Address is probably wrong. Maybe it should be 42-46 Batman Hill Drive? Either that or they've gotten their orientation wrong.

How many of these prime sites in Docklands are still up for grabs? I take it that the area of the CBD between Spencer and Elizabeth won't be the financial section for much longer!!

Should be seeing something soon one would think:

http://img457.imageshack.us/img457/8069/villagedocklandskc6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Yesterday's Domain had an ad for the final release of apartments in V1. Considering nothing much has happened (apart from a street) in the 2 years since it was built must be preparing for the next stage by trying to offload the last lot of apartments.

I knew something had to give. Check this (http://www.melbourne.vic.gov.au/opm/bc/CTEE/meetings/DMPC_54_200708070430.pdf) out.

New masterplan now predominantly commercial:

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/2903/villagedocklandsplanvw1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Hm, i wonder how successful the goods sheds will be, the shops look pretty small.

Archi, you're a genious

Hm, i wonder how successful the goods sheds will be, the shops look pretty small.

Yes, but remember how freaking large the shed is. The retail stores shouldn't have any issues, I reckon.

This is actually bad news in a way as the tallest tower is now 148m (Block 4D), with Block 4A being 69m, 4C 57m, and 4B 28m.

Elevations:

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/8318/vdsectionot6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/8041/vdsection2lx2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/1503/vdsection3jk2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/3073/vdsection4tk6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Damn It! Is that the last of the "supertall sites"?

No, The tallest building here was supposed to be the 180m (to roof) Shangri La. The SAMA sites are on the other side of the Goods Shed.

Sigh. I was very worried for a second there. Oh well, 32m isnt too far off. Just be thankful its not another campus or Neo200

That's another 100,000sqm of space to add to Melbourne's total.

I would rather have these then more campus style development.

^^ really? well i never! :lol:

Sigh. I was very worried for a second there. Oh well, 32m isnt too far off. Just be thankful its not another campus or Neo200

id be more thankful if some spaz took more than 10 minutes to design this complex - boxtacular! only elevations archi, any renders?

This is only an outline development plan that was prepared for the Westpac bid which is now looks like they have lost, not detailed designs.

The plan may well change again in the future depending on demand.

Westpac was only block 4A though. I thought they'd at least build one more residential tower.

4E is still residential.

They have submitted a new masterplan because all four of the office buildings will now be built on a large single storey pdium with a retail plaza in between the towers above the podium.

So the first stage will be the development of 4A and the entire podium which is why they had to change the plans.

The heights and uses of 4B-D may still change subject to market conditions. This latest plan includes an extordinary amount of office space (180,000 square metres?).

In the current market with so many other competing proposals I couldn't see them finishing all four towers for a very long time so they may go back to residentail in five years time.

Directly from the PDF:

The applicant has now prepared a revised ODP which seeks to alter the predominant use to
commercial and proposes the development of three office buildings with a Collins Street
address, a building to provide affordable housing and childcare uses and the redevelopment
of the Goods Shed No.2.

Going by the elevations and lift cores shown on the plans I would be guessing sites A, C and D and supposed to be the three office buildings with the remainder as resi or hotel or something. Even though C and D don't front Collins St I'm sure they could probably still get a Collins St address for them by the nature of the podium. On the other hand B looks a bit strange and looks like it could join with D.

Grollo I think the 180,000 figure might have been for total floorspace not just office space specifically IIRC.

This is actually bad news in a way as the tallest tower is now 148m (Block 4D), with Block 4A being 69m, 4C 57m, and 4B 28m.

Elevations:

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/8318/vdsectionot6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/8041/vdsection2lx2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/1503/vdsection3jk2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/3073/vdsection4tk6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


It actually refers to Westpac Tower 4A ??????

Grollo I think the 180,000 figure might have been for total floorspace not just office space specifically IIRC.

The Walker Corp website has the NLA @ 135,000sqm.

Yes it does :) I think that figure is the floorspace in general though whether it be residential, office, retail or something else.

http://web.aanet.com.au/nmharrison/village%20docklands.jpg

Heights above ground level are (some of the plans quoting lower heights do not include the plant levels at the top of the towers):

4A: 17 levels, 77.7m
4B: 8 levels, 35.9m
4c: 14-18 levels, 65.3-77.3m
4D: 38 levels, 155.9m
4E: 10-19 levels, 34.8 - 62.8m
4F: (V1 - completed) 20 levels, 70m

I like it! It suits the area well and gives the block some diversity that one single building doesn't (ie. AXA). Also, there is some height despite it not being 60 stories. Considering what will be surrounding it it will look quite tall. Besides, SAMA could go very tall and this will compliment that nicely.
Also, by looking at that plan it appears that the "Lantern" extends to cover the top of the stairs than lead down to the goods shed. That's a good idea IMO....

not a bad result. atleast you get a 500f00ter out of it. when is this likely to start? or which bldg is first to start?
grollo- are you adding these to emporis or too early yet?

the 4D tower has similar floor plate to KENS. 2 staggered floor plates with centre core. failry wide to at 75m.

http://web.aanet.com.au/nmharrison/village%20docklands.jpg

heres a model i did a few years ago for Mirvac.shows 180m tower.we had to make it in a day before it headed off by plane to Singapore.

http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/5117/planviewpe7.jpg

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/6946/collinsstextviewrr8.jpg

hey Cul do you still sell those model buildings you make?

Also, by looking at that plan it appears that the "Lantern" extends to cover the top of the stairs than lead down to the goods shed. That's a good idea IMO....

Agree. I can't believe they described those stairs as being modelled on the Spanish Steps. They're just stairs. :lol: I'm just glad the taller tower actually reaches 150m.

Going slightly off topic but when all the SAMA/John Tabert hoo-ha began there was an article suggesting that SAMA/John Tabert was looking to build a 60 storey Shangri La, which we all pretty much dismissed as misinformation as it was supposed to be going up in Village Docklands. We know SAMA are after two sites, Site 6 and Site 5B. I think the rumoured 85 storey tower would go on Site 6 and maybe the 60 storey Shangri La might go on 5b not far from where it was originally mooted. Thoughts?

Disbelief as ex-Docklands chief turns developer
Royce Millar
October 5, 2006

MELBOURNE'S property world was picking up its collective jaw yesterday with the news that former Docklands boss John Tabart was the frontrunner to develop two of the remaining few parcels of land at the $10 billion waterfront precinct.

Last night Major Projects Minister John Lenders dispensed with the usual commercial confidentiality restraints to confirm to The Age that Government development agency VicUrban and Mr Tabart's company Sama Dubai were in "initial discussions" about a "development proposal" believed to include a major new hotel.

