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le Reine
May 31st, 2007, 06:09 PM
^ahahaha... napakalaking industry. :lol:

kyle@1008
May 31st, 2007, 06:11 PM
^^ yes, grabe ang industry na yan :lol: :lol: :lol:

amigo32
May 31st, 2007, 06:20 PM
^^ yes, grabe ang industry na yan :lol: :lol: :lol:

one of the oldest profession:lol:

Sind24
May 31st, 2007, 06:20 PM
why the prostitution comments get deleted? it is an industry and it's related to the economy.

It's because they don't contribute much in our economy. If prostitution is legal, our country will be then collecting more taxes.:lol:

smokingunmanila
June 2nd, 2007, 09:54 AM
Nako wag na nga nating pag-usapan yang mga foreigners na yan! Basta importante, MATALO NATIN SILANG LAHAT AT BAWIIN ANG INANGKIN NILA MULA SA BANSA NATIN!!! Naku wala sanang makatranslate neto!

AGREe! ako dyan....let us fight them in terms of knowledge, know how and hard work...let us all unite and achieve an industrialize Philippines even in 2010!

smokingunmanila
June 2nd, 2007, 09:56 AM
if I said something about the reasons why...

baka magkaroon pa ng away..., and our Mods may closed this Thread,
same like about the other thread with China topic.

I better remain quiet... :)

Honestly wala akong alam dun..can you please post like an objective report here about that incident..I mean taken from news report or something...pls

3cr
June 2nd, 2007, 11:20 AM
This is the type of future leaders we badly need in our country to run for political office para umunlad ang ating bansa at umangat ang kabuhayan ng ating mga mamamayan.


BIG DEAL: MVP in 2010
By Dan Mariano

http://www.manilatimes.net/national/2007/june/01/yehey/opinion/20070601opi2.html
Soon after his ticket swept the polls in his hometown, Makati Mayor Jejomar Binay revealed that what really gave him the preelection jitters was not his rival Sen. Lito Lapid but Manuel V. Pangilinan.

As chief executive officer of First Pacific, MVP would have given Binay a run for his money—figuratively and otherwise. As a top-notch manager, Pangilinan has done wonders to practically every company that has come under his wing, and many Makati voters are well aware of this.

PLDT, for instance, had been nearly run to the ground by its previous owners, but after MVP took it over the phone company became one of the profitable corporations, not only in the Philippines, but also in Asia. Its introduction of broadband services permitted the rise of the previously unheard of business process outsourcing, which laid the groundwork for the call centers that now employ thousands of Filipinos.

MVP also had the foresight to invest in digital information technology, which has led to—among others—the rise of Smart Communications as the number one cellular-phone company in the country.

Pangilinan’s reputation as a miracle worker who has turned around companies engaged in communications, transportation, real estate and water service, among others, has reportedly inspired his admirers to urge him to seek public office.

For far too long, this country has been under the spell of either inept or crooked—or both—politicians who have done little to improve our national life. Perhaps the time has come for us to turn to professional managers—of proven value and unblemished record—to lead us out of our current mess.

MVP in 2010? Why not?

smokingunmanila
June 2nd, 2007, 11:39 AM
Nako matutuwa si Jay Manalo nito...it will be music to his ears

rage@cebu
June 2nd, 2007, 11:43 AM
as i see it around me... it's a YES!

amigo32
June 2nd, 2007, 11:49 AM
Nako matutuwa si Jay Manalo nito...it will be music to his ears


tsismis?:lol:

le Reine
June 2nd, 2007, 11:54 AM
Read this: Worldbank's update for the Philippines http://siteresources.worldbank.org/INTEAPHALFYEARLYUPDATE/Resources/550192-1175629375615/Philippines-Update-April2007.pdf

OtAkAw
June 2nd, 2007, 01:04 PM
Nako matutuwa si Jay Manalo nito...it will be music to his ears

Bading ba si Manny Pangilinan?

@amigo32, Malaking chismis nga to!

smokingunmanila
June 2nd, 2007, 01:20 PM
ala amigo..ano yang tsinitsismis mo?

amigo32
June 2nd, 2007, 01:23 PM
LOL, ikaw ha, ikaw lagi nag uumpisa, sabay iwan mo ako sa buwan.

smokingunmanila
June 2nd, 2007, 01:33 PM
asa global city pa naman yan nakatira...

amigo32
June 2nd, 2007, 01:34 PM
bakit alam na alam mo ha?

ayun sa aking bubuwit! hehehe

smokingunmanila
June 2nd, 2007, 03:07 PM
nag jogging yan eh minsan...kasama yung poddle nya na may damit na pink...hahahahahha

Sinjin P.
June 3rd, 2007, 09:04 AM
Bakit nagiging showbiz na yata ang mga threads ngayon? Pati ang mga Filipino-Spanish heritage threads nahawa. :lol: Now, end this. :evil:

OtAkAw
June 3rd, 2007, 11:18 AM
^^National Pastime ng mga Pilipino ang chismisan! :)

smokingunmanila
June 3rd, 2007, 01:13 PM
well personalities were mentioned as an alternative leader for an industrialize Philippines so we have to discuss their issues..I don't think that is showbiz? Pangilinan is not a showbiz character? It so happens na may kabit sya na showbiz.

kyle@1008
June 3rd, 2007, 08:54 PM
one of the oldest profession:lol:


actually , and this is a fact.... prostitution is the world's oldest industry, ask any archeologist or Antiquity Historian...:cheers:

Animo
July 18th, 2007, 08:58 PM
By SHEILA CRISOSTOMO
The Philippine Star

More than 6,000 Filipino computer experts based in Singapore will attempt to hack the system to be used by the Commission on Elections to pilot test Internet voting there from July 20 to Aug. 8.

“Filipino IT experts in Singapore have signified they will try to hack the system professionally, not for personal gain or personal upliftment,” COMELEC Commissioner and Overseas Absentee Voting Committee head Florentino Tuazon said.

The COMELEC is holding the mock election to test the technology of Scytl Consortium, a Spain-based company contracted to implement the P23.5-million project. The agency will be using national heroes as senatorial bets and fictitious groups as candidates for the party-list elections.

Tuazon said hackers would be submitting a written report to the COMELEC whether or not they penetrated the Scytl system.

“If, indeed, they are able to do that, they have to show proof. I think even our embassy there, without our knowledge, will allow non-registered voters to try to vote through the Internet,” he added.

Tuazon said Beverly Tacur, who heads the International Foundation for Election System (IFES) in the Philippines, has agreed to send “auditors” that will attempt to hack the system before, during and after the pilot test of Internet voting.

IFES is a non-profit organization funded by the United States Agency for International Development (USAID). It is based in Washington.

“The important phase of the pilot testing would be to check the penetration aspect of the system. In other words, to find out if there are hackers that can get into the system,” he said.

He expressed confidence that the Scytl system is secure.

“I am very confident. When I talked to them (Scytl), they were very confident. In fact they have already secured two contracts for the 2008 presidential elections in the US. They will participate in the 2008 presidential elections in certain states involving particular groups of voters,” he added.

After the pilot testing, it will be determined if Internet voting can be implemented for overseas absentee voters in the 2010 presidential elections.

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/storypage.aspx?StoryID=84934

j.r.
July 19th, 2007, 11:01 AM
hmmm... we're all ears... and eyes...

Thunderflip
July 26th, 2007, 11:24 AM
Not yet but soon. I hope we'll get there by 2010! Let's work for it!

kevinb
July 27th, 2007, 11:05 AM
Marami pang terms eh like BRICs (BRazil, Russia, India, China) or Chindia (china, india) etc. etc.

Meron ding BRIMC, Mexico being the "M".

all those singaporean or hongkokng based economy related mags. never include Phils in their lineup.

Oo nga. And the news about the Philippines are sooooo few. :ohno:

As far as I know, PNB, Union Bank, and PCI Equitable Bank offers online banking.

BDO, too. BTW, BDO and EPCI Bank have already merged, BDO being the surviving entity. I wonder what bank name will survive if PNB and DBP will be merged. Anyways...

I only thing I can say is you guys should more be proud that The Philippines has achieved this status and not laugh about it.

I agree. It makes those hyena-like people (hyena becuase of the sound it makes, like laughing jackasses) have no identity. Basta. :ohno:

Animo
July 31st, 2007, 02:54 AM
By Manoy Teban

It is sad to think about the condition of the Philippines my mother land. The poor getting poorer and the rich becoming richer.Poverty is everywhere that is far different than what media is showing the world. Crimes are rampant that if you are not used to this kind of life you would think of getting out of there as soon as possible. It also seems that the whole system is a big clump of mess. It is also funny to think that many Filipinos have time in their hands to protest for many unknown reasons. With all these chaos happening, many ask is there hope for the Philippines? My answer would be yes.

You may wonder why my answer is yes, it is so because I believe that there is no impossible thing in this world that cannot be fixed, unless it's totally dead. In the case of the Philippines, the big answer lies in every individual. Every individual has the right to change the course of the country. Voting is a powerful tool, like any other tools if used in the right way can create newer and better outcome. But if used inappropriately, negative results can be expected. In this case, each Filipino who voted should ask themselves, have I done the right thing last election?. Did I sell my precious vote? If the answer is yes, these Filipinos have no right at all to complain. Election in the country thus had become a business. Many unqualified candidates who are for pure profit would jump in the contest and will do all their best to win. They will use the 3 Gs to be able to secure a position where their investment will have a multiple folds return, thanks for those stupid Filipinos who sold their votes. It is apparent that gone are the days that to become a politician or law maker in the Philippines you need to have degree in law or other related courses. At present all you need is a fat wallet to initially fund your campaign. It does not matter if you know anything about the law or the position you wanted to represent for. Money has become the biggest attraction to these positions. With this reason I don't see any reason for these activist and stupid Filipinos to cry about how poor they had become and why they get poor service from these corrupt officials because they are the very persons who placed them in these positions through their irresponsible voting.

Also, I am not fond of watching all these activists marching down the street and causing problems. Their battle cry is like a worn out theme which originated from the pre Marcos era. Is there nothing new that they can use? I was once an activist myself in U.P. But the marches that I join are limited to the ones that I think really has causes like marches against tuition hikes and other local problems. I do not join marches against the U.S. and the government because first of all it's baseless and stupid I guess. I am not a hypocrite which in this case the government is the one that pays for my tuition. I don't bite the hand that feeds me. I may sound confusing but what I am trying to say is that people who join these activities should think first if the cause of the movement is really worth it and can be addressed immediately. I think it's stupid to shout against an enemy miles and miles away and doesn't care at all. And besides it's a fact that these marches are just used as excuse by many to be away from jobs or get some extra cash. I can still remember many of my school mates join the rally against the U.S government and halfway of the march most of them dispersed and went inside McDonalds. Wow! they don't want US capitalism but they also consume US products. Funny to think some of them don't even know what is written in the placards they are holding and most of them are thick faced to admit they are there because they are paid 20-50 pesos. Another example is the State of the nation address by the president; it seems that every time this event occurs it's like a holiday for rallyists. Sona is one activity that is slowly becoming a well known international event in the Philippines, in addition to traditional holidays and festivities we have, no wonder many foreign activists even joined in. Of course who would think it's a serious thing when you're surrounded by loud music, stage plays confetti's and many more “fun” stuff and activities. I think these rallies can be compared to the running of the bulls in Spain, and other mass festivities found in other countries.

Poverty is one thing that makes Philippines famous nowadays. The most common claim is that the government does not provide enough for the poor people. First of all these people are the ones who brought their miserable conditions to themselves. First they went to the big city hoping that they can find money in the streets there. Well sorry for you, the reality is that city life is not for everybody. Second they already know that they cannot even feed themselves, why still create more babies that produce more miserable people when they grow up. If I am the president I will challenge these people crowding the city to go back to their provinces and try to make their lives better there. And also they should stop claiming that the government owes them. First of all are they paying tax that can support the government? Well in the case of the Philippines it just goes to the bulging pockets of corrupt politicians, but that's another topic. As far as my studies had taught me, a good ideal government survives on the taxes paid by its people. And in this type of government the people who pay taxes have all the rights to be supported by the government. In simpler ideas lets put it this way, you harvest what you planted and in the case of the miserable Filipinos who sold their votes, they get what they deserve. I used to feel sorry about these people, but I learned my lesson that only the person can change his life. If I did not learn my lesson and did not apply these in my own personal life, I too maybe had joined these masses of miserable Filipinos. So there goes my reason why I don't pity them anymore.

It is given the Philippine government is considered one of the most corrupt in the whole world, but still there is hope. If all Filipinos unite and initiate the changes amongst themselves first, the power of change will possibly invade the conscience of the corrupt officials. We did it once, when we toppled the Marcos Regime so this is one reason I do not believe Filipinos cannot do it. We are in a modern age now where we all have access to other governments via technology. All we need is learn from these governments and apply the positive things to our own. Filipinos are well known for being good copycats, so why don't we use this towards the good of the whole country. Also, many Filipinos had been to other countries where they experienced how to become a disciplined and responsible citizen. How come they do not share these experiences when they go home?

I am challenging you brothers and sisters to start the changes for good of ourselves and our country, and be authentic in doing it. Our generations have more intelligence now, I challenge all of you to unite and initiate the changes our whole country needs. If we can easily learn how to operate ipods and computers and other gadgets, we can do this too when it comes to our society. Let's all save the Philippines from further misery.

http://www.thenewstoday.info/2007/07/30/the.future.and.well.being.of.the.philippines.lie.on.the.hands.of.its.very.own.people.html

coacozambo92
July 31st, 2007, 05:44 PM
Philippines as newly industrializing country? Why new?? We are industrialized since 1968... imagine when we have the National Steel Corporation? The nickel processing plants, the ATLAS? Remember? The only sad thing we do is we wreck everything.. We are like ship who sail smoothly then suddenly wrecked by our selves. We loss everything.. look!!! We almost got our path ahead of Malaysia or even Singapore if we have a good and strong KAPITAN. It is us who always complain without looking the future. Now everybody know, we are loss. Think of the investment... before we have a very strong investment from WEST because China and Vietnam by that time are inert in world trading. Now it's too late... we have a strong competition with China and Vietnam not counting other south asian countries. The Western investors are looking for a partner who are more reliable and will give them profit. Our loving Philippines is a victim of her people by itself, a strong pride of national interest lead us to the edge of suffering.. (no job, loss job, investors exodus). SAD!!! We are a country of tooooo much complaining... no sacrifice.... no feeling or thinking of the future.. We are now the future.. no job for us in the Philippines.. we loss our most qualified people to run our INDUSTRIAL MIGHT? Why? They left abroad.. the multi-skilled workers are all gone.. then how can we get them back??? SALARY??? Oh nooooo?

akiba
August 7th, 2007, 02:32 PM
Philippines as newly industrializing country? Why new?? We are industrialized since 1968... imagine when we have the National Steel Corporation? The nickel processing plants, the ATLAS? Remember? The only sad thing we do is we wreck everything.. We are like ship who sail smoothly then suddenly wrecked by our selves. We loss everything.. look!!! We almost got our path ahead of Malaysia or even Singapore if we have a good and strong KAPITAN. It is us who always complain without looking the future. Now everybody know, we are loss. Think of the investment... before we have a very strong investment from WEST because China and Vietnam by that time are inert in world trading. Now it's too late... we have a strong competition with China and Vietnam not counting other south asian countries. The Western investors are looking for a partner who are more reliable and will give them profit. Our loving Philippines is a victim of her people by itself, a strong pride of national interest lead us to the edge of suffering.. (no job, loss job, investors exodus). SAD!!! We are a country of tooooo much complaining... no sacrifice.... no feeling or thinking of the future.. We are now the future.. no job for us in the Philippines.. we loss our most qualified people to run our INDUSTRIAL MIGHT? Why? They left abroad.. the multi-skilled workers are all gone.. then how can we get them back??? SALARY??? Oh nooooo?


Yes, a newly industrializing country due to foreigners, not us. :lol:
Mahilig kasi tau sa " aasa sa iba." :ohno:

Thunderflip
August 8th, 2007, 11:30 AM
Well, the term "industrialized" is often assimilated to the meaning of a "first world" or developed country. I don't think that if a country already has a large scale amount of big, notable and well developed industires it should already be considered as industrialized. For sure, we di have a lot of industry. But so does India, Bangladesh, Nigeria and Kenya. Take note that we still have backward technology (having to depend on foreign acquired machinese, foreign aid for manufacturies and building), bad infrastructure and national connection to conduct macroeconomic activities. And there are many places in the country that are still considered "far-flung", backward (barrio style), isolated, separated from civilization and still very agricultural in nature & development, believe me.

But the point is that historically, we've missed our chances...like A LOT. For thousands of years, we have been considered as a trading center in the region stating the fact that we have a centralized geographic advantage/ attractivity in terms of location, we are in the center (not isolated in one corner like Korea, New Zealand, Iceland, Portugal etc. if you get what I mean). And the Philippines has already patricipated in globalization since the 16th Century through the Galleon Trade linking travel, products and migration between China and Mexico! The fist steel railway and modern bridge in Asia was built in Luzon (17th century!), first publishing house in Cebu(1593) Asia's 1st university (UST), Asia's 1st airline (PAL), etc, we have pioneered in so many things....Philippine ports (Manila, Iloilo, Cebu, Davao, Zamboanga, Puetro Gallera) and commercial activities have been opened up to the whole world in the 1850's, long before Japan and Korea opened up to the world and were actually still backward and poor with their national isolation back then! The Phils really could have developed as an industrial center a loong time ago, like aaaages!!!! It's just that we've never took the opportunity to strive for greatness. In the 16th century, when Bankok, Jakarta, Osaka, Singapore, Kuala Lumpure were only poor and tiny villages with no development...MANILA was already a highly developed cosmopolitan city with decent infrastructur, canalization, transportation system and well-developed industries....

SAYANG TALAGA, MGA SELFISH AT TANGA YUNG MGA TAO, HINDI NAGIISIP, MGA WALANG PAKE ALAM, MGA TANGA AT BOBO NA WALANG PANGARAP KUNDI MANGURAKOT< MAGTAMBAY AT MAGPAKASARAP SA BUHAY NA PARANG JUAN TAMAD, BABOY! MGA WALANG PANGARAP...

WHat we actually have today is nothing compared to the greatness that we once were in the past. Now all we can do is hope and strive, have ambition to save this country. For me, we are not yet newly industrializing but we are sure getting there. We just have to play our cards right in the next few years. The competition of globalization is actually giving our generation a choice, what we want to do with this country is up to us.

flesh_is_weak
October 30th, 2007, 02:50 PM
to those of you like me born between 1980-1990, have you ever took some time to ponder on where our generation would be in about 20 years from now? to us living in the age of call centers, the nursing boom, online forums and blogging, where do you think would we be--and Philippine society, in general, which we would be running soon--in the year 2030?

animasola
October 30th, 2007, 03:16 PM
^^Still a perpetual emerging and developing Nation.

Rence
October 30th, 2007, 05:39 PM
Gurang na tayo niyan! Anyway - Third World country with around 130 million people!

hiiamdib
October 30th, 2007, 09:21 PM
Well, with a electronic balloting with a much cleaner and credible election... hmmm.... a much better position pobably. Well, with the political stability comes with the contiuous economic growth and stability also.

flymordecai
October 30th, 2007, 09:43 PM
In 2030:

1. A More Peaceful, United Nation
2. Strong Economy, on the verge of becoming First World Nation (in another 10-15 years) with diversified industries
3. Educated Population
4. Less Politicking
5. A Different, Positive Mentality

kiretoce
October 30th, 2007, 10:10 PM
Your generation (and succeeding ones) will be scattered to the the four corners of the globe. :okay:

pau_p1
October 31st, 2007, 04:18 AM
Your generation (and succeeding ones) will be scattered to the the four corners of the globe. :okay:

I agree....

icarusrising
October 31st, 2007, 04:27 AM
Gurang na tayo niyan! Anyway - Third World country with around 130 million people!

Everyone's free to voice out their opinions but hope you don't mind... napansin ko lang, a lot of your postings dwell on negative things... Wala lang... I respect your opinion but I understand that you are part of an institution that promotes an orchidarium in Manila, tama ba? Iba lang siguro expectation ko from people who promote tourism. :dunno:

I want to add 130 million and STRONG!

waketrex
October 31st, 2007, 05:05 AM
somehow ASEAN integrated

bitoy
October 31st, 2007, 05:12 AM
It will no longer be called "Generation" ~ you will belong to a "Tribo". Yikes!

para maganda --- "Tropang Pinoy" sa iba-ibang lupalop ng kamunduhan. :lol:




"kamunduhan sounds sexy" - :nuts:

Sinjin P.
October 31st, 2007, 05:24 AM
to those of you like me born between 1980-1990, have you ever took some time to ponder on where our generation would be in about 20 years from now? to us living in the age of call centers, the nursing boom, online forums and blogging, where do you think would we be--and Philippine society, in general, which we would be running soon--in the year 2030?

We'd become dirtier and dirtier if we don't begin to clean up now. Mactan Channel is starting to become a Pasig River of its own :bash:

kiretoce
October 31st, 2007, 06:20 AM
It will no longer be called "Generation" ~ you will belong to a "Tribo". Yikes!

para maganda --- "Tropang Pinoy" sa iba-ibang lupalop ng kamunduhan. :lol:




"kamunduhan sounds sexy" - :nuts:

You crack me up all the time Tsinoy! :rofl:

Askal82
October 31st, 2007, 08:04 AM
It will no longer be called "Generation" ~ you will belong to a "Tribo". Yikes!

para maganda --- "Tropang Pinoy" sa iba-ibang lupalop ng kamunduhan. :lol:




"kamunduhan sounds sexy" - :nuts:

Makamundo nga ba ang mga Pinoy? :lol:

le Reine
October 31st, 2007, 08:33 AM
^^hello?! magiging 89 million ba tayo kung hindi? wahahaha...:lol:

frustratedarchitect
February 20th, 2008, 10:26 AM
I donrt know kung saang thread dapat to, but I saw this in the Kenya thread..Nakakaamze na wla ang Philippines sa list. Which is good. Although di ko alam kung saang source to galing.

Current list of LEAST DEVELOPED CONTRIES


Africa (34 Countries)

Angola
Benin
Burkina Faso
Burundi
Central African Republic
Chad
Comoros
Democratic Republic of the Congo
Djibouti
Equatorial Guinea
Eritrea
Ethiopia
Gambia
Guinea
Guinea-Bissau
Lesotho
Liberia
Madagascar
Malawi
Mali
Mauritania
Mozambique
Niger
Rwanda
Sao Tome and Principe
Senegal
Sierra Leone
Somalia
Sudan
Tanzania
Togo
Uganda
Zambia

Asia (10 Countries)

Afghanistan
Bangladesh
Bhutan
Cambodia
Lao People’s Democratic Republic
Maldives
Myanmar
Nepal
Timor-Leste
Yemen


Oceania (5 Countries)

Kiribati
Samoa
Solomon Islands
Tuvalu
Vanuatu


America (1 Country)
Haiti

le Reine
February 20th, 2008, 02:05 PM
^^My God, bakit mo naman isasama ang Philippines sa LEAST DEVELOPED country?!? Matagal na tayong wala sa level na yan. Low-middle income tayo or developing country. :lol:

kevinb
February 20th, 2008, 09:28 PM
^^ Agree. Papasok na nga yata tayo sa Upper Middle-income generating countries eh.

