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Bahay_Kubo
November 6th, 2009, 03:30 AM
napansin ko lang. bakit parang sobrang liit naman yata nung mga directional signs na naka-install along SLEX (example: yung signs sa Southwoods at Susana Heights exits)? :nuts:

absinthe_888
November 6th, 2009, 06:31 AM
^^ Yan na nga Sir Mansion_House ang "incosistent font signage and directional signs" ng SLEX na matagal nang comment ng mga taga SSC...Napansin mo ba yung mga Km exit signs nila? dapat eh ninja eyes ka talaga dun. Ang kulit nga eh, yung Northbound Filinvest exit ang liit liit, pero yung southbound naman sa meh Alabang viaduct Clearview na ata yung font at malaki na.

Eh nakadaan kaba sa meh ABI all the way to Calamba? Nakita mo sana yung namention ko na giant "KM EXIT" sana :D

Sky Harbor
November 6th, 2009, 06:40 AM
^^ The sign does use Clearview, and this should be the standard for our signs. :D

Bahay_Kubo
November 6th, 2009, 07:01 AM
Sir Sky Harbor and Sir absinthe: it seems like the operator of the SLEX is "experimenting" on the type of signs that they would be using along the expressway.

paano na lang kung malabo ang mata mo? Clearview nga yung ginamit pero sobrang liit naman, balewala din.

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@ Sir absinthe: nakita ko yung sinasabi mong sign. ang laki nga nung sign na yun sa ABI Greenfield pero yung "Southwoods/Bińan" at "Susana Heights/Muntinlupa" signs ay saksakan naman ng liit. :ohno:

Sky Harbor
November 6th, 2009, 07:06 AM
^^ The Susana Heights sign southbound does not use Clearview. Only signs on the Alabang Viaduct apparently use Clearview.

Bahay_Kubo
November 6th, 2009, 07:12 AM
^^ thank you for the correction, Sir Sky Harbor. :)

still, the signs on Susana Heights, San Pedro, Southwoods and Carmona exits are way too small to be seen by motorists. i really wish they used larger signs instead.

Bahay_Kubo
November 6th, 2009, 07:13 AM
-double post-

absinthe_888
November 6th, 2009, 07:18 AM
^^ The sign does use Clearview, and this should be the standard for our signs. :D

I also like the DIN typeface you use on the PNR signage...sana meh makapag photoshop para makita natin kung anu kaya ichura nya :D

Sir Sky Harbor and Sir absinthe: it seems like the operator of the SLEX is "experimenting" on the type of signs that they would be using along the expressway.

paano na lang kung malabo ang mata mo? Clearview nga yung ginamit pero sobrang liit naman, balewala din.

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@ Sir absinthe: nakita ko yung sinasabi mong sign. ang laki nga nung sign na yun sa ABI Greenfield pero yung "Southwoods/Bińan" at "Susana Heights/Muntinlupa" signs ay saksakan naman ng liit. :ohno:

Nakita mo pala yung giant na "EXIT 43" :nuts: ang kulit no? pag asa meh Southwoods to Carmona ka, ubod ng liit at kailangan mo din ng ninja eyes para makita tapos paglagpas ng Sta. Rosa ay bubulaga sayo ang mga giant EXIT signs :nuts:

Bahay_Kubo
November 6th, 2009, 07:28 AM
^^ sobrang inconsistent nga talaga, Sir absinthe. hindi ko alam kung nag-eeksperimento ba sila dahil iba't iba yung klase ng signs na meron sa SLEX nowadays.

ryan12
November 6th, 2009, 02:57 PM
ask ko lng po kung saan sa Sto tomas ang magiging dulo ng SLEX?malapit ba sa YKK?salamat!

NicknameForLife
November 7th, 2009, 05:26 AM
hindi... sa may STAR Tollway... magkakabit ang SLEX at STAR sa isang highway... direct nang didiretso...

ryan12
November 7th, 2009, 11:27 AM
hindi... sa may STAR Tollway... magkakabit ang SLEX at STAR sa isang highway... direct nang didiretso...

gnun b?akla ko kc maglalagay sila ng abang dun pra sa future extension ng SLEX.

NicknameForLife
November 8th, 2009, 05:12 AM
^^ maglalagay din sila... pero ang alam ko.. may part na direct to STAR and another for further extension =) parang flyover...

ryan12
November 8th, 2009, 02:12 PM
^^ maglalagay din sila... pero ang alam ko.. may part na direct to STAR and another for further extension =) parang flyover...

salamat sa info bossing!

absinthe_888
November 9th, 2009, 05:37 AM
Konting update: Exits that have the giant "KM EXIT" sign are:
- Canlubang
- Silangan
- Cabuyao
- ABI/ Eton City

kalbongdad
November 9th, 2009, 08:35 AM
i find nlex better than slex....mahina kaya humahawak ng slex project dyan?

Bahay_Kubo
November 9th, 2009, 09:06 AM
Konting update: Exits that have the giant "KM EXIT" sign are:
- Canlubang
- Silangan
- Cabuyao
- ABI/ Eton City

my thoughts exactly. :lol:

talagang hindi pa natatapos ang experimentation stage ng contractors na humahawak ng SLEX, ano? :nuts:

Sky Harbor
November 9th, 2009, 11:06 AM
^^ Are those new Clearview signs, or are these older signs?

absinthe_888
November 9th, 2009, 11:20 AM
^^ Clearview.

balay_1
November 9th, 2009, 12:35 PM
i find nlex better than slex....mahina kaya humahawak ng slex project dyan?

Tingin ko dismayado lang ang mga Malaysians sa way ng pag-conduct ng business ng mga Pinoy. Masyadong maraming red tape, alam mo yon, kailangan pa ng ganito, ganoon.

Mahirap ding malaman kung ano ang puno't dulo kung bakit ang tagal ng SLEX rehab na ito. Kung nagkulang man ang MTD ng pera, kasalanan na iyon ng gobyerno, hindi nila tiningnan ang financial capability ng kumpanya. Award lang sila nang award, walang plano, pati yung pag-expire ng PNCC franchise, problema din.

For me, almost the same lang ang dalawa, all things equal, meaning SLEX has also the same features with that of NLEX, pareho lang. Nagkakaiba lang sa volume ng sasakyan at economic contribution.

wheel of steel
November 10th, 2009, 04:20 AM
Tingin ko dismayado lang ang mga Malaysians sa way ng pag-conduct ng business ng mga Pinoy. Masyadong maraming red tape, alam mo yon, kailangan pa ng ganito, ganoon.

Mahirap ding malaman kung ano ang puno't dulo kung bakit ang tagal ng SLEX rehab na ito. Kung nagkulang man ang MTD ng pera, kasalanan na iyon ng gobyerno, hindi nila tiningnan ang financial capability ng kumpanya. Award lang sila nang award, walang plano, pati yung pag-expire ng PNCC franchise, problema din.

For me, almost the same lang ang dalawa, all things equal, meaning SLEX has also the same features with that of NLEX, pareho lang. Nagkakaiba lang sa volume ng sasakyan at economic contribution.

Mas dadami ang mga gagamit ng SLEX kapag matapos na ang Interchange sa Sto. Tomas at yung extension sa Alaminos. It takes about 45 min. for the motorists from Bicol to cross that portion of National Highway from Turbina to Alaminos or maybe even more.

Mithril Cloud
November 11th, 2009, 05:36 PM
Inconsistent SLEX Signages: (contains re-posted images)

TR1 Segment (Alabang Viaduct)
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j74/ryucloud/slex_signage_tr1-1_mc.jpg

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j74/ryucloud/slex_signage_tr1-2_mc.jpg

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j74/ryucloud/slex_signage_tr1-3_mc.jpg


TR2-A Segment (Alabang-Mamplasan)

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j74/ryucloud/slex_signage_tr2a-3_mc.jpg

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j74/ryucloud/slex_signage_tr2a-4_mc.jpg

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j74/ryucloud/slex_signage_tr2a-5_mc.jpg

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j74/ryucloud/slex_signage_tr2a-2_mc.jpg


TR2-B Segment (Mamplasan-Calamba)

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j74/ryucloud/slex_signage_tr2b-5_mc.jpg

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j74/ryucloud/slex_signage_tr2b-4_mc.jpg

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j74/ryucloud/slex_signage_tr2b-3_mc.jpg

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j74/ryucloud/slex_signage_tr2b-1_mc.jpg

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j74/ryucloud/slex_signage_tr2b-2_mc.jpg

Sky Harbor
November 11th, 2009, 05:40 PM
^^ Those signs are not Clearview (except for those on the Filinvest Interchange and Alabang Viaduct)! The last three images in particular show signs in Highway Gothic (although this was used in some older signs prior to the rehabilitation)! Though I appreciate the font, now the SLEX is horribly inconsistent. :ohno:

mwg12a
November 13th, 2009, 11:27 PM
What is a "LAY-BY"? rest stop , turning lane, ramp for U-turn or something? Kinda odd to see but thats understandable different countries have different ways for their street signs such as "overtaking lane" is usually "passing lane" in North America.

absinthe_888
November 14th, 2009, 05:51 AM
^^ Parang "rest area" ang dating...definitely hindi sha u-turn sa SLEX.

Meh provision din kaya for emergency call boxes sa lay-by area?

Bahay_Kubo
November 14th, 2009, 10:18 AM
good afternoon, Sir absinthe, Sir mwg12a, Sir Sky Harbor and Sir Mithril! :)

i am actually thinking that the reason behind the inconsistency is that the SLEX would remain on Highway Gothic while the Skyway system, where portions of Alabang up to Filinvest belong, would the one adopting the Clearview typeface on its signs. :nuts:

i could be wrong though.

absinthe_888
November 14th, 2009, 10:26 AM
Parang adik.. ISANG STANDARD SIGNAGE lang kz dapat :bash:

Sky Harbor
November 14th, 2009, 10:27 AM
good afternoon, Sir absinthe, Sir mwg12a, Sir Sky Harbor and Sir Mithril! :)

i am actually thinking that the reason behind the inconsistency is that the SLEX would remain on Highway Gothic while the Skyway system, where portions of Alabang up to Filinvest belong, would the one adopting the Clearview typeface on its signs. :nuts:

i could be wrong though.

The Skyway system doesn't even use Clearview, so I highly doubt that's the case. Actually, the Skyway system already ends when you reach the Alabang exit.

Bahay_Kubo
November 14th, 2009, 10:31 AM
^^ i don't know. it seems to me that the case is either the one i mentioned earlier or that the people behind SLEX is still experimenting as to which typeface can be used (which, in my opinion, is a VERY EXPENSIVE experiment considering the cost behind those signs). :nuts:

absinthe_888
November 14th, 2009, 10:34 AM
The Skyway system doesn't even use Clearview, so I highly doubt that's the case. Actually, the Skyway system already ends when you reach the Alabang exit.

Isa pang nakaka asar ay yung NAIA Terminal 3 Exit signage sa Skyway...

Sky Harbor
November 14th, 2009, 10:40 AM
^^ That's actually Highway Gothic in all-caps, if I'm not mistaken.

Mithril Cloud
November 14th, 2009, 11:08 AM
^^ i don't know. it seems to me that the case is either the one i mentioned earlier or that the people behind SLEX is still experimenting as to which typeface can be used (which, in my opinion, is a VERY EXPENSIVE experiment considering the cost behind those signs). :nuts:

My assumption is that they picked different sign providers for each package of the SLEX rehab (TR1, TR2-A, and TR2-B), which for some reason didn't have any coordination with each other.

lochinvar
November 14th, 2009, 11:26 AM
Any news about the nexus of SLEX and STAR?

Bahay_Kubo
November 14th, 2009, 12:47 PM
My assumption is that they picked different sign providers for each package of the SLEX rehab (TR1, TR2-A, and TR2-B), which for some reason didn't have any coordination with each other.

yeah. i think that is possible, Sir Mithril. :)

if that is the case, however, the guys in-charge of the SLEX rehab should have specifically instructed all of the sign providers to use just one typeface for the signs, either Clearview or Highway Gothic. :nuts:

absinthe_888
November 15th, 2009, 06:59 AM
My assumption is that they picked different sign providers for each package of the SLEX rehab (TR1, TR2-A, and TR2-B), which for some reason didn't have any coordination with each other.

yeah. i think that is possible, Sir Mithril. :)

if that is the case, however, the guys in-charge of the SLEX rehab should have specifically instructed all of the sign providers to use just one typeface for the signs, either Clearview or Highway Gothic. :nuts:

Anu ba yun, wala man lang coordination :nuts:

Any news about the nexus of SLEX and STAR?

Dumaan ako kagabi, tuloyt-tuloy padin ang pas asphalt overlay ng Southbound section.

step22
November 15th, 2009, 09:35 AM
^^^ Southbound ng STAR????

absinthe_888
November 15th, 2009, 10:41 AM
^^^ Southbound ng STAR????

SLEX, yung dulo nya sa Calamba. Asphalt overlay southbound lane at inaayos na nila yung porma to connect dun sa tulay.

wigbert17
November 28th, 2009, 06:45 AM
yeah! dun din sa northbound before southwoods exit..

ryan12
November 28th, 2009, 01:46 PM
kylan po ba ang expected opening nung extension ng SLEX to STAR?

dattebayo
November 29th, 2009, 05:13 PM
nakaka challenge mag drive ngayon sa SLEX. bakit kung kelan malapit na yung road work saka lang nila nilalagay yung warning signs. wish they put those signs 1km before the road work. We almost hit those plastic barriers sa may passing lane sa may carmona ata. not very safe :ohno:


tpos after we passed filinvest exit I saw this: just look at the sign with the red circle. I mean there's no point of placing it there. anong use ng sign na yan jan? ok sana if they put that sign 500 meters or 1 km before that site. :ohno:


http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/812/vdvsd.jpg

julzandrew
November 30th, 2009, 10:24 AM
i agree dattebayo. how stupid

kratos1211
November 30th, 2009, 05:17 PM
PNCC eyes sale of stake in SLEx operator
-- Kristine Jane R. Liu
Business World

STATE-CONTROLLED Philippine National Construction Corp. (PNCC) plans to sell its entire stake in the joint venture for the South Luzon Expressway (SLEx) that connects Metro Manila to provinces in Southern Luzon.

PNCC President Ma. Theresa T. Defensor said in an interview she has proposed sale of the 20% stake in South Luzon Tollways Corp. to the PNCC board.
South Luzon Tollways is a joint venture between PNCC and Malaysian firm MTD Capital Berhad, which holds 80% of the company. It supposedly holds the right to rehabilitate, expand, operate and maintain the SLEx, despite the fact that PNCC’s franchise lapsed in May 2007.
The joint venture is undertaking three projects -- the rehabilitation and widening of the 1.2-kilometer (km) Alabang viaduct, which was completed last year; the rehabilitation and widening of the 27.3-km expressway linking Alabang to Calamba in Laguna; and the construction of a 7.6-km extension from Calamba to Sto. Tomas in Batangas.
Ms. Defensor said the Malaysian firm is studying extending the road from Sto. Tomas in Batangas province all the way to Lucena in Quezon province. The entire project, she said, is expected to be completed by 2016.
"We are already going into the motion [to sell our stake]. We plan to turn a big part of [the money that we will generate] to the national government to help [address the budget] deficit," Ms. Defensor said.
The country’s budget deficit has already reached P266.1 billion as of October, P16 billion higher than the programmed full-year deficit, prompting the government to resort to asset sales.
Ms. Defensor said part of the money to be raised would also be used for the P1.6-billion, four-kilometer toll road that PNCC is constructing. This will connect SLEx near the Susana Heights interchange to the southern end of the Daang Hari road in Cavite.
"This is a very nice project because this will decongest the south since this will become an alternative route. In effect, people going to Manila from Cavite will no longer have to travel to Alabang and take the Filinvest exit to go northbound," she said.
She did not say how much PNCC will get from the sale of the 20% stake, saying that a government bank is helping in the evaluation. PNCC intends to get the approval of the Department of Finance and the Privatization Management Office.
Ms. Defensor said nobody has approached PNCC for the 20% stake but said Metro Pacific Tollways Corp. headed by Manuel V. Pangilinan might be one of the interested parties.
"Mr. Pangilinan has been a major shareholder since last year of the North Luzon Expressway and has a minor shareholding in the Skyway. I think they are looking into integrating all the other tollways," Ms. Defensor said.
"If [he wants to] enter the SLEx, he can buy shares of the Malaysian partly or in full [or buy our stake]," she added.
In an interview at the weekend, Metro Pacific Tollways President Ramoncito S. Fernandez said the group has always been interested to buy into SLEx but has yet to sit down with PNCC.
"Buying a stake [in the company that operates] SLEx is part of our master plan to connect the North and the South. The goal here is to have seamless traffic," Mr. Fernandez said.
PNCC is 91.3% owned by the government while the rest is held by private entities. It holds a minority stake in Manila North Tollways Corp., which is the builder and concessionaire of the North Luzon Expressway, and in Citra Metro Manila Tollways Corp., operator of the Skyway project.
Legal issues continue to hound PNCC as Congress has yet to renew its franchise. Regulators, however, have allowed it to continue collecting toll fees.

mwg12a
November 30th, 2009, 06:51 PM
tpos after we passed filinvest exit I saw this: just look at the sign with the red circle. I mean there's no point of placing it there. anong use ng sign na yan jan? ok sana if they put that sign 500 meters or 1 km before that site. :ohno:


http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/812/vdvsd.jpg

Okay sana yan dahil dito sa midwest ganoon din, pero before sa diyan sa sign na yan (which is last sign) mayroon din sana na warning na isa pa bago diyan sa lited arrow sign na yan gaya ng "innermost lane close ahead" or "warning: merging traffic 1000 meters ahead" para alam ng mga driver na kailangan nilang mag shift ng lane

arnolds
November 30th, 2009, 10:14 PM
For the last three weeks, they've eliminated the special Alabang/Filinvest exit lane which usually starts just past Susanna Heights northbound. This special lane eliminated countless delays trying to exit Alabang and also ensure that the bottleneck from the alabang entry is minimized.

I've asked one of the traffic enforcers on the reason and the response was that the cones used to delineate the special lane was being overrun by motorists and buses. I made the suggestion that maybe they can use the concrete barriers instead.

Hirap talaga sa Pilipinas, wala contingencies to ensure that traffic flows smoothly.

balay_1
November 30th, 2009, 10:40 PM
For the last three weeks, they've eliminated the special Alabang/Filinvest exit lane which usually starts just past Susanna Heights northbound. This special lane eliminated countless delays trying to exit Alabang and also ensure that the bottleneck from the alabang entry is minimized.

I've asked one of the traffic enforcers on the reason and the response was that the cones used to delineate the special lane was being overrun by motorists and buses. I made the suggestion that maybe they can use the concrete barriers instead.

Hirap talaga sa Pilipinas, wala contingencies to ensure that traffic flows smoothly.

Madali kasing maalis yung mga plastic cones na yun. About sa concrete barriers, tingin ko delikado yun kasi semento yun na pwedeng maka-disgrasya sa mga motorista. Di natin alam kung disiplinado ba yung mga driver na di magpatakbo nang matulin. Di ba may isyu na diyan na sangkot ang mga concrete barriers sa EDSA na pakana ng MMDA.