Well-placed Government sources yesterday went further to confirm that VicUrban had an understanding with Mr Tabart on at least one site but possibly two (sites 5B and 6) at Batmans Hill at Docklands. No formal option or development agreement had yet been signed. The State Opposition called on Mr Lenders to immediately disallow any deal with Mr Tabart's company. "This is outrageous and highly suspect," said major projects spokeswoman Louise Asher. She said Mr Tabart "knows every internal machination of VicUrban. This looks highly suspect and the minister should rule it out."

An angry contender for the sites, who did not want to be named, said VicUrban was dealing exclusively with one party, believed to be Mr Tabart.

Others interested in the sites were furious about Mr Tabart's return to Docklands as a developer. Only a handful of small sites are unspoken for at the 200-hectare Docklands, and all are much sought-after.

But Mr Lenders would not rule out a deal with Mr Tabart's Dubai-based company. "Strict probity processes will apply to oversight negotiations," he said.

Mr Tabart is believed to be proposing a 60-level commercial complex including an upmarket hotel, likely to be operated by the Asian-based Shangri-La group.

Several property and Government sources said they believed Mr Tabart had met Premier Steve Bracks to discuss his proposed development — which his office would not confirm or deny.

Mr Tabart resigned from VicUrban (formerly Docklands Authority) last year after a decade at the helm. Last night from Dubai he refused to comment.

Source: The Age (http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/exdocklands-chief-turns-developer/2006/10/04/1159641394757.html)

Going slightly off topic but when all the SAMA/John Tabert hoo-ha began there was an article suggesting that SAMA/John Tabert was looking to build a 60 storey Shangri La, which we all pretty much dismissed as misinformation as it was supposed to be going up in Village Docklands. We know SAMA are after two sites, Site 6 and Site 5B. I think the rumoured 85 storey tower would go on Site 6 and maybe the 60 storey Shangri La might go on 5b not far from where it was originally mooted. Thoughts?

I assume the 85 storey would be mixed-use?

From what I've heard from people in the hotel industry, Shangri-La is still going ahead. Melbourne needs it!! Site 5B doesn't look so big so it would be good if it were built there and we had the original larger site still available for something else.

So there is two towers supposedly? An 85 floor and a 60 floor? I thought it was just one.

There could be several towers I suppose. Sites 5b and 6 are too big for just one.

i would counter by suggesting the site closer to the yarra (i think 6B) will be a 40L Jumeriah Hotel. they may well try to lodge a scheme that overshadows tasmania though, a bit of cash gets you a long way

I'm sure a Shangri-La is not far away. The company already has an office on Collins St, level 25 of 367 to be exact.

Remember that this is proposed on the other side of the goods shed (although it looks like it won't be leased by Westpac):
http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/4200/f220061002image2of7equimk0.jpg

http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/9296/f220061002image1of7equihy6.jpg

Has it officially been awarded to Equiset? I thought Equiset would only get the site if they got Westpac or another tenant on board.

That must go ahead, even without a tenant :p

Though, it's be great if westpac decided to set up shop there.

That must go ahead, even without a tenant :p

Though, it's be great if westpac decided to set up shop there.

Ah, lads, you might want to read the from page of todays Age..............

So what I've got from all of this so far is there is going to be an 85L mixed use tower containing a Westpac branch, a 40L Jumbuck hotel, a 60L Shangri-La, 3 new office towers up to 155m, a wavy Tower to be built speculatively, and Tasmania will be in permanent shade. Did I miss something? Oh, and what is 'Cosmopolitan'? A cocktail?

hahahahahaha god I love this game....

So what I've got from all of this so far is there is going to be an 85L mixed use tower containing a Westpac branch, a 40L Jumbuck hotel, a 60L Shangri-La, 3 new office towers up to 155m, a wavy Tower to be built speculatively, and Tasmania will be in permanent shade. Did I miss something? Oh, and what is 'Cosmopolitan'? A cocktail?

cosmopolitan is 368 lt collins - hoping it becomes reality. anyway trying not to deviate off the thread
http://silvermb.thehoddlegrid.net/368 lt collins.jpg

cosmopolitan is now a fat 141m office tower. bugger

cosmopolitan is now a fat 141m office tower. bugger

No...that is another option...

word is thats what will be built. you didnt hear it from me. ;-)

word is thats what will be built. you didnt hear it from me. ;-)

Every recent project proposed has turned out to be a lot shorter than expected!:ohno:

Oh no it's the end of the world, the sky is falling, and such and such.

Have they sold this thing yet?

Oh no it's the end of the world, the sky is falling, and such and such.

No it's not, we're just building taller and taller, it seems as if it's falling, but it really isn't. :nuts:

word is thats what will be built. you didnt hear it from me. ;-)

But you SO loved telling us didn't you?

As i understand the current owners are selling the site, so I find it strange that the new owners have decided what they will build before they have decided to buy the site and before a permit has been issued for the new plan.

Just as I thought, the new masterplan is the work of none other than Bates Smart, which pretty much explains the building envelope for Tower 4B. :colgate:

Construction's supposed to begin next month. Can't remember where I read/heard it.

^ Construction of which part exactly do you know?

Podium, tower 4A and shed, I think it was. Not 100% sure though.

Anybody know if construction is still set to start this month?

The website is under re-construction which means we should get some sort of an update soon. Might also mean the second resi tower isn't too far away, either that or it'll be advertising the three commercial towers.

http://www.villagedocklands.com.au/

There's an article in the AFR today about Walker planning an icon for docklands. Did anyone read it? i tried to get it from the net but i only could get one line :( ...i assume it would be to do with village docklands as i recall them being involved in the site..thanks :) Hopefully its planning something special :D

Business News
Walker plans Docklands icon
Robert Harley
15 December 2007
Australian Financial Review (Abstracts)

Real estate magnate Lang Walker will next week launch work on a $850 million redevelopment of the block at 735 Collins Street, Melbourne. The joint venture with Malaysia's Kuok Group is 'one of the most significant commercial developments currently underway in Australia,' said Mr Walker, who is aiming for Six-Star Green Star rating for the four-tower complex. The chairman of architects Bates Smart, Roger Poole, said: 'This is the development that will complete Melbourne's Collins Street.' Mr Walker has appointed former Lend Lease senior development manager Brad Vercoe to head the project, and established a new headquarters in Victoria. The property tycoon has one of Australia's biggest private land banks, and is involved in project developments in Malaysia and Canada.
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Article is slightly misleading, there will be three commercial towers, once campus, and one residential tower, plus the existing V1.

