^^next thursday

Drapers Garden certainly stands out, and so does Royal London Hospital Towers with that cladding! Broadgate looks nice from that angle, I hope there are some skyscrapers planned between Broadgate and the main cluster (or future cluster). Isn't Broadgate Tower scheduled for completion this month?

Yeah

There was some talk about Developing the older Broadgate Development buildings on Skyscrapernews;Heres the article.
Shit-Sorry,casn't find it :bash: Well i looked quite far back...

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/747BroadgateTowerCouldGetTallNeighbour_pic1.jpg

Number 4 is having a tower drawn up for the site at the moment.

Yeah

There was some talk about Developing the older Broadgate Development buildings on Skyscrapernews;Heres the article.
Shit-Sorry,casn't find it :bash: Well i looked quite far back...

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/news.php?ref=747

The article says that Broadwalk house (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=broadwalkhouse-london-unitedkingdom) is top of the list for redevelopment.

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I really like this building though. :(

What? this is by far one of the best buildings in Broadgate?!?? 199 bishopsgate is shit take that one! My guess is that they will try and replace it with a terrible glass piece of shit....EH should list it! :)

Oh no, i think that building is great :(

It's an example of a modern stone building that actually looks half decent. :gaah:

I like that one.They should demolish the piece of crap,100 liverpool street.

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Number 4 is having a tower drawn up for the site at the moment.

Interesting seeing that picture. The skyline would look sensational with some skyscrapers in that gap between Broadgate and Swiss RE, T42, Leadenhall, Pinnacle, 100 Bish and Heron.

From daejn on flickr:

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Just like to say for the record how much the Stock Exchange reclad makes a differance to this picture.

^ along with the dissappearance of Drapers and 20FC

Couldn't 100 Liverpool St. be done with Crossrail to minimise disruption and make possible an amazing duel entrance to both new iconic tower and the new station?

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/news.php?ref=747

The article says that Broadwalk house (http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=broadwalkhouse-london-unitedkingdom) is top of the list for redevelopment.

this is going to happen, the occupants are all fully aware of the intentions. it's just a matter of when.

oh well keeps some of us busy!

hmmmm there are so many other buildings at Broadgate that need to go, This one atleast is actually rather detailed and quiet attractive as a building.

People hoping for the redevelopment of Broadwalk should keep wishin'. It is an attractive, compact building on a difficult site, currently occupied by the splendid law firm Ashurst, who are not the kinds to be shunted off out. It's much more likely that the east side of the broadgate complex - down bishopsgate - will get redeveloped. It needs it.

^ along with the dissappearance of Drapers and 20FC

Yes, much for the worse in the case of the excellent Drapers'.

Interesting to note that they are thinking they might redevelop the UBS building on Liverpool St. I like it - it looks like something from the compouter game Syndicate Wars - but it is quite "tired" nowadays.

As for Broadwalk, it is lovely, and inside it has terrific retro empire-state style lifts and stuff too.

To return to topic, the new towers look much better than I thought they would. Dunno why everyone goes on about the lift shafts, they look ok

I like this tower very much, just looks silly on its own, is it complete yet? July is the date for completion but no news of it being completed yet.

currently occupied by the splendid law firm Ashurst, who are not the kinds to be shunted off out.

like i said before all the occupants are aware. I'm led to believe a date has been given

sneaky peak of the main entrance and a couple from nearby

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Nice pictures, LOVE the inside. Btw, what are those construction sites in pics 3 and 4?

^^bishopsgate goodsyard rail link and northgate

Oh no, i think that building is great :(

It's an example of a modern stone building that actually looks half decent. :gaah:

It is a mess of a building. An ungainly shape with no redeeming qualities at street level. It is basically a shape that has had a repeated pattern of cladding sprayed onto it. The side also looks stupid. A new building here that fits into the new improved access routes opened up with the Broadgate Tower would do wonders.

Nice pictures, LOVE the inside. Btw, what are those construction sites in pics 3 and 4?

Oh that is the UNESCO Shoreditch Conservation Area ;)

mr mukkjoy can i have a look in person at the main entrance at some point....i really find it to sexy haha!

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^^bishopsgate goodsyard rail link and northgate

Great pics! On the other hand, I have never seen so much old junk for sale in one place as that market. I saw someone selling vacuum cleaner wheels once.

mr mukkjoy can i have a look in person at the main entrance at some point....i really find it to sexy haha!

Yeah...could a regular joe like me just walk in and see it?

Or would I be turned away at the door.

Yeah...could a regular joe like me just walk in and see it?

