M0 bridge:

http://index.hu/video/2011/10/13/uj_m0/

Motorways in Hungary are impressive. I had a chance to drive from Poland to Hajduszoboszlo this past summer and have to say that I was amazed by the highway infrastructure. I hope that Poland will soon have a vast motorway network like our brothers, the Hungarians have. Good job guys :)

Polak i Węgier dwaj bratanki ;) (Pole and Hungarian two brothers)

You are right, the Hungarian freeway network went through a spectacular growing period. Between 2002-2010 its total leght doubled, becoming one of the most impressive in the region. The problem is that its development has come to a complete standstill with the new government, and with the arrival of this pocket dictator (Lukashenko-) Orbán, who was also responsible for the waisted 4 years during his first reign (1998-2002), and who is forcing the very same frog down his subjects' throats now that he lied himself into power again. And he does make sure that nothig gets built in his unfortunate land without his taking his cut. Anyways, the fact that there is at least something under construction in Hungary is nice.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=15459349&postcount=680


This is a video of how the Hungarian network developed.

Construction of a new section (45,7 Km) on M3 ( Nyíregyháza-Vásárosnamény ) will start "shortly".

This is not quite right. The development was divided into two phases. Phase one between Nyíregyháza and Main road 49 (Vája) was awarded to Colas last summer and after a half year delay, the construction begun in March. Nevertheless, this development raises some questions... Last summer the contract was signed just days (3-4) before the management of NIF was sacked by the new government... And that time the financing of this project wasn't even finalized by the EU, yet... Brussels gave the go-ahead to this project on the 3rd of October 2011! (Source: http://www.nfu.hu/content/8428) So my question is, why the rush? Why was this development so important to sign the contract rapidly, without financial background?

A quote from Colas's official magazine (May):


MOTORWAY M3 CONSTRU CTION KICKS OFF

On 29 June 2010, construction works
on the section of motorway M3 between
Nyíregyháza and road no. 49 were launched. The
consortium known as C-S-K-K 2009 is headed by
Colas-Hungária Zrt., while engineering duties are
fulfilled by the Főber-Oviber consortium.
This phase of the M3 will become the first
motorway in Eastern Hungary to approach the
country’s borders, thus potentially becoming one
of Central Europe’s most significant corridors
towards Eastern Europe.
Similarly to the M0 site office in Szigetszentmiklós,
container headquarters were set up in Nagykálló,
some five km from the starting interchange. For
the sake of simplicity, the consortium merged
into a project company and split up the design
sections between members, from which Colas-
Hungária was assigned the first and the third one,
i.e. the first two and the middle nine kilometres.
Deforestation, weed control, and munitions-sweep
works were completed on the aforementioned
areas back in 2010. In January 2011, the first set
of test piles was completed for bridgeworks at
the interchange with road no. 403. The majority
of haulage roads have also been established,
with gravel supplied by the Tarcal quarry of
Colas-Északkő. Finally, we were able to commence
mass-quantity earthworks on design section I at
the end of February. Despite the low-lying terrain
interspersed with watercourses and hardened by
sections requiring soil replacement, earthworks
emerged from the ground level on the entire site
by mid-April. Our SAE MB500 CKt mixing plant,
producing cement-bound road base, was installed
south of Ófehértó, just outside a borrow pit. After
establishing the water supply from a bored well,
the plant is to reach an operational status by the
middle of May. Dismantling of the Benninghoven
TBA 4000 U C asphalt-mixing plant – that supported
construction of the M6 from Szekszárd – has been
commenced. This machine is to be set up at the
depot of our consortium partner until the end of May.
Works have been launched on almost all
available segments of the site, and
archaeologists are expected to withdraw from
the future location of the carriageway by the end
of spring. From that point on, rapid advancement
will be witnessed by local residents, who
have been just as eager to see the motorway
construction up and running as we are.



Prove me wrong, but the construction seems to be going on, and AFAIK the second phase (Main road 49 (Vája) - Vásárosnamény) will be tendered this month... But I wouldn't bet on it...

I drove Nyiregyhaza-Vaja-Mateszalka-ROmania in July and I remember some construction site just after passing Vaja...

Motorways in Hungary are impressive.

Yes, that's true.
In my opinion, M6/M60 (Budapest-Bóly-Pécs) is the best motorway they currently have. It's far better than most of the austrian, german or swiss motorways I know.

Well it's not much of match comparing brand new, low-trafficked motorways with motorways that are decades old.

^^ That's true, but even old Hungarian motorways are good (at least M7).

^^ That's true, but even old Hungarian motorways are good (at least M7).

Due to a lack of maintenance funds, M1 starts to rot... :(

I drove Nyiregyhaza-Vaja-Mateszalka-ROmania in July and I remember some construction site just after passing Vaja...

Thanks for the back up! :okay:

That "some construction site" is a 33 km long.

Due to a lack of maintenance funds, M1 starts to rot... :(

Some service areas are horrible...

Well it's not much of match comparing brand new, low-trafficked motorways with motorways that are decades old.
Why do you say it is low trafficed? It has more than 8 thousand AADT... And we have some 1+1 roads for 20-25.000...

Due to a lack of maintenance funds, M1 starts to rot... :(
Basically you're right but even so M1 is better than a lot of German os Austrian motorways.

U/C and pre-tendered M3 strech towards Vásárosnamény...

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/5950/m3nyiregyhazavasarosnam.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/62/m3nyiregyhazavasarosnam.jpg/)

Source and original sized map: http://www.roads.freeweb.hu/road_plans/m3_nyiregyhaza_vasarosnameny_atnezeti.jpg

Road no. 41 (originally 47) was opened in 1951 as a brand new main road with concrete pavement (parallel road of u/c M3 motorway).

black: existing roads
red: new sections


http://img2.indafoto.hu/2/1/137075_0d48f2c9f0f8c53c5966c4fd78ae769b/13550933_cffd3f0021cb4ae65862b3caaaaf059c_xl.jpg

The road is under construction, Nyíregyháza-Apagy section is ready (still numbered 471)

http://img1.indafoto.hu/2/1/137075_0d48f2c9f0f8c53c5966c4fd78ae769b/13551061_f56e07730084d9c5c7a0f50751098316_xl.jpg

The new road near Baktalórántháza at the '50s, now as 47 (photo: http://www.fortepan.hu )

http://img2.indafoto.hu/2/1/137075_0d48f2c9f0f8c53c5966c4fd78ae769b/13551163_7ae4456849da88dfc654bcec93abc3ab_xl.jpg

The same crossing of road 41 nowadays in the same direction (photo: Szemes Elek)

http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/17300051.jpg

awesome

when is supossed to be finished the m35 motorway till berettyoujfalu? and m4 beetween berettyoujfalu and ro border? are they working on this segments?

http://www.origo.hu/itthon/20111031-roman-kamion-okozott-halalos-tomegbalesetet-az-m43ason.html :(


pics: http://www.delmagyar.hu/kepek/14_halott_az_m43-ason/2022138/


RO: http://www.neotim.ro/imagini-catastrofa-pe-o-sosea-din-ungaria-14-romani-au-murit-in-urma-unui-accident-rutier/

Too bad... 14 killed. The crash barriers appear woefully substandard though. Unless the angle of attack is almost 90 degrees, double-sided, twin crash barriers are capable of keeping a full-size truck on its own carriageway. Usually the median barriers bends out, or the truck turns over on top of them. This one managed to made it all the way into the ditch on the opposite side.

These crash barriers are much safer (and more expensive of course):
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2688/4031195651_671f270d50_o.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/chriszwolle/4031195651/)
A28 Zwolle-3 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/chriszwolle/4031195651/) by Chriszwolle (http://www.flickr.com/people/chriszwolle/), on Flickr

Added to all real issues it was a very bad luck, too. Having a motorway, far from being overcrowded, in the middle of the night, the truck had good chances to harm no one (except for itself of course). Hitting a car, even a bus, it's a tragedy.

http://www.origo.hu/itthon/20111031-roman-kamion-okozott-halalos-tomegbalesetet-az-m43ason.html :(


pics: http://www.delmagyar.hu/kepek/14_halott_az_m43-ason/2022138/


RO: http://www.neotim.ro/imagini-catastrofa-pe-o-sosea-din-ungaria-14-romani-au-murit-in-urma-unui-accident-rutier/

Unfortunately it was a romanian accident :ohno:

Both truck and van, were registered in Romania.

This kind of shit happens way too often with romanian vehicles here than it should statistically. Maybe a compulsory 24h stay at the border for every vehicle would solve it.

I think they're pretty tired after driving such long distances across substandard roads in Romania, and then enter godlike Hungary where the motorways begin and then they fall asleep.

:(

When I read this in our news, I was almost certain it happened on M70 again, but surprisingly it happened on M43. Last time I drove on M70, an idiot (I won't tell his nationality, although we all know he was a Romanian :D) overtook me over a red-coloured full line right before a truck came from the opposite direction (which he saw). :bash:

Not all Romanians drive like that, I for sure not (but I'm not 100% Romanian, anyway), but a lot do, I see them too when I drive, a lot of crazy stupid people not thinking the risks they are taking for them and also for others. Many that do crazy manoeuvrs, have power cars with fast acceleration or big SUV cars, and other just have to let them pass so an accident doesn't occur.

Many that do crazy manoeuvrs, have power cars with fast acceleration or big SUV cars, and other just have to let them pass so an accident doesn't occur.

