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wjfox May 3rd, 2007, 12:51 AM 3 additional towers for Elephant & Castle, part of the massive regeneration going on there.
Oakmayne Plaza West Tower
76m/23 storeys
As well as the hotel and residential element, this scheme contains a five screen art cinema, a retail element on the lower levels and new landscaping around the exterior.
http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/4695OakmaynePlazaWestTower_pic1.jpg
Oakmayne Plaza North Tower
61m/17 storeys
Another residential development.
http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/4986OakmaynePlazaNorthTower_pic1.jpg
Oakmayne Plaza South Tower
50m/15 storeys
No rendering available.
They're a bit shorter than Multiplex and First Base, so haven't received much attention on here. However, the tallest is 76m which is still quite prominent for the area. Furthermore, groundwork is already getting underway.
Couple of recent pics, courtesy of Emma Louise on the SE1 forum -
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/186/479715872_6be723cff0.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/202/479715866_3a3306ab03.jpg
The hideous concrete block you can see in the background (Heygate Estate) will also be demolished -
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2a/NKR_Heygate.jpg
Medo May 3rd, 2007, 12:58 AM I quite like these, the big one has a very detailed and interesting cladding and the small one has an interesting shape.
GreenwichSE10 May 3rd, 2007, 08:44 AM just what that area needs:cheers:
DarJoLe May 3rd, 2007, 11:02 AM Are there any plans for some new open space in Elephant & Castle?
lyonsdown May 3rd, 2007, 12:11 PM I think the masterplan has a long pedestianised avenue of shops and cafes, and opening up of the unused churchyard as a bit of open space.
mulattokid May 3rd, 2007, 12:58 PM I quite like these, the big one has a very detailed and interesting cladding and the small one has an interesting shape.
Agreed!
Manuel May 3rd, 2007, 02:04 PM Oakmayne Plaza looks very interesting. It is quite strange that posh developments (ie : those alongside Battersea Park or Paddington) are totally non descript whereas the ones for less wealthy residents are much better looking.
wjfox May 3rd, 2007, 02:09 PM Are there any plans for some new open space in Elephant & Castle?
There will be masses of open space, greenery, squares, public areas, new cafes and retail, etc. The whole area will be transformed - from a decaying conrete hellhole into a vibrant new part of Central London. It will be unrecognizable in 10 years.
In my opinion this is one of the best regeneration projects the capital has ever seen.
http://www.elephantandcastle.org.uk/
http://i16.tinypic.com/52xqil2.jpg
SELondoner May 3rd, 2007, 08:11 PM This regeneration area will indeed be unrecognisable in 10 years' time, and it's a great project.
Don't forget though that this masterplan is only a concept at this stage; the Council will appoint a development partner soon, who will have their own ideas about the actual form of the redevelopment.
Things like Oakmayne, Castle House (Multiplex) and the Rogers tower on the Park Hotel site are not dependent on the Council's masterplan, however; these will go ahead in the shorter term regardless while the Council regen scheme is being planned.
wjfox May 4th, 2007, 12:24 AM Another development planned nearby. The apartments have sold out, and construction is getting underway -
Vantage Metro Central
50m/16 storeys
http://www.vantage-metrocentral.com/content.asp
http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/3800VantageMetroCentral_pic1.jpg
wjfox May 4th, 2007, 12:33 AM This gives an idea of the location. Metro Central Heights is the white block of apartments at the bottom.
This tower will be the final development on the estate -
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/wjfox2005/London_general/1-16.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/77/254704420_2402d607d4_b.jpg
Snowy May 4th, 2007, 12:50 AM Nice towers (interesting shapes) and an intrigueing regeneration project. It's great to see areas like this and Kings Cross being regenerated.
potto May 4th, 2007, 11:36 AM This regeneration area will indeed be unrecognisable in 10 years' time, and it's a great project.
Don't forget though that this masterplan is only a concept at this stage; the Council will appoint a development partner soon, who will have their own ideas about the actual form of the redevelopment.
Things like Oakmayne, Castle House (Multiplex) and the Rogers tower on the Park Hotel site are not dependent on the Council's masterplan, however; these will go ahead in the shorter term regardless while the Council regen scheme is being planned.
In other words they`ll just ignore the masterplan! The great irony of British planning! no doubt we`ll end up without the park and a few high rise resi's dotted around the roundabout ;)
DarJoLe May 4th, 2007, 12:12 PM http://farm1.static.flickr.com/77/254704420_2402d607d4_b.jpg
This is an old building, right?
wjfox May 4th, 2007, 12:27 PM This is an old building, right?
Built in the early 60's, rennovated in 1997.
mulattokid May 4th, 2007, 01:36 PM ^^^ Please tell me this is not being demolished! It must be the best of all Coucil blocks ever built! Large windows, Lots of interesting shapes....
wjfox May 4th, 2007, 02:05 PM ^^^ Please tell me this is not being demolished! It must be the best of all Coucil blocks ever built! Large windows, Lots of interesting shapes....
You can't be serious - it's hideous! A major eyesore in the area.
Bring on the wrecking ball and bulldozers I say.
(Edit: Heygate Estate will be demolished, not Metro Central)
dfitzzz May 4th, 2007, 02:06 PM ^^^ Please tell me this is not being demolished! It must be the best of all Coucil blocks ever built! Large windows, Lots of interesting shapes....
