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fooddude April 27th, 2007, 02:31 AM New York = Hip Hop, Punk Rock
New Orleans = Blues and Jazz
Chicago = Jazz "Where Jazz grew up", House Music, "Mushroom" Jazz (aka nujazz, triphop, downtempo, etc.)
Detroit = Techno
NYC, Detroit and Philly = Funk, Soul ====> into disco
San Francisco = Jazz (all the Bop era stuff), Avant House
London = Trance, Drum and Bass
Brazil(city?) = Bossanova, Samba
Jamaica = Reggae, Dub, Dancehall
...any others?
Xelebes April 27th, 2007, 03:02 AM Memphis = Rock & Roll
Paris = Filter house, Frenchcore
Newcastle, Glasgow = Industrial Hardcore
Halifax = Celtic Rock?
Los Angeles = Gangster Rap?
Rotterdam = Gabber
Milan = Hardstyle?
Manila-X April 27th, 2007, 06:56 AM HK = Cantopop :D
Manila = Manila Sound
Mumbai = Bhangra
hkskyline April 27th, 2007, 07:04 AM Vienna = Classical Music
The Cantopop industry is concentrated in Hong Kong, but many of its singers are not from the local area. Faye Wong is from Beijing; Hins Cheung is from Guangzhou; Edison Chen is from Canada. In fact, Cantopop covers the entire Cantonese-speaking region, which is more than just Hong Kong.
Ian April 27th, 2007, 07:38 AM Buenos Aires: Tango
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philvia April 27th, 2007, 07:45 AM i know nashville, tn is the capital of country music... but for some reason my mind is telling me memphis was the birthplace of country music also
Manila-X April 27th, 2007, 08:11 AM Vienna = Classical Music
The Cantopop industry is concentrated in Hong Kong, but many of its singers are not from the local area. Faye Wong is from Beijing; Hins Cheung is from Guangzhou; Edison Chen is from Canada. In fact, Cantopop covers the entire Cantonese-speaking region, which is more than just Hong Kong.
When I look at it, it's the same with other genres of music. Like rap for example especially in NY, alot of the known rap artists or groups are not natives of NY.
Though Cantopop covers cantonese speaking regions, HK is still the mecca for this type of music and those who made it big in this scene are based in HK.
Xusein April 27th, 2007, 08:36 AM Seattle -> Grunge
Panama (not sure exactly) -> Reggaeton
Xusein April 27th, 2007, 08:43 AM Mumbai = Bhangra
I know almost nothing about Bhangra, but I thought it originated in Punjab?
krull April 27th, 2007, 08:49 AM New York City - Freestyle (Latin Hip Hop)
New York City - Salsa
Cartagena - Cumbia
Santo Domingo - Merengue?
Panama City - Reggaeton?
Jalisco (Mexican town) - Mariachi
Santa Marta (Colombia) - Vallenato
Kingston - Reggae
Ian April 27th, 2007, 09:12 AM New York City - Salsa
Are you sure??
fooddude April 27th, 2007, 09:21 AM Memphis = Rock & Roll
Paris = Filter house, Frenchcore
Newcastle, Glasgow = Industrial Hardcore
Halifax = Celtic Rock?
Los Angeles = Gangster Rap?
Rotterdam = Gabber
Milan = Hardstyle?
Lol, someones a hardcore head.
also:
Chicago = originator of all Electronic Dance Music (aka EDM) w/ House being the very first genre of EDM :banana:
I wonder whos the first city to use Roland 808 and 303 machines, i think either NYC or Chicago.
Chicago or NYC = First to make 12" SINGLE vinyl for higher output/volume at clubs in the early 80s (instead of dinky 45rpm 7"ers; not to be mistaken w/ 12" albums. )
Chicago or NYC = First to use component speaker (tweeter and woofer seperate on PA systems) in clubs and concert venues.
These are the result of new found pop music in the 80s, ala hip hop and house/EDM
krull April 27th, 2007, 09:28 AM Are you sure??
Yes. The Cubans and the Puerto Ricans invented the popular style in New York City and then it spread out to other countries.
Manila-X April 27th, 2007, 09:33 AM I always thought San Juan, PR is the birthplace of reggaeton.
As for bhangra, my bad it's from Punjab but they say the pop version was developed in London
As for gangsta rap, LA developed it but it actually started in the East Coast.
Some of the earliest gangsta rap tracks would be "9mm Goes Bang" by Boogie Down Productions and "Gangster Boogie" by Schooly D.
G-Funk though started in LA :)
ØlandDK April 27th, 2007, 10:37 AM I always thought Punk started somewhere in the UK?
hkskyline April 27th, 2007, 10:48 AM Though Cantopop covers cantonese speaking regions, HK is still the mecca for this type of music and those who made it big in this scene are based in HK.
The notion of Cantopop these days is going through a fundamental change. Singers of this genre are diversifying, oftentimes producing large amounts of Mandarin songs in addition to their Cantonese selection. A decade ago it used to be moving to non-Chinese speaking areas such as Japan, but nowadays the mainland market is too big to ignore.
Manila-X April 27th, 2007, 11:21 AM The notion of Cantopop these days is going through a fundamental change. Singers of this genre are diversifying, oftentimes producing large amounts of Mandarin songs in addition to their Cantonese selection. A decade ago it used to be moving to non-Chinese speaking areas such as Japan, but nowadays the mainland market is too big to ignore.
