The Elbphilharmonie (Elbe Philharmonic Hall) includes 2 concert halls, a 5-star-hotel and appartments on top of an old warehouse from 1961 (Kaispeicher A). The construction has already begun, at the moment the warehouse is cored.
completion: 2010 / architects: Herzog & de Meuron / cost: 322 million €

In the guise of the Elbe Philharmonic Hall, Hamburg is acquiring a new and impressive concert house, one that seems destined to house one of the world's ten best concert halls. This should be an outstanding location for performing classical music as well as jazz, world music and pop music. The Elbe Philharmonic Hall will become a new landmark for the city and, at the same time, a place for everyone. The new building complex will comprise two concert halls, an hotel with an international conference area, apartments, a plaza at a height of 37 meters, a wellness area, a nightclub and a large number of parking spaces in the Warehouse (quayside warehouse). The complex was based on designs by renowned Swiss architects Herzog & de Meuron.
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The new building is a resplendent glass body, whose surface is formed differently in certain sections. The single-shell glass facade thus shows the three internal uses of the building. In the hotel, the air vents become wave-like hatches, while the balconies of the apartments, horseshoe-shaped recesses in the glass, guarantee spectacular views, protection from the wind and lateral ventilation of the connecting rooms all at once. The concert auditorium, which faces inwards, shimmers with its amber-coloured foyer through the glass wall. A grid of white dots will also be printed on the facade to provide protection from the sun. The density of the grid will be individually calculated, with the aid of a computer, so that each room has appropriate protection depending on its function.
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The Elbe Philharmonic Hall aims to be one of the best concert auditoriums in the world. It will be an outstanding venue for classical music, as well as jazz, world music and Pop. The large concert auditorium, with approx. 2,150 seats, will take pride of place in the Elbe Philharmonic Hall. It does not follow the orthogonal concept of a so-called shoebox stage. The orchestra and conductor are situated in the centre and the audience seating sections rise up in interlocking irregular terraces to form a steep-sided cauldron. Light is reflected from the bright surfaces. The reflector in the sharply pointed ceiling is a striking feature. It ensures outstanding acoustics and is also part of the lighting system.
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In addition to the three concert halls, the Plaza also forms the heart of the Elbe Philharmonic Hall. It will resemble a market place where concert-goers and casual passers-by, residents of Hamburg and tourists can meet. The outdoor terraces offer a unique panorama with views of the city centre to the North, HafenCity to the East, and the Elbe and the harbour to the South and West. There is hardly anywhere else in Hamburg where the relationship between the city and the harbour can be seen in such an impressive way. The interior of the Plaza is dominated by the curved ceiling with its varying geometrical shape. It affords spectacular views of the city and the harbour. Deep recesses are cut into the building above the Plaza, offering varied views between the Plaza and the different levels of the foyer. On the Plaza itself, there are a number of restaurants and bars, and also the entrances to the hotel lobby and the residential complex. Sculptural staircases lead to the foyers of the Philharmonic Hall.
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Visitors can reach the foyer of the large concert auditorium by passing through the staircase sculpture below the auditorium. The foyer spreads out upwards to the facades and leads the visitor further and further into an unmistakable architectural landscape. A sweeping three-storey staircase leads up from the Plaza to the level of the small auditorium, which is a completely separate area with its own infrastructure.
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The Elbe Philharmonic Hall will be more than just a concert hall – it will form an entire residential and cultural complex. In the West, the residential section towers up to as high as 110 meters above the Elbe. The apartments offer impressive views out over the city and the port, and have a separate entrance. Plans foresee a hotel with conference facilities on the East side – in at least the 5-star category. The spectacular highpoint: a stroll in the wavy roof area. The hotel rooms offer a view out over HafenCity, the largest downtown urban development in Europe. The plaza is a freely accessible zone 37 meters above the ground. It is positioned like a radiant joint between Warehouse and the new building. The idea: to create a new meeting point for all Hamburg residents and the city’s visitors. The Warehouse itself will primarily be used as a carpark for some 570 vehicles. Next to it there will be high-end uses, an education area, additional backstage, wellness facilities and hospitality.
http://derus.freehost.ag/00elbph.jpg (http://www.elbphilharmonie.de/upload/files/2007_STERN_Grafik.pdf)

Click here to enlarge (http://www.elbphilharmonie.de/upload/files/2007_STERN_Grafik.pdf)


The Elbe Philharmonic Hall will occupy a historically important spot. Sandtor harbour, at the tip of which the Elbe Philharmonic will be built, is Hamburg’s first industrial dock. The landmark of the harbour, the “Kaiserspeicher” with its ball clock, stood there until it was destroyed in the Second World War. Every ship that entered Hamburg harbour headed towards it. Yet as much as the place is steeped in history, it remained unknown for many years. Ever since Speicherstadt and HafenCity were excluded from the free port, people have started rediscovering this prominent part of the city. In the West, the Elbe Philharmonic extends into the Elbe, as a hinge between the city and the harbour. The Elbe Philharmonic Hall also has a central function for HafenCity. With the “Internationales Maritimes Museum Hamburg” and cultural establishments planned for the Überseequartier, it will be the cultural heart of HafenCity and contribute to the further regeneration of this inner city urban development area, the largest in Europe.
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Kaispeicher A:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9f/Kaispeicher_A.jpg/800px-Kaispeicher_A.jpg

http://www.deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/pics/samuel/07-04-04/elbf.jpg

this must be the best thing after the chrysler building! I would travel to Hamburg just to attend a concert there! Iconic, Brilliant, Masterpiece!

Very different

i'm eager to see it complete!
a masterpiece!

110m, have always thought 90m?

Magnificent!!!

110m, have always thought 90m?

all sources say 110m now:
http://www.emporis.com/ge/wm/bu/?id=elbphilharmonie-hamburg-germany
http://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?26955208

also the official site:
http://www.elbphilharmonie.de/upload/files/links/Daten.pdf

I was not aware that this project included a residential component. Great project.

A few pics I shot 2006, 2003

http://www.lilicon.com/pics/ep1.jpg
http://www.lilicon.com/pics/ep2.jpg
http://www.lilicon.com/pics/ep5.jpg
http://www.lilicon.com/pics/ep4.jpg

Official website: http://www.elbphilharmonie.de/index_html.php?language=en
Webcam soon: http://www.elbphilharmonie.de/index_html.php?typ=artikel&id=61

http://www.lilicon.com/pics/ep3.jpg

everything looks like toy next to the queen :master:
but the elbphilharmonie will be taller :banana:

wow

This will become Hamburg's new landmark!

Nice!

There are 3 concert halls inside the white portion? :eek:

This will become Hamburg's new landmark!
http://www.lilicon.com/pics/ep6.jpg´
It's Hamburg's new landmark already! :lol:

wow! great pic! thanks a lot

The old building wasn't bad as it was... but this is indeed a great transformation and it will definitely become a landmark.

This is stunning, congrats Hamburg! :okay:

some model pics elbphilharmonie/hafencity:

http://www.bildarchiv-hamburg.de/hamburg/gebaeude/kaispeicher_a/08a_kaispeicher_a_modell_hafencity.jpg

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All 3 concert halls are inside the white structure?

All 3 concert halls are inside the white structure?

