

FFM2007
April 2nd, 2007, 09:39 PM
good news then :cheers:

ZZ-II
April 2nd, 2007, 09:52 PM
frankfurt is on a good way, i'm excited to see more projects :)

storms991
April 2nd, 2007, 11:36 PM
Same here, looks like a good project to me.

ROYU
April 3rd, 2007, 04:11 AM
Very nice project for Frankfurt. The desing is very good but it can be better. Hope to see more projects soon.

Golden Age
April 3rd, 2007, 01:00 PM
The good news rumor on Fraspa is spreading fast. It seems justified given the current "Wirtschaftsaufschwung" we're seeing in Germany. The many previously risk-averse investors are finally coming back to the marketplace and spending again.

henner
April 3rd, 2007, 01:37 PM
This is a Fraspa Rendering (building in the front)

http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/5789/neuermainzertc8.jpg

goschio
April 3rd, 2007, 01:41 PM
The Fraspa tower would be too awesome.
190m if I am not wrong.

Pølser Hawkins III
April 3rd, 2007, 02:12 PM
197m!

Patrick
April 3rd, 2007, 04:52 PM
I hope we can open a new thread about this tower with concrete news soon :)

back to the WinX:

The green party sucks (considering city development)! :rant:

a locla newspaper wrote today that the head of the green party, Olaf Cunitz, said that so called planning experts should work on possible alternatives considering this project before the city will finally approve it. He also said that a smaller tower or even a decline could be possible. :mad::mad2:

let's hope that it won't be like that!

http://www.rhein-main.net/sixcms/list.php?page=fnp2_news_article&id=3623704

ZZ-II
April 3rd, 2007, 06:33 PM
:ohno:

Golden Age
April 3rd, 2007, 11:11 PM
The green party sucks!

The Green Party should concentrate on what has made it strong: Demand more/better public transport, more bike paths, more greenspace, more family-friendly environments (kindergardens, etc). It should, however, stop playing the party pooper for any kind of fast, positive city development. It has already effectively stopped the UEC and is dragging its feet on the airport enlargement, now it is once more the "ball and chain" for the speedy development of a vital public space in the city.

newfvgffm
April 3rd, 2007, 11:22 PM
^
very well written!

gangigaden
April 4th, 2007, 12:30 PM
I thought that the CDU/CSU-fraction got the "Mehrheit" in Frankfurt - does it matter what the green party thinks?

HD
April 4th, 2007, 01:01 PM
not really. it's just a single voice in a small party.

FFM2007
April 4th, 2007, 01:12 PM
so this project wouldn't even be cancelled or changed if they say no?

HD
April 4th, 2007, 02:03 PM
no.

Skyman
April 4th, 2007, 10:01 PM
Not bad

zerokarma
April 5th, 2007, 05:20 PM
Looks alright

Ralphkke
May 1st, 2007, 07:35 AM
Damn that tower is HOT!

Skyline.Fan
May 24th, 2007, 07:52 PM
Yeah its looking good for Frankfurt at the moment

All i miss is ONE supertall :cry:

GNU
May 24th, 2007, 08:12 PM
I aggree.
is there any chance that the millenium tower might be built one day?

ZZ-II
May 24th, 2007, 09:17 PM
yes, but not in the next 10 years i think

KoolKeatz
May 24th, 2007, 09:24 PM
And Marieninsel? :?

ZZ-II
May 24th, 2007, 09:41 PM
i hope for an construction start next year or at least 2009

kurakura
May 24th, 2007, 09:52 PM
this building and its surroundings look so uber modern

BMXican
May 25th, 2007, 12:09 AM
this project could faces some changes though. some politicians don't like the fact that the main tower is in the center of the development. they would rather see the tallest tower in the upper left corner - which would be the furthest away from the old town (which is east of this development) or closest to the other skyscrapers of the banking district (the tower of the european central bank is across the street). the location of the smaller tower (in the lower left corner) is certain though.

other politicians say it would be better to locate most of the planned space in several smaller towers on the western edge of the project - though I doubt, this is going to happen.


re marieninsel: this project is pretty certain, it has all the backing from the city parliament. the final height is unclear though. numbers between 220 and 250m are being discussed. some politicians want to cut it down to around 150m though.

