^^ free ride? why? diplomat? :D

btw, i have a question...is that downward slope thing in the middle of the runway built on purpose or was it just because of the terrain? :?:

its because of the terrain.:)

its because of the terrain.:)

the incline is not that steep right?

btw, i'll give you guys this exclusive pic i have...i'll only post this once...and only on this thread.

my thoughts on what happened exactly 9 years ago...

http://img3.cdn.crunchyroll.com/i/spire2/296f41515fe8839fea5b2e3034ed38591234072939_full.jpg

thanks for sharing the control tower pics, I remember bago mag open ang airport nag field trip kami dun and pinaakyat kami sa roofdeck ng control tower..scary pero lingaw :lol:

the incline is not that steep right?

btw, i'll give you guys this exclusive pic i have...i'll only post this once...and only on this thread.

my thoughts on what happened exactly 9 years ago...

http://img3.cdn.crunchyroll.com/i/spire2/296f41515fe8839fea5b2e3034ed38591234072939_full.jpg

The worst aviation disaster in Philippine history at Samal Island.

What is it in there now? Is there a marker or something to commemorate those who have lost their lives?

Anyway, I tried to land a A321 at FSX several months ago and now I get it why Air Phil crashed on Samal Island. I have experienced almost zero visibility in Davao myself during summer.

;35366626']thanks for sharing the control tower pics, I remember bago mag open ang airport nag field trip kami dun and pinaakyat kami sa roofdeck ng control tower..scary pero lingaw :lol:

saan? sa new or old tower?

nakaakyat na ako sa roofdeck ng control tower, yung bago. Oo! Mejo scary, but it was fun. hahaha. Super mahangin talaga! :))

The worst aviation disaster in Philippine history at Samal Island.

What is it in there now? Is there a marker or something to commemorate those who have lost their lives?

Anyway, I tried to land a A321 at FSX several months ago and now I get it why Air Phil crashed on Samal Island. I have experienced almost zero visibility in Davao myself during summer.

I don't think the weather nine years ago was poor, in fact visibility is great and the weather is fine. I can still remember the weather back in 4.19.00.

new tower, di pa tapos ang airport nun, mga 4th year college ata ako..that time di pa nga tapos ang front building ng passenger terminal pero since field trip nga pinaakyat kami sa rooftop (IIRC parang wala ngang railing eh, eh mga 10 pa ata kami hahaha)

pansin mo talaga from there ang slope ng runway

hahahaha! Scary! you should have tried the old tower rin! wala lang.

pangit. walang elevator, stairs. forever. ang narrow pa ng stairs! hahaa. parang T2. Lol

Yesterday, I went to the tower for some important things and at around 10 in the morning, I just saw this big, black smoke, I think this is somewhere in R. Castillo or not? The smoke was a little bit scary though.

http://images.renzbulseco.multiply.com/image/2/photos/304/500x500/21/4.18-23.JPG?et=OCsDTia0hfGtP304RFmP6A&nmid=232760081

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^^ mag-overnight ka sa tower?

btw, its time for a new thread..pwede ako gawa? :)

:3

The worst aviation disaster in Philippine history at Samal Island.

What is it in there now? Is there a marker or something to commemorate those who have lost their lives?

Anyway, I tried to land a A321 at FSX several months ago and now I get it why Air Phil crashed on Samal Island. I have experienced almost zero visibility in Davao myself during summer.

until now wlang permanent monument...sad :(

:lock: either i'll start the new thread or i'll have to wait for the mod~

nope. 7am-3pm lang ako sa Tower. hahaha. wala na kasing 3am flights, diba remember wala nang Intl flight ang 5J.

new thread?? wag na!

welcome aboard... :D sorry, i can't wait...hehe~

post away guys~

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:D

mods, kayo na edit sa link...thanks ;) ~

nope. 7am-3pm lang ako sa Tower. hahaha. wala na kasing 3am flights, diba remember wala nang Intl flight ang 5J.

new thread?? wag na!

well, like all other threads...this has reached its limit...

~new thread! :lock:

nice pair of broncos there eh! :D

^^ heh, yeah...those are one of my fav pics...they've been doing tandem runs since the good 'ol days...hehe~ :D

Ilang runways meron ang airport?

^^ well, obviously...just one...its not like its that busy~ :D

thread six na ang RPMD aka DVO aka DIA!!! weehoh!

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April 18, 2009

haha. like to share some infos.

gliding slope ng Runway 05, ok. gumagana.

sa runway 23 - nasira kasi natamaan ng kidlat, and it's very expensive..millions of pesos plus the process is very slooooow. kaya walang gliding slope if the final approach is in runway 23 :)

haha. like to share some infos.

gliding slope ng Runway 05, ok. gumagana.

sa runway 23 - nasira kasi natamaan ng kidlat, and it's very expensive..millions of pesos plus the process is very slooooow. kaya walang gliding slope if the final approach is in runway 23 :)

...so how would it affect landings if the glide slope is damaged?

WOW Thread 6 na!!!
yahoo!!!

I don't think the weather nine years ago was poor, in fact visibility is great and the weather is fine. I can still remember the weather back in 4.19.00.

Now the question is...why nisangit sa lubi ang airplane?
Did the ATO (now CAAP) released the findings? I think they also tapped NTSB for the investigation since Boeing is an American aircraft.

Sorry, sa next thread na lang continue...

I don't think the weather nine years ago was poor, in fact visibility is great and the weather is fine. I can still remember the weather back in 4.19.00.

Now the question is...why nisangit sa lubi ang airplane?
Did the ATO (now CAAP) released the findings? I think they also tapped NTSB for the investigation since Boeing is an American aircraft.

Sorry, sa next thread na lang continue...

^^ nasangit sa lubi? i guess the ill-fated plane was already in trouble when it approached Samal island. afaik the plane itself is not air worthy that's why the airplane company paid $100(?) million for the victims.

noize there is a permanent cross marker on the crashed site.

Now the question is...why nisangit sa lubi ang airplane?
Did the ATO (now CAAP) released the findings? I think they also tapped NTSB for the investigation since Boeing is an American aircraft.

Sorry, sa next thread na lang continue...

taken from the Aviation Safety Network :

Air Philippines Flight 541 left Manila (MNL) at 05:21 and was due to land at Davao (DVO) around 06:45. At 06:56, while approaching Davao, the crew were told to discontinue the ILS runway 05 approach because of traffic on the runway (probably Philippine Airlines flight 809 which had just landed). A request to carry out a VOR/DME approach and landing in the opposite direction (runway 23) was approved by ATC. Last radio contact was at 07:01 when the pilot reported 7 miles out. Nothing more was heard from the flight when ATC tried to clear the flight to land around 07:03. The Boeing slammed into a coconut plantation in Mt. Kalangan, Sitio Camanlangan in Barangay San Isidro, disintegrated and caught fire. The accident site is around 500 feet above sea level; at that point the altitude of the aircraft should have been 1500 feet.
Weather was said to have been fair with a low cloud ceiling for Davao

strange that they agreed to use runway 23 when before the 737, PAL A330 used runway 05...could wind be one of the key causes to the accident? or did the plane stalled?

btw, heres another photo...2/2 from my album

http://img2.cdn.crunchyroll.com/i/spire4/fd0c2952524825178c3c865d78d15dd41234072946_full.jpg

just hot off the press...

DIA STATS from Y2004 to Y2008

Domestic Passengers

2004 - 1,128,624
2005 - 1,021,197 decrease of 9%
2006 - 1,302,364 increase of 13%
2007 - 1,480,408 increase of 11.4%
2008 - 1,646,367 increase of 11.1%

International Passengers

2004 - 22,571
2005 - 22,881 increase of 1.01%
2006 - 33,663 increase of 45%
2007 - 53,856 increase of 60%
2008 - 46,468 decrease of 13%

Cargo

2008 - 33,386,794 kilos

Domestic Flights

2004 - 11,191
2005 - 7,854
2006 - 9,742
2007 - 13,762
2008 - 15,185

International Flights

2004 - 634
2005 - 688
2006 - 1052
2007 - 1,126
2008 - 869


source : CAAP

...so how would it affect landings if the glide slope is damaged?

may flight map naman ata sila and i think ang threat lang naman sa final approach is doon sa runway 05 because of the hills, eh sa runway 23, dagat naman eh, (correct me if im wrong)

pero likewise, mas maganda talaga kung may glideslope.

taken from the Aviation Safety Network :



strange that they agreed to use runway 23 when before the 737, PAL A330 used runway 05...could wind be one of the key causes to the accident? or did the plane stalled?


huh? 1500 and 500 ft of altitude spells a big difference noh! like did the pilot notice its altitude while on hold? baka cguro baguhan yung pilot and hindi siya sanay magland ng eroplano here in davao.

^^ Hmmm...What happened to the flight data recorder? I even heard the last broadcast of the pilot and Air Philippines from the voice cockpit recorder and was broadcasted in one of the TV stations...and the voice of screaming people is horrible to hear....

Anyway, low clouds is really a scary thing if you'll be doing a visual approach instead of ILS.

^^ Hmmm...What happened to the flight data recorder? I even heard the last broadcast of the pilot and Air Philippines from the voice cockpit recorder and was broadcasted in one of the TV stations...and the voice of screaming people is horrible to hear....

Anyway, low clouds is really a scary thing if you'll be doing a visual approach instead of ILS.

yikes scary indeed. Hmmm. I haven't heard the cockpit voice recorder.

and yeah, we mustn't forget that the ILS on both runway 05 and 23 were installed in 2004.. and this disaster occurred in the year 2000. Yeah right, it seemed that this certain mishap was caused by pilot error accompanied by the inevitable force of mother nature. tsktsktsk. sayang.

just hot off the press...

DIA STATS from Y2004 to Y2008

Domestic Passengers

2004 - 1,128,624
2005 - 1,021,197 decrease of 9%
2006 - 1,302,364 increase of 13%
2007 - 1,480,408 increase of 11.4%
2008 - 1,646,367 increase of 11.1%

International Passengers

2004 - 22,571
2005 - 22,881 increase of 1.01%
2006 - 33,663 increase of 45%
2007 - 53,856 increase of 60%
2008 - 46,468 decrease of 13%

Cargo

2008 - 33,386,794 kilos

Domestic Flights

2004 - 11,191
2005 - 7,854
2006 - 9,742
2007 - 13,762
2008 - 15,185

International Flights

2004 - 634
2005 - 688
2006 - 1052
2007 - 1,126
2008 - 869

source : CAAP

This is not helpful, what is the source of this decrease, obviously someone stopped flying that's why the numbers went down. Double digit growth for domestic is good but as can be seen limited. Really need to develop the foreign for Davao to take of.