You forgot about the vans, pulling a trailer and driving 130km/h. :ohno:
Same for buses overtaking on M0 southern section with 100km/h. But these normally come not from Romania.

I read a report in the Romanian media that Mako-Nagylak will be delayed. Apparently the source is portfolio.hu. Is that right?

I read a report in the Romanian media that Mako-Nagylak will be delayed. Apparently the source is portfolio.hu. Is that right?

Exactly. This is the source:

http://www.portfolio.hu/ingatlan/ipari/epul_meg_uj_autopalya_magyarorszagon.157608.html

It says M43 Makó-Nagylak section will open end of 2014. That means one and a half years delay...:-(

^^ That's about one year later than the scheduled opening for Timisoara-Nadlac, but considering the probable delays, I am assuming there will not be a major timelag in between the 2 openings.

Not all Romanians drive like that, I for sure not (but I'm not 100% Romanian, anyway), but a lot do, I see them too when I drive, a lot of crazy stupid people not thinking the risks they are taking for them and also for others. Many that do crazy manoeuvrs, have power cars with fast acceleration or big SUV cars, and other just have to let them pass so an accident doesn't occur.

my favorite video regarding reckless driving. It happened it Romania but appearently its a turkish truck, overtaking a bulgarian.

starts at 0:44

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bX9Evv83Efo

^^ That's about one year later than the scheduled opening for Timisoara-Nadlac, but considering the probable delays, I am assuming there will not be a major timelag in between the 2 openings.

I hope so too, but considering the fact that no motorway has been EVER opened in Hungary on time (except M6 of course), lets count with an opening somewhere in 2015 :-)

Too bad... 14 killed. The crash barriers appear woefully substandard though. Unless the angle of attack is almost 90 degrees,

I believe it was...

The driver took some cold pills which cause dizziness and may induce sleep as side effect. According to prescriptions, persons should not drive after taking the pills. Obviously, few drivers are aware of that. :(

The driver took some cold pills which cause dizziness and may induce sleep as side effect. According to prescriptions, persons should not drive after taking the pills. Obviously, few drivers are aware of that. :(
According the hungarian news, the driver had diarrhea and obviously he was in bad shape.:ohno:

According the hungarian news, the driver had diarrhea and obviously he was in bad shape.:ohno:

and according to Romanian news he had been driving all the way from... Arad! Something doesn't add up, and what a nightmare for folk travelling on that minibus and their families

and according to Romanian news he had been driving all the way from... Arad! Something doesn't add up, and what a nightmare for folk travelling on that minibus and their families

Yes and 6 of them could still be alive if they would have not travelled in a minibus approved for 9 passengers. ;-)

Human stupidity has no limits. Even among the dead ones!

Those vehicles are coffins on wheels. Driving 3,000 km in such vehicles is like paying a premium for being dumb. Well, that's how the world goes around. Stupid always pay up!

Today, demonstrations againts the governments caused big jams...
M3:
http://galeria.index.hu/belfold/2011/11/04/a_liga_szakszervezeti_szovetseg_felpalyas_utlezaro_demonstracioja/2465164_73e2c0e81001333286b09c791d408b48_l.jpg

Budaörsi út, not much after the end of M1-M7:
http://galeria.index.hu/belfold/2011/11/04/a_liga_szakszervezeti_szovetseg_felpalyas_utlezaro_demonstracioja/2465162_8c28bc9f7f4fe924c34847d8f684f4b4_l.jpg

http://galeria.index.hu/belfold/2011/11/04/a_liga_szakszervezeti_szovetseg_felpalyas_utlezaro_demonstracioja/2465160_e93876543d18989434fe4aedaa5514ad_l.jpg



Now in Budapest the air pollution has already reached some critical levels due to bad weather... This demonstrations only help to improve the smog...

/PM10 concentration is over the alert limit/

Now in Budapest the air pollution has already reached some critical levels due to bad weather...

What happens if the pollution remains over the limit? I remember that two (or three?) years ago they allowed only one day cars with even plates, the other day cars with uneven. This caused some problems and was not very effective. How is it now?

^^This rule has been withdrawn. Now only old cars of the worst air pollution category are forbidden to be used. Usually such cars (Euro 0 so at least 16 years old cars) are owned by old people that use them for 1-2.000 kms per year, so that less than 1% of the city traffic has any restriction.
Basically car traffic is almost unlimited even in a heavy pollution.

^^ people are forced to use environment-friendly public transport:

http://www.magyar-mernok.hu/files/apjalanya/rajtolazikarus.jpg

Smog is usually lasting a relatively short period of time. Traffic restrictions do not have much effect, as usually smog is caused by inversion and meteorological circumstances, not day-to-day exhaust from traffic, factories, homes and agriculture.

They did extensive tests with 80 km/h limits in the Netherlands on motorways (instead of 120 km/h). The actual decrease of pollutant concentrations was within the margin of error. It has no measurable effect.

Yes it mostly depends on weather but nowadays it forms faster. In Hungary the problem isnt with the concentration of NOx, CO2, O3, but with PM10 (particulate matter smaller than about 10 micrometers), which is emitted by mostly diesel engines (older ones without without particle filters), coal firing and wood firing. The biggest problem is that the price of gas has reached a critical limit what a lot of people can't pay, so the switched from gas heating to wood heating. About half of the people I know has been switched... And this problem for example in Budapest is much smaller because there it's hard to heat the homes with wood because they can't store it so easy, and a big percent of homes use district heating. For example here in Taksony(village) the smog was usually bigger in the last few days than in Bp. And I believe that a big percentage of the people who live in the countriside use wood for heating nowadays...

Sorry for being long and a bit offtopic :D

edit

It is a good idea :)

:cripes:

del

is the bohóc a crack at viktátor?

I have a good idea aswell. Keep this thread for motorway and road DEVELOPMENT and leave those index.hu articles and pictures about accidents and whatevers... Effin annoying. :ohno:
What do you say?

I have a good idea aswell. Keep this thread for motorway and road DEVELOPMENT and leave those index.hu articles and pictures about accidents and whatevers... Effin annoying. :ohno:
What do you say?

Accidents happen on roads or motorways, so it's on-topic...

I have a good idea aswell. Keep this thread for motorway and road DEVELOPMENT and leave those index.hu articles and pictures about accidents and whatevers... Effin annoying. :ohno:
What do you say?

what developments....

I have a good idea aswell. Keep this thread for motorway and road DEVELOPMENT and leave those index.hu articles and pictures about accidents and whatevers... Effin annoying. :ohno:
What do you say?

pff

Some photos about electric transmission lines:

120 kV and 20 kV near road 61 Kaposvár bypass
http://img1.indafoto.hu/2/1/137075_0d48f2c9f0f8c53c5966c4fd78ae769b/13752203_0f368123716d1af2e65c8adeb0931ec5_xl.jpg

Road 8 at Inota power plant
http://img1.indafoto.hu/2/1/137075_0d48f2c9f0f8c53c5966c4fd78ae769b/13752201_2d8cc8064f75adf315c8cdfbdd39ff0e_xl.jpg

35 kV line over road 8
http://img2.indafoto.hu/2/1/137075_0d48f2c9f0f8c53c5966c4fd78ae769b/13752199_4236e7edf79fed4c3d94c393040efc92_xl.jpg

Martonvásár-Litér 400 kV line over road 8
http://img2.indafoto.hu/2/1/137075_0d48f2c9f0f8c53c5966c4fd78ae769b/13752197_e268b506700579a6b5b41fdb2675a9bc_xl.jpg

Albertirsa-Martonvásár 400 kV line over road 405
http://img2.indafoto.hu/2/1/137075_0d48f2c9f0f8c53c5966c4fd78ae769b/13752193_ef2194e0e02a1a59efce9841da8e21b7_xl.jpg

also
http://img2.indafoto.hu/2/1/137075_0d48f2c9f0f8c53c5966c4fd78ae769b/13752191_821ae852b318ea555d3c7b2ee096a402_xl.jpg

former Zapadnoukrainskaya-Albertirsa 750 kV line near road 4 Abony bypass (since ~1991 it's out of work)
http://img1.indafoto.hu/2/1/137075_0d48f2c9f0f8c53c5966c4fd78ae769b/13752189_fadc969f6009ed6ca7a3ff8992a5886f_xl.jpg

120 kV and 400 kV Sándorfalva-Subotica international line over M5 motorway
http://img1.indafoto.hu/2/1/137075_0d48f2c9f0f8c53c5966c4fd78ae769b/13752187_098dad84a6097aa111ef15a57a3184c2_xl.jpg

2x400 kV over road 5 (Sándorfalva-Paks and Sándorfalva-Subotica lines)
http://img2.indafoto.hu/2/1/137075_0d48f2c9f0f8c53c5966c4fd78ae769b/13752185_e34a626522f28a3d2fce8ec3d1369356_xl.jpg

del

mekkora seggfejek vagytok. úgy érzem mostantól leszarom ezt a fórumot is. akkor nézzétek azt, hogy hetekig senki nem szól semmit a témához.

Poţi te rog frumos să scrii în Limba Engleză? Mulţumesc! :)

"Coming out..." :lol:

Thanks for photos М7, we go to Ljubljana in the spring!

^ That's a bloody long way!

^ That's a bloody long way!
Much more shortly, than from Kazan to Paris :)

JpRjG10y6qo
The vid starts on some rural back roads which aren't really maintained, AADT might be around 20. Than continuing on road 5202 the biggest percent of traffic there is truck traffic so it's pavement is concrete.

