New supertall for Seoul!

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Illustration by KPF (http://www.kpf.com/)

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Illustration by KPF (http://www.kpf.com/)

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http://ifd-arch.blogspot.com/2011/04/architecture-skyscraper-lotte-jamsil.html

Render collection:

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Source-http://www.inhabitat.com/2009/10/21/tallest-building-in-asia-revealed-for-seoul-south-korea/lotte-super-tower-8/#

Architect-www.kpf.com
Developer-Lotte Group(Lotte E&C)-http://www.lottecon.co.kr/eng/main.aspx


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Is this a different project than the Lotte supertall proposal for Busan?

Is this a different project than the Lotte supertall proposal for Busan?

Yes! Busan Lotte Tower has got 510 meters....

correct. but is it sure approved? when yes, do you know the planned date for construction start?

How about a source saying that it's approved?

What an intriguing design. Square base, circular top through diamond-shaped facades. :okay: wheeee, nice tower.

correct. but is it sure approved? when yes, do you know the planned date for construction start?

Nobody knows.....:ohno:

http://www.emporis.com/en/wm/bu/?id=lottesupertower-seoul-southkorea

Well I'm sure it's nice to have a big tall tower in your town and all and not faulting anyone for feeling some pride about that but this thing seems to try to do too much and ultimately for me it fails miserably, it looks like a friggen smokestack.

If you do not like negative posts, stop reading now.

This thing looks like an artsy-fartsy waste paper basket or the cooling tower at a nuclear power plant designed by a gay jewler at Tiffany's. The design sucks on so many of its 112 levels.

Fortunately, none of the Lotte proposals ever seem to materialize anywhere but on paper so I don't have to worry about it ever being built. Lotte talks a big game, but he doesn't ever produce.

it's too like the old version of beijing WTC3.

This is an example of trying to be too original...

interesting design!!

Wow, with all these gigantic skyscrapers being approved or u/c, the top 10 that's been around for so long will be forgotten soon.

cool !

Nice project!!

very interesting design, from rectangle to circle!

I like, but is not brilliant....:ohno:

Did you knew the project?

If you do not like negative posts, stop reading now.

This thing looks like an artsy-fartsy waste paper basket or the cooling tower at a nuclear power plant designed by a gay jewler at Tiffany's.

...



I agree with you, and that's why I like this tower. It is different. I can't wait to see how it will look when it's finnished. But I'm sure it will look better than those modernism towers from the seventies :cheers:

...

Skidmore, Owings & Merrill did the great job again, but I think it's over scale compared with the surrounding.

Weird shape...

:eek2: :eek2:

Hope it gets built.

when will the construction start?

when will the construction start?

We don't knows:ohno:

construction end will be in 2013.....

Chicago Spire end in 2010. It has 610 meters!!!

:nuts:

sorry i posted the date in the wrong thread :D. 2013 is the completion date from the Busan Lotte Tower ^^.

sorry i posted the date in the wrong thread :D. 2013 is the completion date from the Busan Lotte Tower ^^.

Ok, ok... :nuts:

Emporis doesn't see the end year....
Emporis no dice el año que termina de construirse.... (se que en inglés lo he escrito mal.... :nuts: )

man does this have Fordham Spire all over it.....thats money in the bank for Skidmore and his friends....first Chi-Town and now international in Seoul.

Here's a better render.

http://www.aecbytes.com/viewpoint/2007/issue32-images/fig5.jpg

cool building!

Original design and beautiful shape as well

The cladding puts me in the mind of the 2003 version of the Freedom Tower. Anyways, nice design.

original but looks kinda weird...

Looks great to me. I like Seoul's projects very much.

I've seen the other renders of that tower. I think some of those are better than the one at Brendan's post. I don't know, I feel like it's just weird, just my opinion anyway.

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/news.php?ref=998

Lotte World Tower To Become Seoul's Tallest

Published on 2007-07-07

These are the first images of the latest design of what will be one of the tallest buildings in the world, the Lotte Super Tower in Seoul, South Korea, if built.

Designed by leading architects Skidmore Owings & Merrill, the tower will be 555 metres tall tapering gently from a wider base. The shape of the building is also manipulated starting off with a square floor-plate of 70 x 70 metres and gradually morphing into a circular 40 metre one as the height progresses.

Responding to the shrinking floor-plates, the building uses which require the largest areas such as office and retail will be located at the bottom of the tower whilst the upper floors will be set aside for hotel accommodation and a viewing platform. In total it will be 15% retail, 50% office, 30% hotel and 5% for the observation area.

The appearance of the building is dominated by lattice-work that takes on the look of a diagrid, famously used in 30 St Mary Axe in London and less creatively but just as famously in a defining SOM skyscraper, the Hancock Tower in Chicago.

This webbing of metal has one major advantage over the traditional steel-framed buildings of having much stronger structural strength so less metalwork can be used and building costs are saved by the developer.

The diagrid can also be configured by the architect in the design process to adapt to such things as structural loads in a way that a more stricter frame could not. This was seen in action with 30 St Mary Axe which actually shrunk a fraction of an inch when completed as the frame compressed slightly to hold the weight once gravity kicked it and it settled into the site.

Responding to potential strains on the Lotte Super Tower, SOM has designed the structural columns so they are steepest at the bottom to take into account the gravity loads and shallowest at the top to take stresses from the wind in a process called "vortex shedding" that manipulates the wind flow.

At night the superscraper will be particularly stunning. A lighting scheme has been designed where the diagonal cross-bracing that wraps around the tower will be lit up with a series of white lights like a Christmas tree. At the top, beams will shoot up from the crown illuminating the sky above as if the structure finishes in a torch light.

Particular attention has been paid to the base that will have blue uplighters but also a deeper red colour scheme on the interior of the lowest levels, creating a feeling of depth through the facades and cross-bracing as well as expressing the complex structure visually.

The Lotte Group are already a major developer within Korea with a number of large towers on their portfolio but this one will be one of the tallest buildings in the world if it is actually completed. That could however be another story - Korea has a long and illustrious history of proposing enormous towers that fail to get off the ground.

Even if the scheme is never realised it's a far cry from the earliest origins of Lotte, that of a chewing gum and confectionary manufacturer in Japan in 1948, and a victory of sorts that shows the smallest starts can lead to the grandest designs.



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Hmmm looks like Hearst Magazin Tower mixed with Fordham Spire......but i'm sure it will not get build like the thousands of other supertalls proposed in SouthKorea.

I dont like it that much, its too reminisient of the old freedom tower design.

^ Awesome renders :cheers: Thanks a lot!
Hope this stunning thang will rise soon.

I'm not a big fan of that crown, but otherwise it's one of the best proposals that I've seen this year.

fantastic news, i believe it'll be built :)

and 70 x 70 metres on the base :eek:!!

fantastic news, i believe it'll be built :)

and 70 x 70 metres on the base :eek:!!

really

Hmm the base looks like the one of the Freedom tower..

Lotte World Tower To Become Seouls Tallest
Published on 2007-07-07

These are the first images of the latest design of what will be one of the tallest buildings in the world, the Lotte Super Tower in Seoul, South Korea, if built.

Designed by leading architects Skidmore Owings & Merrill, the tower will be 555 metres tall tapering gently from a wider base. The shape of the building is also manipulated starting off with a square floor-plate of 70 x 70 metres and gradually morphing into a circular 40 metre one as the height progresses.

Responding to the shrinking floor-plates, the building uses which require the largest areas such as office and retail will be located at the bottom of the tower whilst the upper floors will be set aside for hotel accommodation and a viewing platform. In total it will be 15% retail, 50% office, 30% hotel and 5% for the observation area.

The appearance of the building is dominated by lattice-work that takes on the look of a diagrid, famously used in 30 St Mary Axe in London and less creatively but just as famously in a defining SOM skyscraper, the Hancock Tower in Chicago.

This webbing of metal has one major advantage over the traditional steel-framed buildings of having much stronger structural strength so less metalwork can be used and building costs are saved by the developer.

