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renell June 27th, 2003, 07:07 PM SINGAPORE (AP) -- Singapore has announced it will build a 170-meter (561-foot) -tall Ferris wheel to surpass the London Eye as the world's largest -- assuming Shanghai does not deliver an even bigger one first.
The "Singapore Flyer" is expected to cost 200 million Singapore dollars (US$115 million) and reach the height of a 45-story building when it is completed by 2005, the Singapore Tourism Board said in announcing the measure to help the battered travel industry recover from SARS.
Observers at the top will be able to see as far as neighboring Indonesia and Malaysia, the same view people can enjoy from the top floors of skyscrapers here, officials said.
If Singapore does set a record with its wheel, it may not hold it for long. China said last year it planned to build a 200-meter (660-foot) wheel in its commercial hub of Shanghai -- also by 2005.
The chief executive of the Singapore project's development managers, Orient and Pacific, said the wheel here would be a major engineering feat, not just a "carnival attraction."
Peter Purcell acknowledged the city-state's wheel was a copy of the London version, but said he did not know of any modern piece of construction that had not followed on from other ideas.
"I stand accused and plead guilty," Purcell said when asked whether the plan had imitated London's wheel.
The London Eye, one of the British capital's most popular tourist attractions, is 135 meters (446 feet) tall, according to the Guinness Book of World Records' Web site.
In recent weeks, wealthy Singapore has been rolling out a number of tourism projects as it struggles to lure back visitors scared away by the SARS outbreak, which killed 32 people here.
huaiwei June 28th, 2003, 09:13 PM From the Straits Times:
$200 m ride
On a clear day you'll be able to see Johor, Batam and Bintan from the $200 m Singapore Flyer coming up on Marina Bay by end 2005. It will be the world's largest revolving structure
By Camilla Chiam
THE world's largest ferris wheel could take you for a whirl on the Marina Bay waterfront as early as November 2005. At 170m, the Singapore Flyer will stand 35m taller than the wildly successful London Eye, erected on the banks of the Thames.
Its 32 air-conditioned glass capsules are designed to take up to 25 people. On a clear day, they will have a 45km view all round and even see parts of Malaysia and Indonesia.
The observation wheel will sit atop a three-storey building housing 20 tourist-related shops and entertainment outlets, which will be linked by travellators to the Millenia MRT station due to open in mid-2005.
The $200 million project set on 3.37ha of land is the largest foreign direct investment ever in a visitor attraction here.
The investors, the Melchers Group and the Orient and Pacific Group, sealed the deal at the Pan Pacific Hotel yesterday by signing an agreement with the Singapore Tourism Board.
Melchers is a German logistics and engineering services company; Orient and Pacific Group a consultancy based in the British Virgin Islands.
STB chief Lim Neo Chian believes the Singapore Flyer will 'spur Singapore's tourism industry to greater heights'. It is projected to draw more than 2.5 million visitors to spend $94 million in its first year. Tourism here could certainly use a boost, with visitor arrivals down by as much as 70 per cent.
Melchers' general manager Patrick MacMahon, 38, says he is sure the Flyer will be ready a year before its competition, the 200m-tall Shanghai Star, is due to crown that city's skyline in 2005. He claims that the Shanghai Star will open in 2006 instead. 'The Shanghai Star is still in negotiation, but we've already moved forward with the Singapore Flyer today,' he said.
Mr Xu Junhui, 28, an engineer who rode on the London Eye in 2000, can't wait. He said: 'I drive along the East Coast Parkway and look at the skyline so I'm really curious to see what it would look like from the top.'
View it in PDF (http://straitstimes.asia1.com.sg/mnt/media/image/launched/2003-06-28/ride.pdf)
huaiwei June 28th, 2003, 09:14 PM Giant ferris wheel could've been bigger...
Height limit is placed on the 170m-tall 'Singapore Flyer' as it is close to an air corridor leading to Paya Lebar Airbase
By David Boey
IF NOT for height restrictions imposed by the flight path leading to Paya Lebar Airbase, the massive 170m high giant observation wheel dubbed the Singapore Flyer could actually stand taller.
The height limit was imposed as the structure, which will stand on a 3.37 ha site at Marina Bay at the end of 2005, towers quite close to an air corridor that leads to Paya Lebar Airport from the south.
Still, the steel structure's proposed design already dwarfs the British Airways London Eye, an enormous 135m tall observation wheel which stands on the south bank of the River Thames in London.
The British tourism magnet looks set to lose its reputation as the world's biggest observation wheel once the Singapore Flyer starts spinning.
The Singapore Flyer will be some 35m taller than the London Eye, although the upcoming Singapore landmark will sit on a 20m high foundation.
The joint press release issued yesterday by the Singapore Tourism Board (STB) and Melchers Project Management, an engineering firm which is developing the structure jointly with STB under a $200 million project, did not hold back on superlatives when describing the Singapore Flyer.
The proposed 1,100 tonne structure has been dubbed 'the world's highest observation wheel', and that it will be a 'technologically advanced engineering and design marvel'.
But one pressing engineering challenge is more basic: how to make it spin without giving passengers motion sickness.
Mr Brendon McNiven, assistant director of Arup, a global engineering consulting firm engaged to build the Singapore Flyer, said: 'We need to make the structure stiff enough so it will not oscillate so quickly and if you can limit the acceleration, it will make people feel better.'
Mr McNiven said wind conditions here work in the design team's favour, as gusts are not as ferocious as those in places further away from the equator.
Each of the 32 observation capsules will be strung to the wheel's central spindle by a pair of steel cables some 70m long.
Each cable will carry dumbbell-shaped weights to help reduce vibrations so passengers will enjoy a smooth 37-minute round trip to the top and back.
The design of the wheel should be finalised by December and construction should begin early next year.
Cliff June 30th, 2003, 12:18 PM Pictures
http://straitstimes.asia1.com.sg/mnt/media/image/launched/2003-06-27/ferriswheel.jpg
The observation wheel will be sited at the bayfront marina complex, and give riders a view three countries. To be ready in 2006, it will be accessible by train.
http://straitstimes.asia1.com.sg/mnt/media/image/launched/2003-06-27/wheel.jpg
BIG WHEEL: A Singaporean cameraman adjusts his lighting as he gets ready to photograph a scale model of a planned 170m-tall Ferris wheel that is being planned for Singapore. It will be similar to but taller than the London Eye. The Singapore Tourism Board on Friday announced a list of projects to win back visitors following the Sars crisis.
Soaring 35m higher than the Millennium Wheel in London, the Singapore Flyer will cost S$200 million (US$114 million) and is expected to attract 2.5 million visitors in its first year of operation in 2006.
'It will be a technologically advanced engineering and design marvel, scaling new heights as it gently cruises to 170m above ground,' the project's developer, German firm Melchers, said in a statement.
'It will sport stunning views of three countries and serve as the signature architecture gracing Singapore's landscape.'
Designed by Japanese architect Kisho Kurosawa, the Singapore Flyer will have 32 air-conditioned 'capsules' that can each carry up to 25 people for a 37-minute ride, with laser beams ensuring it will light up the Singapore skyline.
It will be located at the bayfront Marina complex, have a waterfront dining area and will be accessible by train.
Senior Minister of State for Trade and Industry Tharman Shanmugaratnam said one million of the estimated 2.5 million passengers in 2006 were expected to be from overseas, helping the Singapore Flyer generate about $94 million in earnings for the year.
RafflesCity July 1st, 2003, 04:33 PM Here are pictures of the model I took at the URA Gallery in Singapore.
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/504/103wheela.jpg
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/504/103wheelb.jpg
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/504/103wheelc.jpg
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/504/103wheeld.jpg
TYW July 4th, 2003, 05:28 PM nice wheel!!
nice model too:cool:
weirdo July 6th, 2003, 02:54 PM looks great.
bagel July 6th, 2003, 04:33 PM That looks great. Can it stand up to typhoon-force winds? Or does Singapore not get any monster storms?
huaiwei July 6th, 2003, 05:09 PM You might be glad to noe that Singapore does not experience typhoons or any other major storms. Come to think of it, do you noe where Singapore is? ;)
bagel July 6th, 2003, 05:44 PM Oh I know where it is. When I was there, it was so dry and hot, at the same time as the Philippine dry seasons, so I wondered if they get the same weather patterns in the Malaysia/S'pore region. I guess the Philippines gets all the worst weather.
