What black spots ? These terminals are in addition to already existing modern terminals.

exactly, existing terminals are modern, we are improving whats already good.

Yeah, Tramino is the sexiest tram ever, proud its Polish :cheers:

Stop the nonsense. It has multiple nationality, and if you come from e.g. Łomża, chance is you have nothing to do with it.

Besides, you're trying to cash on other people's success.

Stop the nonsense. It has multiple nationality, and if you come from e.g. Łomża, chance is you have nothing to do with it.

Besides, you're trying to cash on other people's success.

:weird:

Update from Lwów. The construction of the stadium has come to a complete halt unfortunately as there are issues with the project/design documentations apparently.

Also, the planned passennger terminal may not be built either:ohno:
There is talk that a temporary LCC terminal will be sufficient for the EURO.

Photos available in the Ukrainian section of Skyscrapers, link:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=741206&page=13

It is really sad to say, but after teh EURO was awarded to Lwów, the city seems to be going through many problems with preparation works.:bash:

And good. U may play nice here talking "Oh so sad, u'll make it, good work out there" but in fact most ppl in Poland just waiting when UEFA announce that Lviv will loose it for kraków or more games take place in Poland. Its real life. Sad.

And good. U may play nice here talking "Oh so sad, u'll make it, good work out there" but in fact most ppl in Poland just waiting when UEFA announce that Lviv will loose it for kraków or more games take place in Poland. Its real life. Sad.

Lets hope on the best from both sides.

Update from Lwów. The construction of the stadium has come to a complete halt unfortunately as there are issues with the project/design documentations apparently.

Also, the planned passennger terminal may not be built either:ohno:
There is talk that a temporary LCC terminal will be sufficient for the EURO.

Photos available in the Ukrainian section of Skyscrapers, link:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=741206&page=13

It is really sad to say, but after teh EURO was awarded to Lwów, the city seems to be going through many problems with preparation works.:bash:

they're saying the construction will start up again on february 25. heres an article
http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http://2012ua.net/news/lvivska_vlada_ne_mae_sumniviv_v_tomu_shho_roboti_z_budivnictva_stadionu_vidnovljatsja_25_ljutogo/2010-02-23-4455&sl=uk&tl=en

Hi to everybody,

I was taking a look in internet, and it seems that the construction of the train terminal in the airport of Balice is going on. Does anybody knows who is the constructor? and the arquitect?

Regarding to the glowny central station, is it just an upgrading of the central station or is it a new terminal developement?

Thank you for your collaboration

regards

Time to start building the NEW PASSENGER TERMINAL IN GDAŃSK!
:banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:

Drugi terminal w Rębiechowie czas budować
mj, mt, d2010-02-24, ostatnia aktualizacja 2010-02-24 12:55

Władze gdańskiego lotniska podpisały w środę umowę z konsorcjum firm Budimex i Doraco na budowę terminalu w Rębiechowie

- W tym momencie ucinamy wszelkie spekulacje. W Gdańsku na Euro 2012 będzie gotowy nowy terminal - powiedział podczas uroczystości Mieczysław Struk, marszałek województwa pomorskiego.

Przypomnijmy, konsorcjum wygrało przetarg proponując 153 mln netto zł za wykonanie inwestycji. Od tej decyzji, zarzucając jej niedociągnięcia proceduralne, odwołał się Warbud, którego oferta była druga w kolejności. Władze lotniska odrzuciły protest, więc Warbud skierował sprawę do Krajowej Izby Odwoławczej. Ta w połowie stycznia podtrzymała decyzję lotniska, dzięki czemu możliwe było rozpoczęcie obligatoryjnej kontroli procedury przetargowej przez Urząd Zamówień Publicznych. Po niej można było podpisać umowę.

Terminal ma zwiększyć przepustowość lotniska z 2,5 mln pasażerów rocznie do 5 mln.

W styczniu władze Rębiechowa podpisały umowę z wykonawcą drogi kołowania. Koszt tej inwestycji to 45 mln zł, a budowa ma potrwać 16 miesięcy. - Droga kołowania wraz z nowym terminalem pasażerskim oraz dwoma płytami postojowymi to strategiczne elementy infrastruktury naszego lotniska, które przygotują port na przyjęcie rzeszy kibiców piłkarskich w 2012 roku - podkreśla Włodzimierz Machczyński, prezes Portu Lotniczego Gdańsk.

W marcu ma się rozpocząć trzecia inwestycja na lotniku - budowa nowej płyty postojowej.

Głównymi właścicielami lotniska są Przedsiębiorstwo Państwowe Porty Lotnicze, które posiada 36,6 proc. udziałów, Gdańsk z 31,4 proc. oraz województwo pomorskie - 30,4 proc. udziałów.


Źródło: Gazeta Wyborcza Trójmiasto

Currently, the following airports have terminal buildings under construction:

Warsaw
Wroclaw
Lodz
Gdansk

In 2010, the following will join the group:

Modlin
Krakow
Rzeszow
Poznan
:cheers:

^ Not bad! :banana: Mainly all the major Polish cities!
Will any Ukrainian city have a train connection with their airports?

:weird:

Allow me to elaborate then. You are "proud its Polish", but it's not. It comes from a certain place in Poland, and unless you're from there, you have no right to be proud of it.

Visualization of the new Terminal in Gdańsk:
http://www.trojmiasto.pl/zdj_wym.phtml?url_zdjecie=http://img.trojmiasto.pl/zdj/fotki_duze/30000/z30042.jpg

More here:

http://galeria.trojmiasto.pl/Nowy-terminal-w-Rebiechowie-od-dzis-za-dwa-lata-n37182.html

Wrocław Bypass A8 Highway

http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/4/7597/m7597574.jpg

This bypass will have Poland's highest bridge pillers (120 meters high) as visible on the visualization. The bypass will run right next to the Wrocław Stadium. Construction works are advanced.

Finally last, but not least, I wanted to present another important Euro 2012 investment here in Poznań. The main street (ul. Bukowska) which connects the Poznań airport with the Stadium as well as the city center is being rebuilt. Currently there is a single lane in each direction, once the investment is completed in 2011, there will be 2 ... in some spots 3 lanes in each direction (east-west). This is a very important investment in Poznań for the Euro 2012.

Today has been a good day with respect to important invesments here in Poland. First, the Gdańsk terminal, then the initiation of works on the highway which connects Lodz and Warsaw (A2 Highway) and a very imprtant, multi-level roundabout in Krakow (Rondo Ofiar Katynia) - all got a green light!

Lets hope we see many days like today in 2010 here in PL!! :-)

PS. Sorry for going a bit too far with the message posting today, but I hope you guys don't mind!
Cheers!

Here is the topic discussing the Wrocław bridge:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=632034

Looks awesome by the way :)

Allow me to elaborate then. You are "proud its Polish", but it's not. It comes from a certain place in Poland, and unless you're from there, you have no right to be proud of it.

Sorry for OT but that's so funny. I guess Poznan is not polish city and therefore all products made there are not polish products. Is that what you mean? pathetic....

BTW love Wroclaw's bridge, adds modern look to usually borig motorway.

Allow me to elaborate then. You are "proud its Polish", but it's not. It comes from a certain place in Poland, and unless you're from there, you have no right to be proud of it.

It comes from a certain factory in a certain place and unless you own the factory, you have no right to be proud of it.

BTW love Wroclaw's bridge, adds modern look to usually borig motorway.
stop it!You can't love Wrocław's bridge, because this bridge'll be in Wrocław, and you are from Warsaw!:hammer::crazy:

And BTW do you know how the football fan's area will look like and where it will be in Warsaw? Under PKiN or somewhere else?

Hmm, unbelieveable to see all these potential improvements being implemented in such big amounts all over Poland in these hard times! Respect to your overment, right way to develop in spite of all the crisises, although you don't have it! :)

Demag CC2800-1 boom lifting at NSC "Olimpiyskyi" (Kyiv). This crane will be used for roof construction.
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And BTW do you know how the football fan's area will look like and where it will be in Warsaw? Under PKiN or somewhere else?

http://m.onet.pl/_m/cc35fffba4a5a6617da8e5d829b061bf,34,1.jpg

http://www.tvnwarszawa.pl/28415,1643732,0,1,w_tych_miejscach_zobaczysz_mecze_euro_2012,wiadomosc.html

Warsaw [by Polex]

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/9750/paanor4.jpg

http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/4315/paanor1.jpg

^ Just stunning!! What a speed! It seems they are even in front of the schedule! :)

del

Poznan:

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/1720/picture010aa.jpg

http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/6126/64717476.jpg

Gdansk by elpolako

http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/2449/img3629panorama.jpg

Poznan stad looks huge! Would become a very remarkable landmark of the city!!

26 new trainsets on order (tender has just been announced) by Greater Poland railways. Delivery in 2011, 2012 and 2013. Cost around 150 milion dollars. They will serve Poznan and vicinity.

26 new trainsets on order (tender has just been announced) by Greater Poland railways. Delivery in 2011, 2012 and 2013. Cost around 150 milion dollars. They will serve Poznan and vicinity.

Are there any pictures of the trains?

^^
Can you read?
(tender has just been announced)

Polish stadiums are nicely taking shape! :cheers:

Poznan is awesome. The steep stands are reminiscent of classic English stadiums and the roof looks awesome as well.

Gdansk:


wklejając czyjeś zdjęcia, wypadałoby podać ich źródło i autora.

Are there any club acadimies in Poland? Does Wisla, Lech or Legia have any? If they do can someone post some pics?

