Caw, you have excelled yourself once more with your awesome photography.
Buildings aren't always the most photogenic subjects but you somehow manage to overcome this.
I think you should enter the #3 shot, the one with the wheel, urbis, royal exchange spire and beetham. It's brilliant.

I've just blessed this Almighty Building with its own Wikipedia page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beetham_Tower%2C_Manchester). Uber-thanks to David Jones for uploading a photo for the entry.

That would be me then.. :)

Would be good if more skyscraper information was put onto Wikipedia, for the world to know. And photos..

Nice pics, thanks for the updates. ;)

This is more a picture of the tram line but what the hell....:

http://www.haighmail.com/photo/arianroberts.jpg

That's a fooking lovely picture, man.

wow! Tram to Tokyo anyone?!

I love that picture, the lines of the tram bridge draw your eye to the city in the distance, GREAT!!

Cheers. But that photo could be made better if I'd spent a bit more time on it. Problem was that it was taken at night on a dark + dingy bridle path next to a canal. Wasn't the best place to be poncing about with a camera I think!

A few from today

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y139/rolybling/archtower1.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y139/rolybling/archtower2.jpg

SHIMMER!!
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y139/rolybling/shimmer1.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y139/rolybling/shimmer2.jpg

Fantastic pics Rolybling, especially that 3rd one down with the sunlight on it.

I thought Beetham was on fire for a second then :eek: : . Look at the scale of it! Those work men look like tiny yellow fleas on it.

Someone's been up the Beetham Tower again. Watch your step Aidan!

http://i1.tinypic.com/mj3jo8.jpg

http://i1.tinypic.com/mj3jva.jpg

lucky git...

And look, there's more

Trafford

http://www.aidan.co.uk/lg/ManTwrSwVw6123.jpg

cbd

http://www.aidan.co.uk/lg/ManTwrAlbSqVw5pm6123.jpg

again

http://www.aidan.co.uk/lg/ManTwrCtrLibBw6123.jpg

spinningfields

http://www.aidan.co.uk/lg/ManTwrNwVwDiag6123.jpg

The views are fab from up there - if you can afford them! ;)

KITR - I dont think Aidan allows external linking of his images any more. Sneaky but understandable. Here's an extract from his blog about his taking of those pictures.

Photo walk up the Beetham Hilton Tower - Recovering after London trip

23rd January

Today's photo walk was an ascent of the Beetham Hilton Tower. I was invited to take more photos, this time from the very top of the building. The gigantic crane fixed to the south face of the tower is being jacked up even higher to allow the final rooftop sections to be installed. I hope to return tomorrow to take more photos.

My visit to the top of the tower was breathtaking - in every sense of the word, as we had to walk up the final 22 flights of steps.The exterior service lift currently only goes as far as the 35th floor.

I stood on the very topmost section. The views are stupendous, and it would be great to live up here, but I have already experienced high level living. During 1985 I was a resident at 1904 Thorn Court in Pendlebury, Salford, the red brick council-owned block at the end of Cross Lane, next to the Flemish Weaver pub.

In Abu Dhabi, from 1993 to 1996, I lived on the very top floor of the 'new' Airport Road building, the one next to the Adnoc petrol station. The view was great but then, as now, I'd prefer a view over Manchester.

The rest of the day was spent recovering after the London trip, and two very late nights.

Weather on the top of the Beetham Tower: probably around freezing due to altitude and wind chill. Misty with hazy sunshine.


Look how small the GN tower looks from that viewpoint. (Incidentally both towers looked incredible as seen from Albert Square today). Also look how small the tram is, if you can spot it.

KITR - I dont think Aidan allows external linking of his images any more.

I can see them!

Today at rush hour.

http://www.haighmail.com/photo/bb3.jpg

Great pic's Roly, its looking a real beauty now,, really looking forward to seeing it fully clad,with the blade,,its gonna look stunning when the cranes are taken down.

Those pics of Aiden's are stunning, were going to start seeing more and more pics of Manchester,that have never been seen before,,the city looks fantastic from up there,,,i want to live there,:) i better get a lotto ticket tomorrow :)

Beetham, grid reference SD484796 is a vlllage in Cumbria, Situated on the border with Lanacashire....... Nice people........ Can't say "i love concrete" any more.....(Apparently!!!!!!!!!!)

AAAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGGGHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :nuts: :nuts: :nuts: :crazy2: :crazy2: :crazy2: :rant: :rant: :rant: :no: :no: :no: :blahblah: :blahblah: :blahblah: :bleep: :bleep: :bleep: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad2: :mad2: :mad2: :puke: :puke: :puke:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y139/rolybling/shimmer1.jpg

You can see how much the crane has been jacked up now in this pic. The cabin itself must be around 200m. Just noticed the two men being suspended in a cage by the crane,now that would make a good bungee jump :runaway:

very nice pics roly, thanks

what camera do you use?

very nice pics roly, thanks

what camera do you use?

Go to JESSOPS!!

very nice pics roly, thanks

what camera do you use?
It has to a LEICA lenS though!!!!!!!!!!!!

very nice pics roly, thanks

what camera do you use?

I reckon it's an Olympus C725UZ. ;)

yep thats what it is^^ I think Caw's is a C750UZ which is miles better

Today from O/T...Holy Hilton Hotels Batman, look at the erection on that!!

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y139/rolybling/OT4.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y139/rolybling/OT2.jpg

Great pic, was wondering then, what's that attached to Beetham, then realised it's Sunley.

Beetham Tower today...

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e261/Mancplanner/BeethamTower1.jpg

:)

She looks really moody in the Manchester weather.

A lot of you use Olympus camera's don't you?

Yes. They're cheap.. ;)

Notice the BLADE being constructed on that pic to the right.

:)

Oh shit - didn't notice that!! :O

Hmm... blade? If so - excellent!