Maxxclip
February 21st, 2008, 01:40 AM
^^:)yup...my estimate...probably by 2015 upper-middle na tayo..

Manila-X
February 21st, 2008, 05:51 AM
I don't even look at The Philippines as lower-middle. It's middle and is about to reach upper middle.

Lower middle countries would be Nicaragua, Dominican Republic, Kenya, El Salvador, Nigeria, etc. Compare them to The Philippines?

kevinb
February 21st, 2008, 04:46 PM
^^ That classification is actually from ADB. I read that from an ADB report three or four years ago. Probably at this very moment, upper-middle na tayo.

brownman
February 21st, 2008, 04:53 PM
^^ Which is a good thing. At least somehow we're inching our way up to be first world. But isn't it the pace of growth and development we have is a little slow compared to Vietnam just to name one.

kevinb
February 21st, 2008, 04:55 PM
^^ I agree. But with the status that we have now, it could take a while before Vietnam overtake us.

brownman
February 21st, 2008, 04:59 PM
But then again, we could still do better than what we're actually gaining now. It's just too much politics that drags us behind everytime.

kevinb
February 21st, 2008, 05:41 PM
^^ Somehow, you've got a point there. I hope our next president will be like, at least in alleviating our economic status, GMA, or better.

OtAkAw
February 21st, 2008, 06:11 PM
^^And then let us also hope that the opposition group to that next president won't be as poisonous as the opposition force of today's time.

kevinb
February 21st, 2008, 06:13 PM
^^ What I'm hoping for the future's opposition is that they won't be opposing the administration's plans in making the country a prosperous nation.

kiretoce
March 25th, 2008, 08:49 PM
Let’s resurrect our basic industries (http://www.manilatimes.net/national/2008/mar/26/yehey/opinion/20080326opi3.html)

One of the sad things that have happened to our country is the death of our basic industries. These were allowed to expire like the sunset.

It’s too late for us—some say—to begin making ourselves industrially self-sufficient. But it still puzzles me why we sold all our iron ore and other minerals to Japan and other countries but did not bother to build our own steel industry. We can’t even manufacture our own spoons, forks and knives.

Economies of scale are supposed to make it impossible for us to have become master-makers of tableware that don’t bend. So, what do we have now? The Filipinos (but not those who live in the gated villages) use spoons and forks that bend. Even the very rich Filipinos who go to the restaurants in Rockwell and Serendra have to use these cheap imported tableware. You only get to use dignified silverware if you eat at the prohibitive fine-dining restaurants of the Shangrila and the like, where you are given cloth napkins too.

In my mind one has to include the Marikina shoe industry and its brethren, the Ang Tibay, the Elpo, Marcelo and the Hale shoe factories that died because there was no rational government policy to encourage and support industrialization. There were also our many toy makers and textile product firms.

Protectionism, corruption

These could not survive because we had to import the raw materials and the processes of importing those and of giving them some kind of help to survive were attended by corruption. It was not perpetrated by the shoemakers and textile industry people themselves but by government-connected kleptocrats.

In opting to let these industries die, the government economic policymakers were guided by their horror of protectionism and graft and corruption that always come with it—at least in the Philippines and some other Third World countries. So we ended up being completely sold on the free market and global free trade.

Without seeing too deeply what kind of economy both Singapore and Hong Kong had, our economists pointed to the glories of these two places’ economic success. We became Asean’s most avid pushers of GATT, WTO and DOHA.

But now we find DOHA and the spirit of global free trade sputtering.

And we see that the most successful economies are not those which, like the Philippines, had governments that gave the gospel of free trade the fidelity that they could not give the Christian gospels.

Controlled economies

Singapore is not at all as liberal as its admirers want to advertise it. The Singapore government itself never hides its being in active control of the island’s economy. Hong Kong—said to be the capital of laissez-faire and true economic freedom under the British and even now under Beijing—has always had an economy that is directed by its government.

And the United States, which taught us to embrace free trade and economic liberalism and the spirit of anti-protectionism, is itself protectionist and becoming more so.

The world’s most dynamic economy today is China. Its Communist Party rulers have decided to turn its back on Marxism and Maoism and have adopted a controlled market economy.

India, the second remarkable world economy today, started out as a socialist country whose government helped its most important industries to flourish.

The admired and multi-award winning American business-and-economy writer, Robert J. Samuelson (Newsweek, Washinton Post, The Boston Globe, etc.) has acknowledged in a column that appeared two months ago that countries have become more nationalistic as they become more interdependent in the global economy.

New mercantilism

He finds, and is disturbed by, the “new mercantilism” that is seen or reflected in Valdimir Putin’s Russia, in China and its refusal to heed US and European appeals for it to revalue the renminbi (or the yuan), in the US-Peru trade agreement, in the actuations of Hugo Chávez especially his use of Venezuelan oil to further his political interests and build a bloc of countries in Latin America.

“They’re adopting policies intended to advance their own economic and political interests at other countries’ expense. As practiced until the mid- 19th century, mercantilism aimed to do just that,” Samuelson writes.

He continues: “It was an economic philosophy that favored large trade surpluses. At the time, this had some logic. Trade was an adjunct to military power. Exports earned gold and silver coin, which financed armies and navies. But mercantilism fell into disfavor as a way to promote national prosperity. Free trade, argued Adam Smith and David Ricardo, would benefit all countries, because each could specialize in what it did best—the doctrine of ‘comparative advantage.’ The post-World War II economic order took free trade as its ideal, even though trade barriers were lifted slowly. Now mercantilism is making a comeback, as governments try to manipulate markets to their advantage.”

Comparative advantage

Unfortunately for the Philippines and a lot of other similarly situated poor countries and former colonies, they have very little “comparative advantage” because they were not allowed to develop it by their colonizers.

I hate sounding like a columnist of the 60s. But it is looking today that China, India and Vietnam did the right thing but we did not.

lazybum
March 25th, 2008, 09:24 PM
Let’s resurrect our basic industries (http://www.manilatimes.net/national/2008/mar/26/yehey/opinion/20080326opi3.html)

One of the sad things that have happened to our country is the death of our basic industries. These were allowed to expire like the sunset.

It’s too late for us—some say—to begin making ourselves industrially self-sufficient. But it still puzzles me why we sold all our iron ore and other minerals to Japan and other countries but did not bother to build our own steel industry. We can’t even manufacture our own spoons, forks and knives.


In order for the Philippines to move forward, first and foremost, it has to have a viable agricultural base that can support and sustain the food supply requirements of the country's growing population. Very few countries in the world have advanced industrially without a strong and vibrant agricultural base. The Philippines have always relagated agriculture at the back end of its economic priorities. It is high time to reverse this condition. Look at the U.S., the State of California by itself, can literally provide the food the entire world will need.

kiretoce
March 31st, 2008, 01:49 AM
RP turning into First World (http://www.manilatimes.net/national/2008/mar/30/yehey/metro/20080330met1.html)

Insisting on the gains made in strengthening the economy, President Gloria Arroyo has expressed confidence that the Philippines is at a “tipping point” and will reach First World status within a generation.

In a report filed by the Philip*pine News Agency, Mrs. Arroyo said “I’m confident that the Philippines will tip forward in pursuit of reaching the status of first-world within a generation.”

The President said this in her speech during the Philippine Development Forum (PDF) held March 26 at the Fontana Convention Center at the Clark Freeport Zone in Pampanga.

“It is my pleasure to join you in our constantly productive and insightful dialogue on Philip*pine development,” the Presi*dent enthused to the PDF participants, assuring them that the year “2008 holds real promise for a different reason—not only do we expect to sustain our growth, but as a result of our total economic overhaul, we are, I believe, well-positioned to weather a global economic slowdown which, unfortunately, will affect all of us.”

Citing 2007 as the “best year for the Philippine economy in over 30 years with a 7.3 percent economic growth,” the President told the country’s investors and creditors, including the World Bank, that “the maturity in our economy has brought with it a new confidence that forms the foundation of sustained economic growth moving forward.”

“We assure you there will be no rest. We are continuing the pace of progress that has succeeded in strengthening our economy,” Mrs. Arroyo said, adding, “we made a policy decision that—in any case since we were not expected to balance our budget last year—we should spend all that extra revenue on infrastructure and social services.”

“The national budget which I signed a few weeks ago provides a road map for realizing our priorities in 2008 and for the remainder of my term. It should provide you, our international donor and creditor community, with a sense of our priorities and our thinking about the future of our nation,” the President said as she pointed out that “overall, the bud*get provides a buffer to miti*gate the pain of a deteriorating global economy and the accom*panying rise in prices which affects food and transportation the most.”

“Political noise there is, but it need not interfere with economic progress and reform. This (2008) budget helps make that point. The people are tired of partisan wrang*ling, they want all of us to do our job—which is to work for the in*terest of the people, keeping the nation strong and stable, and always moving forward,” stressed Mrs. Arroyo.

“First, the budget reflects our values and policy priorities for investing in our people. This budget invests in what we call the three ‘Es.’ They’re the essential building blocks of a nation, namely: the economy, education and the environment. Every Filipino wants a good job, food on the table, sound education for their children and a healthy environment with clean air, clean water and clean land.

“Second, this budget represents another important step in the economic development of the Philippines, namely, fiscal disci*pline . . . Part of the plan includes a march towards a balanced budget for the first time in many years.

“Lastly, this budget proves once again that members of Congress from both the House and the Senate and all parties can come together to work with the Executive branch to get things done for the nation.”

diz
April 1st, 2008, 04:30 AM
yah sure.

bariQ
April 1st, 2008, 08:32 AM
bibilib na ako na NIC na tayo pag wala na akong nakikitang kalat sa daan

NOVO ECIJANO
April 1st, 2008, 06:33 PM
a part of interesting discussion from wikipedia...
http://[edit] Why do you want to include Philippines anyway ?

Why do you want to include Philippines anyway?

Some people already argue about this. I think they got a good point here, there's no reason to put it in the list. Sure the book did mention the country's name, but it also mentioned Indonesia, which a sane person will agree it shouldn't be on the list. This country has no economic significance or any outstanding multinational companies like in India and China, and it is undoubtedly have lower achievenment compared to its neighbour like Malaysia and Thailand. Instead of concentrating on production, the country economy depends quite a lot on remmitance, mostly millions of low-paid workers send their money back to their home country, which gives huge contribution to their GDP. There's much better candidates can fill the list like a couple of countries in south America. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nomo1 (talk • contribs) 21:21, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

You are not the first user that comment based in that, in their opinion, a certain country should/should not be included. We are not here to "decide" what country is a NIC what country is not. We simply research the subject and if we find enough and strong evidence that a country is a NIC, we add it to the table. We just must not decide what is and what is not a NIC. AlexC. ( Talk? ) 21:32, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
The Philippines is economically significant. It is the world's top supplier of civilian maritime personnel.(crew/officers of ships) Without maritime personnel, the world shipping industry and global trade will suffer tremendously. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.175.176.50 (talk) 14:06, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Newly_industrialized_country"

dwyne
April 2nd, 2008, 08:12 AM
I believe all we need is Discipline.. Which was LOST... Democracy? No... People Power 1 2 and 3 or make it 4, It's getting worse, our country has become a country of Mobs, ambitious and adventurists... Forgive me and I do not mean any harm nor to start Flaming on this thread but I hope that our country should face and suffer a Civil War... because we are divided, socially, politically and ECONOMICALLY... for us to know and better understand what should be our role for our country and for the world... If we would be in a civil war, people will be united with their principles and they will have a Single CAUSE... With that Cause and belief that they Fight for they will win.. we will win... After all of the Scums and Enemies of the state eliminated, people will start to move on without the KONTRABIDA's to RALLY there, to PROTEST here and to achieve the Goals remembering the horrors of what happened and learning from it... I know many people will suffer and die from it but if there will be no more other ways to CHANGE, all we need is an Able Strategist to orchestrate such event...

Sounds Cruel? Morbid?

I stand to what I have said even if this would be the last resort a loyal man could do to his country and it's next generation...

-TC-
April 2nd, 2008, 05:25 PM
http://business.inquirer.net/money/topstories/view/20080402-127940/Philippines-no-longer-economic-laggard-of-SE-Asia----ADB

Philippines no longer economic laggard of SE Asia -- ADB

Agence France-Presse
04/02/2008

MANILA, Philippines -- The Philippines is no longer the laggard of Southeast Asia after posting high economic growth while keeping inflation under control, the Asian Development Bank (ADB) said Wednesday.

The 7.3 percent economic growth posted in 2007 showed the Philippines "is no longer the laggard (of Asia.) It is approaching the average (of economic growth) of the region as a whole," said Thomas Crouch, deputy director-general of the ADB.

However, he said Manila must not fritter away the gains by resorting to handing out broad subsidies and price controls amid pressures brought about by soaring food and energy prices.

The growth in 2007 was the highest in 31 years and surpassed the average 6.5 percent growth for Southeast Asia in that year.

Additionally, the growth came even while the government was shrinking the budget deficit to about 1.0 percent of gross domestic product (GDP), Crouch noted.

But he warned that assistance to the poor should be carefully targetted to the most disadvantaged sectors and cautioned against resorting to subsidies which might increase the deficit with only minimal help to the poor.

The Philippines has largely lagged behind most of its Southeast Asian neighbors with growth rates usually well below the region's average.

The Manila-based multilateral institution is forecasting the Philippine economy to grow 6.0 percent in 2008 and by 6.2 percent in 2009.

"The challenging external environment in 2008 will temper growth" all over Asia, he said, citing rising food and oil prices and the economic slowdown in the United States.

But he commended the government's economic management team as "competent, capable and committed," as he forecast that inflation in the Philippines would only have a "slight uptick" in 2008 while other countries in the region would see larger jumps.

He credited much of the success to the government's fiscal consolidation in recent years, saying it had started a "virtuous cycle" which had brought down interest rates and kept inflation low, further encouraging investment.

Among the main challenges ahead is how to spend more to spur growth and pull more people out of poverty while still maintaining the fiscal discipline to attain a balanced budget this year, Crouch told reporters.

Crouch conceded that there was growing pressure for the government to spend more on infrastructure and social services in order to sustain growth in the face of the economic slowdown abroad.

However he said that there was also the issue of "credibility" among foreign lenders and investors, that the government maintain its commitments to balance its budget.

"Investment partners now regard this as a litmus test of credibility," he said.

He conceded that poverty was still widespread in this country despite the economic growth and said that "growth should be more sustained and inclusive" to reach wider groups.

World Bank economists on Tuesday, also cited the Philippines' economic performance, forecasting GDP growth of 5.9 and 6.1 percent for 2008 and 2009. But they warned that the country's window of opportunity to sustain such growth would not remain open for long.

kiretoce
April 2nd, 2008, 05:35 PM
^^ :righton: :banana: :cheer: :carrot: :cheers2: :cucumber: :tyty: :pepper: :applause:

Nabartek
April 2nd, 2008, 08:06 PM
In order for the Philippines to move forward, first and foremost, it has to have a viable agricultural base that can support and sustain the food supply requirements of the country's growing population. Very few countries in the world have advanced industrially without a strong and vibrant agricultural base. The Philippines have always relagated agriculture at the back end of its economic priorities. It is high time to reverse this condition. Look at the U.S., the State of California by itself, can literally provide the food the entire world will need.

For real?

Manila-X
April 3rd, 2008, 08:49 AM
http://business.inquirer.net/money/topstories/view/20080402-127940/Philippines-no-longer-economic-laggard-of-SE-Asia----ADB

Philippines no longer economic laggard of SE Asia -- ADB

Agence France-Presse
04/02/2008

MANILA, Philippines -- The Philippines is no longer the laggard of Southeast Asia after posting high economic growth while keeping inflation under control, the Asian Development Bank (ADB) said Wednesday.

The 7.3 percent economic growth posted in 2007 showed the Philippines "is no longer the laggard (of Asia.) It is approaching the average (of economic growth) of the region as a whole," said Thomas Crouch, deputy director-general of the ADB.

However, he said Manila must not fritter away the gains by resorting to handing out broad subsidies and price controls amid pressures brought about by soaring food and energy prices.

The growth in 2007 was the highest in 31 years and surpassed the average 6.5 percent growth for Southeast Asia in that year.

Additionally, the growth came even while the government was shrinking the budget deficit to about 1.0 percent of gross domestic product (GDP), Crouch noted.

But he warned that assistance to the poor should be carefully targetted to the most disadvantaged sectors and cautioned against resorting to subsidies which might increase the deficit with only minimal help to the poor.

The Philippines has largely lagged behind most of its Southeast Asian neighbors with growth rates usually well below the region's average.

The Manila-based multilateral institution is forecasting the Philippine economy to grow 6.0 percent in 2008 and by 6.2 percent in 2009.

"The challenging external environment in 2008 will temper growth" all over Asia, he said, citing rising food and oil prices and the economic slowdown in the United States.

But he commended the government's economic management team as "competent, capable and committed," as he forecast that inflation in the Philippines would only have a "slight uptick" in 2008 while other countries in the region would see larger jumps.

He credited much of the success to the government's fiscal consolidation in recent years, saying it had started a "virtuous cycle" which had brought down interest rates and kept inflation low, further encouraging investment.

Among the main challenges ahead is how to spend more to spur growth and pull more people out of poverty while still maintaining the fiscal discipline to attain a balanced budget this year, Crouch told reporters.

Crouch conceded that there was growing pressure for the government to spend more on infrastructure and social services in order to sustain growth in the face of the economic slowdown abroad.

However he said that there was also the issue of "credibility" among foreign lenders and investors, that the government maintain its commitments to balance its budget.

"Investment partners now regard this as a litmus test of credibility," he said.

He conceded that poverty was still widespread in this country despite the economic growth and said that "growth should be more sustained and inclusive" to reach wider groups.

World Bank economists on Tuesday, also cited the Philippines' economic performance, forecasting GDP growth of 5.9 and 6.1 percent for 2008 and 2009. But they warned that the country's window of opportunity to sustain such growth would not remain open for long.

Filipinos should thank the president and her economic team for this :)

diz
April 3rd, 2008, 09:40 AM
maraming salamat president arroyo! more power to you!

youdamiren
April 4th, 2008, 04:09 AM
maraming salamat president arroyo! more power to you!

I second the motion!

wheel of steel
April 4th, 2008, 05:01 AM
:banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:

barukdok
April 5th, 2008, 05:47 AM
but how long will it last?

odyssey
April 5th, 2008, 03:27 PM
We are on the right direction to become a newly industrialized country.

We have just manufactured laptop and released our very own NEO laptop. We should start manufacturing environmentally-friendly and light-weighted electronic products such as digital camera, cell phones, gps, computers, LCD TV, and hybrid cars. We have a very efficient jeepney industry, why can't those manufacturers such as SARAO make a hybrid and enviromentally friendly car - Imagine the brand Sarao Sedan - di ba bagay.

Sarao Sedan and Sarao SUV - gawin nyo na....

flymordecai
April 5th, 2008, 06:50 PM
We are on the right direction to become a newly industrialized country.

We have just manufactured laptop and released our very own NEO laptop. We should start manufacturing environmentally-friendly and light-weighted electronic products such as digital camera, cell phones, gps, computers, LCD TV, and hybrid cars. We have a very efficient jeepney industry, why can't those manufacturers such as SARAO make a hybrid and enviromentally friendly car - Imagine the brand Sarao Sedan - di ba bagay.

Sarao Sedan and Sarao SUV - gawin nyo na....

The NEO laptop is just a rebadged Intel Netbook. As far as I know, it wasn't developed and designed in the Philippines. Link (http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/19/classmate-pc-hits-store-shelves-in-philippines-as-neo-explore-x1/)

Agreed that the Philippines need its homemade electronics and vehicles. But if we ever see it, it won't be for a long time.

NOVO ECIJANO
April 28th, 2008, 12:38 AM
http://http://www.gmanews.tv/story/90292/Pinoy-firm-develops-notebook-with-Intels-processor
Pinoy firm develops notebook with Intel’s processor
04/19/2008 | 03:07 AM

CEBU CITY, Philippines - It may sound trite but in this age of technology, Filipinos can now do what other people in more developed economies can, including manufacturing notebooks that are equally advanced as those of more popular global brands.

Filipino company Neo Manufacturing and Services Inc. launched in Cebu City yesterday its new products, which are targeted at different market segments.

“Our vision is to develop notebooks for every Filipino," said Ernel Esplanada, Neo area sales manager for the provinces. “We come up with notebooks that are priced according to the financial capabilities of Filipinos."

In a forum with members of the academe yesterday, Neo launched the Explore X1, a netbook (Internet-centric notebook) that is designed for children. Explore has a 512 memory, 30 gigabit hard disk drive, Intel 900 megahertz mobile processor and Wi-Fi (wireless fidelity), among others.

It can drop from a height of one meter without being destroyed and is spill-proof. At a suggested retail price of P16,999, it is Neo’s cheapest product yet.

In a press conference, Esplanada presented the latest of Neo’s Empriva series whose prices range from P36,000 to P51,000, depending on features and capabilities.

He also presented the Neo Basic, Tablet series and Elan, the first notebook to be powered by Intel’s 45 nanometer processor.

Wowie Wong of Intel Philippines assured that despite the capabilities of the 45 nanometer processor and the number of transistors it carries, it consumes less power than previous types.

A 45-nanometer processor holds 820 million transistors, which is the basic element of computing.

Wong said the Neo Elan is the first time for Intel to extend its latest architecture in entry level notebooks.

All of Neo’s latest notebooks have Microsoft Windows Vista (Home Premium) operating system. Explore uses Windows XP, Starter Edition.

Esplanada said Filipinos should be proud of Neo notebooks as it is assembled by Filipinos based in the Philippines.

While Neo is not as known as most global brands, he said that the components of its notebooks are made in China like all the other more known brands.

Elvi Suficiencia, executive vice president of MDR Microware Sales Inc., said Neo buys notebook components from one of the top five global makers.

“Neo is as good as the more known global brands. (Besides) any (notebook or computer) brand, which carries the names of Intel and Microsoft, is good," he said, adding that the two other companies (Intel and Microsoft) would not partner with a brand that is not reliable.

“Neo’s penetration in the Visayas and Mindanao, at entry level (meaning more affordable), is very good," he said.

He also said that since Neo’s notebooks are affordable, the company can be credited for bringing down the prices of global brands.

Considering the sales growth rates of desktop computers and notebooks, Suficiencia said the percentage of penetration of the two computer types will reach the same level by the end of this year.

In an interview, Esplanada told Sun.Star Cebu that Neo will open its own showroom and service center at the SM Northwaing.

He said Neo’s contractor will start building the interiors of the showroom as soon as SM has completed the development of the space allotted for the notebook manufacturer.

“We will display our various products there for people who want to have a feel of our notebooks. But we won’t sell anything there so as not to compete with our dealers," he said. - Sun.Star Cebu

barrera_marquez
April 28th, 2008, 02:11 AM
Barko at kotse nage-export na tayo. Nice parang Japan!

