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December 5th, 2011, 09:20 AM
Korea2002, please post more updates regularly, including photo's. This is one of the major underrestimated towers! thanks!
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View Full Version : SEOUL | Lotte World Tower | 555m | 1819ft | 123 fl | U/C Polity December 5th, 2011, 09:20 AM Korea2002, please post more updates regularly, including photo's. This is one of the major underrestimated towers! thanks! korea2002 December 5th, 2011, 11:31 AM Korea2002, please post more updates regularly, including photo's. This is one of the major underrestimated towers! thanks! Okay. I will update lotte world towers specific photos soon possible(maybe i can update oand review all supertall projects on saturday because of bringing laptop. Wait! Anyone may update this thread without me! inno4321 December 5th, 2011, 11:41 AM I 1000% agree with you. While London is a really nice city, it's Shard is an ugly Slaughterhotel rip off, but fortunately by far not as ugly as the Slaughterhotel itself. On the other hand Super Tower is one of the most beautiful towers in the world even though it's in fact a Klingon Vor'Cha cruiser rip off :hahano: Agree with you kanto. london is one of the absolutely amazing city in the world. I hope visit to someday. My statement remains that it looks like Shard at first view than any other building, and there is no any exertion of mine claiming of rip off with that at all. I think both buildings are beautiful and great in their respective locations. If there are people who really appreciate and have much concerns for this building in this forum, I should be one of them. Indeed, I would like to see more images of the building as the construction progresses. Does anybody know why the foundation took that form of construction? It is very much different from the conventional foundations of most skyscrapers I have seen in this forum. Maybe foundation too large so that reason foundation also diffrent from ordinary construction. This is a large scale construction. Japan cities is also amazing. lovely standard cities. http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/4246/59705861.jpg (http://img571.imageshack.us/i/59705861.jpg/) Core Lower department store is going to open in 2013 Super tower is going to open in 2015 http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/2995/96150799.png (http://img713.imageshack.us/i/96150799.png/) Underground 1 floors core ACS system which 1 floors going up per 5 days http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/2505/45734997.png (http://img822.imageshack.us/i/45734997.png/) Core is too big. So that reason divided two part of core A and B. Above photos core "B"(underground 2 floors) http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/3305/55541789.png (http://img839.imageshack.us/i/55541789.png/) Department store's Underground 4~5 floors place for "RC WORK AND IRON WORK". http://cafe.daum.net/NS-14/PpnR/2?docid=1P1w7|PpnR|2|20111204180040&q=%B7%D4%B5%A5%BF%F9%B5%E5%C5%B8%BF%F6 Marathaman December 5th, 2011, 11:42 AM Logical thinking? India has immense inflation, economic slowdown and social unrest on it's doorsteps, this project will (most likely) not be picked up untill maybe the next decade. The reason for it being On Hold have nothing to do with the ones you've mentioned. The project is stuck with multiple legal issues and criminal proceedings against the promoters. VRS December 5th, 2011, 01:58 PM Clear photo of that construction korea2002 December 5th, 2011, 04:32 PM Clear photo of that construction Omg!!!!!! These photos are what i will update soon. thank you inno4321 you are doing good work instead of me. giovani kun December 5th, 2011, 04:41 PM looks like we have an important progress , the core has started to rise and fast :cheers: Good update Kimiwind1184 December 5th, 2011, 05:36 PM Remarkable progress. Thanks for the update. Kanto December 5th, 2011, 06:06 PM Wow, they're making the core so quickly. Inno thank you very much for the awesome news :cheers: krkseg1ops December 5th, 2011, 10:19 PM Wow, with this, Hyundai HQ, Seoul Lite, and Dreamhub, the city skyline will look really weird :D aquaticko December 5th, 2011, 10:49 PM http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/822/45734997.png/ ^^This is all the core??? Wow. With the way this tower tapers, is there going to be any room at the top? Edit: Gah. That picture insert...thingy doesn't work. KillerZavatar December 5th, 2011, 10:52 PM http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/822/45734997.png/ ^^This is all the core??? Wow. With the way this tower tapers, is there going to be any room at the top? Edit: Gah. That picture insert...thingy doesn't work. only the middle part, i think the first few floors are mall like and other stuff, the core is just the part in the middle. still fucking huge though Sid Vicious December 5th, 2011, 11:16 PM amazing progress patrykus December 5th, 2011, 11:32 PM Yeah only the stuff in green net is the core. This btw I think is the first core so big that it is made in stages :lol: In terms of size I'm pretty sure it bits shanghai tower, and ping'ans cores easily :cheers: Kanto December 5th, 2011, 11:45 PM ^^ That might be. I can imagine that South Korea might be targeted by terrorists so it is only good that they're making their buildings strong and safe :cheers: korea2002 December 6th, 2011, 11:21 AM ^^ That might be. I can imagine that South Korea might be targeted by terrorists so it is only good that they're making their buildings strong and safe :cheers: Me,too. As soon as later,korea will be political and diplomatic target for terrorists like al kaeda . JD47 December 6th, 2011, 06:38 PM Looks alot like the Shard in London. It looks cool and big. azn_man12345 December 6th, 2011, 10:09 PM Can a page go by in this thread where the Shard isn't mentioned? I get that they're both big and blue and decrease in size as they go up, but doesn't that describe most buildings going up these days? Sheesh. JD47 December 7th, 2011, 07:38 PM Can a page go by in this thread where the Shard isn't mentioned? I get that they're both big and blue and decrease in size as they go up, but doesn't that describe most buildings going up these days? Sheesh. Someone woke up on the wrong side of the shard this morning. The reason people say it is because its true and I am talking about the top not because its blue. Ed007Toronto December 7th, 2011, 09:13 PM One great looking building. aquaticko December 7th, 2011, 10:40 PM Well I think that the Bank of America Tower and Empire State Building look the same because they're both pointy on top.... C'mon people. CULWULLA December 8th, 2011, 12:04 AM love the top http://stat2.architizer-cdn.com/mediadata/projects/452010/r990x990/f7a0b568.jpg you can tell the height restriction was lifted http://stat2.architizer-cdn.com/mediadata/projects/452010/r990x990/c267301e.jpg http://stat2.architizer-cdn.com/mediadata/projects/262011/r990x990/3fd8cfdf.jpg http://stat2.architizer-cdn.com/mediadata/projects/452010/r990x990/adb08caf.jpg http://stat2.architizer-cdn.com/mediadata/projects/012010/r990x990/62b2d60c.jpg korea2002 December 8th, 2011, 11:01 AM Hey! Can you make a construction progress diagram about lotte world tower? Long time no see. Lotte world tower is going up basement 1 floor.thanks. KDreamer December 8th, 2011, 03:17 PM I'm moving back to Seoul in less than a week! Can't wait!! I will definitely check out the progress of this supertall. Love it! giovani kun December 8th, 2011, 03:28 PM ^^ well I guess that sometime next year we'll have an above ground work so we'll have a better view and a lot more photos of this project :) inno4321 December 12th, 2011, 06:59 AM ^^ well I guess that sometime next year we'll have an above ground work so we'll have a better view and a lot more photos of this project :) ^^ Department store is going to open in 2013 http://img805.imageshack.us/img805/7623/f7a0b568.jpg (http://img805.imageshack.us/i/f7a0b568.jpg/) KillerZavatar December 12th, 2011, 04:44 PM can't believe how far these buildings are towards each other, i thought the different projects were a lot further apart from each other. :cheers: aquaticko December 12th, 2011, 05:54 PM It's a trick of perspective. Going by Google maps, they're about 10-11km apart. The Hyundai Global Business Center is much closer to the Lotte Tower than the Yongsan development, almost right across the river (maybe 2-3km away). The supertalls are going to be pretty spread out in Seoul. korea2002 December 13th, 2011, 11:40 AM It's a trick of perspective. Going by Google maps, they're about 10-11km apart. The Hyundai Global Business Center is much closer to the Lotte Tower than the Yongsan development, almost right across the river (maybe 2-3km away). The supertalls are going to be pretty spread out in Seoul. Yes. I think seoul will be presented widespread skyline like tokyo. Tom_Green December 13th, 2011, 05:59 PM strange. I always thought towers with spires are not allowed in Seoul. inno4321 December 13th, 2011, 06:23 PM can't believe how far these buildings are towards each other, i thought the different projects were a lot further apart from each other. :cheers: Right above rendering is wrong very far from IBD strange. I always thought towers with spires are not allowed in Seoul. ^^ Right Every tower have to construct "Heliport" by seoul's building ordinace. But about 1years ago those ordiance deleted. Because "heliport" is useless more over ugly and strict building design and limited architecture. So no need heliport when building design. Therefore spire no problem. it's up to designer and owner:) zaguric2 December 13th, 2011, 06:27 PM Great! :cheers: phoenixboi08 December 14th, 2011, 01:14 PM Right above rendering is wrong very far from IBD ^^ Right Every tower have to construct "Heliport" by seoul's building ordinace. But about 1years ago those ordiance deleted. Because "heliport" is useless more over ugly and strict building design and limited architecture. So no need heliport when building design. Therefore spire no problem. it's up to designer and owner:) That's interesting. LA has had the same problem and is now moving to reverse that ordinance. I wonder how common such an ordinance was...was it for health/fire purposes? korea2002 December 15th, 2011, 11:43 AM in press Original News Title is ' Lotte World tower will apply with Technology,ACS' ACS means 'Auto Construction System' that explains Automatic Structure's Construction look like Burj Khalifa.