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e261/Mancplanner/Blade001.jpg

:D

Notice the BLADE being constructed on that pic to the right.

:)

Is it?

isn't that the framework for the glass structure thats going to cover those top 2 floors? or am I talking bollox?

i was first

lol

knowing me, it probably isnt, unless its the penthouse or something

i was first

lol

knowing me, it probably isnt, unless its the penthouse or something

No, I think you are right - it's the blade being fitted to the top. I'm pretty sure the penthouse is part of the main structure.

edit- on second thoughts, it could be the penthouse. in that case, this tower is still not at its tallest!

Actually its just the builders erecting a tent for a Blair Witch Project themed Stag Do. Ian Simpson is going to turn up at midnight and kick the tent sides whilst playing tape recordings of babies crying.

I got told this story today, you know when the cladding stopped for a few weeks before Christmas, well apprently a crane was lifting some up,and it snapped dropping 2 panes on the site below, so work had to stop.

I thought there was another 2 floors to go,cos the core is higher than the finished floors, im not complaining it looks stunning now :)

nah, the BLADE starts from the second floor from the top and will rise quite a bit above the top of that concrete we can see,

that bit sticking out at the top, the concrete bit, will be surrounded in glass, ..I'm sure what your on about is just the framework for the glass to be added, it looks fixed to me and the blade is on the south side..I may be wrong of course

Look

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y139/rolybling/380BeethamReachesNewHeightsInManche.jpg

and if you look on this one you can see the blade starts 2 floors from the top, ie: where the highest floor plate is now

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y139/rolybling/132BeethamTowerManchester_pic2.jpg

Roly's right, that's simmos apartment.

Crikey! So yes, what I saw today was just the penthouse? It just keeps going up..

now that is one HUGE penthouse

Crikey! So yes, what I saw today was just the penthouse? It just keeps going up..

well the core was already at that height.

I wouldn't mind living there myself, I can see it now, all hardwood floors and contempory art hanging on the walls, brushed stainless steel appliances in the kitchen...oh to be rich, he'll have one of the Neville's living below him then...wonder if he got it at a good price seen as he designed the building.

Just a few questions how far away will Eastgate and Crown building be from Beetham tower and how far away is salford from the city/Beetham tower? Thanx

Eastgate and Crown, which will be about 300metres away from each other at a rough guess, are about a mile away from Beetham, tops.

Salford's border with Manchester isn't far from Beetham, but as for an accurate distance, it depends on where you want to reference Salford as.

Salford's border is exactly half a mile from Beetham.

Albany Tower is 2/3 of a mile from Beetham and Eastgate is a mile away.

Salford's border is exactly half a mile from Beetham.

Albany Tower is 2/3 of a mile from Beetham and Eastgate is a mile away.

From Eastgate, Albany will be 200m west, and Beetham 1km west.

Just a few questions how far away will Eastgate and Crown building be from Beetham tower and how far away is salford from the city/Beetham tower? Thanx

You can walk opposite the Beetham tower down Liverpool st do a left and your on Regent rd Salford, do a right and you will come to trinity way in Salford, both a 10 minute walk from Beetham approx 1/2 mile, as for eastgate and albany id say about the same sort of distance to albany add another 200m for eastgate. Why do you ask by the way??

From Eastgate, Albany will be 200m west, and Beetham 1km west.

According to Google Earth:

Eastgate to Albany 0.13 miles (209 m)
Eastgate to Beetham 0.86 miles (1383 m)
Albany to Beetham 0.73 miles (1174 m)
Beetham to Salford (Irwell) 0.39 miles (628 m)


.

Hang on I'll just get my tape measure :)

On the way home yesterday ~ 3:15pm enroute from piccadilly towards castlefield, the Beetham tower suddenly came into view with the Hacienda apartments to my right. And oh boy ! :eek2: what wonderful site. I have seen many views of the tower but this one was absolutely fab. I spotted a couple of guys with a stunning camera on a tripod taking pictures just oppsite the Hacienda traffic lights. If that was you then please can you post them on here? I will be eternally grateful. :)

I imagine the stuff on the right is steel frame for the penthouse, and the thick double bit on the left is the start of the blade, which is on the opposite side to the cantilever.

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e261/Mancplanner/Blade001.jpg

Can someone get the same pic as above but on super zoom to the 'double' struts that run the length of the south west elevation. I want to know if it is pemanent steelwork or formwork for concrete columns. Cheers.

I imagine the stuff on the right is steel frame for the penthouse, and the thick double bit on the left is the start of the blade, which is on the opposite side to the cantilever.




Thought this top bit was a double height machinery and services floor?

I thought that the top floor was plant also.

Can someone get the same pic as above but on super zoom to the 'double' struts that run the length of the south west elevation. I want to know if it is pemanent steelwork or formwork for concrete columns. Cheers.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y57/caw123/P1240040copy.jpg

I really can't tell if these are permanent or not. They look like they've been used before, but today when I went past the steel frame had advanced further and seemed to be partly supported by these struts.

Hey all. Sorry they are late. here are a few images of Beetham from the past. Hope you like them anyway.

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/Geeves8612/Photo-0143.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a260/Geeves8612/Photo-0176.jpg

Going up haha. You get a good idea of the scale of this beast from this angle, and this was back in August/Septemberish :P

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y57/caw123/P1240040copy.jpg

I really can't tell if these are permanent or not. They look like they've been used before, but today when I went past the steel frame had advanced further and seemed to be partly supported by these struts.

They are definately temporary props. Either supporting formwork for a concrete slab or they are there to support steel work during erection all very intriging.

Glass panels being lifted this morning. Look at the size of the little constrution workers.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture0577.jpg

Taken from a top secret ;) location...

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e261/Mancplanner/P1270001.jpg

And another top secret :| location (but this time behind a window)...

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e261/Mancplanner/P1270009.jpg

:D

WOW, where the hell was the first one taken from??

