that the cr's have no toilet papers... all the toilets that i have gone into inside the terminal is well stocked...




I can attest to this statement...I've seen not only toilet papers inside but also paper (hand) towels...probably he's referring to MCIA re: toilet papers :runaway:

well they are planning on merging all Airport Authorities to

Airport Authority of Philippines

According to the news article awhile back

the writer of this column is not properly informed.

he says that the airport has a multi million ils that is not functioning...he is dead wrong..i was on a flight from manila to davao recently. the pilot was my uncle. i was seated at the jump seat of the cockpit of an a320. i could clearly hear the tower saying that they execute an ils approach to runway 05. my uncle, the pilot, responded to the tower and executed an ils approach. the ils at the davao airport is the most modern catergory 1 ils system in the country today. it is a sattelite based system. both approaches,05 and 23, is equipped with ils approaches. only a few airports here in the philippines have both runways that is under ils coverage. clearly he or she got his or her info from the prehistoric ages or when the crash of the air phil plane occured.

that the cr's have no toilet papers... all the toilets that i have gone into inside the terminal is well stocked...

that there are leaks...well it has been rectified already...how do i know? i know someone who is working inside the terminal and could attest to this.

but i agree that an airport authority should be operating the airport...and to stop constructing more international airports in mindanao...2 or 3 should be enough.
i hope in the future the writers should be careful in what they write for it may be damaging

Good to hear but more importantly , ang swerti mo, nice view ba from the jumpseat. Were you a deadhead non rev or a paying passenger na swinerti!:)

Hey guys I wrote a small write up in airlinequality or airtrax or something like that, try posting there to increase exposure of DIA!

Good to hear but more importantly , ang swerti mo, nice view ba from the jumpseat. Were you a deadhead non rev or a paying passenger na swinerti!:)

Hey guys I wrote a small write up in airlinequality or airtrax or something like that, try posting there to increase exposure of DIA!

i timed it na my uncle would fly into davao(paying passenger po)....he knew that i was on the plane...so he said na dun na ako sa jumpseat upo para makita ko lhat ng ginagawa nila.... the DIA is nice from above....we passed the airport to check in with the dme/vor...then circled around to do an ils approach sa runway 05...
galing talaga...i wish i were a pilot...

^^ I agree that a separate DIAA should be created. Creating an Airport Authority of Philippines IMO will cause inefficiency in addressing needs of the different airports under it. With a DIAA, all the concerns of the DIA will immediately be addressed. Btw, why are not they creating a DIAA?

i timed it na my uncle would fly into davao(paying passenger po)....he knew that i was on the plane...so he said na dun na ako sa jumpseat upo para makita ko lhat ng ginagawa nila.... the DIA is nice from above....we passed the airport to check in with the dme/vor...then circled around to do an ils approach sa runway 05...
galing talaga...i wish i were a pilot...


gusto mo maging pilot, try mo ang Microsoft Flight Simulator 2004. you can fly B 747-400, B 777ER and B 737-400. Walang airbus sa flight sim nato eh. You can fly all around the world. At 1st, nahirapan ako dahil wala naman akong alam sa airplanes. but eventually, i was able to land using ILS. Madali lng mag ILS. Alamin mulang ang ILS frequincy ng airport, Ilagay sa CRS ng airplane and heading ng runway (in case of DIA, 049 and 230) on mo yung autopilot. at wala kanang gagawin kundi controlin ang airspeed (hindi ko sinasabing ito talaga ang actual na ginagawa while mag land using ILS, akin lang ito) But sadly, sa flight sim na yun, wala pang ILS sa davao at hindi nila na include yung bagong airport, only the old one. but mataas na ang runway doon sa DVO, 3000 m. kasi nga walang ILS, sinubukan kung mag land na gamit ang VFR approach pero ang hirap. i end up landing on the side of the runway. hehehe. sinubukan ko ring magpalipad ng B747 sa CDO pero nag overshoot ako sa runway. heheh!. siguro short lng yung runway ng CDO. try nyo tong game na to!

^^ I agree that a separate DIAA should be created. Creating an Airport Authority of Philippines IMO will cause inefficiency in addressing needs of the different airports under it. With a DIAA, all the concerns of the DIA will immediately be addressed. Btw, why are not they creating a DIAA?

Creating a centralized airport authority for all international airports will also create "favoritisms" thus preventing the developments of the other international airports under it.

Like for example if all the internationals airports will be under the Manila International Airport Authority as what was previously planned, then for sure there will be a favoritism in favor of NAIA or Clark especially that it has been groomed to be the country's main hub. In this regard how can DIA lobby for an open skies policy?

So I guess all our international airports should have their own airport managing boards.

Good to hear but more importantly , ang swerti mo, nice view ba from the jumpseat. Were you a deadhead non rev or a paying passenger na swinerti!:)

Hey guys I wrote a small write up in airlinequality or airtrax or something like that, try posting there to increase exposure of DIA!

Hello Peter!

Theres also three positive comments on DIA here: http://www.sleepinginairports.net/asia/davao.htm
as well as pics here: http://www.sleepinginairports.net/photos.htm

Baka gusto mong dagdagan. I remember before, there was no DVO at www.airlinequality.com then I suggested to the site to include DVO.

the best airport all throughout Pnas :applause: thats what im just gonna say ;)

the best airport all throughout Pnas :applause: thats what im just gonna say ;)

sige tigs comment ka dun. may premyo daw ang pinakamagandang comment... round trip chicago-davao.

he he, repeat, ilan ba :lol:

he he, repeat, ilan ba :lol:

at least sampu daw. hehe. pwede na isa. basta puro praises & hallelujah lang daw ang tanggapin ng admin ng site. :jk:

hey guys, participate kayo sa survey ng skytrax...
here:
http://www.skytraxsurveys.com/Airports/DVO.htm

gusto mo maging pilot, try mo ang Microsoft Flight Simulator 2004. you can fly B 747-400, B 777ER and B 737-400. Walang airbus sa flight sim nato eh. You can fly all around the world. At 1st, nahirapan ako dahil wala naman akong alam sa airplanes. but eventually, i was able to land using ILS. Madali lng mag ILS. Alamin mulang ang ILS frequincy ng airport, Ilagay sa CRS ng airplane and heading ng runway (in case of DIA, 049 and 230) on mo yung autopilot. at wala kanang gagawin kundi controlin ang airspeed (hindi ko sinasabing ito talaga ang actual na ginagawa while mag land using ILS, akin lang ito) But sadly, sa flight sim na yun, wala pang ILS sa davao at hindi nila na include yung bagong airport, only the old one. but mataas na ang runway doon sa DVO, 3000 m. kasi nga walang ILS, sinubukan kung mag land na gamit ang VFR approach pero ang hirap. i end up landing on the side of the runway. hehehe. sinubukan ko ring magpalipad ng B747 sa CDO pero nag overshoot ako sa runway. heheh!. siguro short lng yung runway ng CDO. try nyo tong game na to!

san mo nabili ang flight sim dude? matagal na ako naghahanap nyan eh...

u can update naman the sceneries and airports eh...marami nag updated sceneries and airports sa net..

Hello Peter!

Theres also three positive comments on DIA here: http://www.sleepinginairports.net/asia/davao.htm
as well as pics here: http://www.sleepinginairports.net/photos.htm

Baka gusto mong dagdagan. I remember before, there was no DVO at www.airlinequality.com then I suggested to the site to include DVO.


Dave nagbigay naman ako ng comments ko na sa airlinequality that they should add Davao. I don't know what happened!

Tigs
cuidao via land and sea iyung free round trip so mag tataxi ka hangang alaska to russia (in winter pero sanay ka naman sa malamig!) pababang china hangang vietnam, tapos iyung lumang barko ng boat peole dadala sa iyo dito sa Davao hehe di bali pag abot mo may beach house kami puede mong tirhan as long as you like, iyun lang nga walang electricity, cell, at tubig na fresh pero libre for you !

xzibit
Those Sims are really good, even the airforces around the world use them for basic training! In fact they were downgraded after 9/11 kasi masyadong accurate for the big planes and they though it was a security problem!

PAL eyes Davao, Hong Kong route

PHILIPPINE Airlines, the country's flag carrier, is eyeing the possibility of opening a direct link between Davao and Hong Kong.

PAL Mindanao Sales Manager Domingo Duerme said they are now seeing a big market opportunity in Hong Kong, which is known as Asia's main shopping destination.

"It's very viable that's why we are now gearing towards opening it soon when the new airport terminal in Davao opens," he said.

Duerme said the airline is now bullish in its expansion this year, as it has started to gain momentum from the September 11 attacks in the United States.

"We are now reviving and we're positive we can get our target for this fiscal year," he said.

Passenger load factor, he said, has picked up to 70 percent few months after the 9-11 incident. Duerme said PAL got only 40 percent passenger load out of its 330-seater jet right after the terror attacks. OCE

sana matuloy to.

PAL eyes Davao, Hong Kong route

PHILIPPINE Airlines, the country's flag carrier, is eyeing the possibility of opening a direct link between Davao and Hong Kong.

PAL Mindanao Sales Manager Domingo Duerme said they are now seeing a big market opportunity in Hong Kong, which is known as Asia's main shopping destination.

"It's very viable that's why we are now gearing towards opening it soon when the new airport terminal in Davao opens," he said.

Duerme said the airline is now bullish in its expansion this year, as it has started to gain momentum from the September 11 attacks in the United States.

"We are now reviving and we're positive we can get our target for this fiscal year," he said.

Passenger load factor, he said, has picked up to 70 percent few months after the 9-11 incident. Duerme said PAL got only 40 percent passenger load out of its 330-seater jet right after the terror attacks. OCE

sana matuloy to.

how old is this statement ?

how old is this statement ?

around mid 2004. i think...load factor of pal for the davao manila davao route is nearing 90 percent.. that is with four flights a day.

cebu pac also with four flights a day(same route) is also around 90 percent...

all flights going in and out of the davao airport always have a high load percentage factor... this proves that there is really a market here..

duerme is already a vp for pal..he is head of pal mindanao

its small if you compare it to manila's airport. but davao's airport is just right for the needs of the city. its capacity of 1.2m passengers per year is projected up to 2012. right beside the terminal (left and right side) are areas for future expansion, not to mention the space where the old terminal is situated at.

the citizens of davao are proud of our airport.

:banana: A really really good news for banana country. We might have hit the city's biggest jackpot (http://funchain.com/~peterlavina) yet.

We need to work for regulatory obstacles, however.

Soar high, Davao!

PAL eyes Davao, Hong Kong route



"It's very viable that's why we are now gearing towards opening it soon when the new airport terminal in Davao opens," he said.




???????????? :bash:

as i posted earlier, that news was written mid 2004...

kapoy na rely on pal... we should support the opens skies policy of konsehal.....

how many countries are allowed to fly their planes in davaa, i know indonesia and singapore and malaysia wht abt the others, there are still several other countries that are granted rights to fly to davao and cebu but all these slots were not taken due to inadequate traffic, the growth of the tourism industry in our country is the key to the growth of our local and international domestic aviation

how many countries are allowed to fly their planes in davaa, i know indonesia and singapore and malaysia wht abt the others, there are still several other countries that are granted rights to fly to davao and cebu but all these slots were not taken due to inadequate traffic, the growth of the tourism industry in our country is the key to the growth of our local and international domestic aviation

actually, according to the government, alot of airlines have the rights to fly to davao. but it seems that they are not taking notice of it. on certain routes, i believe, there is more than adequate traffic to sustain their operations. like from davao to the middle east, davao to hongkong, and many other places. look at the davao singaore route, parati puno ang flight....

sana the other airlines would take notice of our place and airport...we have so much to offer to tourists and businessmen... we should support thre open skies policy of our beloved konsehal... :cheers: :cheers:

actually, according to the government, alot of airlines have the rights to fly to davao. but it seems that they are not taking notice of it. on certain routes, i believe, there is more than adequate traffic to sustain their operations. like from davao to the middle east, davao to hongkong, and many other places. look at the davao singaore route, parati puno ang flight....

sana the other airlines would take notice of our place and airport...we have so much to offer to tourists and businessmen... we should support thre open skies policy of our beloved konsehal... :cheers: :cheers:

Hi Xzibit! Are you sure about a lot of airlines having the rights to fly to Davao? If that was the case, wouldn't the clamor for an open skies policy for Davao be a moot point? And that, the battle then should be for promoting Davao as a premier tourism and business destination in the Philippines? Or am I missing something?

