http://www.upside-down.ca/sdphotos/ttrender.jpg


checkout the developpment page, theres a whack load of other projects:
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=511

Beautiful! One of best Trump Towers ever I seen! :banana:

great, what is the use of tower? units? office?
what is roof height?
am i right in saying the spire is still lower then one canadian place antenna?

just saw description. its mixed use. what mix?
roof height looks 275m? with plant 282m? base of spire 300m?
cheers guys

what a gorgeous building! great for toronto! such a great buidling!

Doesn't fit with Toronto's vertical boxes.

Isn't this project really old?

Doesn't fit with Toronto's vertical boxes.

I don't see how. This design is just a box too.
Not meaning that in a negative way, it is very nice and I think it fits perfectly with Toronto.

:tiasd:
First Canadian place will be Toronto's sears tower and Trump will be the Petronas.

great, what is the use of tower? units? office?
what is roof height?
am i right in saying the spire is still lower then one canadian place antenna?

Spot on Culwulla. The spire will reach 325 while the antenna on FCP will still be 355m.

It is going to be a Hotel-Condo mix.
It will be in direct competition with Ritz-Carlton, 4 Seasons, Shangrila. All should finish around 2009-2010.

one of the best tower trump towers i ever seen but my favorite still the one in LV

The height is 1,064 ft. spire (324.3m) 988 ft. roof (301.1m) according to Urban Toronto: http://p083.ezboard.com/ftorontoskyscraperforumfrm4.showMessage?topicID=5085.topic

This figure was likely obtained from the latest planning doc.

The old planning doc is here (with old height):
http://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/2003/agendas/committees/to/to030121/it010b.pdf
but there was a slight height increase after that document was released. I remember Mr. Man announced it awhile back.

What a nice building! I much prefer Trump Tower Chicago, but this is still good.

Isn't this project really old?

yeah! i think i saw this quite some time ago.

well, great news, that it is now approved ;)

DAmn, this building is beautiful. You could even say from the side it evokes the GE building in NY, with its staggering and such. annnd it changes appearance from different angles. congrats toronto

This Trump building is fairly nice.....if u dont count the quail like crown with its "Petronas spire".....and already been done in NYC...concrete in to glass molding on the first hundred feet of the building....other than that is nice.

This Trump building is fairly nice.....if u dont count the quail like crown with its "Petronas spire".....and already been done in NYC...concrete in to glass molding on the first hundred feet of the building....other than that is nice.

:lol:

I wonder if they will actually put lights on the top of Trump Toronto?

It's a shame that it isn't taller. It would have made TO's skyline look much better to have one tower, in the middle of that great cluster, that really stands above the rest. The cluster will definitely be enhanced by this building but there are too many towers of similar height. There will be more chances in the future though.

It's a shame that it isn't taller. It would have made TO's skyline look much better to have one tower, in the middle of that great cluster, that really stands above the rest. The cluster will definitely be enhanced by this building but there are too many towers of similar height. There will be more chances in the future though.

Hehehe

If this tower gets chopped down in height, it will be useless.

there should be a few more renderings
http://www.condohotelcenter.com/images/trump-toronto-skyline2.jpg

http://www.torontotrumptower.com/trump3.jpg

http://www.torontotrumptower.com/trump1.jpg

http://www.torontotrumptower.com/trump2.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a259/TOBoy/TrumpToronto_DayNorth_75x10.jpg

WOW! BEAUTIFUL!!!!!!!! Donald Trump has a proposed Trump Tower in Seattle and we, Seattle people are still waiting to hear his details... I can't wait to see the rendering of Seattle Trump Tower! :banana:

I wish Trump would build something in Australia. I love the largeness of his developments.

^^ Maybe he will... Never know... Like no one in Seattle would think Donald Trump would come along and build his tower here... He shocked entire city of Seattle including me. It could happen same thing to your country too.

Hopefully this project goes ahead at its original height, will just have to wait and see I guess.

The project has indeed been severly reduced in height. It, sadly, does not belong here anymore.

Can somebody close this thread?

^^ That sucks! :( I'm sorry to hear that.

Looks like a great tower, it doesn't really fit with the other towers, but it's still an excellent piece of architecture.

The project has indeed been severly reduced in height. It, sadly, does not belong here anymore.

Can somebody close this thread?

do you know the new height?

the thread name is correct, the final OMB decision allows this building to reach 70 stories. That is pretty final, it's not likely to change. But i belive they were shooting higher? the toronto planning department i belive originally caped it at 60-65 floors, something like that. There was a rivelry between this tower and stinson's proposed sapphire tower, of which he was proposing 80 stories, that has also been severely cut down *sigh* oh well... one day! ^^

considering the reduction hasnt been approved yet, lets not jump the gun just yet.

'So when does some actually work happen around that place?

new height is 280.1m or 919 ft

^I'd be pretty angry if I bought there and they tried to pull this on me.

Very nice! Toronto´s Skyline is getting even better!

Ugh! Why does almost every great building has to be reduced!?!?!? :bash:

I wish Trumptoronto would comment on the height thing here for us.

^^


Hey! Sorry for disappearing for a bit. Had a spring break with my kids in there... and have been a bit busy.

Yes. The building is now planned to be 57-storeys. There are still a few design details to finalize, but that's where we are currently at.

There were a number of reasons why this came about, the most important being related to financing, construction start and an expected completion date window that must be met for purchasers. The bottom line is, with the financing agreement in place, the building starts construction and everyone wins. Without it... it remains a parking lot for a while longer.

In regards to deposits being held for 5-6 years? Umm, no. Sales started in Sept 2004. Not prior. We've sold over $250 million to date. Not exactly something to sneeze at. And sales are ongoing... and have had a little bump thanks to the financing announcement. Everyone seems to forget, that without Trump Toronto, Ritz-Carlton, Four Seaons, Shangri-La, etc., were apprehensive about entering the high-end luxury market in Toronto. And following our sucess, they are now moving forward with their own projects. Everyone thought we were crazy to charge $1,000-a sq. ft. And we proved it could be done. So our competition has followed suite. We were also the first to market, sell and now, soon build luxury hotel condominiums on this scale. This building is full of "firsts" for the Toronto market. So, of course, it hasn't gone as smoothly or quickly as other less-ambitious projects. But, it will be built!

As it stands right now, the building will be about 919 ft / 280.1 m. So, it will be a little bit shorter, about 145 ft (vs. the 70-storey tower). If I recall, the 68-storey version was 1,017 ft. So, we're losing about 100-ft from the original 68-storey version of the tower. Which I believe is still taller than the original 60/65-storey Ritz version of the tower. No, we won't be cracking the 1,000-ft. barrier, but a 900-ft building is still pretty significant--in any city!

Regarding the number of units. We're really not losing much per se, as we added a few units per floor in some of the hotel levels and residential levels when we redesigned the building to be 70-stories. Essentially, we will have about the same # of suites when the project was originally 68-stories.

Floors: 68 / 70 / 57

Hotel suites 265 / 291 / 261
Resid suites 109 / 147 / 118
Total suites 374 / 438 / 379

It's not as bad as it all sounds here. Do we wish we were building 70-stories. Of course. But bottom-line, we are thrilled that the building is moving forward with construction and look forward to seeing many of you there at the groundbreaking later this year.

Very hot :cool:

The Toronto skyline is one of my favorites. :cheers:

rumours are that Trump has applied for a height decrease (of about 40 meters) due to slow sales... meanwhile Yorkville's Four Seasons flagship tower and the Ritz Carlton have sold like hotcakes.. Toronto's condo/real estate market is booming but Trump has had some real problems tapping into this... we'll see what happens as nothing is official yet.