Which building is that in front of it?

is it public?

views like that are among some of the most beaiful of manchester.

Is that the view from city college?

Spot the lone construction worker. :shocked:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture0599.jpg

Both views are from university buildings (which are NOT, I repeat NOT, public).

So, CAW - will this tempt you to come to Manchester to do town planning? ;)

Watch the skyline grow!

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e261/Mancplanner/BeethamTower2.jpg

Are those photos from the top of MMU Aytoun St? I had an exam today and was sat next to the window on floor seven of the Aytoun 'tower'. I had similar views. Couldn't take photos. It being an exam and all.

Got one photo from the roof of the car park I was in though. it's not great compared to the above!:

http://www.haighmail.com/photo/Img_2062.jpg

Hang on, I can see my car on the top of the car park in the second Manchester planner picture! The nearer of the two at the left of the car park picture.

I reckon the second picture is taken from the white residential (I think) university tower.

"Are those photos from the top of MMU Aytoun St?"

MMU? No! University of Manchester!

LOL. I'm not getting into university wars!

I'm a (slightly) mature student doing a part-time professional course that happens to be hosted by MMU.

This your car? :D

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a83/Sundornian/Car.jpg

Taken today.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture0811.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture0844.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture0833.jpg

Blade news.

Construction of the blade will begin next month. Possibly within two weeks.

Many thanks Mark Davis.http://www.qubed.com/

Yes, that is my car!

My car again, parked opposite my house:

http://www.haighmail.com/photo/mycar.jpg

jrb, I am pretty sure I saw you take those photos... You asked me for the time and I replied that I didn't have the time. May I apologise, since in my bag I did have a phone that could have provided you with the time.

I was in a hurry on my way to the aforementioned exam. I did think at the time that the identity of someone on this board might be revealed by those photos! And so it turned out! You look remarkably normal for someone posting on a skyscraper board! :)

When i was coming home from college tonight i was going past timperly met station and if you looked you could see Beetham rising from the skyline with it all being lit up it looked beautiful

Welcome to the forum "flange"! :)

Thanks

Yes, that is my car!

My car again, parked opposite my house:

http://www.haighmail.com/photo/mycar.jpg

jrb, I am pretty sure I saw you take those photos... You asked me for the time and I replied that I didn't have the time. May I apologise, since in my bag I did have a phone that could have provided you with the time.

I was in a hurry on my way to the aforementioned exam. I did think at the time that the identity of someone on this board might be revealed by those photos! And so it turned out! You look remarkably normal for someone posting on a skyscraper board! :)

No probs mate!

At least somebody else thinks I'm normal. :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture0644.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture0799.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture0822.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture0633.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture060.jpg

Thanks all those pics jrb, especially of the entrance lobby bit. That part rarely gets snapped, what with it being so unfashionably close to the ground.

Superb shots, much appreciated. Same goes for everyone who has taken the time and effort to upload pics on this here forum. :applause: :rock:

The whole entrance area seems a little... uninspiring at the moment.

jrb are you Black? while I was in town yesterday I saw 2 guys one black, one white, with amazingly MASSIVE telephoto lenses running to the front entrance of Beetham to take pics of it...was that you or your mate by chance?

wish I had a camera like they had.

jrb are you Black? while I was in town yesterday I saw 2 guys one black, one white, with amazingly MASSIVE telephoto lenses running to the front entrance of Beetham to take pics of it...was that you or your mate by chance?

wish I had a camera like they had.

I'm white, and have a very SMALL zoom lense. I've got a HUGE 3 inch LCD screen on my camera though! :wink2:

yeah black guys always have the biggest extentions...on their cameras I mean...IMO..not that I would know about such things :)

Both views are from university buildings (which are NOT, I repeat NOT, public).

So, CAW - will this tempt you to come to Manchester to do town planning? ;)

I've been set on Manc for a year now MP!

Those views remind me of when I snuck up the old UMIST Maths and Social Sciences last year. :)

It's amazing the amount of people who are around taking photos of Beetham. I see several every day. And people looking up too. Old people, young people. While waiting at some lights a busload of kids went past and many were staring and pointing up at the behemoth.

yeah black guys always have the biggest extentions...on their cameras I mean...IMO..not that I would know about such things :)

Roly, you sound like you need to get down to Essential :laugh:

great pics by all :)

jrb are you Black? while I was in town yesterday I saw 2 guys one black, one white, with amazingly MASSIVE telephoto lenses running to the front entrance of Beetham to take pics of it...was that you or your mate by chance?

wish I had a camera like they had.
Did one have a white or grey hat on, with a black camera bag. My mate has been in town this week taking pics with a silly big camera. Could have been him?

Roly, you sound like you need to get down to Essential :laugh: :)

UGHH!! No thanks, been there done that :)

Did one have a white or grey hat on, with a black camera bag. My mate has been in town this week taking pics with a silly big camera. Could have been him?

One of em' had a white hat on yeah.

One of em' had a white hat on yeah.

Ye it was probs my mate. He has 100s of photos of Manchester and his setting up his website atm. When its done we are gona be in for a treat.

Some photos from last week

Notice the man hanging on the side of the crane jack-up, some 580ft+ in the air :runaway:
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y57/caw123/P1240010copy.jpg

3 towers
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y57/caw123/P1240021copy.jpg

Los Angeles?
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y57/caw123/P1240026copy.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y57/caw123/P1240044copy.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y57/caw123/P1240030copy.jpg


Btw, if anyone is in Hulme on a sunny day at around 12-2pm, take a photo of Beetham down Hulme High Street. The fins on the side look amazing.

Beetham best tower by far! Manchester looks fantastic and improving very quickly. The industrial heritage and the new architecture blend very well!

Maybe not that relevant - but on the BBC's weather this morning you could clearly see Beetham on the Manchester weather cam.
Cool pics BTW.