JpRjG10y6qo
The vid starts on some rural back roads which aren't really maintained, AADT might be around 20. Than continuing on road 5202 the biggest percent of traffic there is truck traffic so it's pavement is concrete.

Nice video :)

^^ I like the first road. :D

I have a good idea aswell. Keep this thread for motorway and road DEVELOPMENT and leave those index.hu articles and pictures about accidents and whatevers... Effin annoying. :ohno:
What do you say?

My opinion is that if an article about an accident illustrates a particular point about highway design or development, then it's on-topic. If it's just random gratuitous death porn then, in my opinion, it's off-topic.

...well, it makes sense.:lol:

Slow progress, but still a milestone... Installing the riverbed bridge structure...

Photos are exactly one month old...

http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/8968/a57351jpg.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/695/a57351jpg.jpg/)

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/6483/a47351jpg.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/213/a47351jpg.jpg/)

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/4533/a37351jpg.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/46/a37351jpg.jpg/)

http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/2230/a27351jpg.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/828/a27351jpg.jpg/)

http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/492/a17351jpg.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/829/a17351jpg.jpg/)

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/3462/a67351jpg.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/233/a67351jpg.jpg/)
Source: Koszticsák Szilárd. MTI

This section with the Ferenc Deák bridge or more commonly known as the bridge of the Háros Danube branch scheduled to be opened (after a long procurment delay) on the 30th of June 2013...

Site description:
Bridge in the M0 Southern Sector Section II. from 14+623,85 km to 15+393,15 km.
Length of site, width: 790m*90m = 71 700 m²

The site can be divided into three parts:

Csepel-Island side (left flood area).
river bed, (in Danube section 1632+750 rkm)
Buda-side (right flood area)

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-uNBmzmTsXs8/TmOuNOUEKTI/AAAAAAAAENE/50gj_Oqw0bs/DSC_0390.JPG

On M70http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/23675022.jpg

Wow loved it. Such a great asphalt quality. Cheers.

On M70

No, that's on M7 right after Croatian border.

I meant to post this. sorry!
http://mw2.google.com/mw-panoramio/photos/medium/39673514.jpg

Nice view
http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/20798478.jpg

Some congestions on M0. On the non-existing section of M0.
M0 is such a congested road that there are even congestions on sections which have not been build yet.
At least according to Google Maps (http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=47.363711,19.170284&spn=0.086391,0.154324&hnear=Magyarorsz%C3%A1g&t=m&z=13&vpsrc=6&layer=t). (<- Click)

Some congestions on M0. On the non-existing section of M0.
M0 is such a congested road that there are even congestions on sections which have not been build yet.
At least according to Google Maps (http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=47.363711,19.170284&spn=0.086391,0.154324&hnear=Magyarorsz%C3%A1g&t=m&z=13&vpsrc=6&layer=t). (<- Click)

That would follow naturally from Google's mistake of thinking that that section of the M0 had been built. The congestion monitoring is based on the time it takes for mobile phones to get from one part of the road to another. Since all the mobile phones moving from one place to another where there is no motorway will need a long time on the surface streets, the computer will classify that as congestion.

iteresting. but there are no streets there. maybe some construction workers moving along that section with their cell phones?

iteresting. but there are no streets there. maybe some construction workers moving along that section with their cell phones?

Maybe it's people driving around to the north? That's about twice as far, so the computer would think they drove about half as fast as they did.

^^that might be it. btw no big surprise that so many people have paranoia nowadays, we are obviously being watched all the time. and the system seems fairly uptodate, as it is changing. so just wait until 2020 - when this section gets completed - and it will all turn green. touch of a magic wand.:lol:

On M1 you can drive without vignette between the border crossing and exit 168 (and Győr, Tatabánya bypass)


How about to pay the toll at Moson Pihenöhely? I did this for years when driving to Budapest, but was always unsure if this legal or not. Can I continue doing so (like many others), or do I have to pay right at the border? Thanks for your answers!

On M1 you can drive without vignette between the border crossing and exit 168

Not according to this (http://www.motorway.hu/Root/Autopalya-HU/Letoltheto_Doksik/Dijmentes_szakaszok_terkep2010.jpg) map. :dunno:

^^ That's exactly why I ask. But as I remember, the first numberplate scanners are installed after exit 160 (Mosonmagyaróvár), so maybe it's "de facto" for free.

It seems to be that the section close to border was changed to tolled in 2010, but I remember that before that it was free. :dunno:

This is a bit newer map of the tolled and free sections:
http://www.autopalya.hu/Root/Autopalya-HU/Letoltheto_Doksik/AAK_TERKEP_20110418_NORMAL.jpg

As far as I know if you buy your e-vignette during your jurney on the motorway (or on the day of your jurney?) you won't get fined. But I'm not sure. I allways buy it before entering the motorway, you can buy it via SMS and Internet as well, take a look at it here (http://www.motorway.hu/kezdooldal).

Btw there are also mobile numberplate scanners, so it's not that easy to fool the system.

^^ another map where M30 Miskolc bypass is marked as tolled, but I think it isn't. It's not even motorway, from exit Miskolc-del (road 304) to the north it's just 2+2 road with speed limit 110kph

As far as I know if you buy your e-vignette during your jurney on the motorway (or on the day of your jurney?) you won't get fined.http://www.motorway.hu/02Ematrica/01Dijtablazat2011:The sales points located along toll road sections are not intended to sell authorisations for the current trip, but to make the purchase easier for future trips. This means that the mobile groups can also check motorway authorisations at the sales points alongside the toll sections. In such occasions, the indication of the intention to purchase road-use authorisation does not exempt the driver from the obligation to pay an excess charge.:D

I always wondered what the exact rights and possibilities of these "mobile groups" are - they can hardly be equal to those of police officers?! What if a vehicle does not stop at their sign? Can they apply any force?

^^ you don't need to be stopped to get fined... Don't know what happens if you have foreign plates, though. I suggest everyone entering Hungary at Hegyeshalom on M1 to buy the vignette at the border. The vendor is clearly signed near the motorway.

I suggest everyone entering Hungary at Hegyeshalom on M1 to buy the vignette at the border. The vendor is clearly signed near the motorway.

I have noticed, that much more then half of the people cross the border and drive without vignette to Moson Pihenöhely and buy it there at the MOL-shop.
I did so too, except the last two times I went to Hungary. Then I bought it right after the border.

One of my friend after driving 100-150 km on M7 noticed that he forgot to buy a vignette, so he did it on the road, and later he didn't get a fine. Maybe he was lucky.

One of my friend after driving 100-150 km on M7 noticed that he forgot to buy a vignette, so he did it on the road, and later he didn't get a fine. Maybe he was lucky.

no he wasnt. when you start your trip f.e. at 0:00 you can buy the vignette on the same day latest on 23:59...

Very clever.
The purpose of a fine is not to make money on people.

no he wasnt. when you start your trip f.e. at 0:00 you can buy the vignette on the same day latest on 23:59...

Good info thanks. Few weeks ago I went on M3 and wanted to buy vignette via text message. (You have to send two texts, one with your license plate number, you get an answer about the transaction and details, then you send the second text with the confirmation.) My phone's battery went dead between the two texts, which I didn't notice, so I didn't send the confirmation. I sent it hours later when I noticed that I have forgot about the whole thing...
I wasn't sure whether to expect a fine, I thought it wouldn't be a problem and nothing appened since then.
But it's good to know the general practice.

Very clever.
The purpose of a fine is not to make money on people.

yes, first priority is to get them to buy the vignette in the first place

AFAIK it is being considered to make all major roads part of the sticker system in Hungary, in return the yearly sticker would cost around half of the current price.

I read about this too; didn't they implement the mandatory "all-roads" vignette in Romania some years ago?
70-year-old Uncle Józsi, who never ever enters a motorway with his car, won't profit of the reduced sticker price; for citizens like him, the all-roads vignette obligation will be another rip-off.
Also, what about tourists and Hungarian vacationers coming from Austria to Lake Balaton (no motorway yet, so no vignette), will they have to buy a vignette for driving on clogged Main Road 84?

this is sick

What is the current taxation in Hungary? Do you have to pay a road tax (apart from matrica)? Or is it only a car purchase tax or excise duty?

- special registration tax upon purchase
- 25% vat on purchase, 27% next year
- special fee every time the vehicle changes hands incl. the first time
- annual tax based on power output, channeled to local councils
- special tax incorporated into the fuel price + 25% vat on fuel and on this tax, 27% next year
- compulsory biannual mechanical + environmental testing for a fee
- compulsory insurance, new special tax on this from next year, 20-25%
- vignette for motorways, + main roads for speditors
- parking fees everywhere, administered by private companies owned by asskissers
- out-of-control police tactics to ticket ppl left and right


we spend less than 1.5bn eur on roads annually (a quarter-third of it is corruption) while motorists pay 4+ bn

SICK

this is why my car will have an sk plate from next year

sons of bitches

we spend less than 1.5bn eur on roads annually (a quarter-third of it is corruption) while motorists pay 4+ bn


Sounds like the Netherlands, only the figures are 16 bn vs 3.5 bn. So it could be worse ;)

this is why my car will have an sk plate from next year


But as I heard, the government wants to stop this from next year and punish those who still drive illegaly with foreign plates.

