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Superfish April 8th, 2007, 09:11 AM Fontainebleau Resort Hotel, Las Vegas
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http://bleaulasvegas.com/
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Older Renderings
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/fontainebleau20rendering20070719.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/fontainebleau20closeup20tower200707.jpg
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Glass Sample Color
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2,880 hotel units
1,020 resort condominium units
Height: 735ft/224m
Cost: $2.8 billion
Total Interior Area: 7,046,928 sq. ft.
Type: Resort Casino/Condominium/Hotel
Exterior: Glass/Blue (see sample image below)
Opening Date: late 2009
Architect: Bergman Walls and Associates
Heights of other structures.
Garage: 200ft
Podium: 100ft
Features:
Zen garden
Theater/Showroom
Buffet
Convention Center
Pool Deck
Agenda Sheet
http://dsnet.co.clark.nv.us/dsnetapps/agendaweb/Data/P0208470.htm
Location;
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&z=18&ll=36.137407,-115.159137&spn=0.001854,0.003648&t=k&om=1
Built by Turnberry Associates, who also owned the original Fontainebleau resort in Miami Florida.
This has been one of the more secretive megaresort projects in Vegas. Virtually no renderings have been released, yet the hotel is clearly under construction from visual observations. We have photos of samples of the glass as well as ironically enough, a low res model of the hotel found in the massing rendering for a nearby proposed megaresort to the north.
I have found one render from the county archive that the developers submitted, but it is in black and white.
Construction of main tower foundation is underway, with work even extending after dusk.
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-Corey- April 8th, 2007, 09:28 AM wow,, a new taller for Las Vegas.
Superfish April 8th, 2007, 09:32 AM Excluding the Stratosphere Tower, this is the tallest hotel and building in Vegas under construction right now.
mdiederi April 8th, 2007, 11:28 AM Great, a new Vegas construction thread to follow.
Do you have a link to the planning commission agenda sheet?
The black and white render looks a lot shorter than the model.
Just noticed those pointed things jutting out from the roof. Is that supposed to cast a shadow like the sun dial building in Dubai, or something?
ZZ-II April 8th, 2007, 12:07 PM great addition for Vegas
Muse April 9th, 2007, 12:25 AM Las Vegas really has entered a new era and is set to become an amazing "skyscraper capital". No more gimmicky nor kitsch resorts that were built during the 90s, even though they will have their place in modern history. Vegas is all about tastefulness in this current construction cycle.
BTW I tried to find a more detailed render of Fontainebleau but without success. If anyone can find 1 or 2, that would be great. I wanna see what a $2.4 billion resort looks like LOL ;)
...and thanks for posting Superfish :okay:
Skyman April 9th, 2007, 06:45 AM As always one more nice complex to the Vegas skyline
gpz137 April 9th, 2007, 07:03 PM Superfish! Awesome - I'm stoked you started this thread. Here's some detail of the foundation work from the other day:
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p131/gdog137/Fontainebleau/CIMG0595.jpg
Superfish April 9th, 2007, 07:53 PM http://i13.tinypic.com/301d0lf.jpg
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Taylorhoge April 9th, 2007, 08:25 PM Nice I like the blueprint pic
Superfish April 9th, 2007, 08:34 PM The more I look at it, the more unusual the hotel tower seems to be. It has a unique horseshoe shaped curve unlike any other towers, including the newer Curved ones like Wynn.
And then it seems to have two triangle thingys sticking out near the top as well. Could those be swimming pools? (Similar to the Palms but thoseare much smaller and do not stick out that much).
The Zen garden is a nice touch, maybe the hotel will have a light zen theme throughout but that is just speculation.
The hotel seems to make very efficient use of space, leaving almost no large outdoor areas for lakes,etc. on the street as with other resorts. There is a good line of restaurants with outside seating however which serves to brighten up the sidewalk with some activity.
philip April 9th, 2007, 11:52 PM Looks boring. That's the overall impression. I hope it will look better when they add colors to the renderings.
ROYU April 10th, 2007, 02:30 AM It will be massive.
gpz137 April 10th, 2007, 03:57 AM 50,000 sq feet of pool features? As in 15 swimming pools? Am I interpreting this right?
Superfish April 10th, 2007, 06:27 AM Numbers don't lie.
There seems to be an absurd amount of separate pools with on several different pool decks. As Fontainebleau has a decent amount of condo-hotel units, they may want to provide separate pool areas for these owners as opposed to regular hotel guests.
mdiederi April 14th, 2007, 11:24 PM STEEL!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/Font7.jpg
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mdiederi April 14th, 2007, 11:33 PM Tower Crane Parts
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/Font3.jpg
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gpz137 April 15th, 2007, 04:13 AM Mark,
Thanks so much for the excellent pictures. I can't believe how fast this thing is coming out of the ground. I know that's just the parking garage/convention space but still, wow. I think Fontainebleau under Glenn Schaeffer's (http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2005/May-13-Fri-2005/business/1617735.html) direction will be an amazing resort. Looks like the constuction crane is being errected at the main tower site?
Bori427 April 15th, 2007, 05:10 AM Great pictures!
hello345 April 15th, 2007, 05:20 AM I hope this tower will be all glass! I hate tower like the hilton!
mdiederi April 15th, 2007, 07:14 AM I know that's just the parking garage/convention space but still, wow.
Yeah, I think those steel beams are the west edge of the convention center/garage structure. They're still drilling some more holes in the hotel tower area, but there are forms and rebar for columns stacked up all over the place.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/font3.jpg
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/font4.jpg
I think Fontainebleau under Glenn Schaeffer's (http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2005/May-13-Fri-2005/business/1617735.html) direction will be an amazing resort. Schaeffer is as solid as a rock. I put him right up there with Kirkorian, Wynn and Adelson as one of top people who shaped the modern Las Vegas Strip.
Looks like the constuction crane is being errected at the main tower site?
I couldn't really tell from the sidewalk if the tower crane base I spotted is fixed to the ground yet or just sitting there waiting to be put in position, but it was right in the middle of the lot, probably where the east wing of the tower will go.
philip April 15th, 2007, 10:49 AM I hope this tower will be all glass! I hate tower like the hilton!
Hilton is the ugliest New hotel tower in Vegas, uglier than the Aladdin in my opinion.
Superfish April 15th, 2007, 09:26 PM Looks like Fontainebleau is kicking it up a notch with the cranes. Great photos.
hotdog April 17th, 2007, 06:36 AM Some news and numbers on Fontainebleau
http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/nevada/2007/apr/16/041610941.html
Superfish April 17th, 2007, 06:50 AM Thanks for the info. Main page updated with the project cost...
mdiederi April 17th, 2007, 07:35 PM Also, James Packer is buying nearly 20% of the privately held company for $250 million. (http://www.valleyblogs.com/mckee/2007-04-16/id_2238)
mdiederi April 20th, 2007, 09:09 AM A special planning commission meeting (http://dsnet.co.clark.nv.us/dsnetapps/agendaweb/Data/042407bccweb.htm) has been added for next week and the only item on the agenda is Fontainebleau (they spelled it Fontainableau in the title and Fountaebleau in the text, LOL). Basically, they are just going over the Development Agreement, but they mention that the resort will have a total of 7,046,928 square feet of developed floor space. I don't think that figure was included in the previous data. That's more than double the 3,100,000 sq. ft. we originally thought it was going to be.
zerokarma April 20th, 2007, 09:42 PM Nice pics, good update
ALKUN April 20th, 2007, 11:57 PM IT'S GOING TO BE A GREAT RESORT. NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT.
MY ONLY QUESTION IS HOW THEY ARE GOING TO SELL THEIR CONDO UNITS IF THEY KEEP IT SO SECRET ?
Superfish April 22nd, 2007, 05:15 AM ....That's more than double the 3,100,000 sq. ft. we originally thought it was going to be.