Pero I want the agricultural sector to remain along with the industrial sector para hindi na tayo magi-import ng mga raw materials na gagamitin sa production. Sa tingin ko kumpleto na tayo sa lupa kasi may Bataan Export Processing Zone, Clark, Subic, Tarlac, etc. na tayo. May matitira pang sandamukal na ektarya ng lupa para sa agricultural production.

nayki
April 28th, 2008, 07:12 AM
http://http://www.gmanews.tv/story/90292/Pinoy-firm-develops-notebook-with-Intels-processor
Pinoy firm develops notebook with Intel’s processor
04/19/2008 | 03:07 AM

CEBU CITY, Philippines - It may sound trite but in this age of technology, Filipinos can now do what other people in more developed economies can, including manufacturing notebooks that are equally advanced as those of more popular global brands.

Filipino company Neo Manufacturing and Services Inc. launched in Cebu City yesterday its new products, which are targeted at different market segments.



Kabibili ko lang ng notebook, kinonsider ko din itong NEO na isa sa mga option ko kasi mura siya and mas matataas ang specification compared sa mga known brands. Kaso nag alangan ako kasi bagong company pa lang siya tapos iisa pa lang service center na asa mega mall. Tapos wala akong kakilala na gumagamit ng NEO kaya wala ako mahanapan ng feedback though meron naman sa mga forums sa net. Kaya i ended buying Asus notebook na lang. Pero sana maging successfull ang Filipino company na ito para mag karoon na tayo ng homegrown Laptop/PC makers. Kasi dati inaasemble sa China ang NEO notebooks and the parts are coming from Taiwan.

bacolodchamp
April 28th, 2008, 07:41 AM
http://business.inquirer.net/money/topstories/view/20080402-127940/Philippines-no-longer-economic-laggard-of-SE-Asia----ADB

Philippines no longer economic laggard of SE Asia -- ADB

Agence France-Presse
04/02/2008

MANILA, Philippines -- The Philippines is no longer the laggard of Southeast Asia after posting high economic growth while keeping inflation under control, the Asian Development Bank (ADB) said Wednesday.

The 7.3 percent economic growth posted in 2007 showed the Philippines "is no longer the laggard (of Asia.) It is approaching the average (of economic growth) of the region as a whole," said Thomas Crouch, deputy director-general of the ADB.

However, he said Manila must not fritter away the gains by resorting to handing out broad subsidies and price controls amid pressures brought about by soaring food and energy prices.

The growth in 2007 was the highest in 31 years and surpassed the average 6.5 percent growth for Southeast Asia in that year.

Additionally, the growth came even while the government was shrinking the budget deficit to about 1.0 percent of gross domestic product (GDP), Crouch noted.

But he warned that assistance to the poor should be carefully targetted to the most disadvantaged sectors and cautioned against resorting to subsidies which might increase the deficit with only minimal help to the poor.

The Philippines has largely lagged behind most of its Southeast Asian neighbors with growth rates usually well below the region's average.

The Manila-based multilateral institution is forecasting the Philippine economy to grow 6.0 percent in 2008 and by 6.2 percent in 2009.

"The challenging external environment in 2008 will temper growth" all over Asia, he said, citing rising food and oil prices and the economic slowdown in the United States.

But he commended the government's economic management team as "competent, capable and committed," as he forecast that inflation in the Philippines would only have a "slight uptick" in 2008 while other countries in the region would see larger jumps.

He credited much of the success to the government's fiscal consolidation in recent years, saying it had started a "virtuous cycle" which had brought down interest rates and kept inflation low, further encouraging investment.

Among the main challenges ahead is how to spend more to spur growth and pull more people out of poverty while still maintaining the fiscal discipline to attain a balanced budget this year, Crouch told reporters.

Crouch conceded that there was growing pressure for the government to spend more on infrastructure and social services in order to sustain growth in the face of the economic slowdown abroad.

However he said that there was also the issue of "credibility" among foreign lenders and investors, that the government maintain its commitments to balance its budget.

"Investment partners now regard this as a litmus test of credibility," he said.

He conceded that poverty was still widespread in this country despite the economic growth and said that "growth should be more sustained and inclusive" to reach wider groups.

World Bank economists on Tuesday, also cited the Philippines' economic performance, forecasting GDP growth of 5.9 and 6.1 percent for 2008 and 2009. But they warned that the country's window of opportunity to sustain such growth would not remain open for long.

a slap to the face of the opposition...the president has done her share, may we expect the senate to do their share?

barrera_marquez
April 28th, 2008, 11:59 AM
Marunong pala ang Pilipino kailangan lang talaga natin na magkaroon ng maayos na management at hindi ng kung anu-anong putakan at bangayan.

JustHorace
April 28th, 2008, 07:31 PM
About this kind of stuff, most foreign entities do not include the Philippines in any stupid lineup of theirs. Like CNN, nako halos wala mang coverage sa Pilipinas.

The Philippines get more attention on Al Jazeera than all those other anglo news channels combined. Perhaps they're the only ones who give importance to our country's growing role globally, in economic and political terms. CNN and BBC downplay the emergence of the Eastern powers. It's obvious that they still want to portray the West as the most powerful political entity in this planet. As if that'll remain as that forever!

odyssey
April 28th, 2008, 08:07 PM
Dapat gumawa ang mga Pilipino ng sariling brands ng auto at electronic products na hindi lang high quality, dapat ergonomically and evironmental-friendly rin ang design. Pati ang marketing at customer service dapat professional at de-kalidad rin.

Tingnan nyo yung S-Korea, yumaman lang sila ng gumawa sila ng sarili nilang brands ng kotse at mga electronic products.

It's not too late para sa Pilipinas kasi yung designs ng mga produkto constantly evolve and change. Puede pa rin humabol yung Pilipinas - bakit yung SK, late na rin sila nagsimula pero ngayong nakiki-kumpetensya na sa Hapon at US.

Dapat simulan na yung pinoy-branded na kotse gaya ng Sarao Sedan at Sarao SUV. Pati na rin computer, digital camera & video, LCD TV (plasma screen doesn't have a good feedback). Yung Kelvinator na Refrigerator di ba Concepcion industry yung gumawa non.

Kailanga lang mag FOCUS sa QUALITY sa lahat ng aspeto. Dapat din maging professional, global, at updated yung design. And always look for the next big th

crappypants
April 28th, 2008, 09:51 PM
kailangan den ipatronize nang pinoy ang gawang pinoy. kahit bagong brand at hindi mas kilala bigyan ng chance. it's the only way to break the cycle. mahina ang pinoy tumangkilik sa sariling gawa. ang ibang asians ganyan sila kaya lumalakas domestic economy nila.

bacolodchamp
April 29th, 2008, 02:41 AM
kailangan den ipatronize nang pinoy ang gawang pinoy. kahit bagong brand at hindi mas kilala bigyan ng chance. it's the only way to break the cycle. mahina ang pinoy tumangkilik sa sariling gawa. ang ibang asians ganyan sila kaya lumalakas domestic economy nila.

that is correct. and i'm doing it right now. whenever i'm in the supermarket i look at the label first. i make sure its made in RP even if its a multinational company. i prefer buying products made by multinational companies who have manufacturing plants in the philippines than products made in other countries. but whenever possible i buy products made by homegrown companies.

barrera_marquez
April 29th, 2008, 02:51 AM
Nestle alam ko meron plantasyon ng kape rito kaya good news ito para sa mahilig sa Nescafe.

RonnieR
April 29th, 2008, 10:29 AM
that is correct. and i'm doing it right now. whenever i'm in the supermarket i look at the label first. i make sure its made in RP even if its a multinational company. i prefer buying products made by multinational companies who have manufacturing plants in the philippines than products made in other countries. but whenever possible i buy products made by homegrown companies.

Agree....most pinoys think that imported goods, even those candies that are made in China, are better than ours. It's a crazy mentality or just the lack of education?. I also do my share of buying pinoy goods or philippine made goods of foreign origin, thus preserving the pinoy workers. Unless, I have no choice, then buy the imported ones. Look at the South Koreans, Japanese, Thais, Indonesians, they just love buying their own goods.

barrera_marquez
April 29th, 2008, 11:34 AM
Naalala ko tuloy yung formalin sa candies na galing China yung White Rabbit.

jpdm
May 1st, 2008, 03:25 AM
Dapat gumawa ang mga Pilipino ng sariling brands ng auto at electronic products na hindi lang high quality, dapat ergonomically and evironmental-friendly rin ang design. Pati ang marketing at customer service dapat professional at de-kalidad rin.

Tingnan nyo yung S-Korea, yumaman lang sila ng gumawa sila ng sarili nilang brands ng kotse at mga electronic products.

It's not too late para sa Pilipinas kasi yung designs ng mga produkto constantly evolve and change. Puede pa rin humabol yung Pilipinas - bakit yung SK, late na rin sila nagsimula pero ngayong nakiki-kumpetensya na sa Hapon at US.

Dapat simulan na yung pinoy-branded na kotse gaya ng Sarao Sedan at Sarao SUV. Pati na rin computer, digital camera & video, LCD TV (plasma screen doesn't have a good feedback). Yung Kelvinator na Refrigerator di ba Concepcion industry yung gumawa non.

Kailanga lang mag FOCUS sa QUALITY sa lahat ng aspeto. Dapat din maging professional, global, at updated yung design. And always look for the next big th

definite agree with this. :cheers1:having world-class Pinoy industrial products such as vehicles and electronic products (kayang-kaya naman e!) will definitely earn us more respect and be truly called a newly industrialized country:cheers:

bacolodchamp
May 1st, 2008, 03:51 AM
definite agree with this. :cheers1:having world-class Pinoy industrial products such as vehicles and electronic products (kayang-kaya naman e!) will definitely earn us more respect and be truly called a newly industrialized country:cheers:

in korea, you don't see much of foreign made cars roaming around, all you see are hyundai, kia, etc. if we only follow what the japanese and the koreans are doing, maybe we'll not be far from being the next industrialized country in the world.

iloilocitykid
May 1st, 2008, 03:57 AM
^^ The thing is, we don't have our own cars, unless of course everyone rides jeepneys..hehe

We haven't even made our own engine that's purely Filipino...

I know if there'll be a car that's okay looking and at least efficient (esp on fuel), many Pinoys would buy that..

Colonel Burger
May 1st, 2008, 08:16 AM
^^ The thing is, we don't have our own cars, unless of course everyone rides jeepneys..hehe

We haven't even made our own engine that's purely Filipino...

I know if there'll be a car that's okay looking and at least efficient (esp on fuel), many Pinoys would buy that..

Buy a Ford Escape, Ford Focus, Mazda 3 and a Mazda Tribute.

They are made in the Philippines by Filipinos and we export them to Southeast Asia. The Marquee may not be Filipino but they are proudly pinoy made. =)

jpdm
May 1st, 2008, 12:35 PM
^^ The thing is, we don't have our own cars, unless of course everyone rides jeepneys..hehe

We haven't even made our own engine that's purely Filipino...

I know if there'll be a car that's okay looking and at least efficient (esp on fuel), many Pinoys would buy that..


...dont be fixated with cars...any vehicle that will highlight pinoy craftmanship will do...jeepney yup but...we must strive for a more refine one.....

about the engine, we almost made one...but it is easy for us Pinoys to do it...its just economics that prevents us...

...eventually in the near future..immediate future...:)

iloilocitykid
May 1st, 2008, 02:39 PM
Buy a Ford Escape, Ford Focus, Mazda 3 and a Mazda Tribute.

They are made in the Philippines by Filipinos and we export them to Southeast Asia. The Marquee may not be Filipino but they are proudly pinoy made. =)

Aray naku po! No offense..those brands are really not fuel efficient..
I hope a Pinoy will make those brand of cars more fuel efficient..:)

...dont be fixated with cars...any vehicle that will highlight pinoy craftmanship will do...jeepney yup but...we must strive for a more refine one.....

about the engine, we almost made one...but it is easy for us Pinoys to do it...its just economics that prevents us...

...eventually in the near future..immediate future...:)

Yep. I have faith we will..;)

kiretoce
May 1st, 2008, 03:40 PM
Buy a Ford Escape, Ford Focus, Mazda 3 and a Mazda Tribute.

They are made in the Philippines by Filipinos and we export them to Southeast Asia. The Marquee may not be Filipino but they are proudly pinoy made. =)

Mazdas are okay. But Ford? Hell, no!

Fix
Or
Repair
Daily

It's the most unreliable car I've driven! :ohno:

iloilocitykid
May 2nd, 2008, 02:45 AM
^^ Agree..

jpdm
May 2nd, 2008, 03:00 AM
^^ Agree..

Kahit yung bago tulad ng Focus?At kahit gawa sa Pinas?Ang Mazda kasi 30% owned by Ford. And they share some auto parts such as engines etc....

FerrariLover
May 2nd, 2008, 03:23 AM
From ABS-CBN News: May 2, 2008
Deutsche Bank: RP may have triggered spike in world rice prices

An international bank said the Philippines may have triggered the spike in the world prices of rice.

Deutsche Bank said economic experts had suspicions the spike in world prices might have been partly fueled by the Philippine government's aggressive and pre-announced buying during a time when key rice suppliers Thailand and Vietnam were curbing exports.

Since the Philippines was the world's biggest importer of rice its announcement had the effect of swinging market forces.

Deutsche Bank experts reassured the public though that while there is currently a supply and demand imbalance, the rice crisis would eventually pass. ANC


---- Reminds me of OPEC...hehehe....:banana:

crappypants
May 2nd, 2008, 03:35 AM
geez you would think China or India would be the biggest importer of rice.
it seems we import everything, from plates to electic fans.
are there really people in charge of our country or are they just pretending?..

great184
May 2nd, 2008, 03:57 AM
From ABS-CBN News: May 2, 2008
Deutsche Bank: RP may have triggered spike in world rice prices

An international bank said the Philippines may have triggered the spike in the world prices of rice.

Deutsche Bank said economic experts had suspicions the spike in world prices might have been partly fueled by the Philippine government's aggressive and pre-announced buying during a time when key rice suppliers Thailand and Vietnam were curbing exports.

Since the Philippines was the world's biggest importer of rice its announcement had the effect of swinging market forces.

Deutsche Bank experts reassured the public though that while there is currently a supply and demand imbalance, the rice crisis would eventually pass. ANC


---- Reminds me of OPEC...hehehe....:banana:

RP as a major player? But in that article its in a negative sense, so we shouldn't be proud of just any impact we create on the global stage. And we should be ashamed of being the largest rice importer because we are home to the International Rice Institute, and we trained Vietnam and other countries how how to get better yields, more efficient rice breeds, etc.

Let's be a global player in a positive note.

jpdm
May 2nd, 2008, 04:07 AM
^^ agree with this

Being a rice importer is an ultimate embarassment to an agricultural country with a UPLB, PhilRice and IRRI right in our territory. Ngiting aso ang Thailand our "good neighbor" na dating tinuruan nating magtanim ng palay.

read the papers today, Thailand will not sell rice to us. Kapal muks pa nung Economists ng U&AP na si bernardo Villegas when he was taunting nationalists about the need to be self-sufficient in rice. Isa sya sa promotor ng rice importation siguro.Sabihin kaya nya yan sa mga napila sa NFA rice at mga magsasaka ng Sumilao at ng buong bansa.....tingnan ko galing nya.

Dapat ipasara na agri dept ng UPLB, Philrice at IRRI kasi kaya lang nitong maturuan foreigner. pero kapwa pinoy hindi. :bash:

Dapat isesante na lahat ang empleyado sa DA, NFA at NIA kasi puro inutil sila.:bash:

Juan Pilgrim
May 2nd, 2008, 04:23 AM
:horse:geez you would think China or India would be the biggest importer of rice.
it seems we import everything, from plates to electic fans.
are there really people in charge of our country or are they just pretending?..

that is exactly what I thought, too: China and India with their combined population of more than 2.5 billion rice eaters must be the top 2 rice importer countries on this planet...

...and not the Republic of the Philippines with only 88 million or so rice eaters. (I don't think we can out eat the Indians/Chinese.):ohno:

But China and India (Thailand and Vietnam etc.) knew their priorities. With the guidance of their governments, they have been producing more than enough rice for their people that they can export whatever is in excess around the world.

But the government of the Republic of the Philippines thinks it is not important to grow our own rice when we can buy it from other countries at a cheaper price. (we can not blame them for that, can we?)

Things are going to change now for sure. With soaring prices and high demand for rice, planting rice will surely be fun (with or without La Nina or El Nino) and profitable.

It is alright to industrialize just don't neglect the other sectors of our economy--- like agriculture.



:horse:

crappypants
May 2nd, 2008, 04:56 AM
planting rice is always fun pa naman. :ohno:

jpdm
May 2nd, 2008, 05:08 AM
--It should go together industrialization and agricultural development. Just like the Taiwan model.

-Simple lang naman e. Mechanize rice production. Use more machines, ang dami. Yung sa Nueva Ecija, may nag-produce ng farm machine dun.Farmer-turned machine fabricator.

-More farm inputs using modern technology. Wag lang GMO.

-post harvest facilities imbes na ubusin ni politiko para papogi nya.

-limit importation. Puede naman e. Ang problema may COMMMISSION KASI E. MAY TONGPATS.

So industrialize and modernize agriculture to limit the outflow of foreign exchange from the country and more jobs and income for more Pinoys.

Pag puro import. importer na kumikita.

crappypants
May 2nd, 2008, 05:21 AM
Pag puro import. importer na kumikita.

and don't forget the smugglers

nayki
May 2nd, 2008, 05:33 AM
Di naman kasi ganon kalakihan ang lupain natin dito sa Pinas tapos malaking porsyento pa ng bukirin natin napupunta sa pataniman ng pinya, tabako, sibuyas, manga, niyog, mais, at kung ano ano pang high value crops. Dapat kasi bigas muna ang iprioritize na itanim ung sobrang lupa un ang ilagay sa high value crops. Halimbawa na lang iyong sibuyas sobrang laki ng matitipid natin kung iimport na lang natin un di naman siya sing importante ng bigas eh.

jpdm
May 2nd, 2008, 05:38 AM
^^
oo nga pala.

Kaya mahina sa toto lang negosyo sa Pinas sobrang dami ng walang trbaho.

Yung ad ni Gloria na economiya, kalokohan yun. asan ekonomiya natin? mula toothpick hanggang kotse imported.

Sino kumikita. Mga tongpats at commission-ners sa Customs.

Yung smuggler at importer na halos sila na lang kumikita di pa nagbabayad ng tamang tax yan. kasi they engage outright in smuggling or engaged in technical smuggling.....

-kaya yung ad ng gobyerno na Ekonomiya..dapat may dagdag...


EKONOMIYA...WASAK NA..PAKTAY NA TAO SA MAHAL NG BILIHIN AT KAWALAN NG MATINONG TRABAHO.....:bash:

RonnieR
May 2nd, 2008, 05:40 AM
and don't forget the smugglers

Agree, but I'm still looking forward to see even once in my lifetime, a smuggler who is put into death chamber! Who knows the next President is pro- death penalty..... di nakikinig sa CBCP

iloilocitykid
May 2nd, 2008, 06:31 AM
Kahit yung bago tulad ng Focus?At kahit gawa sa Pinas?Ang Mazda kasi 30% owned by Ford. And they share some auto parts such as engines etc....

Yes. IMO, Toyota, Sukuzi and Honda cars are quite more fuel efficient than Ford, GM or even Chrysler. Again, it's just my own observation. I don't want to dissuade anyone from buying these brands. :)

From ABS-CBN News: May 2, 2008
Deutsche Bank: RP may have triggered spike in world rice prices

An international bank said the Philippines may have triggered the spike in the world prices of rice.

Deutsche Bank said economic experts had suspicions the spike in world prices might have been partly fueled by the Philippine government's aggressive and pre-announced buying during a time when key rice suppliers Thailand and Vietnam were curbing exports.

Since the Philippines was the world's biggest importer of rice its announcement had the effect of swinging market forces.

Deutsche Bank experts reassured the public though that while there is currently a supply and demand imbalance, the rice crisis would eventually pass. ANC


---- Reminds me of OPEC...hehehe....:banana:

Actually, If I remember well, it was the president who got ecstatic about the rice conditions that caused panic among the masses. Maybe it was through over exposure in the media and overhyping the situation that this happened.

nahtoodrunk
May 4th, 2008, 10:01 AM
The President is a female, that answers half your question;)

i guess not anymore and never have been, because filipinos are born magalang, especially to the females...we value their expression and respect their ideologies...

and philippines too has been the leading country in southeast asia on empowering women according to the UN

dattebayo
May 4th, 2008, 10:06 AM
Mazdas are okay. But Ford? Hell, no!

Fix
Or
Repair
Daily

It's the most unreliable car I've driven! :ohno:

include Chevy

kevinb
May 4th, 2008, 01:10 PM
From ABS-CBN News: May 2, 2008
Deutsche Bank: RP may have triggered spike in world rice prices

An international bank said the Philippines may have triggered the spike in the world prices of rice.

Deutsche Bank said economic experts had suspicions the spike in world prices might have been partly fueled by the Philippine government's aggressive and pre-announced buying during a time when key rice suppliers Thailand and Vietnam were curbing exports.

Since the Philippines was the world's biggest importer of rice its announcement had the effect of swinging market forces.

Deutsche Bank experts reassured the public though that while there is currently a supply and demand imbalance, the rice crisis would eventually pass. ANC


---- Reminds me of OPEC...hehehe....:banana:

*sigh* I find it very ironic for IRRI to have been living on our lands if this is what the headlines read. The International Rice Research Institute, good lord. :ohno:

iloilocitykid
May 4th, 2008, 04:15 PM
It's been reported that within three years, the country will be self-sufficient in rice...yeah right, not with the current state of governance..

jpdm
May 4th, 2008, 04:42 PM
It's been reported that within three years, the country will be self-sufficient in rice...yeah right, not with the current state of governance..


Indeed. The government should be serious enough in bulding are capacity not only in food self-sufficiency but also in manufacturing.....

So that we can truly called a newly-industrialized country......

nahtoodrunk
May 5th, 2008, 08:07 AM
it's a different case sa china and india, marami nga silang tao pero ang laki-laki naman ng teritoryo nila for expanding agriculture, and i guess hindi ganoon ka rice-dependent ang mga intsik because they got noodles, sa movies na nakikita ko, 1 cup of rice lang usually ang kinakain nila, eh tayong mga pinoy, halos ubos isang plato puno ng rice..

federalist
May 5th, 2008, 09:33 AM
i dont believe that theres a rice shortage. the administration are just fooling the people, they made this issue for them to repay to the businessmen who funded their election campaigns.

Philippines are constant importer of rice from Vietnam and Thailand way back then.
so, bakit ngayon lang na declare na may rice shortage?

barrera_marquez
May 5th, 2008, 10:27 AM
Because Vietnam and Thailand also restricted their exports, at dahil na rin sa drought noong isang taon e nagkamanas-manas ang mga rice producing provinces sa anihan, medyo na-delay ang ani kasi.