Is this something we have heard about? Do they mean they are starting construction next week?

If this is what I think it is, it doesn't seem like a real icon to me!

The tallest is 148m yeah?

Yes.

What else would work mean?

I don't know what you think it is but what we've seen are just building envelopes. Just wait and see ffs.

Tallest is 155m.

They are commencing construction of the huge poduim for all four commerical towers and towers 4A and 4B and the lantern building leading down to the southern half of Good Shed no. 2.

4E will be residential

http://web.aanet.com.au/nmharrison/village%20docklands.jpg

Heights above ground level are (some of the plans quoting lower heights do not include the plant levels at the top of the towers):

4A: 17 levels, 77.7m
4B: 8 levels, 35.9m
4c: 14-18 levels, 65.3-77.3m
4D: 38 levels, 155.9m
4E: 10-19 levels, 34.8 - 62.8m
4F: (V1 - completed) 20 levels, 70m

Is the 155m office or resi?

Is the 155m office or resi?
commercial mate

cheers

lozza

SOUTH ELEVATION

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/77/80159201hv7.jpg


NORTH ELEVATION

http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/9240/123mk2.jpg


WEST ELEVATION

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/8583/62912891go9.jpg


EAST ELEVATION

http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/824/95817817nu7.jpg



and just on that pic above, what exactly is the lantern building if anyone knows?

Glass and steel structure kind of like the one that will be built on the Northern Shed:

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/228/733bourkestcm0.jpg

ohh i get it now :) thanx archi

So are they the final designs for the buildings or just envelopes?

Yes.

What else would work mean?

I don't know what you think it is but what we've seen are just building envelopes. Just wait and see ffs.

Tallest is 155m.

Half a page up.

^^ i think he was refferring to the images i posted. Yes as far as i know they are only envelopes atm

yes i was, thankyou very much. :D

Walker Corporation Commences Work This Week at 735 Collins Street
17th December, 2007

The Most Prestigious New Corporate Address In Melbourne

* Work will commence next week on one of Australia’s most significant new commercial projects – 735 Collins Street
* 160 metres of blue-ribbon Collins Street frontage • Early works to commence on site establishment, demolition, excavation and piling
* New Project Team in place, including appointment of new Project Director
* Outline Development Plan approval received for this significant Collins Street address
* Largest 6 Star Green Star Commercial Development in Melbourne
* This new commercial and retail precinct will complete Collins Street, and link Melbourne’s CBD with Docklands

The Collins Street extension to Docklands is to be completed with Walker Corporation announcing that it will commence work on its showpiece project at 735 Collins Street this week. This development is the last undeveloped whole city block of land on Collins Street, presenting a significant commercial opportunity that is unlikely to ever be repeated.

Master plan approval for development of one of Australia’s largest and most significant commercial precincts with an end-value of $850 million has just been granted to the Walker-Kuok Group Joint Venture to develop 200,000sqm (gross) on Collins Street.

The $850million development will span an entire city block, with frontages to Collins Street and Batmans Hill Drive. Comparable to the Collins Place development in scale, 735 Collins Street will comprise four commercial towers set over an extensive retail domain of 8,700 square metres including an innovative retail concept for revitalising the adjacent historic Goods Shed. The first of the commercial towers will be completed in late 2009.

The project will be anchored by an innovative “Laneway-esque” podium featuring an expansive transparent light-weight roof offering patrons year-round weather protection. The concept design will focus on an enlivened and activated space reminiscent of Melbourne’s much-loved laneways with a 21st Century twist.

The Walker Corporation has moved quickly to get the development underway since achieving planning approval. Last week Walker established its Victorian headquarters and project team for the development on site.

Walker has appointed the contractor to undertake the early works package including demolition, piling and site establishment, with works commencing before the end of the year. The main contractor will be announced early in the New Year.

Leading Australian architects Bates Smart have been appointed for the master plan, commercial and retail design. Roger Poole, Executive Chairman of Bates Smart said “This is the development that will complete Melbourne’s Collins Street. It presents a unique opportunity for businesses to join other prestigious Corporates in the Docklands precinct whilst also boasting the best commercial address in Australia – Collins Street.”

The development’s commitment to a 6-Star Green Star rating will enable tenants to put their environmental credentials and commitment into action through the building of a headquarters that is innovative, creative, technologically cutting-edge, environmentally sustainable and financially responsible. The development will feature a precinct-wide central co-generation plant, and water capture and re-use program.

735 Collins Street provides unsurpassed ease of access to public transport. It is two minutes walk from Southern Cross Station, has tram services at its front door, and offers exceptional vehicular access from both the Melbourne CBD and the greater metropolitan area.

To oversee the development, Walker has appointed Brad Vercoe as the Project Director. Mr Vercoe joins Walker Corporation from Lend Lease where he was the Senior Development Manager of the $3.5 billion Victoria Harbour precinct development at the Docklands. Prior to Lend Lease, Mr Vercoe had extensive experience working internationally on major commercial and retail projects in Dubai and Asia.

Lang Walker, Executive Chairman of Walker Corporation said today “I’m very excited about this new approval which we’ve been quietly working on over the past 18 months. We feel that in developing this new master plan, we’ve brought the very best place-making skills to the table to deliver a commercial and retail precinct that will rival international benchmarks.

“This development is one of the most significant commercial developments currently underway in Australia. It will bring together a mixture of innovative architecture, iconic Melbourne elements and leading environmental design to create a thriving new precinct for Melbourne.” Mr Walker said.

Project Director Brad Vercoe said of the 6-Star Green Star commitment “This is a unique opportunity. While many individual buildings are driving sustainability programs, this development adopts a holistic approach. The end result will be an environmentally responsible development which will deliver bottom-line savings for our tenants - setting new standards in the industry.”

Walker Corporation’s investment in this $850million project in Melbourne further consolidates its significant investment in Victorian property which includes the Point Cook City Centre project, the Main Street Kew project and the South Morang Bulky Goods Development. This Victorian program of development adds to Walker’s extensive national and international development strategy.

http://www.walkercorp.com.au/news/article.asp?articleid=22&zoneid=1

Dat is gud ya!! :D

Excellent to see some 6 star development in Docklands.

Amazing news!
:D

There's an article about this in today's HUN with a render. The buildings look ok, nothing special just a few boxes from what i could see, but the facade of one of the shorter towers looked as if it had different shades of colours? However it says that the buildings are between 60-100m? WTF

Le HUN, enough said ;)

Anyone up near DSE this week?

there was also a render in last weekend's financial review

Website is under construction... is this old news?