I can see only 2 halls. A big one with 2150 seats and a small hall with 550 seats. both of them are in the white structure.

http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/8752/83706azherzogry2er8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

i think the third one will be much smaller and isnt on that pic. u can see "Konzertsäle" and "Konzertsäale" :lol: (concert hall), one in the new part, one in the warehouse. anywhere there is the location of the third concert hall.

today

http://www.deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/pics/samuel/07-04-12/hafencity3.jpg

from daf (http://www.deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/showthread.php?p=136305#post136305)

thank you KoolKeatz :)


btw...hopefully that pic isn't from Schmittchen :lol:

"Backstage Konzertsääle" just means that it is the backstage area of the two concert halls. the official website also just mentions two concert halls.

ok, thank u. i thought "backstage / konzertsäle" ;) i changed it now.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/180/443461420_d57f3cab91.jpg

great project ! Will become as famous as Sydneys Opera.:cheers:

great project ! Will become as famous as Sydneys Opera.:cheers:

I doubt that...

But yes it's an great project!...looks very nice:yes:

This is one of my fav. projects going on in Europe right now! I'm a bit envious that Amsterdam East Docklands redevelopment hasn't got this scale like Hamburg Hafencity.

Great to see that theyll finally start with the construction.

http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/940/elbqz7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/1438/elb2iq4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
the roof of the Elbphiharmonic
http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/12/elb3ah2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
open windows the insite
http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/4926/elb5ou8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
another Plane of the projekt
http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/2364/elb6jt4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/1835/elb7oc2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
and the Mir in front of the Kaispeicher A
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Thank u for the pics elktest! Finally someone from Hamburg who can post pics! :)
The good thing on this construction is that there wont be a excavation. The bad thing is that we cant follow whats actually happen inside the warehouse. cant wait for the glass part...!

Really fantastic... the hall itself is so organic. I really like it.. definitely iconic.

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great board :lol:

pic from today
before the bullding to core its statistically firm
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Super awesome project!

Hamburg will soon be Germanies number one city. Not suprising with a GDP growth of over 4%.

number 1 in which discipline? the gdp/capita of frankfurt is almost twice that of hamburg ...

awesome project btw :cheers:

number 1 as the beautiest city.

a pic from today:
http://www.deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/pics/samuel/07-04-28/elb.jpg
again from DAF (http://www.deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/showthread.php?t=5937&page=2) (Samuel)

It looks really strange, i have to see this in real life.

are there any updates of this coooooool project !:nuts:

i'm excited how fast this one will rise

oh yes, me too. :drool: does anybody have new pics?!

I can't get enough of this "broken glass"-roof :naughty: It's just so stunning... Hopefully they build it as fast (and as perfect ;) ) as they can!

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/192/516009005_e60af820a8_o.jpg

:cheers:

That doesn't look like 110 meters.

The pic from carst0nHH is an old rendering. The whole glass structure will be higher (and betterlooking). :)

Amazing how much money the germans have :lol:

This is really ugly building, a strange 'high rise'

^ I think this architecture isn't ugly in any way. In fact it will be a great landmark for Hamburg, a lighthouse of modern architecure for this hanseatic city. Just look at the official homepage (http://www.elbphilharmonie.de/index.php?language=en) to realize its innovative style and especially the interesting interior. It may look strange to some people - but that what it makes unique, not ugly (sorry, but otherwise you haven't a great feel for modern architecture imo). ;)

http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/8461/westansichtnacht0yx.jpg

If u expect a tower it might look strange. But its not a tower.
I love the design, i love the combination of old and new and i love how its fit to the surrounding. This wont be only a landmark for Hamburg it will be a landmark for whole Germany.

I want to live there! So nice!

Update.
Pics: © W.Meinhart DAF (http://www.deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/index.php) Lizenz: CreativeCommons (CC-SA-NC-de) Kommerzielle Nutzung bedarf einer Genehmigung
http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/8185/elbe1xm6.jpg

http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/8006/elbe2ic0.jpg

Pics: Webcam Elbphilharmonie (http://62.206.10.222/local/viewer/cam_inner_en.html)

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cool, didn't know that there's a webcam :)

Very nice design on a very nice location. Looks as a high quality one of kind building. Good for Hamburg.

Thank you for the update Waxo Khana. :)

WOOOOW!:shocked:
this building is realy elegant, so easy to recognise...in the same time it s futuristic look doesn t desturb the eye, just beautifull!!!
it s fitting so well with the place...

A real eyecatcher, wonderful fusion between traditional and modern elements. I love it! :okay:

Is there any date when they're goin to start with the enormous huge glasspart of the philharmony? Would be interested in that. :cheers:

Btw: Any fresh impressions, someone?

at DAF (http://www.deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/index.php?referrerid=2367) there are new Pictures
Pics (http://www.deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/showpost.php?p=145464&postcount=58referrerid=2367)
M@lte made them.

You can estimate if you look on the construction video (http://www.elbphilharmonie.de/video.php?video=2).

I think they start 2008/2009 with the glasspart

cool project !!!

sep 9

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The inside looks very 'star wars'-ish. Like it though. And the outside is beautifull, very unique. :cheers:

terrific project!! HafenCity and Hamburg as well!!!
:applause: for H&dM
Hamburg Philharmonic Hall became one of my favorite constructions in the world, I'll surely be up to the updates and allready think about visiting your city...

Great project for a very cool city.I'd like to see some info on other projects in Hamburg,either there's not much going on or it's just hard to get info.

If you can speak German --> Look here (http://www.deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=164?referrerid=2367)

now hafen city looks very nice with all these buildings. very urban. me like it very much!

Amazing building - probably most beautiful i've ever seen.

i've been several times to Hamburg for classical concerts , and I will probably miss the wonderful old Laeiszhalle, but this one is just awesome!!!
I can't wait!!!

The Laeiszhalle will still exist, also for classical concerts.

@novaguy: There is a lot going on in Hamburg regarding construction. Just not anything higher than 100m (apart of this project). That's why you won't find much about construction in Hamburg in SSC.

can `t wait for it. :cheers:

It looks brilliant, sublime, outstanding.
This is what modern architecture should be about.

I like the inside probably the most. Very science fiction like. The outside is nice as well.

Are there any new updates about this cool project ???

It looks brilliant, sublime, outstanding.
This is what modern architecture should be about.

:cheers:

Are there any new updates about this cool project ???

pics by prinz ali (DAF (http://www.deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/showthread.php?t=5937&page=10))

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/2517/img2450pk5.jpg
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:applause:WOW

... I ve heard at least two huge tower - krans were erected since yesterday ...:cheers:

This is gonna be one outstanding beauty! Very original. Congrats for Hamburg :applause:

http://derus.freehost.ag/01elbph.jpg (http://www.elbphilharmonie.de/upload/files/2007_STERN_Grafik.pdf)

Click here to enlarge (http://www.elbphilharmonie.de/upload/files/2007_STERN_Grafik.pdf)

Dam that must be horribly difficult for the workers to build:eek2::eek2:

This building is incredibly unique and gorgeous !:nuts:

That illustration is just humongous, fantastic! You can see all the details and the interior-uses. Thanks Keatz :)

I really hope that this building gonna get a fantastic facade. The 'landmark status' will be based on that.

the escalator in the lower part of the building looks very long. has anyone more information?

Only whats written next to it. The first elevator is 85m long the second 20m. ;)

that is absolutly gorgeous. How many seats will it have?