Nakikita ko iyan kasi taga-Nueva Ecija ako, nakikita ko ang mga magsasaka ngayon na hirap na hirap umani ng palay. But to think Nueva Ecija has 5 cities, nakakapagtaka talaga na kung bakit ang hirap pa rin ng mga kalagayan nila. Malamang nauso na sa Nueva Ecija ang 5-6? Doesn't the government have a bank to help this farmers so that they will not rely anymore on 5-6, aba'y sako ang pinambabayad nila, mga 20 sako na may halagang P18,000!!!

federalist
May 5th, 2008, 10:32 AM
patawad kaibigan. hindi kasi namin ma feel dito sa Cebu ang rice shortage ngayon.
kaya pala dahil nahihirapan pala ang Vietnam and Thailand.

barrera_marquez
May 5th, 2008, 03:56 PM
it's okay, lahat naman tayo nahihirapan sa nagaganap na krisis sa bigas...

le Reine
May 5th, 2008, 04:03 PM
i dont believe that theres a rice shortage. the administration are just fooling the people, they made this issue for them to repay to the businessmen who funded their election campaigns.

Philippines are constant importer of rice from Vietnam and Thailand way back then.
so, bakit ngayon lang na declare na may rice shortage?And where did you get that news? If there's anyone who would declare a rice shortage, the government will be the last. I believe the government says price "crisis" rather than rice shortage. :lol:

kevinb
May 6th, 2008, 08:05 AM
It's been reported that within three years, the country will be self-sufficient in rice...yeah right, not with the current state of governance..

I agree. If there's really an ongoing rice shortage, rice sufficiency is almost next to impossible within the next three years or, if not, within the near future, say a little bit more than five years. Not unless the government acts fast on heavily improving our agricultural sector. But then again the government is focusing more on other industries, such as services, manufacturing and, especially, tourism. Just compare what the government is doing with these sectors compared to the agricultural one. Milya-milya 'yung layo. I guess it will take a longer time when a new country will topple down the Philippines as the world's top importer of rice.

Goku_25
May 6th, 2008, 08:13 AM
I am hoping for the Philippines na tayo'y magiging first world country next decade. Sana, huwag na tayung bumalik sa panahon ni Marcos!! Kaya wag nating botohin ang mga kandidato na potensyal silang maging kagaya ni Marcos, Tulad ni Panfilo Lacson.

kevinb
May 6th, 2008, 08:20 AM
^^ Having the first world status after the next decade could be a bit farfetched, especially with the slowdown of the economic growth this year. Last year, mataas siya, but considering GMA's plan to convert the Philippines into first world status after 2020, it still is slow, sluggish even. I've read in one of the country's major broadsheets that if GMA really wants the Philippines to achieve first world state by 2020, the country should constantly be at par with China's annual growth. But I'm not saying that I'm not happy with what we've achieved last year, I am actually. It just proves that even if the President isn't liked by much of the Filipino people, she does her job well, which is much, much more important than beign loved by all without achieving anything.

jpdm
May 6th, 2008, 08:48 AM
^^
Unless the government will fully support the agriculture, industrial sectors of our economy we can never become a First World nation!

Plus the government should fully implement agrarian reform and poverty eradication to put our economy in order...

Hindi puro publicity at press releases lang....

kevinb
May 6th, 2008, 08:56 AM
^^ I can't say that the Philippine government is puro pa-cute. At this point, the perfect mix of every technique that will address our country's concerns has not been perfected yet that's why some indutries are left behind, while other industries are currently being further utilized in order for its potential to drive the Philippine economy. The country is doing it step by step, that's why the idea of our country being a first world country by 2020 is still far, but not very far for impossibility to push it farther from us. Let's do it slowly but surely this time.

jpdm
May 6th, 2008, 09:23 AM
^^ I can't say that the Philippine government is puro pa-cute. At this point, the perfect mix of every technique that will address our country's concerns has not been perfected yet that's why some indutries are left behind, while other industries are currently being further utilized in order for its potential to drive the Philippine economy. The country is doing it step by step, that's why the idea of our country being a first world country by 2020 is still far, but not very far for impossibility to push it farther from us. Let's do it slowly but surely this time.

Sana nga....

Anyway, the government should start with modernizing agriculture and building our manufacturing capabilities...

The Buy Pinoy of the Fil-Chinese (how ironic. yung mga 100% pinoy bukang bibig o mukhang imported) is one sure step.....

crappypants
May 6th, 2008, 10:15 PM
there's nothing impossible. if we fix all the wrong things there shouldn't be a reason why we can't attain developed status.
actually sameold problems are hounding us for decades and nothing aggresive is being implemented.

kmartin
May 6th, 2008, 10:58 PM
it has long way to go to achieve newly industrializec country status.

jpdm
May 7th, 2008, 02:05 AM
^^

Hindi naman. basta focus lang...

iloilocitykid
May 7th, 2008, 02:11 AM
^^ We already are...we're between the fine line of Developed and Third World Countries...;) Here's the qualifications

NICs usually share some other common features, including:

*Increased social freedoms and civil rights.
~Agree, EDSA I - III!

*Strong Political Leaders
~Agree, GMA stood even until now despite here many corrupt and greedy scandals..;)

*A switch from agricultural to industrial economies, especially in the manufacturing sector.
~Agree, the service sector though has the biggest portion of the pie and the agricultural sector as the lowest.

*An increasingly open-market economy, allowing free trade with other nations in the world.
~Agree, Subic and Clark

*Large national corporations operating in several continents.
~Agree, San Miguel Corp., Jollibee Corp., ABS-CBN, etc

*Strong capital investment from foreign countries.
~Agree, Hanjin, etc...

*Political leadership in their area of influence.
~Agree, ASEAN pioneer..:)

barrera_marquez
May 7th, 2008, 07:50 AM
kung ako ang tatanungin, mas gusto kong maging industrialized ang bansa pero at the same time manatili ang agriculture sector para hindi tayo umasa sa importation ng mga raw materials para patakbuhin ang mga industriya natin.

iloilocitykid
May 7th, 2008, 09:10 AM
^^ So if we are to do that and achieve a good economy, then we overprice the products to as much as 10000% when we export them. hehe

barrera_marquez
May 7th, 2008, 10:08 AM
^^ So if we are to do that and achieve a good economy, then we overprice the products to as much as 10000% when we export them. hehe

hyperinflation yang sinasabi mo eh... sa atin hindi naman hyperinflation ang problema natin, hypercorruption.

iloilocitykid
May 7th, 2008, 11:43 AM
^^ Correct!

Manila-X
May 7th, 2008, 11:45 AM
^^ We already are...we're between the fine line of Developed and Third World Countries...;) Here's the qualifications

NICs usually share some other common features, including:

*Increased social freedoms and civil rights.
~Agree, EDSA I - III!

*Strong Political Leaders
~Agree, GMA stood even until now despite here many corrupt and greedy scandals..;)

*A switch from agricultural to industrial economies, especially in the manufacturing sector.
~Agree, the service sector though has the biggest portion of the pie and the agricultural sector as the lowest.

*An increasingly open-market economy, allowing free trade with other nations in the world.
~Agree, Subic and Clark

*Large national corporations operating in several continents.
~Agree, San Miguel Corp., Jollibee Corp., ABS-CBN, etc

*Strong capital investment from foreign countries.
~Agree, Hanjin, etc...

*Political leadership in their area of influence.
~Agree, ASEAN pioneer..:)

How about a modernized military. Its what The Philippines lack :(

iloilocitykid
May 7th, 2008, 05:22 PM
^^ IMO, we don't need to have too much flare on heavy weaponry such as tanks or fighter planes...for now. We just need to concentrate on destroying the rebellion or insurgency. Tanks or other gadgets aren't useful in situations like this. :)

Our special forces however have a good set of armaments. We have more matters to modernize other than the armed forces.

barrera_marquez
May 8th, 2008, 01:00 AM
^^ IMO, we don't need to have too much flare on heavy weaponry such as tanks or fighter planes...for now. We just need to concentrate on destroying the rebellion or insurgency. Tanks or other gadgets aren't useful in situations like this. :)

Our special forces however have a good set of armaments. We have more matters to modernize other than the armed forces.

pati corruption kailangang puksain!

ogiñi_ocram
May 11th, 2008, 10:59 AM
i am very positive on this........

rover3
May 13th, 2008, 12:16 AM
If the Catholic Church can be SHUT UP on their stance on birth control, AND the Filipinos have enough common sense to IGNORE and pay only lip service to this outdated institution --as the Catholic countries in Europe do, then the RP can hope to advance to an industrialzied country status. Otherwise, if its people do not have the common sense and the backbone to stand up to the Catholic Church, then it will always be a country in need. Simple as that.

jpdm
May 13th, 2008, 01:46 AM
If the Catholic Church can be SHUT UP on their stance on birth control, AND the Filipinos have enough common sense to IGNORE and pay only lip service to this outdated institution --as the Catholic countries in Europe do, then the RP can hope to advance to an industrialzied country status. Otherwise, if its people do not have the common sense and the backbone to stand up to the Catholic Church, then it will always be a country in need. Simple as that.

For me its not the CHurCH to blame but the political will of the government.

Anyway, I hope should contibue attracting real industrial value added manufacturing investments here and abroad to make us truly an industrialized country...

barrera_marquez
May 13th, 2008, 06:50 AM
there should be a clear line between the church and the state since the government is the one who could only directly manipulate everything in this country. This is not the Spanish Era guys and our government type is democrazy not frailocracy.

jpdm
May 13th, 2008, 11:17 AM
PGMA and his administration will blame everybody and everything (GMA blames the media for the rice crisis...:nuts:) except themselves went something went wrong in our country....:bash:

odyssey
May 19th, 2008, 05:25 AM
Go POSITIVE - Philippine Open Source Initiative !!!!

The Philippines has been pushing for Open Source Technology to lower the cost IT software and program in the country.

Cebu to host first worldwide Philippine Open Source Summit on June 23-24
By Willy Rodolfor III
Reporter
http://www.businessmirror.com.ph/0516&172008/economy06.html

THE Cebu Business Month (CBM) activity of the Cebu Chamber of Commerce and Industry (CCCI) next month will hold the first Philippine Open Source Summit at the Cebu International Convention Center.

Major stakeholders, experts and advocates of Open Source Technology across the world will gather in Cebu City on June 23 and 24 to discuss how the Open Source movement is changing the rules of the game for information and communications technology (ICT).

“Open source” refers to software or application whose users need no license to operate or use.

They will also “focus on the challenges that the Open Source model introduces into modern mainstream ICT corporations and business enterprises so as to effectively manage Open Source as an integral element in any long-term IT strategy,” a statement from CCCI read.

Top executives from such open source advocates such as Exist Global, Red Hat, Alfresco, Apache Software Foundation and Open Source Initiatives will lead the plenary discussions on June 23.

Breakout sessions will follow the next day with SugarCRM, ADempiere, Pentaho, Drupal, RoR, Eclipse, Maven, Tomcat/Jetty, MySQL.

The Philippine Open Source Summit 2008 is one of the major thrusts of the CBM for the year that is being held in collaboration with the Commission on Information and Communications Technology and in conjunction with the Department of Trade and Industry.

The provincial and city governments of Cebu have also adopted the summit as among their pioneering projects for 2008.

Recognizing that Open Source is one huge wave of the future in the field of ICT, the CCCI now turns its focus to bring together the world-renowned players of various global Open Source initiatives.

odyssey
May 19th, 2008, 01:32 PM
Pension fund urges Meralco to reduce rates by P2 a kwh
http://www.manilastandardtoday.com/?page=news1_may19_2008
By Christine F. Herrera

THE Government Service Insurance System said yesterday it did not have enough proxies to gain management control of power distributor Manila Electric Co., but the state pension fund vowed to sue the power firm should it refuse to lower its power rates and improve its efficiency.

GSIS lawyer Estrella Elamparo made the statement a day after the Saturday deadline for the registration of shareholder proxies ahead of the Meralco stockholders’ meeting set for May 27.

The GSIS wants to gain control of Meralco to force it to open its books. The pension fund claims that the distributor’s power rates are too high, saying it must reduce them and stop charging customers fees that it should be paying itself.

Elamparo said the GSIS did not seek proxies like the family of Oscar and Manolo Lopez, which controls a third of the company distributing electricity to Metro Manila and its suburbs.

“We heard that the Lopezes will vote the Meralco Pension Fund’s 2.2 percent in their favor,” Elamparo said.

“That makes them equal to the GSIS and other government entities’ total holdings in Meralco. They hold 33.4 percent of the shares, and we have 33 to 35 percent. So they are allotted four seats in the board and another four seats for the government.”

Elamparo said there were two vacant seats for “independent” directors, but one allegedly had been given to former Supreme Court Chief Justice Artemio Panganiban, who is also a director of the Lopez-owned First Philippine Holdings Co.

GSIS is seeking to replace Meralco’s corporate secretary with former Supreme Court Justice Hugo Gutierrez, but the special board meeting that was set for the purpose last week was postponed.

“We are confident during the stockholders’ meeting that majority of the shareholders would put pressure on the board by questioning mismanagement and inefficiency in Meralco operations,” Elamparo said.

She said GSIS president and general manager Winston Garcia, who represents the pension fund on Meralco’s board, would also try to persuade stockholders that reducing its rates by P2 per kilowatt hour would be good for the company.

“Lowering the rates by two pesos is a good start,” she said.

“Once inefficiency and mismanagement are corrected, Meralco could reduce the rates more and at the same time keep the company more profitable.”

Garcia would file criminal and civil charges against Meralco officials if they failed to be “as transparent as expected,” Elamparo said,

“The filing of the cases will depend on the turnout of the stockholders’ meeting,” she said, but added the GSIS welcomed the Lopez camp’s move to explain its position on power rates to the Cabinet in Panglao, Bohol, on Tuesday.

Outgoing Cabinet Secretary Ricardo Saludo said Meralco’s representatives had asked to explain its position to the Cabinet, but he was not sure if Meralco chairman Manolo Lopez would be present at the meeting.

“The government has already given its position: We want the power rates of Meralco to be lowered,” Saludo said.

“Now they are being given a chance to present their views to the government. So the Cabinet will listen when they make their presentation,”

Saludo said President Arroyo would also meet with other power distributors from the Visayas and Mindanao.

Eastern Samar Gov. Ben Evardone said the President would preside over an energy forum in Bohol after the Cabinet meeting.

“The President wants to find ways and means to bring down power rates in the Visayas and Mindanao because the omnibus petition only covers Meralco, which caters mostly to Luzon-based consumers,” he said.

“The President wants to make sure the people in the Visayas and Mindanao are not left out in the efforts to lower power rates.”

Camarines Sur Rep. Luis Villafuerte vowed to get tough on Meralco’s officials and the Lopez-owned First Gas Power Corp. over claims Meralco charges consumers P12.99 billion for “ghost deliveries” of electricity.

“Documents don’t lie, especially if they are filed before the Securities and Exchange Commission and the Energy Regulatory Commission and are official records of Meralco and First Gas,” Villafuerte said in a statement.

He had earlier accused Meralco of paying First Gas P12.99 billion from December 2000 to November 2001, although First Gas did not deliver electricity to Meralco. With Joyce Pangco Pañares and Macon Ramos-Araneta

stanleymalls
May 19th, 2008, 03:00 PM
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/2703/newlyindustrializedcouniu2.png

We are at par with the world...... :applause: :applause:

marchitecto
May 19th, 2008, 07:07 PM
anong ibig sabihin nung mapa?

jpdm
May 19th, 2008, 07:12 PM
anong ibig sabihin nung mapa?

Let me guess, they are all colored blue.....:nuts::lol:

Seriously, baka NICs.....

odyssey
May 19th, 2008, 07:30 PM
Open source group bats for RP tech self-reliance
http://www.mb.com.ph/INFO20080519124991.html
Melvin G. Calimag

A venture capital firm associated with software companies using open source technology has launched a national campaign that seeks to build the competence and confidence of the local workforce in addressing the country’s own technology requirements.
The project, dubbed "National Self-Reliance in Technology Initiative," is being spearheaded by Global Gateway Venture Capital (G2VC) and was unveiled during the recent general membership meeting of the Philippine Software Industry Association of the Philippines (PSIA) in Makati City.
Myra Siason, technology advocacy coordinator of G2VC, said during a presentation that it’s high time for the Philippines, one of the world’s top outsourcing destinations, "to awaken the Pinoy spirit" and promote a "sense of self" in the ICT sector.
Siason, a computer engineering graduate of the University of the Philippines and a certified Linux professional, argued that domestic resources should supply the country’s IT needs.
"The Pinoy should think for himself on the utilization of technology. We should start solving our own IT concerns with solutions that arise from ingenuity that is distinctly Pinoy," she said.
Siason explained that self-reliance in technology – through the use of open source software –- will help build the local IT economy and eliminate the need to import foreign technologies. "Building our technology in-house allows us to develop our own expertise. Moreover, we are able to showcase our products when we use them ourselves."
She said there’s no doubt that the local talent has the technical capability as evidenced by the increasing number of foreign BPO firms, including software development houses, that operate in key cities of the country. "We just need to divert some of that talent from going out to coming in."
Software guru Winston Damarillo, who has founded a number of software companies that are now flourishing here and abroad, said the advent of open source technology has allowed developing countries like the Philippines to compete in the global marketplace with minimal investments.
"It’s exciting to become a software developer nowadays because your work is 20 percent complete right off the bat because of open source technology. Anyone can basically compete with any company like Microsoft or IBM," he said.
Damarillo exhorted: "Let’s export technology so we won’t have to export our people."
The "National Self-Reliance in Technology Initiative," according to Siason, is still in its draft form and can be accessed at http://technology-self-reliance.wikispaces.com.

philippine_eagle
May 19th, 2008, 07:56 PM
The Philippines is already a newly industrialised country, albeit at the lower end of the stick, like India.

We can make developed nation status by the year 2030, but not 2020. This is our ambition and is/should be our motivation. Every citizen of this country should play a part, even if it means being an armchair general posting messages on a mostly positive forum like SSC.

Yes, we have endured countless and acute problems since independence 110 years ago. But for anyone to give up on the Philippines and say it is hopeless is really apathy of the worst kind. Our country has everything going for it. The thing is, we are endowed with a wealth of natural resources, so we might as well use it to its full potential.

A few things have been overlooked in recent years which is seldom seen in the mass media such as:

* The economy has been growing at a good pace
* Per capita income continues to grow
* Budget surplus forecast soon
* Increase in investments in recent times
* Better infrastructure

jpdm
May 20th, 2008, 03:00 AM
The Philippines is already a newly industrialised country, albeit at the lower end of the stick, like India.

We can make developed nation status by the year 2030, but not 2020. This is our ambition and is/should be our motivation. Every citizen of this country should play a part, even if it means being an armchair general posting messages on a mostly positive forum like SSC.

Yes, we have endured countless and acute problems since independence 110 years ago. But for anyone to give up on the Philippines and say it is hopeless is really apathy of the worst kind. Our country has everything going for it. The thing is, we are endowed with a wealth of natural resources, so we might as well use it to its full potential.

A few things have been overlooked in recent years which is seldom seen in the mass media such as:

* The economy has been growing at a good pace
* Per capita income continues to grow
* Budget surplus forecast soon
* Increase in investments in recent times
* Better infrastructure

But again, we have to hear the negatives so that we can these into positive...

I definite agree that we should work together to build a prosperous Philippines ...but I believe it can only be done if Pinoys will exhibit a deep sense of nationalism, with one national goal and objectives sans regionalistic tendencies...

Pinoys should move out from their provincial and parochial point of views and start working for the national interests...

The government on the other hand should strictly implement the laws of our land and stop violating these laws they sworn to obey and implement...

Pinoys should follow our laws....

Reduction of graft and corruption...

Pinoys should support local entrepreneurs and products...

Be responsible citizens

philippine_eagle
May 20th, 2008, 03:28 AM
But again, we have to hear the negatives so that we can such into positive...

I definite agree that we should work together to build a prosperous Philippines ...but I believe it can only be done if Pinoys will exhibit a deep sense of nationalism, with one national goal and objectives sans regionalistic tendencies...

Pinoys should move out from their provincial and parochial point of views and start working for the national interests...

The government on the other hand should strictly implement the laws of our land and stop violating these laws they sworn to obey and implement...

Pinoys should follow our laws....

Reduction of graft and corruption...

Pinoys should support local entrepreneurs and products...

Be responsible citizens


pumayag ako

Maxxclip
May 20th, 2008, 04:55 AM
hanggat hindi tayo natututong mag-recycle...ganun din kalabo natin makakamtan (makakamit) ang tunay na pagbabago.

Juan Pilgrim
May 20th, 2008, 03:53 PM
If the Catholic Church can be SHUT UP on their stance on birth control, AND the Filipinos have enough common sense to IGNORE and pay only lip service to this outdated institution --as the Catholic countries in Europe do, then the RP can hope to advance to an industrialzied country status. Otherwise, if its people do not have the common sense and the backbone to stand up to the Catholic Church, then it will always be a country in need. Simple as that.

I certainly agree that the CATHOLIC Church plays a huge factor in our development as a NATION, but I will not put all the weight on it.

THE REPUBLIC OF THE PHILIPPINES is still a DEMOCRACY, and that FREEDOM OF RELIGION is guaranteed in our CONSTITUTION.
"The 1987 Constitution of the Philippines declares: The separation of Church and State shall be inviolable. (Article II, Section 6), and, No law shall be made respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof. The free exercise and enjoyment of religious profession and worship, without discrimination or preference, shall forever be allowed. No religious test shall be required for the exercise of civil or political rights. (Article III, Section 5)."

I think it is our POLITICAL LEADERS who can not separate their politicking from the massive number of voting CATHOLIC FILIPINOS.
Iniisip ng mga POLITIKO natatalo sila sa botohan kung magagalit ang simbahan at ang mga parokiyano nito.

Dapat isispin nila ang Bayan Muna.

:horse:
J.P.

iloilocitykid
May 20th, 2008, 04:57 PM
What I really want the Philippines to achieve more than any agenda they have is Energy security. Find another energy source that is cheap, exportable and environment friendly. Other agendas will follow with the good effects...

spearhead
May 20th, 2008, 05:31 PM
hanggat hindi tayo natututong mag-recycle...ganun din kalabo natin makakamtan (makakamit) ang tunay na pagbabago.

Hanggang ngayon wala pa ring recycling plant sa pilipinas?!? Oh my goodness! :ohno:

I certainly agree that the CATHOLIC Church plays a huge factor in our development as a NATION, but I will not put all the weight on it.

THE REPUBLIC OF THE PHILIPPINES is still a DEMOCRACY, and that FREEDOM OF RELIGION is guaranteed in our CONSTITUTION.
"The 1987 Constitution of the Philippines declares: The separation of Church and State shall be inviolable. (Article II, Section 6), and, No law shall be made respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof. The free exercise and enjoyment of religious profession and worship, without discrimination or preference, shall forever be allowed. No religious test shall be required for the exercise of civil or political rights. (Article III, Section 5)."

