Marek.kvackaj
February 22nd, 2007, 01:03 PM
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I cant see that pic is too small.. what si that pic about?
I cant see that pic is too small.. what si that pic about?
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View Full Version : [H] Hungarian Motorways • Magyar Autópályák Marek.kvackaj February 22nd, 2007, 01:03 PM http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/9239/hvgna4.jpg (http://imageshack.us) I cant see that pic is too small.. what si that pic about? Marek.kvackaj February 22nd, 2007, 01:03 PM http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/9239/hvgna4.jpg (http://imageshack.us) I cant see that pic is too small.. what si that pic about? Qtya February 22nd, 2007, 01:14 PM I figured it could be a problem. The original picture is the almost unusuable... Highway fees in Euros/one year valid vignette: Hungary: 138€ Austria: 73€ Bulgaria: 65€ Czech Republic: 32€ Slovakia: 29€ Switzerland: 27€ Romania: 21€ (If I see them right.) The other one show the countries and prices (in eurocents)where Toll gates are used. Spain: 8,0 eurocents/km France: 7,8 eurocents/km Portugal: 5,8 eurocents/km Italy: 5,7 eurocents/km Croatia: 5,3 eurocents/km Slovenia: 5,0 eurocents/km (If I see them right.) Qtya February 22nd, 2007, 01:14 PM I figured it could be a problem. The original picture is the almost unusuable... Highway fees in Euros/one year valid vignette: Hungary: 138€ Austria: 73€ Bulgaria: 65€ Czech Republic: 32€ Slovakia: 29€ Switzerland: 27€ Romania: 21€ (If I see them right.) The other one show the countries and prices (in eurocents)where Toll gates are used. Spain: 8,0 eurocents/km France: 7,8 eurocents/km Portugal: 5,8 eurocents/km Italy: 5,7 eurocents/km Croatia: 5,3 eurocents/km Slovenia: 5,0 eurocents/km (If I see them right.) kokpit February 22nd, 2007, 08:43 PM This is true, but in case of small countries like Hungary the balance between the capital and the other regions could be desperately moved in favor of the capital. And without a proper regional alliance these regions can't really represent their interests. Naturally in an economy/system that functions well this wouldn't be a problem, but where the governments main supporters/voters are in the capital city, it is. But you live in Budapest so what's the problem. :) If anybody from regions wants to, he can move there as well. I see quite big advantage with big populous Budapest in the middle of the country, it's probably economically better than smaller cities hundreds kilometres far away from each other. kokpit February 22nd, 2007, 08:43 PM This is true, but in case of small countries like Hungary the balance between the capital and the other regions could be desperately moved in favor of the capital. And without a proper regional alliance these regions can't really represent their interests. Naturally in an economy/system that functions well this wouldn't be a problem, but where the governments main supporters/voters are in the capital city, it is. But you live in Budapest so what's the problem. :) If anybody from regions wants to, he can move there as well. I see quite big advantage with big populous Budapest in the middle of the country, it's probably economically better than smaller cities hundreds kilometres far away from each other. Ataman February 23rd, 2007, 01:56 AM In the long term, decentralized economy works best. It is a bit like comparing Germany and Switzerland with Britain and France. One of the reasons Czech economy is stronger than ours is that we have little else other than Budapest, while you have Brno and Ostrava. So geographically, the wealth distribution is more even there. -Ataman Ataman February 23rd, 2007, 01:56 AM In the long term, decentralized economy works best. It is a bit like comparing Germany and Switzerland with Britain and France. One of the reasons Czech economy is stronger than ours is that we have little else other than Budapest, while you have Brno and Ostrava. So geographically, the wealth distribution is more even there. -Ataman Bikes March 6th, 2007, 02:52 PM This is true, but in case of small countries like Hungary the balance between the capital and the other regions could be desperately moved in favor of the capital. And without a proper regional alliance these regions can't really represent their interests. Naturally in an economy/system that functions well this wouldn't be a problem, but where the governments main supporters/voters are in the capital city, it is. This is true, and basically this thread is kind of dedicated to this problem. A better infrastructure reaching important cities like Debrecen is inevitable. Connecting the cities via high-speed motorways is a way to speed to up the economy. Btw, what do you think, will the new part of M0 be built on time? They were lucky with the weather, hopefully it continues to be so, but if they wont be able to finish it, thats big trouble. Bikes March 6th, 2007, 02:52 PM This is true, but in case of small countries like Hungary the balance between the capital and the other regions could be desperately moved in favor of the capital. And without a proper regional alliance these regions can't really represent their interests. Naturally in an economy/system that functions well this wouldn't be a problem, but where the governments main supporters/voters are in the capital city, it is. This is true, and basically this thread is kind of dedicated to this problem. A better infrastructure reaching important cities like Debrecen is inevitable. Connecting the cities via high-speed motorways is a way to speed to up the economy. Btw, what do you think, will the new part of M0 be built on time? They were lucky with the weather, hopefully it continues to be so, but if they wont be able to finish it, thats big trouble. Qtya March 7th, 2007, 10:47 AM Btw, what do you think, will the new part of M0 be built on time? They were lucky with the weather, hopefully it continues to be so, but if they wont be able to finish it, thats big trouble. You know last year, around october works on the eastern sector stopped for nearly two months, because of some mistakes in the Environmental authorization... You might remember the "huge" mistake. There were more intersections displayed in the final authorization instead of the the actual quantity that is being built... During the authorization process because of ENVIRONMENTAL REASONS the National Freeway Developer Inc. (Na Rt) removed one intersection from the program but forgot to erase it from the final paperwork... :bash: So they had to carry through the whole process again! Yeah, You are right they were lucky with the weather, so I hope they earned enough time to catch up. The northern sector with the new bridge is on or ahead of schedule. Qtya March 7th, 2007, 10:47 AM Btw, what do you think, will the new part of M0 be built on time? They were lucky with the weather, hopefully it continues to be so, but if they wont be able to finish it, thats big trouble. You know last year, around october works on the eastern sector stopped for nearly two months, because of some mistakes in the Environmental authorization... You might remember the "huge" mistake. There were more intersections displayed in the final authorization instead of the the actual quantity that is being built... During the authorization process because of ENVIRONMENTAL REASONS the National Freeway Developer Inc. (Na Rt) removed one intersection from the program but forgot to erase it from the final paperwork... :bash: So they had to carry through the whole process again! Yeah, You are right they were lucky with the weather, so I hope they earned enough time to catch up. The northern sector with the new bridge is on or ahead of schedule. Bikes March 7th, 2007, 02:16 PM Oh dear, didnt know about this. They were all claiming that the Greens are responsible for the delay. Anyways, good news, GO M0!! Bikes March 7th, 2007, 02:16 PM Oh dear, didnt know about this. They were all claiming that the Greens are responsible for the delay. Anyways, good news, GO M0!! Qtya March 7th, 2007, 02:52 PM Oh dear, didnt know about this. They were all claiming that the Greens are responsible for the delay. Anyways, good news, GO M0!! You probably were abroad till yesterday, because itt was all around the news. m)) I was out for some time too, but the Index Portal , and mno online focused pretty much attention to this "little" accident. Sometimes the Greens are right but on the oder side they can be a hell of a pain in the ass... Qtya March 7th, 2007, 02:52 PM Oh dear, didnt know about this. They were all claiming that the Greens are responsible for the delay. Anyways, good news, GO M0!! You probably were abroad till yesterday, because itt was all around the news. m)) I was out for some time too, but the Index Portal , and mno online focused pretty much attention to this "little" accident. Sometimes the Greens are right but on the oder side they can be a hell of a pain in the ass... Bikes March 7th, 2007, 03:46 PM Actually i just came back from London not so long ago. Agreed about the greenies Bikes March 7th, 2007, 03:46 PM Actually i just came back from London not so long ago. Agreed about the greenies Qtya March 17th, 2007, 07:24 PM A part of the main road 11 - M0 intersection is slowly nearing complition... http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/495/im000017go7.jpg (http://imageshack.us) Qtya March 17th, 2007, 07:24 PM A part of the main road 11 - M0 intersection is slowly nearing complition... http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/495/im000017go7.jpg (http://imageshack.us) Ady March 18th, 2007, 12:51 AM I know it's too late, for example the M6 is already being built. I think the principal flaw in the Hungarian (two lane) main road system was that all main roads were centered towards Budapest. Of course the reason for this was that the capital is an agglomeration of 2,5-3 million in a country of merely 10 million. But this infrastructure makes the countryside even more dependent on the capital. What is currently being done, is laying the highway grid parallel to the main road system, at 10-20 km max, save a few exceptions. This only reinforces the current situation, with all it's deficiencies. The M8 and M9 are positive exceptions. I'll point out the highways, which I think could have been planned more efficiently, and why: -With the highways in black I largely agree, although here too, I could imagine improvements, for example the M7 would be more efficient if it would run at 20-30 km from lake Balaton, because it could serve a much larger area (~30 km to both sides), than it currently does, because, well, not many people live in the water of lake Balaton, at least not permanently ;) -The M86 in green is OK untill Szombathely, but it puzzles me why it should not be connected to Graz, Austria. Of course, there is the M8, but it is much longer, so it will take years before Budapest and the Steiermark region have a direct connection, instead the M86 provides a quicker solution. -The M15 in orange should be prolonged to connect with the M86 -The M9 in Red needs some major adjustments. First of all, it should connect Sopron with Vienna, which is only logical, since in the Austrian side the A3 already almost reaches the Hungarian border. From Kaposvar it should not go straight to Szekszard, but connect to Pecs, which is the main city of southern Transdanubia. Furthermore, it should connect Szeged with Debrecen, thus creating a direct link between 3 of Hungary's 5 largest cities: Debrecen, Szeged and Pecs. -The biggest planning error of all is the M6 in purple. It should not start in Budapest, but in Gyor! Because it crosses the M7 near Szekesfehervar, there is still a direct connection from Budapest to southern Transdanubia, which is hardly longer, than the currently built M6. But, and this is a huge bonus, there is also a direct connection from the Vienna/Bratislava/Gyor triangle to Pecs and Eastern Croatia/Slavonia, and, this is very important, because even if the M0/south is widened to 2x3lanes, it will be overburdened in 5-10 more years, an alternative route from Vienna to Belgrade, bypassing Budapest, via the M6/M9. -The M8 in yellow should be extended to Eger, thus creating a second ring, at ~50-100 km around Budapest, consisting of parts of the M6 and M8. This also creates a direct highway link between the northeast (Miskolc, Nyiregyhaza, Eger) and the center and south of the country. -The M43 in pink should connect to Timisoara, which is by far the largest and most important city in Southwest Romania/Banat, not Arad. -Finally, the M3x in brown should connect Nyireghaza with Satu Mare and Baia Mare, two major cities in northwest Transylvania. http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n6/adorjan_2006/Autopalya.png Ady March 18th, 2007, 12:51 AM I know it's too late, for example the M6 is already being built. I think the principal flaw in the Hungarian (two lane) main road system was that all main roads were centered towards Budapest. Of course the reason for this was that the capital is an agglomeration of 2,5-3 million in a country of merely 10 million. But this infrastructure makes the countryside even more dependent on the capital. What is currently being done, is laying the highway grid parallel to the main road system, at 10-20 km max, save a few exceptions. This only reinforces the current situation, with all it's deficiencies. The M8 and M9 are positive exceptions. I'll point out the highways, which I think could have been planned more efficiently, and why: -With the highways in black I largely agree, although here too, I could imagine improvements, for example the M7 would be more efficient if it would run at 20-30 km from lake Balaton, because it could serve a much larger area (~30 km to both sides), than it currently does, because, well, not many people live in the water of lake Balaton, at least not permanently ;) -The M86 in green is OK untill Szombathely, but it puzzles me why it should not be connected to Graz, Austria. Of course, there is the M8, but it is much longer, so it will take years before Budapest and the Steiermark region have a direct connection, instead the M86 provides a quicker solution. -The M15 in orange should be prolonged to connect with the M86 -The M9 in Red needs some major adjustments. First of all, it should connect Sopron with Vienna, which is only logical, since in the Austrian side the A3 already almost reaches the Hungarian border. From Kaposvar it should not go straight to Szekszard, but connect to Pecs, which is the main city of southern Transdanubia. Furthermore, it should connect Szeged with Debrecen, thus creating a direct link between 3 of Hungary's 5 largest cities: Debrecen, Szeged and Pecs. -The biggest planning error of all is the M6 in purple. It should not start in Budapest, but in Gyor! Because it crosses the M7 near Szekesfehervar, there is still a direct connection from Budapest to southern Transdanubia, which is hardly longer, than the currently built M6. But, and this is a huge bonus, there is also a direct connection from the Vienna/Bratislava/Gyor triangle to Pecs and Eastern Croatia/Slavonia, and, this is very important, because even if the M0/south is widened to 2x3lanes, it will be overburdened in 5-10 more years, an alternative route from Vienna to Belgrade, bypassing Budapest, via the M6/M9. -The M8 in yellow should be extended to Eger, thus creating a second ring, at ~50-100 km around Budapest, consisting of parts of the M6 and M8. This also creates a direct highway link between the northeast (Miskolc, Nyiregyhaza, Eger) and the center and south of the country. -The M43 in pink should connect to Timisoara, which is by far the largest and most important city in Southwest Romania/Banat, not Arad. -Finally, the M3x in brown should connect Nyireghaza with Satu Mare and Baia Mare, two major cities in northwest Transylvania. http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n6/adorjan_2006/Autopalya.png Qtya March 18th, 2007, 06:01 AM ^^ WELCOME MY FRIEND!!! :drunk: :drunk: :drunk: :drunk: Qtya March 18th, 2007, 06:01 AM ^^ WELCOME MY FRIEND!!! :drunk: :drunk: :drunk: :drunk: Ady March 18th, 2007, 10:34 AM Thank you for the warm welcome :) When you sobered out :bash: I'm also very curious if you have any comments on my post :lol: I hope to get drunk :cheers: only next weekend :nuts: when I have a date with a hot Russian chick :banana: Sorry, had to try out all the smilies :ohno: Ady March 18th, 2007, 10:34 AM Thank you for the warm welcome :) When you sobered out :bash: I'm also very curious if you have any comments on my post :lol: I hope to get drunk :cheers: only next weekend :nuts: when I have a date with a hot Russian chick :banana: Sorry, had to try out all the smilies :ohno: Qtya March 18th, 2007, 04:54 PM Two photos of the common section of the M1-M7 highway. http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/3699/im000018kz2.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/5355/im000019kc0.jpg (http://imageshack.us) Qtya March 18th, 2007, 04:54 PM Two photos of the common section of the M1-M7 highway. http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/3699/im000018kz2.