Trump hasn't been selling because many don't believe that it will actually be built.

They started selling this tower in 2004, 3 years later the place is still a parking lot.

Unfortunately, with the Seasons and Ritz and SL moving forward with their towers, Trump is losing any first movers adventage that ever had. But sales should pick up again when they finally start building something.

i wish he would build one in London! or England

frankfurt main :D

He wants to build some stuff in Bucharest. :)
http://www.nineoclock.ro/index.php?page=detalii&categorie=business&id=20070404-509579

This building is really ugly in my opinion and I wish it were not even being built. It does not fit in with Toronto's other buildings at all. Doesn't even complement them. It just looks awkward.

Now Ritz Carlton and Four Seasons and Shangri-La. Those are nice.

Not so bad, also not so good.

Classy looking building. However, I think I still like the more modern looking tower in Chicago.

go Trump go build some more ..build them all

Damn! So cute! First supertall.. maybe second come suddenly :)

Man Trump is building all over the whole fantastic buildings :cheers:

Trump hasn't been selling because many don't believe that it will actually be built.

They started selling this tower in 2004, 3 years later the place is still a parking lot.

Unfortunately, with the Seasons and Ritz and SL moving forward with their towers, Trump is losing any first movers adventage that ever had. But sales should pick up again when they finally start building something.

Contrary to popular opinion on these boards and from real estate agents in TO, sales are just fine at Trump Toronto ($275-million last time I checked). Despite all the naysayers and non-believers, construction is planned to begin in September (I have the hoarding plan right in front of me). We'll see you there!

Has there been talk of a height decrease as ratoronto says or can we still expect it to be 324m?

It has been deceased. I think it's 280 now, 57 floors.

Hmm I want to swear or maybe smash something... What the hell this was supposed to be Canada's first 300+ building!?!

^^ Try Ritalin! Most calming...

Location Location Location...and this project never had it...trump or not.

I guess this isn't a supertall anymore.. ?

This fits with the rest of the downtown, but any idea if and when it actually will start construction?

I guess this isn't a supertall anymore.. ?

925 feet is still a pretty tall building :)

This fits with the rest of the downtown, but any idea if and when it actually will start construction?

As mentioned earlier in this thread, construction is scheduled to begin in September.

As mentioned earlier in this thread, construction is scheduled to begin in September.

Yes scheduled, but things can change no? It just seems like ages ago this was announced, and units have been for sale for quite awhile.

I wish they had thought of atleast a 400m + tower. :bash:

Whoever say's that this tower doesn't fit in well with it's surroundings must be taking some sort of hallucinogenic drugs. It couldn't compliment the other buildings any better than it already does as seen from the renders. Very nice building and a great addition to the Toronto skyline imo.

It has been deceased. I think it's 280 now, 57 floors.

Is this confirmed fact? If so, I'll change the thread title and--with disappointment--move it to the Highrises subforum.

Nobody knows yet.. there has been no final word yet. As soon as there has been an official statement, it will probably be reported here.

925 feet is still a pretty tall building :)

My point is, if this is no longer a supertall then it does not belong in the Supertall Development Forums.

Get this fuking building built already!!! C'MON!!!!

This is getting ridiculous...

925 feet is still a pretty tall building :)

In the new world of 2000ft skyscrapers, 925ft is medium height. The standard of what constitutes tall has shifted dramatically in the past few years. 925ft was tall circa 1995 or prior. Not everything needs to be tall, but lets get real here, TrumpToronto is a midget compared to what is being built these days. Add another 400-700ft and you're in tall territory.

In the new world of 2000ft skyscrapers, 925ft is medium height. The standard of what constitutes tall has shifted dramatically in the past few years. 925ft was tall circa 1995 or prior. Not everything needs to be tall, but lets get real here, TrumpToronto is a midget compared to what is being built these days. Add another 400-700ft and you're in tall territory.

But saying that, Trump wouldn't build a 1500 footer in Toronto. There are more important sites in his mind in the USA. One would imagine he will build a HUGE tower in LA some day. Or perhaps Houston? San Francisco? Etc.

Nice tower we'll see what will be next

But saying that, Trump wouldn't build a 1500 footer in Toronto. There are more important sites in his mind in the USA. One would imagine he will build a HUGE tower in LA some day. Or perhaps Houston? San Francisco? Etc.

No, he probably wouldn't build a 1500 ft tower in Toronto especially with all the competition he is getting in this city. The Shangri-La, Ritz, Four Seasons, etc. are all competing with his proposal and selling better than his. Trump's crassness certainly isn't helping sales either.

That said, 1500 ft towers are probably going to be office towers not residential, regardless of where you are in the world.

^Burj Dubai

yeah go toronto go

But saying that, Trump wouldn't build a 1500 footer in Toronto. There are more important sites in his mind in the USA. One would imagine he will build a HUGE tower in LA some day. Or perhaps Houston? San Francisco? Etc.


Trump ain't building anything in Toronto. His 'name' was brought in strictly for marketing purposes which is probably one of the biggest bonehead blunders of this current boom - he has no appeal here

I hate this design! I dunno why they tried to put the dome like thing at the top! And GREEN! Why green!!!!?? :bash:

This fits with the rest of the downtown, but any idea if and when it actually will start construction?

Construction starts Sept 18th, Barricades will be up Sept 4th.

Trump ain't building anything in Toronto. His 'name' was brought in strictly for marketing purposes which is probably one of the biggest bonehead blunders of this current boom - he has no appeal here


It will absolutely be built, 100% probability. This building is over 80% sold right now so it is a no-brainer. Talon is majority owner and Trump has a small minority interest so it is a bit more than just marketing Valentino.

Contrary to popular opinion on these boards and from real estate agents in TO, sales are just fine at Trump Toronto ($275-million last time I checked). Despite all the naysayers and non-believers, construction is planned to begin in September (I have the hoarding plan right in front of me). We'll see you there!

The hotel sales have been phenomenal, a big advantage over the Ritz and 4 seasons who are not selling hotel units. However, nobody at Talon/Trump is happy with the laggish condo sales which drove this building down to 57 stories from 70 stories so they could get their financing.

Talon is majority owner and Trump has a small minority interest so it is a bit more than just marketing Valentino.

It's Valantino and minority interest amounting to a condo hotel .... ooooooo they could of brought in Harry Stinson for that

That said, 1500 ft towers are probably going to be office towers not residential, regardless of where you are in the world.

The Chicago Spire (2,000 ft.) will be residential.

It's Valantino and minority interest amounting to a condo hotel .... ooooooo they could of brought in Harry Stinson for that

Bringing Stinson in would have only assured it stayed a vacant lot. You'll come around when construction starts Sept 18th.

Trump is funding the construction of his new projects less and less. You have far greater reach when you get a partner to do it instead. Trump is in the business today of selling his brand more than building if you haven't noticed. (ie: WWF, bottled water, Trump University, Trump Steaks). He is smart enough to get a stake in the buildings though when he sells his brand along with a nice management contract when the building is complete. I hope that clears things up Valentine.

Trump ain't building anything in Toronto. His 'name' was brought in strictly for marketing purposes which is probably one of the biggest bonehead blunders of this current boom - he has no appeal here

Valantino. A blunder? Over $275-million in sales to date isn't exactly a blunder. I'd say that's a fair amount of "appeal."

