EURO 2012: Poland and Ukraine Stadia and Infrastructure [Archive] - Page 25

Quicksilver

January 11th, 2011, 09:47 PM

Lviv stadium by Bohdan Astro:

http://areny.lviv.ua/index.php?option=com_datsogallery&func=detail&catid=126&id=1611&Itemid=83&lang=uk

Ось деякі фотки звідти:

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/5602/bohdan-astro.107/0_4ca9c_839e9a2b_XXXL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/bohdan-astro/view/314012/)

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/5501/bohdan-astro.107/0_4ca9d_acefce5_XXXL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/bohdan-astro/view/314013/)

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/5701/bohdan-astro.107/0_4ca9e_99b7a8df_XXXL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/bohdan-astro/view/314014/)

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/4402/bohdan-astro.107/0_4ca9f_7735ab13_XXXL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/bohdan-astro/view/314015/)

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/5207/bohdan-astro.107/0_4caa0_76f6e9f0_XXXL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/bohdan-astro/view/314016/)

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/5602/bohdan-astro.107/0_4caa1_a8895523_XXXL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/bohdan-astro/view/314017/)

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/4701/bohdan-astro.107/0_4caa2_f9d0cbd4_XXXL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/bohdan-astro/view/314018/)

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/5600/bohdan-astro.107/0_4caa3_9f3390cd_XXXL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/bohdan-astro/view/314019/)

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/6000/bohdan-astro.107/0_4caa4_a93a609e_XXXL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/bohdan-astro/view/314020/)

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/5406/bohdan-astro.107/0_4caa5_546ab817_XXXL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/bohdan-astro/view/314021/)

http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/4401/bohdan-astro.107/0_4caa6_72ffb96c_XXXL.jpg (http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/bohdan-astro/view/314022/)

Big Cat

January 12th, 2011, 12:58 AM

Nice progress!

Darhet

January 12th, 2011, 01:15 AM

Development of the freeway network in Poland
2x2 or 2x3
http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/680/35754165.jpg

tomibaranek

January 12th, 2011, 10:43 AM

New junction on Kyiv-Chop motorway M-06 near Zhitomir by zt-gregory

Please stop to show non stop this junction on Kyiv-Chop motorway M-06 near Zhitomir. We've seen this many times on forum about Euro 2012. One modern junction in Ukraine it's not enough. Show us something else, we would like to find out that the Ukrainian roads will be ready for Euro 2012.

Quicksilver

January 12th, 2011, 03:10 PM

Please stop to show non stop this junction on Kyiv-Chop motorway M-06 near Zhitomir. We've seen this many times on forum about Euro 2012. One modern junction in Ukraine it's not enough. Show us something else, we would like to find out that the Ukrainian roads will be ready for Euro 2012.

These pictures have been posted in Ukrainian section on 8th of January and I haven't seen them here. I don't know there have you seen them many times.

Don't worry it's not one modern junction in Ukraine, there are more of this.

I've noticed that some Polish forumers have some fetish about Ukrainian roads which your post just proved again.

Daro4443

January 12th, 2011, 05:17 PM

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Robotsx

January 12th, 2011, 10:21 PM

Please stop to show non stop this junction on Kyiv-Chop motorway M-06 near Zhitomir. We've seen this many times on forum about Euro 2012. One modern junction in Ukraine it's not enough. Show us something else, we would like to find out that the Ukrainian roads will be ready for Euro 2012.

Eeeee.... But on the same basis we should not post anymore new stadiums pictures; "We saw so many of them. Stadiums in Warsaw, Kiev, Wrocław, Lviv... Show us new stadiums!. Especially I do not want to see anymore pictures of Rzeszow airport. I saw them so many times..."
I hope You understood this irony...

tomibaranek

January 13th, 2011, 11:36 AM

Eeeee.... But on the same basis we should not post anymore new stadiums pictures; "We saw so many of them. Stadiums in Warsaw, Kiev, Wrocław, Lviv... Show us new stadiums!. Especially I do not want to see anymore pictures of Rzeszow airport. I saw them so many times..."
I hope You understood this irony...

Do not get me wrong, show pictures of other highways construction sites. Show the progress because it's funny to watch the same pictures from one junction. So please give us some information about conditions on the other roads.
BTW Stadiums is a different matter.

I've noticed that some Polish forumers have some fetish about Ukrainian roads which your post just proved again.

I'm living close to ukrainian border and unfortunately know how look road to Lviv. I hope it will be better :cheers:

Ulyssis

January 13th, 2011, 05:49 PM

OK since everyone is so tired of pictures of all the same stadiums and airports, here comes something new. You might remember that Odesa was one of the reserve cities for Euro-2012. The even started to build the stadium back in 2008. Than the works almost stoipped. Now they are back on track. The is a good chance that the stadium will be readyu by 2012 and might be used for training by some of the teams. The setting in a park overlooking Black Sea certainly does not hurt.

http://fan.chernomorets.odessa.ua/forum/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=1161

http://fan.chernomorets.odessa.ua/forum/index.php?showtopic=956&st=40

Another interesting news: Wizz Air announced that they will change their base airport in Kyiv from Boryspil to Zhulyany. Now, this might sound like a routing switch, in fact it may be a dramatic change in Kyiv transportation. Zhulyany is a small regional airport, within city limits. It has been nearly shut down. Recently, the runway has been upgraded for A320 & B737. The terminal is still so horrible- it cannot really be called that. But now, if Wizz is not bluffing there is a real chance that the new terminal project will be completed by Euro:
http://www.segodnya.ua/img/forall/a/141045/24.jpg

delfin_pl

January 13th, 2011, 06:35 PM

Gdańsk

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/1563/gdanskaktualny1024.jpg

J@nek

January 14th, 2011, 04:12 AM

Construction and modernization works at Warsaw's second airport (Modlin International) are in full swing. Here is a news report (only available in Polish, sorry to all non-Polish forumers).

http://www.tvnwarszawa.pl/stolica,news,modlin-bez-stacji-kolejowej-zawsze-jest-plan-b,48700.html

According to the report, works are in full swing, construction of the passenger terminal has begun, runway, taxiway and apron are being renovated and the airport will handle its first passengers in May 2012. One issue that may arise is the train station that is to be built 700 meters away from the passenger terminal. It may not be ready for the Euro, along with the train tracks leading to it. If this does occur, passengers will be bussed from the main Modlin train station to the terminal as railways service will be offered (trains have been already ordered and will be delivered by the end of this year).

Lets hope that everything is ready, including the train station next to the terminal. :)

J@nek

January 14th, 2011, 08:24 AM

Also, this coming weekend, a 10 km stretch of the S8 Expressway is to open in Warsaw. The expressway is considered to be part of Warsaw's northern bypass.

The A2 Motorway, which initiates at the German border, is to intersect the S8 at Konotopa (Warsaw) in 2012, via Poznan and Lodz. At Konotopa, the A2 will split into the S8 (Warsaw's northern bypass) and the S2 (Warsaw's southern bypass).

This 10 km S8 stretch, due to open this weekend, is part of the S8 Expressway (Via Baltica) which is to connect Warsaw with Vilnius in the near future.

Faust7

January 14th, 2011, 12:04 PM

^^Sorry, but S8 is going to connect Wrocław and Białystok. It is also going to be a part of an international road E67 Prague-Helsinki which part from Warsaw to Helsinki is called Via Baltica.:)

tomibaranek

January 14th, 2011, 02:24 PM

GDAŃSK - PGE ARENA

http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/1636/img7744panorama.jpg

http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/453/img7752panorama.jpg

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All fotos made by: elpolako

Singidunum

January 14th, 2011, 07:22 PM

Sławek = Slavek is not Ukrainian! Slavko is

Neither of the name is Ukrainian, what the hell are you talking about :lol:

Slavko is a regular Serbian name though. This might be an homage to the first settlers of the Lugansk region :)

http://besplatno-skidanje.internetvampir.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Mirko-i-Slavko-besplatan-doma%C4%87i-film.jpg

Quicksilver

January 15th, 2011, 12:16 AM

Construction of second new terminal in Kharkiv:

http://cs4366.vkontakte.ru/u5828384/32529803/x_79f05730.jpg

http://cs4366.vkontakte.ru/u5828384/32529803/x_7b65093e.jpg

http://cs4366.vkontakte.ru/u5828384/32529803/x_d87ce05b.jpg

http://cs4366.vkontakte.ru/u5828384/32529803/x_0f636451.jpg

http://avianews.com/forum/download/file.php?id=1570&mode=view

Completed terminal on the left:

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/3447/315r.jpg

Big Cat

January 15th, 2011, 12:20 AM

Will the new terminal is to become permanent or just temporary in order to absorb significantly increased flow of the people coming for the Euro 2012?

Ulyssis

January 15th, 2011, 04:02 AM

It will serve as a terminal during Euro, and will be transformed into hangar/terminal for business aviation. The old terminal is also under reconstruction now- it will be a vip terminal.

Wigner

January 15th, 2011, 04:54 PM

Lviv airport 4/1/2011:

http://areny.lviv.ua/index2.php?option=com_datsogallery&func=wmark&mid=1517

http://areny.lviv.ua/index2.php?option=com_datsogallery&func=wmark&mid=1597

http://areny.lviv.ua/index2.php?option=com_datsogallery&func=wmark&mid=1599

http://areny.lviv.ua/index.php?option=com_datsogallery&func=detail&catid=111&id=1524&Itemid=254&lang=uk

J@nek

January 15th, 2011, 11:42 PM

Warsaw's S8 bypass to open within days.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5lyOcrXymA&feature=player_embedded#!

delfin_pl

January 16th, 2011, 06:06 AM

I really like Lviv new terminal, good job!