Only whats written next to it. The first elevator is 85m long the second 20m. ;)

i couldn't enlarge it because my Acrobat-Reader programm had a problem with loading ^^. but thx for the info :)

i couldn't enlarge it because my Acrobat-Reader programm had a problem with loading ^^. but thx for the info :)

Then fix it. This huge illustration is it worth. On the first site is a bigger pic btw, you should be able to read the text on that one. :)

that is absolutly gorgeous. How many seats will it have?

The large concert auditorium will have 2150 seats, the small one 550.

absolutely cool graphic , 85 m curved " rollin ' stairs ":D , I can ' T wait for the building. :cheers:

as I have never been to Hamburg ever, I have to go there at the latest when this building will be finished!

that is absolutly gorgeous. How many seats will it have?

the big room will have 2150 seats and the small one 500.

This is amazing. Is there any other cultural institution like this that has a residential component? I can't think of another...

...what about the new and struggled pedestrian walkaway /bridge , does it get build or not ?

nice illustration.
looks great

Some fresh pics made by the German DAF (http://www.deutsches-architektur-forum.de/forum/showthread.php?t=5937&page=20) forumer wmeinhart:

Inside of the Kaispeicher - there's an excavator now
http://antiwome.homeip.net:8080/foto/2007/11/2007_1122_125627AA.jpg

http://antiwome.homeip.net:8080/foto/2007/11/2007_1122_125758AA.jpg

And an additional model of the Elbe Philharmonic hall:
http://antiwome.homeip.net:8080/foto/2007/11/tn_2007_1122_124251AA.gif (http://antiwome.homeip.net:8080/foto/2007/11/2007_1122_124251AA.jpg)

I hope it's goin to be an attention hoe once they begin with the glass part.

Let me you show you two aerial views of the Elbphilharmonie now:

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/2463/elbphilllifx1.jpg

http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/7558/elbphille2gq6.jpg


Source: Stiftung Elbphilharmonie

Fascinating, Gorgeous....

I can't get over this project's beauty. It's just amazing...

thx, i totally forgot this projcet :)

I love this great project.:)

ah this will be so spectacular, i love it too much. Ill make a pilgrimage to it (and chilehaus) when its complete, i swear.

Chilehaus - yes , also worth too see and nearby Speicherstadt (warehouse-city).:)

Pics from saturday 16.2

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/2847/cimg0487ig6.jpg

http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/636/cimg0488vq6.jpg

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/9338/cimg0489yd6.jpg

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/4546/cimg0480ex1.jpg

This project shows that it isn't all about how tall a building is! It's an amazing project, love it. =)

honestly, it could become as famous as landmark buildings like the sydney opera house or the bilbao guggenheim

Another prestigious project carried by Herzog, welldone!

:eek2:Wowww! Amazing project!:cheers:

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:cheers:, will rise very soon :)

Looking forward to seeing this project when I'm in Hamburg next month.

I'm in Hamburg tomorrow maybe i'll take some pics and show them to you...

One of my favourite projects at all.

^^^^ Hope for good weather and nice pictures. Will anybody visit also Miniatur - Wunderland ,
just in the vicinity of Elbphilharmonie and Harbour-city , the largest Railway-scale model in the world , with almost 1.000.000 visitors / year ?

yep is visited it the third time was really cool...but i don't post the pictures in this thread^^

sry for the quality of the pics my cam isnt the best


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the house next to it
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http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh230/Crizzy94/DSCI0289.jpg

and i want to show this beatiful highrise
http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh230/Crizzy94/DSCI0302.jpg

:okay:, many thx...great shots!

The high-rise (in the last picture) would look much better without the silver top and the antenna.

yes i think it looks a bit cheap
here is another pic
http://i30.tinypic.com/olo1w.jpg

and the top
http://i30.tinypic.com/2wf0pok.jpg

Nice update , thank you .But i don ' t like the Hanseatic-Trade-Center (htc) though.

Crizzy , your remaining Hamburg photos ...... in which thread / Forum do you post them ? (if at all..)

I took 253 photos and the quality isn't really good so i didn't post them in any thread

Wow, no updates since March? It's now mid-August. Has anything happened on the Elbphilharmonie in these last 5 months?? Any current photos?

there's a good webcam where you can see the progress: http://62.206.10.222/local/viewer/cam_inner.html

thanks for the webcam info.

We're reaching the glass construction part above the bricks soon!

Shot by Crizzy (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=446986&page=2):

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh230/Crizzy94/DSCI0821.jpg

I expected a tower like many others before I seen visualisations of this philharmonic hall. It is awesome.

this one will be one of the most impressive highrises in whole germany :cheers:

they extended the named costs from 189 mio Euros to 246 mio euros two years ago and now there are rumours of another extention of 100 mio euros , and a completion in 2011 instead of 2009 or 2010 .:ohno:

^^ I hope not, though I'd not be surprised with the current global climate. You should see what is happening in Britain at the moment. :ohno:

The tower looks amazing though. I really hope its completed on time (or at least close to time).

It's about to rise. Finally!

Elbphilharmonie and more September 2008

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http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/3884/zdesprungmarke28407webfv1.jpg
Quelle: Elbphilharmonie.de

http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/6434/zdesprungmarke28313webjh5.jpg
Quelle: Elbphilharmonie.de

Great photos. Hamburg is stunning.

Wonderful Hamburg updates,thank you

It looks like a ghost ship on the misty open sea. Very original

Cool project, Hamburg looks good in those pictures!!! ^^

City officials announced newly estimated costs for the Elbe Philharmonic Hall:

Originaly estimated (and contracted) costs for the total Building: 241,3 million € (March 2007)

Additional new costs to be paid by the City of Hamburg: 209 million € (Nov.2008)
Additional new costs to be paid by hotel/residential investors: not yet announced

Total announced costs by now: 450 million €

Total costs for the City of Hamburg by now: 379,9 million € (303,3 million € through taxes, 57,5 million € through donations, 19,1 million € through other sources)

The building will be completed in 2010, the first concert will take place in Fall 2011.

Check out the webcam!

http://62.206.10.222/local/viewer/cam_inner.html

Such a cost explosion was somewhat unexpected. Though wrong calculations are pretty usual.


Anyway, somebody out there who can brag with some update shots? :)

^^ They changed during the construction several things ,like deeper soils in water for a more ecological climatac , at the same time the prices for steal and glass grew into the sky, and they made some other improvements in the interior (more expensive ), so its not all wrong calculation.The last complete price I heard about was even about 500 million Euro. In addition to all the trouble it will open one or two years later than original planned,now 2012.
Nothing uncommon for unusual buildings like this.

Does anybody have an update?

Sure ;)

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/4393/p1010800.jpg

(04.03.2009, myself)

Thank you . Concert hall and marco polo tower on one pic. Great.

This is supposed to be a new music hall. At first I didn't even know that a hotel and apartments was to be inside the building.

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/3403/cimg1386w.jpg

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/9510/cimg1384.jpg

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/4964/cimg1385.jpg
Pics:Me

good progress, one of the most impressive projects going on in germany at the moment IMO

great buildind and beautiful area!

I LOVE IT!

