EURO 2012: Poland and Ukraine Stadia and Infrastructure [Archive] - Page 32

ufonut

November 10th, 2011, 04:30 PM

Some Pics of Warsaw Frederic Chopin Airport underground railway station that is due to open mid 2012. Train link will be available between Warsaw Frederic Chopin Airport- Warsaw City Center-Warsaw Modlin Airport.

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=509299789#!/media/set/?set=a.279832255390032.71093.112367258803200&type=3

Here they are:

Się zmęczę i wkleję ;)
http://warszawa.gazeta.pl/warszawa/5,34862,10621294,Stacja_na_lotnisku__czesc_juz_gotowa__Zobacz.html

http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/0/10621/z10621290X,Stacja-kolejowa-pod-lotniskiem-Okecie-jest-juz-czesciowo.jpg

http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/6/10621/z10621286X,Windy-pozwola-sie-dostac-na-stacje-z-powierzchni.jpg

http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/2/10621/z10621292X,Przejscie-podziemne-w-strone-podziemnych-peronow-stacji.jpg

http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/8/10621/z10621288X,Tak-stacja-kolejowa-na-lotnisku-wyglada-na-powierzchni.jpg

http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/1/10621/z10621291X,Zejscie-na-stacje-kolejowa-na-lotnisku.jpg

http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/9/10621/z10621289X,Na-stacje-pod-lotniskiem-prowadza-tez-ruchome-schody.jpg

http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/5/10621/z10621285X,Zejscie-na-stacje-kolejowa-na-lotnisku.jpg

http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/4/10621/z10621284X,Kasy-biletowe-w-przejsciu-na-perony-podziemnej-stacji.jpg

http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/3/10621/z10621283X,Przejscie-podziemne-w-strone-podziemnych-peronow-stacji.jpg

http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/2/10621/z10621282X,Wejscie-na-stacje-kolejowa-na-Okeciu.jpg

TarasUA

November 10th, 2011, 05:26 PM

http://posulka.at.ua/kol2.jpg

Ulyssis

November 10th, 2011, 06:08 PM

Here they are:

The train station at WAW looks nice. Will there be any intermediate stops in the city? What is the projected travel time?

J@nek

November 10th, 2011, 07:05 PM

The train station at WAW looks nice. Will there be any intermediate stops in the city? What is the projected travel time?

Yes, there will be intermediate stops between Warsaw Frederic Chopin airport and Warszawa Centralna (the train will definitely stop at Warszawa Zachodnia and a few other stops). The travel time will be around 20 mins if I am not mistaken, between the airport and the city center.:)

J@nek

November 10th, 2011, 08:11 PM

Some nice photos of Wrocław's new passenger terminal (for some reason I can't upload them directly on here, if someone can, please do so).
http://imageshack.us/f/221/09112011107f.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/f/546/09112011106.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/f/412/09112011110.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/f/213/09112011109.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/f/850/09112011111.jpg/

J@nek

November 10th, 2011, 08:24 PM

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don.lpz

November 10th, 2011, 08:36 PM

Some nice photos of Wrocław's new passenger terminal (for some reason I can't upload them directly on here, if someone can, please do so).
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/4783/09112011107f.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/221/09112011107f.jpg/)

http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/2144/09112011106.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/546/09112011106.jpg/)

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/5781/09112011110.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/412/09112011110.jpg/)

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/8538/09112011109.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/213/09112011109.jpg/)

http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/9679/09112011111.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/850/09112011111.jpg/)
here you are

J@nek

November 10th, 2011, 08:39 PM

Thanks Bud :cheers:

drowningman666

November 10th, 2011, 09:34 PM

I wonder if this Wroclaw terminal will ever be opened

salto_angel

November 11th, 2011, 08:44 AM

I wonder if this Wroclaw terminal will ever be opened

April 2012.

drowningman666

November 11th, 2011, 11:46 AM

April 2012.
so let's just keep thumbs up for it. this terminal is really crucial for Wroclaw

lpftv

November 11th, 2011, 02:23 PM

Kyiv stadium - main UEFA EURO 2012 arena

10/11/2011

http://2012ua.net/_nw/85/16411115.jpg
http://2012ua.net/_nw/85/79174950.jpg
http://2012ua.net/_nw/85/75946293.jpg

http://2012ua.net/news/zbirni_ukrajini_ta_nimechchini_viprobuvali_nsk_olimpijskij_foto/2011-11-11-8549

^^
more photos ;)

Harisson

November 11th, 2011, 04:11 PM

Running tracks will be BLUE
Will look like with finish coating:

http://radikal.ua/data/upload/6895e/c2184/7e4152c302.jpg

mphws

November 11th, 2011, 04:36 PM

Kyiv stadium - main UEFA EURO 2012 arena

Looks realy great and huge! Congrats :)

AdrianSuvalkai

November 11th, 2011, 07:03 PM

Blue track will be great, but without this yours stadium is really cool.

Eno

November 12th, 2011, 03:41 AM

Yeah, the blue running track is a great idea.

lpftv

November 12th, 2011, 11:30 AM

Arena-Lviv, 5 days till friendly Ukraine vs. Austria

http://stadion.lviv.ua/upload/pub/lviv_stadium/2011/11/10/Arena_Lviv_1.jpg
http://stadion.lviv.ua/upload/pub/lviv_stadium/2011/11/10/Arena_Lviv_9.jpg

ewild

November 12th, 2011, 11:43 AM

11-11-11
NSK Oplympic opening match
Ukraine 3-3 Germany
mMyrHWB-LY0

p.s. 11+11+11=33

Sylver

November 12th, 2011, 05:29 PM

Good match :)

Gatsby

November 12th, 2011, 06:42 PM

typically Slavic, score 3 goals, sit on your laurels and let the Germans equalize;)

Cubo99

November 13th, 2011, 03:38 PM

are already known stadiums which will be used as training venues ??

Homem

November 13th, 2011, 04:57 PM

Baxon79

November 13th, 2011, 05:38 PM

Hi there, any pics about Modlin airport construction, updates..?
Same question about Lublin airport ( I know this one is not directly related to Euro 2012, but impossible to catch the info in the polish speaking forum).
Thanks.

Some pics from Modlin Airport (passenger terminal):
http://www.modlinairport.pl/index/article/id/213/

and Facebook page:
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Lotnisko-WarszawaModlin/162415420492173

Torba

November 13th, 2011, 05:40 PM

NSC Olympic, Kyiv

http://pics.livejournal.com/kubikus_rubikus/pic/0016ytr4

http://photoe.kiev.ua/Photos/2011.11.13.NSK.Olymp/IMG_1570_SM.jpg

http://photoe.kiev.ua/Photos/2011.11.13.NSK.Olymp/IMG_3530_SM_Elektraua.jpg

http://photoe.kiev.ua/Photos/2011.11.13.NSK.Olymp/IMG_3576_SM_Elektraua.jpg

http://photoe.kiev.ua/Photos/2011.11.13.NSK.Olymp/IMG_2570_SM.jpg

Vanaheim

November 13th, 2011, 06:32 PM

and Facebook page:
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Lotnisko-WarszawaModlin/162415420492173

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/302605_224164244317290_162415420492173_611983_1882497407_n.jpg

Nice :cheers:

opMAX

November 13th, 2011, 07:59 PM

http://photoe.kiev.ua/Photos/2011.11.13.NSK.Olymp/IMG_3625_SM_Elektraua.jpg

EPIC!
:cheers:

Parriah

November 13th, 2011, 09:32 PM

Yeah! NSC Olympic is very nice stad! Fantastic foto!

lpftv

November 14th, 2011, 10:11 AM

Arena-Lviv 2 days before first football match

http://stadion.lviv.ua/upload/comments/1321254817.jpg
http://stadion.lviv.ua/upload/pub/lviv_stadium/2011/11/13d/stadium_lviv_2012_65.jpg
http://stadion.lviv.ua/upload/pub/lviv_stadium/2011/11/13d/stadium_lviv_2012_67.jpg

More photos and info get here:

http://stadion.lviv.ua

Rafis

November 14th, 2011, 12:14 PM

Arena-Lviv 2 days before first football match
More photos and info get here:

http://stadion.lviv.ua

Beauty stadium, one of my favourites :cheers:

Harisson

November 14th, 2011, 12:36 PM

Outside:
http://radikal.ua/data/upload/6895e/ba193/82ba9703d2.jpg

http://radikal.ua/data/upload/c2184/69fda/e90ba8e19b.jpg

http://radikal.ua/data/upload/69fda/49112/f19394fa53.jpg

http://radikal.ua/data/upload/6895e/4fa6c/f6624f670c.jpg

http://radikal.ua/data/upload/0fccf/fb1a9/ccbc626f9e.jpg

Mr.Greenfield

November 14th, 2011, 01:04 PM

http://pics.livejournal.com/tov_tob/pic/005xw8b3
by tov_tob

Svercer

November 14th, 2011, 01:45 PM

What was the final cost of Lviv stadium? I'm really suprised in a positive way. I was visiting that building site around July 2009 and at that time there was one big hole in the ground with few trucks around, what is more there were some rumours that there was no money or contractor claimed that there was too little to finish it. At that time I was almost sure that there will be some huge delays and Lviv will have problem to hold Euro in the city, which I would regret very much, as Lviv deserved it. But it hopefully turned out very nicely. Congrats!

salto_angel

November 14th, 2011, 01:52 PM

From the pics it seems that the Lviv Stadium is one of the nicest 30k+ stadiums built recently. The roof and exterior construction make the difference!

Ulyssis

November 14th, 2011, 03:12 PM

lpftv

November 14th, 2011, 03:14 PM

:)

???
...
Arena-Lviv
Poznan
Wroclaw
Kharkiv

i think like that ;)

Ulyssis

November 14th, 2011, 04:08 PM

You mean the cost?

Is Poznan more expensive than Wroclaw?

salto_angel

November 14th, 2011, 04:13 PM

You mean the cost?

Is Poznan more expensive than Wroclaw?