6opuC

January 16th, 2011, 09:17 PM

Lviv terminal is giant!

1isichka

January 17th, 2011, 10:00 AM

Lviv terminal is giant!

It's not that big. 3-storey, about 39000 m2, 1000 passengers per pick hour.

delfin_pl

January 17th, 2011, 10:11 AM

^^^ So its the same size as new Terminals in Gdańsk and Wrocław, only traffic is much lower in Lviv.

mr.cool

January 17th, 2011, 10:46 AM

Does anyone know when the seats will be installed at Gdansk PGE Arena, Stadion Naradowy and Stadion Mieski in Wroclaw? :)

Rafis

January 17th, 2011, 11:15 AM

Does anyone know when the seats will be installed at Gdansk PGE Arena, Stadion Naradowy and Stadion Mieski in Wroclaw? :)

In Wrocław it could be in march (start of work)

Homem

January 18th, 2011, 03:55 PM

Ulyssis

January 18th, 2011, 09:17 PM

Bonjour,
Did the construction of the new Zhulyany terminal airport started ?
More details affordable by non ukraynian speakers: size, numbers of passengers, pics of renders , of construction ...? Will it be ready for Euro 2012 ?
Wizzair will move on march to this so small airport: this airport facilities allows it ?

Is it not too much all these huges expansions in Borispol + a new terminal in Zhulyany ?
Do somebody can show the 2010 statistics of passenger numbers in Ukrainian airports ?
Thanks.

1) No, the construction has not been started, even the tenders have not been conducted. However, the airport management appear confident that they will be done by spring 2012, and the project is not terribly complicated.

http://www.avianews.com/ukraine/2011/january/17/kyiv_project.jpg
http://www.avianews.com/ukraine/2011/january/17a.htm

2) The current facility is VERY small. Especially, for international flights. Most likely, there will some kind of temporary extention to the terminal (basically, a tent), to accomodate Wizz. Well, it's low cost after all...

http://www.avianews.com/ukraine/2011/january/17/kyiv_today.jpg

3) It might seem irrational to move away from Boryspil right at the time iiof its expansion, but there is an explanation to this, and a bit of a good news, too:
-- Initially, it was assumed that termianl F in Boryspil will be for low cost and charter carriers. But in the meantime- before termninal D is comissioned, this arguanbly is the best terminal in the airport. So, the airport is charging regular, not reduced fee for it. This may change in the future, if Boryspil will need to fight for traffic with Zhultyany and regional airports. But at the moment they are not terribly concerned. The thing is, Ukraine has not joined open sky yet, and expected to do this this year. So, it is likely that more low cost carriers -like Easy and Ryan will enter the market just around the time when Boryspil commisions terminal D. in addition, Aerosvit is very aggresively expanding operations and will use it as hub. Terminal B will probably only serve domestic flights. And as to terminal F, UIA is currently based there, and they show all signs that this will be their permanent home.

-- For years there had been discussions of revitalizing Zhulyany. In particular, the strip has been upgraded, and the new road with a more direct connection to city center is expectyed to be build this year. So, the move by Wizz will definitely fuel this development , which in turn will create a very attractive low cost alterbnative to Boryspil. Actually, this move was totally out of blue- they were promising this in the past, but no one took those intentions seriously...

2010 Airport Statistics is not complete yet,

from what was already announced the traffic is back to pre-crisis level
KBP 6.7 mln pax
SIP 860K pax
ODS 707K pax

Actually, these numbers may already be quite misleading: the second half of 2010 was way better than the first, and the traffic now is back to ~30% annual growth.

J@nek

January 19th, 2011, 11:05 PM

Warsaw's 10km S8 Bypass opened today!:cheers:

The Punisher 1924

January 19th, 2011, 11:07 PM

I wish so much that the infrastructure for 2012 will be fine in Poland and Ucraine. Here in Brazil, the reparation for the 2014 World Cup is a desaster.

wholagun

January 20th, 2011, 01:27 AM

judging by what i see on the pictures you Ukrainian guys are posting I think you will look back fondly on the Euro2012 in years to come.

Noxid

January 20th, 2011, 01:37 AM

I wish so much that the infrastructure for 2012 will be fine in Poland and Ucraine. Here in Brazil, the reparation for the 2014 World Cup is a desaster.

Easy, about two years ago we were thinking exactly the same.

Ulyssis

January 20th, 2011, 05:27 AM

Easy, about two years ago we were thinking exactly the same.

Right. In Ukraine it all looked totally disastrous just a year ago.

Then again, if we recall Euro in Portugal, World Cup in SA, Olympics in Greece - the same pattern .

Happy recent exceptions are Germany, Austria & Switzeland and China. No surprizes, really.

So, Brasil will surely be fine. After all Brasil=Football ;)

Bartek Suchy

January 20th, 2011, 10:16 AM

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tomibaranek

January 20th, 2011, 01:39 PM

UEFA EURO 2012 team base camps in Poland
Presentation prepared by Cyganie

Team Base Camp
Hotel Dwor Oliwski, Gdansk
Training Ground
Municipal Sport Centre Gdansk
Nearest Host City
Gdansk

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/671/68026499.jpg

http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/6453/59975773.jpg

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http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/3130/89684558.jpg

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Team Base Camp
a) Hotel Nadmorski, Gdynia
b) Hotel Haffner, Gdynia
Training Ground
Municipal Sport Centre Gdynia
Nearest Host City
Gdansk

a)
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http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/2774/36082636.jpg

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/9114/76268312.jpg

b)
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http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/8071/42129634.jpg

http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/9902/22374120.jpg

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Team Base Camp
Hotel Mistral Sport, Gniewino
Training Ground
Municipal Stadium Gniewino
Nearest Host City
Gdansk

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Team Base Camp
Hotel Pałac Wojanów, Jelenia Gora
Training Ground
Municipal Stadium Jelenia Gora
Nearest Host City
Wroclaw

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http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/7250/13463216.jpg

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Team Base Camp
Holiday Inn Warszawa, Jozefow
Training Ground
Municipal Stadium Sulejowek
Nearest Host City
Warszawa

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tomibaranek

January 20th, 2011, 01:44 PM

tomibaranek

January 20th, 2011, 01:48 PM

Team Base Camp
Hotel Dwor Oliwski, Gdansk
Training Ground
Municipal Sport Centre Gdansk
Nearest Host City
Gdansk

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/671/68026499.jpg

http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/6453/59975773.jpg

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/3646/99686563.jpg

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/3130/89684558.jpg

http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/4397/56573249.jpg

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Team Base Camp
a) Hotel Nadmorski, Gdynia
b) Hotel Haffner, Gdynia
Training Ground
Municipal Sport Centre Gdynia
Nearest Host City
Gdansk

a)
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/9779/36870644.jpg

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/2774/36082636.jpg

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/9114/76268312.jpg

b)
http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/8717/37332777.jpg

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/1525/22220921.jpg

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/8071/42129634.jpg

http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/9902/22374120.jpg

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Team Base Camp
Hotel Mistral Sport, Gniewino
Training Ground
Municipal Stadium Gniewino
Nearest Host City
Gdansk

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/2664/22426353.png

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/2475/62990262.jpg

http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/3538/11948722.jpg

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/6527/75108552.jpg

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/531/65510440.jpg

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Team Base Camp
Hotel Pałac Wojanów, Jelenia Gora
Training Ground
Municipal Stadium Jelenia Gora
Nearest Host City
Wroclaw

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/8390/48008257.jpg

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/6065/54366516.jpg

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/3345/60435241.jpg

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/7250/13463216.jpg

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/412/24598544.jpg

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Team Base Camp
Hotel Uroczysko, Kielce
Training Ground
Municipal Stadium Kielce
Nearest Host City
Warsaw

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Team Base Camp
Hotel Marine, Kolobrzeg
Training Ground
Municipal Stadium Kolobrzeg
Nearest Host City
Poznan

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Team Base Camp
Hotel Radisson Blu, Krakow
Training Ground
Municipal Stadium Wisla Krakow
Nearest Host City
Wroclaw

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Team Base Camp
Hotel Warszawianka Wellness & Spa, Legionowo
Training Ground
Municipal Stadium Legionowo
Nearest Host City
Warsaw

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Team Base Camp
Hotel Spa Dr Irena Eris Wzgorza Dylewskie, Lubawa
Training Ground
Municipal Stadium Lubawa
Nearest Host City
Gdansk

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Team Base Camp
a) Hotel Olandia, Miedzychod
b) Hotel Palac Wiejce, Miedzychod
Training Ground
Municipal Stadium Miedzychod
Nearest Host City
Poznan

a)
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/8753/62800357.jpg

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b)
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Team Base Camp
Hotel Remes Sport & Spa, Opalenica
Training Ground
Municipal Stadium Opalenica
Nearest Host City
Poznan

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Team Base Camp
Hotel Krol Kazimierz, Pulawy
Training Ground
Municipal Stadium Pulawy
Nearest Host City
Warsaw

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http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/9625/30465885.jpg

http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/1218/49196495.jpg

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Team Base Camp
Hotel Dolina Charlotty Resort & Spa, Slupsk
Training Ground
Municipal Stadium Slupsk
Nearest Host City
Gdansk