4x weekly nalang nga ang Silk Air. Hahaha. Survivor talaga ang Silk Air. Woohoo!

This is not helpful, what is the source of this decrease, obviously someone stopped flying that's why the numbers went down. Double digit growth for domestic is good but as can be seen limited. Really need to develop the foreign for Davao to take of.

flights to and from singapore that is being serviced by silk air was reduced and the regular davao-manado flight was made into a charter basis flights. that is the reason for the decrease of international aircraft movement.

in the domestic front, double digit percentage growth is very good. this will further increase because of the numerous additional domestic flights that is coming in and out of the DIA.

we must also take into consideration that this is the period of global recession. nobody is spared rom its ill effects.

4x weekly nalang nga ang Silk Air. Hahaha. Survivor talaga ang Silk Air. Woohoo!

yeas survivor talaga. their reduction of flights was not an effect of the global recession. it was done to shield the route form the effects of the recession. right now their flights are still doing good. 90% to 100% load factor for the first quarter of the year.

I took Philippine Airlines PR 812 (A340) last Tuesday, April 14. I spotted another Philippine Airlines (A330) parked on the cargo tarmac. Here are some pics taken from my phone :)

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa122/wabbygabby/Image1445.jpg
The plane and other airport facilities

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa122/wabbygabby/Image1446.jpg
Philippine Airlines (RP-C3332? i think..)

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa122/wabbygabby/Image1447.jpg
DIA control tower

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa122/wabbygabby/Image1448.jpg
A closer look on the engine being replaced

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa122/wabbygabby/Image1449.jpg
Another shot of the A330

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa122/wabbygabby/Image1450.jpg
Waiting for pushback

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa122/wabbygabby/Image1451.jpg
Close-up of the plane

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa122/wabbygabby/Image1452.jpg
Admiring the design of the airline's logo on it's tail

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Pushback.... Goodbye Davao....

^^ wow, kinda rare to see two widebodies at the same time in DIA, imo~ :D

what camera did u use? :D

^^ wow, kinda rare to see two widebodies at the same time in DIA, imo~ :D

what camera did u use? :D

i used my cellphone lang.... and i turned it off immediately nung nagpushback na ang eroplano heehee

^^ i wonder how heavy that engine is...because i noticed the forklift and a truck in the first pic :D

ay shiet sana sa Tuesday nalang ako pumunta.. oo nga. 2 widebodies sa DIA occurs occasionally. sayang.

but heck. off duty tito ko every tue/wed. useless pa rin. sigh.

^^ i wonder how heavy that engine is...because i noticed the forklift and a truck in the first pic :D

i also wondered how the new parts were delivered here by another PAL aircraft.... hmmmm do you think it fits inside the luggage compartment of the plane.... i don't think so.... hmmmm

^^ hmm...i remember a pic at airliners.net of planes carrying the replacement engines under their wings...i remember one example...a 747 with 5 engines :lol:

http://images.renzbulseco.multiply.com/image/2/photos/304/500x500/7/4.18-7.JPG?et=oPis6Xov3cDik5xJs%2BH3Dw&nmid=232760081

hills and grasses


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inside the tower.

http://images.renzbulseco.multiply.com/image/2/photos/304/500x500/14/4.18-15.JPG?et=wXLC2HSGXUIspt%2BWL56nqQ&nmid=232760081

View from the 7th floor. Boeing 737 and A320

RP-C3193 on approach to 05

http://img2.cdn.crunchyroll.com/i/spire4/c57358a1883be2de5c6c59b4967105f71240237346_full.jpg

what i like sa pal, kahit na dili puno ang plane maski less than 50% ang load, maski ang fare almost the same with ceb (200 pesos lang ang diff) gamit pa rin ang aerobridge at may libreng snacks & freeflowing coffee, water or tea.

true! parang SOP na ata ng 5J na hindi na gumamit ng airbridge forever. ugh

ang Zest Air ba naguutilize rin ng air bridge ng airport or hindi?

RP-C3193 on approach to 05

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Noize, taga Vincent Heights ka?

^^ uhh...no. i'm near matina...hehe~ but i always frequent the airport~ :D

true! parang SOP na ata ng 5J na hindi na gumamit ng airbridge forever. ugh

ang Zest Air ba naguutilize rin ng air bridge ng airport or hindi?



di ko pa natry ang zestair. wala pang nakasakay sa amin ng z2. (z2 ba ila code?) though my officemates availed their P718 all in fare to manila pero this june pa. maski a320 ang plane nila, mejo takot akong sumakay esp sa take-off & landing baka parehas lang sila ng cebupacific. i dunno basta pal iba ang landing nila, swabe kaayo.

^^ hmm...i remember a pic at airliners.net of planes carrying the replacement engines under their wings...i remember one example...a 747 with 5 engines :lol:

Yes they do that. But i think it can be done either way - either inside the plane or outside making it look like the plane has 5 engines. Remember the Indian airline at ACI?

And by the way...It's really nice to see 2 different widebodies at DIA. Sayang, sana hindi lang phone cam and nadala mo. But then we're glad you shared the photos with us @ jogavilz.

what i like sa pal, kahit na dili puno ang plane maski less than 50% ang load, maski ang fare almost the same with ceb (200 pesos lang ang diff) gamit pa rin ang aerobridge at may libreng snacks & freeflowing coffee, water or tea.

that's right. but just like 5J, the cheap seats are limited. some of those on board are actually paying way more expensive fare at the same class. the best thing to do is to book ahead of time so you can avail of their no-frills promo. the cheapest for MNL-DVO fare for PAL under Econolight is around P1800 one way. but you get to fly using widebodies either A330 or 340. something 5J won't offer you.

^^ uhh...no. i'm near matina...hehe~ but i always frequent the airport~ :D

WOW HA. adik! :))) hahaahha

^^ well, i hav nothing to do...since the davao drag racing scene was discontinued in 2006...i got awfully bored...so i took aviation... :D

true! parang SOP na ata ng 5J na hindi na gumamit ng airbridge forever. ugh

ang Zest Air ba naguutilize rin ng air bridge ng airport or hindi?

that depends, the MA-60 can't use the airbridge... :D

What could have happened that two of PAL's wide-bodied aircrafts were parked at the same time? The other one was obviously undergoing some repairs. Baka dito sya naabutan ng need for serious repairs kaya di na sya nakalipad pabalik ng Manila? :dunno:

flights to and from singapore that is being serviced by silk air was reduced and the regular davao-manado flight was made into a charter basis flights. that is the reason for the decrease of international aircraft movement.

in the domestic front, double digit percentage growth is very good. this will further increase because of the numerous additional domestic flights that is coming in and out of the DIA.

we must also take into consideration that this is the period of global recession. nobody is spared rom its ill effects.

i heard about the manado flights as the numbers were very soft

i know sia is still doing well so am curious with their move. i suppose no one is interested in serving it anyway, too bad Sing is not included in EAGA nor DIA included in ASEAN open skies for now as this will surely lure someone like TR to at least look into it. i know these guys aren't cheap as instead of meeting me in Sing next week they opted to fly up here and with us to Sing because the price was basically the same and mag free stopover na lang sila dito...

no hope pa rin on the HK one?

@peng hok : yeah, something like that...but still nice to see two at the same time~ parang for a day naging "focus city" ng PAL... :lol:

that's right. but just like 5J, the cheap seats are limited. some of those on board are actually paying way more expensive fare at the same class. the best thing to do is to book ahead of time so you can avail of their no-frills promo. the cheapest for MNL-DVO fare for PAL under Econolight is around P1800 one way. but you get to fly using widebodies either A330 or 340. something 5J won't offer you.

UR VERY RIGHT MAN... GOOD THIND DAVAO CAN INDULGE THIS WIDEBODY JETS... THAT ZAMBOANGA CAN'T ENJOY.. HEHE...

QUESTION PO, ILANG SEATS MERON ANG a330 & a340?

UR VERY RIGHT MAN... GOOD THIND DAVAO CAN INDULGE THIS WIDEBODY JETS... THAT ZAMBOANGA CAN'T ENJOY.. HEHE...

QUESTION PO, ILANG SEATS MERON ANG a330 & a340?

a330 - 302 pax, bi-class layout

a340 - 265 pax, bi-class layout

i heard about the manado flights as the numbers were very soft

i know sia is still doing well so am curious with their move. i suppose no one is interested in serving it anyway, too bad Sing is not included in EAGA nor DIA included in ASEAN open skies for now as this will surely lure someone like TR to at least look into it. i know these guys aren't cheap as instead of meeting me in Sing next week they opted to fly up here and with us to Sing because the price was basically the same and mag free stopover na lang sila dito...

no hope pa rin on the HK one?

the move to reduce flights was a precautionary one. maybe its one way of shielding the airline from the recession. btw even the flights to and from cebu was reduced.

i have spoken to some people from the airline industry, the flights of 5j from dvo to sing and hk would have been a successful one. the only thing that hindered the people from biting the low fares that they offered was the schedule. the scheduling was awfully bad.

the travel agencies said that passengers from davao would rather pay the premium fare to reach their destination via a good scheduling rather pay a cheaper fare and reach their destinations very late into the night or very early in the morning. i believe them because i would do the same...:)

UR VERY RIGHT MAN... GOOD THIND DAVAO CAN INDULGE THIS WIDEBODY JETS... THAT ZAMBOANGA CAN'T ENJOY.. HEHE...

QUESTION PO, ILANG SEATS MERON ANG a330 & a340?

don't worry...your airport may soon see those biggies in action...lets hope for your new terminal~ :)

@peng hok : yeah, something like that...but still nice to see two at the same time~ parang for a day naging "focus city" ng PAL... :lol:

Of course. It's always good to see more than one plane parked at the same time. And widebodies at that! ;)

don't worry...your airport may soon see those biggies in action...lets hope for your new terminal~ :)

waah, wait for another new breed of politicians, mayor, representatives and president for that.. :lol:

What could have happened that two of PAL's wide-bodied aircrafts were parked at the same time? The other one was obviously undergoing some repairs. Baka dito sya naabutan ng need for serious repairs kaya di na sya nakalipad pabalik ng Manila? :dunno:

if you notice sa domestic wing centennial terminal, widebodied plane usually bound for davao. so i guess normal occurence lang na magkasabay ang dalawang a330/340 sa dia.

that's right. but just like 5J, the cheap seats are limited. some of those on board are actually paying way more expensive fare at the same class. the best thing to do is to book ahead of time so you can avail of their no-frills promo. the cheapest for MNL-DVO fare for PAL under Econolight is around P1800 one way. but you get to fly using widebodies either A330 or 340. something 5J won't offer you.

the only problem with econolight... limited baggage & you cannot choose your seat during check-in kung puno. pero pag may bakante, after take off pwede ng lumipat. other than that, magkapareho na ang fiesta class & econolight. may dalawang type din yata fiesta class. ang isa mas mahal ang fare if you wish to avail points for mabuhaymiles. mas mura ang walang points.

hahaha. bihira na talaga ang 747 dito. okay naman eh. A330, A340. :)) malalaki naman yan :)


got this from a blog :)
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(January 12,Monday. DIA) While taxiing for departure runway 05, the Dash 8 pilot of PAL774 reported seeing three dogs frolicking on the runway. Obviously, those dogs were very familiar with the airport and its operations since they didn’t appear to be scared of the taxiing aircraft.
Since it was my shift (the supposed to be supervisor on duty was on birthday leave), I called the roving guard to report the presence of the dogs. It was the Middle guard instead who promptly reported he was at the site where the dogs intelligently exited through the perimeter fence of the airport. (Unfortunately for the owner of the dogs, his pets lead the CAAP guard on duty to his kennel…err..house.)