Why are we posting pictures from Lviv when nothing has changed for months now

Poznan is awesome. The steep stands are reminiscent of classic English stadiums and the roof looks awesome as well.

Two more from above:

http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/7838/srg0104.jpg

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/9900/srg0153.jpg

wklejając czyjeś zdjęcia, wypadałoby podać ich źródło i autora.

sorry.

fine

http://stadion.lviv.ua/ua/item/1#cam
http://www.azovintex.com/cam/cam.jpg

Gdańsk by elpolako

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_6LKpBOuTcu4/S445k7giyiI/AAAAAAAANJ8/GoJgehMc7cc/IMG_4050.JPG
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_6LKpBOuTcu4/S445rTUI_EI/AAAAAAAANKM/312f2SWQBH0/IMG_4056.JPG
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_6LKpBOuTcu4/S445zN4uFTI/AAAAAAAANKc/QxztUIsZwo8/IMG_4063.JPG
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_6LKpBOuTcu4/S446BFlzOtI/AAAAAAAANK8/3-ZGUxqRupU/IMG_4080.JPG

Gdansk is also increasing its temps, great to see all that, just feel pride for Poland! :)

what about Wroclaw?

Nothing really happens there atm, as they are just preparing for work :banana:

what about Wroclaw?

actually AFAIK they finished preparking and they started working on the main part of stadium, in the near future there will be more and more workers.

Great to hear that Wroclaw still has very good chances!! :)

Great to hear that Wroclaw still has very good chances!! :)

I'm quite sure it has 100% chances.

http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/7838/srg0104.jpg


:eek::master:

It will be one of the best stadiums for Euro 2012 :cheers:

^^^ All Polish stadiums fro Euro 2012 will be among the best (if not the best) in Europe :cheers:

^ I bet they would be the very most..whatever in Central/Eastern Europe. But don't try to put forward them on Western European level as it's senseless to compare that f.i. with 'Old Trafford', 'Camp Nou', 'Stade de France' and dozens of others which are doubtless the destinations of football fans' pilgrimage!

^ I bet they would be the very most..whatever in Central/Eastern Europe. But don't try to put forward them on Western European level as it's senseless to compare that f.i. with 'Old Trafford', 'Camp Nou', 'Stade de France' and dozens of others which are doubtless the destinations of football fans' pilgrimage!

Polish stadia will be classified as "elite". Right now there are only 20 such stadia in the whole world.

^ I bet they would be the very most..whatever in Central/Eastern Europe. But don't try to put forward them on Western European level as it's senseless to compare that f.i. with 'Old Trafford', 'Camp Nou', 'Stade de France' and dozens of others which are doubtless the destinations of football fans' pilgrimage!

Are you joking? Old Trafford, Camp Nou are old stadiums and their technical achievements are prehistoric comparing to Warsaw National Stadium, PGE Arena or Wrocław stadium. Stade de France is also not a good example of football stadium, it's much better for athletics

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Has anything changed in Kiev? It looks the same like it was 3 months ago.

^ I bet they would be the very most..whatever in Central/Eastern Europe. But don't try to put forward them on Western European level as it's senseless to compare that f.i. with 'Old Trafford', 'Camp Nou', 'Stade de France' and dozens of others which are doubtless the destinations of football fans' pilgrimage!

^^
Typical case of Eastern European man with Western European complex. As someone said - both Polish and most part of Ukrainian stadiums on Euro will be on the top world level and that's fact proved by many parts from design of our stadiums, e.g. try to show me the retractable roof or car park under the pitch on 'Old Trafford' and 'Stade de France' or compare standard of seats from those two stadia with seats from Warsaw's stadium:

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/990/pc200296dx1.jpg

Or from other side - try to show me any things which stadiums in Wrocław, Gdańsk or Warsaw will have on lower standard than e.g. 'Old Trafford'.

^^
Atmosphere, prestige, football tradition

They have started putting on membrane in Poznań.

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/391/mem2d.jpg

http://stadion.lviv.ua/makethumb.php?pic=upload/pub/cam1/1267257544_70.jpg&w=560

Bombardier won a tender to supply Krakow with 24 low floor trams (Flexcity Classic). They will be delievered in 2012 and 2013 and will join the existing fleet of 50 Flexcity trams already operating in the city.

longer version, 32 meters.

something like this.

http://www.psmkms.krakow.pl/tramwaje/zagranica/lipsk3.jpg

...

lets stick to the subject of this thread and focus on host cities.

Delfin funny as always.

It's POLAND and UKRAINE preparations, not only host cities preparations

Delfin funny as always.

It's POLAND and UKRAINE preparations, not only host cities preparations

but what trams in Krakow have to do with EURO 2012 preparations?

but what trams in Krakow have to do with EURO 2012 preparations?

What do half of expressways U/C have to do with preparations ?

It's about improvement in transporation infrastructure in POLAND in general as many toruists will be travelling and staying not only in designated cities but all over Poland. Krakow being the most recognizeable and visited Polish city will no doubt see an influx of tourism pre and post Euro2012. So yes it is relevant.

What do half of expressways U/C have to do with preparations ?

It's about improvement in transporation infrastructure in POLAND in general as many toruists will be travelling and staying not only in designated cities but all over Poland. Krakow being the most recognizeable and visited Polish city will no doubt see an influx of tourism pre and post Euro2012. So yes it is relevant.

highways, rails are important, but presenting public transportation in all Polish cities including Grudziadz, Elblag (they also have new trams) is not the point of this thread. And I doubt football fans would go to Krakow which is pretty far from Warsaw, Wroclaw and Gdansk.

Actually, if you show the infrastructure improvements in host cities, it's cool, but unless that's not the city which will hold the games, please do that in other thread. Anything new happening with motorways maybe?

As always:) :
A map of preparations [from GDDKiA, http://www.gddkia.gov.pl/article/sprawdz_na_mapie_przygotowanie_drog_i_autostrad/index.php];
black-done
orange-u/c OR under design wiht "design&build" tender
green-tender
yellow-tender up to the end of 2010
white- planned
http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/6103/8a9674bf05d0da4a804af0f.jpg (http://img687.imageshack.us/i/8a9674bf05d0da4a804af0f.jpg/)
AND NOW:
A1 between Grudziadz and Torun [by : mareksaw cg]
http://www.sawistowski.net/prywatnie/a1/1402/most.jpg

http://www.sawistowski.net/prywatnie/a1/1402/p24.jpg

http://www.sawistowski.net/prywatnie/a1/1402/plac_skladowy.jpg

http://www.sawistowski.net/prywatnie/a1/1402/estakada_wschod.jpg

http://www.sawistowski.net/prywatnie/a1/1402/wytwornia_prawy.jpg
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A2 between PL/D border and Nowy Tomysl:[by kmieciu]
http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/2614/dsc02176g.jpg
To Poznan:
http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/6555/dsc02173x.jpg
Old german construction from 2ndWW:
http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/9595/dsc02148p.jpg
<<< Poznan - Swiecko[Border] >>>
http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/6411/dsc02145m.jpg
To Swiecko
http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/6138/dsc02055c.jpg
To Poznan:
http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/1462/dsc02094k.jpg

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/1787/dsc02095v.jpg
to be continued:)

To Swiecko:
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/1536/dsc02111p.jpg
To Poznan
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/3972/dsc02112g.jpg
<<<Poznan - Swiecko>>>
http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/4967/dsc02116qd.jpg
Just 10 km form PL/D border:
http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/4986/dsc01956k.jpg
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A2 Strykow-Konotopa[Lodz-Warsaw]:[by robo2k]
They're finishing the project, so nothing realy is seem on the place of the route, except they cut trees and demolished old bridges from 80s, so just 1 foto:
Middle pillars between A2 lanes near Zyrardow:
http://www.obwodnicazyrardowa.pl/gallery/default/e095c0c450fc17d940353369b15b0ab7.jpeg[/QUOTE]
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A4 Between Szarow and Tarnow:[by Lantash]
http://krteku.republika.pl/A4/pogladowka.jpg

http://krteku.republika.pl/A4/1.jpg

http://krteku.republika.pl/A4/1a.jpg

http://krteku.republika.pl/A4/1b.jpg

http://krteku.republika.pl/A4/1ca.jpg

http://krteku.republika.pl/A4/1cb.jpg

http://krteku.republika.pl/A4/2.jpg

http://krteku.republika.pl/A4/3.jpg
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A4 Between Rzeszow and Korczowa[PL/UA border][by tm78]
Radymno intersection:
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/1287/dsc00096h.jpg (http://img517.imageshack.us/i/dsc00096h.jpg/)

http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/122/dsc00097f.jpg (http://img294.imageshack.us/i/dsc00097f.jpg/)

http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/2208/dsc00098n.jpg (http://img717.imageshack.us/i/dsc00098n.jpg/)
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A6-no changes (till EURO I think)
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tbc:)

Very nice summary, but unfortunately I don't know such city.
As always:) :
A1 between Grudziac and Torun [by : mareksaw cg]

del

@Svercer: Jezu jaki głupi błąd:)

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A8 Wroclaw bypass:
7.03
Pylon of the Bridge on A8 - zdjęcia: jaxan z "hydrala"

http://wroclaw.hydral.com.pl/foto/316/316722.jpg

http://wroclaw.hydral.com.pl/foto/316/316724.jpg

pylon
http://wroclaw.hydral.com.pl/foto/316/316768.jpg

Estakada prawobrzeżna na polach irygacyjnych widziana od ulicy Piłkarzy[Right side estacade on [B][pole irygacyjne- plz help?] as seen from Pilkarzy street]
http://wroclaw.hydral.com.pl/foto/316/316764.jpg