It is not being demolished....it is having an extention built next to it.It was originally an office block which stood empty for years,then converted into apartments.
I must say though that the rendering of the extention is a bit deceiving, as it looks like the new block is being built a fair distance away from the rest of the building.In reality, it will be very up close and personal to the other building(it is being built on the small car park).
lyonsdown May 4th, 2007, 02:09 PM I'm trying to figure out wher ethe new block is going to go and am stumped.
I even took a walk down there last weekend and still couldn't tell where it was going to be built, the parcel of land to the right hand side of the existing block doesn't look big enough to hold it.
Maybe the rendering is taking a bit of license?
mulattokid May 4th, 2007, 02:12 PM ^^^ YES! I love it :) No wonder its got big windows...I would kill for office size windows Thanks dfitzzz....it does look detached in that render
mulattokid May 4th, 2007, 02:16 PM I'm trying to figure out wher ethe new block is going to go and am stumped.
..........Maybe the rendering is taking a bit of license?
If you look at the pics of the existing buildings you can see a car park by the railway...I think you are right...artistic license to try and make it look more independent
and-r May 4th, 2007, 02:54 PM http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/3800VantageMetroCentral_pic1.jpg
looking at the render it appears as though it will be placed on the old coronet cinema site which is the brown building in the bottom left corner of this image:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/77/254704420_2402d607d4_b.jpg
delores May 5th, 2007, 09:01 AM those white buildings look ok there, from a distance, close up though its a terrible refit of a 60's building that really should of been demolished as should most of the elephant and castle.. which thank god this is happening.
SELondoner May 5th, 2007, 10:53 AM I agree, up close they're shocking. Not nearly as bad as the Heygate mind
delores May 6th, 2007, 01:48 PM I think they look like squats to be honest...and its a gated community in there too, it adds nothing to the area apart from making it look cheap and nasty.
Blindfold May 6th, 2007, 02:11 PM The buildings you speak of (Metro Central) was formerly known as Alexander Flemming House and was home to the DSS for many years I believe. Apparently it was an unspeakably bad place to work in. Its also the work of none other than Erno Goldfinger of Trellick Tower fame.
deanfwj May 6th, 2007, 04:36 PM The main render with the train tracks on the left of the tower shows the view of the tower looking from Walworth Road towards New Kent Road, I dont think the Coronet will be knocked down too soon (maybe when the nasty pink shopping centre gets the chop) as it recently had a massive multi million pound refurb and has listed art deco interior...... I'd love for a theatre/cinema to be kept here as it has been for well over a hundred years with the likes of Charlie Chaplin (a local lad) performing there!
Jim856796 July 7th, 2007, 06:48 AM If the four 12-story Heygate buildings have to be destroyed, the lowrise buildings surrounded by the 12-story blocks have to get demolished also. There's about 10 of them.
Tubeman July 8th, 2007, 02:09 PM I now work in South London House, which you can just see the back of in the extreme bottom left of this photo. I'm looking forward to seeing the area's transformation... It direly needs it!
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b387/wjfox2005/London_general/1-16.jpg
Jim856796 July 8th, 2007, 09:09 PM The Oakmayne Plaza Towers will only occupy a small portion of the Heygate Estate site?
And about that new Metro Central Heights tower, its name is The Vantage and it will be located very close to the Elephant and Castle Shopping Centre? The photos here are dated and the tower may be under construction currently.
Jim856796 July 11th, 2007, 10:45 AM Oh, wait. It's actually constructed on the car park.
SELondoner July 12th, 2007, 02:48 PM This development won't occupy any of the Heygate Estate, it's on the site of the former Castle Industrial Estate, part of which I think was a Volvo dealership. It is adjacent to the Heygate though.
When does this move to the construction thread? The site's cleared though I am not sure when this it turns to actual construction. But it's more advanced than some of the 'construction' schemes.
wjfox July 12th, 2007, 03:02 PM Actually yeah, this belongs in the construction forum.
SELondoner July 12th, 2007, 07:01 PM Thanks!
gothicform July 12th, 2007, 08:16 PM here's high res versions of the three towers
http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/4986OakmaynePlazaNorthTower_pic1.jpg
http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/4695OakmaynePlazaWestTower_pic1.jpg
http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/4987OakmaynePlazaSouthTower_pic1.jpg
Jake_the_Peg July 12th, 2007, 09:54 PM So are they paying for a roof for Elephant and Castle Station, or is that part of the wider regeneration plan cast into doubt by the council's relocation to Tooley St.?
SELondoner July 12th, 2007, 10:57 PM Roof on the station isn't part of this scheme, that's a masterplan aspiration
SELondoner July 27th, 2007, 01:08 PM I may have spoken to early about construction...a new application is in. The tallest element is increased to 87.5m AOD. The lower of the three is now reduced to 38m AOD, and the middle building is still around 60m AOD
See application 07-AP-1449 on southwark.gov.uk
fitz44 October 20th, 2007, 05:01 PM Site has been pretty well cleared now;
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa278/fit3xl/bbc013.jpg
The notorious Heygate Estate looms close;
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa278/fit3xl/bbc015.jpg
SELondoner October 20th, 2007, 05:29 PM The new application has received approval from Southwark pending the Section 106 negotiations, which should be completed fairly quickly.
