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FK Zenit Sankt Petersburg

4x League:
1984, 2007, 2010, 2012

3x Cup:
1944, 1999, 2010

3x Supercup:
1984, 2007, 2010

1x UEFA Europa League:
2008

1x UEFA Super Cup:
2008





Gazprom Arena

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/6897/z7gn2.png

Name: Gazprom Arena
Club: FC Zenit
Scheduled inauguration: 2009
Capacity: 62,200 seats
City:St Petersburg,Russia
Stadium Info: Retractable Roof & Moveable Field

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/7207/z1tq2.png
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/2012/z2xp8.png
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/7577/z3nu6.png
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/8803/z4ca0.png

quite an improvement from their current stadium, where are they going to put this?

very nice one good location, retractable roof and pitch. Although having the pitch unprotected during a russian winter because there's a convention in the arena seems a bit ridiculous.

ver nice project

looks good.

it looks bigger than the stated capacity, more like 80000 seats, i wonder whether it will sell out for many games

Great stadium in a great city (too bad about the name though!). Any construction updates or schedules?

that's awesome!

It's a work of art :)

very nice, looks great!

another great way to spend the squandered billions of the russian people.

Yeah, it's really good!

wasn't there allready a thread about this stadium?
It's big, it's bad, it's Russian and I like it and it has a nice location!

Woooow thats what i call "stadium" :drool:

Judging from the grass bank surround (lower right pic), I'd say it was on the site of the current Communist-era Kirov Stadium, which is on the banks of the Neva.

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/6897/z7gn2.png

http://petersburgcity.com/city/photos/sport/facilities/kirov/petersburg.kirov1.jpg

This is the only picture I can find that was taken from outside the ground.

http://www.lindsayfincher.com/russia/heli-fingulf.jpg

I think the big, grassy banks around the perimeter are the giveaway.

It's definitely the same site - you can see the rowing lake in the bottom right rendering as well as this aerial of the Kirov:

http://www.srces.spb.org/dron/rs-images/spb-annotated/06.jpg

What was the capacity of Kirov stadium and when was it build?

Capacity: 72,000
Built: 1950

They did the same thing in Leipzig with the old Zentralstadion (which looked very similar), turning an old Eastern Bloc-style bowl site into a modern stadium. If you remember, Leipzig was one of last year's World Cup venues.

A stadium bowl in every sense of the word...

Wonderful from the outside at least. Is it just the render, or are those huge pillars actually going to be set inside the bowl? There seems to be a lot of pillars all around the inside of the stadium. For a new build of this magnitude, that's ridiculous.

another great way to spend the squandered billions of the russian people.

What a sick mentality! If german, french or italian build such stadiums it's nice but if it's the Russians you call it squandered money...

Wonderful from the outside at least. Is it just the render, or are those huge pillars actually going to be set inside the bowl? There seems to be a lot of pillars all around the inside of the stadium. For a new build of this magnitude, that's ridiculous.

i saw that as well, cantilever roofs have been around for a long time now but some of those pillars were massive, i hope to see a better image of the inside of the stadium to clear up the seating layout and supports etc

capacity will be 62.167

the other projects in the competition
http://www.fc-zenit.ru/info/page.phtml?id=304

^^ ^^
1)http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/1884/newcor2im8.jpg
2)http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/9534/newgmp2ax1.jpg
3)http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/3557/newgold1ey7.jpg
4)http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/2204/newmos2zr8.jpg

this design would've been my 2nd choice...
http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/2204/newmos2zr8.jpg
http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/1002/newmos3la7.jpg

^^ ^^
1)http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/1884/newcor2im8.jpg


There's always a token ridiculous one, isn't there?

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FK Zenit Sankt Petersburg

2x Champion:
1984, 2007

2x Cup Winner:
1944, 1999

1x UEFA Cup:
2008

1x UEFA SuperCup:
2008



Completion Date - 2009
Capacity - 62167
Designed by - Kisho Kurokawa Architect & Associates
Investment - $225 million

It will have a retractable roof - 200 by 90 meters - and will be held by metal masts.
The stadium will also have a membrane, which, when inflated with hot air, will melt ice and snow.
The field can also be moved outside the stadium, which will help keep the natural turf intact.
The stairs will also be retractable, which will make the stadium more like a constructor set.

The director of the company said that the stadium will be lit up by a million light bulbs,
which will make it "first purple, then red, any color you want".

The stadium will be completed in 2009. The stadium will have the capacity to hold
62167spectators. The construction cost is estimated to be $225 149 000.

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/6897/z7gn2.png
http://stadiony.net/projects/gazprom_arena/gazprom_arena14.jpg
http://stadiony.net/projects/gazprom_arena/gazprom_arena13.jpg
http://stadiony.net/projects/gazprom_arena/gazprom_arena12.jpg
http://stadiony.net/projects/gazprom_arena/gazprom_arena11.jpg
http://stadiony.net/projects/gazprom_arena/gazprom_arena15.jpg
http://stadiony.net/projects/gazprom_arena/gazprom_arena10.jpg
http://stadiony.net/projects/gazprom_arena/gazprom_arena09.jpg
http://stadiony.net/projects/gazprom_arena/gazprom_arena08.jpg
http://stadiony.net/projects/gazprom_arena/gazprom_arena07.jpg

Panoramic view:
http://gorzakaz.org/acts/JP3.jpg

http://gorzakaz.org/acts/JP2.jpg

http://gorzakaz.org/acts/JP4.jpg

http://gorzakaz.org/acts/JP1.jpg

:O
muy bonito!
me encanta!

Glad you like it!

Nice one!!

Currently they are demolishing the old stadium.

wasn´t their already a thread about this stadium? like it though from the inside it looks like http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=402731&page=4

Woww nice stadium and nice capacity, it reminds me of the Stade de France :)

Oh my God! That's truely great! :cheers:

in the up close panorama it looks so small.........
anyway....nice one.....

terrific!

Looks awesome.
I really like the surrounding.

wasn´t their already a thread about this stadium? like it though from the inside it looks like http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=402731&page=4

Yes, and it was quoted as 60,000 on there as well. This looks more like 80,000 (as the person who mentioned SdF would attest).

whoah!

WOW, that's an amazing stadium!!! And how are they building it for so cheap?!?!

Seems like there's a lot of large, modern stadiums going up in eastern Europe these days.

^^ Well labor is a little bit cheaper than in the US and so are construction materials. That and its only an estimate for now.

But all in all the price tag looks about right. Correct me if I am wrong.

$225 million? really?

The stadium seems more like 80,000

How much do stadiums usually cost?

Currently they are demolishing the old stadium.

the Kirov stadium was demolished already in October 2006..
the construction will begin in the summer this year.

here's a picture taken in October:
http://www.ljplus.ru/img/k/o/kotizm/DSC01058i.jpg

^^ Thanks for the update.

But uhh, why is there stuff on fire lol? o_O

Nice I love it , Great for Russia I am Happy for them :D

Really huge and modern complex

Great! Looking forward to see some construction pics.

nice overall design, i like!

Why dose russia need a soccer stadium? they should build more hockey arenas.