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/3105/zdesprungmarke34320099o.jpg
Quelle: http://www.elbphilharmonie.de

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/6652/zdesprungmarke344oh5261.jpg
Quelle: http://www.elbphilharmonie.de

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/9917/zdesprungmarke345oh5261.jpg
Quelle: http://www.elbphilharmonie.de

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/4382/zdesprungmarke346oh5261.jpg
Quelle: http://www.elbphilharmonie.de

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/463/zdesprungmarke347oh5261.jpg
Quelle: http://www.elbphilharmonie.de

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/8072/zdesprungmarke348oh5261.jpg
Quelle: http://www.elbphilharmonie.de

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/63/zdesprungmarke349oh5261.jpg
Quelle: http://www.elbphilharmonie.de

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/6943/zdesprungmarke350oh5261.jpg
Quelle: http://www.elbphilharmonie.de

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/8647/zdesprungmarke351oh5261.jpg
Quelle: http://www.elbphilharmonie.de

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/2534/zdesprungmarke354oh5261.jpg
Quelle: http://www.elbphilharmonie.de

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/1579/zdesprungmarke355oh5261.jpg
Quelle: http://www.elbphilharmonie.de

Great :) I just can't wait to see those new concert halls under construction.


This is going to be... massive!

del

Thanks so much for the update,I just love this building.

wow.. this is going to be very impressive when it is finished.. it looks great in the renders!

thank you for the updates ! It will become a massive landmark !:)

no me gusta. =S esa edificacion de abajo le quita el encanto.

^^ Speak english please. You can speak spanish in the spanish and latin american subforums.

he said he doesn't like, because the top is silly

^^ Speak english please. You can speak spanish in the spanish and latin american subforums.


Sprechen Sie German erfreut. Sie können Englisch in den englischen und nordamerikanischen Subforen sprechen.
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Speak German please. you can speak English in the English and North American subforums.
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lol, cmon man...

del

It's growing fast, now.

Thanks for the photos!


Great progress, it's finally rising :cool:

I wish I was German :(

I wish I was German :(

I know, you aussies you love water like Hamburg people do :lol:
The first pic from #151 we took from a pier not from a boat, btw, so watching the new EP from there will be a bit closer than in Sydney.

This is the most fascinating corner of Hamburg's port, and Hamburg is really a fantastic city just because of water everywhere and its more than 2500 bridges.

love
Maja

Oh man this has got to be on the most beautifull projects around the globe at the moment. I really like that old/new mix like you see in the Hearst magazine tower in NYC.

What material is the facade?

What material is the facade?

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/8950/2158112v1.jpg
(http://www.abendblatt.de/nachrichten/article139989/So-geht-der-Bau-der-Elbphilharmonie-voran.html)
:)

Thank you Maja 88 . It's growing fast now.:)
Have you also some pics from Hafencity construction sites ?:)

Thank you Maja 88 . It's growing fast now.:)
Have you also some pics from Hafencity construction sites ?:)

Hi Frank,

You as German you would say "jein" (or should I write "jain"?), but better don't ask me after too many details, please :)
I'm a tourist not a photographer, but my friend who shot these philharmonic hall pictures (I persuaded him to show, resp. chose them only) is shooting hundreds photos of the Hafencity for documentary purposes every week, indeed. The trouble is, he doesn't like the Hafencity very much, and I can feel pretty good why he doesn't want to give the photos away. Not only he, cause during my 3 visits to Hamburg, since June last year, we met other local people here, and nobody said he/she would like his/her "own" Hafencity.
Strange?
You know, Hamburg is such a fantastic city, and Hamburg's downtown is probably the most interesting and beautiful one in the World, including the old warehouse (Speicherstadt) and the kontorhaus (Chilehouse+) quarters of course, and the level here in Hamburg and Germany is very high already. But, in short, this and the new Hafencity - this is not the same level. Not nearly.
I don't know how detailed you know Hamburg, ever been here? If not, you may follow the red path unter (+)more->"hamburg for tourists" on the website I mentioned in #151 the next time you should go to Hamburg, or/and view the photos in the parts 2a,2b,3,4a,4b and compare them with real Hafencity photos (not computer graphics) you can find everywhere in other threads here or elsewhere. Sure, the new philharmony will be a great and fantastic Hamburg's new landmark, and EUROPEAN - don't get smoke in your eyes dear Aussie friends! Its surrounding water is amazing, maybe one or another building will be very nice too, but on the other hand, the entire area of Hamburg's new city extension is big, too big, hence the average quality will be not very high, rather low, comparing to the "old" Mo-Strasse/Alster/Jungfernstieg/Gaensemarkt/Potsstrasse/Colonnaden/Roedingsmarkt area.

In the downtown, at present, you can walk along the small Alster lake, channels and arcades, you can watch the water & swans, enter tens or even hundreds of shops, more than ten shop-passages, small and big restaurants, one after another, shop by shop, a really great feeling. Of course, the Hafencity isn't finished today, but the two already finished streets, I mean these two along the channel with the vintage boats at the pier, give me rather a sad than a good premonition, so my feelings about the future things here are more than mixed.
During a guided tour one month ago I made some notices, here only one example of it:
the shopping areas of Hamburg's downtown take a bit more than 320,000 sqm now, which is not really very much for a 2 million city, they said, and the new Hafencity should extend the current downtown by 33 per cent.
But if so, the Hafencity should need next 100,000 sqm for new shops, but there will be less than 45,000 sqm for shopping only.

Sorry for writing about the Hafencity here in your philharmonic hall thread, but I have to leave Hamburg for Canada tomorrow, hence very hurry at moment.

hoping you are not angry :)
love
Maja

Hi Frank,


You know, Hamburg is such a fantastic city, and Hamburg's downtown is probably the most interesting and beautiful one in the World, including the old warehouse (Speicherstadt) and the kontorhaus (Chilehouse+) quarters of course, and the level here in Hamburg and Germany is very high already. But, in short, this and the new Hafencity - this is not the same level. Not nearly.


The problem with the hafencity is, that many inhabitans of Hamburg can't understand, why they do the same mistakes in design again and again. Hamburg certainly has a beuatiful and fantastic downtown, but it is not the most beautifull in the world, just in Germany. See wat is next to the chilehaus. The four ugly grey highrises. See what is next to the michel. The ugly Highrise of Deutscher Ring. What do you see when you look from the deichtorcenter to st.nikolai? The ugly Spiegel Headquarter. And now the do it again. What did they build behind the Elphilhamonie? - The most ugliest buildings in the hafencity, yet - In the tradition of destroying the shape with boring box-bullshit. The maggelan-terassen are the most boring place I have ever seen in Hamburg and by hunting the skaters away they killed the rest of the life of this place. That's Hamburg, too
I love this city and it's downtown, but I don't close my eyes in case of this unlucky shortfalls.

Thank you maja . I know Hamburg from several visits ,its my fav city in GER , my two sisters live there....I think Hafencity is too new to value it..the problem is , its financed by investestors,everything will be felt as sterile by many and cleaned up, no real live they think ... but we will see in the future.
If you ask anybody in Berlin for the Potsdamer platz, at least 50 % will say they hate it (ugly new), if you ask someone ask in Cologne for this Media quarter , also many people will say its ugly, modern , sterile.