El_Greco October 20th, 2007, 06:01 PM Site has been pretty well cleared now;
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa278/fit3xl/bbc013.jpg
The notorious Heygate Estate looms close;
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa278/fit3xl/bbc015.jpg
Residents of the towers will have a very nice view of Heygate yobs abusing people.I bet many of them will end up being their victims too.
Any plans to demolish this god forsaken estate?
wjfox October 20th, 2007, 06:08 PM Yes, the entire Heygate estate will be demolished (thank God). This whole area will be unrecognisable in 10 years.
fitz44 October 20th, 2007, 06:39 PM The Heygate really is grim. Almost every flat on this seemingly endless estate has metal bars on the windows and doors. It looks more like a prison than a housing estate.
SELondoner October 20th, 2007, 06:42 PM About 1/3 of the residents have already been decanted from the Heygate estate. However following problems encountered elsewhere with the protracted decant of a large estate leaving some residents behind surrounded by empty or squatted property, the decanted units are being used as the borough's temporary accommodation so are still almost fully occupied.
mulattokid October 20th, 2007, 06:56 PM The new application has received approval from Southwark pending the Section 106 negotiations, which should be completed fairly quickly.
Excellent. A Moderator needs to change the details at the top of the thread.
mulattokid October 20th, 2007, 06:59 PM I may have spoken to early about construction...a new application is in. The tallest element is increased to 87.5m AOD. The lower of the three is now reduced to 38m AOD, and the middle building is still around 60m AOD
See application 07-AP-1449 on southwark.gov.uk
....to the above specs
nowvoyeurger November 17th, 2007, 12:49 AM any progress guys?
SELondoner November 17th, 2007, 03:59 PM Some construction details are being thrashed out but the developer is planning to start construction work early in the new year (January).
wjfox December 21st, 2007, 04:28 PM A revised planning application for this scheme has been approved -
http://www.london-se1.co.uk/news/view/3077
"... The development has been altered to include student accommodation instead of a hotel and proposed office space has been shelved in favour of residential apartments. As well as a supermarket, the scheme's retail space has also been increased to provide more small shop units which will be offered to existing local small traders."
...
"Oakmayne's planning agent told the committee that the hotel element of the scheme had fallen through because hotel operators felt that it was premature to open visitor accommodation so early in the regeneration of the area. He said that the only interest had been from budget hotel chains who wanted to 'dumb-down the design' which Oakmayne felt would 'severely compromise the development'..."
...
"Work on the Oakmayne Plaza site, which has already been cleared, is due to start early in the New Year."
http://i1.tinypic.com/8estllf.jpg
mulattokid December 22nd, 2007, 02:37 PM Excellent...can you change the title stats Will?
Medo December 22nd, 2007, 05:40 PM Good, I'm glad they didn't go with the cheaper option.
fitz44 January 3rd, 2008, 06:36 PM Across New Kent Road, Vantage-Metro Central is flying up.
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa278/fit3xl/jan08010.jpg
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa278/fit3xl/vantage.jpg
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa278/fit3xl/jan08008.jpg
ill tonkso January 4th, 2008, 03:35 PM Vantage Metro-Central looks very 1930s Inner Suburban London to me. Could be the basic white expanses and large yet understated windows? I like it.
fitz44 January 4th, 2008, 08:52 PM Vantage Metro-Central looks very 1930s Inner Suburban London to me. Could be the basic white expanses and large yet understated windows? I like it.
Yes! Strangely the architects have been very respectful to the brutalist Goldfinger complex new door. But (reconstituted?) stone used rather than concrete. It's amazing the change in attitude, ten years ago Metro Central was facing the most appalling Po-Mo reclad. Now it's a landmark to be deferred to!
Snowy January 4th, 2008, 10:43 PM Yes! Strangely the architects have been very respectful to the brutalist Goldfinger complex new door. But (reconstituted?) stone used rather than concrete. It's amazing the change in attitude, ten years ago Metro Central was facing the most appalling Po-Mo reclad. Now it's a landmark to be deferred to!
Ironic eh?!
Metro Central Heights is a nice building, although it's fair to say that it's not pretty from every angle. I thought the building was fairly ugly and unremarkable the first time that I saw it, but very quickly I found myself liking it more and more - it's the little touches here and there that differentiate it from similar buildings that went up in the 60s and show that this is the work of a decent architect.
These midrise towers form part of the Whitgift Centre complex in Croydon and aren't dissimilar to Metro Central Heights in terms of overall design, yet they're a million miles away when it comes to aesthetics - Metro Central Heights has a certain charm and style, whereas the Whitgift Centre towers look bland and stumpy and are instantly forgettable.
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1206/1032402464_826053cf05.jpg?v=0
(courtesy of Raz33th, flickr)
I wouldn't be surprised if Metro Central Heights is listed a few years from now.
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/46/116451710_f3cf098334.jpg?v=0
(courtesy of strangebehaviour, flickr)
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/192/451091779_fef140c631.jpg?v=0
(courtesy of bokjaer, flickr)
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/77/254704420_2402d607d4.jpg?v=0
(courtesy of kitreno, flickr)
delores January 5th, 2008, 12:28 AM Oh please that building is just disgusting close up, it adds absolutely nothing to the area apart from make it look cheap and nasty. Listing it would be such a mistake.
Snowy January 5th, 2008, 12:40 AM Oh please that building is just disgusting close up, it adds absolutely nothing to the area apart from make it look cheap and nasty. Listing it would be such a mistake.