- special registration tax upon purchase
- 25% vat on purchase, 27% next year
- special fee every time the vehicle changes hands incl. the first time
- annual tax based on power output, channeled to local councils
- special tax incorporated into the fuel price + 25% vat on fuel and on this tax, 27% next year
- compulsory biannual mechanical + environmental testing for a fee
- compulsory insurance, new special tax on this from next year, 20-25%
- vignette for motorways, + main roads for speditors
- parking fees everywhere, administered by private companies owned by asskissers
- out-of-control police tactics to ticket ppl left and right


we spend less than 1.5bn eur on roads annually (a quarter-third of it is corruption) while motorists pay 4+ bn

SICK

this is why my car will have an sk plate from next year

sons of bitches

you are going to do like my fellow romanians did with bulgarian plates :D i think almost 5-10% of the entire romanian car fleet is registrated in other countries. I dont blame you for SK plates

Very well said gramercy.
I never had a H-registered car as I am not a resident, but an "all-roads" vignette would concern me as well when travelling there ...

Sounds like the Netherlands, only the figures are 16 bn vs 3.5 bn. So it could be worse

The Netherlands and Switzerland are a li'l bit far from being model countries for automobilists. Yet the financial burden they have to bear is somewhat less than in Hungary, if we compare NL/CH and Hungarian incomes.

But as I heard, the government wants to stop this from next year and punish those who still drive illegaly with foreign plates.


They have already been doing this for years (the VPOP, or whatever its current name is). Will there be some major step-up here?
I heard that with an authorization from the owner of the foreign-registered car that has a validity of 30 days maximum, you're in the clear ... this is what I would have to prepare if lending my car to somebody in Hungary.

But as I heard, the government wants to stop this from next year and punish those who still drive illegaly with foreign plates.

The goernment can do nohing if he puts residence in Sloakia or if hemakes a company in Slovakia and uses company car with slovak plates. The government can only in these cases bother him and checks if he is really making some business or lviing in Slovakia, but in that case they have to ask the slovk authorities.

Anyway I suggest him to take sk plates of cities far from the hungarian border, so he will not be stopped. :)

But as I heard, the government wants to stop this from next year and punish those who still drive illegaly with foreign plates.

not if its a company car

Sounds like the Netherlands, only the figures are 16 bn vs 3.5 bn. So it could be worse ;)

yes, except most of our expenditure comes from eu subsidies
annual road budget from the central budget is around 350 mil... this from a 40 bn eur expenditure

I read about this too; didn't they implement the mandatory "all-roads" vignette in Romania some years ago?

I think they did, but it is an entirely different story, for a number of reasons.

And yes, it does sound like some extra tax on motorists.

I think they did, but it is an entirely different story, for a number of reasons.

And yes, it does sound like some extra tax on motorists.

Yes, vignette is needed in Romania on all motorways and national roads. Only Bulgaria and Romania apply this system currently in Europe afaik.

^^ Albania too, if I am not mistaken.

Since Hungary got a well developed motorway network I think it's a nonsense to extend the vignette's scope! Lesser that more money will not flow to the local transport authority. At the moment I think the price for a tranzit vignette is low enough for foreigners, compared to Slovenia for instance!

you are going to do like my fellow romanians did with bulgarian plates :D i think almost 5-10% of the entire romanian car fleet is registrated in other countries. I dont blame you for SK plates

I heard that it is going to be changed since the Bulgarian insurance alliance complained to the government that too many road accidants are made whit BG plate' cars drived by Romanians in Romania, which costs too much for the insurance' companies. I don't know if its 100% true, but there are some government movements that want to stop registring of RO cars in Bulgaria for sure!

- compulsory insurance, new special tax on this from next year, 20-25%



I thought this suggested "medicare insurance" tax was 30%. The rationale behind it was that the government does not levy taxes on the people, it charges the companies instead. So the fairly simple and meek falks will blame those companies for having to pay more while the government can claim that they are just trying to protect the people. IMHO this kind of double talk leads up to the mafia type establishment that characterizes today's Hungary.

you are going to do like my fellow romanians did with bulgarian plates :D i think almost 5-10% of the entire romanian car fleet is registrated in other countries. I dont blame you for SK plates

In Hungary, this is done mainly with Slovak- and German-registered vehicles. The German-plated ones are often genuine rental cars (from some rental company) "long-time rented" by residents of Hungary. The Slovak ones usually are owned by Slovak-registered companies (as a part of the German ones as well). Also, American (USA) plates - for vehicles formally owned by a US legal entity - enjoy some popularity. In some vehicle sales ads, one can read "Slovak / US registration feasible" :lol:

In Hungary, this is done mainly with Slovak- and German-registered vehicles.

Are the german ones mainly from Bavaria? I ask because cars registered in Munich, Nürnberg or Rosenheim I have seen a lot more often then others.

^^ yes, Rosenheim (RO) is the most popular, and Komárno (KN) from Slovakia.

M85, Enese bypass, almost ready:
http://www.nif.hu/upload/gallery/2759/aa/s_17137.jpg (http://www.nif.hu/hu/multimedia/85._szamu_fout_Enese_elkerulo_szakasz_-_2011._november)

Main road 62, Perkáta bypass, november:
http://www.nif.hu/upload/gallery/2761/c0/s_17172.jpg (http://www.nif.hu/hu/multimedia/62._szamu_fout_Perkata_elkerulo_ut_epitese_-_2011._november)

Lulla - Balatonendréd acces road:
http://www.nif.hu/upload/gallery/2762/a1/s_17192.jpg (http://www.nif.hu/hu/multimedia/Lulla_-_Balatonendred_osszekoto_ut_epitese_-_2011._november)

http://www.nif.hu/upload/gallery/2762/a7/s_17188.jpg (http://www.nif.hu/hu/multimedia/Lulla_-_Balatonendred_osszekoto_ut_epitese_-_2011._november)

/This amount of groundworks, cuttings, etc. are a bit overkill to connenct 2 villages(pop. of Lulla is 229, pop. of Balatonendréd is 1370)/


--

Older:
main road 21, overtaking sections, october:
http://www.nif.hu/upload/gallery/2751/19/s_16976.jpg (http://www.nif.hu/hu/multimedia/21._szamu_fout_elozesi_szakaszok_VI-VII._-_2011._szeptember)

main road 76, Hévíz bypass, october:
http://www.nif.hu/upload/gallery/2756/eb/s_17114.jpg (http://www.nif.hu/hu/multimedia/76._szamu_fout_Heviz_elkerulo_epitese_-_2011._oktober)

When will M85 open?

great update



/This amount of groundworks, cuttings, etc. are a bit overkill to connenct 2 villages(pop. of Lulla is 229, pop. of Balatonendréd is 1370)/


not really, theres a large gap in the network there
http://maps.google.hu/?ll=46.797709,18.093796&spn=0.192255,0.221443&t=m&z=12&vpsrc=6

M85 Enese bypass will open by the end of this year, according to a local newspaper (Kisalföld).

M43 was updated correctly on google maps

In an October UNECE meeting, Hungary requested an eastward extension of E66 between M7/E71 and main road 4/E60. It will follow main roads 7, 62, M6, M8, 51, 52, 441, according to the proposal map.

http://www.unece.org/fileadmin/DAM/trans/doc/2011/sc1/Informal_Document_No.1e.pdf

Possibly this is a preparatory step for a future M8/E66?

Hello guys,Could someone give me some information on winter tyres regulations in Hungary at this moment?are they compulsory all the time or only during harsh conditions?are the so called "all season" tyres accepted?Thanks in advance

Are there any special requirements for driving in winter in Hungary? My mom watched the news and they said that many hungarian cops will be on the streets around Christmas and the fines are very high for not respecting the rules for driving in winter. We will transit Hungary on 24th on December.

We will transit Hungary on 24th on December.

Are you going to search for Santa on the Hungarian motorways? :lol:

I will also drive in Hungary around Christmas Eve but my car has winter tyres. Are there other things good to be known about driving there during the winter?

Are you going to search for Santa on the Hungarian motorways? :lol:

I will also drive in Hungary around Christmas Eve but my car has winter tyres. Are there other things good to be known about driving there during the winter?

My car also has winter tyres.
I'm going to Dresden and I will leave Bucharest just friday around 8 pm as I have to work that day:ohno:. I hope I will be able to reach Dresden just in time to meet Santa there:).

^^ winter tyres are not compulsory in Hungary, but highly recommended. Compulsory accessories are the first aid kit and the warning triangle. Safety vests, fire extinguisher are recommended but not compulsory. In certain weather conditions you might be allowed to enter the country only if you have a snow chain. Lights must be on outside built-up areas. There aren't any more special requirements in Hungary.

One more thing: Romanians, please switch off your fog lights when they are not neccessary :D

One more thing: Romanians, please switch off your fog lights when they are not neccessary :D

... i.e. when there's no fog :D But the advice can be directed to some renitent local drivers as well.

A kit of spare light bulbs used to be mandatory as well, but this has been recently abolished.

A kit of spare light bulbs used to be mandatory as well, but this has been recently abolished.

For some car models it's hard or even impossible to change the lights on the side of the road anyway.

I'm going to Dresden and I will leave Bucharest just friday around 8 pm as I have to work that day. I hope I will be able to reach Dresden just in time to meet Santa there.

That is a huge trip to undertake, but once you've cleared Romania, it's nearly all motorway. Don't underestimate pre-Christmas traffic though, many people will travel for the holidays.