^Burj Dubai

I know, but I did say probably. MOST of the tallest buildings that are built are not residential. The Burj Dubai is an exception, not the norm. If the Chicago Spire is residential, same goes for that.

Priciest condo in tallest tower goes to youngest billionaire
August 11, 2007
Tony Wong
Toronto Star

In the battle for one-upmanship in Toronto's luxury real estate market, Alex Shnaider has revealed a convincing hand.

The enigmatic Toronto billionaire says in an exclusive interview he has decided to keep what has been billed as Canada's most expensive condominium, valued at up to $20 million, at the Trump International Hotel & Tower for himself.

A work in progress, his mansion in the sky could be as large as 14,000 square feet, and will have, in some areas, soaring 9-metre ceilings.

"You can put an observatory up there. It's a great place to get away from the wife if we ever have a fight," joked Shnaider.

While New York billionaire Donald Trump is the brand, Shnaider, at 39 Canada's youngest billionaire, is the financial muscle behind the ultra-luxury project in the city's financial district.

The most expensive condo sold in the city so far is thought to be former Bank of Montreal CEO Tony Comper's One St. Thomas penthouse at $15 million.

Shnaider – whom Forbes says is the 557th richest man in the world with a net worth of $1.8 billion (U.S.) – will presumably give himself a respectable friends-and-family discount, but his is an expensive pied-à-terre. He is already building a magnificent new home in Toronto, less than half an hour away.

And it's not as if he's living in squalor now. His current 15,000-square-foot residence is a traditional stone mansion put together in 2000 by celebrity designer Katherine Newman. The property was listed for $10.9 million (Cdn.) two years ago when he was thinking of relocating to Russia, but it was taken off the market after he decided to keep his headquarters in Toronto.

The home is stunning, decorated in a traditional English manor style, but the security-conscious billionaire allowed the Star a rare glimpse of his residence only if its location not be revealed. In the garage is a gleaming silver $450,000 (U.S.) Mercedes SLR McLaren, barely 2,000 kilometres on the odometer.

A car nut, he most famously bought a Formula One team in 2005 for $50 million and sold it last year for $106.6 million.

Other toys include a 170-foot Benetti yacht, the Midlandia, (which sleeps 12 and rents for a mere $270,000 a week when he's not using it) and a private jet.

How did Shnaider get this rich?

His private company Midland Group, which he runs with London-based partner Eduard Shifrin (number 538 on the Forbes list at $1.9 billion) has diverse holdings, including steel mills in the Ukraine, the national power grid of Armenia, real estate, retail malls, and manufacturing in Russia and Siberia. The company has 34 offices and more than 50,000 employees and earnings in excess of $2 billion annually.

And Shnaider, it seems, is putting some of that money where his mouth is – at least with his $500 million (Cdn.) Toronto venture.

Rumours have persisted at the Trump site on Bay and Adelaide Sts. that sales were poor and the project was destined for failure.

Shnaider was taking a three-week break with his family on the Midlandia – he may have been in the waters of Turkey at the time, or it could have been Greece – when the call came that news had broken in the Toronto Star that his 70-storey Trump International Hotel & Tower was going to be downsized and eleven residential floors, including two hotel floors, lopped off.

"The hotel part of the sales was always doing well. Residential sales were a problem," says Shnaider.

"A lot of buyers were buying for themselves, usually people working on Bay St. and, because of the skepticism, when they didn't know a date they are quite reluctant. This is especially true for the larger, more expensive units because you have talk on the street that it won't be built."

But Shnaider said he expects construction to start in September. He also says 75 per cent of the building is sold. Over the past two and a half years, the developer says, approximately $275 million worth of property has been sold.

The original plans called for only four residential units per floor, but that had to be changed, he says.

"We needed to stimulate sales because the units were very big and expensive and they weren't selling as fast as we would have liked," he says candidly. "We ended up making this six units per floor to make it more affordable."

The higher density meant that something had to go, says Shnaider.

But even with 13 fewer storeys, the high ceiling heights in the building will still make it the tallest residential tower in the city, he says.

"We ended up with more units than we were allowed to have for engineering purposes. To provide the amount of service necessary, we couldn't do it with the higher density, we really had to make the building smaller," he says.

When the building was shortened, there was skepticism from some in the real estate community that the rationale was pure spin to explain falling sales.

In an earlier Star story, one of Shnaider's executives said one reason for the height reduction was "the more residents we had, the more elevators were going to be used, and that wasn't what we wanted in an exclusive building like Trump." (Four elevators are designated for residents for the 57 habitable floors, although the building may be two stories higher to allow for mechanical systems.)

What is known is that sales for the tower started in September 2004, three years before the proposed start of construction. In comparison, it took competitor Ritz Carlton 14 months to break ground.

But the buck stops with Shnaider, who is remarkably frank during the interview. He says he isn't sure why the $500 million project didn't sell as well as expected initially, although sales have been better since the smaller suites were introduced.

"We were certainly asking very high prices at the time. But we may have been too early for the market," he says, noting that the Four Seasons and the Shangri-La hotel brands now have condominiums selling in Toronto.

"We started at $700 a square foot, which was unheard of back then and now we're over a thousand a square foot. But I think the market has caught up."

His purchase of the penthouse, meanwhile, may prompt skepticism that Shnaider couldn't find a buyer for the pricey property. But he insists that he's buying because "it's a good investment."

One gets the sense that Shnaider would break ground if only as a point of pride – whether it made money or not. But the business person in him seems resolute: "If this were a loss-making venture, I wouldn't go ahead," he says.

Shnaider has shown he knows when to cut and run: He sold the Formula 1 Team in short order because he couldn't find a Russian sponsor. "We underestimated the interest of Russian companies, thinking they would embrace it more than they did," he says.

And, despite the prominence of the Trump project, it is only one small part of his diverse holdings.

Over the past two months, for example, he has rolled out a new convenience store chain in the Ukraine, tapping the need for modern community-based retail. He plans to open 1,500 stores in the next several years.

But the Trump project is the most visible part of his empire, especially since it's in his backyard.

"I wanted to build something important in the city, something I could be proud of," he says.

By the time Shnaider bought the site, the Trump Tower was already steeped in controversy. "I knew from the beginning this wouldn't be an easy project," he says.

The site was initially supposed to have been a Ritz Carlton hotel and condominium, with Donald Trump as a partner, when it was first announced in 2001.

That soon fizzled after the Star revealed one of the original partners had been convicted of bankruptcy fraud and embezzlement in the United States and had fled to Canada. The Ritz Carlton backed out, eventually finding a new site years later at Simcoe and Wellington Sts.

Meanwhile, the original location was sold to Shnaider and his development company. Trump remained as a partner and his brand was put on the hotel – the flamboyant developer's first venture at the time outside the United States.

It seemed like an ideal match: Two billionaires who exemplified the high life would be creating one of the world's tallest and most luxurious residencies in Toronto.

In many ways the building symbolized the loftiness of Shnaider's ambition. To say his rise was meteoric seems almost like an understatement, since he formed the holding company Midland Resources only in 1994 at the age of 26.

Born in St. Petersburg, Shnaider moved to North York when he was 13. His parents, an engineer and a dentist, ended up buying a deli.

Shnaider went to William Lyon Mackenzie C.I. while helping his parents in the deli. He later studied economics at York University.

