It's a world class stadium, no doubt there, that would be a great stadium in Germany or France, I guess the issue is the infrastructure around it though, hence the talk that despite having this amazing stadium Donetsk might not end up being a host city. What's the deal, does Donetsk need a new airport or rail or road? There is so little updates from the Ukraine that it's really hard to tell what the situation is or if UEFA's concerns are being addressed.

It's interesting that it's a private stadium, are any of the Polish one's private or all govt owned? Hard to imagine a team like Gdansk needing Baltic Arena lol, they are very lucky chaps to get the stadium they are getting:P

Can't disagree with the fact that if there's no suitable and convenient infrastructure then having such gigantic and pretty stadium doesn't make any sense! No idea what are they thinking now in Ukraine! I believe for UA it's like now or never! If they won't begin some serious improvements in all fields all over the country in the nearest time (maybe there's a lot already going on there but we don't see this, guys, please, share the progress with us!) that would mean an epic fail in the eyes of whole Europe for this, truly to say, magnificent country! The only hope that could rest in the worst case is private investitions but unfortunately everyone knows the current situation as in the world as well as in Ukraine, so that's quite impossible because this just won't revise all country's state and I doubt UA economy will benefit from that! :ohno:

You are not wrong, it's now or never for the Ukraine and I wonder if they realise it? Doesn't seem like it.

The Shaktar Donetsk stadium is a private project for a private domestic team no? So it's really independent of Euro 2012, it's not built for the tournament and it would have been built anyway.

Certainly Shaktar just build their stadium, not the infrastructure around it and leading to it, that's not their responsibility nor should it. As the table below shows that Donetsk is still looking precarious.

So the real question is not what is going on with the stadium, because none are looking particularly risky, but are the other criteria being met? Roads, airports, hotels, public transport, that's the tricky stuff.

Platini gives his report in later September to EUFA, and we are in mid/late July, so that's August and then September, with a decision in November, it's not much time. Yushchenko called the Ukrainian preparation 'shoddy' the other day, and instead of being focused on 2012 the focus is on political infighting and corruption.

Anyway, you can see why Krakow feel hard done by, and why IMO Krakow and Chorzow will end up as host cities, It's going to be an interesting few months.

http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/3411/beztytuuwwt.png

Warsaw stadium week ago (14.07.09)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Stadionxlecia.jpg/800px-Stadionxlecia.jpg (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0e/Stadionxlecia.jpg)

for bigger size, click on image

Good progress there, starting to come together!

Actually, it's not that true as it looks on the table in both countries! In Poland and Ukraine situation is way better than it is shown here! But again we need some updates from UA to prove that things are moving there to the better side! Anyway, after seeing such fast progress being done on Warsaw stadium it's really hard to believe that the city has risk level 4 about stadium! :nuts:

Donbas Arena at night, testing the lights:
http://s04.radikal.ru/i177/0907/bb/f49f2cace7e6.jpg


Harkiv stadium at nigt:

http://v3.metallist.kharkov.ua/files/gallery/11/131.jpg

Better map of polish roads in 2012:

http://www.bankfotek.pl/thumb/293215.jpeg (http://www.bankfotek.pl/image/293215.jpeg)

red - u/c
green - done
yellow - bid
white - in plans

The planned one's in white are interesting, the one that dissects the top of the country deserves to be a freeway though. Still, it's shaping up as a pretty good road network. Keep it up guys! Great to watch!

You gotta give credit to Euro 2012, it was the impetus to finally get a lot of stuff done!

Now that one is superb map if regarding all directions (especially north-east :banana: and east)! Poland will become a motorway country of Eastern Europe (or Central as you wish! :))! Very perspective country's development!!

Polish regional railways finally managed to get through all the staff changes / politicall fuzz and plan to spend some 300m euro on new trains. Sounds fine, maybe the new PESA product? -

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/4411/pesaelfpesa.jpg



Pre-agreement on the new trains for Przewozy Regionalne

Przewozy Regionalne (PR), Poland's national regional rail services operator, signed a pre-agreement on the purchase of passenger rolling stock for inter-regional services.

The tender for the fast inter-regional trains will be opened soon.

The pre-agreement was signed by PR with the Centre for EU Transport Projects (CEUTP).


Pararelly the tender for a feasibility study for the project was won by a Polish-Spanish consortium, with TOR Transport Consultants a leading member.

PR is going to buy approx. 70 four- or five-sectioned EMUs for up to
160 km/h, capable of carrying up to 200 passengers.

The deliveries are to end in 2014.

PR is willing to spend 1.321 billion PLN (EUR 311m), half of which is to be provided by the EU.

The purchase is supported by JASPERS initiative.

Warszawa:

http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/1135/narodowy2.jpg

Poznan:

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_orrgx1JZBmc/SmYpz_emSWI/AAAAAAAAItg/Lp1BrE-0oL8/s800/IMG_1440.JPG

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_orrgx1JZBmc/SmYpbPnFaOI/AAAAAAAAItQ/3kquwmJdlgc/s800/IMG_1421.JPG

Poznan rises amazingly fast! Great to see such booming sites!! :cheers:

Luhankteplovoz against Ukrzaliznytsia's plans to buy trains from Hyundai

Luhanskteplovoz, a Ukrainian monopolist in the production of cargo diesel locomotives, do not like the idea of Ukrzaliznytsia of buying 10 interregional electric and 4 diesel trains from Korean Hyundai.

- This intention triggers nothing but bewilderment, as Luhanskteplovoz has recently put forth a proposal concerning the creation of new models of interregional diesel and electric trains with prospects for their launch before the [Euro 2012] European Football Championship, and we will in every way prove our advantages - the company's press service said cited by Kyiv Post.

According to Luhanskteplovoz's statement, the company is able to manufacture such trains in keeping with the technical requirements of Ukrzaliznytsia. This concerns high-speed trains capable of speeds of 200 km per hour and higher.

- Why not place the order in Ukraine and thus involve about 100 companies engaged in the manufacture of electric trains? As Ukraine has its own [locomotive] industry, buying products from outside shows a lack pf foresight and is not economically justified - the company's press service said.

I think if the idea of "Luhanskteplovoz" will not be approved by the government of Ukraine, than it will show how indeed stupid they are!! How can they make an order to expensive Korean company if they have their own, national manufacturer that can produce, as it was mentioned, similar trains?! They just all went nuts it seems, just want to plunder as much as it's possible! :ohno:

Freshly updated Poland's Euro2012 Master Plan.

http://masterplan.2012.org.pl/

Poor Dnepropetrovsk!

thanks for info ufonut progress in Wroclaw looks amazing :cheers:

^ This one's a really useful page! Shows a big progress being done in Poland! Amazing to see such temps in times of world recession! :cheers:

:)

Construction of a new airport terminal in Wroclaw has just started.

Costs - 100 million $
Size = 40.000 sqm
Capacity - 3.2 million passengers
Parking - 1000 lots

Good stuff !Any renders of said terminal?

I must say the Wroclaw stadium is amongst my favourites, looks so white and streamlined, like it was designed by Apple or something.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=36502396&postcount=1019

^^Visualisations

Cheers dude, that's a gorgeous looking little airport, same architects as the stadium I see. I'm lovin their style.

Kiev Olympic Stadium:

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr114/vitaska_2008/C7A8DD0DC704-19.png

http://i475.photobucket.com/albums/rr114/vitaska_2008/B58922AD198E-19.png

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New train station in Katowice - will be ready in 2012 :cheers:

http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/2/6825/z6825972X.jpg

http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/7/6853/z6853187X.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y197/odbiciepalmy/DSC00203.jpg

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y197/odbiciepalmy/DSC00205.jpg



Warszawa Zachodnia (Warsaw West) train station - should be ready in 2012

http://grafik.rp.pl/grafika_zw/385373,167437,9.jpg

http://grafik.rp.pl/grafika_zw/385373,167438,9.jpg

http://grafik.rp.pl/grafika_zw/385373,167436,9.jpg

Warszawa Wschodnia (Warsaw East) train station - should be ready in 2012

http://grafik.rp.pl/grafika_zw/385373,167433,9.jpg

http://grafik.rp.pl/grafika_zw/385373,167432,9.jpg

http://grafik.rp.pl/grafika_zw/385373,167435,9.jpg

Warsaw Stadium train station (near the Euro 2012 Stadium :) :cheers: ) - should be ready in 2012

http://grafik.rp.pl/grafika_zw/385373,167431,9.jpg

http://grafik.rp.pl/grafika_zw/385373,167430,9.jpg

Warsaw Okecie airport underground train terminal - should be ready in 2012

http://grafik.rp.pl/grafika_zw/385373,167429,9.jpg

Warsaw Powisle train station - recently revitalized

http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/3299/warszawapowislenoc92.jpg

http://images39.fotosik.pl/153/76dc4b8f6b5431d3med.jpg

http://images44.fotosik.pl/157/64496dd833fae7f2med.jpg

Warsaw Ochota train station - recently revitalized

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/2172/s6305060.jpg

I dont believe in all those railway investments, because our railway is very bad working company :(

I dont believe in all those railway investments, because our railway is very bad working company :(

Agreed :ohno:

Agreed :ohno:

i think the Warsaw ones will be complete ;)

Well, the Okęcie Train Station is now ready in a crude state, but there is no railway to get there ;). Eastern Warsaw is just some small-scale reconstruction, so there is also a chance to do it. Wetern Warsaw... I don't know... maybe. However, all those reconstructions are still far from scale and quality I want - I dream for a station like that in Katowice :)

Strange to see such design of Kyiv Olympic Stadium.. Why during the tender they couldn't find a little bit better solution, something special than that simple and kind of ugly one?! Indeed cheap and very popular look.. :ohno:

But Warsaw rocks with so many new stations to be done before the championship!! Just can't believe all this and many other infrastructure projects are going to be realized in the nearest three years! Awesome! :banana:

I have to admit that i'm really surprised at these plans concerning Warszawa Wschodnia and the Stadium stations because i have heard a lot in the media that it is impossible to build them before Euro.
That would be great but to be honest i have some doubts.