Or would I be turned away at the door.

regular joes would get arrested or worse:ohno:

so i better put my ninja uniform on :D

In that last picture, are those horrible brick buildings due for demolition? I hope so, theyre horrendous!

In that last picture, are those horrible brick buildings due for demolition? I hope so, theyre horrendous!

:lol:that one on the right is the building used for the external shots of the dragons den. it's not actually filmed inside though, they actually film it in studios somewhere else

I'm a little concerned by the interior, those canopies over the escalators are just big dust traps!

I'm a little concerned by the interior, those canopies over the escalators are just big dust traps!

why have you been told your cleaning them?

we've managed to clean them using the cleaning system without problems. it's all part of CDM you have to able to service areas once built.

:lol:

i think the canopies are great, theyll be perfect for jackie chan sliding down one in a movie.

hi Mukkjoy, any update on the lighting scheme go live? I`ll be looking out tonight

hi Mukkjoy, any update on the lighting scheme go live? I`ll be looking out tonight

won't be tonight but soon. your not going to see much until people start moving in but i will post when it's switched on.

here's a video (http://www.flickr.com/photos/wawd/2719073003/) i took of the aircraft lights flashing (in unison) atop of broadgate if anyone's interested...

Cool! Thanks, good vid:)

phew glad someone liked it, i was wondering if that vid was going a bit too far into skyscraper geek-dom ;)

nah don't worry, I walked over the embankment bridge the other night and found myself marveling at the flashing lights!

nah don't worry, I walked over the embankment bridge the other night and found myself marveling at the flashing lights!

good to know it's not just me then :)

i think the canopies are great, theyll be perfect for jackie chan sliding down one in a movie.

Sod Jackie, ill do it myself!

Seriously though, the canopies bring so much colour into the space. How anyone could dislike them I do not know.

like i said before all the occupants are aware. I'm led to believe a date has been given

I can find no evidence of this. Link pls

I can find no evidence of this. Link pls

that's a shame as i can only go by my own personal dealings with the occupants which is minimal, although it has been brought up in conversation more than once i guess until these things are seen in writing it's just plain gossip. anyway why would Ashurst even want to talk me. I'm sure swinging 50m lengths of steel over a law firms building doesn't ring alarm bells within, and even if it did why would construction and development even come up in conversation, nobody ever talks to me about such topics.;)

:rock:Oh right, are you Gerald Ronson or something? :rock:

^^:lol:

Is this complete yet?

Thanks for building this for me, Mukkjoy - looking forward to moving in next summer.

Someone asked who the interior architects were going to be - it's Gensler for Reed Smith.

Thanks for building this for me
looking back now it was a real pleasure, but i didn't do it on my own
looking forward to moving in next summer.
next summer? interiors start soon, so why so long?

From daejn on flickr:

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i think broadgate is a beutiful tower better than tower 42. Also jp morgan didn't have enough why not Broadgate?

Broadgate doesn't have the space to satisfy JPM's needs.

As for T42, personally I still find it the most attractive looking tower in the City.

Ive noticed it looks really good from St Pauls though, incredibly slender it doesnt look like it is an office or even residential at all. It looks more like an art piece.

JPM are off to RS eventually aren't they

Ive noticed it looks really good from St Pauls though, incredibly slender it doesnt look like it is an office or even residential at all. It looks more like an art piece.

I do think that it looks best side on :)

looking back now it was a real pleasure, but i didn't do it on my own

Most of it, then. It wasn't quite built for me, in truth, either.

next summer? interiors start soon, so why so long?

Installing the spiral staircases and changing the cladding on the top 11 floors to our corporate colours will take some time.

Seriously, no idea. Maybe they are just aiming to exceed expectations - but they've always said summer 2009 (by which I think they mean May/June).

I thought it was complete in July. Thats what British Land said, that it would be complete by then.

Reed Smith not moving in till next summer...... probably are seeing out tenancies in current office locations. Perhaps the partners are going for top of the range fit out. Does seem a long time to wait though.

the floorplates are too small for JPM.

probably are seeing out tenancies in current office locations.

It's not that. We recently merged and I think the leases on both legacy offices have a while to run - they want us in one building asap - which makes it seem odder still.

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^^Woah Nelly, those are fantastic photos

it looks to nice....im gonna just try and blag it in there when its open haha.....

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Wow, looks more like a movie set for some Sci-Fi movie, what a stunning interior.

Shame about those silly over engineered coloured canopies. What's the point of those?