For some car models it's hard or even impossible to change the lights on the side of the road anyway.


True.

nXCZ2v-nIF4

That is a huge trip to undertake, but once you've cleared Romania, it's nearly all motorway. Don't underestimate pre-Christmas traffic though, many people will travel for the holidays.

Yes, I know, that's why we will leave Bucharest probably at 8-9 pm on 23rd, when traffic lowers, hoping to get over Budapest bypass in the morning (around 7-8 am) before shopping and holiday traffic is incresing. After Budapest possible congestion points are Prague and the missing link on D8. We hope to arrive in Dresden around 6-7pm.
Last time I came from Dresden in October in one leg me being the only driver and it was quite exhausting, driving almost continuosly from 4 am to 11.30 pm, stopping just for toilet. Now we are 3 drivers so it should be easier, even if it's winter time.

^^ I don't think there will be too much traffic on the 24th around Budapest.

One more thing: Romanians, please switch off your fog lights when they are not neccessary :D
:applause::applause::applause::applause::applause:

One more thing: Romanians, please switch off your fog lights when they are not neccessary :D

Your request is outrageous!!!!!!!!

Your request is outrageous!!!!!!!!
:lol:

One more thing: Romanians, please switch off your fog lights when they are not neccessary :D

+1 :D

Hungary's Route 3 Literally the Highway to Hell:
http://www.pestiside.hu/entry_images/highway-to-hell-hungary.jpg

^ :lol:

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A Romanian website (http://transporter.ro/s-8167-Stiri-Ungaria-opreste-constructia-autostrazii-M43-Mako-Romania--) suggested that the opening of the remaining stretch of M43 Makó-RO border has been postponed for 2014. Is it true or it is just a stupid article?

http://img861.imageshack.us/img861/9613/82305.jpg
By SeanT (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/SeanT) at 2011-12-18
The price is in HUF (HUF/€ -300/1)
Tickets with 4 days are history now. You have to buy a 10 days ticket at least.
(Light blue: Year)

One more thing: Romanians, please switch off your fog lights when they are not neccessary :D
It's wrong to blame us for the fog lights.we learned it from the romanian police.btw if I were a policeman here in romania....only from fog lights tickets I would do my share of work.

A Romanian website (http://transporter.ro/s-8167-Stiri-Ungaria-opreste-constructia-autostrazii-M43-Mako-Romania--) suggested that the opening of the remaining stretch of M43 Makó-RO border has been postponed for 2014. Is it true or it is just a stupid article?

I don't think the source is ok.I searched the internet.couldn't fin anything about 2014,only 2013.
for the drivers who want to go to HU.the hungarian state motorway company has on the website a guide writen also in romanian for driving on HU motorway.all information available :master:
and for U nenea_harti and for the TM&AR team great job with the A1 pictures and stuff. I think U & the team are on the "10 most wanted" list of the Government :)

Hungary's Route 3 Literally the Highway to Hell:
http://www.pestiside.hu/entry_images/highway-to-hell-hungary.jpg


roundabout on E-road outside urban area is almost like a hell :)

It's wrong to blame us for the fog lights.we learned it from the romanian police.btw if I were a policeman here in romania....only from fog lights tickets I would do my share of work.

I don't understand this fog light problem. How could somebody even think about turning them on while there's no fog or heavy rain/snowing?

Rear fog lights are highly annoying when the fog or snow or spray is not dense. The main problem is that most people forget to turn them off.

I don't understand this fog light problem. How could somebody even think about turning them on while there's no fog or heavy rain/snowing?

Some drivers think it looks "cool" to have the front fog lights on at all times. I think it's an efficient way to spot idiots one mile away. :ohno:

Rear fog lights are highly annoying when the fog or snow or spray is not dense. The main problem is that most people forget to turn them off.

I think this is not the case when the drivers simply forget to turn them off. scoryllo is probably right:ohno::
Some drivers think it looks "cool" to have the front fog lights on at all times. I think it's an efficient way to spot idiots one mile away. :ohno:

+1 :D

Hungary's Route 3 Literally the Highway to Hell:
http://www.pestiside.hu/entry_images/highway-to-hell-hungary.jpg

I drove through this road last summer from Miskolc to the SK border (next to PL). Very nice road, with speed limits up to 110km/h on single carriageways with almost no junctions. When you enter SK afterwards, you feel like going VEEERY slow. & the polície is waiting for you :lol: So it is, as a matter of fact, a highway to hell ! :lol:

It's wrong to blame us for the fog lights.we learned it from the romanian police.btw if I were a policeman here in romania....only from fog lights tickets I would do my share of work.

Don't worry, guys ! We have the same problem in France with Belgian drivers who put on their rear fog lights on when it's raining a lot. I saw that pretty much there. I think it's a matter of law differences between the countries.
In France, it's not allowed to turn you rear fog light during heavy rain (but you may turn on your front fog light). Seems like in Belgium it is allowed... So maybe you've got the same problem between H & RO ...

Some drivers think it looks "cool" to have the front fog lights on at all times. I think it's an efficient way to spot idiots one mile away. :ohno:

I saw this kind of behavior in Ukraine ! :lol: & during the summer !

Yes, the main problem is that people think it looks cool, when they drive like this:
http://m.blog.hu/au/autozz/image/helyzetjelzo-kodlampa.jpg

Rear fog lights are an other case. Usually less experienced drivers forget to switch them off after the fog is gone. Many of these are older Suzuki Swift cars, which have TWO 21W rear fog lights :bash:

^^

What you're showing here looks like day running lights & not fog lights !

What I saw massively in Ukraine was xenon H.I.D. kits on headlights & front fog lights ! :lol: That's really a pain-in-the-eye !

I like M85.

What are the plans for 2012? Which motorways will go under construction, and which ones will be finished? As far as I know Hungarian motorway construction pace is currently one of the slowest in eastern EU.

^^ First of all, nothing is sure nowadays. What is announced today, might not be valid any more tomorrow.

What is U/C now:

- M0 new track between main road 51 and M5, might be ready in 2012

- M0 widening between M1 and main road 51, M7-M6 section might be ready in 2012

- M3 between Nyíregyháza and Őr (main road 49), might be ready in 2012

- M85 Enese bypass, will be ready in 2012

In the case of M86 Vát-Szombathely and M9 between main roads 51 and 54, the construction is suspended because the cotractor went bankrupt, new contractor will be chosen.

What will start in 2012:

- M43 between Makó and the border with Romania

- extending M2 to 2x2 between Dunakeszi and Vác

- maybe M3 between Őr and Vásárosnamény

- maybe M85 between Enese and Csorna

^^ First of all, nothing is sure nowadays. What is announced today, might not be valid any more tomorrow.

Yep, and railway recontructions have higher priorities now. Next year 197 km will be u/c.

^^ First of all, nothing is sure nowadays. What is announced today, might not be valid any more tomorrow.

What is U/C now:

- M0 new track between main road 51 and M5, might be ready in 2012

- M0 widening between M1 and main road 51, M7-M6 section might be ready in 2012

- M3 between Nyíregyháza and Őr (main road 49), might be ready in 2012

- M85 Enese bypass, will be ready in 2012

In the case of M86 Vát-Szombathely and M9 between main roads 51 and 54, the construction is suspended because the cotractor went bankrupt, new contractor will be chosen.

What will start in 2012:

- M43 between Makó and the border with Romania

- extending M2 to 2x2 between Dunakeszi and Vác

- maybe M3 between Őr and Vásárosnamény

- maybe M85 between Enese and Csorna


Again nothing about M4?

^^ construction of the Berettyóújfalu - RO border section will start in 2014...

and half profile if they have a lick of sense

I was watching bogdymol's video about M7 when i noticed something. This sign with very long city names. Isn't it hard to read for a foreigner?


http://img803.imageshack.us/img803/5/51743129.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/803/51743129.jpg/)

Balatonszentgyörgy and Balatonkeresztúr are a bit hard to read quickly, but the engschrift doesn't really help.

they should abbreviate to B.szentgyörgy and B.keresztúr

seen it elsewhere and everyone knows what b is 4

Hungarian place names are often long, but if you know how to chop them up (Balaton - Szent - György) it's easier to read them. I think that name means something like Holy George of Balaton or something.

There are plenty of places on the lake Balaton with "Balaton" in it's name. :)

Hungarian place names are often long, but if you know how to chop them up (Balaton - Szent - György) it's easier to read them. I think that name means something like Holy George of Balaton or something.

Almost exactly, it rather means Holy George at Balaton because there are lots of Szentgyörgy in Hungary:

http://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Szentgy%C3%B6rgy_(egy%C3%A9rtelm%C5%B1s%C3%ADt%C5%91_lap))


B-Szt.György

And what about this
http://img1.indafoto.hu/2/1/137075_0d48f2c9f0f8c53c5966c4fd78ae769b/14106775_057b9be24c6372f933e7cf7243095e35_m.jpg

Also remember that we read words like shapes, so you are likely to recognise it if you have read it before, which you have since you're probably going that way.

http://img803.imageshack.us/img803/5/51743129.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/803/51743129.jpg/)

When my friend saw this sign, she just said "WTF?". :D

del

they should abbreviate to B.szentgyörgy and B.keresztúr

seen it elsewhere and everyone knows what b is 4
Perhaps, but when we consider foreign citizens, do you think they would recognize B.Sz.György as Balatonszentgyörgy on a map?

only cut balaton

^^

Not sure it'll make things better ! It may confuse tourists looking for a place over the Balaton, with all the Széntgyörgys in H.

