An image that I found on the Hariri Pontarini website.

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w132/TorontoWest/YongeandStJoseph-HaririPontarini.jpg

Site locations of nearby projects.
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I *think* there is a thread for this development already... not 100% sure though.

^yeah ... this one is old!

Is it ever going to get built? It looks like it's really nice.

I like how the tower is turned on the podium so it doesnt line up with the street in front.

this looks like a very nice building! nice area, right on yonge, any idea on its status? what sort of price range will it be? not sure this area suits "luxury" condos, but I guess it could.... I think mid-range?

Looks very much like a building from a competition in Vancouver. Can't remember what for, saw it on TV a ways back.

What a nice tower. Thanks for the update.

There have been rumours of a project around here for years, but there is a notice of application for a 49 storey mixed use tower posted at 612 Yonge, right across the street from where Dundonald hits Yonge Street. 5200 sq m
of non residential GFA and 420 dwelling units.
I believe the sign must be newish or I would have seen it before. Anyone know anything about it?

Where the Second Cup is? I hope it doesn't mean the destruction of that 5 storey brick building 50 feet from Yonge on St. Joseph.

I know. Me too. There are junky ones behind it but I fear for that building. It now has yet another Shawarma restaurant in it... the ten millionth between Dundas and Bloor.

The application is online so there should be a thread about it.

Here's the link.

http://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/mmis/2009/te/bgrd/backgroundfile-17832.pdf

TB, I believe the building you refer to is one of the heritage properties in this report. The proposal doesn't involve touching any of the hertige buildings in the vicinity from what I can tell. I don't remember there being another thread for this.

It appears that the 5 storey red brick building is toast. They'll rip it down, and rebuild a facade that will look the same.

Here's the link.

http://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/mmis/2009/te/bgrd/backgroundfile-17832.pdf

TB, I believe the building you refer to is one of the heritage properties in this report. The proposal doesn't involve touching any of the hertige buildings in the vicinity from what I can tell. I don't remember there being another thread for this.

Thanks for the link.

Interesting proposal. I wonder why this building wouldn't have any significant fronting Yonge St? Too noisy? Or is it part of these heritage/zoning protections? I mean if there's any street in Toronto that should have tall buildings fronting it (outside of Bay), it should be Yonge.

I mean if there's any street in Toronto that should have tall buildings fronting it (outside of Bay), it should be Yonge.

Yonge Street as the heart of consumerism and the best candidate for a pedestrian mall would be on the bottom of my list. Jarvis would be my choice. Take X condo's scale and mass and bring it right down to Richmond.

lol at the facade rebuilding, and in terms of yonge needing high rises i agree.

It appears that the 5 storey red brick building is toast. They'll rip it down, and rebuild a facade that will look the same.

Uhmmm... I'm not so sure. That elevation looks very much like they will preserve it. I remember when I was new on SSC and this very proposal came up. It was the first rock 'em-sock-'em argy bargy that I got into! A veritable fisticuffs over whether that poor little Vic should stay or go! It was my introduction to the fact that not everyone is all that keen on Yonge Street Victorians. :lol:

Uhmmm... I'm not so sure. That elevation looks very much like they will preserve it. I remember when I was new on SSC and this very proposal came up. It was the first rock 'em-sock-'em argy bargy that I got into! A veritable fisticuffs over whether that poor little Vic should stay or go! It was my introduction to the fact that not everyone is all that keen on Yonge Street Victorians. :lol:

The elevation looks that way, but they have to knock it down to build the tower over it and then reconstruct it just like is happening with Burano, and happened with Bay-Adelaide. They're demolitions as far as I'm concerned.

If you destroyed a 100 year old painting, then re-painted a replica, it wouldn't be considered preservation. I'm not sure why it's considered preservation if we do the same thing to a building. Seems like it's just a way to demolish the building and make it look like you preserved it.

well, if they take the time to brick by brick rebuild it, it can wind up looking fantastic. I will be very sad if that corner is lost, but will remain optimistic until proven otherwise. I also hope the old Bishop's Block by Shangri La looks good when rebuilt.