Are the foreign airlines not bothering to fly into Davao because they are not allowed to pickup passengers/cargo and not merely to deliver passengers/cargo? I understand open skies to mean that airlines are allowed to deliver and pickup passengers and cargo.

Di ba open skies means that, let's say Northwest can arrive in NAIA and deliver passengers to Manila. In Manila, they then pick up passengers bound for Davao. In Davao, they can pick up passengers flying to Manila and beyond. Isn't that the scenario that PAL (and maybe the other domestic players) is so opposed to? Iyan yata ang bone of contention ng PAL. In this case kasi, NWA will be slicing a potentially big piece of the pie now just reserved for the domestic airlines. Ang dapat lang talaga is for the government to relax protectionist policies. Protectionism does not promote competition, investment, and efficiency.

Hi Xzibit! Are you sure about a lot of airlines having the rights to fly to Davao? If that was the case, wouldn't the clamor for an open skies policy for Davao be a moot point? And that, the battle then should be for promoting Davao as a premier tourism and business destination in the Philippines? Or am I missing something?

Are the foreign airlines not bothering to fly into Davao because they are not allowed to pickup passengers/cargo and not merely to deliver passengers/cargo? I understand open skies to mean that airlines are allowed to deliver and pickup passengers and cargo.

Di ba open skies means that, let's say Northwest can arrive in NAIA and deliver passengers to Manila. In Manila, they then pick up passengers bound for Davao. In Davao, they can pick up passengers flying to Manila and beyond. Isn't that the scenario that PAL (and maybe the other domestic players) is so opposed to? Iyan yata ang bone of contention ng PAL. In this case kasi, NWA will be slicing a potentially big piece of the pie now just reserved for the domestic airlines. Ang dapat lang talaga is for the government to relax protectionist policies. Protectionism does not promote competition, investment, and efficiency.

mornin bel1river, yes there are alot of airlines who have rights to fly to davao. i read it somewhere in a government website.. infact they have rights to other airports in mindanao too. but as you pointed out, they cannot pick up passengers here in davao then fly to manila to pick up passengers, then fly again. that is what the foreign airlines want to do and what pal does not want to happen. i think this is what they call the 5th freedom right. mainly this is the reason why the foreign airlines do not bother to fly here because their moves will be restricted.

under the open skies, the foreign airlines would have unrestricted access to our airport thus paving the way for more airlines to service us. opens kies, in my understanding, is when airlines can just land here without negotitating with our governement. they just apply with our c.a.b. , if approved, viola, they fly here.

mornin bel1river, yes there are alot of airlines who have rights to fly to davao. i read it somewhere in a government website.. infact they have rights to other airports in mindanao too. but as you pointed out, they cannot pick up passengers here in davao then fly to manila to pick up passengers, then fly again. that is what the foreign airlines want to do and what pal does not want to happen. i think this is what they call the 5th freedom right. mainly this is the reason why the foreign airlines do not bother to fly here because their moves will be restricted.

under the open skies, the foreign airlines would have unrestricted access to our airport thus paving the way for more airlines to service us. opens kies, in my understanding, is when airlines can just land here without negotitating with our governement. they just apply with our c.a.b. , if approved, viola, they fly here.


Several Asian and American airlines have (purchased) the right to fly into davao. The reason they don't use that right is lack of demand. Should the demand arise, then im sure they will. The domestic market is not open for foreign cometition, but should NW want to fly DTW-NGO-MLA-DVO for example, they can (after negotiations with the Phil gov't and protest from PR, 5J etc) without picking up passengers in MNL bound for DVO and vice versa. Fifth freedom rights is allowing one carrier to serve country then pick up passengers and/or cargo and fly to a 3rd country.

Open skies would open up DVO to airlines whithout the hassle of gov't negotiations. It would abolish the need for license, so airlines can easily open up routes. I understand the gov't's protectionistic attitude towards PR and/or 5J etc, because they would be losing customers in the MNL-DVO route. The problem is that PR is not really keen on focusing any development in DVO, so we're losing out on potential investment.

I don't think that PR isn't keen on developing Davao. I even believe they were about to start new flights from Davao and Clark, before the Asian Economic Crisis hit and screwed up their plans. since PR is in recievership they have to focus on the routes that their creditors believe are successful but i don't believe that Davao is really on the radar right now. Wait till PAL is out of Receivership then there might be a new international flight from there.

...opens kies, in my understanding, is when airlines can just land here without negotitating with our governement. they just apply with our c.a.b. , if approved, viola, they fly here.
Thanks for the info, Xzibit. With open skies, what restrictions are there with regards to picking up passengers bound for a third country? Wouldn't it be possible for scandinavian girl and her friends to fly from Sweden to Singapore then straight to Davao?

We need to work for regulatory obstacles, however.

Councilor Pete, Do we have an ally in Nograles? What about DavSur Cong. Cagas. I mention these 2 because they seem to be GMA loyalists.

Thanks for the info, Xzibit. With open skies, what restrictions are there with regards to picking up passengers bound for a third country? Wouldn't it be possible for scandinavian girl and her friends to fly from Sweden to Singapore then straight to Davao?

actually there is a direct flight from singapore to davao and vise versa now. it has been for the longet time i can remember. its is a daily flight. so they can take the route anytime.

kudos to silk air for taking notice of davao. right now they are reaping the benefits. almost all of the daily flights are fully booked.

with regards to the restrictions, i cannot ggive you an answer on that because i dont know. we can ask our beloved konsehal pete about that.

como esta na ang taxi way sa DIA?

it is not easy doing the taxiway...may bidding pa....actual relese of the money and many more..it would take more that a year to finish everything.

how many foreign airlines are flying to davao and what are these foreign airlines?

Francisco Bangoy International Airport (Davao International Airport) currently handles only one foreign airline for scheduled flights:

....Airline..(Destination)
1. Silk Air (Singapore)

There are, however, chartered flights to/from Manado in Indonesia by use of Bouraq Indonesian Airlines and/or Merpati Nusantura Airlines.

...South-east Asian Airlines (Seair), a local/domestic-based airline is also operating scheduled flights to/from Palau. :)

Francisco Bangoy International Airport (Davao International Airport) currently handles only one foreign airline for scheduled flights:

Airline Destination
1. Silk Air (Singapore)

There are, however, chartered flights to/from Manado in Indonesia by use of Bouraq Indonesian Airlines and/or Merpati Nusantura Airlines.

...South-east Asian Airlines (Seair), a local/domestic-based airline is also operating scheduled flights to/from Palau. :)

The data above are a bit passe.

To date, Davao International Airport or Francisco Bangoy Int'l Airpot handles the folowing flights:

1. Davao to Singapore- 7 x a week
2. Davao to Palau - 3 x a week
3. Davao to Manado - 2 x a week

Regular Chartered Flights to th following destinations:

Hongkong
Korea

On-going negotiations for regular servicing:

Korea
Japan
Australia
Malaysia (resumption of service)
Brunei
China

note: from the DAVAO THREAD (Posted by KONSEHAL)

Big News on Davao's biggest jackpot!

Big news for our big jackpot! Viva Macau Airlines is a go to fly to Davao. Timetable - August 2006. Right time for the Kadayawan Festival.

Viva in Macau, Madayaw in Davao!

Executives of the new airline are now working on the regulatory requirements. Davao del Norte Rep. Antonio Floirendo is among those helping the airline. He earlier hosted lunch at Pearl Farm for the visiting Viva Macau group who were here two weeks ago.

I believe this is Davao's biggest jackpot because this will be the first foreign airline to fly to Davao since we opened the new airport three years ago. If it is successful, I know others will follow.

Macau is a fast-growing tourist destination almost rivaling Hong Kong in the Pearl River Delta of south China. It has transformed itself not just a gaming center in Asia, but a destination with a variety of attractions - cultural, culinary, entertainment, shopping, among others. It has even become a new wedding site for Filipinos.

The new carrier aims to bring in tourists to Macau from new markets in Europe, Africa, Middle East and Asia.

For instance, Andrew Payne, CEO, and Arthur Lai, Director of Commercial Operations, were in Moscow a week before they flew to Davao two weeks ago. They see the Philippines as the next favorite destination of Russian tourists.

Davao can cash in on these potential new markets with the air link from Macau.

Viva Macau plans to reach the south Pacific as well like Port Moresby in Papua New Guinea. Davao can certainly play an important link in this route.

Hooray! Even if it is redundant, let me write mabuhay, madayaw, viva Viva Macau!

^^ wow its would be nice to see another airline in dia

Francisco Bangoy International Airport (Davao International Airport) currently handles only one foreign airline for scheduled flights:

Airline Destination
1. Silk Air (Singapore)

There are, however, chartered flights to/from Manado in Indonesia by use of Bouraq Indonesian Airlines and/or Merpati Nusantura Airlines.

...South-east Asian Airlines (Seair), a local/domestic-based airline is also operating scheduled flights to/from Palau. :)

So there are 4 airlines operating in DVO...

Int'l: Silk Air, SEA Airlines
Domertic: PR, 5J and 2P... SEA Air

4 airlines?

So there are 4 airlines operating in DVO...

Int'l: Silk Air, SEA Airlines
Domertic: PR, 5J and 2P... SEA Air

4 airlines?


bouraq and merpati nasuntara airlines are servicing regular flights between davao and manado too.






.

MALI MALI MALI...

domestic... pal,cebu pac, airphil, asian spirit
intl... silk(sing), asianspirit(palau), bouraq and merpati (MANADO)

sOON... viva macau(macau) by august

most probably
korean(korea)

MALI MALI MALI...

domestic... pal,cebu pac, airphil, asian spirit
intl... silk(sing), asianspirit(palau), bouraq and merpati (MANADO)

sOON... viva macau(macau) by august

most probably
korean(korea)

So there are 4 domestic and 4 int'l, for a total of 8 flights operating in DVO. Pls. confirm if i'm correct.

