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hayds
April 30th, 2007, 06:36 AM
Which city looks the most futuristic (in order most to least)

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/LPIPOD/BN21888_1~Opera-House-and-City-Skyline-at-Dusk-Sydney-Australia-Posters.jpgsydney

http://imagesource.allposters.com/images/pic/LPIPOD/BN21462_22~City-Skyline-From-Williamstown-Melbourne-Australia-Posters.jpg
melbourne
http://www.austravel.com/images/destinations/australia/adelaide.jpgadelaide
http://www.holidaycityflash.com/article%20pix/perthskyline2.JPG perth
http://www.photosau.com/TQmediaLib/jpeg/200/200132.jpggold coast http://www.luminous-landscape.com/images41/Brisbane%20Skyline.jpgbrisbanehttp://my247.com.au/images/photo_darwin.jpgdarwin

Brendan
April 30th, 2007, 08:31 AM
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Muse
April 30th, 2007, 08:33 AM
Futuristic?

I would go with Perth. Everything is 60s onwards (at least on the skyline).

SEQ92
April 30th, 2007, 08:38 AM
Perth

hayds
April 30th, 2007, 08:40 AM
btw, i just posted the pics (theyre not in any order of preference to me)

laxor
April 30th, 2007, 09:17 AM
Penrith

crawf
April 30th, 2007, 09:35 AM
Sydney

sakor1
April 30th, 2007, 09:57 AM
If you include Eureka & FWP, etc in the Melbourne skyline photo, then IMHO it wins.

Otherwise Perth.

Stu

Pistol78
April 30th, 2007, 11:50 AM
Melbourne

chrisaus
April 30th, 2007, 11:56 AM
none

mic
April 30th, 2007, 12:04 PM
NONE!

Bullswool
April 30th, 2007, 12:04 PM
yeah i would go with none too. Australia doesn't have any futuristic skylines. They just have class :)

Avatar
April 30th, 2007, 01:16 PM
yeah i would go with none too. Australia doesn't have any futuristic skylines. They just have class :)


If Australia's is considered class, I'd rather futuristic thanks.

MelboyPete
April 30th, 2007, 04:35 PM
I agree with chrisaus and mic, currently none of the skylines in aus look overtly futuristic, at least not in the same league as eg. Dubai.

Muse
April 30th, 2007, 06:32 PM
I agree with chrisaus and mic, currently none of the skylines in aus look overtly futuristic, at least not in the same league as eg. Dubai.True, but is the question is relative ie Aussie cities in comparison to each other & not with O.S. cities...but then what is "futuristic"? Our perceived ideas retrieved from television & movies? The shapes, the materials used, the whole shebang? :dunno:

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KJBrissy
May 1st, 2007, 12:28 AM
When the current approvals/U/C buildings get built, the GC will leave every other city for dead.

MelboyPete
May 1st, 2007, 01:54 AM
When the current approvals/U/C buildings get built, the GC will leave every other city for dead.

Good on you for being so enthusiastic about the GC. It's great forumers can be allowed to express their parochialism without ridicule.

As stated earlier this particular thread on which city is the most futuristic can be very subjective.

Cristovão471
May 1st, 2007, 02:35 PM
Though I love Australia, none look futuristic in my opinion.

Ted Ward
May 1st, 2007, 06:13 PM
Yea as much as i am a fan of Perth - the towers are starting to look pretty dated.

I would say melbourne is the most futuristic.

Bullswool
May 2nd, 2007, 12:33 AM
^^considering we have only had (3?) towers considerably sized towerd that have made an impact on the skyline in the last 15 years lol.

JayT
May 2nd, 2007, 12:43 AM
Gold Coast skyline would have to be the most futuristic in Australia especially when viewed from the southern beachside suburbs. It looks almost sci-fi.

Perth would be my second choice.

J

Bullswool
May 2nd, 2007, 12:47 AM
Gold coast only has 2 or 3 "futuristic" buildings. I absolutely love the skyline but there is no way its futuristic. Unless viewed from afar.

hayds
May 2nd, 2007, 04:25 AM
hmm yeah in the context of the whole skyline, GC does lack creativity.

A r c h i
May 2nd, 2007, 04:48 AM
I'd say none of them.

hayds
May 2nd, 2007, 04:59 AM
cool...man...none. way to add to the thread!!

A r c h i
May 2nd, 2007, 05:07 AM
I try my best. :cool:

Joelby
May 2nd, 2007, 06:09 AM
Perth.

Edward
May 2nd, 2007, 12:30 PM
no offence but theyre all pretty shitty pictures. ive seen skylines if melboune, sydney and the GC that look better than those. once again this is not a personal attack but just a comment.

Cristovão471
May 2nd, 2007, 02:33 PM
I just don't understand when you people say futuristic, Most buildings in these cities were built 1990's and behind. Cities that would count are like shanghai, dubai and umm.... other chinese ones.

MILIUX
May 2nd, 2007, 02:34 PM
What about Chatswood as the most futuristic skyline Candidate?

PerthCity
May 2nd, 2007, 04:45 PM
no offence but theyre all pretty shitty pictures. ive seen skylines if melboune, sydney and the GC that look better than those. once again this is not a personal attack but just a comment.