With help from his politically connected future father-in-law, Shnaider ended up in the steel business, eventually setting up his own steel trading shop in Russia. One of his big customers was the Zaporizhstal plant in eastern Ukraine, one of the country's largest steel producers. With privatization in the '90s, after the collapse of the Soviet Union, Shnaider and his partner Shifrin, an academic with a PhD in metallurgical engineering, formed Midland. They eventually bought the Zaporizhstal plant.

From there, they built a substantial collection of assets throughout Eastern Europe.

The steel plant acquisition was perfect timing, as prices for the material started to jump with the economic rise of India and China. Now the industry is in major consolidation, with steel mills fetching hefty premiums. Asked whether he would sell, Shnaider says with a smile, "Everything is for sale. ... But we are concentrating on other areas such as retail and real estate."

It continues to be a sore point with the self-made billionaire, however, that a negative stigma seems to surround successful Russians.

He wrote a letter to Forbes after a mostly laudatory profile of him in 2005 that referred to the "murky" world of Russian business.

"There is this stereotype that was especially strong during the '90s that every Russian who is successful or made money must have done so through connections with the mafia, or arms dealing or prostitution, which I find really offensive," he says. "But Russians are incredibly educated people who are fast learners and willing to work hard. That is the stereotype you don't hear about as much."

Time is precious for Shnaider, who travels constantly, including an appointment in New York this day. He glances at his oversized watch, a $150,000 Audemars Piguet Royal Oak tourbillion. After saying goodbye to his guests, he slips into a jacket by Neapolitan tailor Attolini.

Then it's into the sports car and a brisk drive to his waiting jet.

thanks again hkskyline:banana: :banana:

^Sounds like a decadent jagoff.

can someone move this to Highrises?

damn dude^^ this is not a highrise it's a supertall(300m+)
Duh!!:crazy:

please move this thread to highrises...and correct the building information.

Moderator please!!

August 19th, 2007 ..today is September 13th, 2007.

Almost a month, eh?

So we've known about the reduction in hieght for a while...


And construction is starting shortly...

I should post a picture of the excavation equipment which is on site now

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd93/sunman77/IMG_2209.jpg

demo of the Trump Toronto Sales Office -

Construction should start on Monday

on monday? that's wonderful :)

Why is this building even in the supertall section??? Wasn't the height lowered??? Please move it to where it belongs.

YES THE HEIGHT WAS LOWERED........ :bash:

I don't know why it is in this thread....

It's not our fault it's in here...It should be in the Highrises section.

Shoring Equipment at Trump..

http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/8230/trumpbumpja6.jpg

what's the UC - tower in the right?

Bay Adelaide Centre

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=386743

very crowded construction block.

Bay Adelaide Centre

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=386743

cool, thx :)

Finally U/C.

What's the height of this one now?

280m and 57 floors?

to bad the height on this one was lowered. it will still look good im sure!

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20071012/donald_trump_071012/20071012?hub=TopStories&s_name=

Fri. Oct. 12 2007 5:11 PM ET

Donald Trump's "gold shovel" has officially made its mark on downtown Toronto.
The renowned businessman broke ground at the future site of Toronto's Trump International Hotel and Tower on Friday.
The 900-foot building will be located at the southeast corner of Bay and Adelaide streets, and promises to be "an incredible new standard of luxurious living," according to the building's website.
"It will be five-star -- at least," Donald Trump told CTV Newsnet after the ceremony.
Tower suites, already up for sale, cost between $1.6 million and $19 million. Penthouses carry a $19-million price tag.
Construction is scheduled to be completed by 2010.
"At the opening ceremony, you'll see one of the most beautiful buildings in North America," Trump said.
"More than $300 million worth of apartments have already been sold -- already, it's a success."

The building was originally slated to be 70-storeys high, but the planned height was recently dropped down to 57 storeys.

Rumours have attributed the scaling back to poor sales, but Trump said elevator construction was the issue.

"We changed the design a little bit because of elevator service ... the elevator companies didn't want to go to that level," Trump said.

"It's the same size building, but it's actually of a higher quality."
The project, a joint venture with Talon International Development, is the only one of its kind in Canada.
When asked why he chose Toronto over other Canadian locations, such as Montreal and Vancouver, Trump said he loves the city -- and the prime downtown location tipped the scales.
"We were able to buy the single, best piece of land in Toronto," Trump said.

The original Trump International Hotel and Tower is located in New York. Projects are planned for other cities worldwide, including Dubai, UAE; Panama City, Panama; and Aberdeen, Scotland.

Great news! There's some pics of Trump's visit in the Toronto section as well as a rendering of the new tower. This will be a fantastic addition to the skyline. I have been waiting on this tower, through it's many reincarnations, since I joined this forum many years ago. The MINTT core will be unbelievably dense!

Looks very nice im ust hoping trump decides to build in Dallas that would be great!

Here's the new rendering.

Pics by 3Dementia at urbantoronto.

http://www.upside-down.ca/sdphotos/tttop.jpg

http://www.upside-down.ca/sdphotos/ttrender.jpg

I am getting tired of this thing, it has always been in the conversation, but nothing has really happened yet. It used to be my favorite residential building in toronto, now I will put my money on Shangri-la over this.

Well at least he was in town for the official groundbreaking. Maybe now it will actually start construction.

the new render looks good but i've my doubts it is over 300m

I still think this is a great building, despite the technical/financial difficulties bringing the whole thing to reality. It's going to fit well with 1 King West (already built) and provide a nice residential offering for downtown Bay street folks. Too bad about the height reduction. But I'm not sure that a residential building should be the tallest in Canada anyways. Maybe it's fate!!

^^ It's not the tallest in Canada. It's second tallest, after First Canadian Place. It's the tallest resedential building in Canada.

It seems they changed the design a bit.
But I hope they will build it with the green facade.

It would have been, but for the height reduction (First Canadian is 310m, Trump was originally 325 m). Cheers!!

TORCH: The design has been changed, and it does not have a green facade anymore. It's blue.

CORAL BUILDER: First Canadian is 298m (355m including antennaes), not 310m. Also, the original height for Trump Toronto was 324m, not 325m.

And what used to be a sales centre (I don't know when they took it down), is now a tractor and a ... machine that digs for oil???

that scotiabank logo is going to be almost completely obscured once trump goes up, i wonder if theyll take it down.
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/7852/img0383ny5.jpg

and theres also a little bilboard of it, not sure if weve see this before either though.
http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/1452/img0382vy5.jpg

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd93/sunman77/IMG_0161.jpg


..

Imagine this area with Trump (280m +) + Bay Adelaide (217m) + RBC (183m) + Ritz Carlton (213m) all U/C

http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/812/img7969copy6br.jpg

the new rendering is semi great, i love the original though. but good for the T

I like the new elongated spire.. better proportions.

Canadian74, Wow.. My mistake. What does that change anyway? It would have been better if you actually read my original post, instead of forcing me to correct you, nicely.

This project went from being spectacular to average. Quite frankly, I don't buy into his elevator excuse.

Imagine this area with Trump (280m +) + Bay Adelaide (217m) + RBC (183m) + Ritz Carlton (213m) all U/C

http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/812/img7969copy6br.jpg

OK, who has the skills to place the Trump rendering into this picture???

Stolen from WhistlerinMuskoka
-Definitely U/C

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2266/1572586351_eac91c8841_b.jpg

281.9m to the top of the spire and 256.9m to the top of the roof

nice tower! :cheers:

The thread header needs to be modified...

The spire is 25 metres? Well, it will look better having the shorter 257.9 metres Trump with a 25 metre spire (281.9 metre total) considering that there's a 275 metre tower on one side, and a 298 metre tower on the other. Having 3 almost identically tall buildings would have looked less interesting than the height variation that this will provide.

