Can't be arsed doing an intro thing this time. We've all seen the renders plenty by now.

New photos from today

Our tallest from 1858-1877, with our tallest from 2006 to.....2008?
http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/833St.MarysChurch_pic2.jpg

From deepest darkest Whalley Range
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b292/caw1234/P6270001.jpg

From Hulme High Street, that taxi sped through the red light
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b292/caw1234/P6270016.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b292/caw1234/P6270026.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b292/caw1234/P6270037.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b292/caw1234/P6270041.jpg

Be careful lads
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b292/caw1234/P6270042.jpg

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Great pics caw. You would'nt see me pulling that cladding in from that height. I love skyscrapers, but the strange thing is i'm shit scared of heights.

They wear no harnesses? Crazy....

I'm pretty sure they'll be harnessed, lol..

Fantastic pics, loads of cladding to marvel at now, she just keeps on growing, even though we know the height, its still weird wondering how many more she can go up in a way..it looks so clean, fresh and new..superb.

great pics Chris, its a wonder i didnt bump into you today , looks like you've been to the same spots ive been to.

From deepest darkest Whalley Range
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b292/caw1234/P6270001.jpg

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Yeah Whalley Range looks like hell in that pic, who in their right mind would want to live there? DOH! :bash: ME :runaway:

That last pics wicked, careful indeed

Imagine the view from Hulme High St when its finished on a sunny day like today, ahhhhhhhhh just warms the cockles, the kids that grow up round there are gonna love this tower they have arguabley the best view from outside town IMO, the photo opportunities from that street and all over Hulme are gonna be immense, the view from Hulme Park is just as spectacular, just wait til its finished.

Yeah Whalley Range looks like hell in that pic, who in their right mind would want to live there? DOH! :bash: ME :runaway:

The houses look alright but look at the scum who roam through it from neighbouring areas. Probably one of the dodgiest areas of manc at night. Actually saw the police pull up in a van, run in a house and arrest some guy while I walked down Alexandra Road. :runaway:

Some photos from today

From Oldfield Road
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b292/caw1234/P6280027.jpg

BIG
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b292/caw1234/P6280032.jpg

Down D'gate
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b292/caw1234/P6280039.jpg

Funny how perspective proportions works isn't it? Looking onto the narrow end it looks huge. Looking onto the rump it doesn't.

Walked right towards it on Sunday along Deansgate and it didn't look as impressive as when I was at the bottom of Liverpool Street thin side on.

Look at caws last picture then look at this.

http://img257.echo.cx/img257/1938/hilton4yl.jpg

Cant wait!!!

Also are they having that sign Hilton @ Manchester?

Have the Dokas risen recently? when was the last time they did? is it just me or has activity seemed to slow down a bit recently?

its got a long way to go yet, went all round it yesterday, we needn't worry I don't think. In Caws last pic, from top of scaffold (NOT DOKA) theres about the same height again still to be built, its not looking taller coz they are just building the shafts but slowly its gonna start to get really high. yippeeeee

they are bound to have that Hilton Manchester sign, actually i'd say on caws pic that scaffold is about the height of that sign or a couple of floors above not many, so still quite a bit to go, its hard to tell even though the dokas higher coz they haven't built the floors yet.

They still haven't replaced the two smashed panes of glass to the left and above of the entrance.

I need to get down to town with my camera sometime again soon, I'm just too fat and lazy though, even if it is just 10 minutes on the bus *sigh* it's looking great, though, fabulous pictures once again caw :D I was sat in the car with my Nana and Grandad today, driving through town and pointing out all the new developments like Beetham and explaining to them what was happening and what was going up, sad but true- I felt quite a well of pride too, *gulp*

[Salutes!]

Just a few more months to top out?

End of this year for top out I reckon.

Couple more
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b292/caw1234/P6290033.jpg

From Oldham Road
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b292/caw1234/P6290015.jpg

Look at caws last picture then look at this.

Also are they having that sign Hilton @ Manchester?

It's not an '@' its their H in a circle logo

those last couple of pics are great caw, especially the first one, really looks a biggy from there, imagine when its at full height, hope your right about it topping out by the end of this year, you realise we will have to shoot you if it doesn't.

Beetham from the M60
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b292/caw1234/P6300028.jpg

is it the tallest building in manchester yet?

they are bound to have that Hilton Manchester sign,

No that was put on the render at the last minute to appease clients! If you look about there are renders without the signage, there is a health centre on that floor and I havent seen any plans for signage there, plus I think everyone will know what it is by the time it reaches the top ;)

Size wise as of the 21st of June, 107 metres so still not the tallest yet, 118 to beat :D

Any idea where that is measured to exactly? The last section of fully set concrete?

The DOKA is 12-15m tall, so depending on where 107m is to, it could be taller now, to the platform at least......

Your probably right of course Subtract, but I can't see Hilton having such a flagship hotel without such a sign, or something similar? I'm gonna stick my neck out and say I reckon there will be a sign like that, we'll find out soon enough I suppose.

Re tallest building in Manchester, this distant picture of dj's taken on 27th June suggests it's got a bit to go yet. Hold up a piece of paper to get a horizontal, then tilt the left side down a little so it's parallel-ish with the ridge where the TV tower is. It's hard to judge exactly, but it's maybe the height of the doka below the top of the CIS.

http://www.freake.demon.co.uk/image/b019.jpg

Good pic dj, this doesn't count as plagiarising does it?

Though that image is a little slanted to the left, making the buildings on the right appear higher.

Also, Beetham is on lower ground than much of the city centre, so that would also knock a few metres off. On that image, Sunley clearly seems to be higher than Beetham, but it isn't, Beetham was 107m on June 21st. I'd say the top of the DOKA is now at least equal to CIS.

Edit: According to a few quick calculations going off a beetham elevation, the core is 105m to the point beneath the DOKA(but higher when you count the core within, as Subtracts 107m does), with the DOKA being 12-15m, it is possibly higher than CIS. Next lift will make it pretty much certain. Lift after, it is certainly higher than HCT.

Then again this is DOKA, not actual building.

It might soon be the tallest structure in Manchester, but it isn't the tallest building. Surely it will only have that title once finished.

Next lift, caw. Give it time.

It looks to me that they are waiting for the floorplates to catch up with the cores as they are taking longer because of the larger floorspace.The smaller core needs to rise soon as the floorplates are almost to the doka.Hurry up carrillian I am getting impatiant now :)

I said in the other thread before this, it wont be they are waiting. Why would you wait time is money to these people. They will have loads of problems to deal with and also the floor plates are bigger and take longer.