(1 floors Construction per 3 days) http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/4341/nisi201112150005597632w.jpg o2cando December 15th, 2011, 01:21 PM ^^Yes. Update from CTBUH: Official Name: Lotte World Tower Height: 555m / 1819ft http://buildingdb.ctbuh.org/building.php?building_id=88 Kimiwind1184 December 15th, 2011, 06:20 PM That means it will be topped out roughly in 1 year time or maybe a little more? It will be interesting to see it rising as fast. krkseg1ops December 15th, 2011, 07:19 PM There is no such chance. Ever. Kimiwind1184 December 15th, 2011, 07:28 PM There is no such chance. Ever. Based on what? ZZ-II December 15th, 2011, 10:24 PM 10 years ago this tower would have been the worlds tallest by far....and now it will be at least the 4th tallest when completed :nuts: Myster E December 16th, 2011, 12:12 AM ^^^ Knowing others have bigger towers in the pipeline too, not forgetting Mumbai and the Indonesian proposals too! I think next year however, we will see a slight slowdown due to the health of the world economy. krkseg1ops December 16th, 2011, 01:06 AM Based on what? Based on math and physics. brianmoon85 December 16th, 2011, 01:49 AM Based on math and physics. equation and formula please~ citypia December 16th, 2011, 07:13 AM Based on math and physics. Prove it! Blizzy December 16th, 2011, 10:14 AM Obvious shit is obvious. No need to prove anything. citypia December 16th, 2011, 10:35 AM Obvious shit is obvious. No need to prove anything. If unproven, then it is obvious BULL SHIT. korea2002 December 16th, 2011, 10:38 AM That means it will be topped out roughly in 1 year time or maybe a little more? It will be interesting to see it rising as fast. Yes.I saw Lotte World Tower's Progress Schedule somewhere(I don't know now....^^) Next Year December-70 floor Completed(including Exterior Wall Cladding) 2013 December- Top Out(Completed Floor Construction). Although I think this,it is very fast Construction speed in accordance with ACS(Automatic Concrete System). And Lotte Group is emboding Automatic Construction System due to State of art IT and Futural Construction Facility. this work is FIRST and GREATEST Construction History in South Korean Supertall Field. Compared to Shanghai Tower and any other Ongoing Projects,Conclusion is that Lotte World tower will be rising up very fast Construction speed since 2012. Blizzy December 16th, 2011, 11:05 AM If unproven, then it is obvious BULL SHIT. You've gotta be pretty demented to ask anyone to prove you stuff like the fact, that tomorrow the sun will rise. Obvious shit is obvious, no need to prove it. Anyone with basic knowledge of construction, even based on the construction of other skyscrapers, knows the limit of construction speed. inno4321 December 16th, 2011, 11:35 AM That's interesting. LA has had the same problem and is now moving to reverse that ordinance. I wonder how common such an ordinance was...was it for health/fire purposes? ^^:) Heliport purpose for fire accident but there is no record for used heliport in seoul since seoul's history.:lol: But USA Cities maybe useful because aerocraft are common in america. patrykus December 16th, 2011, 11:42 AM You've gotta be pretty demented to ask anyone to prove you stuff like the fact, that tomorrow the sun will rise. Obvious shit is obvious, no need to prove it. Anyone with basic knowledge of construction, even based on the construction of other skyscrapers, knows the limit of construction speed. ^^ Yeah based on history of construction one may draw conclusion that this is highly unlikely, but keep in mind that this is korean construction industry we talk about. They build most challenging projects around the globe and for the projects of this magnitude this is very likely that they individually develop new construction technologies like faster ACS system, new quick curing concrete mixtures, new pumping techniques and more. Besides this fast construction speed includes only concrete structure construction, to that you still have to add time to construct the crown so the tower most likely won't be toped over in one year. Kimiwind1184 December 16th, 2011, 12:17 PM You've gotta be pretty demented to ask anyone to prove you stuff like the fact, that tomorrow the sun will rise. Obvious shit is obvious, no need to prove it. Anyone with basic knowledge of construction, even based on the construction of other skyscrapers, knows the limit of construction speed. Don't act like you know everything but actually you know nothing. Empire state builing was finished in 1 year time ----- 102 Floors (381 M). How they did that? Once the foundation is done, and which is the most demanding thing when building a structure, the rest is not as challenging and thus the speed of construction takes another pace. Lotte world tower would likely be topped out earlier than expected. Certainly before 2014. Blizzy December 16th, 2011, 12:29 PM ^^ Yeah based on history of construction one may draw conclusion that this is highly unlikely, but keep in mind that this is korean construction industry we talk about. Erm... Exactly. How long are we waiting for the Busan tower? Where are the Incheon twins? What's with IBC? Hyundai? Hakang Tower? Suyong Bay? And now what - I'm supposed to believe that they will build world's fourth tallest tower in a year? That's a good one. Blizzy December 16th, 2011, 12:51 PM Don't act like you know everything but actually you know nothing. Empire state builing was finished in 1 year time ----- 102 Floors (381 M). How they did that? I know how long it took, don't sweat. I also know, that you will not be able to find any other such example. My statement stands. I know how long it took to buyid 2IFC, USqPh7, Freedom Tower and other similar structures. I also know how fast the Chinese are buiding Shanghai Tower, and I find it extremely unlikey that anyone will even match their speed. Fortunately, all we have to do, is wait a year, to see that I was right. See you in 380 days :) Kanto December 16th, 2011, 01:01 PM C'mon folks, calm down, there's no need to start using nasty words :ohno: We don't know what construction techniques they gonna use so I think it is premature to speculate on construction speed. Once the above ground floors start rising we'll see approximately at what speed the tower will rise :cheers: patrykus December 16th, 2011, 01:23 PM Erm... Exactly. How long are we waiting for the Busan tower? Where are the Incheon twins? What's with IBC? Hyundai? Hakang Tower? Suyong Bay? And now what - I'm supposed to believe that they will build world's fourth tallest tower in a year? That's a good one. And what about Burj Khalifa or Taipei 101? Samsung also bidded for Kingdom Tower lately. The fact that they are not building towers in their country (well they do actually now - busan lotte town tower, this one and soon triple one) has nothing to do to the fact that there are most advanced contractor companies lacated in korea. The problem with towers in korea is more of the legal and political nature than their technological support. Concrete structure in little more than a year? That honestly seems doubtfull even for me. I am just against bashing that information just because it hasn't been done before. Korean companies allready proved they are important players in construction field. Lets just wait and see if they'll stick to their promises. And btw do we know what contractor is signed for this project? I somehow can't find that information anywhere. citypia December 16th, 2011, 03:40 PM Erm... Exactly. How long are we waiting for the Busan tower? Where are the Incheon twins? What's with IBC? Hyundai? Hakang Tower? Suyong Bay? And now what - I'm supposed to believe that they will build world's fourth tallest tower in a year? That's a good one. Well, you know, Incheon towers, Seoul Lite, Hyundai car motor tower and Youngsan project and whatever you mentioned......all are different and nothing to do with Lotte world tower here. Don't put them in same category. Just because they are projects in korea.(Actually, it is also nothing to with korean government.) They all fall into different categories. I mean they all NOT in the same league. They all proposed by diffrent private companies and have faced different situations. They are unrelated to each other. Let me give you a very easy example for you. There are five persons(A, B, C, D, E) in Poland. They all are strangers. Something similar things happened to A, B, C and D by chance. Then the same thing has to happen to person E? Just because E lives in Poland or based on the history of Poland? You get my point? Lotte contruction company is nothing to with SAMSUNG construction or any other projects in Korea. Lotte construction company doesn't have a histoty of building supertall unlike SAMSUNG construction. Therefore this is really good chance to promote them and compete other korean construction companies. They will do anything to show off for themselves, using many new technologies in this time. They are quite ambitious right now to become a world-class major construction player. They will not miss this goden opportunity. So we don't know yet, NOTHING IS OVIOUS! citypia December 16th, 2011, 03:59 PM Also, Busan Lotte tower is slowing down on purpose. Actually, Busan Lotte tower is a part of Busan Lotte town Project(on the 3rd stage of construction). People here only focused on only the tower. And prople ask " why didn't you start consturction? Lotte said, WE ALREADY STARTED! Ha ha...funny! People here split Busan Lotte town project part by part and consider nothing proceed. Lotte has her own plan. They control construction speed for their profit. aquaticko December 16th, 2011, 04:31 PM Erm... Exactly. How long are we waiting for the Busan tower? Where are the Incheon twins? What's with IBC? Hyundai? Hakang Tower? Suyong Bay? And now what - I'm supposed to believe that they will build world's fourth tallest tower in a year? That's a good one. I have my doubts about the proposed speed, too, but those aren't the right examples for comparison. Most of these haven't/didn't even start construction; we're talking about the speed of construction once it starts going. And like others have said, there's no use in judging before we know. Stay neutral and poopoo it later if it doesn't meet expectations. inno4321 December 16th, 2011, 06:28 PM And what about Burj Khalifa or Taipei 101? Samsung also bidded for Kingdom Tower lately. The fact that they are not building towers in their country (well they do actually now - busan lotte town tower, this one and soon triple one) has nothing to do to the fact that there are most advanced contractor companies lacated in korea. The problem with towers in korea is more of the legal and political nature than their technological support. Concrete structure in little more than a year? That honestly seems doubtfull even for me. I am just against bashing that information just because it hasn't been done before. Korean companies allready proved they are important players in construction field. Lets just wait and see if they'll stick to their promises. And btw do we know what contractor is signed for this project? I somehow can't find that information anywhere. ^^:) you are erudite. especially "The problem with towers in korea is more of the legal and political nature than their technological support." <--this comment with i'm 100% behind with you. great expalntion. ironicaly korean people hate "construction business and skyscrapers". Due to political reason (at the moment korea president came from president of construction company which hyundai. therefore korean dislike construction project) They called construction business as so called "토건족togunjok" means scorns to construction business. korea construction company is great but korean used to disgraceful for their own company. what a stupid they are Land owner is lotte. finacial investor lotte construction company lotte So probably contractor also lotte. by the way i little bit skeptical. because lotte construction