Do they need to have a point? Isn't that what design is all about? Form over function? They look amazing and create a great focal point in the reception.

they are coloured in relation to the double-height lift system. When you enter you are given a colour-coded swipe card for the relevent lift and the coloured canopy directs you to the correct lift section.

Do they need to have a point? Isn't that what design is all about? Form over function? They look amazing and create a great focal point in the reception.

But I think it detracts from the dramatic space above. It's cluttered and enclosed an otherwise minimalist cavern. Having said that my two year old daughter would love it!

they are coloured in relation to the double-height lift system. When you enter you are given a colour-coded swipe card for the relevent lift and the coloured canopy directs you to the correct lift section.

The best architecture lets you see where you're going with minimum signage and fuss, Foster's Canary Wharf underground being a prime example. This is too precious for my liking.

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Who didn't wipe their feet?? Hmmm?!

Stunning interior, Im looking foward to seeing what Bishopsgate Tower, Shard, Leadenhall and Heron are like inside.

The canopies look fantastic IMO.

from Primrose
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I feel sick.

What did you eat?

Canopes?

http://www.beetonfortime.com/assets/images/canape.gif

mmmmmm nice!:lol:

Never eat prawns!

Did you know they hang around sewage outlet pipes treading water with their mouths open! The dirty bastards!

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stunning pics in posts #1810 and 1813 mukkbloke
i've not been keeping up... it's looking very chic indeed.
i also found out recently that my little old canon 350d camera does AEB so am well chuffed :D

It looks quite Beethamesque in that pic of yours Darjole!

Yep.

Nice one DarJoLe :cheers:

What did you take it on?

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The picture with the pink lady is fantastic. :yes:

Is it real? lol

Looks photoshopped.

edit
wrong thread

Anyone able to give a date as to when the pedestrian route through the middle will be open?

Ha nice picture with the lady. Have they planted the trees? around the buildings?

Cheers, I was doing a little photoshoot of a friend of mine for her new musical project, it is real, just a little photoshoped, I selectively increased the exposure of her and the buildings in the foreground.

Ha nice picture with the lady. Have they planted the trees? around the buildings?

trees arrive on the 22nd.

gazkinz your mixing with the wrong people, there's no pub there so she must have stole that glass. that makes you an accessory.

Haha, yeah stolen from the Princess Alice on Commercial Street, well they made her buy a drink for so using the toliet, so that was her revenge! I made for an interesting prop too!

She sure looks pretty at night...:)
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Beautiful photo Downfallen
The lift shafts look so good illuminated, hope they decided to keep them lit

Crown Place looks complete?

The average joe must get so confused over this tower, looking thin from some angles and yet fat from others.

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I wish this tower was a lot close to the main future cluster will stand. But it will look much better when it has some neighbours.

Amazing picture, Downfallen - a bit of HDR going on there?

Trees being delivered today when i walked past and plenty of men working on the landscaping/paving outside.

coloured lighting scheme - greens and blues now visible in one of the shafts at the back..

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Wow, loving the night shots! The lifts look awesome. :)

Can't wait to see how the concourse between the buildings looks at night.

Nice to see the trees going in too1

I just thought....Isnt the green and blue lighting the same colour as the escalator canopies in the lobby, directing you to the correct bank of lifts for your floor?

Those lights in the shafts might indicate the dividing line beween lift banks.

This tower, as well as the Blue Fin Building, have been nominated for the Building Design Carbuncle of the Year Cup 2008.

Who will get the wooden spoon in BD’s Carbuncle Cup this year?
(http://www.bdonline.co.uk/story.asp?sectioncode=449&storycode=3123978&c=2&encCode=00000000018384cd)03 October 2008

Broadgate Tower
Architect SOM
Location Bishopsgate, London EC2
Year built 2008
Developer British Land
Planning authority City of London

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“Where did this come from?” asks Times critic Tom Dyckhoff. He is right, of course. While the traditionalists are hand-wringing over Doon Street and the Walkie Talkie, they hardly noticed this “dreary slab of low-rent Americana”.

“With its athletic cross-bracing so at odds with its stumpiness (a pointless, pyrrhic nod, doubtless, to the anti-height brigade), it marks the utterly depressing pinnacle of Britain’s architectural achievement after 10 years of financial boom. If the credit crunch can at least save us from this, bring it on.

“Worst of all, you can see it all over the East End, jostling the Gherkin out of the way with all the manners of a City trader,” adds Dyckhoff, who is surely not alone in wanting to see this spec office development be a hot contender for this year’s Carbuncle prize.