^^ hehehe...lagyan na ang runway ng "beware of planes" :lol:

taken earlier...

http://img3.cdn.crunchyroll.com/i/spire1/1ea52d29d53a246df790b8e16fea5f3d1240319046_full.jpg

http://img3.cdn.crunchyroll.com/i/spire1/ba2f0d61166603a0f17c7d137f9d706b1240320919_full.jpg

if any of you watched TV patrol (southern mindanao) kanina...well yeh...i was there..but not on tv..i stayed near the approach lights nalang :D

another note : the reg is still RP-C3193...the third time i saw this bird~ ;)

what time yung PAL? Ai. A320.

http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/6748/photo392fj9.jpg

http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/9733/diaso0.jpg

http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/6748/photo392fj9.jpg

sayang nasa landside lang ang ganito na design, pagdating mo sa airside it's a long concrete structure......

may nakaexperience ba sa inyo ng misapproach or crosswind landing here in DIA?

^^ i think no, crosswind landings only happen during a storm right? and as for misapproaches...i think its very rare for that to happen....especially with ILS, IMO~ (correct me on that... :D)

btw, why are you asking anyway? i thought you're the one who has all the answers...since you're the one who has access to the airport~ :?

may nakaexperience ba sa inyo ng misapproach or crosswind landing here in DIA?

i had a missed approach exprience once here sa DIA. it was still during the a300 days sa old airport. we were on final approach when suddenly the pilot(my uncle) aborted landing because the runway was suddenly engulfed by a thick fog. i could feel the g forces as the a300 suddenly lurched upward with full power. we circled the DIA for about 30 mins before landing.

^^ i think no, crosswind landings only happen during a storm right? and as for misapproaches...i think its very rare for that to happen....especially with ILS, IMO~ (correct me on that... :D)

btw, why are you asking anyway? i thought you're the one who has all the answers...since you're the one who has access to the airport~ :?

hahah. just wonderin' kung may pics dito eh, kasi dati sa La verna pa kami nakatira.. tapos mejo makulimlim yung weather.. around 4pm yun, tapos biglang nag appear ang 747 out of nowhere, tapos iba ang direction niya, then bigla nag full throttle. ayun. hehehe. that was 2004.

i had a missed approach exprience once here sa DIA. it was still during the a300 days sa old airport. we were on final approach when suddenly the pilot(my uncle) aborted landing because the runway was suddenly engulfed by a thick fog. i could feel the g forces as the a300 suddenly lurched upward with full power. we circled the DIA for about 30 mins before landing.

ahhh i see. hehe. but i can discern na it's a rare event para magkamissed approach sa DIA. buti nalang jan ang location ng DIA. what if nasa Calinan or Buda ang location ng airport. okay OA. hahaha.

btw, what happened to that Mindanao Premier Airways? :?

Mindanao Premier Airways? never heard of that though.

ui noize, nagpopost ka ng videos ng planes na nagtotouch down sa crunchyroll? haha. may multiply ka?

^^ uh, no i don't got any vids on c-roll (dunno if i can still upload though)...and i don't have multiply...hehe~

edit : oh, pwede pa pala mag-upload...hehe..i'll do it later...if 05 ang gagamitin :D

Mindanao Premier Airways? never heard of that though.

ui noize, nagpopost ka ng videos ng planes na nagtotouch down sa crunchyroll? haha. may multiply ka?



in the works pa raw as far as @carrotz is concern.

Top 10 Busiest Air Routes in the Philippines

1. Manila(NAIA) - Caticlan - 266 flights/week

2. Manila(NAIA) - Cebu - 114 flights/week

3. Manila(NAIA) - Davao - 77 flights/week

4. Manila(NAIA)-Iloilo - 70 flights/week

5. Manila(NAIA) - CDO - 67 flights/week

6. Manila(NAIA) - Tacloban - 63 flights/week

7. Manila(NAIA) - Bacolod - 56 flights/week

8. Manila(NAIA) - Kalibo - 49 flights/week

Manila(NAIA) - P. Princesa - 49 flights/week

Manila(NAIA) - Tagbilaran - 49 flights/week

Manila(NAIA)- Busuanga - 49 flights/week

9. Manila(NAIA) - Zamboanga - 35 flights/week

10. Manila(NAIA) - Legazpi - 32 flights/week

Manila(NAIA) - San Jose - 21 flights/week

Cebu - Davao - 21 flights/week


Top 10 Airports in the Philippines in terms of Number of PAL Flights

1. Ninoy Aquino International Airport - 871 flights/week

2. Mactan-Cebu International Airport - 153 flights/week

3. Godofredo Ramos Airport (Caticlan) - 84 flights/week

4. Francisco Bangoy International Airport - 61 flights/week

5. Lumbia Airport (CD O) - 58 flights/week

6. Iloilo International Airport - 56 flights/week

7. Bacolod-Silay International Airport - 49 flights/week

8. Daniel Romualdes Airport (Tacloban) - 35 flights/week

9. Zamboanga International Airport - 31 flights/week

10.Puerto Princesa Airport - 25 flights/week

source: http://alvinrexlucero.wordpress.com/ (as of April 06, 2009.)

Top 10 Busiest Air Routes in the Philippines

1. Manila(NAIA) - Caticlan - 266 flights/week

2. Manila(NAIA) - Cebu - 114 flights/week

3. Manila(NAIA) - Davao - 77 flights/week

4. Manila(NAIA)-Iloilo - 70 flights/week

5. Manila(NAIA) - CDO - 67 flights/week

6. Manila(NAIA) - Tacloban - 63 flights/week

7. Manila(NAIA) - Bacolod - 56 flights/week

8. Manila(NAIA) - Kalibo - 49 flights/week

Manila(NAIA) - P. Princesa - 49 flights/week

Manila(NAIA) - Tagbilaran - 49 flights/week

Manila(NAIA)- Busuanga - 49 flights/week

9. Manila(NAIA) - Zamboanga - 35 flights/week

10. Manila(NAIA) - Legazpi - 32 flights/week

Manila(NAIA) - San Jose - 21 flights/week

Cebu - Davao - 21 flights/week


Top 10 Airports in the Philippines in terms of Number of PAL Flights

1. Ninoy Aquino International Airport - 871 flights/week

2. Mactan-Cebu International Airport - 153 flights/week

3. Godofredo Ramos Airport (Caticlan) - 84 flights/week

4. Francisco Bangoy International Airport - 61 flights/week

5. Lumbia Airport (CD O) - 58 flights/week

6. Iloilo International Airport - 56 flights/week

7. Bacolod-Silay International Airport - 49 flights/week

8. Daniel Romualdes Airport (Tacloban) - 35 flights/week

9. Zamboanga International Airport - 31 flights/week

10.Puerto Princesa Airport - 25 flights/week

source: http://alvinrexlucero.wordpress.com/ (as of April 06, 2009.)

thanks for the info @marlowe_cano.. :)

1. Ninoy Aquino International Airport - 3, 737 meters

2. Mactan-Cebu International Airport - 3, 300 meters

3. General Santos International Airport - 3, 277 meters

4. Diosdado Macapagal International Airport - 3, 200 meters

5. Francisco Bangoy International Airport - 3, 000 meters

6. Subic Bay Internatioanl Airport - 2, 728 meters

7. Zamboanga International Airport - 2, 611 meters

8. Puerto Princesa Airport - 2, 600 meters

9. Iloilo International Airport - 2, 500 meters

10. Lumbia Airport - 2, 454 meters

^^ Are you talking about runway length? :dunno:

^^ Are you talking about runway length? :dunno:

yeah...it is...dunno why he posted it... :D

yep, runway length yan. sorry i forgot to state the title of it :)

^^ i have to agree dun sa runway length. Gen Santos has the longest runway in Mindanao...

the move to reduce flights was a precautionary one. maybe its one way of shielding the airline from the recession. btw even the flights to and from cebu was reduced.

i have spoken to some people from the airline industry, the flights of 5j from dvo to sing and hk would have been a successful one. the only thing that hindered the people from biting the low fares that they offered was the schedule. the scheduling was awfully bad.

the travel agencies said that passengers from davao would rather pay the premium fare to reach their destination via a good scheduling rather pay a cheaper fare and reach their destinations very late into the night or very early in the morning. i believe them because i would do the same...:)

i see, ty

re cheap flights, it only means it's not cheap enough, if the flight to hk was cheaper than the flight to manila, i'm sure puno iyan even if it left at 2am and returned at4am. i still remember the jumbolilit flights of PR and they were cheap and full. They probably did not or could not price it cheap enough oh well.

^^ Are you talking about runway length? :dunno:

well for some guys I guess it's all about length! hehe

As Shrek said, could he be compensating for something !:lol:

i see, ty
^^
re cheap flights, it only means it's not cheap enough, if the flight to hk was cheaper than the flight to manila, i'm sure puno iyan even if it left at 2am and returned at4am. i still remember the jumbolilit flights of PR and they were cheap and full. They probably did not or could not price it cheap enough oh well.


The thing with Hongkong and Singapore night flight from Davao is the airport landing fee which is considerably lower at night particularly after 10pm-4am. That is more than 20% off from day flight. It was hoped that 5J would capitalized on it with lower fares with corresponding number of passengers. It turned out that loads were not enough to make it profitable. How would airline dropped it further when doing so does not guarantee a full flight? There is limit to costing and incidentally they have reached the bottom and decisions have to be made either to continue bleeding or start remedying the situation. 5J did to save its coffers.