Pablo July 7th, 2003, 11:38 AM wow it is cool:cool: hehe hope Malaysia will get 1 too, hope it will built in Genting Highland:D
ethan July 7th, 2003, 02:25 PM hehehe...i don't think genting will get this thing. it's too huge. anyway some people outside asia said that singapore (and Shanghai which will be world tallest observation wheel) is copycat the idea from London Eye and claim that it is not original. why there are soo jealous of us? so, only London deserve to have it's own observation wheel?
huaiwei July 7th, 2003, 03:15 PM Well as herloim and benny pointed out in another thread...didnt the Londeners copy theirs from the one in Yokohama? ;) Yet no one compained at that time.....
TYW July 7th, 2003, 04:56 PM when was London Eye completed?? i don't thikn i see it before
szehoong July 8th, 2003, 06:35 AM The London Eye was complated in year 1999 in conjunction with the milliennium celebration. ;)
RafflesCity July 11th, 2003, 04:36 PM STB confident Singapore Flyer will fly
THE Singapore Tourism Board (STB) would like to thank writers for sharing their views on the Singapore Flyer observation wheel ('Singapore Flyer won't fly'; ST, July 2, and This & That column; ST, July 3). We welcome feedback from the public and interested parties on tourism-related matters.
STB firmly believes that the Singapore Flyer will add substantially to the diversity and vibrancy of attractions available to tourists and Singaporeans alike.
It will also boost the perception of Singapore as a happening place and provide an important contribution to the tourism sector and the economy through the patronage and expenditure that it will attract from visitors.
The project has many unique elements in terms of size, scope and design. It also benefits from lessons learnt from successful icons such as the London Eye. This gives it an important benchmark and we are confident that the project will be a success and an enduring feature.
While STB supports the project, we would like to point out that the Singapore Flyer is a private-sector initiative undertaken by an experienced and reputable international consortium. Together with government agencies such as the Urban Redevelopment Authority, Land Transport Authority and National Parks Board, STB helped the consortium to secure the necessary government approvals for the project.
STB will also purchase the land and lease it to the project developer, Melchers Project Management. It should be noted that the $200 million funding for the project will be provided by the private sector.
STB has seen first hand the great deal of planning and research that have been put into the project by the consortium and its world-renowned architect. While we welcome views on the Singapore Flyer, it would not have been appropriate for the STB to seek public feedback on behalf of the private-sector consortium. The consortium has had enormous experience in projects of this nature.
We at STB, like many others in Singapore and the international community, look forward to enjoying the view from the top of the Singapore Flyer when it is completed in 2005.
SHIRLEY TAN (MS)
Director, Corporate Communications
Singapore Tourism Board
szehoong July 11th, 2003, 10:34 PM Actually I am starting to get a bit positive about this ferris wheel thingy. When I first heard of it......tackines and Las Vegas comes to mind! :D
But come and think of it....Its kinda unique and should I go to London I would definitely try out the London Eye and if Spore has one....I would try it out too. :D :D :D
From earlier reports, it is said that the London Eye is just a few years or so temp structure.....I guess they are extending it now?
Anyway I still can't believe that the Spore authorities would be so daring on something like the Spore Flyer. Kudos to Sporeans! ;)
Pablo July 12th, 2003, 07:29 AM hehehe...i don't think genting will get this thing. it's too huge. anyway some people outside asia said that singapore (and Shanghai which will be world tallest observation wheel) is copycat the idea from London Eye and claim that it is not original. why there are soo jealous of us? so, only London deserve to have it's own observation wheel?
if built on the Genting it will be the world tallest above sea level observation wheel :D
Cliff July 26th, 2003, 09:26 AM http://www.skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=12795&drawingID=15001
Is it okay?:)
Comparison:
http://www.skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=12795&drawingID=15001 http://www.skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=1579&drawingID=13710
Singapore Flyer, London Eye
Cliff July 26th, 2003, 01:13 PM I just finished Parkview Square!!
http://www.skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=12805&drawingID=15012
Chad July 26th, 2003, 02:23 PM Now...That's The differences...
RafflesCity July 26th, 2003, 05:30 PM I've been waiting a long time for ParkView Square. Nice diagrams! :okay:
Cant wait to see the Flyer for real!
TYW July 26th, 2003, 06:49 PM great!! i wanna see the real thing as soon as possible
Mercury July 26th, 2003, 10:44 PM I prefer the design of the london eye...but singapore flyer is taller:guns1:
kiku99 July 28th, 2003, 07:37 AM nice design. look just like ferris wheel in the fair.
SUNNI July 28th, 2003, 08:47 AM sweet cliff...i mean it;)
Cliff July 28th, 2003, 03:49 PM Thanks!:D
huaiwei July 31st, 2003, 12:51 PM Originally posted by Cliff
I just finished Parkview Square!!
http://www.skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=12805&drawingID=15012
This is damn cute. :D Do you have a larger version?
And I think u might have to redo the Singapore Flyer one when they finally come up with the design! ;)
Cliff August 1st, 2003, 04:37 PM :D
No, I did it 1:1, But I may do larger diagrams of other buildings, like OUB.09 ;)
I would do a better Singapore Flyer, this one was not very well done.:)
Cliff August 2nd, 2003, 06:42 AM Just for fun, here's my newest Empire State Building
http://skyscraperpage.com/gallery/data/500/851.jpg :D
kiku99 August 2nd, 2003, 07:59 AM very nice diagram, Cliff.
Imperfect Ending August 2nd, 2003, 09:01 AM What pogram did u use to draw them?
Cliff, thats amazing!:D
Cliff August 2nd, 2003, 12:30 PM Microsoft Paint.:)
huaiwei November 7th, 2003, 05:41 PM Maybe China will respond by building it in Tibet......
RafflesCity November 15th, 2003, 01:38 AM huaiwei, go and dig up some info to see whats going on with it!:D
huaiwei November 15th, 2003, 01:51 AM Er? I think they are awaiting financing or something.......construction is due to start anytime soon! Meanwhile, did you guys see the "official" site?
RafflesCity November 15th, 2003, 01:53 AM Originally posted by huaiwei
Er? I think they are awaiting financing or something.......construction is due to start anytime soon! Meanwhile, did you guys see the "official" site?
Nope, show us the link or info:angel1:
renell November 15th, 2003, 11:28 AM hey, cool. my thread landed here:D
anything new with it?
New Jack City November 15th, 2003, 08:40 PM Good idea, it looks like it could offer decent views. ;)
huaiwei November 20th, 2003, 07:32 AM Originally posted by savethewtc
Good idea, it looks like it could offer decent views. ;) Well, it better do, or else it will be a damn bad idea! :D
Come to think of it, what will probably sustain it in the long term would be the price for taking a ride in it. ;)
TropicalSQ744 December 6th, 2003, 03:33 AM Great work cliff!! :eek:
Your Parkview Square seems abit dark. Is there anyway to make it brighter without redrawing it all over again?
Cliff December 6th, 2003, 04:05 AM I can always use Paintshop pro.:D
huaiwei January 28th, 2004, 08:47 AM Originally posted by Cliff
I can always use Paintshop pro.:D So where's the mega diagram of parkview square you promised? :D
Cliff January 28th, 2004, 10:23 AM Originally posted by huaiwei
So where's the mega diagram of parkview square you promised? :D
I only did one floor, and now I'm way too busy with my CA1 comming up next week.:D
Chinese and English papers on Wednesday 4/2
Maths and Physics on Thursday 5/2
S.S. and Chemistry on Friday 6/2
A Maths and Geography on Monday 9/2
Biology on Tuesday 10/2
Tomorrow is Physics and Amthas test 29/1
Friday is A maths test on another chapter. 30/1
AHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!
huaiwei January 28th, 2004, 10:26 AM Aiyah....CA only mah.....:D
huaiwei February 29th, 2004, 10:54 AM Anyway.........any updates about this thing?
eyetoeye February 29th, 2004, 11:00 AM Yeah. Haven't heard anything about it at all for a long time. I hope it hasn't been dropped... :bash:
huaiwei February 29th, 2004, 11:06 AM I doubt it would...for if it happens, the signs should have appeared by now! :D
eyetoeye February 29th, 2004, 11:29 AM Originally posted by huaiwei
I doubt it would...for if it happens, the signs should have appeared by now! :D
What sort of signs, i wonder?
huaiwei February 29th, 2004, 11:32 AM Originally posted by EyeToEye
What sort of signs, i wonder? Usually the media here is sharp enough to detect something is amiss lah. :D
eyetoeye February 29th, 2004, 11:36 AM Originally posted by huaiwei
Usually the media here is sharp enough to detect something is amiss lah. :D
I see.... but i've never seen those kinds of reports before.
huaiwei February 29th, 2004, 11:42 AM Originally posted by EyeToEye
I see.... but i've never seen those kinds of reports before. Neither have I, so I would assume it is still on track...for now! :D
eyetoeye February 29th, 2004, 11:46 AM Originally posted by huaiwei
Neither have I, so I would assume it is still on track...for now! :D
I see... i hope it is... it's such a wonderful project...
huaiwei February 29th, 2004, 11:52 AM Oh? Not everyone is happy about the wheel thou. :D
eyetoeye February 29th, 2004, 12:21 PM Originally posted by huaiwei
Oh? Not everyone is happy about the wheel thou. :D
It's no surprise.