Blue Fin building
Architect Allies & Morrison
Location Bankside, London SE1
Year built 2007
Developer Land Securities
Planning authority Southwark Council

http://www.bdonline.co.uk/Pictures/web/w/k/s/Allies_and_Morris_bl_17A9A3.jpg

“It is like being stuck with a nosy bore at a party,” says architect and author Christopher Woodward about this new headquarters built in Southwark, central London.

Opposite Allies & Morrison’s own office, whose refubishment of the Festival Hall is on this year’s Stirling shortlist, it houses the headquarters of IPC Media, a leading UK consumer magazine publisher. The open-plan offices have floor-to-ceiling windows, a 10th floor roof garden and views over the Thames, but Woodward says the building has “no architectural qualities whatsoever. It’s staggeringly bad and represents the end of civilisation as far as I am concerned.”

What gives it extra Carbuncle points is that it’s a building you just can’t get away from.

“It crops up all over views of south London in an unforgivable way,” he adds.

Dyckhoff makes a good point about Broadgate. It is far too wide from certain angles.

Both of those buildings are strong contenders for sure. I am still surprised that Broadgate got planning permission, both for its design and its location.

are those blinds being installed in all the windows?

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Id be surprised as the blinds were already installed within the glass units.

maybe some kind of protective sheeting for while they're fitting out the interior?

I know i've just slagged off the fenchurch street tower, but this one is pretty poor too.

Its not the worst, its just that awful grey box bit on the back thats shocking.

Blinds are already installed as part of the window fitting by the looks of it. The 201 Building had 3 floors virtually fitted out by the looks of it...

I know i've just slagged off the fenchurch street tower, but this one is pretty poor too.

Its not the worst, its just that awful grey box bit on the back thats shocking.I agree it is shocking.

I was watching the local news on ITV the other day and you could clearly see Broadgate next to St Paul's right behind the cathedral. Awful.

I was initially supportive of Broadgate, because I didn't mind the "fat" design of it, or its location. It seemed an ideal place for tall buildings. But clearly the architect was on LSD when he designed the tower and the Corp of London planners must have been at lunch when it came to deciding what impact this tower would have on St Paul's and the skyline.

Tall, well designed towers can be an asset to a city. Ugly and ill placed towers can destroy a skyline in a single swipe.

My views on 20FC and RS are well known.....but although I think Leadenhall is a fantastic tower, I also believe its location is wrong too and will have a negative impact on the skyline.

imo this is an truly shocking building and cannot believe it got the go ahead.
thought i might change my mind about it when it was built....but no.
imo it looks dated and whats that white box thing all about :ohno:

I think all the others are great apart from this and Fenchurch. :)

Wow... apart from the back I thought people liked this tower :dunno:

I personally think its great, from all angles. But I do disagree with its location. If the Bishopsgate Goodsyard site ever gets developed on as planned, along with the other towers in the area, then I don't think that will matter much anyway.

^^Yeah, not sure why suddenly there's all this criticism. Overall I like the building. Not the most elegant proportions (it wouldn't look so fat from some angles if it were taller) and the messy stuff on top and at the back is disappointing - but it still looks great, especially at night. I have no problem at all with the location - means the City cluster could potentially spread north towards it in time, for one thing.

With the level of criticism this tower gets from the skyscraper enthusiasts on this site, you have to wonder what the general public must think of it.

I've consistently hated this building from the outset and I'm not warming to it now either. I hope it does win the carbuncle cup - it would be a truly worthy winner.

I'm surprised that the Bluefin building is on the list though. I don't mind it at all. Granted it is a large building, especially given where it's located but I do quite like the facades, it has a generous publicly accessible atrium and has played a large role in making that part of Southwark a viable office destination.

I'm surprised that the Bluefin building is on the list though. I don't mind it at all.

You have just lost all credibility after that comment :ohno:

:lol: just kidding

the blue fin building does indeed work quite well up close, interesting dynamic facade creating highlights as you pass by, nice pedestrian realm with heart warming retail outlets.

But as the review pointed out it is the more distant experience of its hulking mass that threatens to overwealm the positives. You could imagine it as a start to some major bulking up of South London but in its context you cant see this happening as it is surrounded by quite a bit of interesting Victoriana and railway systems.

It would be good if this massing was carried on to Palestra and beyond with skyline moments created by the Rogers bankside towers and Blackfriars, possible I suppose in the long term. This to me would generate a City centre mass becoming of the areas literal spatial geography.

