Edit -- (Apr, 2010): This tower has been redesigned by Norman Foster. It will be over 125 fl tall / 550m in floor height / 725m at spire height

MUMBAI | India Tower | 725m | 125fls | U/C

Here is a rendering of the final design:

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/6840/image3mg.jpg


First post left below for posterity's sake



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(second design below!)
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Edit -- (May, 2008): This tower has been redesigned, though it will have the same roof height! The name of the tower has also been changed to "DB Tower"

Here is a rendering of the second design:

http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/8472/22039431ly6.jpg



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(original design / original post below)
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With official word of this project just announced last week, the 85-storey Hyatt Park Tower, India's tallest under construction building officially broke ground.

Designed by Fox and Fowle (FXFOWLE) architects as part of three-hotel luxury project being developed by Neelkamal Realtors in conjunction with Hyatt hotels, Hyatt Park tower is located at Marine Lines, Mumbai, just north of the city's historical district. It marks the southernmost point of a major region of skyscraper development that currently stretches north to under construction Parel/Back Bay skyline.

A mixed-used development totalling 882,000 sq ft, Hyatt Park tower, in the architects' own words:
Quote:
...centers on creating an iconic residential mixed-use building within India's emerging new economy.

The 85-storey tower is informed by distinctive indoor/outdoor environments and the desire to optimise the panoramic views of the surrounding landscape.

The tower's rotated form emerges in response to the buildings functional requirements and its mixed-use program - which changes with each twist of the structure. This circulation pattern separates retail, 5-star hotel and serviced apartments and long lease duplex penthouse condominium apartments within a sustainable network of green roofs and hanging gardens; creating a singular, extraordinary building that, when completed, will be the tallest and greenest building in India.
Emails to the architect (thanks spyguy) reveals that the tower is currently under construction and will have a height of 301m. Whether this is roof height is not yet clear.

While currently rather seperated from the current skyscraper construction, it is located at the southern end of what will be a massive skyscraper-laden redevelopment region that will see a long skyline anchored in the north at Dharavi, west at Worli, in the middle at Parel, and in the south at Back Bay.

Though developers in Mumbai tend to be ultra-secretive about their projects until they have broken ground (it wasn't even known that this project even existed until a couple days ago when the Hyatt told the Economic Times newspaper about it (http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/Mumbais_Hyatt_The_new_Times_Square/articleshow/1999730.cms)), other developers have made known that they are planning skyscrapers at Marine Lines. Currently a 50-storey commercial skyscraper, and 2-3 other projects, including the possible supertall Mumbai International Finance Centre, are planned around the location where Park Hyatt tower is being built.


Here are some more renderings. I will update this first post as more renderings and information come out.
http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/8025/01bo2.jpg

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/2546/02vl8.jpg
^ Looking South towards Historic mumbai. Looking North will be a view of the under construction skyline around Parel

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http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/9159/05ou0.jpg

http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/7563/image4hm6.jpg

http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/1939/45688655qn2.jpg

Cheers,
Jai

I love it because it looks so disjointed!

This is a great development and might become a landmark building on Mumbai's skyline!

I usually hate towers like these because I think they try too hard. For some weird odd reason. I love this one!

Thistower looks great in Mumbai

Finally a supertall in India :)

looks nice!!

I like it, it looks nice near that beach :)

great tower, love its shape

wow

weird design

I love it because it looks so disjointed!

This is a great development and might become a landmark building on Mumbai's skyline!

This tower looks great in Mumbai.

Finally a supertall in India.

I like it, it looks nice near that beach.

weird design.


I think is a interesting design not weird hence making it a instant landmark.

Also it will stand out when & if other towers are built around it.

The location to me suggests very near Chowpatty Beach/Marine Drive?

I been eagerly waiting for the arrival of a supertall in Mumbai as it deserves & suits to have the title of a supertall when other cities are proposing such tall buildings.

Mumbai is the Queen of highrises in India and may it continue to be! :cheers:

Wow. I thought its 82F. Now its 85F & next thing you know it'll be 90F already U/C. cant wait for this one to be completed.

wow.. this is heaps cool. just like mixing Sears Tower and CCTV HQ :) :D:D

weird design
wut are architects but artists?

they express themselves through their designs

... the tallest and greenest building ...
Welcome to New India!

It has a weird design but it seems to be a quality building.

Nice! Not typical indian suprisingly! hehe :D

incredible tower :)

Beautiful tower. Man, I love it.

this building being india's first super tall,they could've gone with a better design... still i like it though

is there any construction pictures available? I heard many supertall news about India but all end up with nothing. :(

btw, what is height of the tallest building in India for now? Thanks!

That's a crazy design, it's interesting though. I think this will be an excellent tower upon it's completion. We need some abstract structures nowadays.

Whoaaa,,, Wat a cool tower.. looks gr8..

Mumbai is growing and How...

Amazing bldg..

is there any construction pictures available? I heard many supertall news about India but all end up with nothing. :(

btw, what is height of the tallest building in India for now? Thanks!
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=471390

i liked it, looks different, and specially not too usual

it looks weird......

it has a unique design, but not really my taste :(

good news for india in getting a supertall!!

very awesome design!!

wow! thrilling...
India and Mumbai breaks into the supertall league. We were loitering with the 40 and 50 floor ones for quite sometime now...first the Imperial Towers and now the Hyatt!

waiting for the magic number 100 floors

did the authorities change the law for this? coz if i am not mistaken there is a law that prevents the construction of skyscapers. That explains y they is no tall buildings in india.

I think is a interesting design not weird hence making it a instant landmark.

Also it will stand out when & if other towers are built around it.

The location to me suggests very near Chowpatty Beach/Marine Drive?

I been eagerly waiting for the arrival of a supertall in Mumbai as it deserves & suits to have the title of a supertall when other cities are proposing such tall buildings.

Mumbai is the Queen of highrises in India and may it continue to be! :cheers:

And now off the supertalls as well iff the quality off further supertalls is just as high as this one is because this one is beautifull!!!!

'mumbai deserve alot tall building like this..

look nice btw i like it

did the authorities change the law for this? coz if i am not mistaken there is a law that prevents the construction of skyscapers. That explains y they is no tall buildings in india.
Owing to the lack of development in infrastructure, lack of space, and a whole lot of red tape, Mumbai had some incredibly, incredibly restrictive FSI limits folr skyscrapers.

With infrastructure development, and land made available from slum- and industiral mill-land redevelopment and rehousing schemes, plus the skyrocketing land values, Mumbai is becoming increasingly vertical.

http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/2454/49027027313b1052031b547vf4.jpg

wow! thrilling...
India and Mumbai breaks into the supertall league. We were loitering with the 40 and 50 floor ones for quite sometime now...first the Imperial Towers and now the Hyatt!

waiting for the magic number 100 floors
Actually, Hyderabad, probably the most dynamic city in India (skyscraper wise) may very well juts beat Mumbai to it!

The city govt recently announced that will be one of the focal nodes of their skyscraper-district, a 100-plus skyscraper surrounded by ten to twelve 30-storey-minimum towers, will commence construction in June and will be ready by 2010. (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=471574) There are 2 companies shortlisted in that project, and the winners will be chosen soon (and hopefully renderings thereupon released.) Architect Hafeez Contractor (who designed Imperial Towers) is one of the judges on the final architecture design.

Mumbai may very quickly loose its status as the skyscraper city of the Subcontinent! (Hopefully putting more pressure on them to build an even taller tower!) Big times indeed for India.

just 15 more floors :wtc:

wouldnt wanna lose our title

I don't usually like this kind of building, but this is definently an exception! WOW! Great for Mumbai and India!

Can't say I fancy the design...but that's just my personal taste. Nonetheless - glad to see Mumbai getting supertalls finally!

cant stop being attracted to this building! so happy India has started with the construction of skysrapers, although they are not tipically indian.

Owing to the lack of development in infrastructure, lack of space, and a whole lot of red tape, Mumbai had some incredibly, incredibly restrictive FSI limits folr skyscrapers.

With infrastructure development, and land made available from slum- and industiral mill-land redevelopment and rehousing schemes, plus the skyrocketing land values, Mumbai is becoming increasingly vertical.

http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/2454/49027027313b1052031b547vf4.jpg


Actually, Hyderabad, probably the most dynamic city in India (skyscraper wise) may very well juts beat Mumbai to it!