It's not a pretty building, but then nothing from the 60s was. However, in my opinion, it is a well-designed and distinctive modernist building, an excellent example of this type of architecture (which was never pretty) and therefore listing it shouldn't be out of the question.
Anyway, it only narrowly missed out on being listed back in the late 90s.
mulattokid January 5th, 2008, 01:15 PM I find this building intersting...its fairly complex and is painted white, which makes a huge difference. The large windows diveded in to different sized panes reducing to just slits on the stairwell section is as considered in detail as Art Deco. Failry randon displacement of the floors is most successful.
Snowy January 5th, 2008, 03:22 PM I find this building intersting...its fairly complex and is painted white, which makes a huge difference. The large windows diveded in to different sized panes reducing to just slits on the stairwell section is as considered in detail as Art Deco. Failry randon displacement of the floors is most successful.
Agreed! The building does have an art-deco feel to it and I agree that the white paint helps to make it look that bit more attractive
As you say, it's an interesting building.
wjfox January 29th, 2008, 10:47 AM Across New Kent Road, Vantage-Metro Central is flying up.
Went past this on the bus this morning. Vantage has now topped out, steelwork is about two-thirds of the way up, cladding a little under halfway. The whole area is so grim, can't wait to see the other developments going up.
Cabman January 29th, 2008, 11:16 AM Many of the buildings we despise are poorly maintained, but many of them at one time looked the part. Metro Central Heights is a good example of a building that has been refurbished tastefully and given a second lease of life. I think this is a building that deserves of a listing.
wjfox January 30th, 2008, 11:35 AM Here's a pic of the Vantage Tower from a couple of weeks back -
http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=2188390900&size=l
TomD'07 January 30th, 2008, 11:12 PM ^^ looking at that pic on flickr, its such a shame the rail arches are bricked up, they look so much better opened up. maybe its a structural thing though.
GazKinz February 14th, 2008, 12:44 AM Vantage Metro Central from yesterday.
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d155/GazKinz/Picture038050.jpg
wjfox February 14th, 2008, 12:56 AM Actually Gaz, we have a separate thread for this now -
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=580616
Manuel February 24th, 2008, 11:58 AM Still no sign of pilling (last monday)
Ciudad Bristol May 20th, 2008, 11:50 PM Today. Notice the moose made out of scaffolding poles.
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a82/supertek/DSC01020.jpg
Was on the 188 but managed to avoid the falling tree on Tower Bridge Road
fitz44 June 15th, 2008, 09:23 PM Does anyone know what the delay with this is? The site has lain empty (except for the artwork) for a quite some time now.
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa278/fit3xl/london/LNDN650.jpg
SELondoner June 16th, 2008, 08:37 PM They've been trying to tie up the loose ends with regard to the planning obligations. However I don't know whether the credit crumch may cause a further delay.
fitz44 August 1st, 2008, 07:05 PM More good news!
http://www.bdonline.co.uk/story.asp?sectioncode=426&storycode=3119614&c=1
Elephant plaza dispute resolved
01 August 2008
One of most significant schemes in the regeneration of London’s Elephant & Castle will go ahead after a dispute between the developer and Southwark Council was resolved.
Oakmayne Properties won approval in March 2006 for the mixed-use Oakmayne Plaza by PKS Architects.
But BD understands the plans have been on hold after Oakmayne attempted to back out of delivering a £16 million services and utility basement, citing the credit crunch.
Following negotiations, the developer confirmed this week it would go ahead as planned.
Officer Dibble August 2nd, 2008, 12:18 PM Great news. I think this is at least as important to the regeneration of E&C as the more obviously exciting towers (Strata and the Newington) because it starts the process of creating some decent pedestrian space.
http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc164/tomyates7/banana056.gif
Monters August 3rd, 2008, 12:42 AM Ironic eh?!
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/192/451091779_fef140c631.jpg?v=0
(courtesy of bokjaer, flickr)
This building is great. Anyone who dislikes it would be unwelcome at my dinner table.
delores August 3rd, 2008, 01:21 AM Ok, explain to me why this building is great? as its unlikely I'm going to be sitting at your dinner table.
Monters August 3rd, 2008, 02:12 AM It's handsome and colourful and elegant, very finely detailed unlike most concrete blocks, and as for "adding nothing to the area", have you seen Elephant and Castle? Mondial House would "add" to it. It's a warzone. This building is its undisputed highlight.
delores August 3rd, 2008, 02:45 AM very finely detailed? and colourful? ok I admit it's massing is slightly interesting, but this is a poor refurbishment done on the cheap masquerading as luxury housing. The windows are plain ugly as are the daft blue strips that make this building look more like a council estate. The ground level retail is shit and the landscaping is sub standard. I would rather this be properly refurbished totally rethinking the structure and facades etc. All they did was paint the concrete and paint the windows.
Monters August 3rd, 2008, 09:16 PM The blue stips ae attactive. I like the irregular massing and the complex window frames. It's not cheap at all.
wjfox October 14th, 2008, 03:46 PM Revised planning application:
http://planningonline.southwarksites.com/planningonline2/AcolNetCGI.exe?ACTION=UNWRAP&RIPNAME=Root.PgeResultDetail&TheSystemkey=9530043
This adds more residential units and reconfigures some of the retail space. The cinema is also changed from six screens to four.