I posted that on the previous page for fuck's sake. The article is wrong the tallest tower is no where near only 30storeys/100m tall (it would've been 120m anyway), it's 38 storeys/155m. Even the render shows this.

http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/1369/villagedocklandsiu5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

The car park is now closed (as of today) and there's an excavator and site offices on site.

sorry archi,
i think it looks good... better than a campus anyway! and if its 6 stars, then im all for it!

so to ask a possibly dumb question, is the place where this develeopment is happening where shangri-la, was going to be or was that somewhere else in the village docklands zone?

The taller tower (Tower C) which you can sort of see in the background replaces the Shangri-La proposal, Tower A is almost the same height and bulk as the building in the original masterplan.

This is 200,000 sqm. What are the chances of Telstra signing up?

Village Docklands isn't part of the Telstra tendering process so chances are zero. The four sites are: Victoria Harbour, the Prima site, the powerstation, Carlton Brewery. No other sites are involved, it was in the article (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=16639930&postcount=1).

Am I reading the same article as Qantas?

It says "the net amount of office space at the project would be about 164,000sqm."

edit: there's his answer twice now

Thanks for all the info and updates arch......much appreciated

Another render (Note: the second residential tower is missing):

http://onboardcms.docklands.com/uploads/images/Villiage%20Docklands%20-%20Walker%20Group%20Aerial%20Night%20small%2021.jpg

Should be a nice build up in height as you approach the CBD once this and the Sama towers go up.

Looks better than expected. Thanks Archi. ^^

Well I'm sure it won't look that high on the skyline.

Site photo:

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/344/pic0008vc1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Another render (Note: the second residential tower is missing):

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/4688/204docklandsps8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)



That looks AMAZING!
Where do you find these? Imagining that next to sama in 7 years gives me goose-bumps!

^^ You sure that's 155m? Doesn't look like it, although that maybe just the way I view it.

Bascially, I'm just trying to compare this in terms of height with Verve 501.

How does it not look 155m when Tower A is 77m, and Tower C in the background is clearly double that height? And why would you compare it with Verve which is thin as compared to this beast.

Why? Because I can.

http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/2440/vdrenderke0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/6756/vdrenderiitt6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

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http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/7110/vdrendervoh8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

omg- thankyou soo much archi!
splendid work! this is perfect for docklands!

great work archi, trying to put my finger on it and its come to me. the 155m tower has design elements of sydneys westpac.
2 large rectangular floor plates with central spine.
one floor plate higher then the other.
all thats missing is the 30m weather beacon.
the docklands tower

kens>
http://www.gjames.com.au/product/cw/img/kens1.jpg

LOL @ KENS

or PwC:

http://www.skyscraperpicture.com/melbourne54.JPG

Am I the only one who thinks this --- but I'm fed up in this growing trend in tower design (especially) Melbourne, that involves in having the exposed concrete core off to the side. It looks rank and is frankly ruining some great buildings.

-BHP Billiton @ QV
-Urban Workshop
-PwC
-now Village Docklands?

^^ I agree. It looks cheap. Although it is supposedly all the rage at the moment, it will never, ever match the beauty of fully clad developments.

Out of that list BHP is the only one that is entirely exposed concrete. UW is a mix of masonry and glass, PwC is clad in alpolic and Tower D @ Village Docklands will be a combination of glass and alpolic.

Regardless - it still looks incomplete -- like the floorplates were never fully constructed to meet with the upper core. BHP looks depressingly incomplete.

They probably thought that they can leave the concrete side of BHP exposed as there will be apartments built in front of it and no one would notice....well almost no one!

The best off-centre core building is the Hearst Tower in NYC.

Take heart that the exposed concrete core is temporary and will be covered by a masterpiece by Zaha Hadid.

I can't see how you use the Hearst Tower in NY as an example of offset core????It has the same glass facade on 4 sides.....Haven't seen floor plans, maybe one facade is concrete with glass faced treatment which then would make your statement very true!http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/9867/dsc08968ux7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
By redbaron_012 (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/redbaron_012)

The core of Hearst tower is on the far side of all the photos and its right up against a building next door. I saw a documentary on its construction. The diagrid is able to bear the load away from the core while using less steel. The core side still has glass for aesthetics.

In that case I totally agree with you.....Although I didn't walk around to the far side of the building I could see it from the Circle Cruise from the Hudson River...showing this same facade.See what I mean.....? http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/8902/dsc09718vm5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
By redbaron_012 (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/redbaron_012)

Diggers were stomping around on site today. They pulled down the big corrugated iron shed next to the goods shed over the morning and afternoon.

Finally. I went by yesterday about midday and the two diggers were just sitting there.

Diggers were stomping around on site today. They pulled down the big corrugated iron shed next to the goods shed over the morning and afternoon.


Good to see they have finally got rid of that eyesore and work starting in that area.

^^ It's now a scrap heap on the ground. It's great to see them getting started, lots of action to view all around here in Batmans Hill at the moment.

Can someone clear up what project this is for me? I think I've missed something somewhere. Lot's of action on this site and a large hole is starting to appear on the black site below:

Red=BOM
Pink=AXA
Green=National Foods
Black=?

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/9841/efcollinsstreetjpghf1.png

Site 3b/717 Bourke Street/ESMOD & Travelodge:

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/1680/esmodro7.jpg

I think this is the one. :)

True. It has a mini bridge over Wurundjeri Way connecting it to the Bourke Street Bridge.

Duh.. Thanks guys. Remember that one now. Wasn't much chat going on about it. Well work is well underway on that site as well. I'll have some good views to get some photos of that site and the Village Docklands site. I'll get some shortly.

that design is pretty cool, also "reminiscent" of the SANAA New York Museum.

(Which is hottest of hottt.)

From the Batman's Hill thread:

More than one source, Commonwealth Bank is negotiating with Kwok to do a deal !!
:banana::banana:

OK...who ordered the 7 Pizza's ?????

True. It has a mini bridge over Wurundjeri Way connecting it to the Bourke Street Bridge.
Excellent

Village Docklands getting underway:

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http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/2561/smimgp0876ke3.jpg

Can someone clear up what project this is for me? I think I've missed something somewhere. Lot's of action on this site and a large hole is starting to appear on the black site below:

Red=BOM
Pink=AXA
Green=National Foods
Black=?

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/9841/efcollinsstreetjpghf1.png


I think the black is the travelodge?!?!?!

Yeah...`dlskt and Archi cleared that up earlier :)

Thanks for all the updates Shumway.