I think they all look good.

auslankan
May 3rd, 2007, 01:30 AM
None

Oriolus
May 3rd, 2007, 10:42 AM
Hayds, once again please note that threads about skyscrapers belong in Skyscraper News & Discussion. The Skybar is for discussing whether or not you've been circumcised, whether you fart in public, how often you poo, and what colour it is when you do (evidently)

True, but is the question is relative ie Aussie cities in comparison to each other & not with O.S. cities...but then what is "futuristic"? Our perceived ideas retrieved from television & movies? The shapes, the materials used, the whole shebang? :dunno:Yeh, no Aussie skyline meets my perception of 'futuristic'. Comparing them to each other would be kind of like saying 'my abacus is more futuristic then your abacus'

zulu69
May 3rd, 2007, 10:59 AM
I'd say Melbourne is my pick. For afar GC would win. So surreal being so long and on the beach.

Pic posted by Grollo

http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/9185/103769185cl1173847909.jpg

Cruise
May 3rd, 2007, 11:44 AM
ill lock in none

hayds
May 3rd, 2007, 02:35 PM
how is it possible to say 'none'...to the question which looks MOST futuristic (hence...the most out of the ozzi cities). That doesnt make sense to say none.

If i was asking which aussie cities looks futuristic..then 'none' would be an answer.

get it?

and yes ive seen better pics too but i was trying to get similar sized pics of each city so none stood out more than the other and thats just what i got at the time.

CULWULLA
May 3rd, 2007, 02:49 PM
you have to have some futuristic skyscrapers in your skyline to have a futuristic skyline. boxes dont add much

nearly every new skyscraper in sydney is the result a design competition!
really gives a futuristic feel.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/192/481374151_ced2253167_b.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/211/475419683_9a6e4d4d79_o.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/222/471089805_828968d1f4_b.jpg

new bldgs with creative tops give the skyline a futuristic feel!

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/243/461374421_a41c5c1009.jpg?v=0

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/241/461375747_42ac8224f1.jpg?v=0

nearly every bldg in this pic is over 200m

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/206/459602454_36d7e03226.jpg?v=0

even our tallest bldg (230m WT) looks small in this view

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/230/458161661_2dbdcd4276_o.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/178/455236389_b6a6faf422_o.jpg

hayds
May 3rd, 2007, 03:18 PM
hmm sydney...speaking of boxes lol. just umm...kidding

Pistol78
May 3rd, 2007, 03:22 PM
I'd say Melbourne is my pick. For afar GC would win. So surreal being so long and on the beach.

Pic posted by Grollo

http://www.realestate.com.au/objects/props/9185/103769185cl1173847909.jpg

This is why my pick is Melbourne. That skyline looks awesome. I reckon that this thread belongs in Skybar.

crawf
May 3rd, 2007, 03:52 PM
None

Wow, even Melbourne

I'm shocked :shocked:

Pistol, If the thread got moved to skybar it would only get lost with all the rubbish on there. So i think it should stay here :cheers:

Cristovão471
May 3rd, 2007, 03:56 PM
None look Futuristic at all!

Perhaps Wagga wagga.
jks

hayds
May 3rd, 2007, 04:00 PM
read the question..."most" "most" "most"

i knew i should have made another poo thread...people get those!:wallbash:

Cristovão471
May 3rd, 2007, 04:10 PM
It has to look something like this:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/2/3175975_0221c35612.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/23/32606683_0397dd5850.jpg?v=0
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/48/128136899_cc5c9e8fbd.jpg?v=0
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/205/460520341_fe21cf6feb_b.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/137/322152193_f1ab23b927.jpg?v=0

K DONE!

Just wanted to prove my point, I reckon we have a long way to go.

crawf
May 3rd, 2007, 05:30 PM
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/192/481374151_ced2253167_b.jpg

Stunning!!, That photo just makes me wanna jump on a plane and head off to Sydney.

CP Doom
May 4th, 2007, 01:07 AM
It has to look something like this:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/2/3175975_0221c35612.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/23/32606683_0397dd5850.jpg?v=0
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/48/128136899_cc5c9e8fbd.jpg?v=0
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/205/460520341_fe21cf6feb_b.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/137/322152193_f1ab23b927.jpg?v=0

K DONE!

Just wanted to prove my point, I reckon we have a long way to go.

Is that first one from I Robot?

Shanghai doesnt look futuristic from most angles. Mostly slummy, commie apartment blocks, Yuck.

Those last few would just look like box central during the day, but they look ace at night.

auslankan
May 4th, 2007, 02:09 AM
Wow, even Melbourne

I'm shocked :shocked:

Pistol, If the thread got moved to skybar it would only get lost with all the rubbish on there. So i think it should stay here :cheers:

There are plenty of things about Melbourne I dont like so it shouldnt be THAT surprising:lol: If I picked one that is "most" then it would be Perth
To me Dubai and Shanghai are two cities that do look futuristic and none of our major cities are in that league.

Girlyman
May 4th, 2007, 12:53 PM
I think as a percentage of buildings that are futuristic then prob Melbourne.

But I will say Perth as its shape reminds me of the city the Jetsons used to live in, very little mid rise surrounding the CBD. Just flat, then highrise.

Tyson
May 4th, 2007, 01:01 PM
if you look websites such as Surreal Places you get to see some pretty futuristic looking cities. Too bad they are all CGI's.

Brendan
May 4th, 2007, 03:13 PM
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Cristovão471
May 4th, 2007, 04:07 PM
No you're wrong.

This thread isn't, "which city in Australia is futuristic?" It's, "which is the most futuristic" Meaning which city is closest to being futuristic like Hong Kong or whatever.

fine then! I vote Hobart, the end.

Nomels
May 5th, 2007, 04:36 AM
Sydney

Austraarabian
May 5th, 2007, 05:03 AM
In Australia Sydney easily. most "futuristic"
If Sydney was not there than Perth.