Sentient Seas
May 25th, 2007, 02:32 AM
Looks good, congratulations, Frankfurt.

Paulie Walnuts
May 25th, 2007, 04:18 PM
Traditional, but clean.

Bori427
May 25th, 2007, 04:37 PM
Nice project,the main tower looks nice

carst0rnHH
May 25th, 2007, 05:07 PM
i hope the construction start next year :)

CYstillFI
May 28th, 2007, 12:21 AM
There is almost nothing what I could add to BMXicans comments. Maybe one point, the potential investors/owners of this ground do not have to build something. They have an explicit tenat and the situation, for a city's point of view, is absolutly not satisfying. So nobody is helped, if they go for the "several smaller towers" solution. It doesn't increase the value of the ground and doesn't change the situation of a totally closed a quarter within the inner city. So what?!

And regarding the Marieinsel project we have a simular situation. Of the three owners there a two real estate (fund) companies which intents to build, even on a speculative base, and a bank, which is known its conservative line since the IBC project. But, no matter, none of them will want to build at this place, if it is just for stupid 150 Meters. That would be clearly suboptimal and not worth of discussing about it. Also the three owners are also owners of the neighboring grounds, so there will be no claims or objections which could stop this projects, like once with the Campanile project.

In the worst case both (of above scenarios) will wait for better time. At a certain point the city has to find back to its for years propagated line, wanting real development in international terms of understanding, and not in this ridiculous way of reconstructions and halfhearted decissions.

What ever, time will bring the new scrapers. But I think sooner than later. It is a matter of common sense.

BMXican
May 28th, 2007, 01:22 PM
I have no doubt this development is going to be built - and I'm sure they stick to their schedule and start in 2008. there is an investor, who signed a long term lease with an anchor tenant. the developer also has got the full backing of the city to redevelop the site. however, I could imagine the location of the tower on the site will be changed somehow. one thing is sure: there may be some objections to the location and height of the main tower, but atleast there are no more objections to any tall building at that site.

CYstillFI: the smaller-towers solution would still increase the value of the site. the site now offers 65,000 sq m of office space. they could still achieve the planned 100,000 sq m with several small towers (for example: the 60m tower opposite the schweizer national tower, then maybe a 90m and a 120m tower along the neue mainzer strasse - this instead of the 150m and 60m tower that are planned now).

the same story with marieninsel - the three developers would still achieve more value if they just build 150m - the current tallest building at that site is only 60m (?) tall ;) or maybe they go for two smaller towers - the site is big enough. however I believe marieninsel will still be taller than 200m - though maybe not 250m as planned.

Okan
May 28th, 2007, 04:27 PM
ich finde alle wolkenkratzer in Frankfurt öde

ZZ-II
May 28th, 2007, 08:28 PM
1. write in english!
2. there's no need to write in all frankfurt threads the same!

MasonicStage™
May 28th, 2007, 08:35 PM
interesting project! great for frankfurt! :)

CYstillFI
May 29th, 2007, 12:31 PM
ZZII, maybe we should give him 50 cent, then he can bore a parking meter with his sorrows.

BMXican, I suppose you're right with the way you look at it. But as this is only one of the numerous projects in discussion within the proposed new masterplan and as there are much more controversal projects involved, I still have the hope that these quite safe projects get more weight in return to other concessions.

Hopefully they soon come to a conclusion about this.

Kaiser
May 29th, 2007, 12:47 PM
Love it! Very nice and decent ;)

erbse
October 21st, 2007, 11:01 PM
So what, any news of the MainTor? Would be glad to hear anything, since we've overlapped the Expo Real (investment/projects fair in Munich) it seems there's nothin happening... Has it even been substituted there?

