3rd truss in Poznan gest to it's position

mBjEoD4sso8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBjEoD4sso8

When are they going to start building the roof for Poznan stadium?

They are currently doing it :) You probably mean, when they start putting on membrane.

Few hotels in Donetsk U/C:

Green Plaza 93 m, opening 2010:

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk215/orland_bucket/2009-09-23/DSC01250.jpg
http://s41.radikal.ru/i091/0909/88/e52807dd703a.jpg
http://s52.radikal.ru/i138/0909/3e/3a41d9675d97.jpg
http://s42.radikal.ru/i095/0909/76/200a33cc8714.jpg
http://s40.radikal.ru/i090/0909/28/403086514b1b.jpg

Victoria, second phase, 21 floor, opening 2011:

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/3903/ironfelix69.2/0_34f82_8c1cd95b_XL
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/4001/ironfelix69.2/0_34f83_f86cc8e7_XL

MFC "Pushkinskiy" 24 floors, promising to open before Euro 2012:

http://www.estaholding.com/data/uploads/f70a02c820cf1b5398113340a23316bb/4.jpg
Huge hole now:
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk215/orland_bucket/Misc/image.jpg

They are currently doing it :) You probably mean, when they start putting on membrane.

Yea thats what i ment :lol:

http://www.kyivpost.com/engine/templates/kyivpost/i/logo.jpg

Government transfers funds for Lviv airport and Kharkiv airport and stadium

http://www.kyivpost.com/data/thumbs/262/197/P/iblock/articles/54380/41.gif
Lviv airport

The government of Ukraine has transferred UAH 28.8 million for the construction of Lviv airport, UAH 20 million for the construction of Kharkiv stadium and UAH 8 million for Kharkiv airport, Vice Premier Ivan Vasiunyk has reported, commenting on the city mayors' statements on problems with financing certain objects.

"All these funds are part of the planned financing. I've never said there are no financing problems. I always said that the government's priority task amid the crisis [and I heard the same thing from Polish Sports and Tourism Minister Adam Giersz at our meeting] is the stable financing of priority objects," Vasiunyk said.

"The project is being publicly realized. And that is the position of the Lviv mayor and the Kharkiv mayor when they are saying they need additional funds. You can be assured that [their need] has been satisfied. They wanted to get the money that the government was planning to transfer a few days earlier," the vice premier said.

Link (http://www.kyivpost.com/news/business/bus_general/detail/54380/)

Good news from Ukraine, how nice to see and hear that! How the things with hotels are going in Khrakiv and Lviv?
Btw, Quicksilver, do you have any skylines of Donetsk just to see how those hotels and other structures are located towards the stadium and just to have a look of the city? :)

^^^^
http://s03.radikal.ru/i176/0907/e1/208a7ed680f5.jpg

http://s54.radikal.ru/i144/0911/68/b9ecb10737c9.jpg

http://nfocus.ru/images/50099130.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2528/4089184654_b25ff1458c_b.jpg[/IM

[IMG]http://i035.radikal.ru/0909/a4/7e77a1ba0a4b.jpg

Thats pretty cool.Growing skyscrapers:)

http://s60.radikal.ru/i168/0906/64/fa9df1d3fa7f.jpg

http://i065.radikal.ru/0906/f1/c6e3c85d7326.jpg

Donbass Arena:cheers:

http://s56.radikal.ru/i153/0904/53/a221cbfec285.jpg

Here (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=847664) you'll find thread wholly dedicated to Donetsk skyline.

Good news from Ukraine, how nice to see and hear that! How the things with hotels are going in Khrakiv and Lviv?
Btw, Quicksilver, do you have any skylines of Donetsk just to see how those hotels and other structures are located towards the stadium and just to have a look of the city? :)

Thanks.

I only have something like this:

River banks
http://s53.radikal.ru/i139/0910/8f/8281eb6d6611.jpg

City center:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2528/4089184654_b25ff1458c_b.jpg

Everything not very far from the stadium.

Newly opened hotels in Lviv:

http://m.io.ua/img_aa/medium/1224/68/12246870.jpg

http://socmart.com.ua/img/Reikartz%20Dworzec%20Lviv%20Hotel%20_big.JPG

Citadel Inn ****
http://m.io.ua/img_aa/medium/0944/39/09443920.jpg

http://m.io.ua/img_aa/medium/0944/39/09443917.jpg

Hotels in Kharkiv (probably weekest link in Kharkiv since they already have a stadium and airport):

4****
http://i41.tinypic.com/28i4uxk.jpg

4***
http://s43.radikal.ru/i102/0911/09/758d5efbf482.jpg

And full list (in Russian)

Отели Харькова

5*****

Космополит http://www.cosmopolit-hotel.com/
Sun Light Hotel http://jungle.ua/index.php?option=co...d=20&Itemid=44

4****

Аврора http://www.hotel-aurora.com.ua/page.php?id=7
Британия http://www.britaniya.kharkov.ua/
Виктория http://www.victoria-hotel.com.ua/
Мир http://www.hotel-mir.com.ua/
Харьков http://hotel.kharkov.com/
Чичиков http://chichikov-hotel.com.ua
Baden-Baden http://badenbaden.com.ua/
Carnaval Resort & SPA http://carnaval-hotel.com.ua/
Viva http://www.hotel-viva.com.ua/
Viva Club http://www.hotel-viva.com.ua/

3***

Аркада http://www.arkada.ukrfirm.com
Дружба http://www.druzhba-hotel.com/
Киевский http://www.hotel-kyivskiy.com/
Меркурий http://www.mercury-hotel.com.ua/
Нарт http://www.hotel-nart.kh.ua/index.html
Националь http://www.national.kharkiv.com/
Теремок http://hotel-teremok.com.ua/
ZS Клуб http://www.hotel-zs.com.ua/

2**

Ахтамар
Глория http://hotelgloria.com.ua/
Турист http://hotel-turist.kh.ua/

^^ Oh, wow, quite a lot! Nice to see this! I believe Kharkiv will defiantely be a host city! :)

^^ Oh, wow, quite a lot! Nice to see this! I believe Kharkiv will defiantely be a host city! :)

Yes, is no doubt about this. My only worries is Lviv now.:ohno:

Ukrainian stadiums - state of the progress:

DNIPROPETROVSK - 100%
http://uaeuro2012.com/images/dnepropetrovsk.png
DONETSK - 100%
http://xmages.net/out.php/i329457_stadmini.png

KHARKIV - 100%
http://uaeuro2012.com/images/harkov.png

KYIV - 20%
http://uaeuro2012.com/images/olimpiysky.png

ODESSA - 15%
http://uaeuro2012.com/images/odesa.png

LVIV - 15%
http://uaeuro2012.com/images/lvov.png

From www.uaeuro2012.com (http://uaeuro2012.com/)

:cheers::banana:

finally bigger update from Ukraine:cheers:

yeah, third ukrainian stadium (Metallist-arena in Kharkiv) was opened yesterday :banana:

^ Ok, maybe some pics of that? :)

^^ some pics by ukrainian user Xarton

http://i082.radikal.ru/0912/7c/cacd854f2867.jpg

http://i061.radikal.ru/0912/fc/e32bde034b9c.jpg

http://s43.radikal.ru/i100/0912/5c/439b1bd2b346.jpg

http://i082.radikal.ru/0912/5d/34b8f55fa8f9.jpg

http://i079.radikal.ru/0912/21/c42acec1e083.jpg

Are there any hotels being built in Warszawa?

Not the best looking stadium imho. But i guess its not bad either.

I think that there are alot of them being under construction. Most notably is the Zlota 44.

^^ Zlota 44 is a luxury apartment. Hotels in Warsaw, we have enough.

Stadium in Kharkiv may not be the best looking one, but at least they have one.
Too bad there is an athletics track around the field. I did't know they still build them that way...

^^ and if Kharkiv will get a possibility to host Euro 2012, their stadium will be the cheapest one amongst Euro 2012 stadiums in both countries (around 120 mln PLN, 365 mln UAH). Anyway good progress for Ukraine. As Jaroslawski said to Polish journalists in response to the information of possible not hosting Euro in Kharkiv : "You have information, we have stadiums". :nuts:

^ Well, yes! In Kharkiv I doubt even there might appear any public transporatation problems because they have a metro system! Though no idea how their city buses look like, but I believe among Donetsk and Lviv this city has a priority! :cheers:

Poznan
by Carte:

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_qiLdEB8e5XU/Sx0I7iHssrI/AAAAAAAAEyg/_Y_fuFwJUbA/s912/IMG_1546.JPG

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_qiLdEB8e5XU/Sx0I8Du6pSI/AAAAAAAAEyo/ZLOCsva8L0k/s912/IMG_1553.JPG

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_qiLdEB8e5XU/Sx0IxGivu3I/AAAAAAAAExw/6Kq5mzmsiiU/s912/IMG_1474.JPG

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_qiLdEB8e5XU/Sx0I5olBN8I/AAAAAAAAEyc/kmhU8iP39rE/s912/IMG_1543.JPG

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_qiLdEB8e5XU/Sx0HlzLgaEI/AAAAAAAAEvk/EiCqcAdQPGE/s912/IMG_1330.JPG

Ukrainian stadiums - state of the progress:

DNIPROPETROVSK - 100%
http://uaeuro2012.com/images/dnepropetrovsk.png
DONETSK - 100%
http://xmages.net/out.php/i329457_stadmini.png

KHARKIV - 100%
http://uaeuro2012.com/images/harkov.png

KYIV - 40%
http://uaeuro2012.com/images/olimpiysky.png

ODESSA - 15%
http://uaeuro2012.com/images/odesa.png

LVIV - 15%
http://uaeuro2012.com/images/lvov.png

From www.uaeuro2012.com (http://uaeuro2012.com/)

http://www.ua-football.com/images/gallery/2009metallreport/2009metallreport/IMGP2626.JPG

http://www.ua-football.com/images/gallery/2009metallreport/2009metallreport/IMGP2609.JPG

http://www.ua-football.com/images/gallery/2009metallreport/2009metallreport/IMGP2611.JPG

http://www.ua-football.com/images/gallery/2009metallreport/2009metallreport/IMGP2621.JPG

http://uaeuro2012.com/images/olimpiysky.png

Kiev just few day ago was 20% progress, they're working really fast:nuts:

http://www.ua-football.com/images/gallery/2009metallreport/2009metallreport/IMGP2611.JPG

Would you like to sit in the first tier of this stadium? :ohno: They won't see anything, behind those substitute benches.

