Port Elizabeth

Aerial view - Cape Receife and city.
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Aerial View - Cape Recife and Marine Drive
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Aerial view - Marine Drive
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Map of Madiba Bay Leisure Park
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Big Cats Precinct
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Big 5 Precinct
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Adventure Precinct
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Coastal and Leisure
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Golf Precinct
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Agri Precinct
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Northern Node
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Retail and Leisure Hub
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Eco Precinct
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Madiba Bay Railway Route
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international airport ha ha ha ha ha. welcome piellijean

Billie Jean? just kidding, welcome to SCC, looks like the normal estate/ game park kinda thing, doubt that airport will be any bigger than virginia

Intersting... i wonder if it will happen in its entirity tho.

Guys, the "international airport" is the existing PE airport. It has international status but does not have international flights

man can people please stop using nelson's name to sell stuff

^^ This is PE. all they ever do is use his name for EVERYTHING!!! makes me sick. they seem to think that by calling everything Nelson this, Mandela that and a few token madiba's here and there that they will actually rise in importance.

To become a better place economically and in the tourism trade they have to offer the right products and not ride on Mandela's name.

^^ Hey, whatever works for them. If they're slowly rising to be a better place, then we can't say too much about that. :cheers: I hope that city can really find its way... then maybe it let up on all the Mandela naming craze...

PE has been trying to find its way for decades. i think the province has too much infighting and basically no competitive advantages over other centres in south africa.

Its too far from Gauteng to be a major port.

Has a little developed tourist product (which needs serious investment, things like this can help)

Well "Mandela" is better than "Nondela" that shit thats coming up in the Drakensberg, what lame radio advert.

Yeah its definitely the current FAPE.

Well "Mandela" is better than "Nondela" that shit thats coming up in the Drakensberg, what lame radio advert.

Nondela is the name of a mountain peak in the drakensburg and the peak has had that name for over 50 years.

and its not shit. i think its a bloody good development for a berg retreat.

^^I think its shity advertising made me dislike it, Im sure it is a great place, & I didnt know there was peak named "Nondela" I always thought they came up with that cheesy name, so they could put a Madiba impersopnater in their radio ad.

Any updates?

I agree with Mikey... get something original, really. Naming places after people is so incredibly 'All protocol observed, comrade.'

The Eastern Cape has a rich Xhosa heritage... why not just use that?

I agree with Mikey... get something original, really. Naming places after people is so incredibly 'All protocol observed, comrade.'

The Eastern Cape has a rich Xhosa heritage... why not just use that?

that would be promoting tribalisms :) bt on a serious not i think it would be great as long as the world hasn't got a click in it

personally i feel that the name makes the city far more marketable to foreign visitors. having grown up in PE, let me say that the city has come a long way in the past 10 years. the only part of PE that has not changed is that the streets are still clean and that crime has not spiraled out of control.
anyhoo, this project is currently stalled due to admin issues, the council still needs to approve some BS.

personally i feel that the name makes the city far more marketable to foreign visitors. having grown up in PE, let me say that the city has come a long way in the past 10 years. the only part of PE that has not changed is that the streets are still clean and that crime has not spiraled out of control.
anyhoo, this project is currently stalled due to admin issues, the council still needs to approve some BS.


Welcome Willayster, please give us more inofrmation in regards to the projects going on in PE and the renovated buildings.

personally i feel that the name makes the city far more marketable to foreign visitors. having grown up in PE, let me say that the city has come a long way in the past 10 years. the only part of PE that has not changed is that the streets are still clean and that crime has not spiraled out of control.
anyhoo, this project is currently stalled due to admin issues, the council still needs to approve some BS.

hasn't east london been stealing most of the fdi from pe

EL has been doing extremely well lately. but i would not go as far as saying it has been stealing FDI from PE. both cities have IDZ zones, but as far as investments in those specific areas, i think PE is getting more investment on a Rand for Rand basis. however EL is coming of a far smaller base and hence most new projects are considered significant.

Is this happening at all? It's been quite a while :)

Thanks Pule :)

Secret talks to revive Bay project
24 May 2010 - I-Net Bridge -


The Nelson Mandela Bay Municipality is holding top-secret meetings with developers of the beleaguered R10-billion Madiba Bay Leisure Park.

By Brian Hayward

The Nelson Mandela Bay Municipality is holding top-secret meetings with developers of the beleaguered R10-billion Madiba Bay Leisure Park, earmarked for 5400 hectares of land along Marine Drive, in the hopes of reviving the massive project.

Well-placed municipal sources have confirmed that although the lease for the land was controversially cancelled by municipal manager Graham Richards almost a year ago, shortly before he took special leave while accusations of mismanagement against him were investigated, acting municipal manager Elias Ntoba has resumed meetings with developers East Cape Showcase.

East Cape Showcase chief operating officer Johann Dreyer said plans for the project – which would take five to 10 years to be fully realised, and create 29000 temporary jobs and 6000 permanent positions – were back on track and the financial backers “are still interested”.

“We are talking about how to get the project back on track (with the municipality). That’s what everyone wants. We are talking about remedies,” he said, adding that meetings had also been held with Economic Development and Environmental Affairs MEC Mcebisi Jonas, who “has promised his full co-operation”.

The department last year turned down a R30-million environmental impact assessment (EIA) submitted over several years by East Cape Showcase for the project, in a move which Dreyer has insisted was a result of Richards’s interference, after he wrote a letter to the department stating the municipality did not support the initiative.

“We are resubmitting the documents for the EIA,” said Dreyer.

Confirmation of the talks comes despite an official denial by Ntoba that the plans were being revisited, through spokesman Kupido Baron.

But Baron did not divulge the nature of the meetings with East Cape Showcase, while questions to communications head Roland Williams regarding the status quo of the land’s lease went unanswered.

In June last year Richards was publicly reprimanded by senior ANC city officials for cancelling East Cape Showcase’s lease for the land – in effect scuppering the project – because he failed to consult the council on the issue beforehand.

He has subsequently come under fire in an audit of his actions as municipal manager, compiled by Minnaar Niehaus Attorneys and Ramathe Fivas Forensic and Investigative Accounting Services.

In a copy of the audit leaked to The Herald in February, Richards is accused of pressuring Dreyer to make a piece of prime land available to “personal friend” businessman Gavin Watson, and cancelling the lease for the land – which the audit claims he had no authority to do – when Dreyer refused.

He is also charged with rejecting an offer by Dreyer to build an R80-million by-pass road near the development, despite the fact that the council had resolved to accept the offer.

His “acrimonious” manner potentially destroyed the relationship between Dreyer and the municipality, the report claims.

Dreyer said he had also enlisted the support of the ANC. “It’s all about delivery and we have the full support of the ANC,” he said, adding the original funders were “still open to the plan”.

Dreyer is also busy enlisting the services of Israeli agricultural specialists to help with the planning of the park’s “agricultural village” which will see the construction of eco-friendly homes and communal gardens where residents will be encouraged to grow their own organic foods and sell any surplus back to the park.

First mooted in the early 2000s, the Madiba Bay Leisure Park will be one of the biggest developments for the city.

Thanks Lydon, I forgot about the thread.