have no experience to built supertall beside samsung. just my opinions korea2002 December 17th, 2011, 04:30 AM And what about Burj Khalifa or Taipei 101? Samsung also bidded for Kingdom Tower lately. The fact that they are not building towers in their country (well they do actually now - busan lotte town tower, this one and soon triple one) has nothing to do to the fact that there are most advanced contractor companies lacated in korea. The problem with towers in korea is more of the legal and political nature than their technological support. Concrete structure in little more than a year? That honestly seems doubtfull even for me. I am just against bashing that information just because it hasn't been done before. Korean companies allready proved they are important players in construction field. Lets just wait and see if they'll stick to their promises. And btw do we know what contractor is signed for this project? I somehow can't find that information anywhere. According to CTBUH Building Face Sheet(I know what I saw from other source) http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/8690/ssdfsdfdsf.jpg http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/5349/sdfdsfdsfdsfdsf.jpg Lotte World tower Owner The Lotte Group Developer The Lotte Group(Lotte Shopping,Lotte Corporation) Design Architect - Kohn Pedersen Fox Associates Associate Architect - Baum Architects, Engineers & Consultants(Tower Upper Part),서한종합건축사사무소(Basement Architectural Part) Structural Engineer - Leslie E. Robertson Associates(LERA) , 창민우 구조엔지니어링(korean Associate Company),Thornton Tomasetti,ARUP,천일기술단 MEP Engineer - SYSKA Hennessy Group,나라기술단, 삼우설비(Samoo Engineering) Fire Protect Engineer- 한방유비스,AON Other Consultant RWDI Material Supplier(Exterior Curtain Wall Worker) - ALT Cladding CM(Construction Manager)- hanmi Global Inc,Lotte Construction CM Department(롯데건설 CM사업본부),서한종합건축사사무소(고층부 토목/건축 감리),대호이엔씨(저층부 토목/건축 감리) Concrete Supplier - Hyundai Steel Tech Corporation(현대제철),미래건설,Asia Cement(아시아시멘트),and any other companies(i don't know) citypia December 17th, 2011, 05:11 AM ^^:) you are erudite. ironicaly korean people hate "construction business and skyscrapers". Due to political reason (at the moment korea president came from president of construction company which hyundai. therefore korean dislike construction project) They called construction business as so called "토건족togunjok" means scorns to construction business. I think that you overgeneralized and simplified it. There are many reasons against building supertalls in korea, not olny political reason. I mean, it is not that simple, really complicated actually. These are the main reasons which comes to my mind firstly. 1. There are the height restriction(sky limitations) district by district to protect national treasures or UNESCO cultural heritages. 2. There are some aviation regulations for the safety or defense policies against north korea. 3. There are some traffic impact assessments. 4. Sun blocking(access to sunlight) 5. The destructions of environments 6. According to city plan 7. Most people wants to put money for better quality of life instead of building supertall to show off. 8. Unbalnced developments And many more.... Lastly, some korean may not like the construction companies or current president but not every korean. People are quite different and have lots of differnt opinons. These days many people are not interested in politics, especially youngsters. And some people doesn't consider that supertall is a symbol of development or achevements anymore. inno4321 December 17th, 2011, 12:27 PM And people doesn't consider that supertall is a symbol of development or achevements anymore. Oh amazing you guy citypia u much more clever than "dear patrykus"!!!!! Because in my opinion "dear patrykus" exactly point out korea's problem which comment "The problem with towers in korea is more of the legal and political nature than their technological support." What a clever man citypia!! Ok you don't need "skyscrapercity web site" anymore. Don't you move to suburban and read the books with cow what a amzing suburban life. Don't waste your precious time in this thread :nuts: "people doesn't consider that supertall is a symbol of developmentor achevements anymore" ==> "anymore"? what kind of "anymore"? Are you jesus? Are you the origin of "B.C" and "A.D? So what about your opinion "skyscrapercity web site's dear member and dear moderator? Are they not "people"? Are they animal? Are you talked with "animal"? Give me a break man. This is not your diary this is supertall lover website Would you get out from here citypia December 17th, 2011, 01:48 PM Oh amazing you guy citypia u much more clever than "dear patrykus"!!!!! Because in my opinion "dear patrykus" exactly point out korea's problem which comment "The problem with towers in korea is more of the legal and political nature than their technological support." What a clever man citypia!! Ok you don't need "skyscrapercity web site" anymore. Don't you move to suburban and read the books with cow what a amzing suburban life. Don't waste your precious time in this thread :nuts: "people doesn't consider that supertall is a symbol of developmentor achevements anymore" ==> "anymore"? what kind of "anymore"? Are you jesus? Are you the origin of "B.C" and "A.D? So what about your opinion "skyscrapercity web site's dear member and dear moderator? Are they not "people"? Are they animal? Are you talked with "animal"? Give me a break man. This is not your diary this is supertall lover website Would you get out from here Are you talking gibberish in your sleep? You can make nothing of my words? I was just elucidating why people, NOT ME, are against building supertalls in korea. You know, I'm the member of SCC since 2002, almost 10 years by now. So I know at least why I am here exactly. People usually have various and different opinions. If some people diagree with you or have different opinions, don't describe them stupid. (I saw you mocked the current mayor of Seoul city here and there, calling him stupid and bring irrelevant political issues here on SCC.) Actually, I didn't mean to offend you. I'm sorry if you get offended. :) inno4321 December 17th, 2011, 02:26 PM If unproven, then it is obvious BULL SHIT. Actually, I didn't mean to offend you. I'm sorry if you get offended. :) You are welcome. Would you uploaded new photos which like "lotte super tower", "Seoul IBD" for SSC members rather than whining.:lol: brianmoon85 December 17th, 2011, 02:46 PM there are some really 자존심 강하고 무대뽀 정신 가진 사람들 here in this thread :lol::nuts: in this forum lol I do appreciate a couple Skyscrapers but I personally think it's really NOT that important. Not to be offensive but then how will you explain for example how China is viewed in thi world? Does building megatalls and towers in China explain or change people's current view on China?? Does 400-500m tall towers say "China is rich and technologically advanced and quality of life is AWESOME"? when still many of the population live in poverty or paid under wage and work in extreme conditions? HELL NO son I love skyscrapers but they are NOT a sign of success or achievement at any costs and I live in NYC (probably the home of the most unique, well-designed towers in the world) so I know what I'm talking about. And people can disagree, you're NOT always right at time, you're not Jesus Christ, God, Allah, nor Buddha :) citypia December 17th, 2011, 02:46 PM You are welcome. Would you uploaded new photos which like "lotte super tower", "Seoul IBD" for SSC members rather than whining.:lol: Babe, I have contributed to many threads, especially city photos sections before you brought few pictures from DAUM cafe recently here. I already have uploaded so many pictures so far. You, newbie, just don't know. I also saw your unnecessary Seoul thread which was almost filled with many renderings and somebody's U/C photos. Yes, I vividly remember you fought with Brianmoon. I already saw your true color there. Thanks anyway. :) inno4321 December 17th, 2011, 02:54 PM http://img861.imageshack.us/img861/5007/img0222i.jpg (http://img861.imageshack.us/i/img0222i.jpg/) http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/2715/p1090913d.jpg (http://img197.imageshack.us/i/p1090913d.jpg/) http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/2627/img0223v.jpg (http://img401.imageshack.us/i/img0223v.jpg/) http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/4720/p1090910v.jpg (http://img155.imageshack.us/i/p1090910v.jpg/) http://blog.naver.com/lhkny96?Redirect=Log&logNo=90127695517 http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/2681/dsc00803te.jpg (http://img163.imageshack.us/i/dsc00803te.jpg/) http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/5039/dsc0801w.jpg (http://img545.imageshack.us/i/dsc0801w.jpg/) http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/2625/dsc0802i.jpg (http://img208.imageshack.us/i/dsc0802i.jpg/) http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/8415/dsc0813f.jpg (http://img444.imageshack.us/i/dsc0813f.jpg/) http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/859/snc01338.jpg (http://img3.imageshack.us/i/snc01338.jpg/) http://blog.naver.com/lhkny96?Redirect=Log&logNo=90128628012 7.November.2011 http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/2712/000wr.png (http://img405.imageshack.us/i/000wr.png/) http://blog.naver.com/fmn19?Redirect=Log&logNo=70124888230 ?.?.2011 http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/5903/si857282l.jpg (http://img443.imageshack.us/i/si857282l.jpg/) http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/1929/dsc0225x.jpg (http://img80.imageshack.us/i/dsc0225x.jpg/) http://img804.imageshack.us/img804/6816/si857228.jpg (http://img804.imageshack.us/i/si857228.jpg/) http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/400/si857240.jpg (http://img824.imageshack.us/i/si857240.jpg/) http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/9600/si857246.jpg (http://img444.imageshack.us/i/si857246.jpg/) http://blog.naver.com/lhkny96?Redirect=Log&logNo=90127695517 Core work Kanto December 17th, 2011, 03:14 PM Oh my Libeskind, this is becoming a war zone :storm::guns1::gunz: aquaticko December 17th, 2011, 05:54 PM ^^This is a KPF design, not Libeskind. Kanto December 17th, 2011, 06:24 PM ^^ "Oh my Libeskind" is just a phrase like "what the Libeskind", "shut the Libeskind up" or "for Libeskind's sake" :hilarious inno4321 December 17th, 2011, 06:42 PM ^^This is a KPF design, not Libeskind. ^^ right this tower is a KPF design. I also looking forward to see KPF design in SEOUL IBD. Oh my Libeskind, ^^ Frankly speaking I laughed for 1 minutes without breathe when i read above your comment. Dude kanto i like your joke style! Except your joke concern "the cloud". <=== I'm kidding. :) In Libeskind we trust. Kanto December 17th, 2011, 07:44 PM ^^ LOL, thanks :tyty: Kimiwind1184 December 17th, 2011, 09:20 PM Oh inno4321, thank you for this beautiful pictures of the construction site. It brings back great memories wandering around Seokchon lake by early morning! Wanna come baaaackkkk <3! inno4321 December 18th, 2011, 09:33 AM Oh inno4321, thank you for this beautiful pictures of the construction site. It brings back great memories wandering