Why dose russia need a soccer stadium? they should build more hockey arenas.

you are speaking in European Terms, so it is FOOTBALL

Why dose russia need a soccer stadium?
Why ukranians need their heads, as nothing clever can come from them anyway?

^^Really mature comment their body. I can even ask a normal question when an uncivilized idiot chooses to respond. Then they complain about trolling on russian threads. Keep your people in the cages if they cant behave on the international forum.

P.S. Ukrainian heads got you in to space and made ussr a superpower remember that son!!!

Oh yeah, and Ukraine makes weapons and blablabla... Everyone knows your Ukrainian viewpoints by now, start making some constructive posts or don't post at all. We all know who's the immature one here don't we... Why do you think Russia needs football stadiums?? Because they play footbal there probably?! :ohno:

I really like the design, it looks about 80,000 though, will this be a new national stadium of Russia?

Why dose russia need a soccer stadium? they should build more hockey arenas.

Maybe because they're tearing down the old stadium and building this replacement?

Oh yeah, and Ukraine makes weapons and blablabla... Everyone knows your Ukrainian viewpoints by now, start making some constructive posts or don't post at all. We all know who's the immature one here don't we... Why do you think Russia needs football stadiums?? Because they play footbal there probably?! :ohno:

Really mature to include yourself into someone elses argument.

Would it be more logical to spend money on something that youre nation is good at for example hockey instead of a soccer stadium. Besides russia has good soccer stadiums as it is.

oh my god that's GORGEOUS.

Would it be more logical to spend money on something that youre nation is good at for example hockey instead of a soccer stadium.

Now I see. You can't stand the defeat of your miserable hockey team by Russia 8-1 at World champ. :lol: :cheers: But don't worry, we gonna kick your asses in football as well. I hope that will happen on EURO 08. And of course that will happen at any sport occasion... Ya man.. that's life, since u'r ukranian get use to be fucked up :tongue:

Ukrainian heads got you in to space!

Ha-ha ha.. :lol: :lol: Хохлы (ukranians) in space..:rofl: the funniest thing I've ever heard.. Sounds like "Planet of the Apes", but could be a great since fiction though..

^^First get some education kid and then you’ll see who invented first rocket and first sputnik. Second Ukraine never played hockey so for us its a new sport, but you don’t know this because since you live in the frozen cave in Asian and drink vodka and talk about how great russia is although its the biggest piece of shit in the world with one of the worst economic and no human rights, but that’s how Barbarians live. Name me one sport that you are better then Ukraine. You people suck at boxing, soccer, and many more, so you should get use to of being a fuck-up, but wait you already are.

jesus wept, a quiet thread about a very nice stadium project, and its ruined by complete idiots

if you've got nothing constructive to say, that involves the stadium, then fuck off

Keep it on topic please lads and keep country rivalries out of it!

Nice stadium. It looks a lot bigger than 60 odd thousand though.

Wow nice stadium!

I was at the old stadium this summer and I loved the location and it is sad it will be demolished, great to see another stadium comparable to Shakhtar and Lokomotiv in the region.

Could someone show on a map where the exact location of this new stadium is?

The new stadium will be on the same very spot as the old one.

Google Maps (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=Saint+Petersburg,+Russia&ie=UTF8&ll=59.971551,30.233688&spn=0.0192,0.057678&t=h&z=14&om=1)

according to stadionwelt it will have 300 vip boxes

but i can't see them?!?
http://gorzakaz.org/acts/JP4.jpg

I guess they do plan them, maybe it's just the lack of proper exposition in the renderings. (I know VIP boxes aren't bussiness ones, but people tend to mix up the names)

A quick question to the St. Petersburgers.

Do they still have thoroughbred horse racing in St. Petersburg? Apparently before 1917, St. Pete's had one of the most beautiful hippodromes in the world in one of the most gorgeous locations imaginable amongst great villas and palaces. I was wondering if the track was still there and if it was still in use today? Apparently it is where the biggest money in horse racing and thus world sports up to World War 1 as horse racing was the biggest pro sport by a large margin at the time. The purses were far greater than the USA, Britain or France had at the time. Of course due to the revolution it all finished.

The location was north across the Neva and beyond Petrowski Park, across the Malaya and Srednyaya rivers.

I know the Moscow one is still there, but was rebuilt after a fire in the 1950s.

Nice stadium :)

The cost isn't THAT cheap, its similar to the cost of stadiums in Ukraine. For instance Donetsks costs a little below $300 million, so it's normal.

I don't now much about horse races Bob but this stadium will be good venue for opening ceremony for 2020 Saint Petersburg Summer Olympics.

:cheers:

http://www.russiatoday.ru/sports/news/10497

Wow nice stadium, it really looks impressive .. Congratulations for the russian people, you will have a first class stadium.
Greetings from Mexico

http://www.fontanka.ru/2007/09/17/096/1.jpg

http://www.fontanka.ru/2007/09/17/096/2.jpg

http://www.fontanka.ru/2007/09/17/096/

:cheers:

5300/12000 piles! Almost half way!

any updates?

This is the best design for a stadium project.
The first time i saw it i thought it was more than 60000 the stadium is too good :)

This how i like architects dare to make audacious things.

For me each stadium must have its identity. Zenit st peter has its one !!

:applause:

Unfortunately the Architect died this year

sad. But this stadium make living his genius :)

magneficent stadium

The stadium looks very similar to toyota stadium. the difference was only the upper tiers. and the retractable roof also looks the same though with a different system

Same architect

January -

http://www.avant-spb.ru/data/fv/images/jan08/IMG_4303.jpg

http://www.avant-spb.ru/data/fv/images/jan08/IMG_4302.jpg

For live web camera check out the official website:
http://www.avant-spb.ru/fv.html

The stadium looks very similar to toyota stadium. the difference was only the upper tiers. and the retractable roof also looks the same though with a different system


:ohno: i don't share at all this view!! It has anything to do with toyota sorry!

The only thing which could remind me toyota is the roof and the colour of the seats. The rest is very different.

one question: is the roof is made in a rigid component or a frankfurt like structure ??

This stadium looks amazing from the outside! The landscaping and the design of the exterior are truly beautiful, one of my favourite stadiums under construction at the moment, majestic!

Camhttp://www.avant-spb.ru/fv.html

Didn't know they had such a strong team. They now eliminated OM, Villareal and Leverkusen (99%) in the UEFA Cup.
How are they doing in the Russian League at the moment? Did they ever play CL (or qualification)?

Didn't know they had such a strong team. They now eliminated OM, Villareal and Leverkusen (99%) in the UEFA Cup.
How are they doing in the Russian League at the moment? Did they ever play CL (or qualification)?

I think it doesn't mean much how Zenit is doing at the moment because Russian Premier League started its season just a few weeks ago. They played only 3 games!!

As for Champions league they haven't played in regular stages as far as I know. FYI Zenit's best performance in European club competitions was made when they ended up in semi finals in 0506 UEFA Cup, where they were defeated to Seveilla 1D and 1L(5-2 on aggregates)

I think it doesn't mean much how Zenit is doing at the moment because Russian Premier League started its season just a few weeks ago. They played only 3 games!!

