i guess if there would be any effect, it would be minimal. marami naman ding mga ilonggo dito sa davao. d naman lahat ng pasahero from cotabato, sarangani and sultan kudarat.
And most likely, those who live in North Cotabato would opt for Davao rather than Gensan for their flight out. Anyway, this is a good start. :)

And most likely, those who live in North Cotabato would opt for Davao rather than Gensan for their flight out. Anyway, this is a good start. :)

yup korek.

even though 5j has so many slip-ups, i still applaud them for opening new routes. routes that seemed not profitable, but in reality very profitable. one good example is the dv0-ilo-dvo.:)

^^ There was already a DVO-ILO route back then, but it has a stopover at CEB. For most passengers, having a stop-over is a hassle and a bit expensive.

^^ There was already a DVO-ILO route back then, but it has a stopover at CEB. For most passengers, having a stop-over is a hassle and a bit expensive.

yup there was. but most of the passengers for that flight would deplane at cebu. tapos passengers from cebu would complement the passengers from davao. for me, it was not a true guage on the profitability of the route.

for me, a direct flight is a good gauge.

hope meron ng DVo-Tag .Para malipay naming mga bul-anon d na mag via cebu or barko akong lolo ky hasol kaajo ...im xur fully booked yan especially sa May.hahaha..

Rural Tours KL XMQ6126Y cummins engine with air suspension " NON STOP" VS. 5J ATR 75 500 babes in Davao-Cdo Route..lols..
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VS
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naay mga kulokoy sa luyo ay.

sa international route map ng 5J, kasama ang davao, pero davao lang ang walang info pag i click mo ang name.....maybe they are planning to resume/re start the terminated international routes from davao...i hope so,,,

this is the link of the route map..
http://cebupacificair.com/flights-and-fares/newroute/ceb-routemap.html

sa international route map ng 5J, kasama ang davao, pero davao lang ang walang info pag i click mo ang name.....maybe they are planning to resume/re start the terminated international routes from davao...i hope so,,,

this is the link of the route map..
http://cebupacificair.com/flights-and-fares/newroute/ceb-routemap.html

Siguro nga. At kapag na-acquire na nila ang Airbus fleet this year at next year. :)

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June 11, 2010, Friday

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Cebu Pacific 5J595 from Cebu

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Control Tower and Cargo Terminal

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My flight to Manila, PR812

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Boarding Bridges and Pastor Quiboloy's Hangar

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The old passenger terminals. Brings back many memories

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i just talked with a pilot of 5J who is also part of the admin of 5J. he said that 5J is bringing back the dvo-sing route. but it will be a triangular route. just like what silk air is doing. it will be mnl-dvo-sing-dvo-mnl. the good news is that it will be a daytime flight. this will de possible when the new planes of 5J will arrive. he also said that up to 5 A320's/319's and 2 ATR's will be stationed here on a day to day basis. this means that the dvo hub of 5J will again be very active. the stationing of the aircraft here means that there will be more direct flight that will operate from davao and will end in davao during the night. he also said that the old ramp/terminal of the dia was offered to 5J as a maintenance area for the sationed aircraft here.

he also said that jetstar and sm prime is negotiating to buy into zest air. he said that this will be good for the flying public as fares will further go down. but it will be bad for 5J and PR as jetstar and sm prime are very cash rich and agressive.

further more, he also mentioned that he heard that the expansion plans for the dia is with neda already. he heard that the expansion will consist of 4 more jetways (two in the right side and two in the left side), centerline lighting for the dia runway, upgrading of the airfield lighting of the dia which includes among others new approach lighting system, and parallel taxiway from 05 to 23 with high speed exit taxiways. magkano kaya ang budget para nito lahat?

ps. sana magkatotoo ito lahat.

^^^ yup, actually the news circulating in 5J right now as Manila won't be able to handle all the jets and will distribute them between Davao, cebu and clark. Some DVO-CEB flights will be operated by the A320s as well as the DVO-ILO by October....

Davao International Airport
June 11, 2010, Friday
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Other passengers disembarked through the boarding bridge while others walked on the apron


anovey... nakapayong na orange, so cute.... :rofl:

Davao International Airport
June 11, 2010, Friday
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The old passenger terminals. Brings back many memories


that's true... naalala ko mga late 90's mga tatlong beses yata akong nakatapak sa little international terminal nila (left side)... nakakatawa, dahil ang immigration doon mismo sa boarding area... :lol: tapos maglalakad sa tarmac para sumakay sa eroplano... oh those were the days :cheers:

^^the old terminal had chandeliers back then. kahit na maliit pa lang ung airport dati classy na yung lighting :lol:

^^the old terminal had chandeliers back then. kahit na maliit pa lang ung airport dati classy na yung lighting :lol:

Revived na ba ang 5J flights DVO-HKG and DVO-SNG?

with regards to the reported jetstar and sm prime negotiation of buying into zest air....it is said that jetstar has a few idle 737-800 in storage somewhere. so if the reported negotiation would push through with a majority buy in, this means that 737-800's would be the mainstay aircraft of the company. the a320's would stay, but the main aircraft of the fleet would be the 738's.

post away...:)

link to thread 6 DIA (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=852674&page=51)

i just talked with a pilot of 5J who is also part of the admin of 5J. he said that 5J is bringing back the dvo-sing route. but it will be a triangular route. just like what silk air is doing. it will be mnl-dvo-sing-dvo-mnl. the good news is that it will be a daytime flight. this will de possible when the new planes of 5J will arrive. he also said that up to 5 A320's/319's and 2 ATR's will be stationed here on a day to day basis. this means that the dvo hub of 5J will again be very active. the stationing of the aircraft here means that there will be more direct flight that will operate from davao and will end in davao during the night. he also said that the old ramp/terminal of the dia was offered to 5J as a maintenance area for the sationed aircraft here.

he also said that jetstar and sm prime is negotiating to buy into zest air. he said that this will be good for the flying public as fares will further go down. but it will be bad for 5J and PR as jetstar and sm prime are very cash rich and agressive.

further more, he also mentioned that he heard that the expansion plans for the dia is with neda already. he heard that the expansion will consist of 4 more jetways (two in the right side and two in the left side), centerline lighting for the dia runway, upgrading of the airfield lighting of the dia which includes among others new approach lighting system, and parallel taxiway from 05 to 23 with high speed exit taxiways. magkano kaya ang budget para nito lahat?

ps. sana magkatotoo ito lahat.

^ yup, actually the news circulating in 5J right now as Manila won't be able to handle all the jets and will distribute them between Davao, cebu and clark. Some DVO-CEB flights will be operated by the A320s as well as the DVO-ILO by October.... ....post by chevy_boy

with regards to the reported jetstar and sm prime negotiation of buying into zest air....it is said that jetstar has a few idle 737-800 in storage somewhere. so if the reported negotiation would push through with a majority buy in, this means that 737-800's would be the mainstay aircraft of the company. the a320's would stay, but the main aircraft of the fleet would be the 738's.
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^^
are you talking about jestar australia?
i thought they are expanding their services as well so why they have idle aircrafts? maybe madami nga siguro...im excited sana e focus talaga ng 5J ang davao hub nila...

pero im kind of sad, ganun ba talaga ka high ang demand ng davao-singapore kahit triagular route siya...sana hk-dvo din...and i hope silk air wont reduce their services to davao...

further more, he also mentioned that he heard that the expansion plans for the dia is with neda already. he heard that the expansion will consist of 4 more jetways (two in the right side and two in the left side), centerline lighting for the dia runway, upgrading of the airfield lighting of the dia which includes among others new approach lighting system, and parallel taxiway from 05 to 23 with high speed exit taxiways. magkano kaya ang budget para nito lahat?

ps. sana magkatotoo ito lahat.

tutal ok pa naman ang 4 jetways, sana yung funds para na lang sa pag ayos ng terminal coz its starting to show its age na :(

^^
are you talking about jestar australia?
i thought they are expanding their services as well so why they have idle aircrafts? maybe madami nga siguro...im excited sana e focus talaga ng 5J ang davao hub nila...

pero im kind of sad, ganun ba talaga ka high ang demand ng davao-singapore kahit triagular route siya...sana hk-dvo din...and i hope silk air wont reduce their services to davao...

jetstar singapore

;58596687']tutal ok pa naman ang 4 jetways, sana yung funds para na lang sa pag ayos ng terminal coz its starting to show its age na :(

kasama na daw yung funds sa pag rehab sa existing terminal.

^^
are you talking about jestar australia?
i thought they are expanding their services as well so why they have idle aircrafts? maybe madami nga siguro...im excited sana e focus talaga ng 5J ang davao hub nila...



expanding nga sila pero they are using the a320's na kasi. so the 738's are idle. so gagamitin nila yung 738's nila.

nagulat yung 5j na pilot na nakausap ko na when i told him that almost 2m pax passed through the dia last year(2009) and the year before(2008) almost 1.8m passed through dia.
sabi niya thats good.

pero sabi ko capacity ng dia per year is 2m lang.

ang sagot niya, thats bad.

then he mentioned na "kaya pala may narinig na ako na plans for expansion for dia. at nasa neda na daw."

Nice one!..pag ka nice na lng jud sa atong airport hilom2 lang pero d jud mabitin...Anyways "SkyScraperCity Davao" at FB guys....is now boarding...lols.....

Starting july 21, 2010 airphil express will start flying back to davao using A320's

by july 21 the flight sked is as follows:

2p987 mnl to dvo 645pm
2p988 dvo to mnl 900pm

by oct 1

2p983 mnl to dvo 820am
2p984 dvo to mnl 1035am

2p 987 mnl to dvo 645pm
2p 988 dvo to mnl 900pm

by oct 28 onwards

2p981 mnl to dvo 455am
2p982 dvo to mnl 710am

2p983 mnl to dvo 820am
2p984 dvo to mnl 1035am

2p987 mnl to dvo 645pm
2p988 dvo to mnl 900pm

Starting august 1, 2010 airphil express will start flying back to davao using A320's

by august 1 the flight sked is as follows:

2p987 mnl to dvo 645pm
2p988 dvo to mnl 900pm

by oct 1

2p983 mnl to dvo 820am
2p984 dvo to mnl 1035am

2p 987 mnl to dvo 645pm
2p 988 dvo to mnl 900pm

by oct 28 onwards

2p981 mnl to dvo 455am
2p982 dvo to mnl 710am

2p983 mnl to dvo 820am
2p984 dvo to mnl 1035am

2p987 mnl to dvo 645pm
2p988 dvo to mnl 900pm


Mabawasan ba Flights ng PR nyan Sir?

Mabawasan ba Flights ng PR nyan Sir?

nope.:)

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anong airline yoon? :dunno:

^^ Jeju Air is a Korean airline.

ang layo naman ng binyahe ng q400 na yan.....

ano yan may external drop tanks? hehehehehe

Mabawasan ba Flights ng PR nyan Sir?

I think yup. Pls check yung timetable ng PAL mukhang 5x na lang daily sila to Davao kasi yung may asterisk (*) is operating only for specific periods. (www.philippineairlines.com)

^^

what he meant was that kung mababawasan ang current flights ng PAL once 2p starts to fly to davao. the answer is a no. hindi mababawasan.

yang sinasabi mo na mabawasan, oo mga nabawasan. pero that was programmed even before 2P was scheduled to fly to davao. we all knew,(since the start of summer) na mababawasan ang flights ng PAL come june kasi lean season.

so hindi mababawasan ang flights ng PR when 2P starts to fly to davao.

¿Comprende?

^^

what he meant was that kung mababawasan ang current flights ng PAL once 2p starts to fly to davao. the answer is a no. hindi mababawasan.

yang sinasabi mo na mabawasan, oo mga nabawasan. pero that was programmed even before 2P was scheduled to fly to davao. we all knew,(since the start of summer) na mababawasan ang flights ng PAL come june kasi lean season.

so hindi mababawasan ang flights ng PR when 2P starts to fly to davao.

¿Comprende?

Precisely! they reduced the sked even before 2P started in anticipation of the future plan of 2P to fly to your place. FYI im a travel agent kaya i know how these skeds are prepared. Thats part of PALs downsizing. Hindi lang Davao ang nabawasan pati Cebu. Thats how PAL and Airphil is being positioned right now to compete with Cebpac.Intiendes?:bash:

Precisely! they reduced the sked even before 2P started in anticipation of the future plan of 2P to fly to your place. FYI im a travel agent kaya i know how these skeds are prepared. Thats part of PALs downsizing. Intiendes?:bash:

fyi, i dont care if your a travel agent. i also doubt that you know everything.....:ohno:

to tell you frankly, i have just talked with a PAL Senoir VP who is my cousin i may add.....and i am sorry to tell you that frequencies between davao and manila that is being serviced by PAL will increase in september. it will go back to the 7 flights per day...

so who knows more... you or me?

^^ Jeju Air is a Korean airline.

ang layo naman ng binyahe ng q400 na yan.....

ano yan may external drop tanks? hehehehehe

over ha... ang layo naman ng byahe nyan :bash: :lol:

fyi, i dont care if your a travel agent. i also doubt that you know everything.....:ohno:

to tell you frankly, i have just talked with a PAL Senoir VP who is my cousin i may add.....and i am sorry to tell you that frequencies between davao and manila that is being serviced by PAL will increase in september. it will go back to the 7 flights per day...

so who knows more... you or me?