I have to admit that i'm really surprised at these plans concerning Warszawa Wschodnia and the Stadium stations because i have heard a lot in the media that it is impossible to build them before Euro.
That would be great but to be honest i have some doubts.

Its just a renovation not a total rebuild :)

I have to admit that i'm really surprised at these plans concerning Warszawa Wschodnia and the Stadium stations because i have heard a lot in the media that it is impossible to build them before Euro.
That would be great but to be honest i have some doubts.

The only one impossible thing is to open an umbrella inside the ass ;) They will renovate all these stations also because many of them will be made by the private funding (Wa-wa Zachodnia, Katowice)

You seem to be very enthusiastic, Latvian friend, so let me show you few of the investments in road branch in Warsaw. That's the branch I'm working in ;)

http://blog.zw.com.pl/files/2008/06/lopuszanska.jpg

Jerusalem Avenue and Łopuszanska Interchange - concract already signed, construction will start in few days, chance to be build in 2012 - 100%

http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/8/6779/z6779048X.jpg

Home Army Road - contract already signed, construction will start in few weeks, chance - 100%

http://www.halamtpolska.pl/userfiles/37294869(1).jpg

Mars Interchange - under construction

http://warszawskakomunikacja.blox.pl/resource/mostplnarup.JPG

Northern Bridge - under construction

http://www.tarcho.pl/components/com_fpslideshow/images/modlinska.jpg

Żerań Bridge - under construction, or start in few days

And many other things are under preparation for tenders.

Is it true that German cities/stadia may substitute the Ukrainian ones?

Is it true that German cities/stadia may substitute the Ukrainian ones?

NO

NO

Why no? The possibility is very high. Let's suggest that in december UEFA will declare that only Kiev is ready in Ukraine (and all is going for this decision). And then what??
4 cities in Poland + 1 in Ukraine - this will create many problems. We will have 5 stadiums insted of 8. Matches should be played more often, hotels and airoports will be full of fans, etc.
Such scenario will make UEFA to find hosts in Germany, because cities there are ready after WC 2006 and don't need big preparations in such little period.
This is objective reality.

Such scenario will make FIFA to find hosts in Germany, because cities there are ready after WC 2006 and don't need big preparations in such little period.
This is objective reality.
The so called objective reality is that, in worst case, Poland with its surplus stadiums is able to host the Euro alone. EOT

The so called objective reality is that, in worst case, Poland with its surplus stadiums is able to host the Euro alone. EOT
Exactly!!! Even if Ukraine couldnt make it, there we still have Krakow and Chorzow - in 2012 they will be ready for sure! Because despite decission of UEFA that at this moment we're organising E2012 only in 4 cities, whole preparations in Krakow and Chorzow are completly still in move! They are reserve cities, so its normal that in case of Ukraine's troubles, Krakow and Chorzow are better solution than Euro with Germany <-- nobody in Poland will accept that, and i think our goverment knows about it. To sum up; if no Ukraine, whole Euro in PL.
But of course decissions are in Uefas hand. ;)

But of course decissions are in Uefas hand. ;)

Amen

Can someone tell me what are the chances that final match will be held in Warsaw?

Can someone tell me what are the chances that final match will be held in Warsaw?

ask Platini :)
When asked yesterday in Poznan this is what he said

Discussion on this issue is still ongoing. You all know the situation and the problems of the Ukraine. At the beginning of the journey, both partners were in identical situations. However as a result of the recent economic crisis, the current situation is no longer so clear. Poland has made a big effort. Ukraine continues to make these efforts. You know very well, however, that the amount of financial resources at the disposal of the two countries are very different. In December, any further decisions will be made. All of our previous decisions you know very well.


http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=40352018&postcount=736 that is the full interview but in Polish...Yesterday Platini was in Gdansk and Poznan, today he is Wroclaw.

Look at what they do for him in Poland, he is treated like Royalty everywhere http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XESjK1eavwk&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.skyscrapercity.com%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D303762%26page%3D338&feature=player_embedded

Well if it's like 4 or 6 cities in Poland and 1 or 2 in Ukraine then it's a bit silly that the final would be in the Ukraine. Eufa have for a long while wanted 6 cities in Poland, but have held back from doing it to give Ukraine a chance to get up to speed, this 6 months extension was a last minute reprieve. Maybe Ukraine will manage it, maybe not, time will tell I guess.

Latest from Plats and the gang, off the EUFA site:
http://www.uefa.com/uefa/keytopics/kind=64/newsid=864305.html

UEFA delegation visits Polish host cities, stadiums
Monday 27 July 2009 EUFA.com

A delegation led by UEFA President Michel Platini visited the UEFA EURO 2012™ host cities and stadiums of Gdansk, Poznan and Wroclaw on 26/27 July and met with representatives of the Polish Football Association, government, cities and stadiums.

UEFA support
Michel Platini was satisfied with the current level of preparations in Poland and assured the Polish organisers that UEFA will continue to support them in the realisation of this major sporting project.

End of November
The UEFA President also took the opportunity at a press briefing to remind the media of the situation in Ukraine, with Kiev the only city currently in a position to host matches – not including the final – and that the other candidate cities have until the end of November to provide all the necessary guarantees concerning the development of the infrastructure needed to host matches at the tournament, as decided by the UEFA Executive Committee last May.

December decision
The UEFA Executive Committee will take a final decision on the host cities for the 2012 UEFA European Championship on the occasion of its 10/11 December meeting in Madeira, Portugal.

Man, Ukraine has so little time left to make huge improvements so that UEFA could give few cities a chance to host! All this is a big headache for whole country.. Just look at them, their situation is hopeless.. Feel very sorry for this great country.. :ohno:

Tomasz M. Bladyniec, thanks for your cool projects! Warsaw is being improved every day nicer and nicer! I see these are very important and strategic infrastructure objects of country's scales!! Thanks for sharing because this pleases the eye of each person! :cheers:

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part of a show for Michel Platini while visiting Wroclaw. That was awesome, this evening in Pergola except Michel Platini was something about 10-15k people.

I will put other vids of the show also.

del

Uefa already said that so let's stop speculating, there is no possibility for Poland to have 6 cities hosting Euro 2012.

These are the scenarias(confirmed by Uefa in may) from best to worst:
A. 4 cities for each country
B. 4 for Poland and 3 for Ukraine
C. 4 for Poland and 2 for Ukraine(Kiev plus the best of the rest), only 1 quarterfinal for Ukraine.

So it's gonna be between 6 and 8 cities total, no less and no more than that.

The final for now is for Warsaw's, Kiev has 4 months to get it back, but for now it's behind Warsaw.

This is the REAL situation, all other speculations are pure utiopia.

Uefa already said that so let's stop speculating, there is no possibility for Poland to have 6 cities hosting Euro 2012.

These are the scenarias(confirmed by Uefa in may) from best to worst:
A. 4 cities for each country
B. 4 for Poland and 3 for Ukraine
C. 4 for Poland and 2 for Ukraine(Kiev plus the best of the rest), only 1 quarterfinal for Ukraine.

So it's gonna be between 6 and 8 cities total, no less and no more than that.

The final for now is for Warsaw's, Kiev has 4 months to get it back, but for now it's behind Warsaw.

This is the REAL situation, all other speculations are pure utiopia.

Except Platini has said they will look at other cities if need be.

If Ukraine doesn't make it on time, or only Kiev makes it, then all bets are off and it's makes no sense to talk in absolutes.

Maybe they will make it and it will be 4-4, but if it's not then don't rule anything out, that's what I'm saying. No one expected a 6 month extension for Ukraine, so quite frankly no one can really say with certainty what will happen in the future. Good luck to them, but it all remains to be seen.

AFP article from today:

Ukraine running out of time to convince Euro doubters
Tue, Jul 28th - AFP

PARIS, July 28, 2009 (AFP) - Ukraine has just weeks to prove the country can fulfil the promises it made when it won the right jointly with Poland to host the Euro 2012 championships.

UEFA, concerned about delays in the preparations, has already scaled back the programme, dropping two cities, Dnipopetrovsk and Odessa, from the list of venues and casting doubt on Kiev as the scene for the final.

Joint hosts Poland, however, has received a clean bill of health from UEFA for its share of the 2012 arrangements which include venues at Warsaw, Wroclaw, Poznan and Gdansk.

UEFA president Michel Platini, visiting the Ukrainian capital last month, set a deadline of November 30 for the Ukrainians to make good their promises but the decisions that count will be made in the next few weeks.

Last week, a delegation of UEFA technical experts visited each of the four remaining Ukrainian sites - in Kiev, in Donetsk, Lviv and Kharkov - to judge whether stadium building as well as investments in airports, roads and hotels could meet the deadline.