Metalist stadium seems like it would be prepared for WC Italia 1990. Even now it's not too modern

^^ Who cares if it's not "too modern". It's built, it's ready, and it has met UEFA requirements. That's all that matters at this stage.

More photos from opening day can be found here: http://sport.bigmir.net/gallery/football/1315

^^ Who cares if it's not "too modern". It's built, it's ready, and it has met UEFA requirements. That's all that matters at this stage.

More photos from opening day can be found here: http://sport.bigmir.net/gallery/football/1315

Yes, it's built and ready, but it should matter for you. Not for UEFA

Yes, it's built and ready, but it should matter for you. Not for UEFA

Okay, it is not the most beautiful stadium in the world. I admit it. But the fact of the matter is, it does not really matter. It's aesthetic appearance will not play a factor for the UEFA to decide which stadiums will host the Euro or not.

Okay, it is not the most beautiful stadium in the world. I admit it. But the fact of the matter is, it does not really matter. It's aesthetic appearance will not play a factor for the UEFA to decide which stadiums will host the Euro or not.

I know that. But the stadium in Dnipropetrovsk was just 1000 times nicer than this

I know that. But the stadium in Dnipropetrovsk was just 1000 times nicer than this

I won't argue with that. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

^^ Who cares if it's not "too modern". It's built, it's ready, and it has met UEFA requirements. That's all that matters at this stage. Mjeh... But it's euro 2012 not euro 2010...also, where're hotels, where're roads, where is public transport...I just hope that UEFA won't lower requirements for Ukraine..again. Since they already did it couple of times...

Mjeh... But it's euro 2012 not euro 2010...also, where're hotels, where're roads, where is public transport...I just hope that UEFA won't lower requirements for Ukraine..again. Since they already did it couple of times...

What would you like to hear? I can go on and say how Poland receives billions of euros from the EU to fund its infrastructure projects, whereas Ukraine funds mostly all of its projects through the state and local budgets. Investors fund some of the projects, like stadiums in Donetsk, Dnipropetrovsk, and Kharkiv. Stadiums in Kyiv and Lviv are funded by local and state budgets. The hotels are also being constructed by private investors. The rest of the infrastructure projects like roads and public transport is funded through the government and local budgets. You can probably guess how much of this government money is stolen or misused. Private investors won't put their money in the country because of the future political risks (elections).

So what are you trying to argue exactly? That Poland receives better funding for projects than Ukraine? Probably the answer is yes. Given the current economic and political situation, however, I think we are doing alright, and it's not really the end of the world if some cities lose the right to host Euro...

Mjeh... But it's euro 2012 not euro 2010...also, where're hotels, where're roads, where is public transport...I just hope that UEFA won't lower requirements for Ukraine..again. Since they already did it couple of times...

idze chlopie stad:ohno:. Co tu po twoim gadaniu?



Other foumers please don't take him seriously...

Nice interior of Metalist stadium. I wonder, there is so much time to 2012, maybe some smart artists or architect could cover those supports around the exterior?

maybe, one day...:nuts:

Warsawbynight, do yo really think Dnipropetrovsk stadium is better than the one Kharkiv? That's actually too weird to hear! Kharkiv stadium is really ok, of course it's not the masterpiece but no point of building a stadium just to show up, don't you agree? Anyway, Kharkiv will gain even more with such stadium they have now due to athletic tracks and other facilities for different kinds of sports! :cheers:

What would you like to hear? I can go on and say how Poland receives billions of euros from the EU to fund its infrastructure projects, whereas Ukraine funds mostly all of its projects through the state and local budgets. Investors fund some of the projects, like stadiums in Donetsk, Dnipropetrovsk, and Kharkiv. Stadiums in Kyiv and Lviv are funded by local and state budgets. The hotels are also being constructed by private investors. The rest of the infrastructure projects like roads and public transport is funded through the government and local budgets. You can probably guess how much of this government money is stolen or misused. Private investors won't put their money in the country because of the future political risks (elections).

So what are you trying to argue exactly? That Poland receives better funding for projects than Ukraine? Probably the answer is yes. Given the current economic and political situation, however, I think we are doing alright, and it's not really the end of the world if some cities lose the right to host Euro...


You're 100% right, Ukraine is a great country with huge problems but you're still able to make progresses, keep doing it!

*Rant*

This is kind of getting embarrassing guys...everywhere I look, in the other stadium threads too all I see is Ukraine bashing from a limited group of Poles. It makes us look very primitive when other people read these threads and this is all they see of us....I mean what would you like the Ukrainians to do about their situation? Imagine if we were in difficult economic/political turmoil such as Ukraine and we would have to hear all of this bashing.... In the end we want the Euro 2012 to be a success and for this to happen both countries will have to work together because I can guarantee people will look at the end result as a combined effort.

*End of Rant*

As for the Metallist stadium, I kind of like it, the stadium definitely has a unique character of its own and the exterior facade is definitely nothing to be ashamed of!

^^agree... can't stand them...:ohno:

Perhaps we should start reporting those, who are here clearly just for the sake of trolling, to polish mod 625 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/member.php?u=13989), who has Admin authorities, i think he could deal with it, he's a very sensible guy.
Constructive criticism is fine, but if you start bashing for sport, the whole topic goes to hell. There are very few ukrainian posters here as it is.

Personally, I would understand bashing of Ukraine if there was a reason.
But the situation being as it is - with practically half of stadiums in Ukraine already complete and none so far in Poland, with existing metro systems in all of Ukraine's host cities & only one in Poland (Warsaw) ... who with a slight hint of sanity would have a reason to bash Ukraine?:nuts:

As for nice pics of hotels & motorways in Poland that people post - these things are good to look at but hardly necessary for the World Cup. Real football fans will sleep outside in tents if needed. And few people will be using motorways - its the airports & railway system you should be concerned about.

First of all, not World Cup but Euro 2012. Second, what do you mean by 'real football fans'? So those who sleep in hotels are not real football fans? Third, there will be a significant number of fans using motorways, especially those from neighbouring countries such as Germany or Czech Republic. Fourth, yes you are right, airports and railway systems are important and there are serious concerns about it in Ukraine, as they are in a rather disastrous state (especially railways).

Someone mentioned earlier that those who criticize Ukrainians for lack of progress cannot justify their concerns because Ukraine does not receive any support from EU and Poland does. I get the point, but - in my view - the major problem there is poor management (or rather lack of it), endemic, ubiquitous corruption and permanent inability of Ukrainian politicians to come to any sort of agreement on anything (including EURO). Money problems are secondary and are a result of all the former.


As for nice pics of hotels & motorways in Poland that people post - these things are good to look at but hardly necessary for the World Cup. Real football fans will sleep outside in tents if needed. And few people will be using motorways - its the airports & railway system you should be concerned about.

http://pic.ipicture.ru/uploads/091209/66745/Sm7HlEn6F9.jpg

http://pic.ipicture.ru/uploads/091209/66745/hHl7p2zpWG.jpg

http://pic.ipicture.ru/uploads/091209/66745/FV0ZuT3KdA.jpg

I said this few times on this forum and I will repeat another time,
The easiest to prepare and cheapest thing for Euro 2012 are stadiums.
Stadiums will cost only 4% of the total costs , roads that`s the real
chalange , they are most expensive and very important , how will people
get to Wroclaw stadium without A8 motorway , stay half of day
in traffic jam in Wroclaw ?

Have you ever been to fotball match that were only 10 000 people ?
did you see that number of cars ?
I was last week on Zaglebie - Legia match in Lubin - only 9 000 people
but it took me 1 hour get from that small town there to stadium by car and another hour to get off back to the town.
Have you ever seen roads in Wroclaw at 8 o`clock morning ?

Warszawa:

http://i49.tinypic.com/x5cmch.jpg

Gdańsk:

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_6LKpBOuTcu4/Sx-1SmGPCXI/AAAAAAAADIs/dbmqHyG5e4s/IMG_7084.JPG

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_6LKpBOuTcu4/Sx-1NmE-C3I/AAAAAAAADIk/UHhxbWugxr4/IMG_7083.JPG

Wrocław:

http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/1117/pc010146.jpg

http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/5537/pc080046f.jpg

Poznań:

http://budowa.maroonpoint.com/2009/s1612.jpg

http://budowa.maroonpoint.com/2009/s1620.jpg

^^ Zlota 44 is a luxury apartment. Hotels in Warsaw, we have enough.