I remember I friend who worked at Marco Polo and frequented Singapore via 5J saying that sometimes they almost have the plane for charter because there was quite a few of them probably less than 50 spread throughout the plane and he has the row all by himself which made him able to lie flat luxuriously in a low cost flight. Well, that could explain it!

taken earlier...hehe..i had to use imgshack this time...coz i love this shot...the lighting was good. :D

pls. PM me if you wanna use the pic...i won't refuse :)

A330-300

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Air Phil 732

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Silkair A320

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PAL and PAL (di na rare...parang focus city na kasi eh... :lol:)

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I remember I friend who worked at Marco Polo and frequented Singapore via 5J saying that sometimes they almost have the plane for charter because there was quite a few of them probably less than 50 spread throughout the plane and he has the row all by himself which made him able to lie flat luxuriously in a low cost flight. Well, that could explain it!


wow ang sarap naman ng feeling niyan lol..

well that explains why ang silk air, dadaan muna ng Cebu before going to singapore.

PAL and PAL (di na rare...parang focus city na kasi eh... :lol:)

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anong oras to? hehe. klaro pala ang alpha 3 and alpha 4 taxiway sa Mamay Road :)

wow ang sarap naman ng feeling niyan lol..

well that explains why ang silk air, dadaan muna ng Cebu before going to singapore.

meron din direct flights, Davao-Singapore

^^

That route used to have 7 flights a week, 4 are direct and 3 pass through Cebu.

anong oras to? hehe. klaro pala ang alpha 3 and alpha 4 taxiway sa Mamay Road :)

3:54 PM... :banana:

I remember I friend who worked at Marco Polo and frequented Singapore via 5J saying that sometimes they almost have the plane for charter because there was quite a few of them probably less than 50 spread throughout the plane and he has the row all by himself which made him able to lie flat luxuriously in a low cost flight. Well, that could explain it!


wow...like a private jet...sans entertainment and good food... :D :lol:

3:54 PM... :banana:

ahhhhh feel ko yung A330-300, delayed na PR 811, tpos yung A320, PR 817

pero EQV ang 817.. minsan nga A330-300 or A340-300 equipment nila.. :)

The thing with Hongkong and Singapore night flight from Davao is the airport landing fee which is considerably lower at night particularly after 10pm-4am. That is more than 20% off from day flight. It was hoped that 5J would capitalized on it with lower fares with corresponding number of passengers. It turned out that loads were not enough to make it profitable. How would airline dropped it further when doing so does not guarantee a full flight? There is limit to costing and incidentally they have reached the bottom and decisions have to be made either to continue bleeding or start remedying the situation. 5J did to save its coffers.

I remember I friend who worked at Marco Polo and frequented Singapore via 5J saying that sometimes they almost have the plane for charter because there was quite a few of them probably less than 50 spread throughout the plane and he has the row all by himself which made him able to lie flat luxuriously in a low cost flight. Well, that could explain it!

Actually what I was pointing out was that if the flight is cheap enough to these places , people will fill it. I understand there is a certain chicken egg predicament here and they will have to budget certain amounts of losing flights. I just look at the recent PR sale and people are buying trips to nowhere just because it's cheap. Same with the Air Asia flights to Kota, when i first used it , it was on a lark because it was so cheap (cheaper than a flight to davao) and it was only half filled. I understand that now it's got good load factor and the price is higher. Of course all this is subject to their marketing strategy but in general I think it works.

^^
From the way things are, I suppose, more passengers are inclined to travel at day from Davao than at night because most are willing to pay a premium fare just to be in Singapore while the sun is still up. Had it been otherwise, 5J could have been successful. Well, Value is and 6 years is a long time.

Also, if you notice, Air Asia, Tiger, Jetstar and Silk Air fly to the Philippines at daytime while Cebu Pacific fly at night. If I was made to choose, I will gladly select the former.

^^ Valuair flies to the Philippines? I thought they only serve Indonesia from Singapore.

^^
Sorry. I was referring to Silk Air. My apologies.

^^

actually mas lugi pagmagbyahe during night. pagdating sg, doble ang bayad sa taxi sa pag gabi. magcheck in ka sa hotel for 1 day pero half day lang ang magamit mo. the time exploring sg will be shortened.

^^ That's why 5J has packages for their SG trip...but yeah, lugi talaga sabi ng most ng mga nakaka-meet ko na napa-SG via 5J.

^^ bitin ang trip ko last time. kung sakaling babalik ako ng singapore, i'll make sure na silkair ang sasakyan ko.

^^

actually mas lugi pagmagbyahe during night. pagdating sg, doble ang bayad sa taxi sa pag gabi. magcheck in ka sa hotel for 1 day pero half day lang ang magamit mo. the time exploring sg will be shortened.


hassle sab sa magsundo kay wala nay MRT pag abot sa 5J..dako baya surcharge sa taxi pagawas sa Changi

;35915918']hassle sab sa magsundo kay wala nay MRT pag abot sa 5J..dako baya surcharge sa taxi pagawas sa Changi

sige ha. sundua mi puhon pag mag silkair mi kay wala na among friend nga mosundo tua na sa australia. salamat daan. :lol:

ganahan kaayo ko magsakaysakay sa smrt kay neat kaayo. isa lang akong reklamo, mga bahog ilok mga tao.

Immune na man ko sa baho :lol: Naanad na sab ko na dili mag give up ug seat maski sa chicks or sa tigulang (if medyo baskog pa) :lol: kay ana man dire, walay gentleman2x :lol:

mas ganahan ko sa SBS (purple line) kay mas bag-o hehe feeling nako third world kaayo ang green ug red line (SMRT)

mga chicks diha maski sexy mura mag luy-a ang mga tiil.

aw duha diay na ka kompanya. wala kaayo nako napansin. unsa gani ang mga ruta sa sbs?

katong paadto sa vivocity ug muagi sa clarke quay

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Cebu Pacific opens new seat sale for 2 routes (http://www.tribune.net.ph/business/20090429bus9.html)

04/29/2009

Budget airline Cebu Pacific (CEB) is flying a direct thrice-weekly service from Davao to Cagayan de Oro starting May 14, 2009. The new route will be launched with a one-way “Go Lite” promo fare of P499.

A two-day seat sale starts today and is valid for travel from June 1 to Aug. 31, 2009. Promo fare is non-refundable.

CEB will be using its 72-seater ATR aircraft for the route. The flight departs from Davao every Tuesday, Thursday, and Saturday at 6 p.m. and arrives in Cagayan de Oro at 6:50 p.m. The return flight leaves Cagayan de Oro at 7:10 p.m. and arrives in Davao at 8 p.m.

“The opening of our direct Davao-Cagayan de Oro service will provide a faster, more convenient and affordable travel option for travelers between Northern and Southern Mindanao. This will spur more activities within Mindanao as travel from Davao to Cagayan de Oro is cut to an hour from a usual 10-hour road trip,” said Candice Iyog, CEB vice president for marketing and distribution.

“This is continuing proof of our commitment to make air travel accessible to every Juan and support to the government’s agenda of developing Mindanao as a vibrant destination,” she said.

CEB is the largest airline operating in Davao and Cagayan de Oro, offering the most number of routes and flights in the region. The airline flies from Davao to Cagayan de Oro, Cebu, Iloilo, Manila and Zamboanga. It also flies from Cagayan de Oro to Cebu and Manila.

After the seat sale, the lowest year-round ‘Go Lite’ fare from Davao to Cagayan de Oro starts from P688.

For bookings, passengers may log on to www.cebupacificair.com or call the reservations hotline at 702-0888 (Manila) / 230-8888 (Cebu), or visit their nearest travel agent.

Now on its 14th year, CEB has the youngest aircraft fleet in the Philippines. It flies to 15 international cities across Asia and 31 domestic destinations.

:cheers::cheers:

;35916540']katong paadto sa vivocity ug muagi sa clarke quay

ahh... nakasakay ko ana. katong padulong mi sentosa og katong nagkita ta sa clarke quay. wala kaayo nako nakita ang difference kay the same lang man gud ang kahinlo nila. usually man gud diri sa ato basta daan, hugaw pud. diha maski daan almost pareho lang sa bag-o tan-awon.

katong pauli namo davao, kaadlawon, nag-ulan, nya wala mi naggamit og airbridge. very good kaayo ang ceb. makatagam.

nag unsa mo? gipapayong lang?

nanagan. paggawas namo eroplano hinay pa, taligsik pa. nya nagapakusog hangtud pirte kakusog sa ulan.

isa pud kasuyaan, late last year akong mga officemate nagbook pud pa-singapore. mga 6 yata sila. direct flight ilang gipabook sa ako. og sa dihang hapit na sila moadto, amo gicheck ang status sa ilang flight, kalit nagchange ang sked, via manila sila. dapat weekend lang sila. naextend ilang byahe. absent silang tanan for almost 2 days.

so, no wonder daghang natagam mga taga-dabaw.

nanagan. paggawas namo eroplano hinay pa, taligsik pa. nya nagapakusog hangtud pirte kakusog sa ulan.

isa pud kasuyaan, late last year akong mga officemate nagbook pud pa-singapore. mga 6 yata sila. direct flight ilang gipabook sa ako. og sa dihang hapit na sila moadto, amo gicheck ang status sa ilang flight, kalit nagchange ang sked, via manila sila. dapat weekend lang sila. naextend ilang byahe. absent silang tanan for almost 2 days.

so, no wonder daghang natagam mga taga-dabaw.

korek ka talaga jan. is na ko sa gitagam. cebu pathetic jud!:ohno:

korek ka talaga jan. is na ko sa gitagam. cebu pathetic jud!:ohno:



What a coinage...Cebu Pathetic...i'm in stitches- di na gyud ko sakay ug CEB ani. :lol:

What a coinage...Cebu Pathetic...i'm in stitches- di na gyud ko sakay ug CEB ani. :lol:

hehehehe.. good morning bro. aga mo ah.. or is it late na there...its 410am here already and i am preparing for my flight to cebu....ironically i am taking cebu pathetic....:lol:

^^

Good morning too, Capo. Well, it's 1:12 PM here. Got home early from work.

Now, I"m falling off my seat with you taking CEB again. Enjoy your flight anyways! :cheers:

^^

Good morning too, Capo. Well, it's 1:12 PM here. Got home early from work.

Now, I"m falling off my seat with you taking CEB again. Enjoy your flight anyways! :cheers:

hehehehe.. tnx:lol:

^^

De nada! :)

hehehehe.. good morning bro. aga mo ah.. or is it late na there...its 410am here already and i am preparing for my flight to cebu....ironically i am taking cebu pathetic....:lol:

buti pa mag 2P ka na lang...they serve Cebu too right? :lol:

may DVO-MNL pa ba na Air Philippines? Parang wala na ba? haha. parang Dvo-Ceb lang nakikita ka eh. hahaha

may DVO-MNL pa ba na Air Philippines? Parang wala na ba? haha. parang Dvo-Ceb lang nakikita ka eh. hahaha

wla na siguro since competition is really fierce with PR, 5J and Z2 with their newer aircraft compared to vintage 732s...