Estakada prawobrzeżna na polach irygacyjnych
http://wroclaw.hydral.com.pl/foto/316/316773.jpg

Widok na podpory przy śluzie na Rędzinie.Tylko tyle pozostało do nasunięcia płyty estakady prawobrzeżnej[tu się poddałem z tłumaczeniem- help2?]
http://wroclaw.hydral.com.pl/foto/316/316772.jpg[/QUOTE]


http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/3554/dsc03989ib.jpg
By null (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/null), shot with DSC-H7 (http://profile.imageshack.us/camerabuy.php?model=DSC-H7&make=SONY) at 2010-03-03
http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/1802/dsc03990c.jpg
By null (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/null), shot with DSC-H7 (http://profile.imageshack.us/camerabuy.php?model=DSC-H7&make=SONY) at 2010-03-03
http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/1339/dsc03995.jpg
By null (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/null), shot with DSC-H7 (http://profile.imageshack.us/camerabuy.php?model=DSC-H7&make=SONY) at 2010-03-03

Nowy przebieg Szczecińskiej widok na północ

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/9508/dsc03992ia.jpg
By null (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/null), shot with DSC-H7 (http://profile.imageshack.us/camerabuy.php?model=DSC-H7&make=SONY) at 2010-03-03

A tu na południe

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/6392/dsc03991i.jpg
By null (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/null), shot with DSC-H7 (http://profile.imageshack.us/camerabuy.php?model=DSC-H7&make=SONY) at 2010-03-03
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/3415/dsc03993o.jpg
By null (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/null), shot with DSC-H7 (http://profile.imageshack.us/camerabuy.php?model=DSC-H7&make=SONY) at 2010-03-03
http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/853/dsc03994v.jpg
By null (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/null), shot with DSC-H7 (http://profile.imageshack.us/camerabuy.php?model=DSC-H7&make=SONY) at 2010-03-03
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/6457/dsc03996e.jpg
By null (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/null), shot with DSC-H7 (http://profile.imageshack.us/camerabuy.php?model=DSC-H7&make=SONY) at 2010-03-03
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A18:
Although the tender is officially open, some ecological formations blocked it because of making not as much of animal passages as they wnat to:(
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Maybe I'll add some major expressways on friday, so for some time this is the
END.

^ Terrific improvements! No wonder your GDP is growing! :)

The first column installation at NSC "Olimpiyskyi" (Kyiv, Ukraine):
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/3907/bohdan-astro.60/0_2990b_320286d3_XL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/bohdan-astro/view/170251/)
http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/3911/bohdan-astro.60/0_2990c_4ea3d71b_XL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/bohdan-astro/view/170252/)
Photos from tov_tob

New Terminal F in Borispil by sergienko:


http://www.avianews.com/photoreport/kbp_terminalf_inside/1a.jpg
http://www.avianews.com/photoreport/kbp_terminalf_inside/1b.jpg
Внутри
http://www.avianews.com/photoreport/kbp_terminalf_inside/4b.jpg
http://www.avianews.com/photoreport/kbp_terminalf_inside/7b.jpg
http://www.avianews.com/photoreport/kbp_terminalf_inside/9b.jpg
Привокзальная площадь
http://www.avianews.com/photoreport/kbp_terminalf_inside/10.jpg

Aeroport in Donetsk:


На стройплощадке нового терминала донецкого аэропорта кипит работа
http://ostro.org/frmtext/SOCIYM/VPP/0359.jpg

Подготовка к строительству фундаментной плиты
http://ostro.org/frmtext/SOCIYM/VPP/0381.jpg

Укрепление откосов котлована
http://ostro.org/frmtext/SOCIYM/VPP/0384.jpg

http://ostro.org/frmtext/SOCIYM/VPP/0385.jpg

Quicksilver, how about the Lviv airport? Did it stuck for long?

Quicksilver, how about the Lviv airport? Did it stuck for long?

Funny thing, they are doing something there but god knows what:

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Lets hope that after all Lviv will get that airport :)

Maybe I'll add some major expressways on friday...
I checked a few threads, but there aren't many pictures now (no pics from S3 Szczecin-Gorzow wlkp.; no pics of S7 Warsaw-Gdansk, S8 in Warsaw Konotopa-Powazkowska...)
I think that till end of march snow will melt (today it started falling again:ohno:), and some photos will show up:)

Lets hope that after all Lviv will get that airport :)

Thanks, I hope for this too!

13 new ELF trains from PESA to be delievered to SKM (Fast Urban Rail) in Warsaw. Trains will be used for city to airport connection. Same trains as recently ordered by KM (Mazovian Railways). Delivery by the second half of 2011. Contract amount is 299 milion PLN.

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Poznań:
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Emm, is it like Kyiv Olympic Stadium will be having those old stands? Aren't they going to be demolished?

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Emm, is it like Kyiv Olympic Stadium will be having those old stands? Aren't they going to be demolished?

the first tier was reconstructed. the second tier was refurbished.

^ Allright then, good to hear that! So, that means that already everything there is going only in increscent scale?

The second roof column at NSC "Olimpiyskyi" (Kyiv) was installed today:
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Warsaw:
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Investor in construction of Lviv airport terminal unlikely to be found soon

Today at 18:18 | Interfax-Ukraine

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Lviv, March 17 (Interfax-Ukraine) - An investor in the construction of a terminal at Lviv airport is unlikely to be found soon, according to Borys Kolesnikov, the vice premier for Ukraine's preparations for hosting the finals of the Euro 2012 European Football Championship.

"I want to say that we won't find an investor for Lviv airport soon. It is a state task to create conditions for Lviv to attract investment," he said at a press conference in Lviv.

In addition, Kolesnikov said that part of a highway from the state border to Lviv, the construction of which was planned on a concession basis, would be constructed using state funds.

"Concessioners have no money, and we won't wait [for them]," he said.

The vice premier said that "it is necessary to reconstruct the historic part of Lviv, create new tourism routes, construct a new runway at the airport" using state funds and then "ask why the national budget should subsidize you."

"Until we create a financial model for Lviv, through which it will be able to finance itself, no investors will come to the region," Kolesnikov said.

Link (http://www.kyivpost.com/news/business/bus_general/detail/61961/)

Far too late for such discussion in Lviv. Time for it was in 2007.

now move the new Terminal 2 in Gdansk :D

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Wroclaw is gradually restarting :cheers:
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So now we have all airports (with the exception of Poznań, which I work at :ohno: ) and all stadiums under construction in all Euro 2012 host cities!:banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:

Terminal F (airport Boryspil, Kiev, Ukraine )

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The new terminal of the Kharkiv airport ready for 70%

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Wow, Kharkiv is doing great job! I think this city is already the best-prepared city in Ukraine to hold the tournament! But Kyiv is not lagging behind as well with airport expansion, just nice to see all that! :banana:

Terminal D (airport Boryspil, Kiev, Ukraine )

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Reconstruction the Terminal B (airport Boryspil, Kiev, Ukraine )

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Gdańsk stadium

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Good job Gdańsk!

Warsaw nine-month progress:

20.06.2009:
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20.03.2010:
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Fantastic progress all round! Gdansk is flying along!

How do they manage to be SO quick in Gdansk?! Congrats! :)

Does anyone now if they will host in Chorzow?

No way

Even if Wrocław won't make it, I bet Cracow will be replacement, not Chorzow.

Everything is under control. There won't be any replacements. Wroclaw stadium probably will be finished in july 2011. One year before the tournament. We could see stadiums in South Africa, which weren't 100% done few monuth before WC and fifa was calm. So even if they will have some troubles, they will have enough reserves to make it on time.

So what city will host the final game?

Kiev.. all that would take is google, but you'd rather ask these dumb questions

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But i hope, that our workers will do own job in time.
Two days ago, workers in Lviv began working on stadium.

So can we be confident that since now works in Lviv wouldn't be on hold any more? Is that the new contractor was found?

Even if Wrocław won't make it, I bet Cracow will be replacement, not Chorzow.

The same as even if Gdańsk, or Poznan won't make it. Not only Wrocław.

But that is only an inmature discussion. There won't be any replacement. Chorzow's and Cracow's stadium will be great, but won't host euro anyway.

OK kal323Ci, don't give me a attitude

GDAŃSK:
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So can we be confident that since now works in Lviv wouldn't be on hold any more? Is that the new contractor was found?

Hard to answer the question.
New government. Contractor doesn't changed.
I think situation round stadium in Lviv - it's fighting between old government and new.
Election is behind. We will see what they ( new government) will do.
No body don't say why contractor doesn't build stadium last 1.5 years.
Some days ago government transferred part of money for building stadium in Lviv and for reconstraction the airport of Lviv.
Also looking for investors for ukrainian projects of Euro - 2012.
Today Ukraine have 3 problems area:
1. airport of Donetsk
2. airport of Lviv
3. stadium in Lviv

I think they not will change contractor (for Lviv stadium), they found of new investor (the owner of F.C. Karpaty Lviv)

We will see.

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UEFA: Kyiv will host Euro 2012 final

Today at 20:43 | Interfax-Ukraine

Kyiv will host the final match of the Euro 2012 European Football Championship despite a delay in the reconstruction of the Olympiysky National Sports Complex in the Ukrainian capital, UEFA Director for Euro 2012 Martin Kallen has said.

"I believe that the stadium in Kyiv will be completed on time. Perhaps, not in June 2011, but in July or August," the Internet edition www.2012ua.net quoted him as saying, with reference to Poland's Futbol News.