Yup it's changing and after 1997, HK's focus on China is not business but culture and entertianment.
One thing Cantopop is big in HK but for me, I don't listen to it since I can't even relate to the music. But it's sad that it dominates too much of HK's music scene.
hkskyline April 27th, 2007, 11:30 AM Yup it's changing and after 1997, HK's focus on China is not business but culture and entertianment.
One thing Cantopop is big in HK but for me, I don't listen to it since I can't even relate to the music. But it's sad that it dominates too much of HK's music scene.
Mandarin productions were popular even before 1997. Back in the old days from the last generation, Hong Kong actually had a period when Mandarin songs were very popular and the local hits were not Cantonese. A shift began in the 1970s when Sam Hui started going after the mass market with Cantonese songs about the working class. The duality of Cantonese and Mandarin never disappeared though. Now that there are more singers, there are more albums, hence more Mandarin selection.
The local producers realized long ago before the handover that the Chinese market is too big to ignore.
Meanwhile, Cantopop seems to be going through a struggling phase these days. Taiwan and China have enormous talent pools, and there is more cross-border interaction these days. A lot of the music and movie awards today are regional, rather than purely local like in the past. Hong Kong singers now have to fiercely compete with mainland and Taiwanese singers in the local market. Then there are the Japanese and Koreans as well.
Blindfold April 27th, 2007, 02:58 PM Manchester - Madchester/Baggy, Northern Soul
London - Mod, Goth, UK Garage, Britpop
Bristol - Trip Hop
London/Thames Valley - Shoegazing
London & Manchester - Rave Culture
Blindfold April 27th, 2007, 03:05 PM I always thought Punk started somewhere in the UK?
Punk started in the US (Iggy/Stooges) but it was UK's Sex Pistols that took it mainstream and with whom most people identify when they hear the word 'punk'.
carlisle April 27th, 2007, 04:07 PM Vienna the birthplace of classical music? sounds a bit of a strong statement
Liverpool = Merseybeat
Birmingham = Anglo-reggae (UB40 etc and those reggae influence Brum bands like OCS that followed)
hkskyline April 27th, 2007, 06:47 PM Vienna the birthplace of classical music? sounds a bit of a strong statement
Austria's contribution to classical music and its spread is extremely significant. Vienna played a huge part in the genre's development.
Xelebes April 27th, 2007, 08:34 PM Vienna the birthplace of classical music? sounds a bit of a strong statement
I would rather place romantic music with Vienna beginning with Beethoven than Classical Music. Classical Music began in Brandenburg with Bach.
Anyways, some more.
Donk or Scouse House - Liverpool
Psytrance - Goa
Tribal Trance - Ibiza
Impressionism - Paris
ilcapo April 27th, 2007, 08:48 PM London - Grime/Garage/Eski-Beat/2-Step.
Right?
Xelebes April 27th, 2007, 09:15 PM NY has Garage (Paradise Garage is located in NY).
Bahnsteig4 April 27th, 2007, 09:53 PM NY equals Punk.
(CBGB anyone?)
And is Nashville the hometown or the birthplace of Country?
Bahnsteig4 April 27th, 2007, 09:54 PM Düsseldorf - Any kind of electronic music.
Xusein April 27th, 2007, 10:01 PM I always thought San Juan, PR is the birthplace of reggaeton.
From what I hear, Reggaeton was developed in Panama as a Spanish version of Jamaican Dancehall as early as the 1970s.
If anyone has more info on this, please elaborate?
Puerto Rico is the capital of Reggaeton definitely, but it isn't the birthplace of it.
They did create so much of it, that it seems that they literally made it their own.
Slartibartfas April 27th, 2007, 10:15 PM I am not sure one can say that "classical music" orginated in Vienna as some pointed out already above.
But the Waltz is definitely from Vienna. And it still is quite popular for dancing. And the composing members of the Strauß family belonged perhaps to the first real modern music stars. (in terms of public mass concerts etc)
The Viennese waltz is one of the five standard dances at international competitions.
Martin S April 27th, 2007, 11:16 PM I'm not sure that you can ever say that a musical style originated anywhere as music tends to evolve and often has unusual lineage.
Jazz, for example, is closely associated with African Americans and is believed to have its origins in the music of African tribes. There is, though, the theory that the American railroad practice of staggering track joints led to the syncopated beat that is characteristic of jazz.
My own personal favourite though concerns the origins of rap music. I have a very old book called Shipping Wonders of the World which includes an article on the banana trade in the Carribean. There is a photograph showing Jamaicans loading a ship with bananas and the caption states that the workers would be singing Scottish psalms.
Scottish psalms were famous for being metrical : The Lords My Shepherd / I'll not want/ He makes me down to lie / in pastures green he leadeth me / the quiet waters by.
So did rap music have its origins in the Scottish Protestant church?
Blindfold April 28th, 2007, 12:54 AM Birmingham - Heavy Metal
KennyDE302 April 28th, 2007, 01:14 AM Baltimore- Baltimore Club Music
New York- Hip Hop
Jamaica- Dub, Reggae
Atlanta- Crunk Music
Houston- Chopped and Screwed
L.A- G-Funk
San Fran- Hyphy
Miami- Miami Bass
Blindfold April 28th, 2007, 01:28 AM Los Angeles - 80's Hair Metal
San Fran - Psychedelia
Elsongs April 28th, 2007, 01:41 AM NY equals Punk.