^^ They still have. CEB-ILO and CEB-DVO are still served by 2P even if PR was to take over these routes through PAL Express. My guess is that these routes can use the additional capacity.

btw.. can anyone give me the links of the previous threads of DVO Intl Airport? or at least yung compiled threads... thanks

Do you really have to talk to your local dialect? Pano na kaming di nakakaintindi ng dialect nyo?

I just shared my bad experience with cebu pacific, davao to singapore flight. Interesado ka pala malaman mga pinagsasabi namin. From now on I'll post in English or Tagalog. Sorry for the inconvenience.

btw.. can anyone give me the links of the previous threads of DVO Intl Airport? or at least yung compiled threads... thanks

Click here (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=462467)! :colgate:

Whoever amongst the MODS sanitized this thread up, thanks!

RP-C3244

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contrails

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nanagan. paggawas namo eroplano hinay pa, taligsik pa. nya nagapakusog hangtud pirte kakusog sa ulan.

isa pud kasuyaan, late last year akong mga officemate nagbook pud pa-singapore. mga 6 yata sila. direct flight ilang gipabook sa ako. og sa dihang hapit na sila moadto, amo gicheck ang status sa ilang flight, kalit nagchange ang sked, via manila sila. dapat weekend lang sila. naextend ilang byahe. absent silang tanan for almost 2 days.

so, no wonder daghang natagam mga taga-dabaw.

badtrip noh?! grrr... kung di lang talaga mahal ang silk air!

korek ka talaga jan. is na ko sa gitagam. cebu pathetic jud!:ohno:

What a coinage...Cebu Pathetic...i'm in stitches- di na gyud ko sakay ug CEB ani. :lol:

hehehehe.. good morning bro. aga mo ah.. or is it late na there...its 410am here already and i am preparing for my flight to cebu....ironically i am taking cebu pathetic....:lol:

btw, pls. edit those "Cebu Pathetic" things...its like youre referring to something else aside from the airline...thank you.

i apologize for those who are offended.

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any updates of this airport? hahaha.

^^ none except DVO-CGY flights by 5J :D

hahah...what do you guys feel about the introduction of that flight?

@ noize, thanks for sharing those pics. we wish you'd get bored more often. :lol:

hahah...what do you guys feel about the introduction of that flight?

@ noize, thanks for sharing those pics. we wish you'd get bored more often. :lol:

its nice tha cebu pathetic (5j) intoduced that flight to cdo. but the scheduled times are very pathetic. well all know that its quite dangerous to land in cdo in the evening and when there are thick clouds around the airport. oh well...its better than nothing at all.

hahah...what do you guys feel about the introduction of that flight?

@ noize, thanks for sharing those pics. we wish you'd get bored more often. :lol:

yeah...bored pa rin ako....i'll keep going 'til an A380 would come by :lol:

^^ At least you got variety for the planes nowadays.

^^ all planes i see are the same except for the regs :lol: ...cousin ko nga nakakita ng charter plane (Jeju Air)...and the only "rare" one i saw was a small twin-prop with "ZK" reg...

anyway...i have a story that happened earlier...

goes like this : someone flew a kite near our spot (runway 05) and the guard can't seem to get their attention (gi-whistle lang niya...mahina rin sya mag-whistle :lol:)...so i was the one who instead went to the ones that were flying the kite (a man and his daughter) and asked them na "bawal po mag-lipad ng kite dito...restricted airspace kasi" so they left....the guard didn't even thank me :lol: although i feel like part of the authority~ :D

^^ none except DVO-CGY flights by 5J :D

yeah, i already knew that.. the flight schedule is somehow scary.. most especially kung mag fifinal approach sa CDO.. correct me if i'm wrong, but i don't think may ILS ang CDO... but the thing is, Lumbia Airport is situated 600++ feet above sea level, on a hilly parts of CDO and it's susceptible with zero visibility.

yeah, i already knew that.. the flight schedule is somehow scary.. most especially kung mag fifinal approach sa CDO.. correct me if i'm wrong, but i don't think may ILS ang CDO... but the thing is, Lumbia Airport is situated 600++ feet above sea level, on a hilly parts of CDO and it's susceptible with zero visibility.

kakatakot talaga ang approach ng lumbia. i think they have ils but its not operational. i really dont know why cebu pathetic made that schedule in the first place. sana ginawa nalang nila ng hapon.

starting may 16, 2 flights a day na ang Z2 (zest air).

1st flight

mnl to dvo 405 am
dvo to mnl 640 am

2nd flight

mnl to dvo 715 pm
dvo to mnl 950 pm

this means that they have a good load factor and is bullish of the passenger traffic to and from davao.:banana:

kakatakot talaga ang approach ng lumbia. i think they have ils but its not operational. i really dont know why cebu pathetic made that schedule in the first place. sana ginawa nalang nila ng hapon.

Its operational already. Newly repaired. Otherwise 5j won't risk making a landing at night do they? By the way its a reintroduction of flight. Its used to be 3x wk DC-9 service until it was suspended when Rural introduced direct aircon buda route. Kulang pa kasi sila ng eroplano. Eventually they will move it on daytime. I think the ATR will fly from Cebu to Zamboanga to Davao to Cagayan and Iloilo vv in the 4-3 alternate soon.

Personally, I would rather opt to ride a bus via buda direct. Even if its 5 hours travel but you end in Agora Terminal in Lapasan rather than flying an hour and drive your way for another hour all the way down on heavy traffic from Lumbia unless of course you happen to live nearby at Xavier Estate or Pueblo de Oro.

A320 ang aircraft on both flights no? wow. asenso

Its operational already. Newly repaired. Otherwise 5j won't risk making a landing at night do they? By the way its a reintroduction of flight. Its used to be 3x wk DC-9 service until it was suspended when Rural introduced direct aircon buda route. Kulang pa kasi sila ng eroplano. Eventually they will move it on daytime. I think the ATR will fly from Cebu to Zamboanga to Davao to Cagayan and Iloilo vv in the 4-3 alternate soon.

On both ends ng runway ba? I see. I thought wala.. good thing.

Pero likewise, ako rin, mas gusto ko pa rin ang land trip.. kasi maganda ang view papunta sa CDO :))

^^ yeah unless may daytime sched na ang 5j... wla akong makita sa nighttime eh...puro lights lang :lol:

starting may 16, 2 flights a day na ang Z2 (zest air).

1st flight

mnl to dvo 405 am
dvo to mnl 640 am

2nd flight

mnl to dvo 715 pm
dvo to mnl 950 pm

this means that they have a good load factor and is bullish of the passenger traffic to and from davao.:banana:

i hope they would plan on DVO-CEB too...

On both ends ng runway ba? I see. I thought wala.. good thing.


Nope,just runway 19.

thanks! :)

dvo-cgy is just 50 minutes plane ride pala....

dvo-cgy is just 50 minutes plane ride pala....

yeah. but the total flight time will only be around 30 mins.:)

this has got to be the worst landing i have ever experienced riding in 5J...i forgot the name for the captain and the co pilot..

flight 5J 595 davao to cebu, april 30, 2009.

the runway was wet from a previous downpour. i understand a firm landing in this conditions. but man, the pilot landed the plane with the loudest and baddest thump i have ever experienced riding in 5J. i could see the runway was wet. i could feel that we were floating above the runway too long. i was expecting a smooth landing. then suddenly, bang!!!. people started to scream, i could feel myself going up because my seat belt tightened a bit. people started saying...ano ba ito..galit ba ang piloto sa atin? they started to name the pilot as captain bagsak.


coming to the best landing i have ever experinced riding in 5J... i again forgot the name of the captain and co pilot( i guess this is a severe case of sm....short memory...hahahahaha)

flight 5J 596 cebu to davao, may 4, 2009.

conditions were very dry. we did not float very long. i could see the piano keys from the window( i could only surmise the plane was quite low at this point). landed right at the threshold(i could see the lights marking the threshold of the runway). silky smooth landing, just like PAL (sorry ha. no other point of comparison..hehehehe) the best landing i have ever experienced.

i guess PR should reintroduce the cebu-davao-cebu route. i think 5J is racking it in in this sector. there are 3 daily flights with an additional flight every M/T/W/F/SA.

last week i went to cebu april 30. i went home yesterday may 4. grabe the flight was full....

flight 5J 596 cebu to davao, may 4, 2009.

conditions were very dry. we did not float very long. i could see the piano keys from the window( i could only surmise the plane was quite low at this point). landed right at the threshold(i could see the lights marking the threshold of the runway). silky smooth landing, just like PAL (sorry ha. no other point of comparison..hehehehe) the best landing i have ever experienced.

sa davao ito na runway? its r-23 right? parang mas wlang obstruction doon kaysa r-05...

sa davao ito na runway? its r-23 right? parang mas wlang obstruction doon kaysa r-05...

yup 23. it really doesnt matter if the plane is landing at 23 or at 05. i have had numerous landings at 05 that was silky smooth on a pal 330/340/744. i was surprised lang at 5J and the smooth landing it did. hahahahaha...:lol:

yup 23. it really doesnt matter if the plane is landing at 23 or at 05. i have had numerous landings at 05 that was silky smooth on a pal 330/340/744. i was surprised lang at 5J and the smooth landing it did. hahahahaha...:lol:

i was referring to the part where the plane landed at the threshold...that part really made me "what the hell?"...buti runway 23...if it was 05...you might get that "kai tak" impression :nuts:

mas scary ang landing ng 5j Looooool kesa PR

^^ how about 2P?

this morning : runway 05

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What a coinage...Cebu Pathetic...i'm in stitches- di na gyud ko sakay ug CEB ani. :lol:

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
im just wondering why CEB dont accept overseas travellers' credit cards?

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
im just wondering why CEB dont accept overseas travellers' credit cards?

only they can answer that.:lol:

^^
Because the credit card company has the right to refuse payment to the merchant like 5J if bookings are made on unauthorized use. That usually take some time to be verified and when they finally discover credit card fraud the bank can demand the return of the money which left Cebu Pacific to run after its passenger.

^^
Because the credit card company has the right to refuse payment to the merchant like 5J if bookings are made on unauthorized use. That usually take some time to be verified and when they finally discover credit card fraud the bank can demand the return of the money which left Cebu Pacific to run after its passenger.

yeah, and how they gonna accept payments from overseas? it would be hard.

only they can answer that.:lol:

wala silang tiwala sa credit cards sa labas lalo na ngayon na nagbabagsakan ang malalaking banko sa tate at europa....baka yung sa bombay tanggapin pa nila....:lol:

Zest Air launches
2nd Davao flight
Mindanao Daily Mirror
May 11, 2009

Zest Air, Asia’s refreshing airline, launches a second flight to Davao in the evening effective May l6, 2009 utilizing the spacious, wideseat l62-seater Airbus 320. Among the advantages and benefits of using Zest Air to and from Davao include an all year-round, ALL-IN commuter fare of P l,788, accessible departure terminal conveniently located at the Manila Domestic Airport, Pasay City, refreshing drinks served free during the flight, newspapers and ZEST Inflight Magazine to read.