I sometimes wonder what Singapore would be like today if the Esplanade theatres project had been cancelled(perhaps due to budget problems?).
huaiwei February 29th, 2004, 12:30 PM I doubt it would have made that much of a diff....the energy would just go elsewhere I think. ;)
RafflesCity March 1st, 2004, 12:55 AM yah dont think Singaporeans would have cared that much. Apart from us, the average Singaporean is quite nonchalant about such things:D
Cliff March 1st, 2004, 06:11 AM What you mean it just dies off like that???
The construction is supposed to start this year, but when I went up Millenia Tower, I saw nothing but grass on the site.
huaiwei March 1st, 2004, 09:41 AM We are not saying its dead lah....I think some of us are just getting paranoid! :D
RafflesCity March 1st, 2004, 07:13 PM Nobody said its not getting built. Its still early in the year and maybe the frequent rains has been delaying work? I am sure if its not happening the press will report it.
Nova Singapore March 4th, 2004, 08:12 PM Guys,
no good news on this one - the architect has been supposedly changed, don't know when and if the thing will finally progress (after all, for such a unique risk investment, the whole funding got to be ready before construction starts).
huaiwei March 4th, 2004, 09:24 PM Originally posted by Nova Singapore
Guys,
no good news on this one - the architect has been supposedly changed, don't know when and if the thing will finally progress (after all, for such a unique risk investment, the whole funding got to be ready before construction starts). Just curious, but where do you usually manage to source your string of "bad news" from? :D
RafflesCity March 4th, 2004, 09:32 PM Good news or bad news I guess the press will release further details.
redstone March 18th, 2004, 03:41 PM Btw ,what's the status on the Singpapore Flyer?:?
huaiwei March 18th, 2004, 05:47 PM Originally posted by redstone
Btw ,what's the status on the Singpapore Flyer?:? I think it is still on. That article talking about the $300B development think mentioned the flyer too, with no hint of negative news so far?
heirloom March 19th, 2004, 03:54 AM look what i found!!
http://www.am.joneslanglasalle.com/News/News%20Release%20Eflyer/2003/07jul/SGFlyer.jpg
eyetoeye March 19th, 2004, 03:58 AM Wow! It looks kind'a familiar... is the city really that 'green'? ;) And why are all the cars on the road red, white, blue or black?
Lol... nevermind... juts ignore me...
It looks really skinny....
heirloom March 19th, 2004, 04:00 AM and this small pic
http://www.rsi.com.sg/imagegallery/store/php2v7FHx.jpg
redstone March 19th, 2004, 06:10 AM What article?:?
The Flyer is supposed to start construction by Nov 2003.
kenmin March 19th, 2004, 06:25 AM Originally posted by huaiwei
I think it is still on. That article talking about the $300B development think mentioned the flyer too, with no hint of negative news so far? :eek:
b and m make a lot of diff.. :bash:
$300b is more than enuf for the building all the rail network liao lor...
redstone March 19th, 2004, 06:27 AM You can do lots of things with 300b!
RafflesCity March 19th, 2004, 06:28 AM Originally posted by huaiwei
I think it is still on. That article talking about the $300B development think mentioned the flyer too, with no hint of negative news so far?
Nah the $300 million is coming out from the government to develop infrastructure for the new downtown. The Singapore Flyer will be financed privately by a consortium of investors.
RafflesCity March 19th, 2004, 06:29 AM Originally posted by redstone
The Flyer is supposed to start construction by Nov 2003.
Its supposed to be completed by end of 2005, so still enough time..fingers crossed:cheers:
redstone March 19th, 2004, 06:36 AM Lets pray it comes up....
RafflesCity March 19th, 2004, 06:43 AM OMG!!! :eek2: :eek: That looks amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Great find heirloom!
@E2E, it really is that green as this pic shows. It will be built on that green patch.
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/photopost/data/504/9roofsuntec1.jpg
heirloom March 19th, 2004, 10:25 AM Originally posted by EyeToEye
Wow! It looks kind'a familiar... is the city really that 'green'? ;) And why are all the cars on the road red, white, blue or black?
Lol... nevermind... juts ignore me...
It looks really skinny....
hehe that composition of colours look more perth-y... all white cars.. boring as shit... shit more interestingg
it is skinny isn't it... i'm starting to warm up to this design now :D i think it'd be prettier without the podium.. but ... let's just wait and see.
eyetoeye March 19th, 2004, 10:53 AM It's definately not as sleek and sexy as i would've preferred....
heirloom March 19th, 2004, 11:10 AM i imagine if you stood perpendicular to the wheel and looked at it (from outside the podium) you'd see something that looks almost impossible... a huge wheel that manages to be balanced by two tall sticks...
eyetoeye March 19th, 2004, 11:12 AM Originally posted by heirloom
i imagine if you stood perpendicular to the wheel and looked at it (from outside the podium) you'd see something that looks almost impossible... a huge wheel that manages to be balanced by two tall sticks...
Erm.. kind'a hard to picture.. but i can imagine it would be pretty strange...
huaiwei March 19th, 2004, 11:35 AM Haha..sory for the typo....but that article talking about the marina south thing did mention the singpore flyer in the graphics lah...aiyoh.....of coz it didnt assume the money includes the flyer! :D
huaiwei March 19th, 2004, 11:53 AM Hey..I saw that picture in the news article recently! ;)
heirloom March 19th, 2004, 12:06 PM i stole it off the jones lang lasalle website..
eyetoeye March 19th, 2004, 12:08 PM Originally posted by heirloom
i stole it off the jones lang lasalle website..
Lol.... that's honest....
heirloom March 19th, 2004, 12:24 PM um no actually i drew it myself.
eyetoeye March 19th, 2004, 12:34 PM Originally posted by heirloom
um no actually i drew it myself.
excellent!
RafflesCity March 19th, 2004, 02:59 PM Originally posted by huaiwei
Hey..I saw that picture in the news article recently! ;)
How come its in the news again? What was the article about?:?
Cliff March 19th, 2004, 03:33 PM Nice picture!
huaiwei March 19th, 2004, 07:49 PM Originally posted by RafflesCity
How come its in the news again? What was the article about?:? the same article about Marina developments loh...I doint think it appeared in the online edition.
heirloom May 6th, 2004, 05:59 PM eh.. what architect change?!
huaiwei May 6th, 2004, 06:10 PM eh.. what architect change?!
Ah? what where who when?
heirloom May 6th, 2004, 06:28 PM Guys,
no good news on this one - the architect has been supposedly changed, don't know when and if the thing will finally progress (after all, for such a unique risk investment, the whole funding got to be ready before construction starts).
here lor
huaiwei May 6th, 2004, 06:39 PM here lor
Oh...that guy is usually someone bringing us all the bad news lah. But somehow he dosent substaintiate what he says after we are for more details?
heirloom May 6th, 2004, 07:10 PM ohoh.. who is he arh?
huaiwei May 6th, 2004, 07:21 PM ohoh.. who is he arh?
Some ang mo married to a Singaporean.....
heirloom May 7th, 2004, 04:05 AM is it? den why so boliao bring bad news without source?
CW8 May 7th, 2004, 05:31 AM Microsoft Paint.:)
MS Paint?? Man that's awesome. I avoid Paint whenever I can. Only used it for some technical drawings during my temp work. Otherwise Adobe products are best for graphics editing.
Love your illustrations man, they rule!! :D
redstone May 25th, 2004, 05:59 PM Any updates so far.It was supposed to start const in Nov 2003.But...
RafflesCity May 25th, 2004, 06:05 PM I dont think they said it would start construction end of 2003 did it?
I remember they said it will be ready end of 2005.
redstone May 25th, 2004, 06:09 PM I had emailed the STB about this ,but no reply.It has been almost 2 weeks or so.