If you destroyed a 100 year old painting, then re-painted a replica, it wouldn't be considered preservation.

That only applies to Bay Adelaide which is a replica of the old building. 11 St Joseph, for example, is a rebuilt historical facade more in tune to artists repairing cracked and chipped frescos.


11 st joseph
http://www.tobuilt.ca/php/toimages.php?search_fd1=1605

Yes, that's exactly what I mean. Bay-Adelaide wasn't preservation. Neither is Burano. This proposal?

Burano, AFAIK, will be a reconstruction of the original facade.

The web site is up and running for Five @ 5 St Joseph.

http://fivecondos.com/

I clicked on the link,then a trojan horse warning popped up,did anyone else get this or is it just me?

screen cap

45 storeys. 9' to 10' ceiling height. Approx 153m or more.

http://i416.photobucket.com/albums/pp250/elnerico/5condos.jpg?t=1275286221

http://fivecondos.com/

Looks like wobbly lattice glued onto a pretty standard tower.

There are better images out there:

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/5StJosephs_ExteriorDusk_ViewA03_1193.jpg

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/5StJosephs_EntryDusk_ViewA03_0750.jpg

Restoration of the Yonge Street retail block

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/5StJosephsYongeStreet750.jpg

I was really worried that they were going to destroy the laneway. I love that alley and assumed Toronto would never recognize how wonderful it is.

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This made me very happy. Looks like Toronto will get a funky pedestrian only retail strip after all. Melbourne and London have them, now we will too. How cool is this! Hopefully, the other laneways in downtown Toronto will get the same treatment instead of being destroyed.

Retaining the historic laneway, renovating it, and the encouragement of retail :happy:

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/FiveStNic750.jpg

Those renderings look much better. I am sooooo relieved that they are not ripping down the Yonge Street buildings.

I thought you'd be very pleased. I'm happy about both, but was more concerned about the laneway. It's the last good alley downtown. If this one went, what other would be left?

It's 45s, not 47. And it's basically sold out. The first photo above was taken by me.

Units here were a lot pricier than at most of the other condos I went to see.

It's 45s, not 47. And it's basically sold out. The first photo above was taken by me.

What does the 45 refer to? The project is called "Five", right?

What does the 45 refer to? The project is called "Five", right?

I miss counted, can you change the title of the thread to say 45 not 47.

Ok, but I'm still in the dark. What does the 45 refer to?

The restoration of the store fronts along Yonge is a great treat.

Ok, but I'm still in the dark. What does the 45 refer to?

45 storeys tall. I was confused at first as well.

ahhhh... thanks.

I was wondering why this one was not being "threaded" here...
Nice base, preserving some of the old.

ahhhh... thanks.

He rejected the standard template for thread titles, that's all.

He rejected the standard template for thread titles, that's all.

I didn't reject it, I just neglected to do it. Thanks for fixing it TB.

But now the thread title says "47 St" again. Why? Their website clearly states FORTY-FIVE STOREYS.

A bit of a broken record happened here with the posts, the original 45 was right.

Thanks guys. Corrected.

A bit of a broken record happened here with the posts, the original 45 was right.

So the original 45 wasn't the broken record? Must have been a 33 or 78 then. :laugh:

Shouldn't this be the real Five St Joseph thread?

You are correct, sir! There should only be one thread on this project. I have merged them.

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A tower to make Yonge young again
John Bentley Mays

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/real-estate/a-tower-to-make-yonge-young-again/article1616324/

'Mr. Tall Buildings' sticks to his architect roots
Published on Thursday, Jul. 08, 2010

John Bentley Mays

http://i30.tinypic.com/8yau4k.jpg
Rendering of 5 St. Joseph, first tower in new
Five Condos project proposed for the southwest
corner of Yonge and St. Joseph. Designed for
MOD Developments Inc. and Graywood Develop-
ments Ltd. by David Pontarini, founding partner
in Hariri Pontarini Architects. MOD Developments Inc.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/real-estate/mr-tall-buildings-sticks-to-his-architect-roots/article1633087/

Known for building some of Toronto's most notable skyscrapers, Gary Switzer has a new venture with a like-minded financial backer.