Link (http://www.kyivpost.com/news/nation/detail/62298/)

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"Depressing" Outlook as Euro 2012 Stadium Work Falls Five Months Behind

March 22, 2010

(WFI) Upgrades to Kiev’s Olympic Stadium, venue for the UEFA 2012 European Championship final, have fallen more than five months behind schedule, prompting Ukraine’s new cabinet to speak out on the delays.

Ukrainian sports minister Ravil Safiullin said the situation was “depressing”, but promised to do “everything possible” to speed up stadium preparations.

“Speaking about Olimpiysky National Sports Complex [Olympic Stadium], all the delegates who visited it with vice prime minister Borys Kolesnikov regard the situation as depressing," Safiullin was quoted by the state-owned Interfax news agency.

“[The project is] more than five months behind the schedule approved by the previous cabinet. There are problems."

The minister said that he intended to visit the complex this week.

"I am not a builder, I cannot say for sure, but we have to do everything possible to catch up with the delay, so that Euro 2012 will take place," he added.

Safiulin’s bleak outlook, voiced at a press conference on Friday, was echoed by Ukraine’s new Prime Minister Mykola Azarov, who on Saturday criticized Kiev's authorities and warned against possible radical measures.

"In my opinion, the authorities in the capital are not working," Azarov was quoted by the Russian news service, RIA Novosti.

Azarov said that Kiev officials must "either improve their work, or resign" but promised that the government will help the local authorities.

He singled out the city’s mayor Leonid Chernovetskiy for the poor condition of Kiev's roads, street lighting and waste disposal as well as water shortages, power cuts and traffic jams.

"How will Kiev host Euro 2012?" he asked.

UEFA considers downgrading Euro 2012 to six cities

After speculation throughout the latter part of last year that Ukraine would be stripped of the finals, criticism eased after UEFA president Michel Platini confirmed in December that all four Ukrainian cities slated to host Euro 2012 games will stage matches and that the final itself will follow in Kiev.

Speaking then at the UEFA Executive Committee meeting in Madeira, Platini praised the “enormous efforts and sacrifices” made by Ukraine and its co-host Poland to provide “a very impressive” basis for a tournament that promises “great things.”

But doubts about Ukraine’s readiness have resurfaced in recent weeks, with attention also focusing on the Polish city of Wroclaw.

Last week Martin Kallen, UEFA’s operating director for events, said that the tournament may only played in six host cities.

Citing construction delays in Wroclaw and Lviv in Ukraine, Kallen told a Polish football website that UEFA had formulated a “Plan B” to host Euro 2012 in just six cities.

"We're not very concerned about Wroclaw. Lviv is quite another matter. Much of the construction work is falling behind the schedule. There are problems with funding. It's time to act. Otherwise the stadium won't be completed on time," Kallen told futbolnews.pl in an interview that was quoted by Interfax.

He expressed hope that the stadia would be ready on time, and insisted that no final decision had yet been made.

Link (http://www.worldfootballinsider.com/Story.aspx?id=33110)

^^Even if they are considering 6 cities im sure Krakow and Chorzow will talk with UEFA in letting them get hosting rights. We should have just hosted this tournament on our own. We have more than enough stadiums and way better infrastrucutre. Thats just my 2 cents.

I think we should...hmmm have to do with Ukraine! And we definitely will do it together. We won to host the tournament due to them, so sincere thanks to Ukraine. And I know it's more difficult for them according to preparation than for us because of the economy but if you chop-chop everything's gonna be ok. Big faith in our neighbour :D

^^Even if they are considering 6 cities im sure Krakow and Chorzow will talk with UEFA in letting them get hosting rights. We should have just hosted this tournament on our own. We have more than enough stadiums and way better infrastrucutre. Thats just my 2 cents.

The decision to hold Euro-2012 in Ukraine is a political decision!
So, forget about 6 cities please.
Format the Euro-2012 is 4:4

^^Even if they are considering 6 cities im sure Krakow and Chorzow will talk with UEFA in letting them get hosting rights. We should have just hosted this tournament on our own. We have more than enough stadiums and way better infrastrucutre. Thats just my 2 cents.

Ehh, what's a idiotic statement. Do I have to to remind you, which country made such proposition organising euro?

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"Depressing" Outlook as Euro 2012 Stadium Work Falls Five Months Behind

March 22, 2010

(WFI) Upgrades to Kiev’s Olympic Stadium, venue for the UEFA 2012 European Championship final, have fallen more than five months behind schedule, prompting Ukraine’s new cabinet to speak out on the delays. ........ .

Link (http://www.worldfootballinsider.com/Story.aspx?id=33110)

New governman speaking wich was was bad and not efficacy old government.
Propaganda.

Poznań

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Warszawa

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Great aerial of Warsaw NS, I imagine how would that territory look awesome after it will have all other sporting infrastricitre completed! :cheers:

Wroclaw:

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^^Has the proper work actually started or is it still preparing the site for the new contractor?

NSC "Olimpiyskyi", Kyiv, Ukraine: third roof's column installation.
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Warsaw by Newcomers
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UEFA admits: we have a contingency plan

We believe that Ukraine make up for delays in the preparations for the European Football Championships in 2012, but it would be stupid, just in case we had no contingency plan - admitted quoted by Reuters, one of the members of the Executive Committee of UEFA.

On Wednesday evening and Thursday morning convened in Tel Aviv, the UEFA Executive Committee members, who include familiar the latest report on the state of preparations for the Polish and Ukrainian ME. The current situation presented to them the director UEFA Euro 2012 Martin Kallen.

Kallen few days ago, said that UEFA is ready for a situation that delays can not catch up. The contingency plan involves reducing the number of host cities of the tournament from eight to six, but not necessarily be shared between the two co-organizers.

"We believe that Ukraine will make up for delays in the preparations for the European Football Championships in 2012, but we would be foolish, just in case we had no contingency plan" - quoted by Reuters admitted a member of UEFA's Executive Committee. The Agency has identified problems with the preparations as a "nightmare frightens the authorities of European football."

Deputy Prime Minister of Ukraine Borys Kolesnikov, in the government responsible for preparing for Euro 2012, said Tuesday that the modernization of the stadium in Kiev - where the final tournament to be held - is burdened with a huge risk. He assured, however, that five-month delay is possible to catch up.

"The best solution would be demolition of the stadium in Kiev, and the construction of a new one. Now, however, is no longer possible" - Kolesnikov noted. Considerable delay on the Ukrainian side also includes the construction of a new facility in Lviv.

"Information about the possible restriction of the host cities would not be a sensation. Martin Kallen has long been noted that the next two months will be decisive for the success of certain investments. At that time, UEFA will closely monitor the situation and draw conclusions. The experts will focus primarily on monitoring progress in building a stadium in Lviv and Wroclaw. In both countries, the situation in those buildings is now the most difficult "- a company spokesman told PAP Euro 2012 in Poland, Juliusz Głuski.

On Thursday in Tel Aviv will start in UEFA's annual congress.

In December 2009, the UEFA has decided, as he stressed - in the end that football Championships in 2012 will be held in eight cities. In Kiev, Lviv, Kharkiv and Donetsk in Ukraine, and Poland in Warsaw, Wroclaw, Poznan and Gdansk.

source: PAP (Polish Press Agency), translation of the article: Google;)

DEL

New aerial photos from Poznan
fot. by Marek Kaczmarczyk

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First roof construction elements have just arrived in Gdansk:
- the short one is for the roof, the long one for the side wall (it will be installed in the ground outside the building), there will also come two more smaller linking parts.

All together there will be 82 such "pilars" - each weights 66 t.



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Do you remember what Warsawbynight told you some time ago about Kyiv Stadium? Now his words are becoming the reality

Do you remember what Warsawbynight tolad you some time ago about Kyiv Stadium? No his words are becoming the reality

what he said?

what he said?

That there is a lot of doubts that Kyiv Stadium will ever be finished

For me all those pumped problems over Ukrainian preparation works are rather speculations, taking into account that only Lviv is having serious problems, not Kyiv, that's for sure, it's a capital afterall!

For me all those pumped problems over Ukrainian preparation works are rather speculations, taking into account that only Lviv is having serious problems, not Kyiv, that's for sure, it's a capital afterall!

You will see that Lviv will have much more chances to finish the stadium than Kyiv. There is no open discussion about Kyiv Stadium, but i'm sure the problem sooner or later will come out. They don't know how to construct the roof of the stadium properly! As they admitted, it would be much better to construct a brand new stadium, but it's already too late for that.

And a few more from Gdansk:

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You will see that Lviv will have much more chances to finish the stadium than Kyiv. There is no open discussion about Kyiv Stadium, but i'm sure the problem sooner or later will come out. They don't know how to construct the roof of the stadium properly! As they admitted, it would be much better to construct a brand new stadium, but it's already too late for that.
About Kyiv tolking last 2 years. Press talking everything but "euro" still in Ukraine.
Where did you take info about roof?

Gdansk looks great! National Stadium and PGE Arena will be the most beautiful Euro stadiums!

You will see that Lviv will have much more chances to finish the stadium than Kyiv. There is no open discussion about Kyiv Stadium, but i'm sure the problem sooner or later will come out. They don't know how to construct the roof of the stadium properly! As they admitted, it would be much better to construct a brand new stadium, but it's already too late for that.

About Kyiv tolking last 2 years. Press talking everything but "euro" still in Ukraine.
Where did you take info about roof?

It was information from ukrainian press!! Journalists have checked and confirmed that the roof will be built by a company that has not experience (never built!) of such a large construction. It was called like a joke but now unfortunately we see and UEFA too, that it is a true.