It looks like they're planning to build a green house at the top! Seriously though, that penthouse is going to have stunning views, although it might be a bit bright in the summer ;)

Last post of the last thread.


It looks like they're planning to build a green house at the top! Seriously though, that penthouse is going to have stunning views, although it might be a bit bright in the summer ;)


CAW, KitR...you remember the Thread 7 starter Fiasco...so I thought I may aswell start thread 8....and make it look like I do something around here.

You've done this all wrong!

Well its done now..probably did need a new thread..lets make the most of it

It should have a link to the old thread though, and a piccy of the tower. And some stats!

well one of us can do that can't we

What an almighty cockup this thread is.

What an almighty cockup this thread is.

Is it balls.

Eddy K has done the right thing, stick the link in and the pic yourself instead of moaning.

Last page of thread 7
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=7184713#post7184713

Highrise Buildings


Beetham Tower
Aka. 301 Deansgate
Under Construction
Heights 50 floors. 171m to blade, 157m to roof.
Dates 2004-2006
Usage Hotel and Residential/Office
Forum Thread Beetham Tower
Links Official Site
Notes Will be new tallest in Manchester breaking the 44 year old CIS Tower’s record, and UK's tallest outside London. Will have UK's highest living space.
Made public on July 4th 2003 and approved by late October the same year. By time of approval 206/219 apartments had been sold. Top floor penthouse sold for record £3.5 Million to the architect, Ian Simpson.
A 12 story office tower will be built next to the main tower. Began construction in February 2004, completion is due August 2006.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y139/rolybling/MAN29.jpg

This still remains my fave pic of the tower.


http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c196/taelifoo/DSCF0109.jpg

This still remains my fave pic of the tower.


http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c196/taelifoo/DSCF0109.jpg

Was that the one taken from Chandos Hall (Student accom). It's an excellent shot. Whoever took it should take the same shot once the tower is fully glazed and includes the the glazed blade. Victorian/Edwardian Manchester with the 21st century tower looming in the distance does it for me.

The two other great shots are Albert Square with Beetham and GN (plus Raddison and soon to be joined by 17 Windmill Street) looming over the square and the one in the Castlefield basin with Beetham reflected in the water.

Are those white stripes coming out or what?

Really dont like em... :rant:

And yes...That shot is truely astonishing...Epic even...

I love the way the lowirse constrast's with its height....

Are those white stripes coming out or what?

Really dont like em... :rant:
The vertical ones are permanent, the horizontal ones are temporary.

Just a few pics from today...

Tried to get some new angles...

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c388/Corris_/Beetham3.jpg

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c388/Corris_/Beetham2.jpg

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c388/Corris_/Beetham1.jpg

Well... I did take some Beetham pics today, but Manc Guy has stolen my views! (or just one of them...)

Is it my imagination or has the crane on the right got taller? And can I see more steelwork or something at what looks like the beginning of the blade?

Is it my imagination or has the crane on the right got taller? And can I see more steelwork or something at what looks like the beginning of the blade?
It was jacked up the other day. I saw caw post an image when they were doing it. See thread 7

post em anyway accura, its starting to look the part now for me

How tall is that tallest crane now when in its full vertical position? Must be knocking on 220m?

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c388/Corris_/Beetham1.jpg[/QUOTE]
Now thats tall :eek2:

GN looks tiny (almost) next to it in that 3rd pic

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/Accura/DSC00407.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/Accura/DSC00400.jpg

the cladding's class

8! Is this the longest thread ever in the Manchester section?

It's the 'Blues' Brothers! CIS+BEETHAM, both with new Jackets.
Thanks Accura, CIS is looking good. :)

They seem to have constructed some sort of structure on top...As you can see on these other piccies i got...

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c388/Corris_/Beetham6.jpg

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c388/Corris_/Beetham5.jpg

8! Is this the longest thread ever in the Manchester section?

The construction of the Beetham tower in Manchester is quite probably the most followed/photographed out of all the new towers in the UK section!

:cheers:

@Manc Guy - that's the penthouse. The blade will go on top of that! :)

I tell you what i sit right next to this tower in the RBS building on the 6th floor every day and it amazes me how tall it looks especialy with that penthouse being built ontop!

I tell you what i sit right next to this tower in the RBS building on the 6th floor every day and it amazes me how tall it looks especialy with that penthouse being built ontop!

If 5 streets away is 'right next to'? :?

Took about 30 photos of Beetham on Tuesday, here's a few.

From the Basin
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y57/caw123/P1300005copy.jpg

Someone on the 28th floor isn't a fan!
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y57/caw123/P1300015copy.jpg

Plane
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y57/caw123/P1300017copy.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y57/caw123/P1300028copy.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y57/caw123/P1300030copy.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y57/caw123/P1300042copy.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y57/caw123/P1300046copy.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y57/caw123/P1310055copy.jpg

lovely, thanks Caw

Chris, that plane shot is stunning.
You weren't lying down when you took it were you? lol

By the way, how do the crane operators get all the way up to the cabin? Is it part lift, part climb?

No thanks! :nuts:

Those are brilliant pics CAW. The plane one is indeed superb, as is the one with the word 'Shite' spelt out in the window. :D

The one of Beetham's reflection in the icy water is my fave. :cheers:

A couple of pictures from today.

A cold and grey sort of Manchester day:

http://www.haighmail.com/photo/IMG_208jj.jpg

A close up of the growth at the base. As much as I love Beetham, this protrusion is worrying me:

http://www.haighmail.com/photo/IMG_208fg8.JPG

Today was a crap day. It was freezing, only just getting above 1°C its already dropped to -2°C and its only 6pm.

A couple of pictures from today.