That says 'first tower in new Five condos project'. Does that mean there will be a second tower?

^^ That's a mistake as far as I can tell. Rather, this is the first tower for MOD Developments. Also, the caption for the pic said 555 St. Joseph, which I corrected.

By interchange42 on UT.

Early on in this project we had a gorgeous concept rendering of what Five would look like along its St. Nicholas Street frontage. St. Nick is a rare, narrow, brick-paved lane at this point, and thankfully Mod Developments wanted to preserve and enhance the historic character of the precinct. The design has since progressed, and we can now present a rendering that is much closer to what this face of the building will look like once complete.

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/5StJosephStNicholas1024.jpg

ERA Architects is overseeing the restoration of the heritage components, including both street-level retail and the residential podium units above, in the overall design of the complex by Hariri Pontarini Architects. David Pontarini has designed a new brick and stone façade inspired by the past, complete with large loft-style windows, some with the same Gothic-revival shapes found in the St. Joseph façade. Within this volume are three floors of unique residential lofts, with ceiling heights up to 10’ - making Five perhaps the only loft project in central downtown Toronto.

http://urbantoronto.ca/picoftheday/images/5StJosephStNicholasCrop1024.jpg

New retail is being contemplated that will animate this largely pedestrian-style section of St. Nicholas. These spaces have the flexibility to house small shops or be combined to accommodate larger retailers (about 8,300 sq. ft. of retail is planned). Potential uses being considered are art galleries; flower shops; and one-of-a-kind food uses such as cafes, bakeries and fruit stores (reminiscent of the Summerhill Shops farther north on Yonge). Combined with the new retail planned for the restored Yonge Street buildings (about 7,250 sq. ft.), the new loft office space planned for the upper floors of the Yonge Street buildings (about 9,000 sq. ft.) and the 493 units within the FIVE development, there will be a vitality on this block that will serve as a model for future developments.

Very nice, I love the old Victorian warehouse feel it has. I don't like how some avatar has left their avatar dog outside in a basket on their bike leaning against a wall. One slight shift and that dog could be a pile of pixels on the ground.

Walked by this morning, the buildings involved starting to be fenced off and garbage dumpsters are on site. Really looking forward to this development!

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The city should consider making that laneway pedestrian only after Ford is gone.

Looks like wobbly lattice glued onto a pretty standard tower.

... That's the Canadian Architect's way of differentiating themselves from a typical Ryerson Architecture students design

Notice the 7 stories of Retail to sit on St. Joesph street.

Wonder what type of retail outlets they're thinking? A mini-Mall?

DWELLING UNITS
Tenure Type: Rooms:

Bachelor: 3 (1%)
1 Bedroom: 258 (61%)
2 Bedroom: 159 (38%)
Total Units: 420

from today
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From UT.

That house is looking real good with that ugly rear addition gone.

http://andrewfare.com/UTB/mytoronto14/fivem25.jpg

So are they demolishing the entire block of buildings, or just the St. Joseph building?

^^ Not only are they not demolishing those buildings on Yonge, they're restoring them. Handsome 5 St. Joseph, on the other hand, will be mostly demolished, with the north and west facades preserved / reconstituted.

OOops.. I took a few photos last week, and forgot to post them. That little building behind the corner one, that they are clawing at in this photo is now gone as is shown in the UT photo (it was a ghastly old gay bar called Carrington's, back in the day. YES!! I heard today they are restoring that strip of Vics!!! :cheers:

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Alright, just needed some confirmation, thanks for that Elk. It's an awesome development, I wish more developers would mix the old and new tastefully. I wish Bay Adelaide's old facade would have been better incorporated, it was torn down and replicated.

I get a little misty eyed when I look at this project. It was my very first fight here on SSC about 5 years ago, when this project was announced. Some of the group wanted to bulldoze the corner building and I was mortified!! hehe.....