The regular schedule of the Manila-Davao and vice versa flight leaves Manila at 4:05 a.m. and arrives Davao at 5:50 a.m., leaves Davao at 6:40 p.m and arrives Manila at 8:25 p.m. The additional flight to Davao by May 16, 2009 leaves Manila at 7:15 p.m. and arrives Davao at 9:00 p.m., leaves Davao at 9:50 p.m; and arrives Manila at 11:35 p.m..

Other Zest Air commuter routes include: Cebu, Iloilo, Legaspi, Marinduque, Naga, San Jose Mindoro (with an ALL-IN fare of only P488); Bacolod, Calbayog, Catarman, Kalibo, Taclo-ban and Virac (with an ALL-IN fare of P 788).

Zestair also flies to leisure destinations such as: Boracay, Tagbilaran and Puerto Princesa (fare is P788) and Busuanga (P488). Travel period is ongoing until December 3l. Soon, Zestair will be adding more flights and will include international flights such as Korea, China, Japan, Hongkong and Macau. Call 855-3333 or visit your travel agent.

Home > Breaking News > Singapore > Story
May 8, 2009
Expanded air pact
By Karamjit Kaur, Aviation Correspondent

AIR links between Singapore and the Philippines have been expanded to allow for more flights between the two countries.

For travellers, this should result in more choices and hopefully, lower fares.

Under the new agreement which was inked following two days of air talks, Singapore carriers will be able to fly an additional 16 weekly Airbus 320 services to and from Manila.

The same entitlements have been accorded to Philippine carriers.

In addition, Singapore and Philippine carriers will also have greater access to and from other city points in the Philippines, such as Cebu, Davao and Clark.

Currently, airlines on both sides together operate more than 100 weekly services between the two countries - maximising the number of flights allowed under the previous air deal which was signed in August 2001.

Traffic between the Philippines and Singapore has grown by an average of 17 per cent annually since 2004.

Despite the global economic and traffic downturn, traffic grew last year by 12 per cent.

MOT said: 'This is no mean feat considering the decline of 2.2 per cent in international passenger traffic across the Asia-Pacific region.'

Its deputy-secretary (international) Lee Yuen Hee, who led the Singapore team in the negotiations said: 'The expanded agreement between Singapore and the Philippines demonstrates the commitment of both countries to develop closer aviation ties.

'The increased air services would further promote people-to-people ties, boost tourism and enhance bilateral economic relations.'

Strait Times (http://www.straitstimes.com/Breaking%2BNews/Singapore/Story/STIStory_374001.html)

^^ The expanded Philippines-Singapore air agreement allots 5,000 seats for CEB-SIN and DVO-SIN. Hopefully Philippine carriers will be able to ably exploit the agreement for their benefit, with perfect timing (ehem...Cebu Pacific) put into consideration. :D

mas dumami ang domestic flights this year, at least na compensate ang pagbaba ng flight freq ng intl flights here in DIA :)

^^ makes me happy for Silkair as the only international carrier here...sana meron pa...heheheh... :)

oo nga naman, para may competition. oooh. feel ko by the end of the year, almost 2million pax na ang maseserve ng DIA :)

^^ hopefully not a low-cost carrier...or maybe i'll consider...wag lang 5j :D

or would you consider Air Asia? parang LCC din iyan ng Indonesia..

you know what? my ninang rode Air Asia.. Jakarta-Singapore.. A320 ata.. then i think 5 minutes after departure.. nagkaengine trouble.. bale isang engine nalang ata gumagana, eh bumalik sila sa Jakarta.. worse.. di sila binigyan ng bagong equipment.. plus di pa sila nirefund ng Air Asia.

scary.

^^ You're referring to Indonesia AirAsia. AirAsia proper is a Malaysian airline, and Tony Fernandes has already indicated that he is interested in serving Cebu, Davao and Zamboanga (I think either out of KL or KK). AK though is a very good LCC.

^^ any other LCC based in SIN? what about Tiger Airways?

Rare visitor...N-reg Pilatus PC-12/45

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^^ Tiger Airways, Valuair and Jetstar Asia Airways operate out of SIN.

oh private plane? hahaha. miss ko na tuloy ang 747-400.

^^ Tiger Airways, Valuair and Jetstar Asia Airways operate out of SIN.

so maybe either those three and our very own 5J and Z2 might take advantage to that air pact?

so maybe either those three and our very own 5J and Z2 might take advantage to that air pact?

dont bet on 5J...they wont reopen that route to singapore from davao anymore.

^^ oh yeah...forgot about that...in fact, good riddance :lol:

Sayang diba.. pero pangit lang talaga ang schedule ng 5J.. eh sana naman ginawa nalang nilang afternoon flight like Silk Air.. eh mapipilitang ipamura ng konti ng tickets ng Silk Air. but likewise, that's idealistic


IMO lang,. :)

Just arrived in Davao tonight via a delayed PR 813 A330 service. Sobrang tahimik ng DIA when we arrived. No other plane was in the tarmac.Anyways observation ko sa CR di na masyadong maintained.At medyo madilim lightings.

^^ contrary to my arrival last month...the toilets were clean (nag p00 pa nga ako dyan eh...sakit chan :lol:) and there were toilet papers available (thank goodness)...

Just arrived in Davao tonight via a delayed PR 813 A330 service. Sobrang tahimik ng DIA when we arrived. No other plane was in the tarmac.Anyways observation ko sa CR di na masyadong maintained.At medyo madilim lightings.

yeah i guess they are in cost saving mode. that is what you get when central caap is managing the airport. all the money that is being earned/collected at the dia goes to central caap.:ohno:

infact dia has to beg caap for the funds used to maintain the airport. i guess its time to lobby for a davao international airport authority.:ohno:

Just arrived in Davao tonight via a delayed PR 813 A330 service. Sobrang tahimik ng DIA when we arrived. No other plane was in the tarmac.Anyways observation ko sa CR di na masyadong maintained.At medyo madilim lightings.

really? what time ang arrival ng delayed PR 813??

kasi last departure that leaves davao is philippine airlines and zest air.. 9:50 pm.

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Diri nko agto!
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The Durian monument
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Welcome to Davao!
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Davao for me is so far one of the best manage airport in the country with its modern amenities. I also like the fact that the architectural design is so symbolic esp. those triangular shapes. The Smart ads banner makes the airside part colorful and delightful to look at... esp. those places and things in Davao.

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iniba na pala ng smart ang ad nila sa tarmac cool!maganda rin yung dati ehtnic-inspired.

ahh! yung parang kadayawan-ish na style? hahaha

anong nangyari maiden flight nang ceb pacific dvo to cgy? marami bang sumakay? mahal kasi pag regular fare na..thanks

Zest Air bares year-round fiesta fares
Mindanao Daily Mirror
May 16, 2009

Zest Air, Asia’s refreshing airlines, bares its all-in, all year-round fiesta fares – P488 to Busuanga, Cebu, Iloilo, Legaspi, Marinduque, Naga, San Jose (Mindoro) or vice versa; P788 to Bacolod, Calbayog, Catarman, Caticlan, Kalibo, Tacloban, Tagbilaran, Puerto Princesa and Virac or vice versa; P1,788 to Davao or vice versa. Sale and travel period are on-going until December 31, 2009.

Zest Air also invites the public to take a look at its fiesta menu – a month-long fiesta in Tagbilaran in May; a month-long Magayon festival in Albay in May; Baragatan festival on June 17-23 in Puerto Princesa, Palawan; Pintados festival on June 29 in Tacloban, Leyte; a month-long Sandugo festival in July in Tagbilaran City, Bohol; Kadayawan festival in Davao City on August 19-23; Sarakiki festival in Calbayog, Samar on September 1-8; Penafrancia festival in Naga City on September 17; Ibalong festival in Legaspi on October 6-12; Maskara festival in Bacolod and October 19 and Catan-dugan festival in Virac, Catanduanes on October 22-24. Other festivals and fiestas may not be included in the Zest Air fiesta menu list but for as long as Zest Air operates in any of these sectors, passengers may avail of the special rates for their respective fiesta celebration.

Zest Air passengers are treated to refreshing drinks on long flights and newspapers to read in and enjoy spacious legroom and wide seats. ZestAir’s accessible departure terminal is conveniently located at the Manila Domestic Airport in Pasay City.

Call 855-3333 or visit your favorite travel agent.

daming banderitas.....ng smart nasira ang ganda ng airport nyo dyan....sobra namang commercialismo yan....

^^

I don't think so. The stick on ads add glitter to the rather bare and dull facade of the terminal buildings. I guess SMART bought the right to brandish it's logo in there and hopefully the proceeds would go to the upkeep of said facility.

daming banderitas.....ng smart nasira ang ganda ng airport nyo dyan....sobra namang commercialismo yan....

i think binabayaran ang airport mgt nyang mga advertisers...:)

reminds me of the monorails in KL ..bawat station iba iba ang "sponsor" then halos tadtad ng ads ang mga station and trains

mas nice pa gani na kesa kung boring na plain white lang ang terminal.

mas nice pa gani na kesa kung boring na plain white lang ang terminal.

i agree pleasing to the eye walang clutter

ang pangit talaga ang cebu pacific..iilang flights palang nang dvo-cgy may cancellation na agad....

^^ ano yung dahilan? baka konti lang pasahero kaya nag-cancel :nuts:

ang pangit talaga ang cebu pacific..iilang flights palang nang dvo-cgy may cancellation na agad....

bakit daw? weather conditions? or what?

ang pangit talaga ang cebu pacific..iilang flights palang nang dvo-cgy may cancellation na agad....

^^ ano yung dahilan? baka konti lang pasahero kaya nag-cancel :nuts:

bakit daw? weather conditions? or what?

hahahaha..isa lang ang masabi ko jan.....its VERY cebu pathetic...:ohno:...why am i not surprised?

kaya some words of wisdom....:yes:

if you are in a rush, never ride cebu pathetic.:ohno:.

come to think of it, even though you are not in a rush, dont ride cebu pathetic.:ohno:

chances are the flight will be VERY delayed or WILL be can canceled. :nuts:

ika nga...you get what you pay for...:lol:...