The diagrid can also be configured by the architect in the design process to adapt to such things as structural loads in a way that a more stricter frame could not. This was seen in action with 30 St Mary Axe which actually shrunk a fraction of an inch when completed as the frame compressed slightly to hold the weight once gravity kicked it and it settled into the site.

Responding to potential strains on the Lotte Super Tower, SOM has designed the structural columns so they are steepest at the bottom to take into account the gravity loads and shallowest at the top to take stresses from the wind in a process called "vortex shedding" that manipulates the wind flow.

At night the superscraper will be particularly stunning. A lighting scheme has been designed where the diagonal cross-bracing that wraps around the tower will be lit up with a series of white lights like a Christmas tree. At the top, beams will shoot up from the crown illuminating the sky above as if the structure finishes in a torch light.

Particular attention has been paid to the base that will have blue uplighters but also a deeper red colour scheme on the interior of the lowest levels, creating a feeling of depth through the facades and cross-bracing as well as expressing the complex structure visually.

The Lotte Group are already a major developer within Korea with a number of large towers on their portfolio but this one will be one of the tallest buildings in the world if it is actually completed. That could however be another story - Korea has a long and illustrious history of proposing enormous towers that fail to get off the ground.

Even if the scheme is never realised it's a far cry from the earliest origins of Lotte, that of a chewing gum and confectionary manufacturer in Japan in 1948, and a victory of sorts that shows the smallest starts can lead to the grandest designs.

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love the design. lets hope it actually gets built.

that's pretty fugly hahaha it is pretty interesting though to see it go from sqaure to a circle

so this one is also in SEOUL hmm we have a 555m(approved) and a 622.5m Yongsan Landmark Building (site prep) in this town fantastic for them

Donkie, why did you bother posting the exact same article and photos that I already did?

Good looking tower, hopefully we will see this one get built, and that soon, not in 15 years as other S. Korean supertall high-rise projects! ;)

Here's a better render.

http://www.aecbytes.com/viewpoint/2007/issue32-images/fig5.jpg

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/news.php?ref=998

Lotte World Tower To Become Seoul's Tallest

Published on 2007-07-07

These are the first images of the latest design of what will be one of the tallest buildings in the world, the Lotte Super Tower in Seoul, South Korea, if built.

Designed by leading architects Skidmore Owings & Merrill, the tower will be 555 metres tall tapering gently from a wider base. The shape of the building is also manipulated starting off with a square floor-plate of 70 x 70 metres and gradually morphing into a circular 40 metre one as the height progresses.

Responding to the shrinking floor-plates, the building uses which require the largest areas such as office and retail will be located at the bottom of the tower whilst the upper floors will be set aside for hotel accommodation and a viewing platform. In total it will be 15% retail, 50% office, 30% hotel and 5% for the observation area.

The appearance of the building is dominated by lattice-work that takes on the look of a diagrid, famously used in 30 St Mary Axe in London and less creatively but just as famously in a defining SOM skyscraper, the Hancock Tower in Chicago.

This webbing of metal has one major advantage over the traditional steel-framed buildings of having much stronger structural strength so less metalwork can be used and building costs are saved by the developer.

The diagrid can also be configured by the architect in the design process to adapt to such things as structural loads in a way that a more stricter frame could not. This was seen in action with 30 St Mary Axe which actually shrunk a fraction of an inch when completed as the frame compressed slightly to hold the weight once gravity kicked it and it settled into the site.

Responding to potential strains on the Lotte Super Tower, SOM has designed the structural columns so they are steepest at the bottom to take into account the gravity loads and shallowest at the top to take stresses from the wind in a process called "vortex shedding" that manipulates the wind flow.

At night the superscraper will be particularly stunning. A lighting scheme has been designed where the diagonal cross-bracing that wraps around the tower will be lit up with a series of white lights like a Christmas tree. At the top, beams will shoot up from the crown illuminating the sky above as if the structure finishes in a torch light.

Particular attention has been paid to the base that will have blue uplighters but also a deeper red colour scheme on the interior of the lowest levels, creating a feeling of depth through the facades and cross-bracing as well as expressing the complex structure visually.

The Lotte Group are already a major developer within Korea with a number of large towers on their portfolio but this one will be one of the tallest buildings in the world if it is actually completed. That could however be another story - Korea has a long and illustrious history of proposing enormous towers that fail to get off the ground.

Even if the scheme is never realised it's a far cry from the earliest origins of Lotte, that of a chewing gum and confectionary manufacturer in Japan in 1948, and a victory of sorts that shows the smallest starts can lead to the grandest designs.



http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/998LotteWorldTowerToBecomeSeoulsTallest_pic1.jpg


http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/998LotteWorldTowerToBecomeSeoulsTallest_pic2.jpg


http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/998LotteWorldTowerToBecomeSeoulsTallest_pic3.jpg

^^ Two different designs? so which is which?

the design in the first pic is the old one

it looks so strange...

I don't know what plans are for the area around, but this kind of shapes don't look good as landmark stand alone towers, they would look much better within a dense skyline.

Very interesting design, i really like it so much ! Now there are two lotte towers !

nice picture~~!! :)

haha. yes, i have plenty of 500m+ buildings to announce... which one to do next i wonder. ho-hum.

marvelous yet ugly...

I agree with some of you. The HAVE to do something with that crown. It just looks like a wire waste basket. It's too commanding a structure to end like that. It makes it look unfinished somehow. Maybe it would work if they ended it with three or four antennas/spires. Other than that, the transition of its shape going up is a spectacular concept.

Interesting design!!! I've seen so many of these supertalls that never actually get built. Lets hope that this one does. :cheers:

Sorry, but I don't like it at all... :ohno:

I don't like it either. Thinking 'out-of-the-box', gone wrong. Ugly.

it has a unique shape to it, that is a plus,
but come on SOM. a transition from a square base to circular to shouldnt
look this odd...but maybe in 10 years this will be nothing odd, comparatively?

it has a unique shape to it, that is a plus,
but come on SOM. a transition from a square base to circular to shouldnt
look this odd...but maybe in 10 years this will be nothing odd, comparatively?

also...is the last pic posted the final design? because the middle one looked good, had a spire on it..

gah... this has become MAJOR news in korea. we are currently getting 2gb of traffic PER HOUR. what dicks me off is not one of the bloody south korean websites is linking to skyscrapernews, they are simply all stealing our bandwidth without fail.
note to visiting south korean webmasters. link to us or ill blacklist you all on our site log and then no one in your country can view them. happy?

by the way, im going to do a follow up story on this next week. i have more images including interiors. these pictures are the final designs... so far!

i can usually find where a tower is gonna be using the renders and google earth but for the life of me i cannot place this one. where is seoul is this going to be?

i like it

When it comes to skyscrapers and arcitecture I'm very open mined and I easily accept a proposed design. I'm just not really feeling it with this building. Maybe it will grow on me over time. I'm not going to bluntly say "I hope this doesn't get built" or "It doesn't fit in". We'll just have to wait and see.

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wondefull tower, I Like´s the first desing, but the pinacle don´t look good.

honestly it looks horrendous :ohno:

I think I know why i don't like it now. It looks like a giant chimney! :|

Heh, I was on the design team on that project some time ago.

Hm.... I do not know yet what I think of this.

OMG HOW ORIGINAL! :clown:

I don't think it is ugly, just weird. It reminds me somehow of Foster's designs like WTC kissing towers or Hearst building. The old rendering looked like the Transamerica Pyramid's base with weirdness above.

How it goes from square to circle is cool, though.

Also it would look beter IMO if the crown was not like a giant waste basket and put 4 spires equilaterally around the perimeter.

the base looks very similar to hearst in nyc

its hideous

Looks like the Hearst Tower on steroids.

We have seen lots of building with the same concept.No more copy-paste!

where is the location of the tower in seoul? ... also on the island of the 63-building?

...it looks like a metallic mesh smoke stack, unfortunately.

Fantastic Design

...it looks like a metallic mesh smoke stack, unfortunately.

I agree. Or a decorated, exploded grain storage stack. SOM has done better projects than this one.

=O

It's so amazing!

YUK

i like it.