Today:

http://ozfrog.thehoddlegrid.net/construction/VillageDocklands20080119.jpg

If the CBA were to strike a deal with Kwouke they would most likely take space in the 155m tower right?? Does anybody know how much space the CBA are after - i think it was 30,000sqm last time i checked, and how much space is in the tower?

I think they would occupy all of Tower A, which has about 30,000sqm.

How tall is their current building in Elizabath St?

Not that it means anything, but it's 169m.

Tower A was designed for the Westpac tender so it should meet the requirments of CBA nicely.

^^do you reckon there's any chance that they'll keep that awesum wavy design? or is that dead and buried?

That was Equiset's bid for Site 5B. So unless Sama don't get the site for whatever reason, it's pretty much dead.

oh so that tower was for a diff site? that makes more sense then lol thanx for clearing tha one up.

No, 4A was designed for Westpac as Walker/Kuok also put in a bid for Westpac.

If you look closely at the plans reffered to the City of Melbourne it has Westpac written on the floor plans for tower 4A.

I know, but melbournee12 was talking about the black wavy design.

:yes:

soz for the confusion grollo

Are these the finalised renders for this site??

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=17407606&postcount=344

The facades and podiums will be different but the forms are as per the approved masterplan.

YAY!

Fin Review says that CBA will be signing up for the big tower 4A(155m??) at Village Docklands. They are committing to about 30,000sqm. A good start for Walker/Kuok partnership. The entire 4 tower complex and massive podium is valued at arond $850 million. The article states that a major hotel is still on the cards for the site.

Cool... An actual skyscraper for a bank.... Whatever next?!

Tower 4A's the 77m (the one originally designed for Westpac), Tower 4D's the 155m tower.

http://web.aanet.com.au/nmharrison/village%20docklands.jpg

Cool... An actual skyscraper for a bank.... Whatever next?!

ROFL! I know, how weird! It's like going back in time!

30,000 sqm into 4A must be just about the whole building?

Spoke to someone at Walker and they can't confirm anything about CBA, so obviously no clarification on which tower they were interested in. So it's business as usual in regards to what stages the tower will be built in. Having said that, if CBA does commit it'd be go to see that translate into the whole thing going ahead, rather than just the podium a la Cos on Bourke.

The Fin said nothing of a lease extension meaning their new home needs to be ready by March next year. I think it would be the shorter tower 4A if this is the case.

Success for Docklands speculators
06 Feb 2008 | By Mathew Dunckley
Docklands' first speculative office project is on the verge of landing a tenant to lease the entire development, market insiders say.


Thats all i could get..i assume it wud be talking about Village Docklands?

I'm thinking it might be the Gauge which was suppose to be doing a deal with Fujitsu.

yeah maybe ur right..that wud make more sense
the guage didnt cross my mind

The Gauge would be shared by Lend Lease and Fujitsu, so I think it can be ruled out. The only other buildings I can think of are 370 Docklands Drive and Tower A.

EDIT: 370 DD it is.

Property
Success for Docklands speculators
Mathew Dunckley
6 February 2008
Australian Financial Review (Abstracts)

Market sources say that Docklands ’ first speculative office project, a building at 370 Docklands Drive jointly developed by Austcorp Group and YarraCity, is close to landing a tenant to lease the entire development, with the Carrick Institute of Education believed to head a shortlist of potential tenants. To this point Docklands has been dominated by pre-committed projects. Carrick would be the second education business to take up residence at Docklands, after a Babcock & Brown-led consortium secured a site known as 3B. The Austcorp building was designed by Cox architects to gain a 5-star rating from the Australian Green Building Council.

Number of Mentions in original article: Babcock & Brown, Green Building Council, Carrick Institute, Cox architects, YarraCity, Austcorp

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/4060/pic0017gm6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/8421/villagedocklandsoh1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Thanks for all the updates archi!
Great work!

http://web.aanet.com.au/nmharrison/village%20docklands.jpg

gday

i know they have started work on this site, but what i want to know is are they going to build all the 5 buildings in one hit, or are they going to build them one at a time over time?

cheers

Lozza

I think they're building just the podiums and 4A first

You should know lozza, you are 3 minutes away!


Indeed, podium first and the rest later on.

well, looks to me that they are doing work on thw whole block, especially the north east corner

cheers

lozza

All of the towers will be built on a common podium/plaza that will cover the entire block.

All of this was discussed a few pages back...

All of this was discussed a few pages back...

really? i spent 1 whole hour sifting and sifting through all of the relevent information and i couldnt find it ! :(

so, after all that, they are building the common podium all in one hit, , and then building the other buildings one at a time?

cheers

lozza

27/02:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3080/2295790534_15423262f7_o.jpg

Village Docklands really reminds me of Tour Total in La Défense (Paris CBD)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e5/TOTAL_Coupole_Fev_2006.JPG/450px-TOTAL_Coupole_Fev_2006.JPG


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Walker in pursuit of Docklands
Print Maurice Dunlevy | March 13, 2008

VETERAN deal maker Lang Walker may have persuaded US insurance and financial services giant the American International Group to move to Melbourne's Docklands.

AIG, which owns its St Kilda Road office block and leases spaces in an adjoining GE Capital-owned building that houses the US Consulate, is being widely tipped to move to the Batman's Hill Docklands precinct, controlled by Walker Corporation and the Malaysian Kuok Group.

With the Commonwealth Bank's 30,000sqm Melbourne space requirement firmly in Lang Walker's sights, the property billionaire is set for another Docklands leasing deal through AIG, which recently posted a $US5.3 billion ($5.7 billion) fourth-quarter loss after an $US11.1 billion write-down.

Babcock & Brown also is attempting to lure AIG to the Docklands for its French fashion university building at 717 Bourke Street.

French fashion university ESMOD will anchor the $300 million Babcock & Brown-backed project, taking about 50 per cent of a 36,000sqm office tower to be part of a hotel and retail development.

AIG is understood to be looking for a total of 9000sqm in two 4500sqm tranches, one for its commercial and general business and the other for its life division.

Analysts expect AIG to sell its seven-storey 549 St Kilda Road building, which is more than 20 years old.

AIG, which could not be contacted for comment yesterday, has owned the 9300sqm building since it was built by the late Floyd Podgornick's Podgor Corp on the site of the former Koowarra mansion.

The insurer's move from St Kilda Road will also affect the adjoining 553 St Kilda Road tower, where AIG is a tenant.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,23364442-25658,00.html

:banana:

All good news for Walker Kuok at the moment, which is good as they seemed to have had an unfortunate run of bad luck in trying to attract anyone to their developments in Village Docklands from what I remember in previous new articles.