Better do your research first before you go on ranting. This froum is also a source of infos so we must be accurate. Dont try to pretend that you have a cousin who is a VP in PAL. Actually, those executives dont just disclose their corporate plans to anybody except some of their business partners or those with stake in PAL. Otherwise, he will be guilty of leaking infos to the public.

Or better yet try to check PALs website sa September kung tama ka. If you're right then you can go ranting again.

hay nako. i dont have to explain myself to you. you are not the boss of me and i stand by the info of my post and my source.

you are just a nobody to me...mr nobody travel agent.

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PS: ATTENTION CAAP DAVAO....MAY MGA PUNDIDO NA BULBS ON THE APPROACH LIGHTS...PALITAN NYO NA!

NOTE: PAPI lights on both sides of the runway......meaning....DIA is a precision runway...

^^ @Xzibit...wow! You were allowed at the cockpit during the landing?

Precisely! they reduced the sked even before 2P started in anticipation of the future plan of 2P to fly to your place. FYI im a travel agent kaya i know how these skeds are prepared. Thats part of PALs downsizing. Hindi lang Davao ang nabawasan pati Cebu. Thats how PAL and Airphil is being positioned right now to compete with Cebpac.Intiendes?:bash:


Peace po.:ohno:..Ok's lng yan mga sir at list dami na flights to choose from..It depends naman yan cguro if seasonal dba...:banana::banana:...

^^ @Xzibit...wow! You were allowed at the cockpit during the landing?

Yung Tatay Nya kase ang Piloto....

hay nako. i dont have to explain myself to you. you are not the boss of me and i stand by the info of my post and my source.

you are just a nobody to me...mr nobody travel agent.

Dapat may nagchecheck dito ng grammar.Peace!!:)

^^ hehe san po ang mali sa grammar nya? para naman matuto ako, di kasi ako bihasa sa wikang ingles

Yung Tatay Nya kase ang Piloto....
Wow! Being an aviation enthusiast myself, that is something I would like to see.

^^ @Xzibit...wow! You were allowed at the cockpit during the landing?

yup....got friends and relatives in very high places in the airlines.

Dapat may nagchecheck dito ng grammar.Peace!!:)

oh well. m not perfect. and i am not claiming that i am.

Yung Tatay Nya kase ang Piloto....

d naman.. jut got friends and relatives in the airlines.

yup....got friends and relatives in very high places in the airlines.
Wow! I hope I have the chance to at least meet and greet the pilots. Wanna have some interview ask the secrets of landing a plane perfectly, hehe!! :D
BTW, if that's PR, is it still possible to break the monopoly of 5J in ILO-DVO flights maybe through 2P or something?

Wow! I hope I have the chance to at least meet and greet the pilots. Wanna have some interview ask the secrets of landing a plane perfectly, hehe!! :D
BTW, if that's PR, is it still possible to break the monopoly of 5J in ILO-DVO flights maybe through 2P or something?

i dont really know. but what i know is that the load factor of 5J on the dvo-ilo-dvo route is around 95% bothways. so i guess 2P might take a shot at it.

to tell you, its so difficult to get a promo fare for that route. almost everyday puno ang flights.

hay nako. i dont have to explain myself to you. you are not the boss of me and i stand by the info of my post and my source.

you are just a nobody to me...mr nobody travel agent.

Neither do I see anything wrong with the grammatical construction here. This is good English to me.:)

i dont really know. but what i know is that the load factor of 5J on the dvo-ilo-dvo route is around 95% bothways. so i guess 2P might take a shot at it.

to tell you, its so difficult to get a promo fare for that route. almost everyday puno ang flights.
I just saw 5J's winter schedule. They'll be changing their planes for ILO-DVO vv route from A319 to A320 by November of this year. I don't know how much is the difference between the two with 5J's seating configuration but it may help accommodate more passengers (and more seat sale, hehe!) :) Before it was 5J, 2P was offering flights from DVO to ILO via CEB. However, having a stop-over is such a hassle, aside from competing space with Cebu-bound passengers.

However with competition, it may bring down the fare for this segment.

I just saw 5J's winter schedule. They'll be changing their planes for ILO-DVO vv route from A319 to A320 by November of this year. I don't know how much is the difference between the two with 5J's seating configuration but it may help accommodate more passengers (and more seat sale, hehe!) :) Before it was 5J, 2P was offering flights from DVO to ILO via CEB. However, having a stop-over is such a hassle, aside from competing space with Cebu-bound passengers.

However with competition, it may bring down the fare for this segment.

yup, my friend from 5J told me this two weeks ago, about the upgrade of aircraft on the dvo-ilo-dvo route. this is because some of the a320's/319's, ATR's will be stationed here in davao na daw.

there is also an upgrade in the dvo-zam route as well. from the ATR's to the 319's.

i think the passenger capacity of the 5J 320's are 170++, the 319's around 150++.

hay nako. i dont have to explain myself to you. you are not the boss of me and i stand by the info of my post and my source.

you are just a nobody to me...mr nobody travel agent.


You are not SSC Davao's resident socialite for nothing. :lol: :nocrook:

I just saw 5J's winter schedule. They'll be changing their planes for ILO-DVO vv route from A319 to A320 by November of this year. I don't know how much is the difference between the two with 5J's seating configuration but it may help accommodate more passengers (and more seat sale, hehe!) :) Before it was 5J, 2P was offering flights from DVO to ILO via CEB. However, having a stop-over is such a hassle, aside from competing space with Cebu-bound passengers.

However with competition, it may bring down the fare for this segment.

5J Airbus A319 - 156pax
5J Airbus A320 - 179 pax for RP-C3240,41,42,43 and 180 44 to 50...

the DVO-ILO will have an increase of around 23 to 24 seats... not bad as almost all flights are fully booked....a very successful flight of 5J..

5J Airbus A319 - 156pax
5J Airbus A320 - 179 pax for RP-C3240,41,42,43 and 180 44 to 50...

the DVO-ILO will have an increase of around 23 to 24 seats... not bad as almost all flights are fully booked....a very successful flight of 5J..



^^

what will be DVO-ZAM daily load factor after it has been upgraded to A319 from ATR?

^^

what will be DVO-ZAM daily load factor after it has been upgraded to A319 from ATR?

We'll know soon... :) I guess it'll be around 70+% up hopefully...

is it true that CEB will resume the Dvo-Sing flight? How about the Dvo-HK flight?

is it true that CEB will resume the Dvo-Sing flight? How about the Dvo-HK flight?

according to my friend who works for 5J(admin), a traingular route is being planned for international flights out of davao. similar to what silk air is oing right now. the good news is that the flights will be during the day and not during the middle of the night.

PAL recently took out one flight on the mnl-dvo-mnl route. from the usual 6 flights a day , its down to 5 flights a day. one forumer (the travel agent guy) said that it was part of PR's downsizing.

on the 6 flights per day PR operated a mix of 330's(twice), 340(twice), and 320's (twice a day).

now with five flights per day PR is operating a mix of 330's (twice), 340's(once), 744's(once), 320's(once).

now if we add up the number of seats on those widebodies and a single narrowbody, parang equal lang ang number of seats with the number of seats sa 6 flights per day.

is this downsizing? what is your take on this?

^^ From the way I see it, it looks like two flights were merged to form an upgauged flight.

PAL recently took out one flight on the mnl-dvo-mnl route. from the usual 6 flights a day , its down to 5 flights a day. one forumer (the travel agent guy) said that it was part of PR's downsizing.

on the 6 flights per day PR operated a mix of 330's(twice), 340(twice), and 320's (twice a day).

now with five flights per day PR is operating a mix of 330's (twice), 340's(once), 744's(once), 320's(once).

now if we add up the number of seats on those widebodies and a single narrowbody, parang equal lang ang number of seats with the number of seats sa 6 flights per day.

is this downsizing? what is your take on this?

The airline industry calls it "Rightsizing". It is still the same seat capacity as applied because airlines dont apply to CAB by type of planes but by number of seats.

The airline industry calls it "Rightsizing". It is still the same seat capacity as applied because airlines dont apply to CAB by type of planes but by number of seats.

You're right . For expediency rightsizing should be applied in this uncertain period. Hopefully there will be no flight cancellations on this new 5 flights per day.Usually the last flight is cancelled if the volume of passengers is low or whatever is the problem beyond their control. Before its okey considering that PR passengers will just be tansferred to 2P flights or another PR flight via Cebu but since Airphil is not operating yet and there is only one flight for Cebu it will be a big discomfort for passengers.

You're right . For expediency rightsizing should be applied in this uncertain period. Hopefully there will be no flight cancellations on this new 5 flights per day.Usually the last flight is cancelled if the volume of passengers is low or whatever is the problem beyond their control. Before its okey considering that PR passengers will just be tansferred to 2P flights or another PR flight via Cebu but since Airphil is not operating yet and there is only one flight for Cebu it will be a big discomfort for passengers.

there have been no flight cancellations sa last daily flight of PR to davao due to low passenger loads. load factors for the mnl-dvo-mnl route have remained at at a steady 80% to 85% per flight, per day.

Technically, its like this, when PAL uses A340, it is basically a downgrade of equipment from the usual A330 since there would not be enough passengers to fill the A330, and when it uses the B747, it is an upgrade because it has more seats than the A330. In some cases though, instead of the A340 or the A330, the A320 is used which reflect the real number of passengers on it. That is rightsizing. But the frequency is still there depending on pax load variations.

PAL recently took out one flight on the mnl-dvo-mnl route. from the usual 6 flights a day , its down to 5 flights a day. one forumer (the travel agent guy) said that it was part of PR's downsizing.

on the 6 flights per day PR operated a mix of 330's(twice), 340(twice), and 320's (twice a day).

now with five flights per day PR is operating a mix of 330's (twice), 340's(once), 744's(once), 320's(once).

now if we add up the number of seats on those widebodies and a single narrowbody, parang equal lang ang number of seats with the number of seats sa 6 flights per day.

is this downsizing? what is your take on this?

Yung 744 (once) is not regular. sa booking kasi namin sa abacus ang lumalabas is pa-iba iba. Depende dun sa volume ng pax. (EQV).There are certain days na dalawa nag 320 and three 330's OR one 330 tapos, two 340's and one 320.

Yung 744 (once) is not regular. sa booking kasi namin sa abacus ang lumalabas is pa-iba iba. Depende dun sa volume ng pax. (EQV).There are certain days na dalawa nag 320 and three 330's OR one 330 tapos, two 340's and one 320.

i knew you would answer this.

well the abacus system does not reflect the sudden change of aircraft on the routes on that same day. to tell you frankly halos everyday lumilipad ang 744 dito sa davao. i bet that does not show on the abacus system.

at yung sinabi mo na depende yun sa volume ng pax...sorry to say but its not all about the volume of pax....it also includes the volume of cargo that is being loaded into the aircraft.

according to my friend who works for 5J(admin), a traingular route is being planned for international flights out of davao. similar to what silk air is oing right now. the good news is that the flights will be during the day and not during the middle of the night.

wow thanks po for the info...sana sana sana matuloy...:D
and the good thing is day trip sya...sabay kaya sa flight ang mga Dvo-Ceb passengers? ksi it will eat up sa seating capacity, baka limited na ung seats...pero, this is very good news nonetheless.

Yung 744 (once) is not regular. sa booking kasi namin sa abacus ang lumalabas is pa-iba iba. Depende dun sa volume ng pax. (EQV).There are certain days na dalawa nag 320 and three 330's OR one 330 tapos, two 340's and one 320.

i knew you would answer this.

well the abacus system does not reflect the sudden change of aircraft on the routes on that same day. to tell you frankly halos everyday lumilipad ang 744 dito sa davao. i bet that does not show on the abacus system.

at yung sinabi mo na depende yun sa volume ng pax...sorry to say but its not all about the volume of pax....it also includes the volume of cargo that is being loaded into the aircraft.

Guys, hold your horses.

Both your posts are correct. That is the reason why its EQV. Its mainly dependent on passenger volume but in some cases, cargo volume do influences the type of aircraft to be deployed.

i knew you would answer this.

well the abacus system does not reflect the sudden change of aircraft on the routes on that same day. to tell you frankly halos everyday lumilipad ang 744 dito sa davao. i bet that does not show on the abacus system.

at yung sinabi mo na depende yun sa volume ng pax...sorry to say but its not all about the volume of pax....it also includes the volume of cargo that is being loaded into the aircraft.

HAYZZZ!! Ranting without basis again. Mahirap makipag argue sa isang "all knowing". Why would you not accept that it is the reality its EQV. Mahirap naman yatang hindi magreflect sa system namin yung change of aircraft eh, 'di nag overbook kami or underbook.Abacus system reflects everything otherwise there could be some problems in the bookings.