Their conclusions will be presented to Platini at a meeting scheduled for September 25 in Bordeaux, France.

Things are not looking good for the Ukrainians, who have suffered extremely badly in this year's financial crash.

According to Kiev's 'Korrespondent' magazine, the 50 super-rich families comprising Ukraine's elite saw their fortunes drop by 75 percent and private sector capital for investment in the tournament is just not there.

Until Platini's visit in June, construction of the Olympic Stadium in Kiev had been stalled for more than a year due to a legal battle involving rival landowners.

Last week, lawmaker Rawil Safiullin, who heads a parliamentary committee overseeing the works, said a large part of the 16 million dollars allocated to the stadium project had disappeared.

"It spread somewhere on its way," he told Ukrainian newspaper Today.

At soccer-crazy Donetsk, whose local team Shakhtar won the UEFA Cup last season, a magnificent new 50,000-seater stadium is scheduled to open next month.

But it may never be used for the Euro tournament because adequate airports, hotels and highways are lacking.

The existing airport, modernized in the 1970s on the site of a former Soviet airforce training field, is too small to cope with the flow of fans and the road into town is regularly clogged with commuter traffic.

A planned five-star hotel in the city close to the Russian border is just a drawing board concept, due to the lack of private sector capital needed to trigger investment from European Bank for Reconstruction and Development.

The transport issue is a serious headache for UEFA planners in Poland and Ukraine - two vast countries with decrepit and slow trains, few motorways, and with burgeoning moneyed classes who go everywhere by car.

The feuding between Ukraine's political leaders is the unhelpful background to this story of delays and inadequate planning, and seems set to get even more vicious in the months up to presidential elections, expected in January next year.

The transport minister Yosip Vinsky resigned last month, warning the disagreements could prove fatal for the tournament.

"The prime minister (Yulia Tymoshenko) is blocking the deployment of sufficient resources for the construction of infrastructure for Euro 2012," he complained.

Sports minister Yury Pavlenko remains confident although conceding much remains to be done: "We are placing the accent on those areas which according to UEFA have a high level of risk," he said.

The worst case secenario could be for only Kiev to win UEFA's approval among the Ukrainian venues, leaving the matches scheduled for the three other sites to go elsewhere.

Asked by French sports daily L'Equipe if Berlin and Leipzig, in nearby Germany, could be considered, Platini admitted this was indeed an option.

Equipe is so full of s**t, i saw on polish TV Platini being asked about plan B with Germany and he said: ABSOLUTELY NOT POSSIBLE. It will be 100% Poland and Ukraine, they just have to decide how many cities, between 6 and 8.

Metal is right, Platini promised to make it only Poland and Ukraine and no doubt that will happen, it's absolutely impossible for UEFA to change theit mind; the only thing we can keep guessing is how many cities will make it before November!

Leaders of Kyiv, Donetsk, Lviv, Kharkiv still sweating Euro 2012 deadline

24 July, 20:53 | Interfax-Ukraine

Heads of the local government agencies in the four Ukrainian cities that seek to host the Euro 2012 European Football Championship finals have announced a joint statement and urged all the political forces "to declare a taboo any unconsidered statements on hosting the Euro 2012 in Ukraine."

"We call on all political forces and movements, public organizations and their leaders to declare a taboo any unconsidered statements on holding the Euro 2012 matches in Ukraine and hope for discreet behavior and objective comments only," reads the statement signed by the mayors of Donetsk, Lviv, Kharkiv and the first vice mayor of Kyiv in Kharkiv on Friday.

According to the statement, "the guarantees provided to UEFA as for the development of sports and social infrastructure in the hosing cities in the context of the terms and requirements set by UEFA, as well as for the comfort and security of all the participants and visitors during the event have been fully confirmed today by practical action - the construction of stadiums, airports, runways, hotels, highways in the cities and intercity railways, the arrangement of medical servicing and cultural activities."

The authors of the statement claim that the government's concrete action and "their determination" will make it possible to realize all the undertaken commitments in 2010 and 2012 and finalize the preparation of the hosting cities for the Euro 2012.

They also point out that the recent decisions taken in parliament enable the government to start more active financing of the Euro 2012 preparations.

The statement was passed at the first regional working meeting on preparing and holding the Euro 2012 in Kharkiv on July 24. The meeting was chaired by Vice Premier Ivan Vasiunyk and attended by Football Federation of Ukraine head Hryhoriy Surkis.

As was reported earlier, the UEFA Executive Committee at a meeting in Bucharest on May 13, 2009, confirmed Kyiv and four cities in Poland - Warsaw, Wroclaw, Poznan and Gdansk - as host cities for Euro 2012 events.

Kyiv was confirmed as a host city for group matches, quarterfinals and a semifinal. At the same time, the final match of Euro 2012 will be held in Kyiv only if specific conditions with regard to the stadium, airport infrastructure, regional transport and accommodation are met by November 30, 2009.

Three other venues in Ukraine - Donetsk, Lviv and Kharkiv - will host group matches if they meet the same conditions by this deadline.

The UEFA Executive Committee decided not to host Euro 2012 matches in Dnipropetrovsk and Odesa.

A final decision with regard to the Ukrainian cities will be taken by November 30, 2009.

Dear users, I insist to use name KYIV instead of KIEV (Ukrainian instead of Russian name of the city). Thanks.

Dear users, I insist to use name KYIV instead of KIEV (Ukrainian instead of Russian name of the city). Thanks.

What a ridiculous proposition. We are on an English-speaking forum, mind your surroundings.

Since 1995 KYIV is the English name suggested by Ukrainian authorities and used by them in all official English documents. There is no traditional English name for the city (like Warsaw for Warszawa for example), so English speaking nations used Russian name as for a city in USSR.
However, many names have been changed in last 20 years, like - there is no Kishinev in English anymore, but Chisinau, and no Belorussia, but Belarus.

Same, Kyiv instead of Kiev.

You can see an example in the post above.

I insist to use name MOSKVA instead of MOSCOW or MOSCU :)

PS No English speaking people can pronounce Kyiv right/

Is this neccessary here...If Ukranians would rather we called it Kyiv instead of Kiev, then let it be, but untill one says so here then there is no point in creating Argument

To make u all feel better...Warsaw national stadium from other side of river...Thanks to Cichus1 from Polish Forum for the photo
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb80/visualmark/P1220317.jpg

Are there any real tangible plans for the area surrounding the National Stadium to be constructed prior to 2012? It seems to have such potential for beautiful expansion and modernization.

haha - you guys are going a little over the top about cranes though :lol:

I also wanted to put this picture here. It would be a nice advertisement, with a sign: "Poland - the biggest construction site in Europe" :D

Expressway Lviv-Lyiv (about 500km) under reconstruction until 2011

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_gvethXaaw24/SjgaX3g2igI/AAAAAAAAAuQ/yF9eZtentdo/s1600-h/km_483_M-06_Road_Kyiv-Chop.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_gvethXaaw24/SjgaHveD1WI/AAAAAAAAAto/THsX6X81yV4/s1600-h/km_267_M-06_Road_Kyiv-Chop-1.JPG
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_A2fzmvgRTU&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Feuro2012highway%2Eblogspot%2Ecom%2F&feature=player_embedded

This might seem to be an odd question, but does anyone know who the investor for Litvinovka Entertainment is? (www.litvinovka.com). The only thing i can find, is that they have one, but i really want and need to know who it is. Please Help!

logvyn, thanks for informing us that highways are still being constructed in Ukraine, especially such important one as Lviv-Kyiv! :cheers:

OMG, I counted 15 cranes in the background of picture posted by Cracovia! That's a real boom with construction in all Poland!! :)

In Warsaw we have a Terex Demag CC 2500 with 96m arm reach. It works on the Copernicus Science Center.

http://www.demag24.com/r_en/products/cc2500-1.aspx

Ukrainian stadiums - state of the progress:

DONETSK - 95%
http://xmages.net/out.php/i329457_stadmini.png

KHARKIV - 85%
http://uaeuro2012.com/images/harkov.png

KYIV - 10%
http://uaeuro2012.com/images/olimpiysky.png

LVIV - 10%
http://uaeuro2012.com/images/lvov.png

DNIPROPETROVSK - 100%
http://uaeuro2012.com/images/dnepropetrovsk.png

ODESSA - 10%
http://uaeuro2012.com/images/odesa.png

From www.uaeuro2012.com (http://uaeuro2012.com/)

Too bad nobody can read any of those names..... ^^^^^

del

http://www.euractiv.com/css/design/logo.gif

Ukraine's Euro 2012 organisation in doubt

Published: Thursday 30 July 2009

Due to the ongoing economic crisis, Ukraine is having difficulty financing the infrastructure needed to co-host Euro 2012 with Poland. According to UEFA's alternative plan, some matches may take place in the German cities of Berlin and Leipzig instead.

Only Kiev, the capital of Ukraine, might maintain the right to host Euro 2012 matches, with approval for three other Ukrainian cities - Donetsk, Lviv and Kharkiv - dependent on the progress they make over the next four months.

UEFA's executive committee will take the final decision regarding host cities in December and expects Ukraine to offer concrete guarantees that the country will be able to fulfil its promises by then.

Earlier this month, Ukrainian President Viktor Yushchenko accused the government of breaking promises made regarding financing the tournament. Just days before, Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko had said preparations to co-host the event with Poland were proceeding normally despite the effects of the global financial crisis.