Wow, it's exciting to see Poznan and Gdansk working on their roofs (early days for Gdansk, but still).

What fantastic stadia these will be, for me, Poznan was always the runt in the Polish side of the tourney, but on those photos it's looking better than I expected, it should turn out quite a impressive stadium (quite tall looking).

Concerning Kyiv, newcommers are always lucky, you know! So what's so bad allowing a company to have great practise? At least it would be more efficient in terms of money sums!

I agree - newcomers need practice - have them practice constructing a roof at small stadia around the country and not 'gaining' experience during the construction of arguably the most important project in all of Ukraine.

New companies do not have the experience in budgeting and planning extensive projects - this will most likely lead to delays and cost overruns.

I really really want Kiev and all of the Ukrainian/Polish stadiums to be completed on time.

Vladymyr, Poland and Ukraine are totally different stories. The companies who are building polish stadiums have a lot of experience and everything has been prepared very precise.

What experience? Poland company make this gob at first.
What they build before?
Supermarkets? Buildings? Bridges? This is experience?

Concerning Kyiv, newcommers are always lucky, you know! So what's so bad allowing a company to have great practise? At least it would be more efficient in terms of money sums!

Concerning Kyiv, newcommers are always lucky, you know! So what's so bad allowing a company to have great practise? At least it would be more efficient in terms of money sums!


It is a big no no in the land of engineering, you cannot rely on a company with no experience not only in quality but also when it comes to deadlines...also, in most bids that are of such high importance there is a minimum number of projects/years of experience, a company must have before even being able to participate in the bid itself. It seems like Ukraine skipped this whole procedure and didn't care about anything besides $$ :bash:

It was information from ukrainian press!! Journalists have checked and confirmed that the roof will be built by a company that has not experience (never built!) of such a large construction. It was called like a joke but now unfortunately we see and UEFA too, that it is a true.

I think is not problem. For example: Donbass-stadium was build by Turkish company "Enka" That was first stadium for this company.

What about Poland company which build stadiums for "EURO".
They have experience? I don't think.
But they do this job and i think they do it not bad.

Who is ENKA: http://donbass-arena.com/en/profiles/profiles1/

It was information from ukrainian press!! Journalists have checked and confirmed that the roof will be built by a company that has not experience (never built!) of such a large construction. It was called like a joke but now unfortunately we see and UEFA too, that it is a true.

Donbass-stadium was build by turkish company "ENKA"
It was first experience for this company. And they did it! They coped with duties.
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If it's true (about roof), UEFA could recomend to change of contractor.
But they don't do it.
By the way, contractor of stadium in Kyiv about 50 years ago built this stadium.
So, i think they know what to do.
For roof goverment can find other contractor.
Therefore i think that the problem not in roof.

What about Poland company who build stadium in Poland for EURO?
They have experience? I don't think. But they do this job and not bad.

Vladymyr, Poland and Ukraine are totally different stories. The companies who are building polish stadiums have a lot of experience and everything has been prepared very precise.

You can't compare a new build stadium (Donetsk) with a reconstruction (Kyiv). It's much more difficult and requires more time. I think the current contractor will not make it. UEFA has been cheated by the ukrainian authorities, that is why they still didn't persuade to change the contractor. Do you know how much time would it take it they would have to change it anyway?

Vladymyr, Poland and Ukraine are totally different stories. The companies who are building polish stadiums have a lot of experience and everything has been prepared very precise.

What experience? Poland company make this gob at first.
What they build before?
Supermarkets? Buildings? Bridges? This is experience?

I think that main problem of reconstruction stadium in Kyiv is a financing.

Considering the delays and all the fuss about Kiev, i really hope UEFA will make the final in Warsaw.

What experience? Poland company make this gob at first.
What they build before?
Supermarkets? Buildings? Bridges? This is experience?

I think that main problem of reconstruction stadium in Kyiv is a financing.

Which polish companies are building our stadiums on their own? Do you really know who is building our stadiums? These are the biggest german contractors collaborating with our polish subcontractors.

The problem of Kyiv is the corrupted and incompetent contractor, not money.

Considering the delays and all the fuss about Kiev, i really hope UEFA will make the final in Warsaw.

Wait, wait amigo! :nuts:
At first let's finish built stadium in Warsaw.

If Kyiv will lost final.
Well than i think that Ukraine should abandon the project (Euro-2012)


to JPM I'm talking about experience.

Ukrainian company build stadium in Dnepropetrovsk and Kharkov.

It was information from ukrainian press!! Journalists have checked and confirmed that the roof will be built by a company that has not experience (never built!) of such a large construction. It was called like a joke but now unfortunately we see and UEFA too, that it is a true.

What are you talking about? Roof's construction at NSC in Kyiv realizes company "Kryvorizhstalkonstrukciya" (see some info in Ukrainian language here http://www.stroyolimp.com.ua/?page=laureats2006_11 ). This company (or its progenitor) was employed to roof construction of stadium in Luzhniki (Moscow). There are some info in Russian language and photos of stadium roof construction in Luzhniki:
http://www.steelcon.ru/link_04_1.html

Wait, wait amigo!
At first let's finish built stadium in Warsaw.
I completly agree! Sylver, You shouldn't have written your post, it was just stupid.:ohno:
I'm from Poland, and I want to see the first game in Warsaw, and the final game in Kiev. I have no doubts, that we organize these championship together.

Warsaw - National Stadium

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How can still some Polish guys be so jealous about the final match?! Can't you be proud for your neighbours and brothers that they have such a great chance, even though they aren't on the same development level as your EU-financed country? Let's be happy that at least Ukraine constructs something out there, I wish it would be ready by winter 2012, and that would be not bad!

Contract for the delivery of 14 trains to WKD (one of Warsaw area commuters) was signed today. Cost - 281 milion zl. Manufacturer is PESA. Delivery by 2012.

http://www.rynek-kolejowy.pl/fototemp/500_300_1/images/headlines/1e7776c239ec4ec2313f78ae3e48f035.jpg

How can still some Polish guys be so jealous about the final match?! Can't you be proud for your neighbours and brothers that they have such a great chance, even though they aren't on the same development level as your EU-financed country? Let's be happy that at least Ukraine constructs something out there, I wish it would be ready by winter 2012, and that would be not bad!

Neighbours? Yes. Brothers? Give it a rest already....

Neighbours? Yes. Brothers? Give it a rest already....

Exactly. Our brothers are the Hungarians!

^^ stop this OT!

As Sylver said ... Well i hope Triceratops will realise as Latvian that he can be ''brother'' with whoever he want just stop this childish suggestion of ''brothership'' not knowing our realities . And now backing to the theard .....

Exactly. Our brothers are the Hungarians!

True,True ;)

http://m.blog.hu/ke/kelet-europa/image/lengyel%20t%C3%A9m%C3%A1k/logo_baratsag1.jpg


On March 12, 2007, Hungary's parliament declared March 23 as the Day of Hungarian-Polish Friendship, with 324 votes in favour, no votes against and no abstention.

On March 16, 2007, the Polish parliament by acclamation declared March 23 as the Day of Polish-Hungarian Friendship

so a few days ago we celebrate the Day of Polish-Hungarian Friendship, in the school too. We have to be proud our ancestors. So happy Polish-Hungarian Friendship day to every Polish and Hungarian users :)

Ok nice guys that our nations are friends, but what does it have to do with euro 2012? :nuts:

True,True ;)

http://m.blog.hu/ke/kelet-europa/image/lengyel%20t%C3%A9m%C3%A1k/logo_baratsag1.jpg


On March 12, 2007, Hungary's parliament declared March 23 as the Day of Hungarian-Polish Friendship, with 324 votes in favour, no votes against and no abstention.

On March 16, 2007, the Polish parliament by acclamation declared March 23 as the Day of Polish-Hungarian Friendship

so a few days ago we celebrate the Day of Polish-Hungarian Friendship, in the school too. We have to be proud our ancestors. So happy Polish-Hungarian Friendship day to every Polish and Hungarian users :)

Hungary rocks!!!! I love Hungary and Hungarians!! These are our true brothers and sisters without a doubt! Ukrainians, those in western Ukraine are trying to build the future on false foundations. They have glorified Stepan Bandera and UPA which is responsible for the death of 150 000 Poles, Jews, Czechs, Gypsies as well as Ukrainians who attempted to help those being killed!

Anyways, back to the topic, sorry for the OT.

Warsaw


elements of the roof ready to be fitted
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cranes being prepared for installation of roof
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Here will be players changing rooms
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the highest level of construction
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...last part of fotorelation from Warsaw National Stadium

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Fotos prepared by zbieraj and Polex
Many thanks for your work!!

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Ukrainian Euro 2012 host cities to receive around UAH 400 m to buy public transport

Municipal authorities of the cities, which are to stage matches of the Euro 2012 European Football Championship, will receive around 2,000 public transport vehicles from the state leasing company.

Vice Premier in charge of the Euro-2012 preparations Borys Kolesnikov said this in an interview with the Dzerkalo Tyzhnia (Mirror Weekly) newspaper.

"Using UAH 300 million - UAH 400 million provided by Ukreximbank, we will increase the statutory capital of the state leasing company, and municipal administration of four cities will get nearly 2,000 brand new vehicles," the vice-premier said.

According to him, the vehicles will be produced by LAZ (Lviv Bus Plants).

"There is only one plant that can cope with the quality and volume of the order - Lviv Bus Plant," Kolesnikov said.

Link (http://www.kyivpost.com/news/nation/detail/62640/)

Exactly. Our brothers are the Hungarians!