A cold and grey sort of Manchester day:

http://www.haighmail.com/photo/IMG_208jj.jpg

A close up of the growth at the base. As much as I love Beetham, this protrusion is worrying me:

http://www.haighmail.com/photo/IMG_208fg8.JPG

Don't forget that the white sheets on the inside of the windows will eventully be taken down.

Thats when we will really see what she looks like.

The one of Beetham's reflection in the icy water is my fave. :cheers:

Mine too. It looks even better upside down :)
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a368/manchesterbaby/ice180.jpg
Fantastic picture!

And what on earth are these?
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/\ i think they're fog horns, or something. you can hear them during working hours.

Caw should enter the (inverted) reflection pic with the caption 'Ice Storm' . Or maybe a tabloid-style headline--'Beetham Blade Shatters!'

Spy cams I believe.

Your pics are pure class, CAW. Well done. :)

I work at the airport and am involved in notifying obstacles to aircraft. We were in touch with the constructor (Carillion) today and they confirmed max crane height of 180 metres until May. Their programme shows the blade frame fully erected at the end of February with a height to the permanent red obstacle lighting (at each end of the blade) of 171.585 metres.

i love it

I work at the airport and am involved in notifying obstacles to aircraft. We were in touch with the constructor (Carillion) today and they confirmed max crane height of 180 metres until May. Their programme shows the blade frame fully erected at the end of February with a height to the permanent red obstacle lighting (at each end of the blade) of 171.585 metres.

Good call Roverman.

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Someones written a naughty word in the window

yes, they're just warning lights. Canary wharf tower and tower 42 have them halfway up as well.

yes, they're just warning lights. Canary wharf tower and tower 42 have them halfway up as well.
Yeah, probably aircraft marker lights, they will be red. which will be appropriate as the hotel will likely be nothing but a high-class knocking-shop ;)

OK. Lets try that again. look in the window near the top of the picture. Im well aware theyre lights but we've moved on now.

OK. Lets try that again. look in the window near the top of the picture. Im well aware theyre lights but we've moved on now.

lol, it's been noted mate, it's them that have moved on not yourself, people were just ignoring you!
see Caw's comment when he posted it first time around.

Is it just me or has CAW's zoom gone crap quality of late? Seems very pixelly all of a sudden.

Well I only save photos at medium quality now(6/12) to save space on photobucket, to save bandwith and reduce loading times.

But then again, you just wanted something to complain about, Earlybird.

Well I only save photos at medium quality now(6/12) to save space on photobucket, to save bandwith and reduce loading times.
That would explain it then. :) For some reason, though, I don't seem to notice it as much on the photos that aren't zoomed. Incidentally, 80% compression is the best size/quality trade-off for JPEG images.

A few taken on a bitter foggy wednesday
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i love this tower + the way it has got the genral public interested in it; even my mate + my dad have commented on it + i would never have expected a tower under cunstruction in mcr to have been able to do that. although my mate did say 'thats that new tower their building innit? gonna be the biggest in manchester; isnt it gonna be twice the height its at now?' ...... we can all dream i suppose.
still, a great tower that has got people who would never usually be interested in high-rises talking about it

Yeah, probably aircraft marker lights, they will be red. which will be appropriate as the hotel will likely be nothing but a high-class knocking-shop ;)
Just hope the Women of the Night don't end up in the Penthouse.....!!!! But it won't be as big as the EROS CENTRE (biggest whorehouse or knocking-shop in the world) in Hamburg though!!!!We passed through it in 1989 on the way to Berlin to watch the Wall get broken down...Have a guess what ?....East german border guards wouldn't let me through Check Point Charlie...i think it was the smile on me face........they let my mates go through though!!!!!!!! So i went back to the Irish Bar in the Europa centre and consoled myself with a few pints of Guinness!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Does Beetham have two big red lights on top at night? I could see two red lights quite high from a country road in cronton widnes miles away.

I dont think the tower does yet, but maybe it was the cranes.

I dont think the tower does yet, but maybe it was the cranes.
It must be it was in the direction of Manchester and i cant think of what else it could be over that way.

The cranes definetly have red lights on so it must have been those.

Hi Manc guys. I went up to Manchester for the first time a couple of weeks back.

Anyway, you couldn't miss this tower, it is absolutely gigantic and looks spectacular in the sunlight. I was very impressed.

Also, it looks, far, far better than the Beetham Tower in Brum as I drove past that on the M40 motorway and had a good glimpse of that one too.

Manchester is on course to have a very very impressive skyline by 2010.

If we look at developments in Manchester from a conservative viewpoint these towers should be all complete/renovated by the end of the decade:

1. Inacity Tower (616 ft)
2. Beetham Tower (515 ft)
3. Crown Tower (@48 stories - 470 ft)
4. CIS Tower (387 ft)
5. City Tower (351 ft)

I imagine that that alone would lend Manchester the position of having one of the top modern skylines in Europe.

What do other people on this forum think will get built in Manc by the end of the noughties?

What do other people on this forum think will get built in Manc by the end of the noughties?

No. 1 Hardman Square
A tower or 2 at the Greengate Site
Hopefully Dandaras Crowngate Tower
Middlewood Locks
If BBC relocates to Manchester over Salford a couple at Central Spine

Hey glad you liked it Dom, it's sure a biggun.
But let's not play the 2010 game here, plenty of other threads with that going on.

Drove up Chester Road in to town this evening.

It doesn't hit you, it's there, always there. As you get closer , it gets bigger and bigger, eventually filling the sky and overwhelming everything around it.
Then, and only then, do you begin to realize how awesome this skyscraper really is. :)

Simpson has once again raised the bench mark in Manchester.

You back in the UK for good Dom or just a fleeting visit?
Must check out your Osaka pics again - they were rather fascinating. Was it teaching you were doing over there?

Agreed JRB, the positioning and style of Beetham is something else. Someone there did not olnly do his homework but had a vision, a plan and maybe good fortune to realise this one. English Heritage take note, designers and forward thinkers of today are also worthy and deserve opportunity. Let's hope the visions of 5 yrs after Beetham are given their chance!