Having said all that I think the other Banksides are worse, initial reactions still. I had hoped the wood cladding would bring some warmth but it has ended up looking cheap. Being residential, the ground aspects are not as inviting or obvious as the Blue fin building either

With the level of criticism this tower gets from the skyscraper enthusiasts on this site, you have to wonder what the general public must think of it.

To be honest I think I recall most comments are in favour of this building

...the last couple of posts are just that...the last couple of a thread several years old :)

Trees were being delivered today.

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Even if this building isn't flavour of the month from afar, upclose it oozes quality. During the day it can look a bit bland from a distance, but at night it is fantastic. Perhaps it is isolated right now during the day, and needs the Norton Folgate, Bishopsgate Goodsyard developments to keep it company.

Interesting enchanted forest being built there! The quality of the building does outstrip its rather bland and blocky appearance but as you say it will be quiet different once a cluster has formed around it. I hope they sort out the issues with the light bar with the Norton Folgate development.

Here's me thinking they would plant little seeds and wait for them to grow into trees. :doh:

A couple things I want to say. This building may not present itself too well to the North West, but to the South where I live, it looks splendid in my opinion (sorry). Where the cross bracing and mullions could have been merely adequate, we actually have some nice detailing on this building. London has a new Tower and has helped turn the area around Spitalfields into even more of a destination than it hitherto was. Is that not worth celebrating?
Everyone, please go and have a look!

Bit of housekeeping though. I noticed from where I live, the aircraft warning light on top of the lift block has gone out. Can we get a man in to change the bulb? While he's at it 30 St Mary Axe has lost nearly all of it's aircraft warning lights and the ones at the very summit have not been lit for years now!

It does look very nice up close. Wouldnt mind wroking in there.

It really does look great up close, a real gem rising from it's less than attractive surroundings. However, i agree with those that have their reservations about it from a distance.

That atrium looks stunning though, i can see it being used a lot for filming..futuristic movies/generic "New York" or "Hong Kong" setting etc.

That atrium looks stunning though, i can see it being used a lot for filming..futuristic movies/generic "New York" or "Hong Kong" setting etc.

Or a new series of hustle. Or the real hustle.

The covered walkway (now with trees) is great and significantly enhances the street scene. Just a shame about the tower....

Thanks for that pic Delegado.

You have just lost all credibility after that comment :ohno:

:lol: just kidding

Well I've been trying for a while :lol:

That picture is good. This looks really great, especially at street level and with the trees, looks all very modern, brilliant stuff. Ive always thought trees really work with modern glass buildings compared to old ones which I dont think the tree's work as well with.

That street shot gives it presence but It is a bit of an odd character - Its a bit wide in parts as suggested earlier in the thread. Looks ok a part of a widening skyline if viewing from Crystal Palace but its best view is certainly South facing from Shorditch High St (its NW face). This building was designed to look good close up but certainly not from the west side - I'm assuming those shafts at the ugly side are the elevators!

That street shot gives it presence but It is a bit of an odd character - Its a bit wide in parts as suggested earlier in the thread. Looks ok a part of a widening skyline if viewing from Crystal Palace but its best view is certainly South facing from Shorditch High St (its NW face). This building was designed to look good close up but certainly not from the west side - I'm assuming those shafts at the ugly side are the elevators!

its a strange one this, its like 5 different towers - its proportions change dramatically from where ever you view, from Bethnal Green, appears proportionally 'more pleasing'

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^^ that is the best view of this building i have seen on here.
still not a fan though:ohno:

Agreed, that is perhaps its best side.

Oh. From all the images I've seen of it, its always appeared sort of triangular in shape. I didnt realise it was a box.

Nice and interesting building.. donno bout u guys but it looks ok in any angles->>
well design! metalic->> :cool:

I agree - it's a lot more confident than Citypoint. The best part is, it's pushing the city limits northwards into shitty terrain that is crying out for development. Let's not be fussy here.

Good progress on the atrium from last week.

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Its looking amazing, thanks for the update.

Looks really christmassy to me for some reason :?

Please tell me that big grey wall is hoardings

Please tell me that big grey wall is hoardings

it's going to have a frame fixed in front of it and then climbers grown up it:)

it's going to have a frame fixed in front of it and then climbers grown up it:)

Hey man, are you still on site overseeing things, or have you moved on to pastures new?

Doesn't seem that long ago since the site was just a load of hoarding around a load of old weeds and broken concrete. Amazing how time flies. :lol:

The trees make it look amazing at the lobby of each building, the trees go really well with the glass and steel structure and the modern interior.

yes i'm still around.............and around...........and around. feels like forever!
not for long though. i know what your saying about time flying though. this time last year we were just finishing the cooling tower steel and had just hit the top with cladding on two elevations. the cranes were winded off every other day and think i must have just added my first post:nuts:

i must go and look at this up close myself, love the trees!