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/8121/twryn0.jpg

oops

that diagram is in need of an update.. 1 Bloor's roof height is the same as Scotia Plaza plus crown(20-30m) will make it around 295-305m total) The design has also changed- in favor of a boxier shape.

Nov 3, 2007

(Ed007toronto)
http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/1223/trumpnov3071lo2.jpg

Definitely U/C

Here's the new rendering.

Pics by 3Dementia at urbantoronto.

http://www.upside-down.ca/sdphotos/tttop.jpg

http://www.upside-down.ca/sdphotos/ttrender.jpg

The spire looks like it has a lot of height, i wonder what height the roof would be at, and where on the building the roof is. It looks like the spire base had windows now

i really like the colouring of the new render.. but the top really annoys me and will hopefully turn out different and nicer.

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/6611/twrzhh5.jpg

Here we go :) not the best but it's alright. The crown in the render looks like it had a lot of height so this is just assuming it's 30 meters

I'm not sure what it is but I'm just not quite feeling this Trump project like the others. Maybe i'll change my mind when some more renders come out or after its built...

look at the above diagram...i'm sure you'll be feeling 1 Bloor! :cheers:

don't laugh....

http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/8888/torlm4.jpg

ok laugh! *points at mspaint*

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2081/1903202795_9324798f79_o.jpg

I really love this one. It's the best looking Trump Tower after the one going up in Chicago.

No laughing, Kamuix95, you are doing an amazing job!

Nov 12, 2007


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Work has commenced......

Fabulous!!!

Should the title be actually changed to U/C?

Wow, they're really going like a bat out of hell. :|

Good updates,

Definitely glad to see this project is under way

Today from current

Photo taken today looking down into the excavated area in the southwest corner. I could not see what they were doing.

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Looking west, more drilling.

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I think the status was U/C for the past month or so.

Nice... They finally started.

Click on the images for the pdf file
http://www.arplus.com/MIPIM/entries/exhibitor_178.html

Haha! For so many years I've been looking at this project wondering and hoping, and it's finally begun!

I can't say if I l actually like the design all that much, but I do think the turquoise/blue of most the facade offsets the red of Scotia Tower well.

It may be shorter now but it's still going to be a great addition to Toronto's skyline.

Went by the site yesterday - very active - a lot of digging.

Wow, 280 and it's barely going to be visible from any sides.:lol:

I have updated shots of this...

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That's crazy strong for hoarding. The sidewalks are going to be a mess in this intersection.

Yea, I saw them putting that up yesterday. At least it will be safe! I wonder why they went so overboard though?

Yea, I saw them putting that up yesterday. At least it will be safe! I wonder why they went so overboard though?

Its Trump... watch it be fully enclosed and heated too. lol

^^ Heated sidewalks too. He doesn't want any people slipping on that ice, he doesn't want any lawsuits.

Very nice update from current in the Toronto forums:

Thank you for your positive comments, I will continue to take photos of the construction of the Trump tower. These photos were taken January 28. Corner of Bay and Adelaide, there is now hoarding on Adelaide and the construction trailers have been installed on top of the Bay St. hoarding.

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From Bay Street, beside the National Club they are building a stairway to
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Looking east. The pylon is on top of one of the installed steel beams.
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You can see the Bay Adelaide Centre's crane reflected in the building on the other side of Bay St.
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can someone changed App to U/C?

Update from current in the Toronto forum:

February 25

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Of note: The construction crew has increased in size from two people to three.

I drove past the site the other day (sorry no camera).
I cannot believe that such a tall building is going to be built
on such a small site! No wonder the construction trailers are
above the sidewalks. (there is no room for them!)

steady progress now on the Trump excavation...lots of debris present from previous buildings on the site...pics by current of SSC and urbantoronto

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Surprising that there's so much debris -- even this deep into the ground. Parking garage? Very decent progress... for the construction crew... of 3 people.

from Daily Commercial News:

May 12, 2008

Construction team ready to raise cranes on Trump’s Toronto site

TORONTO

Construction is well under way on Toronto’s $500-million Trump International Hotel & Tower, located at 325 Bay Street, in the heart of the city’s financial and business district.

With excavation and drilling nearing an end, the developers and construction team begin preparing for the next chapter of expansion.

The five-star, 60-storey, project ceremonially broke ground on October 12, 2007, and official construction began November 12, 2007.

As Toronto remains a hot spot during a period of increased activity in the construction sector, access to trades people continues to be a challenge for the industry as a whole.

In terms of the next visible signs of construction, cranes will be raised on the site during the weekend of May 31st, and concrete is scheduled to be poured for the footings of the building shortly thereafter.

The footings of this building will be nine feet deep, as opposed to the standard size that typically measure between two to three feet.

“I have never seen such unusually deep footings, and this is testament to the height and slenderness of the building, which will truly be impressive,” said Lyndon Devaney, Principal Architect with Zeidler Partnership Architects.

finally!

A great article posted by current in the Toronto forums about the constraints of the tight plot of land that Trump is currently facing just before it rises. Interesting to note that the height is so close to that of 1 Bloor (282 m).


Toronto Star article:

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ILLUSTRATION BY ED SCHNURR FOR THE TORONTO STAR

Lofty plans
Luxury hotel-condo being built on five-and-dime lot presents some logistical problems . . . and some interesting solutions
May 31, 2008

Stephen Weir
SPECIAL TO THE STAR

Shoe-horning a luxury hotel and condo tower into the hyper-crowded financial district of downtown Toronto is forcing Donald Trump's real estate company to think small while building tall.

The 924-foot (282 metre) Trump International Hotel and Tower is finally underway and a hole is being dug in a miniscule plot of land for the 60-storey tower at the southeast corner of Adelaide and Bay Sts. A team of architects and builders are importing both workers and different construction techniques to build a $500-million tower – with suites starting at $900,000 for the hotel condos and ranging from $1.8 million to $20 million for the residences – where a five-and-dime store used to stand. Both the hotel condos and the residence condos can be rented out as hotel rooms by owners.

Two Canadian companies, Zeidler Partnership Architects and Wright Builds, have been hired by the Trump Organization to construct one of Canada's tallest residential buildings and perhaps Toronto's first five-star hotel. Their lofty plans must be executed without bringing traffic in the financial district to a standstill, and without hindering other nearby construction projects. The project site – where the old Bay St. Woolworth department store stood – is almost completely surrounded by tall buildings including the oversized Bay Adelaide Centre (three buildings: 43, 49 and 51 storeys) currently under construction right across the street.

The image of billionaire real estate magnate and TV personality Donald Trump has always been huge. His buildings, like his own persona, are larger than life. But here in Toronto, the design of Trump's first Canadian property is a study in accommodation.

"Well, for starters," says architect Tarek El-Khatib, senior partner with Zeidler, "there was concern from the city about the building's parking garage (and how it will affect Adelaide St. traffic). We handled that issue by having an upside-down plan – the garage is up, not down. People will be entering off Adelaide and loading and unloading on the second floor of the building."

"We really flipped our way of thinking," says David Eng, Zeidler's Trump project manager. "In most big buildings, the structure extends deep into the ground to anchor the building and to provide parking." At the Trump, the garage goes up seven storeys from the ground level and has 202 parking spots.

Owners of low riders need not apply for parking privileges; the gradient of the garage ramp will be very steep. "The ramp has been designed to accept a Crown Vic (Ford Motors luxury Crown Victoria automobile) – 97 per cent of all cars will be able to make it in," explains El-Khatib.