No height increase I'm afraid.
henry January 30th, 2009, 07:44 PM Mayor's comments on the current revised plan. (http://www.london.gov.uk/mayor/planning_decisions/strategic_dev/2008/20081217/castle_industrial_estate_report.pdf)
According to Tate Hindle's (http://www.tatehindle.co.uk/) website this received consent on the 13th Jan.
Current visuals
http://i42.tinypic.com/idf0jl.jpg
http://www.tatehindle.co.uk/content/news/009/image.jpg
And here's the site at the moment
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3369/3237062844_a62cac2e7e_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3378/3237063620_93c006d7b5_o.jpg
Quick shot of what will be its closest neighbour
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3534/3237064128_5b8202dc68_o.jpg
Nihil Dicit January 30th, 2009, 07:56 PM Quick shot of what will be its closest neighbour
It seems like the apartments in the last pic are being boarded up one-by-one. Isn't the building scheduled for demolition?
ismail January 31st, 2009, 06:09 PM It's is due for demo as part of the masterplan, which Boris the clown is holding up, by not agreeing to get rid of the gyratory system:bash:
paulina_1 March 18th, 2011, 12:59 PM Delancey acquires Oakmayne plaza
Tue, 08/02/2011 - 10:00
Delancey, in partnership with Oakmayne Properties, has acquired Oakmayne Plaza - a cleared freehold site of just over 1 acre adjacent to Elephant and Castle mainline railway station, at the heart of the Lend Lease/Southwark Regeneration area - as part of a consensual deal with RBS.
The site has planning consent for 390,000 sq ft net private residential, student, leisure and ancillary commercial uses and will provide 373 high quality one, two and three-bedroom residential apartments and penthouses, all for private sale along with student accommodation, commercial and leisure facilities.
The scheme, with an anticipated completed value in the order of £200 million, will comprise of three towers, rising from 16 to 24 storeys, linked by a triple storey podium. The commercial space in the podium supporting the residential towers will be used for an innovative multi-screen cinema complex, cafes and restaurants, supermarket and dedicated space for local retailers and other leisure uses. The substantial public open space that fronts the scheme will become the new market square with the potential to emulate that of the highly successful Borough Market.
Jamie Ritblat, Chairman and CEO of Delancey says: “Delancey is delighted to be involved in this important inner London scheme, which lies at the heart of one of the most significant urban regeneration projects in Europe and marks the further development of our portfolio of residential-led mixed-use activities.”
Christopher Allen of Oakmayne Properties says: “We are delighted to be able to work alongside Delancey and have the opportunity to participate as a catalyst in the vision which lies at the heart of the Elephant & Castle regeneration.”
Peter John, leader of Southwark Council adds: “We are extremely pleased to see development commence in the Elephant and Castle Regeneration area whilst the master plan for the wider area is going through planning. This is the beginning of fifteen years of exciting and much needed regeneration”.
dutchsnookerfan March 18th, 2011, 03:33 PM So nothing has happen here in 2010? No digging?
Jex7844 April 3rd, 2011, 06:14 PM Oakmayne Plaza
Situated off New Kent Road and Elephant Road Oakmayne Plaza is a large mixed-use scheme comprising offices, retail, restaurants, a cinema, a hotel and student residential and a market square. The developer has secured an interest from Sainsbury's to include a medium sized supermarket and is currently negotiating with cinema operators. The scheme will be completed in 2014 and will have 312 private residential units, 275 student rooms and 2,300 sqm retail.
Work will start in April 2011. Trees on site will be protected in agreement with our arboriculturists and the developer obtained consent to replant four mature trees.
Works' schedule
March 2011 - hoardings; archaeology trial pits; tree works
April 2011 - works start on site
May to July 2011 - piling
September to February - excavation. Four to six vehicles per day leaving site with waste via Deacon Way through estate to Heygate Road then north to Elephant and Castle
2012 to 2014 - construction
http://www.southwark.gov.uk/images/Oak_Plaza_Night_200x130.jpg
http://www.southwark.gov.uk/info/200183/elephant_and_castle/2049/private_development_schemes/2
Officer Dibble April 3rd, 2011, 10:04 PM Very good news. Thanks for posting. :banana:
SkyscraperSuperman April 3rd, 2011, 11:47 PM Thank you Jex, good to know that this is going ahead. :)
Trances April 4th, 2011, 02:53 PM I always worry about "student rooms" will end up as!
Jex7844 April 4th, 2011, 06:18 PM You're welcome folks ;).
haikiller11 May 18th, 2011, 03:05 AM 18/05
http://i51.tinypic.com/2urvaf7.jpg
http://i54.tinypic.com/30cwsva.jpg
http://i52.tinypic.com/vxg9c2.jpg
:D
WhatIsBeauty May 19th, 2011, 03:15 PM I really like these. definately one to watch.
SE9 May 19th, 2011, 04:45 PM This photo I took a couple of weeks ago probably belongs here:
Looks like preliminary work at the Oakmayne Plaza site?
http://i54.tinypic.com/mm7905.jpg
nrm the 2nd May 19th, 2011, 04:57 PM Piling underway on this one, went through there yesterday. Couple of big piling rigs on site
WhatIsBeauty May 20th, 2011, 09:28 AM Definately moving along nicely now - cannot wait for them to start appearing
gothicform May 20th, 2011, 03:49 PM yeah. i noticed last week they were starting to beaver away. sadly almost all of the H estate is now shut off... no more gorgeous views from the top floor.
steppenwolf June 1st, 2011, 05:18 PM Horribly dumbed down and value engineered since its original design - disappointing but expected.
stevekeiretsu October 12th, 2011, 11:42 AM Does this (http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2011/oct/12/ministry-of-sound-planning-battle) relate to this thread/project? I'm not sure because it says Oakmayne and this site is near MoS, but it also says 41 storey tower block whereas the thread title says 23.