I think it is our POLITICAL LEADERS who can not separate their politicking from the massive number of voting CATHOLIC FILIPINOS.
Iniisip ng mga POLITIKO natatalo sila sa botohan kung magagalit ang simbahan at ang mga parokiyano nito.

Dapat isispin nila ang Bayan Muna.

:horse:
J.P.

I do agree. Did anyone notice though that both GMA and Aquino have embraced the Catholic church too much? They just simply could not separate politics from the church!

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/2703/newlyindustrializedcouniu2.png

We are at par with the world...... :applause: :applause:

These are the newly industrialized countries or NIC. What am i really proud of is that we kindda overrun indonesia for the NIC status.

Other NIC countries
Each author set a list of countries accordingly to the methods or type of economic analysis. This sometimes results in a country being mentioned as NIC in a particular work, but that is rarely considered as such by the other authors. This is the case of nations such as Egypt, Pakistan, Indonesia, Russia and Jordan.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newly_industrialized_country

jpdm
May 21st, 2008, 02:23 AM
These are the newly industrialized countries or NIC. What am i really proud of is that we kindda overrun indonesia for the NIC status. url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newly_industrialized_country[/url]

Indonesia is a NIC. Her economy is better that ours...As an example they always enjoy trade surpluses in contrast with our trade deficits...

..They have a strong industrial base (Suzuki APV is made in Indonesia)unlike us...

..We are a NIC in name not in the real sense....

...But then again...we can be a strong NIC...if we work together as one nation with our national interests our top priorities (i.e. support Pinoy industries, entrepreneurs, products and our human and natural resources)

...protect also our environment....

hiiamdib
May 21st, 2008, 03:43 AM
Indonesia is a NIC. Her economy is better that ours...As an example they always enjoy trade surpluses in contrast with our trade deficits...

..They have a strong industrial base (Suzuki APV is made in Indonesia)unlike us...

..We are a NIC in name not in the real sense....

...But then again...we can be a strong NIC...if we work together as one nation with our national interests our top priorities (i.e. support Pinoy industries, entrepreneurs, products and our human and natural resources)

...protect also our environment....

payag ako

le Reine
May 21st, 2008, 03:44 AM
Indonesia is a NIC. Her economy is better that ours...As an example they always enjoy trade surpluses in contrast with our trade deficits...

..They have a strong industrial base (Suzuki APV is made in Indonesia)unlike us...

..We are a NIC in name not in the real sense....

...But then again...we can be a strong NIC...if we work together as one nation with our national interests our top priorities (i.e. support Pinoy industries, entrepreneurs, products and our human and natural resources)

...protect also our environment....is that the only measurement of NIC status? Actually, since we became independent we are always in trade deficits except in some years like 1973, 1996, etc.

And BTw, those NIC status did not come from the government. They came from reputable international economists and institutions

jpdm
May 21st, 2008, 03:56 AM
is that the only measurement of NIC status? Actually, since we became independent we are always in trade deficits except in some years like 1973, 1996, etc.

you should have highlighted the "strong industrial base unlike ours" not the trade deficits....

anyway,

NIC status incorporates alot of meaning....it can be in terms of the level of industrialization of a particular country...

..in can be in terms of GDP/GNI/NI....

..in terms of the percentage GDP/GNI derived from the industrial sector

..financial resources..

...percentage of manufactured vs. agricultural exports...

...BOP..

...GIR..

trade deficits somehow is a gauge of the capability of the country to produce goods and/or the state of its GIR/BOP/current account. These in turn are gauges of the strength of our currency vis-a-vis with other currencies...

Trade deficits tend to limit our chances to produce more foreign exchange for our economy...(sans OFW remittances and other services i.e. remittances of Filipino Multinational companies like San MIguel, Jollibee and URC)

...which the government use as a gauge in say computing the amount of money that can be use to buy imports such as oil.....

le Reine
May 21st, 2008, 04:05 AM
you should have highlighted the "strong industrial base unlike ours" not the trade deficits....
anyway,
NIC status incorporates alot of meaning....it can be in terms of the level of industrialization of a particular country...
..in can be in terms of GDP/GNI/NI....
..in terms of the percentage GDP/GNI derived from the industrial sector
..financial resources..
...percentage of manufactured vs. agricultural exports...
...BOP..
...GIR..
trade deficits somehow is a gauge of the capability of the country to produce goods and/or the state of its GIR/BOP/current account. These in turn are gauges of the strength of our currency vis-a-vis with other currencies...

Trade deficits tend to limit our chances to produce more foreign exchange for our economy...(sans OFW remittances and other services i.e. remittances of Filipino Multinational companies like San MIguel, Jollibee and URC)

...which the government use as a gauge in say computing the amount of money that can be use to buy imports such as oil.....strong, I don't know. But the clear reason for these NIC status is only to determine the significant sector that contributes to economic growth. In the Philippines, agriculture (13%) is the least while services (54%) and industry (31%) have a larger share, which means that the Philippines is no longer agricultural but rather service and industry oriented. And the mere fact that most of our exports our electronics and not cash crops means that we're just like our neighbors. Well, infairness to Indonesia, they do produce a lot of manufactured goods compared to us.

jpdm
May 21st, 2008, 05:09 AM
strong, I don't know. But the clear reason for these NIC status is only to determine the significant sector that contributes to economic growth. In the Philippines, agriculture (13%) is the least while services (54%) and industry (31%) have a larger share, which means that the Philippines is no longer agricultural but rather service and industry oriented. And the mere fact that most of our exports our electronics and not cash crops means that we're just like our neighbors. Well, infairness to Indonesia, they do produce a lot of manufactured goods compared to us.

Yup, but our exports depend mostly on imported parts..... that explains the trade deficits....i.e. semicon exports are made of imported wafer from Taiwan...local content is labor only. So we just assemble..

But im hoping, with the local entrepreneurs leading the way, of course with the help of foreign investors we can put more local content to our exports and help integrate our industries in the Philippines specifically the strategic oil, petrochemical, steel, automotive and electronic sector.....

Agriculture should also be modernized...

kevinb
May 21st, 2008, 02:24 PM
Yup, but our exports depend mostly on imported parts..... that explains the trade deficits....i.e. semicon exports are made of imported wafer from Taiwan...local content is labor only. So we just assemble..

It is still assembled here that's why we earn and, in turn, will show up in the break down of our industries.

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/2703/newlyindustrializedcouniu2.png

We are at par with the world...... :applause: :applause:

The map looks nice. Really nice. Specailly knowing what this map is for. :)

nahtoodrunk
May 21st, 2008, 05:31 PM
^^ so what map is this for?

iloilocitykid
May 21st, 2008, 05:58 PM
^^ It shows (the blue shaded areas) the NICs of the world. 30 years ago, only four would've fit in that area: Taiwan, SoKor, Hong Kong and Singapore.

nahtoodrunk
May 21st, 2008, 07:23 PM
im proud and sad about it...'cause farming now, isn't really an option to our new generation...thanks iloilocitykid

odyssey
May 21st, 2008, 07:34 PM
Wanted: More homegrown patents
http://www.bworld.com.ph/BW052208/content.php?id=004

LOCAL PATENT applications have to increase if the Philippines is to boost its image abroad as a country capable of technological innovation.

Filipino innovation has to be recognized and protected if the country is to grow. — Jonathan L. Cellona
More patent filings, which indicate sufficient knowledge and efficient enforcement of intellectual property rights (IPR), could also increase the country’s chances of being removed from a United States watchlist of IPR violators, officials yesterday said.

"Experiences of countries show that patent applications provide a good indicator of a country’s technological innovation capacity and performance," said Adrian Cristobal, Jr., director general of the Intellectual Property Office of the Philippines, at the 1st National Conference on Intellectual Property and Technology Commercialization.

Citing the World Economic Forum’s 2007-2008 Global Competitiveness Report, Mr. Cristobal said the Philippines was in the bottom half, or 71st out of 131 countries, in terms of technological readiness.
Southeast Asian neighbors Malaysia and Thailand were 21st and 28th while Singapore, Japan, South Korea, and Hong Kong ranked 7th, 8th, 11th and 12th, respectively.
The same report also placed the Philippines in 79th spot in terms of innovation, behind Singapore (9th), Malaysia (21st), Indonesia (37th), and Thailand (33rd).
"The Philippines has a lot of catching up to do," Mr. Cristobal said.
Government data, he said, also show that 97% of the patents applied for and granted last year belonged to foreign applicants. The rest went to Filipinos.
From 1948 to 2006, only 21 patents were granted to universities, and research and development institutes (RDI).
Factors that hinder patenting, he said, in the country include the lack of knowledge and understanding of the IP system, low research and development (R&D) investments, as well as lack of incentives.
"The situation must change," Mr. Cristobal said.
Science Undersecretary and University of the Philippines Professor Graciano P. Yumul, Jr., however, said the lack of R&D funding awareness was the issue.

"[W]e have more than P2.6 billion in available funds for R&D. But some universities and RDIs don’t know where to source this money," he said.
Jared Nyagua, senior program officer of the World Intellectual Property Office, said the challenge for the Philippines was that of IP education. — Bernardette S. Sto. Domingo



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Software firm allots P134M for expansion

CEBU-BASED software firm Morphlabs, Inc. may spend between P134.2 million and P173.3 million to finance the global expansion of its information and technology services this year.
In a report to the Securities and Exchange Commission, the company said the amount would come from net proceeds of its initial public offering (IPO) this year. It seeks to get P419.3 million to P541.5 million from the sale of 99.4 million common shares worth P4.50 to P5.80 apiece. Morphlabs markets Web-based and "software as a service" applications — software solutions delivered to clients on a subscription basis over the Internet. — LNPL

jpdm
May 22nd, 2008, 02:20 AM
more local manufacturing industries...

iloilocitykid
May 22nd, 2008, 08:44 AM
im proud and sad about it...'cause farming now, isn't really an option to our new generation...thanks iloilocitykid

More industrial establishments but of course we still need the agricultural sector. See what happened during the rice crisis. It happened because people converted agri land into subdivisions, mostly of empty lots..sighs..

The government needs to make a stronger zoning of agri lands..

nahtoodrunk
May 22nd, 2008, 05:14 PM
my history teacher taught us that the agricultural sector is the backbone of the country, and in my head i said 'yeah yeah whatever', now after seeing the almost-happened rice-crisis in our country it was till then that i believed it...

our agricultural industry must also keep up with the industrialization

iloilocitykid
May 22nd, 2008, 05:36 PM
^^ :okay:

OtAkAw
May 22nd, 2008, 05:59 PM
my history teacher taught us that the agricultural sector is the backbone of the country, and in my head i said 'yeah yeah whatever', now after seeing the almost-happened rice-crisis in our country it was till then that i believed it...

our agricultural industry must also keep up with the industrialization

It must be economics. I also remember my teacher telling us that. That agriculture is the foundation of a modernized and industrialized economy. I think at that time I thought that it was all just crap. :lol:

nahtoodrunk
May 22nd, 2008, 06:15 PM
^^ history in my last year in high school is also economics... we all thought it was crap 'till it almost left us all hungry

stanleymalls
May 22nd, 2008, 06:17 PM
But again, we have to hear the negatives so that we can these into positive...

I definite agree that we should work together to build a prosperous Philippines ...but I believe it can only be done if Pinoys will exhibit a deep sense of nationalism, with one national goal and objectives sans regionalistic tendencies...

Pinoys should move out from their provincial and parochial point of views and start working for the national interests...

The government on the other hand should strictly implement the laws of our land and stop violating these laws they sworn to obey and implement...

Pinoys should follow our laws....

Reduction of graft and corruption...

Pinoys should support local entrepreneurs and products...

Be responsible citizens

^^^^ I Agree. Pero parang di mo maiaalis sa mga kukote ng ilan nating mga kababayan yung Colonial Mentality. Gusto laging mura na mukhang mamahalin. Gusto laging japeyk. Gusto laging nakikiuso, di naman bagay. Bago nila maresolve yung problema sa gov't system natin e nasa kahon an tayo. I mean if i were a celeb, i would really endorse Philippine-made products. May itinuro kasi sa amin na kapag bumili ka ng isang product na Gawang Pinoy, you have almost created 1000 jobs. Basta kahit anong product na made in the phils. o look at this: Kapag hindi naibenta ng isang company ang product na made in other countries, mapipilitan sila (sana) na gumawa ng sariling facility with also a different market, sa ayaw o gusto nila. And that would create jobs for the locals. Maganda naman ang mga products na gawang pinoy ah. Beer(SMB), plasticwares(orocan), clothing(bench), technologies (Epson Printers, PC-Cilin), shoes(MSE), all-around products(Unilever, Colgate-Palmolive, Lamoiyan(Hapee TP))

Buy Filipino.

Wah! :lol: :lol:

jpdm
May 23rd, 2008, 04:28 PM
^^

amen to this!!:cheers:

3cr
May 24th, 2008, 12:08 AM
RP needs 159 years to become 1st World
By Cai U. Ordinario
http://www.businessmirror.com.ph/0523&242008/banking01.html

IF the Philippines grows at its highest gross domestic product (GDP) growth during the past 10 years, it will take 159 years before it catches up with the growth achieved by member-countries of the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD).

This is part of the findings of the final report of the Commission on Growth and Development, titled, “Growth Report: Strategies for Sustained Growth and Inclusive Development.” The commission is cofunded by the World Bank, the William and Flora Hewlett Foundation and the governments of Australia, Sweden, the Netherlands and United Kingdom.

“Growth is not an end in itself. But it makes it possible to achieve other important objectives of individuals and societies. It can spare people, en masse from poverty and drudgery. Nothing else ever has. It also creates the resources to support health care, education and the other Millennium Development Goals to which the world has committed itself. In short, we take the view that growth is a necessary, if not sufficient, condition for broader development, enlarging the scope for individuals to be productive and creative,” the report noted.

The report also sought to describe the differences in the economic performance of developing countries by estimating the growth rate it would need to achieve to catch up with industrialized countries at a given date, in this case, 2050 and 2100.

In the report, the commission said that using data from 1996 to 2006, the country only grew by a maximum of 4.3 percent and an average of 2.2 percent. To catch up with OECD countries using this data, the commission said the Philippines needs 159 years to become fully industrialized.

However, if the country wants to catch up by 2050, it will need sustained growth of 6.5 percent; and to catch up by 2100, the country needs a GDP of 4.1 percent.

“Because industrialized countries’ secular growth rate is about 2 percent per capita, developing countries need to grow at much higher rates to catch up,” the report stated.

“Many countries have an average per capita growth rate for the decade well below the OECD secular per capita growth rate, implying that they would never catch up at such rates. On the other hand, [data show that] all countries grew at a rate above 2 percent in at least one year. Using this rate renders the calculation mathematically feasible, but its economic meaning needs to be interpreted carefully,” the report warned.

Meanwhile, since 1960, the report said only six of the 25 largest developing countries in the world have grown faster than 3 percent in terms of per capita while 10 had growth rates below 2 percent.

This, the report stressed, implied that many developing countries like the Philippines have fallen farther behind industrialized countries’ incomes.

The Philippines’ real GDP in 2006 was $99 billion, which contributed 1.2 percent to the total real GDP of developing countries in 2006.

The country’s real compound annual GDP growth rate from 1980 to 2006 was 2.9 percent, while per capita GDP grew by 0.7 percent. On the other hand, the report said, the Philippines’ real GDP from 1960 to 2006 grew by 4 percent while per capita GDP grew by 1.4 percent.

“Growth strategies that rely exclusively on domestic demand eventually reach their limits. The home market is usually too small to sustain growth for long, and it does not give an economy the same freedom to specialize in whatever it is best at producing,” the report stated.

“Catch-up growth is also made possible by an abundant labor supply. As the economy expands and branches out, new ventures draw underemployed workers out of traditional agriculture into more productive work in the cities. Resources, especially labor, must be mobile. No country has industrialized without also urbanizing, however chaotically,” it added.

The report also emphasized the need for a strong leadership and effective government to attain economic growth. The report said “an increasingly capable, credible and committed government” is important, particularly in achieving catch-up growth.

The commission said policymakers need to choose a growth strategy, communicate their goals to the public and convince people that the future rewards are worth the effort, thrift and economic upheaval.

“[Policymakers] will succeed only if their promises are credible and inclusive, reassuring people that they or their children will enjoy their full share of the fruits of growth,” the report stated.

The report also highlighted the need for impressive rates in public investment for infrastructure, education and health, especially when attaining rapid economic growth.

Investments for these sectors pave the way for new industries to emerge and raise the return to any private venture that benefits from healthy, educated workers, passable roads and reliable electricity.

“Growth entails a structural transformation of the economy, from agriculture to manufacturing, from a rural work force to an urban one. This transformation is the result of competitive pressure. Governments committed to growth must therefore liberalize product markets, allowing new, more productive firms to enter and obsolete firms to exit. They must also create room to maneuver in the labor market, so that new industries can quickly create jobs and workers can move freely to fill them,” the commission stressed.

Launched in April 2006, the Commission on Growth and Development brings together 21 leading practitioners from the government, business and the policymaking arenas, mostly from the developing world. The commission is chaired by Nobel Laureate Michael Spence, former dean of the Stanford Graduate Business School; Danny Leipziger, vice president of the World Bank, is the commission’s vice-chairman.

Over a period of two years the commission was tasked to seek to gather the best understanding there is about the policies and strategies that underlie rapid and sustained economic growth and poverty reduction. The commission’s audience is the leaders of developing countries.

spearhead
May 24th, 2008, 07:28 AM
RP needs 159 years to become 1st World
By Cai U. Ordinario
http://www.businessmirror.com.ph/0523&242008/banking01.html

IF the Philippines grows at its highest gross domestic product (GDP) growth during the past 10 years, it will take 159 years before it catches up with the growth achieved by member-countries of the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD).

This is part of the findings of the final report of the Commission on Growth and Development, titled, “Growth Report: Strategies for Sustained Growth and Inclusive Development.” The commission is cofunded by the World Bank, the William and Flora Hewlett Foundation and the governments of Australia, Sweden, the Netherlands and United Kingdom.

“Growth is not an end in itself. But it makes it possible to achieve other important objectives of individuals and societies. It can spare people, en masse from poverty and drudgery. Nothing else ever has. It also creates the resources to support health care, education and the other Millennium Development Goals to which the world has committed itself. In short, we take the view that growth is a necessary, if not sufficient, condition for broader development, enlarging the scope for individuals to be productive and creative,” the report noted.

The report also sought to describe the differences in the economic performance of developing countries by estimating the growth rate it would need to achieve to catch up with industrialized countries at a given date, in this case, 2050 and 2100.

In the report, the commission said that using data from 1996 to 2006, the country only grew by a maximum of 4.3 percent and an average of 2.2 percent. To catch up with OECD countries using this data, the commission said the Philippines needs 159 years to become fully industrialized.

However, if the country wants to catch up by 2050, it will need sustained growth of 6.5 percent; and to catch up by 2100, the country needs a GDP of 4.1 percent.

“Because industrialized countries’ secular growth rate is about 2 percent per capita, developing countries need to grow at much higher rates to catch up,” the report stated.

“Many countries have an average per capita growth rate for the decade well below the OECD secular per capita growth rate, implying that they would never catch up at such rates. On the other hand, [data show that] all countries grew at a rate above 2 percent in at least one year. Using this rate renders the calculation mathematically feasible, but its economic meaning needs to be interpreted carefully,” the report warned.

Meanwhile, since 1960, the report said only six of the 25 largest developing countries in the world have grown faster than 3 percent in terms of per capita while 10 had growth rates below 2 percent.

This, the report stressed, implied that many developing countries like the Philippines have fallen farther behind industrialized countries’ incomes.

The Philippines’ real GDP in 2006 was $99 billion, which contributed 1.2 percent to the total real GDP of developing countries in 2006.

The country’s real compound annual GDP growth rate from 1980 to 2006 was 2.9 percent, while per capita GDP grew by 0.7 percent. On the other hand, the report said, the Philippines’ real GDP from 1960 to 2006 grew by 4 percent while per capita GDP grew by 1.4 percent.

“Growth strategies that rely exclusively on domestic demand eventually reach their limits. The home market is usually too small to sustain growth for long, and it does not give an economy the same freedom to specialize in whatever it is best at producing,” the report stated.

“Catch-up growth is also made possible by an abundant labor supply. As the economy expands and branches out, new ventures draw underemployed workers out of traditional agriculture into more productive work in the cities. Resources, especially labor, must be mobile. No country has industrialized without also urbanizing, however chaotically,” it added.

The report also emphasized the need for a strong leadership and effective government to attain economic growth. The report said “an increasingly capable, credible and committed government” is important, particularly in achieving catch-up growth.

The commission said policymakers need to choose a growth strategy, communicate their goals to the public and convince people that the future rewards are worth the effort, thrift and economic upheaval.

“[Policymakers] will succeed only if their promises are credible and inclusive, reassuring people that they or their children will enjoy their full share of the fruits of growth,” the report stated.

The report also highlighted the need for impressive rates in public investment for infrastructure, education and health, especially when attaining rapid economic growth.

Investments for these sectors pave the way for new industries to emerge and raise the return to any private venture that benefits from healthy, educated workers, passable roads and reliable electricity.

“Growth entails a structural transformation of the economy, from agriculture to manufacturing, from a rural work force to an urban one. This transformation is the result of competitive pressure. Governments committed to growth must therefore liberalize product markets, allowing new, more productive firms to enter and obsolete firms to exit. They must also create room to maneuver in the labor market, so that new industries can quickly create jobs and workers can move freely to fill them,” the commission stressed.

Launched in April 2006, the Commission on Growth and Development brings together 21 leading practitioners from the government, business and the policymaking arenas, mostly from the developing world. The commission is chaired by Nobel Laureate Michael Spence, former dean of the Stanford Graduate Business School; Danny Leipziger, vice president of the World Bank, is the commission’s vice-chairman.

Over a period of two years the commission was tasked to seek to gather the best understanding there is about the policies and strategies that underlie rapid and sustained economic growth and poverty reduction. The commission’s audience is the leaders of developing countries.

First of all, to be a 1st World nation means to be a developed country, as in nationwide development.

Its not really ONLY about the growth percentage of our economy, but its ALSO the way how we run our government and how we supposed to distribute its wealth fairly across the nation to develop its respective regions, provinces, or state, for w/c our country have failed to do so in the last 50 yrs. Even though our country is composed of 3 larger islands that is surrouunded by thousand more smaller islets, and is about the same size of Japan and UK, or the state of indiana (USA), its not supposed to be that hard to develop ours, and the rest will take care of itself like the GDP/per capita income of every filipinos.

If we only learned the way how our asian neighbors ran their governments effectively, and how they heavily invested on their self-reliance programs in agriculture, heavy industries, & manufacturing, like what SoKor, Taiwan, Japan, & China did, we could have been in an entirely different situation today. Who knows we may have been exporting cars, ships, rice, appliances, and other electronic products by now.

Its not too late yet, we still have chances in mining & tourism industries to help our economy, and at the same time, we should have a better governance and system to better promote the nationwide development and a fair distribution of our nation's wealth/revenues within 20 yrs from now.

spearhead
May 24th, 2008, 07:41 AM
Indonesia is a NIC. Her economy is better that ours...As an example they always enjoy trade surpluses in contrast with our trade deficits...