People may quibble about aspects of the tower's design (which I think is very good) but surely no-one is going to criticise the atrium - it's a stunning space;

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I love the movement in this building - every surface swoops, curves or veers off at acute angles - great to photograph;

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I still think its too fat, but the whole complex looks great at steet level. Absolutely world class.

Are there restaurants under canopy?

The atrium is loooverly. saves this whole tower from being a bit crap, i think.

Wow those photos really show the good side to this building - the atrium is gorgeous! fantastic use of angles and curves, it seems to have a lovely 'flow' to it!

The public realm is fantastic in this development, that atrium reminds me slightly of how Beethams Trinty development might look at ground level, if it's ever built.

Absolutely stunning ! Especially the atrium. Looks incredibly 21st Century, fantastic! =] London needs more high quality projects like this, on top of the ones already underway or proposed etc.

this is looking great. nice one mukkjoy :)
i wonder if someone will name it the guillotine or something by the time it's finished. maybe that's not sexual enough though. any suggestions?
oh and what proportion of the tower's load was it that's supported by those crazy columns? impressive stuff.
mind you i think that canopy was a bit of an over-reaction to the smoking ban and apparently if it's got 3 sides you can still choke to death on passive smoking? :nuts:

The public realm is fantastic in this development, that atrium reminds me slightly of how Beethams Trinty development might look at ground level, if it's ever built.

aye, the top of the tower leaves me a little cold, but the groundfloor space looks spectacular.....muchos open space, and wowser, glass and shiny steel, looking super futuristic. Think I shall be out and about on the jimbomobile tmrw armed with camera for a City update. It's been a while.

When did the portacabins go chaps?

Its a shame that its not thinner. The bottom is fantastic.

the galleria area was opened to the public today. here's a few rushed shots taken earlier
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Looking great. Would they hassle me if I go through there with my camera? :shifty:

The inside looks great, and the outside close up, but I was on Hampstead Heath a few weeks ago and this looks positively minging from there...it's too fat. We need to fast forward to 2020 quickly when the gap between this and the city has been closed. Then I guess we'll be trying to do the same for 20FC. Why is it that projects that can have such a detrimental effect on the aesthetic of the skyline are so prominent..if this was in the centre of the city or at CW or it would be great.

I was under the impression there were going to be bars and restaurants and retail on the ground floor of 201 Bishopsgate? Might be a bit lifeless without something drawing people in. Its a very nice space and its under cover, I think it would become very popular.

@mukkjoy

Truly amazing. It blows almost any public realm project in the City by miles.

I was under the impression there were going to be bars and restaurants and retail on the ground floor of 201 Bishopsgate? Might be a bit lifeless without something drawing people in. Its a very nice space and its under cover, I think it would become very popular.

they are still planned but not for some time yet.

wow they're some quality photos, i like the different esculator colours, they add some life and warmth to a very metallic, futuristic looking area.

Looks fantastic! Very modern and very nice. How can English Heritage hate this sort of stuff compared to old brick buildings, which are far less superior than this IMO.

The inside looks great, and the outside close up, but I was on Hampstead Heath a few weeks ago and this looks positively minging from there...it's too fat. We need to fast forward to 2020 quickly when the gap between this and the city has been closed. Then I guess we'll be trying to do the same for 20FC. Why is it that projects that can have such a detrimental effect on the aesthetic of the skyline are so prominent..if this was in the centre of the city or at CW or it would be great.

agree - the back is fugly. Any view from the east or south is much better.

the public realm is superb, they were landscaping and moving the trees in during drizzly Sunday. The lighting is superb.

Wow, they've made a ton of progress over the weekend on the landscaping and paving work. :)

Great shots Mukkjoy - love the lighting for the atrium, the abundance of reflective metal makes it look quite spectacular, even more so combined with a rainy november day. :D

that's the shiniest public realm i've ever seen :)

Completed Project!

It aint big.
But is beautiful
Good stuff

We're in in Feb/Mar, apparently, so it's come forward.

The Panorama program had a minor failure with the building on the right, but without a wide-angle lense, it's the next best thing. :p

http://fc14.deviantart.com/fs39/i/2008/327/0/d/Under_Construction_162_by_JohnnySix.jpg

Passer by admiring the new pedestrian area :

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the building on the left looks very out of place

Just a quick one; so people are saying that the whole complex (both buildings) are about 70% let. Who took that space and how many sqm are left?