I was on the design team for this big guy last year.

^^ got info to share with us? Maybe some sketches or renderings?

Both the old and the new tower designs look nice...

I was hoping this thing would get built...

not sure but i believe the construction start will be next year

I'm sorry that this comment might be arriving a bit late but I cannot not say that this is SUCH an outrage to see Foster's NY Hearst tower being copied and pasted like this!! An extra thousand feet is good but still... If I were him, I would sue.:bash: :( :rant: :speech: :puke: :bleep: :evil: :gunz:

I'm sorry that this comment might be arriving a bit late but I cannot not say that this is SUCH an outrage to see Foster's NY Hearst tower being copied and pasted like this!! An extra thousand feet is good but still... If I were him, I would sue.:bash: :( :rant: :speech: :puke: :bleep: :evil: :gunz:

Lattice towers aren't exactly new...

Guess what? There are hundreds of thousands of towers in the world. Some of them will have similarities. Sue because a tower resembles another tower? Please. The vast majority of skyscrapers are a box with windows. Is someone going to start an international class action suit to pay royalties to some guy who built the first one 150 years ago?

How the tower was designed

http://www.aecbytes.com/viewpoint/2007/issue_32.html

Engineering was awarded to Flack & Kurtz

http://www.flackandkurtz.com/

In association with Tauber

http://www.tauber.de/files/dt/projekte/lotte.htm

love this tower

I don't like.

Norman Foster should sue!

foster would create a fantastic design without any doubt but for me SOM did a wonderful job with that design :)

It's very distinct, instantly recognizable.

Will everyone shut up about it looking like hearst tower.
1; it looks hardly anything like it...
2; youll always find towers that look similar to each other.

In my mind, SOM's Lotte super tower owns Hearst tower by a mile!
yay for SOM:lol:

Another great design that will NEVER see the light of day. Korea has the highest number of Supertall designs that NEVER get built.

제2롯데월드 건축 憲載서 가린다

'잠실 제2롯데월드'의 운명이 헌법재판소에서 가려지게 됐다.

롯데그룹이 지난 14년간 아무리 애써도 잠실의 꿈을 이루지 못하자 헌재에 호소하기에 이른 것이다.

1일 롯데그룹과 서울시 등에 따르면 롯데는 "성남시 서울공항에서 이·착륙하는 비행기의 안전을 고려해 제2롯데월드를 203m(약 40층) 이하로 건설하라"고 결정한 작년 7월 국무조정실 행정조정협의위원회의 결정에 대한 헌법소원을 지난해 말 제기했다.

롯데 관계자도 "작년 7월 국무조정실이 내린 결정에 대해 최근 헌법소원을 냈다"고 확인하면서 "민간 전문가로 구성된 협의회가 건축 허가를 받은 건을 번복한 것은 부당하다는 취지로 헌법소원 청구서를 작성해 제출했다"고 전했다.

그는 "국무조정실 행정조정협의위원회는 구속력 있는 결정을 내릴 수 있는 국가 기관이 아니다"면서 "이로 인해 헌법상 보장된 기본권이 침해됐다고 판단해 헌재에 호소한 것"이라고 설명했다.

헌법소원은 공권력의 행사 또는 불행사로 인해 헌법상 보장된 기본권을 침해받은 자가 헌법재판소에 제기하는 권리 구제 절차다.

롯데그룹은 헌법소원과 별도로 건축 허가를 내줬던 서울시를 상대로 허가대로 건축에 들어갈 수 있도록 절차를 밟아 달라는 내용의 행정 소송도 제기할 방침이다.

롯데그룹은 1994년부터 송파구 잠실 롯데월드 부지 건너편에 제2롯데월드를 짓겠다는 계획을 세웠다.

4년 뒤인 1998년 롯데는 아시아를 대표하는 112층짜리 랜드 마크를 건설하겠다면서 서울시에 건축 허가를 신청했고 승인을 받아 냈다.

하지만 롯데는 서울공항을 이용하는 비행기의 안전에 문제가 있다고 이의를 제기한 공군과 대립했고 지난해 7월 행정조정협의위원회의 결정으로 공사에 들어가지 못하고 있다.

이런 상황에서 롯데가 헌재에 헌법소원을 제기하자 유통업계에선 "다른 기업이라면 헌재까지 갈 생각을 도저히 못했을 것"이라며 놀랍다는 반응을 보이고 있다.

제2롯데월드 건설이 신격호 롯데그룹 회장의 오랜 꿈인 것은 잘 알려져 있지만 언제 끝날지 모를 소송을 시작할 줄은 몰랐다는 것이다.

올해 86세인 신 회장은 서울을 세계적 관광 대국으로 만들기 위해 초고층 롯데월드 건설의 꿈을 한 치도 굽히지 않고 있다.

업계 관계자는 "서울시장 시절부터 제2롯데월드 건설을 적극 지원해 온 이명박 후보가 대통령에 당선됐다는 게 롯데에 큰 힘이 되고 있다"며 "올해에는 제2롯데월드 사업이 확정될 가능성이 다른 어느 때보다 높지 않겠는가"라고 평했다.

행정소송 가능성에 대해 서울시 관계자는 "롯데의 행정소송 움직임에 대해 알고 있다"면서 "시는 제2롯데월드의 건설을 적극적으로 찬성하는 입장이기 때문에 롯데의 실질적인 소송 대상은 초고층 건축을 반대해 온 공군이 될 것"이라고 설명했다.

이 관계자는 "실제로 행정 소송을 준비하는 과정에서 필요한 실무 작업은 공군이 담당하게 될 예정"이라며 "다만 행정소송 결과가 나올 때까지는 6개월~1년이라는 시간이 걸리기 때문에 롯데가 소송에 이기더라도 2009년은 돼야 공사에 들어갈 수 있을 것"으로 내다봤다.



in This news,Lotte Super Tower will be started in 2009.(because of New president Age-Lee Myeong bak)

Wonderful news :banana:


Another great design that will NEVER see the light of day. Korea has the highest number of Supertall designs that NEVER get built.

are you so sure? :lol:

Well I read the google translator version (haha)
It sounds like Lotte is going to file a lawsuit against the airforce; furthermore, the president-elect will back Lotte...?
And if they win, Lotte can build the tower.

Am I right?

Well I read the google translator version (haha)
It sounds like Lotte is going to file a lawsuit against the airforce; furthermore, the president-elect will back Lotte...?
And if they win, Lotte can build the tower.

Am I right?

yep. right.
and.. even if Lotte will win the lawsuit against Air Force,, the construction can start at 2009,, according to a staffman of City Office.(sorry, ZZ-II)

(in brief, Seoul city : approve, Airforce : objection --> go to court)

ok, but there's still a chance for it :D

Awesome project :okay: :bow:.

If you do not like negative posts, stop reading now.

This thing looks like an artsy-fartsy waste paper basket or the cooling tower at a nuclear power plant designed by a gay jewler at Tiffany's. The design sucks on so many of its 112 levels.

Fortunately, none of the Lotte proposals ever seem to materialize anywhere but on paper so I don't have to worry about it ever being built. Lotte talks a big game, but he doesn't ever produce.


:lol::lol::lol::lol:

I couldn't agree with you more on this. I don't like the design and furthermore, as you pointed out SpaceScraper, when does Lotte ever get anything past the drawing board?

Oops! When does anything from Korea get off the drawing board?

Anything going up in Seoul or Busan.....I need to see the thing under construction to be convinced. Even if it is "approved" I like to see it actually going up.

I don't know if it's been said yet, but this project is no longer featured on SOM's website (http://som.com) ...though it does appear in an intro splash.

Lotte 'second Lotte World' administrative judges charged

Lotte 'Jamsil Lotte World 2' wishes to the Constitution raised for the building to the administrative judges in charge of the city of Seoul. Lotte Co., Ltd. Lotte World in Seoul sincheondong second high-rise building permit applications for administrative decisions, Seoul, the judges refuse to charge cheobunhan said yesterday. construction-related business because the administrative judges of the Ministry of Construction and Transportation Committee received will be transferred to the administrative judges.

