please post your old newspaper clippings in here.
from REDBARON

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Cul...amazing at the same time I was doing the same thing!!! I thought woowww..I'm going to have too many threads!!!!

I can't believe that the thought of pulling down the Independent Church actually entered anybody's head, ever!

These are fascinating Redbaron, keep 'em coming...

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VIVE 120 RUE COLLINS!

thank christ that Nauru/MLC look-a-like wasn't built.

thanks guys, theyre quite interesting.
funny how renders even in the 70's were skewed to look taller

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wow, never seen that one before. it says it maybe taller then 602ft Aussie sq to become Australias tallest. and this was back in 1970..looks 200m?
the 602ft or 183m was Aussie sq "RL" height. but it ended up being Australia;s tallest anyway in 1991 with its 264m antenna."officially".
thanks

Another scheme that didn't get up..but now 101 Collins St. stands there so sometimes it's all for the best! http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/9186/m034largeid3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

This tower looked ok..and at the high location of Cnr.Bourke and William sts. would have been a landmark tower for sure....but even though the present AMP is not quite up to date it is still a good representative of the late 60's so we should keep some.....! http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/9263/m050mediumpz9.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/6806/m047mediumuj0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/743/m040mediumqp8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

^^ :cry: One of my favourite never-built buildings, wish it was built on some other site.
I would like the St James and AMP buildings to stay as well. :)

The first version was 302m high (to top of glass, 275m to top floor) with 72 levels above ground.

It was approved with 62 levels and a height of 274m to the top of the glass. The glass box on the roof shown in that rendering was just a building envelope. If it had of gone ahead they were going to have a design competition to build a glass sculptural element at the top of the tower within the envelope.

I wish it had of got built on the Grand Central site across the road.

And one of my favorites!!! the old BHP..140 William st..it's timeless !watched it grow like a mecanno set !http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/2632/m035mediumvi4.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/2049/m036mediumyh2.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/4563/m038mediumix2.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/5858/m039mediumuh5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

I have the planning scheme amendment for that AMP development from July 1998....I would be happy to scan it it any of you are interested

^ Yes please!!!!!

AMP's proposal is a crying shame it stayed that way.

You may hate me for saying this but the existing 'St James & AMP tower' are buildings I kinda wouldn't mind so much if they were demolished and redeveloped,

Here are details about Church Place...AMP...Bourke and Williams Sts...July 1998...Bates Smart Architects....Melbourne Planning scheme Amendment L294 http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/6420/m056mediumsv7.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/995/m057mediumru1.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/918/m058mediumpb6.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/4229/m059mediumpq7.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/8853/m060mediumqt5.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/6492/m061mediumpc0.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/8949/m062mediumci4.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/9416/m063mediumfm2.jpg (http://imageshack.us) http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/7320/m064mediumoi3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Sorry if the scanning went a bit weird??? but it is a very interesting article...Just think the plans for this building are sitting somewhere....If only we could find a little bit of land to use them on.......Don't think AMP will ever go ahead with this plan!

POSTED BY ORPHIX

First of all I pretty much only joined this community to share this with you.
I have foud many old family slides and got the projector up and running again which means I am now looking at thousands of family photos from 15 - 40 years ago. Many are family members in younger times and many are the cities we live and breath in today. I can only look at them at night, and am only getting through 40 a day but I have seen some pretty cool images. PLease note I would love to get a slide to digital picture converter but for the time being Im taking pictures, of a picture, that is of the projection on my wall - well white sheet actually.
Heres a few pics.

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/7127/dsc06675hw8.th.jpg (http://img407.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc06675hw8.jpg)
Amazing image looking over melbourne entertainment venues, to be. I would guess date it at around 1980. Melbourne park was completed in 1988.



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this picture taken from the same builing different direction looking south west-ish.

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COnstruction estimated date 1967

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I seem to think this is lake burnley griffin, would also be about 1968.

There will be more images after i look at more lsides.
Please discuss

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build it!

Yair, build it; it would be a "must do" for all those people doing their international motor tours - the operators of the International Motor Hotel could offer special package deals.

These are so interesting, thanks for sharing redbaron and culwalla!

$6.4M for new council offices...aahhh those were the days!

Woah!! never seen that one before, what year was that?.. the thought of building a super long bridge linking both sides of the bay never crossed my mind.. great idea, build it :)

So glad those Flinders Street proposals never saw the light of day! :nuts:
Imagine losing Flinders Street Station. :down:

build it!