Davao International Airport

Domestic Flights:

1. Philippine Airlines
2. Cebu Pacific
3. Asian Spirit
4. Air Philippines

Routes:
1. Manila
2. Cebu
3. Zamboanga
4. Bacolod
5. Ilo-Ilo

International Flights:

1. Silk Air
2. Asian Spirit
3. Bouraq
4. Merpati Nasuntara

Routes:
1. Singapore
2. Palau
3. Manado

By August:
Viva Macau! will fly Davao-Macau-Davao Route

Under Negotiations:
Korean Air (incheon)
Philippine Airlines (Hong Kong)

yeah... davao's passenger traffic is more of domestic than Int'l
thou Silk Air's Dvo-Sing-Dvo Route are most of the time full book

here are the number of flights that pass throught he airport in a daily basis..

domestic

PAL

dvo manila 4x a day (a330, a340, a320, 747-400)

AIR PHIL

dvo manila 2x a day (one flight via cebu; 737-200)
dvo cebu once a day (code share with pal; 737-200)

CEBU PAC

dvo manila 4x a day (a319, a320)
dvo cebu 3x a day (dc9)
dvo iloilo 3x a day (via cebu; dc9)
dvo zambo 3x a week (dc9)

ASIAN SPIRIT

dvo manila once a day (bae 146-100)

international

SILK AIR

dvo sing once a day (passes through cebu 3x a week. the rest direct to sing, a319, a320)

ASIAN SPIRIT

dvo palau 3x a week (bae 146-100)

BOURAQ/MERPATI

davao manadao 2x a week (fokker 100)

in the pipeline

dvo seoul (korean)
dvo incheon(korean)
dvo hongkong(pal)
dvo macau(viva macau)
dvo darwin(qantas)
dvo kota kinabalu(malaysian; resumption of flights)

rumors...

dvo qatar(?)(qatar airways)
dvo bandar seri begwan( royal brunei; tama ba spelling)
dvo bali(garuda)


even though the traffic is mostly domestic, the traffic is mindanao's highest. no other airport in mindanao comes close to the passenger traffic that the davao airport has.

what we are not taking into consideration are the number of special flights that land at the davao airport for technical stops during the early morning hours. alot of flights, using smaller planes like the 727, 737, a300, and alot more, from canada and the usa land at the davao airport. a reliable source, who is my cousin who working at the airport, said that these chartered or cargo airlines prefer to land in davao than in cebu and manila because of the following reasons, cheap landing fees, cheap parking fees, cheap fuel, very smooth runway, very nice staff, very fast turn around.

seoul doesnt have an airport... the nearest intl airport from them is incheon

seoul doesnt have an airport... the nearest intl airport from them is incheon

sorry, typo error insted of busan, i wrote seoul.

Any idea who the operator of the Seoul-Dvo flight will be . Is it KAL or Asiana?

I still think the best would be if we had our own Durian Air!

Any idea who the operator of the Seoul-Dvo flight will be . Is it KAL or Asiana?

I still think the best would be if we had our own Durian Air!

no seoul eh. its just busan and incheon. its either korean or asiana...but it may be korean. korean is openning and office here in davao na eh..

i just feel that PAL (coutrys biggest) is not that confident with davao...
good thing we have Asian spirit and other foreign airline...

1. Philippine Airlines
2. Cebu Pacific
3. Asian Spirit
4. Air Philippines

Routes:
1. Manila 11x daily
2. Cebu 05x daily
3. Zamboanga 03x week
4. Bacolod 03x daily (via Cebu)
5. Ilo-Ilo 03x daily (via Cebu)

International Flights:

1. Silk Air 7x week
2. Asian Spirit 3x week
3. Bouraq 2x week
4. Merpati Nasuntara

Routes:
1. Singapore
2. Palau
3. Manado

no seoul eh. its just busan and incheon. its either korean or asiana...but it may be korean. korean is openning and office here in davao na eh..
hmm ok, tks!

i just feel that PAL (coutrys biggest) is not that confident with davao...
good thing we have Asian spirit and other foreign airline...

we can never rely on pal. they always under estimate the traffic that is coming fom davao.

seoul doesnt have an airport... the nearest intl airport from them is incheon

Seoul does have an airport! The Kimpo Airport... the former int'l of Seoul. But now houses only the domestic routes of Korea since all int'l flights are now in Incheon. ICN is Seoul's airport by means of this is the international gateway of Seoul & Korea. I think Seoul and Incheon should be coded as one (like everyone else) since ICN is a suburb of Seoul. Esp. here most are referring to ICN when it still Seoul like Narita and Tokyo... they're the same Narita is just 40 minutes away from Tokyo. And I think its also a suburb of Tokyo, so they are still coded as one as Narita Airport uses it.

Seoul is served by two airport, Seoul-Gimpo (SEL) and Seoul-Incheon (ICN). Although SEL mainly serve domestic flights, it has maintained a connection with Tokyo-Haneda (HND). ICN, on the other hand, caters to the International flights with some domestic connection. Due to the unavailability of a large track of land, they have to built the Airport in another town (just like Narita).

Any idea who the operator of the Seoul-Dvo flight will be . Is it KAL or Asiana?

I still think the best would be if we had our own Durian Air!


I've thought about this idea as well. I hoped that Mindanao Express would be able to survive the financial crisis, sadly they didn't. I think it's possible that those same investors behind Mindanao Express could start up a new Airline based in Davao called Durian Air.

The supposed resumption of MAS DVO-BKI route is out of the question now, i think, because of the problem MAS is facing. Until MAS can sort its problems out, they won't think about opening new routes. They've just cancelled several routes. Garuda is in a worse financial standing as MAS, so until they can find a new investor, they won't be in a position to expand. Royal Brunei is a possibility, but would there be enough traffic? They wont open a flight just to satisfy enthusiasts like me.. hehehehehe...

Our best chance lies in the LCCs like Viva Macau, Jetstar Asia, Air Aisia etc. and the Koran carriers since our beloved city has caught the atention of a lot of Koreans.

Incheon and koreas domestic airport i guess is out of seouls vic
inity... its abit far...

here are the number of flights that pass throught he airport in a daily basis..

domestic

PAL

dvo manila 4x a day (a330, a340, a320, 747-400)

AIR PHIL

dvo manila 2x a day (one flight via cebu; 737-200)
dvo cebu once a day (code share with pal; 737-200)

CEBU PAC

dvo manila 4x a day (a319, a320)
dvo cebu 3x a day (dc9)
dvo iloilo 3x a day (via cebu; dc9)
dvo zambo 3x a week (dc9)

ASIAN SPIRIT

dvo manila once a day (bae 146-100)

international

SILK AIR

dvo sing once a day (passes through cebu 3x a week. the rest direct to sing, a319, a320)

ASIAN SPIRIT

dvo palau 3x a week (bae 146-100)

BOURAQ/MERPATI

davao manadao 2x a week (fokker 100)

in the pipeline

dvo seoul (korean)
dvo incheon(korean)
dvo hongkong(pal)
dvo macau(viva macau)
dvo darwin(qantas)
dvo kota kinabalu(malaysian; resumption of flights)

rumors...

dvo qatar(?)(qatar airways)
dvo bandar seri begwan( royal brunei; tama ba spelling)
dvo bali(garuda)


even though the traffic is mostly domestic, the traffic is mindanao's highest. no other airport in mindanao comes close to the passenger traffic that the davao airport has.

what we are not taking into consideration are the number of special flights that land at the davao airport for technical stops during the early morning hours. alot of flights, using smaller planes like the 727, 737, a300, and alot more, from canada and the usa land at the davao airport. a reliable source, who is my cousin who working at the airport, said that these chartered or cargo airlines prefer to land in davao than in cebu and manila because of the following reasons, cheap landing fees, cheap parking fees, cheap fuel, very smooth runway, very nice staff, very fast turn around.

thank you xzibit31, very precise information ! can your cousin take some photos of these special flights and maybe a 747/PAL at the tarmac or any other new pics and post them here ? that would definately lift the quality of this thread and make us all very happy !
salamat

I've thought about this idea as well. I hoped that Mindanao Express would be able to survive the financial crisis, sadly they didn't. I think it's possible that those same investors behind Mindanao Express could start up a new Airline based in Davao called Durian Air.

The supposed resumption of MAS DVO-BKI route is out of the question now, i think, because of the problem MAS is facing. Until MAS can sort its problems out, they won't think about opening new routes. They've just cancelled several routes. Garuda is in a worse financial standing as MAS, so until they can find a new investor, they won't be in a position to expand. Royal Brunei is a possibility, but would there be enough traffic? They wont open a flight just to satisfy enthusiasts like me.. hehehehehe...

Our best chance lies in the LCCs like Viva Macau, Jetstar Asia, Air Aisia etc. and the Koran carriers since our beloved city has caught the atention of a lot of Koreans.

Hello! :)

In my power point presentation at the April 24 multisectoral meeting on the "open skies" campaign (http://funchain.com/openskiesdavao), i did in fact indetified the LCCs as our priority.

Big airlines are conservative. Segurista. They don't enter markets until they are developed. They look at the situation as chicken and egg. On the otherhand, LCCs are the real trailblazers. They take the risk and help develop the market. They are not bothered with the chicken-and-egg debate.

In Davao's case, we need to concentrate on three key markets - northeast (China, Japan, Korea, Taiwan, HK and Macau), east (India and Middle East) and south (Australia/New Zealand, south Pacific).

The latter two key markets would make Davao a real gateway, definitely by-passing Manila.

The Viva Macau's entry is our biggest jackpot. It will link us not only to Macau and southern China's Pearl River Delta where 60 million Chinese tourists reside, but to Viva Macau's other new destinations like Moscow, and some cities in Japan and Korea.

Re MAS Davao-KK - bilateral air agreement prevents MAS to revive its flight to Davao unless it cuts one entitlement to Manila. That is the reason why we need an "open skies" regime.

Asian Spirit and Viva Macau are also both looking at the Davao-KK sector.

Is kk also open skies, if not you'll still need entitlements otherwise they can come here but not neccesarily get back.

konsehal, do the city council or office of city mayor have big tket projects for davao?
like train, baywalk or coastal road...
good thing we have queensland, if not for them, we wnt have seawall...

preserving of davao gulf is tantamont to developing davao river.,.. any news about promenade.../

if davao earns more than cebu, y cant we have such projects as them?

tnx konsehal, if they were all like u... davao could be x10

thank you xzibit31, very precise information ! can your cousin take some photos of these special flights and maybe a 747/PAL at the tarmac or any other new pics and post them here ? that would definately lift the quality of this thread and make us all very happy !
salamat

sure...i will tell him when i see him.

Is kk also open skies, if not you'll still need entitlements otherwise they can come here but not neccesarily get back.

Good morning to all! :)

I am not sure about "open skies" policy of Malaysia but I know that the whole ASEAN - 10 countries - have long agreed to declare "open skies" regime by 2008 or 2010.

We can't wait, thus we need to declare just the Davao City airport as "open skies" area the same as the one made for Clark three years ago.

Re big ticket projects of Davao, there are plenty on paper particularly those identified in the Davao Integrated Development Program (DIDP).

Current "big" projects include items under the P900 million Landbank loan - two new roads one linking Toril to Calinan passing through Manambulan, the other, linking Indangan and Bunawan; flood control projects, traffic signalization, etc.

Under new P500 loan - sports complex at Bago Oshiro, PTA grrenbelt park, and landfill.

Our Annual Development Fund every year implements about P300 million in various small to medium projects.

Cebu's big ticket projects like reclamation are all foreign-funded.

thanx konsehal

I see, tks.

wats in store for this kadayawan kosehal? anything new?

wats in store for this kadayawan kosehal? anything new?


What exactly is a "konsehal" ? City council? A representative to congress? A Congressman? I'm really very sorry about my ignorance. However, any of your help would be deeply appreciated. :)

What exactly is a "konsehal" ? City counsel? A representative to congress? A Congressman? I'm really very sorry about my ignorance. However, any of your help would be deeply appreciated. :)

he is a member of the city council. he is a councilor.

he is a member of the city council. he is a councilor.
Oh thanks, I knew there is something wrong with my spelling earlier, you beat me to it before I even corrected myself ...LOL Council not counsel...LOL thanks buddy.

Seoul is a big city. But it has an even bigger metropolitan area. That metropolitan area houses many cities. One of which is Incheon Metropolitan City. Incheon Metropolitan City is quite far for Philippine-city standards (since we are used to small cities--hell, even Metro Manila is small relative to Metro Seoul) but it is still part of Metropolitan Seoul.

Other parallelisms can be made with:
1. Tokyo - Narita
Greater Tokyo (by far the world's ultimate ultracity--largest urbanized area on the face of the planet) includes Narita as part of the greater urban area.
2. Manila - Pasay
As we all know, Ninoy Aquino International Airport is located in Pasay City and not in Manila. Since Pasay City is part of Metro Manila, NAIA is often associated as the airport of Manila.