The city govt recently announced that will be one of the focal nodes of their skyscraper-district, a 100-plus skyscraper surrounded by ten to twelve 30-storey-minimum towers, will commence construction in June and will be ready by 2010. (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=471574) There are 2 companies shortlisted in that project, and the winners will be chosen soon (and hopefully renderings thereupon released.) Architect Hafeez Contractor (who designed Imperial Towers) is one of the judges on the final architecture design.

Mumbai may very quickly loose its status as the skyscraper city of the Subcontinent! (Hopefully putting more pressure on them to build an even taller tower!) Big times indeed for India.



Hi, I've been attracted by this picture. I quite like. Where did you get it (can I ask)? It transforms Mumbai in a sombre and grand city.

wow, If I ever go to Mumbai, I hope I can stay there! Creative architecture.. looks great

the whole world is flooded with skyscrapers :)

And I'm not complaining. :cheers:

Nice addition to Mumbai :okay:

I like the development. Unfortunately, I often find living in skyscrapers is extremely expensive.
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this is actually an extremely impressive cityscape.

I like the development. Unfortunately, I often find living in skyscrapers is extremely expensive.
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Hi, I've been attracted by this picture. I quite like. Where did you get it (can I ask)? It transforms Mumbai in a sombre and grand city.
Hi

The photo was taken by Humayunn N A Peerzaada. Here are some more Mumbai pics by him

http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/1273/4902702375f50f29781b531so0.jpg

http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/2076/4902703079985af9864b54czc4.jpg

http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/9243/491244203b85c50c791b43cdw3.jpg

Cheers,
Jai

[QUOTE=Jai;13126749]Hi

The photo was taken by Humayunn N A Peerzaada. Here are some more Mumbai pics by him

^^
Thanks, I like them too, for the same dark impression
bye bye

Nice photo's of the Mumbai skyline. They are spread all over the city.

All i can see is city skyline photos of mumbai and not a single U/C photo :(

...Is this tower U/C? whats the current height and which floor are they working on?

The project was only formally launched two weeks ago. Both the article and the archiect claim that it's broken ground, but we don't have any u/c photos. The plot where this is being built isn't exactly accessable, so I doubt we'll be able to get construction photos until the building is at least several storeys high.

Nice design. But it is very, very close to the Worli seafront. I hope Worli doesn't get too built up. I really prefer the low-rise character - especially the lovely art deco apartment blocks.

I don´t like it...

gaudy!!!!

Here's another rendering of the tower, and a blurb from AIArchitect Magazine:

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...FXFowle is one such international player. They established a representative office in Dubai about a year ago. Peter Weingarten, AIA, FXFowle’s director of international architecture, says many of his clients are interested in the energy-efficient aspects of high-density vertical development. One such project is FXFowle’s India Tower in Mumbai, which uses a solar chimney to generate electricity, provides on-site wastewater reclamation, and is LEED®-Gold certified. Without the current climate of rampant and volatile high-rise development, the silver 85-story tower would be universally recognized as India’s next tallest building, but now, Weingarten says, not even this visionary project can claim the subcontinent with any great certainty.

Weingarten’s vision of India Tower’s transformative potential is emblematic of developers in many emerging nations. “It will have a much more intangible effect than just another big building, and then it will spur more development around it,” he says. “It becomes a magnet and a center, and if enough of these dots start to get created and they start to become connected into a network, you can really start to see some dramatic changes in the landscape of Mumbai and India.”...


edit- and another:
http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/1939/45688655qn2.jpg

Wow....cool project coming up in Mumbai! Awesome.....so the first fully glass clad super tall ha....nice...

Great News. Bombay seafront was in desperate need of SuperTall & they are finally getting it. All Glass too.

Great News. Bombay seafront was in desperate need of SuperTall & they are finally getting it. All Glass too.

Why was it in desperate need? It's actually nice to have low-rise near the sea and highrise a bit further back. Worli seafront could be much better but I'm still not sure that lining it with skyscrapers is such a great thing.

Hi

The photo was taken by Humayunn N A Peerzaada. Here are some more Mumbai pics by him

http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/9243/491244203b85c50c791b43cdw3.jpg

Cheers,
Jai

These images are either HDR, heavily photoshopped, or both. Very cool, though.

It's HDR

I just like em cause they're cool :)

Location of plot:
http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/5649/image7gn4.jpg

it looks so cool!!!!!!!!!!can anybody tell the status of construction as of july 2007?

updates!!:gaah:

Nothing official, so I didn't report it here.

One of the SSC India forum members with a pretty good reputation (I'm not going to call him/her out) is friends with one of the people involved in the project.

According to him, the project is very much a go and the foundation is already begun, however owing to the truism in India that, when it comes to skyscrapers, its better for a developer to keep a very, very, very low profile, (case in point: look how Ambani was virtually crucified in the media after he went public with his skyscraper) the developers are not going to go totally public until the building is visibly going up. And due to site location, rather isolated from the main roads, until its several stories up no one is going to notice it.

Anyway, owing to the monsoon construction on the tower, like all skyscraper construction during monsoon season in Mumbai, is put on hold for the next couple months -- which is why its going to be a slow while for Mumbai project updates.


Meanwhile, the architects of this project gave a interview about it at AIArchitect (http://www.aia.org/aiarchitect/thisweek07/0525/0525n_tall.cfm) magazine, divulging just how green this building is to be:
FXFowle is one such international player. They established a representative office in Dubai about a year ago. Peter Weingarten, AIA, FXFowle’s director of international architecture, says many of his clients are interested in the energy-efficient aspects of high-density vertical development. One such project is FXFowle’s India Tower in Mumbai, which uses a solar chimney to generate electricity, provides on-site wastewater reclamation, and is LEED®-Gold certified. Without the current climate of rampant and volatile high-rise development, the silver 85-story tower would be universally recognized as India’s next tallest building, but now, Weingarten says, not even this visionary project can claim the subcontinent with any great certainty.

Weingarten’s vision of India Tower’s transformative potential is emblematic of developers in many emerging nations. “It will have a much more intangible effect than just another big building, and then it will spur more development around it,” he says. “It becomes a magnet and a center, and if enough of these dots start to get created and they start to become connected into a network, you can really start to see some dramatic changes in the landscape of Mumbai and India.”
He was correct... the two tallest approved towers in India are the 100+ storey Signature Tower at Lanco Hills, and the 100+ storey APIIC Financial Tower at Manchirevula -- both in Hyderabad.

There are at least 5 more planned "India's tallest / World's tallest" buildings in India, proposed by developers ranging from Emaar to DLF to Jurong/Springfield Land Corp.


Cheers,
Jai

Bloody fricking hell!! Would you believe it? Just as soon as I posted the above, I just learned that they've officially announced that they started construction on the project!!


Main points:
1. Construction started -- to be completed by 2010
2. They're reporting a total height 301m, but only 60 stories(??!) Fxfowle's website (http://www.fxfowle.com/) confirms:
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3. It is to be named "India Tower"

From WorldArchitectureNews.com:

FXFOWLE Architects' India Tower in Mumbai is under construction (http://www.worldarchitecturenews.com/index.php?fuseaction=wanappln.projectview&upload_id=1245)
Greenest Skyscraper in India?

Tuesday 17 Jul 2007

Construction has started on India Tower, a new 60-storey (301 meters) world-class Park Hyatt hotel, retail, and residential tower located in South Mumbai, India. The developer is committed to making India Tower a United States Green Building Council (USGBC) LEED Gold-rated project. Construction is expected to be completed in 2010.

India Tower is located in the prestigious South Mumbai coastal area fondly referred to as the Queens Necklace. The tower’s rotated form emerges in response to the 3-acre site (1.2-hectares), the building’s functional requirements, and its mixed-use program that changes with each rotation of the tower. This circulation pattern separates retail, a custom-designed residential-style Park Hyatt hotel and serviced apartments, and long-lease and duplex penthouse condominium apartments.

The design concept for India Tower was informed by Mumbai’s climate, the site, and the desire to create distinctive indoor and outdoor spaces with optimum views, inspirational settings, and personalized contemporary accommodations for all users. Designed to have the least possible impact on the environment, the tower will integrate current innovative sustainable systems and technologies throughout the building – solar shading, natural ventilation, daylighting, rainwater harvesting, and green interior finishes and materials – to make it one of the greenest skyscrapers in India.

India Tower’s 3-story podium will include restaurants and cafés, luxury-brand retail stores, a health/fitness club with a swimming pool, and a nightclub/lounge. When arriving at India Tower, Park Hyatt guests will be directed to the Sky Lobby (levels 30-35) to check-in, then descend to levels 14 through 28 to their hotel residences.