Your probably right of course Subtract, but I can't see Hilton having such a flagship hotel without such a sign, or something similar? I'm gonna stick my neck out and say I reckon there will be a sign like that, we'll find out soon enough I suppose.

Well to my knowledge theres nothing up there to attach it too as its just glass, they couldnt do it inside as it would lose impact from the glazing. There will be a sign at the hotel entrance which can be seen from the Liverpool st entrance and they might do something on the glass under the podium but I havent seen any plans or requests to fit anything up there. I think Ian wouldnt be too happy with a sign stuck on the side but we shall see....

Size update as of July 1st

Core 2 - 111 metres
Core 1 - 97 metres
Slab - Floor 26

I guess BTM will be the Tallest Structure in Manchester, its not really a building until its functional but when we reach that point Ill go up and take some more aerial shots

Subtract, can't Hilton do what they want with their part of the building once they take the keys to the door? Subject to planning approval of course?

Who are the fitters for Hilton BTW? Or have they not put that out to tender yet?

Hilton are leasing the property from Beetham as far as I am aware. I'd guess that the signage is likely to be limited to the Concrete canopy at street level.

I saw some huge boxes being delivered to the site the other day, on the side it said "Bathroom Pods" , have they started fitting out the lower floors already?

There are bathroom pods in most of the hotel floors already, you see them inside the floors above the cladding here:
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b292/caw1234/P6270037.jpg

Subtract, can't Hilton do what they want with their part of the building once they take the keys to the door? Subject to planning approval of course?

Who are the fitters for Hilton BTW? Or have they not put that out to tender yet?


Jerv is correct, the building isnt Hiltons and the impact of a sign that big would have to go to planning. again there is nothing to actually fix it to that high up, the original visual didnt have that signage on and was only put on for presentatation purposes but seems to be used a lot now but as they will own the Skybar/Health Centre i guess they might apply some internal signage the glazing.

@Highriser they started fitting out the rooms months ago! Ive already been into one which is nearly fully fitted out, the bathrooms are the blue boxes you can see, I doubt ill be aloud to publish any pics of the interiors yet but maybe the corridors

@Highriser they started fitting out the rooms months ago! Ive already been into one which is nearly fully fitted out, the bathrooms are the blue boxes you can see, I doubt ill be aloud to publish any pics of the interiors yet but maybe the corridors

So if the bathrooms are pre built pods then does that mean they need to be craned in. In which case i guess they can only put up the cladding when that floor has been podded.

So if the bathrooms are pre built pods then does that mean they need to be craned in. In which case i guess they can only put up the cladding when that floor has been podded.


As you can see from all of the pics though many floors above the cladding have the pods already in, they have been in for months so there would be no worries in them delaying the cladding.

I simply can't wait for this building, I'm going to take back all the concerns I had in the early building stages as I think the quality of it is superb. One of my main worries was apart from it not being quite tall enough for my liking (but thats just me being daft) was that in the renders it looked a bit plastic, I was worried the quality wouldn't be up to scratch which does happen now and again with tall buildings and that would have been a disaster.Im more than happy with it now though, now I can see it all coming together, its going to be fantastic when its finished, a quality skyscraping addition to our skyline, can't wait.

I love the view from the west side. It is incredibly slim when you see the perpendicular view from a distance.

Anyone notice the cranes Sway from side to to side now an again...? I was kind of worried yesterday...

Anyone notice the cranes Sway from side to to side now an again...? I was kind of worried yesterday...
The cranes will be designed to flex in high winds.I woudnt worry too much. Beethem tower itself will have a fair bit of flexing designed into the structure ,not that you would see it.I once went up Blackpool tower in high winds and felt sea sick, i am sure it was swaying.The main core on Beetham looks like it has not risen for a month or so.Perhaps they have changed the plans and decided the tower is tall enough now...this is the uk after all :) Only kidding

I simply can't wait for this building, I'm going to take back all the concerns I had in the early building stages as I think the quality of it is superb. One of my main worries was apart from it not being quite tall enough for my liking (but thats just me being daft) was that in the renders it looked a bit plastic, I was worried the quality wouldn't be up to scratch which does happen now and again with tall buildings and that would have been a disaster.Im more than happy with it now though, now I can see it all coming together, its going to be fantastic when its finished, a quality skyscraping addition to our skyline, can't wait.


Thats hitting the nail on the head completely. The excitement can and should be felt as this is going to be something very special. One thing ISA do is create 'quality' buildings, they pride themselves on that fact with schemes such as Urbis, No1, Manchester Museum and Holloway Circus which are all built and designed to a very high standard. This is just the beginning for Manchesters skyline and ISA will be at the forefront of designing quality buildings all across the city for a the foreseable future

This is just the beginning for Manchesters skyline and ISA will be at the forefront of designing quality buildings all across the city for a the foreseable future

Care to expand a bit more?

You know you really want to tell us Subtract!

i think its crap that a load of simpsons towers are springing up or will spring up. we want varied architectual tastes, ok hes a good architect and will vary but only to a certain extent. picaso painted difrent tings but u could still tell that hed painted it, you get me??

one critisism i have of the beetham is that wretched overhang, i thort it was a kind of band around teh building but no its an overhang an i really dont like that. alos the fact that it is just a glass box. i got the impression from the inital renders that it would be slightly rounded at the edges, now that would have been incredible. distinct lack of curves in manchester buildings

(sum looser is now gona list all the buildings in manchester that have curves in.... nut you get my jist)

I was thinking the same. Simpson is a good architect. But after Urbis, 1 Deansgate, Beetham, Crown, Southern Gateway and 2-4 Chester Road, I think we'll have had enough simpson on the skyline for the time being.

I think Simpson, Haugh et al are excellent at what they do; however, there is a danger of their designs becoming a little samey. The Crown Building for one is far too similar to Beetham for my liking. However, all the buildings they've come up with for Manchester are classy, there's no doubt about that. I just hope they vary their style a little.

Possible, but I think this really will be a statement building, the likes of which Manchester has not had built for decades.
Walking down deansgate is already confirming that for me.

Lucky Mancs. You deserve this tower for putting up with Earlybird. :)

Our own West Tower should be making a start some time this month. I'll keep y'all posted. :cheers:

Ive answered all of this in the devoted thread, all I can say is you only see what people want you to see... you havent seen what I have seen and its isnt all similar. yes theres a style, thats architecture and ISA have never ever set out to create wacky designs, they set out building commercial structures and have progressed.

Beetham is a statement for Manchester just like Urbis was and the Sourthern gateway will be the same.

Oh and trust me theres a lot of curves, i listed this before but look at Holloway, Brunswick, Urbis, Altringham and loads more with curves so please dont focus on one scheme and then stereotype all of them as its not 100% true also remember some clients actually demand certain types of building, you dont get a free reign on what you want to do and never really will.