Haha, shame they dont find us brothers lol
I changed my mind when I met Hungarians :ohno:

Haha, shame they dont find us brothers lol
I changed my mind when I met Hungarians :ohno:

you met with wrong hungarians..

The size of foto is so small! )))))))

Stadium in Kyiv:

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airport in Donetsk:

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Are these true shots of Kyiv, looks as if that just cannot be happening there! So nice to see that Ukrainian capital is getting its one of the most stunning stadiums in Eastern Europe! :banana:

Where are mods??? This thread should be close for a couple days.
DEL this post.

I've heard they may have to demolish this midrise building, because it's too close to the stadium and may cause problems with stadium's construction, is it true?

Why crossbars now is less than was before? (Warsaw)

maybe next time just give us link. cause it takes forever to load photos. thanks

^^ +1

I've heard they may have to demolish this midrise building, because it's too close to the stadium and may cause problems with stadium's construction, is it true?

Not really. Yes, there was one structure u/c that could be harming the visitors at the entrance, but it was already demolished. It was a shopping centre, not that highrise.

"Platini threatens: Ukraine may lose Euro 2012"

UEFA President Michel Platini in Brussels criticized the level of preparation of Ukraine to the European Football Championships in 2012. He threatened that if Kiev does not accelerate the modernization of the stadium and infrastructure construction, the country say goodbye to the organization of the tournament.

- I'm concerned the level of preparation, which presents Ukraine at this time. In ten days I will go there to meet with the newly elected president and talk about the details. If Kiev does not accelerate the construction of the stadium and other buildings, ME will not be able to take place in this country - said Platini.

He added that it is also possible the tournament played in four cities in Poland and two in Ukraine, provided that one of them will be Kiev.

Platini in Brussels met with European Commissioner for education and culture, also responsible for sports, Vassiliou.

This is the second member of UEFA's negative statement about Ukraine's preparations for EURO 2012. Martin Kallen also urges acceleration of work in Ukraine.

:ohno::ohno::ohno:

source: PAP (Polish Press Agency)

I definetely would not like to see Ukraine loose E2012, but maybe it is not that bad idea to pick 2 cities and concentrate all ukrainian Euro2012 funds on them.

Kraków and Chorzów will be back to the game ? :cheers:

Chorzów :
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rest of the pics .. http://www.11.pl/kask_na_glowe/kask_na_glowe_chorzowski_gigant_fotorelacja_czesc_clxi/

Kraków:
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I definetely would not like to see Ukraine loose E2012, but maybe it is not that bad idea to pick 2 cities and concentrate all ukrainian Euro2012 funds on them.

ukraine will not loose euro.but they will finish later then poland. look at south africa, they are working till the last minute to finish everything which will probs happen in ukraine. so chill ukraine will be hosting WITH ALL 4 CITIES!!!!!!!! GO UKRAINE

On this week in Lviv probably will change the contractor of stadium.

Kraków and Chorzów will be back to the game ? :cheers:

Are you joking?
Stadium in Dnepropetrovsk are ready for Euro, but UEFA not will back there.
The same and for Kraków and Chorzów.
I think they will rest 4 poland cities and i hope - 4 ukrainian cities.
I don't understand why UEFA so often has critisezed the Ukraine!?
Situation in Poland is not much better than in Ukraine.

Situation in Warsaw better than in Kyiv? I don't think.


I definetely would not like to see Ukraine loose E2012, but maybe it is not that bad idea to pick 2 cities and concentrate all ukrainian Euro2012 funds on them.

If UEFA will do it. It will be most problems for Ukraine, because:
Kharkov and Donetsk have just stadiums and as soon as posible will get the airport, but in this cities have a big problems with hotels and other tourist infrastructure.
Leave Kyiv and Lviv without EURO, it means leave Ukraine without tourist infrastructure. I hope they not will do it.
4:4 or all euro to Poland.
Euro-2012 without ukrainian final it's not EURO for Ukraine.

Progress in Warsaw after 10 months:

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Read the below in USAToday. UEFA are actually threatening to strip Ukraine of co-host rights now. Doesn't look good for Lviv and I'd say Kiev is on a knife's edge. I don't know how Ukraine could let it come to this.

Platini still uncertain about Ukraine for 2012
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By Raf Casert, AP Sports Writer

BRUSSELS — UEFA president Michel Platini said Monday he doubts whether Ukraine will be able to co-host the 2012 European Championship and complained that work on one of its four stadiums had stopped.

Speaking at the European Union, Platini said construction in western Lviv "has made no progress whatsoever," while work on the showpiece stadium in Kiev had fallen behind schedule. Platini said that if the stadium in Kiev was not ready, Ukraine would be unable to co-host Europe's premier football event.

"I am worried because we put our trust in a country, in a policy," he said.

Platini will travel to Kiev next week to assess the troubled construction works and ask the new government to bring development up to par with that in co-host Poland. UEFA warned both countries in September 2008 to speed up construction or risk losing the three-week long tournament. On Monday, Platini said Poland's preparations were on track.

"For Poland all is going well. It is in Ukraine where it is a bit difficult," he said.

Both co-hosts have to provide four stadiums. In Ukraine's case, Kiev, Lviv, Donetsk and Kharkiv are to host matches. Lviv, a western city of 735,000, laid the foundations of a 30,000-capacity stadium in February 2009 but progress since had been too slow, Platini said.

Construction at Lviv had moved forward "not by an inch. So yes, I am worried," he said.

He also said renovation work on Kiev's 63,000-capacity Olympic stadium was going too slowly. The stadium is due to host six matches, including the 2012 final.

Platini said failure to complete the stadium would mean the end of Ukraine's participation in the championship. "If there is no Kiev, then no Ukraine," Platini said, before backtracking slightly. Explaining that Kiev's "difficulties" were in part due to an unusually harsh winter, Platini said, "I think Kiev will be all right in the end."

Platini also refused to be drawn on whether Germany could take Ukraine's place. "There is no Plan B," he said.

Copyright 2010 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast,

to Perun
It doesn't mean nothing. I compare stadium in Kiev and in Warsaw.
Of course in Kyiv doesn't build so quickly as do it in Warsaw, but Kyiv finished reconstraction the 2-d floor and full remake the 1-st floor of stadium. We still have time for build 1\5 of stadium and make the roof.
In this time workers is continuing work.

In Warsaw little other situation.

The problem is that Warsaw stadium is far more complicated, and will be one of the most complicated (if even not the most) in the Europe, and the work is going on very rapidly. The goal in Kyiv is to build the second tier with roof, and despite of that progress is very low.

to Perun
It doesn't mean nothing. I compare stadium in Kiev and in Warsaw.
Of course in Kyiv doesn't build so quickly as do it in Warsaw, but Kyiv finished reconstraction the 2-d floor and full remake the 1-st floor of stadium. We still have time for build 1\5 of stadium and make the roof.
In this time workers is continuing work.

In Warsaw little other situation.

In Warsaw the situation is perfect. Correct project, contractor with know-how, great building "pace" and no backlog. Just a perfect job!
Unfortunately in Kyiv things are going all wrong what even UEFA tries to point out.

I will not even speak about other things like railway transport, motorways etc..

Read the below in USAToday. UEFA are actually threatening to strip Ukraine of co-host rights now. Doesn't look good for Lviv and I'd say Kiev is on a knife's edge. I don't know how Ukraine could let it come to this.

Platini still uncertain about Ukraine for 2012
Posted 3h 57m ago | Comment | Recommend E-mail | Save | Print |
By Raf Casert, AP Sports Writer

BRUSSELS — UEFA president Michel Platini said Monday he doubts whether Ukraine will be able to co-host the 2012 European Championship and complained that work on one of its four stadiums had stopped.

Speaking at the European Union, Platini said construction in western Lviv "has made no progress whatsoever," while work on the showpiece stadium in Kiev had fallen behind schedule. Platini said that if the stadium in Kiev was not ready, Ukraine would be unable to co-host Europe's premier football event.

"I am worried because we put our trust in a country, in a policy," he said.
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He is talking about this last 2 years.
But i'm agree with him only about Lviv (hope that Lviv will change contractor on this week.
But in Kyiv everything is ok!
Yes, Kyiv fallen behind schedule (about 2 month) but wich stadium was built in time?

He is talking about this last 2 years.
But i'm agree with him only about Lviv (hope that Lviv will change contractor on this week.
But in Kyiv everything is ok!
Yes, Kyiv fallen behind schedule (about 2 month) but wich stadium was built in time?

Vladymyr, I have much sympathy to you, but I think you have lost the REAL view of the situation. Look at the mass on that stadium, look at this no-progress. They should be already building the roof from September 2009!!

Would not surprise me if Ukraine loses it all. Though they could still host some games just not the final, taking it all away would be a bit harsh. The recession really hurt them badly.

The problem is that Warsaw stadium is far more complicated, and will be one of the most complicated (if even not the most) in the Europe, and the work is going on very rapidly. The goal in Kyiv is to build the second tier with roof, and despite of that progress is very low.

Wait, wait Platini. ))))
Let's finish build the Warsaw stadium.
On yours foro of Warsaw stadium i see only not full purt of first tier.
Ahead the finish building of second tier and cover of stadium. It takes time also.


"I will not even speak about other things like railway transport, motorways etc.."

We have build new motorway because they very bad, but railways we are not will change, for euro just will buy some new traines and refresh old.
What you mean whan wrote "etc"?