That is a HUGE change, I wonder where it's going to go? Convention space? I'll update the stats for now.
EDIT - Actually no, it's stated in that 2nd blueprint I posted on the first page (on the right side). I guess my 3,000,000 figure was a much earlier figure or related to hotel space only.
mdiederi April 22nd, 2007, 05:44 AM Ah, I see. The original County Planning Agenda page didn't give a total figure either. Strange they would release blueprints but not a rendering. Where'd you find those blueprints anyway? Good sleuthing. :)
Middle-Island April 22nd, 2007, 05:53 AM "Massive" yes...Although can't they build anything that's not wide or squat in Las Vegas? It's getting a little monotonous.
foadi April 22nd, 2007, 06:11 AM "Massive" yes...Although can't they build anything that's not wide or squat in Las Vegas? It's getting a little monotonous.
agreed
mdiederi April 22nd, 2007, 06:30 AM "Massive" yes...Although can't they build anything that's not wide or squat in Las Vegas? It's getting a little monotonous.
737 feet tall is squat? I guess it is in relation to the width. It was originally supposed to be taller, over a thousand feet, and probably narrower, but the planning commission wouldn't approve the height. The developer needs that many rooms to make it economical, so it had to get wider. That's just the way it is here.
Superfish April 22nd, 2007, 06:31 AM Ah, I see. The original County Planning Agenda page didn't give a total figure either. Strange they would release blueprints but not a rendering. Where'd you find those blueprints anyway? Good sleuthing. :)
The Clark County Planning and Development Archives
RateVegasHunter April 23rd, 2007, 09:58 AM I don't mean to hijack the thread but I wanted to quickly say that I've been following the progression, thanks to my friend Brian. I run some Web sites that deal with these issues and thus I'm very interested to hear everyone's thoughts on these projects. Great stuff here guys!!
mdiederi April 23rd, 2007, 05:25 PM Thanks Hunter! I check your www.TwoWayHardThree.com site often for scoops on things. Some of the people who comment there have a lot of info about what happens on the inside of these buildings.
Alweron April 23rd, 2007, 09:32 PM I can't understand people, who live in the middle of a desert. I'm sure Las Vegas is a great place to visit, but who wants to live there?
foadi April 24th, 2007, 05:02 AM I can't understand people, who live in the middle of a desert. I'm sure Las Vegas is a great place to visit, but who wants to live there?
it's not really different from other cities, you just have more entertainment options.
Superfish April 24th, 2007, 08:07 AM Glad to see more people interested but please keep the thread on topic. If you want to discuss general Vegas development questions, you can go to the main Vegas thread in my signature. We need more frequent contributers and posters in there anyway. :)
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gpz137 May 1st, 2007, 01:08 AM Fontaintebleau's staging area. Might also be the beginnings of their temporary concrete plant off to the left there:
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p131/gdog137/LVTI/CIMG0673.jpg
Here's the foundation work from Arpil 27th. They were pouring the first conrete pillars yesterday.
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p131/gdog137/Fontainebleau/FontainebleauandTurnberry.jpg
The El Rancho sign gets chipped away at. A couple guys with blowtorches rain steel down onto the ground at night.
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p131/gdog137/Fontainebleau/HO.jpg
gpz137 May 1st, 2007, 01:20 AM Here's another interesting observation I made about the Fontainebleau foundation construction. Extensive modifications were made to the foundation after it was already started. The second rendition of the foundation is much deeper and much stronger. Wonder if they are going to make one more run at getting their original request for a 1000 foot tower passed? Or not.
First picture from March 31:
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p131/gdog137/Fontainebleau/CIMG0595.jpg
And now after they excavated around each poured footing, jackhammered out all the exposed concrete pillars and then finally built large rectangular massive steel reinforced concrete structures to put the piers on.
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p131/gdog137/Fontainebleau/Mistake.jpg
mdiederi May 1st, 2007, 03:10 AM The second rendition of the foundation is much deeper and much stronger. Wonder if they are going to make one more run at getting their original request for a 1000 foot tower passed?[/IMG]
That would be really cool.
Great photos!
gpz137 May 1st, 2007, 06:28 PM From the In Business Las Vegas (http://www.inbusinesslasvegas.com/2007/04/27/gaming.html):
"Under the radar has been the work already under way at the Fontainebleau site, the $2.8 billion development by the owners of the adjacent Turnberry Towers, former Mandalay Resort Group President Glenn Schaeffer and Australian casino powerhouse Publishing & Broadcasting Ltd.
One of the hallmarks of Mandalay Resort Group was its ability to build great properties for less than others, and I have a feeling that the $2.8 billion project will end up looking like it cost $4 billion.
Fontainebleau executives are tightlipped about their project - and about their reported involvement in a casino resort project in Vietnam - but their Strip resort is a project I'm looking forward to."
philip May 2nd, 2007, 01:34 AM I wish they will finally release a more detailed rendering.
raditton May 3rd, 2007, 02:00 AM Hello All,
I have placed a web cam in my 34 th floor unit in Turnberry Place which is adjacent to the Fontainebleau site. If you would like to access the camera, just go to http://turnberry.raditton.com:84 and use:
id: guest
password:guest
The resolution of the camera is not great and there is a lot of glare in the afternoon, but it has pan/tilt and zoom capability. I will try to keep it up during the duration of the project if people are interested.
mdiederi May 3rd, 2007, 02:21 AM That's great! Now we'll have a view form above from both sides, Sky and Turnberry. :okay:
CHAPINM1 May 3rd, 2007, 06:20 AM Thank you very much raditton, your link is greatly appreaciated!!! ;)
mdiederi May 3rd, 2007, 06:47 AM I was googling earlier looking for information about Las Vegas Tower and I noticed that in this SEC Form 8-k second amendment to the land purchase agreement (http://esignal.brand.edgar-online.com/EFX_dll/EDGARpro.dll?FetchFilingHTML1?SessionID=b3J3jTdF57mHssV&ID=4838371) that it also explains a temporary lease of the land to a third party (Fontainebleau) that can be terminated 60 days after LVT1 takes title to the land. So that explains what's going on the lot to the north. Fontainebleau is probably paying for all that grading over there.
gpz137 May 4th, 2007, 06:46 AM Hello All,
I have placed a web cam in my 34 th floor unit in Turnberry Place which is adjacent to the Fontainebleau site. If you would like to access the camera, just go to http://turnberry.raditton.com:84 and use:
id: guest
password:guest
The resolution of the camera is not great and there is a lot of glare in the afternoon, but it has pan/tilt and zoom capability. I will try to keep it up during the duration of the project if people are interested.
Dude! This is great. Thanks so much. I was just about to do the same thing from Sky on the other side. What camera are you using? The quality is pretty good, really.
Jim856796 May 4th, 2007, 08:22 AM The El Rancho sign gets chipped away at. A couple guys with blowtorches rain steel down onto the ground at night.
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p131/gdog137/Fontainebleau/HO.jpg
The El Rancho sign is being destroyed?
AltiusAltiusAltius May 4th, 2007, 01:00 PM For crying out loud, how come they're building something without any renderings or further details released? What a strange marketing strategy lol :ohno:
gpz137 May 4th, 2007, 07:46 PM For crying out loud, how come they're building something without any renderings or further details released? What a strange marketing strategy lol :ohno:
I'm choosing to believe that it's because they have some revolutionary or at least original design elements that they don't want to tip their hand on. There are nearby competitors that could integrate these elements into their own developments since they have not broken ground yet.
EloyBr May 5th, 2007, 08:07 AM it'll be a great building... :okay:
raditton May 5th, 2007, 11:11 PM Dude! This is great. Thanks so much. I was just about to do the same thing from Sky on the other side. What camera are you using? The quality is pretty good, really.
I am using a 4xem IP network cam. Their website is
http://www.4xem.com/products/wireless/IPCAMWLPTZ/index.html
I put them up all over my place to keep track of the contractors. They work out pretty well.