From the latest news it won't be ;) (total costs in Wrocław will be over 800mln PLN, ~200mln EUR).

orland

November 14th, 2011, 04:29 PM

And both Poznan and Wroclaw are more expensive than Gdansk, right?

salto_angel

November 14th, 2011, 04:40 PM

And both Poznan and Wroclaw are more expensive than Gdansk, right?

Nope. The Gdańsk Stadium costs were at the same level, maybe a bit higher (~860mln PLN, ~215mln EUR).

opMAX

November 14th, 2011, 07:30 PM

:)
???
...
Arena-Lviv
Poznan
Wroclaw
Kharkiv
i think like that ;)
You mean the cost?
I think he meant this poll:lol:View Poll Results: The most beautiful for me is:
Charkow 34 2.38%
Donetsk 178 12.47%
Gdansk 462 32.38%
Kyiv 159 11.14%
Lviv 80 5.61%
Poznan 65 4.56%
Warszawa 310 21.72%
Wrocław 139 9.74%
If so, then - +1:cheers:,if not- then this is my own point of view:)

Ulyssis

November 14th, 2011, 11:27 PM

Now that all the stadia took their final shape, I'd say

Warsaw
Donetsk
Gdansk
Kyiv
Wroclaw
Lviv
Poznan
Kharkiv

6opuC

November 14th, 2011, 11:40 PM

rank above posts is not objective. Much more Poles took part on it than others .

wholagun

November 15th, 2011, 12:36 AM

rank above posts is not objective. Much more Poles took part on it than others .

is any poll on SSC objective ? :nuts:

Ulyssis

November 15th, 2011, 02:29 AM

Of course not. Let's simply enjoy the fact that there are 8 excellent stadiums worthy of world cup. And 10+ very decent airports, and many more stuff that would not be here without Euro.

wholagun

November 15th, 2011, 06:32 AM

English talking smack or is the guardian smack on?

Poland and Ukraine lose momentum with issues over shirts and injuries

Kit controversies and player availability aside, the co-hosts at Euro 2012 both hope to make an impact

reddit this

Sachin Nakrani
guardian.co.uk, Monday 14 November 2011 23.00 GMT
Article history

Polish national soccer team press conference
Poland's goalkeepers Wojciech Szczesny, left, and Lukasz Fabianski prepare for the friendly against Hungary on Tuesday. Photograph: Adam Ciereszko/EPA

A nation's preparations for a major tournament can be derailed by many things: player unrest, poor results, political upheaval, to name the most likely. But as Poland moves ever closer to its defining moment of modern times – co-hosting Euro 2012 with Ukraine – its people appear to have stumbled on a new way to throw plans off-track.

With seven months to go before their homeland becomes the centre of Europe's sporting universe Poland supporters are raging at the decision of their football association, the PZPN, to remove the white eagle – the country's oldest national symbol – from the team's kit in favour of its own logo, a less than inspiring red and yellow squiggle.

"Where's the eagle?" chanted the 30,000-plus crowd who gathered at the newly built Municipal Stadium in Wroclaw on Friday to see Poland, wearing their new kit for the first time, lose 2-0 in a friendly with Italy. "Screw the FA!" was another of their cat-calls. Indeed, the atmosphere became so toxic that the Poland captain, Jakub Blaszczykowski, later claimed it had affected the team's display against the 2006 World Cup winners. "We had nothing to do with the decision [to change the badge]," he said. "We're here to play and, if we're not supported, it's a problem for us."

The issue has even reached parliament, with the country's president, Bronislaw Komorowski, adding his weight on Friday, which just happened to be Poland's independence day, to the view that the eagle should never have been removed from the national kit. "This is a symbol that unites us," he said. "It's important for the people. I expect that somebody will explain why this happened."The timing of this PR gaffe – which the PZPN admit originated for purely commercial reasons – is particularly unfortunate, given Poland's form. Prior to Friday they had lost twice in 15 games and, in that period, beaten Argentina 2-1 and drawn 2-2 with Germany. They had scored eight goals in five games prior to the blank against Italy, when they would have scored again had Blaszczykowski converted an 85th‑minute penalty. They next face Hungary, in Poznan, on Tuesday.

The progress is not coincidental. Under Franciszek Smuda, the former defender who took over from Leo Beenhakker in October 2009 after Poland's failure to qualify for last year's World Cup, the team has steadily evolved into an effective counterattacking unit built around a young and stable spine. Arsenal's Wojciech Szczesny is now the established No1 and the Borussia Dortmund trio of Lukasz Piszczek, Błaszczykowski and Robert Lewandowski fill the key positions in defence, midfield and attack.

"Lewandowski is the star of the team," said Maciej Iwanski, a sports commentator for TVP, Poland's largest TV channel. "He has scored many times for Poland since making his debut [13 in 38 appearances] and the nation expects him to score at the Euros. There are worries defensively, mainly at set-pieces but Szczesny is proving to be a reliable keeper. He, too, could be important next year."

The outrage at the new kit aside, excitement is growing among Poles for Euro 2012. Poland's form, allied to home advantage – the team will have played at each of their four host-venue stadiums prior to June – has fuelled belief that they can qualify for the knockout stages of a European Championship for the first time.

That is also the hope inside Ukraine, who, unlike Poland, have never previously taken part at a European championship. For their manager, Oleg Blokhin, however, who took over in April, the concerns right now are purely onfield.

Ukraine's form over the past year has been poor, with the team winning only three of their past 12 games and in that time losing 4-1 and 4-0 to France and Czech Republic, respectively – results that laid bare their defensive frailties. Those were on show again on Friday when Ukraine led 3-1 against Germany at the Olympic stadium in Kiev – where the final of Euro 2012 will be held – before drawing 3-3.

Injuries have been the problem for Blokhin – he was denied 10 players for Friday's friendly – and the 59-year-old will hope that once everyone is fit, his team, who face Austria on Tuesdayon Tuesday, will become sturdier at the back while maintaining a high-pressing approach in attack.

Blokhin's other worry centres around Andriy Shevchenko. The once talismanic striker has been beset by chronic back problems and poor form – the 35-year-old has scored only four times for Dynamo Kyiv this season and once in his last three international matches – and, though he is assured a place in Ukraine's Euro 2012 squad, the former Chelsea forward cannot be relied on to worry opposition defences.

"Blokhin recognises Shevchenko is no longer a cornerstone of the team," said the Ukrainian journalist Oleksandr Sereda. "He is still a leader but there are young players ready to take their place." That includes 22-year-old Andriy Yarmolenko, also of Dynamo Kyiv, who scored twice against Germany. "He is the most talented young player in Ukraine right now," Sereda said. "He can make the difference."

Young hope defines both Poland and Ukraine and, kit controversies aside, they are both looking to make an impact as the first former eastern bloc nations to host a major tournament since 1976. "This is the biggest thing to happen to our country, and maybe Ukraine, too, since independence," said Iwanski. "It's now for the teams to deliver."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/nov/14/poland-ukraine-issues-shirts-injuries?newsfeed=true

TarasUA

November 15th, 2011, 11:59 AM

http://shakhtar.com/data/imgdata/foto/news/104795__full_news.jpg

lpftv

November 15th, 2011, 09:13 PM

15/11/2011 Arena-Lviv first match - Ukraine vs. Austria

Hot&Fresh video:

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polskadan

November 16th, 2011, 12:17 AM

6opuC

November 16th, 2011, 01:11 AM

Amazing videos, stadium, and most importantly, atmosphere!

Could you tell me how much tickets were for that game? I'm just trying to compare because for today's Poland match vs Hungary tickets were 40, 80, or 120 zl and thus was part of the reason of small attendance today in Poznan...that and besides many other things PZPN has done, they tried explaining low attendance due to 'bad weather' ....lol look at the packed stadium in Lviv with the snow, or how about champions league games, weather is not the real reason here.

lack of arms of Poland on t-shirts (last scandal) and bad game with Italians could be the reason in my opinion. I Also think that you shouldn't compare those stadiums becouse Lviv arena has its first match. It always collects big number of visitors.

Ulyssis

November 16th, 2011, 02:15 AM

Amazing videos, stadium, and most importantly, atmosphere!

Could you tell me how much tickets were for that game? I'm just trying to compare because for today's Poland match vs Hungary tickets were 40, 80, or 120 zl and thus was part of the reason of small attendance today in Poznan...that and besides many other things PZPN has done, they tried explaining low attendance due to 'bad weather' ....lol look at the packed stadium in Lviv with the snow, or how about champions league games, weather is not the real reason here.

http://stadion.lviv.ua/upload/comments/1320683230.jpg

2.5 UAH = 1 PLN.

V_etas

November 16th, 2011, 07:12 AM

I'm just trying to compare because for today's Poland match vs Hungary tickets were 40, 80, or 120 zl and thus was part of the reason of small attendance today in Poznan...

12$,24$, 36$ ? is it high price?

Sasza

November 16th, 2011, 09:53 AM

^^
Yes, it is. Our team plays a shit, PZPN have fans in place where the sun doesn't reach etc, etc. They want it - they have it - almost no one in the stadium.

lpftv

November 16th, 2011, 11:15 AM

Arena-Lviv, Ukraine vs. Austria photos

http://i.football.ua/i/pa/1/0x0/46920.image

http://i.football.ua/i/pa/1/0x0/46883.image

http://i.football.ua/i/pa/1/0x0/46880.image

http://i.football.ua/i/pa/1/0x0/46881.image

http://i.football.ua/i/pa/1/0x0/46909.image

football.ua (http://football.ua/gallery/733/46880.html)

wholagun

November 16th, 2011, 11:24 AM

^^
Yes, it is. Our team plays a shit, PZPN have fans in place where the sun doesn't reach etc, etc. They want it - they have it - almost no one in the stadium.

the eagle is returning. My God the stupidity and incompetence of the PZPN is astounding. Nothing shy of TOTAL revolution in the PZPN will fix the sickest man of European Football associations. PZPN is corrupt, incompetent, greedy, arrogant and out of touch.