:)

konsehal, wat for yung budget sa upgrading sa dia?

konsehal, wat for yung budget sa upgrading sa dia?

kung meron ngang budget, its for the taxiway, additional navigational equipment, and maybe,expansion of the terminal.

ok... tnx... ^^^

I have a question... why most people here are always referring to ICN and NRT when it is still SEL and Tokyo. Like here in MNL the airport is in Pasay but still refers to MNL why don't they use Pasay. When in Tokyo and SEL they're still referring to Tokyo as Tokyo & SEL as SEL not NRT and ICN.

Seoul is a big city. But it has an even bigger metropolitan area. That metropolitan area houses many cities. One of which is Incheon Metropolitan City. Incheon Metropolitan City is quite far for Philippine-city standards (since we are used to small cities--hell, even Metro Manila is small relative to Metro Seoul) but it is still part of Metropolitan Seoul.

Other parallelisms can be made with:
1. Tokyo - Narita
Greater Tokyo (by far the world's ultimate ultracity--largest urbanized area on the face of the planet) includes Narita as part of the greater urban area.
2. Manila - Pasay
As we all know, Ninoy Aquino International Airport is located in Pasay City and not in Manila. Since Pasay City is part of Metro Manila, NAIA is often associated as the airport of Manila.

:)

I have a question... why most people here are always referring to ICN and NRT when it is still SEL and Tokyo. Like here in MNL the airport is in Pasay but still refers to MNL why don't they use Pasay. When in Tokyo and SEL they're still referring to Tokyo as Tokyo & SEL as SEL not NRT and ICN.

That's because those cities have more than one airport. SEL used to be the airport code of seoul-gimpo. When Incheon was constructed, it was given the airport code ICN and the old airport was given the code GMP. SEL is still the city code, but it doesn't apply to any single airport anymore. The same with Tokyo, there's Tokyo Haneda (HND) which serves domestic traffic and some charters to GMP, while Tokyo Narita (NRT) is the international airport. Look at London, there's London-Heathrow (LHR), London-Gatwick(LGW), London-stansted(STN), Luton (LTN?), and London City (LCY).


Bear in mind that airport codes are different from city codes. Airport codes refer to the airport only, and it is only relatively recently that cities had different city codes from their airport codes.

That's because those cities have more than one airport. SEL used to be the airport code of seoul-gimpo. When Incheon was constructed, it was given the airport code ICN and the old airport was given the code GMP. SEL is still the city code, but it doesn't apply to any single airport anymore. The same with Tokyo, there's Tokyo Haneda (HND) which serves domestic traffic and some charters to GMP, while Tokyo Narita (NRT) is the international airport. Look at London, there's London-Heathrow (LHR), London-Gatwick(LGW), London-stansted(STN), Luton (LTN?), and London City (LCY).


Bear in mind that airport codes are different from city codes. Airport codes refer to the airport only, and it is only relatively recently that cities had different city codes from their airport codes.

makisali ako! ehehehhe i agree! like in New York City - city code is NYC but airport codes are JFK, LGA, and EWR.

I have a question... why most people here are always referring to ICN and NRT when it is still SEL and Tokyo. Like here in MNL the airport is in Pasay but still refers to MNL why don't they use Pasay. When in Tokyo and SEL they're still referring to Tokyo as Tokyo & SEL as SEL not NRT and ICN.

We re talking bout airport codes..

Tokyo

HND - Haneda
NRT - Narita
OKO - Yokota

Seoul

ICN - Incheon

Manila

MNL - Ninoy International Airport

These are airport codes approved and agreed worldwide!

well pretty soon Manila will mean either NAIA (ninoy aquino international airport) or MIA (manila international airport) or Clark (Clark airfield)or DMIA (Diosdado Macapagal International Airport.

And of course Davao will be DIA (Davao International Airport ) or FBIA (Francisco Bangoy International Airport or BTIAS (Bunawan Tibungco International Air and Space Port)

yup yup yup! pero dba 3 letters lang ang airport codes?

Clark Airfield is - CRK
Davao's - DVO

and maybe soon.... BTA for Bunawan Tibungco International Airport! yepee!!!

^^of course you're right, paano ba iyan if Bangoy will be the smaller airport and Bunawan the bigger one and unlike clark it's actually in davao, so Bangoy will just be BGY na lang then the airport in Bunawan will be DVO hehe

The problem being that BGY is already taken.. (Bergamo-Orio al Serio).. so depends on IATA, who assigns this codes.

IATA airport codes have 3 letters, ICAO have 4... but the IATA codes are the more common ones...

Hello! :)

In Davao's case, we need to concentrate on three key markets - northeast (China, Japan, Korea, Taiwan, HK and Macau), east (India and Middle East) and south (Australia/New Zealand, south Pacific).

The latter two key markets would make Davao a real gateway, definitely by-passing Manila.




Konsehal magtatanong po. how viable is a Dili (East Timor)-Davao City airlink, Davao City being a transit point for all incoming and outgoing flights to/from Dili? Is there any interested airline company who has already looked at this potential (???) market. :) Daghang Salamat.

makisali ako! ehehehhe i agree! like in New York City - city code is NYC but airport codes are JFK, LGA, and EWR.

I'm talking about airport codes... I've been in Narita and Seoul... and they are still using the code of Tokyo-Narita and Seoul-Incheon.... when here are only NRT and ICN... they are still referring to the cap. city of Tokyo etc. And why here in the Phils. uses Manila when the airports is in Pasay.

I'm talking about airport codes... I've been in Narita and Seoul... and they are still using the code of Tokyo-Narita and Seoul-Incheon.... when here are only NRT and ICN... they are still referring to the cap. city of Tokyo etc. And why here in the Phils. uses Manila when the airports is in Pasay.

Where do you propose to put the airport, then? Care to demolish Malate so that we can fit a nice runway and terminal in a place that's actually technically the city of Manila? :D

Dear, I already explained it. We only have one airport serving the Metropolitan Manila area, so we only need one airport code: MNL. Tokyo and Seoul have more than one airport, so to avoid confusion as to which airport one is going to depart from or arrive in, each airport is assigned the code of the region it is in. Before, when most cities had one airport, the airport code was supposed to be as close to the city code as possible so that travellers could at least hazard a guess when deciphering airport codes. There's no point in renaming MNL into PSY or anything, because why should we confuse people going to MNL? Not many people in other countries can point out Manila in the map, so why confuse them with Pasay, another city that they do not know nor care about? Twenty years from now, when Clark is developed, we might see some talk about changing codes, but T3 has to open first.

Take the example of the Kuala Lumpur International Airport. When KLIA was finished, it took the airport code of KUL from the old airport in subang, despite the fact that the new KLIA/KUL is virtually in the middle of nowhere. Malaysia believes in having only one super-airport serving Kuala Lumpur, hence the assignment of the code KUL to an airport that could not be farther from Kuala Lumpur.

i wish dvo-caticlan route would open up

FROM EUROPE to DAVAO (???): Viva Macau



Viva Macau, a proposed low-fare startup based in Macao, expects to announce a fleet decision within the next 10 days. The carrier is looking for up to 12 widebodies to support an international long-haul route network with service commencing in the June/July timeframe. "We are looking to Berlin, Lisbon or Milan with around three to four weekly flights," CEO Andrew Pyne told ATWOnline at the third Low Cost Airline Symposium in Singapore. The carrier has traffic rights out of Macau on 15 routes. Pyne, a former Cathay Pacific Airways manager, claims his cockpit crew costs will be around half of Cathay's. Airport costs in Macau are around 55% less than at Hong Kong International. Fares should be around 40% cheaper compared to Cathay or Singapore Airlines.

^^ - That's good news. Davao can now be the Southern Philippine gateway to Europe...at cheap rates too! :)

i was at the airport this afternoon and i saw that they are excavating the land right in front of the cargo terminal which is still part of the airport property. ano kaya ang gagawin nila dun?

eh which front, in front of the terminal facing the runway or the facing the road? How big a hole , really big or for a kerosene tank big?

eh which front, in front of the terminal facing the runway or the facing the road? How big a hole , really big or for a kerosene tank big?

facing the road..... sorry i used the wrong word. d sya excavate.....hehehehe....pinapatag nila yung land. parang in preparation for something... tinataggal nila yung mounds of earth.

Viva Macau plans flights to Davao starting August
Posted: 8:32 AM | May 16, 2006



DAVAO CITY -- Viva Macau Airlines is finalizing plans to mount direct flights to Davao City strating August, in time for the Kadayawan Festival, a peak period for tourism, said Councilor Peter Laviña, chairman of the city council's trade and industry committee.

Laviña said Viva Macau Airlines chief executive officer Andrew Payne had told him about the plan.

Payne and several other airline executives recently visited Davao City to discuss the flights.

"I believe this is Davao's biggest jackpot because this will be the first foreign airline to fly to the city since we opened the new airport three years ago," Laviña said. "If it is successful, I know that others will follow."

Laviña said airline officials also told him that they planned to make Davao a springboard for Viva Macau Airline to south Pacific destinations, including Port Moresby in Papua New Guinea.

yippee, on the other hand no place to stay when it's kadayawan, have to live with relativs haha

Silkair @ DIA
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the old airport:

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is pal using the old terminal?? or the new one? is the old terminal still operational? what airlines are using the old terminal??

No one uses the old terminal anymore.

what a shame, it´s so nice too. can´t they convert it into a VIP and general aviation terminal or a LCC terminal ?

I think they do use it for VIP but the airlines don't use it. I dont' think they have plans of converting it into a LCC terminal as DIA is not near max capacity so operational costs will go up.

nobody uses the old terminal anymore. it is just sitting there and rotting away.

i heard a rumor that the airforce would occupy the old terminal and convert that space into an airbase. but that is just a rumor.

right now that place is being used as a high security risk area (planes with threats and the like)

When is Viva Macau going to start flying to DVO?

I read somewhere that they have leased 2 B767s...

NONE, out of service

viva macau is a new airline company. it is starting its flight operations by mid june. they may start the macau-davao-macau run by august. just in time for the kadayawan festivities.

yup they have leased 767. but i hear that their preferred aicraft is the a330.

a friend/relative of mine who is working at the airport told me two pieces of good news today....

1. viva macau plans to start servicing the macau-davao route on august of this year utilizing a 767 aircraft. they will mount 3 flights a week for the kadayawan celebration but officially they will start with 1 or 2 flights per week. they plan to bring in alot of russian tourists to davao for the kadayawan celebration. the route will be moscow-macau-davao and vice versa.

2. come june 23 or june 24, cebu pacific will start to mount a cebu-davao-hongkong-cebu-davao flight. the aircraft that they will use is an a320 or an a319. i dont know yet if this will be a daily flight.

sana more carriers would take notice of davao.....

interesting. The one I'm actually hoping to serve Davao is both airasia and tiger airways, airasia can do kk-Davao -kl route ,1st leg has demand, 2nd leg is missionary, if it doesn't work out then they can take it out. KK is obvious but KL is good because KL is a big hub for indian and Middle eastern travellers, there is a connection to Mindanao as it's considered a muslim enclave as well. Tiger air would be even better as they could do the exact sing-clark-macau route except do one for hk. sing-davao and davao-hk is obvious, I don't know if they'll be allowed to fly to hk but macau will be good enough too. Be even better if Air asia or Tiger did a Davao route to a china city like guangzhou or xiamen as there is demand and can be developed in the long run.

i was at the davao airport yesterday, and i like the fruity smell inside - uniquely davao.

Wow, Viva Macau is to start a flight from MFM to DVO? Man, this start-up is seriously expanding it's network!

hopefully CX will fly to DVO again.

Wow, Viva Macau is to start a flight from MFM to DVO? Man, this start-up is seriously expanding it's network!