Siguro plastic barriers na lang. Alam ko marami ang PNCC nun. Safe pa yun at mala-barrier ang dating, di tulad ng mga cones na sagasaan lang ng mga bus.

mwg12a
November 30th, 2009, 11:53 PM
^^^^ That's a very good combination ineffective managers and undisciplined motorists. He he now you can really say "only in the Philippines" and "mga pasaway" .... he he

Lucentino
December 1st, 2009, 02:38 AM
^What is the current speed limit along the construction areas withing SLEx? Maybe it is a mixture of Pinoy's lack of discipline and the lack of markings...


Ms. Defensor said the Malaysian firm is studying extending the road from Sto. Tomas in Batangas province all the way to Lucena in Quezon province. The entire project, she said, is expected to be completed by 2016.

Why do I feel I wanted to :puke:!


"We are already going into the motion [to sell our stake]. We plan to turn a big part of [the money that we will generate] to the national government to help [address the budget] deficit," Ms. Defensor said.
The country’s budget deficit has already reached P266.1 billion as of October, P16 billion higher than the programmed full-year deficit, prompting the government to resort to asset sales.

I just hope the deficit was Money well spent...


Ms. Defensor said part of the money to be raised would also be used for the P1.6-billion, four-kilometer toll road that PNCC is constructing. This will connect SLEx near the Susana Heights interchange to the southern end of the Daang Hari road in Cavite.
"This is a very nice project because this will decongest the south since this will become an alternative route. In effect, people going to Manila from Cavite will no longer have to travel to Alabang and take the Filinvest exit to go northbound," she said.

I cannot remember a time when PNCC became true to it's word... better not hold my breath on this one...

balay_1
December 1st, 2009, 03:01 AM
^Be optimistic na lang Sir Lucentino about sa Toll Road 4 o TR4. It is good na at least may plano at blueprint na yung extension up to Lucena ng SLEX kaysa sa wala na parang panaginip o vision lang.

Sa ngayun, maging thankful na lang tayo na malapit nang matapos ang TR2 (toll exits at plazas na lang ang kulang). Sana matapos na rin ang TR3.

Hopefully, pagdating ng June 30, 2010, ay totally finished na ang TR1, TR2, at TR3 ng SLEX project. Kumbaga sabi nga ng mga k*p*l na opisyales ng DPWH at yung maliit na height na presidente ng Pilipinas, "Pansamantalang Abala, Pangmatagalang Ginhawa" :D

Lucentino
December 1st, 2009, 03:08 AM
^Optimistik naman ako kapatid na @balay_1... Laking pasalamat ko nga sa TR1-3... kahit paano nakaraos na rin... wag lang sanang maibigay sa MTD o PNCC ang trabahong TR4... sana sa isang Japanis company ito maibigay... pero syempre kahit kanino pa ito maibigay, basta ang mahalaga makumpleto ito sa kapanahunan natin.

"Pansamantalang Ginhawa, Pangmatagalang Abala" :cool:

dattebayo
December 1st, 2009, 11:12 AM
Okay sana yan dahil dito sa midwest ganoon din, pero before sa diyan sa sign na yan (which is last sign) mayroon din sana na warning na isa pa bago diyan sa lited arrow sign na yan gaya ng "innermost lane close ahead" or "warning: merging traffic 1000 meters ahead" para alam ng mga driver na kailangan nilang mag shift ng lane

natumbok mo po. hehe. that's right. kasi yung warning sign talgang nandun na sa mismong site. no time to change lane. magugulat ka nalang andun na yung ginagawa.

mr.suroy
December 1st, 2009, 05:27 PM
^What is the current speed limit along the construction areas withing SLEx? Maybe it is a mixture of Pinoy's lack of discipline and the lack of markings...



There is a sign before entering the Alabang Viaduct Northbound, 80.
And the traffic goes for around 8kph.:bash:

jquint
December 2nd, 2009, 02:32 PM
For the last three weeks, they've eliminated the special Alabang/Filinvest exit lane which usually starts just past Susanna Heights northbound. This special lane eliminated countless delays trying to exit Alabang and also ensure that the bottleneck from the alabang entry is minimized.

I've asked one of the traffic enforcers on the reason and the response was that the cones used to delineate the special lane was being overrun by motorists and buses. I made the suggestion that maybe they can use the concrete barriers instead.

Hirap talaga sa Pilipinas, wala contingencies to ensure that traffic flows smoothly.

For a long time the special lane worked well, then someone deliberately broke the rope barrier and crossed over. After that, lots of people started doing it, with multiple breaks all over. I think they repaired it but then someone would break the rope all over again.

absinthe_888
December 2nd, 2009, 03:18 PM
Konting update mga kosa: Southbound lane of the San Juanico bridge ay isang lane kanina. Mukang getting ready for girder launching din.

Based sa nakita ko kanina, hindi nila mamemeet yung December deadline to finsih the toll booths. Tsk. What's new.

@ Boss Lucy: Politician ata yang si Maite Defensor, huwag na tayo maniwala sa TR4 sa ngayon. Puro laway puhunan.

absinthe_888
December 6th, 2009, 04:45 AM
Konting update ulit as of Dec 4, 2009

Calamba Exit southbound is now back in business, aspahalt overlaying completed.

Closed na yung innermost lane kz mag asphalt overlaying din (lane going to the STAR bridge).

Entry to the SLEX naman, balik sa detour as the original entry is once again closed to the public (eto yung entry if galing ka Turbina side).

Pormado na yung magiging lane ng SLEX to connect to the bridge.

Batangas exit naman ng SLEX, inaayos na at tinitibag na ng breaker yung dating kalsada.

MTD should seriously FAST TRACK completion of the SLEX especially the San Juanico bridge and the SLEX-STAR link. Traffic is unbearable especially on Friday night.

Goku_25
December 6th, 2009, 01:33 PM
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Notice the bridge approaching Filinvest Exit Northbound now has asphalt overlay.... do you think the other SLEx bridges are now being paved by asphalt?

absinthe_888
December 6th, 2009, 04:48 PM
San Juanico bridge northbound update: 6 girders already in place.

Also, the E Pass only lane signage at the Nichols Tollgate "A" features LED display na.

daily commuter
December 7th, 2009, 01:41 AM
San Juanico bridge northbound update: 6 girders already in place.

Also, the E Pass only lane signage at the Nichols Tollgate "A" features LED display na.

Saan kosa ang San Juanico bridge? :nuts:

absinthe_888
December 7th, 2009, 01:55 AM
^^ Tama ba, San Juanico bridge ang name :nuts: Yung tulay pre bago mag Calamba Exit. Kasalukuyang inaayos ang Northbound lane nito ng Foundation Specialists Inc.

EDIT: San Juan bridge pala name :lol:

Mishan
December 7th, 2009, 02:33 AM
^^ Tama ba, San Juanico bridge ang name :nuts: Yung tulay pre bago mag Calamba Exit. Kasalukuyang inaayos ang Northbound lane nito ng Foundation Specialists Inc.

^^ Its San Juan bridge just before Calamba exit. San Juanico bridge is in between Samar and Leyte Provinces.

absinthe_888
December 7th, 2009, 02:59 AM
^^ hahahaha...San Juan bridge pala. Alam ko kz halos kahawig ni San Juanico bridge :lol:

Mishan
December 7th, 2009, 10:06 PM
^^Yes, especially the steel girders and pier heads, because PNCC also constructed San Juanico bridge.

Lucentino
December 8th, 2009, 01:24 AM
Konting update mga kosa: Southbound lane of the San Juanico bridge ay isang lane kanina. Mukang getting ready for girder launching din.

Based sa nakita ko kanina, hindi nila mamemeet yung December deadline to finsih the toll booths. Tsk. What's new.

@ Boss Lucy: Politician ata yang si Maite Defensor, huwag na tayo maniwala sa TR4 sa ngayon. Puro laway puhunan.

Yup, wala na tayong aasahan na TR4 sa susunod na 6yrs lalo kung ang mananalong Presidente ay bopols at di priority ang infra (lalo sa Calabarzon)...

Salamat sa updates Gobernador 888... yung tinutukoy mo ba sa Turbina papasok ng SLEx (Manila bound) e sa detour nanaman dumadaan?

Yung mga tollgates nga mukhang di matatapos kasi yung sa Filinvest entry (southbound) nakatiwangwang pa rin pero mukhang 80% complete na... yung sa Carmona exit/entry naman, yung temporary at existing tollbooths parang magkamukha na :lol:... ika nga ni Cong. DC hirap ang bwelo ng mahahabang container trucks dito... pero inexpand nila kahit papano yung temporary booths...

absinthe_888
December 8th, 2009, 04:01 AM
Yup, wala na tayong aasahan na TR4 sa susunod na 6yrs lalo kung ang mananalong Presidente ay bopols at di priority ang infra (lalo sa Calabarzon)...

Salamat sa updates Gobernador 888... yung tinutukoy mo ba sa Turbina papasok ng SLEx (Manila bound) e sa detour nanaman dumadaan?

Yung mga tollgates nga mukhang di matatapos kasi yung sa Filinvest entry (southbound) nakatiwangwang pa rin pero mukhang 80% complete na... yung sa Carmona exit/entry naman, yung temporary at existing tollbooths parang magkamukha na :lol:... ika nga ni Cong. DC hirap ang bwelo ng mahahabang container trucks dito... pero inexpand nila kahit papano yung temporary booths...

Panahon palang ata ni Tita Cory meh TR4 proposal na, anung petsa na laway pa din. Hay naku.

Yes Mayor, yung entry to Manila if galing ka sa Lucena dumaan via Turbina ay detour na ulit ang pasok mo sa SLEX. Gawa inaayos na nila yung lane that will connect SLEX dun sa nakatenggang tulay sa dulo ng SLEX.

Yang Alabang toll booth, ubod ng bagal ang asenso nan, hindi ko maintindihan bakit ang tagal nilang gawin yan. Sa Calamba toll plaza naman, tuloy padin ang pagsasaayos ng bagong toll plazas. Ang taas na nga ng embankment ng bagong toll booths dun sa luma.

Yung magiging HQ ng MTD sa meh Silangan (?), well lighted na pag gabi.

kratos1211
December 8th, 2009, 06:13 AM
^^Kaya mabagal ang construction ng MTD sa SLEX ay dahil ang joint venture partner niya na si PNCC who holds the franchise to the SLEX has expired in 2008 at ayaw bigyan ng extension ng congreso. Kaya walang Bangko ang willing magfinance sa construction nila, dahil maaaring macancel ito at matulad sa problema ng NAIAT3. If PNCC does not have rights to operate SLEX, technically MTD loses it right too kahit may agreement sila with TRB.

Ang hindi ko lang maintindihan kung bakit kailangan pa ng foreign partner kung ang 70-80% funding nila ay kukunin din sa local banks. :ohno:

When SLEX rehab is finish, siguradong tataas ang toll rate sa section na yan of P0.75/km to P2.+/km or alabang to calamba P22.00 to P40+ or maybe P50. plus the P65 of magallanes to alabang toll. Kaya aabot ng P100+ ang toll rate diyan going to calamba.

absinthe_888
December 8th, 2009, 06:28 AM
^^ Speaking of franchise, anu nabang latest sa renewal ng PNCC dito?

kratos1211
December 12th, 2009, 05:36 PM
SLEX operation turned over to SLTC
– Rainier Allan Ronda (The Philippine Star)

MANILA, Philippines - After much delays, the South Luzon Tollway Corp. (SLTC) has finally been awarded the right to operate and maintain the newly rehabilitated South Luzon Expressway (SLEX) tollway.

The Toll Regulatory Board formally served notice to the Philippine National Construction Corp. (PNCC) to turn over the operation and maintenance of SLEX to SLTC and its tollway operation and management company Manila Toll Expressway Systems, Inc. on Friday.

The TRB had granted SLTC the authority to operate the SLEX through a Toll Operation Certificate dated Nov. 27 which provided that MATES was issued the authority to use the SLEX tollway facilities owned by the government and that income from the toll collection under the new operator will be remitted to the government through the TRB.

Isaac David, SLTC president, welcomed the turnover of the SLEX operation and maintenance to their company, pointing out that their P12 billion rehabilitation and improvement of the tollway was now 99 percent complete.

David noted that the takeover of the SLEX was provided for by the Supplemental Toll Operation Agreement it forged with the government in February 2006.

The rehabilitation and upgrading of the 29 kms. South Luzon Tollway and its eight-kilometer extension to Batangas was solely funded by the project investor MTD Capital Berhad of Malaysia.

The former four-lane expressway and its viaducts and bridges have been widened to eight lanes from Alabang to Santa Rosa, and six lanes to Calamba. The extension to Santo Tomas, Batangas involves the laying out of a four-lane tollway currently under construction.

arnolds
December 13th, 2009, 02:36 PM
There was an incident on SLEX southbound 100 meters prior to Mamplasan exit last night, December 12. Does anybody know any details? Someone/something got ran over the 3rd outer lane. Just curious..

Lucentino
December 14th, 2009, 01:12 AM
Kung tao yan sinasabi mo, tanung ko nga dati pa na bakit may nakikita akong mga naglalakad sa tabi o gitna ng SLEx (mga mukhang di naman trabahador dahil nakasibilyan lang)....


Panahon palang ata ni Tita Cory meh TR4 proposal na, anung petsa na laway pa din. Hay naku.

Yes Mayor, yung entry to Manila if galing ka sa Lucena dumaan via Turbina ay detour na ulit ang pasok mo sa SLEX. Gawa inaayos na nila yung lane that will connect SLEX dun sa nakatenggang tulay sa dulo ng SLEX.

Yang Alabang toll booth, ubod ng bagal ang asenso nan, hindi ko maintindihan bakit ang tagal nilang gawin yan. Sa Calamba toll plaza naman, tuloy padin ang pagsasaayos ng bagong toll plazas. Ang taas na nga ng embankment ng bagong toll booths dun sa luma.

Yung magiging HQ ng MTD sa meh Silangan (?), well lighted na pag gabi.

Wag mo nang ipaalala yang history ng TR4 Gov. 888 bumabaligtad lang sikmura ko... wag na lang nating asahan dahil maaprubahan man ito, siguradong marami nanaman haharang dito (simbahan, kaliwa, ibang pulitiko, etc.)... kamay na bakal ang dapat para maipatupad ito at matapos sa lalong madaling panahon.

Pansin ko siguro 5S ang pinapatupad ng (mga?) kumpanyang gumagawa ng Skyway Extension (Alabang to Bicutan). Hindi kasi makalat ang work area nila kahit puspusan ang trabaho. :okay:

absinthe_888
December 14th, 2009, 02:27 AM
There was an incident on SLEX southbound 100 meters prior to Mamplasan exit last night, December 12. Does anybody know any details? Someone/something got ran over the 3rd outer lane. Just curious..

Nakita ng kapatid ko nung pauwi na sha Laguna galing Manila. Sobrang gruesome nang nangyari. Meh lalaking literal na nagkalasog lasog at durog durog yung katawan. Tenga nalang daw at konting buhok natira pati konting ribs. The rest wala na. Yung mga taga PNCC, parang meh hawak na kariton na ginawang pala para "mapala" yung mga remnants nung taong nawasted.

arnolds
December 14th, 2009, 02:49 AM
Nakita ng kapatid ko nung pauwi na sha Laguna galing Manila. Sobrang gruesome nang nangyari. Meh lalaking literal na nagkalasog lasog at durog durog yung katawan. Tenga nalang daw at konting buhok natira pati konting ribs. The rest wala na. Yung mga taga PNCC, parang meh hawak na kariton na ginawang pala para "mapala" yung mga remnants nung taong nawasted.

Wow...:ohno:

absinthe_888
December 15th, 2009, 05:12 AM
Panibagong issue na naman laban sa SLEX...

1,000 PNCC employees face layoff (http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/inquirerheadlines/metro/view/20091215-242063/1000-PNCC-employees-face-layoff)

By Nińa Catherine Calleja
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 00:18:00 12/15/2009

MANILA, Philippine – It won’t be a merry Christmas for at least 1,000 workers of the government-owned Philippine National Construction Corporation (PNCC) who are facing the threat of losing their jobs.

Yesterday, Toll Regulatory Board (TRB) executive director Manuel Imperial issued a final order giving PNCC until 2 p.m. to turn over management and operations of the South Luzon Expressway (SLEx) to Manila Toll Expressway System Inc. (Mates).

Mates is a private group backed by Malaysian toll operator MTD Capital Bhd.

But just an hour before the 2 p.m. deadline, Judge Amelia Manalastas of the Pasig Regional Trial Court Branch 268 granted a three-day temporary restraining order preventing Mates from taking over PNCC’s duties.

Extreme urgency

Manalastas said there was an “extreme urgency” to issue a restraining order to “prevent a violent confrontation between the people of PNCC and Mates, unnecessary loss of revenues, sudden displacement of employees and the confusion and massive traffic” which could arise from the abrupt takeover of the expressway’s operations.

In a press conference, Raul Salunson, PNCC Tollways Supervisors Association president, said Imperial’s order would leave all of them—from the supervisors to the rank-and-file and toll tellers—without jobs.

Illegal takeover

He called the takeover illegal and likened it to a “commando-style coup d’ etat.”

PNCC president Theresa Defensor said that on December 6, 49 Mates employees and security guards “stormed” toll booths being manned by their employees. Armed with a letter from Imperial, the people from Mates tried to force PNCC workers to leave their posts.
Defensor said they asked for help from the police who arrested the 49 people. They also seized nine firearms.

She added that the following day, a dialogue was held among officials of PNCC, Mates and TRB. It was agreed upon during the meeting that instead of a takeover, there would be a handover.

A handover, which normally takes months, meant that PNCC would voluntarily transfer its responsibilities to Mates with the completion of all expressway-related projects, Defensor said.

But on Friday afternoon, she added, Imperial went to her office to give her an order asking the PNCC to immediately turn over to Mates the authority over SLEx operations.

“This is so unfair to the workers. We don’t just fire people. We kept telling (Mates) that we must respect labor laws. We must respect the workers’ rights,” Defensor said.

Senate probe

Salunson said they were planning to ask the Senate blue ribbon committee to probe the takeover.

The 30-year concession granted to PNCC to operate the expressway expired in April 2007. The company, however, continued to operate SLEx because of a toll operations certificate issued by TRB with the permission of Mates.

Grace Casquerro, a PNCC toll teller for the past 10 years, said the holiday season would be a sad one.

A single parent, Casquerro said the takeover was very untimely because her child had just been diagnosed with heart disease and needed to undergo an operation.

“Where will I get the money for the operation if I have no job?” she told the Inquirer, adding that the separation pay she would receive was not enough for her to live on.

“We are asking them to have mercy and give us more time,” Casquerro said.

fall_17
December 15th, 2009, 07:09 AM
How many years na ang lumipas ,proposal parin ang mga road extension na yan, sa tinign ko tulog parin ang construction ng EXTENSION NG SLEX hanggang Lucena.^^

SLEX-STAR LINK, nauumpisahan na, pero kelan pa yan mafi-finish?:ohno:

By the way,Andami ku na pala nasabi.

I like to Join in this Thread.