Hope you all are enjoying the camera. The sound of contruction down there is continuous.
ALKUN May 6th, 2007, 01:32 AM it'll be a great building... :okay:
YES IT WILL.
I JUST CAN'T WAIT TO SEE A RENDER.
I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY ARE WAITING SO LONG.:ohno:
mdiederi May 6th, 2007, 02:02 AM Might also be the beginnings of their temporary concrete plant off to the left there:
Yep, this just appeared on the Las Vegas Tower site. Obviously for Fontainebleau use.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/fontbatch.jpg
And the pile-o-crane parts keeps getting bigger.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/fontcraneparts.jpg
mdiederi May 9th, 2007, 04:26 PM Who is the general contractor on this project?
Superfish May 9th, 2007, 09:49 PM The only thing I could find states a "Turnberry West Construction"
The structural engineer is John A. Martin & Associates, Inc.
http://www.johnmartin.com/
mdiederi May 22nd, 2007, 10:13 AM http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/Font1-2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/Font2-2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Font4.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Font3.jpg
CHAPINM1 May 22nd, 2007, 06:04 PM Core starting to rise?!
gpz137 May 23rd, 2007, 05:38 AM First big pour for the central core is close. They have been laying in massive amounts of rebar. Also, they are erecting the first on-site crane now. (The blue one.) The second one is also starting to rise. I'm sure there will be a third on the far end of the building as well. This thing looks huge. I'll post pictures from above tomorrow.
mdiederi May 23rd, 2007, 08:26 AM Thanks, I didn't know how to answer that question because I couldn't tell if that was a core on the end or not. The lot is very big and kind of hard to tell what's going on from the perimeter.
But I did notice that the old marquee is finally gone.
gpz137 May 25th, 2007, 09:13 PM Allrightythen. Here are the latest. And possibly my last. Bruce, you may have to pick it up from here.
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p131/gdog137/Fontainebleau/CIMG0893.jpg
Here, you can see all three cranes:
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p131/gdog137/Fontainebleau/CIMG0897.jpg
Closeup of the core:
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p131/gdog137/Fontainebleau/CIMG0895.jpg
Parking structure and convention space:
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p131/gdog137/Fontainebleau/CIMG0896.jpg
mdiederi May 26th, 2007, 12:22 AM Are you moving out of Sky? You can sure tell what's going on a lot better from up there.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/font3-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/font1-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/font2-1.jpg
gpz137 May 26th, 2007, 01:31 AM Nice shots from the Sahara and Riv perspectives! Yeah, when Fontainebleau starts coming out of the ground, it will be easier to get some good shots from ground level. I had to lease my unit out for now, so I won't have access to it for over a year. We'll see if we can get someone else in Sky to post some pics.
Superfish May 26th, 2007, 01:42 AM Thanks for the overhead shots.
I was looking at the core picture for a second and was thinking the tower was kinda small- then I realized I was looking at the core! Huge.
Look at the blueprint for the elevators on the first page and it matches up so guess we shouldn't be so surprised.
There are three cranes, but I'm assuming there will be a final one on the west end making a total of 4 cranes wow!
Minor observation but that blue crane you see there looks exactly like the one used to build Turnberry Towers. Fontainebleau is done by Turnberry too so...could it be the same crane now seen on two different buildings?
gpz137 May 26th, 2007, 02:42 AM I watched them bring in the pieces to the staging lot. Every piece looks brand new. Could be refurbished but that seems unilikely. Here's a cool shot of the whole blue tower. Right after I took this shot they brought over the top section in pieces and started assembling them on the ground. I had to leave before they were lifted into place. They do the crane building at night. Probably for safety reasons.
Shoot - forgot to upload to Photobucket. I'll post the pic tomorrow.
giovani kun May 26th, 2007, 10:38 AM fantastic puctures interesting sky shots :)
mdiederi June 12th, 2007, 06:50 PM http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/Font11.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/Font10.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/Font9-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/Font8-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/Font3-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/Font.jpg
giovani kun June 12th, 2007, 10:32 PM the power lines are quite close to the project rising structure ..anyway ..long time till finish for this one :cheers:
mdiederi June 13th, 2007, 01:03 AM Yeah, I hope they get rid of the power lines. There seem to be a lot of overhead power lines in this city.
This is the rendering that was in the paper the other day.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/fonttp9.jpg
R@ptor June 13th, 2007, 02:54 PM Great updates.
Is this the site where the Wet 'n' Wild Waterpark once was?
mdiederi June 13th, 2007, 05:57 PM No, but it's right next door to it. Crown Las Vegas (formerly known as Las Vegas Tower) will be on the Wet 'n' Wild Waterpark site. This is on the site of the former Thunderbird, later known as the El Rancho (not to be confused with the original El Rancho across the Strip that burned down).
mdiederi June 15th, 2007, 06:23 PM http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/Font12.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/Font7-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/Font6-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/Font5-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/Font4-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/Font2-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/FONT1.jpg
mdiederi June 16th, 2007, 02:21 AM Balconies
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/458189400_11e2c3c3af_o.jpg
mdiederi June 23rd, 2007, 02:01 AM They started erecting a couple more tower cranes.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/Font3-2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/Font2-3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/FONT6.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/FONT4.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/FONT5.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/Font1-1.jpg
Superfish June 27th, 2007, 09:07 PM Our tallest U/C building is going up fast.
gpz137 July 8th, 2007, 08:51 PM Info from an Application Information card I just received in the mail:
The Fontainebleau is asking to increase the height of its podium building along LV Blvd from 81 feet to 111 feet, from 137 feet to 164 feet along Riviera and raise the garages/convention center building bordering Turnberry Place to a whopping 215 feet. And finally, Fontainebleau is also asking to build a cooling tower and "acoustic screen wall" along Riviera Blvd that would be 26 stories tall.
No mention of raising the main tower's height from the planned 735 feet.
Other requests from Fontainebleau to build temporary storage buildings on the LVTI lot and to build a 2-story sales center across the street next to Sky.
mdiederi July 8th, 2007, 09:13 PM The frame they are constructing over on the convention side sure looks beefy enough to go much taller.
gpz137 July 8th, 2007, 09:43 PM The frame they are constructing over on the convention side sure looks beefy enough to go much taller.
No kidding. And looking at how they went back and strengthened the tower's main foundation after already beginning construction made me think they were hedging their bets that they could increase the height of the main tower at some point during construction. Fontainebleau was originally planned to be 1000 feet tall anyway and now with their neighbor to the north asking for 1888 feet... I was really excited when I first started reading this Application Information card thinking, "This is it! Just what I was hoping for!" But no, just the podium building.
Superfish July 10th, 2007, 04:41 AM just the podium huh? That's too bad then.
We'll get our supertall someday.
Crown could do it, or some will go near the Strat or from MGM's north strip project. The odds are pretty good.
Anyhow I don't really want something that wide being 1000ft, if hotels are supposed to wider as with many others on the strip Fontainebleau to go higher would make it way too imposing.
Leave supertalls to more traditional building designs.
kangarooMN09 July 10th, 2007, 08:46 AM first 200m+ tower for Las Vegas, congratssss
gpz137 July 12th, 2007, 02:48 AM A million additional square feet here, a million there and pretty soon you have an 8 million square foot resort! Well, I guess that's what you get when you raise a 20 some-odd acre sized podium building nearly 30 feet up....
http://dsnet.co.clark.nv.us/dsnetapps/agendaweb/Data/P0219043.htm
Superfish July 12th, 2007, 03:27 AM Fontainebleau will be a beast of a resort. Unlike Palazzo it's concrete too.