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/4551/31875246.jpg

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/3177/62543496.jpg

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/5614/42875883.jpg

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/8441/34864634.jpg

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/918/49166552.jpg

*********************

Team Base Camp
Hotel Piramida, Tychy
Training Ground
a) Municipal Stadium Sosnowiec
b) Training Ground Paprocany
Nearest Host City
Wroclaw

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/6568/28887075.jpg

http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/3900/90652884.jpg

http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/5512/99666541.jpg

http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/2064/63648745.jpg

a)
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/4344/71031693.jpg

**********************

Team Base Camp
Hotel Sielanka, Warka
Training Ground
Training Ground Sielanka
Nearest Host City
Warsaw

http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/4623/96185557.jpg

http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/3651/68530750.jpg

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/5602/37807804.jpg

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/5743/64362860.jpg

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/4568/37866857.jpg

tomibaranek

January 20th, 2011, 01:54 PM

Team Base Camp
Hotel Dwor Oliwski, Gdansk
Training Ground
Municipal Sport Centre Gdansk
Nearest Host City
Gdansk

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/671/68026499.jpg

http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/6453/59975773.jpg

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/3646/99686563.jpg

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/3130/89684558.jpg

http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/4397/56573249.jpg

*********************

Team Base Camp
a) Hotel Nadmorski, Gdynia
b) Hotel Haffner, Gdynia
Training Ground
Municipal Sport Centre Gdynia
Nearest Host City
Gdansk

a)
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/9779/36870644.jpg

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/2774/36082636.jpg

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/9114/76268312.jpg

b)
http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/8717/37332777.jpg

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/1525/22220921.jpg

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/8071/42129634.jpg

http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/9902/22374120.jpg

**********************

Team Base Camp
Hotel Mistral Sport, Gniewino
Training Ground
Municipal Stadium Gniewino
Nearest Host City
Gdansk

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/2664/22426353.png

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/2475/62990262.jpg

http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/3538/11948722.jpg

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/6527/75108552.jpg

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/531/65510440.jpg

**********************

Team Base Camp
Hotel Pałac Wojanów, Jelenia Gora
Training Ground
Municipal Stadium Jelenia Gora
Nearest Host City
Wroclaw

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/8390/48008257.jpg

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/6065/54366516.jpg

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/3345/60435241.jpg

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/7250/13463216.jpg

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/412/24598544.jpg

**********************

Team Base Camp
Hotel Uroczysko, Kielce
Training Ground
Municipal Stadium Kielce
Nearest Host City
Warsaw

http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/64/90812584.jpg

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/825/43790637.jpg

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/9251/60228250.jpg

http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/2258/51069371.jpg

http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/1158/42788244.jpg

*********************

Team Base Camp
Hotel Marine, Kolobrzeg
Training Ground
Municipal Stadium Kolobrzeg
Nearest Host City
Poznan

http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/2180/62519808.jpg

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/3551/98072053.jpg

http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/6017/23850130.jpg

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/3752/89821785.jpg

http://img602.imageshack.us/img602/5833/53567019.jpg

*********************

Team Base Camp
Hotel Radisson Blu, Krakow
Training Ground
Municipal Stadium Wisla Krakow
Nearest Host City
Wroclaw

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/4936/81399363.jpg

http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/5568/58797778.jpg

http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/956/21945484.jpg

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/5674/37145215.jpg

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/1287/53292560.jpg

***********************

Team Base Camp
Hotel Warszawianka Wellness & Spa, Legionowo
Training Ground
Municipal Stadium Legionowo
Nearest Host City
Warsaw

http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/5202/22479765.jpg

http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/7040/69952631.jpg

http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/6484/54335822.jpg

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/7940/50834565.jpg

http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/3582/81058863.jpg

*********************

Team Base Camp
Hotel Spa Dr Irena Eris Wzgorza Dylewskie, Lubawa
Training Ground
Municipal Stadium Lubawa
Nearest Host City
Gdansk

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/9087/32834624.jpg

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/4121/74107701.jpg

http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/6731/54445528.jpg

http://img547.imageshack.us/img547/7015/47003657.jpg

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/492/92139520.jpg

********************

Team Base Camp
a) Hotel Olandia, Miedzychod
b) Hotel Palac Wiejce, Miedzychod
Training Ground
Municipal Stadium Miedzychod
Nearest Host City
Poznan

a)
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/8753/62800357.jpg

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/7379/52548548.jpg

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/1374/17824725.jpg

b)
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/8747/23208779.jpg

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/2592/73386560.jpg

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/8963/57801594.jpg

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/7564/46678707.jpg

**********************

Team Base Camp
Hotel Remes Sport & Spa, Opalenica
Training Ground
Municipal Stadium Opalenica
Nearest Host City
Poznan

http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/5682/34925147.jpg

http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/6168/98962978.jpg

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/9871/38444269.jpg

http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/8086/12558119.jpg

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/5806/64295728.jpg

********************

Team Base Camp
Hotel Krol Kazimierz, Pulawy
Training Ground
Municipal Stadium Pulawy
Nearest Host City
Warsaw

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/707/23502546.jpg

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/9457/33453570.jpg

http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/5292/37571716.jpg

http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/9625/30465885.jpg

http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/1218/49196495.jpg

**********************

Team Base Camp
Hotel Dolina Charlotty Resort & Spa, Slupsk
Training Ground
Municipal Stadium Slupsk
Nearest Host City
Gdansk

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/4551/31875246.jpg

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/3177/62543496.jpg

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/5614/42875883.jpg

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/8441/34864634.jpg

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/918/49166552.jpg

************************

Team Base Camp
Hotel Piramida, Tychy
Training Ground
a) Municipal Stadium Sosnowiec
b) Training Ground Paprocany
Nearest Host City
Wroclaw

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/6568/28887075.jpg

http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/3900/90652884.jpg

http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/5512/99666541.jpg

http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/2064/63648745.jpg

a)
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/4344/71031693.jpg

********************

Team Base Camp
Hotel Le Meridien Bristol, Warsaw
Training Ground
Municipal Stadium Polonia Warszawa
Nearest Host City
Warsaw

http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/7950/61429219.jpg

http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/8319/63790903.jpg

http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/842/25600330.jpg

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/7979/81214897.jpg

http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/7485/77915011.jpg

***********************

Team Base Camp
Turowka Hotel & Spa, Wieliczka
Training Ground
Municipal Stadium Cracovia, Krakow
Nearest Host City
Wroclaw

http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/1870/79301053.jpg

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/9704/20204923.jpg

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/5286/18141155.jpg

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/6404/31019133.jpg

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/7760/31742029.jpg

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Team Base Camp
Hotel Velaves Spa & Resort, Wladyslawowo
Training Ground
Municipal Stadium Puck
Nearest Host City
Gdansk

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/4869/45026878.jpg

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/7650/86655082.jpg

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/2429/51664056.jpg

http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/9407/69554724.jpg

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/1117/65398852.jpg

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Team Base Camp
Hotel Monopol, Wroclaw
Training Ground
Municipal Stadium Oporowska Wroclaw
Nearest Host City
Wroclaw

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/5990/36353027.jpg

http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/6179/27521448.jpg

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/7805/48984695.jpg

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/9062/97577738.jpg

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/6735/22498215.jpg

^^^^ Presentations prepared by Cyganie :applause:

paprys81

January 20th, 2011, 02:11 PM

ok, but I don't get why did you post the same presentations few times? Can you just delete first two posts and leave the last one? Anyway - polish team bases are amazing!

lizander

January 20th, 2011, 04:56 PM

Michalr

January 20th, 2011, 05:17 PM

Cracow have a big airport !

wholagun

January 20th, 2011, 06:16 PM

get rid of the duplicate photos.

wholagun

January 20th, 2011, 06:20 PM

Poland to make stadiums hooligan proof

20th January 2011
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Cameras will cover every inch of Poland's Euro 2012 stadiums

Courtesy of Lechia.pl

Top of the line monitoring systems are to be installed at all Euro 2012 sports facilities in Poland to help police crack down on hooligans. Cameras will be recording everything that goes on at gates, box offices, on the tribunes and on the field, Dziennik Gazeta Prawna writes.

The images will be of a high quality, comprising at least 950 pixels and a frequency of at least 12 frames per second. All this to be able to quickly identify potential hooligans based on their faces registered on video. Microphones will also be recording sounds.

The recordings can become evidence if, for example, racist remarks are shouted out, said Stefan Dziewulski, safety expert with PL.2012. Undercover policemen and stewards will be on hand.

Most heavily monitored will be sports fans in Wrocław. The city's stadium has a capacity of 43,000 and will have around 500 cameras installed at a cost of about zł.800,000. The National Stadium in Warsaw, which can hold 55,000 sports fans, will have 400 cameras. The price of a single camera ranges from zł.2,000 to zł.10,000.

DGP recently discovered that over 2,000 hooligans have been punished with a binding prohibition of entry into sports stadiums. In most of these cases, a ruling was possible thanks to recordings from existing, less precise monitoring systems.

Poland AM

http://wbj.pl/article-52863-poland-to-make-stadiums-hooligan-proof.html?typ=wbj

double-u

January 20th, 2011, 06:47 PM

Cracow have a big airport !

And what about Kolobrzeg? 200 km to Gdansk and 220 to Poznan (in straight line...)