New Member po pala aku di2!!

step22
December 15th, 2009, 02:09 PM
tagal ko na rin inaabangan ng slex-star link. para naman madali na pagpunta ng manila. sabi dati it will be passable by the end of 2009. mukhang matatagalan pa ata.

daily commuter
December 16th, 2009, 02:41 AM
Panibagong issue na naman laban sa SLEX...

1,000 PNCC employees face layoff (http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/inquirerheadlines/metro/view/20091215-242063/1000-PNCC-employees-face-layoff)

By Nińa Catherine Calleja
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 00:18:00 12/15/2009

MANILA, Philippine – It won’t be a merry Christmas for at least 1,000 workers of the government-owned Philippine National Construction Corporation (PNCC) who are facing the threat of losing their jobs.

Yesterday, Toll Regulatory Board (TRB) executive director Manuel Imperial issued a final order giving PNCC until 2 p.m. to turn over management and operations of the South Luzon Expressway (SLEx) to Manila Toll Expressway System Inc. (Mates).

Mates is a private group backed by Malaysian toll operator MTD Capital Bhd.

But just an hour before the 2 p.m. deadline, Judge Amelia Manalastas of the Pasig Regional Trial Court Branch 268 granted a three-day temporary restraining order preventing Mates from taking over PNCC’s duties.

Extreme urgency

Manalastas said there was an “extreme urgency” to issue a restraining order to “prevent a violent confrontation between the people of PNCC and Mates, unnecessary loss of revenues, sudden displacement of employees and the confusion and massive traffic” which could arise from the abrupt takeover of the expressway’s operations.

In a press conference, Raul Salunson, PNCC Tollways Supervisors Association president, said Imperial’s order would leave all of them—from the supervisors to the rank-and-file and toll tellers—without jobs.

Illegal takeover

He called the takeover illegal and likened it to a “commando-style coup d’ etat.”

PNCC president Theresa Defensor said that on December 6, 49 Mates employees and security guards “stormed” toll booths being manned by their employees. Armed with a letter from Imperial, the people from Mates tried to force PNCC workers to leave their posts.
Defensor said they asked for help from the police who arrested the 49 people. They also seized nine firearms.

She added that the following day, a dialogue was held among officials of PNCC, Mates and TRB. It was agreed upon during the meeting that instead of a takeover, there would be a handover.

A handover, which normally takes months, meant that PNCC would voluntarily transfer its responsibilities to Mates with the completion of all expressway-related projects, Defensor said.

But on Friday afternoon, she added, Imperial went to her office to give her an order asking the PNCC to immediately turn over to Mates the authority over SLEx operations.

“This is so unfair to the workers. We don’t just fire people. We kept telling (Mates) that we must respect labor laws. We must respect the workers’ rights,” Defensor said.

Senate probe

Salunson said they were planning to ask the Senate blue ribbon committee to probe the takeover.

The 30-year concession granted to PNCC to operate the expressway expired in April 2007. The company, however, continued to operate SLEx because of a toll operations certificate issued by TRB with the permission of Mates.

Grace Casquerro, a PNCC toll teller for the past 10 years, said the holiday season would be a sad one.

A single parent, Casquerro said the takeover was very untimely because her child had just been diagnosed with heart disease and needed to undergo an operation.

“Where will I get the money for the operation if I have no job?” she told the Inquirer, adding that the separation pay she would receive was not enough for her to live on.

“We are asking them to have mercy and give us more time,” Casquerro said.

Dapat i-absorb ang mga employees ng PNCC papunta sa payroll ng Mates.

s40
December 16th, 2009, 02:56 AM
Dapat i-absorb ang mga employees ng PNCC papunta sa payroll ng Mates.[/QUOTE]

Problema diyan ang mga legacy employee usually tamad, mahirap turuan, mayabang at reklamador.....

Usually sa isang "merger or acquisition" talagang ni reretire ang luma at nililipol sila kasi mahirap mag dala ng pag babago sa mga luma at makitid ang utak. Ang dapat gawin ng MATES at PNCC sundin ang mga labor law.... Meron dapat retirement pay at "taking care" para sa mawawalan ng trabaho... Hindi pwede na "o bukas wala na kayo dito see you babye - bahala kayo sa buhay niyo"... Isa kang walang prinsipyong negosyante kung ganyan ka at hindi karin magtatagumpay

daily commuter
December 16th, 2009, 04:49 AM
^^ Tama ka Sir S40. Tayo na lang ang mag-take over sa SLEX tapos papirmahin na natin ng early retirement yun mga 10years in service then yun mga wala pang 10 years ay operan natin ng new work sa SLEX.

kratos1211
December 16th, 2009, 04:23 PM
Regulators side with Malaysian investors in dispute over SLEx
Felipe F. Salvosa II and Emilia Narni J. David BusinessWorld

STATE-LED Philippine National Construction Corp. (PNCC) no longer has authority to directly operate the South Luzon Expressway (SLEx), as far as regulators are concerned.

The Toll Regulatory Board (TRB) said yesterday the group of private investors that upgraded the tollway was given a Toll Operation Certificate (TOC) last Nov. 27.

“This effectively invalidates and revokes the TOC given to PNCC sometime in 2007,” said Julius G. Corpuz, TRB spokesman.

PNCC is the original holder of the concession for the North and South Luzon expressways, but its congressional franchise expired two years ago.

With the state-led firm’s legal hold on tollway operations in question, regulators resorted to TOCs, giving one each to private firms operating the North Luzon Expressway and the Metro Manila Skyway under joint ventures with the PNCC.

Amid construction at the SLEx, the TOC was given to PNCC directly.

South Luzon Tollways Corp. or SLTC is PNCC’s joint venture with Malaysian investors to upgrade the major tollway at the cost of P8.5 billion.

Under a 30-year Supplemental Toll Operation Agreement or STOA approved by Malacańang in 2006, in which PNCC agreed to lend its franchise to the SLTC joint venture, SLTC must take over after completing the tollway rehabilitation.

SLTC has widened the 1.2-kilometer Alabang Viaduct and the 27-kilometer stretch of the SLEx from Alabang to Calamba, Laguna.

But the PNCC wants more time to be able to retrench some 1,000 workers and has in fact obtained a temporary restraining order from a Pasig court. The PNCC also claims the SLEx project has yet to be finished.

The new TOC was issued to Manila Toll Expressway System, Inc.

(MATES), an entity meant to serve as the operations and management or O&M firm for SLEx. While MATES is 60% owned by private investors led by Malaysia’s MTD Capital Bhd, PNCC is not entirely out of the picture as it holds 40% of the O&M.

Isaac S. David, MATES and SLTC president, claimed private investors have already lost P1.5 billion in revenues as a result of delays in project completion.

SLTC, though, claims the SLEx is already 99% complete, save for toll plazas, the construction of which was supposedly being blocked by PNCC.

“We should have finished the project in March this year and we should have been collecting revenues from the project since then. But we have not been allowed to build our toll plazas by PNCC,” said Mr. David.

Mr. David said the MATES board had agreed to defer the transfer of operations from PNCC last year to allow the latter more time to secure a franchise from Congress. Lawmakers, however, did not approve PNCC’s application.

Mr. David said PNCC would still be able to get some revenues from SLEx, “but not 100%,” because it is no longer the direct operator and toll collector.

PNCC President Ma. Theresa T. Defensor insisted that the agreement was to hand over the operations of the expressway once the project is completed.

Ms. Defensor previously said the company was only requesting for an extension to provide the necessary 30-day notice of retrenchment to workers.

Mr. David however said SLTC and MATES would be able to absorb employees of the PNCC.

“Forty-five percent of our work force is composed of former PNCC employees and we would still be able to absorb those who would lose their jobs. We also have P110 million available funds for payment to those employees that would be retrenched,” said Mr. David.

Questionable TOCs?

The TRB, though, admits that the legality of TOCs it had issued to various tollway operators is in question, noting various court cases filed by lawmakers and private groups since the PNCC franchise expired in 2007.

But Mr. Corpuz said the TRB is allowed to issue TOCs in lieu of a franchise from Congress under the agency’s charter, Marcos-era Presidential Decree 1112.

“The courts have not decided on whether or not a TOC is a valid grant of authorization,” he added.

Executive Secretary Eduardo R. Ermita ordered the issuance of the TOC to MATES, he said.

As a result of the TOCs, doomsday scenarios made by PNCC officials who had lobbied fiercely for the franchise extension did not materialize. Without the franchise, PNCC officials had claimed, all tollways under the state firm’s jurisdiction would become freeways, as supplemental toll operation agreements or STOAs given to concessionaires no longer have legal basis.

Regulators have approved STOAs with the operator of the North Luzon Expressway from Balintawak to Pampanga, the Manila North Tollways Corp., and Citra Metro Manila Tollway Corp. which runs the elevated Skyway from the Magallanes Interchange to Bicutan.

The government entered into a STOA with the Malaysians in February 2006, paving the way for the long-delayed repair of the SLEx.

Disclosures by MTD Capital to the Malaysian stock exchange showed that in mid-2005, the PNCC committed to “cause the legislative extension of its franchise over the SLEx” to allow SLTC to enjoy all rights, benefits, and privileges of operating the tollway. In case another government entity secures the franchise from Congress, the PNCC must also work to get it in favor of the joint venture with the Malaysians.

The bid to extend the PNCC franchise died in the Senate over objections to a P6.2-billion debt settlement with an offshore firm, Radstock Securities Ltd.

The Supreme Court declared the debt settlement illegal early this month for being disadvantageous to the government, as PNCC would practically give away various assets to a little-known firm to repay questionable loans.

The court said the government now owns the assets, including the toll fees collected by PNCC, following the expiration of its franchise in 2007.

Mr. Corpuz said SLTC could be allowed to raise toll fees after completing the Alabang Viaduct and the SLEx widening from Alabang to Calamba. Under the STOA, SLTC committed to extend the tollway to Sto. Tomas, Batangas and all the way to Lucena, Quezon. --

Goku_25
December 17th, 2009, 07:53 AM
No toll fee hike — SLEx (http://www.mb.com.ph/articles/234368/no-toll-fee-hike-slex)
By JC BELLO RUIZ
December 16, 2009, 5:25pm
The new operator of the South Luzon Expressway (SLEx) said Wednesday that no toll fee increase would be implemented yet on the tollway even if it takes over its operation and maintenance in the coming days.

Isaac David, President of the South Luzon Tollway Corp. (SLTC) said “no toll fee increase will be imposed and the income from the toll collection will be remitted to government through the Toll Regulatory Board (TRB).”

Alma Tuazon, SLTC spokesperson, said the fare adjustment which would be approved first by the TRB, would be implemented when the SLTC takes over the revenue operation of the tollway next year when the rehabilitation of SLEx has been completed.

In lieu of the Philippine National Construction Corp. (PNCC), David said SLTC also agreed to undertake the retrenchment compensation of eligible PNCC employees according to the labor code and other existing laws of the Philippines.

“The allocation for employee compensation has already been deposited and ready to be turned over to the PNCC management upon finalization of an indemnity agreement,” David said stressing that P110 million has been set aside for the benefits of PNCC workers.

Some 1,000 PNCC workers will be reportedly laid off once SLTC’s operation and management arm, Manila Toll Expressway System Inc. (MATES) takes over SLEx.

David even vowed that 1,500 workers would be recruited by MATES to work for the private firm including former PNCC workers.

MATES was supposed to takeover the operation and maintenance of SLEx last December 14 but PNCC was able to secure a three-day temporary restraining order issued by a Pasig court.

SLTC said the “turnover of the SLEx operation to MATES was supposed to have happened upon expiration of the PNCC franchise in April 2007, but PNCC requested to remain as operator while they applied for franchise renewal.

“MATES had deferred to the request on condition that it will takeover upon substantial completion of the project. SLEX concessionaire SLTC has exceeded 95 percent completion of the project and needs to have full control of the toll plaza areas to construct and install the new toll collection system,” SLTC said in a statement.

Retro
December 17th, 2009, 11:47 PM
SLEx toll fees could be raised in April next year :ohno:
BusinessWorld Online Philippines - December 18, 2009

TOLL FEES at the South Luzon Expressway (SLEx) may be raised substantially by April next year once the private concessionnaire responsible for repairing and expanding the 27-kilometer tollway wraps up its work.

For now, however, Metro Toll Expressway System, Inc. (MATES), the operations and management firm tapped by the Malaysian-led SLEx joint venture to run the tollway, has to contend with a state-led firm’s refusal to hand over control.

Isaac S. David, South Luzon Tollway Corp. (SLTC) and MATES president, told reporters yesterday that the increase in toll fees would be in April when the project is completed.

The P8.5-billion repair and expansion from Alabang to Calamba in Laguna, including the widening of the Alabang Viaduct that goes over a busy thoroughfare in Muntinlupa, is practically finished except for toll plazas.

State-led Philippine National Construction Corp. (PNCC), the original SLEx concession owner which is the partner of Malaysia’s MTD Capital Bhd in SLTC and MATES, wants a one-month delay in the handover, claiming it needed to comply with rules in retrenching workers. Mr. David claims PNCC has been blocking the construction of toll plazas while at the same time complaining that the SLEx construction has been delayed.

Regulators transferred the authority to operate SLEx to MATES last Nov. 27 but PNCC has brought the matter to court, securing a three-day stay order.

"When we are named as the operators of SLEx there is no increase in toll fees even if we are allowed already to collect revenues at 95% completion. By April there would be an increase similar to the rates of the North Luzon Expressway (NLEx)," Mr. David said.

The Toll Regulatory Board (TRB) said MATES must first apply for an increase after the project is completed.

"[MATES and SLTC] haven’t applied yet. SLTC and MATES may only be entitled to an increase in tolls once they have finished the Alabang Viaduct and up to Calamba complete with toll facilities," TRB spokesperson Julius G. Corpuz said.

Toll fees at the SLEx in the stretch from Alabang to Calamba cost P22 for light vehicles, P43 for buses and P65 for heavy trucks. Toll fees at the NLEx, which is operated by a different concession, cost P174 for cars, P435 for buses and P522 for heavy trucks, from Balintawak in Quezon City to Sta. Ines, Pampanga.

Under a 30-year Supplemental Toll Operation Agreement approved by Malacańang in 2006, in which PNCC agreed to lend its franchise to the SLTC joint venture, SLTC must take over after completing the tollway rehabilitation. The three-day stay order issued Monday led to a status quo.

While the order has expired, all parties agreed to put off any action until a court hearing on Monday.

"We agreed that there would not be any actions until the next hearing on Monday and we will not do any actions but to talk with PNCC. However, we cannot say the same for the government because they could enforce the immediate handover order," said Mr. David.

He added that talks between the two have been amicable.

Ma. Theresa T. Defensor, PNCC president, said the temporary restraining order was beneficial for everyone because "it has forced the hand of everyone to talk about a proper handover because our issue is the illegal and forceful takeover."

PNCC’s congressional franchise expired two years ago, forcing the TRB to hand out temporary certificates to all tollway operators. By law, PNCC should hand over all tollways to the government at no cost. Disputes over the legality of the certificates have yet to be resolved by the courts. -- Emilia Narni J. David

absinthe_888
December 18th, 2009, 02:08 AM
SLEx toll fees could be raised in April next year :ohno:

Nobody wants an increase in toll fees...But this is the price we have to pay for progress. Basta maganda ang expressway, mabigat man sa bulsa, ok lang.

Kaso, ang problema, ginagawa ang Stage 2 ng Skyway so if pa Manila ka, double whammy ka sa toll fee at gas, not to mention the horrible traffic.

Pero, NO TOLL INCREASE hanggang hindi fully 100% complete ang SLEX.

ICHUO_MX
December 18th, 2009, 07:39 AM
Nobody wants an increase in toll fees...But this is the price we have to pay for progress. Basta maganda ang expressway, mabigat man sa bulsa, ok lang.

Kaso, ang problema, ginagawa ang Stage 2 ng Skyway so if pa Manila ka, double whammy ka sa toll fee at gas, not to mention the horrible traffic.

Pero, NO TOLL INCREASE hanggang hindi fully 100% complete ang SLEX.

Dito sa Nlex, saka sila nag increased nung operational na ang nlex. tapos bumaba ng bumaba ang toll rates. tapos naging stable na.

Retro
December 18th, 2009, 07:17 PM
Court’s stay order ends; tollway takeover pressed
Manila Standard Today - December 18, 2009
by Jeremiah F. de Guzman

About P100 million is allotted for retrenchment as the Philippine National Construction Corp. hands over the control of the South Luzon Expressway to a new management after a court stay order lapsed on Thursday.

In a press briefing midweek, president Isaac David of South Luzon Tollway Corp. said its operation and management arm, Manila Toll Expressway System Inc., should have taken the reins from PNCC under a memorandum dated Aug. 19 signed by Executive Secretary Eduardo Ermita ordering the Toll Regulatory Board to authorize the takeover.

“In four or five months, the project will be 100-percent complete,” David told reporters at the Dusit Thani Hotel in Makati City.

“We are now ready to assume operation and management of SLEX since March of this year,” he added, noting that 95 percent of the makeover—a pre-requisite to take control of the expressway—has been made.

“We have no intention to forcibly take over SLEX from PNCC with the resistance from them,” David said. “I can guarantee and commit that but we cannot speak for the government.”

According to David, almost P12 billion have been spent on advance payments made by the company to suppliers.

“We are also looking at having a month transition period so that PNCC employees can prepare for our entry.”

A Toll Operation Certificate dated Nov. 27 authorized MATES to use the SLEX facilities now owned by the government.

In his Dec. 3 order, executive director Manuel Imperial, of the regulatory board, gave PNCC officials until 2 p.m. of Dec. 14 to yield control of the tollway to MATES.

But PNCC applied with the Pasig City Regional Trial Court for a temporary restraining order against immediate takeover on Monday, which lapsed 1 p.m. on Thursday.

Branch 268 Judge Amelita Manalastas signed the stay order “to prevent a violent confrontation between the people of PNCC and Mates, unnecessary loss of revenues, sudden displacement of employees and the confusion and massive traffic” that may arise from the takeover.

For travelers, David said toll fees would be frozen until April next year, when the rehabilitation project shall have been completed.

PNCC owns 40 percent of MATES, while 60 percent is owned equally by local firm Alloy Manila Expressway Inc. and the Malaysian firm subsidiary MTD Manila Expressways Inc. With Gigi Muńoz David and Rudy Brul

absinthe_888
December 19th, 2009, 03:55 AM
Update as of Dec 18 10 PM

Sarado yung pa exit going to Batangas, inaayos nila. So if you're going to Batangas, derecho ka pa Calamba until reaching halfway of the exit curve (sorry hindi ko alam tawag :D) tapos turn left ka going to Turbina ulit.

fall_17
December 19th, 2009, 11:26 AM
SLEX-STAR link.

any update...

Actually mahirap makuhanan ng pics ang road extension na iyan.

dun lang sa bungad ng calamba interchange pede...

absinthe_888
December 19th, 2009, 05:28 PM
^^ Kung galing ka Turbina pa Manila, magandang makuhanan dun yung link.

Isa pang update, mukang tapos na ang girder launching ng FSI sa San Juan bridge.