..They have a strong industrial base (Suzuki APV is made in Indonesia)unlike us...

..We are a NIC in name not in the real sense....

...But then again...we can be a strong NIC...if we work together as one nation with our national interests our top priorities (i.e. support Pinoy industries, entrepreneurs, products and our human and natural resources)

...protect also our environment....


That was not the way how the professionals measured a country to give them the NIC status. Its not because indonesia has a bigger economy output than ours that doesn't mean they were granted w/ the NIC status. You should check the link again and read.

nahtoodrunk
May 24th, 2008, 08:27 AM
RP needs 159 years to become 1st World
By Cai U. Ordinario
http://www.businessmirror.com.ph/0523&242008/banking01.html

IF the Philippines grows at its highest gross domestic product (GDP) growth during the past 10 years, it will take 159 years before it catches up with the growth achieved by member-countries of the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD).

This is part of the findings of the final report of the Commission on Growth and Development, titled, “Growth Report: Strategies for Sustained Growth and Inclusive Development.” The commission is cofunded by the World Bank, the William and Flora Hewlett Foundation and the governments of Australia, Sweden, the Netherlands and United Kingdom.

“Growth is not an end in itself. But it makes it possible to achieve other important objectives of individuals and societies. It can spare people, en masse from poverty and drudgery. Nothing else ever has. It also creates the resources to support health care, education and the other Millennium Development Goals to which the world has committed itself. In short, we take the view that growth is a necessary, if not sufficient, condition for broader development, enlarging the scope for individuals to be productive and creative,” the report noted.

The report also sought to describe the differences in the economic performance of developing countries by estimating the growth rate it would need to achieve to catch up with industrialized countries at a given date, in this case, 2050 and 2100.

In the report, the commission said that using data from 1996 to 2006, the country only grew by a maximum of 4.3 percent and an average of 2.2 percent. To catch up with OECD countries using this data, the commission said the Philippines needs 159 years to become fully industrialized.

However, if the country wants to catch up by 2050, it will need sustained growth of 6.5 percent; and to catch up by 2100, the country needs a GDP of 4.1 percent.

“Because industrialized countries’ secular growth rate is about 2 percent per capita, developing countries need to grow at much higher rates to catch up,” the report stated.

“Many countries have an average per capita growth rate for the decade well below the OECD secular per capita growth rate, implying that they would never catch up at such rates. On the other hand, [data show that] all countries grew at a rate above 2 percent in at least one year. Using this rate renders the calculation mathematically feasible, but its economic meaning needs to be interpreted carefully,” the report warned.

Meanwhile, since 1960, the report said only six of the 25 largest developing countries in the world have grown faster than 3 percent in terms of per capita while 10 had growth rates below 2 percent.

This, the report stressed, implied that many developing countries like the Philippines have fallen farther behind industrialized countries’ incomes.

The Philippines’ real GDP in 2006 was $99 billion, which contributed 1.2 percent to the total real GDP of developing countries in 2006.

The country’s real compound annual GDP growth rate from 1980 to 2006 was 2.9 percent, while per capita GDP grew by 0.7 percent. On the other hand, the report said, the Philippines’ real GDP from 1960 to 2006 grew by 4 percent while per capita GDP grew by 1.4 percent.

“Growth strategies that rely exclusively on domestic demand eventually reach their limits. The home market is usually too small to sustain growth for long, and it does not give an economy the same freedom to specialize in whatever it is best at producing,” the report stated.

“Catch-up growth is also made possible by an abundant labor supply. As the economy expands and branches out, new ventures draw underemployed workers out of traditional agriculture into more productive work in the cities. Resources, especially labor, must be mobile. No country has industrialized without also urbanizing, however chaotically,” it added.

The report also emphasized the need for a strong leadership and effective government to attain economic growth. The report said “an increasingly capable, credible and committed government” is important, particularly in achieving catch-up growth.

The commission said policymakers need to choose a growth strategy, communicate their goals to the public and convince people that the future rewards are worth the effort, thrift and economic upheaval.

“[Policymakers] will succeed only if their promises are credible and inclusive, reassuring people that they or their children will enjoy their full share of the fruits of growth,” the report stated.

The report also highlighted the need for impressive rates in public investment for infrastructure, education and health, especially when attaining rapid economic growth.

Investments for these sectors pave the way for new industries to emerge and raise the return to any private venture that benefits from healthy, educated workers, passable roads and reliable electricity.

“Growth entails a structural transformation of the economy, from agriculture to manufacturing, from a rural work force to an urban one. This transformation is the result of competitive pressure. Governments committed to growth must therefore liberalize product markets, allowing new, more productive firms to enter and obsolete firms to exit. They must also create room to maneuver in the labor market, so that new industries can quickly create jobs and workers can move freely to fill them,” the commission stressed.

Launched in April 2006, the Commission on Growth and Development brings together 21 leading practitioners from the government, business and the policymaking arenas, mostly from the developing world. The commission is chaired by Nobel Laureate Michael Spence, former dean of the Stanford Graduate Business School; Danny Leipziger, vice president of the World Bank, is the commission’s vice-chairman.

Over a period of two years the commission was tasked to seek to gather the best understanding there is about the policies and strategies that underlie rapid and sustained economic growth and poverty reduction. The commission’s audience is the leaders of developing countries.

in english, we should work harder

davaob4now
May 24th, 2008, 12:18 PM
it's in the tv news here in australia that the western world (1st world countries) is already welcoming china and india...philippines should work triple times to catch up with all those years that were lost...

amigo32
May 24th, 2008, 01:35 PM
in english, we should work harder

we can do that in 6 months time:D
all of us should marry rich foreigners:D j/k:lol:

Igsuonnimo
May 24th, 2008, 02:00 PM
RP needs 159 years to become 1st World
By Cai U. Ordinario
http://www.businessmirror.com.ph/0523&242008/banking01.html

IF the Philippines grows at its highest gross domestic product (GDP) growth during the past 10 years, it will take 159 years before it catches up with the growth achieved by member-countries of the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD).

This is part of the findings of the final report of the Commission on Growth and Development, titled, “Growth Report: Strategies for Sustained Growth and Inclusive Development.” The commission is cofunded by the World Bank, the William and Flora Hewlett Foundation and the governments of Australia, Sweden, the Netherlands and United Kingdom.

“Growth is not an end in itself. But it makes it possible to achieve other important objectives of individuals and societies. It can spare people, en masse from poverty and drudgery. Nothing else ever has. It also creates the resources to support health care, education and the other Millennium Development Goals to which the world has committed itself. In short, we take the view that growth is a necessary, if not sufficient, condition for broader development, enlarging the scope for individuals to be productive and creative,” the report noted.





Isa sa magandang aral ng kasaysayan ay itong British Empire at ang bansang Turkey.

Pero bago mabuo ang Turkey ni Kemal Ataturk, nagkaroon na ng outlook ang mga Bitoy(British) kung ano ang kaibahan nito sa Ottoman Empire.

Pinilit ni Mustafa Kemal na hindi mapasa-ilalim ng Franco-British o Western Powers ang sibilisasyon ng Turkey(Ottoman).Kaya pumailanlang ang idelohiya nito —–KEMALIST IDEOLOGY.

Kung tayo ay may sariling batayan upang maiangat ang pamantayan ng pamumuhay. Kaya natin ito!
NOW NA!

Tama ang sabi ni Amigo32 , sex months time...
pero hindi sa pamamagitan ng pagpapakasal sa mga 4rangers.(bcoz, they're strangers)


just seek the truth baby :banana: :pepper:

jpdm
May 24th, 2008, 03:53 PM
That was not the way how the professionals measured a country to give them the NIC status. Its not because indonesia has a bigger economy output than ours that doesn't mean they were granted w/ the NIC status. You should check the link again and read.

I know.

That's why I suggest, read my other post on the meaning of NIC in this thread..

jpdm
May 24th, 2008, 03:58 PM
you should have highlighted the "strong industrial base unlike ours" not the trade deficits....

anyway,

NIC status incorporates alot of meaning....it can be in terms of the level of industrialization of a particular country...

..in can be in terms of GDP/GNI/NI....

..in terms of the percentage GDP/GNI derived from the industrial sector

..financial resources..

...percentage of manufactured vs. agricultural exports...

...BOP..

...GIR..

trade deficits somehow is a gauge of the capability of the country to produce goods and/or the state of its GIR/BOP/current account. These in turn are gauges of the strength of our currency vis-a-vis with other currencies...

Trade deficits tend to limit our chances to produce more foreign exchange for our economy...(sans OFW remittances and other services i.e. remittances of Filipino Multinational companies like San MIguel, Jollibee and URC)

...which the government use as a gauge in say computing the amount of money that can be use to buy imports such as oil.....

Para wag ka nang maghanap, eto spearhead.....

Igsuonnimo
May 24th, 2008, 04:09 PM
Para wag ka nang maghanap, eto spearhead.....


makisali na sa usapan nyo spearhead at jdpm.


Quality of life (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quality_of_life) is the degree of well-being felt by an individual or group of people. Unlike standard of living, quality of life is not a tangible concept, and therefore cannot be measured directly. Furthermore, quality of life consists of two components. The first is a physical aspect which includes such things as health, diet, as well as protection against pain and disease. The second component is psychological in nature. This aspect includes such things as stress, worry, pleasure and other positive or negative emotional states. It is virtually impossible to predict the quality of life of a specific individual, since the combination of attributes that leads one individual to be content is rarely the same for another individual. However, one can assume with some confidence the higher average level of diet, shelter, safety, as well as freedoms and rights a general population has, the better overall quality of life said population experiences. The Economist Intelligence Unit’s quality of life index is based on a unique methodology that links the results of subjective life-satisfaction surveys to the objective determinants of quality of life across countries.

Understanding quality of life is today particularly important in health care, where monetary measures do not readily apply. Decisions on what research or treatments to invest the most in are closely related to their effect on a patient's quality of life.

Organisational wellbeing looks at related factors from a corporate perspective, although this agenda is also informed by the employers' duty-of-care and external drivers such as the UK Health and Safety Executive's Management Standards for Stress Organisational wellbeing looks at wellbeing issues that affect a company's staff and manages them to drive change and improve performance.

jpdm
May 24th, 2008, 04:23 PM
^^
yup. thats one of the accepted indicators. Marami pang iba...

Actually, we dont need to duplicate the level of development of the G7 or the OECD countries...

...as long as we have achieved food self-sufficiency, fairly proficient in producing our industrial needs (we have the basic strategic industries i.e. fully integrated steel industry, fully integrated petrochemical industry, modern metallurgical sector, modern tool and die, metal manufacturing industry, integrated electronics and electrical machineries and component industries, textile and garments, construction, leather, energy...

...Of course, equitable distribution of income (re: income gap between rich and poor is not very wide..)

...clean surroundings..

....pristine environment with intact biodiversity...

....Ok na sa akin in my opinion....

....In 100 years, iba na configuration ng global economic order....

...countries who were able to save their resources will survive...

odyssey
May 24th, 2008, 04:30 PM
^^this is a misleading article...
it states that it will take 159 yrs for the country to be developed but they took a maximum GDP growth rate of only 4.3%.



^^This is what should have been in the headline...
an annual growth rate of 6.5% is foreseeable for an improving Philippine economy. Especially with more improvements in infrastructure, health and education in the coming years.

Too bad though, PGMA said that Philippines would be first world by 2020. Oh well, at least we know its not impossible. :)

It depends on what benchmark is used when using the old-fashioned term "First World". If what they meant by First World is similar to building something like NASA or flying to the moon and the outerspace, medyo mukhang 500 years behind ang Pilipinas. But if Pakistan and North Korea were able to build rocket ships in just a few decades of hardwork and focus, bakit hindi ang Pilipinas.

But if the benchmark is like South Korea and Singapore, we can still catch up in 15 - 20 years time if we devote our time and resources on technology and focus on infrastructure. But it needs education, cooperation, honesty and discipline of each and every Pinoy. Though the presence of bad elements like CPP-NPA,MILF-MNLF- ABU-JI and the gangs will hamper growth.

spearhead
May 24th, 2008, 07:36 PM
Para wag ka nang maghanap, eto spearhead.....

I know.

That's why I suggest, read my other post on the meaning of NIC in this thread..

No need to compare indonesia anymore, NIC na sila ngayon as they are included in the secondary emerging economy list.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Developed_country

FTSE Global Equity Index
The FTSE Group classifies countries into three categorizes, the process by which stock markets are classified as either Developed or Emerging markets within the FTSE Global Equity Index Series. The categories are Developed, Advanced Emerging, and Secondary Emerging.

“ FTSE, helped by an expert committee of market practitioners, reviews quality of market criteria for all stock markets included in FTSE GEIS to assess the ease, cost and security of underlying investment transactions by international investors in all countries.[12]”

FTSE classification, as of January 2008:[13]

Developed: Australia, Austria, Belgium, Luxembourg, Canada, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Greece[14], Hong Kong, Ireland, Israel[15], Italy, Japan, Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Portugal, Singapore, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, United Kingdom and the United States.

Advanced emerging: Brazil, Hungary[15], Mexico, Poland[15], South Africa, South Korea[16] and Taiwan[16].

Secondary emerging: Argentina, Chile, China, Colombia, Czech Republic, Egypt, India, Indonesia, Malaysia, Morocco, Pakistan[17], Peru, Philippines, Russia, Thailand and Turkey.

iloilocitykid
May 25th, 2008, 02:54 AM
^^ Russia? Secondary emerging? That's a surprise...

jpdm
May 25th, 2008, 07:05 AM
....These are the days when we need to re-think about the "standards imposed" by "professionals" (re: experts funded by industrialized countries)....

....if you have reach a certain level of material progress you can be considered as "rich" and developed?

...Even if majority of your people are marginalized by income disparity,social disfunction, unemployment and bereft of a pristine environment due to massive environmental degradation?,

crappypants
May 25th, 2008, 10:12 AM
never believe these first world controlled foreign institutions. they always predict doom and gloom scenarios for developing countries to perpetuate the world status quo. they always need cheap labor to fuel their economies so it's their best interest to keep developing countries "developing."
That's absurd to say it'll take us 159 years to develop into first world.
Same as with people you should never listen to naysayers around you if you have a goal; remaining steadfast and focused is the key.

amigo32
May 25th, 2008, 10:32 AM
never believe these first world controlled foreign institutions. they always predict doom and gloom scenarios for developing countries to perpetuate the world status quo. they always need cheap labor to fuel their economies so it's their best interest to keep developing countries "developing."
That's absurd to say it'll take us 159 years to develop into first world.
Same as with people you should never listen to naysayers around you if you have a goal; remaining steadfast and focused is the key.

:D ang galing talaga ni crappy, bull's eye:D

iloilocitykid
May 25th, 2008, 10:56 AM
I do agree. Last time I checked, many international groups have said it would take us 30 years to be first world...how come it became 159 years? I don't remember having a recession..

amigo32
May 25th, 2008, 11:01 AM
natatawa ako,:D pag binalik natin ang panahon natin ng 159 years, mukhang lalabas na mga caveman pa tayo:D o baka unggoy pa hindi pa kumpleto ang evolution:D

crappypants
May 25th, 2008, 11:33 AM
I mean really , will our growthrate remain 2% for 154 years?
when it's a foreign analyst who give their opinion we seem to give it more clout and and give it credence as the bible truth. Tiwala lang sa sarile ang kailangan. and if our govt. is F** up then we can always strive for betterment and excellence as individuals and eventually this will rub off on our society as a whole.
just like what's happening with the ofw phenomenon. I don't think most of these people's motivation to leave is to help the country but to help their families but collectively they're also helping the economy thereby helping the country.

NOVO ECIJANO
May 25th, 2008, 11:40 AM
159 YEARS TO BECOME FIRST WORLD STATUS,OH THAT NOT FAIR :ohno:


IN EARLY 70'S BOTH KOREA AND THE PHILIPPINES HAVE THE SAME LEVEL OF ECONOMY BUT WITH CONTINOUS GDP GROWTH AVERAGING 8 PERCENT GDP KOREA MANAGED TO BECOME ADVANCED ECONOMY IN 20 YEARS.

kevinb
May 25th, 2008, 11:45 AM
^^ so what map is this for?

Philip, sometimes. :D

It must be economics. I also remember my teacher telling us that. That agriculture is the foundation of a modernized and industrialized economy. I think at that time I thought that it was all just crap. :lol:

:lol:

But seriously, it's not exactly agriculture. Why agriculture? Look at Japan. It's agricultural sector is not THAT healthy as well that's why it needs to import much of it food, but is the second largest economy in the world. Look at the city-state Singapore. Where would you think are their agricultural farm lands to support its populace? Hoiw about HK and Macao?

But still our country is, as based upon the provinces not on Manila, is largely agricultural. There could actually be a time wherein much of our lands will be turned into industrial zones, but at the moment we still need farming, as much as the tourism, services and manufacturing sectors are needed. The agricultural sector must not be left behind by other sectors since, as I said, our country is still depending much in it. A lot of our countrymen will suffer if this will continue. I hope not...

it's in the tv news here in australia that the western world (1st world countries) is already welcoming china and india...philippines should work triple times to catch up with all those years that were lost...

I agree. But at this moment, it will still be very difficult for us if a large group of people will be hindering the government to do its part, which is like a very big part -- governing, creating and implementing appropriate laws that will boost our country. I hope we'll get there. I'm not expecting us to get there tomorrow, but the soonest possible time.

bitoy
May 25th, 2008, 11:56 AM
RP needs 159 years to become 1st World ~ I guess we would never find out if Pinas can achieved that status. :lol:


Some predictions also : Within 100 years, mauubusan ng langis ang Middle East and some island nations would sink. :nuts:

I better download all the porno movies that I want to see. :lol:




Russia? Secondary emerging? That's a surprise... ~ Russia is just economically recovering right now after the breakup of the Soviet Union.

kevinb
May 25th, 2008, 11:58 AM
^^ Correct. And also after all of the revolutions and uprisings that crippled the economy.

iloilocitykid
May 25th, 2008, 12:46 PM
^^ Well, I'm happy they're recovering. I think now, they're the number one energy producer in the world.

jpdm
May 25th, 2008, 04:05 PM
This is the 21st century..

...we dont need to understand rocket science to come up with our own economic development strategies....

...These guys who keep on telling us that we should do this and do that specially foreign "experts" dont even know our history....

...they assumed that what worked for them will work for us....

...just like when they keep on ramming to our throats that the Philippines can develop economically if we convert our economy into a service oriented one with no manufacturing industry or agriculture to speak of...

...This is the most stupid, idiotic, chicken shit, jackass economic idea that I ever heard... :bash::bash:

...No country can attain economic development without agriculture and industrialization!!

...Yung Singapore and Hong kong are special cases because they are mere cities....

....in the next 100 years..they better look for other economic strategies because the amount of energy and food will determine the survival of countries...

...Yung mga consumer electronics or industrial goods will lose their importance in the near future when basic needs for survival will be the priority of governments....

...If you read between the lines these a-holes global experts just want to maintain a market for their benefactors (industrialized countries) with a declining population, overproduction and shrinking domestic market..So ang Pinas gigisahin...

..Yang demonyong JPEPA na yan ay example ng panloloko sa atin...With a shrinking population comes a shrinking market so Japan needs a new market..tayo yun..

...So that they can maintain their lifestyles and economic status at the expense of poor countries like ours...


...we need to have our own strategy fit for Philippine needs and settings and not models of any country..

...Since, we became Philippines...we have already tried all strategies dictated to us by foreigners and yet we failed to effectively solve our economic woes such as poverty...its time to determine our own path of development....

bartstrife99
May 25th, 2008, 04:45 PM
http://C:\Documents and Settings\3B2\My Documents\My Pictures

The Next Eleven (or N-11) are eleven countries identified by Goldman Sachs investment bank as having a high potential of becoming the world's largest economies along with the BRICs. The bank chose these nations, all with promising outlooks for investment and future growth, on December 12, 2005.

Next Eleven countries

* Flag of Bangladesh Bangladesh: (Developing country)
* Flag of Egypt Egypt: (Newly industrialized country, ENP, COMESA, G-20 developing nations member)
* Flag of Indonesia Indonesia: (Newly industrialized country, G-20 industrial nations member)
* Flag of Iran Iran: (Developing country, OPEC, ECO, Developing 8 Countries, G-15 member)
* Flag of Mexico Mexico: (Newly industrialized country, NAFTA, G8+5, G-20 industrial nations member, OECD member (1994))
* Flag of Nigeria Nigeria: (Developing country, G-20 developing nations member)
* Flag of Pakistan Pakistan: (Developing country, G-20 developing nations member)
* Flag of the Philippines Philippines: (Newly industrialized country, APEC member, G-20 developing nations member)
* Flag of South Korea South Korea: (Developed country, Advanced economy (CIA and IMF), G-20 industrial nations member, ASEAN Plus Three member, APEC member, EAS member, OECD member)
* Flag of Turkey Turkey: (Newly industrialized country, Developed country (CIA), EU Customs Union, G-20 industrial nations member, OECD member)
* Flag of Vietnam Vietnam: (Developing country, APEC member)

I think Philippines can attain its goal before 2030 and not in 2160 since we are already categorize as a Newly Industrialized Country as capitalist nation with huge Agricultural industry to compare to other nation! for
Ex. remove oil in M. East ( Saudi, Dubai, Iraq, Iran) ;
remove Industry in the Norther Asia (S.Korea, Japan, Taiwan, China) ;
remove Food Industry in S.E Asia ( Thailand, Vietnam, Indonesia, and Malaysia) where they can get they sources of income for economic sustainability? nothing right. my intent here is for inspiration for all of us not war for other Asian nation I'm pointed out! unlike in the Philippines home of full natural resources that can sustain the people basic need and highly skilled Blue and white Collar job demand abroad! but one of our major problem is we don't know how to utilize it properly! especially the Filipino invention (ex. fluorescent lamp, energy from water etc...) na ang mga nakinabang ay taga ibang bansa !

neyoneyo80
May 26th, 2008, 08:17 PM
RP needs 159 years to become 1st World ~ I guess we would never find out if Pinas can achieved that status. :lol:


Some predictions also : Within 100 years, mauubusan ng langis ang Middle East and some island nations would sink. :nuts:

I better download all the porno movies that I want to see. :lol:



this is a lot more productive po :lol: any links po for our consumption :lol: :cheers:

NOVO ECIJANO
June 16th, 2008, 02:25 PM
http://http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/storypage.aspx?StoryId=121936

:banana:First RP-made, double-hull oil tanker sails
By LILITA BALANE
abs-cbnNEWS.com

The first Philippine-made, double-hull oil tanker, designed to prevent prevent costly and environmentally-destructive oil spills such as the disaster that hit Guimaras in 2006, is now sailing.

“The ship is currently transporting bunker fuels in different parts of the country. From the Pacific Ocean to the Petron refinery in Bataan. It started last April 8. So far, the performance of M/T Matikas is far more than we expected.” George Cottrell, president of the Herma Shipyard Inc., said.