According to UEFA, Kiev could host some matches but not even the capital is in a position to host the final. Serious infrastructure problems must still be resolved regarding airport infrastructure, transport networks and accommodation if the country is to be able to welcome a huge influx of football fans and ensure the smooth running of the championships.

Ukraine and Poland were chosen as co-hosts of the event in 2007.

On an inspection visit in Poland earlier this week, UEFA President Michel Platini said he was satisfied with the "current level of preparations" in the country. All four of the country's Euro 2012 host cities - Gdańsk, Wrocław, Poznań and Warsaw - have already received initial approval to stage matches.

While officials insist that the right to host the tournament will not be withdrawn from Ukraine or Poland, UEFA is anxious about delays in preparing for the competition. The body has put together a reserve plan, according to which the distribution of cities hosting matches could be altered and some of the matches might take place in the German cities of Berlin and Leipzig.

Link (http://www.euractiv.com/en/sports/ukraine-euro-2012-organisation-doubt/article-184535#)

Too bad nobody can read any of those names..... ^^^^^

He got Kyiv right but still managed to butcher half of them. :lol:

http://zapodaj.net/images/dbaf7c41b0b8.jpg

^^Gdańsk

Great pic, wow, it is flying along!

Great progress!
Btw, I see some railtracks next to the future Arena, will AB have a railway station?

Great progress!
Btw, I see some railtracks next to the future Arena, will AB have a railway station?

thats the plan :)

^^ In 2012 not will build.

^^

really nice :D

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Since it was finished not that long ago, i thought I'd post some pics of Terminal 2 in Warsaw, which of course will be utilised in Euro 2012.

Awesome modern new terminal, looking forward to the new airports in Wroclaw, Gdansk and Krakow! and I hear new airports in Ukraine as well!

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3579/3560782227_cd968d2c23_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2380/2512006100_020597c907_b.jpg

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http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/5972/p1030663r.jpg

Is the tower on top of the terminal 2 in Warsaw in use??

Donbass-Arena at night

http://2012ua.net/Photonews/Donbass_Arena/24308__max_gal.jpg
http://2012ua.net/Photonews/Donbass_Arena/24300__max_gal.jpg

^^ wow, really beautiful illumination, and the pond nearby only increases the effect :). :cheers: Does Donbas arena has only one type of illumination, or could it be illuminated in other colours?

I don't really know. On this pic illumination test
http://sport.img.com.ua/img/forall/a/5408/68.jpg

^^ Big UFO :D

Warsaw Airport looks pretty and volumetric! What will be its traffic capacity per year?
It is also nice to see some serious improvements being done in UA! Really hope all four cities will make it! :cheers:

Surely they didn't finish off the whole airport in Warsaw? I flew through the airport last month and there were still a lot of areas that were taped off and looked like they were still far off from completion. Nevertheless, it's a beautiful airport and a much needed upgrade from T1. :)

Warsaw Airport looks pretty and volumetric! What will be its traffic capacity per year?

About 10-12 mln people.

Ukraine became the first team to win the UEFA European Under-19 Championship on home soil as a goal early in each half from Denys Garmash and Dmytro Korkishko earned a clinical victory against England in Donetsk.
http://www.uefa.com/multimediafiles/photo/competitions/under19/86/90/05/869005_biglandscape.jpg

About 10-12 mln people.
Terminals are made for 20 million pax. Inappropriate runaway and ban for night flights makes airport capable of serving only 12 million... Further development of the airport isn't probable due to the protest of the inhabitants of the neighboring districts. For about 5 years there are plans for a new hub, only plans so far...

I think they just need to build a big ass airport somewhere, like a major major one, Spanish, German, Dutch cities etc, they all have one, and as they say with demand, build it and they will come.

But for now F. Chopin is very nice as a medium size airport.

Yushchenko uses veto to block Euro 2012 funds
http://www.ukranews.com/eng/article/212795.html

good grief!

^^Great president in the right place well done go Ukraine :okay::drunk:

^^Great president in the right place well done go Ukraine :okay::drunk:

well certainly robbing the central bank is not the right way forward...

Current situation on polish roads:

http://www.bankfotek.pl/thumb/307709.jpeg (http://www.bankfotek.pl/image/307716.jpeg)

brown - motorway
orange - express road

inconsecutive line - under construction
consecutive line - done

Lads did a great job, congratulations!

What the f*ck is going on in Ukraine??? Do you guys think they'll actually be able to pull this off or will Poland get the whole tournament? Can anyone living in Europe update?

What the f*ck is going on in Ukraine??? Do you guys think they'll actually be able to pull this off or will Poland get the whole tournament? Can anyone living in Europe update?

Ukraine will be fine...:)

This Ukrainian site is good for Ukrainian news:

http://2012ua.net/

You gotta run it through google translator however, but it's really up to date.

Anyway funnily enough the lead story from today on it is:Euro 2012 - German media: 6 Polish cities, 2 German cities

:eek:

This Ukrainian site is good for Ukrainian news:

http://2012ua.net/

You gotta run it through google translator however, but it's really up to date.

Anyway funnily enough the lead story from today on it is:Euro 2012 - German media: 6 Polish cities, 2 German cities

:eek:

Is this Ukraines official preparations website? Like Poland's http://www.2012.org.pl/ ?

Don't know, I think it's a fan site probably, but updated regularly so quite good.

2012ua.net is non-official web-site. There is no official promo site about preparations in Ukraine. If you want to read news in English check Ukraine 2012 Guide (http://ukraine2012guide.com). It is updated every day.

As for me, don't pay attention to those "German" variants. Anyway Ukraine already has 1 city (Kyiv) approved, though without final game, but still...
The problem is that Europeans mostly receive info from non-Ukrainian medias, which usually don't cover all aspects and provide mostly negative info, because people will read such news more. Also, they are not here and they don't see real changes.

On this topic a lot of friends from Poland is showing what is happaning in my country... We are building a new stadiums, new road... anyway, we are doing everything what we can. But whats going on on Ukraine ??. anything except few stadium, which are constructed or are constructing ???. For Poland, Euro 2012 is the most important things for the next years...

ps. Sorry for my english :),

Euro 2012 is not less important for Ukraine than for Poland. And, yes, Ukraine is also constructing new roads, airports, etc. And progress in construction of stadiums is more noticeable than in Poland.

On this topic a lot of friends from Poland is showing what is happaning in my country... We are building a new stadiums, new road... anyway, we are doing everything what we can. But whats going on on Ukraine ??. anything except few stadium, which are constructed or are constructing ???. For Poland, Euro 2012 is the most important things for the next years...

ps. Sorry for my english :),

Yes, but how many of us is on this forum, and how many Ukrainians who live in Ukraine (not in emigration).

Another issue is, that Poland is in best way to deal with the crisis (growth 1,9% year to year in 1Q - the best in Europe) and Ukraine is completely on another pole (-20%). I am not surprised that some things can not be done in this situation.

Hey there!

2012ua.net (http://2012ua.net) is non-official web-site, but we trying to be best ukrainian-language non-official promo and news web-site :cheers:

If you have some question about 2012ua.net I'll try to answer :banana:

*sorry for my English :(

Hello Guys,

Do you have any idea who are the construction companies that build all this stadius. I am very curios ????

:grouphug:



http://zapodaj.net/images/dbaf7c41b0b8.jpg

^^Gdańsk

Hydrobudowa Polska S.A., Hydrobudowa 9, Alpine Bau Deutschland AG Berlin, Alpine Bau GmbH Austria i Alpine Construction Polska Sp z o.o.

And some photos from warsaw - made by Lary

Kilka fotek z platformy. Widok jest naprawdę niesamowity.:)

http://images44.fotosik.pl/176/c60fb04153b9449fm.jpg (http://www.fotosik.pl/showFullSize.php?id=c60fb04153b9449f)

http://images44.fotosik.pl/176/7b1f65719c442cc7m.jpg (http://www.fotosik.pl/showFullSize.php?id=7b1f65719c442cc7)

http://images43.fotosik.pl/175/55ee1ccec1253e2bm.jpg (http://www.fotosik.pl/showFullSize.php?id=55ee1ccec1253e2b)

http://images45.fotosik.pl/176/c0749da4b1b40cfem.jpg (http://www.fotosik.pl/showFullSize.php?id=c0749da4b1b40cfe)

http://images43.fotosik.pl/175/78e198ca9fc22e4am.jpg (http://www.fotosik.pl/showFullSize.php?id=78e198ca9fc22e4a)

http://images38.fotosik.pl/171/8a5279d5b5c62398m.jpg (http://www.fotosik.pl/showFullSize.php?id=8a5279d5b5c62398)

Final will most likely take place in Warsaw according to the Ukrainian side. This is related to the recent decision regrading the International Broadcasting Center being located in Warsaw and not in Kiev, as originally speculated. According to Kommiersant-Ukraina, the IBC is always located where the final match will take place.

http://www.tvn24.pl/0,1613640,0,1,ukraina-final-euro-2012-w-warszawie,wiadomosc.html

OK, now Warsaw should increase the capacity ;)

55.000 is pretty lame for a final...

OK, now Warsaw should increase the capacity ;)

55.000 is pretty lame for a final...

The stadium in Vienna had a capacity of around 53,000 for the 2008 final. It's big enough.

I'd love it if Warsaw had a bigger capacity but like the above noted, 55k is decent, with a closed roof the atmosphere should be rockin.