Hamburg has several cool ""seedy areas" like Ottensen(Altona), Schanze, Karo, Pauli, St Georg,so Iwill travel again there...:)

Hamburg has several cool ""seedy areas" like Ottensen(Altona), Schanze, Karo, Pauli, St Georg,so Iwill travel again there...:)
I had my room in Schanze!!! ... Rosenhofstrasse ... like in Paris ... I'll miss it :)

"think Hafencity is too new to value it..."
I don't think that's the point. Hafencity could be great as new suburb for Hamburg, as downtown extension not suitable, IMO.

tschus ep, tschus hamburg
maja

cute :cheers:

Maja: HafenCity as a suburb? C'mon :| I agree there's not everything goin on as it should, but it certainly is one of the better urban extensions.

Just have a look at the stuff in Überseequartier (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=28592610&postcount=52) (Overseas Quarter).
Would you describe this as "suburban"? You've gotta show me that typical suburb, dude :lol:

i have seen this building in metropolitan home and thought it looked great. i love the interior, very modern. i bet it would sound great in there too.

Maja: HafenCity as a suburb? C'mon :| I agree there's not everything goin on as it should, but it certainly is one of the better urban extensions.


agreed


I like the boxy style btw :)

I like the boxy style btw :)

So your favorute is ritter sport, is it :D

Since www.elbphilharmonie.de has no english link anymore all english speaking people should use

http://elbphilharmonie-bau.de/index_html.php?language=en

or

http://elbphilharmonie-bau.de/index_flash.php?language=en

instead for new pictures of the construction site.
There is a nice moveable webcam on the page as well, this is the direct link:

http://62.206.10.222/local/viewer/cam_inner_en.html

and another webcam (with extra widescreen pics from 10am hamburg time) with the rising Elbphilharmonie in the background on the far right:

http://www.hafencity.com/webcam.php?language=en

if someone is interested in facts and pictures about the surrounding new Hafencity area (which you see on the second webcam) this is the right link:

http://www.hafencity.com/index.php?set_language=en

And a nice video about the project from this page is:

http://www.hafencity.de/film.php?id=14&language=en

And one more link: the Überseequartier which has been mentioned above and which is the rising center of Hafencity and close to the elbphilharmonie has an english webpage as well which shows many pictures and a film:

http://www.ueberseequartier.de/

^^
another webcam:
http://www.dwd.de/bvbw/generator/Sites/DWDWWW/Content/Oeffentlichkeit/WV/WV11/Warnungen/Wetter__Aktuell/Regionenwetter/Webcams/Hamburg__Hafen__Bild,property=default.gif

http://www.dwd.de/bvbw/generator/Sites/DWDWWW/Content/Oeffentlichkeit/WV/WV11/Warnungen/Wetter__Aktuell/Regionenwetter/Webcams/Hamburg__Hafen__Bild,property=default.gif

What a grand development! I find the juxtaposition of the brick cladding with the glass to be extremely unique. What an interesting idea, to take a boring unused building indicative of 60's and 70's urban decay and use it as the starting point for something truly new and spectacular, all while maintaining a vital link to the past! This is something that other cities should make a note of.

Current status of the Elbphilharmonie:

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/5685/ep2z.jpg
by Dykie (DAF)

What a grand development! I find the juxtaposition of the brick cladding with the glass to be extremely unique. What an interesting idea, to take a boring unused building indicative of 60's and 70's urban decay and use it as the starting point for something truly new and spectacular, all while maintaining a vital link to the past! This is something that other cities should make a note of.


it was done 6 years ago in NYC with the Hearst Tower :cheers:

anyways, i'm so jealous of this structure, it's beautiful! location is perfect too.

What an interesting idea, to take a boring unused building indicative of 60's and 70's urban decay and use it as the starting point for something truly new and spectacular, all while maintaining a vital link to the past!

Yes, how the times change ...

The new/old Kaispeicher-A storehouse has been handed over to the Hamburg Port Authority on 26th march 1966.

From "Hamburger Abendblatt":
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/8986/19660325ha033.jpg
Facts from the article:
storehouse area: 6,000 m²
storehouse volume: 172,000 m³
concrete volume: 20,000 m³
brick walls surface: 3,000 m²
costs: 24,000,000 DM (=12,000,000 Euro) LESS THAN FORESEEN!

:cheers:

http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/5481/elbphil506.jpg
taken 2009-7-12

As a music lover that has attended several concerts in the beutiful Musikhalle / Laeiszhalle, I'm a little sad to see it go..BUT I really can't wait for this wonderful, groundbreaking new one!

Last time I was in Hamburg , 1 year ago, I went to see the workplace, and I was amazed by the sheer scale of it.

It's so great to see that Germany is still the country where they know that spending money on "real" culture is always worth it.

cool. :cool: i like it

next one, shot from a distance greater than 2300 m

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/1341/hhelbph76.jpg
2009-7-16

Nice pictures, the second one is great. Its nearly the same angle as the two visualisations on page one of this thread.

What a huge mass this building already is, it will look gigantic from that angle when its finally done..

As a music lover that has attended several concerts in the beutiful Musikhalle / Laeiszhalle, I'm a little sad to see it go..BUT I really can't wait for this wonderful, groundbreaking new one!


What do you mean? Laeiszhalle and Elbphilharmonie will be partner-halls under one director, both concert halls will be active over the whole year, so there is nothing lost at all..

What do you mean? Laeiszhalle and Elbphilharmonie will be partner-halls under one director, both concert halls will be active over the whole year, so there is nothing lost at all..

I didn't mean that the Laeiszhalle is going to be closed or anything like that, just that it's going to become at least partly obsolete.
Without a doubt the focus of the musical life will shift from the Laeiszhalle to the ElbPhilharmonie: maybe over time, but it will happen.
Hamburg is not London , that has 5 A-list orchestras, or Berlin, that has 3.
The NDR SO and the Hamburger Phil don't generate enough business to keep open all the time two halls that big.
Plus the NDR SO has to divide itself between Hamburg, Bremen, Luebeck and Kiel.
Moreover, I'm pretty sure that all that visiting world-famoous orchestra will go to the Elbe..it'a big hall, and they will need to fill it as often as possible.

Hamburg is not London , that has 5 A-list orchestras, or Berlin, that has 3.
The NDR SO and the Hamburger Phil don't generate enough business to keep open all the time two halls that big.


Im not with you on that issue.. Those 3 halls will certainly have no problems with offering a full range program over the whole year, plannings include

international orchestra concerts, opera, chamber concerts, different residence-artists, the 'NDR Sinfonieorchester', the 'Philharmoniker Hamburg', the 'Hamburger Symphoniker', the 'Ensemble Resonanz', different amateur orchestras and -choirs, jazz concerts, world music, pop music, latin music, ...

Hamburgs music offerings will over all be richer. If someone will not generate enough business it might be other concert places less nice, but not Laeiszhalle.

In 2011 we will see the first programs :) its not that long anymore

Construction as of Sunday, 9 August,2009

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/8862/image982009.jpg
From remote webcam http://62.206.10.222/local/viewer/cam_inner.html

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/7923/schnitt1280.gif
(reverse view)

very nice plans, I'm sure this will turn out great.

Hi there

here the newest Elbphilharmonie pics from withthebeatles.de:

http://www.lisius.de/torontomaja/ep1maja.jpg
http://www.lisius.de/torontomaja/ep2maja.jpg
http://www.lisius.de/torontomaja/ep3maja.jpg
http://www.lisius.de/torontomaja/ep4maja.jpg

And last but not least, Elbphilharmonie with the QM2!
http://www.lisius.de/torontomaja/ep5maja.jpg

Maja on her way to Toronto
:)

http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/2007/epsk210809.jpg
webcam, 2009-8-21

Gaudinian inspiration?

http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/2725/plaza3ef.jpg

Amazing building for sure. Greetings from Serbia!!