At 737ft it's taller than Hoover Dam! (726ft)
You have all stared down the dam's downstream side and thought the river was far far below, well the view from top of Fontainebleau will be the same.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoover_dam
Maxwell Thomas July 12th, 2007, 03:55 AM Great addition!
mdiederi July 12th, 2007, 04:38 PM http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/Font2-4.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/Font3-3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/Font1-3.jpg
mdiederi July 14th, 2007, 12:07 AM http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/Font3-4.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/Font1-4.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/FONT4-2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/Font2-5.jpg
Superfish July 14th, 2007, 12:37 AM The 4th tower crane is finally going up. It is blue of course to keep things matching :)
mdiederi July 14th, 2007, 01:08 AM Ah, things change fast at these construction sites. I shot those last pictures three days ago. You can see the base for the forth tower crane in the next to last photo.
Muse July 14th, 2007, 01:16 AM Thanks for the last 2 rounds of pics mdiederi :okay: Much appreciated.
This is the rendering that was in the paper the other day.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/fonttp9.jpg^^...and this is the only render we have so far? It looks almost as wide as it is tall.
mdiederi July 14th, 2007, 01:28 AM A million additional square feet here, a million there and pretty soon you have an 8 million square foot resort! Well, I guess that's what you get when you raise a 20 some-odd acre sized podium building nearly 30 feet up....
http://dsnet.co.clark.nv.us/dsnetapps/agendaweb/Data/P0219043.htm
I was just reading that and it says they miscalculated an additional 464,809 square feet of floor space in the original plans. That's a lot of floor to overlook.
Dale July 14th, 2007, 01:58 AM Is it my imagination, or do they get stuff built faster in Vegas ?
Superfish July 14th, 2007, 04:57 AM The sooner a resort opens, the sooner it makes money.
-Corey- July 14th, 2007, 05:02 AM Exactly.. Every yearh there is a new hotel.. a luxury hotel, and each new hotel is better than the old one haha
-Corey- July 16th, 2007, 06:33 AM taken today
http://www.vegastodayandtomorrow.com/images/Fontainebleau%20construction%20070615.jpg
mdiederi July 16th, 2007, 06:41 PM taken today
No, I shot that last week. Look at post #87. There's a new crane not in that picture that they put up since then.
Superfish July 16th, 2007, 09:28 PM The crane is fully assembled and operational now. It's quite a sight.
You get a good feel for how wide the tower is.
-Corey- July 16th, 2007, 09:33 PM No, I shot that last week. Look at post #87. There's a new crane not in that picture that they put up since then.
oh really?? i saw that pic on lasvegastomorow.com and it said july 15th.
mdiederi July 21st, 2007, 10:48 PM New renders.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/fontainebleau20rendering20070719.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/fontainebleau20closeup20tower200707.jpg
mdiederi July 23rd, 2007, 11:13 PM Story about Fontainebleau and Turnberry Place nimbys.
http://lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/sun/2007/jul/23/566673361.html
Muse July 24th, 2007, 01:24 AM ^^ Geez, it's like city NIMBYs everywhere. They buy downtown expecting to have a suburban view forever. It's quite unrealistic and sad. :|
Thanks for the story and renders mdiederi
Sentient Seas July 24th, 2007, 06:34 AM Good for Vegas.
Chris85 July 25th, 2007, 01:16 AM Thanks for the updates mdiederi. I like the new renders. The podium looks amazing and it will certainly look good at street level. The height of the tower is also something to look forward to.
Superfish July 25th, 2007, 06:32 AM The Turnberry Nimby's are making a commotion on all the news channels the past days, they sure love the publicity.
I understand their feelings but it's not like anyone can prevent this when the law on views is clear and it's the strip for crying out loud. It's not like a high rise going up next to some single family houses or something where they can argue on grounds of noise, traffic, etc.
I do think they are mostly angry because Turnberry has a stake in Fontainebleau and even though they built Turnberry Place too, they did not inform them.
mdiederi July 28th, 2007, 02:21 AM http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/font1-5.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/font3-5.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/font5-2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/font2-6.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/font4-3.jpg
Superfish July 28th, 2007, 04:32 AM Yep all four cranes are there. That tower will be great.
Muse July 28th, 2007, 05:05 PM Cool construction pics.
I do think they are mostly angry because Turnberry has a stake in Fontainebleau and even though they built Turnberry Place too, they did not inform them.That is not unusual either. Developers are always selling out towers before they start on a tower right next door. They never even put the newer tower in the renders, on websites etc, even thugh these in question are totally different developments.
romanamerican July 29th, 2007, 11:09 PM when are thay going to finish this building? the project looks great!
gpz137 July 30th, 2007, 07:31 PM Mark, thanks so much for the pictures. I have not been out there in a while and I was having withdrawals not seeing the progress. This thing is huge. And so close to the road. Should be quite a sight once one rounds the corner up there by the Venetian.
rossie1977 July 31st, 2007, 02:49 AM when are thay going to finish this building? the project looks great!
Scheduled to open late 2008/early 2009.
Personally i can't wait for this one, its my favourite project in Vegas at this present time.
gpz137 July 31st, 2007, 03:18 AM Fontainebleau's neighbors across the street: http://www.lvrj.com/business/8804437.html
Might give us an idea of how much per foot Fontainebleau's condo/hotel rooms might sell for. This guy's 475 foot high penthouse suite will have another 250+ feet of Fontainebleau to look up at.
Superfish August 1st, 2007, 06:16 AM I still get blown away when imagining how wide and tall the tower will be, if Sky is only 500ft and it's certainly not tiny by any means...
I was reminded the other day of Krystle Sands, remember that? It was one of the first condo towers during the boom back then and famously among the first to get canceled. There is probably a picture of it on VTAT site..eh never mind... it must have been so early he doesn't even have a render of it on his site at all. It was ugly anyway. Sky was proposed at around the same time and was far better.
Anyway it occupied the space of the old , gah what was that motel that used to be there... forgot the name. But that land cut a huge chunk into the current Fontainebleau plot. Even more it would have taken the valuable street corner sandwiching Fontainebleau in the middle. I'm thinking Fontainebleau would be very different if Krystle sands didn't get canceled and Turnberry bought it out.
kangarooMN09 August 1st, 2007, 07:58 AM whoa it's already going up!
rossie1977 August 1st, 2007, 04:35 PM I still get blown away when imagining how wide and tall the tower will be, if Sky is only 500ft and it's certainly not tiny by any means....
Yes imagine one of the excalibur towers (each 240 feet tall) on top of the 500ft Sky and you have an idea of the height of Fountainebleau.
Anyway it occupied the space of the old , gah what was that motel that used to be there... forgot the name. But that land cut a huge chunk into the current Fontainebleau plot. Even more it would have taken the valuable street corner sandwiching Fontainebleau in the middle. I'm thinking Fontainebleau would be very different if Krystle sands didn't get canceled and Turnberry bought it out
Algiers is the motel you are thinking about
Cidade_Branca August 2nd, 2007, 12:06 AM These projects of Las Vegas are all the same... no difference... see my proposal (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=14572935#post14572935)for Las Vegas.
Rizzato August 2nd, 2007, 12:19 AM look at how wide the building is...thats floor space right there. hotels, function rooms, casinos...its whats inside that counts.
Superfish August 2nd, 2007, 07:06 AM Algiers is the motel you are thinking about
Yea that's what it was, thanks.
mdiederi August 3rd, 2007, 09:20 AM VegasTodayAndTomorrow.com has a pretty good shot of the breadth of the tower.
http://www.vegastodayandtomorrow.com/images/fontainebleau%20construction%20070725.jpg
Looks like it was shot from a good vantage point in the Riviera hotel.
Superfish August 4th, 2007, 06:05 AM I havn't checked, the width could be comparable to Wynn's and thus not too extraordinary. It will make up for it with sheer height as well as the podium structure.