Yep but it would have to be higher than 70 metres above the high tide as some of the new monster cruise ships are already higher than that.

hah,i also have the bay of plenty article as well

one of the many articles i have, real shame this never made it. the sort of innovation i would have hoped for docklands
http://silvermb.thehoddlegrid.net/docktv.jpg

^^Pity, would have been way cool! :bash:

Yeah that would have been awesome!! Sad times! Why didn't it go ahead do you know?

they couldn't make up their minds between Plasma or Lcd...:runaway:

Imagine that being used to show the world cup matches. :D

You'd have crowds surrounding the building without the need to split them out because there was no more space.

Shame, that would have been very cool.

Apparently the Bureau of Meteorology looked hard at this one - the vision was that they could broadcast the live weather radar map up onto the building ! this would be great driving home at night wondering if rain was on it's way...

yea but it would be better on like the corner of collins and bourke with the new telstra screen going up there and get a little times square thing happening!

Rialto still show wrong heights for there display board.
i informed them 10 years ago. if they want to show sea level heights they should say it. i suppose its just what Eureka does also to it stats. must be a grollo thing.lol

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I agree that it's misleading claiming height from sea level yet in both Rialto and Eureka's cases they have more to lose than gain...in that both are at very low datum points to begin with....if you use same principal for 120 Collins St for example they lose out. One positive using sea level for all buildings......as long as the city is coastal....is overall height difference can be seen as actual not presumed....eg. Rialto compared to 120 Collins St....purely on building height Rialto would be higher than 120 Collins but ground level is very different.

^yes both rialto/eureka are 2.3m (8ft) above sea level. but that is irrelevant. should have correct stats.

Your right......as usual. : )

lol @ rialto's 9 hectares of 'quality blue carpet'

posted by redbaron in grandcentral thread.
@ 153m, the weather antenna above 303 collins st was once the highest structure in melb .
1m higher then BHp completed 1 year earlier in 72. the com bank of 75 equaled the height of 303s antenna.
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Anyone want to shoot my old man.

I had every skyscraper article from the Weekend Australian 1986 - 1990 in a scrapbook.

The old man piffed it when I moved out of home.

Lucky for me my mum keeps them, she's interested in skyscrapers too. i'm knee deep in grollo tower complaints.

I tried to scan this page but it was too big...so took a pic...not so clear but I wish this was standing on the site of Melbourne Central http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/6391/melbournecentral003largfe1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
By redbaron_012 (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/redbaron_012)

Apart from being taller than the current tower I don't see how Victoria Central is any better. MC still looks awesome today, VC would have looked outdated now IMO.

gasp, video killed the radio star!
I agree archi, MC is a modern classic.

Maybe I've never really loved the chisel.....It always looked a bit squat to me and the twin spires seem to conflict with the crystal chisel shape......This proposed tower would have been around the same height as the ESB and would still be the Landmark Tower of Melbourne. I agree certain Architecture typecasts buildings to a particular decade, but if the Building is good that's not a bad thing.....Guess we prefer different styles?

i cant believe it was almost 400m!
epic!

That tower looks alright too! But I prefer Melbourne Central.

Maybe I've never really loved the chisel.....It always looked a bit squat to me and the twin spires seem to conflict with the crystal chisel shape......

Totally agree. It's a great design, but being "squat" doesn't do it any favors at all.

I think the name of this thread suits this 'old' Article I just scanned, from The Argus in 1956. http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/6042/jolimontlargefy2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
By redbaron_012 (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/redbaron_012)

WOW... that's like really old...

I hope you don't mind me asking but are you really old redbaron_012?

I think the name of this thread suits this 'old' Article I just scanned, from The Argus in 1956. http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/6042/jolimontlargefy2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
By redbaron_012 (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/redbaron_012)

That must have been one of the last Argus Newspapers printed before it was shutdown.

And the council seriously considered such a vague proposal - I might build a hotel, or maybe some apartments, or offices, no maybe shops, and it could be anything from 4 to 12 stories.

Interesting article about Ollie Polasek here (http://www.abc.net.au/goulburnmurray/stories/s1810602.htm).

Nice find redbaron.

I think Melbourne Central has more significance now that Kurokawa has passed away. But I do agree that it should be taller, maybe an extra 50m taller.