As for Champions league they haven't played in regular stages as far as I know. FYI Zenit's best performance in European club competitions was made when they ended up in semi finals in 0506 UEFA Cup, where they were defeated to Seveilla 1D and 1L(5-2 on aggregates)

And they are last season's Russian champioins right? Doesn't that mean they're automatically qualified for next year's Champions League?

And they are last season's Russian champioins right? Doesn't that mean they're automatically qualified for next year's Champions League?

Yes, Zenit won Russian Premier League last season. So they've got a ticket going directly to group stages of 32 without going through qualifiers. You could say they saw the best season in league last year.

congrats to our russian and Zenit user :cheers:
any updates?

Your fans were excellent yesterday, they outsang the Rangers fans despite their being only 1/4 as many. You also didnt ruin our city afterwards either like they did. I salute you :cheers:

Your fans were excellent yesterday, they outsang the Rangers fans despite their being only 1/4 as many. You also didnt ruin our city afterwards either like they did. I salute you :cheers:

Yeh, Rangers were there in Numbers but man the support was dire I felt. At wolves, its a foregone conclusion mainly because it happens so many times that when you conceed you rally your troops! Rangers fans just sat down with thier heads in thier hands.

Your fans were excellent yesterday, they outsang the Rangers fans despite their being only 1/4 as many. You also didnt ruin our city afterwards either like they did. I salute you :cheers:

I noticed the same thing on the telly. The Russian fans were louder.

Great looking stadium by the way.

Nice looking blonde girl they kept showing on tv all match. Zenit fans seem far more attractive that the pimply overweight Rangers mob.

For sure Rangers fans are good but for those people who do not know russian football, Zenit fans are amongst the loudest most colourful bunches in Europe. If they get full house at new gazprom stadium with same fanset as petrovsky then atmosphere will be unbelievable!

Those masts make it look like a poor copy of the Millenium Dome -- and ugly.

At 62,000, would that be good enough for a World Cup semifinals?

Those masts make it look like a poor copy of the Millenium Dome -- and ugly.

At 62,000, would that be good enough for a World Cup semifinals?

not close to MD :) I don't think Kurokawa even bothered... that's just how he used to design stadiums and this one will be very original compared to toher sport venues worldwide.
The sole fact that closest comparison you got is a completely different MD proves it ;)

As for capacity, it depends on detailed regulations for each World Cup. It could and should be enough, but FIFA decides here...

Wonderful stadium and wonderful team :cheers:

Any updates? On wiki it says its supposed to be completed by December.

I can't wait for this stadium it looks terrific and from watching the UEFA Cup the Zenit fans really impressed me, imagine 60,000 of them that will be one hell of a racket and it could become one of the most intimidating stadia. This stadium really is a sign of a new power in European football I really hope they can get through their Champions League group because if they can do that then anything is possible from there. I tried to look for information on the Zenit page sadly they had nothing in their English section but did have some information in their Russian section sadly I don’t speak Russian so couldn't really give any information on the project for anyone who can the link is below maybe you could translate some of it.
http://www.fc-zenit.ru/info/page.phtml?id=340
I found this picture of the stadium that I haven't seen before I found it at World Stadiums
http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_menu/past_future/pictures/future_stadiums/st_peterburg_zenit2.jpg

Here's a couple of pics from the russian forum on ssc (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=393451&page=11) from a month ago....

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/32/vassiliy2005.24/0_158e2_f770b5a6_XL.jpg

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/35/vassiliy2005.24/0_158e0_6e179666_XL.jpg



There's a lot of info, pics and a webcam on this webpage ( only in russian :( ) www.avant-spb.ru (http://www.avant-spb.ru)


http://www.avant-spb.ru/sputnik.jpg

http://www.avant-spb.ru/tribuns.jpg

http://www.avant-spb.ru/Plan-2.jpg

http://www.avant-spb.ru/PANEL-11.jpg

http://www.avant-spb.ru/razrez.jpg


And a few pics of the runners-up (sorry for tiny pics) BTW winner was Kisho Kurokawa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kisho_Kurokawa)

1. OAO Lenniiproekt (Russia) & Braun & Schlockermann ARCADIS Planungsgesellschaft mbh (Germany)

http://www.avant-spb.ru/images/konkurs/new_gold_2.jpg http://www.avant-spb.ru/images/konkurs/new_gold_1.jpg

2. GUP-MNIIP Mosproekt (Russia)

http://www.avant-spb.ru/images/konkurs/new_mos_1.jpg http://www.avant-spb.ru/images/konkurs/new_mos_2.jpg

3. gmp (von Gerkan, Marg and Partner) International GmbH (Germany)

http://www.avant-spb.ru/images/konkurs/new_gmp_1.jpg http://www.avant-spb.ru/images/konkurs/new_gmp_2.jpg

4. Tomas Taveira - Projectos, Estudos Urbanos e Socio-Economicos S.A (Portugal)

http://www.avant-spb.ru/images/konkurs/new_cor_1.jpg http://www.avant-spb.ru/images/konkurs/new_cor_2.jpg

^^
Thanks for that update and post. It is clear that the project is behind do you know when the revised completion date will be?
Also from the look of one your pictures it looks like the stadium has been re-designed am I right?

Yeah. It really lokks like that they have changed some things
It has got now 3 tier.
The last 3rd one is very very small
Old
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/3690/gazpromspb2zc8.jpg

new
http://www.avant-spb.ru/tribuns.jpg


Roof
old
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/1425/gazpromspbjt0.jpg

new
http://www.avant-spb.ru/roof.jpg

How many suites will it have?

I prefer the old roof design to the new one. But more importantly I much prefer the inside to the new design and I liked the old one, this new design has the roof closed tightly over the spectators which should keep noise in better it also looks more intimidating.

^^
Thanks for that update and post. It is clear that the project is behind do you know when the revised completion date will be?
Also from the look of one your pictures it looks like the stadium has been re-designed am I right?


Don't know, here's what the website says (using google translate): :lol:


The cycle of the project is two years - six months laid on the design and 1.5 years for construction.
In accordance with the time schedule, currently are working on the device pile fields and reinforced concrete slabs rostverka.
Commissioning of the facility and delivery will take place in December 2008.
This means that the first match at the new stadium "Zenith" will be able to spring 2009, even before the opening of the new football season.


but this is a pic of july 2008

http://www.avant-spb.ru/data/fv/images/jul08/IMG_1159.jpg

So I'd guess the 2010 season is more likely :dunno:
Perhaps a russian forumer can tell us

As far as the redesign i dont know, but I'm with you that on some pics it looks different.

http://www.avant-spb.ru/tribuns.jpg

Woow...pretty intimidating!!!

This stadium will help Zenit to be a rising power

http://www.avant-spb.ru/tribuns.jpg

Woow...pretty intimidating!!!


Full of people will be like a pressure cooker, nice design and quality jump of the russian stadiums... :okay:

Every time I look at the new renders of the stadium I like it even more, but there is one thing that is bugging me there doesn't seem to be to many entrances to the stands it will be a bit of a problem in a stadium that has a capacity of 60,000.
Is there a club that has more potential to challenge the big boys from England, Italy and Spain for the biggest honours of European football.
Its a one team city and the city has a population of roughly 5million and the club is run by a company that has revenue of $75.8billion, so there is money and a strong support base.

great project and excellent presentation!!