India Tower’s long-lease apartments will be located on levels 38 through 50, and will feature stylish and spacious two-story living spaces that have been specially designed to take full advantage of the expansive views from this height. Levels 52 to 59 of the tower will house one-of-a-kind duplex penthouse condominium apartments with unparalleled panoramic views.

New renderings:
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edit- found the reason for the height discrepancy: Counting from the above,
60 stories open to public (apartments/lobbies/parks/hotel rooms)
8 stories mechanical
6-storey sky-lobby
3 stories basement

That comes out to 74 total above-ground stories.

Looks like mixe of House on Mosfilmovskaya and City of Capitals in Moscow :)

A Greener India (http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/hill072207a.htm)

By Joshua S. Hill
Canada Free Press, Canada
Sunday, July 22, 2007

Expected to be finished construction in 2010, and set in the exquisitely named Queens Necklace of the South Mumbai Coast, India, the India Towers will mark a new type of ecological friendly development for the ever expanding Asian country.

Standing at 60 stories – 301 meters – tall, the world-class hotel, retail, and residential tower will be one of the greenest skyscrapers throughout all of India. The tower looks as if someone has half twisted a Rubik cube, and left it half done. This circulation design allows for separation of retail, residential style Park Hyatt hotel, serviced apartments, and long-lease & duplex penthouse condominium apartments.

The design was impacted by the climate, the construction site which sits at 3 acres (1.2 hectares) and ‘the desire to create distinctive indoor and outdoor spaces with optimum views, inspirational settings, and personalized contemporary accommodations for all users.’

Some of the green features of this skyscraper are solar shading and natural ventilation rather than compressed air conditioning. Lighting will be produced using a process known as daylighting; essentially, allowing daylight to filter in throughout the entirety of the building using strategically positioned windows and reflective surfaces. In addition, water for the building will be, at least in part, harvested from rain water.

This new development, which has recently begun construction, is just the next in a long line of greener skyscrapers popping up all across the world. The Urbancactus in Rotterdam which places each apartment out with the sun allowing for a greater chance for plants to grow, the CIS Tower in Manchester England which will be able to provide 10% of its own power thanks to over 7,000 solar panels, and the Bahrain World Trade Center Towers, being built in the Kingdom of Bahrain which will be topped with 3 96-foot propellers providing the tower with 1100 megawatts of power per year are three of the greenest towers in construction at the moment. All are making strides towards increasing the amount of dependency they take off the environment, and diminishing the impact they are making around them.

If you’re looking to find out more about such green skyscrapers, then check out the Skyscraper Museum either online, or in person in NYC.

Superb!

Mods, can you please change the thread title to "MUMBAI | India Tower | 301m | 74 fl | U/C" please? :cheers1:

It's a very odd design, that's for sure.

Love the design! Great project for Mumbai.

Great design

Very nice! i love it!

Very nice, box-on-box-building.

Nothing special
but it is the best modern building of India so far
India together with China are really booming
Cheers!

Nothing special

True!!
It does look hideous. Seems like some crystaline lego blocks put up by a 3 yr old.

It's one of those "love it or hate it" designs for sure. Mumbai seems to be getting a lot of those...

Any construction photos?

cool design, nice shape and height.

Any construction photos?

According to one of the members of the India forum who knows someone involved in the project, construction is on, though there's too heavy security and its located too far from public access to see right now. He also reports that he's been told that the height will be 105 stories equivalent, though not all of them liveable.

Cheers
Jai

Weird and ugly.

agree, weird is the correct word for this tower but i like it

It will look nice when completed.

-Wow wonderful for mumbai.....

certainly a milestone for mumbai and india once it is finished

Cool!!! Nice tower!!!!

What a strange thing. Like others here, I oddly like this design.

So when does construction start?

wow finally! one for mumbai~

So when does construction start?

you should better read the title ^^. it is already UC :lol:

^But still not ONE UC pic

^But still not ONE UC pic

I think we can say RIP to the tower.
the official line will always be 'the constructors are keeping it under wraps to avoid media attention'
well how can they put a 74 story tower under wrap when its jutting its butt out so high into the sky.

^^ 85 story tower:)

I think we can say RIP to the tower.
the official line will always be 'the constructors are keeping it under wraps to avoid media attention'
well how can they put a 74 story tower under wrap when its jutting its butt out so high into the sky.

I do not think this is off........it is a serious project (http://www.fxfowle.com/).

^^ 85 story tower:)

does it matter now?
anyways SSC india always has a reputation of having nothing but renderings.
just look around in the section. you will not find one UC pic. the towers stay approved for the better part of a decade.
truth be told it took manhatten 100 years to look like what it is right now.
what makes us think this tower will be up in a couple of years?

^^ Are you kidding me? Have you even checked out the Mumbai photo threads? Humayunn's photo thread? Most major towers claimed to be under construction in the Mumbai Projects Listing (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=360628) have photos of them.

^^ Are you kidding me? Have you even checked out the Mumbai photo threads? Humayunn's photo thread? Most major towers claimed to be under construction in the Mumbai Projects Listing (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=360628) have photos of them.

Exactly!

i've read about this building in chinese newspaper, now it's rising. is it a signal of india starts a skyscraper booming ?

^^ Are you kidding me? Have you even checked out the Mumbai photo threads? Humayunn's photo thread? Most major towers claimed to be under construction in the Mumbai Projects Listing (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=360628) have photos of them.

those arent the proposed supertalls, didnt see anything above 40 floors.

Nice looking tower... I cant find a website for this tower - anyone knows if theres one?

Neelkamal Realtors - which is part of Dynamix Balwas Group - seem to have lost the domain name - nice! http://www.neelkamalrealtors.com

Dynamix Balwas Group website is dead :ohno:
http://www.dynamixbalwasgroup.com

No info online as to who is building this tower - contractor name anyone? Cost of construction?

As always, nice to see multi-million dollar projects by developers that cant afford websites... :nuts:

How embarrassing for them... :lol:

i've read about this building in chinese newspaper, now it's rising. is it a signal of india starts a skyscraper booming ?

India Is Building 2*100 Story Buildings in Hyderabad the work has already commenced.1.Trade tower by reliance 2.Lanco hills Signature tower by Lanco Infrastructures.

those arent the proposed supertalls, didnt see anything above 40 floors.:|

Are you sure you read the topic? There are at least 60 towers proposed over 40 floors in height, and I haven't updated that thread with new developments in the longest time. There is only one concrete supertall proposal for Mumbai - this one. There are several others, but they are still in the designing/proposal stage, with no renderings, so I haven't even bothered to make threads about them. Most of the older projects (at least one year old) we've reported from Mumbai are not only under construction, but pictures of the construction progress have been posted in the India forum, particularly in the Mumbai Cityscapes thread and in several members' personal galleries in the forum.

NEWUSER:
Yeah, they took it down last week for some reason or another. Indian builders are incredibly web-ignorant. Or arrogant. They try to let as little information out about the buildings as they can, because of the incredible power of the NIMBYs in Mumbai. The groundbreaking 60 storey Imperial Towers had at least 10 court cases and 5 stays on construction by socialist parties and other political lobbies who have a perverse stake in keeping slum land away from development. (As a result, its over 1 1/2 years delayed and only 1/2 way done!)

It's happened many times that after we find and publicize about a developer's certain project on skyscrapercity (and then published in other websites) the developer freaks out and pulls all information about the project from their own website. (Yet construction progress documented in the India section shows that those projects are very much on)

But honestly, I think its just the developers being stupid about web presence in this case. Dynamix group has had 3 different websites on 3 different domains since we've watched them in the last couple years, each lasting a couple months before moving on, so God knows why its down again. I ain't surprised though.

NEWUSER:
Yeah, they took it down last week for some reason or another. Indian builders are incredibly web-ignorant. Or arrogant. They try to let as little information out about the buildings as they can, because of the incredible power of the NIMBYs in Mumbai. The groundbreaking 60 storey Imperial Towers had at least 10 court cases and 5 stays on construction by socialist parties and other political lobbies who have a perverse stake in keeping slum land away from development. (As a result, its over 1 1/2 years delayed and only 1/2 way done!)

And what benefit they got in keeping the land - are slum dwellers in charge or the government is?

I think the idea that they keeping this under wrap is meaningless as news about this project is all over the net - even in India. One thing remains the same, is no one knows who the contractor is, even though it's claimed that construction started and no one has any information on the cost of said construction.