You don't even realize how wrong you are.:ohno:

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/4203/1b493fff17a1.jpg

new terminal (smaller one on a left side of the picture) at Poznań-Ławica Airport
Opening 2011

It resembles the stadium, cool! A little bit OT, but I was thinking about visiting Poznan, is the airport close to town?

Warsaw NS is going to be a great stadium in terms of saving parking places, one of the very few stadiums that will have a huge car park under the pitch! And all the other stadiums now are beginning to look impressive! :banana:

It resembles the stadium, cool! A little bit OT, but I was thinking about visiting Poznan, is the airport close to town?

Airport it's very close, only 7 km to Poznan's center.

Wow, look at the progress on the stadiums, you can really their shapes starting to come out now.

Guys, please ignore those arrogant users who are offensive towards Ukraine. There are only few of them and they represent only themselves, they are minority....

As for the progress, our stadiums are progressing perfectly and Ukrainian airports as I can see will also be finished by 2012. There will always be something wrong, so relax, Championships in Austria were not as perfectly organised as you think, so take it easy :)

You're 100% right, Ukraine is a great country with huge problems but you're still able to make progresses, keep doing it!
What about zbyszekkk- BURAK is the right word to describe him :bash:

That is my last name. Why is that an insult!?

That is my last name. Why is that an insult!?Cause it's an insult in polish, and it was already reported to admins...

That is my last name. Why is that an insult!?
Sorry, I should have been more careful...
I corrected it :)

what is the state of polish marketing strategy regarding euro2012? does one even exist to showcase the country to europe?

what is the state of polish marketing strategy regarding euro2012? does one even exist to showcase the country to europe?

There are 78 distinct promotional initiatives in Poland focused on using EURO2012 to improve knowledge and image of Poland abroad. Full blown media campaign will start at the of 2010.

The 4th truss is done, so the main construction of roof is ready


by Carte
http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/7256/img2397m.jpg

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/6403/img2531gk.jpg

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/5074/img2533z.jpg

so it seems to be final - according to Interfax we have a positive 4+4 decision concerning the EURO 2012 championship hosts. I'm happy about that.

article in Polish:

http://www.tvn24.pl/-1,1633184,0,1,euro-2012-ukraina-ma-cztery-miasta--final-w-kijowie,wiadomosc.html

YES IT IS... FINAL IN KYIV and 4+4

:cheers: :banana:

For all those depressing individuals who were whining here that it is certain that UEFA will not choose 4 cities in Ukraine and that final is not going to be in Kyiv:

http://i47.tinypic.com/b6q9eo.jpg

Apparently UEFA experts are better informed than SSC trolls :lol::cheers:

Now your'e being an a.....e no different than them trolls :ohno:

Well done Uefa for standing by the Ukraine...Now lets hope all the discussions bout hosts is finally over...Lets look Forward to a great Tournament Polska-Ukraina :)

Btw Lech pitch looks terrible at the minute, seems a bit early to be laying it seeing as the first games wont be played till march or April

Now your'e being an a.....e no different than them trolls :ohno:

Yes, because I'm ecstatic. No more speculations on this subject!

Metalist Stadium

http://fotografov.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/panorama-of-kharkov-stadium1.jpg

YEAH!! What a joy to see and hear that! Well done UEFA, well done Ukraine!! So, since now, let's see only those cities decided to be hosts, nothing else! :cheers:

Yes, because I'm ecstatic. No more speculations on this subject!

You're trolling again. I saw you spaming with this in all Euro 2012 related threads...:ohno:

Btw Lech pitch looks terrible at the minute, seems a bit early to be laying it seeing as the first games wont be played till march or April

Because grass has to entrench. Now the weather is not bad, so they have chosen to make it now, whereas there could be much worse weather in February and they wouldn't be able to cover the ground by grass, which could also influence on Lech apperance in the next round.

Topic:
4+4 is a good news :) I was expecting that, but only thing I am worry about is Lviv stadium. I was personally there, during summer holidays, and the security guy told me, that number of workers does not pass 50 people ;/ I still look at the progress at this stadium, and it doesn't satisfy me. Lwów is a great city, the best for 'before/after-matches' activities in Ukraine, but they have also start working hard, or Uefa change her mind.

Excellent!!! I must admit that i had almost given up hope on Lviv after that UEFA preparation report half a year ago. But apparently that just mobilised
Ukrainians and they proved all nonbelievers, including me, wrong. I'm so glad! :cheers:

You're trolling again. I saw you spaming with this in all Euro 2012 related threads...:ohno:

.... dont be child:ohno:

.... dont be child:ohno:

??? you're talking about yoursefl?

Вітаємо братів! Тепер і авзяття, праця щира свого ще докаже! І показати, що ви, браття, козацького роду:cheers:

lukaszek89... I feel you dont like today news. Becouse of 4+4 and Final in Kyiv.
Look some pages before. On every threed connected to Ukraine preparations was Troll ingerention. Now finnaly Ukraine has good news from UEFA.. Finnaly it closed those sick sometimes even bad wishing. Whats wrong in VelesHomais post in that case?

Some more news. The ambassadors of Euro 2012 become Zbigniew Boniek and Andrij Szewczenko. The main group stage draw will be leaded by Andrzej Szarmach and Ołeh Błochin.

lukaszek89... I feel you dont like today news. Becouse of 4+4 and Final in Kyiv.
Look some pages before. On every threed connected to Ukraine preparations was Troll ingerention. Now finnaly Ukraine has good news from UEFA.. Finnaly it closed those sick sometimes even bad wishing. Whats wrong in VelesHomais post in that case?

I'm against Polish and Ukrainian trolls( I know Veles is not) but he posted this picture in every Euro2012 related thread. From begginnig it was known it will be 4+4 and final in Kiev- it's mainlly political decision( for example Kraków which is already better prepared than most cities for Euro 2012 will be, is not even hosting any single match)

EOT

I'm against Polish and Ukrainian trolls( I know Veles is not) but he posted this picture in every Euro2012 related thread. From begginnig it was known it will be 4+4 and final in Kiev- it's mainlly political decision( for example Kraków which is already better prepared than most cities for Euro 2012 will be, is not even hosting any single match)

EOT
not everybody was thinking there will be 4+4. PF. Many was counting on Kyiv fail.

Kraków? Euro is also kid of advert. Kraków is well known in Europe. For sure more than Gdańsk or Poznań. So whats wrong in that decison.?

That Kraków is better prepared for Euro than most of host cities ever will be...

But this is hitory;)

And congratulations for Ukraine! We will make great tournament;)

EURO 2012 logo ready for launch

The world will get a first look at the official logo for UEFA EURO 2012™ in Poland and Ukraine on Monday when the design is formally unwrapped at a ceremony in Kyiv's Mykhailivska Square from 12.15CET.

Wrapped and ready
The giant logo will be literally under wraps in the square over the weekend, having been lovingly gift-wrapped in anticipation of the official launch on Monday. The event will also witness the first public outing of the slogan that has been chosen for the competition; for UEFA EURO 2008™ in Austria and Switzerland it was the memorable 'Expect Emotions'.

Honoured guests
UEFA President Michel Platini will attend the ceremony along with Polish Football Association President Grzegorz Lato, his Football Federation of Ukraine counterpart Grigoriy Surkis and representatives from the eight host cities: Gdansk, Warsaw, Poznan, Wroclaw, Lviv, Kharkiv, Donetsk and Kyiv. The launch proceedings will be followed by a news conference at the nearby Intercontinental Hotel.

Visual identity
The purpose of the logo is to give UEFA EURO 2012™ a distinct personality of its own, and the accompanying visual identity combined with the logo will be applied across a wide range of promotional applications from tickets to web banners. The objective is to help promote the tournament as one of the world's biggest sporting events – by providing an easily recognisable identity inspired by the cultural reference of the Wycinanki pattern from both host nations.

Link: http://www.uefa.com/competitions/euro2012/news/newsid=933590.html

I have a feeling the logo will be some sort of flower....

Some Wrocław Arena photos:

http://d.polskatimes.pl/k/r/4/88/4e/4b2201bba0a8c_p.jpg

http://d.polskatimes.pl/k/r/12/f8/09/4b2201d4601d1_p.jpg

http://d.polskatimes.pl/k/r/1/15/ef/4b2201f8ddb58_p.jpg

http://d.polskatimes.pl/k/r/16/33/ac/4b22020f2fcc5_p.jpg

http://d.polskatimes.pl/k/r/9/a0/34/4b22022501927_p.jpg

:cheers:

Kharkiv new airport terminal:

http://pic.ipicture.ru/uploads/091209/66745/FV0ZuT3KdA.jpg

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/1170/52235104.jpg

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/144/36282444.jpg

http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/1857/89386828.jpg

IMHO airport development will be crucial for this tournament,especially in Ukraine not only because their roads arent in prime condition;)but because the country is so huge.There is some 1200 km between Lviv and Donetsk,while farthest polish city Gdansk is "only" 720 km away from Lviv.How the situation considering airports looks in other cities?Congrats on yesterdays decision,this tournament could be a giant leap towards modern Ukraine:cheers:

^ Well, not only for Ukraine, but for Poland as well! I doubt all these motorways, airports, railroads and the stadiums would be built even in a decade time had Poland not got the rights to host the tournament! Anyway, with EURO, these two countries should become one of the main European football landmarks! :cheers:

The 4th truss is done, so the main construction of roof is ready


by Carte
http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/7256/img2397m.jpg

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/6403/img2531gk.jpg

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/5074/img2533z.jpg

:puke:

^^ нафига ради одного смайла квотить столько фоток, достаточно процитировать ту часть, где текст.