All good news for Walker Kuok at the moment, which is good as they seemed to have had an unfortunate run of bad luck in trying to attract anyone to their developments in Village Docklands from what I remember in previous new articles.

gday

i always notice on real estate.com that there are a heap of apartments in village docklands for sale, and they are always at a cheaper price than all the other apartments for sale in docklands. After having a look inside the village docklands apartment building, i now know why. the finishings are really cheap and tacky compared to the other docklands apartments, so buyer beware in this particular building. ( you pay for what you get )

i suppose what i am getting at is that maybe this is why the quok group pulled out in the first place from village docklands - they couldnt sell enough apartments in their residential building in the first place, and they were completed really cheaply and tacky , hence , maybe they thought it wasnt viable to complete the whole precinct!

cheers

lozza

Today:

http://ozfrog.thehoddlegrid.net/construction/VillageDocklands20080314.jpg

Kuok are still involved however, even if they have taken somewhat of a backseat to Walker.

Village Docklands 02.04.08

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You can really see everything from AXA :lol: Thanks for the updates Shumway! :okay:

Transferred from Batman's Hill thread:

Sounds like the Village Docklands project might be in trouble...........

Big Docklands client sinks (from The Australian)

LANG Walker's $850 million Melbourne Docklands plans have received a major setback, with the Commonwealth Bank deciding to stay at its existing CBD office tower.

The Commonwealth Bank has signed for a further five years at Commonwealth Property Office Fund's 385 Bourke Street, in a $28.5 million deal that has effectively scuttled any move to the Docklands.

Mr Walker had high hopes the bank, with a 30,000sqm requirement, would anchor one of four commercial towers at 735 Collins Street, which are planned by his Walker Corporation and the Malaysian-based Kuok Group.

The joint venture has approval for 200,000sqm of commercial space on the Collins Street Docklands extension, but with market speculation that project finance is conditional on securing a major tenant, the project could be in jeopardy if another potential tenant, the Herald & Weekly Times, drops out as expected.

News Limited-controlled HWT, which publishes the Herald Sun newspaper, has been toying with the idea of moving from its Dexus-controlled Southgate complex tower to the Docklands, but is now expected to stay at Southbank.

Mr Walker is overseas and could not be contacted yesterday.

Colonial First State, which manages the Commonwealth Property Office Fund, said it had entered into a binding heads of agreement with the Commonwealth Bank. The bank occupies 37 per cent of the Bourke Street building.

^^ The guy is a billionaire and they've already started. Can't they just build speculatively?

People might be billionaires but they might also want to be smart with their money and not partake in risky investments.

Walker Corp are building Tower A and the podium speculatively anyway, plus they're in negotiations with a host of other possible tenants.

Billionaires don't usually become billionaires by being careless. Whatever they choose to do there will be a lot of sound reasoning behind that decision.

"I spent my whole life trying not to be careless" - Vito Corleone

From today's Australian.............

HWT may move to clean, green tower

Maurice Dunlevy | April 17, 2008
NEWS Limited, publisher of The Australian, has left the door open to move its Melbourne newspaper operations to a $400 million building that will be the city's greenest office tower.

Despite market speculation that the News Limited-controlled Herald & Weekly Times will stay at its Southbank office tower, HWT is continuing negotiations that could result in Australia's largest circulation daily newspaper, The Herald Sun, moving to 567 Collins Street, where the APN Property Group plans Melbourne's first six-star green star commercial office building.

HWT has an 18,000sqm requirement after occupying an entire tower in the Dexus-controlled Southgate complex at Southbank for the past decade.

Managing director Peter Blunden said the group was still involved in negotiations with several parties and was likely to make its intentions clear soon.

The $400 million APN building -- 50 per cent of which is being offered to potential buyers for $200 million as part of an APN "de-risking" exercise -- is on the radar for HWT because of Rupert Murdoch's commitment to cut News Corporation's greenhouse emissions by 20 per cent and be carbon neutral by 2010.

The 33-level tower will be Melbourne CBD's first six-star green star commercial office building, with firsts including roller blinds that automatically open and shut, depending on their exposure to the sun.

HWT is also considering the $850 million Docklands complex to be built by Walker Corp and the Kuok Group at 735 Collins Street. It will also have a six-star rating, but the project received a major setback last week when the Commonwealth Bank ruled itself out as a tenant by deciding to stay at its existing office tower at 385 Bourke Street.

The Walker-Kuok complex is unlikely to start without a commitment from a major tenant.
If HWT decides on 571 Collins Street, it will reportedly pay a face rent of more than $420/sqm, which is understood to be more than its current Southbank rent.

Lease negotiations are being directed by Colliers International, the same agency attempting to sell a half share of the complex for $200 million.

Expressions of interest close at the end of the month.

Meanwhile, in other Melbourne CBD leasing moves, stockbroker and financial planner Tolhurst is moving to 333 Collins Street, where it has leased about 2300sqm on the 29th level of the building.

Tolhurst is currently at AMP Capital Investors' Collins Place complex.

Today:

http://ozfrog.thehoddlegrid.net/construction/VillageDocklands20080419.jpg

This one looks like it is slowing down.

A real shame. I was really looking forward to this one.

jesus, this project is still happening unless walker corp states otherwise. qantas you would jump off a cliff if someone told you to

There's been nothing to suggest a slow down. Workers on site and working away as normal. It was never that busy a site anyway, only ever has a few workers on it since they began.

7 news looks like it is about to do a story on the sheds.

EDIT: They had renders of the Equiset converted offices. Look pretty good. I'm not sure if this is Village Docklands though...

BRUMBY GOVERNMENT SETS TREND FOR GREEN OFFICES

Melbourne’s historic Railway Goods Shed in Docklands will be brought back to life with a
Victorian first in modern, sustainable design that is sensitive to heritage value.

Planning Minister Justin Madden announced today that VicUrban, the Building Commission and
the Plumbing Industry Commission will relocate to the Goods Shed North in late 2009, after a
refurbishment will achieve a 5 Star Green Star rating standard, as required by the Brumby
Government.

“The refurbishment of the Goods Shed North will raise the bar in environmental design by
creating an economically feasible sustainable design, incorporating state-of-the-art office
accommodation in an historic building,” Mr Madden said.

Mr Madden said Government agencies were some of the biggest tenants in Melbourne, and the
move to house the three authorities in a refurbished green building demonstrates the Brumby
Government’s long-term commitment to a sustainable built environment.