Sasza

November 16th, 2011, 01:51 PM

^^
An they will be probably trying to tell us that White Eagle disappeared because of Nike. I hope that afer Euro goverment will do something with PZPN.

wholagun

November 16th, 2011, 02:37 PM

^^
An they will be probably trying to tell us that White Eagle disappeared because of Nike. I hope that afer Euro goverment will do something with PZPN.

if the government tries to do anything our national team will be suspended - again! The heads of the national soccer bodies are all buddy-buddy, and they know the heads of the international soccer authority from previous reffing or just dealings. Moreover it's not just Poland; corruption in football is endemic across the board.

Sasza

November 16th, 2011, 03:11 PM

^^
And? We need to heal polish football. No matter cost is.

wholagun

November 16th, 2011, 04:08 PM

^^
And? We need to heal polish football. No matter cost is.

and I agree with you
at the current level the national team is playing at, a one year suspension or so wouldn't change anything.

Ulyssis

November 16th, 2011, 04:20 PM

The real problem is FIFA/UEFA. They are corrupt to their core, and powerfuil enough to give protection to any national association. Any criminal probe or/and government intervention into any national Football association will immediately result in punishment from UEFA/FIFA. Talk about world government...

elHomo

November 16th, 2011, 06:30 PM

12$,24$, 36$ ? is it high price?

Oh, don't look at it this way.
First of all, the prices were ridiculous :nuts: if you will compare them with the skilllevel of our "kickers." Second, if you want to calculate'em and wanna have an idea of how expensive the tickets were, think of it this way - $40, $80, $120. :bash:

wholagun

November 16th, 2011, 08:02 PM

Government to impose eagle on Polish sports strips
16.11.2011 08:30
The government wants to force, by law, national sports teams to wear the traditional Polish eagle on their shirts following the unveiling of Poland's eagle-less Euro 2012 strip.

New
New emblem: photo - PAP/ Bartlomiej Zborowski

An amendment to the Sport Act will be put before parliament on Thursday by the ruling Civic Platform.

"Article 13 of the Sports Act says that Polish representatives have the right to use the national emblem on their shirts. We want a small change - instead of giving 'the right' to use the emblem, Polish representatives will be obligated to use the national emblem on the strips,” Civic Platform MP Andrzej Biernat said at a press conference yesterday.

The unveiling last week of Poland's strip for the Euro 2012 football championships caused outrage among traditionalists when the eagle, with crown, was left off the shirts, replaced by the new symbol of the Polish football association (PZPN) which has a vague and highly stylized eagle on it.

Former football player and captain of the national side Roman Kosecki, who is now a Civic Platform MP, says that having the eagle on the shirt is essential for the players to feel pride in playing for Poland.

“We want the eagle on our breasts because playing for the national side is an exceptional honour that everyone remembers for life,” he said.

“Polish kids dream of playing with an eagle on their chests,” he added.

Agnieszka Olejkowska, spokeswoman for the Polish FA says, however, that the eagle won't be coming back on the shirts any time soon.

“The process of designing the strip lasted 18 months and they will be in use as intended, for two years,” she said.

Poland took to the field for the first time in history without eagles on their shorts when they played Italy last Friday in Wroclaw: the side lost 0 – 2. (pg)

source: IAR

http://www.thenews.pl/1/5/Artykul/58587,Government-to-impose-eagle-on-Polish-sports-strips

wtf so PZPN won't put the eagle back on in spite of popular anger and a law demanding it be present? granted the latter is retroactive and I'm not sure how the Polish legal system would interpret retroactive post facto changes to the legal code.

ufonut

November 16th, 2011, 09:55 PM

Ireland and Portugal will be based in Poland.

DocentX

November 17th, 2011, 12:22 AM

Warsaw new pic :

Z dzisiejszego wieczoru:

http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/8883/pb168922.jpg

http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/6291/pb168909.jpg

J@nek

November 17th, 2011, 08:03 AM

A2 motorway between Nowy Tomyśl and the Polish/German border is to open on Dec. 1st, sooner than expected ;)

Sylver

November 17th, 2011, 03:13 PM

http://www.thenews.pl/1/5/Artykul/58587,Government-to-impose-eagle-on-Polish-sports-strips

wtf so PZPN won't put the eagle back on in spite of popular anger and a law demanding it be present? granted the latter is retroactive and I'm not sure how the Polish legal system would interpret retroactive post facto changes to the legal code.

PZPN has supposedly gave in to the peoples demands and they are "working" on getting the eagle back.

Also Warsaw looks amazing :)

Kozhedub

November 17th, 2011, 04:34 PM

Ireland and Portugal will be based in Poland.

Well, at least they will be visiting Ukraine once or twice during football matches.

Marbur66

November 18th, 2011, 03:24 AM

PZPN has supposedly gave in to the peoples demands and they are "working" on getting the eagle back.

Boo hoo. People are being whiners for no real reason. Legal action would be going too far.

salto_angel

November 18th, 2011, 09:31 AM

Wrocław :)

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http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6053/6350488682_9f05918a69_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/patryk-kizny/6350488682/

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6049/6349742817_d5f9e270ab_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/patryk-kizny/6349742817/

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6042/6350488904_8d8bdcb4d9_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/patryk-kizny/6350488904/

kal323Ci

November 18th, 2011, 11:10 AM

apparently the official ball for euro 2012 leaked out

http://i.wp.pl/a/f/jpeg/27994/pilka_euro2012_design_648.jpeg

Svercer

November 18th, 2011, 05:35 PM

If it's true it looks similar to ball from WC 1998 in France, but it's nothing special I guess.

łuk

November 19th, 2011, 01:39 AM

POLAND WROCŁAW

http://i.imgur.com/r35NK.jpg

SkyscraperCity on city stadium in Wroclaw

youtube
Dla tych, co przegapili, wrzucę jeszcze raz video
Q9f9B6G-yI8

Andreass - dzięki wielkie, twoje zdrowie :cheers:

[QUOTE=adam09;85788930]No to pierwsze zdjęcia drzew :)
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/672/img0328jm.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/20/img0328jm.jpg/)

VIP

http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/3825/dsc0759v.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/269/dsc0759v.jpg/)

http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/1585/dsc0760h.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/811/dsc0760h.jpg/)

http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/4682/dsc0761q.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/28/dsc0761q.jpg/)

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/1299/dsc0762hi.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/38/dsc0762hi.jpg/)

http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/6969/dsc0768pe.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/835/dsc0768pe.jpg/)

http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/6812/dsc0795rj.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/687/dsc0795rj.jpg/)

Eno

November 19th, 2011, 04:41 AM

@salto - that last photo is incredible. Unreal.

J@nek

November 20th, 2011, 07:53 PM

Construction works on Warsaw Modlin Airport are nearing completion. The airport will have one runway, taxiways, apron, nav aids and a passenger terminal. Ryanair has intentions to base up to 10 aircraft in the near future.

Here are the latest pictures, mostly of the passenger terminal.

http://modlinlotnisko.blogspot.com/p/galerie.html

Homem

November 20th, 2011, 11:41 PM

swiatowid

November 21st, 2011, 11:49 AM

If you are asking about Modlin airport, nope. Only bus comunication.

J@nek

November 21st, 2011, 06:52 PM

If you are asking about Modlin airport, nope. Only bus comunication.

That's false, a train link will be available between Warsaw's City Center and the Modlin train station (located a couple of kms away from the passenger terminal). Regular, free bus service will be initially available between the passenger terminal and Modlin train station. With time (after the Euro) the tracks will be extended all the way to the passenger terminal and a train station will be built at the airport.

swiatowid

November 21st, 2011, 08:33 PM

Yeap, J@anek is right. I' ve thought that the question was about new brench which will be built in 2013. And from 2013 there will be direct train connection between Modlin airport - Warsaw - Okęcie airport.

Husarz

November 22nd, 2011, 02:36 PM

Boo hoo. People are being whiners for no real reason. Legal action would be going too far.

Tell the Leaf or Habs fans their Logo is being replaced... you'd see riots on the streets.

Legal action..... all of PZPN should be eliminated for such stupidity shame and embarrassment to the country especially right before the nation hosts the biggest sporting event in its history.

intervention

November 22nd, 2011, 02:50 PM

So are all of the teams based in Poland, so far? Just curious.

lukaszek89

November 22nd, 2011, 03:15 PM

We will know everything after draw probably. For now there is a lot of speculation.

Locke

November 22nd, 2011, 09:08 PM

So are all of the teams based in Poland, so far? Just curious.

I believe the Ukraine may be based in the Ukraine, can anyone confirm?

lpftv

November 22nd, 2011, 09:37 PM

Can somebody make some(10-12) fresh photos of tram line near Wroclaw stadium?

Harisson

November 22nd, 2011, 10:20 PM

So are all of the teams based in Poland, so far? Just curious.
From the Ukrainian news:
Spanish and Dutch are interested in base "Metalist" (http://translate.google.com.ua/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=ru&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ukraine2012.gov.ua%2Fru%2Fnews%2F187%2F50429%2F&act=url)

During the Euro Swedish will live in Kharkiv? (http://translate.google.com.ua/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=ru&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fukraine2012.gov.ua%2Fru%2Fnews%2F187%2F50259%2F&act=url)

Euro 2012: Russian moved to Kyiv (http://translate.google.com.ua/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=ru&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fukraine2012.gov.ua%2Fru%2Fnews%2F182%2F50626%2F&act=url)

Base "Shakhtar" is ideal for Croats (http://translate.google.com.ua/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=ru&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fukraine2012.gov.ua%2Fru%2Fnews%2F187%2F50769%2F&act=url)

But Officially will be known December 8:
The participants of Euro 2012 will have six days after December 2 in Kyiv draw the final stage of the competition in order to finally select a training base for the duration of the tournament.