Think yourself lucky, you could be living in Liverpool ;)

... Altringham ...

Altrincham! AltrinCham, dammit!

Altrincham! AltrinCham, dammit!
It should be a "g" though! :tongue2: Maybe we should all start writing it with one. Popular opinion and all that.

Do you know why it is with a C?

Do you know why it is with a C?
To be honest, no. It should still be a "g" though.

Originally it was going to be a G, about 1290 (when the place was founded) some local official couldn't spell, and on some important documents spelt it with a C and not a G.

You learn something new everyday don't you.

Do you know why it is with a C?

Because its full of c ts

thanks for checking my spelling, you care far too much :)

Coming back from the airport the other week, as you leave the M56 and go onto the A5103 at Northenden - you can now see Beetham poking it's little yellow head above the trees, just before you go under the M60.

The only building in the city centre you can see that far out!

Begining to wonder if someone spent some time with a map while choosing the site for this tower, as almost every road into town points to it. Here is the view from Ashton Old Road in Fairfield/Openshaw.

http://www.freake.demon.co.uk/image/c009.jpg

wow that's huge! I'm sure it's location was considered. Every Manchestian (?) will see this tower and remember the architect Ian Simpson. Clever scheme if you ask me...

That last pic makes it look bloody huuuuge. How tall is it now, roughly? 115-120m?
Lucky Mancs. You deserve this tower for putting up with Earlybird.
Hahaha - such a shame, but so true ;)

Manchestian
:laugh: Mancunian, Gherkin, Mancunian...

Manchestian, very funny :laugh:

Great pic dj, i know what you mean about the location ,i go down Hyde Rd most days into the city and its right in line

[QUOTE=The Boy David]That last pic makes it look bloody huuuuge. How tall is it now, roughly? 115-120m?

The core was 111m from last weeks update and I dont think it has moved up any more yet. To think the fininshed product will be 171m....lovely :)

Well, I see this building every day as I leave the train at Deansgate. It's looked big for a while of course, but today it honestly looked absolutely massive. I don't know if it was because the bright sun was behind it or what, but I suddenly realised how truly immense it's going to look. With the cladding creeping up too, you get more sense of its slab-like qualities.

Brilliant.

A few from today

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y139/rolybling/100_8899.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y139/rolybling/100_8902.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y139/rolybling/100_8900.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y139/rolybling/100_8901.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y139/rolybling/100_8903.jpg

Thanks roly. It looks like it's grown to me. And that blue glass is just gorgeous.

Im not very clued up on posting pics, would these be bigger if I posted them one at a time? Don't understand why just one of them has come out normal size. But yeah it looked very nice today in the sun.

What a beast its becoming, lol.. that cladding is beyond anyones expectations I'm sure.. It's amazing, one question though.. the white panels behind the glass, are they a permanant componant of the facade (like for safety or interior fitting or somet?) or just temporary (cos I've seen em on buildings all the time U/C n never really knew)..

We need a new tower U/C to keep us entertained, I just want this finished now and to see it with a blade on top..

Roly it has something to do with them being landscape or portrait. Nice photos. That DOKA hasn't risen for ages now!

Not sure about those white things, I think they'll stay. Yeah that cladding is absolutely spunktastic, no it is honestly :)

Its quite amazing really when you think...how much higher its still got to go, its no where near yet height wise, by the end of the year it should be really getting high as the second half starts to go up.

Exclusive:

This Friday/Saturday Beetham Tower will be the tallest structure in Manchester, Champagne at the ready...... :cheers:

Those white things on the inside of the cladding is just some sort of temporary glass protection. Although the cores havnt risen a while it looks like the contruction of the main floorplates has speeded up ...there were 2 complete above the step out last week now there are 4 complete

and at what point does it over take HCT?

and at what point does it over take HCT?

HCT is 122 m, we will crack 118 on Friday/Saturday so give another week and it will be over 122.

@Oscar why did you completely make up that last sentence? theyre very permanant and have always been included in the design.

HCT is 122 m,

@Oscar why did you completely make up that last sentence? theyre very permanant and have always been included in the design.
Sorry I should not have jumped the gun. The panels look temp to me and when having a nosey at the tower on saturday I thought some were missing. The same was said on the HCT thread as the brum tower has the same panels and someone said they were also temp.Still impressed with the cladding..... panels and all. Thanks for clearing that up.

Somebody really must get a pic from down Ashton Old Road. Go about 3/4 the way up and for about 400 meters the views are amazing. It looks MASSIVE. Its like an illusion because it looks so big.

great pics roly,cheers mate.

Subtract... are the opaqe panels on HCT permanant as well...because most are now missing and some are peeling off. take a look, its a mess

thanks subby, we'll do an article on it then.

Just had a look at HCT in brum and there are just a few of the upper floors with those panel things left in the windows, most have been removed . Subtract you corrected me about the Manc tower ...so why do you say they permanant .or will they put them back in at HCT...mmm..

I don't think they are the same thing. The ones Subtract is refferring to look like an 'upside down L-shaped' panel which closes off the end of the slab (an untidy detail otherwise) and provides a cill detail for the hotel windows. It is a common detail in glass screen clad buildings.

I don't think they are the same thing. The ones Subtract is refferring to look like an 'upside down L-shaped' panel which closes off the end of the slab (an untidy detail otherwise) and provides a cill detail for the hotel windows. It is a common detail in glass screen clad buildings.
I am not talking about the actual cladding but those square panels that cover half the window on the clear panes and appear behind the glass. Theses are what have been removed on the brum tower but subtract are implying that thay are permanent on the manc tower.Its quite important as they will have an effect on how the tower will look. They are not on the original renderings either....although we all know how the real thing can be so different.After seeing the brum tower I will stick my neck out again and they are temp.

I don't think they are the same thing. The ones Subtract is refferring to look like an 'upside down L-shaped' panel which closes off the end of the slab (an untidy detail otherwise) and provides a cill detail for the hotel windows. It is a common detail in glass screen clad buildings.
I am not talking about the actual cladding but those square panels that cover half the window on the clear panes and appear behind the glass. Theses are what have been removed on the brum tower but subtract are implying that thay are permanent on the manc tower.Its quite important as they will have an big effect on how the tower will look. They are not on the original renderings either....although we all know how the real thing can be so different.After seeing the brum tower I will stick my neck out again say and they are temp.

sorry double post!

Yeah you're right oscar, the stuff they've got there now is not permanent, it's flimsy, some of it is crumpled and has a companys name and logo on it.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b292/caw1234/P5180050.jpg

Somebody really must get a pic from down Ashton Old Road. Go about 3/4 the way up and for about 400 meters the views are amazing. It looks MASSIVE. Its like an illusion because it looks so big.

dj posted a photo from there yesterday!