In the whole World I would say :

Shanghai, Dubai, Hong Kong. Asian countries look futuristic. American, Australian, NZ, Canadian cities dont -

Pistol78
May 5th, 2007, 11:02 PM
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/images/headers/6.jpg

Now THAT is a futuristic skyline!

Lord_Bertrum
May 6th, 2007, 03:26 AM
Hong Kong certainly is

KJBrissy
May 6th, 2007, 05:04 AM
What is futuristic? Glass scrapers? Scraper design? Scraper height?

Bullswool
May 6th, 2007, 05:35 AM
Whatever you class as futuristic :P, I see it as just having different architecture to most cities. Thats why aussie cities don't seem futuristic :p

Cristovão471
May 6th, 2007, 07:27 AM
Whatever you class as futuristic :P, I see it as just having different architecture to most cities. Thats why aussie cities don't seem futuristic :p

Agreed

KJBrissy
May 6th, 2007, 07:29 AM
Harry Seidler screwed that up for most Aus. cities! I'm pretty sure there is a Riverside Centre style building in a couple of cities accross Aus:



http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/4610/p2010013as8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

(It's the one to the right of screen)

Bullswool
May 6th, 2007, 07:42 AM
yeah riparian makes me sick. Pert has one of the those (riverside building) except its called QV1 here.

jellyman
May 6th, 2007, 07:50 AM
Its hard for a city to look futuristic when more than half of the buildings are probably more than 30 years old. Each city has some futuristic spots. The view from post office square towards Waterfront place, AMP and its twin had always struck me as looking futuristic, with something about the angle making the buildings look much taller, although Riparian has somehow spoiled this effect.

I think my vote would go for Chatswood, although my view of futuristic is has a bit to do with my 30something age, and is probably more an 80s view of futuristic rather than the modern view of futuristic lol.

christarrant
May 6th, 2007, 08:37 AM
Extreme looking glassy towers make a skyline futuristic to me.
In Sydney, the view of the Chifley talls from Woolloomoolloo looks somewhat futuristic with Aurora ( curvy) , 1 O'Connell ( blue cone), BT (sharp and edgy) and the side of Gateway Plaza ( sharp and glassy ) there next to the modern looking GPT and Chifley.

Melb's new E&Y tower looks very futuristic too.

Ari Gold
May 6th, 2007, 05:18 PM
Looking at some of those pictures, im glad Perth's not one of the worlds most so-called futuristic cities. Im not saying they dont look great or anything, its just not Perth to have a million lights and billboards on each and every corner.


Oh and its not Perth like to have alot of buildings over 150m as well. lol.

Bullswool
May 7th, 2007, 01:33 AM
I wish perth had the electronic billboards everywhere, it would be cool, and then maybe st georges terrace won't be so dark and misserable :)

CULWULLA
May 7th, 2007, 03:59 AM
Adelaide may not have a futuristic skyline but the new 20 currie st is a futuristic skyscraper and will contribute greatly to the cityscape!

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/6374/20curriestey9.jpg

redbaron_012
May 7th, 2007, 06:34 AM
Good on you Adelaide..that building diagram sure looks futuristic ! Thanks Cul!

Cristovão471
May 7th, 2007, 08:32 AM
The Riparian doesn't help Brisbane look futuristic at all, at first I thought it was from the 80's/early 90's then I found out it was built in 2003, lol.
Doesn't help when the most standing out buildings look old.

And I also agree that pretty much all Seidler's works look a bit dated (no offence)

hayds
May 7th, 2007, 12:23 PM
yeah riparian makes me sick. Pert has one of the those (riverside building) except its called QV1 here.

http://www.skyscraperpicture.com/brisbane052.JPG

http://www.ehp.emeraldhotel.com.au/data/deposit/galleryImage.3906.image/thumb.jpghttp://www.cbre.com.au/services/asset_services/photo/wa1m.jpg

both very similar but QV1 is taller and has a different facade on one side (divided up the middle)..seems to have more detail in it to..or more windows per floor. I like it!

Bullswool
May 7th, 2007, 12:56 PM
you need better pictures of QV1 hayds :p. Great pic of riparian, but not QV1 :p

StopTheWar
May 7th, 2007, 01:14 PM
Stunning!!, That photo just makes me wanna jump on a plane and head off to Sydney.

i hear Jetstar are offering cheap flights.

tic
May 8th, 2007, 02:02 AM
http://www.skyscraperpicture.com/brisbane052.JPG

http://www.ehp.emeraldhotel.com.au/data/deposit/galleryImage.3906.image/thumb.jpghttp://www.cbre.com.au/services/asset_services/photo/wa1m.jpg

both very similar but QV1 is taller and has a different facade on one side (divided up the middle)..seems to have more detail in it to..or more windows per floor. I like it!


That's not Riparian. Its the smaller Riverside Centre (40 stories) completed in the 1980's.

Citystyle
May 8th, 2007, 04:20 AM
That's not Riparian. Its the smaller Riverside Centre (40 stories) completed in the 1980's.