HD
October 23rd, 2007, 10:47 PM
yes, there have been great models of the project on display. I believe there are also some photos of this somewhere here.

the project could be split into 3 smaller towers though ...

goschio
October 24th, 2007, 06:20 AM
I wouldn't really mind if the split the project into 3 smaller towers. Would create a nice transition zone toward the skyline. I am personally more concerned about the urban environment in that area than getting another 150m tower.

derUlukai
November 8th, 2007, 03:06 PM
(more or less) good news: project is APPROVED now, but the height of the tower has been cut down to about 100meter, but there was added another 60meter tower, so there will be 2of them. construction starts end of next year, completion until 2013.

ZZ-II
November 8th, 2007, 03:20 PM
that are good and bad news in one ^^. but 100m is better than nothing

Skyline.Fan
November 8th, 2007, 03:37 PM
what a load of fucking bullshit, i should become the head of Frankfurt, then something different would have happened ...

goschio
November 8th, 2007, 05:30 PM
I like the new solution better. One 100m tower and two 60m towers will look much better in the skyline than as single 150m. Especially because the site is so close to the river and old town. And construction start is now definitely in 2008.

Patrick
November 8th, 2007, 05:39 PM
yes, this is not that bad, especially for the view from the main bridges (east), that there will be another stepping on the left side of the view then.

edit: The thread title needs to be changed then:

FRANKFURT | MainTor | 100m | 60m | 60m | App

Patrick
November 8th, 2007, 06:16 PM
here is a rendering from http://www.property-magazine.de/news.php?fuseaction_newsbase=details&news_ID=8140&articlesuche=

http://www.property-magazine.de/wcom/library/modules/newsbase/images/8140_8140_article_pre_unbenannt-1.jpg
http://www.property-magazine.de/wcom/library/modules/newsbase/images/8140_8140_article_pre_unbenannt-2.jpg

Frankfurter_Bockwurst
November 8th, 2007, 06:26 PM
but there isnt the 60m ,right?

Patrick
November 8th, 2007, 06:31 PM
wo was wie hä?

Frankfurter_Bockwurst
November 8th, 2007, 06:41 PM
na auf dem ersten bild da!
erstens: ist der 60m schon da druff? wurde auf dem bild schon auf 150 m gekürzt?
der große sieht entweder höher als 100m aus und der kleine kleiner als 60m!

derUlukai
November 8th, 2007, 06:56 PM
na auf dem ersten bild da!
erstens: ist der 60m schon da druff? wurde auf dem bild schon auf 150 m gekürzt?
der große sieht entweder höher als 100m aus und der kleine kleiner als 60m!

i need those drugs u always take before posting here :banana:
if u compare winx to the ecb tower u see that height has been reduced to about 100meters. also the smaller towers have more or less the same height as swiss national building, that is 57meters high..

could be worse, but i would have preferred a 170meter tower at this place..

Frankfurter_Bockwurst
November 8th, 2007, 09:36 PM
sorry it was a typo....but where is the ecb on that picture???
oh and my drugs are......FRANKFURTS AIR

derUlukai
November 8th, 2007, 09:42 PM
in front of japan center :banana:

Frankfurter_Bockwurst
November 8th, 2007, 09:44 PM
hmm oh...you mean the old one -.-
all i wanted to know is if its a new render with the new design.

derUlukai
November 8th, 2007, 10:43 PM
what a load of fucking bullshit, i should become the head of Frankfurt, then something different would have happened ...

maybe you should write some letters to the local newspapers.. :banana:

Frankfurter_Bockwurst
November 8th, 2007, 10:46 PM
what should the newspaper do?
I would be the architect then :D
Rofl!

HT
November 9th, 2007, 12:47 AM
Great that at least something gets build for sure !

sky-rick
November 9th, 2007, 02:01 AM
for me... in someway, winx looks higher than 100m on this render. compared avec westendduo, but compared avec les highrises surrounding it, it's right... i don't know why, but when i think of westendduo, it's not that high like winx on this render... but i could be wrong, so: i like it!! no matter if 100 or 150. so, there is 1 tower added, that's ok, compromis! frankfurt needs some midhigh-gapfillers, so it's great!