HAYZZZ!! Ranting without basis again. Mahirap makipag argue sa isang "all knowing". Why would you not accept that it is the reality its EQV. Mahirap naman yatang hindi magreflect sa system namin yung change of aircraft eh, 'di nag overbook kami or underbook.Abacus system reflects everything otherwise there could be some problems in the bookings.

hahahaha..as if wala akong alam sa abacus system. hahahaha...you are so funny.....:lol:




ps....like what happened kanina.....PR811 mnl-dvo was designated as an a333 flight sa system...then why did a 744 come instead of the usual 333.....???... did it show up on the system? i dont think so....oh well....


oh yes.. thanks for calling me "all knowing"..i take it as a compliment and not as an insult.....hahahaha....

^^
oh yeah...this is going to be the last i will comment on your posts. i will just understand you nalang . tutal mas nakakatanda ako sa iyo.:lol:

^^
oh yeah...this is going to be the last i will comment on your posts. i will just understand you nalang . tutal mas nakakatanda ako sa iyo.:lol:
What's with xzibit and calbayognon discussing heavily on passenger and cargo volume? PAL agents trying to outwit each other? Would be nice to know improvements on terminal facilities if any. From all the flights you are talking about, how's the check-in hall handling all the line-ups? Please keep your cool, Thanks.

What's with xzibit and calbayognon discussing heavily on passenger and cargo volume? PAL agents trying to outwit each other? Would be nice to know improvements on terminal facilities if any. From all the flights you are talking about, how's the check-in hall handling all the line-ups? Please keep your cool, Thanks.

its ok. the check-in hall is large enough to handle the volume of passengers entering the airport. its not cramp kasi like in bacolod and iloilo.

its ok. the check-in hall is large enough to handle the volume of passengers entering the airport. its not cramp kasi like in bacolod and iloilo.
Good to know, planning well done. Davao may not be as modern looking as Bacolod and Ilo-Ilo but I've always thought that terminal has a wider check-in hall and that is indication of good planning to begin with, the rest of the spaces will follow. Good going davao, the roof is still iconic! Thanks.

I dont think Bacolod looks more modern than DIA :)

I know its a matter of opinion but how can you even consider this

http://aleafofgrass.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/facade.jpg

http://manilastreetwalker.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/bs-airport-6.jpg

more modern looking than this?

http://images3.jetphotos.net/img/1/8/1/7/39781_1075863718.jpg

http://aktuelle-info.philippinen-reisen.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/davao-flughafen.jpg

its ok. the check-in hall is large enough to handle the volume of passengers entering the airport. its not cramp kasi like in bacolod and iloilo.

ang reklamo ko lang sa check-in hall eh ang tarp ng Cebu Pacific..while Silkair and Pal and If I remember correctly eh Air Philippines din.. eh maganda ang pagkagawa, ang Cebu Pacific ...TARP!!!! susme! alam ko LCC sila pero pati ba naman yun? nakupow!

;59488601']ang reklamo ko lang sa check-in hall eh ang tarp ng Cebu Pacific..while Silkair and Pal and If I remember correctly eh Air Philippines din.. eh maganda ang pagkagawa, ang Cebu Pacific ...TARP!!!! susme! alam ko LCC sila pero pati ba naman yun? nakupow!

well they are not cebu pathetic for nothing.....:lol:

Good to know, planning well done. Davao may not be as modern looking as Bacolod and Ilo-Ilo but I've always thought that terminal has a wider check-in hall and that is indication of good planning to begin with, the rest of the spaces will follow. Good going davao, the roof is still iconic! Thanks.

i guess its a matter of choice on which structure is more modern looking than the other.

for me, the more modern terminal building is davao's.

mas modern naman yata ang sa davao...im not being bias...:)

baka ibig sabihin niya mas modern ang sa bacolod at iloilo kasi mas bago sila kaysa sa davao...

modern din ang sa iloilo
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/c0/Iloilo_Airport_Exterior.jpg/800px-Iloilo_Airport_Exterior.jpg

^^ ive been to ILO and ito ang comparison ko with DVO

Exteriors - ILO has better looking exteriors esp from the apron side. DVO has an edge lang in character kasi it reflects the culture ng city..DVO looks crap from the apron side though

Check-in area (this sa pics lang) - DVO is better, mas maaliwalas and malaki

Departure area (again sa pics lang for ILO) - ILO is better hands down..walang sinabi ang pre departure area ng DVO sa ILO imo

Arrival area - DVO is better..not by much, but better

i like the move made by DIA recently, they opened the inner road, mas madali na ang check in, kasi hindi na cramped and cars are able to park with ease...unlike dati na we use the outer road, parang service road, and ang hirap mag park to unload baggage.

^^ @WayWay
iloilo airport looks massive...is it really massive? hows the interior?

i like the move made by DIA recently, they opened the inner road, mas madali na ang check in, kasi hindi na cramped and cars are able to park with ease...unlike dati na we use the outer road, parang service road, and ang hirap mag park to unload baggage.

open naman talaga yan...few years ago, open yan..pero after a few yeears dinn, gi close nila then gibutangan ug "tent" para sa mga sundalo mag check sa mga luggage (which is very inconvenient, but i understand)...and makadaot pa gyud sa view sa airport...pero if gi open na pud nila, thats good to know, mas maaliwalas na and mas good ang flow ng traffic, not to mention the convenience that will be experienced by the passengers..:)

im just wondering where would they build the expansion of the dia, if there will be...

mas modern naman yata ang sa davao...im not being bias...:)

baka ibig sabihin niya mas modern ang sa bacolod at iloilo kasi mas bago sila kaysa sa davao...

modern din ang sa iloilo


They are all modern looking, just of different style. I think that person was just refering to the asthetic aspect of the design but to sum it all of, DVO, ILO and BCD all conforms to what is called "modern design" just that DVO designer encorporated the area's ethnic culture with a modern twist.


@Waway, that's the only thing I've noticed with DVO through the pictures I've seen here. DVO has 4 jetbridges but the predeparture lounges looks smaller unlike ILO, it is very spaceous looking and its high ceiling is a big plus.

^^ @WayWay
iloilo airport looks massive...is it really massive? hows the interior?



open naman talaga yan...few years ago, open yan..pero after a few yeears dinn, gi close nila then gibutangan ug "tent" para sa mga sundalo mag check sa mga luggage (which is very inconvenient, but i understand)...and makadaot pa gyud sa view sa airport...pero if gi open na pud nila, thats good to know, mas maaliwalas na and mas good ang flow ng traffic, not to mention the convenience that will be experienced by the passengers..:)

im just wondering where would they build the expansion of the dia, if there will be...

yup, open tlaga sya dati...I think they closed it for security reasons, w/c could also mean that re-opening the road is a sign of better peace & order? anyways, that's something to ponder...pero right now, I really like the move, kasi easier ang access sa departure area, better traffic flow...hopefully, ganito na tlaga sya.

regarding sa question w/c is more modern looking, I think Bacolod and Iloilo has the more modern-looking bldg, kasi Davao integrated Malayan (?) culture sa design, w/c I think is better.

yup, open tlaga sya dati...I think they closed it for security reasons, w/c could also mean that re-opening the road is a sign of better peace & order? anyways, that's something to ponder...pero right now, I really like the move, kasi easier ang access sa departure area, better traffic flow...hopefully, ganito na tlaga sya.

regarding sa question w/c is more modern looking, I think Bacolod and Iloilo has the more modern-looking bldg, kasi Davao integrated Malayan (?) culture sa design, w/c I think is better.

nice kaayo...i dont like the look of the airport having a tent infront of it before you can enter sa main entrance...
yeah you can never go wrong pag naay peace and order..unta magpadayon ni, ug di mahitabo tong sa una (touch wood)

mas modernan ko sa dia...modern ang design..kakaiba...

They are all modern looking, just of different style. I think that person was just refering to the asthetic aspect of the design but to sum it all of, DVO, ILO and BCD all conforms to what is called "modern design" just that DVO designer encorporated the area's ethnic culture with a modern twist.


@Waway, that's the only thing I've noticed with DVO through the pictures I've seen here. DVO has 4 jetbridges but the predeparture lounges looks smaller unlike ILO, it is very spaceous looking and its high ceiling is a big plus.

the pre dparture of the DIA looks smaller because of the low ceiling. but in reality the pre-depature of davao is much much bigger than ILO. what you see in the pictures are the common areas where gates 6, 7, and 8 are located. what you don't see in the pictures are gates 3, 4, and 5 (separate from each other) which are located right after the last screening and xray process. not included in the gates are the mabuhay lounge of PR, smoking lounge, and the VIP Lounge for visiting dignitaries

gate 1 is the common area for international passengers. gate 2 (separate from gate 1) is another common area for international passengers. gate 2 has a swing gate so that when there is as over flow of domestic passengers, it can be used. the international side also has 2 VIP lounges, and a smoking lounge.

nice kaayo...i dont like the look of the airport having a tent infront of it before you can enter sa main entrance...
yeah you can never go wrong pag naay peace and order..unta magpadayon ni, ug di mahitabo tong sa una (touch wood)

mas modernan ko sa dia...modern ang design..kakaiba...


actually, meron pa din ung tent, pero they moved it closer to the parking area, I think it covers the outer/service road and the stairs leading to the parking area...still better look kasi di na attached ung tent sa airport itself...now I realize, I should have taken pictures...lol

^^ @WayWay
iloilo airport looks massive...is it really massive? hows the interior?


mas malaki ang DIA terminal, longer sya thank ILO, just imagine na DIA has 2 arrival areas while ILO has 1 lang


@Waway, that's the only thing I've noticed with DVO through the pictures I've seen here. DVO has 4 jetbridges but the predeparture lounges looks smaller unlike ILO, it is very spaceous looking and its high ceiling is a big plus.

Yan din gusto ko sa ILO, it reminds me of T2, maaliwalas kasi isang hall lang then high ceiling pa, DIA probably has a bigger (overall area) pre-departure loung but it doesnt show kasi naka divide into gates/rooms tapos mababa ang ceiling :( mas gusto ko pa ang old pre departure lounge (old terminal) na en-grande ang dating..sa ngayon basic sya masyado.

^^ May latest pictures kayo ng Davao airport pre-departure area?

Gusto ko din ang check in lobby ng DVO airport. Malawak and maliwanag. Sayang low ceiling at divided ng check in counter/rooms gaya ng sabi ni waway. Okay na rin yan basta hindi nag sisikan ang tao pag oras na talagang puno ang airport lalo na pag mga panahon ng mga bakasyon.


Huwag nalang tayo mag kumpara ng mga airport, may kanya kanya naman talagang pros and cons ang mga yan. Pare pareho naman maganda tignan at bago pa.

Ba yan, who's more modern and who's not modern talaga, hehe!! :lol:

As long as it serves its purpose well, I have nothing much to say more. For us, having the new ILO terminal is a far cry from the lamentations that we have with our old airport in Mandurriao...Standing room during rush hours, poor airconditioning and labay bagahe system. Safety was also a concern since ILO was a visual airport before.

I agree, the check-in counter is something of a concern. I've been in a "rush hour" situation and the area is very very cramped. To think of it, the airport was originally made for 1.2 million passengers annually, and just last year, we've breached our mark--and the new airport is barely 3 years old!

At least we have these new airports. The only thing that bothers us is this Category 2 FAA rating and ICAO rating. We may have these new and modern airports, but if we couldn't get these issues done, then the new airports may not attain its optimal functions.

Beauty is relative and so are the adjectives, hehe! :D

Ba yan, who's more modern and who's not modern talaga, hehe!! :lol:

As long as it serves its purpose well, I have nothing much to say more. For us, having the new ILO terminal is a far cry from the lamentations that we have with our old airport in Mandurriao...Standing room during rush hours, poor airconditioning and labay bagahe system. Safety was also a concern since ILO was a visual airport before.

I agree, the check-in counter is something of a concern. I've been in a "rush hour" situation and the area is very very cramped. To think of it, the airport was originally made for 1.2 million passengers annually, and just last year, we've breached our mark--and the new airport is barely 3 years old!

At least we have these new airports. The only thing that bothers us is this Category 2 FAA rating and ICAO rating. We may have these new and modern airports, but if we couldn't get these issues done, then the new airports may not attain its optimal functions.

Beauty is relative and so are the adjectives, hehe! :D

well forum nga eh kaya you cannot avoid discussions..I do believe ok ar man i compare ano ang nice and not so nice points ng isang airport as long as wag haluan ng pride..

if we take a look at the international threads open na man sila kadalasan sa opinion and they can clash ng opinions without a thread turning into a flame war..

;59581803']well forum nga eh kaya you cannot avoid discussions..I do believe ok ar man i compare ano ang nice and not so nice points ng isang airport as long as wag haluan ng pride..

if we take a look at the international threads open na man sila kadalasan sa opinion and they can clash ng opinions without a thread turning into a flame war..

Well, planning issues in airports are always good points to discuss. Only the travelling public can tell whether its efficient or not. As you know, the architects would always observe how the users would react to the space; stress is always alleviated when that personal space gets constricted in long line-ups, add the poor air-conditioning and a delayed flight and you will see tempers flare in a snap! That's the discussion here, the check-in hall will trigger it all. Get past security screening, then you feel relaxed at pre-departure.