No shite.

hayds
May 8th, 2007, 04:32 AM
you need better pictures of QV1 hayds :p. Great pic of riparian, but not QV1 :p

yea i know!! couldnt find any of qv1 looking square onto it. And thats riverside centre

Bullswool
May 8th, 2007, 11:43 AM
whoopsy my bad, they look the same pretty much :p equally as shite :D

CULWULLA
May 9th, 2007, 12:14 AM
i love what this guy has done to these photos.
gives them a Bladerunner /bleak/futuristic feel

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/189/482552509_edab05c275_b.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/216/482540874_be362d8118_b.jpg

i mean even MIRANDA FAIR looks futuristic.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/124/416289005_0de1b70b19_b.jpg

KJBrissy
May 9th, 2007, 12:36 AM
I drove through the Ivory Street Tunnel in Brisbane the other day for the first time in ages. It looks so very Hong Kong coming out of it it is incredible. If someone who is able could they please take a photo. It is very Residential, but also looks very futuristic.

hayds
May 9th, 2007, 07:11 AM
great pics !

hayds
July 28th, 2007, 09:38 AM
its alive..ITS ALIIIVE!!!:nuts:

Mickeebee
July 28th, 2007, 03:40 PM
That's not Riparian. Its the smaller Riverside Centre (40 stories) completed in the 1980's.

May as well be Riparian...

tic
July 30th, 2007, 03:58 AM
Riparian is completely different top and bottom - middle section is similar. I like Riparian but then again, I'm not as pathetically anti-Seidler as some "purists" on here.

BrisbaneROCKS
July 30th, 2007, 04:54 AM
haha second that. One person likes Holdens. Another likes Fords. One appreciates glass facades, another likes granite or stone. Everything is subjective with design and aesthetics. I for one absolutely love Riparian. Others are welcome to dislike it, but don't disguise your personal opinion about a building with some 'architectural' or 'engineering' tripe, or as you say, self-create some sort of reputation or image as being purists and armchair critics, while making opinion out as fact when it clearly isn't. Alot of the people in the QLD thread like to do that.

Joelby
July 30th, 2007, 08:18 AM
I just plain old don't like it :) It's a blight on Brissy's otherwise good skyline.

hayds
July 30th, 2007, 11:09 AM
its the oppositte of all the glassy towers u have got planned

tic
July 31st, 2007, 02:49 AM
^^ But I think that's a good thing. Love the glass towers - but I also like some contrast. Anyway, like it or dislike it, Riparian certainly has captured a lot of attention and recognition.

KJBrissy
July 31st, 2007, 02:52 AM
May as well be Riparian...

Well the Riverside Centre has been Heritage listed, so obviously enough people don't mind the designs.

Tyson
July 31st, 2007, 04:26 AM
^ But I'm sure they don't heritage list buildings simply because they look good.

KJBrissy
July 31st, 2007, 12:11 PM
^^I don't think I've seen too many ugly heritage listings!

Mickeebee
August 1st, 2007, 10:56 PM
Well the Riverside Centre has been Heritage listed, so obviously enough people don't mind the designs.

And I'm VERY surprised by that.
Did this happen just after Seidler died?

italki
August 1st, 2007, 10:59 PM
i love what this guy has done to these photos.
gives them a Bladerunner /bleak/futuristic feel

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/189/482552509_edab05c275_b.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/216/482540874_be362d8118_b.jpg




What city is this?

CULWULLA
August 1st, 2007, 11:46 PM
^that would be Sydney!

KJBrissy
August 2nd, 2007, 12:02 AM
And I'm VERY surprised by that.
Did this happen just after Seidler died?

It's been listed ever since I can remember (at least about 3 years). it happened before he died.

Avatar
August 2nd, 2007, 02:41 AM
haha second that. One person likes Holdens. Another likes Fords. One appreciates glass facades, another likes granite or stone. Everything is subjective with design and aesthetics. I for one absolutely love Riparian. Others are welcome to dislike it, but don't disguise your personal opinion about a building with some 'architectural' or 'engineering' tripe, or as you say, self-create some sort of reputation or image as being purists and armchair critics, while making opinion out as fact when it clearly isn't. Alot of the people in the QLD thread like to do that.

LOL well architecturally speaking the design was never resolved. Whether you like it or not doesn't bother me, it's still a dog's breakfast. If a plane could fly into any building in Australia, this would have to be my first choice other than star city.

Speaking of futuristic, I too would have to give chatswood a thumbs up. The Vodafone tower arrangement with their unusual crowns and the twin zenith centre buildings really set it appart. When these new towers are finished it will be even better too. Parts of any of our cities give them a futuristic look from some angles. SOH is perhaps a rather futuristic building but over time and over consumption it's hard for us to see this aspect anymore. Sydney from Darling Harbour can look quite futuristic, and the canyoning effect and density give it an otherworldliness at times, something no other city in this country can replicate. The glass in Melbourne helps it from some distant views, as to me glass and reflectivity equats somewhere to a futuristic appearance.

city_thing
August 4th, 2007, 03:19 PM
Thanks to Archibomber for this sketch up...

Perth will look great when everything is finally done.

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/6766/capsq4ub7hc823lf1.jpg

dockman
August 5th, 2007, 01:39 AM
Wow. Perth will look fantastic I must say. So blue... Wonderful

hayds
August 5th, 2007, 08:51 AM
^^ nice, thats not including Century City (103m - will fill the gap between AMP and Bankwest , but probably not seen from this angle ) and Esplanade Tower (120m - filling the gap between Bankwest and Allendale tower) !!!

Ive gotta say the "old" skyline is close to unrecognisable in that render...amazing what a few tall towers can do.

Pozei
August 5th, 2007, 10:36 AM
I call Perth, 'The city of Triangles' because of that tower in perth that has a triangular type roof.

Avatar
August 5th, 2007, 01:02 PM
Thta new BHP tower needs to be taller or perth will start too much like Singapore. The tower needs to set itself appart from CP and BW.