Wait, wait Platini. ))))
Let's finish build the Warsaw stadium.
On yours foro of Warsaw stadium i see only not full purt of first tier.
Ahead the finish building of second tier and cover of stadium. It takes time also.


"I will not even speak about other things like railway transport, motorways etc.."

We have build new motorway because they very bad, but railways we are not will change, for euro just will buy some new traines and refresh old.
What you mean whan wrote "etc"?

Are you an engineer? do you know anything about stadium constructions? You think that a company that has build Allianz Arena will be unable to finish our stadium?

There are no motorways in Ukraine at the moment, except Kyiv-Borispol (18 km) and Dnipropetrovsk-Kharkiv and that is also a problem.

"Etc" I mean for ex. hotels (not only luxury hotels but also medium class)or public transport like trains or trams.

to Perun
It doesn't mean nothing. I compare stadium in Kiev and in Warsaw.
Of course in Kyiv doesn't build so quickly as do it in Warsaw, but Kyiv finished reconstraction the 2-d floor and full remake the 1-st floor of stadium. We still have time for build 1\5 of stadium and make the roof.
In this time workers is continuing work.

In Warsaw little other situation.
I hope, in inner discussions You're not repeating same things, If it's otherwise and Politicians don't feel pressure, You are on a straight way to disaster. With that attitude Olympic Stadium won't be finished soon enough to convince UEFA. I defended Ukrainian preparations in many discussion on SSC, but phase in Kyiv is tragic, and people responsible for it seem to don't have any plan to change this situation.

10 month progress in Kyiv:

http://m.io.ua/img_aa/medium/0968/91/09689167.jpg

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/4310/bohdan-astro.67/0_2bc39_d3b52f8c_XL.jpg

And one more question!
Who is will be play in Ukraine in a while Euro?
Team of England, Germany, or may be of France? I'm not sure.
So, i think that in Ukraine (for final part of euro-2012) will come team of Russia, Turkish, may be Romania, or someone like this.
The Ukrainian infrustructure for football fans from these country is enough.

And one more question!
Who is will be play in Ukraine in a while Euro?
Team of England, Germany, or may be of France? I'm not sure.
So, i think that in Ukraine (for final part of euro-2012) will come team of Russia, Turkish, may be Romania, or someone like this.
The Ukrainian infrustructure for football fans from these country is enough.

How can you know who will play in the finals now? And what does it have to do with your preparations? You have to build the same stadiums, same motorways and same hotels anyway! You are not preparing EURO2012 for poor Europe, but a real european class tournament!

And one more question!
Who is will be play in Ukraine in a while Euro?
Team of England, Germany, or may be of France? I'm not sure.
So, i think that in Ukraine (for final part of euro-2012) will come team of Russia, Turkish, may be Romania, or someone like this.
The Ukrainian infrustructure for football fans from these country is enough.
Groups will be drawn...

And one more question!
Who is will be play in Ukraine in a while Euro?
Team of England, Germany, or may be of France? I'm not sure.
So, i think that in Ukraine (for final part of euro-2012) will come team of Russia, Turkish, may be Romania, or someone like this.
The Ukrainian infrustructure for football fans from these country is enough.
Are you from Oxford?

New trams for Kyiv.
Besides, there is a possibility that those trams will be bought for Donets'k.
http://tf1.mosfont.ru/photo/02/15/77/215778.jpg

http://tf1.mosfont.ru/photo/02/15/78/215780.jpg

Trains for Kyiv metro system.
They are going to buy two types of trains
1)
http://s57.radikal.ru/i156/1003/d6/3433b4b3bf11.jpg
2)
http://s41.radikal.ru/i094/1003/d9/a98b98ce3fb4.jpg

http://s42.radikal.ru/i097/1003/89/3edec1d598c3.jpg

http://s55.radikal.ru/i147/1003/53/1e6a98a7bec2.jpg
All photos from the ukrainian part of the SSC

And one more question!
Who is will be play in Ukraine in a while Euro?
Team of England, Germany, or may be of France? I'm not sure.
So, i think that in Ukraine (for final part of euro-2012) will come team of Russia, Turkish, may be Romania, or someone like this.
The Ukrainian infrustructure for football fans from these country is enough.

Your English is not all that great, but we do get what you want to say. And what you just wrote if incredibly foolish.

Live up to the expectations, if you can't you are out. Even you seem to doubt your country can pull this of, some second rate hosting by you just wont do.

Are you an engineer? do you know anything about stadium constructions? You think that a company that has build Allianz Arena will be unable to finish our stadium?

There are no motorways in Ukraine at the moment, except Kyiv-Borispol (18 km) and Dnipropetrovsk-Kharkiv and that is also a problem.

"Etc" I mean for ex. hotels (not only luxury hotels but also medium class)or public transport like trains or trams.

I didn't say that Warsaw not will do it in time. I'm just compare, what job leave for Kyiv and for Warsaw.

Motorways is not problam, they will cope.

About public transport:
I will take for example my city:

Especially for the Euro 2012 Odessa bought a new trolleybus:

http://s50.radikal.ru/i128/1003/8c/11d19adc4d29t.jpg (http://radikal.ru/F/s50.radikal.ru/i128/1003/8c/11d19adc4d29.jpg.html) http://i075.radikal.ru/1003/52/3ac854b94d81t.jpg (http://radikal.ru/F/i075.radikal.ru/1003/52/3ac854b94d81.jpg.html) http://s006.radikal.ru/i213/1003/36/e631d4167c5et.jpg (http://radikal.ru/F/s006.radikal.ru/i213/1003/36/e631d4167c5e.jpg.html)


We have the same situation in other cities.
Also, company "LAZ" recieved contract for 400 new bus (for euro-2012)
Now in Ukraine make reconstruct of railways, of airports, bus-station, etc.

With hotels, is very interesting situation, some hotels company who works in Ukrainian market, don't want conclude a contract with TUI Travel, because they are not profitable contracts. (in other words, they will lost money if they will conclude deal)

Why are you criticizing Warsaw stadium? Vladymyr, face reality and stay away from whatever you are on. National Stadium in Warsaw will be a brand NEW stadium. They have just finished building the underground parking (which Kiev doesnt have). Now they are starting with the roof and other things. The stadium was designed to be profitable even without football. There will be many things inside the stadium. Kiev on the other hand is just a renovation of the entire stadium with an addition of a roof that was supposed to be going up in 2009.

BTW if you want to compare infrastructure look back at the previous pages and you will see all the new trams and buses Warsaw, Gdansk, Wroclaw, and Poznan bought. As for roads go to the Polish highways topic.

Then you can compare about our progress and you will clearly see that we have way faster progress.

Are you from Oxford?

You find this funny?

Then you can compare about our progress and you will clearly see that we have way faster progress.

I didn't say,about who is faster. I compare stadium and i said that Ukraine also make prepare for euro.

I didn't say,about who is faster. I compare stadium and i said that Ukraine also make prepare for euro.

Well if you are comparing stadiums, the Polish ones are being build on track to meet their estimated time of completion.

How can you know who will play in the finals now? And what does it have to do with your preparations? You have to build the same stadiums, same motorways and same hotels anyway! You are not preparing EURO2012 for poor Europe, but a real european class tournament!


Requirements for Poland is higher than for Ukraine.

Stadiums in Donetsk and Dnipropetrovsk were built with private money. Lviv and Kiev have to ask the government for money. I think that this is one of the main problems. It seems to me that the UEFA will leave you only two of the city and tells you to focus on their preparations.
We'll see what he would say Platini in the coming days.

Can you guys give Vladymyr a break!! Yes, the preparations in Ukraine are not going all that well, but lets hope for the best. Vladymyr, I hope that Odessa would take over. You guys have the hotel base and everything (maybe except airport) but they are building a stadium there as well. If not Kiev, perhaps Odessa?

Yes, being Polish it would be nice if Krakow was back in the game, but let's be fair; if Ukraine managest to make up the lost time, its only fair to have 4 Polish and 4 Ukrainian cities. I think this year will be decisive; and we will know whether Ukraine will manage or not. At the end of 2010 ... if works in Ukraine (at least Kiev and Lwow) don't speed up, Ukraine might miss out. Till then lets hope for the best. I think a year from today, we will know who will host and who will not host, though it all is up to Kiev, as Platini stressed.

Keep up the good work with the updates guys ;-)

Can you guys give Vladymyr a break!! Yes, the preparations in Ukraine are not going all that well, but lets hope for the best. Vladymyr, I hope that Odessa would take over. You guys have the hotel base and everything (maybe except airport) but they are building a stadium there as well. If not Kiev, perhaps Odessa?

Keep up the good work with the updates guys ;-)

))))))))))
Forget about Odessa. We lost euro.

"It seems to me that the UEFA will leave you only two of the city and tells you to focus on their preparations."

Donetsk and Kharkov have a good chance for group matches only.
Well than, for what leave EURO in Ukraine?
For tick?

I still want to see the final game in Kiev, and I still don't know where are mods?

Perhaps Mod also has doubts?? ;)

http://www.kyivpost.com/engine/templates/kyivpost/i/logo.jpg

Ukrainian Euro 2012 host cities to receive around UAH 400 m to buy public transport

"Using UAH 300 million - UAH 400 million provided by Ukreximbank, we will increase the statutory capital of the state leasing company, and municipal administration of four cities will get nearly 2,000 brand new vehicles," the vice-premier said.

According to him, the vehicles will be produced by LAZ (Lviv Bus Plants).

"There is only one plant that can cope with the quality and volume of the order - Lviv Bus Plant," Kolesnikov said.