Mr.Greenfield

November 22nd, 2011, 11:16 PM

Arena-Lviv

http://sportanalytic.com/uploads/images/default/9784_2.jpg

http://sportanalytic.com/uploads/images/default/6657_1.jpg

http://sportanalytic.com/uploads/images/default/9030_3.jpg

http://sportanalytic.com/uploads/images/default/5144_4.jpg

http://sportanalytic.com/uploads/images/default/1700_5.jpg

http://sportanalytic.com/uploads/images/default/6783_6.jpg

http://sportanalytic.com/uploads/images/default/9629_7.jpg

http://sportanalytic.com/uploads/images/default/3105_8.jpg
http://sportanalytic.com/?category=gallery-football_news&altname=arena_lviv_na_vidpochinku_foto401

Rafis

November 23rd, 2011, 04:28 PM

Can somebody make some(10-12) fresh photos of tram line near Wroclaw stadium?

From South(tram + train station)

Kilka zdziśków przystanku zintegrowanego już bez rusztowań.
http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/1368/wiata.jpg

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/5564/tramb.jpg

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/2440/tram2.jpg

Harisson

November 24th, 2011, 12:51 PM

Kyiv

http://cs4934.vkontakte.ru/u6487669/107925146/z_622104be.jpg

http://cs4934.vkontakte.ru/u6487669/107925146/z_f8e8e3ef.jpg
by Tushkan (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/member.php?u=204160)

lpftv

November 25th, 2011, 11:59 AM

"High time to see Ukraine"

EJciSQ6ZQf0

9bALMrIp4OY

Cosmin

November 25th, 2011, 07:48 PM

Enough with the dogs. Stay on topic!

Vanaheim

November 25th, 2011, 07:59 PM

GDANSK Airport

http://www.airport.gdansk.pl/img_inpc/cf367ebecf96bc632d115839.jpg

http://www.airport.gdansk.pl/img_inpc/330feb4fbb031042433d30e1.jpg

http://www.airport.gdansk.pl/img_inpc/72bcf6c9138e64e759adf69b.jpg

http://www.airport.gdansk.pl/img_inpc/afeb6de1eb423db32ca7994b.jpg
from: http://www.airport.gdansk.pl/investments/new-terminal-t2

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/4408/94452262.jpg
by GD 2233J

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x228/beczkarz1/IMG_5110.jpg
by beczkarz

lpftv

November 25th, 2011, 10:00 PM

^^

:yes:

i love it!

Awesome stadium and not so worth airport terminal! ;)

:cheers:

asotUA

November 25th, 2011, 11:36 PM

Enough with the dogs. Stay on topic!

Thank You, sir!

Michał78

November 26th, 2011, 05:20 PM

Śląsk Wrocław-Wisła Kraków. Wrocław Stadium.

http://www.wisla.krakow.pl/_pliki_/zdjecia/1652/13222587737543.jpg
Stadion prezentuje się PIĘKNIE i CUDOWNIE :)
http://www.wisla.krakow.pl/_pliki_/zdjecia/1652/13222587731762.jpg

http://www.wisla.krakow.pl/_pliki_/zdjecia/1652/13222587766385.jpg

http://www.wisla.krakow.pl/_pliki_/zdjecia/1652/13222587784858.jpg
Debiut nowej sektorówki sponsorowanej przez Piasta.

http://www.wisla.krakow.pl/_pliki_/zdjecia/1653/13222660514967.jpg

http://www.wisla.krakow.pl/_pliki_/zdjecia/1653/13222660518560.jpg
Pomysł z podświetleniem schodków, jest po prostu strzałem w dziesiątkę!

http://www.wisla.krakow.pl/_pliki_/zdjecia/1653/13222660513943.jpg

http://www.wisla.krakow.pl/_pliki_/zdjecia/1653/13222660515546.jpg
Zdjęcia oczywiście za wisla.krakow.pl

delfin_pl

November 26th, 2011, 05:34 PM

^^ They spoiled this arena with these pilars on tiers.
Gdańsk T2 looks awesome!

salto_angel

November 26th, 2011, 05:42 PM

^^ They spoiled this arena with these pilars on tiers.
Gdańsk T2 looks awesome!

:lol::lol::lol:

It's good they did not spoil the one tier and did not divide it into two just like they did in Gdańsk. In this way we've got the biggest one-tier footbal stadium in Europe. And it also looks awesome.

;)

delfin_pl

November 26th, 2011, 05:54 PM

^^ Well if you find 44k with two tiers spoiled, then most modern stadiums are spoiled in your opinion. Pilars on tiers do destroy the image of this stadium, according to Gdańsk look at the poll result in this thread :)

Michał78

November 26th, 2011, 06:16 PM

Delfin daruj sobie już te zaczepki bo są po prostu żałosne.

delfin_pl

November 26th, 2011, 06:28 PM

^^ In my city we have a new stadium (Arka) with pillars on tiers and I criticized this as well.

Widur

November 26th, 2011, 06:36 PM

asotUA

November 26th, 2011, 09:34 PM

Loving the pic with babes, come to papa!:smug:

Michał78

November 27th, 2011, 09:55 PM

Warsaw National stadium
http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/6343/111255obrazoyowimg.jpg
(phot. Polex)
http://i41.tinypic.com/34rg13p.jpg
(phot. Noxid ;))

Noxid

November 27th, 2011, 11:53 PM

Second photo is mine, not Polex's. He just glued my 3 photos. Read polish thread carrefully. ;).

Michał78

November 28th, 2011, 01:41 PM

Sorry, im only watching photos in polish thread becouse of Markus's posts :ohno:

Noxid

November 28th, 2011, 05:18 PM

No problem. But remember - there is a function called "ignore".

Svercer

November 28th, 2011, 10:34 PM

The official uefa ball for euro 2012 will be probably called Tango 12. It will be similar to the ball from 1978 WC in Argentina. Idk what it as in common with Poland and Ukraine... Looks like earlier leaks were correct - http://i.wp.pl/a/f/jpeg/27994/pilka_euro2012_design_648.jpeg

Edit: And here it is:

http://euro2008.blox.pl/resource/308215_255333127858888_111368688922000_735585_734518675_n.jpg

http://euro2008.blox.pl/resource/pilka_euro_2012.jpg

Nothing special, imo, unfortunately. Leaks posted above were almost te same like the finished ball.

That name, I thought it might be just a rumour, but it looks like it's not. Simply disgraceful. What an idiot could call ball from Poland&Ukraine - Tango. I see Polish internet boiling soon ;p

Zapaleniec

November 29th, 2011, 12:02 AM

I like this ball, nice colors. :D

Svercer

November 29th, 2011, 12:09 AM

You like white, see. Kidding ;p Whole layout is surely acceptable, but I can't get over the 'name', which is one big joke ;p

wholagun

November 29th, 2011, 01:00 AM

Polish and Ukrainian balls are ugly.

Tango - I don't like it, but I get what they mean by it. Polish Ukrainian tango.

intervention

November 29th, 2011, 02:03 AM

Well they couldn't possibly call it "Polka" - that's Czech!

lukaszek89

November 29th, 2011, 02:09 AM

finally "classic" ball :applause:

wholagun

November 29th, 2011, 03:31 AM

wholagun

November 29th, 2011, 05:47 AM

One thing we haven't been talking much about in this thread is security for the tournament. Some pics I came across from counter terror training for Euro 2012.
http://i55.tinypic.com/35auo3d.jpg
http://i51.tinypic.com/34euexu.jpg
http://i53.tinypic.com/6p6l2w.jpg

Police get new riot gear. 5 500 such riot suits were purchased
http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/0/10718/z10718540X.jpg
I dunno what this vehicle is for but the site said it was Euro related
http://g.forsal.pl/p/_wspolne/pliki/476000/476934-inwestycje-przed-euro-2012-policja-fot-materialy-prasowe-urzedu-miasta.jpg
http://img.interia.pl/motoryzacja/nimg/4/b/Nowe_mercedesy_policji_5490691.jpg
19 of these were ordered for Warsaw. They are set to replace VW vans
http://2.s.dziennik.pl/pliki/875000/875902.jpg
http://img.interia.pl/sport/nimg/m/c/Policja_cwiczyla_przed_5494582.jpg
http://img.interia.pl/sport/nimg/d/5/Policja_cwiczyla_przed_5494580.jpg
http://img.interia.pl/sport/nimg/g/k/Policja_cwiczyla_przed_5494576.jpg
http://img.interia.pl/sport/nimg/6/b/Policja_cwiczyla_przed_5494570.jpg
http://m.onet.pl/_m/7d0b767a18c9fd00537572ef70864b50,5,1.jpg

Polish anti terror squad storming bus.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bm3Rh6p7SfE

Cabaret of Polish police dealing with Euro fans. Is that Ukranian at the end?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=m3ZRPP1cFNw#!

Ulyssis

November 29th, 2011, 06:56 AM

Adidas missed an excellent opportunity to make Poland ball an international hit.

http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs50/f/2009/322/e/5/Polandball__Edge_of_Darkness_by_ego_trippin.jpg

Ukrainian ball would be used in Ukrainian games.

That's (C) ;)

http://wallshq.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Pokeball_Wallpaper_by_krysinello_WallsHQ.com_-500x375.jpg

Dantiscum

November 29th, 2011, 10:49 AM

Cabaret of Polish police dealing with Euro fans. Is that Ukranian at the end?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=m3ZRPP1cFNw#!

That's a native silesian :)

Rohatynets

November 29th, 2011, 01:31 PM

The official uefa ball for euro 2012 will be probably called Tango 12. It will be similar to the ball from 1978 WC in Argentina. Idk what it as in common with Poland and Ukraine... Looks like earlier leaks were correct - http://i.wp.pl/a/f/jpeg/27994/pilka_euro2012_design_648.jpeg

Edit: And here it is:

Nothing special, imo, unfortunately. Leaks posted above were almost te same like the finished ball.

That name, I thought it might be just a rumour, but it looks like it's not. Simply disgraceful. What an idiot could call ball from Poland&Ukraine - Tango. I see Polish internet boiling soon ;p

Tango is a 'family' of official balls and the name has been used couple of times in wc an ec. So after all this might be a good choice, as at least it follows historical legacy.

sampras

November 29th, 2011, 02:05 PM

I dunno what this vehicle is for but the site said it was Euro related
http://g.forsal.pl/p/_wspolne/pliki/476000/476934-inwestycje-przed-euro-2012-policja-fot-materialy-prasowe-urzedu-miasta.jpg

I believe it is a mobile office.

wholagun

November 29th, 2011, 04:03 PM

That's a native silesian :)

holy crap :lol: might as well be Ukrainian far as I'm concerned.