5J aka cebu pathetic:banned:

hahahaha..isa lang ang masabi ko jan.....its VERY cebu pathetic...:ohno:...why am i not surprised?

kaya some words of wisdom....:yes:

if you are in a rush, never ride cebu pathetic.:ohno:.

come to think of it, even though you are not in a rush, dont ride cebu pathetic.:ohno:

chances are the flight will be VERY delayed or WILL be can canceled. :nuts:

ika nga...you get what you pay for...:lol:...

5J aka cebu pathetic:banned:

cge boss...mag 2P and PR na lang ako...pwede paki-suggest sa kanila about that DVO-CGY route? :D

cge boss...mag 2P and PR na lang ako...pwede paki-suggest sa kanila about that DVO-CGY route? :D

i already told my uncle that pr should ply the dvo-ceb again and the dvo-cgy using palex. i think they are studying the possibility of reintroducing the flights again.

cguro na-cancel ang flight g 5J -- DVO-CDO 'coz of weather. nanigurado jud kay mejo risky baya ang Lumbia Airport. scary

^^ speaking of 2P, nag-start na ang phase-out sa 732? i noticed that 2P uses the same plane to RPMD daily (RP-C8022)...

cguro na-cancel ang flight g 5J -- DVO-CDO 'coz of weather. nanigurado jud kay mejo risky baya ang Lumbia Airport. scary

^^

I don't think so. The stick on ads add glitter to the rather bare and dull facade of the terminal buildings. I guess SMART bought the right to brandish it's logo in there and hopefully the proceeds would go to the upkeep of said facility.

The smart ads brings color to DVO apt... And its just fine because it showcase how beautiful DVO is... I bet smart is paying so much w/ the ads... They also had ads in T2 and T3 jetways.

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^^ Oooh...A319 in planform. :D

ang pangit talaga ang cebu pacific..iilang flights palang nang dvo-cgy may cancellation na agad....

I guess before giving out negative comments against Cebu Pacific, better know the real reason behind the cancellation.. The cancellation of the DVO-CGY and some CEB-CGY flights are due to some problems with the runway lights of Cagayan Airport.

Since the runway lights are not functioning, Cebu Pacific cannot push through with the flights because the plane can't land in a runway with no working runway lights after sunset.

Cebu Pacific have constantly been upgrading some of the Cebu - Cagayan flights from ATR to Airbus 319. I guess there will be some adjustment with the schedule of ATR flights from Cebu to resume the flights. I guess this time the flights will be operated before sunset...

:bash::bash:

I guess before giving out negative comments against Cebu Pacific, better know the real reason behind the cancellation.. The cancellation of the DVO-CGY and some CEB-CGY flights are due to some problems with the runway lights of Cagayan Airport.

Since the runway lights are not functioning, Cebu Pacific cannot push through with the flights because the plane can't land in a runway with no working runway lights after sunset.

Cebu Pacific have constantly been upgrading some of the Cebu - Cagayan flights from ATR to Airbus 319. I guess there will be some adjustment with the schedule of ATR flights from Cebu to resume the flights. I guess this time the flights will be operated before sunset...

:bash::bash:

i am not talking about the dvo-cdo flight alone. i was talking about cebu pathetic in general.:lol:.....

now if i like to dish out negative comments about CEBU PATHETIC, nobody can stop me. i can and will do it anytime i like to. i am not rying to influence anybody here. kunbg may maniwala sa akin, ok lang. kung wala ok lang din....hahahahahahahahaha

I guess before giving out negative comments against Cebu Pacific, better know the real reason behind the cancellation.. The cancellation of the DVO-CGY and some CEB-CGY flights are due to some problems with the runway lights of Cagayan Airport.

Since the runway lights are not functioning, Cebu Pacific cannot push through with the flights because the plane can't land in a runway with no working runway lights after sunset.

Cebu Pacific have constantly been upgrading some of the Cebu - Cagayan flights from ATR to Airbus 319. I guess there will be some adjustment with the schedule of ATR flights from Cebu to resume the flights. I guess this time the flights will be operated before sunset...

:bash::bash:

sched lagi ang problem...bakit hindi sa morning/afternoon...mga 11am oh, bakante ata ang slot...kung ayaw nyo ma-cancel ang flight...why not serve the route in daylight in the first place...i'm not against ceb pac...gusto ko lang ma-improve sila in any ways possible~

The smart ads brings color to DVO apt... And its just fine because it showcase how beautiful DVO is... I bet smart is paying so much w/ the ads... They also had ads in T2 and T3 jetways.


Agree!

At least Cebu Pacific did reactivated the long requested Southern Mindanao-Western Visayas air link...that hasn't been existing for years and yet a lot of Ilonggos have to endure stop-overs and delays because of no direct flight.

I hope AirPhil or PAL would follow suit.

meron positive and negative lahat ng airlines...for me PAL ok kasi reliable flights nila, although I've had my share of delayed flights with PAL din...regarding Cebu Pacific, ok din sya kasi they cater routes PAL has ignored, also they made flying more affordable. nung PAL pa lang ang airlines, they dictated prices and sobrang mahal ng mga flights nila before, pero ngayon affordable na...I remember, ang prices nila around 10-12 years ago is around the same price pa din ngayon...that's what competition brings.
sana Cebu Pacific would improve their service. for me, ok lang kahit walang food (PAL doesn't provide good food din naman sa fiesta class, so for me pareho lang) basta I depart and arrive on time..what Cebu Pacific needs to improve is yung reliability ng flights nila...right now kasi, PAL is reliable and better ang flying experience overall.

I guess before giving out negative comments against Cebu Pacific, better know the real reason behind the cancellation.. The cancellation of the DVO-CGY and some CEB-CGY flights are due to some problems with the runway lights of Cagayan Airport.

Since the runway lights are not functioning, Cebu Pacific cannot push through with the flights because the plane can't land in a runway with no working runway lights after sunset.

Cebu Pacific have constantly been upgrading some of the Cebu - Cagayan flights from ATR to Airbus 319. I guess there will be some adjustment with the schedule of ATR flights from Cebu to resume the flights. I guess this time the flights will be operated before sunset...

:bash::bash:

i know..in general my experience with cebu pac is not that good..talagang pangit ang kanilang service....thats my opinion..thanks...:)

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@Noize, pwede favor hehe... it would be great if you can take pictures of the old terminal hehe... and if kung pwede makita rin ang interiors hehe salamat :)

@Noize, pwede favor hehe... it would be great if you can take pictures of the old terminal hehe... and if kung pwede makita rin ang interiors hehe salamat :)

Done...wla lang interior

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Silk Air

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meron positive and negative lahat ng airlines...for me PAL ok kasi reliable flights nila, although I've had my share of delayed flights with PAL din...regarding Cebu Pacific, ok din sya kasi they cater routes PAL has ignored, also they made flying more affordable. nung PAL pa lang ang airlines, they dictated prices and sobrang mahal ng mga flights nila before, pero ngayon affordable na...I remember, ang prices nila around 10-12 years ago is around the same price pa din ngayon...that's what competition brings.
sana Cebu Pacific would improve their service. for me, ok lang kahit walang food (PAL doesn't provide good food din naman sa fiesta class, so for me pareho lang) basta I depart and arrive on time..what Cebu Pacific needs to improve is yung reliability ng flights nila...right now kasi, PAL is reliable and better ang flying experience overall.

yes pal has also delayed flights. come to think of it, all airlines have delayed flights. but the difference between PAL and CEBU PATHETIC is that when PAL flights are delayed or cancelled, they take care of their passengers and feed them. If CEBU PATHETIC flights get delayed or cancelled, they just let the passengers fend for themselves. No help whatsoever from CEBU PATHETIC. tsk tsk tsk.....:ohno:

@Noize... salamat haha ang bilis naman....

sana the government will really do something with the old terminal.....

yes pal has also delayed flights. come to think of it, all airlines have delayed flights. but the difference between PAL and CEBU PATHETIC is that when PAL flights are delayed or cancelled, they take care of their passengers and feed them. If CEBU PATHETIC flights get delayed or cancelled, they just let the passengers fend for themselves. No help whatsoever from CEBU PATHETIC. tsk tsk tsk.....:ohno:

:rofl:

yes pal has also delayed flights. come to think of it, all airlines have delayed flights. but the difference between PAL and CEBU PATHETIC is that when PAL flights are delayed or cancelled, they take care of their passengers and feed them. If CEBU PATHETIC flights get delayed or cancelled, they just let the passengers fend for themselves. No help whatsoever from CEBU PATHETIC. tsk tsk tsk.....:ohno:

i've not experienced being delayed forever on a 5J flight, but my officemate. he was housed in a hotel all with meals till the next confirmed flight. he was also given a free round trip ticket to any local destinations. With 5J's service, yea sucks.. seems like their people do not know how to smile at all, exept when time for them to sell something to the passengers.

i've not experienced being delayed forever on a 5J flight, but my officemate. he was housed in a hotel all with meals till the next confirmed flight. he was also given a free round trip ticket to any local destinations. With 5J's service, yea sucks.. seems like their people do not know how to smile at all, exept when time for them to sell something to the passengers.

well i guess your friend was one of the very few who experienced some "good"(?) customer service of CEBU PATHETIC. he was very lucky. Most of all inconvenienced passengers of CEBU PATHETIC will never experience what your friend experienced from 5J.

yes pal has also delayed flights. come to think of it, all airlines have delayed flights. but the difference between PAL and CEBU PATHETIC is that when PAL flights are delayed or cancelled, they take care of their passengers and feed them. If CEBU PATHETIC flights get delayed or cancelled, they just let the passengers fend for themselves. No help whatsoever from CEBU PATHETIC. tsk tsk tsk.....:ohno:

It has been discussed before here, sometimes you really can't expect anything from Cebu Pacific, they are an LCC while PAL is a full service airlines. You can't expect the luxuries or amenities PAL is serving it's passengers. Pretty much all LCCs operate in the same manner even overseas with the exception of Virgin Altantic Airlines. Defiinitely all we can complain about 5J would be the constant delay of flights but as far as having hotel booking when delayed or cancelled, sometimes even with full service carriers beleting one in a hotel for cancelled flights are hard to come by. Don't expect that you would get food voucher from 5J as well, heck, LCCs in the US and europe sells the food their serve in the cabin How much more with the food outside? If in cases like delays and cancellations, to protect oneself from non refund of airfares, ask if they have some sort of insurance that you can get so when you have to cancel, transfter the ticket to another person, or if there were cancellation due to weather related issues or even you got late on your flight, you can still be protected.

Alot of filipinos are having hard time understanding the difference between a full service and an LCC. The bottom line is, know more about the LCC airline company's policies, they usuallly have it in a fine print.