Bullswool
August 5th, 2007, 01:30 PM
I don't think it can be any higher due to height limits? Damn the unreasonably large spire :)

Pozei
August 5th, 2007, 10:47 PM
They should take height restrictions off this might also be why Perth has been growing slower because Brisbane has had like 5 larger skyscrapers out of 30 somethign either plannes, proposed, approved or constructing.

Mpol
August 6th, 2007, 04:11 AM
Perth will look stunning! It depresses me, looking at all of these and knowing Adelaide won't ever by like that. :(

Bullswool
August 6th, 2007, 04:14 AM
They should take height restrictions off this might also be why Perth has been growing slower because Brisbane has had like 5 larger skyscrapers out of 30 somethign either plannes, proposed, approved or constructing.

perths height limit is 299m above sea level. Considering NO towers have been built to this height, it shows it has nothing to do with height restrictions. Its demand and supply, how much land is available and such. I think there is more land with perth CBD and east perth combined than brisbane, hence brisbane needing to build taller. Tall towers mean nothing :)

tic
August 6th, 2007, 04:43 AM
I think that's right. Brisbane city footprint is tight (hemmed in by the river on two sides) so the buildings are now going much taller to meet demand.

Pozei
August 6th, 2007, 08:10 AM
But Perth City's Elevation is 30-60 metres so thats already up to 240m wasted.

Bullswool
August 6th, 2007, 08:13 AM
so lol? Height limits are only stunting growth if every new tower is built to limits and still aren't keeping up with demand. Although perths demand for residential and commercial outstrips demand int he city atm, its because of construction costs, not height limits.

Pozei
August 6th, 2007, 11:52 AM
I think that Perth is a bit like a shadow of Brisbane like a little Brisbane but people like Big Brisbane but Because Little Brisbane (Perth) is developing into something new and catching up and is not as dry as Brisbane has led people to think about Perth.

hayds
August 6th, 2007, 11:58 AM
interesting

Bullswool
August 6th, 2007, 12:08 PM
I think that Perth is a bit like a shadow of Brisbane like a little Brisbane but people like Big Brisbane but Because Little Brisbane (Perth) is developing into something new and catching up and is not as dry as Brisbane has led people to think about Perth.

um? Brisbane is only a little bigger than perth. Also you can't argue that one is more lively than the other, they are pretty much the same.

Pozei
August 6th, 2007, 12:23 PM
Well actually there is a bit of difference infact some better for Perth and some better for Brisbane, Brisbane has developed faster than Perth by about 5 years I'd say and not Perth is starting, I think Perth is only a few years behind Brisbane, I think Brisbane is about 30 years behind Melbourne and 40 something years behind Sydney.

Tyson
August 6th, 2007, 12:27 PM
What exactly are you trying to quantify with those numbers? "Developed" doesn't mean anything, it's an absolutely meaningless word in the context you have used it in. What does Brisbane have now that Melbourne had 30 years ago? Or that Sydney had 40 years ago? Or that Perth doesn't have yet? Were you even alive 30 or 40 years ago?

Pozei
August 6th, 2007, 12:41 PM
I am so pissed off at some of these people that never listen!!
I am saying that Melbourne was most probably like a brisbane back then I didn't say it was a fact I said I think jesus christ!

Bullswool
August 6th, 2007, 01:06 PM
:/

Girlyman
August 6th, 2007, 02:18 PM
troll

Dilaz89
August 6th, 2007, 03:56 PM
But Perth City's Elevation is 30-60 metres so thats already up to 240m wasted.

11m actually

Pistol78
August 6th, 2007, 08:51 PM
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/6766/capsq4ub7hc823lf1.jpg

That image looks fantastic... Exciting times ahead for Perth - even more exciting than currently!

Brisbaner21
August 6th, 2007, 10:53 PM
^^ I can't wait to see Perth 5 years from now. Its about time they get some new talls.

gappa
August 7th, 2007, 12:11 AM
I am so pissed off at some of these people that never listen!!
I am saying that Melbourne was most probably like a brisbane back then I didn't say it was a fact I said I think jesus christ!

Good to see you're making lots of friends. With your next account try being a little less offensive.

tic
August 7th, 2007, 01:14 AM
um? Brisbane is only a little bigger than perth. Also you can't argue that one is more lively than the other, they are pretty much the same.

I'm not going to buy into this because I believe Perth is nice....but, being brutally honest, it doesn't have the livliness of Brisbane. Northbridge and Subi are pretty good but as a number of your forummers have said, the CBD is dead after 5 and on weekends. I know that people there are working to fix that - and that's positive.

In Brisbane on a weekend, you can start at Southbank which is packed, walk over the Goodwill or Victoria Bridges to the CBD where there are thousands and thousands of people, particularly through Queen Street Mall, Albert Street and down to the Eagle Street Pier and Riverside Centre Markets. At night, the central CBD has a pretty good buzz and the entertainment precincts of Caxton Street and Fortitude Valley are very good. It's been said elsewhere, but the Valley probably has the highest concentration of live music venues in the country and is a great incubator for emerging artists.