RafflesCity May 25th, 2004, 07:26 PM you emailed? How about call them up.
redstone May 25th, 2004, 07:31 PM Dunno leh.
RafflesCity September 2nd, 2004, 06:08 PM This plan shows you the street layout and positioning of the Singapore Flyer. A fairly large site.
http://www.ura.gov.sg/waterfront/images/Appendix4_map.gif
redstone September 2nd, 2004, 06:17 PM So why so long no news yet?
RafflesCity September 2nd, 2004, 06:36 PM I guess the parts will be prefabricated elsewhere and assembled on site...but I have yet to check out the actual site myself...
huaiwei September 3rd, 2004, 03:58 PM This plan shows you the street layout and positioning of the Singapore Flyer. A fairly large site.
http://www.ura.gov.sg/waterfront/images/Appendix4_map.gif
Why I love this map! It even has dimensions of the bay! ;)
redstone September 3rd, 2004, 05:39 PM Buildings occupying a city block each?!
Bad idea!
huaiwei September 3rd, 2004, 05:42 PM Buildings occupying a city block each?!
Bad idea!
Where did you get that idea from....
redstone September 3rd, 2004, 05:44 PM The size of the blocks look small?
Must not be too grid-like, or else Singapore would look too American.
huaiwei September 3rd, 2004, 05:50 PM The size of the blocks look small?
Must not be too grid-like, or else Singapore would look too American.
You are crazy. Each of those blocks are at least twice as big as LPS. 8 of our existing buildings can fit into one block, so just how big do you want them to be??
heirloom September 3rd, 2004, 05:50 PM actually they are huge!!
redstone September 3rd, 2004, 05:52 PM Wow, Downtown project is so big? :eek:
From some aerial renderings they look like just a building each...
RafflesCity September 3rd, 2004, 05:57 PM Doesnt mean that the buildings will occupy the entire plots given to them. I bet most of these buildings will use the space to build spacious and attractive plazas. I hardly think the new downtown is necessarily about squeezing all the buildings together at street level.
huaiwei September 3rd, 2004, 05:57 PM Yes some of the plots will be for one tower, and they look "small" because they are...ironically, so big that they occupy such a huge footprint!
redstone September 3rd, 2004, 05:58 PM I can't wait for the City Park to be surrounded by buildings.Perhaps in say 30 years time?
babystan03 September 11th, 2004, 11:36 AM The Marina Square website do give a hint that we can expect the Singapore flyer to materialise.......
http://www.marinasquare.com.sg/aboutus/Corp_background.html (look at remodelled mall)
RafflesCity September 11th, 2004, 04:57 PM Yes its being mentioned repeatedly so I just cant wait!
and the new Marina Square looks very cool! :banana:
babystan03 September 11th, 2004, 05:01 PM Yes its being mentioned repeatedly so I just cant wait!
and the new Marina Square looks very cool! :banana:
About time(marina square i mean)......it beginning to look old....:yes:
RafflesCity September 11th, 2004, 05:03 PM Not to mention the construction works going on there are so irritating!
and the rooftop garden at the bridge is getting dirty :bash:
redstone September 11th, 2004, 05:26 PM Still no news when the wheel is going to start construction. :bash:
RafflesCity September 11th, 2004, 05:38 PM I dont think construction of the wheel will take that long
I heard the London Eye was prefabricated elsewhere then they ship the parts and put it together like a copnstruction kit.
heirloom October 22nd, 2004, 03:54 PM a night rendering
http://archive.rsi.com.sg/en/programmes/s_scene/Images/s_flyer01.jpg
RafflesCity October 22nd, 2004, 11:00 PM COOL find!
Imagine it being lighted up at night......
redstone October 23rd, 2004, 03:36 AM What's taking it so long? :bash:
heirloom October 23rd, 2004, 04:13 AM 2005 isnt' here yet mar.. although the article i read that came with the picture said they hoped the millenia station would open a little before the opening of the wheel.. i thought circle line would open in 2006 earliest and must now be delayed because of the accident?
PJCCUK October 23rd, 2004, 03:13 PM I heard from my consultant work that it may NOT get built. The govt sold the land to them for something silly like 1sing dollar! However, all there is is a memerandum of understanding. The sing govt is trying to drum up support so that people get excited and force the company to build. It'd be a big thing for a foreign leisure company to invest so much in such a landmark project abroad.
However, there seems to be a critical mass approaching. The new theme park on Sentosa, and then the new big casino (either near Orchard Rd, new cbd area or on the outer islands - whichever they choose). So foreign leisure companies are coming here and that makes the industry look this way, so we can expect more in the future.
I can tell you for a fact it won't be built without the mrt station being ready. Although we may see construction earlier but probably won't open till they've built the mrt and from what I hear, that walkway across the river too.
I'd say early to mid 2006 for it to be open and maybe late december for construction of the site.
huaiwei October 23rd, 2004, 03:25 PM Ah...I dunno if that should be good or bad news, but I would rather they build it later with a bigger captive audience due to connectivity then earlier and running empty all the time.
But for the bridge over the bay/reservoir....that is going to take many more years isnt it?
heirloom October 23rd, 2004, 04:42 PM aw.. pity. stupid circle line. i have a feeling if they just provided a shuttle bus from city hall traffic would still be very high though..
RafflesCity October 23rd, 2004, 05:36 PM I can tell you for a fact it won't be built without the mrt station being ready. Although we may see construction earlier but probably won't open till they've built the mrt and from what I hear, that walkway across the river too.
I'd say early to mid 2006 for it to be open and maybe late december for construction of the site.
sounds like they just wanna wait for the optimum conditions, but by then maybe another city (Shanghai I heard) wouldve built something bigger. I wonder if theyd then proceed with it if that happens.
Nevertheless I am optimistic about that site yielding something exciting :banana:
heirloom October 23rd, 2004, 05:40 PM somehow i hardly think they can back down after making so much fuss over it..
RafflesCity October 23rd, 2004, 05:48 PM somehow i hardly think they can back down after making so much fuss over it..
maybe, or they could just keep quiet as if nothing happened...I dont think the average Joe on the street is going to harp on it.
Who knows if the casino really opens this may be long forgotten...
Jandok October 23rd, 2004, 06:03 PM It would be much better if the Singapore Flyer is not built at Marina Centre but at the proposed promontory site at the new Bayfront Avenue, directly opposite to the Oriental hotel. From there the view towards Singapore's historic centre is much better, and the Flyer would be better integrated into the city skyline. Much more, it could boost the development of new downtown ...
RafflesCity October 23rd, 2004, 06:05 PM quite true and that makes sense, then theyd have incentive to speed up the bridge....
Jandok October 23rd, 2004, 06:28 PM ... if the foundation of the Flyer were at the westernmost point of the promontory site the cabins would be partly above the water of Marina Bay ... this would be something very special :)
heirloom October 23rd, 2004, 06:29 PM but dear me that would spoil their very perfect plans!
Cliff November 6th, 2004, 05:02 PM Actually, I don't really like the idea of a ferris wheel, Singapore is too sophisticated for an oversized amusement park ride. I would much rather have some sort of impressive beacon, much like the Statue of Liberty in NY, only more futuristic, but with the same purpose of welcoming the world to the city. It would be like a silver spire, piercing the sky and at night, beams of powerful light will shine from its tip, across the seas. It will still act as an observation structure.
heirloom November 6th, 2004, 05:12 PM i think the ferris wheel could be both oversized amusement park ride and impressive beacon mar.. if done well it could be very beautiful.
eyetoeye November 7th, 2004, 08:14 AM i think the ferris wheel could be both oversized amusement park ride and impressive beacon mar.. if done well it could be very beautiful.
If not, it'd look like some giant baby had too much milk and had to defacate on Marina Bay....
RafflesCity November 7th, 2004, 08:16 AM :rofl:
I think a huge Ferris wheel could have the potential to be wondrous at night, if they light up all the pods. They could also outline in in neon, just like Suntec City. That would help to break up the angularity over there.
heirloom November 7th, 2004, 08:20 AM dont outline in neon lar... just light the pods from inside in a very bright white light and make sure the pods are non reflecting.
eyetoeye November 7th, 2004, 08:22 AM Pr you could do what Japan does with it's ferris wheels and make the entire thing a shiny disc of rainbow-coloured hell....
heirloom November 7th, 2004, 08:25 AM uhuhuhuhuhh that's if you want to make singapore look like hong kong.
ignoramus November 7th, 2004, 01:10 PM Neon lights that are visible on the city skyline are a BIG NO NO! Why? Because it makes the entire city look like some gambling town.