around Seokchon lake by early morning! Wanna come baaaackkkk <3! ^^ You are welcome dear buddy!! You have a good memory with seoul. :) citypia December 23rd, 2011, 04:26 AM pictures by 마천루 pictures from DCINSIDE. December 22th, 2011 http://dcimg1.dcinside.com/viewimage.php?id=city&no=29bcc427b78777a16fb3dab004c86b6f0c84ca7046af80d61429127801fd0d27db4cebc886b501bd59a615053d69bdb860a1e7d5d43546f64094d033b7b6bfa5bbe0d8&f_no=7fed8177a8836aeb3ced96e458db343a http://dcimg1.dcinside.com/viewimage.php?id=city&no=29bcc427b78777a16fb3dab004c86b6f0c84ca7046af80d61429127801fd0d27db4cebc886b501bd59a64f0f6e6bb9e78fb055abf6e49b660be1956ee7ec1d0e70c686&f_no=7fed8177a8836aeb3ced96e758db343a Kimiwind1184 December 23rd, 2011, 05:55 AM Sunny day in Seoul =)! skyscrapercity December 23rd, 2011, 06:14 AM Sunny day in Seoul =)! ^^ kimi, I really LOVE your Seoul videos series. :okay: You are a video artist! :cheers: korea2002 December 23rd, 2011, 08:40 AM pictures by 마천루 pictures from DCINSIDE. December 22th, 2011 http://dcimg1.dcinside.com/viewimage.php?id=city&no=29bcc427b78777a16fb3dab004c86b6f0c84ca7046af80d61429127801fd0d27db4cebc886b501bd59a615053d69bdb860a1e7d5d43546f64094d033b7b6bfa5bbe0d8&f_no=7fed8177a8836aeb3ced96e458db343a http://dcimg1.dcinside.com/viewimage.php?id=city&no=29bcc427b78777a16fb3dab004c86b6f0c84ca7046af80d61429127801fd0d27db4cebc886b501bd59a64f0f6e6bb9e78fb055abf6e49b660be1956ee7ec1d0e70c686&f_no=7fed8177a8836aeb3ced96e758db343a very good shot.but although you can't see specified Building's Structure,Lotte World Tower will be rising up since 2012 January! I will get and update Progress do utmost. Kimiwind1184 December 23rd, 2011, 08:47 PM ^^ kimi, I really LOVE your Seoul videos series. :okay: You are a video artist! :cheers: Thank you very much for your compliment bro. Means a lot! I will try my best to upload more better and interesting videos :). Please check back regularly I'm going to update it every now and then. KDreamer December 24th, 2011, 05:41 AM Sunny day in Seoul =)! It was sunny and then it snowed all night- I swear I slipped over more than ten times! :nuts: korea2002 December 24th, 2011, 11:28 AM Today's Progress-Basement 1 floor(Main Core) rising up http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/4007/imag0250v.jpg KillerZavatar December 24th, 2011, 11:38 AM ^^ ready.... set.... rise ZZ-II December 24th, 2011, 12:09 PM great pic, will be great to see it rising next year :cheers: Eastern37 December 24th, 2011, 12:48 PM Great photo :) Have to say this is another one of those construction sites that really confuses me, but that just makes it more interesting to watch :) :cheers: Varghedin December 27th, 2011, 01:37 AM This one will quickly become a beast as it rises up. Look at that surface area. korea2002 December 27th, 2011, 12:11 PM http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/2757/largeiphonemedia.jpg Green Part-Supertall Tower's Core http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/6422/photopicker.jpg Kimiwind1184 December 27th, 2011, 02:31 PM This tower will look huge after 2 years from now. Wait and see. KillerZavatar December 27th, 2011, 03:23 PM This tower will look huge after 2 years from now. Wait and see. maybe the size freedom tower is now :cheers: ZZ-II December 27th, 2011, 04:25 PM Not to forget: this tower will be taller than the freedom tower including its spire :nuts: KillerZavatar December 27th, 2011, 06:27 PM Not to forget: this tower will be taller than the freedom tower including its spire :nuts: yeah and i think a lot more massive, considering freedom tower is slim and this one is a monster :cheers: Kanto December 27th, 2011, 09:41 PM ^^ I agree with you and I think the fact that much of the height of 1WTC is it's spire is the main reason for this. I don't think 1WTC is that much thinner compared to this tower :cheers: sic! December 27th, 2011, 09:47 PM this gonna be a thick thing, but a very nice one Vitacura December 27th, 2011, 09:59 PM It ressembles a little bit Costanera Center tower in Santiago, Chile. Kimiwind1184 December 28th, 2011, 01:49 AM It ressembles a little bit Costanera Center tower in Santiago, Chile. It doesn't. I don't see any similarity. phoenixboi08 December 28th, 2011, 02:33 AM It doesn't. I don't see any similarity. I do. Kurtkoto December 28th, 2011, 10:48 AM I do. there are similarities, not only in the design of the tower, but even on the sourroundings of both towers... Lion007 December 28th, 2011, 10:49 AM It will make wonderful skyline. Vitacura December 28th, 2011, 04:35 PM It doesn't. I don't see any similarity. Maybe you should look more carefully. ;) skyscrapercity December 28th, 2011, 04:49 PM Maybe you should look more carefully. ;) Actually, kimiwind1184 is the person who visited the construction site in Seoul in person, taking many pictures with his own eyes. I mean he knows the the tower and its surrouding very well. He knows much better than anybody who is judging by only few pictures here. Also, I don't think there is the similarity between two. :) jayabaluan December 28th, 2011, 05:54 PM super tower wit skyline..... Jakub December 28th, 2011, 06:27 PM It's quite obvious there is a resemblance not only to the Costanera Tower but to many others as well. There are many towers that narrow to the top and many that are a square in the floor plan section. There are also skyscrapers that have that slit on the corner too. It's not to annoy you. All these elements don't make the Lotte Tower unoriginal. The shape and its proportions are different and it already lasts to refresh the design. In my opinion the Lotte Tower design is very original and essential too. The cladding will play an important part, as usual. Regarding the site visitation. It is really nice that Kimiwind has been to Seoul, but I think that seeing the hole in the gorund can't make anyone a design expert. It must be an awesome and inspiring experience, but the detailed plans would be more helpful if you want to say something about the architecture of the future object. The genius loci is decisive, but so far we all just have a few pictures. Kanto December 28th, 2011, 08:52 PM In my opinion Lotte Super Tower is not even close to looking like the Costanera Tower :ohno: Also I'd like to note that Lotte Super Tower is a masterpiece but Costanera Tower is ugly. Myster E December 28th, 2011, 11:40 PM Today's Progress-Basement 1 floor(Main Core) rising up http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/4007/imag0250v.jpg That's one mighty construction site there, it just looks huge and i thought the Shanghai Tower base was huge. This must be one of the few supertall designs that hasn't been compromised much in height and design S Korea, bravo, absolutely love it brianmoon85 December 29th, 2011, 03:47 PM That's one mighty construction site there, it just looks huge and i thought the Shanghai Tower base was huge. This must be one of the few supertall designs that hasn't been compromised much in height and design S Korea, bravo, absolutely love it Just WOW~@_@ by next year Winter, we'll see something being risen +_+ Lion007 December 29th, 2011, 04:04 PM Great project in great progress.:cheers::cheers: Kimiwind1184 December 30th, 2011, 10:39 AM It's quite obvious there is a resemblance not only to the Costanera Tower but to many others as well. Don't make a fool of your yourself again. You're just making people laugh their ass with your unmature posts everytime. With one's eyes, even if you're looking at it from Pluto, it's clearly there is no similarity. (Sorry guys if that pisses you off but let's be rational). Have check at these two diagrams: http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=84323 (Lotte tower) http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=46521 (Costanerra tower) Do I need to explain more? Also, I've heard some folks here talk about a resemblance in the surroundings :lol:! OMG! Give me a break man. :cheers: trimetileno December 30th, 2011, 01:59 PM Don't make a fool of your yourself again. You're just making people laugh their ass with your unmature posts everytime. With one's eyes, even if you're looking at it from Pluto, it's clearly there is no similarity. (Sorry guys if that pisses you off but let's be rational). Have check at these two diagrams: http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=84323 (Lotte tower) http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=46521 (Costanerra tower) Do I need to explain more? Also, I've heard some folks here talk about a resemblance in the surroundings :lol:! OMG! Give me a break man. :cheers: Looking the diagrams, it's obvious that there are similarities between both towers: square plant, the curvature is quite similar (more in the lotte tower, but both of them have the same type of curvature), both of them are totally cladded, and the design of the roof is the same idea (in Shard London Bridge Tower too). It's not bad! In totally cladded towers is difficult to give them personality, but Lotte tower has it! Jakub December 30th, 2011, 06:14 PM Don't make a fool of your yourself again. You're just making people laugh their ass with your unmature posts everytime. Again? Put in some example, but not in PM. And by the way look at the last few post and analyse it. You will find at least reasonable degree of civility. I'm fine with your comment it doesn't affect me but I want to give you an early warning, just from indirect experience, that starting your response like this without a reason is like taking a first step to get a brig or a ban. Don't worry so far nothing serious has happened. There is just a risk that such a kind of attitude can evolve. Have check at these two diagrams: http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=84323 (Lotte tower) http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=46521 (Costanerra tower) Yeah eight years ago I had drawn my first skyscraper there so I know how it works. What do these two drawings present? This is exaclty what I or trimetileno have written. Nobody of us said the towers looks the same and we both think that Lotte Tower is very original. You misunderstand the meaning of a resemblance. Do I need to explain more? Sorry but you didn't even started. Edit: just made a slip in english. Kanto December 30th, 2011, 08:23 PM ^^ Even though I don't think Seoul Super Tower and Costanera Tower have anything in common I agree with you that Kimiwind used inappropriate language against you. Disagreeing is no reason to start flaming so Kimiwind please choose better words next time :cheers: Kimiwind1184 December 31st, 2011, 04:44 AM I apologize for my attitude towards you Jakub. But watch out your reactions toward my posts next time (I'm not talking about this thread only). Thank you. You should have guessed that. The diagrams make a good insight of how these two towers are far from to be similar. So technically I don't need to write a topic about that so you get the point. Ultimately, it's my mistake getting involved in these comparisons! I shouldn't give my opinion at first and let you guys think the way you want. Anyway, let's stick to the main topic and updates of this iconic tower. Jakub December 31st, 2011, 06:39 AM Okay apologies accepted, no big deal. Finally I just want to say we all see the Seoul Lotte Tower as