Moreover, I agree with SeanT - the B-Szt-György solution would be easier for ... Hungarians ! Not for foreigners with maps !

Maybe simply the font is too small ? (maybe they should put it on two lines like this:
Balaton-
-szentgyörgy
P.S.: Imagine some Welsh villages if you think these Hungarian names are too long :lol:

Almost exactly, it rather means Holy George at Balaton because there are lots of Szentgyörgy in Hungary:

http://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Szentgy%C3%B6rgy_(egy%C3%A9rtelm%C5%B1s%C3%ADt%C5%91_lap))


B-Szt.György

And what about this
http://img1.indafoto.hu/2/1/137075_0d48f2c9f0f8c53c5966c4fd78ae769b/14106775_057b9be24c6372f933e7cf7243095e35_m.jpg

Chop them up :) It will be easier to read :)

Hód-mező-vásár-hely (Beaver-field-fair-place) :D:D
Oros-háza
Békés-csaba (Peaceful-Csaba)
Szeg-halom (Spike-heap)
Berettyó-új-falu (Berettyó-new-village)

:)

Sorry for off-topic.

easier for you.and other people who understan hungarian.but how will an american understand this: are you going ti have a city breake in becs or in wien? got U .and btw your city/village name don't come with google translate.merry christmas everyone and a happy new year.boldog uj evet

Chop them up :) It will be easier to read :)

Hód-mező-vásár-hely (Beaver-field-fair-place) :D:D
Oros-háza
Békés-csaba (Peaceful-Csaba)
Szeg-halom (Spike-heap)
Berettyó-új-falu (Berettyó-new-village)

:)

Sorry for off-topic.

:)

"Szeg" in Szeghalom means curve of a river, not spike (just like in Szeged)

M85 Enese bypass was inaugurated today

Raised speed main road, 2x2, 110 km/h, 7 km

M85 Enese bypass was inaugurated today

Raised speed main road, 2x2, 110 km/h, 7 km

:applause:

Are there plans for M85 Csorna bypass? IMO Csorna bypass should have been built before Enese bypass. Road 85 looked good inside Enese when we compare it with Csorna.

^^ I think Csorna is the worst place in the country from traffic point of view. The joint section of main roads 85 and 86 is going through the downtown, and on 86 there is a level railroad crossing on a busy line too.

easier for you.and other people who understan hungarian.but how will an american understand this: are you going ti have a city breake in becs or in wien? got U .and btw your city/village name don't come with google translate.merry christmas everyone and a happy new year.boldog uj evet

Bécs and Wien on our signs are just like socks, they come in pairs :D
You will never see only Bécs written on traffic signs.

Some pictures from kisalfod.hu (http://www.kisalfold.hu/kepek/kepriport_az_enesei_elkerulorol_az_atadas_elotti_napon/2023010/2629534/) from yesterday, the day before the opening:

http://www.kisalfold.hu/kepek/kepgaleria/2629530.jpg

http://www.kisalfold.hu/kepek/kepgaleria/2629531.jpg

http://www.kisalfold.hu/kepek/kepgaleria/2629532.jpg

http://www.kisalfold.hu/kepek/kepgaleria/2629533.jpg

http://www.kisalfold.hu/kepek/kepgaleria/2629534.jpg

http://www.kisalfold.hu/kepek/kepgaleria/2629535.jpg

http://www.kisalfold.hu/kepek/kepgaleria/2629536.jpg

http://www.kisalfold.hu/kepek/kepgaleria/2629537.jpg

http://www.kisalfold.hu/kepek/kepgaleria/2629541.jpg

http://www.kisalfold.hu/kepek/kepgaleria/2629542.jpg

http://www.kisalfold.hu/kepek/kepgaleria/2629543.jpg

http://www.kisalfold.hu/kepek/kepgaleria/2629544.jpg

:cheers:

Berettyó-új-falu (Berettyó-new-village)

So the name of Czech footballer Tomas Ujfalusi means ''the fresh peasant ?'':omg:

I'd translate it to german as Thomas von Neudorf :)

Anyway, is this M85 section signed as motorroad or only the tri-prohibition sign is placed? Top speed 110 ?

^^ it's an expressway (autóút):
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2c/Semi-motorway_HU.svg/235px-Semi-motorway_HU.svg.png

M85 Enese bypass was inaugurated today

Raised speed main road, 2x2, 110 km/h, 7 km

Or expressway?

No, there is a distinction between "raised speed main road" and "expressway". One allows grade juncton, the other doesnt. Gradients, curves, everything is of "lower" quality in case of a raised speed main road.

^^ Isn't road 8 between Várpalota and Veszprém a "raised speed main road"? As I remember, speed limit is 100km/h.

Technically M85 an expressway. It matches to the requirements, but as you can see it's opened only as a riased speed main road.

Here you can see, that this the tri-prohibition sign was placed to this sign lately, maybe a sticker, under it must be an expressway simbol.
http://www.kisalfold.hu/kepek/kepgaleria/2629541.jpg

For a regular driver this doesn't means anything special, there no crossings on this road and the limit is 110km/h.

This raised speed road thing exist (I belive) beacause of some road authorities may have some problems... (They write in the article that it can't be an expressway beacuse it doesn't have a connection with the fast traffic road system, what a stupidity)

@ RawLee: Hungarian expressway regulations are allowing at grade crossings and roundabouts as far as I know(2x1 expressways, 2x2 can't have crossings)

@ Nordic20T: Yes it is, but there are plans to reconstruct it to an expresway(divided, grade separated).

^^ it's an expressway (autóút):
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2c/Semi-motorway_HU.svg/235px-Semi-motorway_HU.svg.png

NIF.hu:
"gyorsforgalmi úthálózathoz nem csatlakozik (azaz, nincs közvetlen kapcsolata az M1 autópályával sem), ezért emelt sebességű főútként kerül forgalomba helyezésre"

[it has no connection to the motorway network so it's opened as raised speed main road]

I don't undestand this thing, someone explain why. The speed limit is 110, it's kurvára all the same that it's called expressway or not. :evil:

^^ Isn't road 8 between Várpalota and Veszprém a "raised speed main road"? As I remember, speed limit is 100km/h.

yes
http://img5.indafoto.hu/4/5/99865_3cdf52a2019f03044fbe1320eb9a1a8a/11390585_65bcbae3d64dd8d64c2530b664747da3_xl.jpg

Is an opening date known for the new section of M0 between M5 and main road 51?

Also, is it known if the old piece of M0 will be given a new M number?

30th of June, 2012.
The name of the old route will be M51.

30th of June, 2012.
The name of the old route will be M51.

wow, is M51 sure?

NIF.hu:
"gyorsforgalmi úthálózathoz nem csatlakozik (azaz, nincs közvetlen kapcsolata az M1 autópályával sem), ezért emelt sebességű főútként kerül forgalomba helyezésre"

[it has no connection to the motorway network so it's opened as raised speed main road]

I don't undestand this thing, someone explain why. The speed limit is 110, it's kurvára all the same that it's called expressway or not. :evil:

According to this: http://roads.fw.hu/road_plans/m85_gyor_csorna.jpg the M85 won't have direct connection to the M1 even when it will be ready until that road. M85 will end in a roundabout (left side of the picture) at the junction of M1-85 main road.

NIF.hu:
"gyorsforgalmi úthálózathoz nem csatlakozik (azaz, nincs közvetlen kapcsolata az M1 autópályával sem), ezért emelt sebességű főútként kerül forgalomba helyezésre"

[it has no connection to the motorway network so it's opened as raised speed main road]

I don't undestand this thing, someone explain why. The speed limit is 110, it's kurvára all the same that it's called expressway or not. :evil:

I thought it was an expressway because M86, which looks similar, is an expressway (but I'm not sure any more :D). I thought these "raised speed main roads" will get green signage and a normal main road number...

According to this: http://roads.fw.hu/road_plans/m85_gyor_csorna.jpg the M85 won't have direct connection to the M1 even when it will be ready until that road. M85 will end in a roundabout (left side of the picture) at the junction of M1-85 main road.

i know that it's not connected to M1 yet but it's not problem. 61 Kaposvár bypass is far away from any motorway and signed expressway. M9 had also no connection to any motorway network (or anything) before M6 and was allways signed expressway. As I know M86 is also not expressway (although speed limit is 110). Has anyone a photo about M86 with this sign?

We stand lots of signs on these roads [Priority road, Slow vehicles prohibited, Speed limit] instead of only one [Expressway] which has the same meaning.

As I know M86 is also not expressway (although speed limit is 110).

A photo from Renault25:http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/23889491.jpg

Main road and 110 km/h (bad quality but can be seen)

As I know M86 is also not expressway (although speed limit is 110). Has anyone a photo about M86 with this sign?

http://i350.photobucket.com/albums/q420/Ripley9895/IMG_3453.jpg

Map: http://g.co/maps/4te28

Road 431
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Roundabout with Road 43
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Road 43
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through Mako towards M43
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Also notice the weather change...

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From a rest station
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^^ EU sign at an internal EU border for x-type. Nice pics, btw.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-JKs7hX5CC-Y/TvdOzZRC6YI/AAAAAAAAcXY/qEVNpIf3-7s/s912/P1060789.JPGWhat does the sign by Hegyeshalom mean? It doesn't seem to be a sign for a border crossing (customs).