Lotte 112 heoganan second floor of Lotte World in July last year to build an administrative adjustment jojeongsil State Council on 40 floors (203 m) below the limit on November 16 last year, the constitution would wish. Seoul City Council decision to adjust the government last year, according to 11 May 14, refuse disposal and building permits. unfair or illegal disposal of the Lotte haengjeongcheong can be charged for administrative judges in charge of the city of Seoul. Lotte reason is the administrative judges charged, "has no effect on domestic laws of the Federal hanggongcheong (FAA) Based on the decision criteria for adjusting the administrative consultations, Seoul has become the consequent violation of the principle of the rule of law, administration, "" The target is not adjusted for consultation on administrative decisions are not based on legal rights to the event, "he pointed out . jieojil Lotte is the second high-rise buildings on the site of Lotte World's Military Aircraft flight safety zone outside the law. gyehoekdwae argue that there is no legal basis to restrict the height. 2nd Lotte World is chairman of the Lotte Group has since 1994 pursued a long-cherished project singyeokho .

Lotte 'second Lotte World' administrative judges charged

Lotte 'Jamsil Lotte World 2' wishes to the Constitution raised for the building to the administrative judges in charge of the city of Seoul. Lotte Co., Ltd. Lotte World in Seoul sincheondong second high-rise building permit applications for administrative decisions, Seoul, the judges refuse to charge cheobunhan said yesterday. construction-related business because the administrative judges of the Ministry of Construction and Transportation Committee received will be transferred to the administrative judges.

Lotte 112 heoganan second floor of Lotte World in July last year to build an administrative adjustment jojeongsil State Council on 40 floors (203 m) below the limit on November 16 last year, the constitution would wish. Seoul City Council decision to adjust the government last year, according to 11 May 14, refuse disposal and building permits. unfair or illegal disposal of the Lotte haengjeongcheong can be charged for administrative judges in charge of the city of Seoul. Lotte reason is the administrative judges charged, "has no effect on domestic laws of the Federal hanggongcheong (FAA) Based on the decision criteria for adjusting the administrative consultations, Seoul has become the consequent violation of the principle of the rule of law, administration, "" The target is not adjusted for consultation on administrative decisions are not based on legal rights to the event, "he pointed out . jieojil Lotte is the second high-rise buildings on the site of Lotte World's Military Aircraft flight safety zone outside the law. gyehoekdwae argue that there is no legal basis to restrict the height. 2nd Lotte World is chairman of the Lotte Group has since 1994 pursued a long-cherished project singyeokho .

So what?
There is any decided news right now :bash:
There is NO REVIVAL of this tower yet as you titled here
Don't fool the people until we get the definite result.
Please, hold your horse.

I think that this Jamsil Lotte Tower is nothing special
since lots of towers over 555m will be and are costructing all around the world.

Mr. Sin, gyeokho, the chairman of Lotte, is just wasting time right now, doing stupid things with stupid court struggle for more than a decade.

So, from the little I understand, the South Korean military have gone all NIMBI on Lotte and decided to get the aviation authority to come down on them about height restrictions in the city?

So, from the little I understand, the South Korean military have gone all NIMBI on Lotte and decided to get the aviation authority to come down on them about height restrictions in the city?

Maybe... I think that is just excuse. Korean Height's restriction can change someday.Because of the case of USA(America yield Construction Company)

2nd floor, 112 jaechujin Lotte World

Jamsil floor of the 112-foot (height of 555m) to build high-rise buildings' second Lotte World 'on the launch of the government's business, Lee Myung-bak jaechujin earnest.

The business representatives responsible for the March 10 ganggwangeon of Lotte Co., Ltd. "The new government is' business sounds Fran '(chingieop), the manifestation of pinning hope on the second Lotte World, I will push back," he said. "The Air Force, as opposed to the current government, but did not deal, arguing that putting the new high-rise buildings do not correspond with flight safety zone," "5 days in charge of building permits judges to dispose of refuse expected to be canceled." .

Seoul Mayor Lee Myung-bak and the incumbent president who dangseonin April 2006, the second Lotte World Lotte World across the land to build a building that allows you to the best 555m 'district planning unit' and never approved.

Skyscrapers will be flying from the safety zone bikyeona because of the height of the building until the problem is not olryeodo safety of the plane. However, last July, Prime jojeongsil administrative committee in consultation adjustment of the Seoul Songnam Airport could hinder the flight of the aircraft is the Air Force's claim that the permit decision to accept high-rise buildings.

◇ Lotte's' Flip 'success? = Lotte and deregulation, investment in a high-rise building with a government grant gongyakhan Lee Myung-bak said. The project will invest 1.7 trillion won and create 23,000 new jobs in the business as an 'economic recovery' is not a reason to stop it from us, not calculation.

Oh Se-hoon, Seoul's chief market and Songpa gimyoungsun local economy and attract foreign tourists to actively support this position. Recently, in an interview with the Chosun Ilbo Oh market, "residential and commercial complex of high-rise buildings are gwamil hwadoeneun better than that," he said. And a statement of support do sanggonghoe Songpa guuihoe opinion of the community, including Lotte friendly.

Lotte challenges to the commission's decision last year to adjust the administrative dwijipneun consultations.

Last month, Lotte, who wishes to the Constitution earlier this month on charges of administrative judges. Especially in the high-rise building, the administrative judges in a friendly against the Seoul Metropolitan Government, as is highly likely to win. Administrative judges for a building permit from the city of Seoul, must win it. Naejuge 2nd Lotte World is pursuing possible.

Lotte Co., Ltd. Rivers said, "substantial progress by the administrative judge that the government since the inauguration of Lee Myung-bak," "Therefore, the Roh Moo-hyun government, the administrative committee of judges permitted reasonably determines that the decision to get involved," he said.

Yeah...Cancellation of the Lotte World 2 project is unfair!

:eek2: i admire the design :eek2:

it resembles the lamps in my house:colgate::lol:
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Lotte, Lotte World jaechujin second ... "Bupun dream" - South Korea's Lee Myung-bak high-rise building projects to help!

Lotte Group is nowadays' singgeulbeonggeul '. The main business of the government to push for a new way forward because hwadaphae.

Lotte Group with the launch of the second Lotte World saejeongbu jaechujin construction, putting the Spurs.

In the past five days Jamsil Lotte Co., Ltd. 2nd Lotte World skyscraper construction permit application for a decision to refuse cheobunhan, Seoul, on charges of administrative judges.

The company announced second Jamsil Lotte World jieojil site in a high-rise building military aircraft flight safety zone outside the law since it is planned to limit the height, there is no legal basis for it.

Lotte Group, one official said, "Second Lotte World tujadoel construction of the 1.7 trillion won are scheduled," "This business is full employment and tourism, if pursued, and when considering the effect of this will help activate the local economy," he said.


◆ advance accelerated Finance

Lotte Group is also in line saejeongbu inauguration, even speed up financial market.

Lotte Group is a month from one week to acquire a 57% stake in a fire and a step closer to the financial market.

Lotte has called for the fire company's shareholders meeting in March a temporary 'liability insurance Lotte Co. Ltd. (tentative name)' plans to change.

Lotte future insurance losses, the Financial Supervisory Commission and the Fair Trade Commission passed the examination during March Lotte affiliates will be a new departure.

Lotte is "shared distribution channels affiliated with a group marketing, and customer information in a way to create synergy and integration Lotte liability insurance policy, we maintained," he said.

Lotte Group's financial sector is the current Lotte Card and Lotte Capital, the argument is over as soon as a fire is made up of the three companies and to expand.

Lotte Card and Lotte Capital's assets utdolgo scale of 5 trillion won, the asset size of the fire to add up to 1.13 trillion won, Lotte the scale of the financial sector's assets will rise to 6 trillion won.


◆ distribution in a global 'mathyeong' is also Lotte

Lotte management saejeongbu launching the offensive line seems to be accelerating. BRIX (BRICS) in the global market in the expanded width of the distribution will prove once again that maengju pobuda.