The big concern isn't tall SUVs (like, say, a Land Rover with roof rack) but ultra-low slung cars such as the Ferrari, or the Beverly Hills' style 20-person stretch luxury Hummer Limousine, which can't handle the ramp's angle.

But, be it a Bentley or a Volkswagen, no matter what condo owners and hotel guests drive into the Trump Tower's porte-cochère, they won't be permitted to park their own cars. Residents buy parking privileges, not individual spots. Trump valet staff will park all cars in stacked, two-to-a-level, auto storage units (bunk beds for cars).

Hotel and condo traffic enters the hotel eastbound along Adelaide. The ramped porte-cochère takes vehicles up to the second floor concierge station where drivers surrender their vehicles. Condo owners, not wanting to wait for their car to be brought out of storage, have round-the-clock use of two "residents-only" chauffeured S-class Mercedes, which is part of residents' condo fee.

It may be a steep ramp but it will be an artsy garage entrance. The City of Toronto requires that the Trump project spend $2 million on two pieces of public art. Since there won't be any open space, one of the art installations will be a ramp wall mural that can be seen by passing pedestrians.

The Trump building will descend only two storeys below grade, with much of that space to be used by delivery trucks and service vehicles. With its entrance off Bay, northbound trucks will enter the building and drive onto a large turntable built into the floor. The service vehicles will be mechanically turned around so that they can back into the loading docks. This round-house approach is a necessity, as there won't be enough room inside the Trump hotel for even a small-sized garbage truck to turn itself around.

During the day Bay St. is one of the busiest streets in Canada. It will be difficult for trucks to enter and exit the building during rush hours. Shipping firms will be required to plan ahead. Deliveries will be staged to take place before 7 a.m. and after 6 p.m.

The basement is a building's foundation – it is the anchor for everything that is built on top of it. With only a shallow basement, the soaring Trump Tower will have to take measures to make sure the building is firmly rooted to the ground.

"The nine-foot-thick foundation will float on bedrock," explained Eng. "There will be a concrete frame poured around the perimeter and we will use steel `tie-downs' to secure the foundation and we will pierce the sides (with horizontal tie-downs) to make sure the perimeter is equally anchored."

"We are still removing remnants of the old Woolworth's store from the site," says tall/small building expert Mark Garland, who is here from Seattle for the life of the project. The professional engineer and other technical experts have been brought in by Lewis Builds from its U.S. affiliate to oversee the construction of the glass and granite tower.

Since the Trump building will occupy almost every inch of land on the site, there is little space for heavy equipment and no room for Lewis Builds' construction shack. A plan to put a trailer on top of the historic National Club, directly south of the site, fell through. More than 50 designers, engineers and construction experts are now housed in a Lombard St. office several blocks east.

Tight quarters also means that only one tall crane will be erected on site. To make sure there isn't a case of duelling cranes overtop of the city's skyline, the placement of the equipment becomes a safety issue.

"Certainly crane placement is one of our concerns," said Garland. Pointing at a set of drawings, he shows how the arc of a crane currently on the Adelaide site swings within a breath of the edge of the Trump Tower hole. When his crane is erected, the long horizontal boom could easily move into the Adelaide project's airspace.

On most big building projects in Toronto, the high-towered cranes are used to lift wooden forms (used to construct interior concrete walls) from one floor to the next as the building project rises upwards. This is done by swinging the forms out away from the building and then lifting them up to the next floor where they are unloaded and used to create walls for the next floor.

Being so close to busy streets, pedestrians and the Adelaide project worksite has caused Lewis Builds to bring in a building system much favoured in crowded Asian cities, which greatly reduces the need for the cranes to swing material out over Bay and Adelaide Sts.

The forms will be lifted from floor to floor by way of a rail climbing system that is attached to the outside of the building. The tall and wide wooden forms are transported on a vertical set of tracks from one floor to the next without ever being swung out over the street.

"People won't see these automatic climbing systems," said Garland. "We will be tenting the building as we go, and the rails will be inside the tent (a three-storey covering that stops dust and building waste from blowing out onto the street)."

"We won't fill in the garage walls until way into the project," he continued. "We need it open so that we can stage our materials there. We will do the same at the building's Sky Lobby on the 33rd floor."

After the luxury multi-million dollar penthouses have been built (floors 54 to 60), a large sealed tank of water will be fixed on top of the roof to act as a counter-balance against high winds that will batter the tall, thin building.

"The curtain wall windows and natural stone are custom-built but will be installed rather quickly. People will think the building process is going slowly, but, when we start closing in the building, things will move fast!" says Garland, about the construction that began in late fall 2007. (The hotel section will open in December 2010 and the residences in March 2011.)

The height of the floor and the size of the windows are what the Trump Corporation believes will transform small into carriage trade. Each of the 118 luxury residences and 261 hotel guest rooms and suites will have floor-to-ceiling windows. The hotel suites have nine- and 10-foot ceilings, while the condominium residences will have 11- to 13-foot ceilings – surpassing the 10-foot ceilings that are considered premium height. The Grand Skyplex Penthouse Residences at the top boast ceilings up to 28 feet in height.

There will be no more than six suites per floor – with the majority of suites featuring direct, secure elevator access – offering spectacular views of Lake Ontario and the city below.


Toronto Star
http://yourhome.ca/homes/article/432040

Nice overview posted in the Toronto forum:

Nice aerial of the area...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3123/2559285415_0dcf52f25d_o.jpg

so toronto has 2 282m towers UC now :cheers:

Nice article posted by Taller, Better in the Toronto forum. The crane is being installed apparently so hopefully this will start rising out of the ground quickly.

From the Globe. Sounds to me like they have other projects lining up. link:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20080617.RTRUMP17/TPStory/?query=toronto+%27on+the+cusp+of+a+great+boom%27%2C+Trump+says


Business Ticker: REAL ESTATE

Toronto 'on the cusp of a great boom,' Trump says

LORI MCLEOD

REAL ESTATE REPORTER

June 17, 2008

The credit crunch has made real estate financing more expensive, but it is also creating opportunities for strong developers, said Ivanka Trump, head of development and acquisitions for The Trump Organization, in an interview in Toronto.

"Twelve months ago you were competing with every dentist-turned-developer who had commissioned a rendering and claimed to have a building and were trying to rally up enough presales to get financing. A lot of this would-be competition now fails to exist," said Ms. Trump, the 26-year-old daughter of real estate mogul Donald Trump.

Ms. Trump was in Toronto to check on the progress of the 60-storey Trump International Hotel & Tower, Toronto, which is being built at the corner of Bay and Adelaide Streets.

The $400-million project, being developed with Toronto-based Talon International Development Inc., will have a mix of luxury hotel and condo units. It is slated for completion in late 2010. As with all of their residential developments, the Trumps will manage the building to "maintain the integrity of the brand," Ms. Trump said.

The price of a residential unit in the Toronto development recently cracked the $1,550 per square foot mark. Positive response from buyers backs the company's view that corporations and executives would be attracted to the location a block north of Toronto's financial core, Ms. Trump said.

"I'd love to do more here ... We believe downtown [Toronto] is on the cusp of a great boom, especially in terms of the hotel as a feeder for all of the commercial development that's taking place," she said.

The Toronto project is one of 33 developments Ms. Trump is currently working on, with others in countries including the U.S., Dubai and Scotland.

So far, 85 per cent of the Toronto building's 261 hotel guest suites, and 61 of its 117 residential units have been sold. The remaining units will be released over the next three years, said Val Levitan, chief executive officer of the tower.