Golden Age
November 9th, 2007, 01:17 PM
Great that at least something gets build for sure !

I'm pretty sure, more good news awaits (especially regarding Kaiserkarree).

I like the new design for Degussa, nothing revolutionary but given the perfect location the apartments, restaurants and offices will be sold within days once they are on the market. The development is a huge improvement. Currently, the area around Degussa is one of Frankfurt's ugliest neighborhoods (meaning grey, no street life) and mostly not even open to the public, typical 50's and 60's post-war mediocrity.

I'm especially looking forward to the new "gate" situation when approaching the financial district from Sachsenhausen.

derUlukai
November 9th, 2007, 05:59 PM
shame on frankfurts government...

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/1581/dicmaintorhighqp9.jpg


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Frankfurter_Bockwurst
November 9th, 2007, 06:46 PM
why? xD

zimba
November 9th, 2007, 11:54 PM
Nice addition to the skyline I say

ZZ-II
November 10th, 2007, 12:04 AM
agree. the 150m were a nice height but the new 100m are better than nothing and the design is really good

Skyline.Fan
November 10th, 2007, 01:38 AM
agree. the 150m were a nice height but the new 100m are better than nothing and the design is really good

the tower looks like bullshit with 100 meters ZZ :ohno:

PS: schwing dein arsch ma wieder in msn, ich benötige insider infos :D

Jim856796
December 16th, 2007, 09:20 AM
The old Degussa AG will be reconstructed as part of the development. Plans to demolish the skyscraper were abandoned.

erbse
December 16th, 2007, 01:26 PM
^ What the heck? Please name us your source , buddy!

Jim856796
December 16th, 2007, 02:16 PM
http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=degussaag-frankfurt-germany

I found the fact at this page.

ZZ-II
December 16th, 2007, 02:28 PM
that's probably very old ^^

BMXican
December 17th, 2007, 04:44 PM
guys, for gods sake - he is right! the old degussa tower will be redeveloped - read the articles again. it doesnt mean the project is not going ahead!!

all the other buildings will be replaced. so this project has 4 towers (100m, 60m, 60m and 48m <--- the last one is the old degussa tower)

the fact is brand new btw ...

http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/cx/?id=degussaareal-frankfurt

schum-ho
July 26th, 2009, 11:54 AM
Any news about this tower? Didn't they already want to start this year?

erbse
July 27th, 2009, 04:19 PM
This project is called MainTor now. Someone should fix the thread title :)

HD
July 27th, 2009, 06:31 PM
Any news about this tower? Didn't they already want to start this year?

the project has several phases. first phase starts this year. it`s not the main tower though, it`s a smaller tower right next to it. constrution of the main tower starts in january 2011.

erbse
March 27th, 2010, 01:07 AM
Fresh news of MainTor / WinX project!

DIC, the developer of the maintor development (construction starts 2010) announced today, that KSP architects and the maeckler architectural office are desiging two of their maintor towers.




new renderings:

1. situation today
http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/245/dic1.jpg

2. view of the development (the left tower is designed by maeckler, the central tower by KSP. the third tower was also designed by KSP, there was no competition for that though.)
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/1875/dic2c.jpg

3. view from the west
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/3274/dic3.jpg

4. view from the river
http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/9884/dic4.jpg

source: DIC

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http://www.abload.de/img/ffm4y69a.jpg (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=ffm4y69a.jpg)
(Source) (http://www.competitionline.de/3026249/)

http://www.abload.de/img/ffm5k5ho.jpg (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=ffm5k5ho.jpg)
(Source) (http://www.competitionline.de/3026249/)

Edit: MainTor won't get built in this way! The designs shown above just have been alternatives.