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Nh_1gPwAhX8/TvdO4U85a7I/AAAAAAAAcXs/tEaklDKY5Do/s912/P1060794.JPG

So, there is the 80 km/h speed limit --> you go 80. But just a few meters away there is that autobahn sign, which means 130 km/h. How fast can you go after that sign?

The EU sign is probably old, pre Hungary entry. The other sign seems to me that in 3 km the overtaking for trucks is allowed.As far as I know in Hungary trucks over 7,5 t. can't overtake on motorways and on M1 even over 3,5t.

Interesting Austria already dismlantled the border infrastructure why Hungary did nothing.

Bogdymol, I think you are right, the motorway sign means 130 km/h so Austrians should put the 80km/h limit after that sign not before.

Interesting Austria already dismlantled the border infrastructure why Hungary did nothing.

Question: that border checkpoint at Hegyeshalom lies completely on hungarian soil, so correct me if I am wrong, but eventhough it was once shared with the Austrians, its Hungary's job to remove that complex. Right?

As far as I know in Austria the signs of motorway, expressway, inhabitated area, and the end signs of all of them do not make the speed limits invalid so that you have to drive at 80 even after that motorway sign.

^^ EU sign at an internal EU border for x-type. Nice pics, btw.

What does the sign by Hegyeshalom mean? It doesn't seem to be a sign for a border crossing (customs).
I'm not sure but I think it's a border custom sign having a red strike through which means there is no more a border station at Hegyeshalom.

^^ EU sign at an internal EU border for x-type. Nice pics, btw.


interesting one, haven't seen it anywhere else except in SLO

btw, i see on Google maps there is signed eastern bypass of Nagykanizsa (road 61). when was that road built? must be something new, right?

As far as I know in Austria the signs of motorway, expressway, inhabitated area, and the end signs of all of them do not make the speed limits invalid so that you have to drive at 80 even after that motorway sign.

You are right.

What does the sign by Hegyeshalom mean? It doesn't seem to be a sign for a border crossing (customs).

It's mandatory stop sign, saying "Határellenőrzés/Border control" from the era before Schengen but after EU, now sticked down with a red tape after Schengen, since you don't have to stop any more. Before EU it was saying "Vám/Zoll".

^^ I never knew about those temporary signs. Why don't they erase it altogether like by other ex-border crossings (Rábafüzes, Rédics, Rajka ...)?

As far as I know in Austria the signs of motorway, expressway, inhabitated area, and the end signs of all of them do not make the speed limits invalid so that you have to drive at 80 even after that motorway sign.That would mean there would have to be 130-km/h speed limit signs everywhere, but I've never seen any. They should've put the 80 sign after the motorway sign. But why would you have to drive so slowly even after the motorway sign?

^^ Take a look on bogdymol's video of austrian A4. There you can see, that the speed limit (80km/h) ends after the rest area Nickelsdorf.

^^ Take a look on bogdymol's video of austrian A4.

Where is it?

That would mean there would have to be 130-km/h speed limit signs everywhere, but I've never seen any. They should've put the 80 sign after the motorway sign. But why would you have to drive so slowly even after the motorway sign?
No, no, your understanding is wrong :-) If you drive a road outside inhabitated area which has no special speed limit (i.e. you may drive at 100 km/h) and you see a motorway sign, you may drive at 130 right after the motorway sign. But if you have a special speed limit (e.g. 80 km/h) then it is valid even after the motorway sign until it is cancelled (like THIS (http://net.jogtar.hu/jr/gen/gp2_299_97500001$BKPM__23_59$BBMP_0.png) sign). After the "end of speed limit" sign you may drive at 130 so that there's no need for a 130 sign.

Where is it?

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@1:03

^^ End-of-80 is at 1:27. That's so complicated, it should be the same in whole Europe. Btw, Austrians added general speed limit 50 km/h in built-up areas at 1:06. :cheers:

Will the motorway tolls increase in 2012?

I heard that 4-day vignette will not be available anymore since the first day of the new year. Is it true? If yes, how much will the 10-day (minimum) vignette cost next year?

^^
No official declaration until tonight. And you know the current Hungarian government can change its mind any time. So nothing is sure now.
Presumably the 4 day sticker will not be available for cars. For trucks both the 1 day and 4 day sticker remains available (it is an EU rule to offer 1 day and 4 day stickers for trucks).
For cars the 10 day sticker will probably cost 2,975 forint (approx. €9.70), yearly 42,980 forint (€140).
Calculated in euro the fees will be less than e.g. last summer because of the serious devaluation of our currency (1 euro was 265 forint half a year ago and is 306 forint today). Calculated in forint it's an increasement of 7-8% generally, and approx. 80% for people that used the 4 day sticker until now.

I heard that 4-day vignette will not be available anymore since the first day of the new year. Is it true? If yes, how much will the 10-day (minimum) vignette cost next year?

10 day vignette will cost 2975 Ft in 2012.

For me this is bad news since I mainly bought the 4-day vignette, but I also bought the 10-day vignette a couple of times.

On Saturday morning I will be one of the last persons to buy 4-day vignette in Hungary :)

^^ I'll buy mine today! :)

M43 Makó-Nagylak will be completed in 06.2014.

http://index.hu/gazdasag/magyar/2012/01/02/2014-re_er_a_hatarig_az_m43-as/

M43 Makó-Nagylak will be completed in 06.2014.

http://index.hu/gazdasag/magyar/2012/01/02/2014-re_er_a_hatarig_az_m43-as/

Nice. Hopefully the Romanian A1 from Arad to the border will be completed in 2013.

How about M44? When will the works start/complete?

Also, when M8 will be completed between M5 and M6 it will be a good alternative for avoiding M0-south (for Szeged - Gyor direction).

Actually the main road 8 (with one digit (future M8) )is the only main road, which does not start from the capital city of Budapest.
So, in time I would like to see at least an expressway or "god save me" a motorway on mainroad 8. Let see, like Veszprém (Székesfehérvár) - Dunaújváros - Szolnok - M4 to begin with. Veszprém (Lepsény) - Dunaújváros forget it!!!:nuts:

Some pics I took yesterday on M0-north (http://g.co/maps/465uk):

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https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-FoQbH1RPXpk/TwIJZvJNrrI/AAAAAAAAFXc/_r39nUd2_WA/s1024/DSC_0791.JPG

110 km/h speed limit for cars. 70 km/h for trucks seems too slow.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ANQvcDdnPfM/TwIJcREveGI/AAAAAAAAFXg/CsJAaLHZ-hw/s1024/DSC_0793.JPG

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-vOO5iIx2nNA/TwIJmxYk8UI/AAAAAAAAFXk/z6zRwjdCd1o/s1024/DSC_0801.JPG

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-KEuZRSSaAEc/TwIJsjeqj6I/AAAAAAAAFXo/n6Gn241nbm0/s1024/DSC_0806.JPG

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-5K0eIZDEjUQ/TwIJv4fJUgI/AAAAAAAAFXs/3hkCm9FVZ-4/s1024/DSC_0808.JPG

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-zH-u4g4qnkI/TwIJzrl9jbI/AAAAAAAAFXw/zt0-afFBNJE/s1024/DSC_0814.JPG

My dashboard:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-rIDCFxeBYYo/TwIJ4gWKDgI/AAAAAAAAFX0/y43Yq2lCCHY/s800/DSC_0813.JPG

^^ WTF??? What happened with your dashboard? :nuts:

Hyperspace jump :D

^ Mr. Data, Warp 5, please! :lol:

^ Mr. Data, Warp 5, please! :lol:

:lol:
http://media.teamxbox.com/games/ss/1397/1146068039.jpg

It's just some electrical problem at my Renault's dashboard. It looked like this for about 3-4 minutes, and after that went back to normal. I was driving at about 110 km/h on M0.

I thought this was yours: http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4048/4534097974_0bd3a76d21_z.jpg

Nice Renault, but I don´t think it can fly with 110 Km/h.:banana:

I thought this was yours: http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4048/4534097974_0bd3a76d21_z.jpg

it was here in Szeged in 2007 :)
http://www.carstyling.hu/galeria.php?id=536&step=20&start=0#!536-10

Thanks venom6

76-os főút Fenékpuszta - Zalaegerszeg
http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n278/venom6/45021.jpg

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n278/venom6/45025.jpg

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http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n278/venom6/45029.jpg

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n278/venom6/45030.jpg

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n278/venom6/45032.jpg

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http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n278/venom6/45036.jpg

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n278/venom6/45037.jpg

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n278/venom6/45038.jpg

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http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n278/venom6/45041.jpg

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n278/venom6/45043.jpg

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n278/venom6/45045.jpg

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n278/venom6/45046.jpg

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n278/venom6/45048.jpg
Mint a képeken is látható, több szakaszon kapaszkodósávokat építenek ki. Az út minősége az új szakaszokon nagyszerű.

The first phase of Csepel Island backbone road opened on 11.01.2011. I've made a video of it. The road is about 6 km long, the first km is a reconstruction of an another road, than it goes ona new alignment. The road is basically the bypass of Szigetszenmiklós (pop. ~35000).

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Anyway the M3 Vaja - Vásárosnamény (11,9 km) was tendered and M86 Vát - Szombathely (9,2 km) was retenderet last week.