(CBGB anyone?)
And is Nashville the hometown or the birthplace of Country?
NY invented American punk, just like LA invented American metal.
Blindfold April 28th, 2007, 01:53 AM Its is interesting to note that many types of music listed here may well have originated in one place but 'championed' or 'crossed over' somewhere different. An example could be a bedroom DJ who started churning out a few tracks that were then picked up by a DJ to be played in another region/city/country. It will be where that sound first became prominent that will be forever known as the 'birthplace'.
nygirl April 28th, 2007, 02:55 AM For those who think Gangsta rap is an La thing, they are wrong. It started in Philadelphia but La popularized it.
nygirl April 28th, 2007, 03:00 AM Punk started in the US (Iggy/Stooges) but it was UK's Sex Pistols that took it mainstream and with whom most people identify when they hear the word 'punk'. Ehhhh speak for yourself. For me it's the Ramones but I'm just saying, for me.
DiggerD21 April 28th, 2007, 05:30 AM There is a sub-sub-sub-sub-...-genre originating from Hamburg, the Hamburger Schule (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamburger_Schule).
But nowadays everybody could create a new "genre" by just giving the own style a name. Happens very often in electronic music.
Regarding Trance:
The first, Age of Love's self-titled debut single was released in early 1990 and is seen as creating the basis for the original trance sound to come out of Germany....The trance sound beyond this acid-era genesis is said to have begun as an off-shoot of techno in German clubs during the very early 1990s. Frankfurt is often cited as a birthplace of trance.
Blindfold April 28th, 2007, 05:48 AM Ehhhh speak for yourself. For me it's the Ramones but I'm just saying, for me.
Yes it could equally be said that the Ramones were the first, especially their gigs at CBGBs in '74.
Taylorhoge April 28th, 2007, 08:04 AM For those who think Gangsta rap is an La thing, they are wrong. It started in Philadelphia but La popularized it.
Its so weird that Gangsta rap started in Philly as well as graffiti but most people tend to think it all started in New York.
Somnifor April 28th, 2007, 11:35 AM Punk was invented in Detroit in the late 60s by the Stooges and MC5. I thought everybody knew that.
Techno was invented in Detroit as well, Acid House arose out of a bunch of Detroit djs going to to the UK.
dommeltje April 28th, 2007, 12:02 PM In Utrecht (Netherlands) in 1986 the Urban Dance Squad kick's off as the founder of crossover rock, hip hop and rap. Amerikan bands as Race Against the Machine, Fisbone, 311 and the Red Hot Chilli Peppers see the Urban Dance Squad as there big example and founder for that genre. They mixed rock metal and hippop grooves and raps into ther musik. RAC inspired bands as Deftones, Limp Bizkit en Slipknot they all have a dj in the band, the squad did that already in '86. An Dutch band from Utrecht is strange but true the founder of that now populair and big scene.
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Manila-X April 28th, 2007, 05:53 PM Its so weird that Gangsta rap started in Philly as well as graffiti but most people tend to think it all started in New York.
Graffiti starting in Philly can be debatable since those who brought the wild-style lettering were from this city.
As for gangsta rap, it can also be debated with NY. Schooly D is from Philly but later moved to LA. Though he was the first who put the name gangster in his tracks.
nygirl April 28th, 2007, 06:40 PM Its so weird that Gangsta rap started in Philly as well as graffiti but most people tend to think it all started in New York.
Nah most people think both of those were started in La. LA & NY popularized both of those with NWA + Later Deathrow Records / Ny trains covered in graffiti in the 70's and 80's.
Xelebes April 28th, 2007, 07:32 PM Some more:
York - Bleep 'n Bass/Chip Techno
Berlin - Schranz
Momo1435 April 28th, 2007, 08:36 PM Volendam (NL) - Palingpop (Eelpop)
KennyDE302 April 28th, 2007, 11:45 PM graffiti did start in philly so did gangsta rap. but philly dont have any rappers no more lol wow what happened there all garbage
Taylorhoge April 29th, 2007, 02:39 AM graffiti did start in philly so did gangsta rap. but philly dont have any rappers no more lol wow what happened there all garbage
The Roots?
ilcapo April 29th, 2007, 02:47 AM Jedi Mind Tricks.
*Sweetkisses* April 29th, 2007, 04:58 AM graffiti did start in philly so did gangsta rap. but philly dont have any rappers no more lol wow what happened there all garbage
Um you're from Delaware which hasnt contributed much at all. You better hop on the Philly bandwagon because Delaware wont get much recognition.
KennyDE302 April 29th, 2007, 05:39 AM the roots are not all that good, people just throw them out there because they hear other people talk about there lyrics, i'll rather hear mos def than any of the roots
KennyDE302 April 29th, 2007, 05:43 AM wow i said philly started grafitti and gangsta rap and thats the thanks i get? well for as far as i'm concerned philly's hip-hop scene sucks every rapper from philly rap about the same thing oschino, beanie, freeway all rap about hustlin. best thing ya'll have is the roots and there not even all that good so hop on off philly stick because ya'll rappers garbage. p.s i've heard the wilmington vs. philly mixtapes and ummm a few wilmington rappers are better than ya'll best rapper just give us another 3 years.