Metallist stadium view

http://pics.livejournal.com/stepbystep_hdr/pic/00213eqp

via

http://community.livejournal.com/ua_football/826209.html
http://stepbystep-hdr.livejournal.com/75386.html

ONE MINUTE!

:puke:

You present a very eloquent and well thought out argument.

:puke:

LOL.

You should know that what you see 2 posts above will look like this :

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/3626/mentalcam101.jpg

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/3271/przekrojtortcam4vrayref.jpg

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/1668/viz7000x3500zzadrzewzlo.jpg

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/3271/przekrojtortcam4vrayref.jpg

http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/1499/86298291.jpg


Then you'll be able to vomit as you want.:lol::lol:

There's a lot of love in this thread. I can see why you guys decided to host this tournament together. :hug:

There's a lot of love in this thread. I can see why you guys decided to host this tournament together. :hug:

:lol:

:puke:
Yeah! That's what I'm doing all the time while visiting the poorest country in Europe currently known as Ukraine or Hoholandia:lol:

^^^ STOP!!! Writing in this way, you are the same as him

This is ridiculous.

Yeah! That's what I'm doing all the time while visiting the poorest country in Europe currently known as Ukraine or Hoholandia:lol:

Who the F* are you?!!. GET OUT!

Just as always, a huge senseless OT here! Why don't we forget that stupid smily and stick more to updates for instance! ;) Btw, what is now happening on Lviv stadium construction site?

You present a very eloquent and well thought out argument.

a stadium for me is terrible
visualization of stadium on 5 marks

Whats going on in here? lol

a stadium for me is terrible
visualization of stadium on 5 marks

So why don't you wait to those visualisations come true? Every stadium u/c may looks awful. Thinkiing that way we could say that Lviv stadium is ':puke:' because it has strange perky pales...

So why don't you wait to those visualisations come true? Every stadium u/c may looks awful. Thinkiing that way we could say that Lviv stadium is ':puke:' because it has strange perky pales...

persuaded)
when will build then will discuss you a stadium

persuaded)
when will build then will discuss you a stadium

..... and then maybe you'll comprehend the English language........

The pics were taken in early december. Every building looks like crap in that kind of weather and light. I think it's (Poznan) a nice stadium though. People will be sitting close to ther pitch and the roof looks like a nice design as well.

Just as always, a huge senseless OT here! Why don't we forget that stupid smily and stick more to updates for instance! ;) Btw, what is now happening on Lviv stadium construction site?Like all your posts...Also, I'm worrying quite a bit about tomorrows logo presentation...

The pics were taken in early december. Every building looks like crap in that kind of weather and light. I think it's (Poznan) a nice stadium though. People will be sitting close to ther pitch and the roof looks like a nice design as well.

I dont like interior. Construction is to heavy for me. But exterior, looks nice especialy from the green side.

Like all your posts...Also, I'm worrying quite a bit about tomorrows logo presentation...


Im a bit too, because it's quite hard to find main theme of logo connecting both countries.

OMG, why my country is full of megalomaniacs? How many complexes have people who are offending Ukraine? I have no doubts that there is a guilt of media. Polish newspapers and TV programs are full of informations about the poor situation of Ukraine. It's absurd that Poles think that Ukrainians don't know what is McDonald's, mobile phone and the Internet. What a shame! Let's remind where we were 10 years ago. We stamp when sb from western Europe call us "sluts" or "car thiefs". But we do this same!

We even don't know how close to us is Ukraine but we need to regard sb as a worse than we are...

The main conclusion of this topic is that maybe Ukraine wouldn't have as great infrastructure as Poland during the EURO (but I'm not sure about it), but they will have sth what is more important - PEOPLE. People who are not as rude as Poles, and who enjoy even not beautiful but built stadium. Most of Us is only criticising.

PS. TVP (Polish TV) announced that they will uncover few details of logo in "Sportowa Niedziela" - TVP Info - 23:00 (now).

..... and then maybe you'll comprehend the English language........

ти що самий розумний????:lol: тупий осел

It's absurd that Poles think that Ukrainians don't know what is McDonald's, mobile phone and the Internet. What a shame!

Are you idiot??:|:bash::bash::bash: Show me these people because it seems to me that you do not know what you talking about...

ти що самий розумний????:lol: тупий осел

Ти дурний дупу.

Are you idiot?? Show me these people because it seems to me that you do not know what you talking about...

Unfortunetely, I'm not colorizing informations. I had visited Ukraine during last holidays, and when my friends saw photos from Kiev, they were really impressed by McDonald's. It's terrible but true. I know that it is only a part of Poles thinking in this way, but it is unpleasant.

Please, don't be angry with me. My criticism is not for people who are knowingly reporting from Poland and discussing about EURO 2012 in this subject, but for these who are only trolling here and offending Ukraine.

BTW, Adam Olkowicz said sth about the logo. It will be colourfull, with domination of national colours and colours of UEFA (?). Probably it will have connection with the folk tradiiton. Asked about "wycinanki", he smiled ;-).

Maybe we should leave this thread only for photos, and create another one for all kind of trolling, bashing and even proper commenting? Are there any admin responsible for this thread? Skyscraper is so superb that I have dozens of subscriptions. Personally I'm tired of losing time every 9 of 10 times when I come to this thread to look for photo/projects and instead finding some few pages of mostly loosely related comments.
This was fine thread and it is going into the shambles gradually.

My thoughts exactly. That's why I just asked 625 to moderate this thread from time to time, hopefuly he can spare some time.

agree... I think this thread can be only about news, photos, informations etc. without personal comments...

without personal comments...

Then what will be doing @Triceratops ? ;).

There's a lot of love in this thread. I can see why you guys decided to host this tournament together. :hug:

Well... to be honest - we didn't! In matter of fact - our governments and football associations did... (mayby unfortunetely some would say...)

In my oppinion "wycinanki" logo isnt a good idea... Its hard to identify with it. I think the best are logos with animals, for example - eagle and stork or something like this - in this particular situation. (symbols of countries that organize E2012) Then its good from marketing ponint of view - you can sell mascotes, teddybears etc., streets are full of big mascotes to take a photo with... And birds can be shown in very funny and charming way... everybody knows what its about. And "wycinanki"? What to do with that? Any ideas?

Ти дурний дупу.

мовчи лях тупий

ти що самий розумний????:lol: тупий осел

This is english language thread, and dont know why you use ukrainian to insult people? You dont know that everybody can use this magic tool?

http://translate.google.pl/?hl=pl&tab=wT#uk|en|%D1%82%D0%B8%20%D1%89%D0%BE%20%D1%81%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%B8%D0%B9%20%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B7%D1%83%D0%BC%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B9%3F%3F%3F%3F%20%D1%82%D1%83%D0%BF%D0%B8%D0%B9%20%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%BB

Mod is more than welcome in this thread!!!

^^ thats at least brig for me

Wycinanki originated in Poland and are probably the most popular there...

We'll see tomorrow about the design ;)

By tov_tob (with a bit of the skyline on background :lol:)
http://pics.livejournal.com/tov_tob/pic/000zy9xc

http://pics.livejournal.com/tov_tob/pic/00103bc6

Brigs for the masses for beating around the bush.

Who's next?

http://m.onet.pl/_m/591d767cf5bc23254a2d691ddbd65545,5,1.jpg

Horrible logo.. who the hell thought a flower and football go along nicely in a logo needs to be fired and never work as a designer.

http://doc.rmf.pl/media/img/166/166554_n_mi_big.jpg

http://doc.rmf.pl/media/img/166/166554_d_big.jpg

http://www.uefa.com/ml/images/euro2012/venuemap.jpg

http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/8052/19201229.jpg

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/3549/euro2012.jpg

+ http://www.uefa.com/competitions/euro2012/news/newsid=934390.html

I call it crap. BTW Nintendo designers should sue UEFA for stealling Super Mario flower sprites:)

I like the general idea, it makes sense. But the execution itself leaves me somewhat cold.

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Looks ok for me :)

Don't like it at all. Leaves no memories. But if you look at London Olympic logo :lol:, our is way ahead. Still expected something better. Nice colour still ...

I think it has arms and legs as we say in Poland :) Not a bad logo.
Like the colours and overall design.

p.s it reminds me a little some console game menu but its ok for me :nuts:

It's not great but...it could be much worse...

I like the overall colours and texture if you know what I mean.

Recycled idea...?
http://m.onet.pl/_m/909e7ae69474a39d3701de3e62eaa62b,14,1.jpg

Good sign. It could be better, but I'm glad. The main colours of Euro2012 will be deep violet and gold. That's great!

And what's more it gives great oportunity to make fairy flower design in the rest of promos. Good Job!

PS. The movies above... mniam - perfect! It surpassed all my expectations!

Then what will be doing @Triceratops ? ;).