The largest group of purchasers by geography are Canadians and Americans at 25 per cent each. Corporations account for about 20 per cent of the units sold. The least expensive units, 525-square-foot hotel condos, are selling for about $900,000. Residential units, which start at 1,300 square feet, are selling for about $2-million.

according to a poster over at urbantoronto.ca, the Trump Toronto crane is finally up!! :cheers:

edit: Mods, we definitely need to change the title to U/C...thx

The erection has begun!! :)

Keep it coming !!!!

The erection has begun!! :)

:lol:

but...finally

2 pics of the Trump Toronto crane, courtesy of Geekaroo over at urbantoronto.ca.....

http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/9638/dsc00909wz2.jpg

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:applause:

And finally the thread status has changed as well. Rise, rise, rise!

Ok. Two things. I think that long arm excavator is really cool. Looks like some kind of spider. Second, I'd hate to work on the 8th floor of Scotia Plaza on the crane side, always wondering whether the crane operator is going to make an easy mistake and swing the crane into my office. Duck!!!

It lives! Very exciting :banana:

Tight squeeze too, not much room to manuever on that site.

The site is the size of many children's sandboxes that live in the Bridle Path.

another pic of the crane by Geekaroo at urbantoronto.ca...

so close to the surrounding offices!

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Finally, hopefully now things will move fairly quickly.

From Francely57 @ SSP

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Trump crane in the lower right
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Thx for the updates, Skybean! Nice to see cement being poured at the Trump site...:)

That crane was hard to spot. Here's a better shot of it.

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Courtesy of Mike in TO at urbantoronto

how many trump skyscrapers are there around the globe?

I was wondering that too. There's obviously the one in New York, one being built in Chicago, and this one in Toronto. I remember hearing about some other Trump skyscrapers elsewhere, but I can't remember.

There are 3 towers in one complex outside of Miami near Aventura on the ocean.

He has more than 6(completed) I know.

I know he has at least 4 in NY and 1 proposed, 1 in Chicago, this one in Toronto, 1 built in Las Vegas and 1 proposed, 1 being built in Dubai, 3 in Miami, 1 proposed in Philly,1 in Panama City, and 1 under construction or proposed in Tampa

Trump's everywhere!

He's a rather small player compared to the big boys, but he craves public attention. His high profile and visibility has more to do with his ego than the size of his holdings.

Lol a lot of towers for Donald, i wonder wich tower is the best of all.

^^ I think someone actually started a thread about that somewhere. It's hard to judge since many of them aren't finished yet, but the skinny black one in New York is one of my favourites.

update, work continues on the foundation...pics by current at UT...

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Update from current

October 28

Construction continues and they are now starting the next level. From Bay looking east.
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From Bay looking northeast towards Adelaide.
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Looking west towards Bay.
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Looking northwest towards Bay and Adelaide.
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Looking at the north wall facing Adelaide.
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Progress on this one is frustratingly slow.

this thread shouldn't be in this forum. but yes, slow for now but by summer it'll be glorious!

Why shouldn't it be in this forum? Another few months and it will even be above grade. It's not that far off at this point.

Great progress!!

Why shouldn't it be in this forum? Another few months and it will even be above grade. It's not that far off at this point.

it was in highrises, which is incorrect.

OK, that makes sense.

well progress, thx for posting skybean :)

I know he has at least 4 in NY and 1 proposed, 1 in Chicago, this one in Toronto, 1 built in Las Vegas and 1 proposed, 1 being built in Dubai, 3 in Miami, 1 proposed in Philly,1 in Panama City, and 1 under construction or proposed in Tampa

Donald Trump has proposed tower in Seattle but we haven't hear anything about it since he announced that he wanted to build his tower in downtown Seattle. We have no clue where it would get built and what his tower would look like. He said if everything goes well and it would be completed in 2009. Since he announced, we didn't hear anything from him again... That was around two years ago. :ohno:

OMG I HATE Donald Trump! But this tower is really cool:bash:

He is very crass with a shocking lack of manners and decorum. Not a very good upbringing, I suppose. He's not boring, I'll give him that.

from today's Daily Commercial News....

December 31, 2008

Crews near completion of Toronto Trump tower foundation

Talon International Development Inc. marked the first anniversary of construction of the $500 million Trump International Hotel and Tower with near completion of the foundation walls and elevator core walls.

“From the ground up, Trump Tower in Toronto is taking shape,” said Alex Shnaider, chair of Talon, the building’s developer. “We’re pushing forward into our second year of construction.”

Ground officially was broken in mid October 2007 on the landmark 60-storey tower.

“In only a few short months, we have gone from an excavated piece of land to a nearly complete foundation,” said Val Levitan, president and CEO of Talon. “Toronto’s Trump tower now has a solid support structure in which to grow upwards.”

The project team includes Zeidler Partnership Architects; structural engineers Halcrow Yolles; mechanical-electrical engineers Hidi Rae Consulting Engineers and construction manager Lewis Builds Corp.

Talon said construction crews have completed all the slab formwork for the B1 deck which is where the hotel service rooms will be located. Thousands of cubic metres of concrete have been poured.

Given the logistical challenges of getting the concrete onto the site, engineers created a gravity-hop system whereby the concrete is dropped from street level down into a pump, Talon said.

“With the ground floor complete in early January, construction crews will begin production of the parking floors,” said Marc Bohemier, senior project superintendent at Lewis Builds.

“At this time, we will also be installing the automatic climbing system so construction can begin on the core walls and to ensure efficient and swift floor development from floors three to 59.”

Located at 325 Bay Street, the Trump International Hotel & Tower will include 118 luxury residences and 261 hotel guest rooms and suites. Residential floors will be located on levels 33 to 60.

Excellent! Can someone please take pictures of this construction process? Thanks! :)

WOW. I LOVE IT.......................

Make that 62 stories bringing the roof height to roughly 880 ft:cheers: Minor variance but a shortened spire will undoubtedly be positive change.
However, no approval process will interfere with construction seeing that original approved plan was a super tall anyways.

Excellent! Can someone please take pictures of this construction process? Thanks! :)

This was from 2 weeks ago:
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^^ Looking great! Thanks! :cheers:

Some fantabulous updates from current at UT forums.
In an article posted on UT, Talon says they expect to complete a floor every 4 days. If you do the math and and add in a modest 50 days of delays this should be T/O in precisely a year's time:cheers:

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So boring we don't even get Trumped?
Donald, where's the garish? Where's the glitz? Oh please, not more green glass …
10 January 2009
The Globe and Mail

Donald Trump knows a thing or two about architecture as violence. The Trump Tower in New York cuts a massive saw-tooth profile of bronze glass over Fifth Avenue and hurls the name “TRUMP” at passersby from a garish front entrance that seems evil and bizarre, like a mouth stuffed with golden teeth.

More than 25 years after its glitzy opening, the tower still rules as the heart of darkness of the second gilded age. Enter the carnival inside – the atrium is a six-storey extravaganza of darkened mirrors and apricot marble – and you, too, will be seduced by the delirium of a colonized, born-again shopping mall. Yes, it's vulgar, but with Trump there's always the thrill of an invitation to a circus.

It's all smoke and mirrors, of course. The architecture of bombast and illusion was used, as it was at Trump's Taj Mahal Atlantic City – part of the Trump hotels and casino resorts dynasty that went belly up in 2005 – which was built as a replica of India's Taj Mahal, minus the site, religious and cultural context. A grand show of Western envy, I suppose, and so much fun, though the elderly folks staring dumbly at slot machines while dragging on their cigarettes look less than exhilarated by their reflections in the ceiling. Here's looking at ya, kid.