HD
April 1st, 2010, 12:23 PM
interesting. I think the best winx-tower (tower no.1) design (KSP architects) won the competition. I wonder how tall it will be though. I don't understand the policy of giving heights of buildings without counting the plant floors. looking at the first rendering it looks like it's taller than the old commerzbank tower, which itself is 109m.

as much as I'm starting to dislike maeckler (the architect that seems to design every second project in frankfurt nowadays), I quite like this maintor tower (tower no.2) design. IMO it's much better than KSP's design for this tower.

it's a shame there was no design competition for tower no.3 (porta). I like the KSP design, but it would have been interesting to see what other architects come up with.

erbse
April 2nd, 2010, 06:15 PM
it's a shame there was no design competition for tower no.3 (porta). I like the KSP design
Are you talking about this one?
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/1407/maintor1.jpg
Source: DIC / Emptyform


Wasn't there some bigger / more recent rendering, btw?

HD
April 2nd, 2010, 11:04 PM
yes, this one.


about bob's pics - to avoid confusion: this (http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/1875/dic2c.jpg) is getting built, not this (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=ffm20u10.jpg), and this (http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/9884/dic4.jpg) instead of this (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=ffmx6m0.jpg), and this (http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/3274/dic3.jpg) instead of this (http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=ffm4y69a.jpg).

Bob!
April 2nd, 2010, 11:41 PM
Yeah, my bad!
Thank you, HD.

HD
April 3rd, 2010, 06:38 AM
I didn't mean to say it was wrong to post them. it was still good to see the alternative designs. I wish we could see more of them.

erbse
April 3rd, 2010, 07:59 AM
That's how the MainTor site currently looks:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2740/4484841057_b2014237d4_b.jpg


Demolition works start soon.

erbse
April 26th, 2010, 01:37 PM
A fresh aerial visualization showing the whole situation of MainTor from above:

http://i43.tinypic.com/bvq88.jpg
Source: www.maintor-frankfurt.com / DIC

Deadeye Reloaded
June 18th, 2010, 10:22 PM
Any new pictures available? :)

CityHai
June 19th, 2010, 09:31 AM
The current look of the construction site reminds me a bit on - let's say - typical architecture during the 1980ies... There is not really urban atmosphere or any kind of public place like restaurants, lounges, bars, shops etc...

New office buildings is one thing, to reach a better quality for the people staying there is the second thing. I am wondering, if they will reach an "urban city" feeling when it's finished...

droneriot
June 25th, 2010, 12:29 PM
What the hell are you talking about, have you ever been to Frankfurt? Can't see it get much more urban than it already is.

erbse
January 6th, 2011, 05:43 PM
The highrise at the Main river bridge will be the first to get constructed.

The developer of the maintor development (1 x 112m building, 2 x 64m buildings, 1 x 46m building, a couple of residential buildings) has confirmed that the development of the site will commence with the maintor panorama building.

rendering:
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/1875/dic2c.jpg

goschio
January 20th, 2011, 05:19 AM
Demolition of existing buildings is planned for July 2011. Construction could start shortly after according to the Boersen-Zeitung. The developer is currently in negotiation with an anchor tenant. New name of the project is "The Riverside Financial District".

only in german. sorry.
19.01.11 Dekoration DIC Asset will dieses Jahr Großprojekte beginnen

KURZTEXT

DIC Asset will dieses Jahr Großprojekte beginnen
Immobiliengruppe benötigt 50 Prozent Vorvermietung
Börsen-Zeitung, 19.1.2011

tl Frankfurt - Das Gewerbeimmobilienunternehmen DIC Asset AG will 2011 bei seinen beiden großen Projektentwicklungen Maintor in Frankfurt und Opera in Hamburg mit dem Bau beginnen.

"Sobald wir genügend Vorvermietungen haben, legen wir los", sagte der Vorstandsvorsitzende Ulrich Höller bei einem Pressegespräch in Frankfurt. "Ausreichend" sind für ihn mindestens 50 %.