Viva Macau plans to serve several secondary cities in Japan and Korea too, in addition to Moscow, Dubai, etc.

Davao can directly be linked to these destinations via Macau.

That is why I described their entry here as Davao's biggest jackpot.

When we met Viva Macau executives here for their look-see of Davao last month, we joked about a number of possible sales pitches,

... From Asia's biggest entertainment city to the world's biggest city ... fly Viva Macau.

Macau's Eagle (name of Viva Macau parent company) ... soar high with Viva Macau to Davao, home of one of the world's majestic birds ... the Philippine Eagle.

Let's all pray their permits could be processed fast in Manila.

@konsehal, off topic ito pero i heard that davao will soon have laws regulating billboards. is this true?

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^^ dave, that one with the 747, is it really davao?

^^ just my observation ha, parang hindi yata, kasi in other pics there are no plants in front of the terminal. at parang wala yatang banner or ad sa side na yuu ng aerotube.

mukha ngang hindi. centennial yata.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/11397615@N00/page3/

@konsehal, off topic ito pero i heard that davao will soon have laws regulating billboards. is this true?

this would probably explain the need.

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paulkrps,

this pic shows the 747 at the davao international airport.

for verification, on the lower left hand corner of the plane, you can see the old terminal of the dia.

paolo

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I guess this pic was taken in davao...i heard citibank has just opened up a branch in Davao that's why they are 'advertising'..if you notice to the far right upper corner, the hotel in lanang (i forgot the name) is partly visible. the decorative (?) plant is not hanging outside but is inside the glassed ramp...correct me if I'm wrong. :wave:

^^ so guys, is it servicing a regular sked to davao? but seeing that size in davao would be a welcome sight.

^^ so guys, is it servicing a regular sked to davao? but seeing that size in davao would be a welcome sight.

Hi Paul,

Yup. PAL uses 747s to service MLA-DVO flights. Even Cebu Pacific uses their big Airbus. Remember the BAC-111s (PALJet)? As a young kid I used to be impressed by the Rolls Royce engines used by PALJets. I equated it to the car kasi.

Hi Paul,

Yup. PAL uses 747s to service MLA-DVO flights. Even Cebu Pacific uses their big Airbus. Remember the BAC-111s (PALJet)? As a young kid I used to be impressed by the Rolls Royce engines used by PALJets. I equated it to the car kasi.

wow, having 747s on a domestic flight. yups i remember the bac 111s and probably ys 11. do you remember those air manila flights? what aircraft was it?

wow, having 747s on a domestic flight. yups i remember the bac 111s and probably ys 11. do you remember those air manila flights? what aircraft was it?

Aaaah..Right! Air Manila and Filipinas Airways. Was it Air Manila that had a small lounge in the cabin where you could have your beverages standing up as if in a bar? I remember when we would go to Manila (as kids), my parents would never be on the same flight. One batch would fly PAL the other batch would fly Filipinas.

Aaaah..Right! Air Manila and Filipinas Airways. Was it Air Manila that had a small lounge in the cabin where you could have your beverages standing up as if in a bar? I remember when we would go to Manila (as kids), my parents would never be on the same flight. One batch would fly PAL the other batch would fly Filipinas.

yes, the filipinas orient airways. i can still remember that they would even allow you (the mirons, the makisalubongs) to stand by at the tarmac. oh how times have changed.

I guess this pic was taken in davao...i heard citibank has just opened up a branch in Davao that's why they are 'advertising'..if you notice to the far right upper corner, the hotel in lanang (i forgot the name) is partly visible. the decorative (?) plant is not hanging outside but is inside the glassed ramp...correct me if I'm wrong. :wave:

this pic was taken at the naia 2 centennial terminal. the building that u see in the upper right hand corner is not the grand regal hotel, but a building in bicutan or merville, or multinational. there are no plants inside or outside of the dia terminal so with the dia ramp. :)

this pic was taken at the naia 2 centennial terminal. the building that u see in the upper right hand corner is not the grand regal hotel, but a building in bicutan or merville, or multinational. there are no plants inside or outside of the dia terminal so with the dia ramp. :)

ngeek...mali pala.... :eek2: , kala ko Davao ... :runaway:

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(courtesy of flickr)

thanks for some reality pics of this beautiful airport ! i would love to see PAL´s 747 connected to an aerobridge from the tarmac side with view to the terminal and the plane.....what impressive image that would be !

comfirmed na by my cousin who works for mascor(mindanao airports corporation) and davao-hk flight. 4x weekly ang flight. a320 ang aircraft. sigurao mura lang ito. parang lcc na kasi ang cebu pac.

comfirmed na by my cousin who works for mascor(mindanao airports corporation) and davao-hk flight. 4x weekly ang flight. a320 ang aircraft. sigurao mura lang ito. parang lcc na kasi ang cebu pac.

any idea how much? :)

dont know pa. but im sure mura yan kasi prices from manila to hk on cebu pac starts at 1,999.00++.

dont know pa. but im sure mura yan kasi prices from manila to hk on cebu pac starts at 1,999.00++.

do they serve in-flight meal on LCC flights e.g. ceb pacific? :)

i remember flying with ATA (LAX-Wash.DC (ronald reagan airport?) -LAX), no meals were served during the three/four hour flight, however there were sandwiches sold on board... i dont want to be flying on an empty stomach hahahaha

great news on the dvo-hk flights by 5j.

WOW!! great newss.. hopefully this would be a successful route for 5J and DVO. I'm sure other carriers will follow suit...

On a different note, I think 5J is an LCC, but defenitely not no-frills, although I seem to remember one of their adverts stating that..

LCCs in europe doesn't serve anything at all, unless you pay for them. FR even charges for baggages you check-in...

kumusta na po ang plano na taxi way sa DIA? anong airline yung dumadating dito sa davao ng mga 8:30? i think a319 cya. hindi naman ceb? pls help!!

davao airport video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7hVgVok3Lk

davao airport part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWlMMlkrGbs

davao airport part 3 (watch Cebu Pacific Soar!!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5nFbuHRSZY

wow, having 747s on a domestic flight. yups i remember the bac 111s and probably ys 11. do you remember those air manila flights? what aircraft was it?
actualy one time i took a PR manila-dvo flight, 747-400 ginamit nga PAL, pero mas ok ang interiors ng A330 IMO kasi diba luma na ang 747 ng PAL?

davao airport part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWlMMlkrGbs

davao airport part 3 (watch Cebu Pacific Soar!!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5nFbuHRSZY


maganda rajah_soliman ! good job ! did you take another video upon landing in manila ?

maganda rajah_soliman ! good job ! did you take another video upon landing in manila ?

...leider nicht...i took the via-cebu-flight back to MY PLACE of EXILE (Dapitan) :)

the outside design were like NAIA T2... with its clear glass designs. Do they have the same architect?

Davao Int'l Airport

http://static.flickr.com/45/155803160_15dd2967d7.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/63/155803163_3b220125a0.jpg

(courtesy of flickr)

^^ I dont think so. Centennial Terminal has more glass than DIA Terminal

http://www.geocities.com/manila_naia/naiaterminal2.html
http://photos.airliners.net/photos/middle/9/3/8/0957839.jpg

...leider nicht...i took the via-cebu-flight back to MY PLACE of EXILE (Dapitan) :)

so you speak german, dapitan cannot be that far in exile, right ? i once landed there on my way to dakak resort. it was supposed to belong to a senator. very nice place dapitan. was not jose rizal in exile there ? what does dapitan airport look like now ?

the outside design were like NAIA T2... with its clear glass designs. Do they have the same architect?

i think cebu should paint their terminal in white. what a difference a new coat of paint looks so beautiful !

so you speak german, dapitan cannot be that far in exile, right ? i once landed there on my way to dakak resort. it was supposed to belong to a senator. very nice place dapitan. was not jose rizal in exile there ? what does dapitan airport look like now ?

das war ironisch gemeint..ja, ich spreche deutsch... i'm 'exiled' here im VATERLAND for some 'academic' - related reasons... I haven't seen Dapitan Airport yet :)

Davao International Airport:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v644/sleepwalker_uno/airport/diaa.jpg

coming soon at DIA...

http://www.viva-macau.com/images/index_01.png

Viva Macau takes you to exciting leisure and business destinations in Asia, Europe and the Middle East from Macau, the heart of Asia’s gaming, leisure and entertainment.

http://www.viva-macau.com/images/route_map3.jpg

http://www.viva-macau.com/routes.html

coming soon at DIA...

http://www.viva-macau.com/images/index_01.png

Viva Macau takes you to exciting leisure and business destinations in Asia, Europe and the Middle East from Macau, the heart of Asia’s gaming, leisure and entertainment.

http://www.viva-macau.com/images/route_map3.jpg

http://www.viva-macau.com/routes.html


VIVA Macau!!!!

Dave , maganda iyan. With all those flights hubbing through macau now more people from all those destinations can fly to davao cheaply and davaoenos can fly to see the world (or work there :)) also!

Davao Terminal is a japanese design (JICA funds). Centenial 2 is French architect, quite famous but can't remember his name he's dones many big airports as well. I find both designs very simple , functional and nice!

SOM yata Skidmore O? and M?

das war ironisch gemeint..ja, ich spreche deutsch... i'm 'exiled' here im VATERLAND for some 'academic' - related reasons... I haven't seen Dapitan Airport yet :)

wo bist du in deutschland zuhause ? when will you be back in germany ? possibly we could meet ! dapitan is a beautiful area in the philipines. but then name me one spot in the coutryside (spread all over the islands) this isn´t beautiful..... :)

so davao is one of the destinations in the phil. with VIVA MACAO, is the other manila or clark ?

actualy one time i took a PR manila-dvo flight, 747-400 ginamit nga PAL, pero mas ok ang interiors ng A330 IMO kasi diba luma na ang 747 ng PAL?

I was also able to ride a 747 once to davao. It was my first time with business class, and i had to go up a stairway to get to the area. :cool: Other trips were all A330... and once there was a problem with the A330, we rode a smaller boeing plane.. ;)

so davao is one of the destinations in the phil. with VIVA MACAO, is the other manila or clark ?

clark...but they would like to fly first to davao.

that will be on august, right?

on the 5J dvo-hkg flight? will it be like silkair's

davao-cebu-singapore-davao-singapore-cebu-davao leg

or will it only be

HK-cebu-davao-cebu-HK?

kasi if thats the case it wont be an international flight for davao, right? parang domestic pa rin, and well be using the domestic terminal

clark...but they would like to fly first to davao.


what do you mean they WOULD LIKE to,
hasn´t it been confirmed yet ??

its confirmed..maybe he meant it would fly to davao first..:)

its confirmed..maybe he meant it would fly to davao first..:)

thanks gravy, so when will their first touch down be and who will take the first pictures and post them here ?

wo bist du in deutschland zuhause ? when will you be back in germany ? possibly we could meet ! <----das habe ich per PM geantwortet :)


btw, where you in the ILA last May, did you see the A380 at Schönefeld ? das war ja richtig gross.....

that will be on august, right?

on the 5J dvo-hkg flight? will it be like silkair's

davao-cebu-singapore-davao-singapore-cebu-davao leg

or will it only be

HK-cebu-davao-cebu-HK?

kasi if thats the case it wont be an international flight for davao, right? parang domestic pa rin, and well be using the domestic terminal

the flight will be cebu-davao-hongkong-cebu-davao. on the cebu davao leg, no domestic passengers will be allowed on the flight. just like the silk air flights.

this will be an international flight. they will use the international side of the terminal.

what do you mean they WOULD LIKE to,
hasn´t it been confirmed yet ??

it has been confirmed. but they are concentrating more on davao than clark.

btw, where you in the ILA last May, did you see the A380 at Schönefeld ? das war ja richtig gross.....