If they insist on having neon lights, have them at street level instead. By doing so, they can retain the existing ''glam'' and posh factor of the Singapore skyline and yet enhance the atmosphere of the city at the street level at certain areas. Perks up the entire place.
I don't like the neon outline of the Suntec City Towers. I would have rather they just install floodlights at certain places aimed at certain parts of the building so that the towers can be seen at night. Something like what UOB Plaza Two is doing. Such yellowish orangish neon lights are more suited for places with olden day appeal like the Fullerton, not high rise skyscrapers.
ignoramus November 7th, 2004, 01:13 PM Pr you could do what Japan does with it's ferris wheels and make the entire thing a shiny disc of rainbow-coloured hell....
Japan did a good job at lighting up its ferris wheel though. Though I still prefer if the Singapore Flyer were lit up in white (looks so holy, so innocent, so posh, so glam, so cool), if they really do insist on colouring it up do it like Japan. Don't do it like some chinese new year festival red bright lights. Very cheena.
heirloom November 7th, 2004, 01:24 PM ooh if its sexy red glow i dont mind.. sexy red glowing orbs in a circle.
redstone November 7th, 2004, 01:28 PM I really wanna know when's construction gonna start...
RafflesCity November 7th, 2004, 03:33 PM white lights would be best. I dont want it tacky like Hong Kong
heirloom November 7th, 2004, 03:52 PM i hope there'll be like different lights for different occassions eg all red (a la eiffel tower) for chinese new year, all green (will be like parkview square) for christmas, purple for deepavali and uhhh hari raya colour.
RafflesCity November 7th, 2004, 03:53 PM lol hari raya colour...
Cliff November 8th, 2004, 03:55 PM I think the night rendering one is great, just so elegant! Keep it that way!
babystan03 December 20th, 2004, 04:54 PM Singapore Flyer, Singapore
Start Date: 2003 | Completion Date: 2006
http://www.arup.com/IMAGEBANK/image4885.jpg
Singapore Flyer will be a 150 metre diameter rotating giant observation wheel with 32 fully air-conditioned capsules, each capable of handling 25 passengers at a time.
The observation wheel will sit within a 3-storey terminal building at the base that will comprise of tourist-related specialty shops and entertainment outlets.
Special features will include elevated links to the new Millennia MRT station, waterfront taxis at Marina Bay Jetty, a bus terminal for 40 tour group buses and a parking building for 300 motor vehicles.
Arup drew on its world-wide experience from Australia, Japan, the UK, and Singapore to provide traffic, structure, civil, MEP and fire engineering services.
http://www.arup.com/IMAGEBANK/image4886.jpg
http://www.arup.com/IMAGEBANK/image4887.jpg
Arup worked with the client in the early feasibility stages of the project taking some of the speculative risk (in a success fee arrangement), in order to facilitate the realisation of the project.
The concept design stage for the wheel, and the associated terminal and car park buildings is complete with the next stage of design (the schematic design) taking place.
Custom-written computer software was used in the design to optimise the arrangement of tension spoke cables with the size and stiffness of the rim structure. The resulting structure will be lightweight and elegant, creating a new icon for the Singapore skyline.
Design challenges to come include ensuring occupant comfort under the 'Sumatra squall' wind conditions found specifically in the Singapore region. Extensive wind research and dynamic modelling will be carried out to ensure adequate performance in this respect.
The overall project value is S$200M and construction is expected to be complete by mid 2006.
http://www.arup.com/australasia/project.cfm?pageid=1571
hyacinthus December 20th, 2004, 04:59 PM Construction of the Singapore Flyer is on the way... See? They are clearing the land :banana:
http://img155.exs.cx/img155/7563/20041217p2a7nk.jpg
babystan03 December 20th, 2004, 05:03 PM ^Can't see leh.......:?
hyacinthus December 20th, 2004, 05:04 PM Hmmm... Do you think the casino will be built below the Singapore Flyer?
hyacinthus December 20th, 2004, 05:07 PM ^Can't see leh.......:?
Can you see it now?
http://img64.exs.cx/img64/1171/marina1arrow9en.jpg
babystan03 December 20th, 2004, 05:09 PM Hmmm... Do you think the casino will be built below the Singapore Flyer?
I dun think so......dun think the govt will select such an "convenient" location.....anyway I think Sentosa and Marina South more likely......:yes:
hyacinthus December 20th, 2004, 05:11 PM I dun think so......dun think the govt will select such an "convenient" location.....anyway I think Sentosa and Marina South more likely......:yes:
But, the night picture makes me think of Las Vegas.
huaiwei December 20th, 2004, 05:13 PM Er....that location is Marina East leh....
babystan03 December 20th, 2004, 05:14 PM Huh?? the flyer located at Marina East mair?? I thought it should be located somewhere near Ritz Carlton???
hyacinthus December 20th, 2004, 05:16 PM Er....that location is Marina East leh....
:laugh: Me Bai3 Wu1 Long2.
Hmmm... Why are they clearing the land?
hyacinthus December 20th, 2004, 05:19 PM Huh?? the flyer located at Marina East mair?? I thought it should be located somewhere near Ritz Carlton???
Sorry... my mistake ;)
http://img68.exs.cx/img68/1622/marina1arrow3li.jpg
babystan03 December 20th, 2004, 05:19 PM :laugh: Me Bai3 Wu1 Long2.
Hmmm... Why are they clearing the land?
Most probably new developments on the way........:yes:
redstone December 20th, 2004, 05:45 PM Start in 2003? :rofl: :bleep:
Now 2004 is ending in 2 weeks!
Jandok December 20th, 2004, 09:05 PM Most probably new developments on the way........:yes:
A new golf course will be built at Marina East. Unfortunately the following article is only available in Google's cache:
http://www.google.de/search?q=cache:rKJ8yR095pEJ:straitstimes.asia1.com.sg/columnist/0,1886,275-222682--1084744740,00.html+%22golf+course%22+%22marina+east%22&hl=en
hyacinthus December 21st, 2004, 02:02 AM A new golf course will be built at Marina East. Unfortunately the following article is only available in Google's cache:
http://www.google.de/search?q=cache:rKJ8yR095pEJ:straitstimes.asia1.com.sg/columnist/0,1886,275-222682--1084744740,00.html+%22golf+course%22+%22marina+east%22&hl=en
That's great! :)
Something to look forward to without having to pay hefty entrance fees and regular monthly fees... Now, where did I misplace that golf rules handbook... time for relearn the game again!
But, I wonder how interesting or challenging the course would be, since it's a flat piece of land? Any idea who will design the course?
hyacinthus December 21st, 2004, 02:08 AM Start in 2003? :rofl: :bleep:
Now 2004 is ending in 2 weeks!
They plan in 2003, design and get approvals in 2004, probably concurrently build the wheel somewhere (like Thailand) and its base in 2005, then transport the wheel by ship for installation... so should be in time for 2006 completion? hehe... :jk:
RafflesCity December 21st, 2004, 05:01 AM maybe the construction will be delayed to coincide with the opening of the MRT station
I had no idea they were building a golf course there! but possibly the Marina Barrage will be built along there too.
babystan03 December 21st, 2004, 05:05 AM Golf course?? Hmm I guess residents staying in the Sail and those at the staduim boulevard area will be frequent customers.......:yes:
redstone December 21st, 2004, 07:11 AM Golf course?!?! :bleep::rant:
Not again?!
Might as well expand the Downtown!
nicholasliha December 21st, 2004, 07:57 AM http://www.arup.com/IMAGEBANK/image4886.jpg
http://www.arup.com/IMAGEBANK/image4887.jpg
such a horrible waste of land around it dun you think? they could've sited it nearer the roads, instead of a big patch of flat land rendered undevelopable for other purposes, save ambling garden trails, boulevards and themeparks. I always thought that this prime plot of land, located at the confluence of the Kallang and MArina basins, could've been strategically packaged as a mega new BFC centre, like Dubai's fantastic business Bay. The views would've been fantastic! imagine living with two bays outside your window. Singapore ah, no imagery in developing her urban areas. Our promenade thing also quite unimaginative lei. I dun see any differentiating buzz about it.
RafflesCity December 21st, 2004, 10:38 AM http://www.arup.com/IMAGEBANK/image4886.jpg
http://www.arup.com/IMAGEBANK/image4887.jpg
such a horrible waste of land around it dun you think? they could've sited it nearer the roads, instead of a big patch of flat land rendered undevelopable for other purposes, save ambling garden trails, boulevards and themeparks. I always thought that this prime plot of land, located at the confluence of the Kallang and MArina basins, could've been strategically packaged as a mega new BFC centre, like Dubai's fantastic business Bay. The views would've been fantastic! imagine living with two bays outside your window. Singapore ah, no imagery in developing her urban areas. Our promenade thing also quite unimaginative lei. I dun see any differentiating buzz about it.