Nachdem die Degussa das Gelände Ende des Vorjahres verlassen hat, soll mit dem Abriss der Maintor-Gebäude (neuer Name "The Riverside Financial District") im Juli 2011 begonnen werden. "Wir führen bereits intensive Gespräche mit Mietinteressenten aus der Financial Community", sagte Höller. Die dortige Villa wird in diesem Jahr umgebaut und soll in den kommenden vier Jahren, also während der Bauzeit auf dem Gelände, für kulturelle Aktivitäten zur Verfügung stehen. "Was da ...
source: DAF/ http://www.boersen-zeitung.de/index.php?li=1&artid=2011012138

HD
January 23rd, 2011, 04:59 PM
the riverside financial district? :|

I wonder if they still plan to build it in several phases.

Dr.Seltsam
January 23rd, 2011, 06:57 PM
Amazing project! :cheers:

goschio
January 23rd, 2011, 10:42 PM
They should make at least one tower fully resdiential.

erbse
June 16th, 2011, 07:26 PM
Addtional information and renderings of the MainTor project from www.maintor-frankfurt.de (http://www.maintor-frankfurt.de/):


Tower Winx: 110m, 29 floors
Portal: 27m, 7 floors
construction: 2012/2013

Maintor Panorama: 64m, 17 floors
construction: 2012

Maintor Primus: 46m, 12 floors
construction: 2011

Maintor Porta: 70m, 19 floors
construction: 2012

MainTor - overview
http://i53.tinypic.com/2mm8j9z.jpg
http://h5.abload.de/img/maintorgesamt68xa.jpg

http://i53.tinypic.com/2v2utz6.jpg
http://www.maintor-frankfurt.de/bilder/objekte/03.jpg

MainTor Panorama
http://i52.tinypic.com/8vui48.jpg
http://www.maintor-frankfurt.de/bilder/objekte/04.jpg

http://i55.tinypic.com/s13lo8.jpg
http://www.maintor-frankfurt.de/bilder/objekte/05.jpg

http://i55.tinypic.com/x7nuf.jpg
http://www.maintor-frankfurt.de

http://i54.tinypic.com/o04f85.jpg
http://www.maintor-frankfurt.de/bilder/panorama/03.jpg

MainTor Primus
http://i53.tinypic.com/1eul49.jpg
http://www.maintor-frankfurt.de

Winx
http://i54.tinypic.com/314w0lt.jpg
http://www.maintor-frankfurt.de/bilder/winx/04.jpg

http://i54.tinypic.com/291ey55.jpg
www.maintor-frankfurt.de

MainTor Porta
http://i54.tinypic.com/e7e9w5.jpg
http://www.maintor-frankfurt.de/bilder/porta/04.jpg

goschio
June 16th, 2011, 11:59 PM
Nice, but too much office again. Why no residential highrises there.

Dancing Banana
June 17th, 2011, 02:55 AM
like it a lot

erbse
June 17th, 2011, 06:34 AM
Nice, but too much office again. Why no residential highrises there.
Well, the website (http://www.maintor-frankfurt.de/) says the following:

- MainTor offers a total area of ~108.000m² with a mix of office & living space, retail space and gastronomy
- the buildings will offer space for ~3.500 employees and 200 exclusive apartments


But I agree, there could be more. Why not make the MainTor Panorama fully residential? Those apartments could belong to the most desirable ones in Germany or even Europe.

Eric Offereins
June 19th, 2011, 02:17 PM
Nice project I like the cladding, the quality is very good. :)

HD
June 29th, 2011, 09:36 AM
the project is officially starting on august 1.


it will take 6 months to demolish all buildings (all but a small historical villa and the skeleton of an old office midrise, which will be redeveloped)
shortly after demolition starts, the first phase of the development will start: the redevelopment of a 50s office midrise (46m, 12 floors) into a new office building called Primus, which after completion will be occupied by the developer itself (DIC)
the next phase (starting 2012) is the construction of two more office buildings, the Panorama (64m, 16 floors) and the Porta (70m, 19 floors)
the residential part (200 apartments) will follow with the Patio and Palazzi buildings
Winx, the tallest tower, will follow in 2013
the date of completion for the whole project is sometime in 2015
580 million euros will be invested
3,500 people will live and work here


for more visit: http://maintor-frankfurt.de/en/home.html


pic of the first phase
http://img862.imageshack.us/img862/4332/mt1.jpghttp://img823.imageshack.us/img823/7718/mt2yt.jpg