no i did not see the ILA in berlin. i live near heidelberg. so i did not go there. but i saw ther A 380 at frankfurt airport some months ago.

have a look at my website if you like :
www.richardfischer.net
wo bist du in deutschland zuhause ? (where do you live in germany ?)

no i did not see the ILA in berlin. i live near heidelberg. so i did not go there. but i saw ther A 380 at frankfurt airport some months ago.

have a look at my website if you like :
www.richardfischer.net
wo bist du in deutschland zuhause ? (where do you live in germany ?)

i answered your question per Private Message (PM). anyway...ich komme aus der Hauptstadt..d.h. Bln.

so du kommsts aus Hiedelberg...in 2001 war ich dort für ein paar tage

...nice website

thanks gravy, so when will their first touch down be and who will take the first pictures and post them here ?

in time for kadayawan festival this august..

uhm i hope macauans ( is this the correct term?) will visit durianburg during kadayawan...

in time for kadayawan festival this august..

uhm i hope macauans ( is this the correct term?) will visit durianburg during kadayawan...

macanese i think. my lolo is from macau. :)

^^exotic man pala si dave

i answered your question per Private Message (PM). anyway...ich komme aus der Hauptstadt..d.h. Bln.

so du kommsts aus Hiedelberg...in 2001 war ich dort für ein paar tage

...nice website


u guys re tricky, I found out that there is a program where you can translate english to several different languages, it starts with babel...... LOL bad bad peeps you are..LOL

macanese i think. my lolo is from macau. :)

tnx for the info man!

no i did not see the ILA in berlin. i live near heidelberg. so i did not go there. but i saw ther A 380 at frankfurt airport some months ago.

have a look at my website if you like :
www.richardfischer.net
wo bist du in deutschland zuhause ? (where do you live in germany ?)

Hey richard! is there any chance that you might be visiting england for the farnborough airshow? let me know.. i saw her (A380) when she first came to LHR!! beauty!!

u guys re tricky, I found out that there is a program where you can translate english to several different languages, it starts with babel...... LOL bad bad peeps you are..LOL


sorry...i have the feeling i'm becoming a nuisance here....i'm sometimes overwhelmed by the fact that there are good friends here from the land of the Messerschmitts, Junkers, Dorniers, and 99 Luftballons (hahahah):horse:.....anyway, this is another good link for language translations: http://dictionary.reference.com/translate/text.html

^^exotic man pala si dave

ya, kumakain ng buhay na manok.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/sleepie_uno/airplane/dia.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/sleepie_uno/airplane/dia2.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y229/sleepie_uno/airplane/dia3.jpg

Hey richard! is there any chance that you might be visiting england for the farnborough airshow? let me know.. i saw her (A380) when she first came to LHR!! beauty!!

hi huistenmark,

long time no chat. how are you doing ?
no, i won´t be going to farnborough, i do not like big gatherings, long ques, waiting lines either.

no i rather jump to airports and watch the daily arrival/departure of aircraft, sitting in a restaurant, having a san miguel or holsten or becks from the draft. or go to the visitors area and take some shots.
:)

sorry...i have the feeling i'm becoming a nuisance here....i'm sometimes overwhelmed by the fact that there are good friends here from the land of the Messerschmitts, Junkers, Dorniers, and 99 Luftballons (hahahah):horse:.....anyway, this is another good link for language translations: http://dictionary.reference.com/translate/text.html

don´t worry about it guys, we shifted our german small-talk to the private sector. it was rajah´s idea, so i answered him there....

sorry for the inconvenience. it happens to me every day on these forums too. but i understand, after all, these are the philippine pages i am visiting.

sorry...i have the feeling i'm becoming a nuisance here....i'm sometimes overwhelmed by the fact that there are good friends here from the land of the Messerschmitts, Junkers, Dorniers, and 99 Luftballons (hahahah):horse:.....anyway, this is another good link for language translations: http://dictionary.reference.com/translate/text.html


Oh no no no, I was just giving you a hard time. I just happen to notice a message in another thread about them using a program that enables one to translate many different languages to english and vice versa. I just find it funny because here I was so impressed and someone just revealed the their secret.. No offense meant my friend! I am not really singling anybody out, just trying to laugh with everybody. Cheer up bud, you've done nothing wrong...

i just want to know why i did not notice this nice work of ingenuity when i left davao last year

please let me know what's happening in davao nowadays, it has been a year that i am receiving nothing from my hometown davao

about the status of the peace and order project of our mayor. i thought before that his name is just limited for people in davao, or to some curious filipinos, but his fame reaches europe.....amazing

about the status of the peace and order project of our mayor. i thought before that his name is just limited for people in davao, or to some curious filipinos, but his fame reaches europe.....amazing

duterete is known among filipinos in europe too?thats new..anyway when youa asked i just want to know why i did not notice this nice work of ingenuity when i left davao last year
what exactly was it that you didnt notice? :) :) :)

duterete is known among filipinos in europe too?thats new..anyway when youa asked i just want to know why i did not notice this nice work of ingenuity when i left davao last year
what exactly was it that you didnt notice? :) :) :)


definitely true.....some of them indeed do like the government strategy of mayor duterte.....his effort of maintaining peace and order in davao....of course, some of them don't like him, in the case of some negative accusations, and some bad allegations...but that is part of the game...

ok, i was talking about some of the nice pictures that i have seen when i was browsing this forum....they are absolutely beautiful....i am proud to be a dabawenyo then............... :cheers:

^^ welcome saedijr, you can visit to Davao: Island to Higlhand thread just in the bottom of thi s thread

Oh no no no, I was just giving you a hard time. I just happen to notice a message in another thread about them using a program that enables one to translate many different languages to english and vice versa. I just find it funny because here I was so impressed and someone just revealed the their secret.. No offense meant my friend! I am not really singling anybody out, just trying to laugh with everybody. Cheer up bud, you've done nothing wrong...

dann bin ich beruhigt.... :wave:

here's a re-post (from the davao thread)
Originally Posted by davaoeagle


MEMBER-nations of the Brunei-Indonesia-Malaysia-Philippines East Asean Growth Area (BIMP-Eaga) have forged a new agreement, which is expected to increase the load factor of airlines companies in the growth area.

The agreement was reached during the recently concluded BIMP-Eaga Transport Ministers Meeting in Bandar Seri Begawan, Brunei Darussalam.

Mindanao Business Council chair Romeo Serra said the granting of full fifth freedom traffic rights in the BIMP-Eaga region is a start to further smoothen air transport linkages in the region.

The agreement includes the designation of two selected Eaga entry points in each member country every year starting this year and subsequently all Eaga points by 2008 with fifth freedom traffic rights for scheduled passenger and cargo services.

Member countries are also urged to encourage the cooperation among BIMP-Eaga airlines by implementing co-terminalization with own stopover right and code sharing arrangement.

In the meantime, efforts are focused on the establishment of scheduled passenger services between Davao City-Kota Kinabalu (Malaysia)-Bandar Seri Begawan (Brunei Darussalam) and between Pontianak (Indonesia)-Kuching (Malaysia)-Bandar Seri Begawan (Brunei Darussalam).

In the meeting, the Philippines announced its reduction of civil aviation charges by 50 percent for air service operators operating in the BIMP-Eaga sub-region.

It was recommended by the Philippine delegation that all other member countries should formulate their own local incentives to support the development of air transport linkages.

The ministers recognized the importance of public-private partnership for a conducive business environment.

"We are asking the private sector to be pro-active and innovative in the development of transport facilities and services," Serra said.

Another aspect suggested to be highly developed is the trade and tourism sector, which are believed to support and sustain the transport linkages in the sub region.

Davao airport now ready for bigger aircraft
Manila Standard Today 17-O6-2006
By Roderick T. dela Cruz

The new Davao City International Airport is now ready for more passengers and larger aircraft, according to the Asian Development Bank, which financed the $128 million state-of-the-art project.

Officially named Francisco Bangoy International Airport, it is now fully operational and is raring to take in more passengers and bigger aircraft, the ADB said.

It has been upgraded and expanded to provide reliable and safe all-weather operations that meet international standards and remove infrastructure bottlenecks that constrained the growth of domestic and international air services, the bank said.

“It will also enhance Davao’s access to nearby markets and improve the overall economic prospects of the Southern Philippines, and could be considered one vital link for the intermodal transport network essential for this area,” it said.

Actual passenger volume at the Davao airport last year surpassed one million domestic passengers flown in by Philippine Airlines, Cebu Pacific, Air Philippines and Asian Spirit out of 14 daily local flights.

International passengers to and from Manado and Singapore also reached almost 25,000.

“But Davao’s spacious and modern terminal building is designed to accommodate much more, and can easily accommodate up to twice its designed minimum passenger capacity of one million passengers,” the bank said.

Davao airport now ready for bigger aircraft
Manila Standard Today 17-O6-2006
By Roderick T. dela Cruz

The new Davao City International Airport is now ready for more passengers and larger aircraft, according to the Asian Development Bank, which financed the $128 million state-of-the-art project.

Officially named Francisco Bangoy International Airport, it is now fully operational and is raring to take in more passengers and bigger aircraft, the ADB said.

It has been upgraded and expanded to provide reliable and safe all-weather operations that meet international standards and remove infrastructure bottlenecks that constrained the growth of domestic and international air services, the bank said.

“It will also enhance Davao’s access to nearby markets and improve the overall economic prospects of the Southern Philippines, and could be considered one vital link for the intermodal transport network essential for this area,” it said.

Actual passenger volume at the Davao airport last year surpassed one million domestic passengers flown in by Philippine Airlines, Cebu Pacific, Air Philippines and Asian Spirit out of 14 daily local flights.

International passengers to and from Manado and Singapore also reached almost 25,000.

“But Davao’s spacious and modern terminal building is designed to accommodate much more, and can easily accommodate up to twice its designed minimum passenger capacity of one million passengers,” the bank said.


that is why we need to impliment the "opens skies" program for davao so that foreign airlines would take notice. we cannot just rely on PR and 5J to spearhead the international flights out of the davao airport. they have enough problems as it is.

i dont know why the national government is hesitant to declare "open skies" at the davao airport. maybe they are just protecting the two carriers. for sure if international flights would operate out of here, there would be a noted decrease of passengers in manila and cebu. ewan ko na talaga.... they build a modern airport but refuse to support it...only in the philippines

that is why we need to impliment the "opens skies" program for davao so that foreign airlines would take notice. we cannot just rely on PR and 5J to spearhead the international flights out of the davao airport. they have enough problems as it is.

i dont know why the national government is hesitant to declare "open skies" at the davao airport. maybe they are just protecting the two carriers. for sure if international flights would operate out of here, there would be a noted decrease of passengers in manila and cebu. ewan ko na talaga.... they build a modern airport but refuse to support it...only in the philippines

i'm also wondering why...it's sometimes frustrating to realize how complacent these mANILA based planners are....they lack foresight and proactivity....opinion lang to ha :)

i'm also wondering why...it's sometimes frustrating to realize how complacent these mANILA based planners are....they lack foresight and proactivity....opinion lang to ha :)

kasi wala sila bilib sa atin? :)

By the way, when mag commence and DVO-HKG ng 5J?

is it true nga ang DVO-KOta kinabalu route will be revived?

this is imperial manila at its best..... :bash:

dapat federal na so that we can decide what is best for us....for our airport...

would it be feasible to have a davao international airport authority?

this is imperial manila at its best..... :bash:

dapat federal na so that we can decide what is best for us....for our airport...

would it be feasible to have a davao international airport authority?

true!!!! i have the same sentiments..

ano ba mga under negotiations na flight? yung most likely matuloy in the next 2 years...

that will be on august, right?

on the 5J dvo-hkg flight? will it be like silkair's

davao-cebu-singapore-davao-singapore-cebu-davao leg

or will it only be

HK-cebu-davao-cebu-HK?

kasi if thats the case it wont be an international flight for davao, right? parang domestic pa rin, and well be using the domestic terminal

Yup this will be an international flight. Passengers both from Davao and Cebu will check in at immigration. They will claim their baggages once they reach Hongkong, or in the case of a return flight, at the final destination (be it Cebu or Davao). Passengers from Davao don't have to get down in Cebu, or passengers in Cebu won't have to get down in Davao. It would just be a brief stopover to pick up some passengers.