Just look at developers of Imperial Towers - construction status as of Sep 07 shows the two towers almost fully built - but same story, no web presence and no one has a clue of construction cost.

Lack of marketing and online presence by developers has nothing to do with them keeping anything under wrap, but rather, them being web ignorant as you stated - which is complete BS on their behalf.

EDIT

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/2401/05tb8.jpg

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/1332/02lx5.jpg


The first time I saw this thing I thought it looked odd, but reviewing in more detail, it does look to be a more thoughtful design. It has really grown on me.

Question - for such a building, isn't that too little parking? Having been in Mumbai, I do know that there is limited space and the number of cars keep going up. Were the number of stalls (and I don't know what that number is exactly - other than only 2-3 floors underground) decided upon from current needs only, and not continued growth in India?

Another 'logistical planning' type question - with the hotel lobby above the actual hotel, will that not cause an absolute headache in terms of moving people throughout the building? Are there any details available of how they will deal with this? I know in Calgary, where I'm from, this type of this would never be allowed - there are strict rules on people movement.

Oh really?

MaitreyaSequeira - what do these pictures have to do with this thread? Are these other 300m+ buildings in India? If so, each project should have its own thread. Please identify total height of each on in that category.

I do know there were supposed to be a couple in Hyderabad (they had their own threads, but I've not seen updates in a long while).

its not a "Indianish" design...

Very good.

MaitreyaSequeira - what do these pictures have to do with this thread? Are these other 300m+ buildings in India? If so, each project should have its own thread. Please identify total height of each on in that category.

I do know there were supposed to be a couple in Hyderabad (they had their own threads, but I've not seen updates in a long while).

Sorry for taking the thread slightly off topic, but the person I was quoting was saying SSC India had no U/C updates, which I was denying through visual proof. Also, no, they aren't over 300m, they are between 150 and 200something metres) They should be in the highrise thread.

Oh really?

Godrej

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/6482/planetgodrej3eb2.jpg

Imperial Towers

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/1569/imperialbig3kc7.jpg

Trinity Towers

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/4876/sumertrinitytowers1mw2.jpg

Asok Towers

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/8937/ashoktowers123jm3.jpg

Raheja Legend & RNA Mirage

http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/3025/rahejalegendfp6.jpg

Legend

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/2314/legendhumayunlw7.jpg

all of those were not even taken from the Mumbai projects thrad, but from a photography thread in SSC India. If I went through the projects thread I could find you hundreds more.

You should think before you speak ;)

OMG! They aren't even completed and do already look as shabby as the rest that surrounds these buildings!

Guess you haven't seen many under construction buildings then, eh?

OMG! They aren't even completed and do already look as shabby as the rest that surrounds these buildings!

:yes: You know, they aren't going to clad those buildings...people just live in them like that. :yes:

^^ That is not the point. But they look like those on hold.And since I grew up in Frankfurt and lived two years in Sao PAulo, I have probably seen more u/c than you! Even though, the u/c buildings look like poor quality!

Nice and tall but the color is killing these buildings...color makes them look old...sorry.

I can't remember when I last saw a montage of shitty looking buildings like the ones I just saw in this thread.

the cladding of the last building is a little bit to flashy lets hope the others will have nice glass claddings

A tower of different boxes, i like it!

I can't remember when I last saw a montage of shitty looking buildings like the ones I just saw in this thread.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f1/Vancouver-westend.jpg

Are you sure about that? Remove the Rockies and what do you have then? ;)

Nice and tall but the color is killing these buildings...color makes them look old...sorry.

Yeah, I don't know why glass isn't used much in these buildings...they are used for commercial ones but not this one, idk why.

Anyway, back to topic - point made, I am going to delete those pictures because some people aren't actually talking about the building in question...

^^ while it might be tough to do, perhaps we should stay on track with the actual subject of this thread. There was actually no reason to post that montage of shitty buildings in the first place. (sorry, couldn't help it).

Alright - now that we've had a lengthy discussion on something that is NOT the subject of this thread, can someone take a stab at answering my questions?


Question - for such a building, isn't that too little parking? Having been in Mumbai, I do know that there is limited space and the number of cars keep going up. Were the number of stalls (and I don't know what that number is exactly - other than only 2-3 floors underground) decided upon from current needs only, and not continued growth in India?

Another 'logistical planning' type question - with the hotel lobby above the actual hotel, will that not cause an absolute headache in terms of moving people throughout the building? Are there any details available of how they will deal with this? I know in Calgary, where I'm from, this type of this would never be allowed - there are strict rules on people movement.

^^ while it might be tough to do, perhaps we should stay on track with the actual subject of this thread. There was actually no reason to post that montage of shitty buildings in the first place. (sorry, couldn't help it).



So wait...we are getting back on thread...by you derailing us? :applause:



Alright - now that we've had a lengthy discussion on something that is NOT the subject of this thread, can someone take a stab at answering my questions?

I too don't understand why there is so little parking space...perhaps they will make it deeper, we'll see. As for the lobby, I think what they mean by 'lobby' is something similar to what they have on the roofs of other hotels, mainly amenties...they may mean the lobby for that sort of thing, which is normally either on the roof of basement of other hotels?

Seeing as to how there are lobbies (plural) on the bottom, I guess its safe to assume there is a hotel lobby AND an apartment lobby on the bottom?

As for the lobby, I think what they mean by 'lobby' is something similar to what they have on the roofs of other hotels, mainly amenties...they may mean the lobby for that sort of thing, which is normally either on the roof of basement of other hotels?

Seeing as to how there are lobbies (plural) on the bottom, I guess its safe to assume there is a hotel lobby AND an apartment lobby on the bottom?

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/1332/02lx5.jpg

Ah - I do see that it says 'Lobbies' at the bottom also, but for that large middle section, it does say specifically 'Hotel Lobby'. Hmmm ... something to look into for those who are in the know. They mention 'Hotel Lobby' a second time in the 'volumes' part on the right. Again, they are referring to the middle of the building. While it seems like an interesting idea, I just don't understand how the logistics of moving people will work like that.

I found this drawing somewhat odd in that it highlights stairs all the way up, but doesn't show elevators all the way up. Weird drawing in that sense.

That part that sticks out in the 'Hotel Lobby' should have a glass floor :)

Last comment / question - it seems like that middle section will be a somewhat wide-open space. The drawing shows that the floors don't go wall to wall. Does anyone have a rendering of what that will look like on the inside?

Hi res.pic
http://www.archiportale.com/immagini/FileProgetto/3738_1.jpg?102,0166

Hi res.pic
http://www.archiportale.com/immagini/FileProgetto/3738_1.jpg?102,0166

That is a high high resolution pic!!!! :eek:

I wonder why India is not trying to construct more highrises like China or UAE? This is the only Indian Supertall I know in this section. :(

only for now, i guess there will come much supertalls in the future for india

I wonder why India is not trying to construct more highrises like China or UAE? This is the only Indian Supertall I know in this section. :(

Bureaucracy, I imagine. Indian "red tape" is legendary. :bash:

I wonder why India is not trying to construct more highrises like China or UAE? This is the only Indian Supertall I know in this section. :(

I believe there are a couple in Hyderabad, but your comments is still valid in general.

Wow this looks amazing,although would like to see some construction pics.Most of the bldgs in Mumbai are ugly,so this will be like a breath of fresh air.

Update?? Construction pics??

i can't remember we got 1 UC-pic until now :lol:

^^ :lol:

Look great especially if the purpose is for Hotel.:banana::banana::banana:

Information provided by Jai: World Architecture News says that the hotel is now under construction, the site has been prepared. In 2 years mumbai will have it first supertall

i thought this was just a proposal. it's actually getting built? i can't find a single UC pic anywhere on the internet...

i thought this was just a proposal. it's actually getting built? i can't find a single UC pic anywhere on the internet...

read the first page and the title. according to that it is UC.......but it is indeed a pity we've no UC pics

I also can't find UC pics. but on worldarchitecturenews.com they are saying that the tower is named : India tower. and it has 60fl etc :

Construction starts on FXFOWLE's 60 storey tower in Mumbai
Construction has started on India Tower, a new 60-storey (301 meters) world-class hotel, retail, and residential tower designed by FXFOWLE ARCHITECTS, an internationallyrecognized architecture firm with offices in New York City and Dubai. Located in South Mumbai, India, and developed by D B Hospitality Private Limited, India Tower combines architectural design excellence, environmental responsibility, and high-end shopping, dining, and entertainment options to create a dynamic new destination for local residents and international business and leisure travelers. The developer is committed to making India Tower a United States Green Building Council (USGBC) LEED Gold-rated project, setting a high standard for future architecture and design projects in the country. Construction is expected to be completed in 2010.