AM Putra April 29th, 2007, 06:21 AM Indonesia=dangdut.
djrules5454 April 29th, 2007, 06:27 AM I always thought Oakland was the birthplace of rap itself. Seems a Google Search says NY for rap, while claiming Compton, CA was the birthplace of gangsta rap.
Anyways, for folk rock, one of the birthplaces is Hibbing, MN, where Bob Dylan grew up, even though he might deny it (and in the process furthering the stereotype that no one that grew up in Minnesota can be famous). The other birthplace would be where Janice Joplin grew up.
the spliff fairy April 29th, 2007, 08:29 AM London - drum n bass, UK Garage, trip hop, ambient (RIP), acid jazz, grime, soca, new rave, jungle, bhangra, nu-energy, new romantics, big beat.
^ I also thought acid house was London too, the Detroit DJs played house but London bases made it into Acid house and happy house? The seminal party (rave) came in 87, based on NYC's Studio 54 but the DJs used new Japanese technology based more on how twisted ecstasy could get. Correct me if im wrong.
Blindfold April 29th, 2007, 12:57 PM ^^ Trip Hop is from Bristol, innit. Not sure what you mean by 'ambient' but I think its too broad a term to be pinpointing to a certain city without at first clarifying what you mean. Ambient techno?
the spliff fairy April 29th, 2007, 02:48 PM nah, trip hop was first coined by London based Mixmag for a 'musical tendency' that first appeared in the early 90s simultaneously in London and the northern cities like Manchester. It really took hold in and was popularised by Bristol (like Big Beat was for Brighton thanx to the Big Beat Boutique and BB Souffle labels and nights), notably Portishead. Cruelly our press dubbed it 'Brits who can't rap'.
'Ambient' was coined for the 'wordless bath of sound and light' that came out from Brian Eno's London studios in the 1970s. Later in the 1990s ambient techno and ambient house took root in UK (dont know where exactly) and was popularised by the Orb and Aphex Twin.
Blindfold April 29th, 2007, 02:55 PM ^^ Can't argue with that! Thanks for clarifying Spliffy:)
the spliff fairy April 29th, 2007, 04:07 PM :cheers:
Im really impressed by Detroits contributions too. A correlation with urban blight and creativity? Alot of Londons movement came straight off the underclass
mdiederi April 29th, 2007, 06:05 PM Detroit - Motown
mdiederi April 29th, 2007, 06:17 PM Dallas Texas - Psychedelic Rock
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/mdiederi/Misc/13th_Floor_Elevators-The_Psychedeli.jpg
First psychedelic rock album was The Psychedelic Sounds of the 13th Floor Elevators released in November, 1966 and recorded at Sunset Studios in Dallas.
*Sweetkisses* April 29th, 2007, 09:15 PM wow i said philly started grafitti and gangsta rap and thats the thanks i get? well for as far as i'm concerned philly's hip-hop scene sucks every rapper from philly rap about the same thing oschino, beanie, freeway all rap about hustlin. best thing ya'll have is the roots and there not even all that good so hop on off philly stick because ya'll rappers garbage. p.s i've heard the wilmington vs. philly mixtapes and ummm a few wilmington rappers are better than ya'll best rapper just give us another 3 years.
Whatever you say :|
carlspannoosh April 29th, 2007, 09:52 PM As far as I was aware Iggy and The Stooges may well have been the earliest example of what we now call punk rock,but the term punk rock only became widely used once it had been popularised in the UK in the 70s as a label to describe bands like the Pistols and The Clash.
UrbanSophist April 29th, 2007, 10:24 PM Are you sure??
yeah, everyone knows that
UrbanSophist April 29th, 2007, 10:26 PM Electric blues- Chicago.
alessandro_q April 29th, 2007, 10:43 PM New York City - Freestyle (Latin Hip Hop)
New York City - Salsa
Cartagena - Cumbia
Santo Domingo - Merengue?
Panama City - Reggaeton?
Jalisco (Mexican town) - Mariachi
Santa Marta (Colombia) - Vallenato
Kingston - Reggae
Right, mariachi music " was born " in this mexican state, Jalisco !!!
Taylorhoge April 30th, 2007, 04:54 AM The Roots are a good band you just have to find a song that really sticks out.Jedi Mind Tricks also from Philly they kick ass though
Manila-X April 30th, 2007, 05:49 AM The Roots are a good band you just have to find a song that really sticks out.Jedi Mind Tricks also from Philly they kick ass though
The Roots is a good group but sadly, I'm not feeling their current album :(
This is still one of my favourite tracks from The Roots
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chinisimo_19 April 30th, 2007, 06:00 AM mariachi was born in the mexican state of Jalisco , in a little town of maybe 25000 people called Cocula , but Guadalajara is the capital so everybody thinks that it was born there.
Somnifor April 30th, 2007, 06:32 AM As far as I was aware Iggy and The Stooges may well have been the earliest example of what we now call punk rock,but the term punk rock only became widely used once it had been popularised in the UK in the 70s as a label to describe bands like the Pistols and The Clash.Actually use of the term punk in music predates what is now known as punk rock. It came from '60s garage punk like the Seeds, the Standels, the Count 5 and such.