This is similar to PAL's international flights here.

Federalism will not solve this particular problem. Air rights are a National Government issue not regional. e.g. FAA in the US.

A pocket open skies will be good for Davao but obviously ATO is receiving a lot influence from both PR and 5J. In this case these are manila and cebu interests respectively. One reason they do have a little amo in their pocket is that currently there are existing unserved air rights which can be allocated to new applicants but these are not yet being used. Hence the ease by which an Air Macau can actually enter the DVO market.This is not to counter pocket open skies for Davao, but just to show one justification why ATO has not jumped the gun on this. Requires political will to counter LT and Gokongwei Groups.

what happened to the land which has been quarried near the control tower?? i saw that before i left davao last month..i heard the airport will have its hotel?is it true???? sana naman totoo just like that of mactan airport na may waterfront sila as their airport hotel.

that is why we need to impliment the "opens skies" program for davao so that foreign airlines would take notice. we cannot just rely on PR and 5J to spearhead the international flights out of the davao airport. they have enough problems as it is.

i dont know why the national government is hesitant to declare "open skies" at the davao airport. maybe they are just protecting the two carriers. for sure if international flights would operate out of here, there would be a noted decrease of passengers in manila and cebu. ewan ko na talaga.... they build a modern airport but refuse to support it...only in the philippines

so one of you has finally realized what hampers this country on the international market.....change it when it is your time to go ! go for it ! go for the philippines !

when is the 5J DVO-HKG inaugural flight?

when is the 5J DVO-HKG inaugural flight?

supposed to be june 23...pero parang d ata matutuloy on that date kasi there is still no announcement from 5j.

kung hindi sa june 23 ang inaugural flight kelan pa yan???baka hindi na matuloy yan?
btw, what is the route?is is the same to dvo-cebu-singapore-cebu-dvo route of silk air?

kung hindi sa june 23 ang inaugural flight kelan pa yan???baka hindi na matuloy yan?
btw, what is the route?is is the same to dvo-cebu-singapore-cebu-dvo route of silk air?

tuloy daw ito sabi ng friend ko who works at the airport...baka kulang pa ng aircraft ang 5J.

the route will be ceb-dvo-hk-ceb-dvo.

^^ i think they just received/will receive two new A319's this week.. im not sure about this, but i think i read about this in somewhere

You're right xxxCarlosxxx. It was on the papers.

so... i guess one of those A319's will be used on the davao-hk route and the other for the dipolog-manila route...

Russian airline to establish routes in Mindanao and EAGA MINDANEWS
Written by OPAPP
Wednesday, 21 June 2006
MANILA (OPAPP) -- Mindanao’s airline and tourism industry takes another big leap as a Filipino-Russian owned airline company, Mosphil Aero Incorprated, gears up in setting new direct flights to Brunei Darussalam-Indonesia-Malaysia-Philippines East ASEAN Growth Area (BIMP-EAGA) and the Republic of Palau.

According to Mosphil Aero Inc. President Ibragim Sharifkulov, the airline company is putting up international and domestic flights that will primarily service passenger and cargo traffic in the island region.
“Our expansion in Mindanao is part of the company’s mission to provide air travel and cargo services to potential tourist destinations in the Philippines needing reliable means of transportation,” Sharifkulov said.

In addition, Sharifkulov specifically identified Zamboanga, Jolo, Tawi-Tawi and Davao as key areas being targeted by Mosphil Aero in Mindanao.

Meanwhile, Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process Jesus Dureza also stressed that establishing more domestic and international air links are vital in accelerating economic activities and promoting tourism for the entire island region.

“Mindanao is a strategic place for airline investments due to the increasing number of domestic and foreign tourist and investors along with the existing BIMP-EAGA economic cooperation,” Secreatary Dureza said.

Secretary Dureza also said that the government and business sector are working closely to promote flights with the 4-member countries of BIMP-EAGA in the South.

At present, the BIMP-EAGA roadmap to development currently aims to increase trade, investment and tourism in the sub-regional cooperation within a period of five (5) years.

Specifically, by 2010 the BIMP-EAGA roadmap is poised to increase intra and extra trade among BIMP-EAGA focus areas by 10%, increase investments in the sub-region by 10% and increase tourism movement in the growth polygon by 20%.

The Brunei Darussalam-Indonesia-Malaysia-Philippines East ASEAN Growth Area (BIMP-EAGA) was created in March 1994 to increase trade, tourism and investments among the member countries of the growth polygon with Mindanao and Palawan as one of the key focus areas for cooperation. (OPAPP)

ДОБРО ПОЖАЛОВАТЬ К DAVAO

so... i guess one of those A319's will be used on the davao-hk route and the other for the dipolog-manila route...

the aircraft that wiil be used on the dvo-hk flight will be an a320 daw eh. maybe 5J is just waiting for the delivery of the a319's to free up the schedules of the a320's.

Russian airline to establish routes in Mindanao and EAGA MINDANEWS
Written by OPAPP
Wednesday, 21 June 2006
MANILA (OPAPP) -- Mindanao’s airline and tourism industry takes another big leap as a Filipino-Russian owned airline company, Mosphil Aero Incorprated, gears up in setting new direct flights to Brunei Darussalam-Indonesia-Malaysia-Philippines East ASEAN Growth Area (BIMP-EAGA) and the Republic of Palau.

According to Mosphil Aero Inc. President Ibragim Sharifkulov, the airline company is putting up international and domestic flights that will primarily service passenger and cargo traffic in the island region.
“Our expansion in Mindanao is part of the company’s mission to provide air travel and cargo services to potential tourist destinations in the Philippines needing reliable means of transportation,” Sharifkulov said.

In addition, Sharifkulov specifically identified Zamboanga, Jolo, Tawi-Tawi and Davao as key areas being targeted by Mosphil Aero in Mindanao.

Meanwhile, Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process Jesus Dureza also stressed that establishing more domestic and international air links are vital in accelerating economic activities and promoting tourism for the entire island region.

“Mindanao is a strategic place for airline investments due to the increasing number of domestic and foreign tourist and investors along with the existing BIMP-EAGA economic cooperation,” Secreatary Dureza said.

Secretary Dureza also said that the government and business sector are working closely to promote flights with the 4-member countries of BIMP-EAGA in the South.

At present, the BIMP-EAGA roadmap to development currently aims to increase trade, investment and tourism in the sub-regional cooperation within a period of five (5) years.

Specifically, by 2010 the BIMP-EAGA roadmap is poised to increase intra and extra trade among BIMP-EAGA focus areas by 10%, increase investments in the sub-region by 10% and increase tourism movement in the growth polygon by 20%.

The Brunei Darussalam-Indonesia-Malaysia-Philippines East ASEAN Growth Area (BIMP-EAGA) was created in March 1994 to increase trade, tourism and investments among the member countries of the growth polygon with Mindanao and Palawan as one of the key focus areas for cooperation. (OPAPP)

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is this a joke ? mosphil aero: what a name.....when and with what aircraft will they start ?

i'm looking forward to the dvo-macau route which will open this august courtesy of viva macau...i've seen and heard a lot of food things in Macau. Actually, Living Asia Channel keeps on playing videos that promote Macau..It tells us that it is now an open city like that of Dubai..If there is a direct connection of flights between Davao and Macau, im pretty sure that all Davaoeños will surely enjoy this priviledge to go to one of the most exciting and beautiful cities in Asia...Davao really hits the jackpot!

i hope the flights of singapore to and from davao won't be connected anymore to cebu. I think the load of passengers from davao going to singapore is heavier because of the fully-booked flights...anyway, just a suggestion! Davao airport is the Philippines' most modern today, so direct international and even domestic flights must be evident.

i hope the flights of singapore to and from davao won't be connected anymore to cebu. I think the load of passengers from davao going to singapore is heavier because of the fully-booked flights...anyway, just a suggestion! Davao airport is the Philippines' most modern today, so direct international and even domestic flights must be evident.

there are direct flights from dvo to sing to dvo 4 times a week...the other 3 flights pass by cebu... :)

is this a joke ? mosphil aero: what a name.....when and with what aircraft will they start ?

i think it's a joke... even this website where this news originated, i think is a hoax http://opapp.gov.ph/

http://opapp.gov.ph/img/FotoRelease/NEW-AIR-LINKS-IN-MINDANAO.jpg
NEW AIR LINKS IN MINDANAO. Secretary Jesus Dureza (right), Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process cites to Ibragim Sharifkulov (left), MOSPHIL Aero Incorporated President, various existing air linkages within Mindanao and the Brunei Darussalam-Indonesia-Malaysia-Philippines East ASEAN Growth Area (BIMP-EAGA) during a recent meeting in Manila. Jointly set up by Russian investors, MOSPHIL AERO intends to establish passenger air routes to Zamboanga, Jolo, Tawi-Tawi and Sandakan, Malaysia along with cargo air routes in Davao City and the Republic of Palau. OPAPP

my opinion only i hope i'm mistaken...

is this a joke ? mosphil aero: what a name.....when and with what aircraft will they start ?

i guess that stands for Moslem (Mindanao) Philippines Aero... :)

mabuti naman pala na 3 stop overs nalang papuntang cebu...is it true that davao will also have flights to moscow???great thing davao will not only serve the BIMP-EAGA region but as well as european cities!

i think it's a joke... even this website where this news originated, i think is a hoax http://opapp.gov.ph/

http://opapp.gov.ph/img/FotoRelease/NEW-AIR-LINKS-IN-MINDANAO.jpg
NEW AIR LINKS IN MINDANAO. Secretary Jesus Dureza (right), Presidential Adviser on the Peace Process cites to Ibragim Sharifkulov (left), MOSPHIL Aero Incorporated President, various existing air linkages within Mindanao and the Brunei Darussalam-Indonesia-Malaysia-Philippines East ASEAN Growth Area (BIMP-EAGA) during a recent meeting in Manila. Jointly set up by Russian investors, MOSPHIL AERO intends to establish passenger air routes to Zamboanga, Jolo, Tawi-Tawi and Sandakan, Malaysia along with cargo air routes in Davao City and the Republic of Palau. OPAPP

my opinion only i hope i'm mistaken...


i hope it's not a hoax!!! :)

^^ hahaha basig kuyaw nang mga eroplano nila 2nd hand na Russian made pa! ooH "flying coffin"

good evening to all! kumusta na ang plans ng building ng taxiawy sa airport, parang wala na silang plano ah? heheh. i noticed lang noong pumunta ako sa lodgemar village (just fronting the terminal of DIA, where you can see all the activities in the airport, nice place for airline addicts like me) na hindi pla pantay ang elivation ng land sa airport. kung gagawa cla ng taxiway, they have to remove a lot of dirt.

good evening to all! kumusta na ang plans ng building ng taxiawy sa airport, parang wala na silang plano ah? heheh. i noticed lang noong pumunta ako sa lodgemar village (just fronting the terminal of DIA, where you can see all the activities in the airport, nice place for airline addicts like me) na hindi pla pantay ang elivation ng land sa airport. kung gagawa cla ng taxiway, they have to remove a lot of dirt.

hindi rin naman straight flat ang runway ng DIA eh :D

hindi rin naman straight flat ang runway ng DIA eh :D

which is the case of alot of airports around the world...not all of the worlds airports have straight flat runways....