I think theres a law firm in ther up top.

Reed Smith (used to have the names 'Richards Butler' behind it). they've got the top 13-14 floors and move in in June I believe.

I see. Thanks. How about the low rise? I believe its similar size to the tower in terms of floor space?

Henderson Global Investors

Just a quick one; so people are saying that the whole complex (both buildings) are about 70% let. Who took that space and how many sqm are left?

http://www.blmicrosite.com/beldev/Occupiers.htm

the building on the left looks very out of place

Think it's one of the broadgate buildings they're looking at demolishing/redeveloping - so another 5 years, who knows?

http://www.blmicrosite.com/beldev/Occupiers.htm

That is truely impressive. With 75000 m2 is bit of broadgate is a lot bigger than both T42 and Swiss Re. They are about 40000 I think and the top half of Swiss Re was vacant for quite a while (and that was during the good times).

Just goes to show the kind of clout and connections British Land has. I guess. All good tokens for 122L. One day :)

I think and the top half of Swiss Re was vacant for quite a while (and that was during the good times).
Yea but that was not for lack of suiters, Swiss Re are just very fussy about their flatmates and who blames them.

And the issues with renting out circular floorplates.

lighting scheme round the backside is on tonight. Looks quite flattering

From my borrowed Sigma 10 - 20mm today:

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excellent :cheers:

^^the lads in the machine are putting up the christmas lights (which is nice)

lighting scheme round the backside is on tonight. Looks quite flattering

Interesting! What colour/shape is the lighting? Anybody knows if it's planned for all sides?

Taken the other day in Sunday's appalling weather.

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Interesting! What colour/shape is the lighting? Anybody knows if it's planned for all sides?

i plan to get a few shots of it in the next few days

Dan.McCurry:
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Manuel.A.69:
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beechlights:
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Love the first pic, but it looks to be edited to me...there is big sky and there is big sky!

The second one is taken all the way from Victoria!

yes mark i agree.
lol

Love the first pic, but it looks to be edited to me...there is big sky and there is big sky!

Just looks like a long shutter speed to me - you do get some huge skys in winter.

The second one is taken all the way from Victoria!

I don't like long lenses, it's so very different to how we really would see it unless looking through binoculars.

Just looks like a long shutter speed to me - you do get some huge skys in winter.

yeah it could be some extreme HDR and a long shutter speed. i think the pink reflections in the glass mean it must be the case.

Love the first pic, but it looks to be edited to me...there is big sky and there is big sky!

look at how the cranes in the pic are black in parts... someone has been playing with multiply in photoshop. silly guy should have used a gradient mask to hide that :)

Thats what I thought...St Pauls seems to have a rim

beautiful light today..
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brilliant shot ^^

One beautiful addition to London!

I wondered into the new outdoor atrium today, there wasn't a barrier blocking it off. Anyway as I was taking photos I looked up and there was a worker 5 floors up frantically miming that I needed a hard hat and fluorescent jacket to be in that area. :lol:

Anyway, one thing I noticed was that where the site joins the green iron bridge over the railway lines there seems to be a big drop in ground height, meaning that pedestrians won't be able to walk across that bridge and directly onto the future Northgate site without going back to the main road. The green metalwork itself doesn’t really fit in now either, are there any plans for that in the future?

One beautiful addition to London!

good addition.....but beautiful it ain't. Wonderful photos in recent days, the light has been incredible. Shame to think I've been brutally hungover and unable to leave flat to enjoy it today! Parp. Bonkers to think that this crept upon us with planning permission and construction u/w almost immediately. Kudos to British Land.

I wondered into the new outdoor atrium today, there wasn't a barrier blocking it off. Anyway as I was taking photos I looked up and there was a worker 5 floors up frantically miming that I needed a hard hat and fluorescent jacket to be in that area. :lol:

its open to the public so i don't know who the mime artist was but i think they were playing

Anyway, one thing I noticed was that where the site joins the green iron bridge over the railway lines there seems to be a big drop in ground height, meaning that pedestrians won't be able to walk across that bridge and directly onto the future Northgate site without going back to the main road. The green metalwork itself doesn’t really fit in now either, are there any plans for that in the future?

there are steps to the left and right of the bridge which drop to street level and also two accessible lifts so there is no need to go back to the main road. these are due for completion by Christmas but may not open to the public until fit out is completed.

but beautiful it ain't.

come on fella watch my feelings!:cry:

:hug:

^^^ hedging my bets that your next project will be worth visiting too ;)

:hug:

^^^ hedging my bets that your next project will be worth visiting too ;)

apparently it's going to be popular around 2012:dunno:

Hmmm are you still married?...Im a single dad now you know ;)

:lol:

@Mukkjoy
I'm certainly looking forward for that new job if it means such brillant pictures!
would this position involve working on the opposite bank of the Thames? ;)

Hmmm are you still married?...Im a single dad now you know ;)

:lol:you don't change! and don't dare ever.