Kakarotto

November 29th, 2011, 08:00 PM

http://euro2008.blox.pl/resource/308215_255333127858888_111368688922000_735585_734518675_n.jpg

http://euro2008.blox.pl/resource/pilka_euro_2012.jpg

Nothing special, imo, unfortunately. Leaks posted above were almost te same like the finished ball.

Comparing to the ugly Roteiro...

http://www.kmbak.cba.pl/Pilki/2004%20Euro%20Cup%20Ball%20-%20Portugal%20-%20Roteiro.jpg

...it's not bad, not bad :) It's really nice. You should be happy dudes :banana:

Why "Tango"? There's an answer in a polish song: "Bo do tanga trzeba dwojga..." :nuts:

Chef

November 29th, 2011, 08:24 PM

That's a native silesian :)
What langusge is it? I didn't understood a word:nuts:

Svercer

November 29th, 2011, 08:52 PM

Tango is a 'family' of official balls and the name has been used couple of times in wc an ec. So after all this might be a good choice, as at least it follows historical legacy.

Agreed, but it has been wc, controled by fifa champs, ball so imo it has nothing in common with euro, where uefa is in charge. I see your point, but arguments are to misty for me. I'm not also convinced by an explanation, that you need 2 guys to dance tango and thats why it's called like that ;p I would call it simply, with some short slavic name, which ppl around te world would easily remember after a few years. Don't really care what would be the name - It could be slavia or something with Carpathian mountains or Bug river - which connects both countries. Anything, but related to our culture, not Argentinian.

Rohatynets

November 29th, 2011, 09:05 PM

Agreed, but it has been wc, controled by fifa champs, ball so imo it has nothing in common with euro, where uefa is in charge.

http://www.balones-oficiales.com/img/tmundial2.jpg

http://www.balones-oficiales.com/img/eur.jpg

http://www.balones-oficiales.com/

:)

uunxx

November 29th, 2011, 09:55 PM

What langusge is it? I didn't understood a word:nuts:

It's Silesian language(if you ask Silesian)/dialect(if you ask anybody else), not sure if it's real or they're joking (maybe some Silesian will tell) but it's sounds like that anyway.

Dantiscum

November 30th, 2011, 01:26 AM

What langusge is it? I didn't understood a word:nuts:

It's ment to be silesian dialect, but a cabaret is ruled by it's own rules and I think they could have mixed it up a little bit :)
It's a dialect of the Polish language or maybe even a seperate language (disputed) spoken by the native silesians in Upper Silesia.
Silesian language (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silesian_language)

Chef

November 30th, 2011, 09:59 AM

That's interesting, thank's guys

paf1

November 30th, 2011, 02:38 PM

del.

jwojcie

November 30th, 2011, 02:47 PM

http://www.gfk-geomarketing.com/fileadmin/newsletter/pressrelease/purchasing-power-europe.html

Ukraine and Poland – UEFA European Football Championship hosts
The Ukrainian economy has been gradually recovering from the last global market crisis. This can be seen in the 2011 increase in per capita purchasing power to €1,761. Among the countries under review, only the Ukraine can boast a two-digit growth rate (based on the revised figures). However, this ranking must be put into context: The Ukraine remains second-to-last in the country rankings in terms of per capita purchasing power. Ukrainians have on average twice as much per capita purchasing power as inhabitants of Moldova, but only 30 percent of the average purchasing power available to the inhabitants of Poland.

Polish households are also profiting from a dynamic economic situation: The country's per capita purchasing power has grown more than that of any of the EU 27 countries. Even so, with a per capita purchasing power of €6,050, Poles have less than 60 percent of the average purchasing power available to inhabitants of Portugal.

The opening match of the UEFA European Championship will take place in the Polish capital of Warsaw, whose per capita purchasing power of €10,266 makes it by far the wealthiest urban district in the country. Inhabitants of Warsaw have almost 70 percent more money at their disposal than the national average. This equates to almost three times as much as the average amount available to inhabitants of the capital of the Ukraine.

Along with the Ukrainian capital, which is to host the final match of the 2011 UEFA European Football Championship, three additional Ukrainian cities will host the upcoming games: Charkiw, Donezk and Lemberg. All of these cities have a comparable level of purchasing power - around 40 percent below the average available to inhabitants of Kiev. Donezk, the most industrialized area of the country, has a per capita purchasing power that is 35 percent higher than the national average. Charkiw, the fourth largest district in the country, has an above-average level of per capita purchasing power, but even so, it is the "poorest" of the other cities that will be hosting the UEFA European Football Championship matches.

The three other Polish locations hosting matches are among the country's ten wealthiest and largest districts and have a purchasing power level around 80 percent of that available in the capital. Posen, the Polish district with the least amount of purchasing power that will be hosting matches, has a per capita purchasing power of just under €8,000, which is around 60 percent of the European average.

http://www.gfk-geomarketing.de/fileadmin/gfkgeomarketing/en/img/press/pp_Europe_2011_2012_match_venues.jpg

kal323Ci

November 30th, 2011, 03:09 PM

hmm I wonder what country this article is from with names like Posen, Breslau, Danzig... I wonder why they have Warsaw instead of Warsau to stay consistent.. but instead all 3cities used to be German and Warsaw wasn't so they used the english name and for other 3 german names.

jwojcie

November 30th, 2011, 03:21 PM

^^
You have the link... it is German company dealing with geomarketing.
They make some nice maps. Though you are right they are inconsistent with naming :)

ufonut

November 30th, 2011, 04:12 PM

Low cost airport in Modlin is nearing completion.

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/388174_237708686296179_162415420492173_650337_696920554_n.jpg

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/388174_237708689629512_162415420492173_650338_1360580892_n.jpg

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/388174_237708692962845_162415420492173_650339_1567862626_n.jpg

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/388174_237708699629511_162415420492173_650340_870820194_n.jpg

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/388174_237708702962844_162415420492173_650341_1154729451_n.jpg

J@nek

November 30th, 2011, 04:21 PM

:eek2: Warsaw's second airport is shaping up beautifully!! Everything looks great!

J@nek

November 30th, 2011, 05:11 PM

Poland gains 120 kms of motorways today :cheers: The A2 between Nowy Tomyśl and German border was opened today!! Poland is now linked with the European highway system in the south and the north (A2 and A4).

Important day in Poland's motorway history today!!

Locke

November 30th, 2011, 10:20 PM

Modlin looks better than I expected, and bring on the motorways, MOAR!!!:P

Don Vito KurDeBalanz

November 30th, 2011, 11:44 PM

J@nek

December 1st, 2011, 12:18 AM

Counting from south to the north highways go as follow: A4, A18, A2 & A6 - the most northern one ;)

Very true, my apologies :cheers:

Sylver

December 2nd, 2011, 12:36 AM

Agreed, but it has been wc, controled by fifa champs, ball so imo it has nothing in common with euro, where uefa is in charge. I see your point, but arguments are to misty for me. I'm not also convinced by an explanation, that you need 2 guys to dance tango and thats why it's called like that ;p I would call it simply, with some short slavic name, which ppl around te world would easily remember after a few years. Don't really care what would be the name - It could be slavia or something with Carpathian mountains or Bug river - which connects both countries. Anything, but related to our culture, not Argentinian.

Yea you're right. The explanation of the tango name that you need 2 people is good but it should have a name related to the hosts :/

Eno

December 2nd, 2011, 03:59 AM

The big day is here folks!

Ulyssis

December 2nd, 2011, 05:19 AM

J@nek

December 2nd, 2011, 07:01 AM

Kyiv Zhulyany (base of Wizz Air)

I wonder, will there be a link between Modlin and Zhulyany by the time of Euro? (nothing will be really "low cost" of at that time, but establishing this route for the future would be great)

http://www.avianews.com/forum/download/file.php?id=2951&mode=view

Definitely not before or at time of the Euro, that is simply too early. I think it would be a good idea in the near future however; in Zhulyany the main low cost operator will be Wizz Air whereas in Modlin, Ryanair plans to base up to 20 Boeing 737s in the next few years. Wizz Air will most certainly not 'feed' Ryanair flights.

The only possibility that exists is for Wizz Air to open the route ONLY and if only Wizz Air moves from Frederic Chopin to Modlin, where it will gradually increase the number of destinations/flights and build a strong operating base. In such case, it would make sense for Ukrainian passengers to travel through Warsaw Modlin onwards, similarly as in the case with Katowice.

asotUA

December 2nd, 2011, 07:35 AM

^No matter how much this is better and a huge improvement than what was there before as seen in the background but I still don't like the design and size of it. Always goes into one and only though which is - Supermarket.
This kind of airport size would be nice for my city's airport. Nice and comfy matching the size of the city and its population.

Svercer

December 2nd, 2011, 01:29 PM

Svercer

December 2nd, 2011, 01:34 PM

Yea you're right. The explanation of the tango name that you need 2 people is good but it should have a name related to the hosts :/

Michał Pol (Polish journalist) said that it might be a 'working' name. But I guess it's rather his own wish, than true.

Sylver

December 2nd, 2011, 02:37 PM

Michał Pol (Polish journalist) said that it might be a 'working' name. But I guess it's rather his own wish, than true.

We'll find out today :)

Ulyssis

December 2nd, 2011, 02:46 PM

Definitely not before or at time of the Euro, that is simply too early. I think it would be a good idea in the near future however; in Zhulyany the main low cost operator will be Wizz Air whereas in Modlin, Ryanair plans to base up to 20 Boeing 737s in the next few years. Wizz Air will most certainly not 'feed' Ryanair flights.