^^ hahaha basig kuyaw nang mga eroplano nila 2nd hand na Russian made pa! ooH "flying coffin"

basig unya mugamit silaq SU or the IL types hahahahaha the motto will be "Fly now, never come back :D "

which is the case of alot of airports around the world...not all of the worlds airports have straight flat runways....

kaya nga.. i was just commenting on psionic's concern na hindi pantay ang elevation ng land around DIA and the proposed taxiway. (long delayed taxiway BTW) :D

pero pansin talaga na hindi flat runway natin no? i remember nung nag field trip kami while the terminal and its supporting structures were still under const. dun kami sa tuktok ng kinoconstruct na control tower, kita mo talaga na mejo may bajada and subida ang runway :D

that was a fun experience BTW, wala pa namang railing ang tuktok nung Control Tower that time...

Is this the new one?
http://www.jetphotos.net/images/0/04102710.jpg.80033.jpg

davao int'l. airport has really come a long way. last time i went there was in '97 and i can still remember how hot and humid the old terminal was. windowless pa. i would cover my ears everytime a plane landed kasi ang sakit sa tenga. :)

i miss the old terminal, sayang at hindi na cya napapakinabangan ngayon, i hope may plans ang kung cno man agency may hawak nun ngayon.

dia still owns the old terminal site.... it is just being used as a high security risk area.....

sana ipagamit na lang yun sa LTO :)

sana ipagamit na lang yun sa LTO :)

dapat nga..but its too far away.... gawin nila executive terminal...or office ng future davao international airport authority...

@xzibit how come marami ka alam bout DIA? u work there? I have a friend who works at CebuPacific sa Airport. sa ramp cya, tksa minsan cya nag aanounce ng departure ng CebuPacific planes

@xzibit how come marami ka alam bout DIA? u work there? I have a friend who works at CebuPacific sa Airport. sa ramp cya, tksa minsan cya nag aanounce ng departure ng CebuPacific planes

my cousin works for mascor (mindanao airport corporation). mascor is resposible in handling the international flights and special flights that come and go sa DIA. :)

ahh.kala ko you work at DIA..anyway..SPECIAL FLIGHTS?

tinanong ko nga pala barkada ko sa Cebu Pacific, la pa daw cya balita bout the DVO-HKG flight....ngii

ahh.kala ko you work at DIA..anyway..SPECIAL FLIGHTS?

tinanong ko nga pala barkada ko sa Cebu Pacific, la pa daw cya balita bout the DVO-HKG flight....ngii

@special flights- these are mostly cargo flights that come from canada and the u.s. bound for other asian countries. they land here to take on fuel. its cheaper kasi daw dito sa dia. meron din mga private planes from australia who also land here to take on fuel for their onward flights to china, japan, etc...

@dvo-hk 5j flights - 5j talked to mascor about it. its a go na man daw. maybe they just rescheduled it. baka kulang ng aircraft.

with our location, i think Davao should be the philippines' hub for destinations south of the equator like australia and well asutralia!!!

i propose na yung manila-sydney/melbourne flights mag via Davao para makatipid ang PAL..meaning yung ibang manila-davao flights deretso na ng australia para makatipid sa routes ang PAL.hmmmm

it has been confirmed by my cousin that the dvo-hk flights that were supposed to start on june 23 as been moved to august due to aircraft unavailability...

thats still a good news, pimpz :)

it has been confirmed by my cousin that the dvo-hk flights that were supposed to start on june 23 as been moved to august due to aircraft unavailability...

good to hear that!!!!!hong kong and macau flights this august! i'm so excited for those two maiden flights...I hope the Davao-Darwin flight will be opened as soon as possible. Quantas Airways has an interest of opening a flight in Davao, but it's still undecided when it will gonna happen....let's just wait. :) :runaway:

^^Wow, good news indeed. It'll open up new opportunities for DVO. Galing! Sana tuloy nga yung sa Qantas.

sana nga matuloy ang quantas! Let's just keep crossing our fingers!

what about the resumption of Davao-Kota kinabalu flights?

The air rights exist so it's just a question of either mas or more likely airasia determining there is a market enough to justify the service.

AIR ASIA? what country ba based and Air Asia?

anyway re: Qantas Flights, wouldnt it be nice if they did a HKG-DVO-SYD leg? :)

i think the Malaysian Airlines won't resume the DVO-KK flights but some small airlines like the South Phoenix Airways and Asian Spirit have interest in opening a route... The Davao-Darwin flight has been proposed several years ago, but I heard rumors that Quantas will open its route to Davao via Darwin early next year! I prefer Sydney also to be opened its flight to Davao kahit na there is a stop over whether in Manila or Cebu!

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i think the Malaysian Airlines won't resume the DVO-KK flights but some small airlines like the South Phoenix Airways and Asian Spirit have interest in opening a route... The Davao-Darwin flight has been proposed several years ago, but I heard rumors that Quantas will open its route to Davao via Darwin early next year! I prefer Sydney also to be opened its flight to Davao kahit na there is a stop over whether in Manila or Cebu!

if ever naman magkaka sydney flight tayo, it wont have a stop over to cebu or manila as pinaka south naman tayo ad it doesnt make sense na babalik pa pa north ang airplane diba then south again, baka pa stop over tayo ng manila-sydney.

with our location, i think Davao should be the philippines' hub for destinations south of the equator like australia and well asutralia!!!

i propose na yung manila-sydney/melbourne flights mag via Davao para makatipid ang PAL..meaning yung ibang manila-davao flights deretso na ng australia para makatipid sa routes ang PAL.hmmmm

dont forget new zealand !!!

Air Asia is a Malaysian based Low cost Carrier. It's the biggest in the region. It may actually be bigger than PAL right now.

I didn't realize may 5th freedom rights na ang SQ.

The rumour of a Davao Darwin to Sydney/Melbourne Flight has been going on for years. Lets see if they actually do it rather than say it.

anong freedom rights?

I didn't realize may 5th freedom rights na ang SQ.



SQ just offered fares from Davao. The rights exercised were sixth freedom, not fifth. Although fifth freedom from Davao to Europe would be interesting.

ano ba yang fredom2x na yan?

try googling the freedoms of the air. Its ridiculously long to explain, but in a nutshell, the first to fourth freedoms deal with having the right to operate basic point-to-point services between the home country and another country. Fifth onwards deals with the right to transport passengers to countries other than the home or destination country, while ninth is cabotage, or the right to operate domestic services in another country. Each different freedom obviously has its own nuances, but that's the gist of it.

Anyway, in the context of the current discussion, fifth freedom deals with the right to operate services between the home country and a third country via the second country, with the ability to transport people from the second country to the third. Sixth freedom deals with transporting passengers from one country to another via the home country.

ok thanks may idea na ako

SQ just offered fares from Davao. The rights exercised were sixth freedom, not fifth. Although fifth freedom from Davao to Europe would be interesting.
thank you, also it would be good if someone would offer these from hk! so that the davao tourist market can take off!

Gravy, I just posted this in the airlines thread a few days ago, gives a broad overview.

Open skies
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


The term open skies refers to either to a bilateral or multilateral Air Transport Agreement which:

* liberalizes the rules for international aviation markets and minimizes government intervention — the provisions apply to passenger, all-cargo and combination air transportation and encompass both scheduled and charter services; or
* adjusts the regime under which military and other state-based flights may be permitted.

First step towards a civil transport regime

The Convention on International Civil Aviation (1944), signed at Chicago, was intended to prepare a framework within which civil air transport could develop (not military or other state activities whether in a piloted or drone craft). It introduced nine freedoms of the air for those states that have adopted the Convention and enter into bilateral treaties that may grant any of the following rights or privileges for scheduled international air services:

1. To fly across the territory of either states without landing.
2. To land in either state for non-traffic purposes, e.g. refueling without boarding or deplaning passengers.
3. To land in the territory of the first state and deplane passengers coming from the home state of the airline.
4. To land in the territory of the first state and board passengers travelling to the home state of the airline.
5. To land in the territory of the first state and board passengers travelling on to a third state where the passengers deplane, e.g. a scheduled flight from the U.S. to France could pick up traffic in England and take all to France (sometimes termed beyond rights).
6. To transport passengers moving between two other states via the home state of the airline, e.g. a scheduled flight on an American airline from England lands in the U.S. and then goes on to Canada on the same aircraft.
7. To transport passengers between the territory of the granting State and any third State state without going through the home state of the airline, e.g. a scheduled flight on an American airline from England to Canada that does not connect to or extend any service to/from the U.S..
8. To transport cabotage traffic between two points in the territory of the granting State on a service which originates or terminates in the home state of the foreign carrier or (in connection with the so-called Seventh Freedom) outside the territory of the granting State (also known as consecutive cabotage), e.g. an American airline flies from the U.S., lands passengers in London and then boards passengers to fly to Manchester.
9. To transport cabotage traffic of the granting State on a service performed entirely within the territory of the granting State (also known as stand alone cabotage), e.g. an English airline operates a service between Perth and Sydney in Australia).

Because only the first five "freedoms" have been officially recognised by international treaties, the ICAO considers the remaining "freedoms" "so-called".

Key open skies provisions

Most of the existing civil agreements include:

1. Free Market Competition:

No restrictions on international route rights; number of designated airlines; capacity; frequencies; and types of aircraft.

2. Pricing Determined by Market Forces:

A fare can be disallowed only if both governments concur -- "double-disapproval pricing" -- and only for certain, specified reasons intended to ensure competition.

3. Fair and Equal Opportunity to Compete:

For example:
* All carriers — designated and non-designated — of both countries may establish sales offices in the other country, and convert earnings and remit them in hard currency promptly and without restrictions. Designated carriers are free to provide their own ground-handling services — "self handling" — or choose among competing providers. Airlines and cargo consolidators may arrange ground transport of air cargo and are guaranteed access to customs services.
* User charges are non-discriminatory and based on costs; computer reservation system displays are transparent and non-discriminatory.

4. Cooperative Marketing Arrangements

Designated airlines may enter into code-sharing or leasing arrangements with airlines of either country, or with those of third countries, subject to usual regulations. An optional provision authorizes code-sharing between airlines and surface transportation companies.

5. Provisions for Dispute Settlement and Consultation

Model text includes procedures for resolving differences that arise under the agreement.

6. Liberal Charter Arrangements

Carriers may choose to operate under the charter regulations of either country.

7. Safety and Security

Each government agrees to observe high standards of aviation safety and security, and to render assistance to the other in certain circumstances.

8. Optional 7th Freedom All-Cargo Rights

Provide authority for an airline of one country to operate all-cargo services between the other country and a third country, via flights that are not linked to its homeland.

Looking at the Davao International, I notice it doesn't have taxiway. If the runway and taxiway is the same, isn't that going to slow down the movement of aircraft specially when the trickle becomes a deluge?

it does... but still no plans...

it does... but still no plans...

no budget for that i suppose

no budget for that i suppose

right on..but i think that it can be realized if somebody would really push for it... its kinda dangerouse to let the plane taxi on the main runway. we must remember the air phil incident here in davao. lets hope that they should realize their mistakes and build the taxiway asap...

all aribus na pala ang flights of cebu pac to and from davao to manila and cebu... only zambo to davao v.v. nalang ang dc9...

yeah... only dvo-zamboanga...

ok so international flights in DC recap lang

existing

singapore, manado and palau

come august macau

also planned (from the davao thread)

5J dvo-singapore and dvo-hongkong (announced by the 5j flight attendants during dvocity's cousin's 5J flight)

narita (studies pa lang)

anyway, how is the davao-manado flight doing anyway?

actually, no idea... hm... pero tagal tagal narin ang existence ng flyt noh? so baka malaks... Ewan