"Our approach to designing India Tower centered on creating a premier international hotel, retail, and residential tower within India’s emerging new economy," stated Sudhir Jambhekar, AIA, LEED, Principalin- Charge of FXFOWLE's International Studio in New York City. "The tower’s architecture is timeless and prominent with a design that respects India’s rich history, but looks to the future. Once complete, India Tower will be a new symbol of prosperity and pride for the country.”

India Tower is located in the prestigious South Mumbai coastal area fondly referred to as the Queens Necklace. The tower’s rotated form emerges in response to the 3-acre (1.2-hectares) site, the building’s functional requirements, and its mixed-use program that changes with each rotation of the tower. This circulation pattern separates retail, a custom-designed residential-style Park Hyatt hotel and serviced apartments, and long-lease and duplex penthouse condominium apartments within a sustainable network of green roofs and hanging gardens to create a singular, landmark building with panoramic views of South Mumbai and the Arabian Sea.

The design concept for India Tower was informed by Mumbai’s climate, the site, and the desire to create distinctive indoor and outdoor spaces with optimum views, inspirational settings, and personalized contemporary accommodations for all users. Designed to have the least possible impact on the environment, the tower will integrate current innovative sustainable systems and technologies throughout the building – solar shading, natural ventilation, daylighting, rainwater harvesting, and green interior finishes and materials – to make it one of the greenest skyscrapers in India.

India Tower’s 3-story podium will include restaurants and cafés, luxury-brand retail stores, a health/fitness club with a swimming pool, and a nightclub/lounge. The podium’s light-colored granite, glass, and stainless steel design complements the tower’s upper floor facades, which are a combination of off-white aluminum panels and insulated glass operable windows. Sited under the podium are three levels of below-grade parking for 650 vehicles as well as designated retail and hotel service functions.

The Park Hyatt hotel, known for first-class locations and accommodations, will brilliantly combine elegance and dramatic architecture to provide cultivated travelers privacy, personalized service, exclusive spa and dining experiences, and impeccable quality during their stay. When arriving at India Tower, Park Hyatt guests will be directed to the Sky Lobby (levels 30-35) to check-in, then descend to levels 14 through 28 to their hotel residences. Each hotel residence level will have 10 to 11 guest rooms, all with spectacular western views of the Arabian Sea. Levels 5 to 12 will feature three Park Hyatt hotelserviced apartments per floor.

India Tower’s long-lease apartments will be located on levels 38 through 50, and will feature stylish and spacious two-story living spaces that have been specially designed to take full advantage of the expansive views from this height. Levels 52 to 59 of the tower will house one-of-a-kind duplex penthouse condominium apartments with unparalleled panoramic views. The upper floors of these remarkable apartments will turn along an internal staircase to allow for multiple views and a 360-degree perspective of South Mumbai and the Arabian Sea

source : http://www.worldarchitecturenews.com/index.php?fuseaction=wanappln.projectview&upload_id=1829

Yeah, the tower is officially named India Tower.

Can the mods please re-name the thread title?

Thanks
Jai

Yeah, the tower is officially named India Tower.

Can the mods please re-name the thread title?

Thanks
Jai

I wonder why India is not trying to construct more highrises like China or UAE? This is the only Indian Supertall I know in this section. :(

Its a misguided question.
.Nations do infra projects .talls are not infra.Nations dont construct supertalls,companies do.And when the market , ie when there is enough demand from multi nationals indian & non indian for big office towers they'll go up like in china.
Right now its almost exclusivly big residential & the odd tall hotel going up in india.Its only 12 months or so so the law was repealed in mumbai to allow more tall construction

i love its shape
boxes are one on the top of the other:nuts:

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Ah - I do see that it says 'Lobbies' at the bottom also, but for that large middle section, it does say specifically 'Hotel Lobby'. Hmmm ... something to look into for those who are in the know. They mention 'Hotel Lobby' a second time in the 'volumes' part on the right. Again, they are referring to the middle of the building. While it seems like an interesting idea, I just don't understand how the logistics of moving people will work like that.

I found this drawing somewhat odd in that it highlights stairs all the way up, but doesn't show elevators all the way up. Weird drawing in that sense.

That part that sticks out in the 'Hotel Lobby' should have a glass floor :)

Last comment / question - it seems like that middle section will be a somewhat wide-open space. The drawing shows that the floors don't go wall to wall. Does anyone have a rendering of what that will look like on the inside?


The drawing above is not a true drawing, but a graphical representation of the structure. A sectional elevation, if you will... (showing split lift-shafts serving different levels)

Its a misguided question.
.Nations do infra projects .talls are not infra.Nations dont construct supertalls,companies do.And when the market , ie when there is enough demand from multi nationals indian & non indian for big office towers they'll go up like in china.
Right now its almost exclusivly big residential & the odd tall hotel going up in india.Its only 12 months or so so the law was repealed in mumbai to allow more tall construction

I've heard the same thing. I talked with a friend from Mumbai a few years ago about skyscrapers in India, and he said that currently the infrastructure in India just can't support skyscrapers.

Most skyscrapers in Mumbai are residential and not commercial. Commercial space is really expensive in mumbai, Mumbai has 5th most expensive office space in the world, so most of new business are moving outskirts to new areas like the Bandra-Kurla Complex and Navi Mumbai.

I've heard the same thing. I talked with a friend from Mumbai a few years ago about skyscrapers in India, and he said that currently the infrastructure in India just can't support skyscrapers.

Thats not entirely correct.Talls dont actually need that much dedicated infra.They just need whats there to work.And that can be made to happen.Go on the SSCI forum .U might find it interesting.

where are the UC pics?

Yep, we could do with some U/C pics. I really love the design of this tower.

Thats not entirely correct.Talls dont actually need that much dedicated infra.They just need whats there to work.And that can be made to happen.Go on the SSCI forum .U might find it interesting.

True, but the sewerage system in Mumbai, for instance, can't currently cope with the job it's supposed to do. Not to mention the continual power shortages...

Mods should change the title of this thread because the tower has a new name (not to mention new renderings).

EVIDENCE:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=19370441&postcount=1862

I like the tower when India need modernised icon.

p.s. just jucking : The building is much attractive than the flag of Tibet!

Is Hyatt still the contracted operator for the hotel or was it passed on to Four Seasons?

Mods should change the title of this thread because the tower has a new name (not to mention new renderings).

EVIDENCE:

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpost.php?p=19370441&postcount=1862


That's unfortunate. I think the initial design was much better, though the DB version isn't bad either.

The new design has the same height, though (301m)

India doesn't know what it's doing.. This tower is ugly.

I think it blends well with its surroundings :dunno:

India doesn't know what it's doing.. This tower is ugly.

the indian government doesnt help indians build this kinda stuff, they instead inhibit these sorts of projects. private investors are building this...don't blame "india" for it...

India is going crazy. I like it.. It's only very bad for the poor people outside the cities :ohno:

??? I didn't get that. Why is it bad for poor people in the outskirts if there is a skyscraper built inside the city???

Because it's India, silly!

Remember: India = elephants + poor people + curry! Duh!

the new design is much better than the old one.

please dont bring one more flaming topic...... by talking about India and all please.

the indian government doesnt help indians build this kinda stuff, they instead inhibit these sorts of projects. private investors are building this...don't blame "india" for it...

It doesn't change anything, the building's still ugly.

The design and name of this building has changed. The new name is DB Tower (short for Dynamix-Balwas, the name of the developer consortium.) Several India forum members have contacted architects FXFowle, and confirmed that they are the architects of the new design as well.

Here is the new design:
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/9248/db01ed9.jpg

The tower will have the same height as the former Park Hyatt/India Tower proposal. The tower remain mixed residential and hotel use.

I've contacted the mods and asked them if they could change the thread title to reflect this.