The only possibility that exists is for Wizz Air to open the route ONLY and if only Wizz Air moves from Frederic Chopin to Modlin, where it will gradually increase the number of destinations/flights and build a strong operating base. In such case, it would make sense for Ukrainian passengers to travel through Warsaw Modlin onwards, similarly as in the case with Katowice.

Wizz typically goes wherever Ryan does. So it's an easy guess that they will be moving to Modlin. Just recall how they got pissed off with closing of the Etiuda terminal.

Kozhedub

December 2nd, 2011, 03:03 PM

J@nek

December 2nd, 2011, 04:22 PM

Wizz typically goes wherever Ryan does. So it's an easy guess that they will be moving to Modlin. Just recall how they got pissed off with closing of the Etiuda terminal.

I see you are well informed Ulyssis :) For now Wizz Air is happy at Frederic Chopin, but you are right, they will indeed most likely move to Modlin as a number of advantages exist for a LCC in operating out of Modlin as opposed to Frederic Chopin

-lower airport/nav fees
-ability to operate 24/7 without restrictions

J@nek

December 2nd, 2011, 05:52 PM

You can watch it live (in Polish):

http://www.enjoybydgoszcz.pl/wydarzenia/details/1347-losowanie-grup-euro-2012-transmisja-w-internecie-online-na-zywo

zonq84

December 2nd, 2011, 07:05 PM

Sometimes corruption is not that bad :D

Ulyssis

December 2nd, 2011, 07:14 PM

Poland is really lucky with their group!

P.S. now it does not look like Russia will stay in Ukraine after all.

But Ukrainians will have most fun watching groups B and D ;)

The coolest matches in the group stage will probably be

France-England (Donetsk)
Netherland-Germany (Kharkiv)
Spain-Italy (Gdan'sk)

It's rather ironic that all Eastern Europeans will play in Poland, and most of Western Europe - in Ukraine. Was it ment to be?

J@nek

December 2nd, 2011, 07:16 PM

Poland is really lucky with their group!

:banana:

Ulyssis

December 2nd, 2011, 07:32 PM

You guys also got all PI(I)GS but Portugal ;)

Sylver

December 2nd, 2011, 07:39 PM

We got our dream group so it will be a disgrace if we dont make it out.

J@nek

December 2nd, 2011, 07:39 PM

You guys also got all PI(I)GS but Portugal ;)

Huh??

Ulyssis

December 2nd, 2011, 07:56 PM

Kakarotto

December 2nd, 2011, 08:01 PM

Poland :banana:

Ukraine :(

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/4708/clipboard01nez.jpg
http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/6715/clipboard02ly.jpg

J@nek

December 2nd, 2011, 08:27 PM

C'mon are you from this planet?

PIGS = Portugal, Ireleand(Italy) , Greece , Spain.

The good news, Russians will definitely outspend Germans, French and English combined. I would start stocking up wodka right away.

Yea, I know what 'PIGS' countries are, but out of all of them, we only have one - greece in our group. That's why I asked.

Ulv

December 2nd, 2011, 08:30 PM

Well... looks like Ukraine has mission impossible. But who knows? Wish Poland&Ukraine will make some great surprises :)

zonq84

December 2nd, 2011, 08:31 PM

C'mon are you from this planet?

PIGS = Portugal, Ireleand(Italy) , Greece , Spain.

The good news, Russians will definitely outspend Germans, French and English combined. I would start stocking up wodka right away.

Uhm... we only have Greece out of those teams and I am sure we won't run out of vodka it's Poland after all :D

V_etas

December 2nd, 2011, 08:38 PM

do you think Poland will be able to win over Russia, Greece? Czech Republic?:lol: no chances and last place in group

Sylver

December 2nd, 2011, 08:39 PM

http://cs9905.vkontakte.ru/u7482633/128780906/z_4b9901cd.jpg

Sylver

December 2nd, 2011, 08:39 PM

do you think Poland will be able to win over Russia, Greece? Czech Republic?:lol: no chances and last place in group

Have you seen your group? Ukraine has no chance.

zonq84

December 2nd, 2011, 08:42 PM

do you think Poland will be able to win over Russia, Greece? Czech Republic?:lol: no chances and last place in group

we'll see next year ;)

Ulv

December 2nd, 2011, 08:44 PM

do you think Poland will be able to win over Russia, Greece? Czech Republic?:lol: no chances and last place in group

Why not? We won with these teams many times..?

Ulyssis

December 2nd, 2011, 08:48 PM

Yea, I know what 'PIGS' countries are, but out of all of them, we only have one - greece in our group. That's why I asked.

I was refering to the teams playing in Poland on group stage (A+C)

Interesting observations:

1) Czech will play all their games in Wroclaw. And for them, it's very close to home.
Not sure how many fans will be able to get tickets, though.
For Wroclaw it's not too good: Russian and Greek fans will probably stay in Warsaw, and only make one day trips to Wroclaw. Poles ans Czechs will be simply coming from home for the game.

2) Sweden plays all group games in Kyiv, Netherland- in Kharkiv, Italy in Pozan. So these cyties will probably be bases for their fans.

Now is the good time to return to the issue of the team camps. We know that England was planning to stay in Krakow regardless of the draw. In a funny way, it sorta make sense: with the sequense Donetsk-Kyiv-Donetsk, they would have to move back and forth anyway. But there is a BIG advantage for England to stay in Poland. They will have an excellent excuse for loosing yet another Euro (too much travel, big distances etc). And England are world champions in excuses.

J@nek

December 2nd, 2011, 08:56 PM

do you think Poland will be able to win over Russia, Greece? Czech Republic?:lol: no chances and last place in group

Not that Poland is a strong team, but I wouldn't talk. Good luck with France, Sweden and England! :lol:

V_etas

December 2nd, 2011, 08:56 PM

Have you seen your group? Ukraine has no chance.

I know :)

Sylver

December 2nd, 2011, 08:57 PM

I was refering to the teams playing in Poland on group stage (A+C)

Interesting observations:

1) Czech will play all their games in Wroclaw. And for them, it's very close to home.
Not sure how many fans will be able to get tickets, though.
For Wroclaw it's not too good: Russian and Greek fans will probably stay in Warsaw, and only make one day trips to Wroclaw. Poles ans Czechs will be simply coming from home for the game.

2) Sweden plays all group games in Kyiv, Netherland- in Kharkiv, Italy in Pozan. So these cyties will probably be bases for their fans.

Now is the good time to return to the issue of the team camps. We know that England was planning to stay in Krakow regardless of the draw. In a funny way, it sorta make sense: with the sequense Donetsk-Kyiv-Donetsk, they would have to move back and forth anyway. But there is a BIG advantage for England to stay in Poland. They will have an excellent excuse for loosing yet another Euro (too much travel, big distances etc). And England are world champions in excuses.

lol XD

J@nek

December 2nd, 2011, 08:58 PM

iiYama_KR

December 2nd, 2011, 09:51 PM

Pavlja

December 2nd, 2011, 10:35 PM

розслабтеся))Хбірні Аноглії,Голандії,Франції,Португалії будуть у нас!!!!

swiatowid

December 2nd, 2011, 10:38 PM

Despite of not so lucky draw for Ukraine, I hope that your team will reach further stage of EURO. Good luck.

According to polish group: everybody happy :-). But:
With Russia/USSR at home:
3:1, 1:1, 1:1, 0:0, 1:0, 2:1
With Czech Republic/Czechoslovakia at home after 1950:
2:1, 2:0, 2:1, 1:0, 3:0, 2:1, 1:1
And with Greece:
2:0, 1:0, 3:0, 2:1, 3:1, 5:2, 2:0, 4:0

So not so bad :lol:.

Anyway, good luck for both teams.

zonq84

December 2nd, 2011, 10:54 PM

Strange draw. Generally people in Poland are not satisfied as better teams will play their games in Ukraine.

Polish football fans, especially our hools are dissapointed too as they expect opportunity to stand in front of German, English or Irish :).

The best of today for me is that Italy has cofirmed that they will stay in Cracow during tournament. That means that Cracow will host three national team: Netherland ( they will train on Wisła Kraków stadium ), England ( Hutnik Kraków Stadium ) and Italy ( Cracovia Kraków stadium ).

Dude, it's few hours after the draw, how come you already know that "Generally people in Poland are not satisfied" ?? I am happy, my friends are happy, my family is happy, people that I met on my way home were hapy, some celebrations around my home, just some malcontents keep positing sh*t about less money from fans. Leave internet once for a while and watch real life.
Even if we hosted Euro 2012 on our own, benefits that we would gain would not be much different than those that we will get.
It's all about marketing and PR not money.

swiatowid

December 2nd, 2011, 10:57 PM

розслабтеся))Хбірні Аноглії,Голандії,Франції,Португалії будуть у нас!!!!

И всё в порядке. В Польши также будут хорошие команды :). А после групп посмотрем кто и где будет гулять. Надеюсь что обе команды.

Pavlja

December 2nd, 2011, 11:32 PM

И всё в порядке. В Польши также будут хорошие команды :). А после групп посмотрем кто и где будет гулять. Надеюсь что обе команды.

Ок дякую!успіхів і Вам і Нам!vіvа Pоlаnd ,vіvа Uкrаіnе

J@nek

December 2nd, 2011, 11:53 PM

Group A: Lech, Czech, Rus and Zeus :-) :-)

LubiePiwo

December 2nd, 2011, 11:54 PM

2) Sweden plays all group games in Kyiv, Netherland- in Kharkiv, Italy in Pozan. So these cyties will probably be bases for their fans.
Italy will play 1 match in Gdańsk.

asotUA

December 2nd, 2011, 11:55 PM

There are some protests, during te draw :P But I think most of the visitors will take is as an additional attraction ;)

http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/6/10747/z10747476X.jpg

http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/7/10748/z10748067X.jpg

Holy sh*t! They picked the ugliest b*tches ever to stand and protest, very smart indeed.:lol:...I don't think any male is going to get a boner from a seeing saggy flat breasts, at least not me. And the funny part is that they don't want to realize that this is all over already and they stand no chance to change anything back...useless whores.

cann

December 3rd, 2011, 12:12 AM

^^Maybe they don't want to change the world. Maybe all they want is a fame? Still, don't call them whores, mate.