Bullswool
August 7th, 2007, 03:49 AM
still i wouldn't put it much more than perth, its still localised to certain areas like perth is.

city_thing
August 7th, 2007, 04:25 AM
Maybe we should be talking about skylines here....

tic
August 7th, 2007, 04:26 AM
Depends - have you been to Brisbane? I've been to Perth. I'm not going to start a shit fight on this, but I believe there is a marked difference. But I also believe Melbourne and Sydney CBD's (or large areas of them) suffer after work hours. This is because there is so much office space in the CBD. Brisbane actually has a large resident population in the CBD itself, rather than just on the CBD fringe. This really helps. But Melb and Sydney have great areas with buzz just out of the CBD. Also, in the last 5 or so years I think Sydney and Melb CBD's are much busier on weekends during the day - the nights tend to lose the buzz a bit in the CBD.

tic
August 7th, 2007, 04:27 AM
@ Citything - smartest suggestion I've heard from you in a while. ;)

tayls84
August 7th, 2007, 05:01 AM
Depends - have you been to Brisbane? I've been to Perth. I'm not going to start a shit fight on this, but I believe there is a marked difference. But I also believe Melbourne and Sydney CBD's (or large areas of them) suffer after work hours. This is because there is so much office space in the CBD. Brisbane actually has a large resident population in the CBD itself, rather than just on the CBD fringe. This really helps. But Melb and Sydney have great areas with buzz just out of the CBD. Also, in the last 5 or so years I think Sydney and Melb CBD's are much busier on weekends during the day - the nights tend to lose the buzz a bit in the CBD.

I have been to Brisbane three times in the last 6 years and would say that the CBD is no more lively than Perth's at night. The difference, in my opinion, is that Brisbane is far more compact in nature and therefore the lively inner suburbs are closer to the city centre. For example West End, Southbank, Wollongabba and the Valley are much closer to the centre of town than similar suburbs in Perth (South Perth, Vic Park, Mt Lawley, Leederville and Subi). Also a big plus for Brisbane's nightlife is the cas right next to the mall.

I actually think of the three smaller cities in Australia Adelaide has the most nightlife right in town.

And for the record I think Melbourne has the most futuristic skyline.

BrisbaneROCKS
August 7th, 2007, 05:13 AM
I have been to Brisbane three times in the last 6 years and would say that the CBD is no more lively than Perth's at night. The difference, in my opinion, is that Brisbane is far more compact in nature and therefore the lively inner suburbs are closer to the city centre. For example West End, Southbank, Wollongabba and the Valley are much closer to the centre of town than similar suburbs in Perth (South Perth, Vic Park, Mt Lawley, Leederville and Subi). Also a big plus for Brisbane's nightlife is the cas right next to the mall.

I actually think of the three smaller cities in Australia Adelaide has the most nightlife right in town.

And for the record I think Melbourne has the most futuristic skyline.


Man your stubborn attitude and small dick syndrom is obvious. No need to tear down a city that you really have no experience with because others don't hapen to like your own city. From what my dad's told me, Perth is underrated and lovely. But mate, to say that Perth's nightlife is larger than Brisbane's inner city night life would be foolish, especially as you're also talking about the only night club zone in Australia (from what I understand) at the valley, the James St precint, Teneriffe bars, Southbank's hub, Caxton St, Spring Hill's various pubs, and West End. And I haven't even mentioned the other inner city hot spots like Milton, The Hammo and Breaky Creek hotels, the Normanby, Regatta & RG, the list goes on. While I'm sure Perth is certainly not dead, it was definately smaller than Brisbane's scene 20 years ago, and that gap has gotten larger today.

city_thing
August 7th, 2007, 05:28 AM
^^ Actually Perth's nightlife is great. Especially the live music scene. A lot of places are underground and you need to know passwords to get into them.

And don't forgot we're a rich city and have the highest rate of drug abuse out of all of the capitals. Hence, we're a party town.

PD
August 7th, 2007, 05:45 AM
especially as you're also talking about the only night club zone in Australia (from what I understand) at the valley,

Im curious about this.
What do you mean by the only night club zone in Australia?

BrisbaneROCKS
August 7th, 2007, 05:55 AM
Well don't quote me on this, but I thought that The Valley was actually an entertainment and music zone (that's not the exact title I think but close), and is the only area zoned for that purpose in Australia. We have dozens of bars, cocktail bars, pubs, clubs etc in the Valley where live music often features.

city_thing
August 7th, 2007, 06:01 AM
Sounds very similar to King's Cross and Northbridge...

PD
August 7th, 2007, 06:03 AM
I dont know how great that is.
I mean, an 'area A' could be zoned specifically for entertainment purposes but yet be geographically smaller than a mixed use 'area B'. But yet 'area B' could have more clubs/pubs etc.

I would love to see any raw data on the Valley, compared to say Kings Cross, Northbridge etc in terms of patronage, $$$, # of clubs, size of clubs etc

tayls84
August 7th, 2007, 06:21 AM
Man your stubborn attitude and small dick syndrom is obvious. No need to tear down a city that you really have no experience with because others don't hapen to like your own city. From what my dad's told me, Perth is underrated and lovely. But mate, to say that Perth's nightlife is larger than Brisbane's inner city night life would be foolish, especially as you're also talking about the only night club zone in Australia (from what I understand) at the valley, the James St precint, Teneriffe bars, Southbank's hub, Caxton St, Spring Hill's various pubs, and West End. And I haven't even mentioned the other inner city hot spots like Milton, The Hammo and Breaky Creek hotels, the Normanby, Regatta & RG, the list goes on. While I'm sure Perth is certainly not dead, it was definately smaller than Brisbane's scene 20 years ago, and that gap has gotten larger today.

Did you even read my post?

At any point did I say that Perth's nightlife was larger than Brisbane's? No, I was comparing the nightlife in the two CBD's.

I was in no way 'tearing down' Brisbane and I have spent three weeks in Brisbane since I turned 18... If I didn't like the place would I have returned three times? Also to say I have no real experience with your nightlife is quite pathetic. Especially when your impression of Perth is from your dad and you're using facts from 20 years ago.