I do agree with you that the siting of it there seems rather arbitrary as that patch is really iconic...but i wonder what time will throw up...
hyacinthus December 21st, 2004, 11:02 AM But, where would you locate the wheel? It can't be too close to the skyscrapers or residential area. On the other hand can't be too far away to enjoy a good view of Singapore city.
RafflesCity December 21st, 2004, 11:09 AM yes the location is good for an observation point, just that i wonder if the remaining land there will have other uses, I'm hope there will be supporting recreational activities there though, its a very good site by the water :)
redstone February 12th, 2005, 04:26 PM What on earth happened to Singapore Flyer? :soapbox::cry:
It's gonna the biggest disappointment for fans like us....
Cliff February 12th, 2005, 04:40 PM Its model is all over the place, Sail showrooms, URA gallery, etc, why would it not be built?
redstone February 12th, 2005, 04:41 PM It says completion by end or mid 2005...
Now is Feb 2005 already!!! :soapbox::cry:
I emailed the STB many months ago on the status of the wheel, but never got a reply...
rark February 12th, 2005, 06:13 PM 1 word to summarize my feelings
" S I A N " haha....
so theres no construction or works on the proposed construction site?
How sad :'(
was anticipating it so dearly
RafflesCity February 12th, 2005, 09:12 PM someone here suggested that the opening might be delayed to coincide with opening of Millenia Circle Line station
Kit February 12th, 2005, 11:44 PM They finally realised that a copied icon doesn't make a good icon no matter what you name it?
Cliff February 13th, 2005, 04:22 AM They finally realised that a copied icon doesn't make a good icon no matter what you name it?
Somehow, thats actually funny!:D
nicholasliha February 13th, 2005, 08:34 AM oh good, i hope they forgot all about it. its shitty. it ought to go somewhere else like fort canning, overlooking bras basah. wouldn't that be so overwhelmingly photogenic? the juxtaposition of extreme tones of whimsicality?
Charging Bull March 20th, 2005, 11:38 AM Understand that both the Carlsberg Sky Tower (Sentosa) and Singapore Flyer are belong to the same developer.
My guess is:- they are using Carlsberg Sky Tower to test the market and might have found that the profit margin is not high enough.
But this project will still stand a chance if a world class Integrated Resort (Casino) is built at Marina Bay (just right opposite the site proposed for Singapore Flyer)
babystan03 March 20th, 2005, 11:41 AM Understand that both the Carlsberg Sky Tower (Sentosa) and Singapore Flyer are belong to the same developer.
My guess is:- they are using Carlsberg Sky Tower to test the market and might have found that the profit margin is not high enough.
But this project will still stand a chance if a world class Integrated Resort (Casino) is built at Marina Bay (just right opposite the site proposed for Singapore Flyer)
Hmm.....yeah......probably......but quite frankly I dun think I'll spend S$30 dollars just to be on the wheel loh(once maybe).........::lol:
redstone March 20th, 2005, 01:38 PM Flyer is built by STB.... :yes:
A govt project...........
Charging Bull March 20th, 2005, 01:52 PM This is a private investment, see below:
Category : Trade and Industry
Subject : Singapore Flyer
Suggestion : It is doubtful whether STB's touted newest Singapore attraction - the Singapore Flyer will be sufficient to attract tourists. Is STB running out of idea such that it has to build the Singapore Flyer? Why must we be a copycat? I understand that a similar structure in UK is suffering from a low number of visits from the public and tourists. What is so attractive about Singapore that it is likely to succeed while a similar structure in UK is suffering from a lack of visits?
While the private sector is building the Singapore Flyer, the government is giving the land to the company. Why should the government be involved in this project? Why should the government be wasting taxpayers' money by giving land for free to the company? If the idea is so good, the company will not need to share the risk with the government. I hope the government is getting a makret return by giving the land to the company. If it is not getting any return, the government should re-study the proposal. (This is better than increasing GST and lowering the employer's CPF contribution. I hope my GST increase is not used to sponsor the giving of land to the company.) From a bigger picture, the government should also study whether it should be involved in the Singapore Flyer project in the first place. My advice is that we should not repeat London's mistake. We should learn from it.
Date of Reply : 08/10/2003
Reply : Thank you for your suggestion regarding the Singapore Flyer. We agree with your concerns and appreciate the opportunity to clarify the issue.
The entire Singapore Flyer project is fully funded by the private sector. The project will be undertaken by an experienced and reputable international consortium led by Melchers Project Management Pte Ltd (MPM). STB"s role in this project is mainly to facilitate the land lease needed for the development of the project. Under the terms of the Memorandum of Understanding signed between STB and Melchers, STB will purchase the land needed for the Singapore Flyer and lease it to MPM, the project developer, on commercial terms.
STB firmly believes that the Singapore Flyer will add substantially to the diversity and vibrancy of attractions available to tourists and Singaporeans alike. Although the concept is similar to the London Eye, the Singapore Flyer (designed by famous Japanese architect - Kisho Kurokawa) will hold its own with a unique design that emphasises Singapore"s tropical environment and physical context. For example, the entire terminal building is characterised by an ecologically-sensitive design, from the roof garden (to ensure energy saving) to a rainforest garden in the inner courtyard, where the public can catch a glimpse of the landing stage of the wheel.
The S$200 million which Melchers will invest in the Singapore Flyer is the largest ever investment for Singapore"s attractions sector. Once completed, it will not only strongly enhance Singapore"s destination appeal and cement its reputation as a leading tourist destination in Asia, but will also have a long-term positive impact on our economy. For example, in its first year of operation alone, it is expected to draw more than 2.5 million visitors, of which half is expected to come from overseas. In terms of tourism receipts, it is expected to generate an estimated S$94 million in its first year. The project will create new jobs and have other knock-on effects for other sectors such as the construction and steel fabrication industries.
Based on a detailed feasibility study conducted by MPM, as well as the visitorship of the London Eye and other similar observatory attractions such as the Eiffel Tower and the Empire State Building, we are confident that the Singapore Flyer will succeed.
Since its inception in 2001, the London Eye has exceeded expectations to become the No. 1 paid attraction in London, and one of Europe's most successful attractions. It attracted 3.8 million passengers in 2001 and 4 million passengers in 2002; representing about 27% market share among all paid attractions in London, ahead of the next most popular attraction, Madam Tussaud.
I trust the above address the concerns raised.
Regards,
Chang Chee Pey
Director
Sightseeing and Attractions
redstone March 20th, 2005, 01:56 PM So now what's happened to it?
Charging Bull March 20th, 2005, 01:57 PM KIV case (Keep in View- army popular term)
redstone March 20th, 2005, 01:58 PM Oh, so awaitng the right time?
Charging Bull March 20th, 2005, 02:42 PM Private investor cares only dollar & cent, they will build if there is money to be made.
The project is a big ticket $200 millions project, need to strike "20" times 10 millions TOTO hongbao to get this kind of money
redstone March 20th, 2005, 03:46 PM I think it'll take off once the casino's in place......
nicholasliha March 20th, 2005, 03:51 PM the design idea so far sounds encouraging! and somemore by kisho kurokawa, i suspect it may feature lots of glass. but just dunno if he will do it with the right sensitivity to the whole tropical issue. afterall he is a japanese architect.
redstone March 20th, 2005, 03:53 PM Many buildings also have all-glass facades here.....
heirloom March 20th, 2005, 04:06 PM you can't really clad an observation structure in anything but glass..?
Cliff March 20th, 2005, 04:12 PM Many buildings also have all-glass facades here.....
Yes, but the windows are still at waist level, not sure why...
huaiwei March 20th, 2005, 07:05 PM Scared people fall lah. Anyway they probably had to delay it thanks to the tunnel collapse.
redstone March 20th, 2005, 07:08 PM Why delay due to tunnel accident?:?
RafflesCity March 21st, 2005, 09:55 PM Personally I think its novelty could fade very fast, especially for Singaporeans, unless perhaps they incorporate some other attractions by the site...but this project has gone quiet all this while after it was announced with a bang in 2003.
huaiwei March 22nd, 2005, 12:12 PM Well..the MRT station is delayed....so no surprise they have to relay this as well. And I agree....I seriously wonder just how long it can sustain ridership amongst locals.