A reminder of what it looked like before.

http://www.manchesteronline.co.uk/ewm/16/56.jpg

Drove up Chester Road in to town this evening.

It doesn't hit you, it's there, always there. As you get closer , it gets bigger and bigger, eventually filling the sky and overwhelming everything around it.
Then, and only then, do you begin to realize how awesome this skyscraper really is. :)

Simpson has once again raised the bench mark in Manchester.

You're right JRB, as you get past Old Trafford/Sir Matt Busby Way it totally dominates everything in sight, it does look very very large from there, only really noticed it myself the other week from there when I drove out of PC World and down Chester Rd, I couldn't believe how massive it looked.

http://www.manchesteronline.co.uk/men/news/s/203/203389_city_tower_hit_by_basejump_prank.html

City tower hit by 'base-jump' prank
John Scheerhout

DROP: Beetham Tower.
DROP: Beetham Tower.
FOUR daredevils risked their lives to parachute off Manchester's tallest building almost unnoticed.

They bypassed security to reach the top of the 47-storey, 561ft Beetham Tower being built in the city.

They jumped off the top, opened their parachutes and landed safely on Gartside Street, well away from the foot of the building, at 1am.

One amazed passer-by who saw the stunt reported it to police.

It is thought to be the first time so-called "base jumpers" - adrenaline junkies who leap from buildings, cliffs and other objects instead of from planes - have struck in Manchester.

Canopies

They use small, special canopies and don't carry a back-up parachute as there is not enough time to deploy one in the event of a main chute failure.

Greater Manchester Police said: "Officers are looking into this. It looks like four people have parachuted down the side of the building."

The activity is not illegal, although some base jumpers have been prosecuted for criminal damage or trespass.

Last week, two men jumped from the roof of a 28-storey Hilton hotel in London's Park Lane.

Neither the owners of the £150m building, nor Carillion, who are building it, would comment on the stunt.

What crap security they must have!! :O

Re Northbeach. In Osaka I taught English for a couple of years.

I left a year ago. Sob. I just haven't changed my profile as I've just come back from travelling. I also worked in Tokyo for a bit :)

I'd recommend visiting Japan to anyone on this forum. I will do some massive 'best of' Japan photo postings in the next few weeks.

Interestingly, Osaka was once known as 'Manchester of the East' as its where the formidable Sumitomo keiretsu was founded and where the country first industrialised.

Back on topic...

With the Beetham Tower it has such a slim profile it makes it really soar. For example... the Roppongi Hills Tower in Tokyo is tall (around 800feet) but doesn't soar because aesthetically it resembles a sumo wrestler. However, a tower like Centrepoint looks very tall from the side as its so slim. Beetham is definitely in the Centrepoint mould!

I only looked at Beetham from the ASDA car park near Moss Side but it really looked like a gem. The glass look top quality... far better than the rubbish in the Bank Street Canary Wharf towers. The quality of construction appeared more on a par with Plantation Place (in the City) and Swiss Re.

Beetham is a tower that Manchester can be rightfully proud of. I think in many ways it symbolises the change that has occurred between the IRA 1996 bomb (the catalyst) and the Commonwealth Games.

Dom how can you make such a claim when you see it from a Motorway - the Brum tower close up is fantastic.

Anyway I really like this one, when is the blade due to go up, should be spectacular when all done.

Hey Dom, I went to the Roppongi District last year. I was quite interested, cause the developers that did that, had PP for the suface car park between Whitworth St West, Canal St and Sackville St, next to New Samsi, for a 27 storey tower.

I liked what they had done in Tokyo. High quality. Loved the public art and spaces too and there was an awesome looking Louis Vuitton shop that looked as though it was crafted from diamonds!

Not heard a thing about that project since, but the way Picc Place is going who knows. It would be nice to have that, Beetham, Albany and Eastgate, all in a (squigely) line!

http://www.manchesteronline.co.uk/men/news/s/203/203389_city_tower_hit_by_basejump_prank.html

City tower hit by 'base-jump' prank
John Scheerhout

DROP: Beetham Tower.
DROP: Beetham Tower.
FOUR daredevils risked their lives to parachute off Manchester's tallest building almost unnoticed.

They bypassed security to reach the top of the 47-storey, 561ft Beetham Tower being built in the city.

They jumped off the top, opened their parachutes and landed safely on Gartside Street, well away from the foot of the building, at 1am.

One amazed passer-by who saw the stunt reported it to police.

It is thought to be the first time so-called "base jumpers" - adrenaline junkies who leap from buildings, cliffs and other objects instead of from planes - have struck in Manchester.

Canopies

They use small, special canopies and don't carry a back-up parachute as there is not enough time to deploy one in the event of a main chute failure.

Greater Manchester Police said: "Officers are looking into this. It looks like four people have parachuted down the side of the building."

The activity is not illegal, although some base jumpers have been prosecuted for criminal damage or trespass.

Last week, two men jumped from the roof of a 28-storey Hilton hotel in London's Park Lane.

Neither the owners of the £150m building, nor Carillion, who are building it, would comment on the stunt.

Haha, that is hilarious!

I wonder how they managed it? Surely the workers lift would've been turned off? Did they take the stairs? :runaway:

Cheers Dom - my mates beat me to it and he's off to Tokyo later this year (his brother teaches in/nr Tokyo).
pm me when you've uploaded your retrospective as I don't normally low ride the bowels of this forum on a regular basis...if they're as good as your Osaka lot then we're in for a treat. My local Asda that - almost every nationality under one slapped arse roof. What brought you up to Manc for a trip?

Gshutty - the developers must be Conran & partners? I think the tower may have been knocked on the head given the surrounds (I had the tower as further up Canal Street mind).