Whats the current height at the moment? About 60 meters high?

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/1944/ep20090826.jpg
Whats the current height at the moment? About 60 meters high?
Maybe this more detailed drawing can help you

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/2549/epdiag62.png

latest pics from http://elbphilharmonie-bau.de


http://elbphilharmonie-bau.de/upload/images/background/z_de_sprungmarke_385_2009_8_Konzertsaele.jpg
http://elbphilharmonie-bau.de/upload/images/background/z_de_sprungmarke_388_OH526_199_GKS1.jpg
http://elbphilharmonie-bau.de/upload/images/background/z_de_sprungmarke_389_OH526_200_GKS2.jpg
http://elbphilharmonie-bau.de/upload/images/background/z_de_sprungmarke_390_OH526_206_GKS3.jpg
http://elbphilharmonie-bau.de/upload/images/background/z_de_sprungmarke_391_OH526_191_GKS4.jpg
http://elbphilharmonie-bau.de/upload/images/background/z_de_sprungmarke_393_OH526_195_Sandtorhafen.jpg
http://elbphilharmonie-bau.de/upload/images/background/z_de_sprungmarke_394_OH526_219_KKS_Dach.jpg
http://elbphilharmonie-bau.de/upload/images/background/z_de_sprungmarke_395_OH526_220_beideKS.jpg
http://elbphilharmonie-bau.de/upload/images/background/z_de_sprungmarke_396_Luftbild_E_090726_115.jpg
August 2009

reallyreally beautiful ^^
My favourite big project definately!

Fantastic updates Letniczka, thank you :)


Now we finally reached the interesting phase of the construction.
Can't wait until they mount the first parts of the cladding! When's that going to happen, btw?

some nice links for new forum users:

www.elbphilharmonie.de
www.stiftung-elbphilharmonie.de
www.elbphilharmonie-bau.de
www.hamburg.de/elbphilharmonie
www.hamburg-magazin.de/ku_hafencity_elbphilharmonie.htm
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elbphilharmonie_Hamburg

Hochtief/Vicon Animation: http://www.hochtief-vicon.de/vicon/145.jhtml
Stern-Grafik: http://www.elbphilharmonie-bau.de/upload/files/2007_STERN_Grafik.pdf
3D SketchUp Object: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=un5AIk-LtzE&feature=channel_page
Remote webcam: http://62.206.10.222/local/viewer/cam_inner.html
Sectional view: http://www.hamburg.de/contentblob/335286/data/schnitt-elbphilharmonie.jpg

Architects:
www.hoehler-partner.de
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_de_Meuron

this is one crazy but impressive building

Some current article about the Elbphilharmonie for our fellow Spaniards:

http://www.urbanity.es/2009/elbe-philharmonic-hall-hamburgo-herzog-de-meuron/

A melting ice cube on top of a world war two nazi bunker..hideous.

that's great, it's really good.

A melting ice cube on top of a world war two nazi bunker..hideous.
Wow, I didnt know that in Puerto Rico asylums for mentally disturbed computer freaks have internet access. Anyway, thank you for the info!

A melting ice cube on top of a world war two nazi bunker..hideous.

too bad it was built as a warehouse in 1963 ...

view from "Am Kaiserkai" (street)

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/8809/eph20090901900.jpg

new great EP pics

http://www.lisius.de/torontomaja/4maja-a766.jpg

http://www.lisius.de/torontomaja/4maja-a767.jpg

http://www.lisius.de/torontomaja/4maja-m805.jpg

The following is too wide to show it here so click on this and then "panorama"
http://www.lisius.de/torontomaja/4maja-m761.jpg (http://www.withthebeatles.de)

:cheers:

Great, thanks for the update :) Fantastic to see this pearl rise!

as of 18. September 2009:
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/3528/stand1892009s.png

webcam: http://62.206.10.222/local/viewer/cam_inner.html
http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/2544/stand1892009.jpg
reverse angle!

Not too late to save Hamburg's dignity and demolish this thing.

lol, this one will be a great landmark for Hamburg. i love it! :)

Can't wait to start seeing GLASS!

Can't wait to start seeing GLASS!

Start is scheduled for October/2009. We'll see :)

Here two interesting articles about Elbphilharmonie's facade. Unfortunately only in German, a pity.

Source: http://www.josef-gartner.de/Presseber/Glaswelt-Elbphilharmonie.pdf (8MB)

Wahrzeichen aus gebogenen Scheiben

Die gläserne Elbphilharmonie - Mit der Elbphilharmonie entsteht in Hamburg ein neuer Meilenstein der Glasarchitektur. Ihre von den Schweizer Architekten Herzog & de Meuron entworfene Glasfassade wird eine spektakuläre Visitenkarte der Hansestadt. Die bis zu 5 Meter hohen Glasscheiben sind teilweise konkav und konvex gewölbt. Die multifunktionalen Isoliergläser mit einer Wölbung entlang nur einer Glaskante sind weltweit einzigartig. Ihre Bedruckung erzeugt dazu spektakuläre Effekte.


Die Elbphilharmonie soll Hamburgs neues Wahrzeichen werden. Das 110 Meter hohe Gebäude steht nach Fertigstellung im Herbst 2011 wie ein riesiges Schiff auf dem ehemaligen Kaispeicher A in der Hamburger HafenCity und bildet deren kulturelles Zentrum. ln dem Bau entsteht eine Konzerthalle von Weltrang, dazu ein Hotel sowie Luxuswohnungen. Diese Nutzungen bildet die einschalige und thermisch getrennte Glasfassade außen sichtbar ab. Die Lüftungsflügel des Hotels sind wellenförmige Luken, während die Balkone der Wohnungen als hufeisenförmige Ausschnitte in den Glasverformungen gleichzeitig Ausblick, Windschutz und die seitliche Belüftung der anschließenden Zimmer gewährleisten. Der Konzertsaal im Innern schimmert mit seinem bernsteinfarbenen Foyer durch die geschlossenen Glasflächen hindurch.