Closer view of podium in the back...
http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/7599/dsci0092oi3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
gpz137 August 6th, 2007, 06:12 PM Mark, you rock.
http://www.vegastodayandtomorrow.com/images/fontainebleau%20rendering%20807night.jpg
mdiederi August 6th, 2007, 11:10 PM 3 floors collapsed at the Fontainebleau parking garage today.
http://klas-tv.com/Global/story.asp?S=6892276
No injuries.
Second accident in less than a week. One of the workers from the earlier accident died at the hospital.
This is a Turnberry project and I remember they had a floor collapse on Turnberry Towers.
Fontainebleau released the following statement:
During the course of construction this morning, a pre-cast twin tee, an isolated part of the Fontainebleau garage collapsed, causing a domino effect before stopping at a concrete slab several levels below. We are thankful to be able to report that no injuries were incurred. We have suspended all construction on and within the garage complex until a full investigation of the cause of the accident can be completed.
Superfish August 7th, 2007, 01:10 AM yikes another one? That's a bit too much in such a short amount of time for one project, thank god there are no deaths this time.
To be fair, workers have died CityCenter (prefab concrete wall fell on them) and Trump (guy fell down elevator shaft) too.
Channel 8 story link
http://www.lasvegasnow.com/Global/story.asp?S=6892276
SeViNiYo August 7th, 2007, 01:43 AM wow nice building
Superfish August 7th, 2007, 02:52 AM Just saw the 4pm news. Looking at it again, it does seem only Turnberry projects have had these types of major structural collapses. The first incident a few days ago was because of workers falling.
In this one, people heard a massive rumble when it collapsed. Considering the very wide area several floors tall that just happened to not have any workers there is simply a miracle.
The collapse back when Turnberry Tower 1 was going up also involved a whole floor and had amazingly no deaths too.
Just to repost the photo on the last page I took of the garage structure where this happened.
http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/7599/dsci0092oi3.jpg
philip August 7th, 2007, 03:26 AM I am glad that they changed the design, the new design looks better. My complaining worked.
Jaz August 9th, 2007, 09:07 AM Looking more carefully at the floor plan, I am happy to see that they are not forcing pedestrians to walk through a mall to get to the casino, like Wynn, Bellagio, Caesars and Echelon. I have a feeling that this will become one of my favorite resorts.
raditton September 6th, 2007, 03:43 AM A few pictures taken from the 34th floor of Turnberry Place. The first shows progress on the main tower. The second shows the parking garage and the convention center. It looks like they have cleaned up after the collapse. The last picture shows how close the convention center access road passes by the Turnberry swimming pool. Nothing like sun, water and diesel fumes.
http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff57/raditton/Fontainebleau19-5-07.jpg
http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff57/raditton/Fontainebleau39-5-07.jpg
http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff57/raditton/Fontainebleau29-5-07.jpg
-Corey- September 6th, 2007, 03:43 AM Thanx for the updates.
mdiederi September 6th, 2007, 07:28 AM Wow, great angle on those shots. Really gives a different perspective. They've really excavated that front part along the Strip. You can see a couple new beams for the extra height they are adding to the convention side. Those sure are some huge mobile cranes. I thought I heard them say that the loading dock for the conventions will be up a ramp a couple floors above grade, similar to Mandalay Bay. Seems that would even be visible from the Turnberry pool plus the diesel fumes. Wonder how they will abate that, with a wall or something? Or will the loading dock actually be underground? I know there's parking down there.
gpz137 September 6th, 2007, 08:41 PM Awesome shots. Thanks so much. Hard to believe that back building is going to be over 20 stories tall. Across the entire length of the lot. Nuts. And the front so close to Las Vegas Blvd. From a distance as you drive between Fontainebleau and Sky, it will look like a choke point. 500 feet high on one side and 725 feet high on the other and both only 60 - 100 feet off the sidewalk.
DetKing111 September 8th, 2007, 02:24 AM I hate casino skyscrapers...
mdiederi September 8th, 2007, 02:34 AM The skyscrapers are actually hotels and the casinos are just on the bottoms. I like them, because the public is invited to go in and enjoy the amenities, so you get to see what the building is really like. Whereas most tall buildings in most cities are private or have a very limited amount of public access.
rossie1977 September 8th, 2007, 04:35 AM The skyscrapers are actually hotels and the casinos are just on the bottoms. I like them, because the public is invited to go in and enjoy the amenities, so you get to see what the building is really like. Whereas most tall buildings in most cities are private or have a very limited amount of public access.
you have just summed up the allure of las vegas for the tourist perfectly. Whereas the majority of buildings in cities like LA, New York, Chicago, Paris, London etc are not accessible to members of the general public, nearly 95% of buildings on the Strip and Fremont Street are. Chicago Spire will be nice to look at and all just like the Chrysler Building is, but most of us will ever get inside.
Imagine if Steve Wynn never let us inside his hotel or only allowed us inside his car dealership, i don't think too many people would be coming back :lol:
gpz137 October 7th, 2007, 08:53 PM Is this the two story Fontainebleau sales office I thought I read about a while back going in next to Sky?
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p131/gdog137/Fontainebleau/Fontainebleausales.jpg
-Corey- October 7th, 2007, 09:34 PM Is there a new rendering of this tower?
R@ptor October 7th, 2007, 09:57 PM I'm really a bit surprised by the relatively small footprint of this buildings (at least compared to other Las Vegas casinos.
rossie1977 October 8th, 2007, 07:08 PM Is there a new rendering of this tower?
The last rendering was released in early august
http://i20.tinypic.com/24oc2lj.jpg
I'm really a bit surprised by the relatively small footprint of this buildings (at least compared to other Las Vegas casinos.
thats just the tower though and it will be 100 feet higher than anything built/or under construction in las vegas as of right now
Taylorhoge October 11th, 2007, 06:48 AM looks pretty sexy and vegas too me
-Corey- October 11th, 2007, 08:37 AM I like the design, thanx.
phillybud October 22nd, 2007, 01:23 AM I don't like to express negative opinions and I am no expert critic on architecture, but I just have to say this: The original Fountainebleau Resort Hotel in Miami, designed by the world famous architect Morris Lapidus, was nicer than this new one going up in Las Vegas.
The new one is Las Vegas is fine ... and I understand bigger and more up-to-date than the Miami hotel which was built in the 1950's. The sweeping curvature of the original, the "champagne bubble windows" under each arched segment, the soaring terraced tower on the north side ... made the Morris Lapidus hotel more elegant and glamorous than this one.
In this one instance, Miami Beach beats out Las Vegas. Sorry, just my opinion.;)
mdiederi November 12th, 2007, 01:11 AM Starting to get some height. Shot this from clear across the Echelon site, down by Desert Inn Road and Industrial.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/EchFont.jpg
raditton November 12th, 2007, 05:51 AM The following pictures show the progress on the convention center/parking garage and main tower. I think the PG/CC must be getting close to its top. Before long I won't be able to see Circus Circus any more. What a shame.
http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff57/raditton/Fontainebleau311-11-07.jpg
http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff57/raditton/Fontainebleau211-11-07.jpg
http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff57/raditton/Fontainebleau111-11-07.jpg
mdiederi November 12th, 2007, 06:52 AM Great shots! I hadn't seen all those elevator cores on the south edge of the site before.
Yeah, I think that's as high as the PG/CC is going. And with the way the main tower is angled you're still gonna have a great view from where you are, even without a view of the fabulous CircusCircus. LOL. Also hadn't noticed before that the west wing of the main tower is angled almost the same direction as Sky. That should look nice when done.
Superfish November 15th, 2007, 04:28 AM That is a great angle.
Those cores are more massive than they look, especially at ground level. I went by Riveria Blvd. today to check them out. Each one of those could just as easily be for some 40 story tower and not just for a podium. As I'll say again, this hotel is a beast.
-Corey- November 15th, 2007, 06:35 AM WOW they are working so fast..