To me the old one looks way better especially the roof and the integrity of the masts to the stadium. Too bad they even changed the shape of the trusses.

when will the construction start?

Does russia consider about hosting a World Cup in the future?

its already u/c
juts look at the pics

when wil it be complated then? :)

Amazing stadium!But IMO is too big to play league matches in Russia.Capacity for international matches is ok but not for club.Durning the Premier Liga matches you haven't a very big attendace.I think 40.000-45.000 will be ok for Zenit.Now your Stadium has 22.000, right?

when wil it be complated then? :)

somewhere 2010 :)

any photos?

Zenit=2nd Chealsea
Money is not everything

But the stadium will be very nice, maybe is a little too big:D

Zenit=2nd Chealsea
Money is not everything

But the stadium will be very nice, maybe is a little too big:D

Typical opinion of person, who know nothing about the club, about players, about coach, about fan-club... Just "2nd Chelsea", because the sponsor is Gazprom?
And why the stadium "is a little too big"? The whole Saint Petersburg (with population 4,6 mln.) support Zenit.

It will be interesting to see if the they will be able to keep the free-wheeling spending up over in Russia now the oil price is in a tail spin.

I guess there will a lot more Russian women available now too.

The way things are going in the west, I'm not sure if it is a case of us saving them or them saving us?!

Zenit=2nd Chealsea
Money is not everything

But the stadium will be very nice, maybe is a little too big:D

I too feel compelled to defend Zenit, they are a very well supported club who through no fault of their own are sponsored by gazprom as are shalke04 in fact the two clubs have very big comparisons-both are not historically famous teams of europe like a liverpool, real madrid etc but they have had recent success built on that and have always had a good fanbase ready to support them once they started to compete with the bigger clubs. I cannot see any comparison between zenit and chelsea. Chelsea were a top 12/15 uk side who sometimes had good seasons and then bad seasons but were not a consistent european powerhouse or top 5 side, then they were on the brink of extinction completely potless and along came abromovich. instantly they became a top four side and a force in europe thanks 100% to investment.
Zenits main reason for success last two years are homegrown players that cost nothing coming of age such as asharvin etc and a very good manager who got the best out of his players. Perhaps also other bigger teams did not respect zenit as a force at their cost and zenit won the uefa cup. The only 'expensive' import was timoshuck from shakhtar. I cannot see how they are a second chelsea???

Stadion value rose to 900 000 000 $, a new contractor is detected on December 5!

Can't they just change the project?
Do they need a moveable field?

Stadium construction "Zenith" will "Inzhtransstroy"

In the tender for the construction of a new stadium Petersburg Zenit ", which will be located on Krestovsky Island, won company Inzhtransstroy, owned by Oleg Deripaska. According to the publication of "Fontanka.ru, the contract price is 13 billion 22 million 282 thousand rubles at the initial price of 18 billion 603 million 260 thousand. Reducing the starting price was 30%.

Note that "Inzhtransstroy" now engaged in construction of several major projects in St. Petersburg, including the reconstruction of the runway airport "Pulkovo".

...Draft stay still sliding box and sliding remain beautiful!

Is the design definately set then? Also are there any construction pics or links to pages which show updates of the Russian Stadiums that are under construction?

berkshire royal

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=486660 forum Russian stadium boom

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=393451 - Russian forum Gazprom arena

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=565762 - new CSKA stadium

I liked the older design more.
This should be the stadium for the Russian NT because even though smaller then Moscow's it offers much more to the spectators.

Very nice. I've also prefered old design. The new stadium will be 3 times bigger as current Petrovskiy stadium. How many members have Zenit? Is such a high capacity reasonable or is this project too megalomaniacal?

Thinking it's the only big football team in a city as big as Leningrad, I think games vs. the Moscow/European Cups may have way bigger demands then this capacity.
S. Petersburg also has the Kirov stadium, 80.000 seats but in old communist style, a modern stadium can easily fill up easier then a commie one.

Kirov stadum does not any exist more, because this one is going to be built on the old stadiums ground

So this one is being built over the Kirosv, not over the Petrovski?

Yep
Zenit plays currently at the Petrovsky (21,750)
Kirov one has been demolished
http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=L-c9JkZCyQY

i liked the old one better, but it's still gonna be a terrific stadium...reminds me a bit of Estadio Azteca...

The new stadium is built at the site of legendary Kirov Stadium. In 2006, it was a farewell match, that's the way tickets from him:) http://cs52.vkontakte.ru/u1276830/1294429/x_f26f29d8.jpg
The new stadium should solve the problem of a shortage of seats for the fans, the problem is especially acute in the matches against historical rivals: Spartak, CSKA, Dynamo Moscow, Lokomotiv and matches at the European arena, and construction sdvizhnoy roof eliminates the problem of climate! The new stadium should be a good platform for cultural and sports activities, as is done in Europe.
On a more add that the whole city is waiting for this stadium, it will give an impetus to the development not only Zenit, but for the whole of Russian football in particular!

Yeah, the roof seems like a magical thing, the temperatures can be criminal thing for the players and the supporters.
Clearly sounds like nr. 1 E.E. Zone by far!
About the zone ( since S.P. is a big city ) which is in a better place Petrovski or the new one?

I do not know how to look entrances to the stadium by car, and drew a road on foot. The new stadium will be located in a very beautiful place - at the very end of Krestovsky Island, where there are ponds, attractions and ...
http://pic.ipicture.ru/uploads/090102/FXYROuAsS6.jpg

this is under construction???

any photos???:sly:

Recently re-construction!

New photos by slava_lomov:
http://cs570.vkontakte.ru/u1654052/69908736/x_71d4037f.jpg
http://cs570.vkontakte.ru/u1654052/69908736/x_0976f839.jpg
http://cs570.vkontakte.ru/u1654052/69908736/x_eef864ed.jpg
http://cs570.vkontakte.ru/u1654052/69908736/x_deb4c012.jpg
http://cs570.vkontakte.ru/u1654052/69908736/x_c16e903c.jpg
http://cs570.vkontakte.ru/u1654052/69908736/x_a36e67e7.jpg
http://cs570.vkontakte.ru/u1654052/69908736/x_b8c56ed6.jpg

Wow this is moveing really slowly when will we see some real progress? And also what is the status of other russian developments there doesn't seem to be much action with those either. I tried to find more info on this and other stadium projects in russia but I can't speak russian which makes it a bit problematic when you are on a page in russian and are trying to find info on a stadium.

News stadium Petersburg!

«Now we end up piling foundation, begun by the previous contractor. We will finish on February 25. A week later, we get all the documentation on the concrete part of the stands and begin to deploy equipment. From Moscow to arrive and be deployed concrete plant. Another our Moscow contractor will install the first 3 of the tower crane, all of them will be 7. Work is on schedule, and we must catch to date. At the installation of basic structures stadium will require a year and a half. Construction should be completed by the end of 2010 », - told Alexander Krasnitsky. !