:hahano: Are you :weird:? What's the big deal with this offence?! I'm just always expressing my own opinion, the thing is that I'm a fan of both these countries and it's a privilege for me to talk about theit development!

:hahano: Are you :weird:? What's the big deal with this offence?! I'm just always expressing my own opinion, the thing is that I'm a fan of both these countries and it's a privilege for me to talk about theit development!You aren't talking about anything man. All your posts are a bs spam like "Oh i like this" or "Oh nice progress" etc...So, if you have nothing to say, please just keep your mouth shut!

http://obrazy.2012.org.pl/images/stories/aktualnosci/logo_euro2012.gif

Looks OK!

@Triceratops just ignore users like zbyszekkk, feel free to share Your opinion with others in this thread. I dont mind it unlike this nationalistic crap posted here and Im sure that most of ppl here would share my opinion. I respect Your non nationalistic and non hating point of view.

Logo is not bad imo, could be better, but still is quite pleasant to the eye.

Yeah Triceratops, don't worry. This forum looks like a 4chan recently ;)

@Triceratops just ignore users like zbyszekkk, feel free to share Your opinion with others in this thread. I dont mind it unlike this nationalistic crap posted here and Im sure that most of ppl here would share my opinion. I respect Your non nationalistic and non hating point of view.

^^
Nothing more to say.

IMO the logo isn't bad, but it could be better, indeed.
What is it reffering to?
For example: Austria's and Switzerland's logo contained the mountains look and it was a reference to their landscape.

Then what is our logo reffering to? The Land? :ohno:

The next matter is colours of our flag. They are upside down.

Looks quite alright...

http://i46.tinypic.com/2q21ea9.jpg

It's alright I guess...not a fan of it but it's not terrible either.

+ http://www.uefa.com/competitions/euro2012/news/newsid=934390.html

It's not a crap but the font which was used has some oriental look imho. I would have associated it more with Thailand than Poland/Ukraine :)

You aren't talking about anything man. All your posts are a bs spam like "Oh i like this" or "Oh nice progress" etc...So, if you have nothing to say, please just keep your mouth shut!


What is you problem with Triceratops? This thread is full of tools, guys who bash everything and everyone, but you have a problem with Triceratops for posting positive comments? Give your head a shake, your post made you look like a 12-year-old.

Beautiful logo!

It's positive and it reflects Slavic culture (folk ornaments, paintings, embroidery).

It's FIFA's recent policy to make such cartoonish, positive logos. If you don't believe check out the last four logos of World Cups and Euro's:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_03NbAFyQ-aI/SZ0nWHkOJJI/AAAAAAAAFIc/g3B4Z1e8Ung/s320/FIFA-World-Cup-2010-South-Africa.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_c6_4HR-pbvs/SEZQ87f73-I/AAAAAAAAAdc/G7fF2QjasYM/s400/TN11318_euro2008_logo(1).jpg
http://pfutebol.com/images/Team%20Logos/world%20cup%202006%20logo.jpg
http://logotipo.pt/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/euro2004.jpg

I just don't really take it serious, just don't care for those who have something against a person's expressed own opinion! You, guys (@ few polish offensive users), should better not leech at the form I'm talking but the positive I convey! ;)

Must admit, the logo is good enough, it stresses these countries' Slavic routes and shows a hopeful man stretching his arms towards the sky, at least that makes a nice impression! :)

Beautiful logo!

It's positive and it reflects Slavic culture (folk ornaments, paintings, embroidery).

It's FIFA's recent policy to make such cartoonish, positive logos. If you don't believe check out the last four logos of World Cups and Euro's:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_03NbAFyQ-aI/SZ0nWHkOJJI/AAAAAAAAFIc/g3B4Z1e8Ung/s320/FIFA-World-Cup-2010-South-Africa.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_c6_4HR-pbvs/SEZQ87f73-I/AAAAAAAAAdc/G7fF2QjasYM/s400/TN11318_euro2008_logo(1).jpg
http://pfutebol.com/images/Team%20Logos/world%20cup%202006%20logo.jpg
http://logotipo.pt/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/euro2004.jpg

UEFA's logos are far better than the crap FIFA comes up with. I particularly hate the fact that all FIFA logos (U20, U17 world cups etc) have that same shitty corporate identity logo "frame".

^^
Nothing more to say.

IMO the logo isn't bad, but it could be better, indeed.
What is it reffering to?
For example: Austria's and Switzerland's logo contained the mountains look and it was a reference to their landscape.

Then what is our logo reffering to? The Land? :ohno:

The next matter is colours of our flag. They are upside down.

yeah, that's true concerning the reference, but regarding Poland and the Ukraine it's pretty tough to find something that we have in common and would be easy to present, besides the origin/ethnicity.
would a bottle of vodka be a better solution for a logo ? :lol:

that's why I think the logo is ok. nothing special, but it sstill looks nice. the real struggle will be about the mascot - I'm waiting for your propositions :D

and finally - the way our national colours are presented is not a problem for me, if we speak about their order. it depends on your point of view - e.g. the colour of the German apparel during the world cup in the US in '94 sometimes was green (as far as I remember, or was it in '96 in the UK?), which had nothing to do with their national flag.

very elegant logo

The logo is beautiful. I knew it was going to be a flower :)

The official logo, visual identity and slogan for UEFA EURO 2012™ have been unveiled at a special event in Kyiv's Mykhailivska Square with co-hosts Ukraine and Poland looking forward to 'Creating History Together'.

Star guests
Polish Football Association President Grzegorz Lato, his Football Federation of Ukraine counterpart Grigoriy Surkis and UEFA President Michel Platini officially unwrapped the logo as the highlight of the launch proceedings. The ceremony was attended by the President of Ukraine, Viktor Yushchenko, and Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko, representatives from the eight host cities – Gdansk, Warsaw, Poznan, Wroclaw, Lviv, Kharkiv, Donetsk and Kyiv – and numerous other dignitaries.

Visual identity
The purpose of the logo is to give UEFA EURO 2012™ a personality of its own, with the visual identity to be applied across a range of promotional applications from tickets to web banners. The objective is to help promote the tournament – one of the world's biggest sporting events – by providing an easily recognisable identity with a flavour of the host nations. The logo takes its visual lead from 'wycinanka', the traditional art of paper cutting practised in rural areas of Poland and Ukraine, as a tribute to the fauna and flora of the region.

EURO bloom
The 'bloom' logo has a flower representing each of the co-host nations and a central ball symbolising the emotion and passion of the competition, while the stem denotes the structural aspect of the competition, UEFA and European football. Nature has inspired other features of the visual identity, with woodland green, sun yellow, aqua blue, sky blue and blackberry purple being the crucial tones of the palette of colours to figure in official tournament branding.

Uniting ethos
The event slogan, meanwhile, is 'Creating History Together'. The staging of the UEFA European Championship finals in Poland and Ukraine, a first for Central and Eastern Europe, will have a place in the history books, with everyone involved in UEFA EURO 2012™ – organisers, host countries, host cities, players and fans – contributing to another exciting chapter of European football.

Source: http://www.uefa.com/competitions/euro2012/news/newsid=934390.html

The next matter is colours of our flag. They are upside down.

The way the colors of the flags are represented is perfectly fine imo. They sort of move from the inside to the outside, which you can see on many roundels:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8e/Roundel_of_the_Belgian_Air_Force.svg/150px-Roundel_of_the_Belgian_Air_Force.svg.png http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/92/Flag_of_Belgium_%28civil%29.svg/200px-Flag_of_Belgium_%28civil%29.svg.png

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/47/Roundel_of_the_Italian_Air_Force.svg/150px-Roundel_of_the_Italian_Air_Force.svg.png http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/03/Flag_of_Italy.svg/200px-Flag_of_Italy.svg.png

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a5/Roundel_of_the_French_Air_Force.svg/150px-Roundel_of_the_French_Air_Force.svg.png http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c3/Flag_of_France.svg/200px-Flag_of_France.svg.png

I love our new logo, it really reminds me our countries!

Well, I can actually see now that this "inside to outside" approach works for the Polish flag, but not for the Ukrainian one. :D

But the Polish Flag colours are seperated verticaly, which makes it different, I agree that the colours for the Polish flower should be the other way round. If it is meant to represent the Polish flag and not just the national colours.

colours are correct
http://www.zgapa.pl/zgapedia/data_pictures/_uploads_wiki/u/Ukraina_Godlo_1.png
http://www.sklep.eduforum.pl/images/God__o_Polski_48da3d975bc30.jpg

A bit of fireworks in Warsaw
http://www.tvn24.pl/-1,1633625,0,1,warszawa-w-blasku-euro-2012-ciemna-plama-zawisla-na-pkin,wiadomosc.html

the best logo in history

http://i46.tinypic.com/2q21ea9.jpg

This logo is beautiful. The only thing that i dont like is that the person in the Polish flower is gray not red. The person in the Ukrainian flower is blue :/

I didn't like it much at first, but it grew on me throughout the day. It has a lot of symbolism if you think about it. It's overall friendly and optimistic.

Although I don't like this Ancient Egyptian Pharaoh PC Game Font
http://www.uefa.com/ml/images/euro2012/venuemap.jpg

I don't see what it has to do with Ukraine or Poland

I didn't like it much at first, but it grew on me throughout the day. It has a lot of symbolism if you think about it. It's overall friendly and optimistic.