-Jai

^^ much better. :D

Thanks for the title change mods :)

I'm glad the design has been changed :okay: it looks much nicer now

the new design is much iconic!

no probs jai.
great looker.

i loved the old design, found it almost better than the new :)

I liked the old design, but this one is definitely better! :okay:

The new design is better because the old one resembles the twin towers which are under construction in Moscow(the boxy twins). I cant remember the name but i have photos)

Anyone see the similarity?

http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/7563/image4hm6.jpg
http://photos.streamphoto.ru/0/2/3/59982bf96eec060338290e45ba710320.jpg

that the Capital City Towers are looking similar doesn't matter for me, it's a great style...but however, now we've a new design which is also great :)

i kinda liked the old design

Bravo on the new design!

the old one looks bit silly. trying to hard to be unique. new design is a 21stC tower.
any reason why 301m?

I loved the old one. I think the new one looks too much like other stuff going up.

The new design is better because the old one resembles the twin towers which are under construction in Moscow(the boxy twins). I cant remember the name but i have photos)

Anyone see the similarity?


The new design is way better.

And one more similar building with the old design is the Tianjin TEDA block building (3 bldgs 351.75m, 196.55m, 133.425, about to start construction)
http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/6496/200712207c3e91282274767oq1.jpg
I personally don't like this kind of block building.

btw, is this tower really U/C? Why can the design be changed for a U/C building?

awesome

this new design is amazing

whoops, haven't updated in a while.

Towering Battle (http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1165817&pageid=0)
Rajshri Mehta
Thursday, May 22, 2008 02:52 IST
You thought 60-storey is the highest one can go up in the city? You were wrong. A 75-storey world-class hotel-cum-residential tower is coming up in Charni Road

The battle of builders is reaching for the sky. Determined to ‘tower’ over Shapoorji Pallonji-Dilip Thakkar, developers of India’s first skyscraper - a 60-storey twin tower in Tardeo, Neelkamal Realtors, a subsidiary of the low-profile Dynamix Balwa Group, is coming up with a 75-storey world-class hotel-cum-residential tower in Charni Road.

Located a stone’s throw away from Charni Road station and SK Patil Udyan on Maharshi Karve Road, the 75-storey building, scheduled to be completed in 2011, will cost Rs1,100-crore, and will be managed by Park Hyatt.

With a built-up space of 9 lakh sq ft, the tower, coming up on the plot where Ruby Garage once stood, will offer a panoramic view of the Arabian Sea. Vinod Goenka, chairman of DB Group, said, “Construction will be in full swing after the rains. We are awaiting the state government’s decision as to how much floor space index (FSI) we can consume, since the plot falls in the Coastal Regulation Zone (CRZ).”

As per ministry of environment and forests (MoEF) rules on CRZ, a developer under the 1991 development control rules (DCR )can get an FSI of only 1.33. But Goenka is not a worried man. He has started work, using the sanctioned FSI of 1, but is certain of getting a much higher FSI.

He is confident because the Supreme Court, in December 2007, directed the state to consider Goenka’s request for an FSI upto 6.29. The apex court passed the order on a petition filed by Goenka seeking higher FSI, based on the 1967 DCR instead of the prevailing 1991 DCR.

Goenka said, “Hotels like Oberoi, President in south Mumbai have consumed higher FSI of over 5 under the 1967 DCR. We asked for a similar benefit. The civic body wanted to apply the 1991 DCR, but the apex court held it was not applicable to our project for two reasons. Firstly, the 1991 DCR does not specify the FSI a hotel can consume. Secondly, the CRZ notification freezing FSI came after the 1991 DCR.”

However, the urban development (UD) department, headed by chief minister Vilasrao Deshmukh, is yet to take a decision on the issue. The delay is not without reason. Other star hotels in the city too have begun petitioning the government for similar development rights to raise the height of their buildings.

Those include Sea Rock Hotel in Bandra, Sahara Star at Vile Parle and another five star hotel in south Mumbai.

Senior UD officials are in ardent consultation to find a way to tackle the situation, otherwise there is the danger of DB Group filing a contempt of court petition against the government for not complying with the apex court order.

“If we allow (higher FSI) one and deny the others, the government will be accused of being partial and corrupt,” said an UD official.

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/1151/image8lf9.jpg

DB Realty hired RC Observer (http://www.rcobserver.com/) to take some pics of the views from the tower. Here they are -

1.
http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/7791/dbhplindia20tower220022xr1.jpg

2. Part of the compound can be seen-
http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/4052/dbhpl2nd20site20129id1.jpg

3.
http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/2589/dbhpl3rd20site20073km5.jpg

weeeeeeeeeeeee.

The Mumbai panorama looks interesting and majestic..
This tower really gonna kick off some serious supertall frenzy in the megapolis.

Thanks for the pics Jai

elegant glass structure, mumbai should be very proud!

Awesome news!

The tower's height has officially been confirmed to be over 400 meters in height :banana:

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/4507/image1gt8.jpg


Also, here's a layout plan, which gives a better perspective of the shape of the tower:
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/5101/layoutplan1yt0.jpg


Cheers to the Indian Skyscraper Blog (http://indianskyscraperblog.wordpress.com/2008/10/07/mumbai-dynamix-balwas-tower-db-tower-400m-75-floors-an-update/) for the heads up!

-Jai

There is a proposal for a 412m, 113 level Norman Foster designed building on or near this site.

Does anyone know whether it is in fact this development seeing as the height is now over 400m and the latest renders on this thread show a building that doesn't look anywhere near that height?

There is a proposal for a 412m, 113 level Norman Foster designed building on or near this site.

Does anyone know whether it is in fact this development seeing as the height is now over 400m and the latest renders on this thread show a building that doesn't look anywhere near that height?

That's an interesting question... and I agree the height does not look to be 400 m in the rendering.

Do you have any more information on the tower Foster's designing? I haven't heard about a tower he's working on in Mumbai, and can't find any information on such a proposal on the net.

He is, however, confirmed to be involved in the design of a supertall tower in Hyderabad, but that proposal is at its very initial stages no hints of the design has yet been released.

Cheers

Foster is working on this. The design is a slender pyramid similar in profile to the London Bridge Tower, incorporating open air sky gardens as featured in his earlier Commerzbank tower in Frankfurt. It will be THE landmark building on the Mumbai skyline.

Foster is working on this. The design is a slender pyramid similar in profile to the London Bridge Tower, incorporating open air sky gardens as featured in his earlier Commerzbank tower in Frankfurt. It will be THE landmark building on the Mumbai skyline.
Awesome :) Can you point us to a rendering?

There is a proposal for a 412m, 113 level Norman Foster designed building on or near this site.

Does anyone know whether it is in fact this development seeing as the height is now over 400m and the latest renders on this thread show a building that doesn't look anywhere near that height?

Wait wait so you say now its a 412m 113 floor building. But why does DB Realty still have this on there website and Foster's website doesnt even have any projects in India?

Larger render posted by spyguy in the Mumbai fourm.

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/8472/22039431ly6.jpg

very nice design!
this will be a great addition to Mumbai's skyline!

Sweet design!! ^^

Looks better big! :)

Great news ! That is the design i prefer ! Lovely !

POsted by IndianUnite in India Forum

DB Tower
Type of project: Hotel cum residential

Developer: DB Realty

Launched in: 2008

Original completion date: 2011

New completion date: N.A.

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/6923/62386493.jpg (http://img19.imageshack.us/my.php?image=62386493.jpg)

Reason for delay: Company officials claim no delay (work is ongoing) With a built-up space of 9 lakh square feet, and a panoramic view of the Arabian
Sea, Neelkamal Realtors (a part of DB Realty Group) is coming up with a 75-storey hotel-cum-residential tower in Charni Road.

The building, scheduled to be completed in 2011, is expected to cost Rs 1,100 crore, and will be managed by Park Hyatt. According to a company spokeswoman: “The site work is going on.” However, a visit to the site shows that the ground has only been excavated and there is no construction activity yet.

From Business Today magazine's latest edition (http://www.businesstoday.intoday.in/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&issueid=&id=10575&Itemid=&sectionid=&completeview=1)

All the designs of the tower from Fxfowle's website

http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/4847/1243890714.jpg

Wondeful.

the new design is alot more appealing

lovely mam

Updates from the India section. The tower will consist of 125 floors!

I'm not sure if this has already been posted, but I assume it belongs here. Now that there is official confirmation of what many here were saying earlier, this project sounds exciting, and with a big name like Hyatt attached to it, more realistic than most of the 100+ story towers in India.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/34481334

Hyatt Signs Management Agreement for Five New India Properties
18 Dec 2009 | 01:20 PM ET

CHICAGO, Dec 18, 2009 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- Hyatt Hotels Corporation (NYSE: H) and DB Hospitality Pvt. Ltd., part of DB Group, today announced management agreements under which Hyatt will operate five new hotel properties in India.