Ulyssis

December 3rd, 2011, 12:51 AM

But they are! Doing this for fame is just as disgusting as doing for money.

______________

Anyway, as I said. English already have their excuses ready ;)

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/opinion/blogs/mirror-football-blog/England-chances-at-Euro-2012-Why-the-road-to-redemption-is-9-337-miles-long-for-Fabio-Capello-by-Martin-Lipton-article837848.html

sweden does stay in Kyiv. The areticle also mentions that French will be based in Ukraine, but I haveno heard first hand confirmation

Germany and England will stay in Poland.

Now, with Netherland it's kinda funny. I have a feeling three cities (Krakow, Gdansk and Kharkiv ) all believe that Dutch stay there. Anyone has a relyable info?

What remains unknown (at least to me) are Portugal and Denmark.

LubiePiwo

December 3rd, 2011, 12:56 AM

^^ http://www.2012.org.pl/en/news/more/39591-holandia-potwierdza-zakwaterowanie-w-krakowie.html

Sylver

December 3rd, 2011, 01:08 AM

Is there a list yet of where each country is confirmed to have a base?

Ulyssis

December 3rd, 2011, 04:57 AM

They have a deadline in a week. So we'll know very soon. Coaches of Germany, England and Sweden alredy confirmed their bases right after the draw (Krakow, Gdansk, Kyiv)

Poland and Ukraine we know. I guess, within couple of days we'll hear more.

For those who are planning to go I'd suggest buying air tickets right away. They are surprisingly cheap at the moment , won't stay that way for long.

Hotels are different issue.

I guess they are all block-booked and will become available later.
At the moment, 4000 Euro/night Intercontinental Kyiv, anyone?
On the other hand (at least in Ukraine) the best value for fans are apartments, not hotels. And those are actually availabe.
________________________________________

Don't want to sound like and AD man, but think about this: this is the last Euro with 16 teams. There will NEVER be a tournament of such intensity in the future.

J@nek

December 3rd, 2011, 07:55 AM

Italy has confirmed that they will be staying in Wieliczka (Kraków).

http://www.sport.pl/sport-krakow/1,122020,10752786,Euro_2012__Wlosi_potwierdzaja__Zamieszkamy_w_Wieliczce_.html?bo=1

Ulyssis

December 3rd, 2011, 08:24 AM

At least Krakow gets it's redemption for being left out.

I still don't get England, though. Any team of group B can well stay in Poland, even Holland. After all, if they qualify, the quater/semi finals will be in Gdansk/Warsaw. And all but Holland will play 2 games in Lviv, one in Kharkiv.

But England- that I simply don't get. They face a prospect of playing all their games between Kyiv and Donetsk (no one really believes they will advance all the way to final, and yet...).

Maybe they should just go for vacation to Krakow? ;)
In any case, that's a good news for anyone else in group D.

J@nek

December 3rd, 2011, 08:48 AM

Vanaheim

December 3rd, 2011, 10:20 AM

Cities Presentation:
VJ9955X6-CU

:cheers:

delfin_pl

December 3rd, 2011, 10:34 AM

^^ Polish cities look amazing :cheers:

asotUA

December 3rd, 2011, 10:43 AM

^^SEX!:cheers: But then again they could of showed more or different scenes of Kyiv for the ending. These repeating Independence Square scenes are getting super old. There is more to see about Kyiv then just that. just saying...

LubiePiwo

December 3rd, 2011, 11:00 AM

But England- that I simply don't get. They face a prospect of playing all their games between Kyiv and Donetsk (no one really believes they will advance all the way to final, and yet...).

Maybe they should just go for vacation to Krakow? ;)

Recent experiences mean that any England team base becomes a strategic minefield. The 2006 World Cup in Germany provided the grande bouffe of Baden-Baden, with its peak-era Wag-culture excesses and daily whispers of papal-scale extravagance in the shopping malls. If Baden-Baden was too noisy, the gilded isolation of the South African hilltop camp in rural Rustenburg four years later was apparently too quiet: players complained of debilitating boredom levels in a regime that was described by Wayne Rooney as "breakfast, train, lunch, bed, dinner, bed".

With Krakow, the Football Association will hope to have reached a happy middle ground between no-frills Rustenburg and all-frills Baden-Baden. "I want to see them in training focused and working hard, but after always they will be free," Fabio Capello said yesterday. The suggestion from the England manager was that his players will be allowed to come and go outside of team duties during a campaign that could – depending on whether the team can improve on a miserable European Championship finals record – be as short as eight days or as long as 22.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/nov/07/england-hotel-stary-krakow-euro-2012

Svercer

December 3rd, 2011, 12:25 PM

Vanaheim

December 3rd, 2011, 01:37 PM

True equality, as without Poland there would be even a quarter of Euro in Ukraine.
Without Surkis there would be no Euro at all :D

Svercer

December 3rd, 2011, 01:44 PM

I mentioned it, but without Polish interference, it wouldn't be euro either.

V_etas

December 3rd, 2011, 02:33 PM

Go f*ck yourself.

will send the same homosexuals as you...I offended nobody...I said about the real chances of Poland...Ukraine has the same chances

learn the culture of socializing with people, if parents did not manage well to educate

Ulyssis

December 3rd, 2011, 03:08 PM

By the way about the Group of Death:

The fact that both Kharkiv and Lviv are so close to the border will make it easy for Poles and Russians to visit those matches, too. The size of the stadiums is unfortunately insufficient....

On the other hand most of the really high profile games games, except Germany-Holland will be played onb bigger areanas in Gdansk, Donetsk, Warsaw and Kyiv (Spain-Italy, England-France, and knok-out phase. )

______________

P.S. the results of the draw actually disproves the popular conspiracy theory that these stuffs are rigged by UEFA. Logistrically, this is their worst case scenario.

musampa

December 3rd, 2011, 03:24 PM

Vetas, you know that football it is game and fun, and game is always inpredictable, fun is the most important.
I believe that Polish team will play offensive and everything is possible.

musampa

December 3rd, 2011, 03:34 PM

And VETAS, do you think that Euro 2012 is for Ukrainian People sth like God`s Olympics, to cheer people hearts. My familly comes from west Ukraina, but im shamed that Ukrainian dont fight for strong state and it is only Rich Country of Poor People...

V_etas

December 3rd, 2011, 03:43 PM

Vetas, you know that football it is game and fun, and game is always inpredictable, fun is the most important.
I believe that Polish team will play offensive and everything is possible.

I will be ill for Ukraine. and wish all the best to Poland. but I really look on a thing

J@nek

December 3rd, 2011, 05:07 PM

What about France? Are they going to stay in Poland (in Warka I suppose), or will they accomodate in Ukraine?

I have mixed feelings about the draw. Poland has almost the easiest, possible group and it will be shame, if we won't promote to the next stage. On the other hand , that opponents don't excite me like France or Portugal even Sweden would, so I regret that we didn't get someone hot from 3 or 4 basket. Russia satisfies me, as we didn't compete for a long time, many people in Poland have their own 'subjective' opinion about Russia and that match will electrify whole nation. Also I'm jealous about that more BIG matches will be in Ukraine. You guys may be sad about your group, but you can't be if it's about the whole draw, which was better for Ukraine(as a country) for sure. As a matter of fact the group of death (B) will be held on the two smallest stadiums, which is not the best thing for entertainment.

One more thing, which I realized yeasterday. I know that Mr.Surkis is an influencial guy and organising Euro was Ukrainian initiative, but it's surely unfair for Poland that almost every crucial event is/was held in Ukraine: Euro logo revelation - Kiev; Final draw - Kiev, Final match - Kiev. What Poland get?
Qualification draw, Play-off draw and Opening game. True equality, as without Poland there would be even a quarter of Euro in Ukraine.

Go f*ck yourself.

O come on Spain, Italy, Russia playing in Poland will result in HUGE numbers of fans and promotion of the nation. In addition, remember that these are just the Group Stage games, Two Quarter Final Games and One Semi Final Game will be played in Poland therefore, you may have countries such as Germany, France or the Netherlands playing in Poland. :)

I agree with the second part though, I don't understand why the official Euro 2012 theme song could not have been composed by both a Polish and a Ukrainian artist (the one presented yesterday was just HORRIBLE).

I also don't understand why there is no promotion videos of Poland, there was a number about Ukraine during the draw. This is our own fault !!

Is there any promotion videos of Poland for the Euro?

Sylver

December 3rd, 2011, 06:18 PM

What about France? Are they going to stay in Poland (in Warka I suppose), or will they accomodate in Ukraine?

I have mixed feelings about the draw. Poland has almost the easiest, possible group and it will be shame, if we won't promote to the next stage. On the other hand , that opponents don't excite me like France or Portugal even Sweden would, so I regret that we didn't get someone hot from 3 or 4 basket. Russia satisfies me, as we didn't compete for a long time, many people in Poland have their own 'subjective' opinion about Russia and that match will electrify whole nation. Also I'm jealous about that more BIG matches will be in Ukraine. You guys may be sad about your group, but you can't be if it's about the whole draw, which was better for Ukraine(as a country) for sure. As a matter of fact the group of death (B) will be held on the two smallest stadiums, which is not the best thing for entertainment.

One more thing, which I realized yeasterday. I know that Mr.Surkis is an influencial guy and organising Euro was Ukrainian initiative, but it's surely unfair for Poland that almost every crucial event is/was held in Ukraine: Euro logo revelation - Kiev; Final draw - Kiev, Final match - Kiev. What Poland get?
Qualification draw, Play-off draw and Opening game. True equality, as without Poland there would be even a quarter of Euro in Ukraine.

Go f*ck yourself.

I agree with you and we (in my opinion) should have gotten the final but you cant do anything about it unless we bid for a World Cup or the Olympics. But we also have the biggest countries playing in Poland like Spain and Italy. Plus the fact that most countries will be based in Poland is also a great accomplishment because they have chosen (in their opinions) the best bases for their teams.