^^Thanks for this video Falusi! This piece of road was badly needed. Looking forward to see the opening of the extension! :banana:

Today I managed to edit and upload some videos I recorded last September in Austria, Slovenia and Hungary. They are edited to be 3.5x-4.5x faster than the original video. The entire route you can see in this clips is this (http://g.co/maps/jty8w) one (each point on the map is the end of one clip and the beginning of the next one).

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^^ Half profile motorway.

*There will be music added later after YouTube AudioSwap does it's job.

You can check the rest of the videos on the Driving videos thread (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=88141032&postcount=1287).

After the video here come the pictures from M70 expressroad in Hungary, and a few ones from M7:

Entering Hungary from Slovenia:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-bAaPDeJ_yMY/Tyrhugir4CI/AAAAAAAAFoY/fnP80DrswK8/s1024/DSC_0392.JPG

Hungarian speed limits:

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-R5kb6KrPyqo/TyrilUwNjgI/AAAAAAAAFok/T1cZvO0EXK4/s1024/DSC_0394.JPG

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-D_wyyWIYdx8/TyripuTzPkI/AAAAAAAAFos/EprqJwOOcH8/s1024/DSC_0397.JPG

I hate signs placed to close to each other that reduces visibility :bash:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-OemjN2UlAAY/TyriuAIIEuI/AAAAAAAAFo0/4xOsDwSdmXI/s1024/DSC_0400.JPG

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-9vvjpET5bbE/Tyri063FLqI/AAAAAAAAFo8/49lnyETQXKU/s1024/DSC_0401.JPG

Half profile from now on...

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-tWNDZLkxNKE/Tyri4M2Tt-I/AAAAAAAAFpE/aB_CTC7u238/s1024/DSC_0402.JPG

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-kof8Mh25W5U/Tyri8hgrQdI/AAAAAAAAFpM/yIxVid1cJ9A/s1024/DSC_0406.JPG

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-UUVSdmrbAvE/TyrjCvuNEdI/AAAAAAAAFpU/yItXyaEuHEI/s1024/DSC_0410.JPG

Border crossing to Croatia for trucks at the next exit:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-v6PlSFQhSx0/TyrjIKrFX5I/AAAAAAAAFpc/Wc4Hf3wTPP0/s1024/DSC_0417.JPG

M70/M7 interchange:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-cERpsrgz1-o/TyrjPQxjJlI/AAAAAAAAFpk/Jv7oii4wPb0/s1024/DSC_0422.JPG

On the overpass of M70 over M7:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-LyKhy6jfQkc/TyrjUOcdQdI/AAAAAAAAFps/w-N2eLo85Rs/s1024/DSC_0427.JPG

On M7 motorway:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-4ORJA-edCjM/TyrjXZ7DBII/AAAAAAAAFp0/s79Z2iw__pM/s1024/DSC_0432.JPG

Big load:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-x4DqjauGhKw/TyrjfarfmUI/AAAAAAAAFp8/eOMUysmvLTc/s1024/DSC_0448.JPG

Kőröshegy viaduct:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-hfIzkq7nvdw/TyrjsUqjkMI/AAAAAAAAFqE/xkAI_xP6Jg8/s1024/DSC_0488.JPG

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-npLT-nI60VM/TyrjyKJE2pI/AAAAAAAAFqM/TXTThEcqnik/s1024/DSC_0496.JPG

Keep right!

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-y5upzrlHDHI/Tyrj7nqhogI/AAAAAAAAFqU/vptsjP1CK48/s1024/DSC_0523.JPG

M7/M0-Budapest bypass interchange:

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-K_KHKqRQaXs/TyrkFN-XO8I/AAAAAAAAFqc/QALwxNdgZI0/s1024/DSC_0548.JPG

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-jhXBIWDlkWk/TyrkMADjzNI/AAAAAAAAFqk/8S0uUChVqBo/s1024/DSC_0552.JPG

My dashboard:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-rIDCFxeBYYo/TwIJ4gWKDgI/AAAAAAAAFX0/y43Yq2lCCHY/s800/DSC_0813.JPG

Bloody hell :) you're gonna f**k up this car completly...

If you look carefully, you'll notice a dashboard of Renault Laguna Second generation that doesn't know what a speed limit is. My work here is done.

Pavement structure construction
running on the M3

One year after launching the works,
handing over of the site is now complete on
the entire main carriageway, enabling works to
proceed undisturbed on Colas-Hungária’s section.
We managed to achieve significant progress
regarding earthworks – until October, some 1.7
million cubic metres of built-in material was
submitted to the Client for compensation in the
form of soil replacement, embankments, improving
and protective layers, indicating a 70% completion
level. Progress is also spectacular with respect
to road base construction, where we averaged
over 1500 tonnes/day in building the unstressed
C12/15 concrete pavement base course. On
aggregate, 18 616 m3 of cement-bound road base
has been completed from the pavement structure
originally designed with a layer of CKt.
One of the key events of recent months is that
we have received an order from our consortium
partner, Közgép Zrt, for construction of the main
carriageway pavement structure on their section.
Colas-Hungária and Strabag established a joint
paving team to complete the required asphalt
trial section, with both companies delegating an
asphalt paving crew and two rollers to the unit. We
expect that Hungary’s longest stretch of motorway
will be available for those visiting their relatives
during next year’s Christmas holidays.

M43 interchange near Mako, Hungary:


http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/7146/p1250757resize.jpg

More pictures on the Romanian section (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=88450655#post88450655).

U/C M3 between Nyíregyháza and Main road 49...

Aerial shots...

http://www.nif.hu/hu/multimedia/M3_Nyiregyhaza-Vasarosnameny_kozotti_szakasz_epitese_-_2012._jan

Pictures by National Infrastructure Developer (NIF):

http://www.nif.hu/upload/gallery/2770/cc/s_17566.jpg

http://www.nif.hu/upload/gallery/2770/00/s_17565.jpg

http://www.nif.hu/upload/gallery/2770/97/s_17567.jpg

http://www.nif.hu/upload/gallery/2770/9e/s_17569.jpg

http://www.nif.hu/upload/gallery/2770/2b/s_17570.jpg

http://www.nif.hu/upload/gallery/2770/5e/s_17574.jpg

http://www.nif.hu/upload/gallery/2770/18/s_17575.jpg

http://www.nif.hu/upload/gallery/2770/3b/s_17579.jpg

http://www.nif.hu/upload/gallery/2770/75/s_17582.jpg

http://www.nif.hu/upload/gallery/2770/83/s_17583.jpg

http://www.nif.hu/upload/gallery/2770/64/s_17585.jpg

http://www.nif.hu/upload/gallery/2770/f8/s_17589.jpg

Some more:

http://www.nif.hu/upload/gallery/2770/5c/s_17592.jpg

http://www.nif.hu/upload/gallery/2770/75/s_17596.jpg

http://www.nif.hu/upload/gallery/2770/00/s_17598.jpg

http://www.nif.hu/upload/gallery/2770/99/s_17599.jpg

http://www.nif.hu/upload/gallery/2770/1d/s_17600.jpg

http://www.nif.hu/upload/gallery/2770/c1/s_17603.jpg

http://www.nif.hu/upload/gallery/2770/2a/s_17605.jpg

http://www.nif.hu/upload/gallery/2770/1e/s_17612.jpg

http://www.nif.hu/upload/gallery/2770/cd/s_17614.jpg

http://www.nif.hu/upload/gallery/2770/a6/s_17617.jpg

http://www.nif.hu/upload/gallery/2770/d0/s_17619.jpg

http://www.nif.hu/upload/gallery/2770/40/s_17648.jpg

:cheers:

^^ of course the construction site is between Nyíregyháza and Őr (main road 49), and not Vásárosnamény (that will be the next section)...

It looks to me that the opening could be in late 2012. When is it scheduled?

It looks to me that the opening could be in late 2012. When is it scheduled?

This november...

Some more:

http://www.nif.hu/upload/gallery/2770/5c/s_17592.jpg

I see two power lines not relocated yet. Something similar often happens in Romania too. But it is very strange to see embankments built around some power supply poles. How could those poles be removed afterwards without damaging the compacted embankment?

I see two power lines not relocated yet. Something similar often happens in Romania too. But it is very strange to see embankments built around some power supply poles. How could those poles be removed afterwards without damaging the compacted embankment?

My questions would be: how did they properly compact the embankments around those poles in the first place?

I assume they've constructed an alternate transmission line, and tear this one down once the new one goes into operation. Otherwise it's weird.

^^ of course the construction site is between Nyíregyháza and Őr (main road 49), and not Vásárosnamény (that will be the next section)...

and in the future it will pass into the Ukraine ?

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/3315/sscy.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/46/sscy.jpg/)

and in the future it will pass into the Ukraine ?

Yes, right now the construction of the motorway will end at the town of Vásárosnamény about 20kms from the border, in 2013 dec, untill the intergovernmental agreement is reached on the future border crossing and the Ukrainian side starts building the connecting infrastructure.

^^ yes, the border crossing will be at Barabás (http://g.co/maps/99ytz) (H) and Diyda (http://g.co/maps/cs994) (Beregdéda) (UA).

When built (completion deadline: 09.30.2013) this will be the easternmost access point (towards the CIS) of the integrated EU motorway system.

the border crossing will be at Barabás (http://g.co/maps/99ytz) (H) and Diyda (http://g.co/maps/cs994) (Beregdéda) (UA).

On the Ukrainian side, the road will go to Mukachevo?

^^ yes, but we don't know much about the Ukrainian plans.

5000 :D