I think you're the one with the stubborn attitude and small dick syndrome.

BrisbaneROCKS
August 7th, 2007, 06:27 AM
Well sure you did. No need to get your nickers in a nott either haha.

tic
August 7th, 2007, 06:28 AM
[QUOTE=city_thing;14664491

And don't forgot we're a rich city and have the highest rate of drug abuse out of all of the capitals. Hence, we're a party town.[/QUOTE]


WOW. You must be very proud. I guess you are in the big league then:lol:

tayls84
August 7th, 2007, 06:34 AM
Well sure you did. No need to get your nickers in a nott either haha.

Then quote me to prove it.

BrisbaneROCKS
August 7th, 2007, 06:45 AM
[QUOTE=tayls84;14664202]I have been to Brisbane three times in the last 6 years and would say that the CBD is no more lively than Perth's at night.

I actually think of the three smaller cities in Australia Adelaide has the most nightlife right in town.
QUOTE]


hmmmm.

tayls84
August 7th, 2007, 06:52 AM
Correct unlike Adelaide both CBD centre's are very quiet at night. No mention of overall nightlife and none of the Valley which I find I very good nightspot.

BrisbaneROCKS
August 7th, 2007, 06:58 AM
Mate the cbd here is far from quiet at night. I guess, at the moment, around Mary/Margerate St can be, but everywhere from George St to Eagle St and the Pier, to Queen Street Mall and Charlotte St, there are plenty of people around, and many restaurants and bars/pubs/clubs are open all throughout the week nights. Obviously you'll be surprised when you come back again.

tayls84
August 7th, 2007, 07:05 AM
Ok then mate. Obviously our opinions of a place being lively differ. Hopefully I will be pleasantly surprised when I return.

Girlyman
August 7th, 2007, 07:38 AM
So after all of this have we decided yet whether Northbridge or The Valley has the more futuristic skyline?

Pozei
August 7th, 2007, 07:45 AM
Mate the cbd here is far from quiet at night. I guess, at the moment, around Mary/Margerate St can be, but everywhere from George St to Eagle St and the Pier, to Queen Street Mall and Charlotte St, there are plenty of people around, and many restaurants and bars/pubs/clubs are open all throughout the week nights. Obviously you'll be surprised when you come back again.

I went to the Mary st. Hungary Jacks once at 2am and it was really busy.

PD
August 7th, 2007, 07:47 AM
I went to the Mary st. Hungary Jacks once at 2am and it was really busy.

Wow! You crossed the road all by yourself?

Pozei
August 7th, 2007, 07:57 AM
^^
See this is what I mean and you all wonder why I am rude is because these annoying stuck up people on this forum have 3 million posts so they can do what ever they want, I don't care if your stuck up but don't be a rude little shit otherwise I will be too!

Wezza
August 7th, 2007, 08:12 AM
:deadthrea :lock:

PD
August 7th, 2007, 08:17 AM
Wow! You crossed the road all by yourself?

Im sorry.
I just thought it wa funny because...
well y'know it was just funny.

Pozei
August 7th, 2007, 12:18 PM
Whatever.

NCC1701D
August 7th, 2007, 01:34 PM
I went to the Mary st. Hungary Jacks once at 2am and it was really busy.

God, you must of been flogged...... there is no Hungry Jacks on Mary St !!!!!

by the way, those shots of sydney a few pages back all futuristic and greyed look absolutely magic....

BrisbaneROCKS
August 8th, 2007, 01:42 AM
haha yeah Hungary Jack's is in the middle of the Queen St Mall. Maybe you neded up at the Pancake Manour haha

Wilko
August 8th, 2007, 04:35 AM
Where are the pictures? This is the wrong thread for city vs city ranting crap.

Muse
August 8th, 2007, 04:53 AM
I still stand by perth having the most "futuristic". The other big 3 still have remnants (quite welcome in most cases) of the past visible on the skyline. Perth is all 'mod".

Bullswool
August 8th, 2007, 05:07 AM
i suppose it really depends whatr you calss as futuristic. I would call perth pretty average, but int he early 90s (as it looked exactly the same rofl) it might of been hell futuristic-looking as it was all shiny brand spanking new.

Sydney isn't very futuristic, but when you think futuristic you think big, and Sydney is Australias Biggest.

Melbourne has a more classic feel to it, certainly nto futuristic.

Same with Adelaide but on a much more smaller scale.

Riparian gives brisbane no chance rofl, i can't stand that tower, and it dominates the brisbane skyline unfortunately.

The gold coast is awesome but very dated.

So overall I would have to say that bunbury has the most futuristic skyline. Go the milk carton!!!

Muse
August 8th, 2007, 05:24 AM
I just class futuristic as being all relatively modern. What one thinks of the overall buildings is pretty subjective IMO.

Bullswool
August 8th, 2007, 05:42 AM
ya thats what i mean, it depends on the persons point of view really.

hayds
August 8th, 2007, 07:34 AM
i suppose it really depends whatr you calss as futuristic. I would call perth pretty average, but int he early 90s (as it looked exactly the same rofl) it might of been hell futuristic-looking as it was all shiny brand spanking new.

Sydney isn't very futuristic, but when you think futuristic you think big, and Sydney is Australias Biggest.

Melbourne has a more classic feel to it, certainly nto futuristic.

Same with Adelaide but on a much more smaller scale.

Riparian gives brisbane no chance rofl, i can't stand that tower, and it dominates the brisbane skyline unfortunately.