I don't think they are the same thing. The ones Subtract is refferring to look like an 'upside down L-shaped' panel which closes off the end of the slab (an untidy detail otherwise) and provides a cill detail for the hotel windows. It is a common detail in glass screen clad buildings.
The ones subtract were refering to are panels behind the glass . Which have been all but removed on HCT. Why are they 'very permanant' as he says on the manc tower.

Thanks caw...I knew I was right ;)

To be fair they don't look permanent, but I am just going off the pics posted on this forum. They may however be permanent but wrapped in protective sheeting.

Subtract: Are the 'fins' up the side a standard product or have they been fabricated to unique ISA drawings. Very expensive I would imagine.

I didnt see the tower so close on saturday and from where I was standing those panels looked solid. But i did notice a few peeling thats why I thought it was strange when subtract said that they where permanant.

i'm no expert but at first glance those pannels look just like that sort of courigated plastic sheeting that you get? i think that it is being used to protect the glass pannels while the interior is fitted out, from some of the photos you can see where it is taped to the glass.


edit: its bleadingly obvious!

Subtract must have thought I was referring to the complete opaque panels that are part of the striped pattern.Hope there's no gloating when it surpasses HCT in a couple of weeks lol :cheers:

So he has.

This morning

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y139/rolybling/100_8913.jpg

OMG! True scraper or what! :eek:
The scale of it in that pic is amazing. Thanks :)

the hordings for the building on the opposite side of deansgate now have lovely pictures on them including one of the building which is due to start immenently. Its 'sold' in design but nothing special

DOKA seems to have risen in the past couple of days. rolybling, nice pic mate but the left side is very blurred, is your lens dirty???

Took a few photos today too
A photo vantage point blantantly nicked off Aidan
http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/181Urbis_pic14.jpg

Collossal
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b292/caw1234/P7120050.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b292/caw1234/P7120056.jpg

Looking out of a window in my house yesterday, I saw something move above a group of trees in the distance. Grabbed the camera and zoomed in on the 'thing'. Uploaded the photo: it's the tips of the Beetham cranes. :banana:

3 cracker's there Chris , this building is going to change the face of Manchester so much, more than we already think ,
Subs says this weekend it will surpass CIS,just think of it with another 50m extra (including the blade)its going to be awsome.

Chris that third pic of yours from the Moho apartments, do you know if anything is earmarked for the building's on the other side of the road, the Compass site and that tatty building next door?

Excellent pics caw. Love the third one :)

To be fair they don't look permanent, but I am just going off the pics posted on this forum. They may however be permanent but wrapped in protective sheeting.

Subtract: Are the 'fins' up the side a standard product or have they been fabricated to unique ISA drawings. Very expensive I would imagine.

Right bit of confusion there, i thought for some reason that people were referring to the 'fins' that are inbetween the glass which are very permanant as its been discussed before about their uses. As for originality..... no idea! i pass BTM every day and see it every day but I stopped 'looking' at it months ago if you know what I mean(?) I could never get sick of looking at the building or its fine details but Im currently working on 4 other projects so my concentration & time is elsewhere.

Im gutted that I havent even had time to go to the top this week as the weather has been amazing, ive had my site pass ages and only been on site once! were very very busy here!

Been watching this development since that miserable February 04 when it was just a dirty area with lil to get excited over activity wise.. Now, we're upto this stage, and yet it still seems a little surreal yet.. Its just hard to believe somethings so big and modern is going up in a UK city, in a northern city.. It looks like Brussels or Rotterdamn on them latest pics (well, in my head it does).. Really hard to think that no, this is Manchester.. the new home for highrises.. Even if we didn't get another tower for years, we should be proud to have this.

I was worried when I thought those white blocks might be permanent. Thank god it was a misunderstanding!

Ditto EB, They make it look tacky (well, not tacky.. but, ya know..)

It looks like Brussels or Rotterdamn on them latest pics (well, in my head it does).. Really hard to think that no, this is Manchester.. the new home for highrises.. Even if we didn't get another tower for years, we should be proud to have this.

and whats more is that it's taller than anything in rotterdam :okay:
Skyscraper city 2015!

Chris that third pic of yours from the Moho apartments, do you know if anything is earmarked for the building's on the other side of the road, the Compass site and that tatty building next door?

Not entirely sure but various old crumbling buildings round there have banners on them saying they're gonna be renovated etc.

Im gutted that I havent even had time to go to the top this week as the weather has been amazing, ive had my site pass ages and only been on site once! were very very busy here!

Ah go on Subtract, lend me your site pass for a day. ;)

Right bit of confusion there, i thought for some reason that people were referring to the 'fins' that are inbetween the glass which are very permanant as its been discussed before about their uses. As for originality..... no idea! i pass BTM every day and see it every day but I stopped 'looking' at it months ago if you know what I mean(?) I could never get sick of looking at the building or its fine details but Im currently working on 4 other projects so my concentration & time is elsewhere.

Im gutted that I havent even had time to go to the top this week as the weather has been amazing, ive had my site pass ages and only been on site once! were very very busy here!

Yeah, whatever happened to the photos you took from the top that you were gonna post?

Ah go on! :drool:

THIS MORNING

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y139/rolybling/100_8945.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y139/rolybling/100_8950.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y139/rolybling/100_8951.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y139/rolybling/100_8946.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y139/rolybling/100_8952.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y139/rolybling/100_8958.jpg

Also..I spoke to one of the lads on site, as of today it's up to floor 32 with the DOKA and floor 28 with the decks, still quite some way to go.

Yeah, whatever happened to the photos you took from the top that you were gonna post?

Ah go on! :drool:


tut tut you havent been checking ISA's site!

I put them up ages ago from floor 23, skybar view. Another reason I cant go up is because of the heat ive been wearing shorts/tshirt to work and I have to cover up on site so cant go on :(

LIKE SO

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y139/rolybling/Floornumberscopy.jpg

Wow, I didn't actually realise there was so much left to go.

Some of those photos above - the ones looking up from right underneath the building - even give me a slightly dizzy feeling.

A bit off roly.

Counting the ground floor as floor 1, each label you've put on is a floor too low. Ie. your floor 19 is actually floor 18. And using the UK method thats floor 17!

The first overhang floor is 24(23 UK). So the highest floor enclosed by the scaffolding is 27(26). That should fill my recommended daily amount of pedantism. :crazy:

I count 34 floors under the DOKA... there's six floors of core if you look at the first pic you posted.