O come on Spain, Italy, Russia playing in Poland will result in HUGE numbers of fans and promotion of the nation. In addition, remember that these are just the Group Stage games, Two Quarter Final Games and One Semi Final Game will be played in Poland therefore, you may have countries such as Germany, France or the Netherlands playing in Poland. :)

I agree with the second part though, I don't understand why the official Euro 2012 theme song could not have been composed by both a Polish and a Ukrainian artist (the one presented yesterday was just HORRIBLE).

I also don't understand why there is no promotion videos of Poland, there was a number about Ukraine during the draw. This is our own fault !!

Is there any promotion videos of Poland for the Euro?

Wasnt the Euro 2008 song by Spanish Enrique Iglesias? Why no promotion of Poland? We dont need it which is why most of the euro countries are based in Poland and besides people already know of Poland especially Krakow.

michael111

December 3rd, 2011, 06:48 PM

Could somebody give link to see accomodation centres in Poland and Ukraine??

piopix

December 3rd, 2011, 07:07 PM

I have question for our Ukrainian friends.
Will be this an official song of E2012?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrAxI_4CQmE

I hope so. Original, modern, catchy, nice lyrics (there is sth in polish too) with orchestra background. Reminds me a little bit Amy Winehouse works. Let show that Slavic people can groove! ;-)

BTW. This girl is really talented.

J@nek

December 3rd, 2011, 07:23 PM

piopix

December 3rd, 2011, 07:28 PM

Remember that...
de gustibus non est disputandum

IMO It's nice.

I found logo of Polish presidency, that you use as an avatar, totally ugly.
You can think in a different way, and both statements are valuable so there is no point of using "LOL"'s.

elpolaco

December 3rd, 2011, 07:30 PM

I agree with you this song is great ! I hope this song will be official of E2012

Svercer

December 3rd, 2011, 07:32 PM

will send the same homosexuals as you...I offended nobody...I said about the real chances of Poland...Ukraine has the same chances

learn the culture of socializing with people, if parents did not manage well to educate

Surely you've presented beautiful culture of statement, saying about something, which people believe in with great arogance and disrespect.

O come on Spain, Italy, Russia playing in Poland will result in HUGE numbers of fans and promotion of the nation. In addition, remember that these are just the Group Stage games, Two Quarter Final Games and One Semi Final Game will be played in Poland therefore, you may have countries such as Germany, France or the Netherlands playing in Poland. :)

It would be hard not to get any of those big teams ;P I'm just saying that the draw could have been better.

I agree with the second part though, I don't understand why the official Euro 2012 theme song could not have been composed by both a Polish and a Ukrainian artist (the one presented yesterday was just HORRIBLE).

I also don't understand why there is no promotion videos of Poland, there was a number about Ukraine during the draw. This is our own fault !!

You mean that Oceana song? In this case uefa/fifa is quite straightforward and always let some 'star' composing the official song, instead of giving it to some local musician. Euro 2008 song was composed by Shaggy (and it was great imo) last WC - Shakira and so on.

I agree with you and we (in my opinion) should have gotten the final but you cant do anything about it unless we bid for a World Cup or the Olympics. But we also have the biggest countries playing in Poland like Spain and Italy. Plus the fact that most countries will be based in Poland is also a great accomplishment because they have chosen (in their opinions) the best bases for their teams.

Even not the final, but the final draw and it would be fair enough for me. Recompension by training bases is good for me either ;) As far as I know from Polish media, this is how te situation looks with accomodation centers:

Poland - Warsaw
Ukraine - Kiev
Spain - Gniewino
Netherlands - Kraków(?)
Germany - Gdansk
England - Kraków
Italy - Kraków
Portugal - Opalenica
Croatia - Międzychód
Czech Rep. - Tychy/Wrocław
Warka - Greece
Rep. of Irleand - Łódź
Russia -?
Denmark - ?
Sweden - ?
France - ?

Vanaheim

December 3rd, 2011, 07:36 PM

^^
Sweden - Kiev

http://www.sport.pl/sport-trojmiasto/1,113933,10754069,PILNE__Polska_juz_traci_na_losowaniu__Szwedzi_zrezygnowali.html

ja.centy

December 3rd, 2011, 07:54 PM

One more thing, which I realized yeasterday. I know that Mr.Surkis is an influencial guy and organising Euro was Ukrainian initiative, but it's surely unfair for Poland that almost every crucial event is/was held in Ukraine: Euro logo revelation - Kiev; Final draw - Kiev, Final match - Kiev. What Poland get?
Qualification draw, Play-off draw and Opening game. True equality, as without Poland there would be even a quarter of Euro in Ukraine.

I actually don't mind that. If UEFA's decision (to grant the cup to PL & UA) indeed had been influenced mainly by Mr Surkis, I wouldn't be surprised for the Ukraine to have more important events held there.

As far as I'm concerned, I'm delighted that the cup is giving great boost to develop Poland's sport & transport infrastructure (which will serve the Poles for a long time in future), will be beneficial from tourism perspective, and will certainly work towards the country's promotion.

Cheer up! :)

piopix

December 3rd, 2011, 08:13 PM

One more thing, which I realized yeasterday. I know that Mr.Surkis is an influencial guy and organising Euro was Ukrainian initiative, but it's surely unfair for Poland that almost every crucial event is/was held in Ukraine: Euro logo revelation - Kiev; Final draw - Kiev, Final match - Kiev. What Poland get?
Qualification draw, Play-off draw and Opening game. True equality, as without Poland there would be even a quarter of Euro in Ukraine.

Guys I really don't understand thinking in this way. Under E12 flag we are one team. There isn't "Ours" and "Theirs". Friday ceremony for me was polish ceremony as well as ukrainian. Where it took part is unimportant.
On the other hand try to compare level of this ceremonies:

Final draw (Kiev) vs Qualification draw (Warsaw)
Logo revelation (Kiev) vs Play-off draw (Krakow)

Ukrainians better understand what means "TV show". Final draw was much better than Quali. Camera work, interval acts, nice stage. Play-off in claustrofobic room in Krakow was much much worse than logo event in Kiev.
Even polish compere Piotr Sobczynski looks like father of beautiful Olena.
Polish TV (TVP) can't feel what mean TV entertainment acts.

lpftv

December 3rd, 2011, 08:25 PM

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lpftv

December 3rd, 2011, 08:33 PM

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Igor L.

December 3rd, 2011, 11:53 PM

SEX!:cheers: But then again they could of showed more or different scenes of Kyiv for the ending. These repeating Independence Square scenes are getting super old. There is more to see about Kyiv then just that. just saying...

I agree with you.
Kyiv: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1252299 :okay:
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Bonus
Kharkiv: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1337311&page=10
Donetsk: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1337311&page=7
Lviv: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1455033

:cheers2:

Igor L.

December 4th, 2011, 12:12 AM

Boryspil International Airport, Kyiv

old video but worth a look ;)
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POLSKA GOLA

December 4th, 2011, 12:33 AM

Its a great draw for the police i think :lol:
England will not play in poland unless they reach semifinal which they wont do so the chance of english hordes upsetting polish hools will not happen.
And of course german will maybe not play games in poland so i wonder if something fishy going on? Maybe.
Anyway,polands group is the best posible i know we have a weak team but czechs and greece are also mediocre.
Russia will win group A with others fighting for 2nd place.
i hope russian hools will stay away from warsaw that match could be not so nice if these guys visit.
i think they will stay at home though..

6opuC

December 4th, 2011, 01:04 AM

Croatia - Międzychód

Its not for sure. Earlier they declared Shakhtar base in Donetsk.

Harisson

December 4th, 2011, 04:36 AM

From Ukrainian media:

Ukraine - Kyiv
Croatia - Donetsk
Netherlands - Kharkiv(?)
Russia - Kyiv
Denmark - Odesa(?)
Sweden - Kyiv
Waiting for France :)

Harisson

December 4th, 2011, 04:50 AM

But not so important where the teams will be based, it's important where the teams will play, where the fans will come on match of their teams ;)

Ulv

December 4th, 2011, 09:55 AM

Netherlands? I've heard they booked hotel and stadium in Kraków.. ;)

asotUA

December 4th, 2011, 11:05 AM

LOL I don't know what you see in that song, It's terrible in my opinion:bash:

Plus 1. Looks and sounds retarded. But maybe that's just not my style of melody and the way it is done.

asotUA

December 4th, 2011, 11:12 AM

i hope russian hools will stay away from warsaw that match could be not so nice if these guys visit.

Lmao. Yeah, good luck with those, maybe the Kaliningrad once wont be so harsh on you since you two are neighbors. On the other hand, I bet they are already pissed for not playing in Ukraine instead but that makes me happy.:lol: Keeps some of those uneducated trashy hools away from Ukraine!:cheers:

Svercer

December 4th, 2011, 03:03 PM

Guys I really don't understand thinking in this way. Under E12 flag we are one team. There isn't "Ours" and "Theirs". Friday ceremony for me was polish ceremony as well as ukrainian. Where it took part is unimportant.

I could hardly see any Polish accents on this ceremony, except Poland in promo video and maybe Polish co-host, so for me it wasn't Polish ceremony at all.

On the other hand try to compare level of this ceremonies:

Final draw (Kiev) vs Qualification draw (Warsaw)
Logo revelation (Kiev) vs Play-off draw (Krakow)

If you find it equal... Both Polish imo are much less prestigious (Who cared about play-off draw, except teams taking part in? Qualificiation draw was also nothing much)

Ukrainians better understand what means "TV show". Final draw was much better than Quali. Camera work, interval acts, nice stage. Play-off in claustrofobic room in Krakow was much much worse than logo event in Kiev.
Even polish compere Piotr Sobczynski looks like father of beautiful Olena.
Polish TV (TVP) can't feel what mean TV entertainment acts.

I may be wrong, but I suppose those ceremonies was organised by uefa and Ukrainian TV or TVP had nothing to it. Besides Piotr Sobczynski, who you mentioned, managed really well and made a decent job, which was damn tough, when all eyes has been aimed at beautiful Ukrainian.