Traffic at the SLEX during this holiday season is HELL.

lat42
December 20th, 2009, 07:21 AM
You can actually see the TR-3 connection when you go inside the greenfields.

Lucentino
December 20th, 2009, 01:51 PM
Update din... ginagamit na ang bagong gawang temporary toll booths sa Carmona/Binan Exit... demolition of old and construction of new booths might follow next year... sorry no pics got my hands on the wheel and tollfee... :)

balay_1
December 20th, 2009, 08:33 PM
The bid to extend the PNCC franchise died in the Senate over objections to a P6.2-billion debt settlement with an offshore firm, Radstock Securities Ltd.

The Supreme Court declared the debt settlement illegal early this month for being disadvantageous to the government, as PNCC would practically give away various assets to a little-known firm to repay questionable loans.


Wala na talagang ginawang maganda itong PNCC. Ito news article na magpapakita ng sobra at talamak na mismanagement at corruption sa ahensyang ito. Kaya laging walang pera yung gobyerno natin.:ohno:

SC junks P6.1-B PNCC-Radstock deal (http://business.inquirer.net/money/topstories/view/20091214-242028/SC-junks-P61-B-PNCC-Radstock-deal)

By Daxim Lucas
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 22:51:00 12/14/2009

MANILA, Philippines--A CONTROVERSIAL DEAL THAT WOULD HAVE ceded more than P6 billion worth of Philippine National Construction Corp. (PNCC) funds and assets to a British Virgin Islands-based shell company has been struck down by the Supreme Court for being “grossly disadvantageous” to the government.

In a 90-page decision, Associate Justice Antonio Carpio said the case represented “an anatomy of a pillage of the public coffers that ranks among one of the most brazen and hideous in the history of this country.”:ohno:

The high tribunal voted 8-4 to nullify the deal between PNCC and Radstock Securities Inc. for being unconstitutional and “contrary to existing laws and public policy.”

The transaction was hatched in October 2000 and was affirmed by the Court of Appeals in January 2007, over the objections of lawmakers like Sen. Franklin Drilon and former PNCC chair Luis Sison, who both actively campaigned to have the deal rescinded.

It stemmed from a $5-million loan that the defunct CDCP Mining Corp. secured from Japanese conglomerate Marubeni Corp. in 1978 and another P2-billion loan two years later. CDCP eventually defaulted on the loan, which ballooned to P18 billion, including penalties.

Marubeni stopped sending demand letters in 1986, with the loan prescribing—becoming invalid or unenforceable—in 1996, as provided for by the Civil Code.

Four years later, the board of PNCC (CDCP’s successor in interest) voted to recognize the entire uncollectible loan of P18 billion which, at that time, had already been bought by Radstock from Marubeni for a mere P100 million.

Amid the negative publicity created by the deal, negotiations brought the value of the “compromise agreement” to P6.1 billion.

“This case answers the questions why our government perennially runs out of funds to provide basic services to our people, why the great masses of the Filipino people wallow in poverty, and why a very select few amass unimaginable wealth at the expense of the Filipino people,” he added.

The Supreme Court cited several reasons for striking down the deal, including the fact that paying Radstock would have benefited a private company at the expense of the national government, to which PNCC continues to owe P36 billion in back taxes.:ohno:

The compromise deal—which included parcels of PNCC-owned property as well as half of the company’s earnings from its toll operations for the next 27 years—would have also bankrupted PNCC, according to its critics.

“In sum, the acts of the PNCC board in... expressly admitting liability for the Marubeni loans, and entering into the compromise agreement, constitute evident bad faith and gross inexcusable negligence, amounting to fraud, in the management of PNCC’s affairs,” the Supreme Court said.

“Being public officers, the government nominees in the PNCC board must answer not only to PNCC and its stockholders, but also to the Filipino people for grossly mishandling PNCC’s finances,” it added.

Pati yung operation at maintenance ng SLEX ayaw pang ibigay ng PNCC sa SLTC. Naghain pa ng TRO para pigilan at i-delay ang pag-turn over.:ohno:

Kailangan talaga sa private sector na ang SLEX para maganda ang maintenance at operation kagaya sa NLEX. Para naman world-class na rin ito.:lol:

kratos1211
December 21st, 2009, 12:49 AM
Property developers eyeing land beside SLEx extension


A PROJECT to extend the South Luzon Expressway (SLEx) all the way to Quezon province is already gaining interest from a number of property developers, the head of the joint venture undertaking the tollway project said last week.

South Luzon Tollways Corp. (SLTC) President Isaac D. David said in an interview that real estate companies have already expressed interest in developing land beside the planned extension of the SLEx to Lucena.

"We have already heard from developers like Ayala, Eton, Globe Asiatique, Carmelray, Nuvali, and Crowne Asia that the extension would be something that is interesting to them," said Mr. David.

He added that some 7,000 hectares are being developed in anticipation of the tollway extension.

SLTC was contracted three years ago to extend the expressway from Calamba in Laguna to Lucena in Quezon, along with the ongoing tollway upgrade and expansion.

Mr. David said developers are already anticipating the vehicular traffic that would come with the extension.

The expressway extension has not yet begun because the SLTC is focusing on completing the first phase of the project, which is to expand the SLEx to eight lanes from five lanes from Sta. Rosa to Calamba, and to add new toll plazas on the whole stretch from Alabang to Calamba, Mr. David explained. A connection to the Star Tollway going to Batangas is also being built.

"We are right now doing engineering due diligence. The extension is being studied and designed but it still depends on the right of way [acquisition]," said Mr. David.

He added that the extension could be done in "three to four years’ time."

The company is in discussions with the operator of the SLEx, the Philippine National Construction Corp., a minor shareholder, regarding the operation of the expressway. Both companies have agreed not to make any moves regarding the transfer of operations in the expressway until today. -- Emilia Narni J. David

absinthe_888
December 21st, 2009, 03:46 AM
^^ Sosyal na mga pupunta sa Villa at Hacienda Escudero :D

fall_17
December 21st, 2009, 05:13 AM
but, pangit ang location ng turbina, yun at yun parin ang hitsura di pa nagbabago.


yung tunkol po sa girder launching mukhang tapos na, sesementuhin nalang.^^

fall_17
December 21st, 2009, 05:16 AM
meron pa, dun po sa likod ng yazaki torres makikita ang r3 extension.^^

fall_17
December 21st, 2009, 05:23 AM
I dont know kung kasama sa TR-3 connection yung existing Interchange na naka-proposed sa SLEX extension.

Kung kasama man yan sa construction sana makuhanan ko ng pics.:)

this is near on Barangay Anastacia.

Retro
December 21st, 2009, 07:06 AM
Proponent eyes IFC loan for SLEX extension to Lucena next year
The Manila Times.Net - Monday, 21 December 2009
SOUTH Luzon Tollways Corp. (SLTC) plans to extend the South Luzon Expressway (SLEX) up to Lucena next year. Isaac David, SLTC president, told reporters that the 55-kilometer highway extension will cost about P10 billion.

The project is scheduled for completion within 30 months.

David said the project will be funded through 70-percent loan and 30-percent equity.

”If the money will be available locally, we might avail of it. However, if there’s no money available to lend, we can go [to] foreign banks,” he said.

David said the company may tap the International Finance Corp. (IFC) to party fund the project.

He said that SLTC did not avail the P7.5 billion loan from IFC for the SLEX project because of the problem in the franchise of Philippine National Construction Corp. (PNCC).

Regulators have since decided to transfer the operations of SLEX to the Manila Toll Expressway System Inc. (MATES), which is set to assume responsibility for the tollway today.

Under a 30-year Supplemental Toll Operation Agreement (STOA) approved by Malacańang in 2006, SLTC must take over the SLEX when the rehabilitation and expansion of the thoroughfare nears completion, and if state-led PNCC fails to get an extension of its franchise in Congress.

David said the SLEX is already 98-percent complete and the franchise of PNCC was not extended.

The P12-billion rehab of SLEX widened the 1.2-kilometer Alabang viaduct and the 27-kilometer stretch of the tollway from Alabang to Calamba, Laguna.

The former 29-kilometer, four-lane expressway, which starts at the approach to the Alabang viaduct in Muntinlupa City to Barangay Turbina in Calamba, has been widened to eight lanes from the viaduct to Santa Rosa, Laguna, and to six lanes from Santa Rosa to Barangay Turbina.

SLEX would also be extended by another 8 kilometers from Barangay Turbina to Santo Tomas, Batangas, thus linking the highway to the Southern Tagalog Arterial Road. - DARWIN G. AMOJELAR

absinthe_888
December 21st, 2009, 07:24 AM
Proponent eyes IFC loan for SLEX extension to Lucena next year

Mayor Lucy, isa na namang "press statement" sa TR4 :nuts:

SamwiseGamgee
December 22nd, 2009, 03:58 PM
SLEX-STAR Connection (http://datrekker.blogspot.com/2009/12/slex-star-connection.html)

The stretch of the future highway that aims to connect the South Luzon Expressway (SLEX) to the Southern Tagalog Arterial Road (STAR) Tollway is slowly taking shape as shown by the photos on this page. The SLEX starts from Manila and ends in Calamba City in Laguna, while the STAR Tollway, a.k.a. Apolinario Mabini Superhighway (AMS), starts from Sto. Tomas, Batangas and ends in Batangas City.

With the connection, travel time from Manila to Batangas City would be further reduced and rendered more efficient for cars, trucks and buses, especially to those using the RORO service of the Strong Republic Nautical Highway to the Visayas and Mindanao.


http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_unmxF2MUe90/Sy4mJC6e5jI/AAAAAAAAB78/LzAMUiE00ng/s400/P1050287.jpg
View from Spine Road Bridge looking towards Calamba

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_unmxF2MUe90/Sy4mJjboCxI/AAAAAAAAB8E/GcgBCWlMwds/s400/P1050285.jpg
View from Spine Road Bridge looking towards new toll plaza in Saimsim

Read more (http://datrekker.blogspot.com/2009/12/slex-star-connection.html).

Goku_25
December 23rd, 2009, 02:06 AM
^^Mukhang hindi yata ito aabot ng December 31 deadline yung extension to STAR.... May parts pang hindi pa tapos, yung nakita ko rin sa blog na pinost mo....

absinthe_888
December 23rd, 2009, 02:33 AM
^^ Hindi talaga yan aabot. Based sa nakikita kong construction works ng SLEX-STAR bridge.

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Mukang ang gagawin ng MTD/ MATES sa Calamba tollgate ay 4 toll booths para sa northbound direction. Sa tingin ko, magiiging napakalaking problema ito sa trapik pag natapos na gawa 4 na toll booth entry lang gagawin nila.

Hindi pa nga nagagamit, ang dami nang scrape marks at tama ng bagong toll booths sa Calamba.

At ang trapiiiiik!!!! :bash:

SamwiseGamgee
December 23rd, 2009, 04:57 AM
^^Mukhang hindi yata ito aabot ng December 31 deadline yung extension to STAR.... May parts pang hindi pa tapos, yung nakita ko rin sa blog na pinost mo....

IMO, hindi talaga aabot sa deadline na sinabi nyo. Actually, the photos were taken a month ago, but after a month, nothing much has changed, except for the toll gates.

I'll try to take the latest photos... :)

fall_17
December 23rd, 2009, 05:21 AM
kahit pa anong sabihin nyo, few Months pa aabutin,2-4 months siguro pwede pa nating mabihin na ma-cocomplete na nila ang road then hiwalay pa dun ang pag-coconstruction ng mga Interchanges , Toll plaza.:lol:

fall_17
December 23rd, 2009, 05:26 AM
YES!

mas ma-uuna yata matapos ang pag-coconstruction ng mga existing interchange at toll plaza's kay sa pag-coconstruct ng main road.

Isipin nalang natin na si Makiling ang Sinisira natin, xempre Ayun, Alam na natin yun.

kratos1211
December 23rd, 2009, 09:08 AM
sa april na ang deadline nila sa completion ng mga toll booths and plaza. Ang deadline nila for the end of the year is the major road work from alabang to calamba

bluesgnt30
December 24th, 2009, 01:16 AM
konting update:

nirereconstruct yung gilid ng both lane ng interchange sa Southwoods..
Yung San Juan bridge eh mejo matatagalan pa ata based on what I've seen.

Sa SLEX - STAR connection naman.. nakita ko lang yung bridge dun sa Calamba pa Sto. Tomas, pinapatag pa yung lupa para sa asphalt overlaying.

nirerepair pa din yung Calamba bridge sa interchange.

absinthe_888
December 24th, 2009, 01:39 AM
^^ Gabi mo ba nakita yung San Juan bridge? Kalahati ng tulay meh buhos na at meh concrete barrier na nakaporma.

bluesgnt30
December 24th, 2009, 02:32 AM
^^umaga ko nakita.. yung panorth bound eh madami pang works yung right side naman patapos na. Maalog kasi dun sa tulay kaya tingin ko around 65% pa lang yung kumpleto.. Sa Calamba interchange naman, 1 lane lang yung nagagamit (if you're from Calamba going to Batangas, you can use the bridge, pero yung Manila bound vehicles eh dadaan dun sa temporary access road para makatawid papuntang Calamba/crossing.

absinthe_888
December 24th, 2009, 02:49 AM
^^ Siguro by February tapos na yung tulay na yan. Pag hindi pa,eh talagang good luck na lang :D

Nako, sobrang trapiiiiiiiiiiiiiik papauntang Calamba ngayon. Kaya nakakatamad nang pumunta Manila.

bluesgnt30
December 24th, 2009, 03:02 AM
^^yup.. kahapon ok naman ang traffic panorthbound. mejo naging moderate lang pagdating sa Toll Plaza. tas totally traffic sa San Pedro - Alabang.. Laging traffic sa Alabang nakakaasar hahaha

metrosuburban
December 24th, 2009, 05:56 AM
it's bumper to bumper (no movement) from San Pedro exit to Alabang everyday from 11 am to 10pm. When this happens, some motorists usually exit Susana Heights, take the equally congested National Highway in Muntinlupa then off to Alabang exit. But for those who chose to stay inside the tollway, expect at least an hour to cross that 5km stretch and spend a few more hundreds of pesos of wasted gasoline..

bluesgnt30
December 24th, 2009, 06:02 AM
^^good idea, but in our case, we have no choice. :) We're not really familiar in Susana Heights, that's why we're still using the Alabang portion though it's always traffic.. Enjoying the greenery of the South while simultaneously seeing the hideous traffic haha.

barrera_marquez
December 24th, 2009, 08:45 AM
YES!

mas ma-uuna yata matapos ang pag-coconstruction ng mga existing interchange at toll plaza's kay sa pag-coconstruct ng main road.

Isipin nalang natin na si Makiling ang Sinisira natin, xempre Ayun, Alam na natin yun.

Is that good or bad news? By the context of your words, natutuwa ka sa salitang YES! pero may sarcasm dito sa katagang ito: "mas ma-uuna yata matapos ang pag-coconstruction ng mga existing interchange at toll plaza's kay sa pag-coconstruct ng main road."

As far as I know, dapat mauunang matapos ang main road bago ang interchanges.

barrera_marquez
December 24th, 2009, 08:47 AM
^^ Siguro by February tapos na yung tulay na yan. Pag hindi pa,eh talagang good luck na lang :D

Nako, sobrang trapiiiiiiiiiiiiiik papauntang Calamba ngayon. Kaya nakakatamad nang pumunta Manila.

Mag-tren na lang kayo...

step22
December 24th, 2009, 01:02 PM
alin bang tulay ang sinasabi nyo? yung magcoconnect sa slex at star? tagal na yari nung pinakagitna e how about yung part ng tulay na yun punta sa slex at yung punta sa star mukha nga matatagalan pa yun. di ata ginagawa bagal ata ng work nila. sana mayari na agad yung connection para naman mas madali na pagluwas naming mga taga south...

bluesgnt30
December 24th, 2009, 02:41 PM
^^yung maliit na viaduct pa lang yung visible.. I'm pertaining to the end of existing SLEX at Calamba Interchange.. How about sa Star? any update.

fall_17
December 24th, 2009, 06:02 PM
My good news then my Bad news din, Base on the pictures, obiously na malapit na matapos ang mga toll plaza, exit sa r3 connection then complicated pa, ang the rest of connection , marami pa di nasesementuhan at di pa naka-finishing ang iba.^^

kratos1211
December 25th, 2009, 12:23 AM
SLTC welcomes likely entry of MPIC in SLEx
By Paolo Montecillo Philippine Daily Inquirer

THE CONCESSIONAIRE OF SOUTH LUZON Expressway (SLEx) is hopeful that a partnership with local infrastructure giant Metro Pacific Investments Corp. (MPIC) will result in a world-class highway system through vital parts of Luzon.

Last month, MPIC chair Manuel V. Pangilinan expressed interest in acquiring a 20-percent stake in South Luzon Tollways Corp. (SLTC), currently held by Philippine National Construction Corp. (PNCC).

Pangilinan intends to use these would-be voting rights in the firm to pave the way for the seamless connection of SLEx with counterpart Northern Luzon Expressway (NLEx), which MPIC owns and operates.

Isaac David, SLTC president, in a recent interview welcomed the prospective entry of MPIC, saying the operational efficiencies that this would result would benefit both companies. Motorists using the highway would be able to enjoy the convenience that such partnership would produce.

“It will benefit us both. The management of the traffic will be better and easier... It will also be more efficient and convenient for all motorists, so we welcome that (partnership with MPIC),” David said.

David earlier said MTD Capital Berhad, the Malaysian firm that owns 80 percent of SLTC, has the right to be offered to buy PNCC’s stake in SLTC before being sold to anyone else.

MPIC is backed by the influential Salim family of Indonesia.

Despite this, he said “we have no problems with whoever comes in SLTC.” “We have yet to get a proposal from MPIC, but we are open to talks,” David said.

Goku_25
December 25th, 2009, 01:37 AM
^^Mas mabuti nga i-acquire ang SLTC ng MPIC para seamless talaga ang biyahe lalu na pag connected na ang Skyway sa NLEx at SLEx....

dewlin07
December 25th, 2009, 04:42 PM
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Wala na problema yung mga places na mabundok... :lol: Sipag ang mga Chinese...:cheers::) Pwede na ito papuntang Albay kung ganun ang SLEX...:nuts:

Go Global
December 25th, 2009, 06:24 PM
Wala na problema yung mga places na mabundok... :lol: Sipag ang mga Chinese...:cheers::) Pwede na ito papuntang Albay kung ganun ang SLEX...:nuts:

Mayaman kamo. Can afford. Eh ang Pinoy ? Wa datung kaya no use to compare. Eh yung Skyway nga, ngayon pa lang tinatapos kasi kinapos ng pera years ago. Mayaman tayo sa utang. Di tulad ng Chinese, nagpapautang.

balay_1
December 25th, 2009, 09:00 PM
The Alabang Viaduct of SLEX. Notice the traffic.:ohno:

Taken last December 21, 2009. :banana: (Alabang CBD at the background)

http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/8719/dsc00055r.jpg

Kaya ko nakuhanan iyan kasi ma-traffic. :lol:

dewlin07
December 26th, 2009, 04:31 AM
Mayaman kamo. Can afford. Eh ang Pinoy ? Wa datung kaya no use to compare. Eh yung Skyway nga, ngayon pa lang tinatapos kasi kinapos ng pera years ago. Mayaman tayo sa utang. Di tulad ng Chinese, nagpapautang.