North of the border, despite numerous fits and starts, and despite having had 10 storeys lopped off, the $500-million Trump International Hotel & Tower at Bay and Adelaide in downtown Toronto is now, categorically, going ahead. (Although nobody would be called a fool for doubting the survivability in these times of a building that is part five-star hotel (256 suites), part condominium tower (118 units).

The building has seen no lack of controversy – its troubled past includes unpaid bills for marketing and design services, a backer who turned out to have skipped out on a fraud conviction in the United States and slow sales. But Zeidler Partnership Architects, the tower's design architects since 2001, are now approving shop drawings for the subcontractors on the exterior skin. Within the next month, construction will speed up once it's time to pour the concrete slabs above ground.

The Russian-born Canadian billionaire Alex Shnaider, who made his fortune primarily in Ukrainian steel, is the chair of Talon Developments, the building's developer along with key player, Talon CEO Val Levitan. Trump owns a minority share and will serve as the hotel operator. Trump's 26-year-old daughter Ivanka has been managing the project, according to Zeidler principal in charge Lyndon Devaney, with tons of smarts and design acumen. The opening isn't expected until the end of 2010, but already, given Trump's love of excess, there might be anticipation building for architecture delivering hot, carnal delights.

Unfortunately, although we were primed to expect something deliciously gaudy, buttoned down is what Toronto is going to get. Polished and sophisticated, to be sure, but hardly the fractured, disorienting spaces that sophisticates loved to hate and hated to love during the heyday of America's postmodern era.

Apparently, what's best for Toronto's elites are interiors about as wild as something you might find in Sleep Country Canada. Trump's spin doctors might like us to imagine “caviar and champagne,” but what I see are visions of white, black and grey, all beautifully harmonized and pleasantly appointed, with the operatic refrains of Margaret Atwood's The Handmaid's Tale gently freezing our brains in the background. Did the real-estate agents in Forest Hill dictate, once again, the neutral palate?

Thankfully, some of the gritty aesthetic of II BY IV Design Associates – the talented Toronto studio responsible for the tower's interiors and many of the city's more interesting clubs and restaurants, such as the Royal Ontario Museum's C5 – is released in the main hotel lobby where there are ebony granite floors and elevator doors in etched bronze. Good. Something dark and enticing to chew on during the long winter months.

The building itself nods politely to its neighbours – the Scotia Plaza to the east, and the Bay-Adelaide Centre to the north. Essentially, the Trump Tower is a concrete structure clad in aluminum and, to my horror, two tones of green-glass curtain wall. This city is already drowning in green glass and our eyes have been permanently damaged by it. (The curtain wall is provided by Far East Aluminum Co. of China, the company providing the curtain wall for the world's tallest tower, the Burj Dubai.) There's no room at the granite base for anything but a building pulled down hard to the edge of its site and a polite canopy on the second storey pretending to shield people from the snow. Inside, there's the lobby and martini bar but, sorry, no retail.

That's because the tight 15,000-square-foot site – a logistical challenge for construction – means that a large chunk of the ground floor must be given over to loading and services. Where's the fun in that ?

There is one concession to Trump's maverick style and his penchant for bad hair (the infamous comb-over) and building bad, historic pastiche. The saving grace for his tower in Toronto has to do with the head of a python. Years ago, architect Eberhard Zeidler placed it on the top of his BNI City Tower in Jakarta, as, perhaps, a symbol of puffed-out, chest-beating testosterone. That flourish of memories from exotic, warmer climes has been carefully subdued for the Toronto market so that it now communicates less as a python and more as a peacock feather or, since this is Ontario, as a long, skinny garter snake.

It climbs the full height of the 280-metre Bay Street corner of the Trump Tower and then peeks its head out at the top of the city. It's the only curved item on the otherwise orthogonal massing of the tower. Set apart from the straight angles of the rest of the building, it's a curiosity plucked from another place and told to behave in a foreign city. The curved glass “snake” will be lit by the team of Scottish lighting designer Jonathan Speirs – his company lit the Madrid airport designed by British architect Richard Rogers – and Toronto artist Michael Snow. Against all odds, given the good manners of the rest of the tower and the fact that Toronto is apparently too boring to be Trumped, it could become the curiosity that compels us to visit.

I like this tower a lot, actually. Shame about the height decreases though. :lol:

one of the best trump towers i think.

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Here are some pictures from Feb 09
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Construction site pics looks great :) thanks a lot :okay:
There is a site to see the renderings of the tower?

I really can't say I like the design of this building. But it's great for the city.

Nice update from current

February 26

From Adelaide looking southwest there is a lot of progress.
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Looking west towards Bay Street.
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Corner of Bay and Adelaide.
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From Bay looking east.
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Receiving ramp.
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Trump Toronto starting to take shape above-ground....pic by cruzin4u at urbantoronto.ca....

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guys how would you like if the cladding looks like this?

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Trump Toronto continues to rise.....these pics were taken March 26 and were posted by current here on the local Toronto forum...since then, they have already started work on the 3rd floor..

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Very nice design, great addition to a great city´s skyline !

it's a pretty small working site for such a massive tower.

can anyone get some updated pics :)

slow but steady progress with Trump Toronto....these pics were taken May 2, posted by drum118 at urbantoronto.ca....

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great shots
can't wait until this giant tops out :banana:

Posted in the Toronto forum!

Just an FYI... just uploaded our latest construction update video to YouTube!

Cheers!

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Posted on urbantoronto.ca :

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I am so glad that this is finally under construction!

anyone heard any news on One Bloor East?

^^ It's not looking good.

r u serious? i thought it was approved?

does anyone have a timeline on when this will top out?

i was done there today and they have almost completed the fourth level

is it on the 5th level yet?

can someone who lives close by snap some quick shots, as they would be appreciated :)

I would highly appreciate some news as well. Thanks guys!!!!!

^^ You may want to check out urbantoronto.ca forum, many Toronto residents are following this building closely.

And to answer your question AmericanSkyscraper22, it's nearly up to the 6th floor. Progressing nicely. :cheers:

http://www.urbantoronto.ca/showthread.php?t=475

^^thanks

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In case it hasn't been posted, this is the latest render of trump tower
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i like the design on this build except for the base. i would have preferred the stone facing just been glass like the upper floors. but i think it will compliment the T.O. skyline well. possible decrease in size is a let down if it happpens. i thought the height proposed would look good. shrinking it would lose it in the skyline there already. but we'll see what happens.

Think this one will be 'lost' in the skyline. It's too bunched up with the existing towers, and is not tall enough to stand out amidst the cluster. Even Bay-Adelaide is hard to see from the waterfront perspective.

What a nice design, i think it has something different from the rest...

Think this one will be 'lost' in the skyline. It's too bunched up with the existing towers, and is not tall enough to stand out amidst the cluster. Even Bay-Adelaide is hard to see from the waterfront perspective.

I think the same.... you won't notice too much from the lake but from the skyline looking south, it's gonna look very nice.

pic by caltrane74 at urbantoronto.ca.....I believe they are working on the 7th floor now, which is the last above-grade parking level....hotel lobby is next...

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can someone who lives close by snap some quick shots, as they would be appreciated :)

From today!

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Nice looking building, from one rendering looks a bit Chrysler building ish...

thanks i made a post here...



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