I think we shouldn`t speculate here about Ukraine, I`m sure E2012 will take place in Poland and Ukraine, but it would be fine if final takes place in Warsaw.

Let`s wait for december or ofiicial UEFA`s attitude.

UEFA has not yet decided on a place of broadcasting center of EURO 2012 (http://ukraine2012guide.com/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=60%3Auefa-has-not-yet-decided-on-a-place-of-broadcasting-center-of-euro-2012&lang=en)

UEFA has not yet taken a final decision on the location of the International Broadcasting Center of European Football Championship 2012 stated the chairman of the organizing committee of Euro-2012 in Ukraine Ivan Fedorenko.

So there is no need to increase the capacity of Warsaw stadium. ;)

So there is no need to increase the capacity of Warsaw stadium. ;)

What`s the capacity of Kiev stadium ?

It will be 69 423 after reconstruction.

Warsaw by Polex:

http://i26.tinypic.com/xn7z80.jpg
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/5576/77438501.jpg

http://i26.tinypic.com/1fvm12.jpg
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/1116/33242945.jpg

WOW


Awesome pano!!!:)

Oh, again senseless gossips! :ohno: What is this all about?! What for does mostly every Pole try to reproach Ukraine of its incapability to invest in preparation works?!
At least thanks for good news and updates from Poland..!

Polish stadiums

Gdańsk
http://kamery.2012.org.pl/images/gdansk_aktualny_1024.jpg?random=0.0

Wrocław
http://kamery.2012.org.pl/images/wroclaw_aktualny_1024.jpg?random=0.0

Warszawa
http://kamery.2012.org.pl/images/warszawa_aktualny_1024.jpg?random=0.0

Poznań
http://kamery.2012.org.pl/images/poznan_aktualny_1024.jpg?random=0.0

Gdańsk has the fastest and the most visible progress of all :) :cheers2:

Oh, again senseless gossips! :ohno: What is this all about?! What for does mostly every Pole try to reproach Ukraine of its incapability to invest in preparation works?!
At least thanks for good news and updates from Poland..!
By "mostly every Pole" you meant 0,1% of Polish users? ;)

Polish stadiums




Should have posted this picture dude
Poznan
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/6108/poznan2aktualny1024.jpg

Poznan already looks impressive, especially those assemblies which will carry the roof, they look huge!! :cheers:

It will be 69 423 after reconstruction.

Huge :cheers:

yes im still a bit bitter Warsaw is not at least 60 000...Im sure it could be if they got rid of some VIP boxes and business seats.

I guess Kyiv has a stadium a bit bigger because it is also a much larger city than Warsaw.

Baltic Arena looks really nice :banana:

yes im still a bit bitter Warsaw is not at least 60 000...Im sure it could be if they got rid of some VIP boxes and business seats.

Those are much more essential than capacity in the greater scheme of things.

Oh, again senseless gossips! :ohno: What is this all about?! What for does mostly every Pole try to reproach Ukraine of its incapability to invest in preparation works?!
At least thanks for good news and updates from Poland..!

It ain't gossip dude, Platini in a news conference today confirmed all that!:

Platini threatens Ukraine hosts European Championship
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.spox.com/de/sport/fussball/international/0908/News/uefa-praesident-michel-platini-droht-europameisterschaft-2012-gastgeber-ukraine.html&ei=xlR_SpX2A8PRjAeqp8TwAQ&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=4&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dukraine%2B2012%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26client%3Dsafari%26rls%3Den-us%26tbo%3D1%26tbs%3Dqdr:d

Ukraine may lose Euro
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=http://www.sport.fr/football/foo/Euro-2012-L-Ukraine-peut-perdre-l-Euro-163070.shtm&ei=2ld_Sov_A8aMjAez_LzwAQ&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=5&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dukraine%2B2012%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26client%3Dsafari%26rls%3Den-us%26tbo%3D1%26tbs%3Dqdr:d

Oh, again senseless gossips! :ohno: What is this all about?! What for does mostly every Pole try to reproach Ukraine of its incapability to invest in preparation works?!
At least thanks for good news and updates from Poland..!

The disparaging Polish media and her faithful following have left Poland well alone and now need to direct their vehement toxicity towards a fresh wound. Do forgive their transgressions and please baptize us victimless souls of their sins. :hi:

Err, it's the German media (well obviously given Berlin/Liepzig possibility), and the French media who break these stories.

But you know, that's what media do, they look for stories and stories are generated by conflict and issues.

The thunder and deluge were initially cast upon us by the Polish media frantically informing us how and when we would fail to realize our aspirations and ambitions to host the tournament.

Has amnesia now overwhelmed the Polish psyche that those days of not so distant past are now concealed in a new predisposition of a once inferior complex now turned to pseudo-superiority?

Maybe I am blind to the truth, though I find it hard to let local media from Poland or Ukraine sway my mind when such cynicism is prevalent and the final verdict is built upon a foundation of journalistic pessimism.

Just one example.

Kiev has 3 ***** hotels 3 **** hotels 2 *** hotels

http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotels-g294474-zfc5-Kiev-Hotels.html

Warsaw has 7 ***** hotels 7 **** hotels 10 *** hotels

http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotels-g274856-zfc5-Warsaw_Central_Poland-Hotels.html

Berlin (last WC final) has 22 ***** hotels 89 **** hotels 93 *** hotels

http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotels-g187323-zfc5-Berlin-Hotels.html

Vienna (last EC final) has 15 ***** hotels 77 **** hotels 59 *** hotels

http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotels-g190454-zfc5-Vienna-Hotels.html

So there is still much work to do for Kiev and Warsaw....

BTW the hotel prices in Kiev are a joke. Way too expensive...

Ludicrous comparisons – several decades away.

according to this site http://hotelewwarszawie.ewarszawa.com/szukaj in Warsaw there are 10 *****, 7 **** and 18 ***. But that's still miles behind western capitals, indeed.

Just one example.

Kiev has 3 ***** hotels 3 **** hotels 2 *** hotels




It looks absurdly, so I made fast research and found following related to hotels in Kyiv (later will try to update it):

5-stars:
1) Opera Hotel
2) Premier Palace
3) Hyatt

not sure 5 or 4 (contradictory sources)

- Pharaoh

4 stars:
1) Radisson SAS
2) Dnipro
3) Podil Plaza
4) Diarso
5) Visak
6) Kyivskiy
7) Natsionalny
8) Pallada-2002
9) Perlyna Dnipra
10) Riviera
11) Dniprovskiy

3 stars (list is incomplete):
1) Domus
2) Adria
3) Bratislava
4) Vozdvizhenkiy
5) Djintama
6) Druzhba
7) Express
8) Impressa
9) Kyiv
10) Kozatsky
11) Lybid
12) Myr
13) Oberih
14) Rus
15) Saylut
16) Slavutych
17) Sport
18) Turyst
19) Ukrayina
20) Khreshchatyk
21) All Plus Together
22) Borysfen


In construction or are planned (list is incomplete):
5 stars:
1) Zoloti kupoly
2) Hilton
3) Sofitel
4) Regent

4 stars:
1) Holiday Inn
2) Star
3) Novotel

+Lots of 3-stars hotels.:)

Totally absurd numbers of Kyiv hotel quantity indeed! 2*** hotels for all the city, ha?! :nuts: Thanks DiVo for clearing those senseless rumors again!

Warsaw has 11 ***** hotels, 17 **** hotels and 20 *** hotels.

http://www.trivago.pl/warszawa-86484/hotel/5-ilosc-gwiazdek/category=5#price_region:%22viewtype=2&maxprice=0&searchtype=1&offset=0&pagetype=hotels&path=86484&includeAll=0&geocode_address=false&q=&region_order=overall_liking&longitude=21.011667&latitude=52.229721&use_distance=1&distanceLimit=20000&from_day=15&from_month=8&from_year=2009&to_day=16&to_month=8&to_year=2009&from_date=1250287200&to_date=1250373600&category=4&hotel_room_type=7&initialsearchtype=0&changed=0&stars=4&attraction=distance%22

Warsaw has 11 ***** hotels, 17 **** hotels and 20 *** hotels.

http://www.trivago.pl/warszawa-86484/hotel/5-ilosc-gwiazdek/category=5#price_region:%22viewtype=2&maxprice=0&searchtype=1&offset=0&pagetype=hotels&path=86484&includeAll=0&geocode_address=false&q=&region_order=overall_liking&longitude=21.011667&latitude=52.229721&use_distance=1&distanceLimit=20000&from_day=15&from_month=8&from_year=2009&to_day=16&to_month=8&to_year=2009&from_date=1250287200&to_date=1250373600&category=4&hotel_room_type=7&initialsearchtype=0&changed=0&stars=4&attraction=distance%22


Hey, watch the swearing there, the hotels aren't that bad:P

In addition to the topic of hotels in Kyiv: New 5-star hotel will be opened in Kyiv (http://ukraine2012guide.com/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=78%3Anew-5-star-hotel-will-be-opened-in-kyiv&lang=en)

Hey, watch the swearing there, the hotels aren't that bad:P

:lol:

Ot takie tam z wiślanym urokiem. :)
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/313/dsc123902s.jpg (http://img25.imageshack.us/i/dsc123902s.jpg/)