In Moscow CSKA stadium is built, but the rate is small, it should define a new contractor!:
http://cs4142.vkontakte.ru/u1654052/69911249/x_4dc27c84.jpg
http://cs4142.vkontakte.ru/u1654052/69911249/x_f5f5fb12.jpg
http://cs4142.vkontakte.ru/u1654052/69911249/x_5f09e9b9.jpg
http://cs4142.vkontakte.ru/u1654052/69911249/x_59652497.jpg
http://cs4142.vkontakte.ru/u1654052/69911249/x_8810c206.jpg

At Moscow Spartak construction should begin this year (but it is very doubtful)

In Kazan, FC Rubin is going to build a new stadium to 50 000, will soon have to begin, the stadium will host Universialu 2013.

In Samara, there are also plans to build a new stadium.

In 2010 in Grozny (Chechnya), starting fresh 30000 Stadium:
http://cs109.vkontakte.ru/u1654052/9138255/x_6648c823.jpg
http://cs109.vkontakte.ru/u1654052/9138255/x_56a30a98.jpg

Ekaterinburg full swing reconstruction of the Central Stadium!
http://cs153.vkontakte.ru/u1654052/9138255/x_2ec9a028.jpg
http://cs153.vkontakte.ru/u1654052/9138255/x_6f73d27d.jpg
http://cs467.vkontakte.ru/u1654052/9138255/x_6dd8fb77.jpg
http://cs467.vkontakte.ru/u1654052/9138255/x_fa6d6e77.jpg

In Moscow, the spring is to begin reconstruction of the old stadium in Moscow - Dinmo! Capacity 30 000

+ Many small reconstructions and updates!

Thanks for the infos!

Any updates? thanks.

Latest photos ! Nothink much mave changed :(

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/3209/fotosait99.33/0_225cd_b95386a7_orig

http://s48.radikal.ru/i121/0903/27/e0a710be8c0c.jpg

http://s51.radikal.ru/i133/0903/ba/7190526e44a7.jpg

but they promiss again and again that stadium will be finnished in 2010 ..

Web cam : http://www.ingtransstroy.ru/cam.php?cam=1
http://www.ingtransstroy.ru/cam.php?cam=2

Latest photos ! Nothink much mave changed :(
but they promiss again and again that stadium will be finnished in 2010 ..

Web cam : http://www.ingtransstroy.ru/cam.php?cam=1
http://www.ingtransstroy.ru/cam.php?cam=2
2010 ... hmm guess not.

thx for the link to the webcam.

Do you think it hard for them to finish it until 2010? We South Koreans can do even within the year :D

Amazing webcams thanks Kayne

at least we can see the shape of the satdium

2 webcams from construction site:

http://ingtransstroy.ru/cam.php?cam=2
http://ingtransstroy.ru/webcam/inngtransstroy.ru/webcam/2/image.jpg

http://ingtransstroy.ru/cam.php?cam=2
http://ingtransstroy.ru/webcam/inngtransstroy.ru/webcam/1/image.jpg

new foto, tnx Slava_Lomov:

http://s41.radikal.ru/i091/0904/ed/4bc5c496c084.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)
Шестеро одного козлят.
http://i021.radikal.ru/0904/84/f0bf099377d3.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)
http://s60.radikal.ru/i168/0904/19/9d09ec5b509b.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)
http://s51.radikal.ru/i134/0904/12/54286423d844.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)
http://i067.radikal.ru/0904/b2/9446b90df0c8.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)
Пилон 7.
http://i031.radikal.ru/0904/6a/9ecffcdc077b.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)
Армируют пилон 8.
http://s60.radikal.ru/i169/0904/95/7ad7c3af697e.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)
Пилон 3
http://s58.radikal.ru/i162/0904/d9/275375ad6bd5.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)
http://s42.radikal.ru/i096/0904/c4/21caa6ef9527.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)
Я насчитал сегодня 7 башенных кранов.
http://s54.radikal.ru/i146/0904/b9/c801fda86852.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)

update foto by Slava_Lomov:
Начну выкладывать первомайские фотографии. Не судите строго за оперативность довыкладывания и за добавления коментариев.
1.http://s53.radikal.ru/i140/0905/a4/af7edaed8d74.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)
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17.http://i042.radikal.ru/0905/ca/24c2a8f536c4.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)
18.http://s55.radikal.ru/i147/0905/c5/a898a4779a27.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)
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20.http://s60.radikal.ru/i169/0905/50/a8cdf7ac547b.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)

very nice progress there on the webcam^^

I feel like the work in Zenit's stadium is on hold. Almost nothing has changed for the last one year.

Is this stadium really going to be finished??

Long working hours were sluggish pace, it was time for work and does have been suspended, but now everything is OK, work going in good pace, as evidenced by the web cameras!

http://s49.radikal.ru/i125/0905/77/ae7f1a37f9ce.gif (http://s49.radikal.ru/i125/0905/77/ae7f1a37f9ce.gif)
1. Пилон 6.
http://i022.radikal.ru/0905/62/ead17082b7f1.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)
2. Пилон 5.
http://s39.radikal.ru/i085/0905/6e/297fe82c8a04.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)
3. Ещё пилон 5.
http://s56.radikal.ru/i151/0905/e0/7b2769b3043d.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)
4. Выкатное поле.
http://s45.radikal.ru/i109/0905/d9/089e482e10ce.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)
5. Пилон 4.
http://s51.radikal.ru/i131/0905/ac/b938375ea9a4.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)
6. Сваи откапывают в зоне выкатного поля.
http://s45.radikal.ru/i110/0905/b6/e66d15289f19.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)
7. Панорама.
http://s52.radikal.ru/i135/0905/ce/4f49a18f3242.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)

I just found out on Russia Today that Metallica will be performing at the new Zenit Arena in 2010. Cool!:cheers:

http://rt.tv/Sport/2009-04-23/Metallica_to_rock_Zenit_s_new_stadium_.html/print?fullstory

in 2010? Haha... That will never happen because it can never be finished until then. Look at the progress at Gazprom Arena

2010 haha lol

I guess more like 2012, maybe 2013 right

You just don't imagine how fast something can be built in Russia if the governments wants it. (europeans probably thought of kgb, Siberia and Gulag)

You just don't imagine how fast something can be built in Russia if the governments wants it. (europeans probably thought of kgb, Siberia and Gulag)

But it's technicaly impossible. The stadium will be ready in 2011 if they will really hurry up. It's not about political decision but reality.

No offense but this stadium is kind of ugly :puke:

De gustibus et coloribus non disputandum est, but ^^ no offense http://blauwzwartforum.be/images/smilies/icon_crazy.gif

I loved the design from the moment I first laid eyes on it and think it is one of the greatest stadiums under construction worldwide and depending on the final result, might even turn out to be one of my favourite stadiums alltogether.

I like it too. that bowl shape is a bit weird but it's growing on me.

No offence, but it's mostly polish people and the ukranians who always find our new projects ugly :puke::puke::puke:

Because they are, and the football pitches in Russia areant grass, its just pure mud. Ukrainians have good quality soil and the pithches are a thousand times better.

stop!!!
Its about the stadium!!!!!!

NMAISTER007
Get a life, and stop this poor provocations. Spread your blind hate somewhere else, not here.