Ulyssis

January 20th, 2011, 08:03 PM

I don't get it how Cracow for example could be a training base for any host city. It's at least over 200 km from nearest host city. I don't think that any team would be happy about travelling 2-3 hours by bus to the stadium ( I don't suppouse they will use plains fo this)

I understand , there will be two types of bases: permanent base of a team , and temporary base for a days or so, just before the game. In Ukraine some of the bases are much further than 200 km from the host city. Say, Odesa or Sevastopol.

DocentX

January 21st, 2011, 11:53 AM

New expressway opened in Warsaw :cheers:

gqVCN576UZ4

Some photos taken before the opening:

http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/3674/p1020086ai.jpg

http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/7936/p1020095l.jpg

http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/1708/p1020123j.jpg

Robotsx

January 21st, 2011, 08:54 PM

Next page... Sorry, but this is impossible to watching.
Tomibaranek: Great presentation, but the way, how you did it, is simply terrible :bash:

wyborczy

January 21st, 2011, 09:53 PM

^^
I completly agree with you! 0.o

Inferious

January 21st, 2011, 10:26 PM

looks like poland is ready with training camp preparations. nice job!

FrostB

January 22nd, 2011, 12:46 AM

looks like poland is ready with training camp preparations. nice job!

Poland was ready with it a long time ago.

kotasik

January 22nd, 2011, 12:57 AM

del

DiggerD21

January 22nd, 2011, 05:04 PM

(hoping that the next page appears now)

Is there already rumours which teams would choose which base camp in case they qualify for the EURO?

J@nek

January 22nd, 2011, 05:34 PM

Koleje MAzowieckie has ordered additional 16 Elf Trains. All 16 trains will be delivered by the end of this year.

Link:
http://www.2012.org.pl/pl/miasta-gospodarze/warszawa/aktualnoci/33941-koleje-mazowieckie-kupi-16-qelfowq.html

Cracovia

January 22nd, 2011, 11:28 PM

(hoping that the next page appears now)

Is there already rumours which teams would choose which base camp in case they qualify for the EURO?

Germans and Dutch were visiting Krakow, Spain the Mazurian lake district, thats all i heard

J@nek

January 24th, 2011, 04:36 AM

We are 500 days away from the opening game in Warsaw !!:)

slodziak

January 24th, 2011, 03:46 PM

PGE Arena Gdansk:
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/hs034.snc6/166402_10150384658980424_487587700423_16733668_7398320_n.jpg

salto_angel

January 24th, 2011, 03:57 PM

Wrocław, by Zygmunt August (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/member.php?u=87853):

http://wroclaw.hydral.com.pl/foto/365/365799.jpg

http://wroclaw.hydral.com.pl/foto/365/365800.jpg

:cheers:

DocentX

January 27th, 2011, 10:36 AM

Warsaw airport - southern pier

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1360.snc4/163229_181656941874231_112367258803200_397733_1231124_n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1380.snc4/163229_181656951874230_112367258803200_397736_8087514_n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1384.snc4/163662_181657081874217_112367258803200_397738_5744071_n.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1364.snc4/163662_181657085207550_112367258803200_397739_2831260_n.jpg

Gdańsk airport - second terminal under constr :

http://www.airport.gdansk.pl/img_inpc/3a1931d946b63398031f747f.jpg

http://img.trojmiasto.pl/zdj/fotki_duze/22000/z22079.jpg

Wrocław airport - second terminal under constr:

http://www.airport.wroclaw.pl/euro2012/g3504.jpg

http://www.airport.wroclaw.pl/euro2012/g3506.jpg

http://www.airport.wroclaw.pl/euro2012/g3507.jpg

http://www.airport.wroclaw.pl/euro2012/g3509.jpg

Łódź airport - new terminal

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/5351/20110118125430.jpg

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/3550/20110118125549.jpg

salto_angel

January 27th, 2011, 03:17 PM

Wroclaw stadium update:

Kto chce lotnicze? :)

Fot. Marek Przybyło, Aeroklub Wrocławski
http://www.e2012.eu/pl/stycze%C5%83_2011-_budowa_stadionu_/2144/2/
http://www.e2012.eu/_img/800/3926.JPG

http://www.e2012.eu/_img/800/3927.JPG

http://www.e2012.eu/_img/800/3928.JPG

więcej w źródle...

And airport:

http://www.e2012.eu/pl/stycze%C5%83_2011-_budowa_terminala_lotniskowego/2142/2/

Fot. Marek Przybyło, Aeroklub Wrocławski

http://www.e2012.eu/_img/800/3914.JPG

więcej u żródła

wholagun

January 27th, 2011, 03:22 PM

looks like wroclaw staidum has picked up the pace, are they back on track yet?
do we know yet what the name of wroclaw staidum will be ?

salto_angel

January 27th, 2011, 03:26 PM

^^ Well, since they changed the company to Max Boegl, they are on track. The stadium and the infrastructure around will be 100% ready on October 2011. However, the stadium itself will be used for games from end of July.

The name is not known. The tender for it has not been issued yet.

delfin_pl

January 27th, 2011, 05:24 PM

Meanwhile in Gdańsk - most beautiful stadium for Euro 2012.

http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/1221/gdanskaktualny1024t.jpg

panthiocodin

January 27th, 2011, 07:47 PM

gdansk stadium is pretty impressive - owesome staff

Quicksilver

January 27th, 2011, 09:44 PM

New public transport in Kharkiv with Euro 2012 logos on the sides:

http://transphoto.ru/photo/03/70/69/370692.jpg

http://transphoto.ru/photo/03/70/73/370731.jpg

paprys81

January 27th, 2011, 10:39 PM

Meanwhile in Gdańsk - most beautiful stadium for Euro 2012.

http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/1221/gdanskaktualny1024t.jpg

National Stadium in Warsaw is more beautiful ;) It's more original and complex, in my opinion :)

Harisson

January 27th, 2011, 10:48 PM

Lviv

http://i003.radikal.ru/1101/e3/c46bf775c56b.jpg

http://i039.radikal.ru/1101/81/b384f9928c65.jpg

http://s39.radikal.ru/i085/1101/53/76c98b6b9175.jpg

http://s16.radikal.ru/i190/1101/9b/94010f841219.jpg

http://stadion.lviv.ua/ua/stadium_in_Lviv_from_south_side_17_01_2011

Dimms

January 29th, 2011, 12:10 AM

Meanwhile in Gdańsk - most beautiful stadium for Euro 2012.

Well, arguably the most gorgeous stadium for Euro 2012 is this one:

http://shakhtar.com/data/imgdata/galeries/1799/67095__max_gal.jpg

Here we go, not quite a construction updates but just a few nice pics of the Olimpiysky National Sports Complex:

http://photoe.kiev.ua/Photos/2011.01.25-Esplanada/IMG_0570_SM.jpg

http://photoe.kiev.ua/Photos/2011.01.25-Esplanada/IMG_0571_SM.jpg

http://photoe.kiev.ua/Photos/2011.01.25-Esplanada/IMG_0580_SM.jpg

Harisson

January 29th, 2011, 02:13 AM

Olympic Stadium in Kyiv will also look good at night :)

http://s015.radikal.ru/i333/1101/50/e176dd8dd2fc.jpg

Ulyssis

January 29th, 2011, 10:00 PM

Donetsk and Gdansk are typical "smooth" designs of stadiums which has actually exploited in society's eyes... it looks modern but too symmetrical and too ideal. Today people start to prefer more original and complex designs ;) and so do I :D That's why I love Warsaw Stadium. There is so many stadiums that are really original in their designs like Wembley, "Bird's Nest" in Beijing. Those kind of structures are future ;)

Those make strong first impression. But not all organic in the long run. I don't mean Warsaw or Bird's Nest here. Wembley and some stadia in SA are questionable landmarks.

maxblueman

January 31st, 2011, 12:39 PM

Gdansk

http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/5747/org3l.jpg
http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/7016/org2r.jpg
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/7176/orgphp.jpg

Ulyssis

January 31st, 2011, 04:15 PM

It's certainly right thing to start a vote to get rid of the spam here. But isn't it to early to judge? Only 3 stadia have their final appearance. The rest is still a construction mess.

Svercer

January 31st, 2011, 04:29 PM

Agreed. How the hell can you rate Lviv or Wrocław stadium? It's kinda visualisations poll...

DocentX

January 31st, 2011, 05:11 PM

New Solaris tram in Poznan :

http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/3/9025/z9025193X.jpg

http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/2/9025/z9025192X.jpg

http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/9/9025/z9025189X.jpg

V_etas

January 31st, 2011, 05:12 PM

I'm living close to ukrainian border and unfortunately know how look road to Lviv. I hope it will be better :cheers:

That you see near border with Poland is a small part of Ukraine, the poorest and backward. Now there new roads and an infrastructure are constructed. To 2012 will be the big changes. If you that didn't see is doesn't mean that it isn't present. In general, the best roads are in Donbass and in the Donetsk

DocentX

January 31st, 2011, 06:40 PM

Warsaw - modernization of 'Warszawa Centralna' train station:

http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/8/9032/z9032438Z,Galeria-wschodnia-od-strony-ul--Emilii-Plater--Widac.jpg

http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/9/9032/z9032439X,Montaz-kamery-w-hali-glownej-dworca.jpg

http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/3/9032/z9032443X,Remontowany-peron-trzeci-Dworca-Centralnego--widoczne.jpg

Svercer

January 31st, 2011, 07:19 PM

That you see near border with Poland is a small part of Ukraine, the poorest and backward. Now there new roads and an infrastructure are constructed. To 2012 will be the big changes. If you that didn't see is doesn't mean that it isn't present. In general, the best roads are in Donbass and in the Donetsk

Maybe, but don't you think that the western region roads will be much more exploited during the tournament? Those great roads, you are talking about, will be used only by supporters travelling to Donetsk, or Charkiv, whereas almost all of them (with the exeption of Belarus, Romania or Russia fans, which is max.5% of all), who will come to Ukraine during Euro 2012 will have to pass the Lviv region and whole western Ukraine. I just can't imagine how such amount of cars could drive through that path. I was riding bike 3 times on that roads, so I know what I am talking about. Really guys, don't take it offensive, but I hope they have some plans for it, because those roads are out of rate.