a beautiful design so there is no point to converse in this way, but still I think a discussion can be stimulating. Kimiwind, I react mainly to a contents or an opinion at least I try to do so. That advice to use google earth was a funny thing actually, helpful too... I don't have to guess anything, I get your point all along, I know how the tower looks, the problem is you don't get mine. ZZ-II December 31st, 2011, 12:28 PM Just WOW~@_@ by next year Winter, we'll see something being risen +_+ We'll probably see a good progress in the next 3 months :) korea2002 January 1st, 2012, 06:23 AM http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/5039/40240921125155229342710.jpg phoenixboi08 January 1st, 2012, 06:38 AM What district is this? inno4321 January 1st, 2012, 06:41 AM What district is this? songpa khoojyh January 1st, 2012, 12:42 PM Deepest foundation in Korea? korea2002 January 1st, 2012, 02:12 PM Deepest foundation in Korea? maybe no.... I don't know. korea2002 January 1st, 2012, 05:02 PM http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/9177/imag0256r.jpg http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/5331/imag0254uk.jpg http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/9290/imag0255bz.jpg Notice-I can update Lotte World Tower's Construction Progress once a week possible. KillerZavatar January 1st, 2012, 06:26 PM Notice-I can update Lotte World Tower's Construction Progress once a week possible. k2k2 you rock :) giovani kun January 2nd, 2012, 11:22 PM Notice-I can update Lotte World Tower's Construction Progress once a week possible. ^^ That's more than OK. Thank you for your effort :cheers: Kanto January 2nd, 2012, 11:57 PM Thanks for the updates :cheers: inno4321 January 4th, 2012, 08:50 PM http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/6563/dsc04137xr.jpg (http://img703.imageshack.us/i/dsc04137xr.jpg/) http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/1141/dsc04138x.jpg (http://img31.imageshack.us/i/dsc04138x.jpg/) http://lavadancw.blog.me/120149270416 ^^5.January.2012:) korea2002 January 5th, 2012, 12:51 PM As you see,Lotte World tower's Main Core is rising up on Ground. Unbelivable scenery,The First Korean Supertall Building Project is more and more fast!! Congratulations Lotte!! Congratulate Korea! Notice : The Progress of this Building is building 1 floor per 3 days. it is fast progress! 2012.1.3 Construction Updates http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/6743/img1272ab.jpg Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! please write reply and emotion,opinion about Lotte World Tower's Ground Progress! ^^ Oncoming Progress of Lotte World Tower 2012 December : 70 floor Core Completed 2013 December : 123 floor Core Completed 2014 : Grand Opening of Lotte Mall 2015 : Curtain Wall's Configuration of Lotte World Tower(Cladding's Completion) 2016 : All Open(Completed) inno4321 January 5th, 2012, 02:04 PM As you see,Lotte World tower's Main Core is rising up on Ground. Unbelivable scenery,The First Korean Supertall Building Project is more and more fast!! Congratulations Lotte!! Congratulate Korea! Notice : The Progress of this Building is building 1 floor per 3 days. it is fast progress! 2012.1.3 Construction Updates Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! please write reply and emotion,opinion about Lotte World Tower's Ground Progress! ^^ Oncoming Progress of Lotte World Tower 2012 December : 70 floor Core Completed 2013 December : 123 floor Core Completed 2014 : Grand Opening of Lotte Mall 2015 : Curtain Wall's Configuration of Lotte World Tower(Cladding's Completion) 2016 : All Open(Completed) ^^ dear korea 2002 thanks for great update!!:lol: However seoul new idiot mayor mr monkey anti-development-ism. Today news he anti IBD anti hyundai 500m anti lotte chilsung anti opera house anti han-river renasence. I really hate seoul mayor:bash::bash: korea2002 January 5th, 2012, 02:09 PM ^^ dear korea 2002 thanks for great update!!:lol: However seoul new idiot mayor mr monkey anti-development-ism. Today news he anti IBD anti hyundai 500m anti lotte chilsung anti opera house anti han-river renasence. I really hate seoul mayor:bash::bash: thanks! inno! I think New Seoul Mayor(Mr.Park) will struggle Many Project's Rough Challenges. Kimiwind1184 January 5th, 2012, 07:26 PM Korea2002, I heard the Lotte supertower is slatted for completion and inauguration in 2015. I don't why you claim it will be until 2016! 1 Floor per 3 days makes 1 year and half estimated to reach the last floor, so basically it will be topped out way before December 2013. If they work parallelly on the interior, the building indeed will be completed around 2014 and opening will be right on early 2015. That makes more sense. KillerZavatar January 5th, 2012, 10:03 PM The First Korean Supertall Building Project is more and more fast!! South Korea already has two supertall buildings Northeast Asia Trade Tower and the biggest of the haeundae buildings. not to forget that north korea also has a supertall. so this wouldnt be the first supertall building :cheers: trimetileno January 5th, 2012, 10:10 PM As you see,Lotte World tower's Main Core is rising up on Ground. Unbelivable scenery,The First Korean Supertall Building Project is more and more fast!! Congratulations Lotte!! Congratulate Korea! Notice : The Progress of this Building is building 1 floor per 3 days. it is fast progress! 2012.1.3 Construction Updates http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/6743/img1272ab.jpg Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! please write reply and emotion,opinion about Lotte World Tower's Ground Progress! ^^ Oncoming Progress of Lotte World Tower 2012 December : 70 floor Core Completed 2013 December : 123 floor Core Completed 2014 : Grand Opening of Lotte Mall 2015 : Curtain Wall's Configuration of Lotte World Tower(Cladding's Completion) 2016 : All Open(Completed) !!!! Kimiwind1184 January 5th, 2012, 10:34 PM South Korea already has two supertall buildings Northeast Asia Trade Tower and the biggest of the haeundae buildings. not to forget that north korea also has a supertall. so this wouldnt be the first supertall building :cheers: He means currently U/C dunefreezer January 5th, 2012, 11:13 PM Beautiful Building, especially the top is terrific. Congratulations Korea, you have yet another supertall to be added to your portfolio in a few years. From now on, it will be more exiting as it reached the ground level, more or less. Munwon January 6th, 2012, 01:19 AM Awesome!!! Its amazing that Lotte World and Guangzhou East Tower are at almost identical stages in construction and are very similar in height. We should have an on-going bet to see which one will top out first. inno4321 January 6th, 2012, 01:27 AM http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/3356/c0e1bdc7bdb4c6dbc5b8bff.jpg (http://img638.imageshack.us/i/c0e1bdc7bdb4c6dbc5b8bff.jpg/) http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/5930/c0e1bdc7b7d4b5a5bdb4c6d.jpg (http://img341.imageshack.us/i/c0e1bdc7b7d4b5a5bdb4c6d.jpg/) http://blog.naver.com/lhkny96?Redirect=Log&logNo=90133008437 Beautiful Building, especially the top is terrific. Congratulations Korea, you have yet another supertall to be added to your portfolio in a few years. From now on, it will be more exiting as it reached the ground level, more or less. ^^ yeap this is top:banana: observation deck as you see above blueprint deck have two "walking sky" korea2002 January 6th, 2012, 11:36 AM by the way,why didn't Forumers focus Interest on Lotte World Tower? a few reply...... cheer Lotte World Tower Project.....:ohno::ohno::nuts: korea2002 January 6th, 2012, 11:51 AM http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/214/imag0273h.jpg http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/1300/imag0272acx.jpg http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/8729/imag0271m.jpg Green part is Tower's Main Core. Lotte World Tower's Main core will go up 70 floor within 2012. korea2002 January 7th, 2012, 05:48 AM no reply?? :ohno::ohno::ohno: dunefreezer January 7th, 2012, 07:03 AM lol dude, would you quit worrying if people look at your updates. We always do, and they are the real updates in this thread. So keep up your work and stop worrying as if your pictures are useless. patrykus January 7th, 2012, 08:01 AM Yeah, we appreciate any updates in this thread, so keep it up Korea ;) Maybe its not the most spectacular phase of the construction. I'm sure when it start making impact on the skyline there will be more replies :cheers: korea2002 January 7th, 2012, 11:27 AM Yeah, we appreciate any updates in this thread, so keep it up Korea ;) Maybe its not the most spectacular phase of the construction. I'm sure when it start making impact on the skyline there will be more replies :cheers: yeah. you're right.it is just commence of the Project... although it is amid circumstances,but it wil be more replies in this thread. thanks. chang4 January 7th, 2012, 12:34 PM Slightly off topic post: Korea2002 - thanks for the great updates ! Also - do you (or any other Koreans) know any details about a new 42 story project in Jeonu - if so please let me know. Thanks. I will be in Seoul this Monday so if I can I will look in on the Lotte Tower and take some pics. :) patrykus January 7th, 2012, 01:20 PM ^^ Try to go somewhere high ;) Lotte Hotel across the street would be good choice if you can afford it. SUNNI January 7th, 2012, 05:00 PM lol i was just creeping this thread.. nice updates dude :) korea2002 January 7th, 2012, 05:27 PM Slightly off topic post: Korea2002 - thanks for the great updates ! Also - do you (or any other Koreans) know any details about a new 42 story project in Jeonu - if so please let me know. Thanks. I will be in Seoul this Monday so if I can I will look in on the Lotte Tower and take some pics. :) Tip : try to go site through Lotte Hotel World or Lotte Department store Jamisil. you can see All Lotte Tower site through lifting elevator of Lotte Department store. please take many pics about Tower's Construction Progress. and I will send message about Jeonju 42-stories New Project soon. thanks! korea2002 January 8th, 2012, 04:28 PM in Today's Press,MBC News covered Tower Crane for Lotte World Tower. http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/2971/sfsfdsfdsf.jpg SUNNI January 9th, 2012, 01:21 PM wow, i still can't believe this is really happening.. finally a super tall in korea! :D korea2002 January 9th, 2012, 02:18 PM 2012/1/9 Lotte World Tower's Daily Progress http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/8981/imag0283q.jpg http://img848.imageshack.us/img848/8063/imag0284l.jpg http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/7391/imag0285g.jpg http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/4006/img0264qe.jpg Shopping Mall site http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/1599/img0265mu.jpg close up http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/2166/img0266k.jpg http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/2649/img1294xg.jpg http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/4243/img1295qx.jpg Lakeside http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/5545/img1297jr.jpg Atmosphere January 9th, 2012, 02:37 PM I'm