Edit: oh dear, I think it must be this (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=586208&highlight=oakmayne) one, also Oakmayne developers and 41 fl and only "proposed". Stupid me, sorry for bumping the wrong thread :/
william_98 December 2nd, 2011, 11:20 PM cid:53E9A1BF-60C1-4709-8832-BB61A5DCA2D5/image.jpeg cid:7CCE8A37-A35B-4F9F-B478-430A74E97D8E/image.jpeg
william_98 December 2nd, 2011, 11:25 PM It is not being demolished....it is having an extention built next to it.It was originally an office block which stood empty for years,then converted into apartments.
I must say though that the rendering of the extention is a bit deceiving, as it looks like the new block is being built a fair distance away from the rest of the building.In reality, it will be very up close and personal to the other building(it is being built on the small car park).
Actually, I live next to the new apartments next to it and some of the towers are council buildings and the other is a quite new apartment. So the apartment won't be demolished.
william_98 December 2nd, 2011, 11:27 PM cid:53E9A1BF-60C1-4709-8832-BB61A5DCA2D5/image.jpeg cid:7CCE8A37-A35B-4F9F-B478-430A74E97D8E/image.jpeg
Officer Dibble December 3rd, 2011, 01:38 AM Keen to see your pics, william_98, but you need a full address for the images, starting http or at least ᵚᵚᵚ...
william_98 December 3rd, 2011, 11:11 AM Keen to see your pics, william_98, but you need a full address for the images, starting http or at least ???...
Not sure why it's not working. I used the advanced option.
Medenine December 3rd, 2011, 02:03 PM They call these towers!?:lol:
Core Rising December 3rd, 2011, 04:17 PM Keen to see your pics, william_98, but you need a full address for the images, starting http or at least ᵚᵚᵚ...
Ditto, Could you post the whole code on here? Or a link to the website where the pics are uploaded to?
Nightjar December 4th, 2011, 12:05 PM Testing, testing...
william_98 December 8th, 2011, 10:59 AM http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/william_98/image10.jpg
http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/william_98/image2.jpg
Last Wednesday, there hasn't been much progress for a long time now.
Officer Dibble December 8th, 2011, 01:48 PM ^^Well I'm glad you got the pics to show up, and thanks for posting them.
But it's disappointing to see the site deserted - there was supposed to be excavation going on now in preparation for a start to construction in the new year. I guess it's on hold. :(
william_98 December 8th, 2011, 07:32 PM ^^Well I'm glad you got the pics to show up, and thanks for posting them.
But it's disappointing to see the site deserted - there was supposed to be excavation going on now in preparation for a start to construction in the new year. I guess it's on hold. :(
the excavation has been done. we are now waiting for the building to be built!!!!!
Core Rising December 8th, 2011, 10:03 PM Yeah I don't think they have to excavate all the dirt like they do on the developments in the city. No basement slabs to create.
Officer Dibble December 9th, 2011, 01:28 AM Oh, okay. Good then. Carry on. :shifty:
wjfox December 9th, 2011, 11:35 AM My bus goes past the site every day. There's been loads of activity lately - workmen, vehicles on site, etc.
Nightjar December 9th, 2011, 11:50 AM ^^Well I'm glad you got the pics to show up, and thanks for posting them.
But it's disappointing to see the site deserted - there was supposed to be excavation going on now in preparation for a start to construction in the new year. I guess it's on hold. :(
I think that because they didn't appear on the previous page I'd got it into my head that we were in for a real spectacular eyeful when they finally did materialise (gleaming towers reaching for the heavens etc).
The reality is however so disappointing it's actually funny. :)
william_98 December 10th, 2011, 01:23 PM <a href="http://s1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/william_98/?action=view¤t=55dabe65.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/william_98/55dabe65.jpg" border="0" alt="Uploaded from the Photobucket iPhone App"></a> <a href="http://s1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/william_98/?action=view¤t=867a3b5b.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/william_98/867a3b5b.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket Pictures, Images and Photos" /></a> <a href="http://s1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/william_98/?action=view¤t=14cb541e.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/william_98/14cb541e.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket Pictures, Images and Photos" /></a> <a href="http://s1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/william_98/?action=view¤t=55bfd2e5.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/william_98/55bfd2e5.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket Pictures, Images and Photos" /></a>
It looks like there back and there also changing New Kent Road
william_98 December 10th, 2011, 01:48 PM <a href="http://s1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/william_98/?action=view¤t=55bfd2e5.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/william_98/55bfd2e5.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket Pictures, Images and Photos" /></a> <a href="http://s1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/william_98/?action=view¤t=14cb541e.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/william_98/14cb541e.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket Pictures, Images and Photos" /></a> <a href="http://s1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/william_98/?action=view¤t=867a3b5b.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/william_98/867a3b5b.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket Pictures, Images and Photos" /></a> <a href="http://s1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/william_98/?action=view¤t=55dabe65.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/william_98/55dabe65.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket Pictures, Images and Photos" /></a>
Looks like they're working again and they're fixing the new Kent road
wjfox December 10th, 2011, 02:00 PM Your image URLs are completely wrong.