A lot of progress in photos from Russian Sub-Forum:

http://i42.tinypic.com/34hdn9j.jpg

http://i41.tinypic.com/2h8a8om.jpg

http://i39.tinypic.com/2wp5kl3.jpg

http://i42.tinypic.com/29yo86b.jpg

http://i41.tinypic.com/2i91ips.jpg

http://i41.tinypic.com/2iqie0.jpg

And updated picture from Google Earth:

http://spb-projects.ru/forum/files/stadium_210.jpg

wow
now they are really fast

http://10f.ru/data/images/a0bc93e1b1c951d4522ba2ba93a1e5f4289379_standart.jpg

http://10f.ru/data/images/d2edecb7af3dc86b6021772ab31a1b65289380_standart.jpg

http://10f.ru/data/images/3a98a6fa6a13f9c560b861067f00ae77289381_standart.jpg

http://10f.ru/data/images/0a0d4689b4018f791e18857a4bf67b56289382_standart.jpg

http://10f.ru/data/images/06379a58c90b74254a8205df32a0a838289384_standart.jpg

http://10f.ru/data/images/ca3f16e5a8c20342eb37cb9b876b8707289402_standart.jpg

http://10f.ru/data/images/282aec06545ca46d9eabdd160eb9a4ee289407_standart.jpg

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/3310/wickedstuff.1/0_700e_f118d681_orig

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/3109/wickedstuff.1/0_700c_7e0fab53_orig

http://10f.ru/data/images/ba4fd5c7112f13548fe0dfe529e2e744289394_full.jpg

how many suites will it have?

One of my babies this one:cheers:

new fotos by Slava_Lomov:
http://s39.radikal.ru/i086/0906/2a/f36d9b20dad0.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)
http://s57.radikal.ru/i156/0906/20/754eaf912e37.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)
http://s55.radikal.ru/i148/0906/1e/678cb3bb38da.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)
http://s48.radikal.ru/i122/0906/55/9f7426099beb.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)
http://i051.radikal.ru/0906/b7/4aac1d609739.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)

Did they modify the original Kurokawa design? The roof looks different on several of the renderings posted in one of the previous posts.

No offense but this stadium is kind of ugly :puke:

That's one of the most beautiful project in the world, quite expensive.
Moreover, it's created not by russian, but japanese architect...

Did they modify the original Kurokawa design? The roof looks different on several of the renderings posted in one of the previous posts.

As I know everything remains the same. I read some interview recently, they're gonna keep the design but make it less expensive thru the using of cheaper materials...
They've also recently solved all the problems with company, that builds this arena. Now everything is gonna go faster.

Wow nice stadium.. one of the best in the world no doubt about it..
greetings from Mexico... :D

i like this stadium!! but these little spiky things that hold the roof are ugly

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/8939/gpii22.th.jpg (http://img218.imageshack.us/i/gpii22.jpg/)
http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/9986/gpii52.th.jpg (http://img200.imageshack.us/i/gpii52.jpg/)

The original design was much better. It's a pity that they discarded it and chose this terrible design by a Japanese architect.

http://pic.fc-zenit.ru/images/gallery/20090616/01.jpg
http://pic.fc-zenit.ru/images/gallery/20090616/02.jpg
http://pic.fc-zenit.ru/images/gallery/20090616/03.jpg
http://pic.fc-zenit.ru/images/gallery/20090616/04.jpg
http://pic.fc-zenit.ru/images/gallery/20090616/05.jpg
http://pic.fc-zenit.ru/images/gallery/20090616/13.jpg
http://pic.fc-zenit.ru/images/gallery/20090616/14.jpg
http://pic.fc-zenit.ru/images/gallery/20090616/15.jpg
http://pic.fc-zenit.ru/images/gallery/20090616/16.jpg
http://pic.fc-zenit.ru/images/gallery/20090616/17.jpg
http://pic.fc-zenit.ru/images/gallery/20090616/26.jpg
http://pic.fc-zenit.ru/images/gallery/20090616/27.jpg
http://pic.fc-zenit.ru/images/gallery/20090616/30.jpg
http://pic.fc-zenit.ru/images/gallery/20090616/32.jpg
http://pic.fc-zenit.ru/images/gallery/20090616/33.jpg

Some time ago fans made a patch (http://www.fifachamp.ru/eng/rpl09/) to FIFA 09, where you can play on new Zenit Stadium ))

http://pic.ipicture.ru/uploads/080510/thumbs/zOBQwxydum.png (http://ipicture.ru/Gallery/Viewfull/1759841.html)http://pic.ipicture.ru/uploads/080510/thumbs/uj0xNYvc8d.png (http://ipicture.ru/Gallery/Viewfull/1759843.html)http://pic.ipicture.ru/uploads/080510/thumbs/VxR1GgTnSQ.png (http://ipicture.ru/Gallery/Viewfull/1759845.html)

The same with new Spartak (http://www.fifachamp.ru/forum/downloads.php?do=file&id=14) and CSKA (http://www.fifachamp.ru/forum/downloads.php?do=file&id=12) stadiums)

Some time ago fans made a patch (http://www.fifachamp.ru/eng/rpl09/) to FIFA 09, where you can play on new Zenit Stadium ))

http://pic.ipicture.ru/uploads/080510/thumbs/zOBQwxydum.png (http://ipicture.ru/Gallery/Viewfull/1759841.html)http://pic.ipicture.ru/uploads/080510/thumbs/uj0xNYvc8d.png (http://ipicture.ru/Gallery/Viewfull/1759843.html)http://pic.ipicture.ru/uploads/080510/thumbs/VxR1GgTnSQ.png (http://ipicture.ru/Gallery/Viewfull/1759845.html)

The same with new Spartak (http://www.fifachamp.ru/forum/downloads.php?do=file&id=14) and CSKA (http://www.fifachamp.ru/forum/downloads.php?do=file&id=12) stadiums)

^^ But its probably just for the russian version of FIFA 09, not the english one.

i'm judging now based on models for a game, but i'm a bit surprised that the stand are that straight and not rounded. the stadium bowl is round, why not have curved stands too and improve the viewing angles?

http://i067.radikal.ru/0907/26/26b1819e009e.jpg

from here (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=40011806&postcount=772)

About 32.508% completed?

i'm judging now based on models for a game, but i'm a bit surprised that the stand are that straight and not rounded. the stadium bowl is round, why not have curved stands too and improve the viewing angles?

This whole idea of curved stands providing better viewing angles is a bit of a myth. We all have necks that turn and eyes that follow movement so, assuming that we haven't suffered a neck injury, we have no difficulty following the action in rectangular stadiums.

However, if a football stadium has curved stands, it is inevitable that, other than in the corners, fans will be further away from the pitch than if the stands are in a rectangular configuration. And that can never be a good thing.

P.S. You'll find a great many other modern football stadia around the world that are bowl shaped on the outside but with a rectangular configuration of stands on the inside. Wembley and Emirates for starters; the new White Hart Lane soon to follow. And that's just in London.

About 32.508% completed?