:lol:

@Mukkjoy
I'm certainly looking forward for that new job if it means such brillant pictures!
would this position involve working on the opposite bank of the Thames? ;)

no i'm off to the olympic village in the new year which should be errrr interesting.

what do you do mukkjoy? or is it a secret? :)

i reckon he drives a cement mixer.

More like riding a horse around the site whipping workers. :ohno:

come on fella watch my feelings!:cry:

the construction was/is perfect! Faultless, and flung up in no time at all. My engineering skills are about as advanced as my godson's duplo skyscraper towers.

I second that, the construction is superb. We've all enjoyed watching this go up. It's the architects who need to be put against a wall and shot and the planners for approving this building in this particular location.

So to paraphrase...."congratulations of your new baby! we know you worked so hard to get there and are really proud of your work cause you certainly put in your best effort! However, you know its as ugly a sin dont you?! "

On page 1 of this thread there is a render showing the tower almost paper thin, a brick lined road with one car and lots of beautiful young things wandering all over the place. I wonder if someone could take a pic in that exact spot?!

This one?

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/1639BroadgateTower_pic2.jpg

That one, yes. Can it really appear so thin from that position?

they havn't done anything to the wall on the left yet, but they shouldn't make it green, its not london.

they havn't done anything to the wall on the left yet, but they shouldn't make it green, its not london.

isn't that precisely why they SHOULD go ahead with the green wall, london needs all the greenery it can get, particularly in the city

I agree....theres a long green wall at the new Westfield Shepherds Bush...its absolutely amazing!

they havn't done anything to the wall on the left yet, but they shouldn't make it green, its not london.

Isn't london one of the greenest cities in the world? In terms of parks and trees we are very fortunate.

http://www.london.gov.uk/london-life/environment/green-london/index.jsp

london is the greenest city of its size in the world, yes.

But it can be so much more greener. I'm talking about green roofs. :cheer:

there was a great sunrise this morning:
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I m still snuggled up with 3 gorgeous cats when that thing happens...

stunning photo.

makes me want to go camping on primrose hill. :)

though last time i slept in a park, someone called for an ambulence, who then called the police who then told me to 'wake up or get arrested'. ah, brighton.

Is this skyscraper officially finished and if so what date was it competed?

it's still being fitted out

yes but the building itself has been complete for a while. if a building isn't complete until its full up, we could be waiting for a good while yet. surely a building is complete when pc certs are served? back at the end of july in broadgates case

yeah i would agree in the case of a spec build

That one, yes. Can it really appear so thin from that position?

it looks a bit unbelievable at first indeed, but if you look at the lines at the ground which are probably parallel to the buildings orientation it makes sense that one cannot see any of the sides from that angle

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looks great, fantastic pics, i guess that's another one completed

I was in Hackney today and saw the three aircraft beacons flashing...

I was in Hackney today and saw the three aircraft beacons flashing...

:lol:what is it about the the flashing lights on this thread?
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^^ woah, hell's donkeys. That's a bit funky no? Well done boys.

:) That man in the high vis in the second pic does not look human at all!

:) That man in the high vis in the second pic does not look human at all!

SUPER HUMAN its all the rage this christmas:lol:

:lol: thats your lovely bubby telling you off in your avatar...hes sooooocutey!

Cannot wait to see this one open and fully functioning.

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Looming behind my hotel on the 1st day of '09

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Nice design at floor.

How come this is not in the completed projects forum?

According to the front desk, staff have begun to move into the tower.

I think this baby is done and dusted, should be joining Willis building in the completed projects thread.

^^^ Then we need to find ways to keep a certain Mucky person interested in the site.

Well and truly done, I agree, move it into Completed Projects.

Goat Rope, I love your pics, they all capture London in a very unusual and uncommon way; I keep seeing them on other threads as well and had to comment, hats off to you mate.

Goat Rope, I love your pics, they all capture London in a very unusual and uncommon way; I keep seeing them on other threads as well and had to comment, hats off to you mate.


^^ Thank you :)

Time to ride off into the sunset?

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:applause:

Nice pic.