Chef

January 31st, 2011, 09:47 PM

V_etas

January 31st, 2011, 11:53 PM

Maybe, but don't you think that the western region roads will be much more exploited during the tournament? Those great roads, you are talking about, will be used only by supporters travelling to Donetsk, or Charkiv, whereas almost all of them (with the exeption of Belarus, Romania or Russia fans, which is max.5% of all), who will come to Ukraine during Euro 2012 will have to pass the Lviv region and whole western Ukraine. I just can't imagine how such amount of cars could drive through that path. I was riding bike 3 times on that roads, so I know what I am talking about. Really guys, don't take it offensive, but I hope they have some plans for it, because those roads are out of rate.

sorry...1 liter of Napaleon....:bash:...Donbass the most densely populated region of Ukraine... It is a lot of cars here... A lot of transit transport... Here roads are under construction for decades... Europe is not architecture and a geographical position... The East of Ukraine is much closer to the European Union, than the West of Ukraine

Inferious

February 1st, 2011, 12:43 AM

sorry...1 liter of Napaleon....:bash:...Donbass the most densely populated region of Ukraine... It is a lot of cars here... A lot of transit transport... Here roads are under construction for decades... Europe is not architecture and a geographical position... The East of Ukraine is much closer to the European Union, than the West of Ukraine

no. hes talking about Western Ukraine which is closer to Poland. u have things confused

Sylver

February 1st, 2011, 02:41 AM

Krótki filmik od spółki Euro Poznań 2012 :)
ck2s6tXT2hE
Video

Serggio

February 1st, 2011, 09:26 AM

no. hes talking about Western Ukraine which is closer to Poland. u have things confused
V_etas meant not the geographical closeness, but the maturity of infrastructure.

Wigner

February 1st, 2011, 09:31 AM

sorry...1 liter of Napaleon....:bash:...Donbass the most densely populated region of Ukraine... It is a lot of cars here... A lot of transit transport... Here roads are under construction for decades... Europe is not architecture and a geographical position... The East of Ukraine is much closer to the European Union, than the West of Ukraine

:nuts: What are you talking about. Donbass is industrial region which is unfortunately very polluted and dirty. Not even close when you compare it to Europe.

dp_feeZf@ker

February 1st, 2011, 09:32 AM

WTF, where is Dnipro-Arena?? The first stadium that was built for Euro, unfortunatily my city had lost the chance to host championship when UEFA made its decision on 2009.

dp_feeZf@ker

February 1st, 2011, 09:35 AM

The East of Ukraine is much closer to the European Union, than the West of Ukraine

Words of the real Patriot, but unf-ly it's not objective..

Dimms

February 1st, 2011, 10:29 AM

Those great roads, you are talking about, will be used only by supporters travelling to Donetsk, or Charkiv, whereas almost all of them (with the exeption of Belarus, Romania or Russia fans, which is max.5% of all)

Russia itself can easily bring an amount of fans as twice as that youve mentioned. And btw, do you actually believe that all the supporters will arrive by cars, eh?

Words of the real Patriot, but unf-ly it's not objective..

In terms of economic conditions, he's totally correct.

It's certainly right thing to start a vote to get rid of the spam here. But isn't it to early to judge? Only 3 stadia have their final appearance. The rest is still a construction mess.

Agree. I guess we'll get more unbiased results in a year..

Harisson

February 1st, 2011, 11:44 AM

External screens Metalist will be informed about upcoming games and tickets sold

http://s41.radikal.ru/i091/1101/78/ced5ce16f944.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)

http://s42.radikal.ru/i098/1101/c8/0d108855e4b0.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)

http://i042.radikal.ru/1101/9f/2c293e226574.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)

V_etas

February 1st, 2011, 12:48 PM

Maybe, but don't you think that the western region roads will be much more exploited during the tournament? Those great roads, you are talking about, will be used only by supporters travelling to Donetsk, or Charkiv, whereas almost all of them (with the exeption of Belarus, Romania or Russia fans, which is max.5% of all), who will come to Ukraine during Euro 2012 will have to pass the Lviv region and whole western Ukraine. I just can't imagine how such amount of cars could drive through that path. I was riding bike 3 times on that roads, so I know what I am talking about. Really guys, don't take it offensive, but I hope they have some plans for it, because those roads are out of rate.

Attempt number two... Now on sober)))... Good roads are necessary everywhere... You aren't right about 5 %... At Russia and Belarus a visa-free regime with Ukraine... Every year millions Russians and Belarussians go on rest to Ukraine...For example, my godmother lives in Rostov and every year goes on vacation to Ukraine... I think that 50 % of visitors in 2012 will be from Russia and Belarus... How you think, through what cities and regions people will go on Winter Olympic games 2014, the World championship on football to Russia?... Correctly... Through Donetsk and Kharkov... And fans, will play whose national teams Donetsk and Kharkov, will go through all Ukraine...

Svercer

February 1st, 2011, 02:23 PM

Three roads from Lviv to Poland border will be repaired and one new built
Good to hear.
Russia itself can easily bring an amount of fans as twice as that youve mentioned.

I know Russia is huge country etc., but it doesn't fully measure the supporters potential. They can bring same number of fans as for example Germany at maximum. Furthermore it's one from fifteen (I don't count Ukraine) qualifiers. If you want, it's maybe 10%, but it doesn't change the fact that majority of people will come from West. There is also, a little but possible, threat that Russia won't qualify, but Slovakia or Irleand will. Moreover, even if they qualify, there is 50% possibility that they will play in Poland, not in Ukraine. Then count how many of fans will come from East.

And btw, do you actually believe that all the supporters will arrive by cars, eh?
Now I'm talking about only those ones, 'eh'?
Attempt number two... Now on sober)))...
I said to not take it offensive.

Good roads are necessary everywhere...
Agree.

You aren't right about 5 %... At Russia and Belarus a visa-free regime with Ukraine... Every year millions Russians and Belarussians go on rest to Ukraine...For example, my godmother lives in Rostov and every year goes on vacation to Ukraine...
Up.

I think that 50 % of visitors in 2012 will be from Russia and Belarus...

Sure thing, Belarusians are world supporting power.

How you think, through what cities and regions people will go on Winter Olympic games 2014, the World championship on football to Russia?... Correctly... Through Donetsk and Kharkov... And fans, will play whose national teams Donetsk and Kharkov, will go through all Ukraine...
Geez, you are negating yourself. To go through Donetsk and Kharkov to Sochi, they firstly have to pass Lviv .

Btw V_etas, I was learned that we are ending a sentence by a one dot. Is it different in Ukraine?

V_etas

February 1st, 2011, 03:47 PM

Geez, you are negating yourself. To go through Donetsk and Kharkov to Sochi, they firstly have to pass Lviv .

I agree. In the west Ukraine new roads are constructed. I have simply given more attention to my region

Btw V_etas, I was learned that we are ending a sentence by a one dot. Is it different in Ukraine?

(…) — a punctuation mark in the form of several points put nearby. In most cases designates incomplete thought or a pause.

Poul_

February 1st, 2011, 04:51 PM

traffic control in Ukraine:
slfvCN-5gIo
:lol:

Ulyssis

February 1st, 2011, 05:01 PM

V_etas meant not the geographical closeness, but the maturity of infrastructure.

Well, sometimes money don't matter. For instance Chernivtsi is one of the poorest regions in Ukraine, and Donetsk is one of the richest (and powerful, too). But Chernivtsi has much more european feel, not only because of architecture.

Kozhedub

February 1st, 2011, 05:28 PM

Well, sometimes money don't matter. For instance Chernivtsi is one of the poorest regions in Ukraine, and Donetsk is one of the richest (and powerful, too). But Chernivtsi has much more european feel, not only because of architecture.
Ukrainian regions are very different and each of them has its advantages and disadvantages. So it's no use of arguing.

GrimFadango

February 1st, 2011, 05:57 PM

To be honest, if I was a tourist/supporter during Euro 2012 (or any other massive event) the last transportation I'd use would be a car.

Traffic jams are inevitable, possible problems with parking and safety in some places plus the main problem - you can't celebrate a vitory (or defeat) and drive the next day. Besides three group matches in, lets say, Poznań, then driving to see quaterfinals in Gdańsk, then semis in Warsaw... Such trips are usually more tiring than entertaining for most people.

Trains/planes + urban transportation:

home -> station/airport -> hotel -> stadium/fan zone -> pub/etc. -> hotel -> any other place (...) -> station/airport -> home :)

Besides, host cities and other main cities (like GOP or Kraków in Poland) provide all necessary infrastructure.

petrosnatevara

February 2nd, 2011, 12:43 AM

I love Donetsk and Gdansk Stadiums!! Impressive both!