^^agree @ waway...it is a good point to discuss all these as long as we look at it subjectively and not by playing it with emotions...it's from where we know other related flaws where-in we never did notice as before to which we could use in our advantage rather than as failures...for reality speaks there in no such thing as "perfect"...only room for improvement...:cheers:

sa august punta akong davao ulit. makikita ko na naman ang airport ng davao. :banana::banana::banana:

Firm developing subdivision in front of Davao int’l airport
DAVAO CITY -- Homegrown BDA Holiday Prime Properties, Inc. is developing 4.7-hectare residential project in front of the Davao International Airport.

Wally A. Alvarez, part owner of the firm, said the Orchid Hill Subdivision will feature 156 housing units whose prices per unit would range from P3.5 million to P4 million.

Mr. Alvarez said the project will have a commercial section since it is very near the airport and one of the big schools in the city, Jose Maria College of televangelist Apollo C. Quiboloy of the Jesus Christ the Name Above Every Name church. “We hope to maximize the use of the property because it has good location,” he said.

The company, which is partly-owned by the Bangayan family, one of the prominent property developers in the city, has already started development of the project, said Mr. Alvarez.

“We are hoping to start construction of the houses before the end of the third quarter of the year,” Mr. Alvarez told BusinessWorld, noting the smallest unit will have a total land area of 180 square meters.

He added the company is looking at local buyers as well as Filipino workers abroad as key markets for the project. “There are already inquiries, but we are not into preselling just yet. We want to put everything in place before we start the preselling,” he said. Some of the inquiries came from relatives of families working abroad, he said.

This confirms expectations from the construction industry that overseas Filipinos will remain the driver of residential construction this year. Manolito P. Madrasto, executive director of the Philippine Constructors Association, said the construction industry is expected to register a 7% growth, mainly due to demand from overseas Filipinos.

Mr. Madrasto said overseas workers and their families consider housing a top priority. This is a “change in paradigm” because in the past, money sent back to the families was often used to buy consumer goods or pay for school tuition. http://www.bworldonline.com/main/content.php?id=13467

;59581803']well forum nga eh kaya you cannot avoid discussions..I do believe ok ar man i compare ano ang nice and not so nice points ng isang airport as long as wag haluan ng pride..

if we take a look at the international threads open na man sila kadalasan sa opinion and they can clash ng opinions without a thread turning into a flame war..
That is what the policy makers called "benchmarking." A lot of the rankings in the past were done in order to check and balance what is right and what is wrong.

It is sometimes that some people get carried away with pride, alas immature in dealing with "mature material."

The reality is that we don't have the same line of thinking, and this is what we like about the world as we see it. :)

Firm developing subdivision in front of Davao int’l airport
http://www.bworldonline.com/main/content.php?id=13467

I am not sure if this is really considered a good news or what. I just don't like the idea of residential area close to an airport even if it is still considered far from the runway, but, that's just me.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ab/Pal_a330_davao.jpg

trivia: Handling about 1,935,449 domestic passengers in 2009, the Davao International Airport handled 241,864 more passengers than Lumbia and Zamboanga combined

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trivia: Handling about 1,935,449 domestic passengers in 2009, the Davao International Airport handled 241,864 more passengers than Laguindingan and Zamboanga combined

Saan yan? :dunno:

^^wala pa gani nag-operate haha. pero if i-combine ang two airports, DVO still handled more passengers than CGY and ZAM combined

oops my bad... I meant Lumbia :lol: and yes, DIA domestic passenger traffic = Lumbia + ZIA + 241,864

;59743035']http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ab/Pal_a330_davao.jpg

trivia: Handling about 1,935,449 domestic passengers in 2009, the Davao International Airport handled 241,864 more passengers than Lumbia and Zamboanga combined

pic taken from the international side of the terminal. the wing that you see on the right side of the pic belongs to the a320 of silk air.

;59747507']oops my bad... I meant Lumbia :lol: and yes, DIA domestic passenger traffic = Lumbia + ZIA + 241,864

:dunno:

nice info! ^^

:dunno:

Lumbia Airport in Cagayan de Oro.

Lumbia Airport in Cagayan de Oro.

Ahh. May airport pala dun. Never been to that place kasi. Thanks for the info! :)

Ahh. May airport pala dun. Never been to that place kasi. Thanks for the info! :)

Akala ko LUMPIA... :nuts:

Ahh. May airport pala dun. Never been to that place kasi. Thanks for the info! :)

Meron sir, but it will soon be replaced by the soon to be busiest airport in Mindanao (Laguindingan)

I can't wait to see the Laguindingan INTERNATIONAL Airport.. and soon to be the busiest airport in Mindanao... Hope mag karoon ng direct flight from kuwait, Dubai, US.. para duol nalang dayon ang byahe....

international? busiest? murag matinood gyud na kay ang domestic pa lang ga-awas-awas na

unsay gihimo sa lumang terminal.....?

^^ well there were lots of plans ang city govt kung unsa juy buhaton sa old dia. dati gina propose nila na himuon siyag domestic airport, then nahimong cargo terminal, then himuon ug bpo facility, then himuong air force base but until now wala pay clarong plano kung unsaun jud ang pwedeng buhaton sa old terminal. for now wala pa gihapon siya ginagamit. except for the parking area niya nga ginahimong drifting area.

VOR fixed, But no ILS yet
By Recto Mercene
July 8, 2010


Manila - THE crucial navigational aid VOR (VHF Omnidirectional range) was put back on the air at 11 a.m. on Wednesday, 17 days after it conked out due to wear and tear.

The announcement was broadcast worldwide to all major airports via the Notice-to-airmen (Notam) by the Civil Aviation Authority of the Philippines (Caap).

“The VOR of the airport navigational facilities is now serviceable,” said Caap Director General Alfonso Cusi at a press conference.

He said the Navaid was flight-tested from 7 to 9 a.m. by a Beechcraft “King Air” B200, flying around the airport above the VOR at 2,000 feet, checking every 10 degrees the accuracy of the signal.

Capt. Gilbert Bautista, a veteran pilot of the King Air Beechcraft, did the flight-checking, assisted by five other technical experts, Cusi said.

With the VOR’s restoration, airplanes on instrument flight would be able to come near and make an attempt to land on runway 24 at a minimum altitude of 500 feet and visibility at 3 to 4 kilometers before seeing the runway.

If using runway 06, a pilot could fly as low as 400 feet and as near the runway as 3 to 4 km to be able to see the runway; otherwise, the pilot aborts his landing and makes another try.

Cusi said that since the VOR was switched on, 75 domestic and international flights were able to land safely, from 11 a.m. until 1:45 p.m.

The VOR conked out after 14 years of continuous service, 24 hours a day, seven days a week. It has a shelf life of 15 years. That, coupled with the poor to zero visibility alternately caused by thunderstorms and a haze, had caused some flights to be delayed, canceled or diverted to Clark airport.

After weeks of on-off operations, with the equipment undergoing repairs with parts cannibalized from the Subic VOR, a team of European experts flew into Manila last week, bringing with them the parts purchased in Germany.

Five European engineers were invited by the Caap to look into the VOR problem, and also to replace the defective parts.

Cusi said that even if the VOR malfunctions again, the Caap has in place the Required Area Navigation (RNAV) system, a satellite-based means of navigating and landing that is more accurate than the VOR.

He said the RNAV’s activation had already been broadcast worldwide via the Notam, and that local air carriers have been advised to adjust the compatible equipment aboard their planes to be able to carry out navigation and landing procedures safely.

According to Cusi, the Caap is requesting for a new VOR replacement as soon as possible so that in case of a breakdown, there would be more than one navigational aid that could back up the RNAV.

He said the instrument landing system (ILS) would be installed and ready for use by end-July.

At the same time, Cusi said Caap will bill the Manila International Airport Authority (Miaa) for the expenses incurred in flight checking, calibrating and repairing the VOR.

“We have to bill the Miaa since the Caap is already a government-owned and -controlled corporation,” he added, saying that one of the functions of the new aviation body is to raise revenues to fund its operations, secure more money to pay its technical experts and thousands of employees.

Cusi ordered the chief of the Air Traffic Service and the Air Navigational Service to activate all the other RNAVs in the Philippines located in Cebu, Davao, Iloilo, Bacolod, Clark and Subic.

;59795947']Meron sir, but it will soon be replaced by the soon to be busiest airport in Mindanao (Laguindingan)

Link please. :lol:

^^

The guy must be in la la land when he said that or he was simply an ignorant fella. :lol:

^^
I'm sure, may supalpal na naman in a few years time. :lol:

^^

No need, Dar. Dati na namang supalpal yon eh. :lol:

^^ link mga goys. :D

Pastor's hangar? Sagabal ang gihimong taxiway nila no in case himuan na jud ug parallel taxiway ang DIA no? Mademolish lang tingali na.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4143/4779842330_bf55c8c716_b.jpg

March 2010 ata ni.

Domestic

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4134/4779208949_e3fa72b10f_b.jpg

International

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4076/4779209511_6e0c1d41f2_b.jpg

LCD unta ni no?

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4143/4779211019_675cd64ce1_b.jpg

Jose Maria College

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4080/4779845218_581e2bcb0c_b.jpg

CP Garcia (Diversion Road) DIA Portion. Ani unta tanan calle sa Davao no?

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4143/4779845650_f6a4d35207_b.jpg

[QUOTE=psionic;60080223]Pastor's hangar? Sagabal ang gihimong taxiway nila no in case himuan na jud ug parallel taxiway ang DIA no? Mademolish lang tingali na.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4143/4779842330_bf55c8c716_b.jpg


ngano gitugtan man sad nang hanggar ni quiboloy nga tukoron dha dapita...

http://www.phoenixphilippines.com/photo/pnx_into_plane.jpg

Pastor's hangar? Sagabal ang gihimong taxiway nila no in case himuan na jud ug parallel taxiway ang DIA no? Mademolish lang tingali na.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4143/4779842330_bf55c8c716_b.jpg

March 2010 ata ni.

Domestic

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4134/4779208949_e3fa72b10f_b.jpg

International

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4076/4779209511_6e0c1d41f2_b.jpg

LCD unta ni no?

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Jose Maria College

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CP Garcia (Diversion Road) DIA Portion. Ani unta tanan calle sa Davao no?

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dyan ako sa may kanto na yan naghihintay ng bus paputang tagum

Pastor's hangar? Sagabal ang gihimong taxiway nila no in case himuan na jud ug parallel taxiway ang DIA no? Mademolish lang tingali na.

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March 2010 ata ni

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LCD unta ni no?

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Jose Maria College

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CP Garcia (Diversion Road) DIA Portion. Ani unta tanan calle sa Davao no?

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the positioning of the taxiway of quiboloy is correct. when the parallel taxiway for the DIA will start to be constructed, quiboloys, taxiway will just be widened. so hindi ito sabagal. hindi ito madedemolish.

[QUOTE=psionic;60080223]Pastor's hangar? Sagabal ang gihimong taxiway nila no in case himuan na jud ug parallel taxiway ang DIA no? Mademolish lang tingali na.

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ngano gitugtan man sad nang hanggar ni quiboloy nga tukoron dha dapita...

the reason why is because he owns the land there. the location of the pastors hangar is outside the property of the DIA. the only thing that is inside the propert of the DIA is the taxiway. so technically even if the pastor himself funded the construction of the taxiway, the taxiway is owned by the DIA. the pastor will only pay the fees when he uses the taxiway, ramp, etc.

Correct. The hangar is technically inside Quiboloy's land not of DIA, therefore he has all the legal right to put up building in there until expropriation comes for the taxiway. The ramp will have to go later on.

^^
sir, is a RADAR system in the pipleine for the DIA to cover the eastern to southern portion of mindanao?

Correct. The hangar is technically inside Quiboloy's land not of DIA, therefore he has all the legal right to put up building in there until expropriation comes for the taxiway. The ramp will have to go later on.

Isn't DIA's property line aligned with that asphalt taxiway parallel to DIA's tarmac?I thought Quiboloy's taxiway is already aligned with the future parallel taxiway.

^^
sir, is a RADAR system in the pipleine for the DIA to cover the eastern to southern portion of mindanao?
Its part of the $70 million Communications, Navigation and Surveillance/Air Traffic Management (CNS/ATM) project of the Department of Transportation and Communications (DOTC) Phase 1. The other package is phase 2 worth $200 million.

Sadly, it never left off the ground since it was conceived ten years ago. It should have been up and running in 2008 but funding problems pushed its bidding only in April 2010.

Three companies bidded for the radar systems, which include that of DIA, (the others being Zamboanga and Palawan), namely Thales(Sumitomo-Thales), Selex(Selex-Kanematsu), and Marubeni. Thales won. The same company that brought NAIA's new ILS.

The project implementation was however delayed further because of the contest of the losing bidders, which apparently cannot raise $22 million bond to finance the project, the same problem that plagued PIATCO prompting it to call Fraport. That is why JICA disqualified it.

After some leg-pulling, the project was re-bid, all because the new administration is calling for it. Not that there was corruption in it but because the new administration just want to make sure its clean when it already was.

Waste of time if you asked me. Assuming all systems go, it will be up and running in 2012, a time for the FAA upgrade.

Did you know that this project is tied with the FAA CAT 1 upgrade? According to the planning designs of ICAO, CNS/ATM should be broadly used in the Asia-Pacific Region by 2005. We are supposed to be on-line by 2007.