^^National stadium from the Wisla river

Metallist-Arena, Kharkiv

http://www.ua-football.com/images/gallery/1/1/003.jpg
http://www.ua-football.com/images/gallery/1/1/008.jpg
http://www.ua-football.com/images/gallery/2/2/012.jpg
http://www.ua-football.com/images/gallery/2/2/017.jpg
http://www.ua-football.com/images/gallery/2/2/018.jpg
http://www.ua-football.com/images/gallery/2/2/021.jpg

Donbass-Arena - Opening in few days
http://shakhtar.com/data/imgdata/foto/news/25430__full_news.jpg
http://shakhtar.com/data/imgdata/foto/news/25384__full_news.jpg

Gdańsk by elpolako:

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/581/65340664.jpg

http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/2356/84495124.jpg

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/5200/43461587.jpg

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/5511/42438380.jpg

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/739/27548356.jpg

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/5794/50758684.jpg

http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/2466/29668442.jpg

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/448/43351676.jpg

http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/3978/92596941.jpg

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/1404/74372740.jpg

http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/5997/43072395.jpg

http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/5482/75486760.jpg

http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/8914/28254822.jpg

Wrocław by kobra102:

http://i30.tinypic.com/30wwozq.jpg

http://i29.tinypic.com/2lv09qf.jpg

http://i30.tinypic.com/zm1bbt.jpg

http://i29.tinypic.com/2larev6.jpg

http://i27.tinypic.com/2pph1yw.jpg

Only updates from Poznan, Kyiv and Lviv are still missing! Thanks for such nice update, guys, good to see such progress from both sides!! :cheers:

poznan -> http://budowa.maroonpoint.com/
http://kkslech.com/13.08.2009budowa.php

Nowe fotki:
http://www.kkslech.com/budowastadionu/13.08.2009budowa/5.JPG
http://www.kkslech.com/budowastadionu/13.08.2009budowa/16.JPG
http://www.kkslech.com/budowastadionu/13.08.2009budowa/9.JPG

The progress on Poznan stadium is more than visible! It seems new tribunes have already reached their final height!! Only roof installation works are still ahead! :cheers:
Can't wait to see Kyiv and Lviv's construction temps!

Today was open new part of A4 highway from Polish-German border to Krzyżowa (51,4 km) :cheers:

How many kilometers of A-series highways do we now have in Poland?

^^ 817,7 km in exist and 330,2 km under construction.

Current map

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/6937/istniejacewbudowie.png

881 km of A standard motorways and 324 km of 2x2 S standard expressways. :cheers:

History of motorway building in Poland - amount of km of roads in use (by bebe.2006)


Miesiąc A 2x2 S 2x2 S 1x2 Ogółem 2x2 Ogółem
________________________________________________________________________________

01-2000 284 136 77 420 497

01-2001 374 136 77 510 587

01-2002 412 136 77 548 625

01-2003 418 136 80 554 634

01-2004 486 151 85 637 722

01-2005 536 155 85 691 776

01-2006 570 175 100 745 845
05-2006 570 175 100 745 845
09-2006 674 178 112 852 964

01-2007 741 203 133 944 1077
05-2007 741 203 133 944 1077
09-2007 741 203 133 944 1077

01-2008 765 233 150 998 1148
05-2008 765 245 159 1010 1169
09-2008 765 265 160 1030 1190

01-2009 831 288 228 1119 1347
05-2009 831 288 228 1119 1347

aktualnie 881 324 228 1205 1433

881 km of A standard motorways

But A18 don't have A-status. It's marked as DK (droga krajowa=national road). So officially Poland has 817,7 km of highways/motorways.

Isn't it A-standard anyway? What's the differance besides marking then?

Pathetic. Even African countries have probably better roads.

This is how it should look like as soon as possible.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2663/3819704089_91023348cc.jpg

I know it's no longer a reserve venue but is the redev of Chorzow stadium still going ahead?

Btw, Bono and U2 has approved the Euro 2012 prep;) whilst at the Chorzow Stadium last week, direct quote after playing 'New Years Days' (which is about Poland):

'Something going on here. There's something going on in this country. You can feel it the last time we were here now it's here even stronger, this country is going somewhere very special, a special spirit. What is it? Is the Irish-Polish connection? is it stubborness? is it faith? Faith in the future, that the future can be better than the past and for many, not for the few. Europe needs more countries like Poland.'

;) Okay maybe he wasn't talking about Euro 2012, but it's still a nice quote!:)
:cheers:

Stadium looks pretty good here btw, BIG:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ITUbfXAkLc&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjlvhNKMqpc

I know it's no longer a reserve venue but is the redev of Chorzow stadium still going ahead?


Yes. Construction starts in November.

Sweet, I reckon that will be a wicked looking stadium when finished.

Pathetic. Even African countries have probably better roads.
Then write rather in African threads than in this one. ;)

Warsaw National Stadium by zbieraj

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/3139/84544125.jpg

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/1107/51750999.jpg

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/3835/38345885.jpg

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/6344/96337742.jpg

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/4695/89052533.jpg

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/3999/19326266.jpg

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/8905/46246890.jpg

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/9941/66688380.jpg

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/2038/13320731.jpg

And more photos from Warsaw:

To i ja daję pierwszy rzut... :)
http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/6449/img3399q.jpg

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/5498/img3400m.jpg

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/7316/img3398r.jpg

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/3669/img3401osr.jpg

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http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/3806/img3512imf.jpg

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/3589/img3521j.jpg

Wroclaw

http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss282/migdaloss/IMGP4356.jpg
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http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss282/migdaloss/IMGP4416.jpg
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss282/migdaloss/IMGP4418.jpg
http://i584.photobucket.com/albums/ss282/migdaloss/IMGP4419.jpg


http://2012.wroc.pl/galerie/4a83cf5b/4a83d0cd.jpg

http://2012.wroc.pl/galerie/4a83cf5b/4a83d0e1.jpg

http://2012.wroc.pl/galerie/4a83cf5b/4a83d0f5.jpg

http://2012.wroc.pl/galerie/4a83cf5b/4a83d10a.jpg

http://2012.wroc.pl/galerie/4a83cf5b/4a83d122.jpg

http://2012.wroc.pl/galerie/4a83cf5b/4a83d137.jpg

Pathetic. Even African countries have probably better roads.

This is how it should look like as soon as possible.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2663/3819704089_91023348cc.jpg

Stop bitching!!!!!!!!
My father just came back from Poland and said the roads are better than the shitty pot holed roads in Toronto!
Have some goddam faith in Poland. It's a great country!!!!!!!!
And the Bono quote is great! Love U2. THey love Poland. Everyone else should too.

Stop bitching!!!!!!!!
My father just came back from Poland and said the roads are better than the shitty pot holed roads in Toronto!
Have some goddam faith in Poland. It's a great country!!!!!!!!
And the Bono quote is great! Love U2. THey love Poland. Everyone else should too.

No i will not stop bitching. I will defend Poland where it makes sense, for example here

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=934312
or here
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=41315770#post41315770

but the road (car accident) situation in Poland is a joke and deserves criticizm. In Croatia there was a war 10yrs ago and they managed to build about 1500km motorways..... Poland is a flat country without dense population in the countryside and it should be really no problem to build 1000-2000km motorways in (the last) 20yrs.

You know, if something similar as on the map shown by markus1234 would someday be realized, then Poland will become a high-class European motorway country and since then won't be counted as an Eastern European (in sense of development) country!! That Poland will have a status of a progressive and perspective European republic! :cheers:

It is not unrealistic. Here you have how will be look polish network of highways and expresways

http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff237/masakla/istniejacewbudowie.png

del

but the road (car accident) situation in Poland is a joke and deserves criticizm. In Croatia there was a war 10yrs ago and they managed to build about 1500km motorways..... Poland is a flat country without dense population in the countryside and it should be really no problem to build 1000-2000km motorways in (the last) 20yrs.

Situation in other european countries was similar some years ago (kills per capita) Dont compare big country to small one (in european terms) it is way easier to manage small country than big one. Best to compare PL with Spain I guess.

Krakow Balice airport Car park and Train station

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/6748/img1408n.jpg
http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/2796/img1407k.jpg

byłem dzisiaj 13.08.2009
z drogi na cargo średnio widać oni mają swoją taką tymczasówkę jakieś 200 m
szutrem z niej widać kontenery socjalne i sanitarne

http://images48.fotosik.pl/181/0f61e2f1115b4b45.jpg

kawałek dalej zaczeli budować fachowy dojazd tymczasowy

http://images39.fotosik.pl/177/2ecdddd0939a6ff6.jpg

jakieś 200 m dalej są kolejne kontenery i górka piasku na której pracuje koparka ze zdjęcia z gazety
http://images46.fotosik.pl/180/efa4c3d7b671aecf.jpg


^^Start of construction of new terminal in Wrocław

Fresh pics from Wroclaw


http://i32.tinypic.com/9azrec.jpg

http://i32.tinypic.com/oa59bk.jpg

http://i25.tinypic.com/2ptxtog.jpg

http://i25.tinypic.com/1412hrs.jpg

http://i28.tinypic.com/33kdqhc.jpg

^^ :drool:

Construction of A8 motorway bypass increases the impression
few pics more:

http://www.e2012.eu/admin/inc/image.php?pid=1484&tid=1&location=self

http://www.e2012.eu/admin/inc/image.php?pid=1492&tid=1&location=self

http://www.e2012.eu/admin/inc/image.php?pid=1489&tid=1&location=self

http://www.e2012.eu/admin/inc/image.php?pid=1487&tid=1&location=self

Beautiful pics, nothing to say! Great to see how Wroclaw take shapes with such massive motorway and stadium itself constructions!