Kaya naman ng Pilipinas yan eh, SIpag at Tiyaga lang yan. Pag wala ang graft and corruption sa government, madali tapusin ang Skyway na yan. Ang mahalaga diyan, pag may plano, action kaagad. Para may pakinabang naman ang mga kapamilya natin:)

OT: May chinese contractor ba tayo dito sa Pilipinas? Para mabilis ang progress ng construction..:nuts:

Sorry sa OT...:)

kratos1211
December 26th, 2009, 05:48 AM
paano matatapos kaagad ang skyway and slex, eh hindi naman ito 24/7 ang construction at hindi sabay sabay ang mga sections ginagawa. Ang project deadline set locally is kalookohan, 100% of the time, hindi namimeet ang completion date. 2 - 3 times ang extention and parating may cost overrun. It is me, when I compare it to other construction jobs aboard, workers there seem 2x more productive.

fall_17
December 26th, 2009, 07:19 AM
Yung mga pics po ng tollway sa china compare sa philippines, walang wala talagang laban ang pilipinas sa pagandahan ng tollway.

Then yung sinabi mung kelangan natin ng mga chinese na tutulong sa mga construction.....Kaya na iyan ng mga pinoy...:bash:


Asahan natin na tatagal pa ang construction.:lol::lol:

fall_17
December 26th, 2009, 07:22 AM
D naman kelangan na maging 24/7 ang construction ng skyway-SLEX, basta the rest ay sabay sabay ginagawa,hindi lang sa iisang lugar lang.:cheers:

dewlin07
December 26th, 2009, 09:31 AM
Yung mga pics po ng tollway sa china compare sa philippines, walang wala talagang laban ang pilipinas sa pagandahan ng tollway.

Then yung sinabi mung kelangan natin ng mga chinese na tutulong sa mga construction.....Kaya na iyan ng mga pinoy...:bash:


Asahan natin na tatagal pa ang construction.:lol::lol:

haha.... Nice one.:)

bluesgnt30
December 26th, 2009, 11:46 AM
I think the management should focus on accomplishing the link first or, increase the manpower at the link since this is the most complicated part of the project (it's always delayed)

dewlin07
December 26th, 2009, 03:11 PM
Yung mga pics po ng tollway sa china compare sa philippines, walang wala talagang laban ang pilipinas sa pagandahan ng tollway.

Then yung sinabi mung kelangan natin ng mga chinese na tutulong sa mga construction.....Kaya na iyan ng mga pinoy...:bash:


Asahan natin na tatagal pa ang construction.:lol::lol:

haha.... Nice one.:)

edly
December 27th, 2009, 02:35 PM
SLEX-STAR link.

any update...

Actually mahirap makuhanan ng pics ang road extension na iyan.

dun lang sa bungad ng calamba interchange pede...

You can actually see the TR-3 connection when you go inside the greenfields.

Below are the pics of SLEX-STAR tollway link when we jogged inside Ayala Greenfields near Saimsim road last December 26:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/28907540@N02/4218189741/
Greenfields Road leading to bridge where SLEX-STAR connection is located
http://www.flickr.com/photos/28907540@N02/4218959056/
View from Greenfileds bridge of the connection.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/28907540@N02/4218195523/
View on the other side (looking north into STAR-SLEX connection
http://www.flickr.com/photos/28907540@N02/4218199857/
Equipment with the blue pipe as the remaining 'obstruction' of the paving of SLEX.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/28907540@N02/4218969426/
The twin tollgates of Saimsim. Looks good.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/28907540@N02/4218219753/
Saimsim bridge with the existing barangay road on the right. Twin tollgates can be located on the extreme right (out of pic).

Sorry, got problems with posting again...

fall_17
December 27th, 2009, 03:58 PM
haha.... Nice one.:)



Matalino ang mga pinoy, Kung kaya nila isipin kayang gawin..:nuts:

Sana ibaling nila ito sa pag-co-construction ng SLEX at Skyway.:bash:

barrera_marquez
December 27th, 2009, 11:55 PM
We already did that in SCTEx, why can't we do it again?

bluesgnt30
December 28th, 2009, 01:25 AM
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I just repost it to provide a more convenient way of viewing these pics..Anyway, do you know where the interchange will be located? Kamusta yung Sto. Tomas portion? Masyado atang pababa yung road...

So there's a new exit/interchange to exist? - Saimsim Interchange?

groundzero
December 28th, 2009, 05:45 AM
we just passed here a while ago when we went to Batangas. :D

The road is smooth and the roadworks, can i say, is done. Toll Booths and other stuff are the only one left to be finished.

dewlin07
December 28th, 2009, 06:21 AM
We already did that in SCTEx, why can't we do it again?

oo nga. Gayahin nalang yung SCTEX... World Class talaga. :)

dewlin07
December 28th, 2009, 06:22 AM
Matalino ang mga pinoy, Kung kaya nila isipin kayang gawin..:nuts:

Sana ibaling nila ito sa pag-co-construction ng SLEX at Skyway.:bash:

Basta sipag at tiyaga lang yan, walang tigil tigil, walang arguments, walang problema, walang corruption, SIGURADO MATATAPOS AGAD ANG SKYWAY AT SLEX YAN.

balay_1
December 28th, 2009, 09:47 AM
Basta sipag at tiyaga lang yan, walang tigil tigil, walang arguments, walang problema, walang corruption, SIGURADO MATATAPOS AGAD ANG SKYWAY AT SLEX YAN.

Agree. Corruption cripples a nation's system and it affects the Philippines' image for the investors.

Skyway will be finished on time soon. Delayed SLEX will be finished soon. (probably April 2010):)

PNCC lang talaga ang nagpabagal sa construction ng SLEX dahil sa pag-expire ng franchise nito. Kaya ayun, di muna naglagay ng pera ang MTD. Pati yung toll booths construction hinaharang ng PNCC para di muna maka-collect yung MATES. Ayaw lang pakawalan ng PNCC yung SLEX kasi malaki kita nito sa toll. Sa dami ba naman ng dumadaan sa SLEX.:lol:

For the next president: sana matigil na ang mga corruption sa mga government agencies, departments. at GOCCs.:)

bluesgnt30
December 28th, 2009, 10:11 AM
What they need is proper funding and more human resources. There are lots of people who's unemployed (skilled laborers) I think they should be given an opportunity to this project. That's a win-win situation.

absinthe_888
December 28th, 2009, 05:15 PM
Here's James Deakins' take on the PNCC-MATES controversy. Last week na column pa nya to.

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South Luzon Stalemate (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=535098&publicationSubCategoryId=72)
BACKSEAT DRIVER By James Deakin (The Philippine Star) Updated December 23, 2009 12:00 AM

We’ve all come across that hotshot who thinks he owns the road. Annoying, to say the least, but at least we always have the option to just give way and move on once that sensible little voice in our head speaks up. But what happens when one of those “hotshots” actually paid 12 billion pesos for the road, and the other hotshot refuses to give way despite a direct order from the Office of the President? Well, it’s better to stand back, get some popcorn and welcome in the Philippine entry to the World Pyro Olympics.

Call it the ultimate case of road rage, but that is exactly what is happening over at the South Luzon Expressway (SLEX). Hopefully the issue will have been resolved by the time this article sees print, but as of this writing, we have the corporate equivalent of two SUVs with their illegally-sirened convoys trying to run each other off the roads. Yes, guns and all.

Last December 6, the staff of the Manila Toll Expressway Systems (MATES), the legal owners of the SLEX franchise until 2036, came in to seize power from the PNCC, who they claim have been effectively operating without a license since their contract expired in April 2007 and their toll operation certificate was withdrawn. It ended with PNCC guards pointing their guns at the heads of female clerks, 49 staff of MATES being detained and nine shotguns being confiscated, according to MATES president, Isaac David.

PNCC president, Maria Teresa Defensor, claims that they treated the presence of the MATES staff as an attack on their own, hence the arrests, while the MATES management see it as a case of the bullying squatter lord that stoops to crying human rights abuse once the legal land owner comes in to develop his own property.

Now it would almost be worth it just for the sheer entertainment of it all you may say, but sadly, when giants fight it is always the little people who get hurt, and there are far reaching consequences here for each of the 170,000 motorists that ply the road everyday.

First up is safety. While the bitter war goes on between the two groups, kilometers and kilometers of fencing, as well as aluminum highway signs are being stolen regularly. MATES claim that it is all because the PNCC have denied security staff access to the highway to protect their investment, and worse, are purposely turning a blind eye to the theft during their absence, even though they are 40% share owners of MATES.

Defensor denies this, and claims that PNCC have been nothing less than cooperative.

MATES has not been able to put a peso figure on the theft just yet because as they say, “How can we? It is happening now as we speak. So the cost is always rising for us. As of March, however, we have lost 1.5 billion pesos. That’s not including the fencing and fiber optic wires that have been cut,” David continued. But more worrying than the financial cost is the security breach that could end in disaster if the proverbial chicken crosses the road. Or worse, a carabao. Try hitting that at 100 km/h.

Second is the human issue. Despite having two years notice, PNCC are playing up the “1,000 Filipinos will lose their jobs before Christmas” angle, while MATES are reacting with, “1,500 new Filipino jobs are being shelved until after Christmas”. Either way you see it, you have to admit, it doesn’t exactly look good to our foreign investors. As of now, MATES claims to have 800 full-time employees on the payroll showing up to work everyday with nothing else to do except to witness this fight. They are like a paid audience, so to speak.

The PNCC is holding onto the argument that they do not need to turn over control (and more importantly, toll collections) until MATES has reached substantial completion of the project, which according to the agreement needs to be at 95% or above. MATES claim to have achieved that as of March this year and are quick to point out that they have been audited by the only officially endorsed government appointed firm, BCEOM, which estimates their completion to be at 98% – the remaining 2% being the construction of the toll plazas, which are the very ones they claim to be denied proper access to.

Defensor claims that another officially endorsed agency audited the completion to be less than the substantial 95% and had a TRO issued through a Pasig court to prevent MATES from taking over.

I’m not here to argue the merits of the case, though – there are plenty of people paid far more than me who will do that for them; I have simply presented to you both sides as explained to me personally by both presidents. You make up your minds from there.

But what I can say is that, while I am no legal eagle, as a regular motorist, I know the difference between night and day. When PNCC used to have the sole control of our toll roads, it was hardly the picture of highway excellence; we had potholes, flooding, abusive convoys drawing guns on innocent motorists (and getting away with it), no emergency service vehicles on standby, extremely poor lighting in just a fraction of the highway, overloaded trucks, erroneous charging on the e-pass system, dreadful traffic and a one dimensional scanner at the toll plaza that could not tell the difference between a bicycle and a bus, which is why I pay almost as much for the 2 kilometer stretch from Nichols to Merville than I do on the SCTEX from Tarlac to NLEX every time I put my bike on my roof rack.

Politics aside, just like their counterparts in the North, its hard to not notice the improvements that MATES have done down south. They have already widened the former 4-lane expressway and its viaducts and bridges to 8 lanes from Alabang to Sta. Rosa and 6 lanes in Calamba (I can only imagine how they must feel when they see those two new lanes closed off with PNCC orange cones during peak times.)

They have already begun construction on the 7.5 kilometer stretch from Calamba to Sto. Tomas, Batangas, that will link up directly to the STAR tollway giving 60% of Luzon’s trade direct access to Batangas Port, and are working on the 50 kilometer extension to Lucena. The ripple effect will include new residential communities and commercial development down south and ease the horrible congestion of Metro Manila. Not bad for their first three years.

David explains that the 29 kilometer stretch from Alabang to Calamba will be one of the best in the whole of Asia, offering a state-of-the-art CCTV system without a single blind spot, contact-less toll cards, an electronic toll collection system that would allow the Electronic tag holders to pass through the toll at up to 60 km/h and an optical curtain that scans the entire car to determine what class it is as well as to prevent overloading.

While we may have to wait until April to see if MATES can deliver exactly as advertised, we can only go on the example of the Tollways Management Corporation’s take over of the North, where motorists have seen a world of improvement in travel time, safety, security and efficiency. It would be a struggle to find a commuting soul out there that would swap the 2 peso per kilometer toll fee for the nightmare that was once passed off as a road. And while there may be one or two readers that don’t agree with me, not even a TRO can stop what I’m saying from being right.

bluesgnt30
December 29th, 2009, 02:59 AM
Talagang nagtayo na ang MTD ng headquarters nila sa SLEX.. Ibig sabihin ba nito eh matagal ang contract nila?

absinthe_888
December 29th, 2009, 05:21 AM
Talagang nagtayo na ang MTD ng headquarters nila sa SLEX.. Ibig sabihin ba nito eh matagal ang contract nila?

MTD would operate and collect toll fees until 2036.


South Luzon Stalemate (http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=535098&publicationSubCategoryId=72)
BACKSEAT DRIVER By James Deakin (The Philippine Star) Updated December 23, 2009 12:00 AM

Manila Toll Expressway Systems (MATES), the legal owners of the SLEX franchise until 2036.

balay_1
December 29th, 2009, 11:06 AM
Fresh news about SLEX.

Tollway takeover in 2010 (http://www.manilastandardtoday.com/insideMetro.htm?f=2009/december/29/metro3.isx&d=/2009/december/29)

Transfer of control over South Luzon Expressway to Manila Toll Expressway Systems Inc. has been moved to February next year, said a top official.

In a phone interview on Monday, MATES president Isaac David told Standard Today after a hearing before the Pasig City Regional Trial Court that the status quo has been extended.

Through a Toll Operation Certificate dated Nov. 27, regulators granted MATES the authority to use the SLEX facilities now owned by the government.

A temporary restraining order against immediate transfer of control was obtained by present operator Philippine National Construction Corp. effective until 1 p.m. Dec. 17.

The court requested that a status quo be maintained to avoid unforeseen violence during the takeover.

David said PNCC expressed willingness to hand over to MATES the control of the tollway.

“They requested for a one-month transition period so that PNCC employees can prepare for the takeover,” he said.

PNCC has more than 500 employees that maintain the SLEX and man its toll stations from Alabang to Sta. Rosa.

David assured PNCC employees that MATES will provide P110 million for the retrenchment of all PNCC employees and added that PNCC employees could still apply for jobs with the new management.

According to him, around 1,000 to 1,500 employees will be hired once control was transferred to MATES. This include 24/7 toll operators and construction workers for the extension of SLEX from Sta. Rosa, Laguna, to Lucena.

David also confirmed the extension from Sta. Rosa, Laguna, to Lucena this year, with an allocated budget of P10 billion.

“Two lanes, one on each side, will be constructed plus the shoulders on both sides as planned.

“This will be widened depending on the availability of the right of way,” David said, adding that the project would cover 30 months.

MATES is 40-percent owned by PNCC with 60 percent shared equally by local firm Alloy Manila Expressway Inc. and the Malaysian firm subsidiary MTD Manila Expressways Inc.:banana:

This news is good. For me, as the saying goes, "It is better to be late (delayed) than never".
Ok lang na medyo matatagalan iyan kasi alam niyo naman sa Pilipinas, red tape at corruption, kaysa sa naman hindi mapunta sa private sector ang tollway.

bluesgnt30
December 29th, 2009, 11:09 AM
This is great.. SLEX will have two extensions.. STAR of Batangas being the one, and Lucena, Quezon. :banana::banana:

GO CALABARZON!

balay_1
December 29th, 2009, 11:26 AM
Sana matuloy at hindi hanggang vision na lang.

SLTC to spend another P4B on SLEx (http://business.inquirer.net/money/topstories/view/20091227-244212/SLTC-to-spend-another-P4B-on-SLEx)

By Paolo Montecillo
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 20:21:00 12/27/2009

MANILA, Philippines--SOUTH Luzon Tollways Corp. (SLTC), the Malaysian-backed company which rehabilitated South Luzon Expressway (SLEx), may spend another P4 billion to widen the highway it just finished building amid clamor from property developers who expect heavy traffic in the area.

SLTC president Isaac David said with over 7,000 hectares of idle land being turned into residential, commercial and industrial hotspots, the area south of Metro Manila was poised to become the country’s next growth area.

“Based on very recent information we received from the property developers, in three to four years time, the existing roads will need an expansion on both sides,” David said in a recent interview.

“These companies are building very fast and they are anticipating a large increase in traffic in the area,” he added.

Among the property firms with projects in the area are Ayala Land, Inc., Manny Villar’s Crown Asia, Lucio Tan’s Eton Properties, Inc., Globe Asiatique Realty Holdings Corp. and Greenfield Development Corp.

“They are developing about 7,000 hectares in Southern Luzon—that’s an area larger than the city of Manila,” David said.

He said this will mean expanding the 30-kilometer, four-lane highway by another lane on each of its sides, which would cost about P3 to P4 billion.

This will bring SLTC’s investment in SLEx to about $16 billion.

With the Metro Manila market nearing its saturation point, property developers have decided to put up projects in surrounding areas which can serve as an alternative for families and businesses looking for a new place to reside in.

About a third of the country’s gross domestic product originates from the National Capital Region and the areas near it.

SLTC is a joint venture between Malaysian firm MTD Capital Berhad, which owns 80 percent, and state-run Philippine National Construction Corp. (PNCC), which holds the remainder of the shares.


Ang pwede pang i-widen ay yung Sta. Rosa-Calamba portion from 3 lanes to 4 lanes on both sides. Yung Alabang-Sta.Rosa portion na 4 lanes ngayon, tingin ko imposible pang mai- widen yun.

bluesgnt30
December 29th, 2009, 11:32 AM
^^Sana yung sa link na lang ang pagandahin nila.. Tsaka dun sa laging may traffic build up area.

absinthe_888
December 29th, 2009, 04:18 PM
Fresh news about SLEX.

Tollway takeover in 2010 (http://www.manilastandardtoday.com/insideMetro.htm?f=2009/december/29/metro3.isx&d=/2009/december/29)

Transfer of control over South Luzon Expressway to Manila Toll Expressway Systems Inc. has been moved to February next year, said a top official.

PNCC has more than 500 employees that maintain the SLEX and man its toll stations from Alabang to Sta. Rosa.

So who's in charge of collecting toll fees from Cabuyao to Calamba?

According to him, around 1,000 to 1,500 employees will be hired once control was transferred to MATES. This include 24/7 toll operators and construction workers for the extension of SLEX from Sta. Rosa, Laguna, to Lucena.

I though SLEX ends in Calamba? :nuts:

David also confirmed the extension from Sta. Rosa, Laguna, to Lucena this year, with an allocated budget of P10 billion.

Wooooshuuuuuu...Talaga lang ha.

Sana matuloy at hindi hanggang vision na lang.

SLTC to spend another P4B on SLEx (http://business.inquirer.net/money/topstories/view/20091227-244212/SLTC-to-spend-another-P4B-on-SLEx)

He said this will mean expanding the 30-kilometer, four-lane highway by another lane on each of its sides, which would cost about P3 to P4 billion.

This will bring SLTC’s investment in SLEx to about $16 billion.