Until this is installed, expect the FAA not to listen.

Isn't DIA's property line aligned with that asphalt taxiway parallel to DIA's tarmac?I thought Quiboloy's taxiway is already aligned with the future parallel taxiway.

It is. What I'm trying to say is that the hangar falls within the expansion zone of the airport's terminal that it will have to be appropriated later to accommodate such development.

The taxiway going to Quiboloy's hangar is also subgrade since it cannot carry the load of the A330 and up. They will have to be removed and replaced with an equivalent PCN (pavement classification number) strength taxiway.

^^ AFAIK, Davao airspace is currently controlled over at Mactan Control Area for FL200 and above.. Davao only has TMA (Terminal Control Area) during approach and departures..

Anyway please clarify me with on this..

I guess it would be more appropriate to put an Control Area at Davao to cover Mindanao airspace..

^^ pero nasa dulo na ng Mindanao ang Davao, di ba factor yun against putting up such a facility in Davao?

^^ AFAIK, Davao airspace is currently controlled over at Mactan Control Area for FL200 and above.. Davao only has TMA (Terminal Control Area) during approach and departures..

Anyway please clarify me with on this..

I guess it would be more appropriate to put an Control Area at Davao to cover Mindanao airspace..

Yes. It still is.

How would you put a control area without seeing anything?

;60228511']^^ pero nasa dulo na ng Mindanao ang Davao, di ba factor yun against putting up such a facility in Davao?

kaya nga davao, zambo and palawan ang lagyan eh...para covered lahat.

sir arian, what is the difference between AWOS, ASOS, and AMOS?

DIA has ATIS, dba? is this more advanced than the three above?

Way advance than you think. Its considered an airport luxury to have those automated weather system. Technically though we dont need the Automated Weather Observing System (AWOS), or the Automated Surface Observing System (ASOS) for an archipelagic nation like ours. They find the equipment more useful on mainland continent where weather plays extreme like Texas. Remember, the MD-82 crash in Arkansas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_Flight_1420) or the Air France A340 crash at Toronto (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_France_Flight_358). I forget the other one which is weather related that made the aircraft crash before the runway because of downdraft, I think it was PAN AM flight (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan_Am_Flight_759) which made those automation possible.

Even PAG-ASA is trying desperately hard to have its own radar commissioned for accurate typhoon warning, how much more our airports when having a decent navigational equipments take decades to even be bought and put in place, for example the radar i just talked about.

By the way the difference between the two is that the former concerns itself on the particular weather conditions on approach that might affect descent, while the latter is in the runway itself. ATIS on the other hand tells you the general weather at the airport.

Way advance than you think. Its considered an airport luxury to have those automated weather system. Technically though we dont need the Automated Weather Observing System (AWOS), or the Automated Surface Observing System (ASOS) for an archipelagic nation like ours. They find the equipment more useful on mainland continent where weather plays extreme like Texas. Remember, the MD-82 crash in Arkansas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_Flight_1420) or the Air France A340 crash at Toronto (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_France_Flight_358). I forget the other one which is weather related that made the aircraft crash before the runway because of downdraft, I think it was PAN AM flight (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan_Am_Flight_759) which made those automation possible.

Even PAG-ASA is trying desperately hard to have its own radar commissioned for accurate typhoon warning, how much more our airports when having a decent navigational equipments take decades to even be bought and put in place, for example the radar i just talked about.

By the way the difference between the two is that the former concerns itself on the particular weather conditions on approach that might affect descent, while the latter is in the runway itself. ATIS on the other hand tells you the general weather at the airport.

thanks sir. now i know the difference between the AWOS and ASOS.

how about the AMOS or air meteoroligical observation system? i read somewhere that the new airport in cdo will have one. but it wont have an ATIS. will the AMOS be the substitute for the ATIS?

Same bird. Different name.

Don't get me wrong. AWOS and ASOS is technologocally a better equipment that even our government can't afford to buy. Its like the F-22 of fighter planes as compared to the lowly F-5. But they do almost the same job were it not for the stealth technology.

Way advance than you think. Its considered an airport luxury to have those automated weather system. Technically though we dont need the Automated Weather Observing System (AWOS), or the Automated Surface Observing System (ASOS) for an archipelagic nation like ours. They find the equipment more useful on mainland continent where weather plays extreme like Texas. Remember, the MD-82 crash in Arkansas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_Flight_1420) or the Air France A340 crash at Toronto (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_France_Flight_358). I forget the other one which is weather related that made the aircraft crash before the runway because of downdraft, I think it was PAN AM flight (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan_Am_Flight_759) which made those automation possible.

Even PAG-ASA is trying desperately hard to have its own radar commissioned for accurate typhoon warning, how much more our airports when having a decent navigational equipments take decades to even be bought and put in place, for example the radar i just talked about.

By the way the difference between the two is that the former concerns itself on the particular weather conditions on approach that might affect descent, while the latter is in the runway itself. ATIS on the other hand tells you the general weather at the airport.

No doubt, Philippine weather disturbances are consistently typhoons whose paths can be determined. Plains here in North America are so unpredictable and these thunderstorms are fast moving and can wreck havoc(lightning, tornadoes, wind) all within an hour then its gone. That Air France in Toronto was aware courtesy of these high tech radars but the pilot opted to land anyways, while some diverted right away to nearby Hamilton and Ottawa. It landed past the 1/3 touchdown zone and hydroplaned on the wet runway; of course braking was futile so it ended on the ditch past the threshold, a wing caught fire but it was a textbook evacuation within 2 minutes that saved all passengers. It was believed an updraft caused it to lift again during finals causing it to miss the safe touchdown zone. If I remember, it conducted 2 missed approaches before the pilot became confident on the third try. Well, what about that PAL in Butuan and Bacolod; weather was fine wasn't it?

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nice photos there.....

^^really nice photos...

ganda pa rin ng davao airport...

Davao International Airport
July 19, 2010

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^^

What time was this flight?

AirPhil undergoes major changes, launches promos
Home » Sun.Star Davao » Business
Monday, July 19, 2010
By Marie Angeli A. Laxa



AFTER being tagged as the airline, which flew one of the greatest air disasters in the country in 2000, Air Philippines is now reinventing the company's image, aiming to entice passengers with its low-cost flights and great customer service.

For a start, the airline changed its name to AirPhil Express. "This is the 'Big Change,'" said Maria Java, the airline's marketing head.

"We don't deal with our past manufacturer anymore," Java said.

AirPhil Express team, composed of Java, Southern Philippines area head Roland Salaver, and OIC of Sales Snooker Jaranilla, boasted of their highly-reliable and ultra-comfortable new fleet of planes.

"As of now, we have three 50-seater Q300s, five 76-seater Q400s and 2 177-seater Airbus A320s, manufactured in France and Germany" Jaranilla said.

"By October, we are adding the A320s. By the end of the year, we will add another four. Next year, we are going to have another six Airbus planes," he added.

AirPhil Express currently has 568 flights a week, primarily from their Manila and Cebu hubs. They will be launching their Davao-Manila (P800) and Cebu-Manila (P600) flights on July 21 and its Davao hub is expected to open next year.


The airlines have seasonal promos such as Express Sales, Frideals, 20-kilo free baggage allowance, and even P1 fare.

Aside from the competitive promos, they are also looking into extensive advertisement.

"Noise in the media is what the consumer wants," Java said. "We are really serious in localizing our advertisements."

When asked about the complaints other airlines have been getting regarding their customer service, Java replied: "We consider ourselves a low-cost carrier but at the end of the day, we would like to be known as an airline of great customer service."

Airphil Express to increase number of flights to Davao
Business World
Corporate News
Posted on 09:33 PM, July 19, 2010



DAVAO CITY -- Air Philippines Express is resuming its daily flights to this city on Wednesday and will have three low-fare Davao-Manila flights starting in October, company officials said.


Air Philippines Boeing 737 -- www.wikipedia.org“We are a low-cost airline but that does not mean that we are the cheapest,” said Maria R. Java, marketing, media, e-commerce and product head of the company.

“We assure our customers that they will get the value of their money,” she added.

The company suspended its Davao operations on Oct. 1, 2009 due to economic reasons. With the resumption of the Davao flights, Air Philippines is offering an P800 fare for its Davao-Manila route and P600 for its Cebu-Manila route.

A regular discounted ticket for a Davao-Manila flight costs about P2,500.

Ms. Java said the airline has invested heavily in its fleet. The fleet includes two 180-seater Airbus A320s with one servicing the Davao-Manila route.

Some of its aircraft, particularly the Q300s and Q400s, are slightly older but are well-maintained, she added.

The budget airline will add six Airbus A320 units next year, said Snooker D. Jaranilla, company sales head, adding it hopes to double its destinations from 24 this year to 48 next year.

Air Philippines is also looking at servicing the Manila-Singapore route, Mr. Jaranilla said.

Ms. Java added that the company, a sister firm of Philippine Airlines which has five daily flights from this city, is finalizing its plan to make the Davao International Airport its Mindanao hub.

“We might launch the [Davao] hub next year,” she said.

If this plan pushes through, the company will consider the possibility of servicing the Davao-Singapore and the Davao-Malaysia routes.

Ms. Java said the company has been studying these routes as it continues to look for other Mindanao routes to service.

“We want to be part of the community. We want to be known as a community-based airline,” she added, pointing out that the re-launching of the company did not only mean a repackaging but also a change in the management team.

“Air Philippines Express is in a unique position. We have a history of deliberate attentive service to uphold yet we intend to meet our customers’ expectations of efficiency, as is expected by most businesses today,” she said.

The company figured in an accident on April 19, 2000 when Flight 541 from Manila to Davao crashed on Samal Island, killing all 131 people on board.

Considered the worst plane crash in this part of the world, it was blamed on a 20-year-old aircraft leased from an American firm.

Three years ago, an out-of-court settlement resulted in an agreement that gave out roughly $1 million in cash for each of the family’s victims. -- Carmelito Q. Francisco

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July 19, 2010

BOEING 747-400 at Davao today; my flight to Manila

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i was on the pr 811 flight yesterday...744...

^^

What time was this flight?

^^12:20 PM, but the flight was not full of passengers

Airphil Express to increase number of flights to Davao

:cheers:

mag-station sila ng plane (A320/Q400/Q300) din like 5Js been doing here?

^^12:20 PM, but the flight was not full of passengers

but 811, was full. even mabuhay class (up and down) was full.

^^12:20 PM, but the flight was not full of passengers

Thanks. I was always trying my luck with these planes coming in or out of Davao but I still have to find my luck.:)

^^12:20 PM, but the flight was not full of passengers

Siguro papuntang Davao, puno. Pabalik ng Manila, medyo puno.

:cheers:

mag-station sila ng plane (A320/Q400/Q300) din like 5Js been doing here?

may mga naka station na pala na mga 5j aircrafts sa davao? are they gonna re open the davao-sg and davaoo-hk?

may mga naka station na pala na mga 5j aircrafts sa davao? are they gonna re open the davao-sg and davaoo-hk?

they will re station some 320's/319's/atr's here come october or november or when their new aircrafts arrive.

but this re stationing does not mean that there will be a resumption agad sa regional flights of 5j here in davao. but it does mean that some additional flights will originate from davao and will terminate in davao.

now with the planned hub that 2P is going to establish at the DIA, maybe 5J will hasted their re-sationing or re-deployment of their aircraft here in davao.

now with the planned hub that 2P is going to establish at the DIA, maybe 5J will hasted their re-sationing or re-deployment of their aircraft here in davao.
Interesting, will 2p deploy q400 and compete with 5j in CDO?

Interesting, will 2p deploy q400 and compete with 5j in CDO?

if 5J do station some of their ATR's at the DIA, then maybe 2P will also. but with only a handful of q400's and q300's, i don't see it happening very soon.

Business World
Corporate News
Posted on 09:01 PM, July 21, 2010
Re-branded budget airline wants share to double this year


CEBU CITY -- With its re-branding and aggressive marketing campaign, Philippine Airlines’ low-cost unit Airphil Express wants to double its market share by the end of this year.

The airline, formerly Air Philippines and PAL Express, estimates its current share at 15%, nearly double its 8% share before the re-branding, said Maria R. Java, head of marketing, media and product.

“Our target is to double this (15%) by the end of this year. Anything beyond that is a stretch,” Ms. Java said. She and other Airphil Express executives flew to Cebu from Davao to re-introduce the low-cost airline and launch the Cebu-Manila and Davao-Manila links, initially with night flight schedules using an Airbus A320, effective July 21.

Ms. Java said Airphil Express would offer low-cost flights in unserved routes as one of the strategies to increase market share. The airline currently flies to 24 domestic destinations from its Manila and Cebu hubs.

“We don’t have to eat into somebody’s share. There are just too many unserved markets. We need to be where the people need us,” she added.

Under consideration is a Cebu-Cagayan de Oro-Zamboanga link.

Additional Cebu-Manila and Davao-Manila flights will be introduced in October, upon the arrival of additional Airbus planes.

The carrier is also considering direct flights to Singapore from either Cebu or Davao and transferring some international flights from Manila to either Cebu or Caticlan, Ms. Java said.

The airline is also improving operational efficiencies and addressing customer concerns to lure more passengers, as well as exploring other cash payment options to promote its online reservations system.