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/5355/im000019kc0.jpg (http://imageshack.us) Qtya March 18th, 2007, 05:34 PM I know it's too late, for example the M6 is already being built. I think the principal flaw in the Hungarian (two lane) main road system was that all main roads were centered towards Budapest. Of course the reason for this was that the capital is an agglomeration of 2,5-3 million in a country of merely 10 million. But this infrastructure makes the countryside even more dependent on the capital. What is currently being done, is laying the highway grid parallel to the main road system, at 10-20 km max, save a few exceptions. This only reinforces the current situation, with all it's deficiencies. The M8 and M9 are positive exceptions. I'll point out the highways, which I think could have been planned more efficiently, and why: -With the highways in black I largely agree, although here too, I could imagine improvements, for example the M7 would be more efficient if it would run at 20-30 km from lake Balaton, because it could serve a much larger area (~30 km to both sides), than it currently does, because, well, not many people live in the water of lake Balaton, at least not permanently ;) -The M86 in green is OK untill Szombathely, but it puzzles me why it should not be connected to Graz, Austria. Of course, there is the M8, but it is much longer, so it will take years before Budapest and the Steiermark region have a direct connection, instead the M86 provides a quicker solution. -The M15 in orange should be prolonged to connect with the M86 -The M9 in Red needs some major adjustments. First of all, it should connect Sopron with Vienna, which is only logical, since in the Austrian side the A3 already almost reaches the Hungarian border. From Kaposvar it should not go straight to Szekszard, but connect to Pecs, which is the main city of southern Transdanubia. Furthermore, it should connect Szeged with Debrecen, thus creating a direct link between 3 of Hungary's 5 largest cities: Debrecen, Szeged and Pecs. -The biggest planning error of all is the M6 in purple. It should not start in Budapest, but in Gyor! Because it crosses the M7 near Szekesfehervar, there is still a direct connection from Budapest to southern Transdanubia, which is hardly longer, than the currently built M6. But, and this is a huge bonus, there is also a direct connection from the Vienna/Bratislava/Gyor triangle to Pecs and Eastern Croatia/Slavonia, and, this is very important, because even if the M0/south is widened to 2x3lanes, it will be overburdened in 5-10 more years, an alternative route from Vienna to Belgrade, bypassing Budapest, via the M6/M9. -The M8 in yellow should be extended to Eger, thus creating a second ring, at ~50-100 km around Budapest, consisting of parts of the M6 and M8. This also creates a direct highway link between the northeast (Miskolc, Nyiregyhaza, Eger) and the center and south of the country. -The M43 in pink should connect to Timisoara, which is by far the largest and most important city in Southwest Romania/Banat, not Arad. -Finally, the M3x in brown should connect Nyireghaza with Satu Mare and Baia Mare, two major cities in northwest Transylvania. http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n6/adorjan_2006/Autopalya.png You are right Ady in almost all of your statements. It is vital for Hungary that someone powerfull enough from the prevailing governments to have the courage and will to push through a proposition that redefines Hungary's transportation planes. Our country inherited the current - all main roads centered towards Budapest - system from the days of the Monarchy. And after the trianon treaty noone realized those plans are no longer actual for the much smaller counry. (Ok I know, in the communist era it was vital for the system to sustain the regional separation and keep the regional connections with mainly the capital -> Leadership theory. So they had no intention changing it, but THANKS GOD the commie era is OVER!!! ). Years ago a türkish company planned to build the "southern highway" (todays M9), and I was so confident and happy... But nothing happend. And its a shame that since than its still not a priority to ease the huge traffic going through the M0 and Budapest by building a second (and third) ring road in the country. Not to mention what a positive economical effect would a highway generate with the connecting of neighbouring and farther counties with eachother and not just with Budapest... I like the idea of moving the start of the M6 highway to Győr. A highway connecting the M1-M15 directly with M7, M8 at Székesfehérvár and the current M6 (IMO) at Dunaújváros would boost the regions economy pretty well. And last but not least, not everyone want's to go to Budapest... We know pretty well Hungary is a transit country. Qtya March 18th, 2007, 05:34 PM I know it's too late, for example the M6 is already being built. I think the principal flaw in the Hungarian (two lane) main road system was that all main roads were centered towards Budapest. Of course the reason for this was that the capital is an agglomeration of 2,5-3 million in a country of merely 10 million. But this infrastructure makes the countryside even more dependent on the capital. What is currently being done, is laying the highway grid parallel to the main road system, at 10-20 km max, save a few exceptions. This only reinforces the current situation, with all it's deficiencies. The M8 and M9 are positive exceptions. I'll point out the highways, which I think could have been planned more efficiently, and why: -With the highways in black I largely agree, although here too, I could imagine improvements, for example the M7 would be more efficient if it would run at 20-30 km from lake Balaton, because it could serve a much larger area (~30 km to both sides), than it currently does, because, well, not many people live in the water of lake Balaton, at least not permanently ;) -The M86 in green is OK untill Szombathely, but it puzzles me why it should not be connected to Graz, Austria. Of course, there is the M8, but it is much longer, so it will take years before Budapest and the Steiermark region have a direct connection, instead the M86 provides a quicker solution. -The M15 in orange should be prolonged to connect with the M86 -The M9 in Red needs some major adjustments. First of all, it should connect Sopron with Vienna, which is only logical, since in the Austrian side the A3 already almost reaches the Hungarian border. From Kaposvar it should not go straight to Szekszard, but connect to Pecs, which is the main city of southern Transdanubia. Furthermore, it should connect Szeged with Debrecen, thus creating a direct link between 3 of Hungary's 5 largest cities: Debrecen, Szeged and Pecs. -The biggest planning error of all is the M6 in purple. It should not start in Budapest, but in Gyor! Because it crosses the M7 near Szekesfehervar, there is still a direct connection from Budapest to southern Transdanubia, which is hardly longer, than the currently built M6. But, and this is a huge bonus, there is also a direct connection from the Vienna/Bratislava/Gyor triangle to Pecs and Eastern Croatia/Slavonia, and, this is very important, because even if the M0/south is widened to 2x3lanes, it will be overburdened in 5-10 more years, an alternative route from Vienna to Belgrade, bypassing Budapest, via the M6/M9. -The M8 in yellow should be extended to Eger, thus creating a second ring, at ~50-100 km around Budapest, consisting of parts of the M6 and M8. This also creates a direct highway link between the northeast (Miskolc, Nyiregyhaza, Eger) and the center and south of the country. -The M43 in pink should connect to Timisoara, which is by far the largest and most important city in Southwest Romania/Banat, not Arad. -Finally, the M3x in brown should connect Nyireghaza with Satu Mare and Baia Mare, two major cities in northwest Transylvania. http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n6/adorjan_2006/Autopalya.png You are right Ady in almost all of your statements. It is vital for Hungary that someone powerfull enough from the prevailing governments to have the courage and will to push through a proposition that redefines Hungary's transportation planes. Our country inherited the current - all main roads centered towards Budapest - system from the days of the Monarchy. And after the trianon treaty noone realized those plans are no longer actual for the much smaller counry. (Ok I know, in the communist era it was vital for the system to sustain the regional separation and keep the regional connections with mainly the capital -> Leadership theory. So they had no intention changing it, but THANKS GOD the commie era is OVER!!! ). Years ago a türkish company planned to build the "southern highway" (todays M9), and I was so confident and happy... But nothing happend. And its a shame that since than its still not a priority to ease the huge traffic going through the M0 and Budapest by building a second (and third) ring road in the country. Not to mention what a positive economical effect would a highway generate with the connecting of neighbouring and farther counties with eachother and not just with Budapest... I like the idea of moving the start of the M6 highway to Győr. A highway connecting the M1-M15 directly with M7, M8 at Székesfehérvár and the current M6 (IMO) at Dunaújváros would boost the regions economy pretty well. And last but not least, not everyone want's to go to Budapest... We know pretty well Hungary is a transit country. Qtya March 18th, 2007, 05:52 PM I hope to get drunk :cheers: only next weekend :nuts: when I have a date with a hot Russian chick :banana: ^^ Good luck Mate! :banana: :naughty: :cheer: :okay: ;) There are other smilies... Hit "more"! Qtya March 18th, 2007, 05:52 PM I hope to get drunk :cheers: only next weekend :nuts: when I have a date with a hot Russian chick :banana: ^^ Good luck Mate! :banana: :naughty: :cheer: :okay: ;) There are other smilies... Hit "more"! Ady March 18th, 2007, 07:39 PM ^^ Good luck Mate! :banana: :naughty: :cheer: :okay: ;) There are other smilies... Hit "more"! Let the vodka flow :scouserd: Or even better, armenian cognac. Ever tried it? :booze: Ady March 18th, 2007, 07:39 PM ^^ Good luck Mate! :banana: :naughty: :cheer: :okay: ;) There are other smilies... Hit "more"! Let the vodka flow :scouserd: Or even better, armenian cognac. Ever tried it? :booze: Bikes March 18th, 2007, 07:47 PM ^^ May i suggest "Moskovskaya vodka" http://www.hjwine.com/upload/pro/20051022854181730.jpg Big fun, no hangover! Is it possible to buy that armenian cognac in Budapest? Would be interested... :cheers: If your going to have any language barriers with that russian bird, just let me know :D Bikes March 18th, 2007, 07:47 PM ^^ May i suggest "Moskovskaya vodka" http://www.hjwine.com/upload/pro/20051022854181730.jpg Big fun, no hangover! Is it possible to buy that armenian cognac in Budapest? Would be interested... :cheers: If your going to have any language barriers with that russian bird, just let me know :D Ady March 18th, 2007, 08:20 PM ^^ May i suggest "Moskovskaya vodka" http://www.hjwine.com/upload/pro/20051022854181730.jpg Big fun, no hangover! Is it possible to buy that armenian cognac in Budapest? Would be interested... :cheers: If your going to have any language barriers with that russian bird, just let me know :D I have no idea, I always smuggle it from Ukraine ;) My favorites: http://rusleb.de/images/nemiroff_premium.jpg and of course: http://armflorist.com/images/catalog/otborny.jpg Actually, since I discovered it, I don't drink French cognac anymore ;) There are of course older variants, but those are for special occasions. The 7 years old "Otborny" has a good price/quality ratio. you can buy 0.7 l. in any Ukrainian supermarket for ~ 100 Hriven, which is around 15 Euro. Ady March 18th, 2007, 08:20 PM ^^ May i suggest "Moskovskaya vodka" http://www.hjwine.com/upload/pro/20051022854181730.jpg Big fun, no hangover! Is it possible to buy that armenian cognac in Budapest? Would be interested... :cheers: If your going to have any language barriers with that russian bird, just let me know :D I have no idea, I always smuggle it from Ukraine ;) My favorites: http://rusleb.de/images/nemiroff_premium.jpg and of course: http://armflorist.com/images/catalog/otborny.jpg Actually, since I discovered it, I don't drink French cognac anymore ;) There are of course older variants, but those are for special occasions. The 7 years old "Otborny" has a good price/quality ratio. you can buy 0.7 l. in any Ukrainian supermarket for ~ 100 Hriven, which is around 15 Euro. Ady March 18th, 2007, 08:25 PM If your going to have any language barriers with that russian bird, just let me know :D So you are going to run to Amsterdam to help me out? :nuts: Net, sposibo, ya dostatochno govoryu po-russkyj :colgate: And by the way, the specimens that made it here, usually speak English too, sometimes even Dutch :) The trick is to catch the ones that are freshly here, life in the west tends to spoil them :ohno: Ady March 18th, 2007, 08:25 PM If your going to have any language barriers with that russian bird, just let me know :D So you are going to run to Amsterdam to help me out? :nuts: Net, sposibo, ya dostatochno govoryu po-russkyj :colgate: And by the way, the specimens that made it here, usually speak English too, sometimes even Dutch :) The trick is to catch the ones that are freshly here, life in the west tends to spoil them :ohno: Bikes March 18th, 2007, 08:34 PM LOL, that is true unfortunately. Nu ladna togda, vsivo haroshava. Nu kak eto shto uzhe vse gavarut po ruski, nekak ne ponotno... Btw, be careful with her, russian ladies tend to be quite strong if you know what i mean. And dont be so sure that i couldnt make it to Amsterdam in the next 14 hours ;) Bikes March 18th, 2007, 08:34 PM LOL, that is true unfortunately. Nu ladna togda, vsivo haroshava. Nu kak eto shto uzhe vse gavarut po ruski, nekak ne ponotno... Btw, be careful with her, russian ladies tend to be quite strong if you know what i mean. And dont be so sure that i couldnt make it to Amsterdam in the next 14 hours ;) Qtya March 18th, 2007, 08:42 PM I prefer Russia's Nr 1 export Vodka... The good, old fashion... Stolichnaya... http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/9759/stolichnayavodkarusse55qk2.jpg (http://imageshack.us) Qtya March 18th, 2007, 08:42 PM I prefer Russia's Nr 1 export Vodka... The good, old fashion... Stolichnaya... http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/9759/stolichnayavodkarusse55qk2.jpg (http://imageshack.us) Qtya March 18th, 2007, 08:43 PM BUT MY ALL TIME FAVORITE IS......... :nocrook: :nocrook: :nocrook: :nocrook: :nocrook: :nocrook: :nocrook: :nocrook: http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/8399/absolutvodkajj7.jpg (http://imageshack.us) :nocrook: :nocrook: :nocrook: :nocrook: :nocrook: :nocrook: :nocrook: :nocrook: Qtya March 18th, 2007, 08:43 PM BUT MY ALL TIME FAVORITE IS......... :nocrook: :nocrook: :nocrook: :nocrook: :nocrook: :nocrook: :nocrook: :nocrook: http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/8399/absolutvodkajj7.jpg (http://imageshack.us) :nocrook: :nocrook: :nocrook: :nocrook: :nocrook: :nocrook: :nocrook: :nocrook: Ady March 18th, 2007, 08:47 PM 14 hours??? What do you drive? Trabant? ;) My current record is 9,5 hours :) And Amsterdam - Kharkov, via Budapest (~2900 km) in 25 hrs, including borders and all other stops :) But if you plan to come here, I can arrange one of her friends for you, you are more than welcome ;) Although I believe in recent years there is ample supply in Budapest as well :lol: Ady March 18th, 2007, 08:47 PM 14 hours??? What do you drive? Trabant? ;) My current record is 9,5 hours :) And Amsterdam - Kharkov, via Budapest (~2900 km) in 25 hrs, including borders and all other stops :) But if you plan to come here, I can arrange one of her friends for you, you are more than welcome ;) Although I believe in recent years there is ample supply in Budapest as well :lol: Bikes March 18th, 2007, 09:41 PM No haha (astra diesel/volvo s60 diesel), i get to Frankfurt in 9 hrs, but i've never been to Amsterdam (shame on me, but no doubt i will take a trip there, when i have some time, and pick some friends from Groningen). Thanks for the offer LOL! Btw do you speak Hungarian? Bikes March 18th, 2007, 09:41 PM No haha (astra diesel/volvo s60 diesel), i get to Frankfurt in 9 hrs, but i've never been to Amsterdam (shame on me, but no doubt i will take a trip there, when i have some time, and pick some friends from Groningen). Thanks for the offer LOL! Btw do you speak Hungarian? Bikes March 18th, 2007, 09:42 PM I prefer Russia's Nr 1 export Vodka... The good, old fashion... Stolichnaya... Thats a good one! My parents were good enough to bring me one from Leningrad last time. Where can you buy this in Budapest? edit: Shouldnt we open an "Alcoholic Hungarians and Dutchies" thread? Bikes March 18th, 2007, 09:42 PM I prefer Russia's Nr 1 export Vodka... The good, old fashion... Stolichnaya... Thats a good one! My parents were good enough to bring me one from Leningrad last time. Where can you buy this in Budapest? edit: Shouldnt we open an "Alcoholic Hungarians and Dutchies" thread? Ady March 18th, 2007, 09:52 PM No haha (astra diesel/volvo s60 diesel), i get to Frankfurt in 9 hrs, but i've never been to Amsterdam (shame on me, but no doubt i will take a trip there, when i have some time, and pick some friends from Groningen). Thanks for the offer LOL! Btw do you speak Hungarian? Hogyne beszelnek :) Groningenben van a Fin-Ugor szak, ott vannak haverjaid? Hmmm... Audi A4 2.5 TDI... :rofl: Ady March 18th, 2007, 09:52 PM No haha (astra diesel/volvo s60 diesel), i get to Frankfurt in 9 hrs, but i've never been to Amsterdam (shame on me, but no doubt i will take a trip there, when i have some time, and pick some friends from Groningen). Thanks for the offer LOL! Btw do you speak Hungarian? Hogyne beszelnek :) Groningenben van a Fin-Ugor szak, ott vannak haverjaid? Hmmm... Audi A4 2.5 TDI... :rofl: Bikes March 18th, 2007, 10:10 PM Jaja! Esetleg