Superfish November 15th, 2007, 10:46 PM VTAT morning shot.
http://i4.tinypic.com/6uqrimq.jpg
mdiederi November 16th, 2007, 01:37 AM Dang, are those even more elevator cores along Las Vegas Boulevard? I've never seen so many cores.
Jaru123 November 16th, 2007, 03:30 AM Great design, all glass, it looks very good.
Taylorhoge November 16th, 2007, 05:04 AM this is already looking great its going up faster then Echolan
raditton November 18th, 2007, 06:02 AM This is a temporary structure on the back of the Fontainebleau lot that is filled with bright orange lights. I was wondering if anyone knows what its purpose is?
http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff57/raditton/OrangeBuilding.jpg
mdiederi December 10th, 2007, 04:00 AM ^^ Don't know what it is.
North side.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/Font2-7.jpg
South side.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/Font4-4.jpg
Convention center.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/Font3-6.jpg
There are a total of eight of these massive cores surrounding the casino area.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/Font1-6.jpg
mdiederi December 10th, 2007, 08:40 PM There was a construction accident at the Fontainebleau today.
A wall collapsed injuring 4 workers, but luckily none killed this time.
http://klas-tv.com/Global/story.asp?S=7475356
potipoti December 10th, 2007, 10:35 PM WoW, when I was there on march there was nothing!!!
Superfish December 11th, 2007, 03:28 AM There was a construction accident at the Fontainebleau today.
A wall collapsed injuring 4 workers, but luckily none killed this time.
http://klas-tv.com/Global/story.asp?S=7475356
Again??
They are unlucky to keep having these yet lucky in that no one has died yet.
Great shots. So many cores...
Hope the glass starts soon.
JohnFlint1985 December 11th, 2007, 06:40 PM Las Vegas look unbelievable. The sheer scale and amount of highrises - is simply cannot be comprehended. I am constantly wondering - how many people do you need to fill all these hotels and how many people go gamble over there. I seems you should have a huge amount of tourists to support all that.
Don Pacho December 11th, 2007, 07:21 PM I don't like to express negative opinions and I am no expert critic on architecture, but I just have to say this: The original Fountainebleau Resort Hotel in Miami, designed by the world famous architect Morris Lapidus, was nicer than this new one going up in Las Vegas.
The new one is Las Vegas is fine ... and I understand bigger and more up-to-date than the Miami hotel which was built in the 1950's. The sweeping curvature of the original, the "champagne bubble windows" under each arched segment, the soaring terraced tower on the north side ... made the Morris Lapidus hotel more elegant and glamorous than this one.
In this one instance, Miami Beach beats out Las Vegas. Sorry, just my opinion.;)
I agree as well. We'll see the results when they open
Sometime ago I made a thread of the new Fontainebleau in Miami Beach:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=309195
mdiederi December 11th, 2007, 07:31 PM JohnFlint1985, every time there's a building boom people say it's over built, but all the new hotels and expansions from the last boom are jammed packed. So they keep building more.
rossie1977 December 11th, 2007, 08:31 PM Las Vegas look unbelievable. The sheer scale and amount of highrises - is simply cannot be comprehended. I am constantly wondering - how many people do you need to fill all these hotels and how many people go gamble over there. I seems you should have a huge amount of tourists to support all that.
39 million people visited las vegas in 2006 and that is sure to rise to close to 40 million this year, compare that to 1988 before any of the mega hotels were built when less than 17 million people visited the city
Hotel room occupancy rate was at 90% for 2006 and there will be 171,000 hotel rooms by 2010 http://www.usatoday.com/travel/news/2007-02-14-las-vegas-tourism-record_x.htm
rossie1977 December 11th, 2007, 08:35 PM JohnFlint1985, every time there's a building boom people say it's over built, but all the new hotels and expansions from the last boom are jammed packed. So they keep building more.
thats for sure, back in 1989 las vegas was overbuilt according to some experts in the know http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=950DE4DC1538F933A05756C0A96F948260&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=print
when the last frontier was built in 1942 nobody thought the strip could support two casino hotels :nuts:
JohnFlint1985 December 12th, 2007, 04:05 AM JohnFlint1985, every time there's a building boom people say it's over built, but all the new hotels and expansions from the last boom are jammed packed. So they keep building more.
Simply unbelievable. People just go there and spend money. Hard to imagine, but true. Thank you
Lusitania December 12th, 2007, 05:58 AM The following pictures show the progress on the convention center/parking garage and main tower. I think the PG/CC must be getting close to its top. Before long I won't be able to see Circus Circus any more. What a shame.
I believe I read the Circus Circus time on the strip is limited, it's no longer very profitable.
rossie1977 December 12th, 2007, 08:00 AM I believe I read the Circus Circus time on the strip is limited, it's no longer very profitable.
actually CC is actually one of the most profitable hotels in town per room rate, the MGM ceo has already come out publicly and said CC is not going anywhere and that his wife and kids love the place, expect to see a major upgrade for CC though in the coming years
VegasCharlie December 12th, 2007, 11:12 AM I believe I read the Circus Circus time on the strip is limited, it's no longer very profitable.
CircusCircus is by far one of the highest profit-ratio resorts on the Strip...:weird:
It is not going anywhere, anytime soon!!!
JohnFlint1985 December 13th, 2007, 10:31 PM I think that the whole idea of all this building boom is sometime in the future to connect Las Vegas Strip with it's Downtown which always had problems. So all These projects to the north of Stratosphere supposed to do that sometime in the future. Am I wrong?
VegasCharlie December 13th, 2007, 10:58 PM I think that the whole idea of all this building boom is sometime in the future to connect Las Vegas Strip with it's Downtown which always had problems. So all These projects to the north of Stratosphere supposed to do that sometime in the future. Am I wrong?
The strip has to expand somewhere... The majority of the land from Sahara to Tropicana is either built or, under-construction, so new resorts will have to go way north (towards downtown) or way south (past the airport and 215)
Then next 20 years will continue to be amazing for the strip... There is no end in sight... :banana:
JohnFlint1985 December 14th, 2007, 01:09 AM The strip has to expand somewhere... The majority of the land from Sahara to Tropicana is either built or, under-construction, so new resorts will have to go way north (towards downtown) or way south (past the airport and 215)
Then next 20 years will continue to be amazing for the strip... There is no end in sight... :banana:
I see no point to go south past airport - there is nothing really down there. On the other hand Downtown always had problems with the Strip pulling majority of people away. So to solve both problems to expand the Strip and to revitalize Downtown it is easy to see a solution - connect them both. Especially it is not that far from each other and as I remember it is not built up by big important buildings - mostly 1-2 story buildings, stores and motels. I think that Pulse arena and the whole Union park development is part of this strategy. which should be completed as you said in about 20 years given the amount of what needs to be built.
VegasCharlie December 14th, 2007, 05:44 AM I believe Union Park will have 6-8 plots under construction by the end of 2008...
As for Pulse... I think it was a little too ambitious at 10.5 billion... From what I have read lately it seems the 4 billion 124 story tower/arena complex has a lot better chance of being built where the current city hall is now...
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But, back on topic - Fontainbleau will be amazing, 730 ft will be another new standard for the North strip... I can't wait to see the renders of Crown as well as the MGM propetry that will eventually surround Fountainbleau!!!