Same here. When i first saw it i didnt like it but it grew on me.

And i think the font looks nice =)
I also like the vines sticking out with the leafs...

I've read somewhere that this ancient egyptian :lol:font is to resemble Cyrylic script so that one can see influence of both countries(latin letters in pseudo cyrilic style).It works I guess for those who dont read cyrilic as it looks oriental to some extent:D

I don't like the logo but i don't have it. I do however like the colours!

some are you are saying what is the relavence or symbolism of the flower btw the two countries. But what symbols and options were there that are common to the two countries?

sickle and hammer :hahano:

jokes aside:
- both are flat
- both have history of men with big mustaches
http://www.torugg.org/images/cossack%20letter.jpeg

We have common roots and our ancestors loved mustache ;)

I've read somewhere that this ancient egyptian :lol:font is to resemble Cyrylic script so that one can see influence of both countries(latin letters in pseudo cyrilic style).It works I guess for those who dont read cyrilic as it looks oriental to some extent:D

But Cyrrilic doesn't look like Ancient Egyptian font :lol:
http://images.google.com/url?source=imgres&ct=tbn&q=http://upl.com.ua/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/2012.jpg&usg=AFQjCNEGgLV0rdhDand2dPE37cOSlTLWGQ

I like how it was unveiled
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Great slogan. It's telling of both countries.

Now the question is which do you like better?

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3320/3171309239_0debb8c3f5.jpg


OR


http://i46.tinypic.com/2q21ea9.jpg

The new one is better, has more meaning behind it. My favorite related logo is of Lviv:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/uk/b/be/%D0%95%D0%BC%D0%B1%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BC%D0%B0_%D0%9B%D1%8C%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0_%D0%B4%D0%BE_%D0%84%D0%B2%D1%80%D0%BE-2012.jpg

Terrible logo. Looks like something stolen from the Middle East :down:

the new one is better

The new one is better, has more meaning behind it. My favorite related logo is of Lviv:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/uk/b/be/%D0%95%D0%BC%D0%B1%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BC%D0%B0_%D0%9B%D1%8C%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0_%D0%B4%D0%BE_%D0%84%D0%B2%D1%80%D0%BE-2012.jpg

Wow, Lviv's is awesome! Definitely have to agree with you on this one.

http://img.lenta.ru/photo/2009/12/14/euro/17.jpg

http://img.lenta.ru/photo/2009/12/14/euro/12.jpg

This logo is beautiful. The only thing that i dont like is that the person in the Polish flower is gray not red. The person in the Ukrainian flower is blue :/

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/6580/2q21ea9.jpg

:)

IMO, it looks really great and catchy! With such remembering bright and positive colours and with its childish style it makes a good impression of a successful further-coming tournament! :cheers:

well Kica if you try to persuade the guys at UEFA then they'll maybe approve your small change in the logo :)

but even without the red person inside the flower, it's still ok !

Thanks Kica for the change! I was hoping someone would do that just to see how it would like look. It doesnt look too bad ;)

Gdańsk

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/8167/zlotugrudzien.jpg

There's an alternative logo:

http://uaimages.com/images/873733photoshare.ru-4482209.jpg

There's an alternative logo:

http://uaimages.com/images/873733photoshare.ru-4482209.jpg

^^ :lol: quite nice :cheers:

^^^ I understand sausage for Poland as we make the best one, but bacon for Ukraine? Is it so popular there?

Yes, bacon with lard (słonina) is considered our "national cuisine" although it's not that popular in real life, just in folklore and jokes, I personally prefer kielbasa.

:)

NSK "Olimpiyskyi" (Kyiv, Ukraine)

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/3905/bohdan-astro.18/0_205a4_3f7b9291_XL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/bohdan-astro/view/132516/)
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/4112/bohdan-astro.17/0_205a2_24f9dca6_XL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/bohdan-astro/view/132514/)
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/3903/bohdan-astro.18/0_205a8_3024c8bf_XL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/bohdan-astro/view/132520/)
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/4008/bohdan-astro.18/0_205ac_99c6c351_XL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/bohdan-astro/view/132524/)
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/3901/bohdan-astro.18/0_205af_731f97dd_XL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/bohdan-astro/view/132527/)
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/3905/bohdan-astro.18/0_205b3_f8fa6bdf_XL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/bohdan-astro/view/132531/)
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/4011/bohdan-astro.18/0_205bb_3403dfe5_XL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/bohdan-astro/view/132539/)
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/4012/bohdan-astro.18/0_205bc_f4942335_XL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/bohdan-astro/view/132540/)
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/3900/bohdan-astro.18/0_205bd_81aaa324_XL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/bohdan-astro/view/132541/)
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/4013/bohdan-astro.18/0_205a9_fb026f84_XL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/bohdan-astro/view/132521/)
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/4013/bohdan-astro.18/0_205b0_dac39b02_XL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/bohdan-astro/view/132528/)
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/3904/bohdan-astro.18/0_205b1_b1592317_XL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/bohdan-astro/view/132529/)
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/4112/bohdan-astro.18/0_205ae_b86e040c_XL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/bohdan-astro/view/132526/)
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/4008/bohdan-astro.18/0_205b2_960030fe_XL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/bohdan-astro/view/132530/)
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/3906/bohdan-astro.18/0_205b6_190990ed_XL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/bohdan-astro/view/132534/)
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/4011/bohdan-astro.18/0_205b8_ba12f64_XL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/bohdan-astro/view/132536/)


Sources:
http://dfaw.livejournal.com/78469.html
http://tov-tob.livejournal.com/13853.html

Yes, bacon with lard (słonina) is considered our "national cuisine" although it's not that popular in real life, just in folklore and jokes, I personally prefer kielbasa.

:)

I definitely ate salo when I was over there. Seemed pretty popular to me :D

I like that logo much better.. thats what the world knows us for anyway.. Polish Sausage, but instead of the bacon i think we should have a girl because we all know girls in Ukraine and Poland are one of our best looking/recognized trademarks.

^^Not such a good idea on the girl part. That would make as look like a #1 place for prostitution(which is still going on big time) and we don't want that kind of worldwide picture or us. Also a #1 place to "steal" a bride because - going back to your statement, our girl are HAWT!:) Now, it is a known around the world fact that Slavic girls are super beautiful and maybe #1 in the world although STILL "no our show" on the Miss Universe as to the latest....always those stupid American b*tches with fake boobs and 3 kg or make up.:ohno:


back to topic: Nice photo's there, Bohdan Astro! Thanks! I just wish the stadium is soon or at least starts to change it self look...just kinda worried by always seeing that same grey half destroyed look...

Regarding NSK 'Olimpiyskyi', will the existing stand be demolished or it will stay, how should it be, because it's a long time the look of the site hasn't changed that much..?

Regarding NSK 'Olimpiyskyi', will the existing stand be demolished or it will stay, how should it be, because it's a long time the look of the site hasn't changed that much..?

NSK is under renovation, not under demolition and construction :)
Actually, the stand is seriously changed using three yellow KB-674 cranes. At present they start dismantling of these cranes, because on January the start of roof mounting is planed.

It's changed a lot, the entire lower tier was demolished and new one constructed, and all the outside underground works are virtually complete, getting ready to the roof installation.

Wroclaw:

Stadium + city center + A8 Wrocław Motorway Bypass

http://www.slaskwroclaw.pl/files/ftp/GRAFIKA/wizualizacja_4.jpg

Project of a shopping mall, that will be constructed right next to Wroclaw's new stadium. Mall itself will be worth €150 million and by size it's going to be second biggest in Wroclaw. Lions share of the profit that mall will generate, will be invested in Slask Wroclaw FC. Wroclaw's new stadium will become it's home stadium.

http://www.slaskwroclaw.pl/files/ftp/GRAFIKA/wizualizacja_4.jpg

http://www.slaskwroclaw.pl/files/ftp/GRAFIKA/wizualizacja_3.jpg

http://www.slaskwroclaw.pl/files/ftp/GRAFIKA/wizualizacja_2.jpg

Wow beautiful mall :)

Nice very nice, some of these club sides in Poland are going to end up with some killer venues out of all of this.

Regarding NSK 'Olimpiyskyi', will the existing stand be demolished or it will stay, how should it be, because it's a long time the look of the site hasn't changed that much..?

You can observe in real time most construction works at NSK 'Olimpiyskyi' using webcams at

http://video.untc.net/euro-2012/en/

Wroclaw:

Stadium + city center + A8 Wrocław Motorway Bypass

http://www.slaskwroclaw.pl/files/ftp/GRAFIKA/wizualizacja_4.jpg

This shopping mall looks better than stadium itself ;)

Damn, that's going to be a magnificent palce! With such beautiful projects integrated in a whole complex Poland will have one of the nicest looking sports facilities! :)

Yeah WROCLAW. I have to say it looks well amazing. I wish we had something similiar in Gdansk...:banana:

"By re-refined data, it became known that the distribution of tickets for matches of European Football Championship 2012 will begin a year before the Championship – in the spring of 2011. This was announced today at a meeting with journalists in Donetsk, who arrived here to participate in the presentation of the EURO-2012 CEO of Euro 2012 in Ukraine Markiyan Lubkivsky.

According to him, the price of tickets for matches of the Championship in Poland, that Ukraine will be the same. They will be distributed via the Internet. Order they can be on the site of UEFA. The very cost of tickets has not been named."