ismersz egy Vincent van Staahl nevű srácot, vagy egy Lotjee-t? :D Az a 2.5tdi az hány ló, a BP-Frankfurt közti 1000km távot is nehezen tudom elképzelni 8 óra alatt, így is elég sok helyen 160-210 között mentem, és 9 óra volt eljutni, persze matrica vásárlás, és 2 pitstoppal egybekötve. Bikes March 18th, 2007, 10:10 PM Jaja! Esetleg ismersz egy Vincent van Staahl nevű srácot, vagy egy Lotjee-t? :D Az a 2.5tdi az hány ló, a BP-Frankfurt közti 1000km távot is nehezen tudom elképzelni 8 óra alatt, így is elég sok helyen 160-210 között mentem, és 9 óra volt eljutni, persze matrica vásárlás, és 2 pitstoppal egybekötve. Ady March 18th, 2007, 10:26 PM Jaja, hogyne ismernem oket, meg a tobbi 15.999.998-at is! ;) 155 lo, Vmax 225. Hozza kell tennem, tobb tucatszor megtettem mar ezt az utat, eleg jol tudom mikor kell indulnom hogy elkeruljem a nagyvarosok kornyeken a dugokat. Persze ha van valami balhe akkor en is kifogom neha. De GPS/TMC-vel kikerulhetoek akkor is, altalaban nagy idoveszteseg nelkul. Persze a 9,5 ora, az rekordido, egy vasarnapon volt, akkor alig vannak kamionok, eleve kisebb a forgalom, ez alkalommal minden osszejott. Reggel 8-kor idultam, 17:30-kor mar Pesten voltam :) Altalaban 10-12 ora szokott lenni, ha nincs semmi extra es nem alok meg sehol nezelodni. Frankfurt innen 3-4 orara van, tehat nem olyan rossz a te 9 orad sem :) Ady March 18th, 2007, 10:26 PM Jaja, hogyne ismernem oket, meg a tobbi 15.999.998-at is! ;) 155 lo, Vmax 225. Hozza kell tennem, tobb tucatszor megtettem mar ezt az utat, eleg jol tudom mikor kell indulnom hogy elkeruljem a nagyvarosok kornyeken a dugokat. Persze ha van valami balhe akkor en is kifogom neha. De GPS/TMC-vel kikerulhetoek akkor is, altalaban nagy idoveszteseg nelkul. Persze a 9,5 ora, az rekordido, egy vasarnapon volt, akkor alig vannak kamionok, eleve kisebb a forgalom, ez alkalommal minden osszejott. Reggel 8-kor idultam, 17:30-kor mar Pesten voltam :) Altalaban 10-12 ora szokott lenni, ha nincs semmi extra es nem alok meg sehol nezelodni. Frankfurt innen 3-4 orara van, tehat nem olyan rossz a te 9 orad sem :) Qtya March 19th, 2007, 12:40 AM Thats a good one! My parents were good enough to bring me one from Leningrad last time. Where can you buy this in Budapest? edit: Shouldnt we open an "Alcoholic Hungarians and Dutchies" thread? In every hypermarket, but defenetly Cora... Qtya March 19th, 2007, 12:40 AM Thats a good one! My parents were good enough to bring me one from Leningrad last time. Where can you buy this in Budapest? edit: Shouldnt we open an "Alcoholic Hungarians and Dutchies" thread? In every hypermarket, but defenetly Cora... Bikes March 19th, 2007, 01:15 AM Thanks Qtya! Hát igen, múltkori visszautamnál Frankfurt-ból eleve 1 órát töltöttem a legelején a dugóban, és akkor 9,5 óra volt az út. Viszont ez még így is remek dolog, a Budapest - Kraków távot a nyáron 7-8 óra alatt tettem meg, csak az a bökkenő, hogy ez mindössze 300km.. Elvileg a szlovákok és a lengyelek is építik az autópályát, de elég rendezetlen a dolog, akár 10 percet is lehet állni egy pirosnál, amikor fél sávot engednek a hegy tetején, és az építkezés sem Dubai tempóban halad. Bikes March 19th, 2007, 01:15 AM Thanks Qtya! Hát igen, múltkori visszautamnál Frankfurt-ból eleve 1 órát töltöttem a legelején a dugóban, és akkor 9,5 óra volt az út. Viszont ez még így is remek dolog, a Budapest - Kraków távot a nyáron 7-8 óra alatt tettem meg, csak az a bökkenő, hogy ez mindössze 300km.. Elvileg a szlovákok és a lengyelek is építik az autópályát, de elég rendezetlen a dolog, akár 10 percet is lehet állni egy pirosnál, amikor fél sávot engednek a hegy tetején, és az építkezés sem Dubai tempóban halad. Ady March 19th, 2007, 05:27 PM Thanks Qtya! Hát igen, múltkori visszautamnál Frankfurt-ból eleve 1 órát töltöttem a legelején a dugóban, és akkor 9,5 óra volt az út. Viszont ez még így is remek dolog, a Budapest - Kraków távot a nyáron 7-8 óra alatt tettem meg, csak az a bökkenő, hogy ez mindössze 300km.. Elvileg a szlovákok és a lengyelek is építik az autópályát, de elég rendezetlen a dolog, akár 10 percet is lehet állni egy pirosnál, amikor fél sávot engednek a hegy tetején, és az építkezés sem Dubai tempóban halad. Ja, a Szlovakoknal is, Lengyeleknel is, nagyobb prioritast elveznek eddig a nyugat-kellet iranyu autopalyak, mint az eszak-deliek... A felpalyas lezarasokkal viszont nem kell tulzottan foglalkozni a Lengyeleknel :) Masfel eve volt, Wroclaw-tol Berlin fele epitettek ki az autopalyat, az osszes feluljaronal szinten fel savosra szukitettek, es rendorlampaval szabalyoztak, csak hogy vasarnap volt es altalabban csak allt a sor mikozben senki nem jott szembol ;) Amugy ejszaka es hetvegeken nagyon ritka a rendor. Eddig, ahanyszor voltam Lengyelben, meg soha nem allititottak le. kopp kopp... Ukranban viszont minden masodik falu hataraban ott allnak, de ott csak akkor szoktam megallni ha a rendor az uttestre kilep, es kikerulni nem tudom :) Az oreg zsigajukkal ugysem ernek utol, az pedig nem erdekuk hogy a kovetkezo faluba telefonaljanak, mert akkor mar nem hozzajuk gurul a love :) Ha mar viszont leallitanak, az az 5-10 perc jobban faj mint a 10-20 hrivnya amivel meg lehet uszni, meg a 150-et lakott teruleten is :) Egy dolgot viszont megfogadtam a multkor, ejszaka nem utazok tobbet Ukranban! Amugy is van boven mit mast tenni olykor ;) Mar 2 gumim es egy felnim banja! Legutobb katyuba mentem bele Kiev es Poltava kozott feluton es a jobbelso gumim szele szetrepedt. Az volt a szerencsem hogy nagyon kodos idojaras volt es csak 100-110-el mentem. Ez alkalammol viszont egesz jo tapasztalatom volt a helybeli zsarukkal! nem tudtam felemelni az autot, mert 2 savos, forgalmas utszakasz volt, az utszele pedig lejtet, raadasul az eso erosen elaztatta a talajt. Megallt 2 ujonc, bementek a kovetkezo faluba es hoztak egy jo nagy darab emelot, tudod olyan 1/2 m2-es labbal :lol: Meg szereltuk fel a potkereket, amikor 20 meterrel elottunk megall egy Lexus terepjaro, szinten defekttel! Peddig annak nem kis kerekei vannak... A milicistaknak adok 50 hrivnyat, de orultek neki! :lol: es szolok, de csinaljatok valamit ezzel a lyukkal! A vicc az egeszben, hogy egy hettel ra, amikor hazamentem, direkt figyeltem es persze meg ugyanott volt... :bash: Ady March 19th, 2007, 05:27 PM Thanks Qtya! Hát igen, múltkori visszautamnál Frankfurt-ból eleve 1 órát töltöttem a legelején a dugóban, és akkor 9,5 óra volt az út. Viszont ez még így is remek dolog, a Budapest - Kraków távot a nyáron 7-8 óra alatt tettem meg, csak az a bökkenő, hogy ez mindössze 300km.. Elvileg a szlovákok és a lengyelek is építik az autópályát, de elég rendezetlen a dolog, akár 10 percet is lehet állni egy pirosnál, amikor fél sávot engednek a hegy tetején, és az építkezés sem Dubai tempóban halad. Ja, a Szlovakoknal is, Lengyeleknel is, nagyobb prioritast elveznek eddig a nyugat-kellet iranyu autopalyak, mint az eszak-deliek... A felpalyas lezarasokkal viszont nem kell tulzottan foglalkozni a Lengyeleknel :) Masfel eve volt, Wroclaw-tol Berlin fele epitettek ki az autopalyat, az osszes feluljaronal szinten fel savosra szukitettek, es rendorlampaval szabalyoztak, csak hogy vasarnap volt es altalabban csak allt a sor mikozben senki nem jott szembol ;) Amugy ejszaka es hetvegeken nagyon ritka a rendor. Eddig, ahanyszor voltam Lengyelben, meg soha nem allititottak le. kopp kopp... Ukranban viszont minden masodik falu hataraban ott allnak, de ott csak akkor szoktam megallni ha a rendor az uttestre kilep, es kikerulni nem tudom :) Az oreg zsigajukkal ugysem ernek utol, az pedig nem erdekuk hogy a kovetkezo faluba telefonaljanak, mert akkor mar nem hozzajuk gurul a love :) Ha mar viszont leallitanak, az az 5-10 perc jobban faj mint a 10-20 hrivnya amivel meg lehet uszni, meg a 150-et lakott teruleten is :) Egy dolgot viszont megfogadtam a multkor, ejszaka nem utazok tobbet Ukranban! Amugy is van boven mit mast tenni olykor ;) Mar 2 gumim es egy felnim banja! Legutobb katyuba mentem bele Kiev es Poltava kozott feluton es a jobbelso gumim szele szetrepedt. Az volt a szerencsem hogy nagyon kodos idojaras volt es csak 100-110-el mentem. Ez alkalammol viszont egesz jo tapasztalatom volt a helybeli zsarukkal! nem tudtam felemelni az autot, mert 2 savos, forgalmas utszakasz volt, az utszele pedig lejtet, raadasul az eso erosen elaztatta a talajt. Megallt 2 ujonc, bementek a kovetkezo faluba es hoztak egy jo nagy darab emelot, tudod olyan 1/2 m2-es labbal :lol: Meg szereltuk fel a potkereket, amikor 20 meterrel elottunk megall egy Lexus terepjaro, szinten defekttel! Peddig annak nem kis kerekei vannak... A milicistaknak adok 50 hrivnyat, de orultek neki! :lol: es szolok, de csinaljatok valamit ezzel a lyukkal! A vicc az egeszben, hogy egy hettel ra, amikor hazamentem, direkt figyeltem es persze meg ugyanott volt... :bash: Bikes March 19th, 2007, 06:10 PM Igen, a Wroclaw-os dologra emlékszem, én is jártam arra akkor, a legszebb a barázdás út, ahol olyan hanggal közlekedsz mintha vonaton ülnél, Auschwitz felé meg vagy fizetsz pályát (ami szintúgy nem valami jó), vagy fél méter széles utakon döcögsz. Az Ukrajnás dolog érdekelne részletesebben is, én éltem anno Kremenchug-ban, és szeretnék egyrészt elmenni oda, másrészt pedig Kiev-be, viszont nagyon tartok az úttól autóval. Egyrészt a kipakolástól a maffia által, vagy ha a rendőr pofátlanul nagy összeget kér el, meg este defekttel hülyülni sem lehet kellemes ahogy írtad. Téged mi köt oda egyébként? Bikes March 19th, 2007, 06:10 PM Igen, a Wroclaw-os dologra emlékszem, én is jártam arra akkor, a legszebb a barázdás út, ahol olyan hanggal közlekedsz mintha vonaton ülnél, Auschwitz felé meg vagy fizetsz pályát (ami szintúgy nem valami jó), vagy fél méter széles utakon döcögsz. Az Ukrajnás dolog érdekelne részletesebben is, én éltem anno Kremenchug-ban, és szeretnék egyrészt elmenni oda, másrészt pedig Kiev-be, viszont nagyon tartok az úttól autóval. Egyrészt a kipakolástól a maffia által, vagy ha a rendőr pofátlanul nagy összeget kér el, meg este defekttel hülyülni sem lehet kellemes ahogy írtad. Téged mi köt oda egyébként? Bikes March 19th, 2007, 06:15 PM A tavalyinál is többet költ az autópálya-kezelő a gyorsforgalmi utak felújítására. Tavasztól az M7-esn és az M3-ason is komoly lezárások várhatóak. http://www.vezess.hu/content/cm/Kozlekedes/Autopalya/Jok/M3_fuzesabony_492.jpg Az autópálya-kezelő szakemberei 70 hídon terveznek kisebb-nagyobb beavatkozásokat Az M7-es törökbálinti szakaszát is lezárják A tavalyi évhez viszonyítva az Állami Autópálya Kezelő Zrt. mintegy 100 millió forinttal többet, 7,6 milliárd forintot fordít a gyorsforgalmi úthálózat fenntartására - tudatta közleményében a vállalat. Ebből az összegből 4,2 milliárd jut az utak felújítására, 3,1 milliárd a hídfelújításokra és mintegy 300 millió forint az egyéb fenntartási tevékenységekre. Májustól lehet számítani az autópályákon a munkagépek megjelenésére, az ÁAK Zrt. ekkor indítja a jelentősebb munkálatait. A felújítási program első nagyobb felvonásában a kivitelezők az M1-es autópálya bal oldalának 145 + 550. és 160 + 550. km-szelvénye közötti szakaszán újítják fel a burkolatot. A munkálatok július végéig tartanak, majd a Forma-1-es magyar nagydíjat követően ugyanezen szakasz jobb oldalán folytatódnak. Nem ez lesz azonban a legnagyobb forgalomzavarással járó beruházás 2007-ben. Szeptember elején az M7-es autópálya törökbálinti szakaszának (az M1- M7 elválási pontjától az M0-ig) a Balaton felé vezető oldalát újítják fel. Az egy hónapig tartó munkálatok során ezt a szakaszt teljesen lezárják, kerülni az M1-es autópályán és az M0 autóúton kijelölt útvonalon lehet. Komoly forgalomkorlátozásra kell számítani az M3-as autópálya és az M0-s autóút csomópontjának építésénél is. Március 19-től, azaz mától tíz napig a csomóponti hidak gerendáit emelik be a kivitelezők. Az első héten a bal, a másodikon a jobb pályát zárják le, mialatt a forgalmat a szemközti oldalra terelik. Ám az ÁAK Zrt. emberei megpróbálnak minél kevesebb embernek bosszúságot okozni, ezért a reggeli csúcsidőszak alatt (reggel 5-től 11-ig) szüneteltetik a munkálatokat, így ezekben az órákban két-két forgalmi sávot biztosítanak az autósoknak. Az év folyamán többször is hasonlóan jelentős terelésére kell számítani az M3-as autópálya 13. km-szelvényénél. http://vezess.hu Bikes March 19th, 2007, 06:15 PM A tavalyinál is többet költ az autópálya-kezelő a gyorsforgalmi utak felújítására. Tavasztól az M7-esn és az M3-ason is komoly lezárások várhatóak. http://www.vezess.hu/content/cm/Kozlekedes/Autopalya/Jok/M3_fuzesabony_492.jpg Az autópálya-kezelő szakemberei 70 hídon terveznek kisebb-nagyobb beavatkozásokat Az M7-es törökbálinti szakaszát is lezárják A tavalyi évhez viszonyítva az Állami Autópálya Kezelő Zrt. mintegy 100 millió forinttal többet, 7,6 milliárd forintot fordít a gyorsforgalmi úthálózat fenntartására - tudatta közleményében a vállalat. Ebből az összegből 4,2 milliárd jut az utak felújítására, 3,1 milliárd a hídfelújításokra és mintegy 300 millió forint az egyéb fenntartási tevékenységekre. Májustól lehet számítani az autópályákon a munkagépek megjelenésére, az ÁAK Zrt. ekkor indítja a jelentősebb munkálatait. A felújítási program első nagyobb felvonásában a kivitelezők az M1-es autópálya bal oldalának 145 + 550. és 160 + 550. km-szelvénye közötti szakaszán újítják fel a burkolatot. A munkálatok július végéig tartanak, majd a Forma-1-es magyar nagydíjat követően ugyanezen szakasz jobb oldalán folytatódnak. Nem ez lesz azonban a legnagyobb forgalomzavarással járó beruházás 2007-ben. Szeptember elején az M7-es autópálya törökbálinti szakaszának (az M1- M7 elválási pontjától az M0-ig) a Balaton felé vezető oldalát újítják fel. Az egy hónapig tartó munkálatok során ezt a szakaszt teljesen lezárják, kerülni az M1-es autópályán és az M0 autóúton kijelölt útvonalon lehet. Komoly forgalomkorlátozásra kell számítani az M3-as autópálya és az M0-s autóút csomópontjának építésénél is. Március 19-től, azaz mától tíz napig a csomóponti hidak gerendáit emelik be a kivitelezők. Az első héten a bal, a másodikon a jobb pályát zárják le, mialatt a forgalmat a szemközti oldalra terelik. Ám az ÁAK Zrt. emberei megpróbálnak minél kevesebb embernek bosszúságot okozni, ezért a reggeli csúcsidőszak alatt (reggel 5-től 11-ig) szüneteltetik a munkálatokat, így ezekben az órákban két-két forgalmi sávot biztosítanak az autósoknak. Az év folyamán többször is hasonlóan jelentős terelésére kell számítani az M3-as autópálya 13. km-szelvényénél. http://vezess.hu Ady March 19th, 2007, 07:51 PM Igen, a Wroclaw-os dologra emlékszem, én is jártam arra akkor, a legszebb a barázdás út, ahol olyan hanggal közlekedsz mintha vonaton ülnél, Auschwitz felé meg vagy fizetsz pályát (ami szintúgy nem valami jó), vagy fél méter széles utakon döcögsz. Az Ukrajnás dolog érdekelne részletesebben is, én éltem anno Kremenchug-ban, és szeretnék egyrészt elmenni oda, másrészt pedig Kiev-be, viszont nagyon tartok az úttól autóval. Egyrészt a kipakolástól a maffia által, vagy ha a rendőr pofátlanul nagy összeget kér el, meg este defekttel hülyülni sem lehet kellemes ahogy írtad. Téged mi köt oda egyébként? Az Ukran rendorok, vamosok stb. nincsenek sokkal a kutyak felett, abban mindenkepp azonosak, hogy nem szabad hogy megszagoljak hogy felsz toluk. Abban a pilanatban kikezdenek veled. En mondjuk lepeselonnyel kezdek, nincsenek hozzaszokva a hollandokhoz, Magyar rendszamu autot sem nagyon latsz, csak Karpataljan. Tehat nem tudnak elhelyezni az egyszerusitett vilagkepukben. Latni is rendszeresen a zavart a pofajukon. Kicsit le kell kezelni oket, jo sokat nyeponimajujaturistizvinineznalozni, egy tizest vagy huszast a kezukbe nyomni es davaj :) En kilencszer jartam ott eddig, ebbol nyolcszor autoval es meg sosem volt komolyabb problemam a hatosagokkal, de meg mafiaval sem :) Nem is vagy ott celpont, meg ha felso-kozeposztalyu "masinaval" kozlekedsz sem. Lehet hogy 8-10 eve igy volt de ma mar biztos nem. Persze hogy van ott mafia, de miert te lennel pont a celpontjuk, ha mondjuk Kievben vagy Kharkovban tobb Infinity-t es Audi Q7-est latni mint Budapesten? Ja, az egyetlen kemeny dio, ha be akarsz lepni ceges autoval es nincs hitelesitett felhatalmazasod... Az mar nem megy apropenzzel, tehat azt mindenkeppen erdemes vinni. Amugy mit csinaltal Kremencsugban, ott tanultal? Es miert pont Kievbe akarsz menni? Persze hogy szep varos, de draga is, nyugati arszint, es sok a kulfoldi, rontjak a piacot ;) A legjobbak a nehanyszazezres oblast szekhelyek. Kharkov is jo, bar van akkora varos mint BP, mert huszonvalahany egyeteme is van :) Elso alkalommal azert persze ajanlatos nem egyedul menni. Mikor lenne szo rola? En ugy 2-3 havonta jarok arra. Ady March 19th, 2007, 07:51 PM Igen, a Wroclaw-os dologra emlékszem, én is jártam arra akkor, a legszebb a barázdás út, ahol olyan hanggal közlekedsz mintha vonaton ülnél, Auschwitz felé meg vagy fizetsz pályát (ami szintúgy nem valami jó), vagy fél méter széles utakon döcögsz. Az Ukrajnás dolog érdekelne részletesebben is, én éltem anno Kremenchug-ban, és szeretnék egyrészt elmenni oda, másrészt pedig Kiev-be, viszont nagyon tartok az úttól autóval. Egyrészt a kipakolástól a maffia által, vagy ha a rendőr pofátlanul nagy összeget kér el, meg este defekttel hülyülni sem lehet kellemes ahogy írtad. Téged mi köt oda egyébként? Az Ukran rendorok, vamosok stb. nincsenek sokkal a kutyak felett, abban mindenkepp azonosak, hogy nem szabad hogy megszagoljak hogy felsz toluk. Abban a pilanatban kikezdenek veled. En mondjuk lepeselonnyel kezdek, nincsenek hozzaszokva a hollandokhoz, Magyar rendszamu autot sem nagyon latsz, csak Karpataljan. Tehat nem tudnak elhelyezni az egyszerusitett vilagkepukben. Latni is rendszeresen a zavart a pofajukon. Kicsit le kell kezelni oket, jo sokat