The gold coast is awesome but very dated.

So overall I would have to say that bunbury has the most futuristic skyline. Go the milk carton!!!


i dont think of futuristic as big,...i think of it as tall narrow glassy buildings. If its big it mkaes me think its been there for a long time ie. has grown over time.

Pozei
August 8th, 2007, 09:52 AM
God, you must of been flogged...... there is no Hungry Jacks on Mary St !!!!!

by the way, those shots of sydney a few pages back all futuristic and greyed look absolutely magic....

Yes I was going to edit my post but i wasn't expecting anyone to do anything I forgot what street it was on but it was in the direction of Mary st.

PD
August 8th, 2007, 10:38 AM
Pozei. Use commas in your posts, it will help us understand what you are trying to say.

city_thing
August 8th, 2007, 11:35 AM
Another one to add to Perth's skyline.

http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/9928/cincity2ck0.jpg

Bullswool
August 8th, 2007, 12:03 PM
wow 4 towers now away from the traditional 2D skyline.

Citystyle
August 8th, 2007, 02:28 PM
Traditional? lol. Um yeah.

Bullswool
August 8th, 2007, 02:33 PM
yeah could of thought of a better word, but traditionally our skyline is 2D :P

hayds
August 8th, 2007, 02:57 PM
yeah its good....decent towers NOT on St georges tce!

crawf
August 8th, 2007, 03:38 PM
I don't like it sorry, doesnt do anything for me

For the most futuristic city, I would probably say Sydney

crawf
August 8th, 2007, 03:42 PM
See this is what I mean and you all wonder why I am rude is because these annoying stuck up people on this forum have 3 million posts so they can do what ever they want, I don't care if your stuck up but don't be a rude little shit otherwise I will be too!

LOL

BrisbaneROCKS
August 9th, 2007, 01:06 AM
I'm not sure how to gage a 'futuristic' skyline. It's a bit like looking for a 'pleasant' skyline. I guess when I think of futuristic, I think of modern or contemporary, with timeless designs that won't age quickly. At the moment, I'd say Melbourne would be that for me, as there are too many 70's buildings littered throught Sydney that pop their heads up. Brisbane looks quite modern from Kangaroo Point looking north, but the current state of North Quarter brings the cbd as a whole down. In 3 years it will start to look alot different with 275 Geroge, 400 George, Q Tower, Northbridge Tower and the new courthouse being built.

hayds
August 11th, 2007, 11:43 AM
...updated with 3 other projects.

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/7412/futurelx4.png

Pozei
August 11th, 2007, 12:05 PM
Sydney has some traditional shops aroudn so its not as modern and I woudl have to say Melbourne is because its very ubnique different shapes and metal or glass materials, Brisbane is also a bit modern maybe a bit more than sydney since a lot of the 1 or 2 storey shops in Brisbane are going to be buildings, Perth is doing well it would've been the most modern city about 10-15 years ago IMO, Adelaide is grey, Gold coast has done well.

Pistol78
August 11th, 2007, 12:10 PM
Sydney has some traditional shops aroudn so its not as modern and I woudl have to say Melbourne is because its very ubnique different shapes and metal or glass materials, Brisbane is also a bit modern maybe a bit more than sydney since a lot of the 1 or 2 storey shops in Brisbane are going to be buildings, Perth is doing well it would've been the most modern city about 10-15 years ago IMO, Adelaide is grey, Gold coast has done well.

WTF?

Pozei
August 11th, 2007, 12:24 PM
http://www.austravel.com/images/destinations/australia/adelaide.jpg
I call that grey.

city_thing
August 11th, 2007, 12:35 PM
I call it kind of purple-ish green brown.

Pozei
August 11th, 2007, 12:38 PM
I meant the towers not the sky dah!

hayds
August 11th, 2007, 12:43 PM
the buildings are more like beige/pastel colors id say

Pozei
August 11th, 2007, 12:44 PM
Thats what puts me off Adelaide its always the same like same colouris boring.

hayds
August 11th, 2007, 12:47 PM
That new one CC1 i think, with ANZ on it is a pretty nice color though and nice n glassy.

gappa
August 12th, 2007, 04:01 AM
...updated with 3 other projects.

http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/7412/futurelx4.png

Oooh exciting! BHP is really going to change Perth. There'll before BHP and after BHP.

Bullswool
August 12th, 2007, 04:03 AM
hays has updated this image in the WA threads, there are quite a few more towers in that shot, and a huge amount more for east perth.

Alibaba
August 12th, 2007, 08:48 AM
exciting news for Perth!

Brisbaner21
August 14th, 2007, 03:40 AM
I have said this a few times before, I can't wait to see Perth's skyline in the next 5-10 years. It will really densen up too.

Bullswool
August 14th, 2007, 03:59 AM
ya the CBD will be denser, east perth will be denser and taller, and we finnaly are gaining a new dimension with the north of the skyline getting several mid-rises!

tic
August 14th, 2007, 04:07 AM
^^ Don't meanto be nosey, but are you South African? I've just noticed that you say "ya" sometimes.

Bullswool
August 14th, 2007, 04:35 AM
no rofl, aussie. Its a bad habbit when im online, i promise i don't say "ya" in real life :p

hayds
August 18th, 2007, 01:15 PM
hays has updated this image in the WA threads, there are quite a few more towers in that shot, and a huge amount more for east perth.

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/6474/futureej7.png

crave
August 18th, 2007, 02:04 PM
need a talley over by perth arena to fill in between bhp and qv1...