You need to copy the "http" part, then paste the link between a pair of " " tags, ending in ".jpg".
Here's an example:
http://i.imgur.com/5g1mq.jpg
william_98 December 10th, 2011, 02:49 PM http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/william_98/55dabe65.jpg http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/william_98/867a3b5b.jpg http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/william_98/14cb541e.jpg http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/william_98/55bfd2e5.jpg
Core Rising December 10th, 2011, 04:55 PM Cheers for the update, looks like a great vantage point you have there :)
Nightjar December 11th, 2011, 02:50 PM Your image URLs are completely wrong.
You need to copy the "http" part, then paste the link between a pair of " " tags, ending in ".jpg".
...and then clean your windows. ;)
william_98 December 11th, 2011, 03:26 PM All the dust from the construction makes my windows dirty. And I can't clean them from the outside because I live on the second floor
Nightjar December 11th, 2011, 05:28 PM :cry:
william_98 December 14th, 2011, 08:59 AM <a href="http://s1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/william_98/?action=view¤t=c967a2a0.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/william_98/c967a2a0.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket Pictures, Images and Photos" /></a>
william_98 December 14th, 2011, 09:01 AM http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/william_98/c967a2a0.jpg
william_98 December 17th, 2011, 01:34 AM http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/william_98/4cab60ff.jpg today at about 2:30. I haven't seen much progress since about last week. X_X
Officer Dibble December 17th, 2011, 02:44 AM Thanks for the updates anyway. Hope there's a bit more to see soon...
william_98 December 19th, 2011, 08:44 PM http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/william_98/dda2d486.jpg http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/william_98/d3393e9f.jpg http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/william_98/95a5d491.jpg http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/william_98/ca64b29e.jpg http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/william_98/01b24662.jpg http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/william_98/7c839e71.jpg http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/william_98/a03e289b.mp4
A lot of work done today. There was road works and work at the site itself. I woke up to a weird noise and looked out of my window to find a helicopter! I ran to my roof garden to get some pics. Not sure what it was doing there though.
ismail December 19th, 2011, 09:00 PM ^^
Thats the HEMs helicopter ( helicopter emergency Medical service), it responds to life threatening incidents, so someone must have got badly injured in that area
william_98 December 19th, 2011, 10:55 PM ^^
Thats the HEMs helicopter ( helicopter emergency Medical service), it responds to life threatening incidents, so someone must have got badly injured in that area
No wonder the whole of the New and Old Kent Road was closed today.
n_pon88 December 20th, 2011, 02:25 AM ^^^
i left a friends house in the area today and i think it was another bike accident with a lorry. looked like a body in the street as well but all blocked off
Irish Blood English Heart December 21st, 2011, 02:30 AM Interesting a hellicopter would come when how far are St.Thomas or Guys away? Surely it would've been quicker by road?
william_98 December 21st, 2011, 11:25 AM Interesting a hellicopter would come when how far are St.Thomas or Guys away? Surely it would've been quicker by road?
Actually, St Thomas' hospital is very near to Elephant and Castle.
william_98 December 21st, 2011, 02:39 PM http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/william_98/9c306d9d.jpg http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/william_98/857d3e8b.jpg
Oh my gosh, I'm in my loving room and just saw this huge cloud of smoke. I went to the window and saw that there is something on fire at the construction site.
william_98 December 22nd, 2011, 02:43 PM http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/william_98/aa6a2371.jpg
More work being done today. I think that the building might be starting to rise by late January (I hope).
william_98 December 22nd, 2011, 02:44 PM http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/william_98/b4b5b987.jpg
Stairz December 22nd, 2011, 02:50 PM what are they doing with that multi-storey carpark next door?
thedurringtondoctor December 22nd, 2011, 03:42 PM Looks like Minsk or Omsk rather than London
william_98 December 22nd, 2011, 04:13 PM what are they doing with that multi-storey carpark next door?
What car park?
Stairz December 22nd, 2011, 04:20 PM that horizontal commie bloc, whatever it is. it makes baby jebus cry.
Core Rising December 22nd, 2011, 05:08 PM That is part of the Heygate Estate, which is currently under demolition. It has been the most popular filming location for making London look shit.
The view from Strata in 2009. Should have changed a bit since then:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4b/Heygate_Estate_from_Strata_SE1_tower.jpg/800px-Heygate_Estate_from_Strata_SE1_tower.jpg
Stairz December 22nd, 2011, 06:37 PM thanks Core. that truly is diabollockal.
CD. December 22nd, 2011, 07:41 PM Oh my gosh, I'm in my loving room
Too much information...
william_98 March 5th, 2012, 07:04 PM New pics!!!! Btw @CD I meant living room.
http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/william_98/c621242f.jpg http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/william_98/4565da8a.jpg http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/william_98/e05f45e5.jpg http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/william_98/20d29e26.jpg
shard97 March 5th, 2012, 07:53 PM what is taking this so long?
william_98 March 5th, 2012, 09:36 PM I DON'T KNOW?!?!?!?! It's incredibly annoying. The only time I see them working is when there working on the pavement. This should be complete by 2015 but I think it's gonna take LONGER!!!!
pingyao March 5th, 2012, 10:40 PM Not a hell of alot of activity on this one, prime viewing window you have there William!
william_98 March 6th, 2012, 08:40 AM Not a hell of alot of activity on this one, prime viewing window you have there William!