Lotte Department Store in Beijing this year beonhwa wangpujing gain (王府井) dot the streets of the Lotte Department Store to open in Beijing in August to welcome the Olympics will be held in Beijing.

And the main window doroin wangpujing Beijing Subway Line 1, and adjacent to, Tiananmen Square and other retail facilities, a luxury hotel and office buildings are shopping area, known as tourist attractions.

Lotte Department Store in Beijing, China, with one store open even further chuljeom Review and other big cities.

The group said, "Lotte Department Store in Beijing as the Lotte Department Store's distribution expertise and advanced product configuration, purchasing power, marketing plans, ensuring jeopmokhae strong competitiveness," he explained.


◆ heavy and chemical / visualization, and the construction sector,

Another Lotte Group's growth and the construction sector also sustained heavy and chemical axis of investment performance is the result of a slowly appearing.

Honam Petrochemical petrochemical companies in the domestic market in the Middle East, the first project for a total annual capacity of 2.6 billion US dollars to build a joint-venture petrochemical complex business plan.

In addition, the overseas market through keyipi Chemicals business to strengthen the competitiveness PTA joint venture in China and Russia plan joint venture in PET.

China and Russia future production directly to the local market by supplying China, and Russia and Eastern Europe, a foothold in the market woowoljeok PET market as a provider of new markets, and to maintain its strategy of preemption.

Lotte Construction of this year, Vietnam, Russia, India, China, and real estate development in the new town planning and development, and hopes more tangible results.

In addition, Libya, Qatar and the other CIS countries in the housing project and the plant deungeseoui do business actively deploying more than 400 billion won orders to the business goals.
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In vietnam,Lotte will develop 100-stories Supertall Building!!
Korean Supertall Developent look forward!

Oh cool.
Another Supertall for Seoul.
Nice design from a spare ground to a circular top :okay:
I love this design. I hope it's gonna get build

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Except for the second floor of 112 Lotte World 'Once construction?

Lotte Group is pursuing the construction of the Seoul Songpa sincheondong second Jamsil Lotte World has not received permission to building height restrictions as a 112-storey building to building, minus the rest of the first chakgongdoel rest of the year.

Seoul City on June 29 at the 11th Committee on Construction and around 80,000 7182.80 ㎡ Songpa 29 sincheondong five underground floors and 11 floors above ground yeonmyeonjeok 420000 4059.72 ㎡ scale proposal to build a second building Lotte World (a bird's-eye) had conditionally approved June 30.

Construction on the 112-story buildings on that day, minus the rest of the deliberation of the nine buildings for sale, demonstrations and cultural facilities, amusement, business, sports facilities and the construction of an inside pass. These buildings are geonpyeyul 39.47 percent to 171.86 percent less than the floor area ratio applied to receive the maximum 11 on the ground floor of the basement floor of 5 jieojinda scale.

Seoul city official said, "The 112-story Lotte Group to take time to resolve problems reported for the construction of the remaining buildings on a priority basis, which submitted seolgyean likely," he said.

Specifically, the proposal was deliberated in the 112-story building houses did not consider it sicheukui. Construction of the Lotte Shopping Co., Ltd. and Lotte ㈜ ㈜, ㈜ Lotte Hotel.

The Chinese Embassy in Seoul, Jung-gu, Myeongdong yet to land on the ground floors and two basement floors 24-man 7464 ㎡ scale of 1 yeonmyeonjeok flexible plan to vote at the Chinese Embassy in Korea. Geonpyeyul is 20.78 percent, 140.46 percent of the floor area ratio is applied.

In addition, 70 of the mountain area 13 gangseogu hwagokdong 973% ㎡ man in 37 apartment buildings built from 2603 to households' hwagok jugu jutaekjaegeonchukan 3 'dajain also passed the criteria and color differentiation.

"Second Lotte World, Seoul landmark of the required"

The average 132 vehicles a day, 245 people were born, got an increase. This is happening every day, and the passage of the transportation manbeon 3000, 324 liters of water per capita per day used by the city. That's 10 million citizens living in Seoul.

There's no one you do not have a distinctive landmark to boast huge momjipman Seoul. Seoul has recently these 'urban design' transformed into, and the citizens of Seoul, as well as tourists from around the world attention.

You can also design'2012 Seoul is the world 'seonjeongdwae design changes to the city's successful plans. The 'Han River Renaissance project,' and 'Plaza Dongdaemun Design & Parks' guljikguljikhan business, including through the city's image to change.

Mayor Oh Se-hoon, Seoul, "Seoul by 2010, the future of 12 million people are looking for world-class tourist city, tourists will be," "clear and attractive cities in the world grow," he said Seoul's vision for the present.

Oh markets' impressive customer high-quality civil service administration, '' brand value creation for marketing the city, '' changuiwa new organizational culture for a change ', and made key strategic giui 4 Min Sun, 10 units of 471 business sectors today. .

bad news :(

Oh yeah that are really bad news :(

Well, bye bye Lotte Tower. Come back when you have some balls, Korea.

We want to see you build a supertall but you just ain't got the guts to do it yet.

I hope this puts an end to Lotte's stupid proposals. I was getting tired of such projects from them when they were not even remotely close to getting things passed. In Busan, things look good for the 125 floor tower there. It sounds like the government and military want nothing to do with Lotte officials, who seem like they are corrupt through and through. I say GOOD RIDDANCE to this project. Maybe somebody other than Lotte can get things going for Seoul.

Lotte is fully corrupt.

I hope this puts an end to Lotte's stupid proposals. I was getting tired of such projects from them when they were not even remotely close to getting things passed. In Busan, things look good for the 125 floor tower there. It sounds like the government and military want nothing to do with Lotte officials, who seem like they are corrupt through and through. I say GOOD RIDDANCE to this project. Maybe somebody other than Lotte can get things going for Seoul.

Lotte is fully corrupt.

Beyond1000,

how do you know that Lotte is fully corrupt?

Update: the new president, Lee Myungbak, has ordered the Ministry of Defence to reconsider its position on the Seoul Lotte Tower. And now, the ROK Air Force is considering wheter to biuld a new runway for the Seoul Airport or moving reconnaissance and transport airplanes to different airports. Military flight operations based in Seoul Airport was the main reason why ROK Air Force has been halting the construction of this tower.

Source(Korean): http://news.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2008/05/19/2008051900067.html

Not sure if this will get through, because the Air Force still probably has a huge grudge on this issue. Personally, I just hope Lotte builds the freaking tower somewhere else, somewhere near the larger CBDs.

haha i read da article. But the new president is real headache for everybody. But hope this gets built (somewhere else)

Second Lotte World and she's no…


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军, according to comments the president to change position "multiple review"

Seoul Airport to secure additional costs over the bar preferential treatment…

Remote possibility of seeing 112-story (555 m) height of the second Lotte World in Seoul Jamsil construction problems surface again emerged. 'Absolutely not' position was that the military is' multi-angled Review 'because geupseonhoe.

However, some military construction on the second Lotte World, Seoul, Seongnam Airport is pursued, if at all possible naejjotgigeona half-dollar airport, some are concerned that many jeonrakhal. "Lee Myung-bak threatens the government's security policy is chingieop" This is the reason why the head up the voice said.

The Pentagon's position change

Pentagon officials on March 19 and construction of the second Lotte World, "all measures to review and a multi-angled from origin to destination," he said. Meanwhile, the Ministry of Defense and Air Force aircraft crashes during flight, including flight safety issues as the possibility of building more than 203m flexible stance is impossible if he had been kept.

The Air Force said it planned high-rise buildings are deuleoseol Seoul Airport on a flight access to aircraft instruments Reserves (altitude 203m) might go back to the 11 terror'9 ', as the aircraft hit the building possible argues that big.

Last July, the government also suyonghae 555m height of the building that houses the military's stance of not allowing. Lotte World has cancelled a second fixation sasilhwa The atmosphere was constructive.

But the Pentagon has changed its stance. Nearby gun, "the Pentagon's recent remarks on President Lee Myung-bak batatgi's" analysis is dominant. April 28, at Cheong Wa Dae, the presidential 'investment and create jobs for the meeting mingwanhapdong' side in the second Lotte World Lotte positive review of his request for a flexible stance.