“We’re still reliant on ticket offices for the bulk of our business, but we want to make available more payment options,” Ms. Java said.

Airphil Express has tied up with Bancnet, Western Union, and G-Cash to provide payment options to customers. -- Marites S. Villamor

Hello, everyone..I think DIA is not yet ready to accomodate A380..

I read somewhere that airport needs to consider the runway width for NLA(New Large Aircraft) like A380.

newbie here.

Hello, everyone..I think DIA is not yet ready to accomodate A380..

I read somewhere that airport needs to consider the runway width for NLA(New Large Aircraft) like A380.

newbie here.

minimum requirement for the width of the runway to accommodate the a380 is 45 meters plus the 7.5 meters overrun on each side of the runway. this translates to 60 meters.

DIA's runway width is 45 meters plus the 7.5 meters overrun on each side equals 60 meters.

so the width of the runway of the dia is a380 capable.

what is not permitted is the width of 45 meters without the overrun.

and hindi a380 capable any ang handling capabilities sa terminal ng DIA. the plane that can be accommodated at the terminal among others are the 747-400, 777-300ER, A340-300, A330-300 and the other planes.

sir xzibit: any news po about DIA parallel runway?

sir xzibit: any news po about DIA parallel runway?

as per sir arian, the plans are with neda already. we will just have to wait.

^^ keeping my fingers crossed

i believe you failed to mention that dia is also one of the alternative landing sites of the space shuttle (should it fly off-course)... asa ba nako to nabasahan nga sa philippines murag upat tingali ang gi-designate sa nasa clark, naia, mcia ug dvo (?)... :D


minimum requirement for the width of the runway to accommodate the a380 is 45 meters plus the 7.5 meters overrun on each side of the runway. this translates to 60 meters.

DIA's runway width is 45 meters plus the 7.5 meters overrun on each side equals 60 meters.

so the width of the runway of the dia is a380 capable.

what is not permitted is the width of 45 meters without the overrun.

and hindi a380 capable any ang handling capabilities sa terminal ng DIA. the plane that can be accommodated at the terminal among others are the 747-400, 777-300ER, A340-300, A330-300 and the other planes.

i believe you failed to mention that dia is also one of the alternative landing sites of the space shuttle (should it fly off-course)... asa ba nako to nabasahan nga sa philippines murag upat tingali ang gi-designate sa nasa clark, naia, mcia ug dvo (?)... :D

abi nakog metro shuttle! :rofl:

abi nakog metro shuttle! :rofl:

yati, nag trying hard nakoq katkat ngari.... ayaw koq pugngi :bash: :lol:

minimum requirement for the width of the runway to accommodate the a380 is 45 meters plus the 7.5 meters overrun on each side of the runway. this translates to 60 meters.

DIA's runway width is 45 meters plus the 7.5 meters overrun on each side equals 60 meters.

so the width of the runway of the dia is a380 capable.

what is not permitted is the width of 45 meters without the overrun.

and hindi a380 capable any ang handling capabilities sa terminal ng DIA. the plane that can be accommodated at the terminal among others are the 747-400, 777-300ER, A340-300, A330-300 and the other planes.

Hi Pao, is the parallel runway one and the same with the planned taxi way or they are 2 different things?

yati, nag trying hard nakoq katkat ngari.... ayaw koq pugngi :bash: :lol:



Mao Jude, wala pud koy alamag aning mga plane plane nga ni basta ako pag dagko nga plane okay kaayo mosakay ana. :rofl:

Hi Pao, is the parallel runway one and the same with the planned taxi way or they are 2 different things?

same thing...when the construction of the taxiway begins, the expansion of the terminal will start also.

^^

Thanks. I'm really looking forward to it. :)

minimum requirement for the width of the runway to accommodate the a380 is 45 meters plus the 7.5 meters overrun on each side of the runway. this translates to 60 meters.

DIA's runway width is 45 meters plus the 7.5 meters overrun on each side equals 60 meters.

so the width of the runway of the dia is a380 capable.

what is not permitted is the width of 45 meters without the overrun.

and hindi a380 capable any ang handling capabilities sa terminal ng DIA. the plane that can be accommodated at the terminal among others are the 747-400, 777-300ER, A340-300, A330-300 and the other planes.

Thanks for the info sir.

Keep updating us with regard to DIA sir..

kumusta ang mga flights for davao? affected ba by the recent crisis?

sir xzibit: any news po about DIA parallel runway?

I dont think DVO need a parrallel runway yet. a parrallel taxiway would probably be needed in the short term but another runway wouldnt be needed anytime soon..May not even be needed at all until such a time that the airport is so congested that the terminal has been expanded to a much larger one

sir xzibit: any news po about DIA parallel runway?

as per sir arian, the plans are with neda already. we will just have to wait.

sorry. what i meant was the parallel taxiway and not a parallel runway. there is no more room for another runway at the present DIA. but there is already land appropriated for the parallel taxiway.

sorry. what i meant was the parallel taxiway and not a parallel runway. there is no more room for another runway at the present DIA. but there is already land appropriated for the parallel taxiway.


thanks sir for that clarificatory post.

kumusta ang mga flights for davao? affected ba by the recent crisis?

AFAIK, walang pilots of PAL servicing Davao ang mga nagsi resign, most of them who quit fly to Cebu, Iloilo and CDO, that's what I heard sa news...

thanks franz for the info...that's a consoling news indeed.

AFAIK, walang pilots of PAL servicing Davao ang mga nagsi resign, most of them who quit fly to Cebu, Iloilo and CDO, that's what I heard sa news...

yeah. because almost all of the flights to Davao is being serviced by wide bodies. the airports that are severely affected by the cancellations are the airports that are serviced by narrow bodies.

minimum requirement for the width of the runway to accommodate the a380 is 45 meters plus the 7.5 meters overrun on each side of the runway. this translates to 60 meters.

DIA's runway width is 45 meters plus the 7.5 meters overrun on each side equals 60 meters.

so the width of the runway of the dia is a380 capable.

what is not permitted is the width of 45 meters without the overrun.

and hindi a380 capable any ang handling capabilities sa terminal ng DIA. the plane that can be accommodated at the terminal among others are the 747-400, 777-300ER, A340-300, A330-300 and the other planes.
The runway overrun or blastpad is the surface after the threshold( piano keys). That 7.5m is the paved shoulder after the white sidelines if it pertains to the 45m width runway.

The runway overrun or blastpad is the surface after the threshold( piano keys). That 7.5m is the paved shoulder after the white sidelines if it pertains to the 45m width runway.

yup. that was what i meant...hehehehe....:lol:

pero bakit sa naia, after the white line on the sides of the runway, lupa agad. sa davao, may 7.5 meter paved shoulder pa?

yup. that was what i meant...hehehehe....:lol:

pero bakit sa naia, after the white line on the sides of the runway, lupa agad. sa davao, may 7.5 meter paved shoulder pa?

http://www.wikimapia.org/#lat=14.5055298&lon=121.0076666&z=15&l=0&m=s

pansin ko lng mas malawak ang distansya ng runway to taxiway sa cebu kaysa NAIA..

Ano ba ang minimum required distance from runway to taxiway?

http://www.wikimapia.org/#lat=14.5055298&lon=121.0076666&z=15&l=0&m=s

pansin ko lng mas malawak ang distansya ng runway to taxiway sa cebu kaysa NAIA..

Ano ba ang minimum required distance from runway to taxiway?


from the centerline of the runway to the centerline of the taxiway, it should be around 180 meters.

Published in the Sun.Star Cebu newspaper on August 9, 2010.

Airline halts Cebu to Davao flights:ohno:

PHILIPPINE Airlines (PAL) will suspend its Cebu-Davao-Cebu flights beginning today until Nov. 30, 2010, as newly resigned pilots continued to stay away.

The last Davao-bound flight from Cebu, PR 409, took off at 8:15 a.m. yesterday. Its return flight, PR 410, arrived in Mactan at 10:44 a.m.

Updates on President Benigno Aquino III's presidency

A written notice from the company said these flights will be suspended, starting today, said Arnie Follosco, PAL control station manager at the Mactan Cebu International Airport.

A report aired by radio station DyAB cited low bookings as one reason for the suspension.

Follosco said the official notice did not state that reason. He also revealed the last flight had 114 passengers, below the Airbus 330’s capacity of 156, plus two flight deck crew and a four-member cabin crew.

The notice did not confirm whether the flight will resume on Dec. 1.

“That’s the only information we’ve got from our superiors in Manila. That’s all we can tell you,” Follosco said.

Jonathan Gesmundo of the PAL corporate communications department and Simuon Canton Jr. of PAL Cebu could not be reached yesterday for details.

Last week, Gesmundo said the management was trying to continue a dialogue with 25 resigned pilots, in the hope they will agree to return to work.

Eutiquio Bulambot, director of the Philippine Airlines Employees Association (PALEA) based in Mactan, has said the pilots resigned due to the lack of job security and the availability of higher-paying jobs abroad.

Businessman Robert Go, past president of the Cebu Chamber of Commerce and Industry, said he hopes the suspension of the Cebu-Davao-Cebu PAL flight will not affect passenger movement too much, because there are still similar flights operated by Cebu Pacific and a PAL sister-company, Air Philippines.

In its website, PAL said flight operations returned to normal as of Aug. 3, after it rescheduled one daily flight each to Iloilo, Bacolod and Cagayan de Oro. It also said its average of 160 domestic and international flights per day “continue to operate normally and as scheduled.” (EOB)

^^ temporary lang until new pilots would fill in the empty A320s...dunnow~

cebu-davao flights will be suspended from aug 9 to nov 30 only. flights will resume on dec 1.

i talked with my travel agent yesterday. she said that they are still selling flights for the ceb-dvo route as long as it is dec1 and beyond.

Government to declare open skies policy for RP
Top News
Written by Manuel T. Cayon / Reporter

DAVAO CITY—In a move that could worsen the situation of local carriers, especially Philippine Airlines, the Aquino administration is expected to declare soon an open-skies policy as a strategy for boosting tourism.

The revelation of the plan, reportedly with the backing of Tourism Secretary Alberto Lim, was revealed here by Narzalina Z. Lim, who served as Tourism chief under Presidents Corazon Aquino and Fidel Ramos.

The policy statement is expected to be made soon, according to Ms. Lim, after the economic managers met last week to discuss a range of tourism-related topics, including the declaration of the country’s air space as open to international access.

Currently the general manager of the Marketing Representative-Philippines that handles the tourism promotion of Macau’s Government Tourist Office, Ms. Lim told reporters at the Marco Polo Hotel here that she was informed of the new policy position by Secretary Lim. The former chairman of the Makati Business Club informed her of the consensus of Mr. Aquino’s economic managers and said that it would be announced very soon.

Earlier, a citizens’ group opposed to unbridled open skies had assailed Secretary Lim’s recent statements pitching open skies, saying the policy would be lopsidedly in favor of foreign carriers that already enjoy subsidies from their governments.

Ms. Lim, however, said the open-skies policy is hoped to rejuvenate the untapped facilities of upgraded international airports in the country, including that of Davao City. There had been hopes of transforming Mindanao into the southern doorway to direct international travel, and to spread the economic benefits to the rest of Southern Philippines.

“You have a very good international airport here, yet this is not being utilized to its full potential as an international port,” she told reporters in a briefing meant to further drumbeat travel to Macau, where Filipinos have become the seventh on the list of nationalities frequenting this casino gaming and amusement center in Asia.

The farthest that the Philippines has toyed with opening its skies was granting only the fifth- freedom rights to foreign airlines, a permission to allow non-Philippine commercial aircraft to pick up passengers and cargo only in ports of call.

The Brunei, Indonesia, Malaysia, the Philippines-East Asean Growth Area (BIMP-Eaga) has been advocating open skies, a call it made to the four governments comprising the subregion in its Roadmap to Development 2006–10.

In that call, the senior ministers representing their respective countries to the BIMP-Eaga said they agreed “to allow multiple designation of airlines, as well as respectively designate selected two Eaga entry points by end of 2006 and subsequently all Eaga entry points by 2008 with fifth-freedom traffic rights for scheduled passenger services.”

Meanwhile, Ms. Lim said she hoped that the new open-skies policy would help boost the operation of more international-quality airports to accommodate more direct international flights, including that of a possible Davao City-Macau flight.

So far, only the Naia and Clark airports are serving direct flights to Macau.

She said Filipinos were the seventh most traveled nationalities to Macau, at 262,000 visitors last year, mostly on amusement, entertainment and adventure destinations. She said it was difficult to keep tab of Filipinos going to the casinos “because while we do not promote gaming and gambling, some of our rich Filipinos go there secretly,” though “generally, they are for entertainment and leisure.”

She said her office, which does the promotion for Macau, would like to tap the still large market of Filipinos wanting to go to Macau.

Carol Bacaltos of the Durian Travel and Tours agency here said they get an average of five inquiries daily for travel to Macau. “It’s usually Hong Kong, Macau, Singapore and Malaysia,” she said.


source (http://www.businessmirror.com.ph/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=28766:government-to-declare-open-skies-policy-for-rp&catid=23:topnews&Itemid=58)

Government to declare open skies policy for RP
Top News
Written by Manuel T. Cayon / Reporter

DAVAO CITY—In a move that could worsen the situation of local carriers, especially Philippine Airlines, the Aquino administration is expected to declare soon an open-skies policy as a strategy for boosting tourism.