Infact it's 32.504% :nuts::lol:

They need to hurry up with that .004% otherwise Carrerra will kick off.

http://h.imagehost.org/0224/x_9b70bcb8.jpg

http://h.imagehost.org/0318/Zenit_11.jpg
http://h.imagehost.org/0962/Zenit-2_11.jpg

New Fhotos:

http://cs568.vkontakte.ru/u23086584/69908736/x_dfe786f6.jpg

http://cs568.vkontakte.ru/u23086584/69908736/x_fb08805d.jpg

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http://cs568.vkontakte.ru/u23086584/69908736/x_f7b547d4.jpg

P.S. You'll find a great many other modern football stadia around the world that are bowl shaped on the outside but with a rectangular configuration of stands on the inside. Wembley and Emirates for starters; the new White Hart Lane soon to follow. And that's just in London.

Wembley has curved stands all the way. And it is so much better imho! Emirates has the "rectangular" 4 stands connected by curved stands, but the seats are relatively far away from the pitch. Compare this to Camp Nou which is also curved all the way, but where the seats are closer to the pitch (especially in the corners where the space in Camp Nou is crappy) then in the Emirates stadium.

I still favour slightly curved stands since it gives a stadium imho much more atmosphere to be in. And yes, I have been to Camp Nou, Bernabeu, Westfalenstadion, Nordbank Arena Hamburg, San Siro and of course De Kuip in Rotterdam. Which is the standard since 1936 for curved football stadium imho :)

If this stadium is finished with the quality that the Donbass Arena was then I think this stadium will be the best 50-70,000 seater stadium in Europe and quite possibly the world.
I like the looks of the design but there are only a few pics out there so I am visualising but if it ends up as good as I think then this stadium will be brilliant.

Wembley has curved stands all the way. And it is so much better imho! Emirates has the "rectangular" 4 stands connected by curved stands, but the seats are relatively far away from the pitch. Compare this to Camp Nou which is also curved all the way, but where the seats are closer to the pitch (especially in the corners where the space in Camp Nou is crappy) then in the Emirates stadium.

I still favour slightly curved stands since it gives a stadium imho much more atmosphere to be in. And yes, I have been to Camp Nou, Bernabeu, Westfalenstadion, Nordbank Arena Hamburg, San Siro and of course De Kuip in Rotterdam. Which is the standard since 1936 for curved football stadium imho :)

If you were to take, as your starting point, the minimum distance that seats can be to the pitch in the corner of the stadium and if you then built two stadiums - one with a rectangular configuration and another with curved stands - then the seats at the rectangular stadium would, on average, be closer to the pitch than at the curved stadium. No getting away from it.

The fact that the seats at the Emirates are further away from the stands than at the Camp Nou has nothing to do with the configuration. It's just that that gap was what Arsenal decided upon, for some bizarre reason.

As to curved stands having a superior atmosphere, I couldn't disagree more. I'd choose a tight stadium with stands close to and parallel to the pitch over a bowl shaped interior every time.

If this stadium is finished with the quality that the Donbass Arena was then I think this stadium will be the best 50-70,000 seater stadium in Europe and quite possibly the world.
I like the looks of the design but there are only a few pics out there so I am visualising but if it ends up as good as I think then this stadium will be brilliant.

The Donbass-Arena is and will be better, even though the capacity is smaller but still it doesn't matter.

But this one will have a retraceable roof and moveable pitch.

The Donbass-Arena is and will be better, even though the capacity is smaller but still it doesn't matter.

First, let's wait until it will be build, all equipment will be installed, all works will be done around, and then you can say all that you want, it's YOUR opinion, just don't say for "all".
Second, your trollism before already showed that you are not those person who can be trusted. You are not objective, very "simply" said.
Third, are you an ingeneer, did you read all documentation and saw all drawings, calculations, to say which stadium is "better"? Sliding roof, moving field, bigger capacity... i think this is powerful arguments.
Fourth, BOTH stadiums will be great and there is NO need to find a "champion".

@poxuy
how many suites will it have?

First, let's wait until it will be build, all equipment will be installed, all works will be done around, and then you can say all that you want, it's YOUR opinion, just don't say for "all".
Second, your trollism before already showed that you are not those person who can be trusted. You are not objective, very "simply" said.
Third, are you an ingeneer, did you read all documentation and saw all drawings, calculations, to say which stadium is "better"? Sliding roof, moving field, bigger capacity... i think this is powerful arguments.
Fourth, BOTH stadiums will be great and there is NO need to find a "champion".

The Donbass-Arena will be among the best stadiums in Europe, possibly even in the world. I didn't hear that this stadium will be an elite class stadium :ohno: While the Donbass-Arena will be.

Come on.
Just you don't hear or read anything about this stadium in the media doesn't mean its not better.
Currently this one is better, but as poxuy already wrote it we have to wait untill its finished. We have to see the quality of the materials and working.
BTW whole Universium knows and says that the Türk Telekom Arena with its 157 suites, 2 lounges, 1 big and 12 small restaurants and roof it will be the best stadium of all time :D

^^ Fascinating :D

The Donbass-Arena is and will be better, even though the capacity is smaller but still it doesn't matter.

Well my reasoning goes as follows. Firstly IF this stadium was finished (i.e. seats, concourses, suites, jumbotorns etc.) we're finished to the same standard that they we're at the Donbass then I would prefer this stadium. I prefer the design of the roof and the interior design, don't get me wrong I do like the Donbass roof but this one is more striking and the interior is more original and compact which is very hard to do with a 60,000+ stadium. I do prefer the exterior of the Donbass by a long way but that isn't enough to make it a better stadium in my eyes, the heart of a stadium is the interior and this stadium has a better interior.

But like other have said we will see it might be that the jumbotron has poor quality pictures and is small, they have bucket seats installed and the concourses are non existant.

The Donbass-Arena is and will be better, even though the capacity is smaller but still it doesn't matter.

Lol, only the equippment and technology installed inside the Gazprom arena is worth over 100 million euro ;)

http://www.forbes.com/feeds/afx/2008/06/24/afx5145841.html

the renders from poxy are definitly awsome

At this moment there are only 3 stadiums with retractable roof and movable field:

"Gelredome" in Arnhem, Netherlands. It was built in 1998.
"Veltins-Arena" in Gelsenkirchen, Germany. Built in 2001.
"University of Phoenix Stadium" in Glendale, USA. Built in 2006.

Zenit stadium will be 4th, which makes it very unique.
@poxuy
how many suites will it have?

don't know:dunno:

http://a.imagehost.org/0768/x_d2534a58.jpg

At this moment there are only 3 stadiums with retractable roof and movable field:

"Gelredome" in Arnhem, Netherlands. It was built in 1998.
"Veltins-Arena" in Gelsenkirchen, Germany. Built in 2001.
"University of Phoenix Stadium" in Glendale, USA. Built in 2006.

Zenit stadium will be 4th, which makes it very unique.


don't know:dunno:

Sorry but you missed sapporo dome in Japan, and technically Millennium is also on that list although the moveable field is in sections not just one section like the others mentioned.

The wimbledon stadium also has a retractable roof, also some other stadiums have retractable roofs, not just those 5.

But he listed stadiums with: with retractable roof and movable field:
:)

Well Im just saying...

Sorry but you missed sapporo dome in Japan, and technically Millennium is also on that list although the moveable field is in sections not just one section like the others mentioned.
fixed it for you:
At this moment there are only 3 stadiums with retractable roof and movable field:

NMAISTER007, you forgot to post photo of Kiev stadium interior here, because it's still not in all threads.