The next day the secretary of defense for a short cabinet meeting in comments that will be difficult but ultimately respect the opinions of tongsugwon gun toward the conclusion that I will.


The reports said the "foreign guest to the Seoul Airport aboard a large aircraft could be dangerous to use when", the president is "Incheon and Gimpo Airport, which might take," said the runway was built to change Taiwan's high-rise buildings for Gardens, said. This was also the second president of the Seoul Lotte World markets should be allowed to build a stance.

Retreating security, corporate perks controversy

First, existing inside the military review process to move the Seoul Airport without creating a new runway. Although you can change the direction of the existing runway this case to build a new runway will cost more than the academy. But if you want to create a new runway, some newly acquired land must be resisted by local residents who can not guarantee whether the deal.

The Pentagon official said, "Under normal circumstances of the matter is through the expropriation of land runway extension is legally possible, but it really difficult" and that "even if other airports in the past, I know that there is no such precedent," he said.

Except for the helicopter to another aircraft on the base is also likely to be distributed to review a plan that can be placed anyida. However, spy planes, vehicles and other bases in place if the new hangar and various support facilities, including a thousand billion in building costs are expected to be enormous.

One company in particular for business chuknaeya a situation where the government is going to be enormous. The possibilities are relatively low, but the entire airport in Seoul earlier that the situation can not be ruled out.

The problem is more serious in Seoul airport is strategically very important for a company building high-rise buildings, and the devaluation pushed up the situation inside and outside the military's perspective. Seoul airport with military means is very valuable.

Geumgang in the Seoul airport, named Baekdu our military reconnaissance plane was rising prices. Thanks to the American spy planes are dependent on the information to some extent compensate North Korea. In the immediate emergencies, such as teukjeonsa troops have moved closer to the Seoul Airport, using a transport plane.

South Korea and the USFK is also participating judungun status agreement (SOFA), depending on the base, together with Seongnam, and the rally point do the Americans in Korea, Seoul airport emergencies.

A military expert "to help the country's economy a huge business that do not, according to company president's personal desire to promote business in one country is an important military base, shakes can be a very bad precedent," he said.

Great news korea 2002, great news!!! hahahahaha no. For the love of God can't the governement set mind to one way for longer than a week? It seems like one week I hear it will be constructed, then not cancel the next week then the week after it changed design to 2 floor shopping mall. Now what?, next week it will be cancelled again.

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really hoping it can get built...those apartments surrounding the Tower will definitely increase in value...@_@

Is very cool, when finish this proyect ??

no date yet, it's not even sure if it will get build ^^

'Article 2 Jamsil Lotte' high-rise apartment building deuleoseonda

Lotte Group is being erected to promote '112-story skyscrapers Jamsil Lotte World 2' of around 200 households that are likely to enter the residential and commercial apartments in the complex said.

Seoul city in the construction of a joint committee to deliberate on the assumption that receiving a second Jamsil Lotte World in high-rise residential building facilities (residential and commercial apartment complex) was allowed 22 days to put some of the year.

Last week, held at Seoul City building housing facilities put in a joint committee to prevent a planned attempt to change the direction of the district units. Lotte, however, some city officials. Opposed to the construction of a joint committee to suyonghae placed in a residential facility itself decided not to the contrary.

However, deliberations on the health impact of high-rise residence, close to residential areas and the Middle East with limited status, decided to allow a residential facility.

Seoul city official said, "you can build apartments and commercial residential and commercial complex due to the Sangam area ttangin apartment high-rise residential and commercial complex is also going in." "Chamsil only thing that does not allow residential facility does not have the judgement in terms of fairness," he said.

The scale of the residential facility to modify future development plans in detail hwakjeongdoel said. Lotte Construction official said, "If the developed countries of the co-residential facilities properly to avoid placing a high-rise buildings" and that "large enough to place the type of housing 200 families to consider," he explained.

However, flight safety issues as opposed to the Pentagon building skyscrapers with no agreement has yet been launched at a building development is difficult to predict. Lotte last June landmark high-rise buildings except for jeocheungbu 9 went into the construction of buildings for commercial buildings from the situation

It's too tall flight safety for airports will oppose till the end the same happened to the one in Las Vegas :ohno:

:(

I'm bettin' we'll never see it or any other Lotte projects get built, but if they do this one isn't going to be on my faves list at all....weird lines and a funky transition.

Will this building be purely hotel use or will this be a mixed-use tower?

great!!!

Will this building be purely hotel use or will this be a mixed-use tower?

mixed.

^^ How will it be mixed use?

^^ How will it be mixed use?

here you go
15% retail, 50% office, 30% hotel and 5% for the observation area

^^ How will it be mixed use?

how will it not be mixed use?

So this is definitely not approved. Is it still even proposed or is it cancelled now?

^^What are they doing in Seoul??? :down: :doh:

So this is definitely not approved. Is it still even proposed or is it cancelled now?

still proposed, but i don't see much chances for the tower with its current height

Korea 2002 mate where are you? Dying to see some new info on this tower or the rest of Korea. I wouldn't bother saying this normally but Cos I cn't find any info on anything for Korean projects!!

Korea 2002 mate where are you? Dying to see some new info on this tower or the rest of Korea. I wouldn't bother saying this normally but Cos I cn't find any info on anything for Korean projects!!


korea Forum and City complitation...... and so on..... I will upload massive info today....

Second Lotte World 'Allow haldeut
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Seoul Airport runway de facto government policy changes, including reviewing confirmed…

Lotte Group is promoted by the government in Seoul Jamsil Songpa 'second Lotte World' will be built to allow the internal policy of de facto implementation of their plans finalized and details are reported. In contrast disappeared as the largest stumbling block was the second military plan is to build Lotte World geupmulsaleul expected to ride.

Along with government hospital services such as schools and non-industry-profit corporation (非)-profit corporation in the form of an intermediate step 'public good investment corporation' system, introducing these industries to drastically lower the entry barrier.

Planning and Finance Department of Defense, including the 9th relevant government ministries and business circles, according to the government on April 18 at the Blue House presidential Lee Myung-bak and the business community between the two leaders meeting in the second round of mingwanhapdong Lotte World decided to unveil plans for the building.

Revenge of the 2nd Lotte World building permit government officials with regard to "old Seoul Airport, new runway, the existing runway orientation (angle) to review and change various measures of effectiveness" and that "this problem is the first held April mingwan The core of the discussion hapdonghoe meeting, which was enough to see, the government has to be reviewed, "he said.

Article 2 has been strongly opposed to the Lotte World have been erected at a Pentagon official said, "(Article 2 Lotte World) continue to review the building plans," he said.

Meanwhile, the government will create jobs and investment services industry deregulation in the public interest, decided to introduce a corporate system. The corporation will also gongikjeok nature of equity investments and reclaimed ttimyeon possible structure of the service industries to increase employment alternatives for lowering barriers to entry (代案) year.'

It was really bad translator. haha

North Korean spies are watching you do what? With South Korea per capita like 20 times the North, perhaps the 'democratic' 'peoples' 'republic' of Korea could learn about 'democratic' (as in South Korea). advanced electronics like Samsung LG etc. Another thing I have been seeing is a Lotte Tower in Vietnam, is this proposal also?

And yes, I was ROTFLMAO about the translator! It is pure joy!!!!!!

The following was in todays newspaper.
By Kim Tong-hyung
Staff Reporter

Policymakers have all but approved a controversial plan by Lotte Group to build a 112-story building in southeastern Seoul, despite concerns that the trophy skyscraper would be too close to a military airbase.

The decision was made after a meeting between ministers and business leaders in Cheong Wa Dae Thursday and rewards 14 years of persistence by Lotte chairman Shin Kyuk-ho, who has zealously pursued becoming the owner of the country’s tallest building since first approached with the idea in 1994.

President Lee Myung-bak has been supportive of Lotte’s plans since his days as Seoul Mayor. However, the Air Force and Defense Ministry blocked construction, claiming that the 555-meter tall building could pose a serious safety threat to military aircraft flying in and out of Seoul Airport in Seongnam, Gyeonggi Province, due to its close location to flight paths.