Hermio Esguerra, chairman of the Herma Group of Companies said double-hulled ships such as M/T Matikas would help lower the incidence of oil spills.

Esguerra said that the ship that sank in Guimaras was a single-hull oil tanker. With a double-hull, petroleum products are protected on all sides, he added.

"Any leaks caused by punctures will be absorbed by another hull. There is a hollow which will hold the products in case of an accident", Esguerra said.

The Philippine government imposed double-layered ships as carriers of petroleum products after M/T Solar, a single-hull oil tanker carrying more than two million liters of bunker fuel, sank at Guimaras Strait on August 11, 2006.

The oil spill devasted the marine life and mangrove reserves in more than five municipalities in Negros Occidental.

Esguerra said the cargo tank is designed to provide five-product grade segregation. He said that the possibility of contamination between products is eliminated because of the double-valve system.

Esguerra also stressed that M/T Matikas is equipped with a fully-segregated ballast system, which is designed to prevent contamination between the cargo tanks and the ballast tanks. With these, Esguerra said that the oil tank is clean and ballast water released to the sea is oil-free.

M/T Matikas, which costs 10 million US dollars, was approved by the International Maritime Organization (IMO). The IMO also ordered that carriers of petroleum products must be double-hull oil tankers to prevent oil spills.

The ship is licensed and certified by Maritime Industry Authority (MARINA), American Bureau of Shipping, Ships Inspection Report, and the Marine Pollution, an International Convention for the Prevention of Pollution From Ships (MARPOL).

Aside from an oil tanker that is safe to the environment, Esguerra said that "his company is proud to say that the ship was built locally and was built by Filipinos."

"We are not just launching a vessel here, we are launching a history. This is the first oil tanker ship that is 100% Filipino-made. It was built in Hermana Shipyard in Bataan.The design was done by Filipino engineers and naval architects. The welders were also Filipinos. This is a breakthrough in our shipbuilding industry", Esguerra said.

“It is the first time that Herma came up with its new, double-hull ship. Before, we (Herma) just convert local vessels of single-hull to double-hull ships.Now, we were able to come up with a new one", a staff of Herma Shipyard, Inc. said.

Cottrell said the company can buy an oil tanker from abroad, but it is more expensive. To import a cheaper ship would mean sacrificing quality, he said.

“Herma Shipyard can buy double-hull ships from abroad, like in Japan or Korea, but it is expensive. We (Herma) may choose to buy those from China, but we cannot sacrifice the quality of the ship. It may be cheaper, but could be of low quality. So we decided to build our own oil tanker here in the country”, Cottrell explained.

Esguerra explained that he was encouraged to build a double-hull ship when he visited shipyards abroad. He said he saw many Filipinos working in the shipyards of Korea, Japan, Taiwan, Singapore and China.

"Most of their workers are Filipinos. I realized that the Filipinos have many talents, but they were not utilized inside the country because of the lack of opportunities," he said. "Many overseas workers sacrificed their families to work in shipyards abroad."

Esguerra said that if the Filipinos can show the world that they can create world-class ships for the international market, the country can generate more jobs.

blueslayzler
July 28th, 2008, 03:46 AM
If this thread is not appropriate or if there already is one like it, then go ahead and delete.

But I wanted everyone's opinions how the Philippines will be like in 42 years.
In terms of
-Economy: GDP, poverty, employment, etc.
-Culture, material: psych, social, etc.
-Environment: pollution, biodiversity, flora, etc.
-Architecture: housing style, skyscraper style
-Technology: cars, housing, computers, etc.
-Education


In my opinion, I know I maybe in the minority, but i think that the future of the Philippines is actually positive. Despite what the Philippines has went through in the last 50 years, lets not forget its former reputation. Immediately after WWII, the world deemed the Philippines as the potential world leader in Asia. Not, China, not Japan, not South Korea.



And to this day, we still have the advantages...
1. we have a great tourist mecca
2. a great English speaking population
3. very accommodating culture that foreigners fall in love with
3. a high literacy rate
4. a global industry
5. a democratic system
6. a great understanding of Americans, Europeans, Asians, Latin Americans
7. and a strong pride for the country.


The past 50 years of the Philippines has been plagued with the pattern of corruption seen by countries that have been colonized by Spain. You can't really compare the Philippines to the rest of Asia because they were colonized by Britain and France. You can however compare the Philippines to the Central and South American countries which have been colonized by Spain. And look at all of them...they are severely corrupt. But amidst all of that, time has healed some of these countries. Have you seen Rio De Jenairo, Brazil lately? Impressive, and Mexico is improving a lot too. And those countries have been independent for a lot longer than we have, they got independence in the late 1800's while we got independence in 1945?(Not sure) All throughout the 1900's, Brazil and Mexico have had really bad reputations. But some good leadership and good businessmen have made a name for these countries. All throughout Mexico's history as a sovereign nation, they have been the example of a corrupt nation, but their latest president, Felipe Calderon has really put his best foot forward for the Mexicans, and now they are slowly making a revival. That goes to show that it only takes one good president or leader to make a difference. And believe me, Mexico was WAY more corrupt then the Philippines is back in the 80's and 90's.



Moving on to the Filipinos, from what I see, Filipinos have a way better work ethic than most developing countries. You can see that buy the way we represent our selves as immigrants. Filipinos in America are either nurses, engineers, doctors or business men. Statistics show that Phil-Americans are into the upper middle class making $90,000-$150,000 a year on average. The average for white America is only $65,000. In school and in the work place, we are known as well behaved, loud...but charming and highly disciplined. So that just goes to show how Filipinos really are when they have a government that supports them. Compare Filipinos to Mexican Americans or other Hispanic Americans. They are known to be undisciplined, un-academic and in poverty. Look at European Americans, they are on the average with the rest of white America. IN CONCLUSION, the argument that the Philippines is poor because of lazy undisciplined people is false in my opinion. Just look at our stars, Charice Pempengco, Jabbawockeez, and Manny Pacquio. All the odds were against them. They didn't just get to the top on just pure talent alone. They got there through hard work and discipline.



Another thing that I want to tap at is national pride. There is no question in my mind that Filipinos are not patriotic. You go to any culture day at school and Filipinos will always be the ones bragging the most. We have a huge sense of community and we love to flash are Pinoy pride everywhere we go. When I was in the Philippines, everyone always stands up when reciting the Philippine national anthem. So that argument that Filipinos don't love they're country enough is not true IN MY HUMBLE OPINION.



I think that the Philippines is poor because of a horribly greedy set of families that runs everything that couldn't control the population explosion. Lets not forget that during the 60's, Philippine's population was only in the 20 millions. In just 40 years, the population multiplied over four times to the 90 million that it is today. I have a firm believe that we are poor because a corrupt and greedy family couldn't satisfy an unbelievably exploding population. The U.S.'s population only doubled from then 60's. China's population only doubled in the 60's as well. Under these conditions, it's hard to believe that the Philippines got where they are today. Another thing that plagues the Philippines is the divided people. In a country the size of Florida, we have over 200 ethnic groups and over 150 languages. China, along with the rest of Asia only have one language for the most part. Though Korea and China's provincial languages are only a small minority. So trying to unite people that live in over 500 islands is already difficult enough. The only other country that has this problem is Indonesia, but they're in the same boat as we are. Not only that, but we have some of the worst geographical conditions. We have huge monsoons that make hurricane Katrina look like child's play. And they happen every year! We have huge earthquakes that could topple are hard earned skyscrapers. We have volcano eruptions that need billions of dollars in repair. So all of these things are fighting against us.



In conclusion, if we can get just one, just one good leader to make an example out of a corrupt nation, then I think we can slowly heal the government. If we can attract foreign businesses for outsourcing, I think we can slowly climb up. If we just take advantage of the natural blessings that we have, then I think our country might just have a bright future ahead.



If you read it, thank you very much. I just wanted my opinions to be heard and for someone to discuss with. I know it's long and boring, but thank you.

urban myth
July 28th, 2008, 04:54 AM
I believe in the Philippines. I believe in Filipinos.

I'm tired of people who just rant and complain, bashing everything about the Philiippines thinking its cool or it makes them cool. I'm tired of the endless rallies with people making a career out of critcizing the government. The government will never be perfect and criticizing perpetually without providing solutions adds up to the problem.

As far as our opinions are parallel to each other, I agree with you.

As far as concrete solutions, here a list of things that I believe the country needs from its people so that it can develop (A list that I try to exhibit. It is my concrete contribution to the country. Whether anyone who reads this will do the same, I can only hope):

1. Change of perception - I exhibit national pride in both words and action. I always promote the Philippines when I can. I do not lie, but I highlight the good and simply shut up about the bad. People should stop bashing the country as past time.
2. Work hard and live a decent life - Enough said.
3. Obey rules and regulation - It is a way to not only to show respect to the country but also to set an example.
4. Exhibit pro-active positive attitude - Don't be just positive, be pro-active about it. That means spread being positive to others. That means supporting fellow filipinos.

I believe that for every bad thing happening, there are more good things taking place at the same time. It is just unfortunate that bad things are more trivial and therefore they receive more attention.

I believe the hopeless mindset is perpetuated by the babyboomers, people who experienced the edsa revolution and whose experience with the philippines has been one of deterioration from the glorious pre-martial law years to its struggles in the years after up to the present. Their perception is understandable because that is their experience. However, it is not everyone's and most certainly, it is not unchangeable.

spearhead
July 28th, 2008, 05:45 AM
Im sure the philippines will be a lot better in 42 yrs.

blueslayzler
July 28th, 2008, 06:33 AM
I believe in the Philippines. I believe in Filipinos.

I'm tired of people who just rant and complain, bashing everything about the Philiippines thinking its cool or it makes them cool. I'm tired of the endless rallies with people making a career out of critcizing the government. The government will never be perfect and criticizing perpetually without providing solutions adds up to the problem.

As far as our opinions are parallel to each other, I agree with you.

As far as concrete solutions, here a list of things that I believe the country needs from its people so that it can develop (A list that I try to exhibit. It is my concrete contribution to the country. Whether anyone who reads this will do the same, I can only hope):

1. Change of perception - I exhibit national pride in both words and action. I always promote the Philippines when I can. I do not lie, but I highlight the good and simply shut up about the bad. People should stop bashing the country as past time.
2. Work hard and live a decent life - Enough said.
3. Obey rules and regulation - It is a way to not only to show respect to the country but also to set an example.
4. Exhibit pro-active positive attitude - Don't be just positive, be pro-active about it. That means spread being positive to others. That means supporting fellow filipinos.

I believe that for every bad thing happening, there are more good things taking place at the same time. It is just unfortunate that bad things are more trivial and therefore they receive more attention.

I believe the hopeless mindset is perpetuated by the babyboomers, people who experienced the edsa revolution and whose experience with the philippines has been one of deterioration from the glorious pre-martial law years to its struggles in the years after up to the present. Their perception is understandable because that is their experience. However, it is not everyone's and most certainly, it is not unchangeable.

Yea! That's my kuyah! LoL

Another thing I want to point out is people always describe the Philippines as starving. What? Since when do people in the Philippines starve? We may have a low GDP per capital, horrible infrastructure, and little housing, that doesn't mean we starve! The average Filipino is 8 lbs. heavier than the average Chinese person. The average Filipino lives 70 years. Does that sound starving to you? And we're being compared to countries like Haiti? That has a life expectancy of like 40! Please!

Wind Shear
July 29th, 2008, 07:52 AM
Not to mention we are the best in gender equality in Asia. :-)

Maxxclip
July 29th, 2008, 09:26 AM
another thread for humiliation

blueslayzler
July 29th, 2008, 06:19 PM
another thread for humiliation

How is this for humiliation?

urban myth
July 31st, 2008, 05:08 AM
Here is my super optimistic prediction for 2050 (my realistic prediction to follow).

The following facts supposedly took place after Filipinos stopped criticizing each other and began successfully electing leaders that puts the country's interest first in the 2010's:

1. GDP is at 15% every year since 2020
2. Today's forex: 1 Php (down) = 80.23USD (up) = 40.32 EU (up)
3. Unemployment rate is at 0.0009%
4. National debt has been paid since 2022
5. Philippines develop clean and sustainable solar/hydro/nuclear energy technology in 2023
5. Filipinos no longer live below the poverty line and 80% of the population is considered middle-class
6. Filipino culture is emulated throughout the world, as filipino media begins to permeate the globe in 2024
7. Philippines begin to export technologically improved Sarao Jeepneys
8. World Survey: Philippine armed forces now have the best military technology and equipment in the world
9. Spratly Islands are awarded to the Philippines after China, Vietnam, Malaysia and Taiwan pull out their claims for unknown reasons
10. Sabah is also being offered back to the Philippines
11. Tourists in the Philippines have reached a total of 1 Billion in 2026
12. The Philippines has overtaken Japan in terms of economic progress
13. OFW now stands for Overseas Filipino Wealth, a statistic that measures Filipino investments abroad, as Overseas Filipino Workers have ceased to exist since 2018
14. Arabs have run out of oil and are now working in the Philippines as OAWs
15. The Philippines inaugurates the tallest structure in the world in 2028: The Manila 1000. A tower of 1000 floors reaching up to the edges of the atmosphere
16. The Philippines reclaims 100 acres of land from the ocean every year, thereby increasing the total land area of the country
17. Philippine citizenship is now highly coveted, having the best pension and health care plans in the world, prompting the creation of the Kagawaran ng Iligal na Dayuhan ng Pilipinas (Philippine Anti-Illegal Aliens Agency) or KIDP
18. American mail order brides become a concern
19. Philippines becomes a permanent member of the UN Security Council
20. The Sentro ng Panliparan at Pangkalawakang Pananaliksik ng Pilipinas (Philippine Aeronautics Research and Space Center) or SPPPP has been established
21. Filipino inventors invent teleportation technology in 2034, revolutionizing modern day transportation and making road and transportation infrastructure obsolete in the Philippines
22. The Philippines becomes a taxless society in 2040.
23. World Survey: Filipinos are ranked the happiest people in the planet
24. The Philippines successfully finds another planet capable of sustaining life and successfully colonizes it
25. Filipinos now exhibit national pride and are united, proud of their culture, history and heritage.

Mabuhay ang Pilipinas! :)

Maxxclip
July 31st, 2008, 05:18 AM
Here is my super optimistic prediction for 2050 (my realistic prediction to follow).

The following facts supposedly took place after Filipinos stopped criticizing each other and began successfully electing leaders that puts the country's interest first in the 2010's:

14. Arabs have run out of oil and are now working in the Philippines as OAWs


Sweet Revenge~! :nuts::lol:

kiretoce
July 31st, 2008, 07:48 AM
Here is my super optimistic prediction for 2050 (my realistic prediction to follow).

The following facts supposedly took place after Filipinos stopped criticizing each other and began successfully electing leaders that puts the country's interest first in the 2010's:

1. GDP is at 15% every year since 2020
2. Today's forex: 1 Php (down) = 80.23USD (up) = 40.32 EU (up)
3. Unemployment rate is at 0.0009%
4. National debt has been paid since 2022
5. Philippines develop clean and sustainable solar/hydro/nuclear energy technology in 2023
5. Filipinos no longer live below the poverty line and 80% of the population is considered middle-class
6. Filipino culture is emulated throughout the world, as filipino media begins to permeate the globe in 2024
7. Philippines begin to export technologically improved Sarao Jeepneys
8. World Survey: Philippine armed forces now have the best military technology and equipment in the world
9. Spratly Islands are awarded to the Philippines after China, Vietnam, Malaysia and Taiwan pull out their claims for unknown reasons
10. Sabah is also being offered back to the Philippines
11. Tourists in the Philippines have reached a total of 1 Billion in 2026
12. The Philippines has overtaken Japan in terms of economic progress
13. OFW now stands for Overseas Filipino Wealth, a statistic that measures Filipino investments abroad, as Overseas Filipino Workers have ceased to exist since 2018
14. Arabs have run out of oil and are now working in the Philippines as OAWs
15. The Philippines inaugurates the tallest structure in the world in 2028: The Manila 1000. A tower of 1000 floors reaching up to the edges of the atmosphere
16. The Philippines reclaims 100 acres of land from the ocean every year, thereby increasing the total land area of the country
17. Philippine citizenship is now highly coveted, having the best pension and health care plans in the world, prompting the creation of the Kagawaran ng Iligal na Dayuhan ng Pilipinas (Philippine Anti-Illegal Aliens Agency) or KIDP
18. American mail order brides become a concern
19. Philippines becomes a permanent member of the UN Security Council
20. The Sentro ng Panliparan at Pangkalawakang Pananaliksik ng Pilipinas (Philippine Aeronautics Research and Space Center) or SPPPP has been established
21. Filipino inventors invent teleportation technology in 2034, revolutionizing modern day transportation and making road and transportation infrastructure obsolete in the Philippines
22. The Philippines becomes a taxless society in 2040.
23. World Survey: Filipinos are ranked the happiest people in the planet
24. The Philippines successfully finds another planet capable of sustaining life and successfully colonizes it
25. Filipinos now exhibit national pride and are united, proud of their culture, history and heritage.

Mabuhay ang Pilipinas! :)

It's good that dreaming is still free. ;)

le Reine
July 31st, 2008, 08:36 AM
15% Real GDP growth every year? kamusta sa inflation.

urban myth
July 31st, 2008, 11:32 AM
15% Real GDP growth every year? kamusta sa inflation.

Inflation is record breaking at -3.0% ... :P

flymordecai
August 1st, 2008, 03:29 AM
:lol: I like those positive (and unrealistic) predictions.

flymordecai
August 1st, 2008, 03:33 AM
I like this one:

20. The Sentro ng Panliparan at Pangkalawakang Pananaliksik ng Pilipinas (Philippine Aeronautics Research and Space Center) or SPPPP has been established

:lol:

This one I hope will become true:

25. Filipinos now exhibit national pride and are united, proud of their culture, history and heritage.

le Reine
August 1st, 2008, 07:10 AM
Inflation is record breaking at -3.0% ... :Pdeflation is not good. it is a sign of recession. economists, correct me on this. :D

urban myth
August 1st, 2008, 07:22 AM
deflation is not good. it is a sign of recession. economists, correct me on this. :D

Ah really? I'm not sure. Hmm.

Well, I was just aiming at the unprecedented lowering of the cost of goods in the philippines. I mean, if the GDP is up by 15%, Isn't that a sign that there's no recession? :P

peejay202
August 1st, 2008, 01:31 PM
By 2010, Philippines will have a balanced budget
By 2011, Philippines' GDP would have reached 10
By 2012, a constitutional assembly will be spearheaded for a federal form of government
By 2013, A new constitution will be ratified
By 2014, The government will be officially called as "The Federal Republic of the Philippines"
By 2015, PAGCOR entertainment city will be realized
By 2017, Philippines will become the tourist capital of Southeast Asia
By 2019, Philippines GDP would have reached 15
By 2020, Phlippines will become a 1st WORLD COUNTRY:)

Porknight
August 1st, 2008, 10:07 PM
^^ what do you mean By 2011, Philippines' GDP would have reached 10% ?
10% of what?

tigidig14
August 1st, 2008, 10:29 PM
by 2009, tigs will try to go back to pnas for atleast 3 weeks

bitoy
August 2nd, 2008, 12:03 AM
By 2010, Philippines will have a balanced budget

By 2020, Phlippines will become a 1st WORLD COUNTRY:)

GMA's SONA last year and previous years was hoping to balance the budget, so as this year?

Talaga din naman yung mga "OTHER" expenses na yan sa libro... oo, hindi mahanapan kung saan ginastos or pinangregalo. :lol:

1st world country by 2020, that's a good wish list..... kung wala na sila Erap, Enrile, et al at GMA and friends sa mundong ito. :D

peejay202
August 2nd, 2008, 04:55 AM
^^ what do you mean By 2011, Philippines' GDP would have reached 10% ?
10% of what?

Uhmmm... 10 lang pala.. xuwi.. Di po ko economist. You could have been more constructive than sarcastic in correcting my statement.. :)

GMA's SONA last year and previous years was hoping to balance the budget, so as this year?

Talaga din naman yung mga "OTHER" expenses na yan sa libro... oo, hindi mahanapan kung saan ginastos or pinangregalo. :lol:

1st world country by 2020, that's a good wish list..... kung wala na sila Erap, Enrile, et al at GMA and friends sa mundong ito. :D

Kaya nga, it's a wishful thinking just as you said, not a prediction, uki? :)

bartstrife99
August 25th, 2008, 03:10 PM
Toyota picks RP as global engine hub

Opens P5.6-B transmission facility in Laguna
By Ronnel Domingo
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 18:51:00 08/24/2008

MANILA, Philippines--Toyota Motor Corp. is ramping up its Philippine operations to cement the country's role as its global manufacturing hub for manual transmission systems with the inauguration last Friday of a P5.6-billion expanded facility in Sta. Rosa, Laguna.

The expansion also marked Toyota Autoparts Philippines' starting production of the R-type transmission (RTM) that is used in Toyota's innovative international multipurpose vehicles or IMV series.

TMC chairman Fujio Cho graced the launch of the new facility, which he described as "a crucial component in our global (IMV) product line."

Toyota Autoparts president Yasuro Takeuchi said in an interview that the expanded facility at the Toyota Special Economic Zone featured a new building meant to accommodate planned increases in production and exports.

"We have three other RTM production bases in Japan, Thailand and India," Takeuchi said. "But the direction is toward making three global hubs for automatic and manual transmissions--the United States, Poland and the Philippines."

"Transmission systems that are produced here are competitive in terms of quality and cost compared to those made elsewhere in the region, even in Japan," he added.

The IMV series include the Innova utility vehicle, the Hilux pickup and the Fortuner sports utility vehicle.

Compared to the G-type gear box (GTM) that the company has been producing since 1992, the RTM is meant for vehicles that have bigger engine displacements.

The GTM is used in Hilux and Innova units with 2- and 2.5-liter engines while the RTM is used in all three IMVs with 2.5-, 2.7- and 3-liter engines.

Takeuchi said that for the fiscal year that ends in March 2009, the company planned to produce 300,000 transmission units or two-thirds more than the output in the previous year.

This accounts for the regular GTM output of 180,000 units a year and the initial 120,000 units of RTM that would be produced until March 2009.

Starting in Toyota's fiscal year 2010, RTM output will equal that of its GTM output.

With about 97 percent of production meant for export, Toyota Autoparts intends to ship out 290,000 units in 2009, or an increase of 71 percent.

The RTM is scheduled for shipment to Thailand, Indonesia, Vietnam, Malaysia, Taiwan, South Africa, Venezuela and Argentina.

As for the GTM, this is used in the locally assembled Innova and also exported to Thailand, Indonesia, Vietnam and Malaysia as well as Pakistan and India.

Takeuchi explained that the increasing global demand for IMVs prompted the decision to put up a RTM production line in Sta. Rosa.