The properties, currently slated to open on various dates between mid-2010 and early 2014, include Park Hyatt Mumbai, Grand Hyatt Goa, Grand Hyatt Pune, Hyatt Place Pune, and Hyatt Place Mundra.

DB Hospitality Pvt. Ltd., considered one of India's fastest-growing real estate developers, will develop and own the properties, all of which will be situated in major business centers. The plans include luxury and upscale guest accommodations, serviced apartments, authentic dining options, and banquet/meeting facilities.

"The introduction of five new Hyatt properties in India, one of the world's most vibrant emerging markets, illustrates our commitment to expanding our global footprint," said Ratnesh Verma, senior vice president of real estate and development for Hyatt. "We are excited to provide our guests with access to our world-class, preferred brands in these increasingly popular markets in India." Hyatt has operated properties in India since 1983. Currently, Hyatt manages five hotels in India, including Park Hyatt Goa Resort and Spa, Grand Hyatt Mumbai, Hyatt Regency Mumbai, Hyatt Regency Delhi, and Hyatt Regency Kolkata.

"We are proud to be partnering with Hyatt for the management of these iconic properties," said Julian R. Groom, chief operating officer and executive director of DB Hospitality Pvt. Ltd. "Hyatt's knowledge of the Indian market and its global reputation is consistent with our company's pursuit of greater excellence and efforts to reach the next level of hospitality." The five new Hyatt properties will include:

-- Park Hyatt Mumbai, projected to open in the first quarter of 2014, will include 255 guest rooms and 55 serviced apartments. The hotel will be part of the iconic 125-story India Tower located on Marine Lines in South Mumbai. Foster and Partners, London has been selected as the leading designers for this full-service hotel, which will include exclusive banqueting and meeting facilities.

March 1 - site prep underway at the site -

http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/1109/28kiy4m.jpg

Thanks IU, waas just about to x-post that...

X-post!

I visited the site 3 days ago when I was in Bombay. Site prep is currently underway and they've excavated quite a big chunk of land. When the main gate opened for a guy to walk in, I followed him in but was stopped by the security guards at the instance of a site engineer. If he wasn't there then I would have had a field day inside. I pleaded with the site engineer to take just one pic but he didn't budge. So I just went to the 3rd floor of the adjacent building and took a few pics and a video.

Here are 2 of the pics. I'll upload more later along with the video which shows an excavating truck doing its thing at the right most corner of the site.

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X-post!

So here are the remaining images. I haven't uploaded the video cos it's about 30 mb big (cos its HD) and my puny upload speed will take ages to upload it.

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Here's the DB signboard I mentioned above. Even though it doesn't say DB hospitality as I had claimed before, this is still enough to show that the site is owned by the group and the actual site.
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Here's the video. Surprisingly it took just 30 mins to upload. excuse the shoddy camerawork. It was tough to record and balance on the window ledge.


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Click on HD and then full screen for the best quality.

this one is u/c now . should be completely done in 2 yrs time.

Very Nice building! :D

If it is u/c can we get a picture of the site? Even if it isn't, his should be moved to prep.

Any news on this project? If this is u/c, Mumbai will have 3 supertalls! Palais Royale 1050ft. , DB Tower 988ft. , and Orchid heights or something like that, 985ft.

^^Here ya go!

Mods please change the title to:

MUMBAI | DB Tower | 550m | ~100fls | Site Prep

Finally the design is out on the web. Presenting the Norman Foster designed DB tower -

http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/6938/dbtowerw.jpg
It's from an investor presentation on DBR's website (http://dbrealty.in/investors/investorpresentation.php)

Larven - our tower teaser http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/8495/11371342.gif has confirmed that this IS the Foster tower and it'll consists of about 100 floors while rising upto a height of 550 meters. The original tower was supposed to be around 700 meters tall.

*checks if it's still 1 April*....*Check again*..... No it really is 6 (yeah fixed :shifty:) April now....
Is this for real? Because of it is...then it's uber AWESOME!

^^^ No, it's actually the 6th of April now :-)

And whoa, what an awesome looking beast!

This sure is for real. Should be u/c in a few months.

hmm please change the opening post to 550 meters. and 100 floors.

brilliant

Impressive, it'll be great for Mumbai. :cheers2:

Yes indeed, this is jawdropping! :eek2: Thank you very much, and I hope that it will be under construction soon! :cheers: 550 meters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Holy shit. :happy:

I can bet that this is just a joke Something like comments on the first page itself .That this building is already in construction now it is 2010 and it is still a proposed building without a final design . So i have very little hopes on this one . Guys don't jump of your pants thinking it is a real design and this is a construction that is going up . You all are goingto be sadly dissapointed.

Awsome design. This will be good for the Mumbai skyline.:cheers:

I really don't understand why Mumbai doesn't have skyscrapers it is the largest city in the world you'd think they needed them

^Stupid laws and no planning.

I just read the presentation outline for DB tower. The rendering of that tower above has nothing to do with it, and, in fact DB tower is listed as a SUB 200,000 sqft tower. No was in hell that a 85fl tower is going to have 200,000 sqft. Sorry guys, but this one is a bust. Not even going to break the 100m mark.

I think this new proposal is not real, for 2 reasons;
1. It's not on Foster's website (supposedly the architect)
2. It's not "out on the web" like IndiansUnite said it is. It's only seen here, not anywhere else on the web...

But i do hope it's an actual real design that will be built :)

I really don't understand why Mumbai doesn't have skyscrapers it is the largest city in the world you'd think they needed them

It's poor planning, finance problems and some laws. I think Mumbai has the same problem like Karachi, the officials look for bribes and also in Karachi there are some bullshit aviation laws.

not really. i dont know about karachi but in india we have severe height restrictions. they have been relaxed only very recently for a handful of projects

this tower has got all approvals and will be u/c sometime this year. the time to get all approvals was some 3 years, a few of the approvals had to be vetted by the supreme court and some of them by the civil aviation ministry

the height was reduced from 700m to 550m. a 300m+ building is already u/c at another location and so are a clutch of buildings from 75-90 floors

New tallest for India!!

I just read the presentation outline for DB tower. The rendering of that tower above has nothing to do with it, and, in fact DB tower is listed as a SUB 200,000 sqft tower. No was in hell that a 85fl tower is going to have 200,000 sqft. Sorry guys, but this one is a bust. Not even going to break the 100m mark.

I can assure you that the rendering is of the DB Tower and is 100% bona fide.

^God, I hope you're right :D, though I'm a bit hesitant to get my hopes up because several such outrageous proposals in the past that have fallen by the wayside.

where is the source for confirming the new height? any website, article, statement??? i still have my doubts...

If something is in China or Dubai none asks all these questions. But when it's in India....

We don't know what the official height is Larven said that it will be 500m+

If something is in China or Dubai none asks all these questions. But when it's in India....

We don't know what the official height is Larven said that it will be 500m+

don't get me wrong, i like the design and it would be really cool if mumbai gets a 500m+ tower, this city desperately needs it. just keep us posted when new information is released. :)

I dind't mean you only every time something is planned in India every one asks questions.

If something is in China or Dubai none asks all these questions. But when it's in India....

We don't know what the official height is Larven said that it will be 500m+

The Chinese and Dubai government plan their skylines decades in advance, the Indian government plans nothing at all. So its quite fair to have doubts.

I like this tower, but till DB officially comes up with a render it looks like a dud..:ohno:

Hope this tower gets built in Mumbai.

Wonderfull Design! Never seen it before, i mean not like any other tower. Very different crown.

things dont always work the same way in india. another 300m+ tower in bombay, palais royale, has got almost zero press coverage and no one knows the final height even though 20+ stories are already constructed. the problem is that in india skyscrapers are considered evil by most and legally its very hard to get clearances for tall buildings. so builders usually shy away from the media and dont release details till the building is almost finished. you will not see a full render of this from db till the structure is at least halfway up

I think thats the same almost everywhere. I don't like it, but it is as it is.

Wow! this really looks massive, and a very futuristic design! AWESOME!

If something is in China or Dubai none asks all these questions. But when it's in India....

We don't know what the official height is Larven said that it will be 500m+

hmm, let's see, maybe because of the fact that both China and Dubai tend to actually get their projects started and built. And also have sources' to back up their claim, when something is proposed...