nyeponimajujaturistizvinineznalozni, egy tizest vagy huszast a kezukbe nyomni es davaj :) En kilencszer jartam ott eddig, ebbol nyolcszor autoval es meg sosem volt komolyabb problemam a hatosagokkal, de meg mafiaval sem :) Nem is vagy ott celpont, meg ha felso-kozeposztalyu "masinaval" kozlekedsz sem. Lehet hogy 8-10 eve igy volt de ma mar biztos nem. Persze hogy van ott mafia, de miert te lennel pont a celpontjuk, ha mondjuk Kievben vagy Kharkovban tobb Infinity-t es Audi Q7-est latni mint Budapesten? Ja, az egyetlen kemeny dio, ha be akarsz lepni ceges autoval es nincs hitelesitett felhatalmazasod... Az mar nem megy apropenzzel, tehat azt mindenkeppen erdemes vinni. Amugy mit csinaltal Kremencsugban, ott tanultal? Es miert pont Kievbe akarsz menni? Persze hogy szep varos, de draga is, nyugati arszint, es sok a kulfoldi, rontjak a piacot ;) A legjobbak a nehanyszazezres oblast szekhelyek. Kharkov is jo, bar van akkora varos mint BP, mert huszonvalahany egyeteme is van :) Elso alkalommal azert persze ajanlatos nem egyedul menni. Mikor lenne szo rola? En ugy 2-3 havonta jarok arra. Bikes March 19th, 2007, 08:55 PM Szivesen csatlakoznék, hogyha erről lehetne szó, és jó ötletnek tartom, hogy nem olyanokkal mennék ki akik szintén nem voltak még így. Anno vonattal / repülővel közlekedtünk. Én 89-ben voltam kint majd egy évet, szüleim átpasszoltak a nagyszüleimnek, és mehetett a reggeli 1 órás sorbanállás kenyérért majd még egy tejért, csodálkoztak is a szüleim amikor visszakerültem, hogy milyen türelmes gyerek vagyok.. Volt dacha is a közelben, meg ozera sok liguskával, azok voltak a szép idők.. Na mindegy, jó lenne visszanézni mi maradt a városból (nagyszüleim elköltöztek 90-ben, jó messzire a CCCP-től, vagy annak utódállamaitól). Kiev nyílván egy olyan város, amit meg kell néznem, de persze van ráció abban amit mondasz, és érdekesen is hangzik.. Szólj, hogy neked mikor lenne jó, én elég flexibilis vagyok, főleg ha utazásról van szó. Bikes March 19th, 2007, 08:55 PM Szivesen csatlakoznék, hogyha erről lehetne szó, és jó ötletnek tartom, hogy nem olyanokkal mennék ki akik szintén nem voltak még így. Anno vonattal / repülővel közlekedtünk. Én 89-ben voltam kint majd egy évet, szüleim átpasszoltak a nagyszüleimnek, és mehetett a reggeli 1 órás sorbanállás kenyérért majd még egy tejért, csodálkoztak is a szüleim amikor visszakerültem, hogy milyen türelmes gyerek vagyok.. Volt dacha is a közelben, meg ozera sok liguskával, azok voltak a szép idők.. Na mindegy, jó lenne visszanézni mi maradt a városból (nagyszüleim elköltöztek 90-ben, jó messzire a CCCP-től, vagy annak utódállamaitól). Kiev nyílván egy olyan város, amit meg kell néznem, de persze van ráció abban amit mondasz, és érdekesen is hangzik.. Szólj, hogy neked mikor lenne jó, én elég flexibilis vagyok, főleg ha utazásról van szó. Qtya March 20th, 2007, 05:43 PM M5 at night via mobile phone.... :lol: http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/2199/spa0232ih2.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/4844/spa0234wv7.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img465.imageshack.us/img465/2162/spa0235yz9.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/6664/spa0236eu1.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/1866/spa0237vb9.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/3061/spa0240yr2.jpg (http://imageshack.us) Qtya March 20th, 2007, 05:43 PM M5 at night via mobile phone.... :lol: http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/2199/spa0232ih2.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/4844/spa0234wv7.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img465.imageshack.us/img465/2162/spa0235yz9.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/6664/spa0236eu1.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/1866/spa0237vb9.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/3061/spa0240yr2.jpg (http://imageshack.us) Bikes March 20th, 2007, 06:57 PM Very artistic :D Bikes March 20th, 2007, 06:57 PM Very artistic :D Qtya March 20th, 2007, 07:00 PM :lol: Yeah... The navi is very bright... :lol: Qtya March 20th, 2007, 07:00 PM :lol: Yeah... The navi is very bright... :lol: Ady March 21st, 2007, 11:37 AM Szivesen csatlakoznék, hogyha erről lehetne szó, és jó ötletnek tartom, hogy nem olyanokkal mennék ki akik szintén nem voltak még így. Anno vonattal / repülővel közlekedtünk. Én 89-ben voltam kint majd egy évet, szüleim átpasszoltak a nagyszüleimnek, és mehetett a reggeli 1 órás sorbanállás kenyérért majd még egy tejért, csodálkoztak is a szüleim amikor visszakerültem, hogy milyen türelmes gyerek vagyok.. Volt dacha is a közelben, meg ozera sok liguskával, azok voltak a szép idők.. Na mindegy, jó lenne visszanézni mi maradt a városból (nagyszüleim elköltöztek 90-ben, jó messzire a CCCP-től, vagy annak utódállamaitól). Kiev nyílván egy olyan város, amit meg kell néznem, de persze van ráció abban amit mondasz, és érdekesen is hangzik.. Szólj, hogy neked mikor lenne jó, én elég flexibilis vagyok, főleg ha utazásról van szó. Jol ertem egyik vagy mindket szulod onnan szarmazik? Persze, hogy Kievet erdemes megnezni, de egy napnal tobbet nem tolgtenek ott :) Ja, a dachazas klassz dolog, sosem elveztem meg a semmitevest ugy mint az egyik baratom dachajaban tavaly nyaron ;) Nagyot neztek amikor elovettem a csomagtartobol az utkozben vasarolt bogracsot, de nagy sikert aratott a birkaporkolt :) 3 hete jottem haza, terv szerint majusban megyek megint, majd szolok :) Ady March 21st, 2007, 11:37 AM Szivesen csatlakoznék, hogyha erről lehetne szó, és jó ötletnek tartom, hogy nem olyanokkal mennék ki akik szintén nem voltak még így. Anno vonattal / repülővel közlekedtünk. Én 89-ben voltam kint majd egy évet, szüleim átpasszoltak a nagyszüleimnek, és mehetett a reggeli 1 órás sorbanállás kenyérért majd még egy tejért, csodálkoztak is a szüleim amikor visszakerültem, hogy milyen türelmes gyerek vagyok.. Volt dacha is a közelben, meg ozera sok liguskával, azok voltak a szép idők.. Na mindegy, jó lenne visszanézni mi maradt a városból (nagyszüleim elköltöztek 90-ben, jó messzire a CCCP-től, vagy annak utódállamaitól). Kiev nyílván egy olyan város, amit meg kell néznem, de persze van ráció abban amit mondasz, és érdekesen is hangzik.. Szólj, hogy neked mikor lenne jó, én elég flexibilis vagyok, főleg ha utazásról van szó. Jol ertem egyik vagy mindket szulod onnan szarmazik? Persze, hogy Kievet erdemes megnezni, de egy napnal tobbet nem tolgtenek ott :) Ja, a dachazas klassz dolog, sosem elveztem meg a semmitevest ugy mint az egyik baratom dachajaban tavaly nyaron ;) Nagyot neztek amikor elovettem a csomagtartobol az utkozben vasarolt bogracsot, de nagy sikert aratott a birkaporkolt :) 3 hete jottem haza, terv szerint majusban megyek megint, majd szolok :) Bikes March 21st, 2007, 12:11 PM Ohh az remek időzítés lenne. Igen, édesanyám orosz (Ural alja), júliusban megyek a maradék rokonokat meglátogatni Leningrádba. Én sem vagyok az a semmittevő típus, de a dacha + saslik + jó társaság elég kellemes tud lenni. :) Bikes March 21st, 2007, 12:11 PM Ohh az remek időzítés lenne. Igen, édesanyám orosz (Ural alja), júliusban megyek a maradék rokonokat meglátogatni Leningrádba. Én sem vagyok az a semmittevő típus, de a dacha + saslik + jó társaság elég kellemes tud lenni. :) Qtya March 22nd, 2007, 06:04 PM No haha (astra diesel/volvo s60 diesel), i get to Frankfurt in 9 hrs, but i've never been to Amsterdam (shame on me, but no doubt i will take a trip there, when i have some time, and pick some friends from Groningen). Thanks for the offer LOL! Btw do you speak Hungarian? You have a car like this one Bikes? Good for You! :okay: http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/1568/im000011uy9.jpg (http://imageshack.us) Qtya March 22nd, 2007, 06:04 PM No haha (astra diesel/volvo s60 diesel), i get to Frankfurt in 9 hrs, but i've never been to Amsterdam (shame on me, but no doubt i will take a trip there, when i have some time, and pick some friends from Groningen). Thanks for the offer LOL! Btw do you speak Hungarian? You have a car like this one Bikes? Good for You! :okay: http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/1568/im000011uy9.jpg (http://imageshack.us) Bikes March 22nd, 2007, 10:25 PM Partly owned (company car), but yes, in black and d5. You could have done something more creepy, come to my house and take a photo of the exact car, then post it here :D Bikes March 22nd, 2007, 10:25 PM Partly owned (company car), but yes, in black and d5. You could have done something more creepy, come to my house and take a photo of the exact car, then post it here :D Qtya March 22nd, 2007, 10:29 PM :lol: Qtya March 22nd, 2007, 10:29 PM :lol: Petter of Stockholm March 23rd, 2007, 10:18 PM You have a car like this one Bikes? Good for You! :okay: http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/1568/im000011uy9.jpg (http://imageshack.us) Very common car in Sweden :D Here is the figures of the Swedish carsales of february 2007: http://www.bilsweden.se/files/topp0703.pdf 1.Volvo V70 2.SAAB 9-5 3.Volvo V50 4.SAAB 9-3 5.Ford Focus 6.VW Golf 7.VW Passat 8.Peugeot 307 9.Audi A4 10.Toyota Avensis 11.Toyota Corolla 12.Audi A6 13.Skoda Octavia 14.Opel Astra 15.Volvo S80 17.Volvo C30 (SOOO NICE!!!) 21.Volvo XC90 26.Volvo S40 27.Volvo S60 Petter of Stockholm March 23rd, 2007, 10:18 PM You have a car like this one Bikes? Good for You! :okay: http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/1568/im000011uy9.jpg (http://imageshack.us) Very common car in Sweden :D Here is the figures of the Swedish carsales of february 2007: http://www.bilsweden.se/files/topp0703.pdf 1.Volvo V70 2.SAAB 9-5 3.Volvo V50 4.SAAB 9-3 5.Ford Focus 6.VW Golf 7.VW Passat 8.Peugeot 307 9.Audi A4 10.Toyota Avensis 11.Toyota Corolla 12.Audi A6 13.Skoda Octavia 14.Opel Astra 15.Volvo S80 17.Volvo C30 (SOOO NICE!!!) 21.Volvo XC90 26.Volvo S40 27.Volvo S60 Qtya March 24th, 2007, 10:00 AM Not exactly connected to the topic, but thank you for the information! :lol: Qtya March 24th, 2007, 10:00 AM Not exactly connected to the topic, but thank you for the information! :lol: Verso March 24th, 2007, 06:19 PM Two photos of the common section of the M1-M7 highway. http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/3699/im000018kz2.jpg (http://imageshack.us) I've got a question regarding this photo: when you reach the interchange between the M1 and M7, there's also destination Zagreb written (if you follow the M7). When I was there in 1998, there wasn't any sign there for Ljubljana, is it perhaps now? We don't have any sign for Budapest in Slovenia :( hopefully that will change after 2008... Verso March 24th, 2007, 06:19 PM Two photos of the common section of the M1-M7 highway. http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/3699/im000018kz2.jpg (http://imageshack.us) I've got a question regarding this photo: when you reach the interchange between the M1 and M7, there's also destination Zagreb written (if you follow the M7). When I was there in 1998, there wasn't any sign there for Ljubljana, is it perhaps now? We don't have any sign for Budapest in Slovenia :( hopefully that will change after 2008... Bikes March 24th, 2007, 06:43 PM I've seen Ljubljana written on M7, im pretty sure about this, i even remember that i was thinking its so close that i should just drive a few hours more, and then i can see your capital city :) Bikes March 24th, 2007, 06:43 PM I've seen Ljubljana written on M7, im pretty sure about this, i even remember that i was thinking its so close that i should just drive a few hours more, and then i can see your capital city :) Verso March 24th, 2007, 07:31 PM ^^ Hehe, by your car you'd be here immediately :D (after 2008 actually;)). Heh, I find it pretty crazy that you have sign for Ljubljana, a city of only 300,000 inhabitants, in Budapest, we don't have sign for Budapest, a city with as much inhabitants as my entire country, anywhere in Slovenia. When the motorway is finished, I'd expect such a sign in Maribor, in Ljubljana, it would still look a little funny, to be honest. Heh, I guess it's a small-country sindrome, everything looks far away. We don't even have signs for Vienna or Venice in Slovenia... Verso March 24th, 2007, 07:31 PM ^^ Hehe, by your car you'd be here immediately :D (after 2008 actually;)). Heh, I find it pretty crazy that you have sign for Ljubljana, a city of only 300,000 inhabitants, in Budapest, we don't have sign for Budapest, a city with as much inhabitants as my entire country, anywhere in Slovenia. When the motorway is finished, I'd expect such a sign in Maribor, in Ljubljana, it would still look a little funny, to be honest. Heh, I guess it's a small-country sindrome, everything looks far away. We don't even have signs for Vienna or Venice in Slovenia... Qwert March 25th, 2007, 02:31 PM ^^For example in Bratislava are not signs for Budapest or Prague. There are only signs for Vienna, Gyor (HU) and Brno (CZ), Komárno (Slovak border town on the Hungarian border) and for Žilina. So no signs for any Polish or Ukraine city and even for second largest Slovak city - Košice. Qwert March 25th, 2007, 02:31 PM ^^For example in Bratislava are not signs for Budapest or Prague. There are only signs for Vienna, Gyor (HU) and Brno (CZ), Komárno (Slovak border town on the Hungarian border) and for Žilina. So no signs for any Polish or Ukraine city and even for second largest Slovak city - Košice. Marek.kvackaj March 25th, 2007, 03:08 PM ^^For example in Bratislava are not signs for Budapest or Prague. There are only signs for Vienna, Gyor (HU) and Brno (CZ), Komárno (Slovak border town on the Hungarian border) and for Žilina. So no signs for any Polish or Ukraine city and even for second largest Slovak city - Košice. maybe soon when will be finished highway from Bratislava to Polish border we will get signs for Krakow :) or after 2013 Bratislava to Kiev :nuts: Marek.kvackaj March 25th, 2007, 03:08 PM ^^For example in Bratislava are not signs for Budapest or Prague. There are only signs for Vienna, Gyor (HU) and Brno (CZ), Komárno (Slovak border town on the Hungarian border) and for Žilina. So no signs for any Polish or Ukraine city and even for second largest Slovak city - Košice. maybe soon when will be finished highway from Bratislava to Polish border we will get signs for Krakow :) or after 2013 Bratislava to Kiev :nuts: Qwert March 25th, 2007, 03:15 PM If there are no signs for Budapest and Prague there would be no signs for Kraków as well. Kiev is more than 1000 km from Bratislava, the only sign for Kiev could be in Bratislava airport;) Qwert March 25th, 2007, 03:15 PM If there are no signs for Budapest and Prague there would be no signs for Kraków as well. Kiev is more than 1000 km from Bratislava, the only sign for Kiev could be in Bratislava airport;) Verso March 25th, 2007, 04:25 PM ^^ LOL :D ^^For example in Bratislava are not signs for Budapest or Prague. There are only signs for Vienna, Gyor (HU) and Brno (CZ), Komárno (Slovak border town on the Hungarian border) and for Žilina. So no signs for any Polish or Ukraine city and even for second largest Slovak city - Košice. I wouldn't miss sign for Prague in Bratislava that much, Brno would suffice, but Budapest should be there IMO (along with Győr). I even saw signs for Budapest in Bratislava when I was there in 2003 (I can't remember if I saw them or not when I was there in 2006, too drunk obviously:lol:), are they gone now? Btw, the only Hungarian place, depicted on signs in Slovenia, is a small border town Lenti. :lol: Verso March 25th, 2007, 04:25 PM ^^ LOL :D ^^For example in Bratislava are not signs for Budapest or Prague. There are only signs for Vienna, Gyor (HU) and Brno (CZ), Komárno (Slovak border town on the Hungarian border) and for Žilina. So no signs for any Polish or Ukraine city and even for second largest Slovak city - Košice. I wouldn't miss sign for Prague in Bratislava that much, Brno would suffice, but Budapest should be there IMO (along with Győr). I even saw signs for Budapest in Bratislava when I was there in 2003 (I can't remember if I saw them or not when I was there in 2006, too drunk obviously:lol:), are they gone now? Btw, the only Hungarian place, depicted on signs in Slovenia, is a small border town Lenti. :lol: Rebasepoiss March 27th, 2007, 09:18 PM ^ You slovenians are so ignorant :D Rebasepoiss March 27th, 2007, 09:18 PM ^ You slovenians are so ignorant :D Verso March 27th, 2007, 10:45 PM ^ :lol: I bet number of Slovenians who have HEARD of a city like Zalaegerszeg (almost 100,000 inhabitants, close to Slovenia) can be counted with fingers of one hand. :lol: I mean, Slovenia bordering Hungary, that's so odd! :D Verso March 27th, 2007, 10:45 PM ^ :lol: I bet number of Slovenians who have HEARD of a city like Zalaegerszeg (almost 100,000 inhabitants, close to Slovenia) can be counted with fingers of one hand. :lol: I mean, Slovenia bordering Hungary, that's so odd! :D Bikes March 28th, 2007, 05:54 PM M0 Motorway today in the morning http://ducq.com/M0/M01.jpg http://ducq.com/M0/M02.jpg http://ducq.com/M0/M03.jpg http://ducq.com/M0/M04.jpg http://ducq.com/M0/M05.jpg http://ducq.com/M0/M06.jpg This is a relatively new section between M5 and the Airports (Ferihegy 2A/2B and Ferihegy 1) http://ducq.com/M0/M07.jpg http://ducq.com/M0/M08.jpg http://ducq.com/M0/M09.jpg http://ducq.com/M0/M010.jpg http://ducq.com/M0/M011.jpg http://ducq.com/M0/M012.jpg http://ducq.com/M0/M013.jpg Waiting for that Delta.. http://ducq.com/M0/delta.jpg Bikes March 28th, 2007, 05:54 PM M0 Motorway today in the morning http://ducq.com/M0/M01.jpg http://ducq.com/M0/M02.jpg http://ducq.com/M0/M03.jpg http://ducq.com/M0/M04.jpg http://ducq.com/M0/M05.jpg http://ducq.com/M0/M06.jpg This is a relatively new section between M5 and the Airports (Ferihegy 2A/2B and Ferihegy 1) http://ducq.com/M0/M07.jpg http://ducq.com/M0/M08.jpg http://ducq.com/M0/M09.jpg http://ducq.com/M0/M010.jpg http://ducq.com/M0/M011.jpg http://ducq.com/M0/M012.jpg http://ducq.com/M0/M013.jpg Waiting for that Delta.. http://ducq.com/M0/delta.jpg Verso March 29th, 2007, 03:19 PM Sorry for OT, I'd just like to post these two pix.Btw, the only Hungarian place, depicted on signs in Slovenia, is a small border town Lenti. :lol:Here, taken by me yesterday: http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/6070/a1a5073da3.