The Goods Shed project is one of only two in Australia – the other being Sydney’s heritage-listed
88 George St building.

The development will also include retail and café frontage along Village Street to create a
community atmosphere in this key Docklands site.

VicUrban CEO Pru Sanderson said VicUrban had entered into a development agreement with
Equiset, a Grollo Group Company with significant experience in Docklands to develop the
northern half of the shed.

“Equiset is committed to bringing the 19th Century shed into the 21st Century, while maintaining
key elements of its past,” Ms Sanderson said.

“This entire project reinforces VicUrban’s vision to develop Docklands into a sustainable, mixed
use community known for its innovative urban design and environmental leadership.”

Ms Sanderson said VicUrban had also worked closely with Heritage Victoria to ensure all plans
appropriately considered the building’s heritage value.

Building Commissioner and Plumbing Industry Commissioner Tony Arnel said he welcomed the
move to house employees in such a historic and sustainable building.

“Employees from all three Government agencies will directly benefit from this move with
improved indoor environmental quality leading to improved health and wellbeing, and
corresponding productivity gains,” Mr Arnel said.


http://www.vicurban.com/cs/Satellite?blobcol=urldata&blobheader=application%2Fpdf&blobkey=id&blobtable=MungoBlobs&blobwhere=1209025913104&ssbinary=true&blobheadername1=Content-Type&blobheadervalue1=application/pdf&blobheadername2=Content-Dispostion&blobheadervalue2=attachment%3B+filename%3DGoodsShed.pdf

Thanks Wowsim. Great to see something finally happening here.

http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/heritage-shed-with-all-the-goodies-will-be-an-energyefficientinspiration/2008/04/30/1209234958425.html

From The Age

Heritage shed with all the goodies will be an energy-efficient 'inspiration'
May 1, 2008
JASON DOWLING

THE historic heritage-listed railway goods shed at Docklands is to be refurbished and turned into a model energy-efficient office and retail space.

The shed is expected to become Victoria's first heritage-listed office building with a five-star energy rating when work is completed late next year.

Unveiling the plans yesterday, Planning Minister Justin Madden, said the upgrade of the 1889 shed would "raise the bar in environmental design".

The rejuvenated shed, between Bourke and Collins streets, will be open plan with 12-metre high ceilings surrounded by mezzanine side bays. It will become the new home of VicUrban, the Building Commission and the Plumbing Industry Commission.

The redevelopment will also include restaurants and shops. Grollo Group company Equiset will carry out the refurbishment.

Mr Madden described the upgrade as an inspiration. But he conceded that renovations to his own heritage-listed home had probably not brought it up to the five-star standard.

"It's a bit of a challenge to get a heritage building up to five star … but it will have … many of those features that new houses have," he said.

It should be good.,

Today (7/6/08):

http://ozfrog.thehoddlegrid.net/construction/VillageDocklands20080607.jpg

Ooooh - methinks it might be in trouble.....

Ooooh - methinks it might be in trouble.....

I agree..these guys haven't been able to get it together for years....

http://business.theage.com.au/village-docklands-office-deal-20080610-2ol1.html

Village Docklands office deal
Marc Pallisco
June 11, 2008

ENGINEERING giant Connell Wagner may be the first tenant to sign to the $850 million Village Docklands office park being developed by Walker Corporation and the Singapore-based Kuok Group.

Sources say Connell Wagner has chosen the office over another at 567 Collins Street. Connell Wagner issued a 10,000-square-metre leasing requirement last year, announcing it would move from its headquarters at 60 Albert Road in South Melbourne.

It is believed the engineering company extended its lease at Albert Road for 12 months to coincide with the timing of the Village Docklands and 567 Collins Street office buildings.

Connell Wagner managing director Steve Bennett could not be contacted for comment.

Work on the the first building in Village Docklands, 735 Collins Street, started late last year. There is approval for more office buildings, totalling 200,000 sq m, in the area.

There was speculation Commonwealth Bank would relocate to 735 Collins Street, but it decided to stay at its portfolio of CBD properties, including its headquarters at 385 Bourke Street.

The Village Docklands site is where builder Bruno Grollo wanted to build the world's largest tower, rising to 678 metres, in 1999.

A spokesman from Village Docklands declined to comment on the Connell Wagner lease. The Connell Wagner requirement was one of the biggest in the CBD.

Other tenants looking for space include the Herald & Weekly Times, which is seeking 18,000 sq m and said to be considering 567 Collins Street; and Channel Nine, which is believed to have shortlisted sites in Docklands, the CBD and Southbank.

Recently, the Australian Red Cross decided to build its 11,000 sq m headquarters on a site it owns in North Melbourne.

Its other option was to lease space in the CBD and Docklands, where rents have increased substantially over the past year.

Elsewhere on the city fringe, the Complementary College of Medicine is believed to have signed for 660 sq m at the prominent X&Y building in Church Street, Richmond.

The property was leased by Teska Carson, which declined to comment when contacted by BusinessDay.

Another deal, for about 800 sq m at A. Genser & Associates' Elizabeth Street office building in Richmond, is also believed to be in the wings.

Work on the 12,500 sq m building is due to start later this year, but a major tenant is yet to be found.

Both tenants are believed to be paying about $320 a sq m to occupy the Richmond office space, or about $20 a sq m more than they would have paid at the start of the year.

Jones Lang LaSalle Research said office vacancy levels in the inner-eastern precinct had fallen from 7.6% at the end of last year to 7.1% now, and this was putting upward pressure on rents.

Major deals in Richmond this year have included broadband provider Uecomm, which expanded its offices by 1800 sq m at 658 Church Street; architectural firm S2F leasing 1500 sq m at 21 Goodwood Street and consultancy group Amberwise leasing 600 sq m at 650 Bridge Road.

Great news if this happens as this site really needs a win.

Does anyone know what percentage of the first tower would be taken up with 10,000 square metres?

A third.

OK...I know this is just one paragraph out of todays 'Age' article but it still amazes me that we came close to getting this up....way back in 1999!!!! around the height Burj Dubai is today......Alas.... I'm the only one who laments.
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Grollo Tower would have been vile at 678m.

I think, at the current state of the skyline, nothing more than 500 meters at the very most.

^^ hmm, i reckon sometimes you have to stand out to be recognized, then again... look at Taipei.

Probably your right about the Grollo Tower being too high ??? for Melbourne, but it was more that it's amazing height was nearly possible here, in todays world it's something that could never happen. In the brochure announcing the tower it stated...'for a moment in time the tallest structure built by man' Melbourne or Australia wont ever get to make such a statement...now back to these campus thingys.....