First batch of photos taken today. Nice weather for the first time in....a bit.
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thanks Caw, lovely pics, its lookin superb

Good pics, CAW, you've definitley improved over the years.

Do a photography course in future. You've got a head start.

Good pics, CAW, you've definitley improved over the years.

Do a photography course in future. You've got a head start.
I think CAW is probably qualified to put a photography course on! :)

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I like the way the sunlight catches the fins while the facade of the tower is shaded apart from the top. I was worried about those fins looking tacky but this is another feature of the tower which has surprised me ...I love it,I love it,I love it, I love it.......right calm down Ian!

I had a feeling those fins would come good.... :)

My my... I cant wait until the cladding is done on this. Already looks better than Sunley.

I'm sure its been said before but this is one of those rare buildings that is more beautiful in its finished form that its drawings/ models/ renderings.
A truly stunning building that excites me every time (and i mean every time) i see it. I hope i never grow tired of this building.

Starting to take on a "finished" as the cladding reaches further up the tower and those fins look great reflecting the sun, a nice detail. Looking forward to seeing the fin go up as it looks a bit stumpy at the moment due to the overhang, the fin should balance it out nicely.

Impressed with the way this one is turning out, more so than the Birmingham tower.

Great stuff...

Love the updated pics, cheers ;) Surprising how much progress they've made with the cladding, even since the end of December when I went and checked it out. It really blossoms in the Sunshine. It's almost surreal at times. I'm appreciative of the fins, too.

CAW, if you take any more pics of this tower it'll take out a restraining order on you.

Seriously though, really great pics. Much appreciated. :bow:

Ta.

The rest.
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This really does look very tall! I like this one alot - simple yet effective! Are there any plans for surrounding mid rises as it looks a little lonely?

When Beetham is completed I will get something off my chest.

I can't F***ing wait!(excuse me)

Now is not the time though.

When Beetham is completed I will get something off my chest.

I can't F***ing wait!(excuse me)

Now is not the time though.
It's not good to bottle things up guy.

C'mon now, spit it out! Get the fucker off yer chest!!

You'll feel better for it, trust me....

Besides, it's gonna be at least Autumn before Beetham's finished and how can you last that long? It'll kill ya!

It's not good to bottle things up guy.

C'mon now, spit it out! Get the fucker off yer chest!!

You'll feel better for it, trust me....

Besides, it's gonna be at least Autumn before Beetham's finished and how can you last that long? It'll kill ya!

I've been waiting the best part of two years Miles.

Waiting another eight months won't bother me.:)

If nothing else, it confirms what we always knew.

I'll leave it at that before my spleen explodes all over my keyboard.

I've been waiting the best part of two years Miles.

Waiting another eight months won't bother me.:)

If nothing else, it confirms what we always knew.

I'll leave it at that before my spleen explodes all over my keyboard.
To quote Napoleon Dynamite....."Gawwd.......hate you...." :gaah:

Taken from Aidan's site.

http://www.aidan.co.uk/lg/ManTwrTopFloor6124.jpg

I do some stuff for Aidan's site and i'm a bit tempted to ask him if i can go with him every time he goes up Beetham but i suffer from crippling vertigo and have a phobia of open lifts. That photo just confirms that as much as i would love to go up there i know i just wouldnt be able to make it!

Taken from Aidan's site.

http://www.aidan.co.uk/lg/ManTwrTopFloor6124.jpg

I love RMD....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!But i can't figure out why there's so many crane drivers in the background...must be a trade union meeting !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

but i suffer from crippling vertigo and have a phobia of open lifts. !

I hope you never cross the road. Your chances of survival are shite compared to those open lift users. Seriously, I wonder if A O'R would mind company?

I love RMD....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!But i can't figure out why there's so many crane drivers in the background...must be a trade union meeting !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

a meeting on a crane. :D

I hope you never cross the road. Your chances of survival are shite compared to those open lift users. Seriously, I wonder if A O'R would mind company?

Take him down the pub anytime.......because the O'R used to work for the O'K

O'Kane?

O'Kane?
No.... Kane & Able!!!!!!!!!!

wish I could see this pic you're all on about

Another nice day today so took some pics.

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f85/garybaldy/beet.jpg

Looming over St Peter's Sq
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/ANTEATPETE/beetham.jpg

Give us a clue, jrb.

Going on hols for 2 weeks as off Monday - full expect the blade to be up and the cladding almost completed by the time I get back.

Beetham from the Quays area
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The light I love the most: dark sky, bright sunshine.
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wow nice, the 1st and 3rd are beaut's

Well, it's nearly externally complete!

Wow, the cladding is really progressing!

This pic is ABSOLUTELY BLOODY BRILLIANT!!!
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y57/caw123/P2100006copy.jpg
:eek2:

Yes, you know your entering a major city when you see sights like that on the skyline. A real majestic beaut.

dj exclusive, the blade is going up

http://freake.demon.co.uk/coppermine/albums/store/10002/man101.jpg

http://freake.demon.co.uk/coppermine/albums/store/10002/man100.jpg

Thanks to the random person in Didsbury who's wireles network I borrowed

what in the wide wide world is that dj?

Looks like there'll be 2 hinged arms, one on t'other side, that'll stretch up to 171m. I'd imagine the blade will end up being a fat double glazed effort, as if the cladding on the south side were to just continue above the roof. If you get me.

Ta deej.

I dont think that is the blade. Its the crane that hangs over the sides, so they can wash the windows.

I thought the blades supports were gonna be concrete for some reason, dont know why, maybe it was mentioned once on here before, whatever that is it doesn't look strong enough to support a mega sheet of double glazed glass

I thought that, but if you look at the first pic, where the arm's placed, there's a concrete base for it that stretchs the height of the penthouse (or plant floor, whatever). There's one for where the other arm should go too. I think these are the supports for the blade.