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/5505/a1a5080wg4.jpg (http://imageshack.us) :) Verso March 29th, 2007, 03:19 PM Sorry for OT, I'd just like to post these two pix.Btw, the only Hungarian place, depicted on signs in Slovenia, is a small border town Lenti. :lol:Here, taken by me yesterday: http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/6070/a1a5073da3.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/5505/a1a5080wg4.jpg (http://imageshack.us) :) x-type March 29th, 2007, 05:50 PM only Lenti :lol: where did you just find it? :D in Croatia Budapest signs start at Zagreb bypass and continue all way the A4. there also might be sign to Barcs at A3 at exits Kutina and Okučani, i'm not sure, but on D45 and D5 you can find Barcs signs. and in Slavonia there are few signs to Pécs. and one "Lenti-syndrom" - at D28 in Koprivnica there are Berzence signs :lol: can somebody post signs with written Croatian destinations in Hungary? x-type March 29th, 2007, 05:50 PM only Lenti :lol: where did you just find it? :D in Croatia Budapest signs start at Zagreb bypass and continue all way the A4. there also might be sign to Barcs at A3 at exits Kutina and Okučani, i'm not sure, but on D45 and D5 you can find Barcs signs. and in Slavonia there are few signs to Pécs. and one "Lenti-syndrom" - at D28 in Koprivnica there are Berzence signs :lol: can somebody post signs with written Croatian destinations in Hungary? BL March 29th, 2007, 06:05 PM In okucani there is no sign for Hungary it barely has for bosnia which is 9km away:) BL March 29th, 2007, 06:05 PM In okucani there is no sign for Hungary it barely has for bosnia which is 9km away:) Qtya March 31st, 2007, 01:27 AM The northern section of M6 highway with the connection of the M0 beltway is more then a year behind schedule... http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/5167/im000020ox9.jpg (http://imageshack.us) The almost finished highway ends here... http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/6770/im000015fq7.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/1258/im000017dm2.jpg (http://imageshack.us) The highway is missing under and after the overpass ... http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/2469/im000016dn5.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/1531/im000014fg7.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img489.imageshack.us/img489/9738/im000025ah6.jpg (http://imageshack.us) After the overpass therre are still buildings needed to be demolished... http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/2427/im000018ap2.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/734/im000022vx0.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/1543/im000024cp4.jpg (http://imageshack.us) And after about 600 feet, the highway starts again... http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/2834/im000023jc5.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/9233/im000021za8.jpg (http://imageshack.us) Insaine... Its never going to be finished... :gaah: Qtya March 31st, 2007, 01:27 AM The northern section of M6 highway with the connection of the M0 beltway is more then a year behind schedule... http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/5167/im000020ox9.jpg (http://imageshack.us) The almost finished highway ends here... http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/6770/im000015fq7.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/1258/im000017dm2.jpg (http://imageshack.us) The highway is missing under and after the overpass ... http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/2469/im000016dn5.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/1531/im000014fg7.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img489.imageshack.us/img489/9738/im000025ah6.jpg (http://imageshack.us) After the overpass therre are still buildings needed to be demolished... http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/2427/im000018ap2.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/734/im000022vx0.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/1543/im000024cp4.jpg (http://imageshack.us) And after about 600 feet, the highway starts again... http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/2834/im000023jc5.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/9233/im000021za8.jpg (http://imageshack.us) Insaine... Its never going to be finished... :gaah: Bikes March 31st, 2007, 02:13 AM Thats pathetic indeed, maybe we should follow the Chinese commie style.... :D Bikes March 31st, 2007, 02:13 AM Thats pathetic indeed, maybe we should follow the Chinese commie style.... :D Qtya April 2nd, 2007, 01:01 PM On Saturday, finally the last element of the Köröshegy Viaduct was installed into the framework ! :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: Photo from daily newspaper, Magyar Nemzet: http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/2897/beolvass0001nz1.jpg (http://imageshack.us) I'll visit the construction site next Tuesday! Qtya April 2nd, 2007, 01:01 PM On Saturday, finally the last element of the Köröshegy Viaduct was installed into the framework ! :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: Photo from daily newspaper, Magyar Nemzet: http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/2897/beolvass0001nz1.jpg (http://imageshack.us) I'll visit the construction site next Tuesday! Qtya April 4th, 2007, 04:25 PM Bikes! Is there any way to copy this thread to the Infrastructure and Mobility World Forum? And in that, to the Highways & Autobahns sub-forum? Qtya April 4th, 2007, 04:25 PM Bikes! Is there any way to copy this thread to the Infrastructure and Mobility World Forum? And in that, to the Highways & Autobahns sub-forum? Bikes April 4th, 2007, 07:22 PM Im sure there is, but you would need to contact a mod! Bikes April 4th, 2007, 07:22 PM Im sure there is, but you would need to contact a mod! Verso April 6th, 2007, 10:12 PM Boo! :D Now you're at the top of the page! :D Btw, which thread should we use? :lol: Qtya April 9th, 2007, 11:16 PM Some photos I've shot today on the 44th Main road between the beautiful border town, Gyula and Békés county's capital Békéscsaba. Its not clear, that this newly built section will be part of the promised M44 Motorway connecting the romanian border at Gyula with the city of Kecskemét at the M5 Motorway, or not. But anyway I'll post these photos. On the way to Békéscsaba... Damn bugs... :mad2: But I killed so many! :nocrook: http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/3984/im000023qe0.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/8065/im000024sj6.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/318/im000025cx6.jpg (http://imageshack.us) Bus-stop and underpass for bikers and pedestrians: http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/8881/im000026zr7.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/1251/im000027vi7.jpg (http://imageshack.us) "I'm on the road again..." :lol: :nuts: http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/1112/im000028vo4.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/8837/im000030ix1.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/9525/im000031ji2.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/7725/im000032gn5.jpg (http://imageshack.us) Another bus-stop and underpass: http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/985/im000033le9.jpg (http://imageshack.us) No way this section will be part of the M44... http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/7311/im000034ok1.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/8777/im000035ld5.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/148/im000036dp5.jpg (http://imageshack.us) Arriving to Békéscsaba... http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/8343/im000002gz8.jpg (http://imageshack.us) Heading back to Gyula... http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/443/im000003yu7.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/6933/im000004ev4.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/8730/im000005cd8.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/1610/im000009vh7.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/1003/im000011ew8.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/3645/im000012sc8.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/7730/im000013nb8.jpg (http://imageshack.us) The beautiful little town of Gyula! http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/3098/im000014kz3.jpg (http://imageshack.us) Qtya April 9th, 2007, 11:35 PM Photos of the U/C northern section of the M0 beltway around the Hungarian capital, Budapest: http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/4687/im000015ze4.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/1472/im000016ym2.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/2581/im000017zd8.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/6474/im000018kg8.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/703/im000019mp2.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/4739/im0000201zf3.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/3584/im000021hi8.jpg (http://imageshack.us) ChrisZwolle April 10th, 2007, 12:02 PM That's quite some distance to Bucuresti! (Bucharest) Verso April 10th, 2007, 02:32 PM ^^ And even more time. :lol: Nice pix btw, I'm surprised that number 44 road is 4-laned, cool! Qtya April 10th, 2007, 04:37 PM Photo updates on the M7 Viaduct at Köröshegy: http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/9421/im000054bi7.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/3504/im000055en0.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/2842/im000056yl4.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/2397/im000058na6.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/3830/im000061gf8.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/6256/im000062zx1.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/2734/im000060xv2.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/8247/im000063ej0.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/5442/im000025yz5.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/3357/im000027go2.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/4856/im000066by6.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/9620/im000067ue4.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/4127/im000068hc1.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/888/im000069gj6.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/3442/im000070gx5.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/7050/im000073qu3.jpg (http://imageshack.us) I'm faaaalllliiinnngggggg.... :lol: http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/4548/im000071ve6.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/5600/im000072is5.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/8643/im000074fk3.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/5577/im000075qo2.jpg (http://imageshack.us) Huge landworks are goin' on... http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/428/im000064lp0.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/6196/im000065wg0.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/6818/im000076fw5.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/3007/im000009mg8.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/3707/im000003qt0.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/7510/im000079pp2.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/7733/im000086kz1.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/5631/im000001yg3.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/9615/im00000502tv5.jpg (http://imageshack.us) :hug: http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/541/im00000702ul3.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/4038/im000080ej4.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/9379/im000087qf9.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/8898/im000088wk7.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/540/im000081db4.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/3131/im000082vp3.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/125/im000083he5.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/8997/im000084gq1.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/1985/im000085ed8.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/7923/im000078cf9.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/5067/im000077so3.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/9174/im000013gz7.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/5471/im000015qv3.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/6219/im000017rr8.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/5224/im000019xj9.jpg (http://imageshack.us) Lake Balaton... The Hungarian "sea"... http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/1/im000021zw1.jpg (http://imageshack.us) Huhh... I've made it... :lol: http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/5627/im00003501tv3.jpg (http://imageshack.us) ChrisZwolle April 10th, 2007, 04:49 PM That is some nice viaduct! Great report, appreciated much! Verso April 10th, 2007, 05:09 PM Awesome viaduct! :okay: You ran out of gas? :D Nyuszi April 11th, 2007, 10:00 AM Hy Guys! Nice pics! Are there any information about the Hungarian-Croatian border crossing with the bridge over the Mura river? Could someone post pics? x-type April 11th, 2007, 03:10 PM Are there any information about the Hungarian-Croatian border crossing with the bridge over the Mura river? Could someone post pics? it is not done yet, only the old one is still in function. you can see it very nice on Google Earth, that part is high detailed! btw, are there any other viaducts u/c or built in Hungary except Köröshegy? Qtya April 11th, 2007, 06:21 PM No, not this size... Just much smaller ones! Qtya April 20th, 2007, 09:00 PM Governmental decision: There won't be any (4) tunnels on the M6 highway Szekszárd – Bóly section due to budget cutbacks... :puke: http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/2654/alagtef7.png (http://imageshack.us) hkskyline April 22nd, 2007, 06:37 AM Rabbits run riot on Hungarian highway BUDAPEST, April 16, 2007 (AFP) - Thousands of rabbits had Hungarian police and firefighters on the hop early Monday when they escaped on to a key motorway following an accident. Police said nearly 5,000 rabbits were on the loose around the M1 highway linking the capital Budapest to the Austrian border after an accident involving the truck that was transporting them. Traffic had to be diverted to a secondary road, a police spokeswoman said. DanielFigFoz April 22nd, 2007, 10:36 AM :lol: x-type April 22nd, 2007, 11:26 AM i heard that a boar got lost near Barcelona last week (i guess at AP7), he was confused, running among the cars, but somehow he found orientation and run back to a wood. it was quite messy ChrisZwolle April 22nd, 2007, 01:12 PM that news is quite old. I heard most rabbits weren't running around all time, but just sitting on the asphalt enjoying the sunshine. :) hkskyline April 22nd, 2007, 06:12 PM i heard that a boar got lost near Barcelona last week (i guess at AP7), he was confused, running among the cars, but somehow he found orientation and run back to a wood. it was quite messy Posted on: Friday, 20 April 2007, 00:00 CDT Wild Boar Shuts Down Spanish Highway MADRID, Spain - A wild boar trapped in the middle of a major highway halted traffic for about 15 minutes outside Barcelona on Thursday, police said. "The animal was disoriented and did not know how to leave from where it was," said Sonia Gonzalez of the Catalonia Traffic Service. Police were prepared to shoot the boar but it ran away. The incident created a two-mile jam on a stretch of urban highway that is not far from a mountain range. Cows and ducks have previously wandered onto the road, Gonzalez said. Source: Associated Press/AP Online Qtya April 23rd, 2007, 11:30 PM This chart shows the u/c and planned (already approved) motorway and expressway sections of Hungary. Autópálya = Motorway Autóút = Expressway http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/7718/terveksz3.png (http://imageshack.us) ChrisZwolle April 23rd, 2007, 11:34 PM Thanks for posting! Qtya April 23rd, 2007, 11:51 PM With this map, You guys can imagine it easier. http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/6594/autplykdq3.png (http://imageshack.us) mgk920 April 24th, 2007, 05:57 AM Governmental decision: There won't be any (4) tunnels on the M6 highway Szekszárd – Bóly section due to budget cutbacks... Does this mean that the highway will instead be re-engineered with a slightly realigned routing and deep cuts? Mike Qtya April 25th, 2007, 04:43 PM Does this mean that the highway will instead be re-engineered with a slightly realigned routing and deep cuts? Mike Yupp! You are right, Mate! This miserable idea will totally ruin the today beautful, untouched landscape... :bash: Qtya May 1st, 2007, 06:23 PM Last time I've missed to make some photos from the Viaduct, of lake Balaton! The scenery is amazing... Today I've taken two of my cousins to the site, and I made some with my mobile phone... You can see the, first layer of bitumen is already laid. http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/976/spa0277cl0.