RafflesCity March 22nd, 2005, 10:33 PM thing is some news articles continue to talk about it as a future attraction and its also seen in the Sail showroom, so right now it sounds merely delayed. Not that I'm losing too much sleep over it! :D
Charging Bull March 23rd, 2005, 04:11 AM Can no longer find any news on Singapore Flyer at the developer's website:
http://www.melchers.com.sg/cgi-bin/relocation.pl?url=http://www.melchers.com.sg/news.htm
huaiwei March 23rd, 2005, 09:57 AM Bochap...I want my viewing tower at Fort Canning!!! :D
Worlds of Earth March 23rd, 2005, 02:07 PM It is irritating that the URA, and by relation the govt, is far too pragmatic and sensible to even consider the more, say, creative (and therefore world-renowned) proposals that can only result from the easing or even elimination of building restrictions (height, floor area etc).
Loosen the binds, and creative energy will (probably) gush forth.
RafflesCity March 24th, 2005, 04:56 AM Bochap...I want my viewing tower at Fort Canning!!! :D
I would also support that as it can give more all-rounded views of the island compared to the Marina location. The area is also ancient and has more historical attractions than the reclaimed land ^^
maybe they dont want something tall enough to overlook the Istana?
redstone March 24th, 2005, 06:30 AM It is irritating that the URA, and by relation the govt, is far too pragmatic and sensible to even consider the more, say, creative (and therefore world-renowned) proposals that can only result from the easing or even elimination of building restrictions (height, floor area etc).
Loosen the binds, and creative energy will (probably) gush forth.
The govt isn't flexible... :soapbox:
Charging Bull March 25th, 2005, 07:39 AM The Initial/orginial idea from URA was to have a observatory tower at Fort Canning, but this idea was shot down by Singapore Flyer. Never expect Singapore Flyer to shot at its own foot.
http://www.ura.gov.sg/landmarks/page3.html
RafflesCity March 25th, 2005, 08:00 AM urrgh..Fort Canning observatory would undoubtedly offer a better view! :rant:
Charging Bull March 25th, 2005, 08:21 AM I did ask URA before, were told that this is only a conceptual plan.
RafflesCity March 25th, 2005, 08:28 AM well..I hope there is the flexibility and means to implement it if it proves worthwhile after evaluation. But I suppose the Singapore Flyer would take precedence for now huh.
Charging Bull March 25th, 2005, 08:44 AM The annoucement on 18th April 2005 will decide the fate of Singapore Flyer and Southern Islands development plan. Hope that they can go ahead with two Integrated Resorts.
When my overseas colleagues ask me where to go in the nite, can only tell them
"Night Safari" & "Mohammed Sultan Road", hope to tell them something new soon.
RafflesCity March 25th, 2005, 08:47 AM you think the Singapore Flyer is linked with the casino proposal? Someone else earlier said that the Singapore Flyer would be dependent on the opening of Millenia MRT station.
But looks like Abu Dhabi has just planned a ferris wheel thats going to be taller than Singapore's ^^
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=194396
Worlds of Earth March 25th, 2005, 08:55 AM Lets accelerate continental drift and get Singapore into a more temperate climate.
Charging Bull March 25th, 2005, 09:40 AM Worse still, Taiwan already has a 110m Ferris Wheel:
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/feat/archives/2005/01/13/2003219253
Tawian had never made any loud annoucement but instead built it quitely, this should be the way to go.
Problem with us :( (so many white elephant projects in Singapore)
1. They jump the gun and make too early annoucement before they have the cash in hand
2. Lack of proper market survey (Har Par Villa, Tang Dynasty)
3. Lack of full support from local authority (in term of funding, land & etc)
4. Lack of Sugar Daddy with deep pocket.
nicholasliha March 25th, 2005, 11:05 AM i have this gut feeling that ferris wheels should be free. otherwise no singaporeans will sit. maybe conceived as a bonus to singaporeans and tourists. like the way brunei sponsors healthcare. but of course if we go into that then we would rather healthcare receive more subsidy than have a feww ferris wheel ride.
Charging Bull March 25th, 2005, 11:26 AM Actually, both Millenia MRT & IR at Marina are important to Singapore Flyer:
Reason:
1. Millenia MRT solves the accessibility problem of the out of way Singapore Flyer
2. IR (casino) helps to bring in crowd/tourists to the Marina Bay.
This project will be viable if we can really bring in 17 million tourists as projected.
RafflesCity March 26th, 2005, 02:17 AM ^
indeed. It will be more likely catered for tourists..depending on the price they would charge for a ride, maybe some Singaporeans too. Oh well, they could have 'special events' to market it like a wedding in one of the capsules like they did on London Eye!
Cliff March 26th, 2005, 05:52 AM By 2006, will this be completed?
babystan03 March 26th, 2005, 05:56 AM By 2006, will this be completed?
I think at least by 2007......:yes:
Charging Bull March 26th, 2005, 06:28 AM Mr T (Tharman) mentioned November 2005 but Mr. V ( Vivian) said Mid 2006. Very confusing!!
http://www.mti.gov.sg/public/NWS/frm_NWS_Default.asp?sid=39&cid=1658
http://www.mti.gov.sg/public/NWS/frm_NWS_Default.asp?sid=39&cid=2078
redstone March 26th, 2005, 07:22 AM Huh?
So there's a possibility of the wheel completed in 2007? :?
Charging Bull March 26th, 2005, 07:32 AM The Focus (main course) is now on IR (Integrated resort), which according to a foreign investment bank, can easily generate $1.4b annual tax revenue. Singapore flyer is now only a side dish or dessert to them, I guess.
redstone March 26th, 2005, 07:34 AM IR includes casino???
Charging Bull March 26th, 2005, 07:38 AM Yes, just do the sum here:
One IR = $1.4B, 2 IR= $2.8b?
Singapore Flyer is only a private investment, not much tax benefit to them.
babystan03 April 1st, 2005, 12:08 AM Singapore Flyer opening in end 07 instead.......:yes:
April 1, 2005
Giant wheel project delayed
'Complexities' push completion date from year end to 2007
By Glenys Sim
THE Singapore Flyer, projected to be the world's largest and tallest revolving structure, will not be ready by the end of the year as originally planned.
The giant observation wheel is to be located along Marina Bay, next to the upcoming Millenia MRT station. The project's complexities have delayed construction of the 170m-high wheel, the Singapore Tourism Board's sightseeing and cruise director, Mr Chang Chee Pey, told The Straits Times yesterday.
'The Singapore Flyer project has taken a longer time than anticipated because of complexities in terms of both legal and financing arrangements.
'Mega-projects of this scale generally take several years to be completed, and similar projects such as the London Eye required about five to six years from the time of conceptualisation to its official opening,' Mr Chang added. He was referring to the 135m-tall observation wheel erected on the south bank of the River Thames in London.
Mr Chang said the $200 million project, expected to spur Singapore's tourism industry to greater heights, is a 'private-sector initiative' led by a company called Singapore Flyer Pte Ltd.
The company is a joint venture between German logistics and engineering services company Melchers Project Management and Orient & Pacific Management, a consultancy based in the British Virgin Islands.
The project was announced in June 2003 and work was supposed to have started in the third quarter of last year.
It was to have been completed by the end of this year but a new completion target has since been set for the third quarter of 2007.
Singapore Flyer Pte Ltd's managing director, Mr Peter Purcell, said the company is currently finalising the necessary documentation with its own partners.
The Straits Times understands that no local partners will be involved in the project.
When complete, the Singapore Flyer will afford a view - on a clear day - of as far as Johor, Batam and Bintan from its 32 air-conditioned glass capsules, which can each take up to 35 people.
The STB is expecting the Singapore Flyer to draw 2.5 million visitors, half coming from overseas, in its first year of operation.
'We hope the necessary documentation will be finalised soon and we are confident that the project will proceed as planned after that,' said Mr Chang.
Copyright © 2005 Singapore Press Holdings. All rights reserved.
redstone April 1st, 2005, 12:19 AM Hope this isn't a joke....
babystan03 April 1st, 2005, 12:22 AM ^
Nope it's not.....:yes:
redstone April 1st, 2005, 12:24 AM I wonder would it beat Shanghai Star (status? :?) and that one in UAE....
Charging Bull April 1st, 2005, 01:24 AM Look like the S$3b casino at Marina Bay will be completed before this $200 million Singapore Flyer.
What a amazing upset by a FAT tortoise (Casino) against a SKINNY rabbit (Singapore Flyer).