That is where the Stooges and MC5 were drawing their inspiration, they were just more hard edged.
KennyDE302 April 30th, 2007, 07:47 AM I always thought Oakland was the birthplace of rap itself. Seems a Google Search says NY for rap, while claiming Compton, CA was the birthplace of gangsta rap.
Anyways, for folk rock, one of the birthplaces is Hibbing, MN, where Bob Dylan grew up, even though he might deny it (and in the process furthering the stereotype that no one that grew up in Minnesota can be famous). The other birthplace would be where Janice Joplin grew up.prince is from minneapolis
KennyDE302 April 30th, 2007, 07:50 AM Whatever you say :|ok. thanks lol
carlisle April 30th, 2007, 03:11 PM Its so weird that Gangsta rap started in Philly as well as graffiti but most people tend to think it all started in New York.
Graffiti didn't start in Philly... even the ancient Romans used to graffiti things, probably the first ancient Sumerian to build a wall came back the next day to find that someone had scrawed 'Nineveh Boyz Roolz' on it. And let's not forget cave painting.
carlspannoosh April 30th, 2007, 09:42 PM Actually use of the term punk in music predates what is now known as punk rock. It came from '60s garage punk like the Seeds, the Standels, the Count 5 and such.
That is where the Stooges and MC5 were drawing their inspiration, they were just more hard edged.
I personally consider garage as very similar to and a big influence on punk but not punk itself. Mind you The Clash on their first album declared themselves a "Garage band" from "Garage land".
So when it comes to the question of punk's birthplace I think the accolade is shared between 3 cities, Detroit (MC5, Stooges,), New York (Ramones, Talking Heads, Blondie,Television,New York Dolls etc) and London (Sex Pistols,XRay Spex, The Clash, Siouxsie And The Banshees, The Stranglers etc)
Each city played a fundamental role in its development.
Hanshin-Tigress May 1st, 2007, 12:32 AM Where did baroque music start?
KennyDE302 May 1st, 2007, 01:49 AM Graffiti didn't start in Philly... even the ancient Romans used to graffiti things, probably the first ancient Sumerian to build a wall came back the next day to find that someone had scrawed 'Nineveh Boyz Roolz' on it. And let's not forget cave painting.lol ok lets be realistic. modern graffiti was started in philly, anicent enscriptions were started maybe somewhere in the desert plains in africa or egypt :)
chicagogeorge May 1st, 2007, 02:10 AM Lol, someones a hardcore head.
also:
Chicago = originator of all Electronic Dance Music (aka EDM) w/ House being the very first genre of EDM :banana:
Best DJ out of Chicago Bad Boy Bill- Still HUGE!!!!:cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
1989 battle mix dj's---great ending ( I was there!!)
cr5y0dOiRuk
Dj Bad Boy Bill 2006 Crobar Chicago
1bALl4VjURA
Xelebes May 1st, 2007, 04:36 AM Where did baroque music start?
Venice = Opera (Monteverdi being one of the first Baroque artists)
However, some formats we'll need to discuss:
Sonata (literally, a musical sonnet): I'm guessing Venice, however the music style might be older than the modern definition.
Concerto: I'm taking a guess it would be Venice again.
Fugue = ???, somehow I think this is a Germanic music form moreso than a Venetian form. Vienna or Munich would be best bets as those places are known for being the land of arpeggios - arpeggios being quite important in fugue-writing.
Taylorhoge May 1st, 2007, 04:52 AM Graffiti didn't start in Philly... even the ancient Romans used to graffiti things, probably the first ancient Sumerian to build a wall came back the next day to find that someone had scrawed 'Nineveh Boyz Roolz' on it. And let's not forget cave painting.
the certain style during the 70s started there is what I meant to say
gus_chi May 1st, 2007, 05:58 AM Latin Music:
Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic: Merengue ~ perico ripiao and Bachata (Aventura!!)
Although Puerto Rico didn't pioneer Reggaeton, they've made it what it is today in latin popular culture.
Pobbie May 1st, 2007, 07:19 AM Memphis - rockabilly, delta blues
Athens, Georgia (USA) - post-punk/alternative rock
Oran - raï
eusebius May 1st, 2007, 09:08 AM Frank Zappa first coined the term 'punk' in pop music; 'Hey punk, where you're going with that flower in your hair'. On 'We're only in it for the money'.
As for merengue; I always held it to be true that came from French Martinique actually. Reggaeton may originate from either Panama or Venezuela but it heavily relies on vallenato music from Columbia - "cumbiaaaa!".
Taylorhoge May 1st, 2007, 03:25 PM Puerto Rico also was a big player in Salsa and Latin Jazz
Pavlvs May 1st, 2007, 04:30 PM According with Wikipedia, "the only repertory of music which has survived from before 800 to the present day is the plainsong liturgical music of the Roman Catholic Church, the largest part of which is called Gregorian chant."
So, we can say that music that we know born in Rome.
Tubeman May 1st, 2007, 04:33 PM Jungle, Drum & Bass*, 2-Step, Speed Garage, Grime = London (untold artists)
Trip-Hop, Drum & Bass* (Massive Attack, Tricky, Portishead, Roni Size, DJ Die) = Bristol
2-Tone Ska (Specials, Selecter) = Coventry
*Both London and Bristol have a claim, both scenes evolved at the same time
globill May 1st, 2007, 08:20 PM add electric blues to Chicago's musical gifts.....
and an awful lot of gospel as well...