6opuC

February 3rd, 2011, 12:21 AM

Donbass Arena

We can experience infrared heating at first hand in November
24-01-11 09:52:05

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/9391/72608fullnews.jpg (http://img515.imageshack.us/i/72608fullnews.jpg/)

As we reported previously, a unique and expensive infrared gas heating project for warming the stadium stands is currently underway at the Donbass Arena. After about two years spent on designing and having the superb plan approved by the corresponding state agencies, the stadium’s facilities department went ahead with the project fulfillment.

The first project implementation stage provides for delivery of Schwank equipment from Germany to Donetsk , with the outside feeding gas main being laid thereafter.

“The point is that the gas main feeding our power park is designed for the current volume of gas consumed by the stadium,” Vadim Gun'ko, the Facility Director at the Donbass Arena explains. “After we introduce the infrared heating system the aggregate gas consumption will surge to 1,500 m3/hour during a match (for 2.5-3.5 hours). Correspondingly, we had to review the gas main feeding project. The pipeline having greater diameter will be laid anew due to the project demand. We also scheduled assembly of the new gas-distribution point. It will allow us to actuate the heating system in cold weather, without worrying about any potential gas pressure drop. Moreover, the park landscaping will hardly undergo any major changes since we intend to replant only few trees in order to properly lay the pipeline.”

Then, the domestic gas pipeline will be attached to the roof, with the burners put on, the power cabling laid, the alarm and automation systems installed.

“Just recently we received the final approval for the project, and now we are about to negotiate the equipment supply with Schwank. This February we are to sign the corresponding contract to have the equipment delivered to the stadium within two to three months. We will also run a tender for assembly work and select the preferred bidder. After that the system will be assembled to become operable in November 2011,” the Facility Director concluded.

Despite the construction and assembly jobs scheduled at the venue which is in operation (making us align the work with the stadium event schedule), Vadim Gun’ko is confident that the infrared heating system will have been assembled and tested before it gets cold for the FC Shakhtar fans to feel themselves even more comfortable at the country’s top football stadium

mdhookey

February 3rd, 2011, 08:41 AM

Sadly, it seems that there are still serious problems between UEFA and Ukraine, this time not about infrastructure, but about internal football politics:
http://www.thenews.pl/international/?id=148604

At this point, I can't imagine UEFA stripping Ukraine of the Euro 2012, after all the progress made in its stadiums and other various infrastructural projects. I know the threat is there, but could it really happen?

V_etas

February 3rd, 2011, 09:04 AM

6opuC

February 3rd, 2011, 09:19 AM

said fan of Shakhtar^^ :)

V_etas

February 3rd, 2011, 09:24 AM

said fan of Shakhtar^^ :)

It is told by all Ukraine! If not Surkis the Shakhtar earlier and more time would be the champion (we never we will forget to him a computer goal)... And Dnepr would be the champion in the nineties.

Well won't remove Surkis now. So will remove in a year. There is nothing worse expectation inevitable ))))

vanbasten

February 3rd, 2011, 09:44 AM

we never we will forget to him a computer goal

NEVER!!! :mad:

Donetsk Airport
http://s54.radikal.ru/i144/1102/d1/6f6eaea4640d.jpg

http://www.altcom.ua/images/gallery/64/00000002.jpg

http://www.altcom.ua/images/gallery/64/00000003.jpg

http://www.altcom.ua/images/gallery/64/00000004.jpg

http://www.altcom.ua/images/gallery/64/00000005.jpg

http://www.altcom.ua/images/gallery/64/00000006.jpg

http://www.altcom.ua/images/gallery/64/00000007.jpg

http://s61.radikal.ru/i173/1102/e1/b0cf5c492547.jpg

http://www.altcom.ua/gallery/64

6opuC

February 3rd, 2011, 10:00 AM

It is told by all Ukraine!

To be honest. I dont think that the man who hates another f.club could be dispassionate about it. As I know mr Rinat Achmetov (Shakhtar owner) is not an angel.

V_etas

February 3rd, 2011, 10:33 AM

To be honest. I dont think that the man who hates another f.club could be dispassionate about it. As I know mr Rinat Achmetov (Shakhtar owner) is not an angel.

maybe to us from here is more visible, than to you? Or you as the americans considering right in all questions

And I wrote it not as the fan

6opuC

February 3rd, 2011, 11:07 AM

Maybe yes, maybe not. :). I didnt said that Surkis is saint. But I dont belive that All Ukraine agrees with truth of oligarchs from east.

V_etas

February 3rd, 2011, 11:21 AM

Maybe yes, maybe not. :). I didnt said that Surkis is saint. But I dont belive that All Ukraine agrees with truth of oligarchs from east.

You are casual not the Ukrainian from the western Ukraine living in Poland? And that sounds as from meeting of orange revolution... Fie on it

DocentX

February 3rd, 2011, 01:46 PM

Wrocław stadium and motorway bridge under construction:

http://www.adamwalanus.pl/horyzont/a0b14fy.jpg

Wrocław airport - terminal 2

http://www.e2012.eu/_img/800/3914.JPG

Gdańsk stadium

http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/4254/img8251panorama.jpg

Gdańsk airport - terminal 2

http://img.naszemiasto.pl/grafika2/nowy/1f/63/4d4a85129f3ef_g1.jpg

http://img.naszemiasto.pl/grafika2/nowy/ad/03/4d4a854304925_g1.jpg

http://img.naszemiasto.pl/grafika2/nowy/35/59/4d4a84e060304_g1.jpg

sek

February 3rd, 2011, 03:43 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nh4roGBm5Ac

DocentX

February 3rd, 2011, 06:13 PM

Poznań stadium

by Carte:

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/9049/img9075z.jpg

http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/8329/img9092j.jpg

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_k5z02XxN2eY/TUmB7eYHxCI/AAAAAAAABGA/wMc7x83UOI0/s720/IMG_9078.JPG

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_k5z02XxN2eY/TUmB86OPxUI/AAAAAAAABGA/xBy7phCRsA4/s720/IMG_9079.JPG

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_k5z02XxN2eY/TUmCNn_nOVI/AAAAAAAABGA/FbaJg_YruX8/s720/IMG_9126.JPG

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_k5z02XxN2eY/TUmCYqexm2I/AAAAAAAABGA/VRpk7FVLt9k/s720/IMG_9185.JPG

Qyiv

February 3rd, 2011, 09:12 PM

Hlopcy, wy znayete, chy bude zaliznychne spoluchennia mizh Ukrainiyu i Polscheyu? Chy mozhna bude z Warshawy doyihatu do Lwowa?

Guys, do you know about railways between Ukraine and Poland? Will it be possible to take an express between Warshaw and Lviv?

At the moment, Ukraine is implementing trains with speed 150 km/hour between our cities. It could be nice to integrate it with Polish railway infrastructure.

Qyiv

February 3rd, 2011, 09:29 PM

I just can't imagine how such amount of cars could drive through that path. I was riding bike 3 times on that roads, so I know what I am talking about. Really guys, don't take it offensive, but I hope they have some plans for it, because those roads are out of rate.
Planuyut wytratyty miliard dolariw na dorogu w Lwiwskomu regioni (Galychyni).

Bilshist wboliwalnykiw pryletiat litakami. Tomu scho do Donetska duzhe daleko yihaty awtomobilem.

Guys, just imagine, there is about 1500 kilometers distance between Paris and Warshaw. And there can be a lot of people driving from Europe. But there are about 1500 kilometers between Warshaw or Polish border and Donetsk. It's too much to drive. It makes the way double longer. So, I think, most people will take an airplane or train. At the moment, train from Kyiv to Lviv cost about 12 Euro for 550 kilometers which is cheap for Europe. When new train is implemented - it will be faster to take a train 4-4,5 hour for 25 Euro then drive another 550 kilometers.

Just imagine situation when you have 3 matches. 1 Warshaw, 2 Donetsk, 3 Gdansk every 3rd day :)))))

Nadril

February 3rd, 2011, 11:32 PM

ophizer

February 4th, 2011, 09:00 PM

At the moment there are direct train connections between Wrocław, Kraków and Lviv. I think that there will be some additional connections opened for EURO2012 but our government decided not to modernise rail track number 7 which goes Warsaw-Lublin-Ukrainian border. On the other hand I read about plans to connect Warsaw with Ukraine by Chełm because there is broad gauge track that connects this city with Ukraine so it is a great place for switching carts from ones that operates on standard infrastructure to ones that operate on yours, wider one.

Sad, remember just a year ago, there were discussions about connecting Berlin, Warsaw and Lviv (at least for the euros, eventually Kyiv too) with a high speed rail service. This would have required Ukraine to build narrow gauge tracks. It would have been doable to, at least, connect Lviv as it's less than 100 km to the Polish border.

Ulyssis

February 4th, 2011, 11:14 PM

Guys!

Be realistic. At present, train service from Lviv to Krakow takes 6+ hours. And that's good news. They use unique SUW-2000 variable gauge system.

Having an EuroCity train covering this distance in 4 hours would be a revolution.
In addition to substantial infrastructure upgrade this would require sorting out border control and customs issues.

And I don't even mention Kyiv-Warsaw rail service which is a disgrace for 21st century.

Those are just not priorities for UZ and PKP.