Xtremegamer, there are actually 7 floors between the slabs and the dokas, one is hidden by the perspective. That means the core is upto 34(33 UK). Last fully enclosed slab - 27th floor(26 UK)

:crazy:

how can it be a bit off? I am more inclined to listen to someone on site than someone who just posts on some forum, the guy said 32 who are we to argue? Im sure he knows what he's talking about. So many experts in here.

It's a bit off, errmmm, because it is. I've got a foolproof method for being 100% right on this - counting the floors. :crazy:

Look. Your photo from today clearly shows that there are four slab floors over the overhang. Don't be fooled by the overhanging scaffolding below these 4 floors, that's not an overhang floor.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y139/rolybling/100_8945.jpg

My photo from yesterday shows the same four slab floors, and 7 core floors above that, plus an 8th inside the DOKA.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b292/caw1234/P7120056.jpg

Using the Beetham elevation sent to me my jcg I've just drawn a crap thing showing this situation.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b292/caw1234/BEETHAMELEVATION.jpg

It's got four slab floors above the overhang, and seven core floors above this. You can see the floor count on the left hand side. Even using the UK method, the core is 33 floors. In reality, it's the 34th level.

Well all I know is someone WORKING ON THE BUILDING, someone who knows more than any of us put together said its up to 28 floors deck wise and 32 DOKA wise, that was at about 11am this morning, maybe I should go and ask him again but I don't think it will change anything. I'm sure your knowledge is better than mine Caw but do you have anything at all to do with this building? do you work for ISA? do you work on one of the construction teams? Surely its worth listening to the real experts eh? Its not the first time ive noticed you trying to discredit someone elses contribution to the forum.

WOW! There the best pics of it i have seen yet

it is really shooting up


what do people think of the cladding?? i like it - it looks classy

WOW! There the best pics of it i have seen yet

it is really shooting up


what do people think of the cladding?? i like it - it looks classy

I think we all love it mate :)

Cheers for the great pics :)

Fab pic's everyone , she's looking great and no where near finished, AWSOME , i tell you AWSOME. (AS FRED WOULD SAY :) )

Fab pic's everyone , she's looking great and no where near finished, AWSOME , i tell you AWSOME. (AS FRED WOULD SAY :) )
No it's "Awesome, I say awesome our Ashley."

'I can't do that Maxine, me uncle Fred wouldn't agree.'

Great Work Roly.... :)

'I can't do that Maxine, me uncle Fred wouldn't agree.'


Maxine? LOL...didn't she die about 3 years ago or more? blimey when was the last time you watch our beloved Corrie? :bash:

Look. Your photo from today clearly shows that there are four slab floors over the overhang. Don't be fooled by the overhanging scaffolding below these 4 floors, that's not an overhang floor.

What makes you say that? I assure you the lowest level projecting formwork (you call it scaffolding) is for the 23rd floor (24th storey) - i.e. the first cantilevered floorplate with the glass floor sections. Therefore the last completed level is the 28th floor (start of the 29th storey). QED - Rolybing is correct.

Thanks Jerv, I only asked the guy at the site because I just wasn't sure myself, I'm happy with the way this building is coming on now, I still don't think any pics Ive seen yet show the real size of this bugger, when he told me exactly where we are at now I looked up and thought wow...its like nearly another 20 floors to go yet, and tried to imagine said floors on top of what I was looking at, its dizzying

I dunno, I think that I'm with CAW here.

Look at this (obviously things might have changed, but):
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b292/caw1234/BEETHAMELEVATION.jpg

Now, look at this:
http://66.118.185.12/imagehigh/users/WeasteDevil/b/13072005134126_beetzoom.jpg

Now, look at it, there are two protruding peices, each of different size below what CAW is refering to as being four plates. Look at the size of the four plates CAW is refering to, then compare to the architectural drawing.

The bottom most is very slightly sticking out, but on the same level as its floorplate, the one above that (which I think CAW is refering to as scaffolding) is not level with the floorplate of the rest of the building and is sticking out further.

Now, I haven't got a clue about these thing, but common sense would tell me that those two lower parts are temporary structures, especially when comparing them to the architectural drawing. Enforced even more when you look at the height of the floors on the drawing.

The thing that is confusing however is that the part (I think CAW refers to as scaffolding) that sticks out further than the rest and is not level with the rest of the floorplate, on that floor, the height of that looks higher than the rest below it, which could suggest that it is the 24th!

I think only Subtract could actually clear this up.

Today from down Chester Road. They're laying down the decking for the 28th floor.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b292/caw1234/P7130015.jpg

Well all I know is someone WORKING ON THE BUILDING, someone who knows more than any of us put together said its up to 28 floors deck wise and 32 DOKA wise, that was at about 11am this morning, maybe I should go and ask him again but I don't think it will change anything. I'm sure your knowledge is better than mine Caw but do you have anything at all to do with this building? do you work for ISA? do you work on one of the construction teams? Surely its worth listening to the real experts eh? Its not the first time ive noticed you trying to discredit someone elses contribution to the forum.

Come on. Just look at your very own photos mate! For it to be 28 to deck and 32 to DOKA there would have to be a gap of FOUR floors between them right? (duh)
So WHY do your photos from this morning and my photos from yesterday show a gap of SEVEN floors? Your own photos disagree with this mystery builder.
Clearly something isn't correct. Maybe the builder is working on the smaller DOKA and was reffering to that? Maybe he lost count? He said they were upto 28 for decking, well the 28th floor is going up in my pic from 2pm today but isn't there in your photos from 11am, so there is half of the discrepancy explained.

But 32 for DOKA? Clearly not. Look at the photo I've posted above. The 28th floor is being laid down. There are clearly 6 floors of core above this. Explain to me, rolybling, how 28+6 = 32???

And this ain't the first time you've noticed me trying to discredit someone? And what? I'm pedantic, cynical and a perferctionist. When I look at something, the first thing I see is the mistakes. Annoys the hell out of me but I can't help it, I'm happy to admit it. I thrive off discrediting, nay, correcting people. Keep up the good work. But please, admit that 32 floors to DOKA is clearly wrong.

What makes you say that? I assure you the lowest level projecting formwork (you call it scaffolding) is for the 23rd floor (24th storey) - i.e. the first cantilevered floorplate with the glass floor sections. Therefore the last completed level is the 28th floor (start of the 29th storey). QED - Rolybing is correct.

No. As I said in a post earlier today, there is a floor of overhanging decking just below the first overhanging floor and another piece of scaffolding below that too. Presumably so workers can work on the overhang from below too. It is obvious in rolyblings photo from earlier today:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y139/rolybling/100_8945.jpg

The overhanging floors start with the huge bare concrete bit sticking out.