in Seoul around May. Can anybody make a guess of which floor this thing will be then? korea2002 January 9th, 2012, 04:18 PM I'm in Seoul around May. Can anybody make a guess of which floor this thing will be then? maybe 30 ~ 35 floors... Kimiwind1184 January 9th, 2012, 05:24 PM Thank you for the photos. That's a good update from your part. Kanto January 9th, 2012, 05:31 PM no reply?? :ohno::ohno::ohno: Don't worry, we're here :cheers: I visit this thread regularily even though I'm not from Korea. I love the tower :cheers: giovani kun January 9th, 2012, 07:37 PM Fantastic update :cheers: Blue Flame January 10th, 2012, 03:30 AM maybe 30 ~ 35 floors... Hmm, this is a pretty huge building, I would say 10 ~15 floors is more realistic. May is less than 5 months away. ;) korea2002 January 10th, 2012, 10:49 AM Hmm, this is a pretty huge building, I would say 10 ~15 floors is more realistic. May is less than 5 months away. ;) because Lotte World Tower is applied Fast Constructon Track Method(Burj Khalifa style Construction Method),Lotte world tower's Core is rising up 1 floor per 3 days. So,I think Lotte World Tower is rising up to 35 floor... very fast Speed about Progress. Munwon January 10th, 2012, 01:08 PM Lotte World and Guangzhou East Tower are almost at the exact same stage of construction, and almost the same building height. Its uncanny! I wonder which project will top out first? KillerZavatar January 10th, 2012, 04:18 PM Lotte World and Guangzhou East Tower are almost at the exact same stage of construction, and almost the same building height. Its uncanny! I wonder which project will top out first? oh we should take bets on it. like a horse race, just that it takes years instead of half a minute of awesomeness xD recklesscognition January 10th, 2012, 09:14 PM Long time lurker, finally registered. I use to live within eye sight of this tower when I was in Korea for 5 years. I worked next door to it so have seen it from pre-development to now. Very exciting. I will be going back to my parents-in-law's house in February and again in April for 3 weeks each time and I will photograph the progress and anything else of interest and upload here. One question, what floor is the building at now? Have they started above ground yet, if not, when? Munwon January 10th, 2012, 11:33 PM 1f ^ inno4321 January 11th, 2012, 02:17 AM http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/7024/img0574epks72.jpg (http://img7.imageshack.us/i/img0574epks72.jpg/) Lotte tower connected underground square construction Connected between "lotte tower" with "lotte amuze park". Nov.2011~dec.2013 ChiguaYorkCity January 11th, 2012, 04:27 AM Oh my god!!!, I can't believe that there are (and there will be) so tall skyscrapers on the world korea2002 January 11th, 2012, 10:57 AM Long time lurker, finally registered. I use to live within eye sight of this tower when I was in Korea for 5 years. I worked next door to it so have seen it from pre-development to now. Very exciting. I will be going back to my parents-in-law's house in February and again in April for 3 weeks each time and I will photograph the progress and anything else of interest and upload here. One question, what floor is the building at now? Have they started above ground yet, if not, when? 2 floor above ground. chang4 January 11th, 2012, 12:33 PM 11/1/12 - this may be from a different angle to other shots http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n22/chang4pian4/SL382094.jpg http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n22/chang4pian4/SL382089.jpg http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n22/chang4pian4/SL382082.jpg http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n22/chang4pian4/SL382079-1.jpg korea2002 January 11th, 2012, 01:50 PM when you took pics? yesterday? korea2002 January 11th, 2012, 02:12 PM http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/447/sdffsfdsf.jpg chang4 January 11th, 2012, 03:21 PM when you took pics? yesterday? Hi. Yes - these were taken around 5 pm on the 10th of Jan. It looks like the tower itself is starting to rise above ground. This really is a massive construction site. I'm really looking forward to seeing this tower rise over coming months. khoojyh January 11th, 2012, 04:44 PM Site is really huge !! recklesscognition January 11th, 2012, 06:44 PM It Lotte Castle best place to take the photos? How high can you get in Lotte Hotel and see the site? loskongs January 11th, 2012, 11:32 PM That design is not by SOM. inno4321 January 12th, 2012, 12:58 AM what a amazing shot korea2002 January 12th, 2012, 01:39 AM It Lotte Castle best place to take the photos? How high can you get in Lotte Hotel and see the site? in Lotte Department Store maybe.. inno4321 January 14th, 2012, 01:11 PM http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/5883/20101122.png (http://img17.imageshack.us/i/20101122.png/) 2010.11.22 http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/9329/20101229.png (http://img337.imageshack.us/i/20101229.png/) 2010.12.29 http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/2521/20110117.png (http://img259.imageshack.us/i/20110117.png/) 2011.01.17 http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/4915/20110224.png (http://img687.imageshack.us/i/20110224.png/) 2011.02.24 http://img808.imageshack.us/img808/2664/20110331.png (http://img808.imageshack.us/i/20110331.png/) 2011.03.31 http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/3717/20110428.png (http://img854.imageshack.us/i/20110428.png/) 2011.04.28 http://img814.imageshack.us/img814/3139/20110527.png (http://img814.imageshack.us/i/20110527.png/) 2011.05.27 http://img859.imageshack.us/img859/4194/20110616.png (http://img859.imageshack.us/i/20110616.png/) 2011.06.16 http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/127/20110818.png (http://img163.imageshack.us/i/20110818.png/) 2011.08.18 http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/4075/20110915.png (http://img819.imageshack.us/i/20110915.png/) 2011.09.15 http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/9481/20111115w.jpg (http://img208.imageshack.us/i/20111115w.jpg/) 2011.11.15 http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/3762/20111215.jpg (http://img23.imageshack.us/i/20111215.jpg/) 2011.12.15 http://www.lottecorp.com/ korea2002 January 14th, 2012, 05:11 PM very good shot! Geass January 15th, 2012, 03:20 AM Very nice display of the progress, inno4321! Thanks! Kimiwind1184 January 15th, 2012, 07:49 AM Great concatenation photos, show the massive progress throughout the last months. Thank you Inno. kamsahabnida. briker January 15th, 2012, 09:21 AM nice progress korea2002 January 15th, 2012, 03:58 PM http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/3074/imag0291q.jpg http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/4411/imag0290sb.jpg Kanto January 15th, 2012, 05:30 PM I wonder what construction method this building will use. Will it's steel frame rise first like in the case of the WTC towers or will the core rise first? :dunno: giovani kun January 15th, 2012, 07:49 PM well that's the core rising there in the background (made of concrete ) as for the exterior part we'll have to see I bet it will be made of steal :) inno4321 January 16th, 2012, 06:13 AM I wonder what construction method this building will use. Will it's steel frame rise first like in the case of the WTC towers or will the core rise first? :dunno: I'm not sure...but Guess "core rise first" http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/6712/10101688.jpg (http://img526.imageshack.us/i/10101688.jpg/) Eastern37 January 16th, 2012, 10:44 AM Wow, seoul is incredibly spread out! aquaticko January 16th, 2012, 04:01 PM ^^Actually, it's the densest major metro area in all of the OECD countries. It's just a really big city that doesn't have a single center. Jongno-gu north of Namsan, Gangnam-gu (which means literally south of the river) and Yeongdeung-po are all sort of city centers in their own right, and developments like this tower in Songpa-gu (to the east of Gangnam) and the Yongsan IBD (labelled Seoul IBD in the picture above) pull the aim of a single central district for Seoul all over the place. KillerZavatar January 16th, 2012, 07:46 PM with the almost megatalls being so much spread around the city it will most likely be always one of them in the background visible on pictures of seoul :) but it also is quite sad that it wont be possible to capture all of them in one picture. Kimiwind1184 January 17th, 2012, 04:43 AM ^^Actually, it's the densest major metro area in all of the OECD countries. Are you sure? By the first glance, Tokyo is far more denser and have multiple city centers than Seoul. Seoul is definitely huge but you can't compare it yet to Tokyo. korea2002 January 17th, 2012, 11:15 AM with the almost megatalls being so much spread around the city it will most likely be always one of them in the background visible on pictures of seoul :) but it also is quite sad that it wont be possible to capture all of them in one picture. maybe,I think if Yongsan IBD is completed, Seoul will outperform Tokyo Area. korea2002 January 17th, 2012, 11:18 AM anyone who can take pics from Lotte World Tower's site? any updates? korea2002 January 17th, 2012, 11:57 AM Green Part is Main Tower's Progress. http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/3130/20120116121535.jpg http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/6038/20120116121551.jpg From Lotte World Tower's Public Exhibition Hall Shopping Mall site http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/2411/13343798.jpg Tower site http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/3656/dsc02212ag.jpg Kanto January 17th, 2012, 12:57 PM with the almost megatalls being so much spread around the city it will most likely be always one of them in the background visible on pictures of seoul :) but it also is quite sad that it wont be possible to capture all of them in one picture. Kinda like Hong Kong :dunno: phoenixboi08 January 17th, 2012, 02:15 PM Are you sure? By the first glance, Tokyo is far more denser and have multiple city centers than Seoul. Seoul is definitely huge but you can't compare it yet to Tokyo. Actually, I think it is officially Seoul....but that goes to what we talk about when we say "city"....I have no idea what criteria they use. aquaticko January 17th, 2012, 02:58 PM Are you sure? By the first glance, Tokyo is far more denser and have multiple city centers than Seoul. Seoul is definitely huge but you can't compare it yet to Tokyo. If you look at Wikipedia at least, Seoul has the densest city proper in the OECD, and if you look at the Seoul National Capital Area, which includes Seoul, Incheon, and Gyeonggi-do (which includes multiple other cities like Bucheon, Suwon, UIjeongbu, Seongnam, etc.), Seoul and Tokyo are about tied for density. The only reason the Tokyo metro seems bigger is because it's a much larger area. I think the reason Tokyo looks so much bigger is because it has a main skyscraper cluster (by the bay), and it's on a fairly flat piece of land, whereas Seoul is all hilly, nevemind being in sort of a basin which visually cuts it off from the rest of Gyeonggi-do. KillerZavatar January 17th, 2012, 03:07 PM Kinda like Hong Kong :dunno: but