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/8477/spa0278te6.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/542/spa0286ff1.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/2750/spa0282ga2.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/4544/spa0283lj7.jpg (http://imageshack.us) Ohh sh*t! Its deep! :lol: http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/8459/spa0281sj6.jpg (http://imageshack.us) Havin' a great time! :banana: http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/5420/spa0285an7.jpg (http://imageshack.us) x-type May 1st, 2007, 08:55 PM viaduct over Balaton?? where?! when did you start to build it? Qtya May 1st, 2007, 09:07 PM viaduct over Balaton?? where?! when did you start to build it? Misunderstandig... Sorry... So last time I forgot to take some photos of lake Balaton while standing on th M7 Viaduct... BTW Other Hungarian motorway photos comin' up shortly. Qtya May 5th, 2007, 07:18 PM Progress on the M0 ringroad's northern bridge. They are adding the concrete body of the second pair of lanes, and the pillars are finished too... Hopefully a nother 365 days, and we going to have a beautiful new highway bridge... Landworks are on schedule too. Unfortunately noone knows, which way the M0 ringroad will continue, yet... :ohno: http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/8595/spa0319mk8.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/7702/spa0314zl9.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/2581/spa0320zt3.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/6638/spa0316cu4.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/8697/spa0317nw6.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/644/spa0318ia3.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/2495/spa0315us0.jpg (http://imageshack.us) (Photos via mobile phone.) Qtya May 5th, 2007, 07:48 PM Horvát cég építheti az M7-es utolsó szakaszát 2007. május 4. péntek, 08:06 Nyolc pályázó közül a horvát Hidroelektra Niskogradnija tette a legjobb ajánlatot az M7-es utolsó, még hiányzó, a Mura folyó feletti hidat tartalmazó Letenye-országhatár közötti szakaszának megépítésére - tudta meg a Világgazdaság Reményik Kálmántól, a Nemzeti Infrastruktúra Fejlesztő (NIF) Zrt. elnök-vezérigazgatójától. A társaság igazgatósága a horvát céget javasolta a nemzetközi versenytárgyalás győztesének. A végső szót a szaktárca mondja ki, az eredményhirdetés várhatóan május közepén lesz. A közbeszerzés tárgya alól kivett tender (amire a beruházásról szóló kormányközi megállapodás adott lehetőséget) árajánlataiban nagy volt a szórás. A nyertesnek javasolt kivitelező ajánlatában közel nyolcmillió euró szerepel, de volt ennél több mint 50 százalékkal drágább, azaz 12,5 millió eurós ár is. Az egy kilométeres, 2x2 sávos sztrádaberuházásból a híd 216 méter hosszú. A kivitelezési határidő a szerződéskötéstől számított 14 hónap. A projekt jövő évi átadásával az M7-es 44 évvel az első, bal pályaszakaszának átadását követően a határig ér el, teljes hossza 245,3 kilométer lesz - írja a Világgazdaság. A cikket a következő címen érheti el a Menedzsment Fórumon: http://www.mfor.hu/cikk.php?article=35514 Briefly in english: Croatian company Hidroelektra Niskogradnija could finish the last section of the M7 highway because their 8 million Euro tender was the best. They'll have 14 month to finish the 1 km section (216 metre 2*2 laned Mura higway bridge and 800 metre normal highway) after the signing of the contract which will be done this month. So finally in 2008, 44 years after the first landworks the M7 highway is going to be finished with a complete 245,3 kms in lenght.... ChrisZwolle May 5th, 2007, 09:58 PM Wow i didn't know the M7 was planned that long ago! M3_SoutheastMelb May 6th, 2007, 03:45 AM Progress on the M0 ringroad's northern bridge. They are adding the concrete body of the second pair of lanes, and the pillars are finished too... Hopefully a nother 365 days, and we going to have a beautiful new highway bridge... Landworks are on schedule too. Unfortunately noone knows, which way the M0 ringroad will continue, yet... :ohno: http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/8595/spa0319mk8.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/7702/spa0314zl9.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/2581/spa0320zt3.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/6638/spa0316cu4.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/8697/spa0317nw6.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/644/spa0318ia3.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/2495/spa0315us0.jpg (http://imageshack.us) (Photos via mobile phone.) miyen Hoszu ez a hid? Jean Luc May 6th, 2007, 11:53 AM Qtya: Great shots there in posts 207 & 210. Just wondering, how were you able to gain access to a construction site? Wouldn't it be closed off to the public for safety reasons? Aren't they concerned about being sued if someone is hurt, or even killed on the site? M3_SoutheastMelb May 6th, 2007, 01:55 PM Governmental decision: There won't be any (4) tunnels on the M6 highway Szekszárd – Bóly section due to budget cutbacks... :puke: http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/2654/alagtef7.png (http://imageshack.us) akkor most hogy-on fogjak a dombokon keresztul epiteni? inten-is minden jo dolgot bele baszak a szemet kuka-ban. Egytszer Akartak epiteni Mildura-nal egy 1km magas solar-tornyot de persze meg let szunve az egesz otlet :bash: Qtya May 6th, 2007, 03:34 PM miyen Hoszu ez a hid? The planned bridge: http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/5030/m01jd6.jpg http://img457.imageshack.us/img457/246/m02uk4.jpg http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/4513/m0hidja9.jpg Az egész híd meder híddal, ártéri hidakkal együtt összesen 3,2 km hosszú lesz! Qtya May 6th, 2007, 03:39 PM akkor most hogy-on fogjak a dombokon keresztul epiteni? inten-is minden jo dolgot bele baszak a szemet kuka-ban. Egytszer Akartak epiteni Mildura-nal egy 1km magas solar-tornyot de persze meg let szunve az egesz otlet :bash: Nagyon Örülök, hogy magyarul írsz, bár angolul is megérteném! :) Hogyan fogják építeni? A Gyúrcsány-kormány természetesen csak rombolni tud... Át a dombokon és erdőkön... Qtya May 6th, 2007, 03:41 PM Qtya: Great shots there in posts 207 & 210. Just wondering, how were you able to gain access to a construction site? Wouldn't it be closed off to the public for safety reasons? Aren't they concerned about being sued if someone is hurt, or even killed on the site? Thank You! You are right, the site is closed off to public, but its only the question of communication and I'm a transportation engineer... Qtya May 7th, 2007, 06:25 PM btw, are there any other viaducts u/c or built in Hungary except Köröshegy? Governmental decision that the M6-M60 highway from Dunaújváros to Pécs must be finished by March of 2010, so works are going to/must start this fall. Interesting info, that between Szekszárd and Pécs (79 kms), developers must build 9 different size viaducts. This means the Viaduct at Köröshegy on the M7 highway won't be the only highway viaduct in Hungary! Summary only in Hungarian: http://index.hu/gazdasag/magyar/m660070322/ Qtya May 7th, 2007, 08:40 PM The U/C M0-M6 inner city connection Data: 8,5 kms 4 intersections (onw of them with 3 levels) 29(!!!) overpasses 41 billion Forints (apx 164 million Euros) Completion: 2008 fall http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/1442/11du3.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/4751/22di5.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/1743/33ka9.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/4061/44cg5.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/7536/55mg6.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/9978/66ed9.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/1921/77vo8.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/7629/88vf9.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/7761/99lo6.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/4441/1010hv9.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/2449/1111ak7.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/3295/1212fl9.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/848/1313gq7.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/5771/1414nd9.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/8489/m0m61vl2.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/6597/m0m621cp9.jpg (http://imageshack.us) Nyuszi May 9th, 2007, 12:02 PM :lol: ASAP, IMO, LOL, BTW, WTF, ...etc... :lol: We are pretty cool Guys! My personal favorite is DUI! :lol: Qtya May 14th, 2007, 11:31 PM I've taken some pics of the M3 - M0 highways on my way to Újpest... Where all begins, first metres of the M3 highway heading east towards cities like Miskolc, Debrecen and Nyíregyháza, ending (in the future) at the ukrainien border... http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/8081/im000002bp6.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/1381/im000004an7.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/3141/im000006gh3.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img478.imageshack.us/img478/9010/im000008uy4.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/7042/im000010ml8.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/9195/im000012zb2.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/8739/im000014ex3.jpg (http://imageshack.us) The u/c intersection of the M0. This is where the northern section starts and the eastern will join in when finished in December... http://img478.imageshack.us/img478/8387/im000016mx1.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img478.imageshack.us/img478/4873/im000020jb1.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/4043/im000022dj2.jpg (http://imageshack.us) Heading west on the M0, towards the Danube... http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/460/im000024il6.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/6146/im000026oy8.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/8880/im000030yq8.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/5273/im000032um0.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/5356/im000034ek6.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/7709/im000036vl3.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/1953/im000038gz9.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/8277/im000039fz9.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/9581/im000041dd9.jpg (http://imageshack.us) The new u/c northern Danube highway bridge and the 3,2 kms highway... http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/3246/im000042jg3.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/448/im000043ox4.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/6804/im000044cu6.jpg (http://imageshack.us) Observation office of the U/C northern Danube highway bridge... http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/8084/im000046dj0.jpg (http://imageshack.us) Long way to walk... http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/8198/im000047ss4.jpg (http://imageshack.us) Still walking... http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/5207/im000048so8.jpg (http://imageshack.us) Almost there... :lol: http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/972/im000050bt7.jpg (http://imageshack.us) The observation center on the Danube... http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/7262/im000057eg0.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/290/im000058gs5.jpg (http://imageshack.us) Our new U/C Danube bridge... http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/9498/im000060lo2.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/8505/im000062dn5.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/2192/im000063la1.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/9030/im000059qk0.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/7057/im000051ca3.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/5473/im000052ka9.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/869/im000053mr4.jpg (http://imageshack.us) Pics from the land when I finally got back from the boat... http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/8716/im000068pc6.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/989/im000075hf5.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/9884/im000069cl3.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/5237/im000070jt6.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/2585/im000076to0.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/1589/im000071nj6.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/6792/im000072em1.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/313/im000073ju7.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/9561/im000074qt7.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/4928/im000075rp9.jpg (http://imageshack.us) Qtya May 14th, 2007, 11:36 PM Our future bridge... http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/1466/im000064ir0.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/9110/im000065qm3.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/6784/im000066bn1.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/899/im000067kg8.jpg (http://imageshack.us) Qtya May 16th, 2007, 04:57 PM F**ck... Totally miserable photos, sorry! I accidentally changed the settings of my mobile phone's camera... :ohno: :gaah: :wallbash: Outcome... Small pics... :ohno: Anyway! I give You the new Danube bridge of the slowly developing M8 highway at Dunaújváros... http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/9303/spa0375ei8.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/7815/spa0377qr3.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/513/spa0378jk9.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/1066/spa0379if0.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/5273/spa0380ad6.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/4373/spa0381cm5.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/4469/spa0382ws4.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/9185/spa0383ur5.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img466.imageshack.us/img466/4065/spa0384ty8.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/789/spa0385ms2.jpg (http://imageshack.us) The highway connection between Main road 51 and the M6 highway is almost finished. Opening ceremony on the 30th of June, this summer. http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/9109/spa0388gi7.jpg (http://imageshack.us) Verso May 16th, 2007, 07:18 PM Nice pix! Qtya, as you live in Budapest, could you please take photos of the M1 and M7 motorways, where they are united? I'd be extremely happy to see Ljubljana on those signs there. :D Qtya May 16th, 2007, 07:28 PM Nice pix! Qtya, as you live in Budapest, could you please take photos of the M1 and M7 motorways, where they are united? I'd be extremely happy to see Ljubljana on those signs there. :D Ok! I hope tomorrow I'll have time... Verso May 16th, 2007, 07:41 PM ^ Thanks! ;) Qtya May 17th, 2007, 12:15 AM I just found an official home-page about the u/c northern Danube bridge... Even in english too... Check it out, if you want: www.eszaki-hid.hu ChrisZwolle May 17th, 2007, 12:18 AM I like this bridge. It has a great appearance. I hope the emergency lanes are wide enough to eventually rebuild it to a 2x4 configuration. Budapest is big, and i might generate much more traffic in the future than is calculated now. I see these problems all the time in my country. Qtya May 17th, 2007, 12:37 AM I like this bridge. It has a great appearance. I hope the emergency lanes are wide enough to eventually rebuild it to a 2x4 configuration. Budapest is big, and i might generate much more traffic in the future than is calculated now. I see these problems all the time in my country. Logic statement... The M0 beltway around Budapest is finished on the southern side, but it was designed to be a 2*2 expressway. Today its totally out of date, and its called the biggest parking-lot of Hungary. This part of the M0 couldn't be extended, so our government decided to build a new modern highway with 2*3+emergency lanes on 7 kms between Main road 51and M5 highway,a new southern Danube bridge will connect this new section of highway to the today operational but in the future extended (2*2 ->2*3 lanes) part of the M0 between M1 highway and the Danube river. I don't really have any idea what will happen to the current lanes though... Constructions planed to start in the fall of 2008, or the spring of 2009. SO WE WILL HAVE ONCE AGAIN A NEW DANUBE BRIDGE!!! BA May 17th, 2007, 10:49 PM Rendering fotos of M43 bridge, near Szeged, above Tisza river A new extrodused bridge in Hungary http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/241/b2000797pk1.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/4258/b2000799pw5.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/8277/b2000800xn9.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/7009/b2000801or5.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/4766/b2000802cd7.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/886/b2001248fl4.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/3320/b2000803rt8.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/6602/b2000805yr3.