Deo

February 4th, 2011, 11:59 PM

http://lorenc.home.pl/central3/1.jpg
http://lorenc.home.pl/central3/17.jpg
http://lorenc.home.pl/central3/40.jpg
By Sławek (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=292018&page=412)

paprys81

February 5th, 2011, 01:29 AM

it's still so far to the final effect, but finally it looks a bit brighter now :D

Darhet

February 5th, 2011, 01:34 AM

^^
before
http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/8/4693/z4693768X.jpg
after
http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/8/9032/z9032438Z,Galeria-wschodnia-od-strony-ul--Emilii-Plater--Widac.jpg

Kozhedub

February 5th, 2011, 02:13 PM

All football Ukraine wants Surkis's resignation. Because FFU has wallowed in corruption. Using office position it lobbies interests of the Dynamo Kiev. Surkis hides behind backs FIFA and UEFA. It not an act of the real man
Do you seriously think corruption will be lower when Donetsk men palm over Ukrainian football? It's not the people we must change at the head of FFU, but the whole management system!

Qyiv

February 5th, 2011, 06:38 PM

Sad, remember just a year ago, there were discussions about connecting Berlin, Warsaw and Lviv (at least for the euros, eventually Kyiv too) with a high speed rail service. This would have required Ukraine to build narrow gauge tracks. It would have been doable to, at least, connect Lviv as it's less than 100 km to the Polish border.
Or, Maybe, they put wider railroad on Polish and German part of the way :)))))
It's too expensive to build additional road just for one train :))))
It's better to take one train through Ukraine and then change it in Holm, for example. Holm is approximately on a half way between Kyiv and Berlin :))))

Petr

February 6th, 2011, 10:02 AM

^^
Holm? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holm :sleepy:

Qyiv

February 6th, 2011, 02:09 PM

^^
Holm? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holm :sleepy:
Yeah,
Cholm is a town which was founded by Roman, prince of Wolyn-Halych principality :))))))

PiesNaKomuchow

February 6th, 2011, 03:17 PM

6opuC

February 6th, 2011, 05:44 PM

Chelm belonged to the Polish, and Kievan Rus' many times. Danilo Romanovich Prince built a castle here in the 1237th and moved here capital from Galich.

but long before there were guys from over the Bug river. The Slavic tribe of Buzhans. They were in the city already in 981 year.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Che%C5%82m

nv2

February 6th, 2011, 07:01 PM

Fantastic info about Chelm! But it have something with euro2012 preparations?

maxblueman

February 6th, 2011, 08:42 PM

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/3310/p1090004o.jpg

http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/5817/p1090003.jpg

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/4096/p1090005v.jpg

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by Gorallo

Ulyssis

February 7th, 2011, 06:51 AM

What is the material they are using for covering Gransk stadium?

JeV

February 7th, 2011, 07:31 AM

Polycarbonate. Its one of polymers (type of plastic)

DocentX

February 7th, 2011, 10:28 AM

Warsaw

http://czarnota.org/gallery/albums/2011/2011_02_06_-_001_-_Warszawa_-_Stadion_Narodowy_-_budowa.jpg

http://czarnota.org/gallery/albums/2011/2011_02_06_-_002_-_Warszawa_-_Stadion_Narodowy_-_budowa.jpg

Gdansk

Filmik z dziś 6-luty 2011 w HD

tOJjSC3wbY8

Wroclaw

http://img.godfath3r.com/20110205/stadion-3.jpg

Qyiv

February 7th, 2011, 01:35 PM

You claim that lands for Ukraine too, dont you?;)
nope

Fantastic news, my life will not be the same any more till now i know that!!:D Thanks @Qyiv... i hope You fell better now;)

yepp, you made me smiling :)

I have just said that it's our old city :)
Nowadays, national border is almost the same as state border, so no reason to change anything :)

m-m

February 7th, 2011, 03:58 PM

^^ Yeah, what else? Ukrainians founded Paris, Chicago and Honolulu... You claim that lands for Ukraine too, dont you?;) Fantastic news, my life will not be the same any more till now i know that!!:D Thanks @Qyiv... i hope You fell better now;)

Well,
why beeing angry about city names translations?...

We Poles also translate city names as Paryż (Paris), Rzym (Roma), Mediolan (Milano), Nowy Jork (New York), Lwów (Lviv), Budziszyn (Bautzen), Chociebuż (Cottbus), Norymberga (Nurnberg), Kolonia (Koln), Ratyzbona (Regensburg), Monachium (Munchen), Pekin (Beijing), Dżakarta (Jakarta), and more, and more...:)

The same, Ukrainians can say Holm (Chełm)

V_etas

February 7th, 2011, 05:22 PM

Today. Road to Donetsk. New road and after reconstruction.

4EdvBlovv6E

BtyIvSwHu0U

Kozhedub

February 7th, 2011, 05:44 PM

It would be better if they cleaned it from snow.

slushay backi

February 7th, 2011, 07:23 PM

nope

yepp, you made me smiling :)

I have just said that it's our old city :)
Nowadays, national border is almost the same as state border, so no reason to change anything :)

That far as I know there was no such a country like Ukraine science XX century, and that far as i know there is no such a country like Kievan Rus today. So what means our old city?

Qyiv

February 7th, 2011, 07:39 PM

^^ don't troll me, men :)
the same could be said about Poland :)

Ulyssis

February 7th, 2011, 07:57 PM

Wroclaw

http://img.godfath3r.com/20110205/stadion-3.jpg

Will this "drapery" stay the way it is? Looks rather lame... It's a pitty they opted for cheap "wrapping" exterioor for such a beautiful arena.

raskolnikow

February 7th, 2011, 08:00 PM

the same could be said about Poland :)

I doubt it.

But this OT is useless anyway

nv2

February 7th, 2011, 08:15 PM

Today. Road to Donetsk. New road and after reconstruction.

4EdvBlovv6E

Oh! This is what I so much like in Ukraine. So much open speace without any facilitates in the sight.

kotasik

February 7th, 2011, 08:17 PM

del

Qyiv

February 7th, 2011, 10:45 PM

I doubt it.

no doubt, men :)

Qyiv

February 7th, 2011, 10:49 PM

I love Donetsk and Gdansk Stadiums!! Impressive both!
Yeah, they are cool

Qyiv

February 7th, 2011, 10:50 PM

New Solaris tram in Poznan :

http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/3/9025/z9025193X.jpg

Is it a new line? How much money did Goverment spent for it? :)

ophizer

February 7th, 2011, 11:07 PM

kotasik

February 8th, 2011, 08:49 AM

del

George Cantstandya

February 8th, 2011, 09:16 AM

We can not compare colour (now is grey, but will become white due to UV) or completeness. Could you name those differences? Is tension to small, or transparency to high? "Lame" (from Ulyssis) or "let's hope there is more to it" (from you) doesn't tell us what is wrong in you opinion.

I'm trying to reserve judgement until it's complete, but it's hard not to be a little dissapointed so far. It looks dirty. Like it's been through a sand storm.
http://www.rediscover.co.uk/Images/Libya/desert/Libya_desertCamp_tents.JPG

I'm hoping for the best because I love the renders and as a Pole living in Canada, I want Poland to really impress the world.

Ulv

February 8th, 2011, 09:29 AM

no doubt, men :)

:ohno:
Don't compare Polish and Ukrainian history, it doesn't make any sense.

Anyway - stadium in Warsaw is totally amazing, i voted for it. The second one is Gdansk (but of course we will see after completion). I don't like Donetsk stadium - looks like a big hall of Tesco in my opinion (sorry). Rest of them are neutral, but not bad.

Harisson

February 8th, 2011, 10:28 AM

Lviv Airport

http://zik.com.ua/gallery/full/a/e/aero_1_49c84.jpg

http://s16.radikal.ru/i191/1102/48/284a155dcf26.jpg

http://s52.radikal.ru/i136/1102/5f/c7f22e4a7a0c.jpg

http://s015.radikal.ru/i332/1102/93/056ed9fab838.jpg

http://i039.radikal.ru/1102/e4/7487eb130124.jpg

http://i024.radikal.ru/1102/9d/ea2dd6eacc47.jpg

http://s56.radikal.ru/i151/1102/5a/a191297154c7.jpg

http://uaeuro2012.com/content/view/1438/1/

Tomesh

February 8th, 2011, 10:29 AM

How did you expect this "drapery" to look like? Have you seen visualisations? (ie: http://lh5.ggpht.com/_oqbRmRY70A0/THT-njmuVXI/AAAAAAAAA_c/vNbQ2kCKiBA/006_wro2012_2.jpg)

Now it looks like one of those skin coloured bandages that is slightly washed out. I really liked the whole idea in the beginning and I hope the execution does not bring it down. Will they do something with the colour ? I also think its maybe its a bit too transparent, the general material doesn't look very advanced, also maybe something could be done with how it covers the horizontal beams.

Ulv

February 8th, 2011, 10:39 AM

Now it looks like one of those skin coloured bandages that is slightly washed out. I really liked the whole idea in the beginning and I hope the execution does not bring it down. Will they do something with the colour ? I also think its maybe its a bit too transparent, the general material doesn't look very advanced, also maybe something could be done with how it covers the horizontal beams.

3 posts before......

We can not compare colour (now is grey, but will become white due to UV) or completeness.

Harisson

February 8th, 2011, 12:07 PM

del

slushay backi

February 8th, 2011, 01:37 PM

^^ don't troll me, men :)
the same could be said about Poland :)

Thet far as I know there was Principality and after that Kingdom of Poland, then it change during tehe existence in XVII c. to RP, then after 100 years of ocupation it backs as a II RP (this same name, this same story, this same history), then PRP (name chenge a little to People's Republic of Poland) and now is III RP.