the tallest buildings in hongkong are all around two areas that are only divided by water. Kanto January 17th, 2012, 04:33 PM ^^ That might be, though I have never seen ICC and 2IFC being both in 1 pic :dunno: azn_man12345 January 17th, 2012, 10:23 PM It's not that hard at all. A simple Google or Flickr search is more than enough. Didn't you once say you had never seen a picture of Hong Kong's skyline? Yeah... You probably shouldn't talk about skylines if the only one you have an idea about is New York's. Kanto January 17th, 2012, 10:46 PM ^^ Well, now I have already seen quite a few pictures of Hong Kong's skyline. But I might have not seen pictures showing both ICC and 2IFC so I apologize if I'm wrong :cheers: Comeliness January 18th, 2012, 01:00 AM ^^ It's a huge project. korea2002 January 18th, 2012, 11:57 AM Courtesy of Naver Blogger http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/3255/sfsdfdsf.jpg http://img607.imageshack.us/img607/1997/img1311n.jpg Core http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/4813/img1314kg.jpg http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/8313/img1316ua.jpg http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/4329/img1315m.jpg Render http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/7122/img1317o.jpg korea2002 January 22nd, 2012, 04:29 PM http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/3387/iphone2j.jpg dc88 January 22nd, 2012, 05:52 PM looks like a tweezer. giovani kun January 22nd, 2012, 05:55 PM yep growing fast :) SUNNI January 26th, 2012, 01:32 AM looks like a tweezer. a bloody sexy one i might add korea2002 January 27th, 2012, 01:50 PM http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/3834/61314107.jpg Kanto January 27th, 2012, 02:16 PM ROFL, this tower has changed its name so many times that I'm utterly confused about it :nuts: JD47 January 27th, 2012, 02:27 PM I love this building:) TheZoolooMaster January 27th, 2012, 11:05 PM ROFL, this tower has changed its name so many times that I'm utterly confused about it :nuts: Yet it is still named after an infatuation. Is it possibly the only tower (excluding the other Lotte towers of course) of that kind? korea2002 January 28th, 2012, 12:59 PM http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/2970/20120128160137.jpg http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/7136/20120128151649.jpg http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/5091/20120128152446.jpg http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/1593/20120128160120.jpg http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/6445/20120128153556.jpg http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/2475/20120128153712.jpg 4 floor rising up! patrykus January 28th, 2012, 01:46 PM It's not like I'm complaining but it still doesn't look like one floor in every three days as they promised. But then again towers are usually slow at street level. Just wonder if they finally (if ever) reach that speed. That would be quite spectacular :cheers: Kanto January 28th, 2012, 03:13 PM ^^ From my experience on this forum I can tell ya that when dealing with underground floors and a few of the above ground floors one floor per month is nothing special. Just look how the WTC towers rise, since I came here towers 1 and 4 have grown like 50 floors yet towers 2 and 3 not even five :ancient: korea2002 January 30th, 2012, 11:33 AM 80% Completed Steel Concrete pouring works for 3 floor Automatic Construction system for 4 floor. krkseg1ops January 30th, 2012, 04:27 PM ^^ From my experience on this forum I can tell ya that when dealing with underground floors and a few of the above ground floors one floor per month is nothing special. Just look how the WTC towers rise, since I came here towers 1 and 4 have grown like 50 floors yet towers 2 and 3 not even five :ancient: Because WTC 2 and 3 still don't have tenants for office space. Kanto January 30th, 2012, 04:51 PM ^^ But that doesn't explain why they are rising so slowly to ground level which is planned to be built even in the absence of a tenant :dunno: krkseg1ops January 31st, 2012, 02:48 PM That actually explains most of it. They are not hurrying it because they don't have to. Speeding up the construction costs more money and since they don't plan on returning the costs quick, they might as well do it slowly. korea2002 January 31st, 2012, 03:12 PM http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/9966/c4ee1.jpg http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/5863/c0fac3fe.jpg http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/2861/bedc1.jpg Seoul is snowy today. Core Progress A zone-3 floor 80% Completed B zone-4 floor preparing Visual Mock-up Test is being displayed in outward. this means Curtain Wall(Cladding) of Lotte World Tower. http://blog.naver.com/lotte_tower korea2002 January 31st, 2012, 03:12 PM http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/6326/99132799394884702.jpg patrykus January 31st, 2012, 03:22 PM Visual Mock-up Test is being displayed in outward. this means Curtain Wall(Cladding) of Lotte World Tower. Hope someone can post some better pics of the cladding samples :cheers: citypia February 1st, 2012, 05:30 AM Construction Updates-2012-1-31 Seoul is snowy today. Core Progress A zone-3 floor 80% Completed B zone-4 floor preparing We can compare how fast Lotte tower is going up. Core prossess, 6th floors Picture by brian100111 (picture taken January 31st or February 1st) http://dcimg1.dcinside.com/viewimage.php?id=city&no=29bcc427b78477a16fb3dab004c86b6f796a88214a115547a60ae0c3334a9c76a64af3ecd068c6799e00fbcfb575c28dc132dfd522553ffcb7837741af9e42&f_no=0490f719b48768f120b5c6b2 korea2002 February 1st, 2012, 12:33 PM http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/8403/dsfsdflp.jpg I will go Lotte world tower's Construction site tomorrow. inno4321 February 7th, 2012, 12:16 AM http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/1601/86915243.png (http://img856.imageshack.us/i/86915243.png/) http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/8827/img20120205160716.jpg (http://img205.imageshack.us/i/img20120205160716.jpg/) http://blog.naver.com/wkdud4545?Redirect=Log&logNo=120151828504 korea2002 February 7th, 2012, 01:48 AM http://img804.imageshack.us/img804/2913/sany1001.jpg (http://img804.imageshack.us/i/sany1001.jpg/) http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/5901/sany1002z.jpg (http://img17.imageshack.us/i/sany1002z.jpg/) http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/7936/sany1003.jpg (http://img846.imageshack.us/i/sany1003.jpg/) http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/5743/sany1006y.jpg (http://img585.imageshack.us/i/sany1006y.jpg/) http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/8956/sany1007.jpg (http://img189.imageshack.us/i/sany1007.jpg/) http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/3430/sany1009.jpg (http://img3.imageshack.us/i/sany1009.jpg/) http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/2301/sany1010b.jpg (http://img833.imageshack.us/i/sany1010b.jpg/) http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/9239/sany1011a.jpg (http://img684.imageshack.us/i/sany1011a.jpg/) http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/4787/sany1013.jpg (http://img851.imageshack.us/i/sany1013.jpg/) http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/7436/sany1014x.jpg (http://img593.imageshack.us/i/sany1014x.jpg/) http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/7663/sany1015r.jpg (http://img855.imageshack.us/i/sany1015r.jpg/) http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/4900/sany1018k.jpg (http://img840.imageshack.us/i/sany1018k.jpg/) http://img857.imageshack.us/img857/2256/sany1019a.jpg (http://img857.imageshack.us/i/sany1019a.jpg/) http://blog.naver.com/lhkny96?Redirect=Log&logNo=90135413357 http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/1601/86915243.png (http://img856.imageshack.us/i/86915243.png/) http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/8827/img20120205160716.jpg (http://img205.imageshack.us/i/img20120205160716.jpg/) http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/9500/20210206gif.jpg (http://img841.imageshack.us/i/20210206gif.jpg/) http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/7277/sam0520z.jpg (http://img840.imageshack.us/i/sam0520z.jpg/) http://blog.naver.com/wkdud4545?Redirect=Log&logNo=120151828504 this is my pics! Munwon February 7th, 2012, 09:49 AM Wow! This was first proposed back in 1989... thats dedication!!! dunefreezer February 8th, 2012, 02:48 AM Its coming out the hole. Awesome. This will be something the Koreans will be proud of. Beautiful crown. Jay February 8th, 2012, 02:49 AM This tower will look awesome, love the tapering korea2002 February 9th, 2012, 08:39 AM http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/3134/p1100119t.jpg http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/909/p1100120z.jpg http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/3509/p1100121a.jpg Central Part of the Core will install One Tower Crane. korea2002 February 9th, 2012, 09:30 AM http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/3166/alb5avbcqaaqjwj.jpg Core Tower Crane was broken. korea2002 February 9th, 2012, 09:39 AM POSCO Wins the Full Order for the Rolled Steel Required for the Construction of Lotte World Tower (123 Floors Above-Ground, 555m tall) - 40,000 tons to be supplied until its completion slated for 2015 - Cutting edge technology of using steel to be provided POSCO has secured the full-order for the rolled steel required for the construction of Lotte World Tower (see the bird`s eye view below). With 123 floors planned for above-ground, and six below, Lotte World Tower, to be built in Jamsil, Seoul, is to be the world`s second tallest building, behind UAE`s Burj Khalifa. The construction is planned to be completed by 2015, using 40,000 tons of rolled steel including regular and thermo mechanical control processed (TMCP) steel. The Lotte World Tower project is a mega project that requires cutting edge construction technology from around the world both in the design and construction. Consequently, steel used in the project must have good anti-shock capability and be able to withstand high-winds and fire. POSCO, with a keen grasp of the special features of steel required from the initial stages of the project, worked with List Steel Structure Lab to propose the adoption of extra thick plates including the 800? high-performance grade steel and 120mm thick regular plates, and steel column flat plate structure as well as module-type steel piping POSCO also opened a briefing session regarding the quality control plan and the features of building-use steel, where the benefits and features of its on-site support and the excellence of the steel being used in the construction was explained, earning the plaudits from the construction experts in attendance. Moreover, there are good prospects for the construction-stage, with the Lotte World Tower being fitted with 120mm thick large-scale concrete slabs at the ground-floor level, which, as they are already mass-produced, should be in secure supply. Initially, Lotte Construction, which had previously undertaken the project, was planning to use