Insomniac May 1st, 2007, 09:37 PM New York = Hip Hop, Punk Rock
New Orleans = Blues and Jazz
Chicago = Jazz "Where Jazz grew up", House Music, "Mushroom" Jazz (aka nujazz, triphop, downtempo, etc.)
Detroit = Techno
NYC, Detroit and Philly = Funk, Soul ====> into disco
San Francisco = Jazz (all the Bop era stuff), Avant House
London = Trance, Drum and Bass
Brazil(city?) = Bossanova, Samba
Jamaica = Reggae, Dub, Dancehall
...any others?
I thought Oakland, CA was the birthplace of funk?
All I know is -
New York - hip-hop/rap, punk rock
Memphis - rock'n'roll
New Orleans - jazz
Chicago - modern black gospel music
Mississippi Delta/Memphis - blues
bigbarcelona May 1st, 2007, 09:39 PM Seattle=Grunge
I'm surprise people forgot about this city and also the movement (or short movement) that they had in the late 80s and early 90s.
Panama was the creator of reggaeton or as we called it Spanish reggae. The sound originated and was introduced thanks to the blacks that were descendants from Jamaica and from there in the 80s it spread throughout the country. Later in the 90s reggaeton was introduced in Puerto Rico and the first successful reggaeton artist was El General. Matter fact, some of the terminology and even sound of reggaeton is a beat that was produced in Panama and used in older reggaeton records in Panama. Sure, Puerto Rico is releasing a lot of material, but is also putting a lot of material out to this day and heard in other parts of Latin America.
Also, somebody said that it might of originated in Venezuela????
Sorry, I don't know who was told this information, but Venezuela is far, far, far and far away from being anywhere close of the roots. Matter fact, more like out of the picture.
Elsongs May 1st, 2007, 10:26 PM In Utrecht (Netherlands) in 1986 the Urban Dance Squad kick's off as the founder of crossover rock, hip hop and rap. Amerikan bands as Race Against the Machine, Fisbone, 311 and the Red Hot Chilli Peppers see the Urban Dance Squad as there big example and founder for that genre.
Sorry to break it to you, but Red Hot Chili Peppers formed in 1983 and Fishbone started in 1979. If anything, UDS was influenced by THEM.
Pobbie May 2nd, 2007, 05:03 AM Athens, Georgia (USA) - post-punk/alternative rock
Actually, post-punk didn't start here but it became a hotbed for the whole college rock scene.
R.E.M. are credited with developing post-punk into alternative rock.
Somnifor May 2nd, 2007, 06:09 AM 2-Tone Ska (Specials, Selecter) = Coventry
But Ska comes from Jamaica, the Specials, etc. were second wave. You could also say LA/Long Beach because that is where the third wave started but I am going to stick with Jamaica.
newyorkrunaway1 May 2nd, 2007, 06:15 AM nashville is home to country music
it is "music city usa"
Somnifor May 2nd, 2007, 06:16 AM Actually, post-punk didn't start here but it became a hotbed for the whole college rock scene.
R.E.M. are credited with developing post-punk into alternative rock.I think post-punk evolved simultaneously in many locations. In the US the hot spots were Athens, NY, Boston, Minneapolis, Austin, San Francisco and LA.
Some more subgenres:
No Wave - New York
Paisley Undergound - LA
Go Go - Washington DC
Goth - Northampton (Bauhaus)
fooddude May 2nd, 2007, 09:20 AM No offense anyone, but, bay area hyphy rapping/sound is the worst stuff ive ever heard. I wish the "majority" of people in SF were more into east coast or la sounds.
Tubeman May 2nd, 2007, 10:10 AM But Ska comes from Jamaica, the Specials, etc. were second wave. You could also say LA/Long Beach because that is where the third wave started but I am going to stick with Jamaica.
That's why I specifically said 2-Tone Ska (as in the record label). Of course I'm aware that Ska originated in Jamaica...
dinomartini May 2nd, 2007, 10:56 AM Chicago- Electric Blues, Gospel
KennyDE302 May 3rd, 2007, 12:23 AM No offense anyone, but, bay area hyphy rapping/sound is the worst stuff ive ever heard. I wish the "majority" of people in SF were more into east coast or la sounds.i like hyphy music i love "the a'z", "the pack", "e-40" but i dont like neak the sneak he mumble. some guy named blu chip does hyphy music out there but he from delaware. he say it in some of his hyphy songs, ever heard of him?
the spliff fairy May 3rd, 2007, 02:16 AM this is the latest thing to come out of London, currently making the transition from underground to over - New Rave.