Why would I post it here?

http://a.imagehost.org/0768/x_d2534a58.jpg

I'm loving that render. :cheers: I'm sure this beauty will prove to be just as good as the Dumbass-Arena. ;)

I'm loving that render. :cheers: I'm sure this beauty will prove to be just as good as the Dumbass-Arena. ;)

Shut up, stop calling it that, its the Donbass-Arena smart one.

Shut up, stop calling it that, its the Donbass-Arena smart one.

:lol::lol: You're so predictable. :lol::lol:

I like my dumbass arena :):)

This is the Spazprom Arena :)

Is that the final seat colours as shown in the render on this page posted by Poxuy?
I love the fact this stadium has only one tier

Is that the final seat colours as shown in the render on this page posted by Poxuy?
I love the fact this stadium has only one tier

Actually if you look closely then you will see that this stadium actually has 2 large tiers.

I'm impressed with the roof but that's it. The Donbass Arena is so much more attractive. This suffers from the same syndrome as the Cowboys stadium - too many little sections. I suppose it's 3 basic tiers, but the lower 2 are split into 2 and 3 sections respectively. Sure access in and out will be great, but it just looks messy IMO.

new fhoto: http://www.fc-zenit.ru/info/viewPhoto.phtml?gallery=498&photo=01&lng=ru

This is the Spazprom Arena :)

The stadium yet has no name, but will be assured what to refer to Gazprom Arena, although this is not a fact, is a population survey in order to learn about the preferences of Petersburgers the name the new stadium, there appeared such names as Zenit Arena, Neva arena, stadium of St. Peter and others....

This is the Spazprom Arena :)

OMG not in this thread!

Guys, everyone. DON'T FEED the troll nmaister, please! 6 messages on last page are ENOUGH.

new fhoto: http://www.fc-zenit.ru/info/viewPhoto.phtml?gallery=498&photo=01&lng=ru

Nice.

As already known, yesterday they completed "zero level", so in august they will begin to construct stadium bowl.

Oh will you just stop acting so naive poxuy, no one else is arguing except you.

come on guys
just ignore the other use
its just about the stadium

17.08.09

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from here (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=41524020&postcount=801)

thanks! damn, awesome update! the progress isn't even that bad heh.

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Very slow progress...

^^ ***head... WTF do you how much progress there is! There are hundreds of builders busy there!

Very slow progress...

with all due respect, Your comment denotes ignorance about construction techniques as well as timing.
Let me explain you that the foundations take way more time than any part of the stadium simply because it will hold the rest of the structure.
Right now it will not rise as "soon" as "you" want simply because it takes time.
I hope this explanation help you understand that stadiums are not like making origami..

with all due respect, Your comment denotes ignorance about construction techniques as well as timing.
Let me explain you that the foundations take way more time than any part of the stadium simply because it will hold the rest of the structure.
Right now it will not rise as "soon" as "you" want simply because it takes time.
I hope this explanation help you understand that stadiums are not like making origami..

I'm sorry, that's what threw me off! I thought it was exactly like the making of origami.

I'm sorry, that's what threw me off! I thought it was exactly like the making of origami.

Will be a lesson for you. Be attentievly next time.

Very slow progress...

I agree, as the matter of fact, i have no idea on what they are doing :ohno: Seriously, the construction of this stadium is very confusing, every other stadium that I saw under construction was not just faster, but even better.

i have no idea on what they are doing

well, you said that...

IMo its really fast.
Start was very slow, because they had problems, but "real" construction started this year (?)

This is going to be one massive stadium.

Persons who say that it's "slow" don't take many important things in mind.
On "ground level" there were processed about 600,000 cubic metre of a ground, more than 11,000 piles, on depth 25 - 27 metres, in diameter of 520 millimetres are finished; + 600 piles in diameter of 1,5 metres. Works in a power centre zone are conducted, works on a mooring are finished: deepening of a bottom for a ship canal and a covering of the top layer of a mooring modular ferro-concrete plates and asphalt.
For such terms, on such ground, in such widths, similar constructions still were never under construction. The area of all stadium constructions, not including a field, is about 157,000 sq. m.
In June 2008, Gazprom signed a 100 mln. contract with Imtech for construction of basic technical infrastructure - all solutions in the fields of heating, climate control, electrical engineering, instrumentation, security, fire prevention, fire detection, extinguishing solutions...

nmaister have no idea about.. let's say.. anything, especially in stadium constructure, just like another who thought that it's like origami.

+ we don't have deadlines of UEFA comissions)

And this is not a competition "who is faster", when the most important things are quality and safety.

^^^^
Why are you guys getting pissed just because of one word "slow". I agree with Veleshomais as well , that the progress is slow but i don't see what could be so offending in his statement. You guys have been saying the same thing in our Ukrainian stadiums threads too...and we respected your opinions..so what is the problem ??

Anyway i think this stadium looks very good and will be beautiful once done. Congratulations St-Petersburg :cheers:

The foundation works in pics make me feel like they are building 80K or 90K stadia. It's incredibly huge for 60Ks stadium.

Ignore VelesHomais, by his posting history, I've learned he shouldn't be taken seriously.

Progress is fine, St Petersburg is in no hurry to get the stadium completed by some looming deadline.

The foundation works in pics make me feel like they are building 80K or 90K stadia. It's incredibly huge for 60Ks stadium.

maybe because of the pitch is moveable?

What's the total price tag of this stadium ?

I'm sorry to have made a comment on the last page, I won't comment here anymore :crazy: Good luck with the stadium though.

P.S. This is the fastest construction the world has seen!

I'm sorry to have made a comment on the last page, I won't comment here anymore :crazy: Good luck with the stadium though.

P.S. This is the fastest construction the world has seen!

slow construction= quality building

Ukrainian stadiums will collapse during 2012 because of fast cheap construction.

slow construction= quality building

Ukrainian stadiums will collapse during 2012 because of fast cheap ass construction.

Are you joking?? Donbass Arena is cheap construction in your opinion?? Could you please explain?

Are you joking?? Donbass Arena is cheap construction in your opinion?? Could you please explain?

Donbass is not bad but Gazprom will be much better.

Look at their Kharkiv stadium. Cheap steel, cheap paint and other materials :ohno:

What's the total price tag of this stadium ?

Don't be so offensive. It's always good when new stadiums are building, especialy in Ukraine in such hard economic situation.

Cost on august 2008: 23,713,560,000 roubles. Dollar was ~24 at that time, so it's about 988,065,000 $

It's planned to allocate 10-12 billions of roubles in 2009.

When will the 2 webcams be back up again?

they are down since 26.08.

Donbass is not bad but Gazprom will be much better.

Look at their Kharkiv stadium. Cheap steel, cheap paint and other materials :ohno:

Are you kidding me? Ukraine produces one of the best steel in the world, there is nothing cheap about any of the stadiums in Ukraine that are being built. The Donbass Arena is "Not bad", its excellent, everything in the Donbass Arena is as good and as modern as any other elite stadiums in eastern europe. The Donbass Arena is now one of the best stadiums in Europe.

The Donbass Arena is now one of the best stadiums in Europe.

One of the best in the world i would say.

Gazprom will also be really cool, but ill judge it when it is complete!