RTM production provides 500 new jobs and more business to Toyota's local suppliers, which include Daiwa-Seiko Philippines, Aichi Forging, Technol-Eight, Philippine Hikari Seiko, Tokai-Rika Philippines, Othsuka Philippines and Koyo Philippines.

kevinb
August 25th, 2008, 04:33 PM
Toyota picks RP as global engine hub

Opens P5.6-B transmission facility in Laguna
By Ronnel Domingo
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 18:51:00 08/24/2008

MANILA, Philippines--Toyota Motor Corp. is ramping up its Philippine operations to cement the country's role as its global manufacturing hub for manual transmission systems with the inauguration last Friday of a P5.6-billion expanded facility in Sta. Rosa, Laguna.

"We have three other RTM production bases in Japan, Thailand and India," Takeuchi said. "But the direction is toward making three global hubs for automatic and manual transmissions--the United States, Poland and the Philippines."

"Transmission systems that are produced here are competitive in terms of quality and cost compared to those made elsewhere in the region, even in Japan," he added.

This is such a nice article! I hope more vehicle-manufacturing companies put up their global hubs here. :D

jpdm
August 25th, 2008, 04:44 PM
^^
agree!

bartstrife99
August 25th, 2008, 04:56 PM
Yeahh Both of You are right!:banana:

bartstrife99
September 29th, 2008, 04:03 PM
aiwan-model technology research proposed for economy to take off
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Melody M. Aguiba

The research agency that virtually turned Taiwan around from an agrarian to an industrialized economy suggests that the Philippines should put up a similar agency that can get technologies take off from the shelves.

The Philippines may derive a model from Taiwan in having established in 1973 the Industrial Technology Research Institute (ITRI) which widely bridged the gap needed in technology commercialization.

ITRI President Johnsee Lee told a Congressional Commission on Science, Technology, and Engineering (Comste) forum that the US technology model (of the academe collaborating with industries) may not work in Asian countries like Taiwan and the Philippines. But the ITRI model may work too for the country as much as it did in Taiwan . "I mentioned to Congressman (Mariano) Piamonte that the US model does not work for countries like Philippines and Taiwan. US companies are very big and have the capability to do research through links with the university. ITRI is like something in between to get the universities to work with industries," said Lee. Such institution, he said, should be run like a private enterprise, although it may receive seed money from government.

Comste Deputy Executive Director Dennis Ramon B. Posadas said that government has been studying the setting up of an institution that will enable the country to develop niche products that have high commercial potential. And ITRI may just lead the way. "We may set up an R&D institute that’s partly government and partly private. This may need a legislation. The role of government is basically to set incentives, maybe give some grants, some tax breaks," he said in an interview. Essential to making research institutions meet private enterprises’ needs for technology is a law that allows government-funded R&D works to be owned and patented by researchers themselves. "There should be a law that is like the (US’s) Bayh Dole Act. We have this in Taiwan, the Basic Law for Science and Technology approved 10 years ago. Before that, (selling the technology) was very difficult," said Lee.

Comste Executive Director Fortunato Dela Pena said that to start off with a similar ITRI agency, government may pass a law converting the Advanced Science and Technology Institute (ASTI) into a profit-earning corporation. ASTI at present is one of the Department of Science and Technology’s (DoST) seven research institutes. While earning a small profit, ASTI remits much of its earnings to government. "In my own personal view, I would probably start small and consider ASTI which is now focused on ICT (Information Communication Technology) and electronics to corporatize. Their mandate can cover many areas, not only ICT. Because it is advanced science and technology, it can also be on biotechnology and nanotechnology," he said. As Taiwan has been beefing up its R&D budget which is now approaching three percent of gross domestic product (GDP), the country should devote more budget for this from its present minuscule 0.12 percent of GDP, many times less than that of Taiwan, a lot smaller country of 23 million people. Lee noted that in the 1950s-1960s, the Philippines had a higher per capita income at 0 per person than Taiwan at 5. But with its investments in R&D, ninth biggest in the world at .372 billion as of 2004, it has experienced an economic miracle that has made it sixteenth in rank in global trade with a per capita income of ,790 and foreign exchange reserve as of August 2008 of 2.090 billion or fifth in the world. Lee said the Philippines still has an edge in being an English speaking-country and in having many natural resources, unlike Taiwan that only has its people as resource. However, its sole wealth in people, he stressed, enabled Taiwan to tap its greatest potential in developing high-technology industries. ITRI, an agency with more than 5,000 researchers and more than 1,000 Ph.Ds, has enabled the spin-off of many technology companies. The emergence of world’s biggest wafer foundry Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co. is partly attributed to it. ITRI has invested more than NT billion and has helped growth and birth of 255 companies under its Open Lab. These are Taiwan’s world market share in technology products: soho router, 93 percent; WLAN, 90 percent; Ethernet LAN switch, 84 percent; and cable CPE, 80 percent.

http://www.mb.com.ph/BSNS20080929136551.html

crappypants
September 29th, 2008, 05:14 PM
This is the 21st century..

...we dont need to understand rocket science to come up with our own economic development strategies....

...These guys who keep on telling us that we should do this and do that specially foreign "experts" dont even know our history....

...they assumed that what worked for them will work for us....

...just like when they keep on ramming to our throats that the Philippines can develop economically if we convert our economy into a service oriented one with no manufacturing industry or agriculture to speak of...

...This is the most stupid, idiotic, chicken shit, jackass economic idea that I ever heard... :bash::bash:

...No country can attain economic development without agriculture and industrialization!!

...Yung Singapore and Hong kong are special cases because they are mere cities....

....in the next 100 years..they better look for other economic strategies because the amount of energy and food will determine the survival of countries...

...Yung mga consumer electronics or industrial goods will lose their importance in the near future when basic needs for survival will be the priority of governments....

...If you read between the lines these a-holes global experts just want to maintain a market for their benefactors (industrialized countries) with a declining population, overproduction and shrinking domestic market..So ang Pinas gigisahin...

..Yang demonyong JPEPA na yan ay example ng panloloko sa atin...With a shrinking population comes a shrinking market so Japan needs a new market..tayo yun..

...So that they can maintain their lifestyles and economic status at the expense of poor countries like ours...


...we need to have our own strategy fit for Philippine needs and settings and not models of any country..

...Since, we became Philippines...we have already tried all strategies dictated to us by foreigners and yet we failed to effectively solve our economic woes such as poverty...its time to determine our own path of development....

100 % correct.

FlashCollider
September 30th, 2008, 03:19 AM
This is the 21st century..

...we dont need to understand rocket science to come up with our own economic development strategies....

...These guys who keep on telling us that we should do this and do that specially foreign "experts" dont even know our history....

...they assumed that what worked for them will work for us....

...just like when they keep on ramming to our throats that the Philippines can develop economically if we convert our economy into a service oriented one with no manufacturing industry or agriculture to speak of...

...This is the most stupid, idiotic, chicken shit, jackass economic idea that I ever heard... :bash::bash:

...No country can attain economic development without agriculture and industrialization!!

...Yung Singapore and Hong kong are special cases because they are mere cities....

....in the next 100 years..they better look for other economic strategies because the amount of energy and food will determine the survival of countries...

...Yung mga consumer electronics or industrial goods will lose their importance in the near future when basic needs for survival will be the priority of governments....

...If you read between the lines these a-holes global experts just want to maintain a market for their benefactors (industrialized countries) with a declining population, overproduction and shrinking domestic market..So ang Pinas gigisahin...

..Yang demonyong JPEPA na yan ay example ng panloloko sa atin...With a shrinking population comes a shrinking market so Japan needs a new market..tayo yun..

...So that they can maintain their lifestyles and economic status at the expense of poor countries like ours...


...we need to have our own strategy fit for Philippine needs and settings and not models of any country..

...Since, we became Philippines...we have already tried all strategies dictated to us by foreigners and yet we failed to effectively solve our economic woes such as poverty...its time to determine our own path of development....

Couldn't agree more.

Maxxclip
September 30th, 2008, 03:28 AM
...So that they can maintain their lifestyles and economic status at the expense of poor countries like ours...


...we need to have our own strategy fit for Philippine needs and settings and not models of any country..




:)

mAiNsTrEaMhunter
October 1st, 2008, 12:26 PM
how i wish we were newly industrialized or something! like were even named the sick man of the SHITHOLE.... so i guess we were being taught always to believe in miracles, so let it be! anywayz, if that happens, its everyday prophecy that life is just a spinnning wheel, sometimes your up, sometimes your down...but until now, we're still down, not even in the surface of it! :nuts::nuts::nuts:

barukdok
October 2nd, 2008, 05:18 AM
Just this hour: Singapore-based Channel News Asia reported that the PHILIPPINES is the HOTTEST REAL ESTATE MARKET in SOUTHEAST ASIA!

:banana::cheers::banana::cheers:

bartstrife99
October 9th, 2008, 05:41 PM
Hitachi unit expands operations in Subic

By Henry Empeño
Correspondent


SUBIC BAY FREEPORT—Hitachi Terminals Mechatronics (Philippines) Corp. (HTMP), one of the biggest exporters in this free port, said it is expanding its operations as it still expects growth in the market for its industrial electronics products worldwide.

The firm, which manufactures automated teller machine parts and card readers, broke ground last week for a new warehousing facility to be built at the Japanese-owned Subic Techno Park (STEP) here.

Hitachi Terminals had previously invested $12 million for its manufacturing plant here, but company president Kiyotaka Adachi said the new facility will make the firm more competitive, allowing it to target more markets worldwide.

The groundbreaking ceremony was witnessed by Kazuya Hori, vice president of Hitachi Omron Terminal Solution, HTMP’s mother company; Takashi Jinguji, managing director of Asia Hitachi Transport, other Japanese business executives based at the technology park, and senior deputy administrator Ramon Agregado of the Subic Bay Metropolitan Authority (SBMA).

Hitachi’s warehouse project came at the heels of a record-breaking export production last year, when the firm sent out a total export value of $54.21 million.

The record accomplishment, which Adachi said came after “a lot of effort and hard work,” made Hitachi Terminals the third-biggest exporter in the Subic Bay Freeport in 2007.

Adachi said the construction of a new warehousing facility “is part of our business strategy to control cost and to improve our efficiency.”

“Hitachi Terminals is competing hard to gain lead commission in quality cost worldwide. This project is a sign that our company is willing to compete strongly in the world market,” he added.

The company opted not to provide details on the project, although officials said the building will have a total floor area of 3,564 square meters.

The new facility will receive components for stocking, inventory control and handling of materials for production. It will also be used for “picking” or the withdrawal of parts to be delivered either for production or for shipping.

Agregado noted that aside from being the third-biggest exporter last year, HTMP was also Number 8 among Subic’s biggest importers, with a total import value of more than $24 million and also the eighth-biggest employer with a total of 703 workers.

Agregado also noted that Hitachi was one of the two Subic firms to pioneer in “Ecoprofit” practices here, which involved the adoption of innovative, integrated and environment-friendly technologies.

Hitachi officials said that by applying Ecoprofit principles, the company was able to save millions of pesos in power and water consumption. Among the Ecoprofit practices the company adopted were the use of auto shutoff water faucets and low-wattage fluorescent bulbs, mandatory turning off of lights and airconditioning systems during break time, and the promotion of a paperless, pencil-less office through the use of intranet computer networks.

http://www.businessmirror.com.ph/10092008/companies03.html

TambayBlues
October 15th, 2008, 02:31 AM
Why didn't the Philippines Industrialize early on? Every product whether it be cars, ships, airplanes, cell phones need a reliable source of materials. So the most basic of industries is to produce the materials necessary for producing goods for the downstream industries that will eventually follow and that will compete in the world market. But the fact is, the very foundation of any industrialization program is a cheap source of power. Because all the basic industries like Aluminum Smelters, Steel Mills, Petrochemical plants, Wafer Fabs are power hungry industries. Every factory needs a reliable source of materials. And to import these materials will put us at a disadvantage in our cost structure. The link below will give you an idea on what happened when Marcos tried to take the early steps to industrialize our country.

Schultz and Economic Hitmen Destroyed the Philippines
http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2004/site_packages/econ_hitmen/3150philipp_coup.html

Marcos' plans included an aluminum smelter. Everybody knows that Cars and motorcycle have a lot of aluminum parts. Is it any wonder then that Malaysia can cost effectively produce engines? Why, because they have an Aluminum Smelter and plans to build another one. So for me its on my wish list of things that the Philippines should establish to get a better than even chance of generating jobs and becoming a nation that produces its own locally developed brands and products and not as a nation of subcontractors for the multinationals. For those who are curious, here's the download link on how aluminum is produced.

How_Aluminum_is_Produced_-_The_Hall-Heroult_Process.pdf
http://rapidshare.com/files/154084104/How_Aluminum_is_Produced_-_The_Hall-Heroult_Process.pdf

crappypants
October 15th, 2008, 02:42 AM
even soaps, toothpaste, diswashing liquids, plates ,rice cookers, electric fans etc..are being imported from korea or China ,Japan. THese are items every household must own or purchase, can you imagine if we source all these from the PHils how much that would impact the economy. that's why Korea and China are richer because we are their consumers.

jpdm
October 15th, 2008, 12:05 PM
Why didn't the Philippines Industrialize early on? Every product whether it be cars, ships, airplanes, cell phones need a reliable source of materials. So the most basic of industries is to produce the materials necessary for producing goods for the downstream industries that will eventually follow and that will compete in the world market. But the fact is, the very foundation of any industrialization program is a cheap source of power. Because all the basic industries like Aluminum Smelters, Steel Mills, Petrochemical plants, Wafer Fabs are power hungry industries. Every factory needs a reliable source of materials. And to import these materials will put us at a disadvantage in our cost structure. The link below will give you an idea on what happened when Marcos tried to take the early steps to industrialize our country.

Schultz and Economic Hitmen Destroyed the Philippines
http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2004/site_packages/econ_hitmen/3150philipp_coup.html

Marcos' plans included an aluminum smelter. Everybody knows that Cars and motorcycle have a lot of aluminum parts. Is it any wonder then that Malaysia can cost effectively produce engines? Why, because they have an Aluminum Smelter and plans to build another one. So for me its on my wish list of things that the Philippines should establish to get a better than even chance of generating jobs and becoming a nation that produces its own locally developed brands and products and not as a nation of subcontractors for the multinationals. For those who are curious, here's the download link on how aluminum is produced.

How_Aluminum_is_Produced_-_The_Hall-Heroult_Process.pdf
http://rapidshare.com/files/154084104/How_Aluminum_is_Produced_-_The_Hall-Heroult_Process.pdf

Definitely agree!

The name of the game is to produce locally.

To be called a truly newly industrialized country, we must have a strong highly developed and modernized industrial sector...

Its high time future administrations should emphasize the strengthening our manufacturing sector...

Look what happen to the US, their de-industrialization (most of their dirty manufacturing industries just went South)cost them dearly.

We need to continuously develop and integrate our industries starting with the steel, plastic and metals industry.:)

jpdm
October 15th, 2008, 12:13 PM
even soaps, toothpaste, diswashing liquids, plates ,rice cookers, electric fans etc..are being imported from korea or China ,Japan. THese are items every household must own or purchase, can you imagine if we source all these from the PHils how much that would impact the economy. that's why Korea and China are richer because we are their consumers.

Definitely agree!

Thats why we Pinoys should patronize the products our local entrepreneurs produce specially those which are made of local raw materials and not just assembled here.

The China products scare must be an eye opener for all Pinoys.

The deluge of imported products especially smuggled products in Divisoria and Baclaran, plus those damn smuggled imported agricultural products and imported cars are slowly destroying domestic industries putting thousands of Pinoys out of work.

We need to strengthen the Buy Pinoy movement and protect are remaining local manufacturers from unfair competition brought by these unscrupulous businessmen.

When we buy our own produce, we know fully well that our economy as a whole will benefit from our loxcal purchases.

Tigilan na yung puro imported ang nasa isip.

Puro competitor nations lang natin (tulad ng Tsina, Japan, Korea) ang nakikinabang!

Buy Hapee toothpaste, Condura refs and aircons, Splash-HBC products, RFM products, San MIguel products, Hanabishi etc..!

Weina
October 15th, 2008, 12:16 PM
even soaps, toothpaste, diswashing liquids, plates ,rice cookers, electric fans etc..are being imported from korea or China ,Japan. THese are items every household must own or purchase, can you imagine if we source all these from the PHils how much that would impact the economy. that's why Korea and China are richer because we are their consumers.

i was surprised to know that even close up toothpastes are made in India:ohno: and many here of our imported products are either made in thailand, malaysia, indonesia, china, india, etc...

jpdm
October 18th, 2008, 05:01 AM
i was surprised to know that even close up toothpastes are made in India:ohno: and many here of our imported products are either made in thailand, malaysia, indonesia, china, india, etc...

Learn from Taiwan...

A balance agro-industrial development...

With lots of economic nationalism on it.......:)

bartstrife99
October 18th, 2008, 05:13 PM
It is true that is why i buy Hapee Toothpaste than Close-Up because it was imported from our neighbor, we should patronize our locally produced product. How can we become a Truly Industrial nation?

jpdm
October 18th, 2008, 06:23 PM
It is true that is why i buy Hapee Toothpaste than Close-Up because it was imported from our neighbor, we should patronize our locally produced product. How can we become a Truly Industrial nation?

Agree!

No matter what others will say, we have to love our own and practice economic nationalism by heart in order for us to become a truly developed nation.

Japan, Korea, Taiwan are in fact ultra nationalists, that's why they are rich and powerful...

.... and the rest of other industrialized countries which are in fact have overblown nationalism (thats why they conquered other countries militarily, politically, culturally and economically)


Its time for pinoys to be nationalists but not to the point of being reclusive...we can still remain open to foreign investments and influences


.... but should use such for our own advantage just like what the Japanese have done during the Meiji restoration...

normanenoza
October 20th, 2008, 02:37 PM
urge the rich to share their wealth through diverse investments. let there be wealth distribution. urge the rich to invest more. they have the resources. the government shall have more strict taxation. when you create more jobs, these working people will now have the money to spend and thus will also be the consumer of their own products.

jpdm
October 20th, 2008, 06:20 PM
urge the rich to share their wealth through diverse investments. let there be wealth distribution. urge the rich to invest more. they have the resources. the government shall have more strict taxation. when you create more jobs, these working people with now have the money to spend will also be the consumer of their own products.

Some rich Pinoys indeed invest their money in business...but their business usually cater to their own kind and tastes....


e.g. spas, retail stores that sell imported luxury goods, distribution and sale of finished (imported and luxurious) products, selling of imported brands

...all of these without a dint of local value added..

..in the end...more money coming out of our country..

...more unemployment and unsustainable in the long run...

...look whats happening to our battered manufacturing sector...near death because of wanton importation and smuggling of cheap (read Chinese, even thailand and India) imported goods....

odyssey
October 20th, 2008, 08:57 PM
^Because the children of rich Pinoys are so spoiled that drive them to be lazy. What an Inutil bunch.

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http://www.philstar.com/newphilstar/www/image/20081021/front.jpg
A commercially made bomb disposal robot, known as the Mechanical Anti-terrorist Concept, picks up a dummy explosive device during a demonstration in Makati last Oct. 14. ERNIE PENAREDONDO

normanenoza
October 21st, 2008, 04:17 AM
Some rich Pinoys indeed invest their money in business...but their business usually cater to their own kind and tastes....


e.g. spas, retail stores that sell imported luxury goods, distribution and sale of finished products, selling of imported brands

...all of these without a dint of local value added..

..in the end...more money coming out of our country..

...more unemployment and unsustainable in the long run...

...looks what happening to our battered manufacturing sector...near death because of wanton importation and smuggling of cheap (read Chinese, even thailand and India) imported goods....

the ones you've mentioned are not the really rich Filipinos but are the feeling rich people only.

diz
October 21st, 2008, 04:24 AM
^^ :lol: Feeling mayaman lang. :lol:

jpdm
October 21st, 2008, 05:34 AM
the ones you've mentioned are not the really rich Filipinos but are the feeling rich people only.

Unfortunately marami sila....:ohno:

kevinb
October 21st, 2008, 03:18 PM
^^ Which would actually help the economy if they spend. ;)

jpdm
October 21st, 2008, 03:39 PM
^^ Which would actually help the economy if they spend. ;)


yes and no.

higen
October 24th, 2008, 02:00 PM
We will never become a developed country if we stick to the attitude of always depending on the government for change, always asking help to the government, and definitely always blaming the government. In fact we are the government and thus, we must blame ourselves.

Agreed! :okay:
There is always something you can do to improve your life...it's not always entirely the government's fault.

I don't think an NIC status is worth anything if 30-40% of the population is still poor. A good example is India. India is an industrial giant with a GDP almost 1/3 or 1/2, depending of the source, with that of Japan but the poor still number in the hundreds of millions. I would like to think that the Philippine is an NIC but 40% of it's people being poor, the title doesnt carry any weight, I think.

Here's a thought...Thailand has about 40% of its population working in agriculture yet there are less poor people there. Vietnam has less poor people than the Philippines yet Vietnam is far behind the Philippines in Industry...Maybe we should be thinking of ways to curb poverty other done Industrializing...Just thinking...

jpdm
October 24th, 2008, 03:40 PM
Agreed! :okay:
There is always something you can do to improve your life...it's not always entirely the government's fault.

I don't think an NIC status is worth anything if 30-40% of the population is still poor. A good example is India. India is an industrial giant with a GDP almost 1/3 or 1/2, depending of the source, with that of Japan but the poor still number in the hundreds of millions. I would like to think that the Philippine is an NIC but 40% of it's people being poor, the title doesnt carry any weight, I think.

Here's a thought...Thailand has about 40% of its population working in agriculture yet there are less poor people there. Vietnam has less poor people than the Philippines yet Vietnam is far behind the Philippines in Industry...Maybe we should be thinking of ways to curb poverty other done Industrializing...Just thinking...

Agriculture in our country is almost dead.

Our industrial sector is into assembly only

our whole economy is import dependent

so alot of pinoys do not benefit really...

unless...

we jumpstart our industrialization effort....


integration of of industrial manufactururing....

with more local content...

more local value added (not only labor, but R&D, local raw materials, local capital)

strengthen our agricultural sector..

..reduce to barest minimum agricultural imports...

...rice, corn, dairy, cotton, livestock self-sufficiency

crappypants
October 24th, 2008, 08:30 PM
Agreed! :okay:
There is always something you can do to improve your life...it's not always entirely the government's fault.

I don't think an NIC status is worth anything if 30-40% of the population is still poor. A good example is India. India is an industrial giant with a GDP almost 1/3 or 1/2, depending of the source, with that of Japan but the poor still number in the hundreds of millions. I would like to think that the Philippine is an NIC but 40% of it's people being poor, the title doesnt carry any weight, I think.

Here's a thought...Thailand has about 40% of its population working in agriculture yet there are less poor people there. Vietnam has less poor people than the Philippines yet Vietnam is far behind the Philippines in Industry...Maybe we should be thinking of ways to curb poverty other done Industrializing...Just thinking...

because food and other commodities are cheaper in THailand and Vietnam.
vietnam is a socialist country so there is a more even distribution of weath.
though the salaries are about the same , their money will stretch farther .
We get killed on our electricity rate. Just paying for electricity alone will consume your entire budget in the Phils. Thai and Vietnam are also food exporters now , it doesn't help that we're multiplying like rabbits pushing up demand for everything doesn't help abate price increases