Reason for this upset: Rabbit has "BIG" mouth, talk a lot but cannot deliver.......
heirloom April 1st, 2005, 01:37 AM hrm this poor ferris wheel wont have a chance to be tallest anymore. no matter i just hope its exquisitely designed. maybe can also act as human catapult to the casino.
redstone April 1st, 2005, 02:14 AM I'll feedback again on the observation tower on Fort Canning....
Charging Bull April 1st, 2005, 02:31 AM No much chance for a observatory tower at Fort Canning, most of the space at the hill top has been taken up by a stupid reservoir.
We already have three: Sky Tower (Sentosa),Singapore Flyer (if they go ahead), 218m tower at Orchard Road.
Tan@Build April 1st, 2005, 05:18 AM it a pity that the singapore flyer could not be build by the end of this year and extended to the year 2007 could change our foreign tourist decision of visiting casino which is totally not use to our local people and currency :down:
RafflesCity April 1st, 2005, 07:40 AM Singapore Flyer now slated for completion by end-07
1 Apr 05
2-year delay due to financing issues which developer is close to resolving
By KALPANA RASHIWALA
THE Singapore Flyer - a giant observation wheel attraction planned for Marina Centre - has been delayed, owing to the project's complex legal and financing arrangements.
However, its developer, Singapore Flyer Pte Ltd, is close to resolving the financing issues and the main contract should be awarded soon, with a completion deadline by Christmas 2007, company director Patrick MacMahon said yesterday. The main contract is expected to be worth at least $150 million.
Originally, the $200 million observation wheel project was slated for completion in the fourth quarter of this year.
Talk of the project being affected by financing delays has been making the rounds for a while now. Singapore Tourism Board (STB), which announced the project in June 2003, yesterday denied setting a March 31 ultimatum for the project developer to get its financing in place. The ultimatum date was cited by sources whom BT spoke to.
Mr MacMahon said yesterday that the main contract (to be completed within 30 months) for the project will be awarded to a joint venture between Mitsubishi and Takenaka.
'The award is imminent, as soon as we get the financing issues out of the way - and these are under final negotiations,' Mr MacMahon said in a phone interview yesterday.
The financing involves both equity and debt financing, implying additional investors/shareholders in the company - which is 75 per cent controlled by German-based logistics and engineering services group Melchers. O&P Management holds the remaining 25 per cent.
The latter is part of Orient & Pacific Group, controlled by Australian Peter Purcell, formerly an Asia-Pacific partner with property consultancy group Jones Lang Wootton and who was based in Singapore.
Plans for the 170m-high observation wheel - which was inspired by the London Eye on the south bank of the River Thames - were first announced in mid-2003 when STB signed a memorandum of understanding with Melchers.
Mr MacMahon yesterday paid tribute to STB's 'outstanding support in all aspects of the project'.
STB director (sightseeing and cruise division) Chang Chee Pey acknowledged yesterday that, with hindsight, the 2 1/2-year completion timeframe first envisaged was over-ambitious. 'The London Eye required about five to six years to be completed, from the time of conceptualisation to its official opening in 2000,' he added.
STB will buy the site for the project from the Singapore Land Authority and lease it to Singapore Flyer Pte Ltd under a back-to-back deal. The length of the tenure will be 30 years with an option to renew for a further 15 years.
Mr Chang yesterday said that the STB has not taken possession of the land. While the legal agreement on this lease between the STB and Singapore Flyer Pte Ltd has been ironed out, it has yet to be signed, pending the latter finalising financing issues.
'So the ball is in their court, but we are hopeful this process can be concluded soon. And we are still looking at a foreign direct investment of $200 million as previously announced,' he said.
BT understands, however, that the latest development cost estimate may be about 5 per cent higher.
huaiwei April 1st, 2005, 10:08 AM Ah....some news is better than no news! ;)
RafflesCity April 1st, 2005, 01:03 PM I wonder if redstone constantly bugging them for info helped ;)
redstone April 1st, 2005, 01:04 PM I HAD emailed Melchers... :D
huaiwei April 1st, 2005, 02:29 PM And apparantly they got worried....:D
redstone April 1st, 2005, 05:09 PM Why? :D
Charging Bull April 4th, 2005, 06:48 AM Targeted revenue = $94 million, Visitors = 2.5 million
Per person need to spend: 94m/2.5m = S$37.6
原本预计在今年底完工的45层楼高“新加坡摩天观景轮”,将延迟到2007年才完工。
新加坡旅游局观光与游轮署长田子沛表示,工程延期完成的主要原因是,这个工程涉及复杂的法律和财务安排,因此比预料中需要更长的提前期(lead time)。
他说:这个工程涉及2亿元的外来投资,这类规模的大型工程往往需要好几年的时间来完成,类似的工程如‘伦敦之眼’(London Eye)观光摩天轮,从构思概念到正式开幕,也需要5、6年的时间。”
他指出,这是一项有私人企业推动的工程,主导这个工程的是由德国物流与工程服务公司美最时(Melchers)和英属维京群岛的发展商东方太平洋集团(Orient & Pacific)成立的合资公司新加坡摩天观景轮私人有限公司。该公司正在和合作伙伴订定有关的法律文件。
为了这项目,新加坡旅游局向土地局买下滨海城末端占地共3.37公顷地段,然后再租赁给“新加坡摩天观景轮”投资者——为期30年。
新加坡摩天观景轮的高度,约等于我国三大建筑物大华银行、华联大厦及共和大厦(280公尺)的三分二,可让游客看到新、马、印三国风景。
据发展商指出,这个计划中的世界级旅游景点并不是一般的 “摩天观景轮”(observation wheel),也不是主题公园里头的一般摩天轮(ferris wheel),因为它高达170公尺(约45层楼),建造技术难度很高。
摩天观景轮还将发射强力激光,为新加坡夜空创造辉煌色彩,同时一次可把多达800乘客徐徐送上高空,有如下一代巨型珍宝飞机,让人享受亚洲前所未有的37分钟高空观景色的乐趣。
摩天巨轮共有32个舱室,每个可容纳25名乘客。这项旅游业景点首年估计可吸引250万人次游客,并可在一年里为旅游业取得最少9400万元收益。
heirloom April 4th, 2005, 10:24 AM dont forget the commercial space..
Charging Bull April 4th, 2005, 11:04 AM Jones Lang LaSalle website said that the Singapore Flyer has a gross building area of approximately 16,000 sq m but didn't mention "net rent-able area".
huaiwei April 4th, 2005, 01:26 PM The papers today mention "with a mall".....yiaks.
Charging Bull April 5th, 2005, 04:53 PM Not sure how they get the 2.5 million visitors from?
Does it include "Good Brothers" during the Chinese seven months? :hahaha:
babystan03 April 5th, 2005, 04:57 PM Not sure how they get the 2.5 million visitors from?
Does it include "Good Brothers" during the Chinese seven months? :hahaha:
Choy.......:bash:
Including those would be billions......:lol: :jk: :jk: :jk:
Charging Bull April 5th, 2005, 05:02 PM The official opening date should be 1st day of Chinese 7 month
Win already!!!!! :hahaha:
That's why they said that official opening date will be on 3rd quarter of 2007.
babystan03 April 5th, 2005, 05:15 PM The official opening date should be 1st day of Chinese 7 month
Win already!!!!! :hahaha:
That's why they said that official opening date will be on 3rd quarter of 2007.
That would be official "opening" date for something else also.....:eek::lol: :jk:
heirloom April 5th, 2005, 05:19 PM what?
Worlds of Earth April 5th, 2005, 05:23 PM The Singapore Flyer doesnt even have that wow factor anymore...its has been relegated to second place.
redstone April 5th, 2005, 05:33 PM Not sure how they get the 2.5 million visitors from?
Does it include "Good Brothers" during the Chinese seven months? :hahaha:
Choy, choy, choy!!!!! :bash::bash::bash:
If it is true we might run into billions.... :jk:jk:jk::jk::jk:jk:
Perhaps the wheel looks like something? :lol: :jk:
Charging Bull April 5th, 2005, 05:34 PM Good, they will have some unknown Guest of honours in the night.
Free some more, guest that don't need to eat but volunteer to attend.
Worlds of Earth April 5th, 2005, 05:37 PM Have an empty row of seats for them.
Cliff April 5th, 2005, 06:12 PM Wait, with Abu Dhabi and Shanghai building theirs, I don't see the point of Singapore building her's anymore, I mean, we ARE proposing the world's THIRD tallest ferris wheel.
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