I tell you what mate, you stick to your theories and the rest of the world can stick to theirs, no need to bring it down to playground level. Its only a building after all.

I dunno, I think that I'm with CAW here.

Look at this (obviously things might have changed, but):
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b292/caw1234/BEETHAMELEVATION.jpg

Now, look at this:
http://66.118.185.12/imagehigh/users/WeasteDevil/b/13072005134126_beetzoom.jpg

Now, look at it, there are two protruding peices, each of different size below what CAW is refering to as being four plates. Look at the size of the four plates CAW is refering to, then compare to the architectural drawing.

The bottom most is very slightly sticking out, but on the same level as its floorplate, the one above that (which I think CAW is refering to as scaffolding) is not level with the floorplate of the rest of the building and is sticking out further.

Now, I haven't got a clue about these thing, but common sense would tell me that those two lower parts are temporary structures, especially when comparing them to the architectural drawing. Enforced even more when you look at the height of the floors on the drawing.

The thing that is confusing however is that the part (I think CAW refers to as scaffolding) that sticks out further than the rest and is not level with the rest of the floorplate, on that floor, the height of that looks higher than the rest below it, which could suggest that it is the 24th!

I think only Subtract could actually clear this up.

Apologies. I think CAW is right about the lower level of what I called 'formwork'. It is actually 'falsework' to support the 'formwork' for the 23rd floor cantilever. That is the benefit you guys have of actually seeing this in the flesh. I am going off photos which arn't always the clearest.
I can tell this because the first two cantilevered floorplates have an increased floor to floor height and this can be seen by the zoomed in pic above.

Im staying out of this debate, im just happy seeing it get bigger and bigger (pardon the pun).
Couple more weeks and GN will be poking her head up on the skyline , in that last pic :)

So where is it at then? LOL...im more confused now than ever. Just to clarify, you guys are saying its at 33 under the doka? yeah? ok I'll settle for that, thats all I want to know

I tell you what mate, you stick to your theories and the rest of the world can stick to theirs, no need to bring it down to playground level. Its only a building after all.

No not theories - fact. 34 levels beneath that DOKA. FACT!!!

GOSH, you do take this looking at buildings stuff very serious don't you, anyway ...

^ Just concede defeat gracefully! :laugh:

lol, spirited stuff folks.
And lesson of the day is: believe caw when he talks about the floorplates of Beetham for it is unlikely that thee has spent as much time worrying about it as he.

Defeat? Does that mean your the winner? Whats the prize a nice shiny anorak? OK well it looks like on this occcasion you were correct, it's far too warm for an anorak.

Roly, CAW and Beet are in love, he's been tracking this ever since it was a set of railway arches, he oogles it almost every day. ;)

Nice pic caw. GN tower will look good from there too.

I've also just noticed that the white van has a Preston registration... :dunno:

lol, spirited stuff folks.
And lesson of the day is: believe caw when he talks about the floorplates of Beetham for it is unlikely that thee has spent as much time worrying about it as he.

I haven't worried about it for a single second!

It was the principle, once the rottweiler digs his teeth in he won't let go until the limb comes off or he takes a bullet through the head.
Rolybling said the DOKA was upto 32 floors and that some builder said so. Said with about as much accuracy as a lobotomised chimp performing a circumcision with a flaming chainsaw! And then he defends this as gospel because it came from the mouth of a worker, even when his very own photos disprove this. I just find this frustrating, being told I'm wrong when I know for a fact 100% I'm correct and the evidence is right in front of all of us. And that's the 'EB' in me. I'll argue about anything. Sos rolybling, it was pathetic. :doh:

I'm still right though!

I haven't worried about it for a single second!

It was the principle, once the rottweiler digs his teeth in he won't let go until the limb comes off or he takes a bullet through the head.
Rolybling said the DOKA was upto 32 floors and that some builder said so. Said with about as much accuracy as a lobotomised chimp performing a circumcision with a flaming chainsaw! And then he defends this as gospel because it came from the mouth of a worker, even when his very own photos disprove this. I just find this frustrating, being told I'm wrong when I know for a fact 100% I'm correct and the evidence is right in front of all of us. And that's the 'EB' in me. I'll argue about anything. Sos rolybling, it was pathetic. :doh:

I'm still right though!
I don't argue about anything, just those things that might raise my post count... ;)

I'm still not sure where this building is (not knowing this end of town)??

I'm still not sure where this building is (not knowing this end of town)??


this is a piss take right?

I don't argue about anything, just those things that might raise my post count... ;)

:lol:

I don't argue about anything, just those things that might raise my post count... ;)
typical...

This weekend the tower was supposed to overtake CIS as the tallest in manchester. Has it done so?

I dont know get your ruler out.

This weekend the tower was supposed to overtake CIS as the tallest in manchester. Has it done so?

Yhup, DOKA moved up one floor on friday.

Yhup, DOKA moved up one floor on friday.
surprised this event passed quietly ..granted ssc was down at the time.Anyway, beetham manc has HCT in its sight next ...watch out!

In a month or two I'll be able to tell you wether it's risen or not from the comfort of leaning out of the second floor window at the back of my own house. :yes:

So the core has now passed CIS. That means the top of the DOKA is probably a metre or two higher than HTC ;)

So the core has now passed CIS.

at least i think it has, it sure looked that way when i was in town yesturday, and i think we can safely assume so seen as subract said it would've by now.

That means the top of the DOKA is probably a metre or two higher than HTC ;)
Pardon my ignorance, what & where is HTC?

holoway circus tower, birmingham, 122m (beetham birmingham)

holoway circus tower, birmingham, 122m (beetham birmingham)
Cheers fella. Thought it was a tower in Birmingham (must have been on old message before), but thought that "Arena Central" doesn't equal "H C T" - therefore cannot be a Brum tower!

Cheers fella. Thought it was a tower in Birmingham (must have been on old message before), but thought that "Arena Central" doesn't equal "H C T" - therefore cannot be a Brum tower!
Yes, because Arena Central is the only tower proposed/under construction in Brum isn't it... :laugh:

Yes, because Arena Central is the only tower proposed/under construction in Brum isn't it...

ooooh you slag!

Yes, because Arena Central is the only tower proposed/under construction in Brum isn't it... :laugh:

No.

No.
What a great sense of humour you have...

What a great sense of humour you have...

lol it was either a marvellous joke or a general observation.
Arena Central is neither proposed or under construction so learn your facts Earlybird or i will post a poo through your letterbox

:llama:

Oh btw, Beetham tower is looking amazing! I can't wait til it's finished!

or i will post a poo through your letterbox

heheehe :)

Arena Central is neither proposed or under construction
Yes, because nobody has proposed Arena Central have they... It just miraculously appeared didn't it... :crazy:

Yes, because nobody has proposed Arena Central have they... It just miraculously appeared didn't it...