^^ Engrish or Yoda-Engrish.

DELETE

Rather Google-translate engrish :lol:. Or googlish? Speak you googlish? No? :hammer:

Rather Google-translate engrish :lol:. Or googlish? Speak you googlish? No? :hammer:Or not.........

http://eurochamp2012.com/2009/12/news-about-tickets-for-euro-2012/

Oh yeah, this IS definitely googlish :lol:. The website looks like made of some cheap template, so the translation is cheap too ;)

Or not.........

http://eurochamp2012.com/2009/12/news-about-tickets-for-euro-2012/

Ok, it's clear with tickets. Now, what will be with the draw of the national teams?

A good photo, unfortunately just in ukrainian:

http://vmestoslov.info/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/euro_2012.jpg

^^ Cheap propaganda of Ukrainian dreamers

^^ Unfortunately I must agree... Prices of stadiums seems to be ok, but I have doubts about the roads... 15-25 bilion EUROs?! :nuts: :D good joke... I suppose its something about half of Ukraines budget... ;)

yup. Roads are still in "unknown" status...sadly but true.:(

Well, as with the hotel lack list, that is probably true.. It really does seem so, though I think Kyiv has the most quantity of them, thus the deficit should be times less.. It's a pity Kyiv Olympic and Kharkiv Metalist stadiums are not presented in their true appearance on the map.. :ohno:

NSC "Olimpiyskyi", Kyiv

New photos from AnatoliyKiev

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/4100/bohdan-astro.1d/0_21762_6c4f3456_XL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/bohdan-astro/view/137058/)
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/4007/bohdan-astro.1d/0_21763_abc78fc2_XL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/bohdan-astro/view/137059/)
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/4011/bohdan-astro.1d/0_21764_fd80b8c7_XL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/bohdan-astro/view/137060/)
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/4105/bohdan-astro.1d/0_21765_f98591cf_XL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/bohdan-astro/view/137061/)
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/4010/bohdan-astro.1d/0_21767_4693f89d_XL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/bohdan-astro/view/137063/)
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/4106/bohdan-astro.1d/0_2176b_efadd586_XL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/bohdan-astro/view/137067/)
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/4104/bohdan-astro.1d/0_2176d_f6c62d67_XL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/bohdan-astro/view/137069/)
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/4114/bohdan-astro.1d/0_21770_82c57623_XL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/bohdan-astro/view/137072/)

Does anyone know the status of hotels in Polish host cities, such as current number of 5,4,3-star, in construction and planned? Thanks.

Does anyone know the status of hotels in Polish host cities, such as current number of 5,4,3-star, in construction and planned? Thanks.

Wrocław:

currently:
http://www.e2012.eu/admin/dbFiles/fileFileTable/48_.jpg

u/c:
http://www.e2012.eu/admin/dbFiles/fileFileTable/50_.jpg

Warsaw:

11 - *****
12 - ****
16 - ***
10 - **

Poznań:

02 - *****
12 - ****
26 - ***
06 - **

Gdańsk (Tricity):

06 - *****
09 - ****
25 - ***
10 - **

http://www.booking.com/index.html?aid=311264;label=warsaw-Qus1DDL0o8QhsxgdUs6nrgS2513382163;sid=e325ca79b78a367cdd6dc3c5d75eba2e

New Hilton in Wroclaw looks pretty cool...

^ It does? So, why don't you share that vision with us? And maybe there could come some features regarding Ukrainian host cities' hotel quantity? :)

Wrocław stadium:

http://2012.wroc.pl/galerie/4b2b574a/4b2b6f23.jpg

http://2012.wroc.pl/galerie/4b2b574a/4b2b6f24.jpg

http://2012.wroc.pl/galerie/4b2b574a/4b2b6f36.jpg

http://2012.wroc.pl/galerie/4b2b574a/4b2b6f42.jpg

Wrocław airport:

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/8422/p1190328.jpg

A8 Wrocław bypass:

http://www.prw.pl/img/attachments/800_1261086512.JPG

http://www.prw.pl/img/attachments/800_1261086534.JPG

http://www.prw.pl/img/attachments/800_1261086577.JPG

http://www.prw.pl/img/attachments/800_1261086615.JPG

http://www.prw.pl/img/attachments/800_1261086706.JPG

Wrocław Tram+ (to the stadium)

http://wroclaw.hydral.com.pl/foto/306/306083.jpg

http://wroclaw.hydral.com.pl/foto/306/306087.jpg

http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/5135/dsc01641oz.jpg

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/8498/dsc01643jh.jpg

http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/6789/dsc01644o.jpg

http://wroclaw.hydral.com.pl/foto/305/305154.jpg

So Wroclaw will have one new tram line more, great! Though, as I remember, Wroclaw tram infrastructure needs to be completely modernised both the tracks and the trams themselves cos what I've seen there were just some really outdated cars, hope they will purchase new ones!

Its great to see Poland as the largest construction site in Europe. When you drive or travel around the country it is really noticeable ! Wroclaw is quite impressive, lots of work in progress :-)

So Wroclaw will have one new tram line more, great! Though, as I remember, Wroclaw tram infrastructure needs to be completely modernised both the tracks and the trams themselves cos what I've seen there were just some really outdated cars, hope they will purchase new ones!Actaully, Wroclaw have already bought alot of new Skoda trams like 2 or 3 years ago...And the contract, also with Skoda for another ~25 new trams was already signed this year...So maybe you meant outdated = looking like a crap (because it's skoda :P), then yes...

And here's a small article about a new trams in polish cities:

Rekordowa liczba nowoczesnych tramwajów wjeżdża do naszych miast

Prawie 300 nowoczesnych tramwajów za 2,5 mld zł zamówiły w tym roku polskie miasta - informuje "Gazeta Wyborcza".


Tak gigantyczny rozwój jest związany z napływającymi unijnymi dotacjami. W Programie Operacyjnym Infrastruktura i Środowisko na projekty związane z transportem miejskim w dziewięciu obszarach metropolitalnych (katowickim, trójmiejskim, warszawskim, wrocławskim, toruńsko-bydgoskim, łódzkim, krakowskim, szczecińskim i poznańskim) do wzięcia jest ponad 2 mld zł. Co najmniej drugie tyle do dotacji muszą dołożyć samorządy co daje rynek wartości 5-6 mld zł, z czego ogromna część pójdzie na projekty tramwajowe - budowę nowych linii i zakup nowoczesnego taboru - podaje "Gazeta".

Według "GW" do Euro 2012 w polskich metropoliach przybędzie kilkaset nowoczesnych niskopodłogowych tramwajów.

Źródło Gazeta Wyborcza

Poland has been the largest construction site in Europe for many years :cheers:

You know I lived in Canada for most of my life and moved back to Poland six months ago, what kills me the most is the pessimism that people possess. Most people in Poland fail to realize or even notice how quickly their nations is moving forward!

You know I lived in Canada for most of my life and moved back to Poland six months ago, what kills me the most is the pessimism that people possess. Most people in Poland fail to realize or even notice how quickly their nations is moving forward!

pessimism is polish national tradition, no matter how well its going, we always whine.

You know I lived in Canada for most of my life and moved back to Poland six months ago, what kills me the most is the pessimism that people possess. Most people in Poland fail to realize or even notice how quickly their nations is moving forward!Especially, comaring Poland from 1989 to Poland 2009, taking into consideration that it's one of the biggest and one of the most densely populated places in Europe...

You know I lived in Canada for most of my life and moved back to Poland six months ago, what kills me the most is the pessimism that people possess. Most people in Poland fail to realize or even notice how quickly their nations is moving forward!

i too live in Canada, and i know lots of people that went to Poland and after a couple of years returned. it turned out that Poland was not the land of milk and honey they thought it was.

^^ They had too big expectations:

GDP (nominal) per capita
Canada 45,085
Poland 13,846

But J@nek wrote about moving forward, not about milk and honey ;)

So Wroclaw will have one new tram line more, great! Though, as I remember, Wroclaw tram infrastructure needs to be completely modernised both the tracks and the trams themselves cos what I've seen there were just some really outdated cars, hope they will purchase new ones!