Link (http://www.kyivpost.com/news/nation/detail/62640/)

400 million UAH is 37 million EUR, that means that average bus price is 18 500 EUR. That`s unbelivable to build city bus for such small amount of money. But maybe it`s only additional financing. An average cheap city bus costs about 100 000 EUR.
It`s good that Ukrainan plant will get that contract.

In South Africa preparations and construction of stadiums lasted untill now. I think Ukraine will manage to fullfill UEFA criteria and E2012 will be organized 4 on 4 stadiums.

Can you guys give Vladymyr a break!! Yes, the preparations in Ukraine are not going all that well, but lets hope for the best. Vladymyr, I hope that Odessa would take over. You guys have the hotel base and everything (maybe except airport) but they are building a stadium there as well. If not Kiev, perhaps Odessa?

Yes, being Polish it would be nice if Krakow was back in the game, but let's be fair; if Ukraine managest to make up the lost time, its only fair to have 4 Polish and 4 Ukrainian cities. I think this year will be decisive; and we will know whether Ukraine will manage or not. At the end of 2010 ... if works in Ukraine (at least Kiev and Lwow) don't speed up, Ukraine might miss out. Till then lets hope for the best. I think a year from today, we will know who will host and who will not host, though it all is up to Kiev, as Platini stressed.

Keep up the good work with the updates guys ;-)

Exactly, It's very nice to see brand new trams and other mean of transport in host cities. Btw. it's not an auction who has better stadiums or city buses.
We should aid ourselfs by each other, but instead of this I can see only complaining and accusing. Of course there are also about 5 posts in each page about that Kiev should lost the final :ohno:

In South Africa preparations and construction of stadiums lasted untill now. I think Ukraine will manage to fullfill UEFA criteria and E2012 will be organized 4 on 4 stadiums.

Well I guess that's the other thing, it could very well be that there is actually no way to lose such a tournament and such threats are idle threats, certainly they gave SA all the time in the world, so applying the same reasoning Ukraine might be fine no matter what.

400 million UAH is 37 million EUR, that means that average bus price is 18 500 EUR. That`s unbelivable to build city bus for such small amount of money. But maybe it`s only additional financing. An average cheap city bus costs about 100 000 EUR.
It`s good that Ukrainan plant will get that contract.

Remember that Poland are in U.E.
Just compare:
- level the salary of ukrainian workers and poland.
- prices raw material in Ukraine and in Poland.
- And don't forget compare the taxes.
(our mafia don't pay taxes)
So, ukrainian products are cheaply than europian.
But our products is not higher quality

How many bases for national teams prepared in Poland?

Fresh news:
In Lviv was changed cotractor.
Company "Azovinteks" stoped build stadium and airport in Lviv.
New contarctors for stadium (Lviv) - the consortium of turkish, ukrainian and croatian companies.
Airport in Lviv - company "Altkom" (Ukraine, Donetsk) This company build airport in Donetsk

Remember that Poland are in U.E.
Just compare:
- level the salary of ukrainian workers and poland.
- prices raw material in Ukraine and in Poland.
- And don't forget compare the taxes.
(our mafia don't pay taxes)
So, ukrainian products are cheaply than europian.
But our products is not higher quality

Yes but that 400 mln UAH is extra money for state leasing company. 2000 brand new buses means that most of public bus transport in ukrainian host cities will be modernized. :cheers:
Maybe ukrainian products are not lower quality but value for money. As I saw below the nwe tramways and trolleybyses bought in UA are looking good.

Fresh news:
In Lviv was changed cotractor.
Company "Azovinteks" stoped build stadium and airport in Lviv.
New contarctors for stadium (Lviv) - the consortium of turkish, ukrainian and croatian companies.
Airport in Lviv - company "Altkom" (Ukraine, Donetsk) This company build airport in Donetsk

I think Platini saying his words wanted to stimulate actions on ukrainian side. I`m sure that Ukraine will build all the stadiums and nedded infrastructure before june 2012.

http://www.kyivpost.com/news/city/detail/62751/

When you read the comments in the Ukrainian papers, it's like they don't even want the Euro.

http://www.kyivpost.com/news/city/detail/62751/

When you read the comments in the Ukrainian papers, it's like they don't even want the Euro.

Oooo! "Kyivpost" - is very "popular" newspaper in Ukraine, especially in English language ))))))))))))

6 comments. So much! ))))))


Come to this page: http://uaeuro2012.com/
or here: http://2012ua.net/news/

This pages visit people who love football.

Requirements for Poland is higher than for Ukraine.

Really? Says who?

In case of Ukraine being excluded in any way from Euro2012 I just hope that Ukrainian people would look for the guilty ones at their own playground and not in Poland.

Really? Says who?
I just hope that Ukrainian people would look for the guilty ones at their own playground and not in Poland.

Who is talking about Poland? Who said that Poland is guilty ...... ?
Read my massages again. Please.

OMG. Ukraine has a problem and if we don't support them even mentally, don't attack them. I hope it will be our tournament, and everything I want, is that Ukraine don't frighten anybody away.

UEFA will threaten Ukraine to encourage them to make better progress. It`s a kind of tactics.

Remember UA has already got 2 finished stadiums. Poland will have one finished in June (Poznań) and the other ones are still under construction and Wrocław stadium is also on UEFA "red list".

I`m sure E2012 will be played 4 on 4.

How many bases for national teams prepared in Poland?

Hard to answer, but quite a lot is now under construction at the moment e.g: Puławy, Ostróda. Also a few are done, like Wronki. But it's hard to say how many will be ready for euro. I bet about 15-20. How the situation looks in this aspect in Ukraine? We also have to admitt, that Polish and Ukrainian cities will compete against each other.

But it's hard to say how many will be ready for euro. I bet about 15-20. How the situation looks in this aspect in Ukraine?. We also have to admitt, that Polish and Ukrainian cities will compete against each other.

In Ukraine don't have a problem with bases. But i asked not for this.
I want to know, if Ukraine will lost euro, could Poland make organisation this tournament alone. Therefore i asked you about bases, well if Poland will prepare 15-20 bases, so UEFA have a plane "B".


If Ukraine lost euro, it's not tragedy, first our hope is about infrustructure (new ways, airports, refresh public transport, ....)

I know that the idea of organization the euro in Ukraine - utopian, but we will get a lot good things wich make our life better.
And now in during the process of preparatory Ukraine for "Euro", in my country was created not few.

If Ukraine lost euro, it's not tragedy, first our hope is about infrustructure (new ways, airports, refresh public transport, ....)
But as a young country You need also some healthy national pride, positive ties with western neighbour, and international recognition.
Losing organisation after successful bid would be a significant disappointment for Ukrainians, but I believe it won't happen.

http://www.kyivpost.com/news/city/detail/62751/

When you read the comments in the Ukrainian papers, it's like they don't even want the Euro.

I wonder why ?

do you think they are foreigners ? guys who faced "the Eastern" reality ?

People, even if you're (still) behaving: Please stop argueing about totally unrelated stuff here. It doesn't lead anywhere, to a temporary closing of this thread at the utmost.

Better continue with posting updates. Thanks for your kind attention.

What I think, is that Ukraine should concentrate itself on infrastructure improvement as it is their main problem, not the stadiums, it's not that hardest part, Ukraine completely lacks motorways and hotels! That should become their main target!

^ Did you even read my advice above? :|

I honestly think that you shouldn't forbid us to talk about problems. The thread is about preparations for EURO 2012 and this discussion was on topic in my opinion.

I agree with Erbse. Too much speculations here. Better to post some updates- much better than cheap talk...

I agree with erbse and JPM. erbse has a point but this is the preparations thread. I think what he ment was that all the posts are getting out of control. Can we just have a nice and calm conversation about the situation in Ukraine? Also are there any pics from the new terminal in Gdansk?

Thanks.

Updates from Poznan
Cztery zdjęcia na szybko, a pełna galeria niestety bardzo późno:
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In Ukraine don't have a problem with bases. But i asked not for this.
I want to know, if Ukraine will lost euro, could Poland make organisation this tournament alone. Therefore i asked you about bases, well if Poland will prepare 15-20 bases, so UEFA have a plane "B".


AFAIK bases should be finally choosen in the end of 2010. There should be 16 Polish and 16 Ukrainian. As far as Poland is concerned initially more than 100 centres wanted to be official base, Polish organizers of Euro2012 choosen about 40 candidates and from them final 16 would be choosen. So it looks like bases aren't problem.

Is it like Poznan stadium would be covered with some sort of tissue from outside, a bit bizzare, don't you find?!

Is it like Poznan stadium would be covered with some sort of tissue from outside, a bit bizzare, don't you find?!

Yes, they are in fact using Kleenex brand tissues to cover the entire roof. :|

GDAŃSK

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fot. elpolako

Yes, they are in fact using Kleenex brand tissues to cover the entire roof. :|

Hope it is absolutely safe for several dangers like fire, snow, other exterior factors! And it would be left like that for all the time?

Hmm, the material for Poznan's roof and facade doesn't really look all that great. Maybe it'll look better once it's straightened out.

Hmm, the material for Poznan's roof and facade doesn't really look all that great. Maybe it'll look better once it's straightened out.

Yes, Poznań Stadium is not the one like Warsaw National Stadium or VeltinsArena for example. But it's still a very nice and modern object.

PGE Arena is looking great! Shame its only going to be a 44,000 seater. Wish it was 70,000+ so they could host Champions League finals. Or at least 55,000 so they can host Europa League finals.

Roof in Poznan will be stretched later so chill ;]

^ So what to chill about? It would be still made of that ugly material, or they would make exactly the roof of some tough stuff?