Lusitania December 16th, 2007, 12:32 PM actually CC is actually one of the most profitable hotels in town per room rate, the MGM ceo has already come out publicly and said CC is not going anywhere and that his wife and kids love the place, expect to see a major upgrade for CC though in the coming years
Perhaps that was it; I was under the impression that it was to be gutted for a new style, however remain the "Circus Circus," but compared to today's version, in name only. Ive been there a few times myself so it contains some 90's nostalgia for me, but I am not opposed to a renovation, but I digress.
ames January 1st, 2008, 03:34 PM nice.
mbuildings January 1st, 2008, 03:36 PM very nice
mdiederi January 1st, 2008, 07:19 PM Well, Circus Circus is very profitable, percentage-wise, compared to how much their overhead is, because they spend very little to run it. It makes about $88 million profit per year. But compare that to something like Bellagio that makes over $400 million profit per year. The percentage of profit is less important than how big a pile of money you have at the end of the year. It costs a lot more to operate a high-end resort, but the actual profit amount is much higher. I've heard ideas of turning Circus Circus into a Cirque du Soleil themed hotel, which would compete better with its new neighbors.
raditton January 1st, 2008, 08:32 PM Some New Years day updated photos of the construction. And as a reminder my web cam of the project is available at http://turnberry.raditton.com:84 id: guest password:guest
http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff57/raditton/Fontainebleau11-1-08.jpg
http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff57/raditton/Fontainebleau21-1-08.jpg
http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff57/raditton/Fontainebleau31-1-08.jpg
mbuildings January 1st, 2008, 10:35 PM wow... stunning pics
mdiederi January 2nd, 2008, 03:30 AM Great shots from up there Raditton. Did you watch the fireworks from up there?
I just bookmarked your webcam. If Superfish comes back maybe he could copy the link to the first post so it's easy for people to find.
-Corey- January 2nd, 2008, 03:57 AM WOw Amazing..
rossie1977 January 2nd, 2008, 04:50 PM i am still confused as to why they need all the cores??
the parking structure is just a monster
raditton January 3rd, 2008, 08:25 AM Sorry that this is a little off topic, but here are some photos of the New Years fireworks and since mdiederi asked I thought I would post them. You can see the Fontainebleau construction in two of them.
http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff57/raditton/Fireworks31-1-08.jpg
http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff57/raditton/Fireworks11-1-08.jpg
http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff57/raditton/Fireworks21-1-08.jpg
PwnedByASkyscraper January 3rd, 2008, 08:28 AM Nice shots! Vegas took a page from HK and Taipei :).
mdiederi January 3rd, 2008, 09:31 AM WOW! Happy New Year!
gpz137 January 3rd, 2008, 09:18 PM i am still confused as to why they need all the cores??
the parking structure is just a monster
The elevator cores around the perimeter might allow easy evacuation for the rooftop swimming pools on the 100+ foot tall podium buidling. It looks like most of the core's interiors are taken up with stairs. They might be used for structural reasons as well. I'm sure that the 1 acre pool/lake will be a tad bit heavy.
And thanks for the pictures everyone! Awesome.
mdiederi January 13th, 2008, 10:23 PM Still no glass yet.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/font1-7.jpg
Starting to look pretty dense over there. Sales center in the foreground.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/font2-8.jpg
Here you can see developing what will be the narrowest section of the Strip between towers.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/font-sky.jpg
Wisma January 13th, 2008, 10:33 PM Nice update.
That Trump tower is stunning. I'll hope they start soon building the second one.
-Corey- January 13th, 2008, 11:13 PM Awesome updates. THanx..;)
Taylorhoge January 13th, 2008, 11:29 PM wow havent checked this project in a while looks great though
xXFallenXx January 14th, 2008, 09:23 PM wow, i didn't know it was so far along already. great!
gpz137 January 14th, 2008, 09:26 PM Man, snooze you lose. I have pics of Fontainebleau from the same day! I have not gotten around to posting them though. From slightly different vantage points. Maybe I'll put them up anyway. Thanks for posting them Mark, great pics. I was out for CES and was really hoping they would throw up a window or two while I was out there. I have pics of the staging area across the street from the Sahara, next to the Hilton Grand Vacations Club and there is no glass sitting out there either so I guess they're still a little ways away. (Lots of steel though for the convention center/parking garage.)
mdiederi January 14th, 2008, 11:38 PM Yes, please post the photos!
gpz137 February 1st, 2008, 02:00 AM Hey Mark,
Finally got around to posting the pics. They are from the same day you took yours. Just from a different perspective.
From across the street at Sky:
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p131/gdog137/Fontainebleau/Fontainebleauplusgarage.jpg
Massive elevator cores:
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p131/gdog137/Fontainebleau/Coresfromabove.jpg
Sales center entrance in the back of the little building across the street:
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p131/gdog137/Fontainebleau/Fontsalescenter.jpg
dobry_wilk February 1st, 2008, 02:19 AM Building site looks gr8. cheers
mdiederi February 1st, 2008, 04:17 AM Amazing perspective from up there!
VegasTom February 1st, 2008, 09:29 AM Wow, this rooms looks so large. Are there any rooms or only suites?
gpz137 February 1st, 2008, 05:01 PM I think the spaces between the vertical pillars will be split up into multiple rooms. You can see steel wall framing cutting things up in there. I thought I read somewhere that the rooms will be good sized though.
Is the glass going on yet? I'm dying to see what it will look like.
mdiederi February 3rd, 2008, 04:24 AM GLASS
Southeast corner of the tower
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/FontGlass3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/FontGlass4.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/FontGlass8.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/FontGlass.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/FontGlass2.jpg
Here's where they stack it after unloading it from the trucks.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/FontGlass7.jpg
They stage it on this rack before lifting it in place.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/FontGlass5.jpg
gpz137 February 3rd, 2008, 09:52 PM Wow Mark! Awesome. They have so much glass staged already. It looks like it will go on quickly. I forgot that the bottom floors are so seamless. I think only the top 15 or so floors of condos will have balconies. I thought the glass would be more reflective like the Wynn but it looks more like the shade of blue of its neighbor across the street. Should be quite a sight driving north, looking between both those blue buildings sitting all the way out on the strip.
Thanks so much for posting!
mdiederi February 5th, 2008, 02:00 AM http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/Font1-8.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/font3-7.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/font2-10.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/FONT4-5.jpg
mdiederi February 5th, 2008, 05:29 AM http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/font10-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/font11-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/font9-2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/font5-3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/Font8-2.jpg
mdiederi February 7th, 2008, 12:13 AM A fire broke out while I was shooting from up there.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/Font7-3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/FontFire.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/FontFire2.jpg
Fido_le_muet February 7th, 2008, 06:02 PM Wow!
Glad it's just a minor fire.
I wonder if these things happen sometimes or if you were trully lucky to shoot that ?
Thanks for the very detailled pics BTW :)
mdiederi February 11th, 2008, 10:02 PM The concrete floor slabs in the convention center/parking garage section are all pre fabricated and not poured in place.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/FONT5-4.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/Font2-12.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/font6-2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/font7-2.jpg
mdiederi February 11th, 2008, 10:05 PM Here are some steel shots.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/font4-6.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/Font3-8.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/Font8-3.jpg
I think this is Font steel being staged over at the Kerzner/MGM site.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/font1-9.jpg
Ni3lS February 11th, 2008, 10:46 PM The most towers in Vegas are resorts. Not special to me this one, Vegas is a nice city but I just don't like the downtown. all of the towers are too wide. they just have to build some slim towers. ;)
mdiederi March 17th, 2008, 12:07 AM http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/Font3-9.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/Font-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/Font2-13.jpg
Jaz May 7th, 2008, 09:52 AM Giong up quickly
Many more photos on my Fontainebleau page (http://www.vegastodayandtomorrow.com/fontainebleau.htm)
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2317/2472407595_0e619cb658_o.jpg
mdiederi June 10th, 2008, 02:47 AM Shot about a week ago.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/font-2.jpg
mdiederi July 12th, 2008, 10:17 AM http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/FONT-3.jpg
mdiederi July 14th, 2008, 02:07 AM http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/Font1-10.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/Font2-14.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/Font3-10.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/Font4-7.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/Font5-5.jpg
EPA001 July 14th, 2008, 05:37 PM My last visit to Las Vegas was in October 2007. Now look at the progress of this construction, amazing!
rossie1977 July 14th, 2008, 07:44 PM yeah they were only working on the 7th floor at the beginning of october......... all 42 floors ago
http://www.vegastodayandtomorrow.com/images/fontainebleau%20construction%20070930.jpg
ames July 19th, 2008, 11:52 PM yeh another beauty.
rossie1977 September 30th, 2008, 04:46 PM working on the 63rd floor, that garage/conference building is stupidly big, for reference those turnberry towers next to it are 477ft
http://i33.tinypic.com/fuw6xt.jpg
http://flickr.com/photos/plagan/2896357039/
http://i34.tinypic.com/2l0xty.jpg
http://flickr.com/photos/plagan/2896404247/
-Corey- September 30th, 2008, 05:06 PM Wow it looks so tall.