Thx. It's really easy to take pics. :)
william_98 March 6th, 2012, 10:25 PM More pics but no activity.
http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/william_98/59e9e1bf.jpg http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/william_98/0659d542.jpg
I hadn't realized that they had still left a bit of grass from the old Heygate playground.
http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/william_98/0659d542.jpg
william_98 March 6th, 2012, 10:26 PM Sorry I was meant tout this pic too instead of the double pic.
http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/william_98/b5943780.jpg
Mr Bricks March 7th, 2012, 02:31 PM None of the pics are showing.
Aerithia March 7th, 2012, 05:45 PM For the love of God,
STOP UPLOADING YOUR PICTURES ON PHOTOBUCKET, IT'S RUN BY A BUNCH OF GREEDY CORPORATIONISTS WHO WANT MONEY AND WILL THEREFORE TRY TO FORCE YOU INTO GETTING A PREMIUM ACCOUNT BY BASICALLY REMOVING YOUR PHOTOS AFTER A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF VIEWS, GO UPLOAD THEM ON FLICKR INSTEAD, IT'S FREE AND SIMPLE.
/End of rant.
shard97 March 7th, 2012, 06:19 PM For the love of God,
STOP UPLOADING YOUR PICTURES ON PHOTOBUCKET, IT'S RUN BY A BUNCH OF GREEDY CORPORATIONISTS WHO WANT MONEY AND WILL THEREFORE TRY TO FORCE YOU INTO GETTING A PREMIUM ACCOUNT BY BASICALLY REMOVING YOUR PHOTOS AFTER A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF VIEWS, GO UPLOAD THEM ON FLICKR INSTEAD, IT'S FREE AND SIMPLE.
/End of rant.
^^+1^^
scalatrava89 March 7th, 2012, 06:34 PM I don't understand why it's not letting william_98 embed his pictures. I've been using PHOTOBUCKET for about two years and have not had any trouble.
william_98 March 7th, 2012, 07:33 PM I'm SOOOOOO sorry you guys. I'll make a Flickr account l8r if I can.
Officer Dibble March 7th, 2012, 07:45 PM Not your fault, william_98. But photobucket's pretty tight on bandwidth for non-paying users now. I defected to tinypic for that reason.
wawd March 7th, 2012, 08:40 PM For the love of God,
STOP UPLOADING YOUR PICTURES ON PHOTOBUCKET, IT'S RUN BY A BUNCH OF GREEDY CORPORATIONISTS WHO WANT MONEY AND WILL THEREFORE TRY TO FORCE YOU INTO GETTING A PREMIUM ACCOUNT BY BASICALLY REMOVING YOUR PHOTOS AFTER A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF VIEWS, GO UPLOAD THEM ON FLICKR INSTEAD, IT'S FREE AND SIMPLE.
/End of rant.
no need to bark! a new member who posts pics across threads we are interested in is just what this forum thrives on; posts like yours, far less so.
Aerithia March 7th, 2012, 09:01 PM no need to bark! a new member who posts pics across threads we are interested in is just what this forum thrives on; posts like yours, far less so.http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/15796094.jpg
Sorry for that, i just had to post that lol.
Also sorry if the post about Photobucket i did up there seemed "offensive" (which it obviously did in this case), i found an album of pictures on here which had over 300+ photos uploaded in them, and they were from Tehran which there isn't so many new photos from so i was excited to see them, but of course Photobucket had removed them. So that was why i was a bit "angry".
Atleast he tried to contribute with photos, so i shouldn't whine. >.>
Sonnyfire March 8th, 2012, 12:11 AM I read on the SE1 forum that they are having trouble borrowing money from the banks, apparantly they need to sell a certain number of flats and have lease agreements with Sainsbury's and other retailers before they can borrow the money
Sonnyfire March 8th, 2012, 12:18 AM http://halag.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/southwark8.pdf
SE9 March 8th, 2012, 12:22 AM I hadn't realized that they had still left a bit of grass from the old Heygate playground.
I saw the pics before the bandwidth issues...
I miss the Latino football league that use to be played on that patch of grass before the area was blocked off.
I don't think this scheme will rise anytime soon. I hope I'm proven wrong.
william_98 May 1st, 2012, 10:31 PM @SE9. You're dead right sadly! The building looks like a ghost town. I haven't seen any activity for a long time (unless you count some birds visiting the site). I get annoyed to wake up, look out of my window and see no progress. Nevertheless I have some photos! From today and yesterday.
Yesterday
http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/william_98/b3017c61.jpg http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/william_98/5de5e462.jpg http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/william_98/77dda285.jpg http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/william_98/b794e910.jpg http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/william_98/215c3045.jpg http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/william_98/62615724.jpg
Today
http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l639/william_98/3dca3126.jpg
The Champ May 2nd, 2012, 06:04 PM The curse of photobucket strikes again
william_98 May 2nd, 2012, 06:21 PM The curse of photobucket strikes again
Oh no!!!! I didn't know that people were keen to so my pictures. Well there's nothing much to see anyway. X_X
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