What about Ukraine? there was no such a country. XVII c. cossacks (outlaw people from the step) from some Lithuenian therytory known as Ukraine made an uprising against Rusian Prince (succesor of Kieven Russia) named Ярема Вишневецький. Ukraine become country at XX century.

am i wrong?

nice photos of Lviv Airport

Pher

February 8th, 2011, 01:42 PM

will those grey panels stay in the Gdansk's elevation?

slushay backi

February 8th, 2011, 01:49 PM

Is it a new line? How much money did Goverment spent for it? :)
Actually nothing. The administrative division of Poland is a bit different than you think. If this is Poznan's line then Poznan pays for it, so it means that local government pays for it. It doesn't come directly from the budget.

Look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Administrative_divisions_of_Poland (Administrative divisions of Poland)

For example national stadium in Warsaw is national so it means, that national(not the local) budget pays for it. Local stadium in Poznan is Poznan's property, and not national, so it means, that Poznan pays for it.

EDIT:
I owe you some explanations actually . It's true what I wrote above in generally, but there is some exception about stadiums for Euro2012 only. There is special act of law about Euro2012 which guarantee that government(so budget of the country) covers 30% costs of stadium. It's only for stadiums for Euro2012 and only for this infrastructure. Rest of cost is covered by local governments, so it is 70% costs of stadiums for Euro2012 with exception for national stadium in Warsaw which I mentioned above.

Whole rest of infrastructure in cities is covered by local governments from they own money. OK, I have to mention EU founds are great support for infrastructure, but stadiums are not finance by EU fonds at all from what I remember.

Qyiv

February 8th, 2011, 07:23 PM

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am i wrong?

yes you are.
Totally manipulation.

But since, you are very easy to be damaged by trolling and if I troll you more - we can go farther into arguing, which is not primary topic of this branch. So, I will not continue.
However, I like historical discussion and we can continue somewhere else.
Privat or skype :)

Qyiv

February 8th, 2011, 07:29 PM

Actually nothing. The administrative division of Poland is a bit different than you think. If this is Poznan's line then Poznan pays for it, so it means that local government pays for it. It doesn't come directly from the budget.

So many words.
I have asked guys have much money does it cost. I don't care which budget owns it.

Qyiv

February 8th, 2011, 07:34 PM

Guys, look at this.
One guys painted alternative logo
http://vizitnews.ru/wp-content/uploads/vn100084-2.jpg

Official logo is so standard, boring without national colloquies :)))))

uunxx

February 8th, 2011, 08:20 PM

the same could be said about Poland :)

You really don't know what you are talking about.

Kozhedub

February 8th, 2011, 08:22 PM

Thet far as I know there was Principality and after that Kingdom of Poland, then it change during tehe existence in XVII c. to RP, then after 100 years of ocupation it backs as a II RP (this same name, this same story, this same history), then PRP (name chenge a little to People's Republic of Poland) and now is III RP.

What about Ukraine? there was no such a country. XVII c. cossacks (outlaw people from the step) from some Lithuenian therytory known as Ukraine made an uprising against Rusian Prince (succesor of Kieven Russia) named Ярема Вишневецький. Ukraine become country at XX century.

Bohdan Khmelnytsky was a nobleman, like Vyshnevetskyy. They were both Ukrainian noblemen, but when Ukrainian people wanted to separate from Poland Khmelnytsky joined them and Vyshnevetskyy decided to stay together with Rzecz Pospolita. Leaders of cossack state were mostly noblemen, who descended from Kiev Rus. So you can't say Ukrainian cossack state had nothing in common with Kiev state.

Kozhedub

February 8th, 2011, 08:23 PM

Yes, of course, I'm naive, amn't I?

uunxx

February 8th, 2011, 08:55 PM

Ukrainians say Kievan Rus was Ukraine, Russians say it was Russia but in reality it was neither of them, the same as Great Moravia was not Czech state nor Slovak or better to say Roman Empire was not Italy. I was just base for several countries that exist today. Sure, you may disagree, but there's really not such doubt about Poland, nowadays Poland is straight continuation of Poland from 10th century. Poland is called Poland since 11th century, when it was sovereign country, and now it's still Poland. Only for about 10% of its history Poland was fully partitioned between other nations. So it's completely different case than Ukraine, incomparable.

Maurycy

February 8th, 2011, 09:40 PM

Yes, of course, I'm naive, amn't I?

sorry, i love that word;)

Ulyssis

February 8th, 2011, 10:04 PM

Guys, stop this please! You know perfectly well how to transform this thread to a total polytical/historical mess, and you are doing exactly that.

Qyiv

February 8th, 2011, 11:04 PM

Guys, please, stop talking about history.
We have understood Polish possession that country name is important point for history :) Italian guys should cross out Romain Empire times from their history and Romanians should add it to their :)

But let's get back.
It was started when I called Polish town "Holm", which is exactly like it is pronounced in Ukrainian and means "the Hill" :)))))
So, I can google how it should be written in Polish and use it :)
I don't care.

Is it enough to close this discussion? We really have to do it, in order to prevent arguing here.

However, I like such arguing and can replay to anyone who is dare enough to write me in private :))))))

PS. General topic about history.
History means nothing for real life. Why?
Example, Messopotamia (Iraq) has very nice history, many years, first civilasation, first wrtitten symbols, powerful army. But now they are conquered by US.
US has no history. 200 years history is nothing for many years
But now US is the biggest country.

Messopotamia/Iraq, or Greece - the same. Roman Empire had big civilasation but nowdays Italia is not that powerful as German or Britain (barbarians which romans fight).
So, do you still think history means something? I think, not really :))))))

Husarz

February 9th, 2011, 12:12 AM

So, do you still think history means something? I think, not really :))))))

History is everything, but to a people lacking it or having a very undesirable one i guess it makes sense to say it means nothing.

slushay backi

February 9th, 2011, 08:59 AM

So many words.
I have asked guys have much money does it cost. I don't care which budget owns it.

Is it a new line? How much money did Goverment spent for it? :)

Compare it. You asked how much money government did spent for it, so you should be glad that somebody wanted to explain you how it works in Poland.

It is normal that you do not know internal organization of Poland like I do not know ukrainian, but you make mistakes if you compare it. For you those things are only details, but believe me it makes big differences when you look at it closer. It is not just simply thing.

Now you know that government did not spend any money for new trams in Poznan.

slushay backi

February 9th, 2011, 09:16 AM

yes you are.
Totally manipulation.
Totally manipulation is that your las president "Juszczenko" believed some of ukrainian historians that Ukraina is 5000 years old(even longer than Chinese civilization). Totally manipulation is that your UPA which commit genocide on Wolyn are heroes. This is manipulation.

But since, you are very easy to be damaged by trolling and if I troll you more - we can go farther into arguing, which is not primary topic of this branch. So, I will not continue.
However, I like historical discussion and we can continue somewhere else.
Privat or skype :)
No, I did not started to talk about Holm and that is old ukrainian town or something. I do not troll you either. I just saw something which you started on international forum and I answered for it. It was my duty because I am Polish and it touched history of my country. I know that I am not wrong and I know what kind of manipulation and bull[...] your historians pun in "ether".
It is not that we can speak on skype, because you did not put your words on skype but in public so it means, that I want to prove that you are wrong in public. It is not offensive from my side or any trolling. You started to speak about polish-ukrainan history on football forum, which is really sad for me, and now you want to let it go with your false point of view.

Sorry, but what did you expected when you started to speak about Holm. Anyway my country(Poland) is over 1000 years old, and Ukraina shown itself after USSR collapsed. What you do compare, man...

slushay backi

February 9th, 2011, 09:27 AM

Guys, please, stop talking about history.
We have understood Polish possession that country name is important point for history :)
If some country exists then it has a name. It is simply and that is why it is important.

Italian guys should cross out Romain Empire times from their history and Romanians should add it to their :)
Italians are not citizens of Roman empire. Roman empire does not exist anymore, and even Italians can say It to you.

But let's get back.
It was started when I called Polish town "Holm", which is exactly like it is pronounced in Ukrainian and means "the Hill" :)))))
It is not strange. 30% of old forms of words in your language come from polish language...

So, I can google how it should be written in Polish and use it :)
I don't care.
Me to, but it does not mean, that Chełm is old ukrainian town. you did not exist in this period of time.

Is it enough to close this discussion? We really have to do it, in order to prevent arguing here.
Yes it is, but stop to talk about old ukrainian towns. Then everybody will be happy.

However, I like such arguing and can replay to anyone who is dare enough to write me in private :))))))
I like too. We will see. Why not... ;)

PS. General topic about history.
History means nothing for real life. Why?
Example, Messopotamia (Iraq) has very nice history, many years, first civilasation, first wrtitten symbols, powerful army. But now they are conquered by US.
US has no history. 200 years history is nothing for many years
But now US is the biggest country.
It is not how big or small you are. It is about your identity, and It has very big matter.

Messopotamia/Iraq, or Greece - the same. Roman Empire had big civilasation but nowdays Italia is not that powerful as German or Britain (barbarians which romans fight).
So, do you still think history means something? I think, not really :))))))
You write about history and civilization. It is nor really important what happened with Roman empire because it does not touch my identity really much, but when you write about polish history, then it is completely different. ;)