Mikey September 30th, 2008, 06:09 PM blimey this has shooot up!!! I was there in March and it was at least twenty floors shorter... go vegas :)
Ni3lS September 30th, 2008, 06:13 PM :eek: It's so freaking huge. unbelieveable. what a monster. great!
Basincreek September 30th, 2008, 06:22 PM That Conference Center/Garage is just overwhelming. What was the total sqft in this again?
erbse September 30th, 2008, 08:57 PM The name's just plain ridiculous.
And regarding the design - you'd expect something more striking to be build in Fabuloustown.
A boring tower in Vegas... Damn. That I dare gettin to see something like this, formidable!
rossie1977 September 30th, 2008, 09:34 PM That Conference Center/Garage is just overwhelming. What was the total sqft in this again?
400,000 sq feet for the conference center alone and not a clue on the garage which i think will have 7,500 parking spaces.
And regarding the design - you'd expect something more striking to be build in Fabuloustown.
A boring tower in Vegas... Damn. That I dare gettin to see something like this, formidable!
the day of the storybook castles, pyramids and eiffel towers is at an end in vegas, that was a 1990s thing; expect to see alot more glass towers like planet hollywood, city center, cosmopolitian and the like "if" the financial crisis ends.
jimbo September 30th, 2008, 09:47 PM ick, not really a fan, looks rather 1980s and shiny. Still, reasonable addition in terms of height I suppose.
djmaxliving September 30th, 2008, 10:42 PM Really like it, some massive projects. How many floor dose the hotel have.
CHAPINM1 October 15th, 2008, 05:52 AM Considering that they are working on the 65th floor of what was supposed to be 63 floors, I personally believe that it will be higher than 737 feet. They haven't even started on the crown yet and that alone would put it at 67 floors once complete. Personally I'm kinda excited!!!
phillybud October 15th, 2008, 06:12 AM [QUOTE=erbsenzaehler;25963956]The name's just plain ridiculous.
/QUOTE]
No it's not. It is paying homage to the famous luxury resort hotel in Miami Beach, Florida. In the 1940's and 50's elegant Miami Beach hotels were often named after French palaces: The Verseilles, The Malmaison ... or British ones as well, such as The Balmoral. The famous architect of these palatial hotels by the sea was often Morris Lapidus.
The Fontainebleau Hotel in Miami (now the Fontainebleau Hilton) was featured in the 1964(?) James Bond movie Goldfinger .
backupcoolm3n October 15th, 2008, 06:39 AM OMG it is huge, las vegas is starting to get non-themed skyscrapers, it is starting to become a REAL city in my opinion
-Corey- October 15th, 2008, 07:41 AM I went to Las Vegas last weekend :)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3057/2939002499_9284c67137_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3189/2939002389_42e5e1ec61_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3277/2939002207_0b67e11f7d_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3052/2939001871_288b9d02d4_b.jpg
I couldn't take pics from the other side.
CHAPINM1 October 17th, 2008, 07:44 AM ^^ Those are phenominal shots Vrysxy!!! Thank you very much! ^^
Ysh October 17th, 2008, 02:39 PM It will look shiny and massive when completed. Good to LV.
CHAPINM1 October 17th, 2008, 11:57 PM It appears that this building will be heigher than 737 feet/63 floors. They are now working on the 64th floor and they have NOT even started the crown yet! I'm kinda excited!
mdiederi November 11th, 2008, 08:11 PM This morning.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/fonttop.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/fontsouth.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/fontcenter.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/FontNorth.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/Font-4.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/FontStrip.jpg
Ni3lS November 11th, 2008, 08:20 PM It looks massive. like all the resorts in LV :) Like it
CHAPINM1 November 20th, 2008, 04:58 AM On Skyscraperpage, the floor count now stands at 67 floors so far...
DrT November 20th, 2008, 05:14 AM Any indication from the Fontainebleau folks if they plan to make this all hotel, part hotel/part condo hotel, or part hotel/part condo?
-Corey- November 20th, 2008, 06:09 AM On Skyscraperpage, the floor count now stands at 67 floors so far...
I counted 67 floors too :)
jbkayaker12 November 20th, 2008, 06:52 AM The most towers in Vegas are resorts. Not special to me this one, Vegas is a nice city but I just don't like the downtown. all of the towers are too wide. they just have to build some slim towers. ;)
These resorts are spending in the billions and they want to make sure to have a decent return on their investments so they are maximizing every square footage on their investments.
ElVoltageDR November 20th, 2008, 07:04 AM Wow that is just massive!
spicytimothy November 20th, 2008, 07:13 AM As you drive on Las Vegas Blvd this thing is ABSOLUTELY GIGANTIC. It's like a huge wall. Very Hong Kong lol. Can't wait to try it out!
phillybud November 21st, 2008, 11:10 PM Very impressive. I would love to go to Vegas just to see this and the City Center project as well.
jbkayaker12 November 22nd, 2008, 12:02 AM Fontainebleau at street level will be a nice addition on the Strip. With the right balance of restaurants and shops at the podium of this hotel, the Strip will be even more vibrant in the future.
himali November 23rd, 2008, 04:34 PM beautiful photos
christos-greece November 23rd, 2008, 08:48 PM Very massive :) and very nice tower too
steppenwolf November 23rd, 2008, 08:59 PM dont like it. very text book - my first building. I hate the glass cladding over the bare concrete. dishonest and wasteful. should be a wall of solar panels or nothing
CHAPINM1 November 23rd, 2008, 10:22 PM dont like it. very text book - my first building. I hate the glass cladding over the bare concrete. dishonest and wasteful. should be a wall of solar panels or nothing
Well your in luck, supposedly there are solar cells incorporated in the glass...
ZZ-II November 23rd, 2008, 10:24 PM Gigantic tower, Vegas Rulez :)
milquetoast November 25th, 2008, 12:46 PM Taken from the Regional Justice Center. Sorry for the dirty window shot. http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee192/trolltoast/HPIM1984-3.jpg
pokistic November 25th, 2008, 05:16 PM It looks great! :okay:
mdiederi December 3rd, 2008, 10:14 PM Shot this morning
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/buildings/Fontainebleau/font-5.jpg
spicytimothy December 5th, 2008, 10:53 PM How come there's a single floor left without windows?
SebaFun December 6th, 2008, 02:22 AM The building is impressive.
The building is beautiful, really beautiful and good design is the reflection of light in the mirrors now.
Excellent project and beautiful building !!!!!!!
PS: I see that is impressive growth in this city, this is appreciated by the large number of cranes in there, undoubtedly one of the world's cities with the highest growth.
f.e.s.b.r. December 6th, 2008, 03:46 AM great project....
BarbaricManchurian December 6th, 2008, 06:09 PM How come there's a single floor left without windows?
Probably mech floor :cheers:.
particlez December 6th, 2008, 10:01 PM i'm just glad this project will actually be completed. and in a strange way, i'm torn between the neo-modernism (which i'm generally drawn to) of this project, and how it differs from the various themes that have been used for the past two decades in las vegas. at any rate, i'll take this over the old boardwalk hotel any day.
**RS** December 6th, 2008, 10:24 PM Fontainebleau looks amazing :) Congrats Vegas!!!
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