Is the Wroclaw stadium going to be in the middle of the countryside like that? Looks like they are building a huge highway and stadium in the middle of a village.
Maybe it's the photos that give me the wrong illusion by not showing me the whole context :dunno:

^^
http://slaskwroclaw.info/_img/euro_2012-stadion_mapa_wroclawia.jpg

I had such impression also cos it looks as if it will be located somewhere at the outskirts of city but it appears to be not that far from the city centre and is still in city's borders. Truly to say, I believe after the construction will be done, that area will become one of the most recognizable places in Wroclaw and probably a really perspective as well!

These really are outskirts of the city, the quite large area on the left is a small town (Leśnica, annexed in 1928) and mainly woodland/fields. The city itself ends more or less where the stadium is getting build.

Oh, really, that one's already Leśnica? I've been there but haven't seen the stadium construction anywhere close.. If the stadium will be located there than, must agree, it's totally out of city borders.. Not so near as well..

Donets stadium in all of its beuty. The opening ceremony will be on August 29th and will feature a grand show including singer Beyonce Knowles.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2505/3828867053_699b798670_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2513/3825486935_819a425e6d_b.jpg

Wow.

awesome :cheers:

:applause:

what a masterpiece of a stadium

glassy like an office building.

Lviv:



http://lh5.ggpht.com/_S09U1BnLJWo/SoXLx1UAmLI/AAAAAAAACKc/osj_AbZlYoA/s800/IMG_7479.JPG

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_S09U1BnLJWo/SoXL9kTSb4I/AAAAAAAACKg/7RRbZrzWty0/s800/IMG_7484.JPG

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_S09U1BnLJWo/SoXMIPqLLAI/AAAAAAAACKs/i1p1N9C7ZV0/s800/IMG_7490.JPG

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_S09U1BnLJWo/SoXMKuaIZEI/AAAAAAAACKw/Jpgr8I_NMDI/s800/IMG_7493.JPG

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_S09U1BnLJWo/SoXMga3khxI/AAAAAAAACLA/AYZ6rZANjCw/s800/IMG_7512.JPG

Привезли нову техніку, невиключено що з аеропорту
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_S09U1BnLJWo/SoXMnD2XL2I/AAAAAAAACLE/CSdT_p2-Uas/s800/IMG_7520.JPG

Kyiv:

http://pressing.net.ua/pressing/UserFiles/Image/001/11.08.09/01.jpg
http://pressing.net.ua/pressing/UserFiles/Image/001/11.08.09/02.jpg
http://pressing.net.ua/pressing/UserFiles/Image/001/11.08.09/03.jpg
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http://pressing.net.ua/pressing/UserFiles/Image/001/11.08.09/04a.jpg
http://pressing.net.ua/pressing/UserFiles/Image/001/11.08.09/05.jpg
http://pressing.net.ua/pressing/UserFiles/Image/001/11.08.09/06.jpg
http://pressing.net.ua/pressing/UserFiles/Image/001/11.08.09/07.jpg
http://pressing.net.ua/pressing/UserFiles/Image/001/11.08.09/08.jpg
http://pressing.net.ua/pressing/UserFiles/Image/001/11.08.09/09.jpg
http://pressing.net.ua/pressing/UserFiles/Image/001/11.08.09/10.jpg
http://pressing.net.ua/pressing/UserFiles/Image/001/11.08.09/11.jpg
http://pressing.net.ua/pressing/UserFiles/Image/001/11.08.09/12.jpg
http://pressing.net.ua/pressing/UserFiles/Image/001/11.08.09/13.jpg
http://pressing.net.ua/pressing/UserFiles/Image/001/11.08.09/14.jpg
http://pressing.net.ua/pressing/UserFiles/Image/001/11.08.09/15.jpg
http://pressing.net.ua/pressing/UserFiles/Image/001/11.08.09/16.jpg
http://pressing.net.ua/pressing/UserFiles/Image/001/11.08.09/17.jpg
http://pressing.net.ua/pressing/UserFiles/Image/001/11.08.09/18.jpg
http://pressing.net.ua/pressing/UserFiles/Image/001/11.08.09/19.jpg
http://pressing.net.ua/pressing/UserFiles/Image/001/11.08.09/20.jpg
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http://pressing.net.ua/pressing/UserFiles/Image/001/11.08.09/22.jpg
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http://pressing.net.ua/pressing/UserFiles/Image/001/11.08.09/25.jpg
http://pressing.net.ua/pressing/UserFiles/Image/001/11.08.09/26.jpg
http://pressing.net.ua/pressing/UserFiles/Image/001/11.08.09/27.jpg

Alright!! What a progress! Who could think things are not going so bad at all in Ukraine!? It's a pleasure to see such updates! Thanks! :banana:
Donetsk stadium - just the best of all, especially if regarding Eastern Europe! :cheers:

Donetsk stadium - just the best of all, especially if regarding Eastern Europe! :cheers:

Maybe in Eastern Europe, cause if it's about Central Europe as well our National Stadium will be better (bigger and with closed roof option).

Donetsk stadium is spectacular! :applause:

Maybe in Eastern Europe, cause if it's about Central Europe as well our National Stadium will be better (bigger and with closed roof option).

We talk about the present, not future, besides, it's not pleasantly to overpraise so much.

We talk about the present, not future, besides, it's not pleasantly to overpraise so much.

We talk about the present and future. I can not see anything wrong in praising my country. It's just fantastic :banana:

Maybe in Eastern Europe, cause if it's about Central Europe as well our National Stadium will be better (bigger and with closed roof option).

- Maybe we can compare photos once your bigger and better stadium is actually built? :)

Maybe in Eastern Europe, cause if it's about Central Europe as well our National Stadium will be better (bigger and with closed roof option).

Don't like football stadiums with closed roofs. Football is an outdoor sport!

- Maybe we can compare photos once your bigger and better stadium is actually built? :)

that would be an idea ;)

I hope that Donbass Arena will be a good argument for UEFA at December meeting.

Video: Donbass Arena. 11 days until opening. (http://ukraine2012guide.com/index.php?option=com_jmultimedia&layout=default&view=media&id=10&Itemid=65&lang=en)

Railways:

E-30 Zgorzelec - Wrocław

http://i730.photobucket.com/albums/ww304/Pedziorro/IMG_2579.jpg

http://i730.photobucket.com/albums/ww304/Pedziorro/IMG_2580.jpg

http://i730.photobucket.com/albums/ww304/Pedziorro/IMG_2621.jpg

http://i730.photobucket.com/albums/ww304/Pedziorro/IMG_2623.jpg

http://i730.photobucket.com/albums/ww304/Pedziorro/IMG_2645.jpg

E-65 Gdynia - Gdańsk - Warszawa

http://i27.tinypic.com/29e6ukl.jpg

http://i28.tinypic.com/ml2rrq.jpg

http://i31.tinypic.com/2qulwzq.jpg

http://i27.tinypic.com/n2fuoj.jpg

http://i31.tinypic.com/nojb52.jpg

E-59 Poznań - Wrocław

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/5628/zdjcie030t.jpg

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/6849/zdjcie032u.jpg

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/2192/zdjcie038mrn.jpg

Is the Wroclaw stadium going to be in the middle of the countryside like that? Looks like they are building a huge highway and stadium in the middle of a village.
Maybe it's the photos that give me the wrong illusion by not showing me the whole context :dunno:

Outskirts, just close A8 Highway (Highway Wroclaw Bypass). Near city center there are stadiums in Warsaw and Poznań. Wroclaw and Gdansk - outskirts rather.

- Maybe we can compare photos once your bigger and better stadium is actually built? :)

Well, we are talking about EURO preparations. Our stadium will be ready in 2011 just when it needs to be. We have money to finish it, tender is already over, contract signed and we know the project so we know exactly how our stadium will be.

Warsawbynight, but anyway for two years you just have to accept the fact that Donbass Arena will be the best stadium in Eastern and Central Europe as well! ;) Who knows, maybe such status will remain at Donetsk stadium even after 2 years time! :)

Who knows, maybe such status will remain at Donetsk stadium even after 2 years time! :)

Don't worry, it won't :)

Don't worry, it won't :)

it will be gazprom arena :lol:

To my mind Donetsk`s stadium`s in outside is like glassy glow-worm, I don`t see there something special, many stadiums in Europe have more attractive facade, but of course due to own magnitude it makes really good impression and now it`s the best stadium in Eastern Europe. Also interior is for me totally unusual, in this respect one of the best in world.

Donetsk is a fantastic stadium, brand new and a lot of money has gone into it, they don't make em that good in France or Germany, very nice surrounds as well. I guess the problem for Donetsk is going to be the surrounding infrastructure, the hotel situation is apparently catastrophic according to Ukrainian news, only 10% are up to grade, so it's a bizarre imbalance, fantastic stadium without the great infrastructure, guess we'll see what happens.

Night lighting looks great btw.

Donetsk city Mayor recently said such:

...We have offered a project of placement, in which five-star hotels have deficit of 578 rooms, but it will be overlapped with the hotels of lower level (4 and 3 stars). Such proposals were prepared, and today will be discussed with the Director-General Euro-2012 Martin Kallen"- said the mayor.