between 40mm and 80mm thick plates welding together. However, the use of two thick plates welded together incurs welding and input costs, resulting in weakening cost competitiveness. This is why POSCO suggested instead the use of 120mm thick high-performance grade steel (SM490TMC). In addition, POSCO decided, and Lotte Construction agreed, that it would produce 120mm plates using a facility that used to produce 80mm high performance steel, with internal quality tests and QA consultation applied on them and supply them to Lotte. POSCO was able to show to the world the superiority of its high-performance steel plates, through its winning of the full-order for their use in the construction of the Lotte World Tower. It has also enabled POSCO to build its reputation as a total solution provider, through the way it responded to the construction brief. Furthermore, it raised its status in providing more value to customers and using steel application technology by meeting all the needs of customers in areas such as steel sales and proposal of key technologies for better use of steel and higher constructionability. Looking ahead, POSCO is on course to strengthen its marketing of high-rise construction projects through EVI (Expanded Value Initiative for Customer), and is planning to position itself with the USP of an expert in thick-plate construction. Ji-yoon Kim ikyijy@posco.com (Materials = Marketing Strategy Office) TMCP Steel As the thickness of steel used in construction increases, there needs to be greater quantities of alloy elements in order to maintain its strength. Due to this, the carbon-equivalent increases, while the welding quantity decreases. Accordingly, instead of reducing the amount of alloy elements provided, using appropriate controlled rolling and accelerated cooling will strengthen its existing strength while also improving its weldability. Steel produced through such a thermal processing control is called TMCP steel. Generally, for 50 kg of rolled steel, in order to reduce the alloy elements, TMCP manufacturing is used, with SM490TMC, SM520TMC, and SM570TMC also being available. Polity February 9th, 2012, 10:02 AM Lotte World Tower, to be built in Jamsil, Seoul, is to be the world`s second tallest building, behind UAE`s Burj Khalifa Isn't the Shanghai tower destined to top-out first? saleko February 9th, 2012, 11:21 AM Amazing tower. Actually pretty nice tower. How exactly is this Tower gonna be used? Can't wait the completion. saleko February 9th, 2012, 11:22 AM Dopost korea2002 February 11th, 2012, 05:27 AM http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/7574/dsc00814fd.jpg Seokchon Lake http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/9639/dsc00815yr.jpg please reply my pics!! thanks! armyv February 11th, 2012, 09:42 AM please reply my pics!! thanks! Hi Korea, I 'm a silent observer of our great pics. Great work, keep it up! The Soul lotte construction site is a realy komplex one, like the NY WTC site. The progess is good. Was someone injured by the TC crane fail? I'd like to see pictures instead supid comments ala " wow" "great progress" btw. Greets KDreamer February 11th, 2012, 10:06 AM 사진을 잘 나왔네요! 계속 찍어줘서 감사합니다! So at what speed is the construction happening at the moment? Has it finally geared up? I wanna know when I'll start to see this tower on the horizon on my way home ;) JD47 February 11th, 2012, 11:26 AM Isn't the Shanghai tower destined to top-out first? Even if the Shanghai tower does top-out first I thought The Tokyo Sky Tree was the second biggest in the world. korea2002 February 11th, 2012, 11:31 AM Hi Korea, I 'm a silent observer of our great pics. Great work, keep it up! The Soul lotte construction site is a realy komplex one, like the NY WTC site. The progess is good. Was someone injured by the TC crane fail? I'd like to see pictures instead supid comments ala " wow" "great progress" btw. Greets Yes.A bit Crane shock(by Crane User's Careless mistake). see the pics constantly.thanks haha. korea2002 February 11th, 2012, 11:33 AM 사진을 잘 나왔네요! 계속 찍어줘서 감사합니다! So at what speed is the construction happening at the moment? Has it finally geared up? I wanna know when I'll start to see this tower on the horizon on my way home ;) Core : 1 floor Construction per 3 days(The way applied in Burj Khalifa) Geass February 11th, 2012, 11:46 AM Seokchon Lake http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/9639/dsc00815yr.jpg please reply my pics!! thanks! A lake, cool! Can you tell me more about it? Are boats forbidden and are there any fish there, shallow or deep? Did not expect such a lake just outside the tower, I bet it will be a nice view. [EDIT]: When I look at the picture in the OP, I can see the lake but also more water next to it(not the river), what is that? I better check out google.maps. patrykus February 11th, 2012, 12:27 PM Core : 1 floor Construction per 3 days(The way applied in Burj Khalifa) He asked what it is the speed now. I really doubt it is 1 floor per 3 days. How many floors they constructed already? 7? 8? That makes at most 1 floor per week. I'm not sure when they have constructed first floor exactly. KillerZavatar February 11th, 2012, 01:32 PM Even if the Shanghai tower does top-out first I thought The Tokyo Sky Tree was the second biggest in the world. tokyo sky tree and canton tower are both not considered buildings, but freestanding towers, so they do not count for the title of world's tallest building :cheers: dunefreezer February 11th, 2012, 01:41 PM Shanghai tower will be the second tallest if it is completed before this one. Don't forget the one in Mecca that already stands at 601 m. So when this one gets built it will be fourth tallest or lower. Height is not a big deal. You get a beautiful tower, that's what matters. I think it will be one of the sexiest buildings along with Burj Khalifa, Shanghai Tower, Shard, India Tower, kingdom tower, IMO. And yeah free standing structures like Tokyo Tower, CN Tower are not included. korea2002 February 11th, 2012, 02:37 PM A lake, cool! Can you tell me more about it? Are boats forbidden and are there any fish there, shallow or deep? Did not expect such a lake just outside the tower, I bet it will be a nice view. [EDIT]: When I look at the picture in the OP, I can see the lake but also more water next to it(not the river), what is that? I better check out google.maps. shallow lakes. korea2002 February 11th, 2012, 02:41 PM He asked what it is the speed now. I really doubt it is 1 floor per 3 days. How many floors they constructed already? 7? 8? That makes at most 1 floor per week. I'm not sure when they have constructed first floor exactly. from Lotte Construction,I don't know. because of ACS(Auto Climbing System-1 floor per 3 days). Burj Khalifa's Construction applied with ACS.although Construction speed is not fast exactly,Construction will faster than any other Supertall Building's Progress. Current Progress : 5 floor Climbing korea2002 February 11th, 2012, 02:43 PM Shanghai tower will be the second tallest if it is completed before this one. Don't forget the one in Mecca that already stands at 601 m. So when this one gets built it will be fourth tallest or lower. Height is not a big deal. You get a beautiful tower, that's what matters. I think it will be one of the sexiest buildings along with Burj Khalifa, Shanghai Tower, Shard, India Tower, kingdom tower, IMO. And yeah free standing structures like Tokyo Tower, CN Tower are not included. yeah. you're right.Height is not important deal,but Design or National Symbol? KDreamer February 11th, 2012, 04:20 PM from Lotte Construction,I don't know. because of ACS(Auto Climbing System-1 floor per 3 days). Burj Khalifa's Construction applied with ACS.although Construction speed is not fast exactly,Construction will faster than any other Supertall Building's Progress. Current Progress : 5 floor Climbing Ah ok. Thanks for the info. When will it start to have an impact on the skyline? Kimiwind1184 February 11th, 2012, 05:38 PM It will take about 15 months I reckon. hmerlino February 11th, 2012, 06:38 PM He asked what it is the speed now. I really doubt it is 1 floor per 3 days. How many floors they constructed already? 7? 8? That makes at most 1 floor per week. I'm not sure when they have constructed first floor exactly. First 6 floors go slow. After that it all speeds up. dunefreezer February 11th, 2012, 08:21 PM yeah. you're right.Height is not important deal,but Design or National Symbol? I don't quite get your question. Regardless of its height, this design will become Korea's national symbol. But it is freaking tall. ;) giovani kun February 12th, 2012, 12:18 AM that core is huge :nuts: seaniscoming February 12th, 2012, 02:49 AM I don't quite get your question. Regardless of its height, this design will become Korea's national symbol. But it is freaking tall. ;) Not many koreans think so. This tower was and is still considered a kind of public enemy in korea, especially on internet bulletin board. There are so many haters out there in korea. :ohno: dunefreezer February 12th, 2012, 03:00 AM Are you serious? Why do they hate it? It is like the Puss in Boots which you can never hate. Lol The Koreans don't realize that they are getting something which many countries in the world still dream about. seaniscoming February 12th, 2012, 04:53 AM Are you serious? Why do they hate it? It is like the Puss in Boots which you can never hate. Lol The Koreans don't realize that they are getting something which many countries in the world still dream about. Of course, I am 100% serious. I am NOT one of them. :lol: Please, don't hate me. J/k :lol: The biggest of their complaints is the location of this tower, which was in the korean air force course. Plus, there are many haters of Lotte Group that the company build this tower. That's why it took so long to get the approval this tower. Anyway, many korean don't care supertalls, at least people around me. They think supertalls are nothing special, just tall buildinngs, nothing more nothing less. Therefore, there is nothing to dream about. korea2002 February 12th, 2012, 05:57 AM Ah ok. Thanks for the info. When will it start to have an impact on the skyline? 2013 Year. eltodesukane February 12th, 2012, 10:37 PM Not many koreans think so. This tower was and is still considered a kind of public enemy in korea, especially on internet bulletin board. There are so many haters out there in korea. While they were building them, Paris didn't like the Eiffel Tower, New York didn't like the Statue of Liberty. Things change... Kimiwind1184 February 12th, 2012, 10:52 PM While they were building them, Paris didn't like the Eiffel Tower, New York didn't like the Statue of Liberty. Things change... Seconded. korea2002 February 13th, 2012, 12:34 PM http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/1074/sany00040001.jpg http://img848.imageshack.us/img848/1743/sany00050001.jpg http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/4184/sany00070001.jpg 5 Floor rising! KDreamer February 13th, 2012, 04:49 PM ^^ Nice photos! I can't wait for this to take shape, so I can start to properly envision what it's going to look like! korea2002 February 14th, 2012, 11:42 AM http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/5082/allr39bciaenyqc.jpg |