$ 16 Billion??? More like P 16 Billion pesos! :bash:

dewlin07
December 29th, 2009, 04:35 PM
Agree. Corruption cripples a nation's system and it affects the Philippines' image for the investors.

Skyway will be finished on time soon. Delayed SLEX will be finished soon. (probably April 2010):)

PNCC lang talaga ang nagpabagal sa construction ng SLEX dahil sa pag-expire ng franchise nito. Kaya ayun, di muna naglagay ng pera ang MTD. Pati yung toll booths construction hinaharang ng PNCC para di muna maka-collect yung MATES. Ayaw lang pakawalan ng PNCC yung SLEX kasi malaki kita nito sa toll. Sa dami ba naman ng dumadaan sa SLEX.:lol:

For the next president: sana matigil na ang mga corruption sa mga government agencies, departments. at GOCCs.:)


oo nga... Matigil na ang corruption!:nuts:

fall_17
December 29th, 2009, 04:52 PM
oo nga... Matigil na ang corruption!:nuts:



Napasama pa tuloy sa SLEX ang pamumuno ng PNCC,,, sila-sila nalang nag-nanakawan, di lang nagpabagal ng construction, may corruption pa..:bash::nuts:

bluesgnt30
December 30th, 2009, 01:51 AM
So next year will be the start of the construction of SLEx extension to lucena?

fall_17
December 30th, 2009, 06:01 AM
So next year will be the start of the construction of SLEx extension to lucena?



Yup!! ayon sa management tuloy na tuloy na ang construction ng SLEX going to lucena...


Happy New Year



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By Fall_17

bluesgnt30
December 30th, 2009, 06:49 AM
^^san kaya yung exact location nung extension to lucena? dun ba yun sa may Slex-star Interchange sa Sto. Tomas?

anonymous_filipino
December 30th, 2009, 01:41 PM
Just passed by SLEx yesterday. Roadworks are finished, the lampposts are not yet lighted, but only the toll barriers are needed to be completed for it to become fully operational. MTD Capital Berhad, being the second largest tollway operator in Malaysia, has the liquid assets to finish the entire SLEx project including the Sto. Tomas-Lucena segment (TR4). The only thing delaying the completion of the TR2 and TR3 packages is the refusal of PNCC to infused some capital into the project.

bluesgnt30
December 30th, 2009, 03:03 PM
^^Good. I'm wondering what's the reason of PNCC behind this. Are they planning to manipulate the budget before transferring it to MTD?

anonymous_filipino
December 30th, 2009, 03:43 PM
A simple answer to your question: Corruption.

absinthe_888
December 30th, 2009, 04:57 PM
^^ Nailaw na mga streetlights sa MTD office.

Ayaw pa talaga siguro ng PNCC na matapos SLEX gawa pag tapos na, no choice but to turn over to MTD na talaga...

bluesgnt30
December 31st, 2009, 12:24 AM
^^It means the MTD is really ready to take over.

btw, I saw this tollbooth at Saimsim (based on the pic) is this a new interchange?

fall_17
December 31st, 2009, 05:53 AM
^^san kaya yung exact location nung extension to lucena? dun ba yun sa may Slex-star Interchange sa Sto. Tomas?



Dun po sa mismong SLEX-STAR Link ang gagawing interchange ng Slex extension.



Happy New Year
By Fall_17

bluesgnt30
December 31st, 2009, 09:39 AM
^^Ok thanks. Sa Sto. Tomas ang interchange ^_^

fall_17
December 31st, 2009, 09:51 AM
^^Ok thanks. Sa Sto. Tomas ang interchange ^_^


No, di po sa Sto. Tomas Interchange, Before Sto. Tomas Exit ang gagawin na intercahange siguro 1 or 2 Km ang layo ng exit..




Happy New Year
By Fall_17

metrosuburban
December 31st, 2009, 01:00 PM
A simple answer to your question: Corruption.

kasamang nabubulok sa PNCC ang mga kabuktutan ng mga oficiales dyan, at ang dilapidated at nabubulok den nilang office sa EDSA.. Eww :bash:

absinthe_888
December 31st, 2009, 06:13 PM
One wish for SLEX this 2k10:

Sana naman...MATAPOS na to this year. No more extensions.

bluesgnt30
January 1st, 2010, 03:32 AM
No, di po sa Sto. Tomas Interchange, Before Sto. Tomas Exit ang gagawin na intercahange siguro 1 or 2 Km ang layo ng exit..




Happy New Year
By Fall_17

ok thanks:) Siguro malapit na sa boundary ng Batangas at Laguna yun, based sa Wikimapia, ganito yung magiging style nya, though I'm not sure kung tama yung nakasketch dito. http://www.wikimapia.org/#lat=14.1360138&lon=121.1484933&z=16&l=0&m=b
http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs173.snc3/20079_1317638782161_1266491498_30899069_1233635_n.jpg

ryan12
January 1st, 2010, 04:26 AM
kasamang nabubulok sa PNCC ang mga kabuktutan ng mga oficiales dyan, at ang dilapidated at nabubulok den nilang office sa EDSA.. Eww :bash:

Happy New Year !!!
I dont have any information on how PNCC is being run by corrupt "government officials"(PNCC is a government controlled co. right?) nor how its employees behave until one of my relatives has been successfully hired by MATES(the co. that will manage the SLEX) recently.
She told that me that most PNCC employees live luxuriously thats why they cant afford to turn over the SLEX immediately.According to my relative,some PNCC employees have many illegal activities there.im afraid im not going to post it here.
We,people from the South always suffers the most every single day there is a delay of construction at the SLEX.Ironically,PNCC people is benifitted by that.Every seconds of delay means a delay of turn over of operation and a delay of turn over means additional collection for PNCC!
The PNCC is the main cause of this delays.They are so very uncooperative according to some MATES officials.
You do the math how much the PNCC earned more since their decade old controll of the SLEX was expired last April 2007.At present they are not the legal operator of SLEX if im not mistaken.It seems this people were not yet ready to give up thier source of fraudaulent income which they used to have decades ago upto the present.
You can search many articles about this and some of their apparent abuses and their reluctancy to turn over operation.Here is one:
http://www.philstar.com/ArticlePrinterFriendly.aspx?articleId=535098


I am raised in the Bicol region,The TR4,(the extension of SLEX to LUCENA)is a very big news for me and for all the travellers down south(VISAYANS/MIANDANAOANS) because it will greatly reduce the travel time by a significant figure.Hope this project will prosper !!!

nov28
January 1st, 2010, 06:00 AM
Happy New Year po sa lahat!!!!!!

bluesgnt30
thanks po sa info lalo na sa map, na trace ko po dito un dadaanan nang slex extension, dadaan po pala sya sa San Pablo at malapit pa sa SM San Pablo ang exit. sana tuloy tuloy na tong project na to at sana matapos na agad, malaking tulong to sa economic improvement and development nang San Pablo at iba pang bayan sa Laguna at Quezon. mas mabilis ang pag travel papunta Manila lalo na sa airport....t.y. po

fall_17
January 1st, 2010, 06:17 AM
kasamang nabubulok sa PNCC ang mga kabuktutan ng mga oficiales dyan, at ang dilapidated at nabubulok den nilang office sa EDSA.. Eww :bash:



Hahahaha!!! tama lahat sinabi mo, lahat sila nabubulok:lol::lol::nuts:

kelan uli sila magiging sariwa sa publiko???:lol::bash::nuts:

fall_17
January 1st, 2010, 06:20 AM
ok thanks:) Siguro malapit na sa boundary ng Batangas at Laguna yun, based sa Wikimapia, ganito yung magiging style nya, though I'm not sure kung tama yung nakasketch dito. http://www.wikimapia.org/#lat=14.1360138&lon=121.1484933&z=16&l=0&m=b
http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs173.snc3/20079_1317638782161_1266491498_30899069_1233635_n.jpg


Shure naman diyan dadaan ang link pero I'm not shure na kung exact ba ang Interchange na naka-sketch jan, ako kasi nag edit niyan..^^

bluesgnt30
January 1st, 2010, 10:08 AM
^^Nice sketch. Perhaps this will be the exact location of the interchange.

ryan12
January 1st, 2010, 01:15 PM
HAPPY NEW YEAR !!!

Retro
January 5th, 2010, 03:31 AM
Toll VAT deferred by Cabinet
BusinessWorld Online - January 5, 2010

MOTORISTS WILL BE SPARED from higher toll fees, at least for now, as Malacańang has deferred a revenue-generating scheme seeking to impose the value-added tax (VAT) on tollway operators.

The plan, deferred for the second time following a similar decision in 2005, will pose a burden to motorists who will have to absorb the tax, a Palace official yesterday said.

"Toll operators will only pass it on to motorists," Cabinet Secretary Silvestre H. Bello III said in a telephone interview.

He said the proposal to defer the VAT was approved in a Cabinet meeting in Baguio last week.

Marina C. de Guzman, the chief of staff of Tax Commissioner Joel L. Tan-Torres, said they would be meeting with Finance and Transportation department officials to discuss the matter.

"We were told that it [the imposition of VAT] has been deferred. We have to meet with the officials of the Department of Finance and the Department of Transportation [and Communications] to study this," she said in Filipino.

Other officials of the Bureau of Internal Revenue (BIR), the agency that is the primary proponent of the scheme, were not immediately available for comment.

Toll Regulatory Board (TRB) spokesperson Julius G. Corpuz, in a separate interview, said the VAT "could be subject to further discussions between the TRB, the (BIR) and possibly the toll operators."

Ma. Theresa T. Defensor, president of the Philippine National Construction Corp. (PNCC) which currently operates the South Luzon Expressway (SLEx), admitted that implementation of the proposal would result in higher tolls.

"It’s really the motorists who would be affected. The effect on us is indirect only because the tendency of motorists when the prices are higher is to use your roads less," she said.

Representatives of Manila North Tollways Corp. (MNTC), operator of the North Luzon Expressway (NLEx) and interim operator of the Subic-Clark-Tarlac Expressway (SCTEx), said the firm would await the results of discussions.

"We will await clarification from the TRB and BIR and wait for the discussions regarding the issue," MNTC vice-president for corporate communication Marlene Ochoa said.

Section 108 of the Tax Code provides that a 10% VAT be levied on the sale or exchange of services, including the use or lease of property.

"The phrase ’sale or exchange of services’ means the performance of all kinds of services in the Philippines for others for a fee, remuneration or consideration, including... services of franchise grantees of electric utilities, telephone and telegraph, radio and television broadcasting and all other franchise grantees except those under Sec. 119 of this Code," the law read.

Section 119 imposes a franchise tax on radio and/or television broadcasting companies whose annual gross receipts of the preceding year do not exceed P10 million, as well as gas and water utilities.

These provisions became the BIR’s basis in releasing, in 2005, Revenue Memorandum Circular (RMC) 52 which imposed a 10% VAT on tolls, which were supposed to be increased in November 1 of that year.

The TRB, however, ordered the deferment of the rate hikes pending the determination of whether toll operators can charge the tax.

Nothing has happened ever since until the tax bureau last December 21 released RMC 72-2009, which reiterated the validity of RMC 52.

"It is hereby reiterated that the sale of services of franchise grantees except those excluded under the above-quoted Sec. 119 of the Tax Code is subject to VAT," the circular states.

"Accordingly, the services being rendered by the Tollway Operators which do not fall under the exceptions specified under Section 119 of the Tax Code (as amended) are subject to VAT," the order adds.

Bahay_Kubo
January 5th, 2010, 10:59 AM
on my way back to Manila from Laguna, where i spent the New Year holiday, i could not help but, again, notice the inconsistent typefaces that were used on signs along the SLEX. kung Clearview, Clearview na lang ang gamitin. kung Highway Gothic, Highway Gothic na lang. :nuts:

masta609
January 5th, 2010, 11:08 AM
^^ from posted article by retro.. Gov't SHOULD NOT put taxes on toll fees... Come on! These are public properties! Just raise taxes on something luxurious and sinful... :no:

SamwiseGamgee
January 6th, 2010, 11:18 AM
Who among us did the SLEX wiki page? There are some discrepancies there. I'd be happy to point out in a PM. :)

Sky Harbor
January 6th, 2010, 11:59 AM
^^ MC did much of the work there. If you spot discrepancies, be bold and correct it yourself. We can always use more Wikipedians. :D

NicknameForLife
January 7th, 2010, 09:41 AM
^^ maka sali ng Wiki.. hehe

wrong timing ang increase nila.. dpat pagkatapos na ng ginagawa sa SLEX...

ano na ba ang mga exit sa SLEX pag natapos ang TR-3??

1. Ayala Greenfield..
2. Saimsim (?)
3. STAR interchange
ano pa wla ako maisip O_o?

tagal na d nagvivisit eh.. kaaduwa 3 months na!!

Mithril Cloud
January 7th, 2010, 07:07 PM
Who among us did the SLEX wiki page? There are some discrepancies there. I'd be happy to point out in a PM. :)

I only cleaned it a bit last year. A lot of edits have been made since then. I agree that there are a lot of discrepancies, but I don't have the time nor the resources to revamp it yet.

bluesgnt30
January 9th, 2010, 01:26 AM
If anyone of us know a person in the MTD/SLTC, I think you should ask them to contribute in giving an accurate and reliable information about the SLEX and its current construction.

absinthe_888
January 10th, 2010, 04:58 AM
The San Juan bridge being constructed by FSI on going and siguro naman by March completed na. 25 % nung tulay meh cemented barriers na at concreted roadways nadin. Yung the rest curing period pa gawa meh mga tarpaulin na nakalatag. Yung girder launcher nila wala na sa construction site. Inaayos na ng MTD yung daan approaching the bridge so detour ulit. Bagalan ang takbo lalo na sa gabi para maiwasan ang mga concrete barrier.

bluesgnt30
January 10th, 2010, 05:38 AM
^^How about the link? any update?

absinthe_888
January 10th, 2010, 05:40 AM
^^ Nakita ko lang kahapon nung dumaan ako.

bluesgnt30
January 10th, 2010, 06:49 AM
Mukhang napakabagal ng construction.. :bash: btw, papalaparin din ba yung San Juan viaduct? lalagyan ba yun ng tulay sa gitna?

absinthe_888
January 10th, 2010, 07:12 AM
^^ Yun na nga po ang ginagamit ng Nortbound vehicles, yung tulay sa gitna. Pag natapos lahat, 3 lanes both directions na ang San Juan bridge.

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EDIT:

Nakita ko in detail yung San Juan bridge kanina. Basically, tapos na pala sha. Kalahati nang tulay tapos na. Yung other half, curing na lang ng road deck at installation ng barriers.

Bahay_Kubo
January 10th, 2010, 04:59 PM
ano na palang balita sa Santo Tomas-Lucena extension plans ng SLEX? may mga nakikita akong campaign posters ng ilang pulitiko sa San Pablo (notably, by ex-Congressman Boy Aquino) opposing the extension of the SLEX towards Lucena, saying that the said extension project would destroy the Banahaw-San Cristobal watershed area.

hmmmm... if i know, gusto lang ng mga gunggong na pulitiko sa San Pablo na sa lupa nila padaanin yung SLEX extension. :nuts:

absinthe_888
January 10th, 2010, 05:27 PM
^^ Shh...magagalit si Boss Lucy nan :nuts:

Kitang kita naman talaga ang hidden agenda nitong si Boy Aquino.

Bahay_Kubo
January 10th, 2010, 05:35 PM
^^ yung San Pablo kasi ang nakikita kong obstacle sa extension ng SLEX from Santo Tomas to Lucena. lagi na lang kasing umeepal yung mga pulitiko sa bayan na yun eh wala naman silang naitutulong na matino. :nuts:

fall_17
January 11th, 2010, 05:14 AM
Mukhang napakabagal ng construction.. :bash: btw, papalaparin din ba yung San Juan viaduct? lalagyan ba yun ng tulay sa gitna?


dapat nga dun magkahiwalay ang north at south bound then wala ng tulay sa gitna para pantay tingnan.:nuts:

Lucentino
January 11th, 2010, 06:41 AM
^^ Shh...magagalit si Boss Lucy nan :nuts:

Kitang kita naman talaga ang hidden agenda nitong si Boy Aquino.

^^ yung San Pablo kasi ang nakikita kong obstacle sa extension ng SLEX from Santo Tomas to Lucena. lagi na lang kasing umeepal yung mga pulitiko sa bayan na yun eh wala naman silang naitutulong na matino. :nuts:

Usapang pulitika: Hindi na bago sa akin ang mga pulitikong tulad ng sa Sn. Pablo. Sa Quezon marami ring ganyang mga kontrapelo sa proyektong makikinabang ang karamihan. Kaya nga kailangan sa proyektong TR4 ay political-will...

Usapang TR4: Magbibigay na lang ako ng reaksyon ukol dito kapag umupo na ang bagong administrasyon, at magtalaga ng pinuno ng NEDA. Sa ngayon kasi, anu mang press release sa TR4 ay siguradong laway at hangin lang...

:)

bluesgnt30
January 11th, 2010, 09:49 AM
^^ I agree. Sinasabik lang nila ang mga tao. Sa link pa nga lang hirap na hirap na sila, eh lalo na siguro sa TR4.

balay_1
January 11th, 2010, 10:02 AM
PNCC, ibigay ninyo na ang 20 percent. Dami pang arte eh! Anyways, kudos to Mr. MVP for his vision na ma-connect ang North and South Expressways.

Metro Pacific eyes PNCC stake in South Luzon Tollways (http://www.gmanews.tv/story/181257/metro-pacific-eyes-pncc-stake-in-south-luzon-tollways)
01/11/2010

Metro Pacific Tollways Corp. has initiated talks with the state-led Philippine National Construction Corp. (PNCC) to buy the latter’s stake in the joint venture company that rehabilitated the tollway connecting Metro Manila to provinces in Southern Luzon.

In an interview, Metro Pacific Tollways President Ramoncito S. Fernandez said the company has started discussions with the PNCC for its 20-percent stake in the South Luzon Tollways Corp.

“We have already expressed interest in their stake and we are anxious to enter the south. [The PNCC] knows Metro Pacific’s plan to connect the North and the South and have seamless traffic," Fernandez said.

PNCC President Ma. Theresa T. Defensor confirmed that PNCC had received an unsolicited offer from the group of businessman Manuel V. Pangilinan.

Defensor, however, said she must first offer the PNCC’s 20-percent stake to Malaysian partner MTD Capital Berhad, which holds the right to buy the shares first and was the sole funder of the rehabilitation of the South Luzon Expressway (SLEx).

MTD Capital owns 80 percent of the South Luzon Tollways and has a 30-percent stake in the Manila Toll Expressway System, Inc., which holds of the contract to operate the SLEx after the rehabilitation of the highway.

Defensor also said the sale of the PNCC’s 20-percent stake in the South Luzon Tollways would come in a package, where the buyer must also buy the PNCC’s 40-percent stake in the Manila Toll Expressway. (Dami pang palusot.:bash:)

“If and when the Malaysians say that they are not interested and if the Department of Finance said the PNCC has to bid out our stake, then we have to bid it out. But as of now, Metro Pacific is the only one that has signified its interest," Defensor said.

In an interview, South Luzon Tollways and the Manila Toll Expressway President Isaac S. David said the standing instruction of MTD Capital is to buy the stake of its partner if it has the money.