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One thing I like about this project is that perhaps it represents a new and more respectful approach to saving historical buildings as part of new projects. That earlier proposal to knock down and façade the buildings between the corner of Gloucester and the Beer Store on Church also seems to not be going ahead as planned... the City has designated all of the buildings as "Historical". I somehow think Kryistn wong-tam has had a positive influence in this area. I hope SHE becomes mayor someday soon.

^^??? Most of 5 St. Joseph is going to demolished. And what does the Gloucester project have to do with this project? And KWT has been in office for a very short time and has done almost nothing and you want her to be mayor already?!

saving historical buildings as part of new projects

Are you mean that lonely wall at right side of my second photo?
I somehow think Kryistn wong-tam has had a positive influence in this area. I hope SHE becomes mayor someday soon.

Moreover, many people can be better major than Rob Ford :lol:

^^??? Most of 5 St. Joseph is going to demolished. And what does the Gloucester project have to do with this project? And KWT has been in office for a very short time and has done almost nothing and you want her to be mayor already?!

I'm talking about the buildings on Yonge Street; as far as I know they are all being saved. What does the Gloucester project have to do with it? Well, it has to do with my point about proposed projects in this ward having to respect the existing heritage buildings more than they thought they would have to a decade ago. Have a re-read of what I said, and you'll see where I say:
"perhaps it represents a new and more respectful approach to saving historical buildings as part of new projects."

KWT has been politically active in this community long before she became a councillor. For example, she organized the fight against the Church/Gloucester proposal. I know her, and have followed her progress and yes, would like to see her become Mayor some day. What's wrong with that? :? I see nothing wrong with a small business owner from Church Street working her way up to mayoralty.

By the way, the old pile of bricks behind the buildings on Yonge Street that was demolished was hardly what could be described as historically important. Not every brick building in the city has to be saved; we need to be a little selective in that department.

Are you mean that lonely wall at right side of my second photo?



No, I mean the row of buildings on Yonge Street in front of the project.

^^ Thanks for the clarification. Now I see where you were going with that post.

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These messily maintained buildings along Yonge desperately needed a makeover. Thank god for this project. Hopefully it will inspire further great developments like this on Yonge to improve the quality of the retail strip.

I agree... this might be a great new template for future developments along Yonge Street!

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I say, I thought this was family forum!

It is a specific family, that's all. All good, mate. Totally cool.

I simply love all the updates on Toronto (used to live there). And Elkhanan and Jasonzed are my heroes.

Thank you from across the Pacific.

I say, I thought this was family forum!

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I say, I thought this was family forum!

:lol:

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I live in Radio City right now and my partner and I were looking at some options in the market (read: we need another room for a home office) and we thought this would be a cool building to look into. When this first came online, we got previews of the floor plans and let me tell you - the units were ridiculously laid out and so very cramped. The 1 bedroom + den was basically a 1 bedroom, without any closets, and a den inside what would otherwise be a closet. Endrant.

^^ I found the presentation space decor really well done, but the units over priced. I didn't bother going any further. I've been in a ton of condos and Radio City has some good floor plans; especially the corner units.

Yeah our unit in Radio City is well laid out and very, very function. All the units with a +1 room in this condo had you basically either taking your shoes off by the fridge or basically in the bathroom. Unfortunate! And, how are we gays to keep our wardrobes fresh? No closet space.

Sounds like I made the right choice walking out as soon as I saw the price/sq ft. No closet space? Clothes are so 2011. :colgate:

Sorry, I was comparing Radio City (with good closet space and layout - we have three closets) with 5ive, which is basically .... nothing!

Yes, I know. I was talking about no closets in 5ive. So I guess this going may be roughly the same height a Burano if the height increase to 50 floors happens.

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I almost forgot about that tart.

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Seems like they want to go taller. Yay!

Currently at 45 stories and ???m, with that height increase it would add at least ?m, putting this bad boy at 48 stories and ????m. Lovely.

Sounds like I made the right choice walking out as soon as I saw the price/sq ft. No closet space? Clothes are so 2011. :colgate:

Units were priced at $590/sqft. Very reasonable for the design, location and finishes.

I suppose it looks expensive compared to Radio City's $450/sqft?

Given the option, I’d prefer more living space vs more closet space.