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/5650/b2000807ii1.jpg (http://imageshack.us) ChrisZwolle May 17th, 2007, 10:53 PM fabulous! You Hungarians know what bridge building is. We build bridges on such a way that you can't even see you driving on one.. like this (http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afbeelding:RINGZwolle2_060.jpg) 600m one in my hometown. Qtya May 18th, 2007, 05:34 PM A new non highway bridge over the Danube at the city of Vác. http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=13237305&postcount=291 BA May 18th, 2007, 08:44 PM The new motorway bridge of Esztergom. 8 versions of the competition. The winner is the first plan. http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/2079/01vo3.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/9632/02ya8.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/8826/03gi8.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/7654/04fu2.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/5598/05fj3.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/3435/06gg2.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/6342/07bf8.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/1642/08nd0.jpg (http://imageshack.us) ChrisZwolle May 18th, 2007, 09:24 PM I like the 3rd last. Really big and impressive. pilotos May 18th, 2007, 11:22 PM I am between the 1st and the third, hard to choose:( All of em are pretty good though :) Qtya May 19th, 2007, 11:32 AM Super-cool post BA! :cheers: I had no idea, Esztergom will have a motorway connection! When are they going to start building the bridge? Qtya May 19th, 2007, 12:08 PM On the way home I made some pics... Btw Budapest is f**kin' HORRIBLE! :puke: IT TOOK ME 90 MINUTES ON A SATURDAY MORNING TO GET HOME FROM THE NÉPLIGET(Without my short visit to the constructuoin site.)!!!! ITS INSAINE!!! Anyway here are the photos (via mobile phone): http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/1695/spa0400db7.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/4639/spa0397ni8.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/2169/spa0398oj1.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/8901/spa0399gl8.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/8600/spa0401gj1.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/3203/spa0402rv0.jpg (http://imageshack.us) Shortcut to the other end of the construction site... :lol: http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/8654/spa0403mr4.jpg (http://imageshack.us) Landworks... http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/1568/spa0404ar4.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/6726/spa0405ua4.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/2142/spa0406qf4.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/1339/spa0407nq7.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/2391/spa0408ue4.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/5742/spa0409fs2.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/2025/spa0410fc2.jpg (http://imageshack.us) ChrisZwolle May 19th, 2007, 12:49 PM Yeah Budapest needs a ringroad badly. The city is huge, and i think i might take a lot of time travelling from the M1 to M3 without a ringroad. Qtya May 20th, 2007, 11:19 PM Nice pix! Qtya, as you live in Budapest, could you please take photos of the M1 and M7 motorways, where they are united? I'd be extremely happy to see Ljubljana on those signs there. :D I tried my best to fulfill my promise. All the signs from the M1-M7 common section. Unfortunately the quality is not really good. Photos taken via mobile phone... As You'll see Ljubljana isn't shown on the traffic signs, only SLO. First Ljubljana is shown about 22 kms from Budapest on the M7. http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/8328/spa0432fq8.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/4161/spa0433di8.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/7696/spa0434jw6.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/6603/spa0435jz0.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/8280/spa0436to3.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img459.imageshack.us/img459/439/spa0437cz6.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/9809/spa0438zg6.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/2566/spa0439up8.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/153/spa0440xp8.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/4236/spa0441tj7.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/1548/spa0442ra9.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/4696/spa0444io8.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/1328/spa0445np4.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/1226/spa0446mx9.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/3374/spa0447ry4.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/392/spa0448uy9.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/307/spa0449bg3.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/4485/spa0450pi8.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/5117/spa0451ep8.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/3509/spa0452lf6.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/6831/spa0453yo5.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/3764/spa0454ee6.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/2877/spa0455dy2.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/5835/spa0456cg7.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/2900/spa0457si3.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/9351/spa0458wd1.jpg (http://imageshack.us) Cool car... http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/3735/spa0459ic0.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/6880/spa0460gf4.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/585/spa0461kf0.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/4723/spa0462tr2.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/9080/spa0463qv1.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/6016/spa0464ax7.jpg (http://imageshack.us) Huhh... That was a lot... :lol: x-type May 21st, 2007, 01:27 AM why don't you say Lyublyána? :D Verso May 21st, 2007, 02:19 AM ^ :hilarious Oh, Qtya :hug: man, I love you! :D :happy: Ljubljana - 447 km! Ö Ö Ö Ö Ö Ö Ö Ö Ö Ö http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/3764/spa0454ee6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)That's the greatest distance for Ljubljana by far! We rock! :D The only Slovenian reciprocity I can offer you, is Lenti (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=12472000&postcount=80). :D :no: Qtya May 21st, 2007, 08:31 AM why don't you say Lyublyána? :D It would probably look like this, if we'd pronunce it like Your proposal: Jubjána :lol: Verso May 21st, 2007, 02:01 PM ^ Oh, boy. :lol: Don't you put accent on "u" anyway? Like Ljúbljana? I mean, not written form, only the pronunciation. x-type May 21st, 2007, 03:17 PM ^ Oh, boy. :lol: Don't you put accent on "u" anyway? Like Ljúbljana? I mean, not written form, only the pronunciation. that "accent" doesn't mean real accent, that means lenght. and it is not neccessary because in hungarian the first sylable is allways stressed. ´ should come to first "a". so, Lyublyána would be read something like "Ljúbljano". as far as i know, á is never at the end of the word (i'm not sure, but i think so). Verso May 21st, 2007, 03:25 PM ^ I said NOT written form, but pronunciation! So, the accent is on "u" (Ljúbljana - pronunciation!). Actually I'm sure about it, b/c we have that Hungarian TV program on TV Slovenia, and I've already heard the pronunciation of Ljubljana a few times. :D (Ljuuuuuuuubljana:D:D) x-type May 21st, 2007, 04:08 PM sorry, you know that i never read posts till end :D gosh, i like hungarian language!! ChrisZwolle May 21st, 2007, 04:40 PM Hungarian, Slovenian, it all looks like Chinese to me ;) Verso May 21st, 2007, 06:46 PM ^ Which, the Mandarin or some other? :D Qtya May 21st, 2007, 07:01 PM In pronunciation we don't say ú, just simple u. I have no idea how you could heard it differently... We, and most of all myself have trubble with Lj... But the u is not strong. Verso May 21st, 2007, 07:05 PM ^ I was just having in mind that the accent is on "u", b/c in Slovenian the accent is on the first "a". :) Nyuszi May 23rd, 2007, 09:44 AM You can check out the Hungarian Motorways thread in th CE forums for farther info: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=389944&page=16 http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=389944&page=17 Qtya June 9th, 2007, 06:24 PM At the moment security spoted the car, they started to hurry towards me, so I could only take this photo of the first steel element built in the new northern M0 bridge... http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/8939/im000099lx8.jpg (http://imageshack.us) Qtya June 10th, 2007, 11:44 AM Lol. It's really funny that they don't want anybody to take pictures of it. I mean it's not like giving away secret information or whatever. Good luck Qtya with avoiding security guards!:) No need to fear for me! I'm much quicker, smarter, trickier and last but not least prettier than the guards... :lol: Naturaly just kidding... :lol: Anyway some pics of the u/c M0-Main road 11 interchange... THEY ARE LAYING THE FIRST LAYER OF THE FINAL BITUMEN MORE THAN 15 MONTHS BEFORE COMPLETION!!! LETS DANCE!!! :banana: :carrot: :D :dance: :pepper: :clown: :dj: :applause: :cucumber: :naughty: :rock: :master: :hammer: :cheer: :righton: :horse: :drunk: :nocrook: :llama: (it has a reason though) Pics: http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/2232/im000101fk8.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/9999/im000102su4.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/8762/im000103eu0.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/166/im000104zg2.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/7953/im000105dj7.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/4918/im000107kk2.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/4517/im000109am2.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/8245/im000110es1.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/1179/im000111wt9.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/1838/im000112al8.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/3453/im000113xu0.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/3733/im000114lh9.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/8553/im000115ml5.jpg (http://imageshack.us) radi6404 June 10th, 2007, 03:18 PM Hungarian, Slovenian, it all looks like Chinese to me ;) I don´t know what all these accent letters mean at all. Alex Von Königsberg June 10th, 2007, 10:08 PM It is because Hungarian language belongs to a completely different family that includes Estonian and Finnish. Slavic speakers such as myself cannot understand Hungarian at all. Phonetically, I believe, those accented vowels are pronounced in the same way as German letters. Verso June 11th, 2007, 12:42 AM Ő :D Qtya June 13th, 2007, 07:07 PM Nice pix! Qtya, as you live in Budapest, could you please take photos of the M1 and M7 motorways, where they are united? I'd be extremely happy to see Ljubljana on those signs there. :D Verso! Today about 01:00 I was driving home from Kiskunfélegyháza on the M5, and apx 20 kms south of Budapest a sign showed SLO too... :lol: x-type June 13th, 2007, 09:34 PM :lol: :lol: Verso June 13th, 2007, 10:53 PM Hmm, at the interchange with the M0? How about A, SK and HR, as well? Nyuszi June 19th, 2007, 06:49 PM Why does the M0 and at the roundabout of the Cora? How it will continue?!?! I don't understand... :ohno: Photo from today's local Metro: http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/6117/beolvass0018wi6.jpg (http://imageshack.us) Nyuszi June 19th, 2007, 06:51 PM Hmm, at the interchange with the M0? How about A, SK and HR, as well? If Qtya isn't planning on answering, than I will... I saw the same sign at on the M5, and yes it's at the interchange with the recently finished M0 section, and You are right A, SK, and HR is shown as well as SLO. Qtya June 19th, 2007, 07:40 PM Why does the M0 and at the roundabout of the Cora? How it will continue?!?! I don't understand... :ohno: Photo from today's local Metro: http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/6117/beolvass0018wi6.jpg (http://imageshack.us) Thank You Nyuszi! Now it must be a 3 level interchange, and the motorway will continue somewhere between the Omszki lake, and the sports hall... Or between the sportshall and the Electroworld... Both solutions are weird... Verso June 19th, 2007, 09:12 PM If Qtya isn't planning on answering, than I will... I saw the same sign at on the M5, and yes it's at the interchange with the recently finished M0 section, and You are right A, SK, and HR is shown as well as SLO.Great. :D But, M5 and M0 have been intersecting each other for a long time! :? wyqtor June 19th, 2007, 11:41 PM I read somewhere that apparently they're building a new M0 2x3 parallel to the old one, it is needed because the old one is only 2x2 and the lanes are VERY narrow - that would mean an interchange between NEW M0 and M5 - I saw some serious works this spring but didn't know exactly what was going on. Maybe our Hungarian friends could clarify the situation for us, because personally I'm a bit confused regarding this new M0 :nuts: ... Perhaps it would have been wiser to give a different name to the new motorway. Qtya June 19th, 2007, 11:44 PM Great. :D But, M5 and M0 have been intersecting each other for a long time! :? Yes, and no! There is a new intersection to the south of the earlier one, where the new M0 section between Main road 4 and the M5 joins in. From this new interchange will start the rebuilt and extended southern M0 section between M5 and Main road 51. Qtya June 19th, 2007, 11:46 PM I read somewhere that apparently they're building a new M0 2x3 parallel to the old one, it is needed because the old one is only 2x2 and the lanes are VERY narrow - that would mean an interchange between NEW M0 and M5 - I saw some serious works this spring but didn't know exactly what was going on. Maybe our Hungarian friends could clarify the situation for us, because personally I'm a bit confused regarding this new M0 :nuts: ... Perhaps it would have been wiser to give a different name to the new motorway. The new section is just few kms... So no need to rename it... :) Verso June 19th, 2007, 11:59 PM Yes, and no! There is a new intersection to the south of the earlier one, where the new M0 section between Main road 4 and the M5 joins in. From this new interchange will start the rebuilt and extended southern M0 section between M5 and Main road 51.Oh, now I see! Thanks! :okay: Qtya June 19th, 2007, 11:59 PM I read somewhere that apparently they're building a new M0 2x3 parallel to the old one, it is needed because the old one is only 2x2 and the lanes are VERY narrow - that would mean an interchange between NEW M0 and M5 - I saw some serious works this spring but didn't know exactly what was going on. Maybe our Hungarian friends could clarify the situation for us, because personally I'm a bit confused regarding this new M0 :nuts: ... Perhaps it would have been wiser to give a different name to the new motorway. Earlier post from me: As You know the M0 beltway around Budapest is finished on the southern side, but it was designed to be a 2*2 expressway. Today its totally out of date, and as Bikes likes to call it, the biggest parking-lot of Hungary. This part of the M0 couldn't be extended, so our government decided to build a new modern highway with 2*3+emergency lanes on 7 kms between Main road 51 and M5 highway,a new southern Danube bridge will connect this new section of highway to the today operational but in the future extended (2*2 ->2*3 lanes) part of the M0 between M1 highway and the Danube river. I don't really have any idea what will happen to the current lanes though... Constructions planed to start in the fall of 2008, or the spring of 2009. SO WE WILL HAVE ONCE AGAIN A NEW DANUBE BRIDGE!!! Verso June 20th, 2007, 12:07 AM I know the western part of the M0 was built about 10 years ago. How about the eastern part of it? That one is older. Qtya June 20th, 2007, 12:18 AM I know the western part of the M0 was built about 10 years ago. How about the eastern part of it? That one is older. http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/6109/m0trkpcn9.jpg Ok... Western section of the M0: Main road 11-M1-M6 Southern: M6-M5 Eastern: M5-Main road 4-M3 Northern: M3 - Main road 11 Eastern section between M5 and Main road 4 was finished last year. The other part from Main road 4 untill M3 will be finished spring or mid 2008. Verso June 20th, 2007, 02:58 AM ^^ Lol, no! :laugh: I meant the western part of the southern (existing) part. :D I mean, between M1 and main road 51, or somewhere there (and I mean the existing M0, not its new variant). This one was built about 10 years ago, whereas east of that (I mean only to M5! but the old part of the M0!) was built earlier. When? :) Qtya June 20th, 2007, 08:00 AM ^^ Lol, no! :laugh: I meant the western part of the southern (existing) part. :D I mean, between M1 and main road 51, or somewhere there (and I mean the existing M0, not its new variant). This one was built about 10 years ago, whereas east of that (I mean only to M5! but the old part of the M0!) was built earlier. When? :) 1988: M5-Main road 51 1990: Main road 51 - Main road 6 (NOT M6) 1996: Main road 6 - M7 - M1 1998: M3 - Main road 2 2005: M5 - Main road 4 Today M0 is not continous at the M5. From the new interchange you have to drive few kms on the M5 motorway to get to the old interchange. http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/1386/m0trkpxw6.jpg (http://imageshack.us) Verso June 20th, 2007, 02:40 PM ^^ Thanks! And yes, I meant the main road 6, not 51, although as I can see, also this road was a "border" between 1988 and 1990, I didn't know that. I looked here (http://www.nart.hu/), and when I clicked "Idővonal", it showed the entire section of the M0 between M5 and M1 was opened in 1994, which I knew it couldn't be true. Also this date seemed unreal to me as I was there in 1996 (in summer) and don't remember M0 intersecting M7. But it was already open when I was there in 1998. Anyway, thanks again! Nyuszi June 25th, 2007, 11:47 PM Deleted Qtya June 25th, 2007, 11:51 PM Driving home on the M7... I hope the opposite lanes will be extended to 3 like this side some day in the near future... The M7 from Székesfehérvár: http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/2462/spa0539bm9.