“We do not know yet what price the PNCC will be selling it so at the moment, I cannot say if we will buy the government’s stake," David said.

The government-controlled firm recently had a falling out with its Malaysian partner after the former refused to hand over the operations of the tollway to the Manila Tollway Expressway.

The case has reached a Pasig court, which is expected to rule on the case next month.

David said his group has no problem working with anyone as long as the PNCC sells its shares legally.

The deal, if consummated, would fulfill Pangilinan’s goal to operate a network of tollways.

Metro Pacific Tollways is a major shareholder of the North Luzon Expressway and holds a minor interest in the Skyway 2 project, an elevated expressway that will connect Bicutan in Taguig to Alabang, Muntinlupa.

This means that the Pangilinan group would be able to operate the two main entry and exit points north and south of the Philippine capital.

The PNCC plans to use the money from the sale to build the road that will connect the SLEx near the Susana Heights interchange to the southern end of the Daang Hari road in Cavite; help the government with its budget deficit; and pay part of its P5-billion debt to the government.

“We hope to sell our stake this quarter," Defensor said.

The South Luzon Tollways holds the right to rehabilitate, expand, operate and maintain the SLEx under a concession obtained in 2006.

The project has three components — the rehabilitation and widening of the 1.2-kilometer Alabang Viaduct, which was completed in 2007; the rehabilitation and widening of the 27.3-km expressway linking Alabang to Calamba in Laguna province; and the construction of a 7.6-km extension from Calamba to Sto. Tomas in Batangas province.

The Malaysian-led tollway firm is also studying to extend the road from Sto. Tomas in Batangas province all the way to Lucena in Quezon province.

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About sa TR4, matutuloy na iyan. Hindi na kasi PNCC ang operator ng SLEX kundi SLTC na. Kaya wala nang government company na "magpapadelay" dito. To Sir Lucy, sa future, may LUCENA CITY EXIT na.:banana::banana:

bluesgnt30
January 11th, 2010, 10:12 AM
Eh di ibigay na sa Metro Pacific. Maganda ang plano ng private company na to. Otherwise, linking the North and South expressways would benefit its people and will also help in economic performance.

Sana ang gawing 2 na lang ang terminus ng SLEX - ang Lucena at STAR sa Batangas.. Dapat kasi yung STAR hindi na sa STC.

Lucentino
January 11th, 2010, 10:51 AM
^^ I agree. Sinasabik lang nila ang mga tao. Sa link pa nga lang hirap na hirap na sila, eh lalo na siguro sa TR4.

Pag nanalong presidente taga-Calabarzon (i.e. Ate Vi?, @888, @balay_1, etc.) walang hirap sa pagpapatupad ng mga proyekto sa rehiyong ito... pati yung Lucena-Batangas Coastal Road walang 1 year malamang tapos yun :lol:



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About sa TR4, matutuloy na iyan. Hindi na kasi PNCC ang operator ng SLEX kundi SLTC na. Kaya wala nang government company na "magpapadelay" dito. To Sir Lucy, sa future, may LUCENA CITY EXIT na.:banana::banana:

May existing Lucena Exit na sa SLEx ngayon, paglabas mo nga lang e Brgy. Turbina (para kang na teleport)... :nuts:

bluesgnt30
January 11th, 2010, 11:04 AM
Good luck na lang dito :lol: Naku dapat magtuloytuloy na ang unlad ng CALABARZON. Rizal na lang ata ang hindi mahahagip ng SLEX eh.

fall_17
January 11th, 2010, 02:36 PM
Good luck na lang dito :lol: Naku dapat magtuloytuloy na ang unlad ng CALABARZON. Rizal na lang ata ang hindi mahahagip ng SLEX eh.

Hindi na ako nagtataka kung bakit maunlad ang calabarzon. Sayang napipigilan ang pag-unlad nito dahil sa di matapos-tapos na link at tr4..:bash:

Hmmmm...:lol:


Impossible na ata ma-extend ang SLEX sa Rizal province!


Remember! dun dadaan ang link ng c-6 road....:nuts:

balay_1
January 12th, 2010, 01:24 AM
IMHO, SLEX is the most vital road in the CALABARZON region. This infrastructure did helped in making CALABARZON a progressive region of our country. It runs along Laguna, Cavite, Batangas (through the link), and Quezon (in the future). With its recent rehabilitation and the nearing completion of the link to STAR and also its future extension up to Lucena, this will definitely improve the economic aspect of the people living in these provinces. With the likely entry of MPIC, the operator of NLEX, SLEX will become world class and remove the negative aspects associated with the expressway. Also, the turnover to SLTC, a private company, is a good one.

This 2010, things will become good and bright for SLEX.

Sa Rizal, magkakaroon ito ng C6 Expressway. Yun nga lang matagal pa iyon. Magkakaroon naman ng exit ang C6 Expressway na magco-connect sa SLEx sa may Bicutan. Mayroon din namang C5 Exit ang SLEX papuntang Rizal kaya parang konektado na rin ang probinsyang ito.

balay_1
January 12th, 2010, 01:26 AM
Pag nanalong presidente taga-Calabarzon (i.e. Ate Vi?, @888, @balay_1, etc.) walang hirap sa pagpapatupad ng mga proyekto sa rehiyong ito... pati yung Lucena-Batangas Coastal Road walang 1 year malamang tapos yun :lol:




May existing Lucena Exit na sa SLEx ngayon, paglabas mo nga lang e Brgy. Turbina (para kang na teleport)... :nuts:

Yes, that's true but mas maganda kung talagang may sariling Lucena City Exit ang Lucena para talagang nasa Quezon ka.:cheers:

bluesgnt30
January 12th, 2010, 01:28 AM
Yes, that's true but mas maganda kung talagang may sariling Lucena City Exit ang Lucena para talagang nasa Quezon ka.:cheers:

Sa Sto. Tomas ba, ilang exit ang ilalagay?

balay_1
January 12th, 2010, 01:41 AM
^Alam ko Saimsim Exit ang bagong exit ng SLEX na malapit sa Sto. Tomas. Kung isasama ang Sto. Tomas Exit, bale 2 ang exit sa Sto. Tomas. Saimsim at Sto. Tomas Exits.

wheel of steel
January 12th, 2010, 01:58 AM
^Alam ko Saimsim Exit ang bagong exit ng SLEX na malapit sa Sto. Tomas. Kung isasama ang Sto. Tomas Exit, bale 2 ang exit sa Sto. Tomas. Saimsim at Sto. Tomas Exits.

So by April this year, all buses from the South will have their entry and exit at Saimsim. Wow! This will be a lot more convenient.. Yeahhh! Ramdam ang kaunlaran. :banana:

bluesgnt30
January 12th, 2010, 02:01 AM
So by April this year, all buses from the South will have their entry and exit at Saimsim. Wow! This will be a lot more convenient.. Yeahhh! Ramdam ang kaunlaran. :banana:

I hope so. But the route description for PUVs will depend on their management. Since they also have passengers from Calamba, I think they won't use the new exit.

^Alam ko Saimsim Exit ang bagong exit ng SLEX na malapit sa Sto. Tomas. Kung isasama ang Sto. Tomas Exit, bale 2 ang exit sa Sto. Tomas. Saimsim at Sto. Tomas Exits.

Sa Sto. Tomas ba ang Saimsim? Thought it's in Calamba? So the Star-Slex exit is the Sto. Tomas exit?

balay_1
January 12th, 2010, 02:07 AM
I hope so. But the route description for PUVs will depend on their management. Since they also have passengers from Calamba, I think they won't use the new exit.



Sa Sto. Tomas ba ang Saimsim? Thought it's in Calamba? So the Star-Slex exit is the Sto. Tomas exit?

Yeah, you are right. Saimsim is in Calamba pala. Yes, Sto. Tomas Exit is the exit of STAR-SLEX connection. Bale isa lang ang exit ng SLEX sa Sto. Tomas.

bluesgnt30
January 12th, 2010, 02:11 AM
Courtesy of Nicknameforlife

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/9954/slex3.jpg

What do you think about this? Is it possible that this would be the exact plan for Slex to Lucena?

absinthe_888
January 12th, 2010, 02:26 AM
May existing Lucena Exit na sa SLEx ngayon, paglabas mo nga lang e Brgy. Turbina (para kang na teleport)... :nuts:

Jumper? :nuts: Hindi lang Lucena Exit, hanggang Legaspi pa :nuts:

fall_17
January 12th, 2010, 04:51 AM
Yeah, you are right. Saimsim is in Calamba pala. Yes, Sto. Tomas Exit is the exit of STAR-SLEX connection. Bale isa lang ang exit ng SLEX sa Sto. Tomas.


2 ang magiging exit ng Sto. tomas, STAR Sto,tomas interchange then yung naka proposed na interchange ng SLEX extension.^^

bluesgnt30
January 12th, 2010, 04:56 AM
2 ang magiging exit ng Sto. tomas, STAR Sto,tomas interchange then yung naka proposed na interchange ng SLEX extension.^^

yung sinasabi mong Sto. TOmas Interchange, part parin ba yun ng SLEX o part na ng STAR? Bale may bukod na interchange ang SLEX para sa Sto. TOmas?

Yung SLex-Star Exit lang kasi yung alam ko na interchange sa Sto. Tomas.

absinthe_888
January 12th, 2010, 05:17 AM
2 ang magiging exit ng Sto. tomas, STAR Sto,tomas interchange then yung naka proposed na interchange ng SLEX extension.^^

Sir pwede nyo po ba ilagay sa google earth image to para ma visualize ng mga tao? salamat

bluesgnt30
January 12th, 2010, 05:20 AM
Siguro kung tuloy yang 2 interchanges na yan, mauuna muna ang SLex-Star exit, bago ang Sto. Tomas. Malapit na kasi sa Calamba ang Star eh, so yung Sto. Tomas exit, siguro mas malapit sa town proper.

fall_17
January 12th, 2010, 05:38 AM
yung sinasabi mong Sto. TOmas Interchange, part parin ba yun ng SLEX o part na ng STAR? Bale may bukod na interchange ang SLEX para sa Sto. TOmas?

Yung SLex-Star Exit lang kasi yung alam ko na interchange sa Sto. Tomas.


Sto. tomas interchange is part of STAR


Then SLEX-STAR exit ay bahagi ng SLEX at ng STAR kung saan yun ang nagsisilbi na exit ng SLEX Extension going to lucena.

Sir pwede nyo po ba ilagay sa google earth image to para ma visualize ng mga tao? salamat


Di napo kelangan sir, yung pinost ni Bluesgnt30 na terrain image, yun po ang exact na sinasabi ko.^^

bluesgnt30
January 12th, 2010, 05:46 AM
Sto. tomas interchange is part of STAR
Then SLEX-STAR exit ay bahagi ng SLEX at ng STAR kung saan yun ang nagsisilbi na exit ng SLEX Extension going to lucena.


Ok. Akala ko kasi 2 ang magiging exit sa Sto. Tomas :lol:Anyway, yung magiging Slex-Star exit, bale yung right side walang patutunguhan yun diba.

Refer to this image:
http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs173.snc3/20079_1317638782161_1266491498_30899069_1233635_n.jpg

fall_17
January 12th, 2010, 05:50 AM
Ok. Akala ko kasi 2 ang magiging exit sa Sto. Tomas :lol:Anyway, yung magiging Slex-Star exit, bale yung right side walang patutunguhan yun diba.

Refer to this image:
http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs173.snc3/20079_1317638782161_1266491498_30899069_1233635_n.jpg

Yup, tama ka.

nov28
January 12th, 2010, 07:15 AM
^^ yung San Pablo kasi ang nakikita kong obstacle sa extension ng SLEX from Santo Tomas to Lucena. lagi na lang kasing umeepal yung mga pulitiko sa bayan na yun eh wala naman silang naitutulong na matino. :nuts:

tama po kayo etong mga politiko dito mapansin lang nang mga tao gagamitin nila mga issues na kagaya nito... lalo namin sila hindi iboboto, kala mo maka kalikasan sila, hindi namin sila iboboto mga trapo sila.....sila ang dahilan kung bakit napagiwanan ang San Pablo.

ianlopez1115
January 12th, 2010, 08:05 AM
Boy Aquino did not oppose the SLEX extension. In fact, he supported it, though he wants it to pass through less forested areas in San Pablo (possibly in barangay San Gregorio). I know this since I'm his nephew.

NicknameForLife
January 12th, 2010, 09:34 AM
Courtesy of Nicknameforlife

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/9954/slex3.jpg

What do you think about this? Is it possible that this would be the exact plan for Slex to Lucena?

^^ napost ulit hehe.... pero d na mangyayari yan.. iba ang SLEX sa STAR.. iba ang nagpapanatili nito...

at ung contract ata ng STAR sa PNCC/DPWH ay 2039 (base sa ibang tao) kaya napaka-tagal pa! bago magkatotoo ito..

fall_17
January 12th, 2010, 01:17 PM
at ung contract ata ng STAR sa PNCC/DPWH ay 2039 (base sa ibang tao) kaya napaka-tagal pa! bago magkatotoo ito..[/QUOTE]



Asa kapa:badnews:

SamwiseGamgee
January 12th, 2010, 02:58 PM
^Alam ko Saimsim Exit ang bagong exit ng SLEX na malapit sa Sto. Tomas. Kung isasama ang Sto. Tomas Exit, bale 2 ang exit sa Sto. Tomas. Saimsim at Sto. Tomas Exits.

So by April this year, all buses from the South will have their entry and exit at Saimsim. Wow! This will be a lot more convenient.. Yeahhh! Ramdam ang kaunlaran. :banana:

I think the one in Saimsim, Calamba is not an exit but a toll plaza for the SLEX-STAR connection. It will be sandwiched by two exits - Calamba (SLEX) and the existing one in Sto. Tomas (STAR).

Goku_25
January 12th, 2010, 11:09 PM
PNCC pushes for early completion of SLEx (http://www.tempo.com.ph/news.php?aid=52597)

The Philippine National Construction Corporation (PNCC) urged Monday the company undertaking the rehabilitation and expansion of the South Luzon Expressway (SLEx) to finish with no more unnecessary delays this “long overdue” project.

“We at the PNCC are already becoming very impatient with the slow showing of the company incharge of the project, it’s a make or break for them, no more excuses,” said Maite Defensor, PNCC CEO and president.

MTD, a Malaysian company, is the firm tasked to undertake the rehabilitation and expansion project of SLEx. The project started in 2006 with expected delivery in 2008.

“It’s already 2010, and this SLEx project, which is one of the priority projects of the administration, remains far from being completed because of the apparent lack of professionalism among the undertakers,” said Defensor.

“We were all very excited to turn over the operations of SLEx to a private company, but how can we do that if they’re seemingly refusing to finish the project?” said Defensor.

A total of P8 billion has been earmarked for the project in a joint venture between PNCC and MTD. MATES is supposedly the nominee company that would take over the project once it has been completed.

The SLEx project should satisfy the expansion and paving of the highway, installation of a hi-tech toll collection system, installation of a state-of-the-art traffic control system, and proper training of staff and employees who would be manning the operations of SLEx after the PNCC turnover.

“This is one project the people, especially those situated in Southern Luzon, should already be enjoying,” Defensor said.

“Complete it once and for all. Our people don’t deserve this kind of delay.”

bluesgnt30
January 13th, 2010, 02:07 AM
I think the one in Saimsim, Calamba is not an exit but a toll plaza for the SLEX-STAR connection. It will be sandwiched by two exits - Calamba (SLEX) and the existing one in Sto. Tomas (STAR).

I think it's just an exit. Installing a new toll plaza would be awkward. As we all know, there's an existing toll plaza at Calamba.

s40
January 13th, 2010, 02:35 AM
PNCC pushes for early completion of SLEx (http://www.tempo.com.ph/news.php?aid=52597)

The Philippine National Construction Corporation (PNCC) urged Monday the company undertaking the rehabilitation and expansion of the South Luzon Expressway (SLEx) to finish with no more unnecessary delays this “long overdue” project.

“We at the PNCC are already becoming very impatient with the slow showing of the company incharge of the project, it’s a make or break for them, no more excuses,” said Maite Defensor, PNCC CEO and president.

MTD, a Malaysian company, is the firm tasked to undertake the rehabilitation and expansion project of SLEx. The project started in 2006 with expected delivery in 2008.

“It’s already 2010, and this SLEx project, which is one of the priority projects of the administration, remains far from being completed because of the apparent lack of professionalism among the undertakers,” said Defensor.

“We were all very excited to turn over the operations of SLEx to a private company, but how can we do that if they’re seemingly refusing to finish the project?” said Defensor.

A total of P8 billion has been earmarked for the project in a joint venture between PNCC and MTD. MATES is supposedly the nominee company that would take over the project once it has been completed.

The SLEx project should satisfy the expansion and paving of the highway, installation of a hi-tech toll collection system, installation of a state-of-the-art traffic control system, and proper training of staff and employees who would be manning the operations of SLEx after the PNCC turnover.

“This is one project the people, especially those situated in Southern Luzon, should already be enjoying,” Defensor said.

“Complete it once and for all. Our people don’t deserve this kind of delay.”

Nakow PR game na to -- ngayon yung Malaysian company na me kasalanan eh akala ko ba PNCC ang makupad at nag drag ng feet dito??? Sino talaga ang tama? sino ang tunay na baliw? :bash:

SamwiseGamgee
January 13th, 2010, 05:57 AM
I think it's just an exit. Installing a new toll plaza would be awkward. As we all know, there's an existing toll plaza at Calamba.

Well, I did not see exit ramps there (Saimsim), only toll plaza structures similar to the Calamba Toll Plaza structures. There are no toll booths yet, though.

A toll plaza there would not be awkward. In fact, it would be totally sensible, since after exiting the Calamba toll plaza, you would have a choice whether to access the SLEX-STAR connection or not. If not, you don't have to pass the Saimsim toll plaza, if you do, you would have to pass through it. Otherwise, you would be taking a free ride through it. Makes sense, right?

Evidence:

http://i50.tinypic.com/vsfced.jpg

Saimsim Toll Plaza cNov 2009

balay_1
January 13th, 2010, 06:15 AM
Nakow PR game na to -- ngayon yung Malaysian company na me kasalanan eh akala ko ba PNCC ang makupad at nag drag ng feet dito??? Sino talaga ang tama? sino ang tunay na baliw? :bash:

That news is not very important today. Matatapos na yung rehabilitation. Let us just wait for April 2010. Bull sh*t na lang ang mga news na iyan.:bash:

Alam mo, turuan lang ng turuan ang PNCC at yung MTD/SLTC about sa delay ng rehab ng SLEX. As ordinary citizens, we do not have any credible and reliable knowledge kung ano ang nagpa-delay sa rehab ng SLEX. Kung may mga forumers dito sa SSC na nagtatrabaho sa PNCC o sa may SLTC, pwede nilang mai-share ang inside business sa dalawang kumpanya.