Interesting to read the 'Ollie' article....he was only 33 back in 1956 so it's feasible that he could still be around....I have quite a few other articles from the Argus etc.....they are not cuttings but entire newspapers so hence the TV story at the side of this article...wonder if those TV tubes are worn out yet ?.......and cowface.....as far as my grandson is concerned I am 'Really Old'......56 this year.....but only 55 at the moment....!

LOL .. You have grand children already?

LOL .. You have grand children already?

That's not unusual. My mother is 54 this year and is a grandmother (at my brothers doing).

My grandma is a great grandma and is 86.

That's not unusual. My mother is 54 this year and is a grandmother (at my brothers doing).

Your grandma is younger than my parents.. xD

holey shit!

My grandson is nearly 6..so I was a grandparent at 49 but my daughter was 27 when she had him so I could have been a Grandfather in my early 40's......my parents are not 80 yet so they are Great GP's...so all you (straight) young people get out there and have kids..OK...People these days seem to hang about then want work and materialistic stuff then one day when the female is 40 they think ..hey better have kids...then they are old and cranky bringing up crazy teenagers...Now I can enjoy my grandchildren (3)....and teach him to love Melbourne and skyscrapers and encourage him to become an Architect...what I started to do back in the 70's before getting sidetracked. Wonder if impressions made at a young age influence direction of life later?.....All this a bit deep and meaningful ..sorry!...PS...I guess I could have scanned myself for this thread ?...hmmm maybe not!

Hahaha, thats awesome.
It definitely does make a difference to show them when they are young. My mum was a tourism lecturer at RMIT and i used to go up to her office and stare at the view. She wants me to become an architect and she's the one that got me interested in cities. She has heaps of old brochures on crown and docklands and rialto and stuff so i used to be bombarded with them! Lol, she used to always talk about whats going on in the city and stuff.
So redbaron, start now! lol!

LOL! My brother is 27 too.. and he's not married chyet. My grandpa is.. 95?

Hope you visit your grandpa just because you want to..at 95 he has probably lived the better part of his life... when they are gone it's for a really long time.

I met him.. in 05. I plan on going back this year again :)

My grandpa is the same age and I'm his eldest grandchild!

WOW

You must have had kids young Redbaron.

I am 23 years old and would not even consider having a serious relationship let alone children. Everyone is different I suppose.

My parents got married at the age of 28 (dad) and 26 (mum). Both went overseas more than 3 times, both had settled careers and both enjoyed their single youthful life. They always say to me that being young makes up only a short part of you life and therefore you shouldnt wish to rush into too many heavy responsiblities because afterall your life as an adult is much longer than your life as a child, teenager and young adult. If you life an average life expectancy you have a shitload of time so why not enjoy your 20s.

Each to their own I suppose. There are pros and cons of both. I am 23 years old and only have one of my grandparent still alive so in that sense its shit, but thats life.

I want kidsss! I already have their names figured out; Phoenix Chi and Nero Iero ;)

This thread is heading in strange direction..except for the old bit?....One point I would like to make though....I got married at 21....had my first child when I was 24, second at 26...during all that time still lived a normal life..along with going to work....at that time a civil/survey draughtsman.....We went out to Movies, dances, used to drive interstate on weekends to all the touring car and manufacturers champ. races...went out with mates to pubs every now and then.Took kids to NZ and we used to go to Fiji most every year during early 80's...OK had parents who loved looking after the kids sometimes but we didn't just dump them all the time....Never understood the thing about life or fun grinding to a halt when you have kids ?......was married for 20 years. When I spent alot of time interstate during the 80's on business, wife ran off with (former) best mate. So at 40 started new life...still young enough to enjoy and kids old enough to understand....Now all OK...and I have the best time with my eldest ( in particular) grandson...and being a Personal Trainer forming him to enjoy eating vegetables..haa and regular exercise...drinking water instead of soft drink!!! (poison)....so all good really!...That's the last I will say about it....I just hope it makes a few of you young people think what's lifes all about in the long run!......and that comes along way quicker than you could ever imagine............

Awww, that's adorable except your wife.. ahhhh. Soft drink (poison) LOLOL.

Can we please change the name of this thread to the parenthood thread/redbaron's memoirs! LOLOLOL
I really want a big family. And i'm going to take my kids to disneyland while they're still old enough to enjoy it... most importantly i'm going to try and make the most of the time i have with them. What am i talking about? lol!

Deleted this post as on reading it later I thought it wasn't really an Old Scanned Article.......?

:|

After deleting earlier post this one became redundant!

To answer a few questions...I hope?.......and also hope it's readable ?
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thanks so much for that