I dind't mean you only every time something is planned in India every one asks questions.

As they should, India doesn't exactly have a good track record of building all the supertalls that have been proposed. Hell, it's hard to take some proposals seriously sometimes. It's more than fair to have doubts, especially when it took 8+ years to complete a pair of 249m towers.

It's only natural to ask.

Mainly government things fail. Or the people and government make things built but other compains fail like the Imperial Towers that just made it.

I wonder if this logic applies to IndiaBulls....they seem to be all over the papers at regular intervals.....

I am guessing the one-time India Tower, then-DB Tower will be a 125 storey tower in Marine Lines, which will share space between Park Hyatt (run by Hyatt of Chicago) and service apts....this much is confirmed that Hyatt is promoting 2 u/c hotels in Mumbai at this very moment.....

^^Here ya go!

Mods please change the title to:

MUMBAI | DB Tower | 550m | ~100fls | Site Prep

Is this a realistic proposal? I hope so. Mumbai will become one of the world's financial capitals, and it deserves a great landmark like this.

slightly larger rendering:
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first post updated

^^Here ya go!

Mods please change the title to:

MUMBAI | DB Tower | 550m | ~100fls | Site Prep

http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/hyatt-to-operate-five-new-properties-in-india/81263/on
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Hyatt to operate five new properties in India
Yoshita Singh/PTI / Chicago December 19, 2009, 13:56 IST

Hyatt Hotels today said it will partner with Indian real estate developer DB Hospitality to operate five new hotel properties in India as the global hospitality company seeks to expand its footprint in the "world's most vibrant emerging market".

Under the management pacts between city- headquartered Hyatt and Mumbai-based DB Hospitality, part of DB Group, the five properties are slated to open between mid-2010 and early 2014. The properties are Park Hyatt Mumbai, Grand Hyatt Goa, Grand Hyatt Pune, Hyatt Place Pune and Hyatt Place Mundra.

DB Hospitality would develop and own the properties, which would include luxury and upscale guest accommodations, serviced apartments, authentic dining options and banquet/ meeting facilities.
"The introduction of five new Hyatt properties in India, one of the world's most vibrant emerging markets, illustrates our commitment to expanding our global footprint," Senior Vice-President of real estate and development for Hyatt Ratnesh Verma said in a statement.

Park Hyatt Mumbai is projected to open in the first quarter of 2014 and will include 255 guest rooms and 55 serviced apartments. The full-service hotel would house exclusive banqueting and meeting facilities and be part of the iconic 125-story India Tower in South Mumbai.

Grand Hyatt Goa is under construction and is slated to open in the third quarter of 2010. It would include 314 guest rooms. Grand Hyatt Pune would open in the third quarter of 2011 and include 325 rooms and multiple dining, banquet and meeting facilities, while Hyatt Place Pune is projected to open in the first quarter of 2012 and have 130 rooms.

The 150-room Hyatt Place Mundra is slated to open in the third quarter of 2013 and would be located in the Special Economic Zone at the Mundra Port.

Hyatt has operated properties in India since 1983. Currently, it manages five hotels in India, including one in Goa, Mumbai, New Delhi and Kolkata each. Park Hyatt Mumbai is projected to open in the first quarter of 2014 and will include 255 guest rooms and 55 serviced apartments.

The full-service hotel would house exclusive banqueting and meeting facilities and be part of the iconic 125-story India Tower in South Mumbai. Grand Hyatt Goa is under construction and is slated to open in the third quarter of 2010.

It would include 314 guest rooms. Grand Hyatt Pune would open in the third quarter of 2011 and include 325 rooms and multiple dining, banquet and meeting facilities, while Hyatt Place Pune is projected to open in the first quarter of 2012 and have 130 rooms.

The 150-room Hyatt Place Mundra is slated to open in the third quarter of 2013 and would be located in the Special Economic Zone at the Mundra Port. Hyatt has operated properties in India since 1983.

Currently, it manages five hotels in India, including one in Goa, Mumbai, New Delhi and Kolkata each.

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I am guessing this is the "iconic" tower everyone is getting all excited abt!!! However, this hardly looks like a building suitable for a hotel, leave alone one run by Hyatt.....

However, what the good news is, is that wherever and whenever it is built in Mumbai, it will be India's first "true" supertall, and an icon!!!:):cheers:

^another source

Hyatt Signs Management Agreement For Five New India Properties

The properties, currently slated to open on various dates between mid-2010 and early 2014, include Park Hyatt Mumbai, Grand Hyatt Goa, Grand Hyatt Pune, Hyatt Place Pune, and Hyatt Place Mundra.

Park Hyatt Mumbai, projected to open in the first quarter of 2014, will include 255 guest rooms and 55 serviced apartments. The hotel will be part of the iconic 125-story India Tower located on Marine Lines in South Mumbai. Foster and Partners, London has been selected as the leading designers for this full-service hotel, which will include exclusive banqueting and meeting facilities.

About DB Hospitality Pvd. Ltd.

DB Hospitality Pvd. Ltd., headquartered in Mumbai, India, is part of DB Group, a leading Indian real estate development company that specializes in commercial, residential, hospitality, retail, IT Parks, and gated properties. The company is poised to become one of the largest hotel guest room owners in India by 2014.

http://www.hospitalitynet.org/news/4044796.search?query=hyatt%20mumbai%20db

[QUOTE=IchimaruGin1;56375465]^another source

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Slightly off topic, but its nice to see all the good chains come to Mumbai....Sheraton, Hilton, Hyatt, Marriott, Four Seasons, Shangri La, Holiday Inn/Intercontinental, Wyndham.....But the one I think Mumbai truly "deserves" (not needs) is a Waldorf=Astoria property. What say, Juntaa!!!:cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers:

this will be hyatt's 3rd property in bombay (hyatt regency, grand hyatt and park hyatt). marriott too has 3 properties (jw, courtyard and renaissance). intercontinental has 2, sheraton has 2, hilton doesnt have one anymore. rest have 1 each

the hotel boom in india is just starting. expect to see every major hotel in india's metros in the next 4-5 years

this will be hyatt's 3rd property in bombay (hyatt regency, grand hyatt and park hyatt). marriott too has 3 properties (jw, courtyard and renaissance). intercontinental has 2, sheraton has 2, hilton doesnt have one anymore. rest have 1 each

the hotel boom in india is just starting. expect to see every major hotel in india's metros in the next 4-5 years
I didnt realize Oberoi is no longer a Hilton.....and you seem to be uber-optimistic about the Park Hyatt property, considering that it is still 4 years out (and considering the reputation of big ticket pvt projects in India)!!

dont worry its happening. i know someone involved with the project, though they are not very keen to divulge any info considering the implications of such a building in india with regards to the local press and civil society. they will release details only when its construction has reached a status of fait accompli

dont worry its happening. i know someone involved with the project, though they are not very keen to divulge any info considering the implications of such a building in india with regards to the local press and civil society. they will release details only when its construction has reached a status of fait accompli

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I am not sure what such secrecy will achieve. It is equally likely that civil society will anyways file a PIL once they see a behemoth beginning to loom around them (say once abt 40 floors are ready). Or may be they may move the courts against granting the building an occupancy certificate even after the building is done and complete (in which case, the losses to DB and Hyatt will be a zillion times more, than if the troubles are settled out-of-court earlier on).

Beats me....

One more thing....where does DB think they are going to get the water supply for such a building?? Last I heard, Mumbai is under a 15% cut in '10, and it could get worse (20-30%) next year and in '12. Things have been promised to be better in '13, but then, I will take it with a pinch of salt.:ohno:

courts are loathe to stop major constructions once they are built. anyways this one has all clearances thanks to a clever bit of legal work from db (they filed a case against themselves some years back, so now it would be double jeopardy)

the bigger problem from civil society for a builder is when it becomes emotive and then politicians get involved. its much more likely they will get involved when something is not yet built as opposed to somethings thats already up. i think the 'blow' of a 100+ storey building will be softened considerably by then with buildings like palais royale already built by then

also one db tower is not going to make much of a difference to the water demand of bombay. there are thousands of buildings being built all over the city and they all face the same problem in the end. this one is likely to be LEED certified as well, recycling its own waste water. middle vaitarna dam is under construction and two more are planned and should be under construction soon

So.. is it U/C or just APP? Peoples posts on page 1 contradict the title...

So.. is it U/C or just APP? Peoples posts on page 1 contradict the title...

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Site Prep, I think, is the appropriate term as of today!!!