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/6389/spa0540fq0.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/5706/spa0541kr4.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/5856/spa0542dy2.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/34/spa0543fz9.jpg (http://imageshack.us) (Photos taken via mobile phone.) BTW: Opening ceremony of the Köröshegy viaduct: 2007.08.14.!!! The highway parts are completed already, only the viaduct needs its final layer... ChrisZwolle June 26th, 2007, 01:26 AM The overhead construction (not the sign) looks German. threelaned motorways are sexy ;) RKC July 4th, 2007, 11:09 AM Why does the M0 and at the roundabout of the Cora? How it will continue?!?! I don't understand... :ohno: Photo from today's local Metro: http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/6117/beolvass0018wi6.jpg (http://imageshack.us) the picture is huge so here's the link, oh and hello motorway freaks :) www.nowsound.hu/eq2/mways/m04.jpg RKC July 4th, 2007, 11:11 AM there are 4 different vefrsions to this but they only differ in the lenght of the tunnel, they all go in the side of Ezüst hegy (SilverHill) _roadrunner_ July 4th, 2007, 03:31 PM Can I take this nice linked picture to my homepage? :) http://roads.extra.hu Greetings to all of you MisiekSnk July 16th, 2007, 01:54 AM Driving home on the M7... I hope the opposite lanes will be extended to 3 like this side some day in the near future... The M7 from Székesfehérvár: http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/2462/spa0539bm9.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/6389/spa0540fq0.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/5706/spa0541kr4.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/5856/spa0542dy2.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/34/spa0543fz9.jpg (http://imageshack.us) (Photos taken via mobile phone.) BTW: Opening ceremony of the Köröshegy viaduct: 2007.08.14.!!! The highway parts are completed already, only the viaduct needs its final layer... Yeeeeeah, highest class!:) Hungarian brothers have outpaced Polish long ago... igorlan July 16th, 2007, 07:29 PM How many km's of highways do you have in use at present and how many under construction????? BA July 17th, 2007, 12:02 PM How many km's of highways do you have in use at present and how many under construction????? motorway passings in 2007 M8 Dunaújváros, new bridge of Danube (1675m/307m), 5km 2007/08/23 http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/9782/big0002900817co6.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/3995/dsc08393nf4.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/9200/m8651dunahidwp3.jpg (http://imageshack.us) M7 Zamárdi-Balatonszárszó with viaduct of Köröshegy (1872m), 14km 2007/08/08 http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/2776/snipshotd410vr43p1uc2sy7.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/2594/viadukt01qx1.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/970/krshegyiviadukt01kx1.jpg (http://imageshack.us) M7 Nagykanizsa-Sormás, 12km, 2007/08/24 http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/6417/m7nagykanizsabecsehelyye0.jpg (http://imageshack.us) motorway passings in 2008 M7 Balatonszentgyörgy-Nagykanizsa 35km 2008/05 http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/724/m7bkereszturnagykanizsagr2.jpg (http://imageshack.us) M0 from M4 to M3 26,5 km 2008/06 (the yellow) http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/3206/m0abrawh6.jpg (http://imageshack.us) M0 from 2-11 with nort bridge of Danube 3,2 km 2008/08 (the other yellow) http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/286/333si4.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/4161/dscf0002aa3.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/2955/dsc01744tv8.jpg (http://imageshack.us) M6, Érd-Budapest (M0) 7,7km, 2008/09 (maybe) http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/2083/m6erddu6.jpg (http://imageshack.us) under a construction M31, M0-M3, 12 km, 2009 http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/3206/m0abrawh6.jpg (http://imageshack.us) M43, M5-Makó, with new bridge of Tisza, 39km, 2009-2010 http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/6283/m43attekinto3wf0.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/9366/b2000799cz5.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/5883/b2000802av5.jpg (http://imageshack.us) M6, Dunaújváros-Boly, 114km, 2010/03 http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/1424/m6dunaujvarosszekszard2qw6.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/989/m6szekszbly01hk8.jpg (http://imageshack.us) M60, Boly-Pécs 2010/03 30km 2010/03 http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/5936/m6blypcsfi9.jpg (http://imageshack.us) Qtya July 24th, 2007, 09:21 PM Some photos from the openning ceremony of the M8 - Pentele bridge at Dunaújváros Our "beloved" leaders... http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/9195/pentelebridge00le5.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/9453/pentelebridge1cp3.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/1941/pentelebridgepk5.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/5773/pentelebridge2qc7.jpg (http://imageshack.us) BA July 24th, 2007, 09:27 PM [QUOTE=Qtya;14427426]Some photos from the openning ceremony of the M8 - Pentele bridge at Dunaújváros Azért az első képet lehet hogy nem kellett volna feltölteni... Qtya, linkeld át ide is: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=301433 Qtya July 24th, 2007, 10:23 PM [QUOTE=Qtya;14427426]Some photos from the openning ceremony of the M8 - Pentele bridge at Dunaújváros Azért az első képet lehet hogy nem kellett volna feltölteni... Qtya, linkeld át ide is: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=301433 Keményen ott a macskaköröm... :lol: Mateusz July 28th, 2007, 02:32 PM Where is that bridge which is opened today ? On which motorway or expressway is this bridge ? ChrisZwolle July 28th, 2007, 03:06 PM ^^ read the quote in the above post ;) x-type July 28th, 2007, 03:13 PM Dunaújváros. it's a city about 50 km south from Budapest. bridge is a part of future motorway M8 which will run from Austrian border (Heiligenkreuz in Lafnitzal/Rábafüzes (a bordercrossing right east from Graz) - Veszprém - Sárbogard - Dunaújvŕos - Kecskemét - Szolnok) Mateusz July 28th, 2007, 03:34 PM Is this bridge the first object on M8 motorway ? Or some part of M8 is under construction ? x-type July 28th, 2007, 03:55 PM Hungarians will know better, but i think there is some 10 km of motorway built around that bridge and there is also another section near Veszprém built (some 15 km) which will partially be reconstructed. RawLee July 29th, 2007, 09:50 AM Is this bridge the first object on M8 motorway ? Or some part of M8 is under construction ? This bridge was built,because the M6 reached Dunaújváros,and the nearest road bridge is very far. The M8 is a very-very future plan. I think this is the only official part of it. Qtya August 1st, 2007, 05:58 PM A couple of days ago I was back in our beloved Hungary, for the Balaton swimming contest. Shots are from the M7 motorway, heading towards Budapest, from Balatonboglár: http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/9949/im000001dg1.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/6651/im000002iv2.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/5958/im000003pz6.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/2575/im000004fd6.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/8224/im000006zs7.jpg (http://imageshack.us) :ohno: http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/1184/im000008po2.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/7255/im000009hc3.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/148/im000011yx9.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/6051/im000013nc1.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/4435/im000015db2.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/7828/im000016zo5.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/5566/im000017mv0.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/8398/im000018om5.jpg (http://imageshack.us) A sign in Balatonföldvár... "Fare well trucks! 10 days left" http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/6616/im000019ud6.jpg (http://imageshack.us) Qtya August 8th, 2007, 03:49 PM 04.08.2007. M7 viaduct at Köröshegy, opened for the public... http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/8540/im000001qn9.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/9828/im000002jh6.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/8700/im000003eb9.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/3893/im000004aa9.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img362.imageshack.us/img362/1167/im000005zd3.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/1420/im000006gq6.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img470.imageshack.us/img470/1293/im000007el5.jpg (http://imageshack.us) The view... http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/3936/im000008rs2.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/3803/im000012tt8.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/7234/im000013ib0.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/8702/im000015ct8.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/2199/im000017ey3.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/9959/im000019hq9.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/2263/im000023rx7.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/3216/im000024su8.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/3410/im000025mu7.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/7273/im000026zs9.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/3646/im000027gb9.jpg (http://imageshack.us) 08.08.2007. Opening ceremony... (Pics commin' up shortly) Qtya August 8th, 2007, 04:04 PM As You can see there is no real improvment at the u/c northern M0 bridge... I meen on the western side of the Danube. Although the M0-Main road 11 junction is starting to get its shape... (Unfortunately no pics... :ohno: ) But the development is on schedule. Hopefully will be completed by next August. http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/7361/p11000831wv0.jpg (http://imageshack.us) Last day of driving until the 23rd of november, 2007... :fiddle: :skull: :gaah: :cry: :wallbash: Nexis August 8th, 2007, 04:13 PM i'm glad to see Eastern Europe finally get in on extensive Motorway building Excellant Pictures!! amkerekes August 10th, 2007, 01:58 AM The first pics from the opened new E71 M7 section (Zamárdi - Balatonszárszó, with the Kőröshegy viaduct) http://www.panoramio.com/photos/original/3828246.jpg http://www.panoramio.com/photos/original/3828223.jpg http://www.panoramio.com/photos/original/3828263.jpg http://www.panoramio.com/photos/original/3828275.jpg (this is not an accident, just the opening :) ) Qtya August 10th, 2007, 10:55 AM The first pics from the opened new E71 M7 section (Zamárdi - Balatonszárszó, with the Kőröshegy viaduct) http://www.panoramio.com/photos/original/3828246.jpg http://www.panoramio.com/photos/original/3828223.jpg http://www.panoramio.com/photos/original/3828263.jpg http://www.panoramio.com/photos/original/3828275.jpg (this is not an accident, just the opening :) ) Thank You amkerekes! Post Your pics here too: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=389944&page=28 Superkot634 August 10th, 2007, 02:42 PM :applause: :applause: :applause: Hungary:applause: :applause: :applause: wyqtor August 11th, 2007, 09:52 PM Cool pics! :okay: I also made some pics of the 5km M43 (north of Szeged) on my trip, but had to delete them because I didn't have enough space to take pics of the Alps. :ohno: The traffic from Budapest on the M5 towards Romania was chaotic to say the least: full of stupid truck drivers overtaking other trucks and thus creating small traffic jams behind them, crazy Bucharesters driving 200 km/h in order to save time in Hungary (because Romanian national roads are 1+1). The drivers in the West (Austria, Italy, etc) are much more disciplined than ours. At this rate, the motorway will have to be extended to 2x3 very fast. Also, what are the plans for the extension of the M43 towards Romania? Overtaking on road 43 has become practically impossible. I think it would have been much better to continue the M43 from Szeged towards Romania (because we joined the EU, and traffic increased substantially), than towards the Serbian border - even if that would only mean some 20 km. That would be all I need ;) Qtya August 12th, 2007, 03:07 PM Cool pics! :okay: I also made some pics of the 5km M43 (north of Szeged) on my trip, but had to delete them because I didn't have enough space to take pics of the Alps. :ohno: The traffic from Budapest on the M5 towards Romania was chaotic to say the least: full of stupid truck drivers overtaking other trucks and thus creating small traffic jams behind them, crazy Bucharesters driving 200 km/h in order to save time in Hungary (because Romanian national roads are 1+1). The drivers in the West (Austria, Italy, etc) are much more disciplined than ours. At this rate, the motorway will have to be extended to 2x3 very fast. Also, what are the plans for the extension of the M43 towards Romania? Overtaking on road 43 has become practically impossible. I think it would have been much better to continue the M43 from Szeged towards Romania (because we joined the EU, and traffic increased substantially), than towards the Serbian border - even if that would only mean some 20 km. That would be all I need ;) The following developments are based on the EU budget between 2007-2009. And last week were accepted by the government and the EU too. So as You can see really important developments will and has to start this year, but not later by next fall. Here is a part of the list: M0 new 2X3 section between new M0 junction with M5 untill main road 50. M7 Balatonkeresztúr–Nagykanizsa motorway section; M9 expressway, between main road 51. and Main road 54. M43 motorway Szeged – Makó Main road 5. Szeged bypass, III. phase + rail overpass; Main road 47. Békés county section,+ Békéscsaba bypass + Orosháza bypass; Main road 8: 8.sz. főút Székesfehérvár–Veszprém (9+020-11+766 km) strengthen and expand; 8. sz. főút Márkó–Ajka strengthen and expand; 8.sz. főút Ajka–Veszprém strengthen and expand; 8.sz. főút Veszprém–Várpalota,(32+000-57+100 km között) strengthen and expand; Main road 86: 86. sz. főút Körmend–Rédics strengthen and expand; 86. sz. főút (77+800-79+000 km ,around Szombathely ) strengthen and expand (2X2); 86. sz. főút Szombathely–Vát (80+775-89+980 km között) strengthen and expand; 86. sz. főút Szeleste bypass; 86.sz. főút Győr–Moson–Sopron county section, strengthen and expand; Main road 26: M30-26. sz. főút Miskolc bypass; 26. sz. főút Sajószentpéter bypass; 26. sz. Sajószentpéter és Kazincbarcika bypass II. phase; M3 Nyíregyháza–Vásárosnamény (motorway); M6 Dunaújváros–Szekszárd (motorway); M6 Szekszárd–Bóly (motorway); M60 Pécs connection(Pécs–Bóly, motorway); igorlan August 12th, 2007, 05:33 PM What is the total lenght of hungarian motorways??? ChrisZwolle August 12th, 2007, 05:37 PM Some 860km in 2005 according to Wikipedia, but i think it is over a thousand kilometers now. Qtya August 12th, 2007, 06:41 PM What is the total lenght of hungarian motorways??? 966,5 kms now. End of August 2007: 978,5 kms Before Christmas, 2007: 1017,5 kms igorlan August 13th, 2007, 08:19 AM 966,5 kms now. End of August 2007: 978,5 kms Before Christmas, 2007: 1017,5 kms In Poland 730 km including A18 and another 190 km under construction by the end of 2007, planned for construction in 2008 - another 180 km (maybe miore) By the end of 2008 - 870 km in use. Nyuszi August 13th, 2007, 06:50 PM 966,5 kms now. End of August 2007: 978,5 kms Before Christmas, 2007: 1017,5 kms 2007: End of August: M7 Nagykanizsa-Sormás, +12kms End of September: M3 Görbeháza-Nyíregyháza, +39kms Total by the end of 2007: 1017,5 kms 2008: End of May: M7 Balatonszentgyörgy-Nagykanizsa +35kms End of June: M0 Between M4 to M3 +26,5kms End of August: M0 Between Main roads 2 and 11 + northern Danube bridge +11,2kms (3,2 kms the bridge itself) End of September<: M7 border connection with the bridge over the Mura. +1km End of September<: M6 Érd-Budapest (M0 connection) +11kms Total by the end of 2008: 1102,2 kms 2009: ? Probably end of the year: M31 Between M0 and M3, +12kms End of the year: M43 Szeged(M5)-Makó +39kms Total by the end of 2009: 1153,2 kms 2010: By the 2010th Elections(marc-april-may): M6 Dunaújváros-Boly, +114kms By the 2010th Elections(marc-april-may): M60 Boly-Pécs +30kms End of the year: M0 new section between Main road 51. and M5, +6,3kms End of the year: M0 M6 - Main road 51. sz. +11 kms (including 2 new Danube bridges: Hárosi Duna-bridge, Soroksári Dunaág-bridge) Total by the end of 2010: 1314,5 kms |