"Previously, I met him in late May and asked for lower hotel requirements for Donetsk as it is the industrial center, not a tourist center. So that after Euro-2012 it would be possible to operate hotels and to use them for business",- added O. Lukyanchenko.

Actually he's completely right! There no sense in building five-star hotels in the heart of industrial and coal mining area! Better construct some affordable maximum four-star hotels and dozens of cheap three-star hotels so that to attract a big quantity of tourists! :cheers:

Well, we are talking about EURO preparations. Our stadium will be ready in 2011 just when it needs to be. We have money to finish it, tender is already over, contract signed and we know the project so we know exactly how our stadium will be.

Yeah, nowhere near as magnificent as Donetsk’s, but that is just a humble opinion of mine.

[A1] Pyrzowice (Silesia) - Gorzyczki (Czech border)

http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/22850685.jpg

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/6372/imgp1057v.jpg

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/2406/imgp1051.jpg

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/7159/imgp1050skm.jpg

http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/8486/obraz014ozn.jpg

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/6569/obraz030z.jpg

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/5199/obraz054q.jpg

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/3414/obraz061j.jpg

http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/5909/obraz104z.jpg

[A1] Grudziądz - Toruń

http://www.sawistowski.net/prywatnie/a1/1508/most1.jpg

http://i26.tinypic.com/jh3ng5.jpg

http://i31.tinypic.com/2q07ihl.jpg

http://i29.tinypic.com/f4qzht.jpg

http://i32.tinypic.com/2cymuyu.jpg

http://i31.tinypic.com/2z7iste.jpg

and finally A4 Zgorzelec - Krzyżowa opened week ago:

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/3300/imgp4294.jpg

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/5323/imgp4296j.jpg

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/3982/imgp4297.jpg

http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/669/imgp4299.jpg

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/9306/imgp4301.jpg

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/6504/imgp4304.jpg

http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/5064/imgp4311l.jpg

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/9141/imgp4317z.jpg

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/3272/imgp4326.jpg

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/2746/imgp4330.jpg

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/548/imgp4351.jpg

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/3183/imgp4359.jpg

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/4445/imgp4361c.jpg

Stadiums in Poland 20.08.2009

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/5296/warszawaaktualny1024.jpg

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/1563/gdanskaktualny1024.jpg

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/2450/poznanaktualny1024.jpg

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/6108/poznan2aktualny1024.jpg

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/3786/wroclawaktualny1024.jpg

Love that newly opened freeway, and Wroclaw stadium is starting to rise as well!:) Two posts chock a block full of good stuff:)

Ah, forgot about the most important,
106 km of [A2] Świecko (German border) - Nowy Tomyśl:

http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv28/ruso1983/P8200045.jpg

http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv28/ruso1983/P8200050.jpg

http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv28/ruso1983/P8200051.jpg

http://i574.photobucket.com/albums/ss181/ruso1980/P8200029.jpg

http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv28/ruso1983/P8200056.jpg

http://i666.photobucket.com/albums/vv28/ruso1983/P8200060.jpg

And some info from polish economy: In July Construction and Assembly Production rise 10,7% y/y. And this is in crisis time :) Euro2012 works perfectly. :cheers:

Gdańsk:

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/7376/beznazwy1uqm.jpg

http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/1952/beznazwy2s.jpg

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/3382/beznazwy3m.jpg

National Stadium in Warsaw (21.08.2009):

HK-uDfsuM_U
recommended to open in new window in HQ

That's something mad going on in Poland! :) Such amazing quantity of motorway construction! Just wow! This country is so rising! :banana:

"Something mad" - nice statement :)

Panorama by Polex

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/1470/1canon09.jpg

Wow, even Spider Transformer help constructing Warsaw NS! :D (but indeed that yellow truck is bionicle-looking :)) Anyway, thanks for such superb quality shot!!

Rakim - fantastic photo-coverage! Thanks :)

Wrocław have really nice situation

Stadium u/c and motorway also u/c next to it :D

Wrocław have really nice situation

Stadium u/c and motorway also u/c next to it :D

Airport terminal U/C

fast tram extension to the stadium soon to be U/C

stadium shopping mall soon to be U/C

etc :)

Small update from Poznan:

Truss elements on the pitch:
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/1592/img5762f.jpg
Parts of the Southern Truss:
http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/145/img5738v.jpg

this is how the truss will look like:
http://images46.fotosik.pl/184/386ea5db581649b3.jpg

^ Not bad!! And it seems only Poznan Stadium will have an option of occluding roof, all the rest will have a pitch under the open sky, right?

As far as I know, only new National Stadium (Stadion Narodowy) in Warsaw will have fully retractable roof. Lech's roof will remain open, but all seats will be indeed under cover.

^ Not bad!! And it seems only Poznan Stadium will have an option of occluding roof, all the rest will have a pitch under the open sky, right?

Poznan will be probably the "ugliest" stadium but the atmosphere inside should be the best.

As for me, I like its appearance, the exterior reminds the surface of a golf ball! :)

Poznan Municipal Stadium was the only stadium in Poland NOT designed especially for the EURO1012 (from those that will host the games)
It was designed before we won Euro, and was u/c when we won it.
Sadly, it was redesigned once Poznan was announced a host city and now we have a 'mushroom'

Wroclaw 28.08.2009:

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Warsaw 28.08.2009

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Donbass Arena - opening tomorrow

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http://shakhtar.com/data/imgdata/galeries/914/26696__max_gal.jpg

But Donbass Arena its reserve stadium.

But they have dispersed chopaki. I would like to see it before else euro as they play if (or) stadia are and they will be as (serve). It on la.

@ Singidunum: I hope they will take out the grass pitch for today's opening. Otherwise it will get ruined!

Plus one more stadium ready in Ukraine since today! :banana: Just two more left! Pity that the problem with all other infrastructure is not yet resolved, especially in the same Donetsk..! But let's hope that today's opening will be a big punch forwards for UA government to start total investitions in country's preparation works! :cheers:

3 more left, becouse Dnipropetrovsk is out of the game right now.

3 more left, becouse Dnipropetrovsk is out of the game right now.

Its not sure for 100% Btw in January Kharkiv Metalist stadium is going to be ready

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0adD0sA7MR85j/610x.jpg

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^^ The stadium looks great!!!

Holy madness!!! That is absolutely amazing stadium and probably will stay the best in Eastern Europe, I just can't imagine any Polish stadium to look sooo massive and outstanding!! :banana: Btw, superb opening ceremony!! :)

My favourite Ukraine arena for 2012 :)

Ukrainian stadiums - state of the progress:

DNIPROPETROVSK - 100%
http://uaeuro2012.com/images/dnepropetrovsk.png

DONETSK - 100%
http://xmages.net/out.php/i329457_stadmini.png

KHARKIV - 90%
http://uaeuro2012.com/images/harkov.png

KYIV - 15%
http://uaeuro2012.com/images/olimpiysky.png

ODESSA - 15%
http://uaeuro2012.com/images/odesa.png

LVIV - 10%
http://uaeuro2012.com/images/lvov.png

From www.uaeuro2012.com (http://uaeuro2012.com/)

Holy madness!!! That is absolutely amazing stadium and probably will stay the best in Eastern Europe, I just can't imagine any Polish stadium to look sooo massive and outstanding!! :banana: Btw, superb opening ceremony!! :)

Wait for our stadiums :) You will be in shock :)

Openning Donbass Arena - VIDEO

http://2012ua.net/blog/2009-08-30-280

Holy madness!!! That is absolutely amazing stadium and probably will stay the best in Eastern Europe, I just can't imagine any Polish stadium to look sooo massive and outstanding!! :banana: Btw, superb opening ceremony!! :)

Just wait for our National Stadium in Warsaw :) In Eastern Europe Gazprom Arena will compete with Donbas Arena.

Anyway, as it was told before, currently Donetsk is the best stadium (in terms of appearance and innovations used) not only in Eastern, but also in Central Europe!! :banana:

also the best of eastern, central, south , north europe in it's class. Donieck stadium is indeed beautifull and impressing but dude, we should change our own record:)

Congratulations, great stadium and I wish all the best for Donetsk and other Ukraininan cities. A city that is capable of building something like this is DEFINITELY capable of making everything else work!:)

By the way, I heard that Ukraine has some really nice train stations that look like museums. Is that true, how is Ukrainian train travel? I believe that Ukraine should look into the mode of transportation that it has best and focus all the improvement on that and then advertise to the fans about using gthis-safe mode of transportation.

As for which stadium will be the best, well Donetsk will definitely be the best Euro2012 stadium for at least another 1.5 years. After that we will see the result and judge. However, judgement is relative according to every individual's taste. Personally from visualisations to me the Baltic Arena looks best, but all the Euro 2012 stadiums look incredible!:)

Donbas Arena is the most beautiful stadium in the world! Congratulations brothers!:cheers:

Ismat Chan, you are just so right! I do agree with you! :D
But anyway in 2012 or even earlier when we'll see all the stadiums built, only then we might judge them, but not before because it's not the same in reality as it looks in some visualizations!

Amazing stadium, I am very impressed!

Warszawa:

(click on picture to get bigger size)
http://i32.tinypic.com/2hmphqe.jpg (http://img2.imageshack.us/img2/6484/pano5.jpg)

http://i26.tinypic.com/2dbpjxe.jpg (http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/3977/pano4.jpg)