Wrocław in this year bought 12 Protram trams:

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/7871/wroclaw2.jpg

also bought 28 new "tramwaj plus" manufactured by Skoda which will be delivered by 2011.

http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/2/6241/z6241482X.jpg

^^ They had too big expectations:

GDP (nominal) per capita
Canada 45,085
Poland 13,846

But J@nek wrote about moving forward, not about milk and honey ;)

Im not sure where you got your data, but I think the figures are closer to canada 35 000 $ and Poland around 20 000 $. Hopefully within 5-10 years it will be more like 35 000 an 25 000 - 27 000 :cheers:

Im not sure where you got your data, but I think the figures are closer to canada 35 000 $ and Poland around 20 000 $. Hopefully within 5-10 years it will be more like 35 000 an 25 000 - 27 000 :cheers:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)_per_capita

Some newly opened roads:

A1 in Silesia:

http://i900.photobucket.com/albums/ac208/bregus/P1140312.jpg?t=1261772725

http://i900.photobucket.com/albums/ac208/bregus/P1140314.jpg?t=1261772726

http://i900.photobucket.com/albums/ac208/bregus/P1140315.jpg?t=1261772729

http://i900.photobucket.com/albums/ac208/bregus/P1140316.jpg?t=1261772732

http://i900.photobucket.com/albums/ac208/bregus/P1140319.jpg?t=1261772738

http://i900.photobucket.com/albums/ac208/bregus/P1140322.jpg?t=1261772741

http://i900.photobucket.com/albums/ac208/bregus/P1140323.jpg?t=1261772741

http://i900.photobucket.com/albums/ac208/bregus/P1140326.jpg?t=1261772743

http://i900.photobucket.com/albums/ac208/bregus/P1140328.jpg?t=1261772744

and covered under snow S10:

http://www.fileagent.co.uk/images/uw6aaxt3difv3mso80ye.jpg

http://i1.fmix.pl/fmi231/a04a92f7001425e74b2ff4dc

http://i2.fmix.pl/fmi868/c0854f1600158b1b4b2ff4ed

http://i3.fmix.pl/fmi2267/dd55ed430008757a4b2ff4fe

http://i3.fmix.pl/fmi2445/cc8dc157000f8ae84b2ff50e

http://www.fothost.pl/upload/09/52/957db14b.jpg

http://www.fothost.pl/upload/09/52/37be5da7.jpg

http://www.fothost.pl/upload/09/52/b84bb56a.jpg

:nuts:

One thing is for sure ,,,, maybe the highways in Canada have more lanes .... but you will never find a highway of such high quality ... such high standards as in the EU. Polska to Przyszłość .... its where its at! :banana::banana:

So Wroclaw will have one new tram line more, great! Though, as I remember, Wroclaw tram infrastructure needs to be completely modernised both the tracks and the trams themselves cos what I've seen there were just some really outdated cars, hope they will purchase new ones!

It had changed a lot since last few years. Right now, the modern trams are more frequent than the old ones. ;)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)_per_capita

Why nominal? For comparison better is GDP PPP (purchase power parity), which takes into consideration the real value of money. Then: Poland 17989$, Canada 38290$. Source: IMF, Oct. 2009

Well, yeah, can't disagree about the quality of highway roads in Poland - they are just the best European-standard IMO, really like their appearance! :)

^^ They had too big expectations:

GDP (nominal) per capita
Canada 45,085
Poland 13,846

But J@nek wrote about moving forward, not about milk and honey ;)

lots of young people my age mid 20s are heading back. I've considered it too, but only if my career takes me there.

Several weeks ago we were talking about the biggest intersection in Europe in Sośnica-Gliwice (~200mln E). Now it is partly opened with 15km A1 motorway (~240mln E). Another parts of A1 in Silesian region are being built and will be finished before 2012.
But there are 2 problems:
1. Czech Republic delays their part of A1 motorway
2. Alpine Bau (Austrian company) lost their contract (about 250 mln Euro) of one part of A1 motorway. They started in 2007 and the deadline is in January 2010. It is impossible to catch up a schedule because currently only 50% is builded. In April a new tender to finish their job will be announced. Hope, they will do their job better in Warszawa and Gdańsk.I remind that they are building stadiums in these cities

some photos: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=542716&page=334

New Hilton in Wroclaw looks pretty cool...

^ It does? So, why don't you share that vision with us? And maybe there could come some features regarding Ukrainian host cities' hotel quantity? :)

Well, I am not really sure which one you are thinking about. Supposedly about this one (5 stars):

http://architektura.muratorplus.pl/zdjecia/Hilton_z_zewnatrz_big.jpg

http://architektura.muratorplus.pl/zdjecia/Hilton_ogrod_big.jpg

http://architektura.muratorplus.pl/zdjecia/Hilton_wnetrze2_big.jpg

Unless He though about this one, there is also the other Hilton planned (4 stars):

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_oqbRmRY70A0/SyoUth0sHHI/AAAAAAAAAcQ/zJ-QuzX4bZU/Centrum%20Metropol%2C%20Hilton%20Garden%20Inn_widok%201.jpg

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_oqbRmRY70A0/SyoUt6TL1oI/AAAAAAAAAcU/H96nLDqjMRA/Centrum%20Metropol%2C%20Hilton%20Garden%20Inn_widok%202.jpg

Both are going to be finished by 2012 ;)

Wroclaw has got it going on... nice

What a beauty those hotels are :)

http://www.kyivpost.com/engine/templates/kyivpost/i/logo.jpg

Another ten kilometers of the Kyiv-Moscow highway renovated

http://www.kyivpost.com/data/thumbs/262/197/P/iblock/articles/55980/32.jpg

A section of the highway between Kyiv and Moscow has been commissioned in Sumy province in the framework of the preparations for the Euro 2012 European football championship, Anatoliy Verbovyk, chief of the motor roads service in Sumy province has said.

According to him, ten kilometers of the road, running from Chernihiv province to the town of Krolevets, Sumy province, were commissioned on time and meet international standards.

The repairs of a 100-km section of the Kyiv-Moscow international highway connecting the towns of Kipti, Hlukhiv and Bachevsk in Sumy province started in 2007. A total of UAH 1 billion is to be assigned for the repairs from the state budget. This year UAH 62 million have been provided, most of which has already been spent.

Link (http://www.kyivpost.com/news/nation/detail/55980/)


http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_gvethXaaw24/Rs1Kr03M4hI/AAAAAAAAAEc/ep9Bbmm5v_Q/s400/E+ROAD+single+101.png

http://www.kyivpost.com/engine/templates/kyivpost/i/logo.jpg

Planning council approves redevelopment of Troitsky square

http://www.kyivpost.com/data/thumbs/262/197/P/iblock/articles/55950/55.jpg
Kyiv's architectural and town-planning council has approved and recommended proposals of a complex redevelopment of the Troitskly square in front of the Olympiysky National Sports Complex in Kyiv.

Kyiv's architectural and town-planning council has approved and recommended proposals of a complex redevelopment of the Troitskly square in front of the Olympiysky National Sports Complex in Kyiv taking into account all remarks at its sitting.

The main construction department of Kyiv City Administration ordered the project. According to the concept, there will be exits from the underground trade center, exit and entry roads from an underground parking area, as well as small pavilions with terraces with plants and fountains along the exit and entry roads to the underground area. The system of lights to highlight the square and the stadium, as well as information or video display in front of the Sport Hotel, is also foreseen by the concept.

Vasyl Prysiazhniuk, the chief architect of the Kyiv Planning and Architecture Center, proposed to place a big video display to broadcast Euro-2012 football matches.

Link (http://www.kyivpost.com/news/city/detail/55950/)

Respect to Poland! I am from Switzerland and think Poland looks great. The streets everything...

Oh, cool, a very needed highway stretch for Ukraine, connecting Kyiv with Russian border in Moscow direction! Is it just a highway, like the main state road, or it is even upgraded to 2x2 standards?

Kilka zdjęć od Marka Kaczmarczyka:
Photos by Marek Kaczmarczyk:
http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/9785/20091227stamie147.jpg

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/1021/20091227stamie134.jpg

http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/6516/20091227stamie128.jpg

http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/5453/20091227stamie121.jpg

http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/2276/20091227stamie116.jpg

Urban transport in Poznań:

40 new Solaris Tramino:

http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/7/7141/z7141837X.jpg

http://img.auto.cz/news.pl/img/art/6_4aec0207badf7.jpg

75 new Solaris Urbino:

http://www.flota.com.pl/cms/content/repository/images/zdjecia/2009/05-09/solaris_5000.jpg

http://www.solarisbus.pl/files/busmania/aktualnosci/solaris_urbino_18_hybrid_poznan.jpg

A2 motorway, Świecko (German border) - Nowy Tomyśl (direction to Poznań)

http://i685.photobucket.com/albums/vv215/esce_album/A2/15-12-2009/10.jpg

http://i685.photobucket.com/albums/vv215/esce_album/A2/15-12-2009/38.jpg

http://i685.photobucket.com/albums/vv215/esce_album/A2/15-12-2009/54.jpg

http://i685.photobucket.com/albums/vv215/esce_album/A2/15-12-2009/15.jpg

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/204/p1010064z.jpg

Article about ukrainian motorways in polish:

http://gospodarka.gazeta.pl/gospodarka/1,33181,7402254,_Dielo___miliard_hrywien_za_7_8_km_drog.html

no good :(

Maybe I'll translate a part of it:
Ukrain public company "Ukrautodor" had built only 7.8 km in the past 11 months paying around 110 mln USD
"I'm surprised about this" writes dziennik. "The government promised to build 341,7 km of new roads in this year. Now we have 44 times less then the promise"
It can be easily count, that every km of those roads cost 14,3 mln USD.
Gurżos's men explained, that THEY THINK, that in 110 mln USD were also included the costs of other U/C roads that aren't finished yet
:ohno:

http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/9785/20091227stamie147.jpg

This side of the stadium looks awesome :)

Also the new Tramino trams look great ;)

Yeah, Tramino is the sexiest tram ever, proud its Polish :cheers:

I can't wait to see those new trams on the streets of Poznan :-)
When are they being delivered? The stadium I walk by everyday, it is an impressive construction site. Can't wait to go see a Lech game once its completed as well :banana:

Hi guys,

can you maye post the new airports, hotels , metros/railways, squares/parks of your city.
are most of them are built because of the EURO (investment boom)?

Hi guys,

can you maye post the new airports, hotels , metros/railways, squares/parks of your city.
are most of them are built because of the EURO (investment boom)?

this 188 page thread is littered with such photos.