Gebogene und bedruckte Glasfassaden

Die bei Gartner in Gundelfingen gefertigte Glasfassade der Elbphilharmonie ist insgesamt 21500 m² groß und hat bis zu 5 m hohe Glasscheiben. Neben planen Fassadenelementen werden in die Außenwand auch mit gewölbten Scheiben versehene Fassadenelemente eingebaut, die entweder nach außen oder innen gebogen sind. Diese sphärisch gebogenen Elemente stellen eine Innovation im Fassadenbau dar. Bei der Glasbiegung musste darauf geachtet werden, dass die Beschichtung beim Biegevorgang nicht verbrennt. Der Glashersteller und der Betrieb, der die Gläser biegt, waren von Anfang an in die Entwicklung mit einbezogen. Die Gläser sind nicht nur beschichtet, sondern werden auch mit einem Raster aus weißen Punkten und Chrompunkten als Sonnenschutz bedruckt. Die Dichte des Rasters wird computergestützt individuell für die jeweilige Nutzung der Räume im Inneren berechnet. Jedes Element ist somit ein Unikat.
Die 5 m breiten Standardelemente haben ein Gewicht von circa 1200 kg. Von den 2200 eingesetzten Glasscheiben sind 595 Stück sphärisch gebogen und 1605 Stück plane Scheiben, jeweils aus eisenoxydarmen Glas mit besonders klarer Durchsicht (so genanntes Weißglas). Wo die Fassade an das wellenförmige Dach der Elbphilharmonie anschließt, hat jede Scheibe ein anderes Format. Beide Elementgrößen gibt es mit einer Biegung nach außen und spiegelbildlich mit einem Versatzmaß von 350 mm innen. In der orthogonal zur Wölbung entstehenden Fläche wird ein ovaler Wendeflügel eingebaut, der zur Belüftung des Gebäudes genutzt werden kann. Im Wohnbereich werden die gebogenen Elemente weniger häufig eingesetzt als im Hotelbereich.
Die circa 370 Wendeflügel wurden ebenfalls speziell für die Elbphilharmonie entwickelt. Sie werden vorwiegend im Hotelbereich eingebaut und dienen der individuellen Frischluftzufuhr. Die hufeisenförmig ausgeschnittenen Glas-Balkone im Wohnbereich erinnern an eine Stimmgabel. Für diese Loggia-Fassade fertigt Gartner einen ganz speziellen Elementtypen. Die circa 100 "Stimmgabeln" aus Glasfaserkunststoff sind nach außen gebogen und müssen die Loggia-Verglasung aufnehmen. Die Elementgrößen für die Foyerfassade betragen bis zu 5 m Höhe und 4,30 m Breite. Das größte dieser Elemente wiegt fast 2000 kg. Die eingeschossigen Plazafassaden mit einer Gesamtfläche von circa 3500 m² sind zurückgesetzt und werden bis zu einer Höhe von maximal 8 m hergestellt. Die Plaza befindet sich direkt auf der Oberkante des 7. Obergeschosses, der Oberseite des ehemaligen Kaispeichers. Ab hier beginnen auch die von Gartner gefertigten Elementfassaden.
Der Glasaufbau der Isolierverglasung besteht aus einer VSG-Außenscheibe aus 2 x 8 mm mit Chrompunkten, Sonnenschutzschicht und grauen Siebdruckpunkten in RAL 7012, einem Scheibenzwischenraum von 16 mm sowie einer VSG-Innenscheibe aus 2 x 6 mm mit Low-E- Beschichtung.

Fassadentest bei Orkanstärke

Besucher und Bewohner der Elbphilharmonie können selbst während eines Orkans sicher sein, dass die Scheiben nicht bersten oder Regen eindringt. In Gundelfingen bestanden die Fassadenelemente einen dynamischen Fassadentest. Dabei erzeugte ein Flugzeugmotor Windböen bis zu 150 km/h. Vor den Glaselementen wurde ein Flugzeugmotor auf einem Fahrgestell befestigt. Die Elbphilharmonie wird mit ihrer bedruckten und gebogenen Fassade weithin sichtbar sein und das Bild des Hamburger Hafens in Zukunft ähnlich stark prägen wie das Opernhaus in Sydney die australische Metropole und ihren Hafen. Insbesondere bei Dunkelheit wird der riesiqe Glaskörper zu einem echten "Highlight", der zu einem Leuchtturm der Glasarchitektur des 21. Jahrhunderts wird. Und auch von innen bieten sich dem Besucher faszinierende Ausblicke weit über die Elbe hinaus, aber auch dank der gebogenen Scheiben senkrecht nach unten.

www.josef-gartner.de

GLASWELT
www.glaswelt.de
11.2008

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Source: http://www.stiftung-elbphilharmonie.de/upload/files/infobrief/z_infobrief_15_090831_Infobrief_Nr_15.pdf

Neues aus dem Projekt

Härtetest für die gläserne Fassade der Elbphilharmonie

Die Elbphilharmonie wächst weiter in die Höhe: Der Rohbau der Elbphilharmonie ist bereits im 14. Stockwerk angelangt und die Bewehrungsarbeiten am Großen Konzertsaal bieten einen Vorgeschmack auf dessen Weinbergarchitektur. Doch nicht nur in der Hansestadt wird mit Hochdruck für die Elbphilharmonie gearbeitet. Bei Josef Gartner, der Firma, die für die Herstellung der Glasfassade verantwortlich ist, füllen sich die Lagerhallen mit jedem Tag. Denn im bayerischen Gundelfingen werden die Glasfassadenelemente zusammengesetzt, ehe sie Ende des Jahres nach Hamburg gebracht und montiert werden. Hier fand auch die härteste Bewährungsprobe für die Fassadenelemente statt – mit einem 14-Zylinder Doppelsternschiebemotor einer Herkules 759 mit 2.200 PS (oben im Bild zu erkennen). Bei diesem Testverfahren erzeugt ein Flugzeugmotor Windböen bis zu 150 km/h. Über ein Sprühgerüst wird die Fassade zudem mit zwei Liter Wasser pro Minute und Quadratmeter beregnet. Der üblicherweise geforderte dynamische Winddruck von 600 Pascal wird schon mit Windgeschwindigkeiten von 110 km/h erreicht. Die zum Teil gebogenen und beschichteten Elemente der Glasfassade werden circa eine Stunde lang auf Dichtigkeit und Widerstandsfähigkeit getestet. Mit Erfolg: Nicht ein einziger Tropfen fand seinen Weg durch die aneinander gefügten Fassadenelemente! Die Besucher und Bewohner der Elbphilharmonie können also sicher sein, dass selbst während eines Orkans kein Regen eindringt. Bevor die Scheiben in Gundelfingen in ihre Rahmenelemente eingebracht werden, haben sie bereits eine lange Reise hinter sich gebracht, die sie von Plattling in Bayern über Bretten in Baden-Württemberg bis nach Padua in Italien führte. Ab dem Herbst werden die 1.100 einzelnen Fassadenelemente nach Hamburg transportiert und an die Elbphilharmonie montiert. Später wird jeder Besucher die vielfältigen Nutzungen im Inneren des gläsernen Baus, ob Konzerthalle, Hotel oder Wohnungen, an der Gestaltung der Glasfassade ablesen können. Die Lüftungsflügel des Hotels bestehen aus wellenförmigen Luken. Die Balkone der Wohnungen als hufeisenförmige Ausschnitte in den Glasverformungen gewähren gleichzeitig Ausblick, Windschutz und die seitliche Belüftung der anschließenden Zimmer. Und das Herzstück der Elbphilharmonie, der Große Konzertsaal, schimmert mit seinem bernsteinfarbenen Foyer durch die geschlossenen Glasflächen hindurch. Diese sphärisch gebogenen Elemente stellen eine Innovation im Fassadenbau dar. Ein neues Produktionsverfahren, das weltweit für Aufsehen sorgt und neue Maßstäbe in der Fassadentechnik setzt.

ReGeHamburg
INFOBRIEF der Stiftung Elbphilharmonie
Nr. 15 September 2009

^^Very interesting articles, dziekuje bardzo! :)

I love how well-organized the site looks.

Not too late to save Hamburg's dignity and demolish this thing.Seriously?