We are tired of those negative associations for SLEX, ranging from delay, ugly placement of construction warnings and concrete barriers, monstrous traffic jams, undisciplined motorists, pati yung bagong design ng toll booths, e pangit daw, kulang na lang sabihin na pangit ang mga toll booth tellers ng SLEx.:bash:

fall_17
January 13th, 2010, 06:24 AM
That news is not very important today. Matatapos na yung rehabilitation. Let us just wait for April 2010. Bull sh*t na lang ang mga news na iyan.:bash:

Alam mo, turuan lang ng turuan ang PNCC at yung MTD/SLTC about sa delay ng rehab ng SLEX. As ordinary citizens, we do not have any credible and reliable knowledge kung ano ang nagpa-delay sa rehab ng SLEX. Kung may mga forumers dito sa SSC na nagtatrabaho sa PNCC o sa may SLTC, pwede nilang mai-share ang inside business sa dalawang kumpanya.

We are tired of those negative associations for SLEX, ranging from delay, ugly placement of construction warnings and concrete barriers, monstrous traffic jams, undisciplined motorists, pati yung bagong design ng toll booths, e pangit daw, kulang na lang sabihin na pangit ang mga toll booth tellers ng SLEx.:bash:




Parehas may tennga ang dalawang company.:nuts::lol: marami ng schedule ang na delay, e kelan pa kikilos ang SLTC, PNCC na iyan...:bash:Expect ku dun sa opisina ng PNCC at SLTC ga-bundok na mga schedule na di parin ina-aksyonan..:bash:

balay_1
January 13th, 2010, 06:28 AM
Parehas may tennga ang dalawang company.:nuts::lol: marami ng schedule ang na delay, e kelan pa kikilos ang SLTC, PNCC na iyan...:bash:Expect ku dun sa opisina ng PNCC at SLTC ga-bundok na mga schedule na di parin ina-aksyonan..:bash:

Kailangan sigurong ibuwag na ang PNCC at palitan ang mga company officials ng SLTC. Para bago at may dedikasyon sa trabaho.:cheers::nuts:

absinthe_888
January 13th, 2010, 06:33 AM
PNCC pushes for early completion of SLEx (http://www.tempo.com.ph/news.php?aid=52597)

“We at the PNCC are already becoming very impatient with the slow showing of the company incharge of the project, it’s a make or break for them, no more excuses,” said Maite Defensor, PNCC CEO and president.

Hmm, MTD says one thing, PNCC says the otherwise. Buck passing na naman. Galing talaga ng Pinoy sa ganito.

s40
January 13th, 2010, 06:36 AM
Hmm, MTD says one thing, PNCC says the otherwise. Buck passing na naman. Galing talaga ng Pinoy sa ganito.

Sa akin lang opinion - mas kapanipaniwala ang MTD versus PNCC.... walang track record ang PNCC para paniwalaan natin yang mga kumag na nakaupo diyan sa government agency na yan.... literal na bulok ang PNCC, hindi world class, walang improvement tayo nakita diyan sa lintek na SLEX for a long long time nuong sila namamahala diyan.... Having said that, i think MTD is more credible to believe.

:) Mas kapanipaniwala ang dila ng MTD kesa sa dilang satanas ng PNCC hehehe

fall_17
January 13th, 2010, 06:37 AM
Hmm, MTD says one thing, PNCC says the otherwise. Buck passing na naman. Galing talaga ng Pinoy sa ganito.

Sana baguhin ng pinoy ang ganyang kaugalian..:bash:

fall_17
January 13th, 2010, 06:39 AM
Kailangan sigurong ibuwag na ang PNCC at palitan ang mga company officials ng SLTC. Para bago at may dedikasyon sa trabaho.:cheers::nuts:

Di yung PNCC ang bubuwagin, ibig mo sabihin yung mga officials, para mabago lahat ng sistema..

absinthe_888
January 13th, 2010, 06:46 AM
Sa akin lang opinion - mas kapanipaniwala ang MTD versus PNCC.... walang track record ang PNCC para paniwalaan natin yang mga kumag na nakaupo diyan sa government agency na yan.... literal na bulok ang PNCC, hindi world class, walang improvement tayo nakita diyan sa lintek na SLEX for a long long time nuong sila namamahala diyan.... Having said that, i think MTD is more credible to believe.

:) Mas kapanipaniwala ang dila ng MTD kesa sa dilang satanas ng PNCC hehehe

Actually meh ginagawa naman si Maite Defensor sa PNCC...naglalagay ng mga gingantic tarpaulins ng face nya kasama sa PGMA sa mga interchange ng SLEX saying

"South Luzon Expressway - Isang Daan Tungo sa Kaunlaran"

s40
January 13th, 2010, 06:51 AM
yeah mga Defensor talaga kampon ni GMA............ Kampon.....................buwahahaha malamang meron din na siphon na pera mga yan sa demontres na PNCC revenues

fall_17
January 13th, 2010, 06:57 AM
Actually meh ginagawa naman si Maite Defensor sa PNCC...naglalagay ng mga gingantic tarpaulins ng face nya kasama sa PGMA sa mga interchange ng SLEX saying

"South Luzon Expressway - Isang Daan Tungo sa Kaunlaran"

Mabuti nga tinanggal na mga billboard nyan sa SLEX. Di nakakatulong sa mga motorista, baka ma-accident pa sila sa pagmumukha ni gloria na nakalagay dun..:lol::lol:

absinthe_888
January 13th, 2010, 07:01 AM
Mabuti nga tinanggal na mga billboard nyan sa SLEX. Di nakakatulong sa mga motorista, baka ma-accident pa sila sa pagmumukha ni gloria na nakalagay dun..:lol::lol:

Meron pa din Sir. Pagpasok mo palang sa SLEX galing Calamba, kita mo na agad ang photoshopped face ni Maite Defensor :nuts:

fall_17
January 13th, 2010, 07:04 AM
Meron pa din Sir. Pagpasok mo palang sa SLEX galing Calamba, kita mo na agad ang photoshopped face ni Maite Defensor :nuts:

hindi yun ok sakin, dapat pati yon tinatanggal wala siya naitulong sa progressive ng SLEX.:bash::nuts:

bluesgnt30
January 13th, 2010, 07:14 AM
Nakakaasar itong si Maite! ang bilis bilis pag dating sa pagkuha ng pondo, pag aksyon naman ang bagal. Kung sino sino pa ang tinuturo:bash:

wheel of steel
January 13th, 2010, 07:16 AM
Well, I did not see exit ramps there (Saimsim), only toll plaza structures similar to the Calamba Toll Plaza structures. There are no toll booths yet, though.

A toll plaza there would not be awkward. In fact, it would be totally sensible, since after exiting the Calamba toll plaza, you would have a choice whether to access the SLEX-STAR connection or not. If not, you don't have to pass the Saimsim toll plaza, if you do, you would have to pass through it. Otherwise, you would be taking a free ride through it. Makes sense, right?

Evidence:

http://i50.tinypic.com/vsfced.jpg

Saimsim Toll Plaza cNov 2009

Where is this place? Can you locate this through a map? Thanks a lot for the update.

bluesgnt30
January 13th, 2010, 07:20 AM
^^Yeah. thanks. I would love to know where exactly it is. Anyway, just to clarify this, this is a tool plaza, not an exit? So it means that it is the main road of the link.(Isn't that right?).

After the link is fully completed, are they going to install tollbooths at Calamba Interchange? Perhaps no, since there's a toll plaza there. But If I were to choose, I would rather install new tollbooths at Calamba, and a toll plaza at Saimsim (Since the number of vehicles that will pass at Calamba will lessen after the link is fully completed.)

bluesgnt30
January 13th, 2010, 07:33 AM
Where is this place? Can you locate this through a map? Thanks a lot for the update.

This is in Saimsim, Calamba City. I think it's near at Sto. Tomas (boundary of Laguna and Batanas), where the SLEX-Star link will be located.

SamwiseGamgee
January 13th, 2010, 09:29 AM
Where is this place? Can you locate this through a map? Thanks a lot for the update.

This is about 500 to 600 meters off the Petron-Makiling footbridge at the Maharlika Highway, along Acacia Road (Makiling-Saimsim-Maunong road). :)

^^Yeah. thanks. I would love to know where exactly it is. Anyway, just to clarify this, this is a tool plaza, not an exit? So it means that it is the main road of the link.(Isn't that right?).

As I said, there are no ramps there, so it is not an exit. Yes, it is the SLEX-STAR connection roadway, not an exit.

After the link is fully completed, are they going to install tollbooths at Calamba Interchange? Perhaps no, since there's a toll plaza there. But If I were to choose, I would rather install new tollbooths at Calamba, and a toll plaza at Saimsim (Since the number of vehicles that will pass at Calamba will lessen after the link is fully completed.)

Probably no, since that would make the Calamba Toll Gate redundant.

bluesgnt30
January 13th, 2010, 09:33 AM
^^Do you know where exactly at Saimsim the toll plaza will be located? I will appreciate if you highlight it on a map :) Thanks.

SamwiseGamgee
January 13th, 2010, 09:41 AM
^^Do you know where exactly at Saimsim the toll plaza will be located? I will appreciate if you highlight it on a map :) Thanks.

Will try. :okay:

SamwiseGamgee
January 13th, 2010, 10:53 AM
Here's the location of the Saimsim Toll Plaza. I don't know what they will be calling it, but it is located in Brgy. Saimsim, Calamba City. :)

http://i50.tinypic.com/2n9htlz.jpg

http://i47.tinypic.com/2ebagbd.jpg

Bahay_Kubo
January 13th, 2010, 11:43 AM
curious lang ako.

ginalaw ba ng contractors yung PNR right-of-way in the process of constructing the SLEX-STAR link?

absinthe_888
January 13th, 2010, 03:37 PM
Here's the location of the Saimsim Toll Plaza. I don't know what they will be calling it, but it is located in Brgy. Saimsim, Calamba City. :)

Thanks very much for this google image. Ngayon na visualize ko na kung asan yung mga future toll plazas.

curious lang ako.

ginalaw ba ng contractors yung PNR right-of-way in the process of constructing the SLEX-STAR link?

Paging Sir WOS :D

Pero yung tulay sa dulo ng SLEX, yung ilalim nun, PNR ROW yun.

bluesgnt30
January 13th, 2010, 09:27 PM
Thanks for posting it. Hmmm after the toll plaza was done and started to operate, would this toll plaza handle the toll fee collection for STAR? Or would this toll plaza serve as an entry point for vehicles from the Lucena extension and STAR?

butuan103
January 14th, 2010, 02:03 AM
Thanks for posting it. Hmmm after the toll plaza was done and started to operate, would this toll plaza handle the toll fee collection for STAR? Or would this toll plaza serve as an entry point for vehicles from the Lucena extension and STAR?

This toll plaza will only serve the SLEX portion. It will not handle the collection of STAR. There is now an on going contruction of the new mainline toll plaza along STAR at the Sto. Tomas area. This will replace the current entry and exit toll plaza on the loop of the Sto. Tomas Interchange.

fall_17
January 14th, 2010, 04:24 AM
Thanks for posting it. Hmmm after the toll plaza was done and started to operate, would this toll plaza handle the toll fee collection for STAR? Or would this toll plaza serve as an entry point for vehicles from the Lucena extension and STAR?


Tanong ko lang? meron din bang toll plaza sa SLEX-STAR interchange na gagawin kung sakali matuloy ang extension.?











This toll plaza will only serve the SLEX portion. It will not handle the collection of STAR. There is now an on going contruction of the new mainline toll plaza along STAR at the Sto. Tomas area. This will replace the current entry and exit toll plaza on the loop of the Sto. Tomas Interchange.

fall_17
January 14th, 2010, 04:25 AM
Possible magkaroon ng freeway sa portion ng Link at Sto.tomas exit...

SamwiseGamgee
January 14th, 2010, 05:15 AM
Possible magkaroon ng freeway sa portion ng Link at Sto.tomas exit...

??? Di ba freeway naman and SLEX galing Magallanes hanggang Calamba? O baka magka-iba lang ang interpretations natin ng "freeway"? :)

butuan103
January 14th, 2010, 06:20 AM
Tanong ko lang? meron din bang toll plaza sa SLEX-STAR interchange na gagawin kung sakali matuloy ang extension.?

If there's going to be an extension to Lucena, ito sa saimsim toll plaza ang gagamitin para sa road going to lucena

Christian_123
January 14th, 2010, 06:51 AM
??? Di ba freeway naman and SLEX galing Magallanes hanggang Calamba? O baka magka-iba lang ang interpretations natin ng "freeway"? :)

Ang Freeway ay Free habang ang SLEX naman ay Expressway. In short, hinde sya free :nuts:.. EDSA can be considered as a freeway but not SLEX.

SamwiseGamgee
January 14th, 2010, 08:02 AM
Ang Freeway ay Free habang ang SLEX naman ay Expressway. In short, hinde sya free :nuts:.. EDSA can be considered as a freeway but not SLEX.

Ganon po ba? Kala ko kasi ang SLEX ay freeway pero tollway at ang EDSA ay expressway pero walang toll. :nuts:

Kala ko kasi ang "free" sa freeway refers to the freedom of movement anywhere in the freeway, that's why there are interchanges and no at-grade intersections. Freedom pala yun sa hindi pagbayad ng toll fee? :lol:

bluesgnt30
January 14th, 2010, 09:49 AM
Tanong ko lang? meron din bang toll plaza sa SLEX-STAR interchange na gagawin kung sakali matuloy ang extension.?

For sure wala silang ilalagay na tollbooths dito. Since mayroon ng toll plaza sa Saimsim, at sariling toll plaza ang STAR (under construction), hindi na kelangan ng tollbooths. Parang ang magiging style eh sa Calamba interchange, wala ring tollbooths.

Lucentino
January 14th, 2010, 11:03 AM
If there's going to be an extension to Lucena, ito sa saimsim toll plaza ang gagamitin para sa road going to lucena

Ang pagka alam ko ay may interchange sa Ayala Greenfields. Bali if you exit the calamba toll plaza you already pay up to Greenfields. Ayala has already donated their land para sa interchange. Yung sa Saimsim ay if you will continue up to Sto. Tomas portion. But I might be wrong on this. I will double check and give you feedback.

@butuan103, pardon me for bringing this up, but you seem to have an insider information. I will be very glad to know more regarding the intricacies of this project, and your source of information. Thanks in advance!

:cheers1:


Ganon po ba? Kala ko kasi ang SLEX ay freeway pero tollway at ang EDSA ay expressway pero walang toll. :nuts:

Kala ko kasi ang "free" sa freeway refers to the freedom of movement anywhere in the freeway, that's why there are interchanges and no at-grade intersections. Freedom pala yun sa hindi pagbayad ng toll fee? :lol:

Ako rin kala ko freeway means free from obstacles (like crossings, pedestrians, etc.) and not the fee... :lol:


I always thought there would be one to Ayala, but considering the earthworks configuration there, medyo malabo na. Sayang, may rumors pa naman of a commercial area near the Greenfield Estates.

Eto po ba iyon?

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President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo is briefed by Greenfield Development Corporation chairman Jeffrey Joseph on the scale model of the Greenfield Regional Hub and the CALABARZON Regional Government Center during her visit in Calamba City, Laguna Friday (Dec.11, 2009). Also in photo are Laguna Governor Teresita Lazaro and Calamba City Mayor Joaquin Chipeco. (PNA/NIB photo by M. Pascua)
scs/fom

PS. Parang exagerated ang lapad ng SLEx sa scale model... at note na wala ngang exit dito... o baka di lang nakuha sa larawan... :)

NicknameForLife
January 14th, 2010, 11:30 AM
^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^

exagerated nga... kung magiging ganyan ang SLEX e wla na atang space para dito...

pano ang magiging transaction niyo sa tollfee pag katapos mong magbayad sa tollplaza (sa may Cabuyao ata un??) sa SLEX... pag nakalampas ka na dun... babayad ka uli sa Saimsim?? pano ba!! d ko kasi maintindihan eh... may tollplaza na gagawa pa ng isa?? hehe....

kung sa bagay pinagusapan nyo na ang "FREEWAY at EXPRESSWAY"...

e2 ang mga freeway sa Pinas!!

EDSA , C-1,2,3,4,5 and also 6(U.C.) and
Maharlika Highway: FYI: it is one of the Asian Highway Network... ang tawag sa ating highway ng ibang bansa ay AH-26... kung titingnan natin ito para narin siyang freeway dba??

SamwiseGamgee
January 14th, 2010, 03:55 PM
Eto po ba iyon?

I think that Greenfield property is somewhere in Cabuyao, if I'm not mistaken. Greenfield Estates in Maunong, Calamba is different.

kung sa bagay pinagusapan nyo na ang "FREEWAY at EXPRESSWAY"...

e2 ang mga freeway sa Pinas!!

EDSA , C-1,2,3,4,5 and also 6(U.C.) and
Maharlika Highway: FYI: it is one of the Asian Highway Network... ang tawag sa ating highway ng ibang bansa ay AH-26... kung titingnan natin ito para narin siyang freeway dba??

Does that mean all roads in the Philippines, except SCTEx, NLEX, SLEX and STAR are "freeways"? ;)

apiong
January 14th, 2010, 04:02 PM
based on what's being constructed and the position & orientation of the tollbooths, I can probably deduce the system of toll collection with TR3 & TR4 mixed with STAR:
(sort of a zone-based toll collection approach, similar to Bangkok's elevated expressways, I think)

Northbound:

[toll 1] Coming from STAR, I pay the toll fee as I exit via the new Sto. Tomas Toll Barrier and drive to towards the Saimsim Toll Plaza

[toll 2] Pay the toll fee at the Saimsim Toll Plaza (for the use of the 7km SLEX-STAR interconnection/TR3)

[toll 3] Pay at the destination exit northbound (notice that no toll cards are given to northbound vehicles entering via the Calamba, Canlubang, Canlubang Toll Barrier and now, TR3 entries.

note: when TR4 gets completed, northbound vehicles will also probably pay the toll at the Saimsim Toll Plaza, with vehicles given an entry toll card when they exit at the Sto. Tomas Toll Barrier... its quite complicated but Saimsim Toll Plaza needs to differentiate between vehicles coming from STAR and TR4


Southbound

[toll 1] pay toll at the Canlubang Toll Barrier and drive towards TR3

[toll 2] pay toll at the Saimsim Toll Plaza (for the use of the 7km SLEX-STAR interconnection/TR3)

[toll 3] Pay at the destination exit southbound (motorists will probably get an entry toll card at the new Sto. Tomas Toll Barrier)

note that unlike SLEX/MTD, STAR issues toll cards both ways, even on entry from farthest entry point, compared to SLEX/MTD which doesn't issue toll cards for vehicles entering via the Nichols/C-5 and Canlubang entries... so when TR4 is completed, when southbound motorists bound for Lucena leaves the Saimsim Toll Plaza, their next toll payment will be at their point of exit...


now, you will agree that the above probable setup is quite complicated, requiring as much as three (3) separate toll payments... that's because there are different operators for SLEX and STAR, same as currently as NLEX and SCTEX... now, if there was only one toll road operator or at least a single entity/system in place for centralized toll collection, things will be simpler :)

fall_17
January 14th, 2010, 07:01 PM
??? Di ba freeway naman and SLEX galing Magallanes hanggang Calamba? O baka magka-iba lang ang interpretations natin ng "freeway"? :)

Yup, freeway nga ang SLEX From magallanes to calamba pero may bayad na kapag papasok na sa exit.^^