The revelation of the plan, reportedly with the backing of Tourism Secretary Alberto Lim, was revealed here by Narzalina Z. Lim, who served as Tourism chief under Presidents Corazon Aquino and Fidel Ramos.

The policy statement is expected to be made soon, according to Ms. Lim, after the economic managers met last week to discuss a range of tourism-related topics, including the declaration of the country’s air space as open to international access.

Currently the general manager of the Marketing Representative-Philippines that handles the tourism promotion of Macau’s Government Tourist Office, Ms. Lim told reporters at the Marco Polo Hotel here that she was informed of the new policy position by Secretary Lim. The former chairman of the Makati Business Club informed her of the consensus of Mr. Aquino’s economic managers and said that it would be announced very soon.

Earlier, a citizens’ group opposed to unbridled open skies had assailed Secretary Lim’s recent statements pitching open skies, saying the policy would be lopsidedly in favor of foreign carriers that already enjoy subsidies from their governments.

Ms. Lim, however, said the open-skies policy is hoped to rejuvenate the untapped facilities of upgraded international airports in the country, including that of Davao City. There had been hopes of transforming Mindanao into the southern doorway to direct international travel, and to spread the economic benefits to the rest of Southern Philippines.

“You have a very good international airport here, yet this is not being utilized to its full potential as an international port,” she told reporters in a briefing meant to further drumbeat travel to Macau, where Filipinos have become the seventh on the list of nationalities frequenting this casino gaming and amusement center in Asia.

The farthest that the Philippines has toyed with opening its skies was granting only the fifth- freedom rights to foreign airlines, a permission to allow non-Philippine commercial aircraft to pick up passengers and cargo only in ports of call.

The Brunei, Indonesia, Malaysia, the Philippines-East Asean Growth Area (BIMP-Eaga) has been advocating open skies, a call it made to the four governments comprising the subregion in its Roadmap to Development 2006–10.

In that call, the senior ministers representing their respective countries to the BIMP-Eaga said they agreed “to allow multiple designation of airlines, as well as respectively designate selected two Eaga entry points by end of 2006 and subsequently all Eaga entry points by 2008 with fifth-freedom traffic rights for scheduled passenger services.”

Meanwhile, Ms. Lim said she hoped that the new open-skies policy would help boost the operation of more international-quality airports to accommodate more direct international flights, including that of a possible Davao City-Macau flight.

So far, only the Naia and Clark airports are serving direct flights to Macau.

She said Filipinos were the seventh most traveled nationalities to Macau, at 262,000 visitors last year, mostly on amusement, entertainment and adventure destinations. She said it was difficult to keep tab of Filipinos going to the casinos “because while we do not promote gaming and gambling, some of our rich Filipinos go there secretly,” though “generally, they are for entertainment and leisure.”

She said her office, which does the promotion for Macau, would like to tap the still large market of Filipinos wanting to go to Macau.

Carol Bacaltos of the Durian Travel and Tours agency here said they get an average of five inquiries daily for travel to Macau. “It’s usually Hong Kong, Macau, Singapore and Malaysia,” she said.


source (http://www.businessmirror.com.ph/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=28766:government-to-declare-open-skies-policy-for-rp&catid=23:topnews&Itemid=58)

sana nga. that open-skies policy has been planned since...i really dot remember when. PAL, BUPAC, AIRPHIL, were the ones who vehemently opposed that measure. takot kasi mawalan ng pasahero....

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Filipino tourist arrivals in Macau continue to grow
Tuesday, August 10, 2010
By Nelson C. Bagaforo


FILIPINO tourist arrival in Macau have continued to grow at an average annual growth of 20 percent since 1998, making the country as among top generating markets to China's Special Administrative Region.

This, according to Narzalina Lim, general manager of Macau Government Tourism Office-Philippines, whose team arrived in Davao City Friday for a five-day visit to promote Macau and met with Davao Region's tourism stakeholders, corporate partners and the media.

From January to May this year, Lim said Tuesday the Philippines was seventh on the list of the Top 10 Visitor Generating Markets of Macau, ranking higher than Thailand and Singapore.

During the same period, Filipino visitors to Macau totaled 113,473, representing an increase of 5.5 percent as compared to the same period last year. For the same period, total tourist arrivals in Macau have already exceeded the 10 million mark with 10,325,051 tourist arrivals, representing a 15.8 percent increase over last year's figures for the same period.

Mainland China accounted for 53.5 percent of that total, the number representing an increase of almost a quarter over the previous years.

Filipino tourists, Lim said, have continued to visit Macau because of its accessibility and affordability with two Philippine-based airlines -- PAL and Cebu Pacific -- offering direct flights to Macau from Manila and Clark, at the same time offering cheap promotional packages.

For instance, the Macau tourism office, reported that Cebu Pacific is presently offering less than P15,000 promo package that includes three-day, two-night accommodation, with free breakfast at Macau's East Asia Hotel and with free city tour.

But with the implementation of the "open skies" policy, which will be announced soon by the Aquino administration, more Filipinos are expected to visit Macau, particularly travelers from Davao Region and its nearby provinces.

"With the open skies policy in place, more airlines will be servicing the Philippine-Macau route and these airlines will surely utilize the Davao City Airport," she said.

"There's a market here. That's not a problem," she said.

Lim added that Macau is not all about gambling.

Lim said Macau also boasts of its destinations, culture, heritage, world-class events and adventures.

"We don't promote gambling. Gamblers just go to Macau," she said.

For the traveler eager to take in some unique cultural experience, Lim said there is no better place to start than Macau's historic center, declared as World Heritage Site. It is a reflection of the centuries of cultural exchange between East and West.

She also made mention of the upcoming water-based extravaganza, "The House of Dancing Water", which is set to open on September 7 at the awe-inspiring 2,000 seat Dancing Water Theater at the City of Dreams, an integrated entertainment resort that is the newest must-experience destination in Macau developed by Melco Crown Entertainment Ltd.

The show will feature dazzling costumes and amazing audio and visual special effects.

The robust state of Macau's tourism industry has spurred even more new investments not only in tourist attractions but also in world class convention and exhibition facilities which explains the hotel occupancy already hitting 84.2 percent in the 1st quarter of the year.

Furthermore, the city has already hosted 397 meetings, incentives, conventions and exhibitions for the same period, an increase of 4.2 percent over the figure for the same time last year.

Between 2009 and 2010 at least four more tourist facilities -- the City of Dreams, and integrated resort and L'Arc, Encore at Wynn and the Mandarin Oriental - all upscale hotels - opened in this Special Administrative Regions of China.

While Macau's historic past and colorful blend of Chinese and Portuguese cultures are what gives the city its unique charm, it continues to invest in new and more varied tourist attractions and world class facilities to make it an even more interesting travel destination.

Published in the Sun.Star Davao newspaper on August 11, 2010.

^^ I'm going to Davao next week(via ZestAir) for a second time and Kadayawan ulit hehe.. Excited to see again your beautiful airport and city.:cheers:

^^welcome bro... :banana:

Davao-Macau direct flight
likely with open sky policy
Mindanao Daily Mirror
BY JUDY QUIROS
August 12, 2010

Plans to have a direct flight from Davao City to Macau will probably push through with the impending announcement by the Philippine government of an open sky policy.

Macau Government Tourism Office-Philippines general manager Narzalina Lim told reporters last Tuesday that Tourism Secretary Alberto Lim informed her last week that “open sky” is the Philippine government and that an announcement on it would be made soon.

Lim said a direct flight to and from Davao City and Macau will boost the tourism industry of both areas.

She said Chinese tourists can explore Davao and Mindanao’s beaches via the Davao International Airport. She also said many Macanese are rich and can do much to push Davao City’s tourism industry.

Aside from beaches, the exotic culture of Mindanao, its indigenous peoples, nature and culture can be an attraction for the Macanese and the Chinese people.

Lim, however, said due to lack of information about the Philippines, Macanese seldom go to the country.

“They seldom go to Mindanao because of advisories. The challenge to generate more information about Davao and Mindanao’s tourist destination has to be maximized to capture the Macanese market,” she said.

For its part, the Philippines is among the top ten generating markets to Macau.

From January to May this year, the Philippines was seventh on the list of the Top 10 Visitor Generating Markets of Macau. It ranks higher that Thailand and Singapore, Lim added.

During this year’s five-month period, Filipino visitors to Macau totaled 113,473, accounting for an increase of 5.5 percent over the numbers for the same period last year, Lim said.

She said Macau’s historic past and colorful blend of Chinese and Portuguese cultures are what gives the city its unique charm.

Macau used to be known for gambling but packs within its borders historical, religious and cultural treasures, she added

“Now Macau is more than just gambling, it has gone further as an entertainment, shopping, religion, and food center,” Lim said.

Lim said between 2009 and 2010 at least four more tourist facilities were built, among them the City of Dreams, an integrated resort and upscale hotels.

On September 17, Macau will open its water-based extravaganza “The House of Dancing Water” with 77 international performance artists gracing the theatrical creation.

^^ I'm going to Davao next week(via ZestAir) for a second time and Kadayawan ulit hehe.. Excited to see again your beautiful airport and city.:cheers:

thank you..welcome to davao..enjoy your stay...post ka ng mga photos dito ha? :D :)

I'm excited! I'll be in Davao next week for Kadayawan festives, c/o PAL first flight. Can't wait to see Davao again...:)

i hope they open the cebu-macau route again.

i hope they open the cebu-macau route again.

diba, Zest Air has already started their cebu-macau route..

diba, Zest Air has already started their cebu-macau route..

zest air never planned to start that route. we had cebu pacific but they later cancelled.

Capacity of A330 is 156? Maybe they meant 256? or more?

Published in the Sun.Star Cebu newspaper on August 9, 2010.

Airline halts Cebu to Davao flights:ohno:

PHILIPPINE Airlines (PAL) will suspend its Cebu-Davao-Cebu flights beginning today until Nov. 30, 2010, as newly resigned pilots continued to stay away.

The last Davao-bound flight from Cebu, PR 409, took off at 8:15 a.m. yesterday. Its return flight, PR 410, arrived in Mactan at 10:44 a.m.

Updates on President Benigno Aquino III's presidency

A written notice from the company said these flights will be suspended, starting today, said Arnie Follosco, PAL control station manager at the Mactan Cebu International Airport.

A report aired by radio station DyAB cited low bookings as one reason for the suspension.

Follosco said the official notice did not state that reason. He also revealed the last flight had 114 passengers, below the Airbus 330’s capacity of 156, plus two flight deck crew and a four-member cabin crew.

The notice did not confirm whether the flight will resume on Dec. 1.

“That’s the only information we’ve got from our superiors in Manila. That’s all we can tell you,” Follosco said.

Jonathan Gesmundo of the PAL corporate communications department and Simuon Canton Jr. of PAL Cebu could not be reached yesterday for details.

Last week, Gesmundo said the management was trying to continue a dialogue with 25 resigned pilots, in the hope they will agree to return to work.

Eutiquio Bulambot, director of the Philippine Airlines Employees Association (PALEA) based in Mactan, has said the pilots resigned due to the lack of job security and the availability of higher-paying jobs abroad.

Businessman Robert Go, past president of the Cebu Chamber of Commerce and Industry, said he hopes the suspension of the Cebu-Davao-Cebu PAL flight will not affect passenger movement too much, because there are still similar flights operated by Cebu Pacific and a PAL sister-company, Air Philippines.

In its website, PAL said flight operations returned to normal as of Aug. 3, after it rescheduled one daily flight each to Iloilo, Bacolod and Cagayan de Oro. It also said its average of 160 domestic and international flights per day “continue to operate normally and as scheduled.” (EOB)

Capacity of A330 is 156? Maybe they meant 256? or more?

baka A320 na plane ang mean nya...

I think Ceb-Dvo flights are 320s...

zest air never planned to start that route. we had cebu pacific but they later cancelled.

its in the news ive read it somewhere..or i think its in their website...basta ive read it somewhere

http://zestair.com.ph/images/international_destination.jpg
zestair.com.ph

diba, Zest Air has already started their cebu-macau route..

i thought you were asking about the cebu-macau route?

i thought you were asking about the cebu-macau route?

aww..haha soorry my mistake.cebu-incheon diay akong nasa huna huna while macau diay ang nasa topic...pardon me.

Direct Davao City-Macau flights pushed

DAVAO CITY -- Macau’s tourism office in the Philippines has called for direct flights between this city and that special administrative region of China.

"Macau tourists like to frolic in beaches and you have beautiful beaches here. Those in Samal and other areas of Davao Region are known for beautiful beaches," Narzalina Z. Lim, general manager of the Macau Government Tourist Office (MGTO) in the Philippines that is located in Salcedo Village, Makati City, told journalists here during a recent promotional visit.

Ms. Lim, who served as Tourism secretary during the term of former president Fidel V. Ramos, said this tack will serve both areas well -- with Davao City always on the lookout for more foreign tourists, especially from China, and Macau repackaging itself from a mere gaming hub to a destination for conventions and exhibitions.