However, with Lee calling the shots from the Blue House, military authorities are now saying they could be more flexible.

``There have been requests from the business sector to allow the building of the `Second Lotte World,’’’ said Cheong Wa Dae spokesman Lee Dong-gwan.

``We are considering those demands and a conclusion will be reached at the year’s end,’’ he said.

A Defense Ministry spokesman said the ministry is considering ways to prevent the new building from becoming a threat to ``national security and air safety,’’ which may include adjusting the direction of the airport runway. Relocation of the airport, however, would not be considered.

``We are considering every possibility in regard of the building’s effect to the airport and other military facilities, but nothing has been decided yet,’’ said Won Tae-jae, a ministry spokesman.

``If a conclusion is reached that the runway of the airport should be rebuilt, Lotte should be ready to pay for it as that is not going to come from our budget,’’ he said.

Military officials had previously demanded Lotte reduce the height of the building to a level below 200 meters. Pilots using the Seoul Airport are required to keep an altitude of at least 203 meters on instrumental flights, or when they control their planes solely relying on data from instruments due to clouds and other obstacles limiting visibility in the cockpit.

So in an absolute worst-case scenario, military officials claim, a pilot could crash right into the middle of Lotte’s 500-meter plus building on a cloudy day. They also pointed out that planes need to descend to a level of about 280 meters above the new building’s site in order to land at the Airport.

However, Lotte officials insisted the worries are exaggerated, saying the new building’s location is outside of the flight safety zone reserved by current law.

Now with military authorities changing their language, singing along with the Lee government’s drive for deregulation, Lotte is likely to have its dream building, although the company would be reluctant to fully finance the rebuilding of Seoul Airport’s runway.

The 112-story building is part of Lotte’s 1 trillion won project to construct its new amusement park, right next to the current Lotte World, in a 87,400-square-meters site it bought in 1988.

Shin is clearly obsessed with size, but a 112-story building doesn’t’ sound so cool 14 years later. There are already plans for a 160-story, 620-meter building in Yongsan, downtown Seoul, while another 130-story building in Sangamdong is about to enter construction, meaning that the new Lotte building would never be called the country’s tallest, a title that Shin had been religiously attached to.

There are also worries that Lotte’s new building could also cause already-expensive house prices in Jamsil to skyrocket, making the area a target for speculation.

thkim@koreatimes.co.kr

I like the look of the tower and hope that it get built. It looks like an updated version of Chicago's John Hancock Center.

it look beautifull at night ; d

A perfect fit for South Korea.

There was a new design competition for the Lotte super tower over the summer with four new designs. The SOM design is no longer valid - it is too expensive to build for the Lotte construction company. Lotte CM specializes in the typical concrete structures not what SOM designed.
They are waiting for the Chairman to decide on a design. Maybe in November.

I like it. A new design, strange, but in my opinion it's great for Seoul.

12-20-2008 21:43
Construction of Second Lotte World Skyscraper Likely

The South Korean government is expected to allow the construction of a 555-meter-tall skyscraper near a key air base on the outskirts of Seoul, Yonhap News reported Saturday quoting an official source.

The defense ministry source said on condition of anonymity that the prime minister is looking into administrative aspects of allowing construction to begin on the second Lotte World complex in Jamsil, southeastern Seoul.

The site is located just 5.7 kilometers away from the Seongnam air base, a key Air Force installation integral to the defense of the capital city. It is also used by the South Korean president and other foreign dignitaries because special flights would disrupt operations at commercial airports.

It was, ironically, the Prime Minister's office under the previous Roh Moo-hyun administration that first ruled against the construction of the 112-story structure that Lotte claims will become one of Seoul's landmark towers. At that time, decision makers sided with the Air Force and said Lotte could only build the tower if it was under 203 meters, according to Yonhap.

The height restriction was based on the threat of a possible collision with planes landing or taking off from the Seongnam air base.

"Experts are looking at four alternatives that would allow construction to begin once the decision is made as early as next year," the official was quoted as saying.

However, he added that even if approval is granted, a lot of follow-up work would still need to be done.

Of the four alternatives, government insiders said a move to alter the direction of a runway at the air base by between three and 10 degrees, which would alleviate concerns of a collision though it would be costly and could trigger protests from residents near the military facility.

Other plans include discontinuing use of the air field altogether or getting Lotte to build a shorter tower. The third and fourth options are unlikely at present.

The Air Force had initially opposed construction of the tower but recently changed its stance on the issue.

The government is also looking at the project more favorably, as the incumbent Lee Myung-bak administration hopes to use it to bolster the nation's construction sector, which accounts for roughly 18 percent of the country's gross domestic product.


Source: Korea Times (http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2008/12/113_36435.html)

Still ambiguous whether this tower will be built or not.

YESSSSSSSS!! cheers BOM, I appreciate the news.

great news, already gave up all my hope :)

great news, already gave up all my hope :)


Thanks.ZZ-2,and BOM!
Lotte World's Construction will be start soon!!

Is the one on the left Second Lotte World Tower?

http://english.chosun.com/media/photo/news/200502/200502070018_00.jpg

^^ its the oldest design of lotte super tower i think. Extremly ugly too!

^^ yep, i definately remember that eiffel tower copy design and is definately UGLY.

Newspaper report today said that this project just got the final nod and is going to proceed.

Completion date around 2014.

You could see new rendering of Lotte super tower. It has been approved. This tower is going to be built in 2014

http://blog.hankyung.com/webdata/003/82/21/image-20090108-03ae60e8809bae8e0fc88c0c967278a9.jpg

the competition is one between south and the north, this one definitely gonna beat the Ryugung tower. Even though the common sense tells me that the north is not in for a competition..

That's the image of the SOM design. They were taken off the project last summer. They had a design competition since with four new designs. The chairman is still trying to decide on the project.

^^ are those 4 designs anywhere in this forum? or if we haven't, do you have link to the photos?

I heard that they flashed an image of it on the news yesterday. I can't find it on the web - anyone in korea have access to a video link of the news report?

The design above is the same as the one pictured in the newspaper report I read yesterday.
The report also quoted 555 M.

http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/9591/20090107170341586711ul9.jpg

2009.1.8
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/8809/090108052mo0.jpg

WORKS ARE UNDERWAY!!!

:banana: :banana: :banana:


Omg the last time it is the festival of megasupertalls! :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

http://img382.imageshack.us/img382/7188/1231982946dk8.jpg

I love this project and korean railcorp tower project in yongsan

many thanks :cheers: korea2002 keep on updating :okay:

finally it is going to happen. :cheers: :banana:

many thanks :cheers: korea2002 keep on updating :okay:

thanks...

Government gives green light to Lotte skyscraper
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/article/view.asp?aid=2899571

Construction start is 2009.7~2009.10-Lotte official said...

CONGRATULATIONS KOREA!!!

Is the one on the left Second Lotte World Tower?

http://english.chosun.com/media/photo/news/200502/200502070018_00.jpg

This one should be built in Paris :lol:

paris hitlon

:)

^^ WTH??? LOL

http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/9356/41468455im8.jpg
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/4959/10244741et2.jpg
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/6407/67996604cq7.jpg
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/6386/29104755er4.jpg

Any site update?

in the last photo 2 posts up, what is at the top of the spinny stairs?

Amazing renders!! ^^ :nuts:

This tower may actually go ahead in the not too distant future.

Newspaper reports today say that the final nod has been given by govt.

but as I know it this tower is one of the major issues with its location in the city. Maybe it shouldn't be built to prevent any risks.

amazing tower, looks a bit like a supertall new york hearst tower :cheers:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v251/SJM87/6_hearst01_screen.jpg

^^ Incredible tower! Congrats to South Korea and Seoul! :cheers:

It wil look wonderful as a work of art, if built.

so its going to be built for sure? =]

My impression is that it is going to happen almost for sure.

And ironically the economic downturn may work in its favour to an extent as it is being touted as a boast the construction industry which needs this to generate employment.