Done...wla lang interior

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Silk Air

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actually maganda ang design ng old terminal....malay ang dating at pinoy....they should have maintained the old design and just made a modern interpretation of it....ngayon ang terminal nyo dyan mukhang kahon....although modern looking naman

actually maganda ang design ng old terminal....malay ang dating at pinoy....they should have maintained the old design and just made a modern interpretation of it....ngayon ang terminal nyo dyan mukhang kahon....although modern looking naman

Are you sure you know what you are talking about? Did you look at the pictures of DVO airport here? It still look very much like Malayan or Muslim inspired. It does not look boxy what-so-ever. Just curious is all if you do...

I don't have a better view or pic of DVO, I got this here in SSC in the past I believe. I don't think it is boxy. Hindi mukhang kahon.
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Are you sure you know what you are talking about? Did you look at the pictures of DVO airport here? It still look very much like Malayan or Muslim inspired. It does not look boxy what-so-ever. Just curious is all if you do...

I don't have a better view or pic of DVO, I got this here from SSC. I don't think it is boxy. Hindi mukhang kahon.
http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z170/midwestguy1/DVODSC07027.jpg

Maybe he'd seen only the tarmac side but i'm wondering how does a "mukhang kahon" looks "modern looking" though.

There must be something contradictory in it i just can't put where...

Are you sure you know what you are talking about? Did you look at the pictures of DVO airport here? It still look very much like Malayan or Muslim inspired. It does not look boxy what-so-ever. Just curious is all if you do...

I don't have a better view or pic of DVO, I got this here in SSC in the past I believe. I don't think it is boxy. Hindi mukhang kahon.
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oo nga pala....wrong mistake....sa bsa pala yun......modern interpretation na nga ito ng lumang terminal....sori po tao lang...

sana pati sa airside ganun din ang design, pero wala na tayong magagawa kasi tapos na ang airport 6 years ago pa eh.....

oo nga pala....wrong mistake....sa bsa pala yun......modern interpretation na nga ito ng lumang terminal....sori po tao lang...

Look before you leap... so they say...

oo nga pala....wrong mistake....sa bsa pala yun......modern interpretation na nga ito ng lumang terminal....sori po tao lang...

I don't think BSA looks boxy as well, it's rounded on top doh! :lol::lol:
Palusot ka pa!! LMAO OT na


Anyway, I like DVO also, it's very different and unique comparing to most airports even all over the world, in terms of design.

It has been discussed before here, sometimes you really can't expect anything from Cebu Pacific, they are an LCC while PAL is a full service airlines. You can't expect the luxuries or amenities PAL is serving it's passengers. Pretty much all LCCs operate in the same manner even overseas with the exception of Virgin Altantic Airlines. Defiinitely all we can complain about 5J would be the constant delay of flights but as far as having hotel booking when delayed or cancelled, sometimes even with full service carriers beleting one in a hotel for cancelled flights are hard to come by. Don't expect that you would get food voucher from 5J as well, heck, LCCs in the US and europe sells the food their serve in the cabin How much more with the food outside? If in cases like delays and cancellations, to protect oneself from non refund of airfares, ask if they have some sort of insurance that you can get so when you have to cancel, transfter the ticket to another person, or if there were cancellation due to weather related issues or even you got late on your flight, you can still be protected.

Alot of filipinos are having hard time understanding the difference between a full service and an LCC. The bottom line is, know more about the LCC airline company's policies, they usuallly have it in a fine print.

yeah i know. but still...PATHETIC pa rin ang CEBU PATHETIC.....my experiences with this airline is:down:

^^ Grabe galit ba...at least you didn't experienced having engine troubles like what I had when we were on mid-air....

yes pal has also delayed flights. come to think of it, all airlines have delayed flights. but the difference between PAL and CEBU PATHETIC is that when PAL flights are delayed or cancelled, they take care of their passengers and feed them. If CEBU PATHETIC flights get delayed or cancelled, they just let the passengers fend for themselves. No help whatsoever from CEBU PATHETIC. tsk tsk tsk.....:ohno:

luckily di pa ako nakaexperience ng ganito sa Cebu Pacific...ang experience ko sa kanila is hindi sila friendly...tama si Francis Xavier, di sila nakasmile, even when they greet you with good Morning/evening, I feel contrived yung greeting parang robotic, halatang SOP lang. hehe

^^ Grabe galit ba...at least you didn't experienced having engine troubles like what I had when we were on mid-air....

grabe talaga galit ko sa kanila. if you only knew all the troubles i had to go through while flying with this airline.:ohno:

yeah i know. but still...PATHETIC pa rin ang CEBU PATHETIC.....my experiences with this airline is:down:

I can't blame you with that, It does sux if most of your experiences with them are delayed and cancellation of flights. It ruins your plans most especially if you are a business person. That ruins 5J integritity.

luckily di pa ako nakaexperience ng ganito sa Cebu Pacific...ang experience ko sa kanila is hindi sila friendly...tama si Francis Xavier, di sila nakasmile, even when they greet you with good Morning/evening, I feel contrived yung greeting parang robotic, halatang SOP lang. hehe
Baka naman overworked and underpaid sila, kaya ganoon. Tapos lagi pa sila nasisigawan ng mga pasahero LMAo

I can't blame you with that, It does sux if most of your experiences with them are delayed and cancellation of flights. It ruins your plans most especially if you are a business person. That ruins 5J integritity.




that is the reason why i only fly with pal. bahala na mahal, basta i get to my place on time.:)

@noize: may guard ba doon sa old terminal? or locked lang ang door ng old terminal kaya di ka makapasok? :))

^^ dunno dude...baka meron....try mo daw :D

that is the reason why i only fly with pal. bahala na mahal, basta i get to my place on time.:)

OT: That's funny because every time I flew with PAL, the plane was always late, as the popular moniker goes. The last time I did, I had an 8AM flight and the day before the flight, PAL had the courtesy to call me and tell me that the flight was moved to 12NN. Cool, right? When I got to the airport at 10AM to check in, we were told that the flight might be delayed by an hour. But we left at 2PM. Wow. That was one day's worth of vacation wasted. This was in 2007. I hope they've improved since then. I wouldn't know since I've always flown Cebu Pacific wherever I had the option to chose them over PAL. The latest that a 5J flight I was on departed was a flight from Legaspi (1 hour) because of bad weather conditions. PAL cancelled their flight. Dunno if the passengers got any hotel and food benefits. And it's even better now since 5J flies out of T3. T2's just too far from where I live. LOL.

Back to the topic: Never been to Davao but the terminal looks nice! :)

OT: That's funny because every time I flew with PAL, the plane was always late, as the popular moniker goes. The last time I did, I had an 8AM flight and the day before the flight, PAL had the courtesy to call me and tell me that the flight was moved to 12NN. Cool, right? When I got to the airport at 10AM to check in, we were told that the flight might be delayed by an hour. But we left at 2PM. Wow. That was one day's worth of vacation wasted. This was in 2007. I hope they've improved since then. I wouldn't know since I've always flown Cebu Pacific wherever I had the option to chose them over PAL. The latest that a 5J flight I was on departed was a flight from Legaspi (1 hour) because of bad weather conditions. PAL cancelled their flight. Dunno if the passengers got any hotel and food benefits. And it's even better now since 5J flies out of T3. T2's just too far from where I live. LOL.

Back to the topic: Never been to Davao but the terminal looks nice! :)

well i have had my share of delayed and cancelled flights with PAL and they treated us with "dignity". when we were delayed we were given food to eat, when we were cancelled, we were given a place to stay. PAL kasi is a legacy carrier. 5J is an lcc and their service sucks big time. so i guess the saying "you get what you pay for" is true. :lol:

i would bet in t2 rather than t3. hehe:)
hehehe...

you should visit davao someday. i can be your tourist guide.:)

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this is why i wished for another non-lcc carrier for it to become the true 2nd flag carrier...(pero PAL parin ako..hehe) :D

uhm, are we done with the 5J topic? it almost ate 3 pages already...

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this is why i wished for another non-lcc carrier for it to become the true 2nd flag carrier...(pero PAL parin ako..hehe) :D

in fairness to PAL naman, since coming out of corporate rehabilitation, they've been striving hard to regain their foothold in the airline industry. I hope one day, they can finally compete with regional behemoths Singapore Airlines and Thai Airways. Nalagpasan na sila ng Malaysian Airlines and even Vietnam Airlines. And sana may European flights na sila ulit.

well i have had my share of delayed and cancelled flights with PAL and they treated us with "dignity". when we were delayed we were given food to eat, when we were cancelled, we were given a place to stay. PAL kasi is a legacy carrier. 5J is an lcc and their service sucks big time. so i guess the saying "you get what you pay for" is true. :lol:

i would bet in t2 rather than t3. hehe:)
hehehe...

you should visit davao someday. i can be your tourist guide.:)

I will definitely take you up on that soon ha! I've only been to CDO and Camiguin in Mindanao and so far, I'm impressed :) I'm sure Davao also holds a lot of surprises.

I will definitely take you up on that soon ha! I've only been to CDO and Camiguin in Mindanao and so far, I'm impressed :) I'm sure Davao also holds a lot of surprises.

no problem on that bro. just pm me anytime.:)

Speaking of "Cebu Pathetic", the relevant posts have been cited in the Cebu airport thread.

Speaking of "Cebu Pathetic", the relevant posts have been cited in the Cebu airport thread.

what do you mean by "cited"?

^^ *sees no use to cite it because you already found it* :lol:

^^ *sees no use to cite it because you already found it* :lol:

oo nga..hehehehehe...:)

cebu pacific april on time record is 68.8%. Since 6 months ago, I believe the highest they got was around mid 70% only. What does this mean? At least 3 flights out of 10 flights are delayed. Delay means flights unable to arrive or depart within 5 or 15 minutes (I forgot) of schedule. If a delay is 1 hour or 5 hours, it still counts as 1 delay.

To compare, PAL is now much more on time than Cebu Pacific. That's because PAL provides a longer turnaround ground time than CP. If a flight is delayed for whatever reason, the extra ground time allows PAL to catch up. CP? Sobrang exakto. Kay pag may delay, patong patong. And since they are LCC, don't expect any special treatment if there are delays. Each man for himself. With PAL, at least they give you a meal voucher.

i've not experienced being delayed forever on a 5J flight, but my officemate. he was housed in a hotel all with meals till the next confirmed flight. he was also given a free round trip ticket to any local destinations. With 5J's service, yea sucks.. seems like their people do not know how to smile at all, exept when time for them to sell something to the passengers.

luckily di pa ako nakaexperience ng ganito sa Cebu Pacific...ang experience ko sa kanila is hindi sila friendly...tama si Francis Xavier, di sila nakasmile, even when they greet you with good Morning/evening, I feel contrived yung greeting parang robotic, halatang SOP lang. hehe

on a lighter note, friendly and naka smile naman yung mga Davaoeno or Davao-based cabin crew particularly sa mga last flights hahaha..

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