Its all about the return to the British Rave movement of 1989 (think MC Hammer fashions), but you could easier describe it as indy with 80s techno. Currently spearheaded by the poptastic Klaxons thatve made it to the mainstream (and are now denying theyre new rave):
Atlantis to Interzone
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Golden Skans
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Crystal Castles vs Klaxons - Atlantis to Interzone bootleg mix
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the spliff fairy May 3rd, 2007, 02:22 AM and these are the fashions - dont say I didnt warn ya. Shellsuits, whistles, hoodies n bowl cuts are now all the rage in the clubs:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/19/119288822_f774c96afe.jpg?v=0 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/fashion/graphics/2003/04/14/eftrac5.jpg
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http://images.clickmusic.co.uk/pages/pink_shellsuit.jpg http://www.trashclub.co.uk/401552170_l.jpg
http://www.bigshinything.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/10/205602944_0c5d6e0e02_o.jpg http://www.xlr8r.com/topstories/images/104preview.jpg
dont ask
http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Arts/Arts_/Pictures/2006/07/13/klaxons372.jpg
im so sorry I just put you through this
the spliff fairy May 3rd, 2007, 02:26 AM cant touch this dananananana naNA
French snippet on the movement
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the norwegian version, fuckin ell
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atom May 3rd, 2007, 05:09 AM Vienna-Waltz, Classical
New York-Hip Hop, Rap
New Orleans-Blues, Jazz
Manila-X May 3rd, 2007, 06:16 AM Other than Hip-hop, is NY the birthplace of New Jack Swing?
KennyDE302 May 3rd, 2007, 07:33 AM Other than Hip-hop, is NY the birthplace of New Jack Swing?i always thought that either jersey city, philly, baltimore or d.c was but maybe ny
Lestatlenoir September 1st, 2007, 08:30 PM Just wanna add this:-:)
TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO :birthplace of steelpan, calypso, Soca music, and limbo.
:cheers:
Cobucci September 2nd, 2007, 03:37 AM Rio de Janeiro - Bossa Nova, Samba, Chorinho or Choro.
unoh September 2nd, 2007, 06:16 AM seoul - teen's dancing pop
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_00_deathscar September 2nd, 2007, 08:54 AM New Jersey - the city of the re-birth of rock'n'roll - I give you, Bruce Springsteen.
Birmingham - the city of the birth of heavy-metal
patch September 2nd, 2007, 02:07 PM variations of punk:
Ska Punk - London
Oi! Punk(skinhead Punk) - London
Hardcore Punk - California
Straightedge Punk - D.C.
Folk Punk - Boston M.A.
Psychobilly - London
Anarcho/crust Punk - London
Emo - D.C.
Squatcore/ Crack Rock Steady - NYC
SE9 September 2nd, 2007, 09:46 PM Baltimore- Baltimore Club Music
New York- Hip Hop
Jamaica- Dub, Reggae
Atlanta- Crunk Music
Houston- Chopped and Screwed
L.A- G-Funk
San Fran- Hyphy
Miami- Miami Bass
Atlanta popularized Crunk, but it started in Memphis.
Atlanta, however, is the birthplace of Snap 'Music'.
Moren-o September 2nd, 2007, 10:56 PM In Belgium (cities are arguable):
Electronic Body Music (EBM): bands like front 242 and neon judgement, ...
New Beat: lords of acid, the confetti's, ...
Later Belgian bands were also influential in the Eurodance movement and house.
With bands like Technotronic (pump up the jam), 2unlimited (Belgian/Dutch).
Nowadays Belgian dance and electro-acts are still considered ons of the best.
For example: Soulwax, Praga Khan, 2 Many DJs and Ian Van Dahl.
Manila-X September 3rd, 2007, 11:24 AM Johannesburg - Kwaito
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sprtsluvr8 September 3rd, 2007, 12:59 PM Memphis - rockabilly, delta blues
Athens, Georgia (USA) - post-punk/alternative rock
Oran - raï
I always read that Athens was the birthplace of New Wave...although I doubt I could tell the difference in post-punk/alternative rock and New Wave.
Someone already mentioned Atlanta and crunk, and there is also Dirty South hip-hop. Also...Video Concert Hall, the predecessor to MTV, was founded in Atlanta in 1977 - it was aired for a couple of years on USA Network...is video music a separate style? :) Videos have had a major impact on the music industry.
Atlanta has also produced a particular sound of Lesbian music...or Feminist, Folk-Rock, "Angry Women of all Sexual Orientations" Music. :) I'm not sure it was actually born in Atlanta, but there is particular style and sound of Indigo Girls, Michelle Malone, and others.
Kentucky is the birthplace of American Bluegrass...but its historical roots are Scottish and maybe Irish...
Cabaret music surely came out of Paris or somewhere in France. I think American Cabaret, even though Liza Minnelli made the song famous, has its origins in Chicago?
I'm not sure if it's been mentioned already...I've read that House music started in Chicago and Techno in Detroit.
globill September 3rd, 2007, 03:49 PM seoul - teen's dancing pop
Not sure about "teen dancing pop"....but I do anticipate Clazziquai going global..
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Northsider September 3rd, 2007, 07:04 PM Chicago didn't start Blues or Jazz, but both found a new home in Chicago. Also I think Chicago is reinventing hip-hop in the likes of Common, Lupe Fiasco, etc.
lochinvar September 17th, 2007, 07:59 AM Conchairto is a favorite piece by Edge of WWE.
Flogging Molly September 18th, 2007, 12:44 PM Birmingham - Heavy Metal / Heavy Rock
Black Sabbath, Judas Priest, Led Zeppelin and of course the father of Heavy Metal Toni Iommi.
Flogging Molly September 18th, 2007, 12:48 PM London - Grime
Flogging Molly September 18th, 2007, 12:53 PM Birmingham - Grindcore a blend of punk and heavy metal, was pioneered in the city by Napalm Death.