HD
July 18th, 2011, 10:02 PM
demolition has started. will post pics later.

goschio
July 18th, 2011, 11:07 PM
Wonderful. :okay:

erbse
July 19th, 2011, 09:33 AM
Great news, I'm looking forward for the photographic evidence! ;)


By the by, I updated the thread title and the initial post with all important renderings of the project:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=456399

takashi48
September 2nd, 2011, 12:13 PM
Demolition in the southwestern corner of the area has begun. This building has been stripped of its facade:

http://i.imgur.com/dAcKy.jpg

It's torn down from the inside out:

http://i.imgur.com/perQz.jpg

pictures by me from today

Skyline.Fan
September 2nd, 2011, 01:32 PM
also here, thank you for the update! :)

JLAG
September 2nd, 2011, 04:02 PM
Great to see some progress. Thanks for the update.

the man from k-town
September 2nd, 2011, 04:05 PM
wow really fast. something is going on in Mainhattan :)

takashi48
September 7th, 2011, 05:48 PM
Trailer for the project:
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http://vimeo.com/vorsicht/maintor

Skyline.Fan
September 7th, 2011, 08:15 PM
fantastico! thank you mr takashi! :)

JLAG
September 8th, 2011, 07:11 AM
Very cool. Thanks

takashi48
October 13th, 2011, 03:35 PM
The small highrise is being scaffolded for its upcoming renovation. The building to the right with its facade of greenish glass will remain untouched. The buildings on the left and right image border will be torn down.

http://i.imgur.com/AeGQT.jpg

View from the south: The corner building is gone, everything else will be torn down as well.

http://i.imgur.com/1nD1E.jpg
my pics from today

goschio
October 15th, 2011, 01:44 AM
Its so nice to see this ugly stuff getting demolished. The new riverfront view will be awesome.

goschio
December 4th, 2011, 01:54 AM
Are there any updates? Demolition should be in its final stage now.

takashi48
December 4th, 2011, 02:57 PM
I took two pics yesterday. The largest building in the center of the site is almost gone, but there are quite a few buildings on the edges that still need to be demolished. They will probably be finished by around february/march of next year.

Der niedrige Teil des bestehenden Hochhauses wird zurzeit zurückgebaut. Der zentrale Kreuzbau ist schon fast vollständig abgerissen.

http://i.imgur.com/CjO1Q.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/N8cGn.jpg
meine Bilder von heute morgen

the man from k-town
January 12th, 2012, 03:33 PM
new pics and news :

http://www.abload.de/img/01fv1df1v1qwktj.jpg

http://www.dic-ag.de/media/immobilien/FFM_Degussa/MainTor_Panorama-Bruecke.jpg
www.dic-ag.de/

they found new tenants, union investment will be main tenant for the "porta".

http://www.abload.de/img/l1040284etp9b.jpg
by epizentrum 12/8/11

more info here:
http://www.deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/showthread.php?t=5886&page=21

Deadeye Reloaded
January 12th, 2012, 09:08 PM
Wow, this will be a great improvement for this whole area! :applause: :okay:

Bembelkönig
January 12th, 2012, 09:34 PM
Isn't it time to move this thread to the U/C section as (as shown above) the construction/redevelopment has already begun..? :cheers:

Any objections?

joshsam
January 12th, 2012, 09:45 PM
^^They are only tearing down the building that stood there...

HD
February 3rd, 2012, 11:42 AM
not quite. the first stage of the development - the Maintor Primus - has been under construction for weeks now.

the second stage - the Maintor Porta - is about to start construction.


http://i51.tinypic.com/kbsis8.jpg
(Maintor Primus is the one in the foreground, Maintor Porta the one in the background)

Ni3lS
February 4th, 2012, 12:57 AM
Well, that's great but where are the photos?

cloud32
February 4th, 2012, 02:00 PM
Is it me does does this design seem a bit dated and boring: low standard 1960's style?