Seriously?
Sure, but who wonders. He's from Oldenburg, a German city famous for its meaninglessness :lol: :lol: :lol:
(http://www.stupidedia.org/stupi/Oldenburg)

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o122/realJot/elp1.jpg
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o122/realJot/elp4.jpg
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o122/realJot/elp2.jpg
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o122/realJot/elp3.jpg

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o122/realJot/elp2.jpg

The highrise on the left edge is 100m high (incl. antenna). So you can also use the taller of the two yellow cranes to get an idea of the final height of the philharmonic hall.

Spectacular! I'd like to visit Hamburg some day when this building is ready.

Any visible GLASS yet? :okay:

This will become a true landmark!

WOW! No words, only emotions!

Years later, still a stunning and beautiful project.

The cross-section diagram is fascinating.

i found a fascinating filmclip about the demolishing process of the interior of the old warehouse and the construction up to floor 13 of the elbphilharmonie in fast motion. the clip is about 4.30 mins long, covers 29 months from april 2007 to august 2009 and is shot from different viewing angles. you will see the changing of the seasons, ship traffic, night shots, the surrounding area and other interesting stuff..
Its on the NDR (North German Radio) TV-Stations web site

if you like it you should watch it again, you will see more details that you missed before :)

enjoy :)

http://www.ndr.de/nachrichten/dossiers/elbphilharmonie/zeitrafferfilm100.html

http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/2298/schnitt2838800.jpg
Images from:
www.elbphilharmonie.de www.elbphilharmonie-bau.de www.stiftung-elbphilharmonie.de
Pic#1 - reverse angle

how huge this project is, the following diagram shows
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/5815/schnitt2842.gif
:cheers:

First glass is there: www.hamburg1.de - Hamburg1 TV video clip (http://video.telvi.de/videos/2009/51/e0171f9333a9b4a49addaef4727ee5ae.flv)

Wow Wow Wow !!!

Thanks for posting that video link. It's quite something! :)

http://www.ld-host.de/uploads/images/b221544f5e740490a510e8b90c08b657.jpg

the backside should be nearly topped out, I think

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o122/realJot/DSCF1852.jpg


http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o122/realJot/DSCF1854.jpg


http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o122/realJot/DSCF1855.jpg

^^ooooooh cladding!! Looks good. Niiiice.

cladding? there is no cladding, yet

cladding? there is no cladding, yet

hope you don't mind, Ji-Ja-Jot:

http://i681.photobucket.com/albums/vv180/deqws/DSCF1854.jpg

hope you don't mind, Ji-Ja-Jot:
Maybe he doesn't understand what cladding is ;)
wiki: "In building construction, siding or cladding may refer to the application of one material over another to provide a skin or layer intended to control the infiltration of weather elements, or for aesthetic purposes"

The first three 5 x 3.5m elements are really there.
Evidence: http://62.206.10.222/local/viewer/cam_inner.html
The next ones will come in January - 6 a day, as promised.
:cheers:

I didn't realisze the few cladding-parts there. I searched my first picture for it and there the only cladding-part is really good hided behind the the red crane

Again trouble for this strange project . Hochtief construction firm and project developer demand again more money from the city and threatened the city ,the construction could need a year more , also they are more or less in time now and the construction need at all 2 Years .:bash:

how huge this project is, the following diagram shows
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/5815/schnitt2842.gif
:cheers:

First glass is there: www.hamburg1.de - Hamburg1 TV video clip (http://video.telvi.de/videos/2009/51/e0171f9333a9b4a49addaef4727ee5ae.flv)

I already wondered how big those two were compared. I wouldn't have thought that the Elb Philharmonie was that much bigger.:cheers:

I love this project! can't wait to see the end result.

@ Denoordrotterdamer : Yes , indeed it is a superb project. Its not just The size but architecture is verry big challenge for the involved engineers and construction company. The bigger concert room ( "grosser Saal") is situated like huge stomach in the building will stretching over 11 - 14 floors , but where it is are of course no floors , no ceillings . Statical challenge. The room will be "dressed " into a white skin , an unusual , verry new material for sound proove (?) , because the building will also host several luxury condos and 240 room hotel , the concerts should not touch them.

In the "General urban developments" you will find in the thread Hamburg-Hafencity developments also some later pics of the concert-hall and the rest of "HafenCity". :)

New pics:
http://elbphilharmonie-bau.de/upload/images/background/z_de_sprungmarke_420_1001_04_Foyertreppe_web.jpg

http://elbphilharmonie-bau.de/upload/images/background/z_de_sprungmarke_435_1001_11_GrKS_web.jpg

http://elbphilharmonie-bau.de/upload/images/background/z_de_sprungmarke_423_1001_07a_Fassade_web.jpg

http://elbphilharmonie-bau.de/upload/images/background/z_de_sprungmarke_425_100128_Start_Elphi_web_.jpg

from http://elbphilharmonie-bau.de/index_html.php?sprungmarke=432 (six more)

Letniczka, Thank you for updating us with pics. Awesome! It's very, very exciting to see this project unfold!!

Letniczka, Thank you for updating us with pics. Awesome! It's very, very exciting to see this project unfold!!

Today's pics esp4you :)

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/7896/ep100207891lam.jpg

http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/8646/ep100207890lam.jpg

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/1227/ep100207880lam.jpg

http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/4017/ep100207869lam.jpg

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/8958/ep100207862lam.jpg

http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/494/ep100207861lam.jpg

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/6872/ep100207859lam.jpg

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/1770/ep100207857lam.jpg

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/3451/ep100207831lam.jpg

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/796/ep100207909lam.jpg

http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/3613/ep100207851lam.jpg

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/1879/ep100207871lam.jpg


:cheers:

Great progress. Thnx for the updates! :)

Wonderful close-up shots of the cladding.

What a stunner... it's going to be incredible when it's finished. And watching the construction process is incredible to begin with!

:cheers:

:shocked: I just saw this project now!! Bloody fantastic!! :bow:

Yesterday's pics
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/5641/ep200213062lam.jpg

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/8277/ep200213143lam.jpg

http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/9707/ep200213145lam.jpg

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/8718/ep200213047lam.jpg (light snowing)

http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/2820/ep20100213141lam.jpg

http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/6549/ep20100213128lam.jpg

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/120/ep200213133lam.jpg

Creazy glass! Increadible.

Don't like the glass. Looks not so nice.

Great project for Hamburg. This will be a true icon for the city for many years.

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o122/realJot/DSCF1956.jpg

from far away

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o122/realJot/DSCF1987.jpg

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o122/realJot/DSCF1990.jpg

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o122/realJot/DSCF1994.jpg

Cool update. The last pic is stunning.

Taken yesterday, by maja88 ... with a little help from her friend :)

http://www.lisius.de/torontomaja/cae3608-640.jpg

http://www.lisius.de/torontomaja/cae3613-640.jpg

http://www.lisius.de/torontomaja/cae3626-640.jpg

http://www.lisius.de/torontomaja/cae3634-640.jpg

http://www.lisius.de/torontomaja/cae3637-640.jpg

http://www.lisius.de/torontomaja/cae3640-640.jpg

http://www.lisius.de/torontomaja/cae3642-640.jpg

http://www.lisius.de/torontomaja/cae3630-640.jpg

Spectaculair! The cladding looks real good in those lasts shots.

oh boy, at first I thought the cladding was damaged by the storm a few days ago. I'm not sure what to say. it is unique, that's for sure. but is it going to look nice, when finished? let's wait and see how it turns out.