You could also argue Birmingham was the main city for Dance and New Rave with the majority of the worlds largest dance/techno clubs originating in the city such as Gatecrasher, Sundissential, Atomic Jam, Gods Kitchen etc.
Gaeus September 18th, 2007, 03:17 PM Liverpool = Home of the Pop. Thank You Beatles
Seattle = The Origin of Grunge. Kurt Cobain's Hometown.
= Electric Guitar was also born here. Jimi Hendrix is the reason for that.
New York = Urban Hip Hop was born. Thank you Notorious B.I.G, Public Enemy and Run DMC.
Los Angeles = Gangsta Rap was born. You need to give a big hand to Tupac Shakur for that.
Memphis = Home of the Rock'n Roll. Home of the King "Elvis"!
Detroit = Home of Motown. The Center of The Soul Music.
ØlandDK September 18th, 2007, 03:24 PM ^^
Think there were alot of people before Notorious B.I.G for example...same goes for 2pac...
neil September 19th, 2007, 04:34 PM For Mancunians, the popular musical heritage of the city has always been a source of great pride. The city's eclectic mix of music has created the sense among its inhabitants that Manchester is the most important city in world music.
Although Manchester had an impressive music scene before 1976 (with groups like The Hollies, The Bee Gees, Barclay James Harvest and 10cc, and with Top of the Pops being recorded by the BBC in the city), undoubtedly the key moment in Manchester's musical history occurred on 4 June 1976, when the Sex Pistols, at the invitation of Howard Devoto and Pete Shelley of Buzzcocks, arrived at the Lesser Free Trade Hall in Castlefield to play a legendary gig - legendary, because in spite of an audience of less than 42 people, several key members of Manchester's future music scene were present: Tony Wilson Granada TV presenter and creator of Factory Records, Ian Curtis, Peter Hook, Bernard Sumner (of Joy Division & New Order), Morrissey - later to form The Smiths with Johnny Marr - producer Martin Hannett, and Mick Hucknall of Simply Red. Soon after this gig, Wilson created Factory Records and signed Joy Division. Another influential event was the release of Buzzcocks' Spiral Scratch EP in early 1977 - the first independent-label Punk record.
With the industrial revolution as its model, Factory Records played upon Manchester's traditions, invoking at once apparently incongruous images of the industrial north and the glamorous pop art world of Andy Warhol. While labelmates A Certain Ratio and The Durutti Column each forged their own sound, it was Factory's Joy Division who somehow managed to grimly define what exactly it was to be a Mancunian as the '70s drew to an end. At the same time, and out of the same post punk energy, emerged Mark E. Smith's groundbreaking group The Fall, who would become one of the most inventive, original and prolific groups of the next three decades. New Order rose from the ashes of Joy Division combining rock, pop, and dance music to earn much critical acclaim while selling millions of records. The group that would ultimately become the definitive Manchester group of the '80s was The Smiths, lead by Morrissey and Marr. With songs like 'Rusholme Ruffians' and 'Suffer Little Children', Morrissey sang explicitly about Manchester, creating songs that are as iconic of Manchester as the paintings of L.S.Lowry.
As the 80s drew to a close, a new energy arrived in Manchester, fuelled by the drug ecstasy. A new scene developed around The Haçienda night club (again part of the Factory Records ‘empire’), creating what would become known as the Madchester scene, – the main proponents being the Happy Mondays, The Inspiral Carpets, and The Stone Roses. The history of the Manchester music scene over this period was dramatised in Michael Winterbottom's 2002 film 24 Hour Party People.
After the "Madchester" period, Manchester music lost much of its provincial energy, though many successful and interesting acts were still to emerge. Other notable musical acts in Manchester have been Take That, 808 State, M People, Oasis, James, Badly Drawn Boy, Michael McGoldrick, Elbow, Mr Scruff, and Doves. Morrissey and The Fall still continue to garner critical acclaim while Oasis remain the most popular, having played to more than 1.7 million people worldwide during their Don't Believe the Truth tour of 2005/early 2006.
Manchester's biggest popular music venue is the Manchester Arena, which seats over twenty thousand, and is the largest arena of its type in Europe, with the City Of Manchester Stadium and Old Trafford's cricket grounds also providing large ad-hoc open air venues outside of the sporting season. Other major venues include the Manchester Apollo and the Manchester Academy. There are over 30 smaller venues for signed and unsigned artists of all genres to perform in, ensuring that the music scene in Manchester constantly remains vibrant and interesting. An area known as the Northern Quarter, considered the cultural and musical heart of the city, houses some of the more famous of these venues such as the Roadhouse and Night and Day Cafe, plus various other venues established in various pubs and clubs throughout the city.
Many Manchester bands, and those influenced by the city's musical heritage and unique atmosphere have immortalised it in song - see List of songs about Manchester
Manchester music is currently immortalised by many new bands past and present, the definitive northern resource is available at :
http://www.manchestermusic.co.uk.
irving1903 September 19th, 2007, 04:38 PM Corpus Chrisit Texas !!
Modern Tejano Music !!
Lightness September 22nd, 2007, 02:13 PM Chicago - House music - Chicago - House music -Chicago - House music
But then again house music is so much more than music, it's a way of life!
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