Yes... now stop being touchy or a poo is heading your way ;)

which is more than what's heading to brum right now, awhhh well hehehe

This smiley captures your sentiments perfectly

:tiasd:

Pack it in guys. This intercity strife is not healthy.

There is a small webcam on the new Beetham website :)

http://www.thebeethamorganization.com/

Is that webcam even working?

Is it dark in Manchester? :)

It has been on today but im not sure how often it updates, it's a shame you can't expand it.

I can see it...

Just a little something to either makes you chuckle or get very pissed off, was talking to a mate of mine in London and he asked me what the name of this tower was so I told him Beetham, he said he was talking to some bloke down there who works in building and he was quote "ASTONISHED" that anyone would be thinking of building something so grand in Manchester. I just said "yeah well, theres a lot of ignorant people in London" Also told him to inform his pal about Eastgate and Crown and the other 20 we don't even know about yet :)

Unfortunately this is still the attitude of a lot of people in London, when will they learn? :bash:

some of them won't let go of the stereotype, their loss.

Oh come on , dont say your surprised Roly most people within the M25 still think we all have cloth caps and ferrets , and live in Coronation Street style terraces, only big developments like Beetham will changes there way of thinking.

I'm not surprised mate, Ive heard that sort of nonsense all my life..lol I just laughed...imagine when we actually have all these towers built. what they gonna say then?

I hate people like that :ohno: They think they are superior and clever. A great deal of southerners are utterly stupid :(

http://www.the-lightbox.com/newpix/beethamtoweraerial.htm

Great photos on that web link Chogmook. Thanks.

I got the train to Manchester today, in London the sky was blue. however......

http://www.tvaerials.net/images/200705bm3rs.jpg

http://www.tvaerials.net/images/200705bm1rs.jpg

I very much enjoyed my day, the train fare spoiled it as it was £55 :mad:

:rofl: look at that puny yellow crane!

^ :crazy:

Great pics :)

Another 19 floors to stick on top :eek:

great pics Mikey,,,shes looking more gorgeous by week :)

Jesus it's huge!

http://www.tvaerials.net/images/200705bm3rs.jpg

http://www.tvaerials.net/images/200705bm1rs.jpg

For those who havn't seen it in the flesh take a look at the top pic of those two workmen peering over the blue cradle thing on the right hand side. Gives an idea of scale.

The cladding is looking tasty :drool:

Coming back over from Yorkshire after a meeting today I saw beetham as I came down the hill on the M67. It looks very, very impressive even on a murky day like today. It looked absolutely huge compared to both City Tower and the CIS. With Eastgate and Crown it'll be one hell of a skyline

A whole week without new photos :cry:

No worries turbo, i'll post some tonight or tomorrow :)

Looking great and liking the cladding. Can't wait to see this finished. :)

No worries turbo, i'll post some tonight or tomorrow :)

so where are the pictures then? :dunno:

A week without photos? >_<

I walked past it today.
It looks like it did last week but a little bit taller.

Beetham today peeping over the Convention Centre

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/ANTEATPETE/beethamjuly1.jpg

She's looking a babe from Deansgate :)


http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/ANTEATPETE/beethamdeansgate.jpg

Looks like them cranes will need jacking up again soon. Only 18 more floors to go!

Only he says, lol..

Looks like them cranes will need jacking up again soon. Only 18 more floors to go!

Cough!

Don't forget the Blade Oscar!

Beetham today peeping over the Convention Centre

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/ANTEATPETE/beethamjuly1.jpg
I think towering would be a better word. :)

When I see pics of the tower there are always two blokes stood together somewhere on the tower admiring the view! Can you spot them on the top completed floor? wonder if its the same two again!

Cant wait to get back to Manchester next week to have a proper ganders :D

I promise l will take my camera!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/manchester/content/articles/2004/11/24/high_rise_living_hys_feature.shtml

Read the comments.

Some real idiots oot there.

I liked this one:

Has nobody seen Towering Inferno? Did Steve McQueen nearly die in vain?

Check out BBC Northwest Today in a minute, Beetham is on it. I think it is on tonight aswell.

nice to see someone got skyscrapercity advertised on the comments bit :) Can we expect a flood of new members?

Today i did my bit for beetham: played my part in getting this bloke out of a custodial sentance.

he was tellin me loads bout the tower:

at the mo wer on 28 floors, the lift goes to 23 then u have to walk up the stairs!

the concrete pumps that pump the cement from the bottom and out thru the doka mesd up a little wile ago but is all good now.

there are 48 floors plus 2 ontop for plant, so its up to 50.

mr Ian simpson himself bought the 3million penthouse at the top!

on the top level of the hotel (the bar level, 26ish i think) there are two oval gaps in the building and u can aparently see starit down, some kind of atrium ting,

theres a swimingpool on ground floor

its 9 wks behind shedule

they work frm 7.30 till 5.30 mon- friday and 8 till 2 on sats they used to work sundays to but had to stop for noise regulations.

the cranes have to stop working in winds over 40mph slowing progres recently

one of the managers was knoked out for around 20mins wen somethin fell of the doka the other day.

now isnt that intresting!!!

Just watched BBC News North West!

Wonder which City is the Premier City and which is the 1st Division!? :wink2:

If the developers want to come to Manchester if their scheme gets rejected, then come on!:wave:

jrb ?? what the fuck are you on about :)

Stirring shit as per usual. :) Still, if you've seen the programme, you'd agree that he has a point. I wish the gobshites at LCC read this site.

Come on then what ya on about ? im bloody intriged now TELL ME

Comments made by Frank McKenna from Downtown Liverpool In Business on an article about the Chieftain Tower in Liverpool. Said investors will be but off doing business in Liverpool, how the council are acting like a 1st division city, and how developers will fuck off down the road to Manc. If this tower gets rejected then I wish them well in Mancland. :)

This is a serious question. Do English Heritage interfere much in Manchester projects?

no coz english heritage seem to have forgotten manchester

^You don't want them to remember you then! :)

So, they have their North west offices there, with all associated income, jobs etc?

Funny that they don't have a Liverpool office, yet stick their fucking oar in when someone threatens to open as much as a packet of ciggies here. Gobshites...

Stirring shit as per usual. Still, if you've seen the programme, you'd agree that he has a point. I wish the gobshites at LCC read this site.

Who me?

You must be paranoid!