If the Grollo Tower did get built, the rest of the world would have forgotten about it by now anyway.

grollo tower would have looked to out of place there, i reckon the only areas where it would look ok would be in the east end or centre of the cbd, or maybe near eureka but otherwise it would have just wreckd the skyline

^^^^
I tend to agree.
Also IMO Eureka's location so compliments the skyline.
This is one building they so got it right....great design, great height, great location.

C'mon - let's not debate the Grollo Tower AGAIN. It was nine years ago!

the grollo tower wasnt even that good of a design anyway, ya cant just build tall ya gotta think of good design value too! i did like the height tho, just a different tower design

Grollo Tower would have been vile at 678m.

I think, at the current state of the skyline, nothing more than 500 meters at the very most.

Agreed.

^^ "I said whip it!"

^^ whip it into shape!

"whip it, whip it good....."

Who keeps bringing up that friggin Grollo Tower all the time???????

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By my reckoning, that's over 1000m in that pic.

We've got a Never Built thread you know.

Remember you should never say never!

Would it actually have looked that tall in that view?

If so... :cry:

FFS enough with the Grollo tower already. Gosh!

Seems to be a bit more reo on site.

http://i28.tinypic.com/2vaxftx.jpg

'you will never live it down 'less you whip it'. LOL Thanks guys (Spuds) for welcoming my new avatar.
Sorry I chimed in a bit late but had not visited this thread for a little while.

A mate of mine that works at Connell Wagner told me the other day that they were gonna move their HQ to Docklands soon so i guess theyve made a deal with Village Docklands afterall?

Website coming soon for Quattro Collins Street (Cnr Collins and Batmans Hill Drv)

http://www.quattrocollinsstreet.com.au/

saw a render of it on a board onsite, and it looks about the same height as AXA... doesn't look overly exciting either.

im just glad this project is getting underway such a huge gap...
as long as the SAMA development gets up im not too fussed about the design and height of this as long as it create some density and fills the gap. We're getting a 155m tower out of it so it shud be ok.

Arn't they building the podiums for the tower's first? Could that be what's on the renders?

im just glad this project is getting underway such a huge gap...
as long as the SAMA development gets up im not too fussed about the design and height of this as long as it create some density and fills the gap. We're getting a 155m tower out of it so it shud be ok.

yeah it will definitely create some bulk in the area, and you're right, there will be other projects in close vicinity that will do a good job of grabbing our attention :)

Small render of the retail from Walker Corp:

http://www.walkercorp.com.au/images/204_docklandsretail.jpg

It's a laneway with a roof! Interesting, but it may defeat the purpose....

That idea worked fine at QV.

Woot. Workers were covering the fencing with advertising for the site, including a render on the corner, complete with the tower and the goods shed. Will have a photo shortly.

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Nice to see a glazed lift core :-)

How tall is Village Docklands going to be and when is construction going to commence?

Looks OK, such a relief that this site will finally happen.

I dig it :D

/\/\ nice, nice, nice.

pwc minus shite podium, batessmart need an injection of new ideas or their legacy will be that of exceptional resi towers and same old office BLOCKS.

So have they finally found a tenant now?

It's not exactly life changing. But I like it :)

The big tower won't get built for at least a couple of years so the design is only preliminary and will change.

Good to see the name Village Docklands has been dumped, doesn't really look anything like a Village anymore ;-)

wow this is gonna be great :)
maybe we'll have to change thread title to 735 Collins Street or something now?

i love the glass ! looks good ! not the worst down there, could have been better, but its still cool !:)

i am 99% sure ( but just confirming so Silver and Tays - dont jump on me ) but this is not the same as the sama site - Sama is next to the age and Wurrandinji road way more yeah?

cheers

SAMA is up the road on the other side of the goods shed.

SAMA is up the road on the other side of the goods shed.

site 6 yeah?

cheers

hope it is really really prelim as it's not very exciting atm.

It's a good height, yes (for the tower anyway) and at least the campus blocks seem taller then AXA, so it's a little bit of an improvement.

TO be honest I preferred the building envelope they created when it was going to be Shangri-la. But hey, if the design of the tower changes some more, hopefully it can be improved somewhat.

CRA building Version 1.0
(Building on right)

http://www.thecollectormm.com/gallery/postcards/1920s-1980s/slides/Bird'sEye12.jpg

CRA building Version 1.1

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/2678/picture005mc9.jpg

What a piece of boring crap! :down:

Not the most unique design.....but glass towers are timeless......

i dont mind it. but yes another glass box. well atleast its over 150m. something sydney isnt get these days,.
for those after height, tallest= 156m

How shit.

Another BHP. Another rear-end (core) the renders dont want you to see.

Lift your game, Melbourne.

The big tower won't get built for at least a couple of years so the design is only preliminary and will change.


Enough said. Stop your sooking. :bash:

More... It also looks like the southwestern parcel of land has been left empty currently in the renders.

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/5065/quattropl6.jpg

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/6306/quattro3fq7.jpg

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Thanks for those renders Shumway. I sort of like the piled-up bulk and angles of the whole project, and when it's all complete I think it will be a pretty impressive addition to the skyline - much more than a filler.

Imagine the view of it from Bolte Bridge, which I noticed again this week is now giving a truly startling entry into Melbourne.

I really like it... am i retarded?

A newer Collins Place.....I think it is fine.....

735 Collins Street Melbourne
Podium retail and The Goods Shed

The Goods Shed and the Retail Podium of the 735 Collins Street Melbourne development presents exciting opportunities for iconic retailers, specialty retailers, restaurants and cafes.

This landmark retail and commercial development seeks to bring together Melbourne’s most exciting retailers to create a vibrant city block. The commercial buildings above the retail podium will attract clients who will experience a fresh start in a workplace designed to encourage collaboration and productivity. Development of the podium has commenced and is expected to be complete in 2009.

Docklands Retail precinct will also include a 6,000 square metre centre located in one of Melbourne’s icons – the historic Goods Shed No 2. The Goods Shed No 2, built in 1835 will receive sensitive heritage refurbishment to create a unique retail experience, capturing the imagination of Melbourne’s residents and visitors. The building is of aesthetic, historic and architectural significance.

A newer Collins Place.....I think it is fine.....

How is this anything like Collins Place?

How is this anything like Collins Place?

It will have a connected retail podium at the bottom with office buildings above (if you read the press release material they compare it to collins place).

Enough said. Stop your sooking. :bash:

I don:t see how this is sooking. It is a perfectly reasonable comment.