MGTO data showed that 113,473 Filipinos visited Macau as of May, 5.5% more than in the same period last year.

Ms. Lim said what while the Davao Region has attractive spots like beaches, it has to be promoted aggressively as a peaceful, physically secure destination for tourists in order to debunk a perception that is widespread among foreigners that the entire Mindanao is affected by the separatist conflict.

"There are certain markets that are [supposed to be] immune [sic] to the misconception that the whole of Mindanao is conflict-affected. Your city is one of them," Ms. Lim said.

Even top local executives of Manila-based business process outsourcing companies have noted that while the city is peaceful and has adequate infrastructure and human talent to support their operations, their principals abroad did not want to expand here because of the misconception on its security situation. -- C. Q. Francisco


source (http://www.bworldonline.com/main/content.php?id=16083)

^^ sana matuloy na yan!!!

^^ matutuloy yan pag may open sky na, who knows blessing in disguise itong PAL crisis, :cheers:

PAL lang naman ang nagpapahirap sa pilipinas, imo :bash: :lol:




Palace considering partial open skies
By JC BELLO RUIZ
August 18, 2010, 7:29pm
http://www.mb.com.ph/articles/273062/partial-open-skies-mulled-with-brewing-pal-woes

President Benigno S. Aquino III said on Wednesday the government might be forced to implement a “partial open skies" policy if the trouble at the country's flag carrier Philippine Airlines (PAL) would worsen.

In a briefing, Aquino said that the government will have to side with the interest of the majority which is the riding public if PAL's trouble would continue. He said foreign airlines would be allowed to service routes which the flag carrier fails to serve in case the problem concerning pilots and ground staff escalates.

Noting the experience of Bali, Indonesia whose number of tourists grew from 30,000 visitors to three million when it adopted an “open skies” policy, the country may also benefit from the aviation principle which allows foreign airlines to operate unlimited services in another country.

I just saw 747 approaching runway 05!that flight must be full, in time for the kadayawan..

2 744 flights this morning! wow....dami siguro pasahero for the kadayawan

2 744 flights this morning! wow....dami siguro pasahero for the kadayawan



i am one of these 2k+ passengers! even the a330 i rode was full!

zest airs cebu-davao route ends on september 19. :(

not enough passengers + not so attractive scheduling = flight cancellation

but the mnl-dvo-mnl will now become twice daily.

so the schedule will be:

MNL - DVO
Z2 390 DAILY 0400 0545

DVO - MNL
Z2 391 DAILY 0625 0810

Aircraft: A320

2nd flight (effective Sept 20)

MNL - DVO
Z2 392 DAILY 1650 1835

DVO - MNL
Z2 393 DAILY 1915 2100

Aircraft: A320

effective Sept 10, 2010:

Airphil Express New Flights:

CDO - DVO
2P252 10:30 - 11:20

DVO - CDO
2P253 11:40 - 12:30

Aircraft: Q400

ZAM - DVO
2P272 10:00 - 10:50

DVO - ZAM
2P273 11:10 - 12:00

Aircraft: Q400



Kudos to AirPhil Exress for introducing the cdo-dvo-cdo flight and for re-introducing the zam-dvo-zam flights

^^
nice update..i hope they will open more flights from davao to other key points in the country..:)

effective Sept 10, 2010:

Airphil Express New Flights:

CDO - DVO
2P252 10:30 - 11:20

DVO - CDO
2P253 11:40 - 12:30

Aircraft: Q400

ZAM - DVO
2P272 10:00 - 10:50

DVO - ZAM
2P273 11:10 - 12:00

Aircraft: Q400



Kudos to AirPhil Exress for introducing the cdo-dvo-cdo flight and for re-introducing the zam-dvo-zam flights

Isn't CebPac still servicing those routes above?

Isn't CebPac still servicing those routes above?

yes they are! and AirPhil Express is a serious competitor to date! :okay:Paging SeAir and ZestAir, Yuhooo!!! Please be active in participating in the competition now... :lol:

Davao-Bohol direct route! i hope... :):):)

^^

Same here - there's a big number of Davao residents who trace their roots in Bohol.

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l7jsyiB1fY1qzc7in.png

Eh? No more PR 809/810??!

wala na...its being replaced by 819/820. PAL is consolidating all its flights to maximize profitability. if you look at their timetable, all early morning flights were changed. the earliest to leave now is 4:50 am for zamboanga. the earliest flight used to leave at 4:00 am.

so pahirapan na itong bookings. all flights of PAL to and from davao to manila is always booked, so with this mahirap na makakuha ng low fare. oh well....

DAVAO AIRPORT PICS
- i took this during my recent trip to Davao last weekend.

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c124/alfinsky/_MG_7038.jpg
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zest air is going to mount a direct DAYTIME flight from davao to singapore and back. no schedule yet, but it will be towards the end of the year.



i hope they will succeed where cebu pacific failed

how many pax does PAL's A330 have?

how many pax does PAL's A330 have?

304 pax

Some pics from Davao Airport Termnal
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Some pics from Davao Airport Termnal
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c124/alfinsky/_MG_7831.jpg


thanks sa mga photos..:okay:

sa international check in area ito? CEB and ZA are using it pala? i thought silk air lang unless theyll be having international flights from davao soon

^^yup katabi yan ng check-in counter ng Silk air.

Another Davao Int'l Airport terminal pics.:D
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c124/alfinsky/_MG_7838.jpg
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^^ganda ng mga takes mo bro... thanks for sharing :cheers:

goys, i was browsing the website of PAL just this evening. i noticed that starting Sept 2, almost everyday na may 744 na flight to davao. mostly its PR811/812.

there are also days na two times a day ang flight ng 744. its PR811/812 and PR813/814.

they reduced the frequency of the flights from 6 per day to 4 per day. but at the same time increased the capacity of the aircraft used.

as per arianespace, this is called rightsizing.

^^ganda ng mga takes mo bro... thanks for sharing :cheers:

^^no prob.tnx :D

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HK cancellations don't affect PAL's Davao flights
Wednesday, September 1, 2010


FLIGHT cancellations by Hong Kong residents to the Philippines have not affected passenger traffic to Davao, said an official of the Philippine Airlines (PAL), the country's flag carrier.

The reduction of the number of PAL flights to Davao has more to do with the internal problem the flag carrier has with its pilots rather than a reduction in number of passengers, said PAL vice president Domingo Duerme during Wednesday's Club 888 Press Forum at the Eagle's Bar of Marco Polo Davao.

PAL has restructured its flights to Davao soon after its pilots went on strike several weeks back. From the original six daily flights to Manila, it's now down to just three -- two in the morning and one at noon -- but this time with the big Airbus planes. Before the restructuring, the afternoon and evening flights were served by smaller jets.

In an official press release last Monday, August 26, PAL said more than 500 tourists from Hong Kong and mainland China have cancelled their Manila bookings with the airline.

In the statement, PAL president Jaime Bautista said they starting to feel the initial impact of a Hong Kong government advisory, warning its residents to refrain from all travel to the Philippines.

As of Wednesday, August 28, PAL's Hong Kong station reported at least 558 Manila-bound bookings cancelled. The bookings consisted of tourists from Hong Kong, Beijing, Xiamen and other points in China.

But Duerme said while there were re-booking and re-scheduling, there were no massive cancellation of flights coming in and out of Davao City.

He said they have upped the baggage allowance per passenger to 25 kilos from the original 20 kilos as a premium service. (Jereco O. Paloma)

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HK cancellations don't affect PAL's Davao flights
Wednesday, September 1, 2010


FLIGHT cancellations by Hong Kong residents to the Philippines have not affected passenger traffic to Davao, said an official of the Philippine Airlines (PAL), the country's flag carrier.

The reduction of the number of PAL flights to Davao has more to do with the internal problem the flag carrier has with its pilots rather than a reduction in number of passengers, said PAL vice president Domingo Duerme during Wednesday's Club 888 Press Forum at the Eagle's Bar of Marco Polo Davao.

PAL has restructured its flights to Davao soon after its pilots went on strike several weeks back. From the original six daily flights to Manila, it's now down to just three -- two in the morning and one at noon -- but this time with the big Airbus planes. Before the restructuring, the afternoon and evening flights were served by smaller jets.

In an official press release last Monday, August 26, PAL said more than 500 tourists from Hong Kong and mainland China have cancelled their Manila bookings with the airline.

In the statement, PAL president Jaime Bautista said they starting to feel the initial impact of a Hong Kong government advisory, warning its residents to refrain from all travel to the Philippines.

As of Wednesday, August 28, PAL's Hong Kong station reported at least 558 Manila-bound bookings cancelled. The bookings consisted of tourists from Hong Kong, Beijing, Xiamen and other points in China.

But Duerme said while there were re-booking and re-scheduling, there were no massive cancellation of flights coming in and out of Davao City.

He said they have upped the baggage allowance per passenger to 25 kilos from the original 20 kilos as a premium service. (Jereco O. Paloma)

1. pilots went on strike several weeks back? meron ba? wala ah. irresponsible journalism..jeeze..tsk tsk tsk...

2. sino ba writer nito? kulang sa research...tsk tsk tsk.... mga journo talaga....:ohno:

PR819/820 - 530am/810am
PR811/812 - 940am/1220pm
PR813/814 - 300pm/545pm
PR821/822 - 730pm/950pm (monday to saturday)
830pm/1050pm (sunday)

clearly this writer cannot present his/her facts straight.....

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short finals on runway 05

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Nice! I wish I had the same access like you have. :)

DIA Scenes Sept 4, 2010

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The Grand Old Dame
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Taxiway A4
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The Control Tower
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The Grand Regal Hotel as seen from the DIA
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The Philippine Flag
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PAL 747-400, PR811 from Manila, with registry number RP-C8186 on a DAO Transition. En-route to a ILS landing on 05.
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PAL 747-400, PR 811 on short finals on 05
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PAL 747-400, PR 811 touchdown. Reversers engaged....
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On Taxiway A4 en-route to gate number 5
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whoa... kaya pala ng 747 mag brake sa A4 even fully booked yung flight. is braking power also determined by the wind conditions?

whoa... kaya pala ng 747 mag brake sa A4 even fully booked yung flight. is braking power also determined by the wind conditions?

braking power of the 744 is greater than the A340 or A330.

kayang kaya ng 744 ang A4 taxiway kung sa 05 mag land.

when i saw it land, naka full flaps, speed brakes, at reverser until the entrance of the A4 taxiway tapos pasaok agad sa taxiway.

DIA Scenes Sept 4, 2010

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j303/xzibit31/IMG_3545.jpg
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The Grand Old Dame
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http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j303/xzibit31/IMG_3672.jpg

Taxiway A4
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The Control Tower
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The Grand Regal Hotel as seen from the DIA
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j303/xzibit31/IMG_3675.jpg

The Philippine Flag
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j303/xzibit31/IMG_3677.jpg

PAL 747-400, PR811 from Manila, with registry number RP-C8186 on a DAO Transition. En-route to a ILS landing on 05.
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PAL 747-400, PR 811 on short finals on 05
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PAL 747-400, PR 811 touchdown. Reversers engaged....
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On Taxiway A4 en-route to gate number 5
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Nice photos @sir xzibit31! :cheers:

What's happening to the old terminal???

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nothing. its just there. rotting away...sayang nga eh. it should be put to good use.

tsk tsk tsk...dapat makialam yung ibang agency concerned regarding that old terminal.pwede pa naman pakinabangan yan..another terminal or hub or some mechanc facility ng mga aircraft..

Hindi ba kasali sa plano ng modernization ng davao airport yung old terminal bro xzibit31?

^^

nothing. its just there. rotting away...sayang nga eh. it should be put to good use.
Too bad, I thought there were some plans to turn it into a convention centre. The architecture is iconic to Davao, they should make good use of it, unfortunately it is not owned by the city.

this old airport complex is very imposing to be left to rot and ignored.the people concerned can choose to turn it into a museum,at least.or maybe an airport hotel.i remembered those grand capiz shell chandeliers-i wonder what have become of them.even then this airport is elegant inside out.shame.

sorry i forgot to mention that i'm a newbie here.btw i noticed that the new airport's roof needs a great deal of scrubbing.as you can see this is the main feature of the building(like the old airport).whatever happens to the airport maintenance crew is anyones guess.this structure is only 6 yrs old.

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davao airport, cir. 1964



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"davao airport - 1964"

RPCVHI's http://www.flickr.com/photos/rpcvhi/4680659567/in/set-72157624227432654/

wow...where did you get that pic....nice nice nice

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full flaps on short finals!

wow...where did you get that pic....nice nice nice

its says in the link.. some archive pictures of US Peace Core Volunteers assigned in the Philippines.

Even looking at the quality of the pics.. I was just amazed how was Mindanao really looked during 60's.

been to davao lately via cebu pacific. may mga pictures and videos ako ng dvo. upload ko pag di na ako busy.:cheers:

From the Davao City and Samal Island thread.

DIA

even we have a strict non-smoking ordinance and still DC does'nt descriminate....

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Smoking Lounge @ Davao International Airport

:lol:

love the Philippine Eagle Stainless Logo :cheers:

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