I thought that, but if you look at the first pic, where the arm's placed, there's a concrete base for it that stretchs the height of the penthouse (or plant floor, whatever). There's one for where the other arm should go too. I think these are the supports for the blade.

hope so

Hey CAW, they look like vertical steel trusses to me. Oooh yeh, duff man says jackpot.

Just been out to have a look. You cant see the strut from the back. I think its been placed in the middle of the roof, you can see it from the front. I'm 90% certain this is one of probably two arms for cleaning the windows as it stands now.

ooohh It's nearly finished!!!

I think it's a mini crane purely to facilitate lifting any heavy items on that top deck that is needed to get the blade installed. Well spotted DJ

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a83/Sundornian/P2130001.jpg

:D :D :D

Bah - as photobucket sized that one down so much...

(Close up of the above)

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a83/Sundornian/Beetham00001.jpg

It is nearly finished! :)

thanks MP, wot do we reckon? fully clad by the end of March?

Can't see it being for window cleaning with a boom that length.

Talking about cleaning the windows on this sucker, I wonder if Simpson figured out how the cleaners platform will be able to negotiate round the jut (or off-set) when the platform descends down to the hotel windows below the skybar?

I can envision a system of pulleys to keep it hugging the building, but is it possible our Ian could have forgotten about this minor detail?...

Nah, I don't think so, that's why he's paid the big bucks..... :)

Have you lot not heard of self - cleaning glass? Made just down the road in St Helens.

Magnificent! :)

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Some belter's there jerb,,cheers

quality jerb....!

I love the transparency of Simpson's trademark lines on the back cladding above the skybar. Works beautifully from a distance. The little white lines at the bottom of the panes works awesomely, leaving the main space clear but giving that lovely liney thingybob that goes on all around the tower. This really is sex. I only wish the cooling vents on the podium could've been concealed on top instead of where they are. If the glass was put in as like the other 2 or 3 levels, it'd be bob on.

The thing that strikes me the most is the colour, and the apparent variance in the glass opacity... and the colour. Did I mention the colour? I love it.

The colour and cladding just really reminds me of the Eureka building in Oz (too inebriated to remember where exactly, Melbourne?). Although obviously nothing like eachother, I love how the colourful cladding just sets it apart and allows you to watch it blend into the sky. You have to be a wee drunken tramp living inside my head to really understand where I'm coming from, but this tower is just going to be beautiful for Manc. It'll look moody in grey skies yet super mega funky happy in clear blue or cloud laden sky.

Where those dark panels are on the front though. I reckon that'll be signage, if not ventilation, but I think they should construct some massive blue glass tits to set her off.

Have you lot not heard of self - cleaning glass? Made just down the road in St Helens.
Of course Longy, sure we have, forgot about the 'self-cleaning' glass, whatever you say Longy.... ;)

Like this

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y88/faggotbrain/tits.jpg

Yeah self cleaning glass - thats what i said.

http://www.pilkington.com/International+Products/Activ/uk/english/activ+uk+home.htm

Close up

http://freake.demon.co.uk/sscpics/man094.jpg

Still think it is mounted too close to the edge for a window cleaners crane, first saw it from Robinsons Timber just off Eccles New Road which is almost side on to Beetham and it looked to be right on the edge. I don't think you can clean windows from a cradle suspended from a single cable, as a simple gust of wind could send you spinning out of control against the glass side of the building.
As an aside I would like to thank all the people who bought wireless routers from PC world and just plugged them in, from taking the pictures to having them on SSC took no more than 20 minutes. When the words Belkin 54G flash up on the PowerBook you know you have bandwidth.

Yes DJ!!!! thats how its done...

Ive been using nextdoors 2mb unlimited net connection for a good few months now...There non the wiser :lol:

Yeah self cleaning glass - thats what i said.

http://www.pilkington.com/International+Products/Activ/uk/english/activ+uk+home.htm
How does it work? Pray tell us....we'll promise not to laff...honest...

Your arrogance is only matched by your ignorance.
Why dont you click on the link and let the nice people at Pilkingtons explain it to you!
I'll put the humble pie in the oven now shall i? It'll be ready for you all soon!

They mock that which they do not understand, Longford.

I've never seen a building that tall with a window cleaning crane, it would be like painting the Forth Bridge.

They mock that which they do not understand, Longford.

Evidently!

This building has got to be the most boring slab of nothingness to be built in europe for the last 10 years!! Hardly the Gherkin or the Twisting Torso in Malmo is it???!!!!

Yeah its shit ain't it!

This building has got to be the most boring slab of nothingness to be built in europe for the last 10 years!! Hardly the Gherkin or the Twisting Torso in Malmo is it???!!!!
Yet you like that other Manc designed tower with its mediocre hieght and dodgy cladding that is called Holloway Circus
tower.You need to see this in the flesh, its breathtaking.Have you?...thought not... how ignorant

Its design may not be unusual but that doesn't mean its not breathtaking to look at. Also the overhang is a nice, interesting feature which I don't think is appreciated enough. I don't know if I've said this before but in my opinion the best view of Beetham can be found in the square outside the Gmex. Having the Gmex, GN tower and Beetham so close to each other looks amazing.

I don't know if I've said this before but in my opinion the best view of Beetham can be found in the square outside the Gmex.

I was going to say the same thing the other day, it is a great view and the way they play together is fab... Luck or design? Discuss.....

:)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/jrb041067/Picture0701.jpg


Im liking the visual play of the random coloured vertical strips on the Beetham against the vertical brick detailing revealed by the Sun. Should be plenty of these interesting visuals to come with this exciting building.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y139/rolybling/MAN2.jpg

I dont think the relationship between GN and Beetham was intentional, more coincidence,but it is great sight from Albert sq.

lets not forget those horizontal white stripes mostly on the lower part but also some above the skybar will be gone, thats just paper, its all vertical stripes/strips when its finished.