The biggest indication that this is going ahead has been the rise in property values in the adjacent area despite a downturn almost everywhere else. People are likely putting money into property in the area based on being well informed on the situation.

Not sure if this relates to this project - but there has been a lot of investment inflows in SK from Japan recently ... the yen/won exchange rate at the moment is quite astounding.

cool i would love to visit Korea one day

I like the top of that building...:)

they seem to be using the tube system like the john hancock center. if you notice in the renders theres no interior columns shown. which also gives the building its great exterior look.

How exactly is this Tower gonna be used?
Hotel? Office?

How exactly is this Tower gonna be used?
Hotel? Office?


15% retail, 50% office, 30% hotel and 5% for the observation area

LOVE THIS TOWER. :cheers:

oh okay thanks

Just now the Korean government has given the final approval for the construction of this tower. This just came in, so not a lot of details.

Seoul's Lotte Super Tower Approved!
Construction is to start in the later half of the year.
Aiming for a completion date by 2014.


http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/biz/2009/04/123_42337.html
An article that was released today on The Korea Times

^^ OMG I can't believe this, I'm half happy and half angry.

I thought this was stupid location to build this tower... and I can;t believe how many buildings in Korea are now going forward, in this slimy economy.

^^ OMG I can't believe this, I'm half happy and half angry.

I thought this was stupid location to build this tower... and I can;t believe how many buildings in Korea are now going forward, in this slimy economy.

me toooo.
baha.
=]

http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200904/200904030003.html

That 133 floor building confuses me. Half of the sources say its 640m and other half say its 690m. ????

That 133 floor building confuses me. Half of the sources say its 640m and other half say its 690m. ????

yeah on the Korea Times and this other site said 690m tall.
=/

any updated photos of the site?

any updated photos of the site?

It's not under construction yet.

^^ do we expect any protest going on near the site sometime near? that's certainly what I expect...

Amazing tower!!

actually pretty nice tower:cheers:

^^ with very much controversy to it.

wow love it...

Korea seems to have many planned supertalls but how many are realisticly going to be built?

most of them are IMO

whats IMO?

IMO means 'in my opinion'. :)

^^ I know what IMO is but what's IMAO?

"In my arrogant opinion" ^^

cross section with a floor plan
http://www.schneidercolao.com/files/gimgs/28_01lotte-super-tower.jpg

I did not like it top it building. it is pretty!

This project is still mired by many obstacles. Lotte and the ROK Air Force agreed to change the flight path of a nearby military airport, but the new noise hazard zone from the new flight path, which includes a large residential zone, is posing a problem.

IIRC, the tower's negative impact on nearby traffic is also being reassessed by the Seoul Metropolitan Government.

http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/8543/54033773.jpg

http://i28.tinypic.com/s67j3t.jpg

The 63 Building in Yeouido, overlooking the Han River in southern Seoul, for decades has stood as the country's tallest structure. One of the city's main sites of attractions, the gold-tinted skyscraper holds symbolic status, but it won't be long till the landmark tower is pushed to give up its throne.

In just a few short years, more than half a dozen super tall buildings will shoot up beyond Seoul's current skyline, slowly chipping away the iconic status of the 24-year-old attraction.

Most of the new constructions ― designed to be well above 100 stories ― are springing up along the Han River with completions targeted within the next two to seven years.

Some of the fiercest projects include the 133-story tower in Sangam Digital Media City (DMC), the 152-story Dream Tower in Yongsan and Lotte's 112-story skyscraper in Jamsil.

Although the ongoing credit crunch has slowed down many of the lucrative undertakings, no major changes are expected to be made to the original blueprints and scheduled completion dates, according to developers and industry insiders.

``The tough economy subsequently tightens finance conditions, but most developers are likely to deliver high-quality buildings one by one in the coming years,'' said Angela Kim, a value and strategy manager of Savills Korea, a local affiliate of the global real estate service provider.



The up and coming skyscrapers aren't simply grand in size and design, but also over the top in function and efficiency.

Their design blueprints show that the high-rise towers will provide column-free space, high ceilings, state-of-the art telecommunications services and a full range of the most up-to-date tech tools.

They will eventually dull the shine from today's top-notch office spaces, such as Seoul Finance Center, Hungkuk Life Insurance Building, Gangnam Finance Center and the 63 Building, plus fan rent prices in line with the monumental construction costs.

Each giant project typically costs anywhere from 1 to 3 trillion won, developers say, which means that rental rates must be set accordingly to buffer the bottom line.

Although the building boom will radically transform Seoul's skyline, local real estate experts also talk of concerns that the sudden influx of outstanding buildings is going to lead to an expensive supply glut.

``A bunch of buildings may end up empty with not enough tenants to go around,'' said Kim Tae-ho, an analyst at R2Korea, a local realty firm specializing in commercial buildings.

jhan@koreatimes.co.kr

Source: http://koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/biz/2009/07/123_49381.html

http://uccfs.paran.com/PUD/dc/mov/SWF/20080105/1199458809_200801050001002445549701_0.swf?autoplay=ok

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/490/60357762.jpg

oh... Development News veiled...
Developer(Hotel Lotte,Lotte C&T,Lotte Shopping-롯데그룹) will submit Environment Influence Plan(환경영향평가) to 서울시(seoul city) in 2009.9.17.
Modified Plan
Floor-from 112 to 123 floor
Height-555m
2009.10-Construction start for Tower.
Oh no!!

Final Render was opened in Korean Architectural Community and Seoul City(서울시)
잠실 롯데타운 사업계획안(Seoul Lotte Premium Outlet Town Development Plan)
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/7809/74373742.jpg
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/7120/60359237.jpg
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/4462/66094660.jpg

very nice South korea's Supertall Project!!
by the way,What Architect??
Som?

wow, it's really going forward. never thought this project will see the daylight :)

Another 'final' design? What happend to Foster's design?

See new final designs for this tower year after year, aren't they actually going to build it soon? ;)

Another 'final' design? What happend to Foster's design?

See new final designs for this tower year after year, aren't they actually going to build it soon? ;)


yes.. this project will be start soon..
Final Stage for Construction start is Environment Influence Assessment(환경영향평가)
and Groundbreaking Ceremony will be held in 2009(maybe)

Another 'final' design? What happend to Foster's design?

See new final designs for this tower year after year, aren't they actually going to build it soon? ;)


no another... that is Final!
not Foster design... anyone know this project's architect?

in today news,Architect of the Final Lotte World Tower Design is KPF(Kohn Pederson & Fox Architecture),not SOM!! ^^
Lotte world's Tower Construction Groundbreaking Ceremony will be held in 2010.

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/6614/lotte2.jpg

One tower,123 floor,555.65m
Architect is KPF(Kohn Pederson & Fox)

quite a resemblence to 333m building in beijing, and the top is like the shard.

One tower,123 floor,555.65m
so then it's more like 556m? isn't it?

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/7278/img7797eung011.jpg
http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/9850/2eung011.jpg
http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/5201/img7796eung011.jpg

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/7278/img7797eung011.jpg
http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/9850/2eung011.jpg
http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/5201/img7796eung011.jpg

Much of foundation work already have been made progress.

well here's the world exclusive for you on the new design. 555m tall, 123 storeys, offices, residential, hotel... completion date of 2014.

http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/2338KPFPen555mTallKoreanTower_pic1.jpg

story here http://www.skyscrapernews.com/news.php?ref=2338 but this is what i do twitter for -
http://twitter.com/skyscrapernews

I should hold my comment.

Doesn't look anything like the crappy design that KPF submitted for the actual competition.

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http://www.urbanity.es/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/kpf_lottesupertower123_seul_1.jpg

Wow, Seoul is starting to build some megatalls..

Doesn't look anything like the crappy design that KPF submitted for the actual competition.

really? why what did they submit? ive seen thier plans. it's that render shown above.

it looks like the shard currently under construction in London

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http://www.urbanity.es/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/kpf_lottesupertower123_seul_1.jpg

o i love these shots! the russia tower and shard pictures like this are amazing!