I only post what I hear and read! :)

no coz english heritage seem to have forgotten manchester


i think we're a world heritage site?

http://www.worldheritagesite.org/countries/t113.html

I'm skeptical about Mr McKenna. His DLIB outfit is funded by businesses and acts as a lobbying group for them. In the past, when a developer has had a planning application rejected, he has popped up criticising the council. It later becomes apparent that the developer in question is one of DLIB's subscribing members. Consider his comments with the skepticism that one might have for those of a PR company working for a developer.


I worry that McKenna's constant commerically motivated criticisms are creating bad publicity for the city as a whole. Compare his approach with that of the similarly named Downtown Organisition, which take a similar view to the need to encourage large-scale, high-denisity and, when appropriate, high-rise development and is critical of the council's planning department whilst also publicising all those things (the architectural spendour, the cultural riches, the friendliness and vibrancy of its people) that make Liverpool such a special place.

A few rejected skyscraper proposals' rejections notwithstanding there is currently more city centre development going on and planned in Liverpool than almost all major English cities (yep, Manchester is perhaps the one city city that has more) and the most development Liverpool has had for decades. Please bear this in mind.

Not yet, and god help you if you ever get it! Certainly not what it's cracked up to be..

The WHS (smiths?) proposal is for Ancoats, so I would guess shouldn't affect most of the central area of town.
As for English Heritage, ask for Taters and sleepymancs thoughts on that.
Building a dodgy looking NCP right in front of their snooty noses suggests an indifference here at least.

The WHS (smiths?) proposal is for Ancoats, so I would guess shouldn't affect most of the central area of town.

Ah, wait until they start talking about buffer zones! :)

Are they post ironic buffet cafes?
Anything to break the monopoly of Starbucks.

today:

http://www.pbase.com/u03mlr/image/46888081.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/u03mlr/image/46888134.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/u03mlr/image/46888483.jpg

Beetham so far (http://www.pbase.com/u03mlr/beetham_tower_construction_&page=all)

Great pics Matt ,,cheers

Thanks MRees. I was driving home from Salford Quays yesterday and around near the RRG garage, she's already looking huge and slender from up there. She's not even half finished but it's better than I ever expected! *creams*

Great pics :D

On the same theme, I joined the M56 at Hale last week (Junction 6) and spotted it emerging gracefully from the horizon. Which is a good 10 miles from Manchester Incidently, there is a really top view of only the tallest buildings (Beetham, Sunley etc)jutting out from the city centre when travelling along the M56 (manc bound), just as you pass the Post House Hotel in Northenden. Really striking.

The last picture shows what a massive impact this tower will have on Manchester.

if you go from bury to ramsbottom on the Warmsley/Manchester road you get great direct vision of the tower, especially at the top of bass lane (leads into summerseat). That must be a good 20 miles away. looks enormous.

It's that nice it's almost vulger.

crikey that's thin! Don't want a tornado or it will fall right over!

Well done, Matt. And well done on the rest of your extensive gallery too. I've just had another gander and there are some truly breathtaking pics in your collection. My favourite is the one of the Lowry hotel and Century Buildings -- fantastic.

crikey that's thin! Don't want a tornado or it will fall right over!
The floorplates are only just passed halfway too. this will be a gravity defying scraper.The fact that it has two reinforced concrete cores makes it very stable actually rather than a metal frame

http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/1585/beetham9wm.jpg

48 + 2 Plant Floors & the glass blade

Fuck me.

Yeah, pretty much sums it up Dgnr9. Fuck me!!!!!!!
BTW Xtremegamer, great work, where from in Leics, I'm in Leics too.

The floorplates are only just passed halfway too. this will be a gravity defying scraper.The fact that it has two reinforced concrete cores makes it very stable actually rather than a metal frame


This building is all concrete- core and floors very stable, if it had been steel framed it would have simply of swayed too much! probably not unsafe but the residents at the top would have felt continously sea sick :eek:

:)

This building is getting addictive :)

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/ANTEATPETE/manchesterpicsjuly018.jpg

My god what a beast it will be!

http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/1585/beetham9wm.jpg

48 + 2 Plant Floors & the glass blade
:eek2: Jesus I knew it would look tall,but not that tall.

So tall its unreal :S and yet bigger to come.. doesn't bear thinking about really, lol.. Who'd of believed it only a few years ago that there'd be things this big in a Northern city?

Damn, I did 51 floors. Must've counted the double height skybar as one floor. :/

Though the plant floors seem to be taller than the residential floors in the elevated drawing, so it's probably accurate height-wise.

Yeah, pretty much sums it up Dgnr9. Fuck me!!!!!!!
BTW Xtremegamer, great work, where from in Leics, I'm in Leics too.

Leicester Forest East. Where are you?

http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/1585/beetham9wm.jpg

48 + 2 Plant Floors & the glass blade
Jesus.

Looks impressive. Nice work xtremegamer, I counted 52 floors though. :tongue3:


there are 48 floors plus 2 ontop for plant, so its up to 50.


Interesting info. I knew it was 50 but Subtract kept saying it was ''officially 48 floors''

Taller than HCT now.

Jesus.

Mohammed

Wow look at these from the ISA website

http://www.iansimpsonarchitects.com/site/content/shared/site%20photos/beetham%20mcr/images/bm_july_02.jpg










http://www.iansimpsonarchitects.com/site/content/shared/site%20photos/beetham%20mcr/images/bm_may_4.jpg








http://www.iansimpsonarchitects.com/site/content/shared/site%20photos/beetham%20mcr/images/bm_july_01.jpghttp://www.iansimpsonarchitects.com/site/content/shared/site%20photos/beetham%20mcr/images/bm_may_1.jpghttp://www.iansimpsonarchitects.com/site/content/shared/site%20photos/beetham%20mcr/images/bm_may_3.jpg







http://www.iansimpsonarchitects.com/site/content/shared/site%20photos/beetham%20mcr/images/bm_april_12.jpg

Leicester Forest East. Where are you?

I'm just down the road in Quorn.....know it? Nr. Loughborough.
The latest pics are great Sleepy.

Wow the leics massive. I'm originally from Shepshed, right across the road from loughborough.

Sorry off topic.

Amazing photo's there. The CJC looks massive on that pic

Wow the leics massive. I'm originally from Shepshed, right across the road from loughborough.

Sorry off topic.

Amazing photo's there. The CJC looks massive on that pic

And Tates makes four. I'm a Clarendon Park boy myself. And nice as Beetham Tower is I'm sure you will all agree it's no match for the mighty Leicester Market ;)

Just watch out for that Northbeach ..... he's from Nottingham!

Seeing this beauty for the first time in real life was amazing..
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y66/cottonopolis/Beeth1.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y66/cottonopolis/beeth2.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y66/cottonopolis/beeth3.jpg